Get Played - PlayStation's 30th Anniversary

Episode Date: September 22, 2025

Heather, Nick and Matt look back 30 years to the launch of the original Sony Playstation. They talk about their favorite games for the system, their early Playstation memories, and more! Plus talk of Hollow Knight: Silksong, Deep Rock Galactic: Survivors, Pokemon TCG Pocket and more! Check out our brand new merch at kinshipgoods.com/getplayed Follow us on social media @getplayedpod Music by Ben Prunty benpruntymusic.com Art by Duck Brigade duckbrigade.com For ad-free main feed episodes, our complete back catalogue including How Did This Get Played? and our Premium DLC episodes and our exclusive show Get Anime'd where we're currently watching Elfen Lied go to patreon.com/getplayed Join us on our Discord server here: https://discord.gg/getplayed Wanna leave us a voicemail? Call 616-2-PLAYED (616-275-2933) or write us an email at [e-mail] Advertise on Get Played via Gumball.fm All of our links can be found at linktree.com/getplayedpodSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a headgum podcast. All right, Sony, we are at a pivotal part of our history. We are about to launch our first ever video game system. And I brought you all into this meeting because, well, it needs a name. And so I want you to think about the names out there of existing systems, the Nintendo entertainment system, the Super Nintendo Entertainment System, the MegaDriver, the Genesis, like, I'm looking for names that have some heft, some import, let's start throwing around the room.

Just to get this one out there, I'm thinking about Nintendo Entertainment System, Super Nintendo Entertainment System, Sony Entertainment System. You know, we are the newly created Sony Computer Entertainment America, as opposed to the SEG, the SCJ, rather, the DJ, rather, the DJ, Japanese division. So I think that actually fits pretty well. The Sony entertainment system. I'm sorry, I'm going to say no.

That's fair. I'm just going to say no. I knew it wasn't going to be the one. I'm not putting it on the board. I'm not even making the board. I want more names. I want more names. Throw me some names.

All right, I got one. You know, this thing is going to have some games. Right. Why be coy about it. Yep. The Sony game thing. That's pretty good. We have the Walk Man.

Yeah, we got the game thing Now we have the game thing Because it's more of a thing Than a walking or a man I do want to point out I do want to point out That the game boy already exists So you can't really call it a game thing

So that's another no from me Well how about we just take the Walkman branding And we do one better than the game boy We got the game man Are you a game boy? You're a game man Yeah Step up to the plate

Or show your fucking hog Yeah is that fucker cut or what Uh Okay Well, I will say this is the first one I'm putting on the board, but I'm worried that, you know, we've got internal division separation here at Sony, so I don't know if Walkman is going to allow us to potentially risk the tarnishing of their brand. I got it.

Yeah. Because the Walkman is portable. Yeah. The idea is that you're going to be walking with it. Oh, right. That makes sense. But last time I checked, you play video game sitting down. Okay, yeah.

The Sony sit man. I like it Again I like where we're going But these are separate Enterprise divisions And I don't know if Sony audio is going to let us

Again because we don't know if the system's going to be huge So they may not want us to risk The brand of Walkman, Discman, etc I mean we also could go in an edgier More adult direction Okay okay I like what I'm hearing Give me some more The Sony book.

Now that's going to get some headlines. That's pretty good. Okay. You have to agree that it's pretty good. It is good, but I don't think we're going to get shelf space at Toys R Us, baby toys, babbages. These are major retailers and Sears that we need to, like, get the system into. It makes sense. I can't imagine, I can't imagine kids being like, mom, mom, I really.

really want the fuck well my only thought about it because i think it's good yeah doesn't really say what it is it's a little it's a little confusing yeah that's true it doesn't really sound like a video game console okay so i think it should be the sony game fuck pretty good are you man enough to fuck this game what that dick do i what what that dick do put your uncut dick in this game Okay, so our options right now are the Sony fuck, Sony game fuck. Yeah, I noticed you haven't written any of these down on the board, by the way. I, like, I have a different angle. Okay.

And I think we could just, like, also say play against it. We're not going to be edgy at all. Wait, what word was that? We'll play against it. Oh, okay. Like, play against the expectations. Play, okay. Yeah, and play.

And, you know, like, we, you know, we, you know, The current station we're at, we're trying to figure out with a name of this thing, you know. The station we're at. Yeah. And so I just think in a play and station, I think we can call this the Sony pray station. And it's a Christian demographic. I've been wanting this so bad. Because, like, this is, like, I'll say, a ungodly work environment.

And I, like, can't. There's, like, it's just not fair. I'm just, too. I'm like, I'm, I'm an evangelical Christian. I have been, like, trying to cover that up by going hard in the opposite direction. You pitched the game fun. I know. I'm covering up for my deeply held religious beliefs.

I'm shamed by saying that. I'm meeting with my pastor after work every day. I'm giving myself 40 lashes after this. Okay. Well, I, I, I, I. I'll run these up to corporate. Give myself some lashes with my fucking hog. But I do think, I do think that maybe...

That some bitch over my shoulder. The PlayStation. The PlayStation might be it. I'm sorry, God. I'm sorry for saying that. Gentlemen, what is happening? We endure long load times and square triangle cross circle as we discuss the 30. anniversary of the PlayStation 1 this week on Get Played. Queen. It's time to get played. I'm your host, Heather Ann Campbell, along with my fellow host, Tiger Weiger.

That's me, Tiger Weiger along with our third host, Mr. Games, Matt Apodaca. Hello, everyone. Hello, everyone, and welcome back to the premiere video game podcast where this week we're celebrating somebody's birthday. Oh, it's somebody's birthday. Who's birthday? Who's the birthday boy? Look at this big bouncing baby boy. Look at this 30-year-old man. Oh, look at this 30-year-old, this cute little 30-year-old.

Look what Daddy did. Oh, this 30-year-old's got a full dippy. Matt, what happened? You know, sometimes you kind of just do one for you? Yeah, yeah, sure. Yeah, and probably, you know, 20, 30 times an episode. Yeah, yeah, sometimes I'll just got to say one for ourselves. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But yeah, I mean, I like hinting at it, but I love saving the topic. Yeah, we'll get to it. For a little bit later in the pod. Yeah, eagle-eyed listeners will know if they read the, I wonder how many people read the thing. Nobody. Nobody reads the thing, right? Nobody listens, nobody reads. I was going to call you out for saying eagle-eyed listeners, but I realized you were actually, what you're saying, was that the listeners who actually read the podcast description, which I think a lot of people don't even realize exists.

Yeah, yeah. So, you know, maybe don't be so ready to take me down. Sometimes I'm saying something good. Shout out to the podcast producers of the world, a tirelessly cranking out podcast descriptions, which I have to be in there for some reason. Man, you had me at tirelessly cranking. Speaking of podcast producers of the world,

our normal producer, Rochelle Chen Ranch is out this week. But in her stead, we have Doe Boys producer Emma Erdbrink. Hi, E.E. Hi, thanks for having me. Thanks so much for coming back. Always great to have you. studio on to get played uh emma i would describe you as a focused gamer i feel like you find a few games and you play the shit out of them i have my little tears of the kingdom and breath of the wild and star do valley have been my obsessions over the past few years star new valley is the one you've most recently gotten in to correct i was just telling matt this that i started playing it like 200 hours into it oh wow i think i play it sometimes when i'm exporting things and then like the export finishes and i just put my switch down on my desk and it stays open so i think i'm clocking hours i'm not actually playing

I think I'm not to myself. Oh, well, we'll talk about the soft box. I mean, I would never on the clock. It's for other shows. Yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. No, no. He freaking bought it.

I'm stupid. That's a funny guy. What do you want for me? I'm a dip shit. I'll know anything. Do. Nosey thing. What's the bus?

Who are you? Now they're just like that dumb They don't like know somebody that they like Work with it Whoa What's this I'm coming out of my lungs They know what lungs are though

Well you're limited Little chunks of knowledge You know we all have our pockets That we're experts in Who are you I Starter Valley obviously a big part of it Is the you know The farming element

The crafting element The light combat but and dungeon exploration but there's also the social element yeah what is your what is your current status in the game in terms of like romance in terms of family i just married sam wow congratulations thanks and i have a room with a crib in my house but i don't know what how that happens so i haven't gotten that far yet but uh it's it's cute i like the social aspect of it in the game because you can't spend too much time on it like you can talk to each person like twice a day and give them a gift and that's it and then it just like they don't respond to you so like there's

not that much pressure for that part of it. You can be like, oh, I said hi, okay, goodbye, and I leave. It's cute. The thing that always, like, fucks me up in that game is if I forget someone's birthday. Yeah. Jesus Christ. I, like, didn't realize I was supposed to be keeping track of that stuff at first, and

so I was just ignoring everyone's birthday. And then I was like, oh, there's, like, a calendar and I can keep track of these things. How are you with that generally, like, in real life, actually? I would say I'm, like, I'm pretty bad at it about tracking people's birthday. I enter it into my phone and then that is it forever. Like it's just I said a reminder every year Because you'll find out once And then you become the good friend

When every year you're like hey man Happy birthday That's right It's not people hate it It's a It used to be a thing you'd have to remember Right and now it's become a thing That you just like

You're just note somewhere Yeah like I feel like in the Facebook era It would just come up And you're just like you don't have to exert any effort I feel like I've talked about this in the past but my like the Apple calendar somehow linked to my Facebook contact. Same problem, same problem.

And people, yeah, that I haven't thought about in like 10, 15 years. I'm just constantly being reminded that it's somebody's birthday today. I'm like, I haven't talked to this person and I've never wished this person a happy birthday. I have at least four birthday pop-ups every day. Wow.

For whoever. And the same thing. I don't know what to do. Like I've tried turning off birthdays, but then it turns off all my birthdays. Yeah. And that's not what I want. No.

So I did think about going through Facebook and just deleting everybody. I deleted my, I don't have an account. Oh, so that doesn't work? It's just, it's just in there. Oh, man. Oh, wait, no, I think I do have a meta account because I had to make one for my meta-fucking meta-quest.

I think at some point I was able to separate them. Like, you were able to, like, they were able to do that where it was like, you don't have to have a Facebook account to have the thing, but I guess I ultimately have an account because I have Instagram and stuff still. Yeah. But, Todd. Man.

Man, everything's good. But everything is real good. I agree. I'm frustrated that meta is the one that's beating everybody to AR glasses. Me too. I don't know if you saw the announcement this week, but the next version, and I'm a happy, happy owner of the fucking Meta Ray bands. I love having the off-ear headphones. I love having my-

That's the most appealing part of it to me. It's great. And I like having the ability to just touch my lenses and take a photo without having to dig out my phone. All that stuff is great. for just like... That technology in the wrong hands can be a big problem. Wait, hold on a second.

What? I'm not a pervert. I'm not a predator. Nick's camera roll is just infinity photos of his hand. I would want it so I could see behind me. Does that make sense? Yeah.

Yeah, I get that. But the new glasses this week have invisible screens in them. We're already there. They have AR screens in them. And you wear a wristband that handles all your gestures. So they don't have the tech that is like the Applevision pinching tech. But they do have it if you wear the wristband. So you can have all your text messages, fucking like maps, all of it in your eyes already.

Wow. I've seen... Already, let's go. Got anything about the wristband and gestures, smart guy? Well, I didn't say one, so you know I don't. Oh, man, this guy keeps texting me. Over and over and over again for... Pictures of his hand.

26 seconds. It's a marathon. That is a little too much. Yeah, too much stuff. The grasses I can sort of get behind. I also don't like that the new ones are much thicker frames. I don't know that I need. The other thing is I don't like meta's suite of software.

I don't want meta's text messages. I don't want messenger in my fucking eyeballs. No. I want Apple shit in my eyeballs. Yeah. I wonder if they'll ditch the like visor. Apple? Yeah, technology.

Oh, for sure. And then the next version of it would have. be like a nice pair of glasses. God, when fucking apple glasses come out, I'm done, I'm cooked, I'm fucked, I'm ruined. Yeah. The one thing that's inevitable in whatever your AR, you know, the apparatus of choice is in your field of vision, ads. That's coming.

It's coming soon, inescapable. We're looking at ads at all time. I can't wait. I hate that so much. I hope it's moving T-shirts on everybody. Marlboro. The only, the only thing. about them that I enjoy

is like when I turn on my and I don't enjoy them full stop I actually don't enjoy it at all but when I turn my TV on of course it's the stock interface of the television so it's you know

whatever the fuck mine's Google and it'll show me these movies that just exist but also don't like that's not fucking real there was one that I saw that was called

President Evil and it's exactly what you think it is yeah sure And Joe Biden slasher movie What a fucking sale that was President Evil is the fastest I've ever heard A concept and the cash registers

Stound in my own brain There was one that's like a glam metal shark Let's go Yeah I was just like these are not true These are just not true but they exist And I could watch it right now if I want Absolutely And then they also

We live in this hell now too where it tells you like the tomato score before you watch something so you're already pre-judging something before you watch it and they're all like it's just showing me rotten movies

and I'm just like this is what good could this be doing? This is horrible. There was also an announcement speaking of ads that there's this really fancy $1,800 Samsung refrigerator with a screen built in

and as of today they did announce that you'll start seeing ads on your refrigerator. I love it. I fucking love it too, Nick. There's a accelerationism. Let's just get on board. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I got, like, that's, I've noticed that about Apple Maps now. There's now ads in that. I was like, Jesus Christ, yeah, it's inescapable. Great, let's go. Why not? Just put a tube over each of my eyes. And down, just down my throat. And another tube in my throat.

Make the eyes showing me ads all the time. Put me in that fucking goo from the Matrix and just call it a day. Don't forget about the tube up my ass. So you want the optional two? Get up there. You don't want you. So you don't want the other one.

Just put me in a coup with one tube up my ass. I'll deal with it. This guy is raw-dogging the Matrix without a feed. He only has the sensation of shitting. Producing so much electricity. I'm glad we all seem to be on the same wavelength today. It's just great. Desperate?

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That's S-A-I-L-Y.com slash Get Played. I eventually got off that roof when the sun rose. You were talking about stuff that just comes up by default when you put on your TV, which, again, is this sort of thing of like, yeah, I understand the era of linear television. You're getting free programming in exchange for watching, like commercials. And then at a certain point it became, you're paying for cable television, but that still has ads. So now you're paying for something like you buy a television and you're just seeing ads just for owning a television. Like it's just part of the device. But anyway, I was hanging out with, this was a while back, I was hanging out with a past guest friends of the show, Libby Watts.

and Brendan James, and they showed me this Roku original show called UFO Cowboys. No. We watched several episodes of UFO Cowboys, which is great because it is like a group of, it's a reality series with a group of, you know, just like like like cowboys that all have their own discipline. One guy's a tracker, you know, one guy's like a, you know, like a scout. One guy is the gadgets guy, which is clearly. I think they're just like, look, we're going to be a drone.

You'll be the gadgets guy or whatever. But it's just them going around and like, they'll be flashing light in the sky. I'd be like, I just saw the gates of hell. It's the fakes. Like, there's lowest stakes thing that they just edit, like it's, you know. It's somebody's grandpa's favorite show. Yeah, 100%. Very watchable.

Hey, you got, you seen that show on Raku? I'm going to move to that city. Oh, no. It thinks it's real. They had a bit where a guy walked into like he was like walking into a field where there'd been a UFO landing. And then clearly they just did a stunt where they'd put a cable on him and pulled him from behind. You fell down. Like something got him.

Yeah. And then they just like, they never gave closure on what it was. And it's just like, so you're just faking stuff now. There's no pretense that this is like, oh, there's some actual mystery. It's just like, we're just making stuff up and acting like it's real. Whatever. Just thinking about my grandfather real quick,

I got a funny voicemail from him the other day. Oh yeah? He called me. He always calls me. He goes, Matthew. Matthew. This is your grandpa.

John Wick, Chapter 4. End of message. All you need. Pretty good. I got it. I was like, yeah,

he must have just watched it and thought it was good. Gravity is the soul of wit. Yeah. Wow. Wow. Great, man. Should we talk about some video games?

Okay. I think you should. The question for the room is, what are you playing? What are you playing? Oh. That's it? Resident Evil merchant, you don't okay?

Yeah, I'm fine. I'm trying to keep a low profile. Oh, what happened? I don't want to go into it. Okay. Well, you don't have to. You don't have to share anything. You're not going to share.

Yeah, if I think if I'm picking up what you're putting down. I didn't say nothing Stay clear I'm no more words That's it That's it Sure Why do you play it

Turn off your phones Turn off your phones Maybe start learning how to read a map Yeah yeah yeah Yeah just I think next week I gotta ask you guys to go analog before I walk in

I'll talk about my analog pocket. No, no, no, no. That's not what I mean. I mean, like, it's weird when you think about it. It's not analog, isn't it? It is not analog, it is? It is not analog at all. I'm not sure how you do an analog podcast.

I guess if you recorded real to real, you know, I mean, like you could maybe, that that'd be the closest you could get. I think if you give podcast producers one week to figure it out, they'll figure it out. Yeah, yeah, we got. I got some tape somewhere. But yeah, yeah, yeah, just in and out real quick. What are you playing? That sounds like Nick Others show.

Yeah. I had nothing real quick about my eating out meal. Taking my time. Join the feast. Have we talked to you about this? I think fries are done there, and I'm thinking I'm a two burgers guy. I mean, that's a valid, you know, approach. Have you tried the cheese fries?

Yeah, the cheese. I do like the cheese fries. I don't think I've done that. I like the cheese fries. Yeah, cheese fries are good. They just put a slice of American cheese on that sandwich, and it's not bad at all. It melts pretty good. But you can also get the animal fries, which are they put that cheese on there.

They put the, they put a little bit of the spread, and then they put some griddled onions. That's a lot of fun. The spot that I'm coming from, too, I don't even dislike the fries. I just like the burger a lot. I like the fries. I understand why the fries are polarizing. I was right. You can definitely plus them up with some add-ons.

But yeah, yeah, you can do whatever you want. You're your calories. Choose how to budget them. Bread only. Oh, interesting. That's the thing that, like, I'm like, is the bread, is the extra bowl? bread worse than fries?

I don't have to probably got on par. I wonder if they, because you know, they kind of let you do whatever you want it in and out. I wonder if they would let me do double bread.

They might. Two buns top, two buns bottom. They might just to get you out of there. I bet they'd give you, I bet they, if they did minimum give you an extra bun for like a nominal charge,

but I'm not sure if they'd construct it with two buns. They might. Could you do, could you ask, them bun burger bun burger bun burger bun do they do it they could they might i bet you they might i don't know i don't know if i need to ask for an odd number of buns i feel like you might have to go in store to ask for that for sure because you've tried to explain oh by the way that i went i went to

burger king emma saw this for the uh i went to fucking burger king yesterday got an impossible wopper meal and uh they they have a fucking ai uh or at the drive-thru window the you're not talking to a real person now you're talking to an a i The king has fallen. Yeah. I got food delivery last night, and it came in one of those little robots for the first time. I had to, like, go outside and meet a little robot on the sidewalk. A clanker?

Yeah, a clanker. That's wild. And a Waymo drove by. It was raining when I got it. It was real dystopian. Oh, yeah. All this rules. I wish it was a fucking nightmare.

That's what the AI said to Wager at the end of his order. It said, you rule. He did. It did say that to me, yeah. I wish it was all just a little bit cooler. If it was going to be shitty, at least if it was cool, it wouldn't, it wouldn't be so bad. Yeah, I wish it had like a, like a, the voice that was like the Tom Cruise movie Oblivion. Yeah. Like the way the drones sound in that, I wish that was how Burger King AI started.

Like, brer! And it just like, oh God. And it was like, give me your order. What we're, that's what we're dealing with is ugly cyberpunk. It's like we're like we're kind of getting that. And we're certainly getting the, the dystopian elements of it. We're certainly getting the, you know, the, the, the income. striation, but like the fucking it's like shitty little robots and things, but everything

looks like shit and it sucks. What are you going to do? I don't mind Waymos actually. I enjoy right now. I have not been in one, but my wife FaceTime me from one. Yeah. Not long ago and it was a very, very funny experience. She goes, there's nobody driving. My wife will not

allow me to get in a Waymo. Wow. She does not trust them. She does not trust the tech companies or the conglom She's like, I absolutely do not think that we should allow these people to commodify safety. Yeah. So you are not getting in one. And I went, this sucks. You ran to your room.

I was fucking blows. I want to drive in a robot car. I was taken only for only Waymo's for rides for our, you know, for our listeners. Jemmy, the dog, Emma's dog, a staple of the doughboys podcast has just made her cute little way on. to the couch next to Heather is snuggling up, adorable. Anyway, I was exclusively using Waymo's for rideshare, and then there was a gap in where parts of the city they covered where I had to take an Uber.

I was like, I don't know, I'll take an Uber, it's fine. And I get in there, the guy immediately starts talking about Trump. I was like, all right. And then just based on that, I know it wasn't in the way you'd want it to. The question is, what are you playing? Matt, what are you playing? Look, I'm playing Silk Song still, okay? Hollow Night Silk Song.

And I don't think a single game this year has made me feel this way. Wow. Where I'm just like, it's just pure, pure game. It's, Heather, you would fucking love this video game. It is so fucking good and it's hard and it feels like, I wasn't there for this but I think this is the closest thing I can compare it to

and you were there for this so I think you'll understand it feels like the jump from demon souls to dark souls but really from Hollow Night to Silk Song yeah

it's so much there's so much well the difficulty is it's there it's true but like the it's just it iterated it's seven years of iteration

so like it's like a you know they didn't just like shit this thing out. This thing is like it's one of the most polished feeling video games I've ever played and the real sense of exploration and stuff is like it's so fun and so great

but like there's an act structure there's a quest system now that wasn't present in the previous game there's like I mean the bosses are so engaging and so fun but like so so so souls like

where like you really really have to like memorize these patterns and go in prepared you get tools now so like tools are additional weapons that you can like toss or like throw down

that cause like damage and stuff I'm also the environments feel a little bit more like that too or like in the first one it's still bugs and stuff but this one it feels like

the world feels a little bit bigger in a way and there's like the bosses are just so cool I spent the good part of the weekend fighting the boss that I mentioned last week, The Widow and was just getting my ass kicked but not having a bad time

just like being like this is like the just the best this is so great and so cool and getting closer and closer and when you fail a boss run like that early in the run you sort of know that you just like fucked up but when you can spend a few minutes doing it and then you die, that's when you feel like, I'm going to do this.

Yeah, for sure. And so when I did it, I, like, screamed. I was so excited. I was so happy. And now I'm at this boss. The runbacks are, like, the most punishing aspect of it, actually. Because some of them are not just, like, far. They're all so treacherous along the way.

So, like, sometimes if you have a great, a successful runback is then you not getting hit at all or not taking any damage and then being able to start this. boss fight but like there's sometimes where like just fucked up so much along the way that I have one health left and I'm about to start this boss fight and just like no it's not going to happen but just try anyway and it's it rocks it is just it is so great the music is so good there's more music in this in general now silk song you're like get this thing that like can uh like play songs to unlock things um what kind of instrument is it you just you sort of gesturing is like kind of like a loot or something like that?

It's sort of like that where it's like, because she's, Hornet's like a spider, I think, or something. So there's a, there's like, she's, like, silky element. Yeah, so she's like in command of these like webs and things like that. So she has like this, it's like,

I mean, they call it like a needle, but it's like it's like a harped needle almost. That then she's like playing to then open these different things and stuff. And I'm at a boss fight right now that everybody in the Discord was like, Jesus fucking Christ, this boss. And I'm like, I think I might go,

wander around a little bit because I'm very close to getting an additional health mask which is going to be needed at this point because it's just some of their attacks are like unavoidable too

it feels like sometimes and it's just it's just a it's just an absolutely incredible incredible game I know it's on game pass so if you had some time to check it out Nick I think you should too It's just, it's nuts.

It's nuts how good it is. Wow. And like, I know that people waited. It feels like stolen valor to have like finished the game the day before the new one comes out and then get it. I'll finish the original all night. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, I know people have been waiting seven years for this one and for good reason because it's just, it's astounding. It's, it's, I'm loving it.

That's awesome. Yeah. I mean, my whole thing is like I've talked about, you know, bouncing off Holland night a couple of times. I should give it another go. I don't know if I would jump straight into Silkstong without playing Hollow Night all the way through because I do want to have that experience too. So we'll see. But I'm glad that it's like so it's interesting because the initial response I feel like from a lot of people

was just complaining about the difficulty spike. And now I feel like it's settled a little bit more to just admiring the craft throughout. Yeah. Because like the difficulty is it is true. Like in like I could see why they had to patch some of those early bosses that I'll just as a reminder, I did beat before the patch. Okay. But the, I think you do get set up a little bit more later on with, like, two.

Like, there's, like, tax you can lay down that, like, if you lay them down in the correct spot, the boss is just standing in them and just taking continual damage while they're, like, standing in it. And, like, that's cool. That's a great, a great, a great, like, just a cool idea. There's, like, and there's, like, other little boons you can have and stuff. It's incredible. I'm loving it.

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my office, and I kind of took everything offline for a little bit, and so I haven't been able to really play a ton of games. I've been I didn't, so I thought when I hit Masterball in Pokemon card game pocket that I would stop

playing. But there is a siren song of getting into the top 5,000 that is just constantly dinging its little bell at me. And so I'm still playing even though I have hit the highest rank that I've ever hit before.

So I'm inching my way up the leaderboard. I would love to be ranked before the end of the season. I don't know if it's going to happen. I've had good days. I've had bad days. The cutoff for hitting the leaderboard 2,000 points.

I'm currently at 1750. So it's possible. It's possible that I could become a ranked Pokemon player, like an internationally ranked player. So I've been doing that. And then I've also been playing more of the very, very, very poorly optimized persona Royale on my Switch 2. It's ugly, man.

That's a bummer. It's a real ugly game on Switch 2 because it's like not the resolution. There's something about the way that it has been upscaled for the Switch 2 screen that makes it look soupy as fuck. But the rest of the graphics, like the overlays, all the UI elements, crystal clear, like look like stickers that you could peel off the screen. And the game proper looks like I'm looking through Vaseline rubbed on my glasses. It's, it is ugly, but I'm, I don't know, it's been on my mind a lot lately. TikTok's been feeding me footage of that neighborhood in, uh, in Japan. So I, I keep being like, I should go back.

And for the first time, I had Korean coffee because I had it, uh, I had an early lunch. And I was like, oh, for the first time ever, I can have Korean coffee. I got to try it. And you know what? It was so fucking hot. It was perfect. It was straight heat. A real, I mean, like, here's the thing.

When I was, when I was playing the shit out of that game, I also got into curry and coffee. But for me, it was like a bang, bang. Like, I'd have, like, the curry, and then I'd go and get a coffee afterwards. And I kind of liked me. I loved it. I had a plate on the table, coffee cup on the table, having curry, sipping a coffee. So fucking good. You know, I get my curry a little spicy.

You know, I'm something of a heat seeker. and I would, I want like a cooler beverage, you know what I mean? Like, like, so, but I guess you could have a glass of water with your coffee. Yeah, you can have a glass of water. There's something about the way the bitterness of the coffee brings up the sweetness of the curry. Sure, I can see that. It changes the sort of flavor profile of the curry, which I wasn't expecting. I was kind of like, I don't know if this is going to work.

Right. But I've seen it work so much in media and specifically in Persona 5. that I was like, I'll give it a shot. And that really, it really fucking works. I just got to say, Jimmy's asleep and it's really cute. Yeah, Jimmy tends to do that. I think me talking is a cue for some zes. Well, she hears it here, and then at home in my office,

she hears more doughboys all day. So she's just snoozing to it all the time. The tiger wager lullaby. What are you playing? Heather, thank you so much for asking. You're welcome. Deep Rock Galactic Survivor hit 1.0 this week. as of this record.

It had its final retail release has happened after being in early access for some time. I played the shit out of this game in early access and really enjoyed it. It is, as you can maybe infer from the name, a vampire survivor's like auto shooter. I think the, don't quote me on this, I think the final release might also be on game paths.

I could be wrong about it. I think I heard that this week as well, yeah. But I'll say this. I think it's a really fun game. I do love the art direction. I think the effects are great. uh it's it's it's a it's a super like like the the ultra low phi aesthetic of the vampire survivors has its charm but it's nice to see a game that like looks this refined um and modern but also with like a really strong aesthetic uh you know that the the the established deep rock galactics of like aesthetic which is kind of like this um i don't know what the what the what the what the correct term is exactly uh wouldn't be steampunk because it's it's future but it's kind of like a warhammer sort of vibe to it a little bit.

Anyway, it, I, uh, the great, you know, the great color palette. I really like how the game looks. I really like like some of the gameplay elements that have been added on top of the existing like vampire survivors convention. There is one thing that I will say about this as it's been iterated upon in early access and, and finally hit the 1.0 build. The meta game does feel like a bit of a slog to unlock things. Um, I, I have a negative Steam store review.

of the 1.0 release. This is by user Bears. And I will just I'm just going to read this because I think this is kind of well said, although it's a little bit more cynical than my take. Yeah, let's talk to the meme reviews. The real reality is this game is a massive grind. It used to be good and have good meta-progression.

Now it's completed a 20-minute dive for plus 2% damage to one gun. They've made the difficulty spike and it's not only a barrel to run through a 20-minute dive just for the small rewards, but also you can just not roll very well and get fewer or weaker rewards each time because you find the loss because you cannot kill the last boss.

Yeah, I mean, I kind of get that sort of assessment. And there is the element of, you know what, this is a completely different type of game, but it's kind of like, we remember the initial release of cyberpunk 2077. And aside from the bugs, a big issue with that game was that the way the skill tree was balanced is like you would get, again, like you'd get a new thing unlocked,

a new skill point unlocked, and what you could give it to would be something that'd give you like an extra 1.5% damage to, you know, a katana. And it's just like, this doesn't feel like any sort of upgrade. And that's kind of kind of a little bit of an issue is that it doesn't necessarily feel like you're making tangible progress, unlocking things in an ideal way. That's say, I wouldn't go so far as to say this game is not worth playing. I really like it.

I think it's super fun. I also think that's obvious the kind of thing that could be tweaked. And if you like these kind of games, this one, again, maybe on GamePass, don't quote me on that. I don't want to see an image of my face with a quote of me saying deep rock galactic survivors on game pass, even if it's true, I just don't quote me on it because I'm not saying it's it's dogma. I'm not confident in that. I could look it up. I'm choosing not to. But I'm just saying like it might be on game pass.

If you have game pass, take a moment in check before you spend the money on Steam, which where right now it's on sale, it's like nine bucks. I think it's absolutely worth nine bucks. And especially be like vampire survivors But do quote the price Quote Nick on the price It might be a little bit more than nine bucks So don't quote me on that either Oh my God

Now we're just saying stuff I think it's 1299 and like 20 or 30% off So it's like not you know It's I don't know what the sense figure is Having played some of it in early access myself I think it's worth it at any price That's a good that's a good fun game Yeah it's really fun

Yeah I did just look it up for you Nick And your picture is next to it It's, it's, uh, deep rock galactic survivor launched on Xbox GamePass and PC GamePass September 17th, 2025. Wow. Nick Weiger. Yeah. They didn't have to add stink lines.

There's a look, there's a lot of quotes with my picture that I disavow. It's taken out of context. This one says, I eat diarrhea. That'd be like, you know what, if I'm being honest, if it were me, that'd be the first one I'd disavow. Politician having to. I mean, look, honestly, that'll probably be like the 2028 campaign. I did not eat diarrhea. That ad is a fake.

Yeah. And then the winner is like, I eat diarrhea and I love it. A bunch of chuds eating diarrhea. Feel owned. All right. Should we talk about the PlayStation 1? I think let's talk about the PlayStation 1, but also, before we start, I'd like to, maybe if we could all just take this moment to listen to one of the most beautiful sounds ever made,

Emma, if you'd please. So the beginning of that sound It's good on its own. Yeah. If it stopped there, you'd be like, that was pretty good. Then the second part of it kicks in

where it's kind of like chimes. You're like, well, now we're just showing off. This is good stuff. I love it. One of the great sounds. The PlayStation 1 Startup Sound was created by Takafumi Fujisawa, the sound designer for the PlayStation Project

who sampled real-world instruments MIDI sequencing and the console's own sound hardware to create that sound in less than a month. It was designed to evoke excitement and security progressing from an orchestral like tone to twinkling bells and a traditional Japanese flute

all while fitting within the console's limited memory. It rocks. It's really great. I know we did this before. Is it the best of the PlayStation startup sounds? I know the PlayStation 3, like, the original orchestra one is great. The original orchestra tuning on the PlayStation 3 is the biggest moment of hubris in the history of games. It is so hard for me not.

Like, I do think the PlayStation 1 is the best one ever. Yeah. And that's, and I'm a second kid. Yeah. So that's a hard admission for me to say. I'm a pretty big fan of the solo beep of the new generation. Oh, good. Beep.

Beep. Look at me started. Just beep? Yeah. Used to make things in this country. And now it's just beep this and beep that. I know. Oh, I love this.

There's an interview I have with Takafumi Fujisawa. And one of the concepts was to maintain the core image of this sound, no matter what type of TV speaker it's played on, as there are going to be countless types of TV around the world. The only limitation was the size of the ROM. But I love that idea. Like being like, okay, this has to. sound good if it's on a shitty speaker on a great speaker it's got to have a good a good rich full sound and also enough high end minimal sounds that it'll sound good coming through those like those Costco VHS players yeah always interesting to hear somebody who made something good talk

about wanting to make it good for a good reason yeah it's like which i wish i thought like that i love the playstation one startup sound yeah it's a it's a great startup sound but yeah the reason we're talking about this is that this month marks the 30th anniversary of the PlayStation release here in the United States. Here, of course, released December 3rd, 1994 in Japan, but then didn't make its way stateside until September 9th, 1995, and then the 29th in Europe, and then all around the world thereafter. I don't remember the launch being a huge thing.

Yeah. Like, like, I, you know, and again, I was not paying attention. to games in the same way, but I was definitely playing games and definitely tracking new consoles. It did not feel like the existence of the Sony PlayStation was seismic, obviously. Sony's entry to the market, but I don't remember the launch itself being like this earth-shattering thing. Well, there was, I mean, I remember going to KB toy stores with my parents and seeing the announcement, like a poster that said Sony PlayStation.

Yeah. And I had this vague idea of like, there being. other companies that made game systems but I was like this is going to not work it's Nintendo or Sega like that's who makes games and there was at least for the people who the limited number of people I knew who played video games at that age

there was like a skepticism for for for my small group of of gamer friends it was it was kind of like I don't know and like looking at pictures of the controller and being like at look cool but does it work you know yeah the the you know like the the initial playstation one controller did not have the analog sticks it had a very weird looking and honestly i think

kind of cumbersome to use d pad um that is the persisted in various forms and been improved upon uh obviously the the buttons were their own thing that the two was it the first to have the four shoulder buttons i think it was i could be wrong I think that's, I kind of remember that the very first one only had L1 and R1. Oh, that might have been an addition with a dual shock is what came with the L2 and R2. Yeah, yeah, the second ones were then on every version afterward. It was also such a weird time because Sega made the colossally terrible choice to suddenly launch the Saturn that summer. Surprise launch.

Yeah, they announced at E3 and that system will be available today, which has, had, like, fucked over retailers. It fucked over, like, so much of the industry. Yeah. Because they were like, oh, God, if Sony eats our lunch were fucked. So there was, I had, I mean, I already had a Saturn, and I thought it was so magical because Panzer Dragoon was one of the launch titles, and it was so gorgeous compared to the, um, Sega CD. Like, I was like, this is, this is all I need.

Yeah. And then the launch titles for PlayStation were like Battle Arena to Shinden. Yes. And that was not a good game. No, a weird, like, you know, C tier at best fighting game. You know, it's, it was, yeah, they didn't, what it was, it was Jump and Jack Flash. I don't know if you have the launch titles in front of you, Matt, but Jump and Jack Flash, I feel like it was a pretty early. Just Jumping Flash.

Just Jumping Flash, I apologize. Yeah, Jumping Jack Flash is the song and the Will Be Goldberg movie. Yeah, the Jump and Flash, which, you know, people, their fans exist of that game. Bellarina To Shindon, kind of whatever. I like, like, but the, the other thing about the Saturn is that it was initially two-d-focused and grafted on 3D to compete with the PlayStation. Also, again, with the surprise launch, another thing were just like the genius level stupidity of Sega displayed in being ahead of their time like they were with like all the

online play that was built into the Dreamcast, but in a disastrous sort of way. Because, you know, like Apple would do surprise launches, but they figured out how to do it by by the time it was, they had the infrastructure for that. The games that were launched titles in North America included Air Combat, Rayman, Ridge Racer, great game. Ridge Racer. Street Fighter, the movie. Oh, yeah.

Battle Arena to Shindon, Jumping Flash, Power Serve 3D tennis, the Raiden Project, Lemmings 3D, wipeout, and Killeek, the DNA imperative. You know, wipeout's no slouch, but it's kind of a, like, it's, you. Yeah, it was a semi-underwhelming lineup. It took some time to come into its own. But, like, what was so smart, again, about Sony is that they had a 3D strategy. They were, like, aware of where gaming was going. And they made a console focused on, you know, like having 3D hardware capabilities that the games could take advantage of.

There were also NBA Jam Tournament Edition and Soul Calibur, which is a pretty decent game, though not the showstopper that Soul Calibur. was it can't have been sole caliber for but was it sole edge I mean yeah so sole edge it's listed here on game rant dot com as sole caliber um

but yeah I I uh I remember renting the PlayStation and renting to Shinden and uh jumping flash and being like boy these are clunky these are these are clunky games

this ain't it especially because Because, again, can't sing the praises of Pansir Dragoon enough, was so smooth, orchestral, grand, you're riding a dragon, it's flot, like, it's beating its wings. And the last, like, 3D flying game that you played before that was probably Star Fox. Right. Like, it was just, it was awesome. It's interesting that it came out when it did, because it's obviously, it's at the tail end of the Super Nintendo. That's still, like, you know, massive.

and it releases before the Nintendo 64, which is obviously their next thing, and then contemporary with the Sega Saturn. But kind of then really kicked off. I mean, I guess the console wars had already begun because of Sega and Nintendo, but now that there's a third entrant, or third major entrant,

rather than some of these other ones that aren't doing so hot now, it became a real thing. And of course, I feel like we should mention, that the PlayStation only exists because of a failed attempt to make hardware with Nintendo. Yes, yeah. What a different world it would be. Yeah.

If, first off, if, you think that's what, that's where things started to go the way we are now? That's the moment. It could be, yeah. Well, like, if Nintendo had had a CD add-on, like, it would have been such a, like, color-forward experience. Like, because Super Nintendo games were always leaning on the fact that they could display more colors than the Genesis. So it would have been such a color forward experience. It probably would have been a launch game would have been a Miyamoto game. Like, it would have been a totally different trajectory.

And then the PlayStation doesn't come out. And then maybe Sega still exists as a hardware company. It's a, it's just, it's, you know, it's hard to play the, the what if game with something that was so huge. because it's just like it changes absolutely everything about the video game industry. So many games don't exist as we know them. Then the hardware market is obviously completely different. But it's a fascinating thought exercise.

The other thing we'd lose is the Philip CDI Nintendo games, which are of course so fucking bizarre. Yeah. They're so, I mean, one reason I think that and along with the Super Mario Brothers live action movie that came out in the 90s, the Nintendo is so protective of their IP now, is because back then it completely fit them in the ass

that they let some other developers mess around with Zelda and Mario and ended up with, excuse me, princess. I can remember the first PlayStation game that did Wow Me, which was Bushido Blade. Oh, sure. Bishito Blade was a 3D arena fighter.

Arena fighter, is that right? I don't know. You would have these sort of large play areas and most of the fighting games at the time were very confined. Most of them were 2D. There were just the beginning of transformation into 3D fighting games. But you could free run anywhere on the level. And any damage you did to the opposing player or that they did to you was permanent.

So if you struck them with your sword and they took the damage in their arm, they couldn't use that arm anymore. It was a really interesting, I was like, oh, this is a type of game I haven't seen before. And that's when I started getting interested in picking up a PlayStation, even though I already had the Saturn. Bouchido Blade was very fun. I maybe only rented Bouchido Blade, but really enjoyed it. It's like kind of like an anti-fighting game in the way that, again, just like you, it's like when you play Rainbow 6 versus like a more arcadey FPS game.

and you could just take like you shoot someone once and they're dead it's the same sort of thing of just like you hit someone with a fucking katana they're just probably going to die the match is going to be over i'm almost certain that bushito blade was my first PlayStation game that's why after i rented it i was like oh this is it this is the thing and either saved up money or begged my parents for a christmas present and got the PlayStation and bushito blade and then that was my two systems for a while was Saturn and PlayStation. The free roam running was a big part of the fun of that game, too, as you mentioned. I got to say, I got to issue a correction.

If you're being a panatic listener out there on social media or in the Discord, I'm correcting it. All right? So whatever you typed, you can just go ahead and delete that now. I would say, too, save your corrections for when you're done listening. Because this happens. Sometimes you'll see a comment that's like, oh, I wish they said this. And then guess what? Not two minutes later, we say it.

I started to doubt myself, and I was correct when I looked it up, to doubt myself. Excuse me, Princess is not from the Philip CDI game. It is from a cartoon. It's from an animated series. But there are a bunch of, there are a bunch of, there are a bunch of shitty quotes and with really bad voice acting from the Philip CDI. So I can give myself two Pinocchio's. that I heard what the correction was yeah you can't have that happen again you cannot mess up like that again I have a very specific um PlayStation

early PlayStation memory for me because I did not get one at launch obviously I was but a wee boy but I remember seeing it at my uncle's house and being like excited when he would be playing on the PlayStation because that to me was it was more grown up it was like more like oh these are like the this is where like the cool games are like these are like the the cooler games and like at that point uh he was playing like metal gear and um well maybe not right at that point but like when i became super aware of it he was playing metal gear and tenchu um oh yeah which still in my there's like there's sound effects from that game that are just stuck in my brain because like the like the sound effects of like

like slashing at people with like your sword were so so good uh in that game but uh i got i got my PlayStation i think in like 1997 or 1998 so a couple years after the fact and i was so pumped in the first game the two games that i had well i had three games for it one of them was a demo disc that i've mentioned on uh this show before it was the sony playstation interactive CD sampler disc volume 5. Wow. Okay. And it had games like Parapa the Rapper.

Tomb Raider 2, Armored Core, Cool Borders 4, Star Wars Master of Terris Kasi, NFL, Game Day 98, NHL, Face Off 98, Crash Banacute 2, Cortex Strikes Back, Intelligent Cube, and Jet Moto 2. What a phenomenal disc. Yes. I played this game so much because I didn't have that many. PlayStation 1 game. God, that is a good disc.

Yeah, so I would play a lot of the ones over and over again, mostly because the Star Wars game there is like a lightsaber fighting game. I would play that with my brothers for hours. That I remember being pretty bad. Yeah, it was not great. But it had Star Wars characters. Yes. My PlayStation

came with, I think, Demodisc 1, which one of the features was just animation of a Toronto Sorcerer X. And that was it. And they were like, look how real it looks. And at the time, you were like, wow, this, this looks real. The other game that we had was Tomb Raider, which...

Speaking of dinosaurs. Speaking of Terexas, yeah. But it was not a game that was not a game that I was particularly interested when I was that little. Sure. But I've said this before on the show, too, but I remember waking up in the middle of the night, my mom sitting in front of the TV like in Poulter guys playing Tomb Raider. And just like, I was shocking to me because I was, like, then I feel like I remember telling my brothers and was like, guys, mom's cool.

Like, she's like playing a video game. And then I had Tony Hawk's Pro Skater. Yeah, of course, yeah. And that obviously changed the trajectory of my life forever. But yeah, so I got to it late, but then we just like we had it. I still have, well, no, I didn't even have my, at some point along the way, we said goodbye to my PlayStation 1. and then I had to re-buy a PlayStation one because that was one of the features

of things to do at my wedding. I had Tony Hawk's Pro Skater and Crash Bandicoot for people that wanted to play video games in the bar that Heather went to a nice little CRT for. That's a cool little setup. I have footage here of the tech demo for the T-Rex that came packed in with the original PlayStation.

And there's no backer backgrounds, there's no nothing. Oh, my God. It was just footage of a dinosaur. Then you could control if his head moved, you could move him in space. But at the time, this looked real to us. I was going to say, I sort of understand the people that ran out of the theater when the train came from screen.

It's a good model. It is a good model. It's also, that's the only thing the PlayStation is doing. so every polygon that it is capable of producing is in this one dinosaur, which was kind of a misleading tech demo because you were like, oh my God, if games are going to look like this,

it's going to be like Jurassic Park on my television screen. Do you guys want to take a guess at when Sony ceased production on the original PlayStation? It's interesting because they had the remodel. They had the PS1, which is like I would want to,

you know, really aesthetically pleasing a console really really small like actually white like it was like as opposed to the gray it was like a like a totally white body to it looked really great and then it had a detachable screen I'm gonna I like I mean these things the shelf life of these things stretches out really long especially internationally I will guess 2009

so PS2 comes out in 2001 right or is it 2000 one of the one of the other maybe 2000 Yeah, it must have been 2000. So, I'm going to guess 2010. It was 2006, which is still a really long time. It's 11 years, and it's the year the PlayStation 3 came out. Wow. Yeah, I can imagine them having a meeting like, we got to stop.

We got to stop making these. While we're talking to our personal histories with the PlayStation one, I did buy PlayStation 1. It was the first time. It was a thing I bought with my own money that I had saved up. And it was the first time I became someone owning a non-Nintendo console. I did end up getting it. I did have a Nintendo 64 as well, which I got earlier. I got the Nintendo 64 at launch because they wanted to play Mario 64. You're the kid in the video, right? I'm looking, yeah, I'm looking at the video. But no, it was the first time I had a, I had a PlayStation, you know, the first time I had a non-Nintendo console, like I, like, and I was also a PC gamer, but that, that's obviously its own thing. I felt like something of a betrayal, but what are you going to do?

And anyway, like, you felt betrayed or like, or then? No, like I was like betraying Nintendo, yeah, but, but, but, but the thing. I heard Mario cried. Oh my God, don't tell me that. I heard Mario cry. Oh, my, oh, fuck. I feel horrible. Yoshi licked his tears.

There was a compilation. Where did you go? There's a compilation video on YouTube I used to, I would share for the appropriate occasions that was someone had just strung together a bunch of clips of Luigi crying. Anyway, I mentioned this before. I think the games that got me to buy a PlayStation 1, it's not anything shocking, but it was an experience playing Resident Evil at a friend's house and then also the Final Fantasy 7 ads and a limited amount of time I got playing Final Fantasy 7 where I was just like, I got to own this fucking thing. This is doing stuff that is just not available on Nintendo hardware. And also as someone who had played Final Fantasy 1, Final Fantasy 4 slash 2 U.S. and Final Fantasy 6 slash 3 U.S. and loved all. of them, I was like, I have to play the new Final Fantasy game. I guess at the time, it was the fourth Final Fantasy game that had actually been released in the U.S. They later went back and, you know, have released the full catalog, but, you know,

they never released five here. They never released two or three. So I was like, I got to play the new Final Fantasy game and the cinematics there, like the dinosaur animation, were just so staggering for the time that I was just like, I just have to experience this. And so Final Fantasy 7 was the first game I bought for PlayStation 1 when I got it, which I believe would have been 1997, played the shit out of it, loved that game so much. And the second game I bought was actually not Reson Evil. It was Castlevania Symphony of the Night, which I read a bunch of rapturous reviews in, you know, like the EGM and Game Pro and, you know, other mags of the era that were just talking about how great it was. was, I know it was a game that did not sell well initially because it was a 2D experience, but, you know, the game that gave us the idea of a Metroidvania, because that was the first

time that Castlevania had a, you know, like more of an open-ended structure as opposed to the linear sort of straight-ahead approach it had in the earlier games. And just an absolute masterpiece, one of the best, one of the best 2D games that's ever been made. The Saturn version of just go back to the Saturday. The Saturn version of Castlevania Assembly Night, which I never experienced, I always heard was better. Yes.

But the PlayStation port was, you know, obviously much more easily available. It was also uncensored. Because there was some light censorship in the PlayStation version that wasn't present in the Saturn version. Yeah. Especially if you,

my Saturn was my first ever modded system. Like I brought it to a place that modded systems in Chicago and I asked if I could make They could put a switch in it that would make it so they could play Japanese games or American games. And you would just have to make sure the power was off before you threw the switch. And then I could import games for the first time. And that was crazy.

But we're not talking about Saturn. We're talking about PlayStation. The way you would play imported games on a PlayStation if you had the original model is you would wait until the boot started. And you would have a paper clip or something jammed in. into the mechanism of the door so that you didn't have to close the door when you were playing a PlayStation game, like lock the lid.

I had accomplished it with a couple of beads that I had jammed in the mechanism and then taped over. So the door was perpetually open. You'd wait until the boot animation had stopped. And then you would pull out the disc physically and jam in an import disc. And you could bypass the import copy protection stuff.

Wow. So I, those two systems are my first introduction to like, oh, I can go to the Japanese mall and get games that nobody has. Yeah. That may not ever come out here. I got Ghost in the Shell for PlayStation 1 because there was no, like, Ghost in the Shell wasn't huge here. Right. And I, and it's a phenomenal game. It did eventually come out for the PlayStation.

But I had it for at least a year, if not more, before it was announced. Wow. and I don't know it was a pretty exciting it was an exciting time also to what Nick was saying about Final Fantasy 7 I don't think people now can understand the sort of

concussive speed of Final Fantasy 7, 8 and 9 all hitting within four years like like the biggest games that anybody had seen all coming out for the same system. Now we're lucky if we get one Final Fantasy

game per system. And at the time, there were three on the PlayStation 1 and each one of them was a full banger. And just a completely different swing. Obviously, seven is the one with the biggest legacy, but eight is trying some crazy shit, nine kind of a response to eight,

or at least that's how it was perceived and sort of its return to more of a fantasy, sort of aesthetic, but, but yeah, and then obviously, again, we're not talking about Sega, but the move to completely cuck the Dreamcast launch in North America by launching Final Fantasy 8 on the exact same day, a master stroke by Sony. And now people, like, that doesn't happen. People like, a game gets announced, and then other games are like, we're not even trying to come out on that day anymore.

We're not doing it. Yeah. The way, you really, like, Heather, I had not thought about that sort of the, the, the, the, soft mod a way of, you know, getting your, playing import games in so long. Like, like, yeah, that used to be a thing. You also could get a mod chip, which was, I think for our listeners who were maybe not as familiar with the region breaking of previous generations, you would generally, you would go to an independent game store, or you could do it yourself, but it was usually

easier just to go to some guy who had the stuff and then pay a guy who looks like me now to open up your hardware and then solder a chip that would pass the region protection so you could play imports. I did ultimately do that on my PlayStation 1 a few years later.

I still have my original PlayStation 1. I wish I had my own. Which I got the Mark 1. So it has three audio outputs on the back instead of the fused single like Sony proprietary jack. It has like RCA outputs. And there are audio files who still, because they were taking such a beating, like a big loss on the CD drive on the original PlayStation just to get it out, that there are a bunch of people who still use the original original PlayStation as their CD driver.

Wow. Because the audio fidelity on it is apparently like an extraordinary engine. I never heard that. Yeah. That's rad. And certain subsets of like audiophile community You will see these like

Re-skinned like glass PlayStation's Yeah Or like somebody has taken the entire chip set And the drive and put it into a different housing So that they can just use it as a CD player That's fucking rad Yeah

I gotta talk about my PlayStation build If you will Okay I had the one controller That came with it I never had the dual shock controller for the original PlayStation. Didn't have that experience until PlayStation 2, right?

My other controller was like a Mad Cat's like third-party controller. Of course. And both of my memory cards were third-party memory cards. Yep. And that was, and it was playing on a TV that I wanted a family reunion and everybody was really mad because I was a little kid and I won the raffle. Everyone was pissed off at me. Toward the end of the PlayStation's life cycle is when I got a job working at a video game store.

And they were selling the gamer television, the GX TV, at the video game store. So I used my employee discount and got a GX TV so that I could play PlayStation at like higher fidelity or however the fuck it was sold to you. Um, it's, uh, it's one of the things that I don't own anymore that I really fucking wish I still had was the GX TV. Um, you guys should look it up. It had a, it was a CRT television with a closed front, right? Uh, and when you opened the front, they were huge speakers. Like speakers, the size of the screen. And it was an all in one model, uh, with a, also with a giant speaker on top. What do you think, Matt, that thing? Uh, this is. Uh, this is. Uh, this is. Uh, this is. Uh, is the most Heather and Campbell thing I've ever seen. Yeah, yeah. It's like that dinosaur from Jurassic Park that spits on Newman.

The De Lafasaurus. Matt, you mentioned Crash Bandicoot, which was a big part, like, you know, a big reason the Sony PlayStation 1 ruled the world and the PlayStation 2 obviously as well was the marketing. And, you know, they kind of took the followed of Sega's playbook for the Mega Drive and the Genesis, which was kind of making it like a little bit cooler than Nintendo.

Yeah. But here they, like, absolutely just look cooler and more adult than what Nintendo was offering. Yeah. And, you know, like, certainly the Final Fantasy 7 being, like, just watching TV ads of that was so, like, crazy at the time. The Grand Tarismo ads as well were also, like, things that just, like, made this game. So, you know, look so compelling and, again, kind of like more of a grown-up experience targeted at teens as opposed to little kids. And then, of course, the, as I mentioned, Crash Bandicoot, they had a Crash Bandicoot mascot character, past guest Alex Berg back in our old format at one point played Crash Bandicoot in the mascot suit. So crazy.

It's one of the things that confused me about what Hollywood was. This guy we know is Crash Bandicoos But those were like Kind of like you know Edgy, quirky, funny You know like kind of I pre-internet

Or early internet sort of Like random sort of comedy And they connected with audiences in different way than Nintendo's marketing Crash was huge for me When I was a kid Specifically because I didn't grow up

In Nintendo kid So like Not on my radar It was Pokemon and crash, right? So I have two very specific crash-related memories. One was we were, like, leaving to go somewhere, and I hadn't saved yet, and I'd just beaten the boss that was taking me, like, a long time, and my brother came and hit the

eject button, which, by the way, I miss buttons that push in. Physical buttons are fun. Physical buttons are so good. They were. They had great buttons on this thing, but he pushed the eject button, that opened the You know, the climb shell, the lid. And I was devastated and was in a bad mood the whole time that we went out. And then the second crash memory that I had was going home early from school on September 11 to 2001 and playing crash team racing all day.

Wow. Got a lot done. And that they've now re-released, you know, the insane trilogy, Crash Bandicoot. crash team racing and crash team racing I still think better I think better than some of the Mario carts I'll go ahead and say it I think it's really good crash team racing was was solid it was it was a it was a fun cart race yeah also that that reminds me of you know one of the most early 2000s images of all time Matthew Perry RIP as Chandler being on friends playing crash team racing that's right that's it look crash on friends

that's like that's like game recognized game kind of you know what I mean like France is the biggest show on TV maybe not at that point but like it's you know

it's a huge show then crash team racing's on the thing it's like damn it's not unlike when Kevin Spacey played the Vita on house or cards

yeah yeah it's it's not as weird as that but lobby on Congress is kind of like eating barbacute

fucking foghorn leghorn I love the backpad technology on the PlayStation Vita Like killing a dog Have you played this exclusive Uncharted card game I want to talk about Being a girl gamer

And Tomb Raider Because at the time I know the Tomb Raider is designed For the male gaze Like you're staring at her ass Every time she like pushes herself up on a ledge. It sounds like she's fucking the ledge. Like, I get it. I get it. But I got to play this thing. But also, I had grown up playing video games. And I had never played as like a

girl action hero before. And it was such an emotional experience for me. Like I was like, this is like, like I felt like special and seen. Even though I know that I wasn't the intended audience for it. Like so much of the marketing of Tomb Raider was, you play as a girl and then it would be like her like pulling a gun like it was a dick like you know it's like not it it was extremely 90s and extremely like you know unwoke or whatever yeah but for me personally being an archa an archaeologist girl main character with guns who was like going through this adventure was really really important to me and Tomb Raider 2 was one of my favorite games on the

entire system. So when you were like, oh, it's on the demo desk, I was like, that's the good Tomb Raider. That's the one where you start and you can like lock your butler in a freezer. I've weirdly like never played any of the six original Tomb Raiders. They are

so of their time. The mechanics and everything are really clunky. Like if you if you played Mario 64 and you're like, oh, this is rough. Playing Tomb Raider is like trying to drive a car with cardboard covering it. Like, you can't see anything.

You don't know, like, reversing is really hard. Like, it was, they are a very mechanically precise game also. Like, you would have to, like, step specifically up to certain ledges to be able to jump certain distances. And you would have to, like, inch the character forward in order to achieve these things. Or, like, set where you were going to jump and then, like, do two backstores. so that you could get the proper amount of leg movement before you left. I really remember, yeah, like seeing, like, you know, Laura Croft doing, like,

flips to get, like, from platform to platform. And, like, that is, like, insane, of course. But, like, yeah, seems like it would be difficult to achieve. It was a difficult game, but it was also so enjoyable. Yeah. I don't know. The, what you talk about, I mean, like, like, obviously, again, they were their marketing towards, you know, horny teen boys with the way they pushed Tomb Radio for them.

I don't think that was necessarily the intention of the devs. Wasn't she in Playboy or something? I don't know if they went that far. There was a video game character in Playboy. Now it's escaping me who it was, but I remember that. Look, it was Blood Rain, okay? I know. I'm sorry, I know that, but I know that.

Was it Playboy or was it like Maxim? It was Maxim. It was one of the, yeah, they did definitely were like leaning into that. But I mean, that was, again, also part of why they were like, the anti-Nintendo. There were other games that were just like getting very like pushing how horny they were. I mean, the Parasite Eve games. Again, I don't think

that was necessarily attention, but that was the way they were marketed. And then there was the Fear Effect series, which I think is defunct. But, you know, I remember those games being like, like, in, like, very horny. It was, again, you just weren't seeing the stuff on Nintendo hardware. The other thing you weren't seeing like outside of,

And that was part on cartridge, on the cartridge format was extensive voice acting and, you know, symphonic scores. And that was like such a huge distinguishing characteristic. That was a big part of what made it feel so like, like such an upgrade, even though in some ways the Nintendo 64 was superior hardware. And, you know, I think that brings us to Metal Gear Solid, which we should talk about. I will say this. I really like Metal Gear Solid. And I love the Metal Gear Solid VR Missions, which was a separate game or I think it was a separate full game that I later bought. But it did not grab me and did not make me be like I'm like I love this series at the time.

Like I appreciated it, but it was not really like a, you know, it didn't get its hooks in me. Metal Gear Solid 2 is the one that made me be like, oh, fuck, I love this. Yeah. Yeah, but still, Metal Gear Solid was like such an amazing experience and, you know, just, again, like the stealth as gameplay was such a novelty and so much voice acting in that game, such a cinematic presentation, it really felt like so cutting edge in the air in its moment. I've played some of it actually pretty recently on my PlayStation Vita, and it's interesting because it's obviously, it's very of its time in terms of gameplay but it's very challenging

it's a you can't it's because like the one my main metal gear is snake eater right so you do have that sort of like it's still a stealth game but you could also just kind of like go crazy and just like you know be a murderous

psycho in this game but in that one you can't Sam you just killed that man oh no sam sam sam make sure you don't use your your your your grenade launchers because it makes too much noise with the explosions um but yeah like in in in in middle gear solid one uh it's if you get seen you're basically done for it's you're cooked you're but it's i i feel like that game belongs on maybe it belongs on the Mount Rushmore

of PlayStation 1 games, I think, right? I have my 10. You have a 10. I have my 10, and I wonder how much overlap there is between all of our 10. So I didn't make a 10 going in. I thought we were going to collectively make a 10, but I want to hear your 10.

No, no, no. Well, we can make a collective 10. I mean, you know, I would use yours as a starting point. Well, a game that we haven't talked about yet that is very important to me is Suikodan, which is a previous to Final Fantasy 7 RPG on the PlayStation 1 with an enormous cast and a small, like, castle building, really,

really good game. It was recently remastered and re-released for the Switch 2 and Switch 1, and I highly recommend it, also for PlayStation's. So, Sui Kodan, Final Fantasy's 7, 8, and 9, Parap of the Rapper, Vagrant Story. Yes, incredible game. Final Fantasy Tactics. Tomb Raider 2. Wait, are this more than 10? One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten.

Oh, it is. Tomb Raider 2, Silent Hill, Castlevania Symphony of the Night, and then Metal Gear as well. I have Metal Gear on the list, but I actually did not play Metal Gear on PlayStation. Wow. I mean, like, yeah, it's so notable that I think it, like, kind of has to be in there. Is there a Resident Evil? Because I would think Resident Evil, too, was one I would think, like, has to be on a list. For other people's lists, absolutely.

The Resident Evil franchise ends up being like a genre-defining series of games. And Resident Evil 2 is incredible. Resident Evil 1 has the first, you know, for a lot of people, the first scare in a video game, which is the dog jumping through the window. It's like become like the iconic moment in retro gaming horror. I think the first scare is when you press start and that guy says, Resident Evil. But I greatly preferred Silent Hill because I was like, this place is fucked. Yeah. Like, it was not, like, Resident Evil had like sort of things that made sense.

It's like, oh, there's zombie virus. Oh, the dogs are zombies too. Yeah. Whereas Silent Hill, you're in a classroom and there's a baby crying for no reason. You're like, oh, come on, what is happening? What is this? I love Silent Hill, too. Incredible game.

I did not get into OG Silent Hill, but I think it's a, it's obvious. fairly fair internet. The games that I would lobby for, one of Oddworld Abe's Odyssey and Oddworld Abe's Exodus. These were to puzzle platformers that were like kind of like a hell world where you were a enslaved factory worker going through a series of really deadly sort of gotlets to free your fellow workers. And it was a gnarly game. I had really cool character design, incredible animation, you know, there were two of them back to back. And I actually prefer Odyssey, although Exodus was a little bit more expansive and ambitious as the sequel.

But, you know, just, like, it was, it's, I love Super Meat Boy is much harder, but also has like, you know, grinding you into things and is a really sort of nasty, bloody sort of game while also having like a like a cute element as it's contrast. Super Meat Boy is way harder, but I like that sort of gameplay where it's like here's a gauntlet I need to get through and I need to like kind of like, you know, I need to be precise enough in my movements to get everything correct so that I can traverse through this section and achieve this objective.

But I would lobby for, you know, maybe an Abe's Odyssey. you. I know that's a little bit of an offbeat pick. I was trying to think of what else should be on there. I mean, you noted Parapa the rapper, which would have been one if you hadn't mentioned it, that I would definitely want on there. I guess it just comes down to what do you want to do with all the, with all the final fantasies? Because, you know, some might say that having three final fantasies on there is perhaps a little bit excessive. But again, this is your list? I'm just, I'm not sure.

Is the exercise we're making a collective list? Yeah, I think it can be a collective list. I nominated all these because, I mean, I think this is Squaresoft at its prime. It's right before the collapsing hubris of Final Fantasy Spirits Within. But like 7, 8, 9 vagrant story, all of those games, tactics, Final Fantasy tactics, those are like monolithic games. They're incredible games. And it's hard for me to imagine the PlayStation without them.

It's kind of like Jim Carrey's early 90s, right? You're just like, holy shit, this guy's on fire. Yeah. It's been talked to death. I've heard this fact on so many, in so many different contexts. Yeah. But Ace Ventura Pet Detective, dumb and dumber, and the mask released the same calendar year. It's insane.

Absolutely staggering. It's like this year with Eddington, Fantastic Four, First Steps, and The Materialist. Look, I like two of those movies quite a bit. I haven't seen the two that you like. I looked it up and Fear Effect had a, like, because I talked about how it was being kind of a horny game. And I was trying to remember which one was it. It was the sequel, Fear Effect 2 Retro Helix.

and it was definitely the sort of thing that was like it was marketed towards like men it was marketed towards dudes but it did have a lesbian love triangle within the game I just got to say I know we did the titles episode

a couple months back at this point Fear Effect 2 retro helix that's an all-timer that's really good is Fear Effect scary no it's not really scary it's more of like an action sort of experience in my memory I only play the first one

it's not enough that it's just called fear right the game's got what is fear yeah like fear is it is nothing what we need is the effect of fear yeah the effect of fear for me me saying ah fear effect

what a meeting god I wish I could like you know if if you get a time machine and you could like go back to certain events And, like, maybe just be, like, a ghost in the room. Then you're, like, witnessing these events and just getting to, like, see history without affecting that time. Oh, my God, Lincoln's conception. You're there the night he's conceived?

Not even. The weirdest part of what you just said is you making eye contact with the other time traveler. There's one other guy in the room. Well, all right. Yeah. Okay. Put a top hat on his dad. Hmm, I like how this fits.

There are so many meetings in 90s game rooms that I wish I could have been a part of and like the naming of Fear Effect would be a good one. Yeah. You know, it's interesting that Rayman was a launch title because I feel like Rayman is now console agnostic. Right.

But like he, like, there's a world where like if there wasn't crashed, Rayman is their guy. And I don't think, I don't know if he had the the juice. I like Rayman. I like Rayman. I like them too. I thought Rayman also came out for Saturn. Did it also? I think it was multi-platform.

I think it was on PC2. I don't know. I remember it being everywhere. I could be wrong. I played the shit out of that first Rayman. I really liked it. I mean, the guy who is, like, I know this may sound biased because of the list I just provided, but the guy who is the face of PlayStation is cloud. Like, he is he is a he's still relevant 30 years later whereas I don't feel like a lot of people that that crash holds a lot of currency anymore sure you know yeah it's kind of a shame because like the after the first three games and crash team racing they sort of bungled the franchise a little bit and there was like crossovers with spiral there was like then he moved uh from naughty dog to Activision and you know Activision of course ruined it yeah yeah uh and it just didn't it didn't ever

really quite recovered. But the most recent one, the fourth one, now the canonical fourth, not the, there was a fourth game, but they're now like, this new one is the fourth one, is supposed to be great fun in the spirit of the originals. I wouldn't put either of these games on the, in my top ten, or on the Mount Rushmore, if we're going to do that, which is maybe the way to go. Maybe, maybe we just, we co-lab on a Mount Rushmore. Wow.

I think that's easier. You know, what are the square triangle, circle, and cross of the, the, the, PlayStation 1 games. See, this right here, that's, that's podcast hosting excellence. That was incredible. First, I should shout out Tekken 3, a PlayStation fighter that I did really like, and the one entry in the Tekin series I really got into. And I think all the Tekken games on PlayStation 1 were pretty good.

But the games I was going to mention were two JRPs, one Krono Cross, the sequel to Krono Trigger that was a little bit bloated and certainly didn't stick the landing, you know, certainly didn't end in a super satisfactory way, definitely not the complete package that is Chrono Trigger. I think it's worth experiencing for someone Matt like you who loves Chrono Trigger now and was as a late convert to it just to kind of see what they were trying. And it was a game that I, like, the way it came out, I mean, I remember I have, I have stronger affinity for the trailer for Chrono Cross because it was, it had such awesome music.

It got me so hype for this game. I was like, holy fucking shit, they're doing this. And then you actually play it and you're like, ooh, I think they lost the plot a little bit. But it is still a cool game, and it's an ambitious game. The other game was going to shout at this game. I mentioned before when we were doing like a retro, what are you playing? But Zeno Gears, which is just an awesome, again, super ambitious JRP that also is a little bloated and certainly does kind of like collapse under its own weight towards the end, but is just like

an awesomely ambitious game with its own, you know, like distinct aesthetic and burst the Xenosauga is the one where you fight Jesus Christ at the end? Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't say it's you're fighting Jesus Christ, but yeah, there's definitely some, you know, crucifix imagery. I'm fighting him every damn day. What? Wait, what is that? I don't know.

You're fighting him? We're fighting. Or he's testing me Oh, Jesus is testing you Yeah You're confusing him with the devil I don't know which is which Big red guy

Yeah that's Jesus Okay That's Jesus after he's been on the cross For a while The sun Why'd we make it like this Why'd we make it like this? The issue is

You say something like that And to me I like that joke Yeah. But now we've got to worry about the FCC shutting down headgo. Man, to quote M&M, the FCC won't let me be. I think that if we're going to make a Mount Rushmore, if we're going to make like a top, like a top four of or just like the Dutemic most important, most significant, most iconic PlayStation 1 games.

I do, I mean, Final Fantasy 7, I think has to be on there. It's one of them. I think there's an easy three. I think it's Final Fantasy 7 I think it's Metal Gear Solid 1 And I think it's the first Resident Evil You think it's Resident Evil 1 I would go 2 but I guess Resident Evil 1 maybe

Had more of an impact Yeah that's it's hard to argue with Those games despite My lack of personal experience with Metal Gear 1 Yeah Now the question becomes do you go Grand Turismo Which you know based on sales And based on relevance and based on

you know, it's long tail might be the entry there. I don't know if you, like, certainly wouldn't be my pick. I'm not someone who's into racing games. Yeah. You said long tail and Jimmy looked up like, oh, more for me to chase. Do you go with a crash bandicoot? I'm not sure. I mean, there's a lot of options.

But yes, filling that fourth slot is tricky. A Symphony of the Night was mentioned, not a game that sold well, but a game that is incredible and has, you know, existed in the collective consciousness. of gamers continue to persist. I do think that if there, if, if, if it were to be a crash bandicoot, I would personally say crash bandicoot to wrath of cortex. But see, that's these, I agree that's a better game and it's, it's a more fully, but this is the, this is the Resident Evil versus Resident Evil 2 argument.

Yeah. Like, and I think it's fine to say, hey, Resident Evil 2 and Crash Bandicoot 2 are what's up there. Is it Tomb Raider, which could be? Not only is still an existing franchise and, like, upcoming television show. Yeah. But, like, it could be argued maybe that Uncharted doesn't exist without Tomb Raider. Totally. I don't know.

I don't know if I'm looking at the Mount Rush more of, I mean, maybe. If you're just thinking about also the iconography of these games, you see Cloud's face and it's like, oh, yeah, duh. you know, you see, you see the Resident Evil dog. You see Snake and you see Laura Croft and you're like, PlayStation. That's pretty good. You would know immediately what you were looking at. Maybe not with the dog. I just, just to talk through other possibilities,

I don't think it's something for the Ridge Race or franchise. I think if it's a racing game, it's Grand Theresa. But I'll mention it. Parapa the rapper you mentioned, you know, it's probably maybe not in the top four. but just a distinctly PlayStation game and the kind of thing, that's sort of like music experience

with full lyrics is like the kind of thing that you can only do on CD hardware, CD-based hardware. And... Take punch. It's all in the mind. Yep. If you want to test me, I'm sure you'll find. Let's see.

And let's see, what else am I missing here? I mentioned Tekken 3. Spyro the Dragon. No, it wouldn't be. Spiro, but I mean, I think worth mentioning, yeah, maybe it is Tomb Raider. I mean, honestly, it's maybe Grand Turismo, but if it's our list, I guess we can throw Tomb Raider in there. I do think...

I do think... It's funny kind of now to think, because there was a BAFTA list a couple years ago, or maybe sometime last year, where Laura Croft was the number one character, and we were all. Well, that's insane. but she does deserve, I think, a spot on the Rushmore. I mean, it's a British character from a British developer, I believe, too, so probably skewed by them, BAFTAs. Yeah.

Them Brits love their own. What is the, Matt, Matt, what is your take on Tony Hawk's Pro Skater? Because I think there's an argument for that as well. I think there's an argument for it. I was thinking about this sort of over here quietly to myself, which is not conducive to podcasting at all. But I think because, yeah, it was on PlayStation. I think it has a strong association with PlayStation,

but it was multi-platform at launch. It came out on the Nintendo 64 also. I think maybe with a limited soundtrack comparatively, but I think, I think, hey, I'd love to see Tony Hawk doing a 900 on the Mount Rushmore. Why not? There's a game, too, that I don't think that this is, it's in a similar, it occupies a similar space. there was a Spider-Man game for the PlayStation

just called Spider-Man that was I think there are more good Spider-Man games than there are bad ones. I think there are some atrocious ones. But this game to me was everything to me when I was a kid. It's so fun and so great.

There's like, it's not as good as the ones we have now. It's more of a linear thing and like the swinging is very limited and stuff. But it was one of the very first games I ever had a dream about that then gave me solution to what problem I was having. I kept

there's an early early like I was like having a hard time in the beginning of this game and you know keep in mind I'm seven years old sure so I'm like dumb little shit not that different than now you said it hey what the heck wait I am stupid

fuck but you have to stop this bank from blowing up and I was like I'm putting the safe I'm putting the bomb in the safe but nothing's happening you got to press the button I had to dream it I had or I had to push close the safe and then I was able to continue the rest of the game game gets really hard after that I think it's all-time great game to me but I don't think it deserves a spot on the rushmore but I just had to shout it out still I I think the case for Tomb Raider is solid except I looked it up I'm reading just from Wikipedia here it was first released on the Sega

Saturn, Heather, followed shortly by versions for MS. DOS and the PlayStation. That's like, this is a Hydrox situation. Yeah. Huh, did I play it on the Saturn? No, I'm almost positive I played it on PlayStation because it was considered the superior version. But, yeah, I guess you can't put Tomb Raider on the PlayStation Mount Rushmore. Not allowed.

Grand Turismo, it is. The front of a car it is. By Metiscore. By Metascore, Tony Ox read the top. top five PlayStation 1 games. And, you know, this is skewed by, because these reviews were not being collected in the same sort of way prior to, I forget when Metacritic was established. It might be 1999.

But Tony Hawks Pro Skater 2, Tekken 3, Grand Turismo, Chrono Cross, and Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3. Wow, chrono cross that high. Chronocross got a 10.0 from GameSpot, I remember. And again, just like, I played it too when I was like. Huh. Like I just didn't. I do have a funny story. Yeah. So I, I was playing Chrono Cross after I turned 21, right? Like I'm playing I'm playing Chrono Cross because I think I missed it when the system came out. At some point, you could do the hot swap with burned

games. So I just went back through the PlayStation like library and burned a bunch of of games and was playing them on my PlayStation one. But it was also when I first started drinking, and I had my very first hangover the day that I burned Chrono Cross and put it in the system. And I had never had a hangover before either, so I didn't really know what was happening. So I wake up and I feel like garbage, and I had had a lot to drink the night before and didn't know, like, didn't know what to do. and I was like, you know, I'll just play video games.

So I hot swapped, I hot swapped Krono Trigger, and the sound of the PlayStation boot up made me puke. I would have loved it if that was, that had bookended at the start, you hearing the startup sound and just puking all of yourself. What the fuck? Like, what the hell? Oh, I get it.

Well, guys, I love the problem. PlayStation. Yeah, I love the PlayStation. I look, I'm, look, I'll always be PC, you know, Nintendo, those are the, those are what got me into games, so that's all, we'll always have some allegiance. I've so much, so many frustrations with Nintendo, but I'll keep

buying their, their, their, their shit forever. But, but I, but the PlayStation is, is like, like, it has given us so many like terrific games and also was just like such an innovation and hardware design. And, um, uh, hey, you know,

if everything worked out the way it should have as far as Sony coming Sony becoming a hardware provider but everything Heather yeah the correct companies ended up winning the console but also everything

going pretty good for me I have more rights they're inventing new ones to give you I just get a $10 bill when I go to the airport? All right. Honestly, that would make you going to the airport so much better. If they just handed you just cash. Just 10 bucks.

Get yourself a candy bar kit. Get yourself half a muffin. Good grief. The price is there. Should we do a segment? Yeah, it's your segment. Let's do it. It's time for the question block.

These are, of course, from our Discord, discord.g.g. Slash get played. Here we go. This first one's from Fierce Deity. Hi, Fierce. What's up, Fierce? And they write, are you as excited for Metroid Prime 4 as I am? Motorcycle.

Now, look, I saw this in the direct. Yeah. I am excited about Metroid Prime 4. I'm very excited about it. Yep. I kind of think that the motorcycle looked bad and dumb. Oh. Hot take.

I don't know if anyone agrees with you. there might be some, I haven't read the reactions, and there might be some people who are on the same page. It was in an environment that looked very, just like empty. Sure. It was just sort of like, well, what are we, what is this part of this? There's only one part of the direct that was worth talking about. Well, yeah, the virtual boy, of course, which I can't believe it's just coming up now. That is insane.

What a crazy, crazy world. I don't know how excited you are, so I can't speak to my. excitement relative to yours it seems like you're pretty excited so I would say you know I will answer I'm not as excited as you are but I am excited I think because like you sound pumped a fierce deity for for Metroid Prime 4 I love Metroid Prime I loved playing the remaster you know and I'm I'm excited to say Metroid Prime 4 with a long away a long awaited you know continuation of the franchise feels like on modern hardware yeah I wish I I just wish there was some way I could play two and three on Nintendo hardware, but they

seemed to not want to let me for some reason. Nope. That's what they do. I am probably the least excited about Metroid Prime, but I am excited for people who are excited about it. Yeah, I loved the remaster of one. I thought that was great. That was awesome.

Yeah, I would like an episode on it. Experience it, but. Just don't make me use the fucking switch mouse. Don't make me use the switch mouse. Don't make me use it. Make us use it. I don't want to use it. Make us use it.

I like that they don't make you. Yeah. Nobody's forcing you to do it. I concur. This next one's from Sergeant Sars Ben. A Sergeant Sars? And they're right. Would you rather play games chronologically or in release order?

One of these is objectively correct. Now here's the thing. Fuck, this is a really good question. Also, what series does this apply to? I'm wondering, I can't think of one off the top of my head, but keep going. Well, because think about this. The Metal Gear's solid franchise, just as an example. Oh, okay, yes, that's a good one.

Not necessarily. The games don't follow a chronological order. Some of them are prequels, and some of them are direct sequels to other ones. But they release, you know, in the order that they release, certainly. But it would be, and then the MS-DOS ones as well are part of this canon also. So it would be interesting. It would be, I think it would suck to play them in chronological order because, you know, in story chronological order versus release,

because you would be playing, like, snake eater and Peace Walker into four. Yeah, I actually have the narrative, the chronological timeline here, if you want me to go through it. Please. You start with naked gear, oops, naked, I said naked gear because I was thinking of naked snake. Naked gear is not my mod of metal gear solid. Metal gear solid three snake eater would be first. in 1964. Then in 1970 you have Metal Gear Solid Portable

Ops. Yes. 1974, Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker. These are not, again, not release years, obviously. These are the years of, these are the canonical years in the game. 1975 then, Metal Gear Solid 5, Ground Zero's. 1984, Metal Gear Solid 5, the Pandem Foot Pain. Then in 1995, you get Metal Gear

for the MSX, later part of the NES. At 1999, you get Metal Gear 2, rather, solid snake where we get the you know the solid snake becomes part of it 2005 we get

Metal Gear Solid for PlayStation 1 2007 through 2009 is Metal Gear Solid 2 Sons of Liberty 2014 is Metal Gear Solid

4 Guns of the Patriots and 2018 a game we covered on the podcast with the aforementioned Brendan James

Metal Gear Rising Revengeance which fucking rules anyway I was going to say as far as the main line series goes

the order you would play them in would be Metal Gear Solid 3, Metal Gear Solid 5, Metal Gear Solid, then Metal Gear Solid, Metal Gear Solid 2, and then Metal Gear Solid 4. That would be an interesting experience, but I don't think for an initial play-through. Yeah, I think you'd have to, yeah, that would be like, I've played through these before, let's do it this way to see how it's the story track. I think that generally, you know, there are rewarding experiences when you watch things in chronological order.

for example, if you watch Andor into Rogue One into Star Wars. Yeah. Like that is a very, very, very rewarding experience. But I think that oftentimes prequels are writing for existing knowledge. And I think that the gravity of certain situations, for example, Anakin Skywalker, meet Obi-Wan Kenobi, means nothing if you haven't seen the rest of Star Wars. It's just two dudes meeting. There is no gravity. So I think that you watch things in release order and then for pleasure or interest,

you can watch them in chronological order. That's what I feel. Yeah, I like that. Or play. I think release, I mean, like, I think for first play three, you want to do release order. I'm curious what the correct answer is. Do they say? They didn't say.

They just said one of them is objectively correct. I hope we're on the right side of history. I mean, too. This next one's from horses. GAM. What's up, horse gam? Horse gam. And they write, with Silent Hill F coming out next week, God, really?

Come on. Highest rated Fimitsu Silent Hill of all time. Wow, that's wild. I'm interested in checking it out. I'm also very scared. I'm super excited to check it out. What a great October game. I will say that.

That review is probably a little skewed because the Fenthaler Femitsu. Oh, Silent Hill Femitsu. They're like, hey, a game for us. you're going to say I do it 20 to 30 times an episode and sit there and be like that It's just interesting You remember in Death Stranding 1 How they reference the existence of Femitsu

I mean I remember a lot about that I love Stranding With Silent Hill F coming out next week What's your opinion on the game Not being set in the titular Silent Hill I have an immediate take about this That ain't right I mean, if it's, you know, if it's good,

I think they can, they have the leeway which Silent Hill is now a franchise, you know? Silent Hill, colon, Chicago. Yeah, Simon Hill's not a place, it's a people. It is a little weird, but also the town has become so canonical that it's a little like, okay, well, don't you want to see other environments?

Like, I'm fine with it. I'm very scared to try the game, but I think I will I will investigate it and then finally Mad Max 4025 I'm Mad Max 4025 I'm Mad Max

Wow I'm writing in on my ballot Would you You have to put a 15 foot marble statue of a game character in front of your home forever Who is the character and what is the pose Nico Bellick pointing a gun

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