Get Played - Tiers of the Kingdom: Sony First Party Games

Episode Date: November 25, 2024

Matt, Heather and Nick rank Sony's first party video games, look back at potential games of the year, and play The Price is Byte. NOTE: The We Play, You Play of Metaphor: ReFantazio has been delayed and will be out next week. To cast your vote for the Listener's Choice for Game of the Year in the 2024 Get Played Games of the Spectacular Year Awards, click here. Check out our brand new merch at kinshipgoods.com/getplayed. Follow us on social media @getplayedpod. Music by Ben Prunty benpruntymusic.com. Art by Duck Brigade duckbrigade.com. For ad-free main feed episodes, our complete back catalogue including How Did This Get Played? and our Premium DLC episodes and our exclusive show Get Anime'd go to patreon.com/getplayed. Join us on our Discord server here: https://discord.gg/getplayed Wanna leave us a voicemail? Call 616-2-PLAYED (616-275-2933) or write us an email at [e-mail] Advertise on Get Played via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Podcast. With the $5 meal deal at McDonald's, you pick a McDouble or a McChicken, then get a small fry, a small drink, and a four-piece McNuggets. That's a lot of McDonald's for not a lot of money. Price and participation may vary for a limited time only. Hey, buddy. So you might be expecting to hear our metaphor refantasio episode for this week as promised, are we play, you play.

Unfortunately something happened involving me, I got put on a jury. So I've been at a trial and I've been unable to get into the studio and record. This is 100% true. So we couldn't do this episode this week. And so what we're doing instead, we are going to do a metaphor episode. It'll just be delayed by one week. It'll be coming out a week from today, if you're hearing this on release day. And so it'll be the first episode of December. And for this week, what we're doing is we're releasing a new episode, but it was something that we recorded in the past

to release in the future, if all that makes sense, not to get too granular with our record schedule, but sometimes we'll bank an episode so we have something just in case a situation like this arises. So yeah, so unfortunately no metaphor episode right now, but fortunately we'll have even more time with this sprawling dense JRPG and we will release that for you next week we play you play metaphor refan Tazio with the Triforce of Friendship right now enjoy this episode of our Sony first-party tier list All right, look. We here at Sony know this industry works. Yes, the PlayStation 5 is still in its prime, but we got to get ahead of it.

We got to start planning its successor, the PlayStation 6. Now look, there's been a lot of talk among the top brass. PlayStation 1, the PlayStation 2, the PlayStation 3, these all had iconic startup sounds. Can we hear the PlayStation 1 startup sound? Classic. Sounds like a memory. How about the PlayStation 2 one?

You're about to have a great time here. Beautiful. And hey, PlayStation 3 startup sound. At least the original. Gorgeous. just gorgeous stuff. A masterpiece. We need to match the beauty of those, the majesty of those, the onboarding, the curtain opening of those for an experience of those.

And I think that we in this room can collectively figure that out. So what is the PlayStation 6 startup sound going to be? Yeah. It has to sound like you're playing a video game, but also it can't just be just a video game. It has to be a work of art. You are going up a roller coaster while the sun is rising. Yeah.

Hey, uh, hi. Dougette is my name and I saw the memo for this meeting so I came prepared Uh, because I I wanted to I want to hit the ground running with this. I love it. I love the initiative Thank you so much. So I have a proposal for the startup sound of the playstation 6 unfortunately my um Audio tools crashed on the way here my audio tools crashed on the way here. So what I need from you guys is just a little patience. What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna, so I have the sound.

I know the sound, but I'm gonna have to lay it out like producer style where I give you the bass line, the mid section, the treble, the percussion and the punctuation beats, and then I would love my audio engineer over here to combine those all of the ends so you guys can hear what it sounds like. This is like a live Reggie Watts performance.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can I ask you just real quick? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Could you not do that and just come back with a completely... I wanna hear what Doug Edd did, because I think we'll find out how the sausage is made in real time.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think this will really sonically introduce us to this in its full glory. Well, so everybody knows that a good PlayStation sound has a really good bassline. So I want you to imagine you turn on your console and the first thing you hear is that low rumble and it sounds like this. that low rumble and it sounds like this. Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu. So that's like that bass line on it, okay? So, but then you also got these like medium bits

that are always always sparkly, you know, cause it's like, oh what's that it's calling you and it's mystery. So in the middle you got this sound that's like this. Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblbl experience a world unseen. So for that I've got this like, it comes in right before the bass line is wah-wah-woo. And then you go into the bass line. And at the end, you go out with a

shh-ee. It gives, that's the beginning and the tail end of the sound. And then you've always got that high note, that sunlight at the top of the... Roller coaster. Roller coaster, right. I've never been. So you got that high note that it's just inspiring.

And that note goes like this. And that makes you feel like I can do anything on the PlayStation 6. Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I'm bleeding. I'm bleeding. So is that good or is that bad? Everyone else bleeding? We're all bleeding? Are you wearing a Baskin Robbins uniform? How did you get in here?

I'm on my break. We rank mean dads in Twist Metal as we make our tier list of Sony exclusive franchises this week on Get Played, your one-stop show for good games, bad games, and every game in between. It's time to get played. I'm your host, Heather Ann Campbell, along with your fellow host, Nick Weiger. That's me, your fellow host, Nick Weiger. I'm here with your fellow host, Matt Apodaca. Hello, everyone.

Hello, everyone, and welcome back to the premier video game podcast where this week we are talking tears. We're talking tears. We're talking tears. We're talking tears. Not those kind of tears. And in fact, I would say wipe those tears away and put a smile on your face young man

because we're approaching the Christmas season. Okay, Nick's about to turn his damn car around. You want to stand the Christmas season. Okay, Nick's about to turn his damn car around. You want to stay on the nice list. Oh shit, you're going to bend the ear of the big man? Yeah, I got authority. Oh my God, Nick, put the cup down. I'm doing fine. The way you're holding the cup, you're gesturing too much with the cup in hand.

Nick has a head gum mug in hand. I picture it smashed against the wall any second. He also filled it to the brim with eggnog. It's like right at the line. To be fair, what I saw was a cupful of Brandy's splash of eggnog. Not to get into this too much, I think two of the worst flavored things to combine together. No eggnog taste bad brandy taste

Yeah, no no no no no no no no we stay an eggnog on this podcast It's one of the best it is one of the best Consumable beverages that has ever been invented. I don't even one of these It's sound it's egg like that doesn't bother me like that's that's fine It's the nog apart. No. It's just the overall Flavor of it doesn't doesn't work for me Let me tell you a story about how they don't have eggnog in Holland, right? So I had to learn how to make eggnog myself. Wow. I've never actually wanted to go to Holland more in my life

I know I could avoid this drink seasonally. And I looked up a recipe and it involves egg. You know, you fill a pot with egg and then you slowly bring it up to temperature. What they don't tell you is that if it goes above the temperature it's supposed to be, it instantaneously turns into a pot of scrambled eggs, the entire thing. And the stench of cinnamon scrambled eggs in an apartment that was like smaller than this room, one of the worst smells of my entire life.

And you're on a budget and you're just taking a dozen eggs and dumping them into the trash. Yeah, devastated, devastated. And so this is a good story? No, I said it's a story. Okay. So be thankful. I thought you were trying to bring me on.

So be thankful that somebody is doing the hard work and making it consumable. Be thankful here in the States that you can go to a grocery store on probably November 1st and get a good nog. I'm kind of neutral on nog. He's nog neutral this time. I don't really find myself craving the nog all that often. Ranchia, our producer, Rochelle, do you like egg nog? I don't think I've ever had egg nog.

What the fuck? Do you know what it is? I actually don't. It's a Christmas, it's a... I never thought of that. It is a... I gotta jump on this grenade here. It is a Christmas beverage that is the consistency of melted ice cream.

So it's thick. It is dairy based, usually, though you can get it like an oat based or soy based or whatever. And the fundamental palette of the drink is sweet with cinnamon, nutmeg, cloves. That sounds amazing. Yeah, it's like a melted milkshake.

It sounds amazing, but it typically sucks. No, it does not. It's kind of like just drinking waffle batter in a way. It's like kind of like, you know, it's a weird experience. I am not like, I don't know, I never do a boozy. Like I just like, I've never, I never do a boozy. Like I just like, that's not, I think I'd rather do like a hot toddy if I wanna do like a seasonal sort of.

Now that's good. Yeah. Or like a mulled wine. Yeah, a mulled wine. Yeah, that's fun. Yeah, why not? Both of those are fine. But if you're, you know, if you're Heather and you're 10 and you really wanna do Christmas right,

you get Christmas crunch from Captain Crunch, which is the red and green Captain Crunch. You fill a bowl with Christmas Crunch and then you fill it with eggnog and you eat both of them together and you have never been more happy, more excited, more bouncing off the fucking walls during the holiday season.

I'm, you have no, let me just preface this. And let me just say this. You have no idea how happy I am for you that you had the experience. That sounds like to me an absolute nightmare. It sounds like a nightmare, yes. Not only am I drinking bad drink, my mouth is now filled with my own blood

because of the sharp Captain Crunch Let's not go too hard on a Captain Crunch Captain Crunch stolen valor served What's great also about About nog as a serial component is that the crunch doesn't go down because it does not get soggy because the Viscosity of the nog is so intense Oh, that's interesting

Doesn't get no sock with the nog hmm unless you get like a thin like a shitty thin nog I'm sure it would would would bring it down But like if you get that like the way you made it that things not getting wet at all. No. No. Yeah, no nobody Nobody don't Catching crunchnog omelet. Ugh. God. That sounds awful.

I hated hearing that. I'm just describing what has been said. It is the holiday season and we're approaching the year's end and that means our year end games of this year episode, the goat season is just around the corner so that'll be up in a couple weeks. We're coming up on Goat Seas season.

So, and we want- What a time of year. What a time of year. Anyway, so we will be talking at the games of the year, games of this year in just a couple of weeks now. For the first time, we're going to do a listener pick for game of the year. We've done this, this, this, this,

the special episode, this year end episode, a few years in a row now, but for the first time, we are letting y'all who listen to the podcast vote, and you can vote for that over in our Discord. So we'll be doing that for the next few weeks, and then we'll announce that on our year end episode. Also, for those of you who don't know what our Discord is, I think sometimes you skip over the end credits of a podcast, We'll say what it is right here.

It's discord.gg slash get played. That's our discord. That's how you vote. Yeah. Hop on in and join there. It's a nice little community. It's really, really great. Get some great mods.

Shout out to our mods. Shout out to the mods, by the way. Thank you for your service. That's right. Not stolen valor like that damn Captain Crunch. All right. Cap'n. He's Cap'n, that's for sure. Since we're

approaching the year, the end of the year, we thought we'd talk about some of our favorite games from this past year. It's time for What Were Ya Playin? What Were Ya Playin? Hates Me the Resident Evil Merchant and I'm here to think about the year in review. Another song that's on the toilet and I run. Not at all a Christmas song. No connection to the holiday season. And can I also say, to piggyback off of what Dick is saying, not the words, not any words.

Well, then the song has words. Songs typically have words, unless they're instrumental pieces. Another fork stuck in the road. That's sort of pieces. I know they're for stuck in the road. That's sort of right. Yeah, you're the right ballpark. I'm trying to get a trailer on that strike. What would it worth?

It's worth a world. There's something underneath the door. We have a hand that's raw. I hope you had a blade of your life. Okay, that's pretty good. Yeah, that's pretty good. Yeah, that's pretty good. Black Friday is Alienware's biggest sale of the year! Don't miss these limited time deals on the latest gaming PCs!

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Resident Evil Merchant, thanks so much for asking. I thought I'd talk about a game, an indie game from August that I really, really enjoyed, and that I'm not sure where it will end up, if it will end up on my year end list, my best of the year list. It might end up being an honorable mention, but it was certainly a game that I really, really treasured that came out that I'm really glad I played through. It was the Crimson Diamond. This is a solo project from Toronto basedbased artist and designer Julia Minamata, and this

is a throwback Sierra slash LucasArts adventure game, but a pre-mouse design. It uses text parser input. So instead of clicking on a drawer, you type in open drawer and so forth. And part of the fun is figuring out what you can and can't do. It also has some quality of life enhancements that I talked about when I brought this up previously when we talked about the game to make it more playable and forgiving, a really good log system, a hint book system is well integrated. But a big part of the appeal of this is just the solo dev, Julia Minamata is primarily

an artist and turned this from a pixel art project into a full-fledged game, which is awesome in and of itself. But the backbone of it is this gorgeous EGA pixel art. And Richelle, there's just one screenshot. I thought we could just show the room here. I know y'all saw some of this earlier, but just to give a refresher on the art style.

Yeah, that looks great. It's rad looking. That's so good. It's so classy. It's so cool looking and it also is just so using, it's great art direction, but also so true to the limitations in terms of palette and pixel depth available in the era. EGA graphics was, I can't remember if it was a 16-color or a 32-color standard, but there wasn't a huge palette to work with.

I think it was 16-color. And similarly, there's a soundtrack that kind of sounds like a Sound Blaster sound card or an Adlib sound card of the era. The story is this charming and engaging mystery. The protagonist, who you see there in that art, eavesdropping, which is a ongoing thing in the game. Nancy Maple is a geologist, which I was like, give me a specific job. How fun is that?

That is fun. Nick, can I ask you if you chose this screenshot because it is a direct mirror of the Ted Cruz 9-11 post? So a woman listening in on a doorway, kind of a coy expression. Blaming an intern for posting it later. And I also say that this is, it's a Toronto based developer,

and I spent some time in Ontario earlier this year, and this game, looking back, has such a pleasant rural Ontario, rural Canada sort of energy to it. A lot of it is just like, it has elements of Canadian history, which I really have an appreciation for. But anyway, I expected this one to be a little bit more of an indie darling when it launched.

It looked like it was like getting, you know, going to be a fair amount of hype and I thought this would maybe get a little bit more renowned than it maybe did. But you know, it is a crowded field out there and this is a pretty esoteric experience even for a nostalgia slash pixel art sort of game. You know, some of the puzzles are kind of inscrutable. And so if you're not familiar with text parts for games, you know, you may be in for that. But if you are someone who liked something like Case of the Golden Idol, which is a game we did an episode on and, you on and have a game I really enjoy.

Our games like it. If you like mystery games, if you like games that are narrative driven, that are about story, that are about interacting with characters, I think you will really appreciate this one if you missed it when it was new to release. So yeah, The Crimson Diamond, that was a game I really, really enjoyed from 2024. I feel like I heard, and maybe I'm misremembering the statistic, but that every day now on Steam, as many games are released as were released in its first year of existence.

I can buy that. And if you look at the chart of release, like the sort of, you know, logarithmic, I don't know what the fuck a chart that just goes in a you. Yeah, it's a you it's a sideways you Or an L. It's an L a sideways L anyway exponential logarithmic growth Like it's it's it's growing at an accelerated rate. That's the word, exponential. I don't know nothing about no charts or graphs.

I'm just a simple guy. Yeah, you're just a simple guy, Matt. There are a lot of games out there. That's what I like about you. I don't know any of that stuff. The thing is, and now it's getting exacerbated with AI obviously, but like so many of them are, you know, clones of successful games, games with similar names

and similar mechanics, you know, just outright predatory games. There are a whole bunch of porno games, like so many porno games are just coming out all the time. And so I think that's like a big part of like why there's just so much like just shovelware out there. But yeah, it is cool that this game was released. This is a game with a lot of artistic pedigree behind it, and it's really well crafted, and it's a really cool singular vision

that I hope more people experience. All right. It looks really, really interesting. I don't know if it's necessarily my type of game, although I did like um, case of the golden idol quite a bit. So maybe I will have to check this out. I, I mean if it's, if it's enough for Nick to highlight it at the end of the year, maybe we should all try it out.

You know it's pretty good. Yeah. It made the list. It made the list. Nick could have talked about anything. Yeah, he could have talked about anything. He could talk about one of these damn porno games that come out all the time, I guess. Yeah, that he said a lot.

He said that he knows that there's so many of them. He's like, there's so many, they're coming out all the time. There's so many of them. He's like, I can't stop buying them, he said. What is he getting on his phone? Do you guys want me to talk about one of them? No. Heather, what are you playing?

What were you playing, rather? What was I playing? Well, I'd like to start my segment with a little sound cue. So why don't we hit that music? This game was not on my radar at all at the beginning of the year. I wouldn't even call myself an Atlas fan. Like, I enjoyed Persona, but like, have I played all of them? Absolutely not. But this game grabbed me,

jammed me down in front of the television and said, what are you doing now? And I was like, I don't know. And it was like, you're playing fucking metaphor. And I went, okay. This game and this battle theme is so representative of the game. This game broke the, it broke the addiction of the last few years. I'm saying I sat down in front of my television multiple times, didn't turn on the other unnamed game,

and instead played Metaphor. I fucking love this game. Wow. And I didn't, I didn't, like I dipped into Rebirth, but I bounced off. This game I have not bounced off of. I'm still fucking playing it, I love it. You're the Drake meme putting your hand up at...

No, I'm no fucking Drake of anything. I'm absolutely not a Drake of anything. And pointing at refantasio. Do not ever say... Rebirth, no, refantasio, yes. That I'm the Drake of anything. Let's just say I'm about to be the Kendrick in just a second. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's really just a game that did, yes, completely came out of nowhere at least here in the West. And yeah, just this theme, which is so awesome, the battle theme. Shoji Meguro is the composer, I believe, of this track and was one of the composers on this game and is a big persona, Shin Megami Tensei and Persona composer, but the Persona 5 and Persona 5 Royal soundtrack is so incredible. And this is like on the same level. This game rules so hard that I thought,

you know what, after I finish it, I should really just go back and play Persona. That's how hard this game fucking slaps. I can't believe it. Also, the art fucking, everything about it looks great. The graphics are definitely not above a PS3. They are like, it is a PS3 level visual experience, but it is so fucking good that you're like,

I don't need games to have ever improved beyond PS3. Well, art direction goes so far, you know? And this game did not have great performance on PC. Since we've recorded this, it's possible it's been patched to be running a little bit better. But it is just like, this is a great pick, Heather. I think this is an awesome game to highlight. I'm excited to dive into this.

My copy is at home. It was sitting on my desk when I got home a couple days ago, and I haven't started it yet, and it was about my wife. Picked it up, read the name out loud, said, metaphor refantasio. What the hell? I, the one episode idea I pitched out was a triforce of subtitles off of metaphor refantasio. That is pretty good. It really is up there with, you know, what's the, is it Ogre Battle, Let Us Cling Together?

What's the fucking, can't remember what it is. I like this game so much that I was like, should I go back and buy the collector's edition even though I've already purchased the game? I didn't do it. I have to stop doing that. Yeah, I sort of made a promise to myself that I was gonna stop doing that too

when I had three active ones going and then it canceled all three of them. The thing that tipped me was I looked at Torgl sitting on my couch and I was like, this was a mistake. I don't need to make the same mistake twice. I have to correct myself, it was Tacx Ogre, not Ogre Battle. Before before you get again the aforementioned Discord very hospitable place, but it's a kind of place someone who's pedantic might correct me tactics ogre. Let us cling together

Just getting ahead of it. Tell us what you were playing. Okay, so I know Heather said she bounced off of it. I Had knows I I couldn't I couldn't bounce off of it because this year this year for me was the year of Final Fantasy 7 and the year of the JRPG in general as if you recall started the year I played through Final Fantasy 7 and then Final Fantasy 7 remake in preparation for Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth, which is the game I'm highlighting here. And that game took me months to finish.

That is so much Final Fantasy VII. It's so much Final Fantasy VII. You know, I blazed through the original and the remake, you know, relatively quickly. But by the time Rebirth came out, God, I don't even remember when I finished Rebirth. I know that I did finish it. Yeah.

But I spent so much time in it, and I just thought, this is, I mean, and I know a lot of people like Weiger and many others bounced off of, or you know, finished the first part of the remake, and were like, this is good. The game remake, and then didn't play Rebirth, and it feels like that was actually like,

the bulk of people who played remake were like me, were just kinda like, I'm good at this point. You know, like I had this, but I did, I was I in Rebirth, and part of why I didn't end up committing to it is just cause like, I just kept hearing, especially from you, how meaty it was, what a huge game it was it was It was fucking meaty

It was like oops all meat It was it was thick it was a big game I Absolutely loved it. I thought it was just like one of the most incredible experiences of the year and maybe ever I got a fucking in terms of gaming. It's just more of the story. It's more of the story that you already know. But then it's also, what if there were 10 other things going on?

What if there were three new mini games in every area? You're like, OK, great. What if Final Fantasy VII wasn't enough like Kingdom Hearts 2? So for me, that sort of like really scratches an itch for me because I'm like, that's my whole thing. I love that. The combat in this game is so, it's both's both um very crisp and crunchy but also fluid it is it is incredible it is great great combat I love it if you did not love the

combat in say Final Fantasy 16 which is incorrect take I think but if you did you dislike the combat in Final Fantasy 16 this is sort of a more of the action RPG style that you would be more familiar with. By the way 16 is like a character action game basically yeah it's like it's like much like yeah there's it's much more of an RPG at least if assuming rebirth heightens what's in remake like that's remake is much more of like feels like an RPG. Yeah feel and look, I Love my guys. That's my those are my guys Cloud beautiful

Arith Barrett red 13 Kate Sith Those are guys those are there and I I guess'd do anything for them and I'd die for them. Okay. I love them. And then, you know, I played Chrono Trigger and then Frog is like easily better than all of them. I think Frog is like one of the greatest characters in media up there with Stone Cold Steve Austin. Right. A great guy.

And Homer Simpson and like all these great characters. But Final Fantasy VII Rebirth, I think, I was looking up on my phone to see How many hours? In the app how many hours I spent playing it. And for some reason it's not telling me that because I haven't played it in some time. Well it can't load beyond 999.

Yeah. Yeah. There was a lot, there was, there was I believe it was like somewhere. It was sub 100 maybe maybe was a little above 100. But it was. That's all right. That's that's I mean that's an insane amount of time. But that's more doable than some of the numbers.

Yeah. And it didn't have to be that way. It absolutely did not have to be that way. It could have been a more truncated maybe 45 hour game right sure but there I was committed to doing a lot of the side stuff until I realized that I would never see the Sun again if I Continued the way I was playing it an incredible game. I can't wait for part three it kind of feels like

they have every reason not to do it because this one sold at such a Half-life of the the part, but I there's no way they don't make it I god I hope so I would be I would be Surprised if they don't make it and then release the entire thing as one big game. Final Fantasy 7 complete. That'll get chumps like us double dipping on that, or triple dipping in that case. And then also, I think people who maybe bailed on Rebirth will end up going, I'll get the whole thing.

Because I wouldn't have stopped if Rebirth had just streamed right out of remake. I would have just kept going. Yeah, me too, yeah. It was the intermission that sort of killed the momentum for me. The idea that they could have, and that they will eventually release a Final Fantasy VII that is like 300 hours long,

is startling and beautiful. But I think it was just far and away one of the best games I've played this year. And then looking at my list of games that I've completed, maybe one of the best of some of the previous years as well. It's very, very good. I'd love to hear it. Salute to you for sticking with that.

And I'm glad you loved it so much, but also salute to you for committing with that and I'm glad you loved it so much but also salute to you for committing so you know wholeheartedly to the Final Fantasy 7 experience but finishing the base game and then the remake and then rebirth they were really wonderful and I mean even I mean gosh I loved seven so I mean I loved seven original so much playing it on my Switch that I bought, I own every non-Final Fantasy 11 Final Fantasy game just as an idea. Incredible.

Thinking one day when there's a lull, Yeah. Maybe I jump into eight, maybe I jump into nine, maybe I do- 12, maybe you jump into 12. Maybe I jump into nine. Maybe I do Maybe you trumpeted. Oh, maybe I do twelve. I also don't oh, you know what? I own all three parts of 13 on steam actually I Think that time is going to be kind to 13. I think there's going to be a 13 Renaissance. Hell Yeah, I can't wait to see what else is going on. You know what I? Know it was last year

I'm here a year later looking at my list there was a DLC for Final Fantasy 16 And I finished and I played that too and let me tell you something. I also liked it was it just one more level Absolutely, I think I think you might be a square head. I think you might like square soft stuff I like you love spongebob square pants over here Yeah, you might be cuz you love you love a Kingdom Hearts. You love a lot of Final Fantasy games I think you know you're your tetsuo no more upheld and doctor. I need to refill my Prescription okay, fuck that up, okay? Final Fantasy 7 was one of the games that I will say me personally got me to buy my first non-Nintendo console. I bought a Sony PlayStation for Final Fantasy 7 as well as Resident Evil.

I feel a transition coming up. And we're talking today. Nice. About Sony exclusive franchises. Look at him go. This is our tiers of the kingdom. Look at him cook. Tiers spelled T-I-E-R-S format. We're gonna do tier lists of all these Sony exclusives.

We are ranking franchises, not individual games, because there are too many of them. We're looking at 300, how many do we have? There's like, yeah, like somewhere around 265 of these fuckers. We just can't do that. We can't do them individual games and we haven't played all of these games obviously.

So we're gonna be talking about franchises holistically and a franchise to qualify must have at least two games unless it is a huge notable individual game. We'll maybe get to some of those. Parappa S tier, Katamari S tier, let's go! Yeah, but even that's like, we'll get to it, because Parappa the Rapper had Um Jam or Lamy, so was that a franchise?

It kind of is, and then there's Parappa 2, you know what I mean? We'll talk about it, we'll get into it. But also, so first and second party games are counting, third party games are counting. Third party games may be on a case to case basis. But if a series is now multi-platform but was more prominent, rose to prominence as a Sony exclusive, it is on the tier list.

That's like the Crash Bandicoot rule, if you will. Yeah, the Crash Bandicoot rule, I think, is in effect. Any other things I missed? Any other setup I missed? I don't think so.'s gonna be there's oh There's still quite a few here, so I think There's plenty this is gonna take us way too fucking long as always maybe that's Go in an hour and 15 minutes listener, so if if by chance they are still talking. I'm just going to exit the room

Why don't we start? Why don't we just start at, let's just start with Gran Turismo. Gran Turismo, a good place to start because this is the biggest selling Sony exclusive. This is their number one franchise. I'm going to argue S tier immediately because I don't like racing games. I'm not a racing games person. I own multiple copies of different Gran Turismo games and have played multiple hours of Gran Turismo in PSVR. So I'm gonna say if a fucking game that's like

about like fine tuning down to the gram, your sports car, if I can be invested in that, then that means that it's not just for the race heads, your sports car, if I can be invested in that, then it means that it's not just for the race heads, it's also for people who don't care that much about their vehicles. S-tier game, man, it's S-tier. So this was like, you know, this is very much,

I mean, and they're obviously simier driving simulations, but this is more of a driving sim than an arcade driving game. And look, I don't really like driving games. That's my own, that's like me saying gummy ain't yummy. I understand that is not a mainstream opinion, right? I don't personally like driving games. You don't like driving.

I don't like driving, yeah, for sure. So why would I wanna simulate it? But this is a well-regarded franchise. It is, again, the best-selling of the Sony exclusive franchises, of the first-party franchises. The only argument I would make maybe against it being in the top tier is I think it has had a little bit less of a cultural imprint than some of these other franchises here. I think it's made a little bit less impact. I think it's maybe been lapped by the forces of the world to some degree. And I also think that it has declined over time.

And my understanding, I only know the second hand, is that there's been a little bit less, there's a little bit less of a positive response to like, for instance, Gran Turismo Sport, the PlayStation 4 entry or Gran Turismo Sport, the PlayStation 4 entry or Gran Turismo 7, you know it's maybe a series that's waning a little bit but that's, whatever I'm not going to put my foot down about this. We want to put one nest here, we'll put a nest here. He's like put his foot on the gas so to speak. I have a friend who full-blown bought a car rig and a VR helmet to play Gran Turismo.

Like the in your house rig. There are those enthusiasts who are super into this franchise. Maybe it belongs in S tier. Like I don't think technically you get higher than Gran Turismo, like on a technical level. Maybe in terms of like, oh, I like the open world goofiness of Forza.

I like doing jumps and stuff, like, fine. But if you're like trying to play, there was a fucking movie about a kid who played the game so much that he became a Formula One racer. Yeah, that is amazing that that actually happened. So even though that movie flopped, the game doesn't. The game is so good that you can train

for real races in it. My only knock against the game, this game in the franchise in general is that it's too hard. It's too hard to drive the cars the way I want to drive them, which is poorly and in a fun way. This game wants you to drive the car really good. No, it's not a game you can just kind of dick around in. And it's not as hardcore as like, you know, what some of these F1 games that I know are like, you have to like basically drive a car.

But it's, yeah, again, it's a lot more simmy. I would say we could put an A tier and maybe return to it. But if Heather feels strongly and we want to jam it up an S tier. I feel like Gran Turismo is an S tier franchise. And again, I don't like racing games. I don't buy racing games. Yeah, I guess let's put in the S tier.

All right. And that brings us to our next one, Ape Escape. Now look, all of these can't go in the S tier. I'm not gonna, I love Ape Escape. I'm not gonna argue for Ape Escape being in S tier. I think it is The first game is very good The PlayStation 1 game there were so some Japan exclusive games that did not make it out over here I believe in excluding Ape Escape 2001 the one where you where you vacuum off their pant the monkey's pants and wash them in a washing machine.

Great mechanic. Yes, and the ad with a cartoon Frenchman saying, pants tre bien. This is a... I don't think this is a franchise that sustained itself, and I think not all of its entry...it's kind of uneven in terms of how it progressed. And it's not like there hasn't been an Ape Escape since one for the PlayStation 2. So I think this is maybe a B tier franchise.

I defer to you guys, I've never played a single Ape Escape game except for the Ape Escape level in Astro. Which rocks. That in and of itself makes me want to knock it up a tier. But I don't think as a franchise it really is above a B. Honestly, it might be a C tier franchise. Oh, yeah, I think I think it may be as Should we put it in the C tier? Yeah, put it in C. I mean, let's not go too nuts It's good, and I do I do really really like it

um, I think it's a game that is due for a comeback and Astro Bot was a great way to To prove that I can't wait to jam Astro Bot in the S tier. I can't wait. Should we go straight to medieval? I just think about Ape Escape. It's like Ape Escape, I just feel like it fell off with its second mainline entry. Yeah.

And so that in and of itself just doesn't make me want to stick up for it too much. I do like that they're in Metal Gear Solid 3. Yeah, that's fun. That is fun. Look, the apes are awesome. I love the apes. If we were ranking the apes,

or if we were ranking the mascots, these are higher than C. They have little sirens on their heads? I mean, come on, this is great. They don't want to be found, and yet there's so many things that are impeding that. They look like Muppets, too. They got like a good Muppet design.

That is a good point. They don't really quite look like monkeys. They do in theory, but not one-to-one. No. There's a couple that I think we just have to move on to like some of the bigger ones or else we'll be here all day. Is this Medieval?

Yeah, Medieval. So I only played Medieval the first one and then they wait there there was another game That was a medieval, but didn't have the name medieval right what the fuck was that called? Gosh, I was a Maximo was or wait no Maximo was the one that's a that's a secret There's a secret ghouls and ghosts So only played Medieval 1. Oh wait, was there a Medieval 2 on PlayStation 1? Boy, I can't remember.

I got to look this up now. Anyway, it's a game that has not aged well, the original. I mean, they did a re-release and it's just kind of a janky experience. experience A fine 3d platform combat game for You know the late 90s for the early era of of 3d gaming But I don't know I don't want to put it at D tier because it's well I think it could be in the C tier only because I like the design of the guy Is a cool-looking guy was a little bug guy. Yeah, I like there was a medieval 2 for PlayStation 1

Um, I did play that when it was medieval resurrection, which was the PSP one. I didn't play I have not played medieval So I again defer to your judgment on the medieval franchise On box art alone. I would give it a D tier. I think- The guy looks great. I think the guy looks good. I think that's enough to save him from the C tier, but we could always revisit and bump him down if necessary.

It's not on the same level of ape escape, but that's what we're doing. You know, now that I'm seeing it, it's just, there's no way. I don't like being mean to it, cause it's like, there's nothing inherently wrong with this game, except that it's kind of of its time. And as a franchise, you know what, that's what it is.

As a franchise, it's two PlayStation One entries and a PSP entry, and then a remake of the PlayStation One, one that was like fine. That's a D tier franchise. All right, Jumping Flash. I have to say, I love Jumping Flash. It was a pre-Super Mario 64 platformer where they were trying to figure out

how platforming would work in 3D space. It ultimately is extremely charming and a total failure. I played so many hours of Jumping Flash on the PlayStation, so many hours, and when Jumping Flash popped up in Astro Bot, I literally just said to my screen, yes. This beloved franchise is a D tier game. Wow. I fucking love jumping flash.

I would never say to somebody, you've gotta play jumping flash. But do I still own my copy? Absolutely. It's fucking great. In the D tier it goes. I love jumping flash, D tier game. How about Wild Arms?

Woof. So. A beloved D tier franchise, I guess. I don't want to be that mean to it. But it's so good. And it had fully animated cut scenes on the PlayStation 1 with an awesome fucking soundtrack and nobody thinks about or loves Wild Arms. I don't know, I feel like there's a bit of a fandom,

wasn't there an anime or something, wasn't there Wild Arms? I think there was. But it has this kind of old west kind of setting that's kind of interesting. And I remember that being like a very serviceable JRPG kind of coming in the... Was the first one out before Final Fantasy VII? Because I remember that being one of the games

that kind of filled the gap. Or maybe the series in general is kind of filling the gaps between Final Fantasy. April 30th 1997 for Wild Arms. Yeah it was despite its release being somewhat oh you took that despite its release being somewhat overshadowed by hype for the upcoming Final Fantasy 7 Wild Arms was a critical and commercial success. Yeah that was part of the thing it was like part of like it comes out and it's kind of like oh this is something to kind of like like out and it's kind of like, oh, this is something to kind of bridge the gap to kind of keep us occupied

while we're waiting for Final Fantasy VII. And they made a number of them. I didn't play them all, but I don't know. I think I would put this above the Medievals of the world. Oh no, but if you're gonna put wild arms above medieval, then Jumping Flash should be a C. Have you played Jumping Flash, Nick?

No, I have not played the Jumping Flash. You guys haven't. I think the ubiquity of... But I did play medieval, and I'm happy with where it's situated. I think when we're ranking the franchise, we have to consider either the ubiquity or the lack of ubiquity.

There is real, yes, that's a great point. There is legacy and fandom with wild arms that I think puts it above the kind of like quirky, like PlayStation 1, you know, glorified tech demos, slash early explorations of what 3D gameplay could be that were more of the meta evils in the Jumping Flash. This was a franchise, these were fully fledged games. Yeah, I think we could put it in the C tier and feel good.

If you wanna advocate for Jumping Flash going up to C tier, then I defer to you. How about this, how about this? I looked on Twitter for the last time Jumping Flash was tweeted about. Was it yours? No, it was not. And it was only nine hours ago as of record.

So let's see when Wild Arms was last tweeted about. Twitter real quick, I think that's really funny. Wild Arms was last tweeted about 47 minutes ago. So I would argue that by those measures, there is a, like if it's been nine hours since Jumping Flash and 47 minutes since Wild Arms, Wild Arms is indeed a C tier franchise on popularity alone. Wild Arms.

You know what I like about the objectivity of that was that you looked on your phone and you could have just told us anything. I could have. You reported the facts. These are the facts. This is a journalism podcast. Everything we say is true.

That's right. Wild Arms Million Memories, what the fuck is that? Anyone heard about it? No. It was a smartphone game that came out in 2018. Oh, knock it down, knock it down. Put it back on D. A Japan-exclusive smartphone game.

Let's just move on to to wipe out There were five wild arms games. I think I think it's well situated in the seat here a wipeout Oh, these games are cool. Why that is good Look cool Play very fun. Yeah play weird, but but but very fun I mean when's the last wipeout game that came? Did they attempt like a modern Wipeout? I think they did. Wipeout Merge in 2022, which was maybe another mobile game. What was that?

Yeah, the Wipeout games are cool. Now there was a Wipeout 64, wasn't there? So how much do we want to say? I mean, I guess maybe this falls into the Crash Bandicoot rule of like, this was enough of a PlayStation thing, a PlayStation showpiece, that by the time 64 comes out, it's already established as a PlayStation franchise. The thing about that, and I want to honor that, Wipeout 64 is the third Wipeout. And this, Wipeout was released for Saturn the same year. Yeah.

This is tough. I think it's off the list. I don't think, I think it's DQ'd. I think Wipeout just wiped out. Wow. All right, maybe fitting. Wow. Cool games though. Good games.

Sorry Wipeout. Great aesthetic. You're fucked up. Excellent soundtrack. We're sorry to see you go I didn't know wipeout came out for Saturn. I did Wow No, I believe you. I'm not calling you a liar. Do you know why why is that? Because I was playing it on the far inferior And not having fun. Oh my god. This is rough. Well, then this is a big one twisted metal mmm I was like, oh my god, this is rough. Well then, this is a big one. Twisted Metal. Yeah, Twisted Metal, big franchise,

one that kind of fell off a little bit, but Twisted Metal Black was a really good entry. That was the PlayStation 2 one. And then afterwards, I think it kind of has disappeared. There is obviously the Twisted Metal TV show, which I really enjoy. I think, I don't know how to rank this one. I mean, it's like, the thing is it's like a cool idea.

Car combat is like a cool idea, and I also feel like this is so strongly associated with the Sony PlayStation brand. I think, I mean, not all the games are that good. I think Twisted Metal 1 and 2 are beloved. Yeah, it was a metal black beloved I think certainly do for a comeback as a game. I think it could be a great game It's kind of amazing with how effectively Sony has like taken like the last of us TV show and you know turn that into additional sales of the the blast of us back catalog and and and you know new ports of

you know new remasters of the of the last of us franchise that they have not done the same with twisted metal very successful I'm ready to buy yeah, I think I think twisted metal because of the sort of variety of its Entries like the the varying quality of its entries is a solid, solid C tier series. And it's a good, solid C. I would put it in the B tier. Because I think to me that's a level, it's a level above Ape Escape and Wild Arms. Like that to me I can clearly have,

there's a clear separation in my head between the prominence of those franchises. And I know we're not ranking the guys. Sweet Tooth is really good. Sweet Tooth's a clear separation in my head between the prominence of those franchises. And I know we're not ranking the guys. Yeah. Sweet Tooth is really good. Sweet Tooth's a great guy. He's really good. Okay, put it, I won't fight back.

Put it in B tier. I haven't played any of the Twisted Metals since the first two. I would like to revisit. Black was cool. I think there, you know, I wish that Twisted Metal could have the success that like Rocket League has. Yeah. I would love, I would love that.

That's the way to relaunch it, yeah, is to have it come out and be like a, you know, maybe a free to play game with a bunch of different cars you can get. Now I think we're moving on. Moving on to another big boy. We got a big, big, big player. The once was mascot of the PlayStation brand,

Crash Bandicoot. I wanna put this in the A tier on the commercials alone. Commercials are great. I shout out a past Get Played guest, Alex Berg, who of course played Crash Bandicoot in some of the spots. And hey, why would I do it? I should shout out my Doughboyz co-host, Mike Mitchell, who plays Stu in the Twisted Metal Peacock series.

That's right. Does a great job. I said, wow, I'll do it. I should shout out my Doughboy's co-host Mike Mitchell, who plays Stu in the Twisted Metal Peacock series. That's right. Does a great job. And I am gonna say that Crash Bandicoot, yeah, I think there's an A-tier franchise, right? It's kind of uneven, but it's fucking Crash Bandicoot. I wanna just argue for S-tier. I'm probably not gonna win.

The franchise post Crash Team Racing is uneven. Yeah bandicoot one crash bandicoot two past crash bandicoot warped and crash team racing are Est here like those are great great great games They were on fire with those then after every crash after that Sort of diminishing returns kind of the same stuff and then in particular when they become Not Sony's baby and they be in Activision swipes them up from from Naughty Dog They got they got worse Which is a you know what Activision does but I I think those first four games in particular are

s-tier four games in particular are S tier entries, but I can see how then the series has been watered down since those glory days. I respect your take. Me speaking for me as a platformer enthusiast, I don't think of those crash games as being on the same level as the 3D Mario's, the rare games like your

Banjo-Kazooie's the you know the Rayman Sonic Adventure like I think of those is all like like better you know more fully fledged 3d platformers than the Crash Bandicoot franchise. I would even just evaluating on those on the series at its best I still think that's like it peaks out at A tier but I think that's fair. I would even just evaluating on those, on the series at its best, I still think that's like, it peaks out at A tier, but I think A tier is where the whole franchise kind of should live. Should I mention that he does a dance? I'd look, the animation is great. The character is great.

The sense of Crash Bandicoot, like Crash as a guy, maybe an S tier guy. When he like, kinda like, he's a great guy. He's a great guy. He's a great guy. Yeah, it great guy. He's a great guy. He's a great guy. He's a great guy. He's a great guy.

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It's like so 90s. it's a 90s piece of media. Also a game that I played on September 11, 2001. Wow. Just a memory that I have. Oh no. Trying to do something normal. I'll doubt we've done it our own way. Let's look at, what's next?

How about, I mean do we want to do Ark the Lad or is that too obscure? We can move on to everybody golf. I have not played the arc the lad game I also have not played the arc the lad game alright. He seems like a good lad. I gotta say I don't know him The way he looks I this arc the lad guy he seems cool. It's you know this is I guess it's a The arc the lad timeline there's a, the Ark the Lad timeline, there's Ark the Lad, Ark the Lad 2, Ark the Lad 3 all come out, I believe, all for PlayStation 1 on,

and as exclusives. Then the franchise starts to expand, so there was a WonderSwan entry, so, and then a PS2 version, but then a PS2 game, but that was kind of the end of it Or I guess a couple of ps2 games. I Think there is a fandom for Ark the lad. I think we've got to either put this into a You know and an incomplete or na tier or we just leave it alone or we just say it's not kind of at this

Incomplete incomplete. We don't really know what's going on with Ark the lad I mean should we just move on to the next big one here then? We don't have to do everybody golf. What? Everybody golf Do you know everybody golf? I think everybody golf was a pretty big selling franchise. Was it a big one? Yeah, I even I have played everybody golf. Wow. I didn't know about this. I know I was I was a Hotshots house I don't know that. I liked Hot Shots Golf. Well no, Hot Shots Golf is everybody's golf, right? Isn't it the same fucking thing?

I don't know. I thought everybody was everybody golf. I think everybody golf got rebranded as Hot Shots Golf. Oh, it did, yes. And then they just said, you know what, we're gonna unify the brand, it's all gonna be everybody's golf. Wow, that's great.

Then you know what? then I do like these games They keep here's here's the here's the reason that this one maybe deserves a bump up They are still making these fucking games the last everybody's golf came out in 2017 and then a VR game came out in 2019. So this is a franchise that has persisted for 20 plus years since 1997. And if you look at its metacritic, it has stayed pretty stable over time, the franchise in the low 80s, a couple of them in the high 70s. But I don't know, this is a big selling franchise.

I do think of this as kind of like a PlayStation defining franchise, it's like an arcade golf game. They don't have a lot of sports exclusives. You know, I think the big sports games on PlayStation are, I mean, it's like this, and I guess if you wanna call Gran Turismo a sports game, right? And MLB the show. The big sports games on PlayStation are I mean it's like it's like this and I guess if you want to call Gran Turismo a sports game right and and MLB the show yeah

which is now multi-platform so I Can see this being in like the? Honestly like the beat here here. Yeah, I think that's a place for everybody's golf going up to beat here. I had Hotshots golf for spelled F-O-R-E, and you could unlock Ratchet and Jack. So that was huge for me. I think I played the VR version, because when you get those VR helmets, you're desperate.

You're like, anything. Anything. I'll play anything. Yeah. Gosh, I know. I saw the new Quest at Target today, and I was like I have a quest to at home It's just collecting dust. I see what's going on in there. I VR it's just not ready. We still know well. We still got to do a vision pro episode

That's true because you'll see the VR is ready. It's just cost We used to do this thing I mean, I guess we we probably will do it, but at the end of the year where we say a game we're going to play the next year in our back catalog and like two years ago, maybe three years ago, I said it was Half-Life Alex. I still haven't booted that fucking thing up. I bought it. I still haven't booted it up because I'm just like, first off, it's a little bit of an extra

step to stream a Steam game to your quest, which I have. Yes. It's like just enough of a thing where it's like, okay, I gotta do that fucking thing first. And then every time I feel like I put on my quest, I was like, oh, this thing has no charge in it. I forgot. Like this thing just drains batteries.

But then also like I play for like 15 minutes and I get a headache, I get nauseated. Yeah, I'm gonna throw up. I'm gonna play, but then Half-Life Alex, everyone's like, this everyone's like this is the singular incredible experiences one of the best games of the whole generation Many hours of I have half-life Alex I haven't finished it again because of the barrier and of entry of like, okay I gotta go plug in all my base stations. Yeah, every time I turn on my PC VR helmet something has gone wrong and I have to like

reinstall drivers or whatever. If that fucking game came out for the Apple Vision Pro, and you could just click it, I'd beat it within the week. Yeah, because they're using it, and I understand why they have it exclusive. They're trying to sell the Valve Index, but I don't know, it is one that would be cool if you could just get it from the Meta store or whatever.

It is so incredible to be inside that game and be like, this is fucking, this is the future. This is experiencing the future as a video game. But it's, yeah, it must've been like that for people who originally were playing PC games before everybody else. Like the first time you entered into Zork 1 and that computer typed a sentence and then you typed a sentence back

must have felt the way I feel when I play Half-Life Alex. I would like to be playing more VR. There's something novel about having an entire computer on your face. Yeah. It's very interesting. I use the Vision Pro like three or four times a week. Wow. I love it.

Next big one here. Well, it. Next big one here. Well, was a big one, I would say. Yeah, Siphon Filter, this one has fallen off. I mean, I think the last entry was on PSP, right? I think so. Yes, the last one was on PSP. So this is a dormant franchise. They've not had a new entry since the PS2, PSP generations.

I remember the Siphon Filters being all right. You know, the kind of fun little, you know, 3D third person shooters. I conflate them in my memory with Splinter Cell, which is a different game and a different publisher, but they are different experiences. I don't know, I feel like this is maybe a C tier. Oh man, above jumping flash.

What an ND tier then, I don't fucking care, I'm not gonna fight for siphon filter. I think it's C on recognition, right? Like I think more people, if you were to poll 100 people, family feud style, more people would know siphon filter than jumping flash. But what are we rating here? Like that's also, it's also our list.

So if we wanna say we like something, we wanna be, you know, we can be iconoclastic. We can go against the grain if we want. Do we then bump up Jumping Flash? Because I love it so much? Because Heather likes it. Yeah, I think so. It feels like reason enough.

I will say, Jumping Flash has been tweeted about Because I love it so much? Because Heather likes it. Yeah, I think so. It feels like reason enough. I will say, Jumping Flash has been tweeted about much more recently than Siphon Filter. I do think Siphon Filter is one that does not have a long tail of influence or legacy. I don't think people have a lot of nostalgia for Siphon Filters. I don't feel like if they had, if they were with Sony's next e3 presentation or whatever the fuck it is now that If the game awards this year Sony announced a new siphon filter I don't think we'd have reaction videos of people flipping out on tick-tock

No, I mean like I think people be like, okay, I don't take those siphon filters back I want to cut I want to compare and contrast in defense of Jumping flash the most recent tweets for jumping flash versus siphon filter the most recent tweet for jumping flash is jumping flash my beloved Okay, not it the most recent siphon filter tweet reads Siphon filter and so calm were my shit. Mm-hmm I think that I think that that

I think that I think that that typifies the feeling people have for a jumping flash if you play jumping flash You want to hold it you want to cuddle it you want to take care of it? Yeah, whereas like the people who played siphon filter the like fuck. Yeah, I remember that game. That's yeah, right I said Splendor scale cell and I realized I was thinking of so calm. That's the one I was I can play it with shooter I feel like siphon filter was more of an espionage type thing no it's I guess third-person shooter game series by bend Do you think I could have a separate tier list where jumping flashes is? The only thing on the list and it's s here, and there's no other games. Yeah, you could have that I think a jumping flash tech tier list. Yeah jumping flash tier list

Yeah, you could have that all right. Thank you a jumping flash tear list. Yeah jumping flash tear list S-tier jumping flash up to see along with ape escape wild arms and now siphon filter. I moved it up Just like it moves up by jumping Heather I'm about to move it back Alright look I know that you guys don't have the nostalgia for this. I loved cool borders. I loved cool borders I'll say until SSX came around because SSX I think is the definitive snowboarding video game experience for me. I thought it was really great cool borders is not unlike, you know, your 1080 snowboarding or whatever it's called and

It's I mean, it's the same, it's just the same kind of stuff. You're on top of a mountain, you go down a mountain on snowboard. I defer to you, Matt. And also I am immediately already seeing the matrix on what we were playing as kids. And it's funny. It is pretty funny. It's funny that we've always been who we are yes

Here's the thing about cool boarders oh Even of the plate that era I think people have more nostalgia For snowboard kids for the Nintendo 64. I feel like there's more like a snowboard kids like oh yeah, that was my shit and then Like a snowboard kids like oh, yeah, that was my shit and then Obviously SSX comes along and eats its lunch and and cool borders doesn't go anywhere I mean, I will let you place it where you want to place it, but I you know it's I think it's a mid-tier Select I do think this goes in the C tier which is now becoming bloated. That's the thing I think we're gonna have to move some bump some shit down to D tier I think we can be jumping flash back down to D

Siphon filter down filter can go into cares who cares about it. Yeah, and if you care about it shut up I don't fucking care But you know it kids because this is the thing about cool boarders and all games that take place on a on a board Uh-huh in this generation Okay, none of them are Tony Hawk's Pro Skater. That's just the fact. They're just not as good. Sure It's not as good and Tony Hawk's Pro Skater not in this list because it was multi-platform but If it were on this list it'd be in the fucking s-tier might be in the s-plus tier

All right, we're at the 70 minute mark. It looks like we have a lot more to go We have a lot to go we got it. We got a stroke pick up the pace look Tomber I liked Tomber Tomber's fun Tomber's fun. There are only two Tombers right? Yeah, there's only two. Yeah only two of them uh Put in C tier, and I think he can go in the sea. I'd like that It's like a fun little kind of you know caveman platformer a a 2D platformer. And he's back. And Tomba's back.

Tomba's back. They remastered Tomba. Parappa the Rapper, look. S, S. I think it's S. S. I think it's S. Kick, punch, it's all in the mind.

Parappa the Rapper, S tier. The game Parappa the Rapper, I-tier. The game Parappa the Rapper, I think is an S-tier PlayStation 1 game. Yes, there we go! Parappa the Rapper 2 is not on the same level. And Um Jamer Lamy, I think is actually better than Parappa the Rapper.

I would consider that part of the same franchise. Okay. Yeah. So it sounds to me like you said, Parappa the Rapper. I would consider that part of the same franchise. Yeah. So it sounds to me like you said Parappa the Rapper is S tier. Umjah Marlami is higher than Parappa the Rapper. Yes. But as a franchise, I don't think the sequel, Parappa the Rapper 2, was all that good. It was, in fact, pretty disappointing.

And then that was it, right? Like, have they continued the Parappa franchise at all? I mean, so we're talking about two good entries on the PlayStation 1. As a franchise, I don't know how you make a case for this being an S tier. I think this is, I think Parappa the Rapper is an awesome character.

Again, rating characters, I think Parappa is an S tier. And they were rating franchises. We're talking about a couple of very good PlayStation 1 rhythm games that are pretty slight, that are games that you can finish in an hour and change, and a PlayStation 2 game that doesn't really continue on that same level. But I like Parappa.

I'm a big Parappa guy. I imported Um Jamer Lamy. I was super into this franchise. You know what? I think it's an A tier. I think him sitting right next to Crash Bandicoot makes sense. Yeah, these are quality positions.

It's okay for him to be in the A tier. Spyro, I think it's Spyro's B tier. I think Spyro's B too, because he's just not as good as Crash. Yeah, he's like a level below Crash, and that's okay. I was happy to see Spyro in fucking Astro Bot. Yeah, I will say I love him. Yeah, I love Spyro.

I love him. He's fine. Yeah. He's just not as good as Crash. Yeah. All right, next up, Legend of Dragoon. Now, did they make more Legend of Dragoons? I don't know, but I will say

that one of the most disappointing experiences of my life was putting in Legend of Dragoon putting in Legend of Dragoon, enjoying Legend of Dragoon, and then trying to find anybody to talk to about it. We could do, I mean, like it's Legend of Dragoon was fine. It was again, another game that we're talking about the Wild Arms franchise. It was another game that was like kind of

in the same PlayStation one era of the PlayStation Final Fantasies and was kind of, had a really great production value. Like looked really awesome for the era, had some great cut scenes. But I don't think was doing anything particularly notable as a JRPG. Yeah, it didn't have a large impact crater left

in its, by its presence. And that seems impossible to me. And did they make any other games? I don't think so. It seems impossible to me that this didn't change everything with the main protagonist's name being Dart. Dart is good. A warrior who is searching for the Black Monster.

This is pretty, yeah, yeah, it's pretty good. Not Cloud looking for Sephiroth. No. No. I had never heard of. Yeah, yeah, it's pretty good not not cloud looking for Sephiroth I never heard of I don't think legend of Raccoon. Sorry. Sorry, did me a cut you off No, I just never really heard of this before by I Remember this game well, I I don't think the I don't think this one Just I just don't think we should be on the list cuz it's just one game right okay? It's off take it off the list Fuck off dart Okay, I don't I don't think that I don't think the game. I think the game was notable in its era

I don't think it's like like Heather Tethers point. I don't think this one had enough of a long tail Where it as a standalone game it deserves a place on a franchise list? Then unless there's more legendary games that I've that I have memory hold I think so Jack and Daxter is next boy. What does Jack and Daxter? I think this is an eight-year franchise. I think Jack and Daxter goes straight to a let me tell you why Jack and Daxter the precursor legacy if it was a standalone title, this is a We're talking s probably like that's great. That's good. And then you know what they decide that the series has grown up a little bit What if we make this a grant that the auto like?

Let's go jack to jack to rocks and then jack three is like what if we give him the same powers But then we also make him give like sort of like evil powers to that that rocks and then Jack X combat racing Does in fact suck, but it also is pretty good I like that quite a bit, and then there's two PSP games that I did not play And Jack X Combat Racing does in fact suck, but it also is pretty good. I like that quite a bit. And then there's two PSP games that I did not play. There's just a straight up Daxter game. There's a Daxter game.

And I think look, Daxter as a character, funny. Pretty good. I did not play any of these games because of the way the dude looked. And I am fully comfortable admitting that on a video game podcast. You don't like the character the dude looked. And I am fully comfortable admitting that on a video game podcast. You don't like the character design of Jack. I did not like the character design of Jack.

He has yellow hair. He's a little DreamWorks early 2000s. You know what I mean? He's got a weird, a weird presence. He has Dragon Ball Z hair, but pointy long ears. It's weird. He's weird and he's smooth. I like Jack, I like these games.

I'd rather play these games, even among naughty dog platformers, I'd rather play these over Crash Bandicoot. Holy shit! Right? Aren't these better games than the Crash Bandicoot games as games? I think there's an A tier.

I think the Crash Bandicoot formula is a little more... Jack and Daxter is more Super Mario Sunshine-esque versus Jack and Dax... or Crash Bandicoot being more of a linear experience, I guess is what I'm saying. Yeah, no, the... It's a 3D plane, but it still is like a... You're running down tunnels for the most part. Exactly. Okay, let's keep going.

Then after Jax, we got... Is Dark Cloud big? No. Yeah, we should talk about Dark Cloud. Yeah, it is. There are a couple of Dark Clouds. Sure. Those games were all right.

There was Dark Cloud and then there was Dark Cloud 2. I believe they were both for PlayStation 2. They were fine. D, that's a D tier. Is it D? I mean, Nick in his passionate defense of Dark Cloud said they were fine. Okay.

Well, what it was was Dark Cloud came out in, it was a very early, almost launch window PlayStation 2 game. And so there was not a lot of software there. And it was a fine 3D, kind of like adventure, kind of like a Zelda-like sort of game. And you're going through dungeons and whatnot. But it didn't really do anything special. I thought it was fine. Okay, you're arguing it down into the F tier. It's not an F tier game.

It can be in the D. Because Siphon Filter is not an F tier game either. The D tier has good games in it. Have any of us played Socom? I've played Socom 2. By this list, there's like 50 Socom games and they're across multiple PlayStation platforms. I have not played a single Socom.

I think as- We gotta bump up Dark Cloud, I'm sorry you guys remember dark cloud to I'm just looking at screenshots of dark cloud to is like I had dark cloud to had this cell shaded aesthetic That was really cool. It did have some gameplay improvements Getting awfully crowded. Maybe maybe jumping flash guy go up to be I think maybe it could go back down No, I don't So so calm So calm for me came out at a time when

Call of Duty was the other option right this point like it was the call of duty was still kind of new right? But so calm seemed different, and I was like, let me check out, because I didn't like first-person shooting games at that point. Okay. And so, Socom, if I remember, is third-person. And I was like, I'll check this out, this is pretty cool. And I played it a little bit, and I was like, I don't really understand this. this to me now as an adult it does sort of seem like the equivalent of military presence at a school kind of a tool for recruitment you know anytime something

is called so come US Navy SEALS yeah like it feels it feels a little warraganda. Like the America's Army game they came out with. Yeah. I feel like the gameplay was good enough. I think as a product, I have to put it in the FDA Being put on the list at the Pentagon You know my my my hearts with the troops of course I'm gonna make can I just say something? Okay? Let's say let's hear it I'm just gonna you're gonna recognize these as numbers that you know okay one two three four five six Seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen fourteen fourteen games in the Ratchet and Clank franchise. Yeah What you're just saying those numbers? there are a lot of they did make a lot of them. There are a lot and they're still making them.

And for, I would say by and large, they're mostly pretty good. Some of them are great. Some of them are Rift Apart S-tier type games, type experiences. Sure. Yeah. I think Gran Turismo is a little lonely up there, don't we think?

I think Ratchet, I think Ratchet could be in the S-tier. Preaching to the choir, my friend. I think R be in the s-tier. Yeah preaching to the choir my friend I think ratchet goes into s-tier. I think like also I'm just like like like if we're I'll defer if we want to bump everything but like from Crash Bandicoot down like if we want to bump everything down a notch and then and then a Ratchet and Clank is in a tier by itself like then that's one option too because but that I can But I cannot in good conscience put it on the same level as Crash Bandicoot, Parappa the Rapper,

and even Jack and Daxter, which I like, because Ratchet and Clank is still going, and Rift Apart is one of the best 3D platformers ever. And I think it's gotta be an S tier. I would go one step further and also bump Gran Turismo. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no.

I think Ratchet and Clank belongs in the S tier. I think it is, it's the surviving franchise of the PlayStation 2, Sony mascots, and for good reason, the gameplay is immaculate. Yeah, you're right. It's just great, it's just good shit. Put Ratchet up in S. It's awesome, great characters too,

great art direction consistently, great personality, and then also like, a lasting legacy. Again, and that I think speaks to something, the durability of the franchise speaks to where it belongs in this tier list. Let's take a look at this Dark Cloud 2 screenshot real quick. He's going crazy with his Dark Cloud.

Now that's Uprez, that's a PlayStation emulated PS2, and it's Uprez a little Dark Cloud 2 screenshot real quick. He's going crazy with this Dark Cloud. That's Uprez, that's a PlayStation emulated PS2, and it's Uprez a little bit. That's really cool. That's a cool character design. Yeah, he's still talking about it. Should I be talking about, should I show some shots from Jump and Flash? I think we're good. I think I get it. The thing about Ratchet and Clank that is also astounding is, you you know a lot of games try to be funny yeah and don't succeed right these games are pretty fucking funny well I do a lot but stuff they do a lot of but to up your arsenal it goes a long way it's

pretty funny that's all that's that's just extremely good shit I'm in support of it now look sly Cooper I also love the games I, have a cult following. I think they have their fans. I think they're incredible. Really cool games. The Sly Cooper developer Sucker Punch has continued to exist and has, you know, was made the infamous games, but most recently made Ghost of Tsushima. That's right. And so it's an enduring studio. And I think these games were really fun.

I think that the, you know, we were just talking about cell shading. I think the aesthetic of these games was really pleasing. I think the character design looked awesome. And I think this probably belongs next to Spyro. I think this is a B-tier franchise. These are good games. Solid B. Solid B. Rock Solid B. I haven't played enough of The Getaway to speak to it,

but I do want to say that I did allow my dad to play it in VR, because there's a small VR demo for the Getaway, and watching my dad pick up guns that weren't in the room and merc people in VR was an A-tier experience for me. I haven't played these games. I think we skipped the getaway. Killzone. Killzone.

Killzone achieved graphics on the PS3 that shouldn't have been possible. They still stand up as gorgeous fucking graphics. I liked Killzone. This is a D tier series. Boy, D tier feels harsh. See it is. I thinktier series. Boy, D-tier feels harsh. See, it is. I think this was PlayStation's,

well, PlayStation wanted this to be their halo. They wanted it so bad, and it didn't quite stick the landing. It's too bleak. Yeah, it's also just like it feels gross kind of. You're like, I'm in a where? A kill zone? Get me out of this damn place. But there are a lot of them. It feels gross kind of I'm in a where a kill zone

But there are a lot of them a dormant franchise the last entry was 2013 So, you know it has it was basically just for the ps2 and and ps3 generations I Guess there was one for ps4. It can go in the sea. Do we want to consider? It can go in the sea. Do we want to consider Eco, Shadow of the Colossus, and The Last Guardian as a franchise? Like a team eco franchise? Yeah.

Or do we rate them individually? I didn't play The Last Guardian. I have not played Eco. Eco Rocks. Shadow of the Colossus, one of the best games ever made. Fucking Rocks. Last Guardian, kinda flawed. Ponderously, but interesting.

Ponderously broken, interesting experience. I think it's summed up in Astrobot's summary of the Last Guardian icon, which was, this thing sometimes does what you want it to. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Very funny. I think Shadow of the Colossus alone puts this in, if we're evaluating this as a franchise. If it's a franchise, this is an S-tier franchise.

Because the first two games are S-tier. Yeah, and it's also like, it has an aesthetic that I feel like is so strongly associated with Sony. And yeah, just extraordinarily influential games. Also, what game has ever influenced Zelda? Like, usually that goes the opposite direction. Everybody's doing what Zelda's doing, but fucking Shadow of the Colossus influences everybody.

And I haven't seen Adam Sandler make a movie about playing one of these other games. Right, he didn't. Great point. All right. God of war what's he playing kill zone with Don Cheetle fucking God of War is an S tier franchise this is the easiest S it's the easiest S God of War is like an unstoppable joggernaut of gaming good job God God of War. Yeah. The worst game in the franchise is really good. It's like they're great.

The whole thing with the God of War games is that they were created, you know, for the PlayStation 2, David Jaffe was, this is like his baby, his franchise. It gets completely handed off to a totally different – like the same team, the same studio but like completely re-envision the design and remake it for next generation after the kind of the formula that had been established gets stale. That version is so good, it's in fact better than the original version.

Like the gameplay in those games is awesome. So I think the reinvention of itself is as its own franchise is an S tier but then we take it all as one thing. It's like yeah this is a thing that is so strongly associated with Sony and these games are for the most part all awesome. The only reason I bought a PSP was because there was a God of War edition PSP that came with both of the God of War PSP games and those are to this day the only PSP games I've played. Also a lot of that like look even the original like God of War

series was really influential in terms of quick time events and also you know Shenmue was part of this too but like quick time events which we saw in so many games for like three generations and thankfully they're largely been dispensed now, but a lot of that came from God of War being so successful. But also just like press to hold as an input, like it's like that was a lot less prominent before God of War established it as a way to open chests and open doors. I can't think of another game where you have to repeatedly press X to push your daughter away while you leave her.

And let's not forget that there are six minigames in the first three, super funny. Just failing those on purpose. I don't know how. Kratos, you're not good at this. I guess. LocoR Loco Roco Loco Roco if we're going off of vibes. It's an s-tier if we're going off of the the gameplay I think this is maybe a Another c-tier maybe a b-tier. I don't know these games are fine

I liked the representation in the astrobot astrobot that was like great That was like the perfect usage of it, and that's the perfect amount of like a Loco Roco style game Put him in a bee! Put loco in a bee! He is charming Look at his little face! Go for it loco! Go crazy loco! Go roco!

We love you loco-roco Look I mean the next big one is Uncharted I think Uncharted is not an S tier Even though there's Uncharted games are really cool I think itcharted is not an S tier. Even though those Uncharted games are really cool, I think it's just like, I think this is a thing of like, what are we actually putting in that hallowed top tier? Do you think of the Uncharted games as reaching the heights of God of War?

You know what I mean? Let me ask it a different way. If an Uncharted game came out this week, would you play it? Of course, and people would go nuts for it. My answer is different. Because if you ask me would I play it, the answer is no. The answer is, the question being would I buy it, the answer is yes, because I've bought every single one of these and I've never finished one.

But I do like them and I was trying to play Uncharted 1 pretty recently, actually. Here's the thing, if we're going to put The Last of Us in S tier, which I 100% think it should be, then Uncharted is an A tier game. I think I'm happy with Uncharted being an A. Do it. Yeah, why not?

Let's move forward. People are crashing their cars right now. Little big planet. How could they? How could they? It's fine, no, that's a reasonable place for it. Cause also like, you know, and during the pandemic, I was playing through those games and it's like,

really, really awesome set pieces, incredible production value, incredible art direction, the cover shooter gameplay is starting to show its age a little bit. Yes. And that's also so much of the game is cover shooter. It's just, you're just sitting there and you are just massacring a bunch of, you know,

fellow treasure hunters. Yeah, and if you're me, you're getting exclusively headshots somehow This next one then little big planet look I think I've not played the main little big planet games I like sack boy. I like sack boy a big adventure I think the game is called that is a really really good game if astrobot did not exist It would be maybe the platformer for the PS5. I think it's fantastic.

Sackboy's design is awesome. I love him. I didn't play Sackboy's Big Adventure. It's Big Adventure, right? Yeah. I did play the little big planet games, and you know, I think the physics is cool, but it's the kind of thing where that genre is like

Almost benefits from not having Physics if that makes sense yeah It's almost like platformers just play a little bit better with their own kind of defined physics physical reality as far as versus like putting A physics engine in there and also like so much of this is like about like Kind of building and creating and I don't know it's it's just not what I want from a game as much. I think this is, but I don't think this is quite a C tier. Wait, if we went Loco Roco in B, I kind of feel like maybe it belongs right there. I'm fine with the big planet being in a D.

I think what we're dealing with here is, this is tier inflation. Like we maybe need like an F minus tier and just need to bump everything down. Or we need an S plus tier. Cause I've just like, it feels like B is getting too bloated and C is getting too bloated.

But maybe that says a lot about a lot of these franchises and less about like how the tier is working. So this is just kind of like a lot of like middling. Yeah, there's a lot of Sony exclusives that weren't like breathtaking. And for a while that was the hardest part about a PlayStation is you had like, Nintendo had Mario and Zelda and Sega had Sonic

and like you had these huge joggernaut franchises on those systems. And then PlayStation was the system without standout games, but it had a lot of them. You know what's interesting? I think if we look at this list, and if we were gonna say we're not doing the Sony tier list, we're not evaluating against Sony franchises,

we're just saying like, where are these franchises among all franchises? I don't know if we have anything in the S tier. You know what I mean? Like comparing to games overall, it's just we're kind of grading on a curve because this is just relative to SOTY's first party output.

Yeah, I think that's fair. I think that that's a fair thing to say. And I think that that's why we are feeling tier bloat. But The Last of Us is coming up and it's an S tier game. And I do think it stands with other franchises. Yeah, I think very possibly. Infamous, Infamous, those games are cool. I mean, again, more sucker punch.

I think these are maybe B tier, as a B tier franchise. I think so too. They're extremely fun. I've never finished one, but I know that there is a fervor for they people people demand a remaster or you know ports of these because they're they're All locked on the ps3. They're all they're all just there right and and that that's the other thing I wonder if they'll I wonder if they'll make another one or if they're just gonna keep making pumping out ghosted Tsushima's I wonder if they'll I wonder if they'll make another one or if they're just gonna keep making pumping out ghost of Tsushima's

But like it it's a it's a cool design that the kind of superhero and the light dark aspect of it All that shit is cool. I don't know. I'd like to see a new entry. I think B feels right Are we skipping Demon's Souls? Well, yeah, I think this I think even though Demon's Souls itself has never gotten off Like not even the original Demon's Souls didn't get like a PC port right? I'll be just so like even though Demon Souls itself is so is Sony exclusive. I Think the Souls franchise is multi-platform enough where it doesn't make sense to rank it Which is also unfortunate for Bloodborne's sake well blood born Well Bloodborne is only on PlayStation is not on PC. It is not on PC, it is not on anything else. Yeah, and that's also the case for Demon's Souls.

So if you wanted to say, hey, we're like Team Eco, we're gonna rank Demon's Souls and Bloodborne together as a unit, but I don't think that, I think that's like a stretch. Okay. Then the next big one after Infamous is The Last of Us. We're skipping Fat Princess? Yeah, I think so. Okay.

What about Gravity Rush? Oh, Gravity Rush, yeah, could be a good one. Gravity Rush was the reason to buy the Vita. And it was a really excellent, unique gameplay system that I played a lot of hours of, I think it is a solid B. It is unfortunate that nobody had a Vita because it's a good game and it was a good franchise

that unfortunately was let go of in favor of the big boys. I checked it out pretty recently actually. I thought it was pretty cool. Yeah, it's pretty cool Yeah, I didn't have a Vita. I'd never played it, but I'll trust you on this It's excellent. It's it's great. Okay, so then now let's go to The last of us. S tier. Yeah, I think it's an S tier franchise. Certainly among Sony exclusives. I mean it's's, you know, and The Last of Us, part one, not The Last of Us, the game, The Last of Us,

not The Last of Us part one, the remaster, The Last of Us, you know, probably the best game of its generation. And The Last of Us part two, I mean, Heather has it on her best games of all time list. I like it quite a bit. I think it's, I don't like as much as the first one, but this is, you know, it's a huge franchise.

How do you remember my best games of all time list? We talked about it on the podcast. I know, but how do you remember that? I don't remember it. I couldn't list all of them, but I remember that one. I couldn't remember it. If you asked me, if you put a gun to my head and said, what were my top games?

My brains would be on the back wall. Don't threaten Nick with a good time. I Learned from the last of us part two that you don't want to inflict pain on others Leads to a horrific cycle being mean as bad mean as bad as like okay. I get it. Charlie, no! Oh! Oh! Um. Um. Um. Is Helldivers, do we consider this? Uh, I mean, nobody played Helldivers 1, everybody played Helldivers 2, but of course that's also on PC.

Helldivers 2, yeah, I don't know. Uh, it's, Helldivers 2 was a great time. But it was also multi-platform. Yeah. And if we're evaluating it on as a franchise Pretty uneven I kind of feel like helldivers 2 is helldivers 1 right like nobody's nobody's thinking about hell That was one and two is Street Fighter 1. Yes Sure, maybe that's auto 3 is kind of Grand Theft Auto and a for now

horizon Horizon has the unfortunate curse of being released every time some other really good game comes out. So I play, you know, there have been three Horizon games, right? There are two mainline ones and a VR experience. That's right. I only played the first one, and I enjoyed it,

although I bounced off of it. I didn't finish it. I finished Horizon. Yeah, did you play the second one? What's the second one? I did not play the second one, I bought it, although I bounced off of it. I didn't finish it. I finished Horizon. Yeah, did you play the second one? What's the second one? I did not play the second one, I bought it. And it came out again during the same, some other game came out that same day.

Horizon 1 came out same day as Breath of the Wild. Right, which is why. And Horizon 2 came out the same day as Elden Ring. So yeah, I bought Horizon and then only played Elden Ring. And I went backwards to play Horizon 1. And I think I didn't do it until after it made an appearance in Death Stranding. And I was like, oh, shit, what is this?

This is cool design. Horizon is one of those games that I really want to like more than I do. It's got everything I want. It's got post-apocalypse. It's got everything I want. It's got like post-apocalypse. It's got like, you know, meaty backstory. It's got good traversal. It's smooth.

It's crisp. But- I love the big dudes. Yeah, the big dudes are great. Love that. The cross-eyed, whatever they're called. Yeah, those are cool. But is it, does it, there's like, it's missing teeth.

There's something about it that doesn't bite you and hold on. There's plenty of teeth in this game. I'm looking at this B tier where Matt's kinda hovering and I'm seeing, you know, I'm looking, I'm seeing Infamous, I'm seeing Little Big Planet, and I'm seeing Sly Cooper, I'm seeing Twisted Metal, I think Horizon has found its family.

Yeah, I think so too. I think that's about where it belongs. I think it's good in B. These are all games that are good games. And you know what? I'm gonna get the Lego one. Yeah, why not? Why not? Why not?

I'm gonna get it. I'm gonna crack my ass up at those little Lego guys. They're so funny. When Stranding 2 comes out, is it a Sony franchise? Hmm. It'll probably be multi-platform, no? Yeah, I mean, well, this is the other thing. People might say the Horizon games are on, you can play on PC.

But yes, I think Sony porting its own games to PC because it's trying to establish a base there is its own thing. I don't think we can kind of. Spider-Man. Spider-Man, look, it's not fair. Spider-Man is just good. Spider-Man's an S-tier series.

These are S-tiers. Yeah, these are so bad. Which also- It's also like, this is just good. Spider-Man's an S-tier series. These are S-tiers. It's also like this is just, people buy PlayStations for these exclusives. I don't care about Spider-Man, and I beat the fucking Spider-Man game. I was propelled forward by how pleasurable it was to play. They just do exactly what you want a Spider-Man game to do.

They're perfect. They're so, so good. I didn't play Days Gone, but there's also just one game, right? Yeah. So maybe we, we, we skipped that. Ghost of Tsushima same, I look, I loved Ghost of Tsushima. Awesome game. There's a second game on the way. But I, I think it's, it's maybe an incomplete right now.

I think we maybe also skipped that. Then, okay it's maybe an incomplete right now. I think we maybe also skip that. Then okay, Astro Bot has three games. Love Ghosts of Tsushima by the way, that was one of my favorite games of that year. Astro Bot. S, S, S, S. I didn't play the VR one.

It's great. Astro's Playroom, the built in game on the PS5, the packing game is fucking awesome. And then Astro Bot, the game, is rad. It's one of the best 3D platformers ever. I, hey, I got no problems at all putting this up in S tier. I just, S tier's getting kind of- Put my son in the S tier.

It's just, so just S tier's getting a little crowded, but- No, no. Google Top Heavy. It's just fine, these, but if you look at those, if any game in this set was announced tomorrow We would be hype about it. Astrobot deserves to be with It's its brothers and sisters spider-man Joel and Ellie Kratos a colossus ratcheting clank and a car I think we I think we need I think they're there needs to be like an s-plus tier That's what I would if I was doing this on my own list

I'm not saying we have to do this now I would add an s-plus tier. That's what I would if I was doing this on my own list I'm not saying we have to do this now I would add an s-plus tier and then I would just nudge up like I would just nudge up like last of us God of War Ratchet and Crank Shadow Shadow the Colossus spider-man yeah Like a couple of those Like kind of like a but I think if s is like if there's a concrete ceiling on s and It's like these are games that are better than an a I think all those are better than an a they're great They're really good. They're fucking great really really great games

And then I think that brings us to the end of the the tier list yeah They would look it's a very very possible even I would say probable that we missed something if we did let us know In the in the Discord. Well, be nice. Well, I mean like is Journey, Flow and Flower, are those all like a franchise? Yeah, you know, this is the kind of thing. I was like, I would say no, but then again,

if we're making the argument that these eco team games are a franchise, then maybe yes, I don't fucking know. I think that this is a pretty good list. Is there anything we wanna move around? I think it's a good list. I think this is pretty good. I would move maybe jumping flashback down. I'm stunned that Katamari Damacy

isn't a franchise exclusive though. It's not, well, because I think there's, it's just been ported so many places now. Right, but initially, like a lot of these games have been ported, like, don't, isn't Katamari on the list? I mean, Katamari's not on, it's just, it's nowhere on here.

I didn't make this one, but also, you know what else isn't on here, but it's on everything else now, Final Fantasy VII. I feel like Final Fantasy VII is a PlayStation game. Yeah, there was an era where if 7, 8, 9, 10 were all PlayStation, wait, 7, 8, 9, 10 were all exclusives. 11 came out for PC and PlayStation

and then 12 was an exclusive. 13 was an exclusive until it went over to Xbox. Yes, and then is 15 exclusive? 15 is also on PC. Okay, and 16 is currently on PC and In PlayStation it's hard not to think of the Final Fantasy brand as the PlayStation Yeah, but there's no there's not on but but also one through six were not PlayStation games. Yeah You could maybe argue that Final Fantasy 7 is a PlayStation brand Because now there are so many games in the franchise what were you gonna say Nick?

Can we just look at the list one more time all right Nick's gonna try and bump them no no no I just want to give a recap since this is an audio medium the s-tier Gran Turismo Ratchet and Clank The team eco output including eco shadow the classes and last guardian The S tier, Gran Turismo, Ratchet and Clank, the Team Eco output, including Eco, Shadow of the Colossus, and Last Guardian, God of War, The Last of Us, Spiderman, and Astrobot. In the A tier, we have Crash Bandicoot, Parappa the Rapper, Jack and Daxter, and Uncharted. That feels right.

That feels really good. Yeah, it does. These both feel right. In the B tier, Twisted Metal, Everybody's Golf, Spyro the Dragon, Sly Cooper, Loco Roco, Little Big Planet, Infamous, Gravity Rush, and Horizon. Great B-tier games. In the C-tier, Ape Escape, Jumping Flash, Wild Arms, Cool Borders, Tomba, Dark Cloud, and Killzone.

In the D-tier, MediEvil, and Siphon Filter, and the F tier, Socom. What about, what was that fighting game that launched with PlayStation? Oh, the, not Tekken, it was Soul Calibur? Toshinden? Toshinden? Battle Arena Toshinden. Yeah. That would be an F tier.

Soul Calibur launched with a Dreamcast. That's right. That was awesome. The SoulBlade games predated them, but I think there were some SoulBlades on PlayStation. All right, let's do a segment. It's time for The Price is Byte, spelled B-Y-T-E. And hey, this is the Sony Exclusives Edition. The price is byte spelled B-Y-T-E.

And hey, this is the Sony exclusives edition. So I'll read the listing of a retro game and you guess the current buy it now or bid in USD without going over. This is something that's listed on eBay and Ranchi can play as well. All of these are from the above discussed list. Wow, this is awesome, Nick. All right, first up, Crash Bandicoot.

I'll read the description of the eBay listing and we'll look at an image here. Crash Bandicoot, PlayStation 1, PS1 tested, black label, orange disc, condition acceptable. So this is opened, but this is not the greatest hits, Crash Bandicoot for PlayStation 1 I'm gonna say 1799 Heather says 1799

I'm gonna say I'm gonna say $27 $27 Rochelle you gotta guess $11 $11 Matt gets it. This is 42 95 fucking go all. Matt gets it. This is $42.95. Let's fucking go. Let's go. All right.

Matt gets a point. Let's go. Next up, Pippo Saru, which is Pippo Saru 2001, which is what they called Ape Escape 2001 in Japan. This is CIB, complete in box for Sony PlayStation 2, a Japan import condition good. And the description says in quotes, last one, we are looking for a buy it now price. So Heather, you went first last time,

Matt, you go first this time, and then we'll just go, we'll go around. Okay, I'm gonna say this is $54. $54. Rochelle? $85. $85. 17.99. Heather takes it because you can buy this for $20.99. Wow, okay.

Yes, I think they print a lot of these in Japan, even though it did not make its way stateside. Sounds like there's only one left. Uh, next up, GranTurismo 5 Collector's Edition PS3 brand new factory sealed We're looking for a buy it now price. Okay So this is the collectors edition. This is the ps3 one and then this is not been open. So this is a big box Ranch is up first. Oh, yes ranch starts for this one $300 $300

Yeah, I'm gonna say it's my turn. Okay. Yeah, right $99 Heather. $99. Heather says $99. Unopened collector's edition, PS3. You see the shrink wrap in the screenshot. That's right. That looks like fake shrink wrap, by the way. It looks like it's. It might've been resealed.

Yeah, it looks like resealed shrink wrap. I don't know, it looks pretty crisp to me. I can see what you're talking about over there on the side, but the top is clean. The top is clean. I'm gonna say $400. You all overshot it. Oh.

And maybe this speaks to it maybe not being an S-tier franchise, because you can get this right now for $59.99. Oh my God. Heather has won, Matt has won, Rochelle yet to get on the board. Next up, Heather, you go first for $59.99. Oh my God. Heather has won, Matt has won, Rachelle yet to get on the board. Next up, Heather, you go first for this time. So you know, game collecting has gotten like card collecting. You can get these things graded now.

So this is God of War 2, WATA 9.4A. This is a PlayStation 2 new sealed and graded copy 299 whatta is the industry leading video game and media authentication and grading company built by collectors for collectors We grade sealed and complete in box media for most consoles and platforms your guess is 2 night $2.99 $299 okay got it. Yeah, I'm gonna guess this is One how could you have even the foresight to do something like this? Yeah, to keep it to keep it sealed yeah, and then also You know you get it graded, and it's you got it in the big plastic case now

I'm just gonna say something wild and say $700 And I would I would buy this $200 and I would I would buy this Look at the grade and then fucking crack that open and pop it in the ps2 baby. Look at that beautiful game I love it. I Heather has yeah that the very poor economic decision Heather has one or as as 299 Matt has $700 Rachelle your guess $420. $420, hell yeah. Nice.

Unfortunately, you all overshot it. I think this again was one that was, they print a lot of them. You can get this for $199.99. So no one gets a point. Guys, I'm really sorry. I have to exit the podcast. All right, Heather's leaving.

So I'm gonna give your point to Ranch. What the fuck? Bye, Heather. All right, next up. It's a shame Heather had to leave because she would have loved this one. The Last of Us, brand new sealed, graded 9.6 A++. So this is graded by CGC, which is a different company. PlayStation 3, this is brand new, there are two bids.

Do you have any information about this company? CGC? Yeah. I can look it up. No. It's good Is it ranch first? Who went first last time Heather did Heather so then it's you my high guesses haven't been helping here And I think it's because these games are just readily available To play but as a collector you're still gonna pay a premium for that grade, so I'm gonna say a hundred and fifty dollars Ranch what do you think Matt says 150?

$155 155 they made a lot of these $12 and 50 cents And I looked it up it cost $50 to get it graded so this For a grading process. Sealed. And I looked it up, it cost $50 to get it graded. So this. Embarrassing.

This individual lost money in the grading process. This is like buying one of those fucking board ape NFTs for like a million dollars. Well what it was like, it was like, you remember they had the Death of Superman comic? And that came out at a time where like comic collecting had become this thing. And so they printed so fucking many of them.

Yeah. That there's like even if you have a mint copy it has no value anymore, no resale value. I think that's just the case with some of these games. All right on that note, The Last of Us Part 2 Collector's Edition. This is Sony PlayStation 4 2020. I'll read the description. The Last of Us Part 2 Collector's Edition includes the following content.

48 page mini art book, steel book case including full game, 12-inch Ellie statue, lithograph art print and thank-you letter, replica of Ellie's bracelet, set of six enamel pins, set of five stickers. This is all included in a big honkin box. The condition is brand new. We're looking for a buy it now price. Ranch you start. $666. Ranch is picking all the cool numbers. $666.

I would imagine this is, yeah, I mean this is a more recent one, but these things sell out. I like I remember like buying, having the option to get this because this was new like I bought this with the last few years I mean, I didn't get the collector's edition, but it came out while we were doing the podcast. Yeah, I Imagine that it at retail when it came out. It's probably something like $200 maybe 200 200 300 dollars. I'm gonna say $250. Matt's so close, yet so far, $240. No one gets a point. It's tied up at one, one.

All right, we have two left. We're back with our friend Siphon Filter. 2001 PS1 Siphon Filter 3, US flag 9-11 cover, rare sealed WATA 9.8 sealed A-Mint. What do you mean, what do we mean USA American Flag 911 cover? Great question Matt from Game Rant. After the events of 911, Sony made the decision to recall their shipments of the game to retailers

before its release, forcing a delay of several months. The reason for this was that Siphon Filter 3's original artwork featured the American flag surrounded by an explosion, which for understandable reason was not the best promotional image a game could have following the devastating terrorist attack. Despite the recall, some retailers obviously still sold rare copies of the game to a small number of consumers. So this is a brand new sealed version of this recalled American flag explosion 911 panic siphon filter three. See, now that's good foresight to have.

Yeah. Be like, I know that this is not the one I'm supposed to have, I'm holding on to this. It may have been a GameStop employee or something. Oh, good idea. Who's just like, oh yeah, they want this back, I'll hold on to one of them. Yeah, I'm excited.

We're looking for a buy it now price. I guess $911 then. Matt, very fitting. And honestly very patriotic of you. Ranch, what's your guess? Matt says $911. $9.11. Matt is going to take it because if you want to get this thing sealed, it is going to cost you $ thousand six hundred seventy four dollars and fifteen cents

This is a very very rare game, and this is a you know again a brand new quality I like it's a fucking fool like that's so funny Yeah, and that's what this is here We saw that this is the new cover they came out with looks like complete shit the replacement cover is just like these Close the close-up shot of these two very low poly character models' faces. Like Buzz Lightyear looking ass. All right, we have one left. Now this was not a franchise that we covered,

but this was a game and a series that was initially exclusive to PlayStation. And again, a system seller for Sony. I'm putting this up there because this is another very rare one. This is Resident Evil Director's Cut Wada 9.8, a sealed PlayStation 1 rare. This one is also brand new. So this is a brand new, graded edition of Resident Evil Director's Cut, not the greatest hits version, which is a big thing for collecting.

Ranch you start now. We're looking for a buy it now price. $3,000. $3,000. This box art is different than any of the Resident Evil box art I think I've seen because it has the sort of fake Bruce Campbell guy on it. Yeah.

Very funny looking guy. Yeah, doing the sort of bug-eyed Ash on it. Yeah, very funny looking guy. Yeah, doing the sort of bug-eyed Ash from the Evil Dead type thing. Gosh, I'm gonna say $100. Ranch takes it. Whoa. Because if you want this one, it's gonna cost you $22,500.

Why? I think because this is a really rare thing and because it was You know, it's not the greatest hits version and sealed and integrated Wow $22,000 imagine sitting on a gold my figures. Yeah. Hey, it's a tie. How about that? That the combined deem of Heather and Ranch gets two and Matt gets two. Wow. So in a way, you're all winners. That's this week's Get Planned.

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It wasn't like she was losing the game so hard that she left. It was that she did have a hard out and we did keep her longer than we thought we would. Yeah. So to actually, we got played and Heather, we're sorry. Sorry. That was a HeadGum podcast. Hey! Hey everyone, I'm Dan Locata.

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