Get Played - Tri-Force of Trilogies
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Hey, so we're talking about our favorite video game trilogies today, and I thought just before we start recording, we should just make sure, you know, we don't have any overlap because
we have some of the same taste and we just don't want to be one of us to be, you know,
back on our heels because someone else picked what we're going to say.
Can I say like, I just didn't want to be this person on the podcast, but between the three of us,
like I really wanted to put Mother 1, 2, and 3 on my list.
Yeah.
You know, but I don't want to be, like, I want to engage with the listeners,
but I think I don't have anything else that might overlap.
What do you?
Yeah, be on the obvious ones, you know.
Matt, how about yourself?
Anything you were considering?
I mean, I'm gonna put Kingdom Hearts 1,
Kingdom Hearts 2, and Kingdom Hearts 3
as at least part of one of the parts of the Triforce.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Yeah, that's great.
Sure, that's all you.
Yeah, cool, cool.
I wasn't sure, but you know, I had to pick it.
Yeah. Yeah, you got it.
Yeah, of course, no problem.
That's like your thing. I think I'm gonna
for the second part of the triforce to
I'm gonna do Kingdom Hearts chain of memories
Kingdom Hearts
358 over two days and Kingdom Hearts birth by sleep
Okay, is that like it is that a cohesive trilogy? I mean, I guess you can you can pick I mean
It's certainly the it's three more games in the Kingdom Hearts franchise
Got it. Uh okay sure more game. I maybe will it should set down rules at the top or something so that's clear
Yeah, it might be just helpful in terms of the discussion
You know it's cuz I'm less familiar with a franchise if you just had a different okay
Then do in that case Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 Remix, Kingdom Hearts HD 2.5 Remix,
and Kingdom Hearts HD 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue as my games.
I mean, it's your list.
Yeah.
I think it just maybe gets a little confusing.
If you don't like it, I can do something else.
Especially if you...
I can do Kingdom Hearts Coded, Kingdom Hearts Mobile, and Kingdom Hearts X.
Right. X. Mobile games, yeah. I can do Kingdom Hearts coded Kingdom Hearts mobile and Kingdom Hearts X the
mobile games yeah
So you'll do a trilogy of Kingdom Hearts mobile games as your Kingdom Hearts entry
I mean if I have to give a problem with my other place. No, I don't have a problem with it. I just don't
Are these trilogies I'm confused is it isn't one of those like a was a exclusive to PC browsers
Isn't wasn't that one of them? Yeah, but it was eventually because a web game
Android and iOS
Okay, I
Mean that's yeah again. It's your list
I just thought we'd all kind of like pick from different buckets and maybe have like you know maybe you pick
Maybe we could pick three Tony Hawk games or something or I don't know okay
Yeah, I pick three Tony Hawk games or something or I don't know. OK, yeah, I'll do Tony Hawk Pro Skater one, Pro Skater two, Pro Skater three for one of them.
And then for another part of Triforce, I'll do four, five and Underground.
And then for the other one, I'll do Underground two
American Wasteland and Tony Hawk's Project Eight for the other one.
I think that's going to make I think that's just the same problem there.
Yeah. I would say maybe probably.
It sounds to me like it's my list.
Yeah, but you know, it seems to me like there's not been a lot of clarity on what a trilogy is
or how this game works, which is trilogy means three, Heather.
I don't know what's so hard about this.
Well, yeah, no, you don't have to.
I know what I know what trilogy means, but like.
So I feel like the fun of this segment is, oh, for wisdom, I choose this for power.
I choose this and for courage, I choose that.
OK, yeah, OK, I got you.
You're just dumping all the Kingdom Hearts or Tony Hawk games onto a triangle shape.
Why don't I just just say some of mine,
and maybe this will help Matt, you know,
just guide what our thinking is a little bit.
So, you know, one I was considering,
I don't know if I'm gonna pick it for sure,
but is like the Super,
or the Super Mario Brothers trilogy for NES,
Super Mario Brothers, Super Mario Brothers 2,
and Super Mario Brothers 3.
So that's like one I was considering. Great, reconsidering. for NES, Super Mario Brothers, Super Mario Brothers 2, and Super Mario Brothers 3.
So that's like one I was considering.
Great, reconsidering.
Another one I was thinking about doing
was like Mass Effect 1, Mass Effect 2, Mass Effect 3.
So, you know, three Mass Effect games,
they're kind of one story.
But one that I'm definitely though,
gonna put on my list is Kingdom Hearts Magical Puzzle Clash,
Kingdom Hearts Re-Coded Gummy Ship Studio,
and of course, Kingdom Hearts Point 2
Birth by Sleep, a fragmentary passage.
Okay, so I thought we weren't trying to overlap
with each other.
Now I feel like I don't understand the assignment.
Cause I was gonna do, we fit,
we fit when I put on five more pounds,
and we fit when I put on five more pounds and we fit when I put on five more pounds.
So overall, that's three different game experiences.
I don't know where I'm going to slot in Kingdom Hearts melody of memory yet. So I'm going
to need some time before we get started. I'm going to need like three days.
Okay. All right. We'll reconvene.
All right, we're back.
I'm still not ready, okay?
I don't know where this actually fits.
Okay, fine.
We'll take three more days.
We list a group of three of a group of three and do it three times as the Triforce of Friendship names our Triforce of Video Game Trilogies, this week on Get Played, your one-stop show for good games, bad games, and all the games
in between.
It's time to get played.
I'm your host, Heather Ann Campbell, along with my fellow host, Nick Weiger.
That's me, Nick Weiger, and I'm here with our third host, Matt Apodaca.
Hello everyone.
Hello everyone. Hello, everyone.
And welcome back to the Premiere Video Game Podcast,
where I've heard some grumblings.
Who's grumbling?
Shut up.
I'll tell you, there's people grumblings.
And they're grumblings that we aren't miserable.
But you know what?
We're not gonna let it happen.
Guess what, bitch?
I am miserable
There's there's grumblings about wow why don't they do this format? Why don't they do that format? Well, you know what the format here is we talk about games. It's right there in the intro. Yeah
I don't look at any of that stuff. You don't look at it. I don't I don't concern myself with what they're saying
What do I care? I have it. I
Just like this he gives me big
Ozzy Mendea's vibes, and it scares me
They will look up to ask me to help them and I will look down and say no see that's that's Rorschach
That's Rorschach, but it's the same
But it's probably the same might be kind of Andy is is the one who's like I did it 15 minutes ago
Yeah, yeah, I also get self-conscious about how to pronounce that Ozzy Madias. Yeah
Just like I got a I gotta put my dick in it. Yeah night owl. He's horny. He's horny. Everyone's horny
I saw that movie in it. Yeah, Night Owl, he's horny. He's horny. Everyone's horny. I saw that movie in theaters at midnight.
Yeah, he's an incel.
But I saw it at midnight with my friends
from high school and my mom.
And guess who was seated right next to my mom
during that long sex scene?
Ear boy nightmare, an absolute nightmare.
I have a story like that, which is that I've always.
The way you told that was very strange.
I'm just. Yeah.
Okay, I was gonna, I was gonna highway past it,
but you know, I'll give, I'll give.
I was creating the sense of intrigue.
I was like, oh, it could be anyway.
Who, was it Matt's friend Jeff?
Was he sitting next to your mom, to Matt's mom?
No, it was me actually, and it sucked.
Yes, it was you all along.
No, that was me actually. And it was you all along. No, that is bad. It's very uncomfortable.
When I was a kid up through now in my life. I have always really
been into vampires, right? love vampires. Think vampires are
pretty fucking cool. So when Dracula came out, you know, had
to see it.
Bram Stoker's Dracula, the Gary Oldman.
I was a child.
And so for my birthday party, my mom and all my female friends went to see Dracula.
And that movie is, I mean, there's like fucking a dog in that movie.
It's not. My mom was like, oh no,
I'm gonna get in trouble with all these parents.
These little girls are gonna go home and they'll be like,
I saw a woman have sex with a wolf.
Guess what I saw at the movies today,
Mother.
Yeah, that's like the sometimes
you see that you don't realize that the
R-rated movie you're seeing a little bit too
young is like a hard R.
It's just like oh boy
Okay, this is really really not meant for me. You know what I'm a little scarred as a result. I was not scarred
I think you turned out okay Nick
Yeah, I'm fine. I'm doing great. I'm thriving
What's going on?
Rocking and rolling I think we should give a we should give a quick shout out to our producer
Rochelle Chen her birthday was yesterday as of this record.
HBD Ranch.
Happy birthday, Ranch.
Happy birthday to Ranch.
And I'll say, and many more as well.
And many more.
Wow, thank you.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
Thank you.
What was your birthday wish?
World peace.
Oh wow.
That's pretty good. Oh boy. Yeah, sorry sorry didn't work out sorry you're
gonna have the worst birthday of your life I guess should hey speaking of
birthdays and there's a big anniversary edition coming out the braid anniversary
edition it's coming out this month and I had an idea one second hang on one
second we're all in the presence of a goat.
Did you just see what he just did?
That was amazing.
And I know it's not, it's maybe uncouth
to point out the strings,
to point out the mechanics of podcasting
while it's happening.
But goddamn, that was Santana smooth, baby.
That was good shit. That was really good.
I brought that up.
I feel like I'd find a way to crash it
or fall off of it, despite them being famously stable.
I brought up the anniversary edition of Braid
because I think it would be an interesting thing
for us to do a WePlay, YouPlay About.
It's a game that I remember
and that I played back in the day.
Heather, I believe you played it back in the day. This new anniversary edition, I remember and that I played back in the day. Heather, I
believe you played it back in the day. This new anniversary edition, I think, will have
a bunch of other content. And it's like a game that has, that gives a lot to discuss.
So I'm just going to propose schedule permitting, time permitting, and hey, maybe this is something
that makes one of us miserable, which is something that apparently our listeners are demanding.
I'm proposing a WePlay YouPlay for Braid Anniversary Edition,
which I believe is out this month.
I am okay with it.
So Braid came out when I still would,
and I guess I could speak to this during the episode,
but Braid came out when I was still like,
I should like puzzles.
Yes. It's me. I'm the problem. As opposed was still like, I should like puzzles.
It's me, I'm the problem.
As opposed to being like, it's okay not to like puzzles.
So I did finish Braid back in the day.
I don't know that I have the patience in me to rem,
the other thing is solving a puzzle once
and then 10, 15, whatever years later, trying to solve a puzzle
that you know you've solved before
and being like, what the fuck was the solution to this,
is like doubly frustrating.
But I will give it a fair shake.
I will give it a fair jump.
I think here's the thing.
Anytime I encounter that in a game,
and yeah, I'm sure there's a lot of braid I don't remember,
is if I've already played through it, I don't
give a shit about using a guide.
Because I'm like, I figured this out before.
I don't need to like, whatever.
I guess I can see how much I remember.
But if I reach a stopping point, I'm fine going to looking for a hint to progress.
Although I guess this is a game that loses a lot of its charm by looking up solutions.
I don't know.
I think it would be an interesting one to discuss,
because it is like also Jonathan Blow
is an interesting figure.
And also just something that's trying very hard
to be like the highfalutin sort of games as art sort of thing,
I think gives us some discussion points.
My only experience with Braid is when
we watched Indie Game the movie for an old DLC
Premium DLC in the old format. Oh, that's right. Yes
So I'd be interested in giving this a try
And and I think I think it'd be fun. I think I say why not that's the one
That's it's super meat boy Fez and Braid are the three games they focus on right? That's what I remember from that documentary.
Maybe I'm misremembering Braid as Fez actually.
Maybe Braid's not in it, but I feel like it is.
They're similar, they're doing similar things.
But they have pretty different aesthetics.
Yeah, Braid is the one where Soulja Boy is playing it at a certain point in the documentary.
But Braid is in there, that's right. And Soulja Boy is playing it at a certain point in the documentary. But Braid is in there, that's right.
And Soulja Boy is just kind of roasting it.
And then so much of it is, so much of the documentary
is John then Blow just being upset that like,
first off, he's just like completely going nuclear
and people adding him, which is, you know, it's its own thing.
But then it also just like, it's just always like,
people didn't understand what I was going for, you know,
like just even the people who liked it,
he's like, no, it went over their heads.
It's an interesting figure.
We'll figure that out, but that's a proposition,
that's something I'm putting on the table,
and I feel like we'd like to hash these things out
on the air, so, you know.
I think we should see if we do do it,
and I think we should.
Yeah.
We should see if we can get Soldier Boy on the show.
That'd be an interesting booking, you know of us know him no connection to it all no
He does love video games. Yeah, did have his he did have his own console. He was making it a certain point
That's right. What are they happening with that? I think it seems fine. It worked
Yeah, yeah turns out. It's harder than you expect to make your own console. That's it like that was what happened
I'd be good if the Soulja Boy console
like turned into the Steam Deck.
I was like, oh wow, okay.
We're all playing the Soulja Boy game, how about that?
Good for him.
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All right, let's uh, let's talk about some video games we're playing right now. It's time for what are you playing?
Huh. Huh. Strange. That is weird. Yeah, usually when I say what are you playing the Resident Evil merchant kind of barges in here and kind of takes control.
and kind of barges in here and kind of takes control.
Radio silence so far. Interesting. We we had to reschedule a record.
Do you think he got confused?
It could have been because Matt got sick and so we ended up.
Yeah, we ended up moving this to
we we we rescheduled it and then we ended up moving it to remote
just to be cautious.
So maybe he's still at the studio right now.
Because I would he may have gotten there yesterday and just still be hanging out.
Yeah, you know, it's interesting.
I know that Chef Kevin was at the studio today
and I haven't heard from him in a few hours.
I think maybe it's possible that the the merchant is holding court.
He just got like roped into a really long conversation
with the Resident Evil merchant and Adam Conover. Yeah
Yeah, they're just sort of swapping stories. Yeah, I could see that happening
merchants trying to sell him some
You know some product for that pompadour of his yeah
Well, I mean I just it's always it's always a pain in the ass when he shows up
So I guess that's a good thing that he's not here for this record, although...
You don't think we should continue to speculate what he's doing?
He could be taking a nap in the men's room, I don't know. I don't know what he's doing over there.
I think I could just, you know, toss it over to you, Nick. You know, what have you been playing?
Uh, yeah, I mean, I guess I'll just get into it then. I have been playing Manor Lords,
which entered Steam early access in April 26th.
Have you been playing this?
Or have you been tracking this?
No, but I'm so excited to hear about it.
So this is a game that kind of exploded on Steam.
There was a lot of hype behind it.
It is from a developer Slavic Magic,
which is actually a solo dev, Greg Stezin.
I don't know exactly how to pronounce their name.
But it is a medieval city building and tactical combat
game, RTS game, that is striving for exacting
historical accuracy.
And first off, for something from a solo dev.
And it's still in early access.
So it's got some times when a UI element will be a variable instead of text or
whatever, or, you know, so it's got some, some sort of like,
rough around the edges elements as to be expected remaining in
early access. But the overall presentation is really, really
impressive. The the art direction is great. It's got
some a lot of, you know, granular detail with like individual peasants and oxen who have all these distinct
animations moving throughout the city.
The thing is, this game is immediately overwhelming.
There are factors like soil fertility and crop rotation and there's no real tutorial
for it.
So I tried to play it on my own a little bit and I was just messing around with it and
I was just like, I'm just completely lost.
I'm trying my best, there's some tool tips or whatever, but just simple elements like,
for instance, you can completely fuck yourself because you need to build a certain structure.
I believe it's a logging camp, although there's like four wood related structures.
It's like that level of detail.
And and so I believe it's a logging camp that you need to build.
And if you don't build one and then just exhaust your starting supply of wood,
you can just not build anything.
And then your entire civilization will it will die out because you just can't
get any more wood.
So like you have to like, there are ways that you can come, you can put yourself into a
corner if you're not just sequencing things correctly.
And that stuff you either learn through failing or you just have to do what I did, which is
watch a bunch of YouTube tutorials of how to play this from people who have already got, you know, dozens of hours into it.
That said, once you sort of wrap your head around these systems to some degree, it becomes
really, really engaging.
And just, it's one of those things where like, I love this sort of city building thing, you
know, like a civilization 4X game, but also games that are a little bit more like this on a smaller,
more civic level as opposed to a global scale.
And the thing that I really like is that you are not stuck on a grid for building placement.
So you have these things that are called burgage plots, which is not a vocabulary term that
I was super familiar with or really had he ever heard
Before I started playing this game, but that's like where your
Where your citizens live where the people were the peasants in your your city live
You don't have to build those as a square or as a set plot of land
You can like create like in a weird sort of oblong sort of polygon
You can you can really, you know,
have it follow like the curve of a road.
You can have it be long and skinny or short and fat.
You can have multiple families live on one plot.
Like there's all this flexibility and extensibility
you can do in terms of how you build it.
And as such, again, you're not beholden to just like building
as like a checkerboard, like a lot of city building games,
you can have, for instance, a radial city design,
like have all your buildings kind of going around
in concentric circles, and that sort of shit is really cool.
And I think some of the people who spent some more time
in this game have some really, really awesome civic design.
So that's really fun from just ways you can experiment
with the game and make what you're building your own, which
is the fun of any sort of building game.
The economy is so, so complicated.
And I have barely wrapped my head around it.
Because again, there's so many different buildings.
You have to assign a family, which
is one of the represents some of these citizens who
live in your city, to that building. But that leads, there's also a marketplace where there are market stalls.
So for instance, if you have like a berry, like if you have a foraging hut,
which lets peasants collect berries from the woods, then you can have a separate
building, which is a Dyers, D-Y-E-R's hut or whatever it's called, and that's where
you can create dyes from berries. Then if someone is assigned Dyers, D-Y-E-Rs, a hut or whatever it's called. And that's where you can create dyes from
berries. Then if someone is assigned to that, they might have their own stall in a marketplace,
which it's like, and that's just one of many, many things. There's also like tanning for hides
and such. There's ore you can mine and stones you can gather. There's just so much, there's so many
resources and so many ways that they can be used. And. There's just so much, there's so many resources
and so many ways that they can be used.
And then that's just one element of the economy,
which also ties into this ornate system of taxation.
So there's just so much going on,
but it's kind of amazing that this one developer
had this level of, again, just precision
in terms of recreating what it actually was like not as an abstraction
I mean I'm abstracted to some degree because it's a it's a fucking video game
But like not as an abstraction but like like hey
This is actually how complicated all of this shit was in a pre-capitalist economy. So yeah, I really am enjoying it
I'm not sure how much more time I'm going to put into it in early access
I'm gonna I'm definitely a messer I say that but I'm gonna load it up again and play some more for sure And it's one of those things. I'm gonna want how much more time I'm going to put into it in early access. I'm definitely going to mess her. I say that, but I'm going to load it up again and play some more for sure.
And it's one of those things I'm going to want to load it up.
I'm just going to play it for several hours because that's how these
sorts of games work for me.
But I am really excited to see what the final game is like and if there is a
little bit more onboarding, because I think that would probably be one of those
things that would come in in the final stages of development again, because
it's just so fucking complicated.
But really, really, really cool, extremely impressive design.
And that's Manor Lords.
Heather, what are you playing?
Oh, well, I achieved
Elite rank in Fortnite this week.
Wow.
Thanks in no small part to listener Topocito.
But also I crossed that threshold in a solo match
so I wanna give myself a little bit of credit.
Yeah, I think that's fair.
Hell yeah.
A huge achievement for me.
Now there's only two more ranks left to achieve.
I'm not going to do it by the end of the season.
But now that I know this is a thing that I enjoy in Fortnite,
I think next season I'm going to or next chapter,
I'm going to start right away doing ranks.
So you're devoting right here on the podcast to like Fortnite more.
Yes. The other thing, though, is that I decided to join the discourse.
I purchased Stellar Blade.
Oh, I love it.
I've been playing Stellar Blade because it's like an action game version of
Dark Souls is what people have been like comparing it to.
It's got like similar save systems and mechanics and like,
it's not as brutally difficult so far.
But when you say action game, you mean like it's like a little bit kinetic,
a little bit more active, a little faster paced.
Yeah, it's, it's a lot less.
I'm worried about this thing.
I'm the skeleton I'm fighting, turning into a dog and biting my head off.
Like I'm not, like it's like,
and it's very clearly cobbled together
from a bunch of different ideas that the developer liked,
which is that like there's a scanning system
that maps out the world a la Death Stranding
and shows you sort of like a stripped down wireframe version
of the landscape to give you a better idea
of like what parts of the topography are interactable.
Like it'll be like, is there anything to climb here?
And you tap that thing and this little Metal Gear guy,
some Metal Gear, like Metal Gear, like that little guy
who's talking to you the entire time, his name is Adam.
And I don't know how present he is.
I've just started this game.
You know, I beat like the first two levels or whatever
a level is in these games.
But that little guy's like,
hey, you should scan the environment
and then you can find places to climb
and you climb those places.
And I like that anytime I'm rewarded
by trying to get my character off of the map,
which is my favorite thing to do in a video game is,
how quickly can I break it?
And then being rewarded with a treasure chest.
And I'm like, oh, okay, so it's this kind of game
where a place that looks like you shouldn't be able
to access it is accessible and has a reward
for getting there, even though I don't know
like what to spend the chits or the little,
it's like you receive 15.1 E class.
And I'm like, oh, all right, great.
And then of course there is the,
the reason that everybody's talking about the game is the,
just 2007 design concept of the main female character Eve.
Yeah.
She is right out of a game of Dead or Alive,
or any of the, that like, it feels like an old game
that's got fancy new graphics.
That's what it feels like.
Right.
Because she is so ridiculously
like over the top sexualized,
that it doesn't even, she doesn't even seem like a person to me she seems like
Almost like a Picasso painting of what a woman looks like if your eyes are moving too quickly like it's like
She's got legs
But her legs are like the length of like a regular person. They're not
Human dimensions on her legs.
Does that, do you understand?
Like-
I think so.
Well, like if you stood her next to me,
her legs would come up to my shoulders.
And then her-
Oh, I get it.
And then her torso would be like crushed
to the size of my head,
but her boobs would each be the size of my head.
So she's got like two. I'm sure you're telling us right,
but I am gonna Google it just to make sure.
Like what she's, she's not,
she's like an impressionist painting of sexiness.
Like it's like, oh, I saw sexiness once
and this is what it looked like
and it's legs and boobs and butt.
Right.
And of course I think the other difference
between like Dark Souls and this game
is that typically when you move the camera
in a Dark Souls game to like get better oriented
around an enemy, you aren't also given the option
to drive the camera straight into a butthole
which is like part of the,
like the design of this is like,
I never need the camera to swing
directly underneath my player character
so that I am staring up at their now 80 inch vagina.
Yeah.
Like, it's not, I don't need that,
but this camera is designed to. I don't need that, but this camera is designed to.
You don't need it, but if that camera was in a Dark Souls game, it would like lead into
like a new biome where you would fight like some eldritch horror inside your own body.
So anyway, I'm sure it makes me a bad person to take no issue with this game and just be having a good time, but I sure am.
And the music is kind of reminds me of like Final Fantasy XIII.
Like it feels like a game from 2007 to 2010. Like the music is this sort of like poppy, whispery pop music. And then the way
you know that you're in combat is the lyrics get louder. They don't get any more decipherable
to me. Like it'll be like you're playing a game and you're kind of investigating like
the landscapes. Oh, you open a chest and like Adam characters like, well, these are leftover
from the Legion forces. And I'm like, okay great
but then all of a sudden this music that's like
Like suddenly that will become like and I'm
Like oh I'm fighting something now, okay, we can't play more of it we're gonna get in trouble
But yeah
enjoying stellar blade I bounced off of
Dragon's dogma 2 for a little while. I think I'm gonna go back to it, but I'm I'm just I
Want there to be more in Dragon's dogma and so far there isn't it's just kind of like running around
Which is great for like a cup of coffee, but not, it doesn't give me a video game feeling
after a while, whereas this, yeah,
this feels very much like a video game.
It is what we remember on the Xbox 360 as video games.
Matt.
Well, I'll say, just to talk Stellar Blade for a second,
I did download the demo when
the demo was fresh and I played it a little bit and was like, oh, this seems cool.
I don't know if I'll like, I probably won't get this.
This is not, this doesn't seem like I'll be playing this, but it seems cool.
But I guess there is like a larger conversation about it that I don't think I'm equipped to
have. But it seems if you're like enjoying it, I think that's good.
I think that's that seems fine.
I don't think there is made with like any mal intent or anything like that.
But I am I did.
I did roll credits on a game that I had put down.
I was wow. I was away over the weekend.
And I was texting you guys that I was agonizing on what to bring
for the plane and like for my time my little
brief windows of time in a hotel and I knew that the PlayStation portal was out because I couldn't play that on an airplane and
I couldn't really reliably play that on hotel Wi-Fi
Because it's a it's a an incredibly stupid device. Yes. Yeah That somehow two of the three of us own
It's stupid
It's limited utility
You have to be physically next to your existing PlayStation
In order to be able to use it
Well, it's more that you need to be on Wi-Fi
That doesn't require a browser to agree to terms and conditions on
Because it does have a built-in browser that you can't use Which is which is also great?
But and we talked about this a little bit
I was like I guess the switch is the way to go because Steam Deck you're not gonna get that much battery life
Battery life you're it's gonna be kind of chugging along
For the flight wasn't a long flight, so I didn't need anything that long, but I I brought my switch
I double dipped on Bellatro got Bellatro on my switch. I was playing on Steam Deck okay, okay?
Happy to double dip on a game like that a game that is yes to me is like it's perfect like it's just like a perfect
Game, it's just a wonderful game
Love that, but I had a delay. I had a delay in the airport, about a two hour delay.
Kind of annoying.
I'm like, okay, what do I do, what do I do?
I boot up Super Mario Bros. Wonder.
Bros.
A game that I hadn't finished, Bros.
You can say Super Mario Bros.
Yeah, no, I'm in.
I'm not stylized.
I was doing it like a poetic echo.
Yes. Super Mario Bros. In Mario Mario is saying let's a fucking go
Dog and the crushing beers. That's a yes, right? That's a the bro culture Mario kind of like a more look at that
He's his little red hat is backwards. Well, it's a different kind of red hat as well. Oh, yeah his this Mario
Let's say he's you don't want him to vote how he's voting.
And you know what?
The real Mario also might be doing that.
That's true.
We don't know.
But anyway, I guess I was closer to being done with it than I had realized.
But while I was experiencing the delay at the lovely Burbank Airport,
I crushed an entire area.
Like the fifth. I think there's six areas or something.
I can't remember what they're called in there,
but I was in the fungus one, the fungus biome.
Okay.
And I-
Is that the underground one I'm trying to remember?
That one is underground,
but there is also a magma one that is underground also.
Oh, okay, okay, yeah, right, right.
But I did the fungus one just while I was waiting, just knocked that out completely.
Yeah. And I was like, I'm going to fucking finish this thing.
I'm so like the whole weekend, I just like chipped away at the rest of it.
And Nick had an interesting observation about
Mario Wonder that we texted about that you liked it and that it was good and a fun game,
but none of it really sticks with you.
Yeah, I mean, like, and I want to,
I'll adjust that a little bit just to say that like,
there are certain set pieces,
like certainly like when the perspective changes
and we're going top down or whatever,
or we're inverting the gravity,
you know, like, or when you're writing like a dragon
or whatever, there's certain times when you're getting that,
you know, the wonder flower
and it's completely deforming the stage.
Like some of those things stuck with me,
but like thinking of the game overall,
it was more of just like a breezy, fun,
throwback Mario experience
that's really aesthetically pleasing. Yes. And so well done.
The game I really like a fantastic Mario game.
I don't know where it ranks in my in my Mario rankings.
Remember, we did a Mario ranking.
We was around the time Wonder was new.
We couldn't rank it.
I'd be interested to see where it slots in there.
Is an eight year. It's probably a right.
It's pretty good.
But I there's a couple of secret areas that I didn't find or secret stages that I didn't find.
And I think I will go back to get those at some point
because it is just like a fun game to pop in and pop out of.
But I was happy to roll credits on that.
The final final Bowser area I found to be easy.
It is, yes.
I had almost no chance, even though some of the difficulty stars were higher than some of the other stages,
I didn't have any problem with the end at all.
But that's the modern Mario philosophy, I feel like, I didn't have any problem with the end at all. But that's the modern Mario philosophy, I feel like.
The main game is designed to be,
you can just finish basically at any skill level, right?
You can just kind of plow through the end,
but then they have all these secret stages
that are in fact punishingly difficult,
but it's also completely optional for main path.
I really loved it.
I'll still remember my time in that one stage
that is you have to jump with the timed blocks.
Oh yeah.
I can't remember what it was called now,
but that was, that's the stage I'll think of
when I think of this game in retrospect.
But I really loved it.
I did put, I took it out of my Switch
and I put in Super Mario RPG, a game that I bought
and have not touched since I got it.
Hoping to maybe try to start and finish that before
the Thousand Year Door comes out,
but I'm still playing Rebirth for crying out loud.
Who knows what I'm gonna do.
But that's it for me.
Hey, you're the finisher.
Good on you for going back to that game
and taking it over the finish line.
Slow numbers so far, but it's only May.
You're gonna be crushing us all by the end of the year.
I'm very much impressed with you, Matt.
Very much impressed.
Thank you, thank you.
I gotta give it up to Mario, because games are good.
Yeah. Yeah, they are.
Games are good. Rach. Yeah, they are. Games are good.
Rachelle, are you around?
Hey, Ranch, I know you binged the Knuckles show.
I wanted to see if you want to talk about that at all.
No, it wasn't the Knuckles show, it was Fallout.
Oh. Oh, nevermind.
Wow.
No, I thought it was Knuckles,
it was Fallout that you binged.
Yeah. What did you think of Fallout?
I loved it, I thought it was really fun.
I had a great time, I like to finish it in like two days. And I had I honestly
had never heard of fallout before. Oh, wow. The show. But I did end up downloading fallout
for. I think a lot of people are doing that. Yeah. And spent a really long time on the
character creation trying to make me and Mark like as
close as possible to our real selves.
And then he ended up just dying in the first five minutes.
And I spent like an hour on it.
I have to play that.
I'm seeing my confusion in the in the text thread because both the Knuckles series and
Fallout franchise were brought up in quick succession
and the ranch said, man, it's so fun.
I watched it in two days.
I thought you met Knuckles.
But I'm glad you enjoyed Fallout.
Everything I've heard about it is that it's a lot of fun.
I gotta check it out.
My wife and I also finished Fallout this week.
And she absolutely fucking loves it.
She loves it.
And I also love it.
But I would say, of the two of us,
Mary likes it more.
Which, it's got all the stuff that I like.
It's got like, you know, violence and like,
fucking bad guy and I love, that's it.
Those are the two things I need.
Violence and bad guy?
We're watching it in my household now. That's the those are the two things I mean. I was in bad guy.
We're we're watching it in my household now. We're about we watch three episodes.
And as I mentioned last week on the show,
my fiance, Isabelle, saw the billboard and saw it moving and was like,
that's really cool. I want to watch the show.
And so we put it on and she's really, really been enjoying it.
But she's when things are super violent like that, it like really like
makes her like freak out, like not like freak out, but she hates seeing stuff like that.
So like there's a thing where it's not really a spoiler, but there's like a guy.
One of the Brotherhood of Steel guys crushes a guy's head in his hand.
And it's really funny and fucking gross and nasty.
And there was a point where she was like,
I don't know if I can watch this anymore.
She was like, this fucking, that's so gross.
But the story is keeping us invested.
But if there's more violent stuff like that,
which I'm assuming there will be,
we're gonna have a tougher time.
But we're really enjoying it.
Before we move on from this segment
about like watching stuff and everything, I'm surprised that resident
Kingdom Hearts man,
Matt Apodaca, has brought it up that there was a huge rumor
drop of a live action CG Kingdom Hearts movie that is currently being ushered towards
production. Well, it's interesting that you bring this up because
before we started recording, before you got before you hopped in
the in the stream yard here, I was I did say I can't get my hopes up until I have like basically a ticket in hand for this, because I heard about a TV show that they were making.
They were supposedly making a couple of years ago.
Now I'm hearing about this movie.
How about you show me a damn something?
Show me something. And then I'll.
Me?
Yeah, you Heather.
Why don't you.
I don't have access to whatever it is.
Why don't you get this movie made
and then show it to me
and then I'll tell you if I'm excited or not.
No, I, look, I want there to be Kingdom Hearts stuff.
To me, it is not a movie.
It can't be a movie to me.
It's like, there's too much going on
for it to be a movie. It has to be a movie to me. It's like, there's too much going on
for it to be a movie.
It has to be a series, I think.
Because they gotta spend time in each new world
or whatever, however they're choosing to do it.
I'm gonna guess they won't do the Disney stuff.
It's gonna be primarily.
Whoa, that is a, Why would it be a live action
CG hybrid?
If I would be Disney plus to
Disney plus.
Yeah, that's the real thing.
It will be it will be Disney then.
But if I just think it's like it's
just too much. There's too much to do.
But I could see Disney getting their
their, you know, multiverse
beak wet, even wetter.
They're like, oh, we can get all these Disney IP in one thing, let's do it.
But I think a series would serve it better for the story.
Here's what the source is disinsider.com,
the Skyler Shuler, it's like a mailbag.
And I don't know
If this this source is someone who is reliably breaking news or if this is just a rumor mill I'll read the entire thing that has led to all these news stories
Well to get one thing out of the way Disney is developing an animated Kingdom Hearts movie
Well years back I had heard the idea was to do something on Disney Plus more recently
I've heard the goal would be a big screen adaptation
But as of now, these are just rumblings
and nothing has been green lit.
So it's pretty, you know, pretty vague.
But- They're making a movie about me too, I heard.
Yeah, I mean, there's something to it.
I wouldn't be shocked.
I mean, look, look, again, this is the thing
that we've seen with these video game adaptations.
First off, audiences love them.
Secondly, they lead to increased sales of back catalogs
on the gaming side.
So, you know, all of a sudden,
we already talked about this last week
and we're talking about on this episode
of just like how many more people are playing Fallout 4
and Fallout's all the way back to Fallout 1 and 2,
just based on the series.
And the same thing happened with The Last of Us.
So I'm sure it's,
there's just more and more incentive for studios same thing happened with The Last of Us. You know, so I'm sure it's,
there's just more and more incentive for studios
and game developers, and game publishers
to collaborate on this sort of thing.
Mostly, I fear the person I will become
if the movie is bad,
and I fear the person I will become if the movie is good.
Like, there's, I stand to lose either way. I think I'm very excited
I would be very excited to see
my favorite
Video game franchise come to the big screen of course I
Could see that going either way with Kingdom Hearts fans either
They would not they will not allow it regardless of its quality level to be good
Or they will not allow it regardless of its quality level to be bad
You know what I mean? Yeah.
Like they'll either like no matter what no matter what level it is, they'll either like
rebel against it or say it is it is a perfect masterpiece.
It'll be no matter what no matter what quality it is, it will be a Kingdom Hearts movie.
Like in terms of like yeah, the way people you know, not me, of course, I think it's
all good.
But some of the maybe the little bit of irony some people have with the franchise.
I want to I want to know what it would be like getting story notes from Tetsuo
Nomura. Like, I'd want to know, like, if if if that guy would come in and be like,
no, no, no. That's the shadow of the unbroken version
of his, like that, I wanna know if that guy has
massive cannon in his head, and it's just like
everything is clear to him, and so he'd have to,
he'd be like, no, that character's name is spelled like that
for reasons I can't get into, but you can't change it, and they have to pronounce it with a silent E.
I'll take those notes over Bob Iger's notes, probably.
Fair.
Hey, the Kingdom Hearts games, you know, there's many of them, but really, a canonical trilogy of titles.
He's doing it again. trilogy of titles. And that leads us to our topic this week, another Triforce of this week, the Triforce
of Trilogies, a three of threes.
We are going to each decide our Triforces of wisdom, power, and courage of video game
trilogies. Now, before we get into this exercise, I want to see if anyone has any rules they would
like to propose.
I-
Or guidelines.
This is not necessarily a rule or a guideline.
It's more of a thought.
Obviously, the numbers one, two, and three can factor into this exercise.
Sure.
In sequence, in order.
I don't think a trilogy in this case necessarily needs to be three, like one, two, and three.
I think if there's a lot of games from this series, it could be any three.
Well, let's say there's nine games.
Yes. And the ones people really like are two, three and four.
For some reason, those are the one you can pick those and that's allowed.
Yeah. OK. There's a there was a time when people would have said that,
for instance, about the Resident Evil series, maybe. Sure.
Or or, you know silent
Hell and that's I wasn't the best I go we say there are yeah
There are games where there's like Street Fighter's you know what a much better example
I was I was going to say something similar
Which is just if a series is longer than three entries you need a justification for why the three you picked comprise a trilogy
Like you know like which I think is akin
to what you were saying.
That's better and cleaner than how I said it,
so I think that's good.
Okay.
Who wants to go first?
I'll go first.
Wow. Wow.
Out of the gate.
Wow.
With power.
Oh, shit.
Because there's nothing more powerful
than being able to go fast. She's doing it. And there's nothing more powerful than being able to go fast.
She's doing it.
And there is nothing more powerful than a single game,
a single game challenging the ubiquitousness,
the hegemony of Nintendo.
And one small blue hedgehog almost did it.
He almost upended the righteous order.
He almost said, you know what?
The NES, the super NES, they've got nothing on me.
That's power.
Sonic 1 is one of the best debut albums
in game concepts of all time.
Sonic 2 is fucking perfect.
And Sonic 3 is an enjoyable masterpiece.
The only reason there are movies being made still
with fucking attached with like Idris Elba,
Keanu Reeves, Jim Carrey,
is because of Sonic 1, 2, and 3.
It's true.
No, you're absolutely right.
It's not Sonic Adventure.
It's not Shadow the Hedgehog.
Shadow the Hedgehog.
It's not Sonic the Werehog.
It's not Sonic 06.
It's because those first three games were so fucking powerful,
so fucking good, and so close to changing history.
Yeah.
That the echoes, the ripples, the tidal wave of their presence
is still being felt today.
Why are you giving me that face?
Matt Apodaca.
Who's giving you a face?
Oh, Matt.
Oh, I just like when you talk passionately about your blue boy.
I fucking love Sonic and and but mostly I just like those three.
Those three games, Sonic one, two and three.
Fucking I love Sonic.
And that's your pick for Triforce of Power.
Power.
Power power.
We'll start with power.
Is this a power power?
I'm the kind that doesn't flush turds. Is this a? Power! Power! I'm the kind that doesn't flush turds!
Is this a good, could this be a good painting?
You know, are y'all familiar with the painting of Blue Boy?
Yeah, of course.
Love that painting.
It's a great painting.
It's Blue Boy, but it's Sonic instead.
Sure.
Yeah, sure, why not?
Somebody do that, I think it's good.
I think put Sonic in the, like,
make him the girl with the pearl earring.
Put him in all of them.
Sure. Yeah, put Sonic in every painting.
Yeah.
What if somebody redid the night watch
with all the Sonic characters?
What an incredible waste of a life that would be
to spend your time doing like a masterpiece,
a masterwork
Dutch yes painting like stroke for stroke except replacing all those characters with
Anyway, that's my first pick for power sonic one two and three Wow. I love it
Matt you can go next okay unless you want me to go no no no this is this is interesting
There's a lot on the table.
Yep.
A surprising number, a shocking number of video game trilogies when you think about it,
because a lot of games are not often divided in, not always divided into clean trilogies, clean one, two, threes, as we were saying earlier.
It's it's it's it's more of a you see them more likely with with films, obviously.
But if you look if you look at the landscape, there are a lot of trilogies, a lot of good trilogies.
And, you know, I think there's a I feel like there's stuff that I want to take that is obvious.
But then there's other stuff that I feel like I don't get to talk about as much.
That would be more interesting to take.
Go with your heart.
Well, for power, I'm going gonna go with maybe an unconventional trilogy,
but I think we'll all agree that it's a trilogy.
Starting with Grand Theft Auto 3, Grand Theft Auto Vice City,
and Grand Theft Auto San Andreas.
Wow, what a great, that's a good, that's good.
That's good.
Those games just remind me of being 13 years old.
And they rock. They're so fucking good.
San Andreas is, I mean, I'm not saying anything new, is like, I think, one of the best video games.
It's just fucking amazing.
And the fact that they, you know, they did put out the, they put all three of them, they packaged all three of those games together
and have many times and recently ported them
to modern consoles and did a bad job.
But those games, that's Grand Theft Auto.
Grand Theft Auto V is great.
Right, that's what defines the series.
That's what set the template for what Grand Theft Auto is.
It's not the first two,
and though the games that followed it refined it, it ultimately template for what Grand Theft Auto is it's not the first two and though the games that followed it
Were refined it it's ultimately comes down to Grand Theft Auto 3 and it's two follow-ups in that console generation and like
Grand Theft Auto 3 is is just like an amazing game and then Vice City comes along you're like oh shit
It's like this. It's as good as that one, but there's more talking in it the and now yours like and it's you know
It's set in Miami in the 80s. That's like fun
Motorcycles that was a big thing motorcycles boats are there boats in three
I can't remember, but I think there are boats in Vice City and sounds right
Then just the characters of San Andreas like CJ is just like an amazing character
And it's just you know it's been memed to death.
Ah, shit, here we go again.
That's good stuff.
It is good stuff.
And I think this is an incredible pick, Appadaka.
I think this is a, it's not on my list.
It's, look, there's a lot of stuff that is on my list
that we're not gonna get to, unfortunately.
But that's my power pick, Grand Theft Auto.
I love it.
So it falls to me, my Triforce of power,
and I've thought about this a bit.
I have a few different options,
but I think what I'm ultimately going to land on,
there's a genre of games, the Metroidvania.
Wow. That is defined by the Metroid franchise beginning with the first game and perfected
with Super Metroid and the Castlevania franchise, though not beginning with the first game,
which was very much a linear platformer and that was the way the series progressed until
the PlayStation 1 and Castlevania Symphony of the Night, a totemic game was released and
again you know further iterated on perhaps perfected the formula. But there were three
games that were released for the Game Boy Advance that were all Metroidvanias in the Castlevania
series. Castlevania Circle of the Moon, Castlevania Harmony of Dispense, and Castlevania Aria of Sorrow. And these games aren't all equally good, but it is awesome
that there are three of them and that they are just further exploring this formula and, again,
just setting the guidelines for what this genre is. And I think it is a powerful pack of games
that have been collected as the Castlevania
Advanced Collection, which you can now play
on any modern platform.
So I am going to pick the Castlevania Advanced Trilogy,
three games, Circle of the Moon, Harmony of Dissonance,
Aria of Sorrow for my Triforce of Power
and the Triforce of Trilogies.
Those games got me through a time when,
I mean that like Game Boy Advance is the portable system
of that era until the PSP comes out, right?
And those games were robust portable games.
They took a long fucking time.
And when you have a limited budget,
you really need a long time to come out of a video game.
And that's not often a thing that you get in a portable game.
So to be able to be like, I'm getting Aria of Sorrow
and I know it's gonna take me a very long time to beat it.
That's a rewarding experience for a youth.
Good pick, Weiger.
Thank you.
It's also like a, you know,
it should be said that these games also just have like,
you know, awesome art and incredible music
as the franchise is famed for.
So yeah, that's my pick for the Triforce of Power.
We'll send it back to Heather, which,
no, go for whatever you want to pick.
Well, it's weird that you guys brought this up because I was going to ask a question about
it and then the question was answered by our pre-conversation about the thing.
So I'm going with wisdom and I'm not going with games one, two, and three in a trilogy,
but rather games two, three, and four in a trilogy.
Wow.
And those games are Street Fighter.
Wow.
And Street Fighter II, fucking iconic.
Yes.
Undefeatable, like a permanent fixture
in every barcade in the United States and abroad.
Street Fighter II, it's been more than 30 years since that game came out.
And I know this because I know how old Matt Appadocka is. Street Fighter 2 flawless. But
Street Fighter 3. That's my spaghetti. That's that's my that's my home classic phrase. That's my, that's my home. The classic phrase. That's my spaghetti.
That's my, that's my delicious taste.
Yeah.
Street Fighter III also, as I've argued on this very show,
I think is responsible for the existence
of the modern E tournament scene.
The E gaming, all of that shit comes down to like one moment
between Justin Wong and Daigo in
a Street Fighter 3 tournament that became viral and then people were like, holy shit,
it's so much fun to watch video games.
And Street Fighter 4, in terms of addictiveness, dominated my own ability to play video games.
If we'd had this podcast back when, the fucking game I would have talked about every week
would have been Street Fighter 4.
That would have been the Fortnite 4 that would have been Fortnite. Yeah
It's so fucking good and
It had my favorite version of Akuma that has ever existed, which is not Akuma, but Oni
Just that ugly
Like not it's a broken character really easy to like take down by a lot of other characters on that roster, but man it is fun to drag and punch somebody into the sky and then
punch them again when you're like follow them up and like fucking knock them back
down. Such a great anime move. So my wisdom Street Fighter 2, 3, and 4, not a
fan of 5, played played very little of VI,
to be honest.
And I don't even know how it exists.
Two, three, and four, great trilogy.
Wow, great pick.
Matt, it's your turn.
Okay.
Trade Force of Wisdom.
This exercise is tough because I'm already mourning the fallen soldiers, right?
Like I there are games that I want to pick that I know that I'm not going to.
But wisdom, it was an interesting is an interesting section of the Triforce.
Because not every game, I think, fits into into there.
Because not every game I think fits into into there, but in times of combat in
times of war I
think it is wise to not only
fight but also to hide
Okay
Okay
my pick for the wisdom trilogy
OK, my pick for the wisdom trilogy.
Metal Gear Solid, Metal Gear Solid 2, Sons of Liberty and Metal Gear Solid 3, Snake Eater, Snake Eater.
What a pick. Great trilogy.
A great. I mean, what can even be said about it that hasn't been said.
Those games fucking rock.
They're just so they're so good.
Yeah, they're so, so good yeah they're so so good they're
also all distinct and the first one was so seismic as you know that the kind of
the 3d stealth you know the the the the prototype for what that genre would
become to obviously ahead of its time prescient in its in its themes and its narrative.
And then three, just a perfection of the gameplay.
That's a great pick.
And I'm just looking at the ones that I have as options because I was certain it was going
to get taken at some point.
But I salute I salute the ones that were not selected.
That's it for me.
Nick, you're up.
Goodbye England's rose.
That one?
Yeah, that's good.
You know what you need?
What?
Unique New York.
Well, no, I was halfway through my sentence.
Oh, okay.
You know what you need wisdom for?
What?
What?
A big, meaty, sprawling, dense,
dialogue-driven RPG franchise.
I know where he's going,
and I'm not afraid to follow him down the road.
That's what's happening right now.
Country road, take me home to a place.
There were two I was waiting for this slot.
And people who have played the more The Witcher franchise than I have might also include The
Witcher among this, although, you know, the first couple games are completely, you know,
I haven't touched.
I've only watched videos about the the other one I'm waiting for this slot.
The other one I was considering my this slot, the other one I was considering, my runner-up, is the Mass Effect trilogy.
But, I discovered Mass Effect as part of the Legendary Edition. I'd never originally played it.
And, I didn't get around to going through Mass Effect 3.
So it feels like a bit of a cheat to claim that when I don't have the entire trilogy, you know, knowledge of all of that.
Although those games, very cohesive, following Commander Shepard narratively throughout all
of it, all the NPCs, you know, are retained and evolve throughout the different games
in the series.
And they're also just really, really awesome stories with really fun gameplay.
But I'm instead pivoting to the Baldur's Gate trilogy.
Baldur's Gate 1, 2, and 3, the first two games, isometric, infinity engine games developed
by BioWare from over 20 years ago.
But they are remarkable works.
And Baldur's Gate III updates the formula,
obviously gives it a modern presentation from Larian
and a turn-based gameplay as opposed to the real-time
with pause gameplay, a tactical gameplay
of the original couple of games,
but retains its spirit and does things
like carrying over Jahira and Minsc as NPCs from the original trilogy
to make it feel like it's a part of this larger world.
It definitely feels like not just a spiritual successor,
but an actual proper sequel to those first couple games.
And I think you can view them all as a trilogy.
And now also, considering that Larian is not making
any follow-ups to Baldur's Gate 3, I think that's a kind of a good place to close the book on the
canonical Baldur's Gate. We'll see maybe we'll be handed off to another developer
who will do an awesome job with a Baldur's Gate 4 but I think as it exists
Baldur's Gate 1, 2, and 3 games that I played back in the day and a game that
I'm still playing these days are my
trilogy I'm sorry my Triforce of Trilogies of power Triforce of power of
trilogies that's what I meant to say that's what I'm trying to say wisdom
Triforce of power of trilogies see it takes wisdom Triforce of wisdom of power. What? Triforce of wisdom of trilogies.
What the fuck is happening?
My wisdom is drained after trying to get through that.
I forgot to preface my why I picked Street Fighter for wisdom, but I think that's because
it's obvious that it's a wise choice.
Yeah, yeah.
You have chosen wisely.
We don't want what happened to Nick just now
to happen to you.
We've gotta go back.
Power of trilogies of wisdom.
Guys.
Brain is oatmeal.
That's, here's the thing, I loved it.
Yeah.
What is courage?
Good question.
That's a question we have to ask ourselves.
Yeah. So that we can answer have to ask ourselves. Yeah.
So that we can answer it with what trilogy represents courage.
Courage is high, is you know that there is something lurking in the darkness and yet
you force yourself to take steps forward, to confront the unknown. To challenge yourself.
Though you have shaking hands.
Though you have nerves shattered by fear.
And what greater fear can there be than losing all your souls?
Wow.
Dark Souls 1.
Dark Souls 2. Dark Souls 1. Wow. Dark Souls 2.
Dark Souls 3.
The only FromSoft trilogy that exists, though I would argue that Demon's Souls, Dark Souls, and Elden Ring are a trilogy. I don't know that there is a game more important
to modern game design than Dark Souls 1,
except for Demon's Souls, but Demon's Souls is like,
it's like having access to the Oasis demo tape.
Yeah.
You know, if you've heard it, you're like,
holy shit, this band's gonna be big.
But it's not until definitely maybe that you're like,
oh, this band is big.
Same way, Demon's Souls, you hear it, and you're like, Oh, this band is big. Same way, Demon's Souls, you hear it and you're like, fuck, this is incredible.
Are people playing this?
Nobody's playing it.
Then Dark Souls one rolls around and suddenly here in the year 2024, I'm using
save points in stellar blade, which respawn all the enemies.
Who, who gave us that courage from soft?
What courage do we have to exchange for it? Our own.
To walk down hallways where any regular mob
can fucking wipe us out.
Dark Souls one, two, and three.
That's courage.
Wow.
And that's America.
Matt?
Oh, it's also America?
Yeah, it's also America.
Okay, okay, I didn't realize. Matt?'s America. Matt. Oh, it's also America. Yeah, it's also America.
OK, I didn't realize.
OK, I followed.
Yeah, that makes sense.
I wanted to make sure I heard it.
What is courage?
You know, when you really stop and think about it, what is courage?
What is it?
Is it going through
a platforming puzzle one time
making a mistake and dying
and having to start the main menu again? No, no, no, it's not. Perhaps it's going through a platforming puzzle one time, making a mistake, and dying and having to start at the main menu again?
No, no, no, no, it's not.
Perhaps it's going through a platforming puzzle, making a mistake, and reversing your mistake by rewinding time.
Wow.
Oh.
Should have seen this one coming from you.
And learning from your mistake.
It takes courage to learn.
It takes courage to fail, and courage to learn from your mistakes. I agree. It takes courage to learn. It takes courage to fail and courage to learn from
your mistakes. I agree. True. My final pick of the Triforce for the courage part of the
Triforce. Prince of Persia, the Sands of Time, Prince of Persia, Warrior Within, and Prince
of Persia, the Two Thrones. Three games that I absolutely loved.
Memories of them being fantastic.
Haven't revisited them in a long time.
Would like to, to see if they hold up.
But those games to me, the prince is such a good, courageous character.
And I would be hard pressed to think of a character that is as courageous as him, as he.
It also takes courage to opportunistically pivot to like a new metal slash Zack Snyder aesthetic for the second entry.
And then for the third one, be like, we should not have done that.
And go back to the storybook look of the original.
We'll go back to that and we'll get the voice actor from the first one
Again, and it was not mention this sorry. We're sorry. He's not emo anymore
That takes courage to it to admit your mistake and to to go in a different direction
I remember playing the first the second game Prince of Persia warrior within for some reason
I was on a family vacation brought my PlayStation 2
We stopped at a Target and I had a Target gift card. I bought Prince of Persia warrior with an on vacation
Played it and the second I knew it was different was at in the beginning
There's this fight with this lady and she likes slashes his face with us with her knife or something and he goes you bitch
You bitch. And I was like, whoa, this is crazy.
Great games.
I love them.
And I miss the prince.
And I hope he comes back in some way soon.
I hope so, too.
What a truly stupid, stupid era of gaming
when everyone just took the wrong lessons
from the success of God of War.
And we're like, you know what?
Our game will sell better if it's just like bloody
and has cussing in it.
Yeah, yeah.
But then Jack and Daxter did a similar pivot.
They did, they also, they had like the dark Jack
and Daxter era.
But then it was just Jack.
Jack, yeah.
Yeah, they got rid of Daxter for that.
He's in the games, but they shot Parker the titles.
But then they also were like, let's make these more like Grand Theft Auto kind of.
Right, that's the other thing.
Which did work for them.
I thought those games were really good.
Also on my list but didn't make the cut unfortunately.
Nick, you're up.
So it falls to me to ask the question, what is courage?
Some might say courage is in fact wisdom.
Others might say Triforce is in fact power.
Okay, what the hell?
What I am here to say.
That what makes a good trilogy, a courageous trilogy,
can be a number of factors.
It can be some of my runners up,
which are platform games that are challenging,
or like Donkey Kong Country,
or a game where you are isolated and alone
and have to explore all on your lonesome,
like the Metroid Prime trilogy, or even one where you have to battle all on your lonesome, like the Metroid Prime trilogy,
or even one where you have to battle Lucifer himself,
the Diablo trilogy, although I've disqualified that
because Diablo four very much is part of the whole.
So I don't think I can pick that.
What I am going to pick comes
with a different sort of courage.
The courage to believe, the courage that a long anticipated sequel will in fact someday
actually be made.
Two of the greatest games of all time, the most influential games of all time.
Fans have been anticipating a follow-up for decades and I am choosing to believe that Valve will stop just reaping profits from Counter-Strike,
from the Steam store, from the Steam Deck, and will in fact commit some development resources
towards making the final entry of the Half-Life trilogy.
My Triforce of Courage is Half-Life 1, Half-Life 2, and I'm choosing to believe that Half-Life
3 will in fact be released someday maybe 25 years from now
But someday it will come out this
Half-Life trilogy is my Triforce of Courage
Nick asked if there anybody had any rules or anything didn't say anything that could even hint at this
I also didn't assume that one of the rules we should specify is that there need to be three games.
Okay, yeah, you're right.
Well, look, I could have said Half-Life 1,
Half-Life 2, and Half-Life Alex,
or Half-Life 2, Episode 1, 2, and 3,
or something like that,
but I don't think that's courageous.
I think it's courageous to pick a game
that may never come out, but I think will come out.
Half-Life 1, 2, and 3, the Half-Life trilogy,
is my triforce of courage.
How many, like, non-Half-Life?
I'll accept it.
Look, what can we do?
Are we gonna not say he can't do it?
I can have an alt.
Do you want me to pivot to an alt?
No, no, no.
I mean, he's gonna say Pac-Man,
and we'll be like, that's one game.
Yeah.
How many Half-Life games are there past two
that aren't technically Half-Life 3, right?
There's Half-Life Episode 1 and 2 and Alex, is that it?
The Steam Deck game that was set in that world, kind of.
I don't know if that counts.
Yeah, I mean, some of those were like, I guess it's like,
oh yeah, I forgot about Lost Coast
There's also the there was a Half-Life 1 expansion that I think was made by gearbox. Oh, yeah, I'm not sure how
Canonical that one is considered
Yeah, Lost Coast episode 1 episode 2 and Half-Life Alex
but yeah episode 3 didn't come out and
I mean you could say maybe the Portal games
are also in that universe,
but they're not canonical Half-Life games.
Hey, you know, I also could have said Portal one,
two, and three, anticipating a Portal three someday.
Okay, well, the more that you do it to some other games,
you can't do that.
It would be cool.
Hey, I'll take more Portal.
You kidding me?
Yeah.
All right, let's recap our Triforce of Trilogies.
I'll go first.
Triforce of Power, Castlevania Advanced Trilogy,
Triforce of Wisdom, Baldur's Gate Trilogy,
Triforce of Courage,
my belief that someday there will be a Half-Life Trilogy.
Heather, how about yourself?
Sonic 1, 2, and 3 is the Triforce of Power.
Street Fighter 2, 3, and 4, the Triforce of Wisdom.
And Dark Souls 1, 2, and 3 is Courage.
Matt.
Wow.
Triforce of Power, Grand Theft Auto 3,
Grand Theft Auto Vice City, and Grand Theft Auto San Andreas.
Wisdom, Metal Gear Solid, Metal gear metal gear solid two sons of Liberty and
Metal Gear Solid 3 snake eater and then finally courage Prince of Persia the sands of time Prince of Persia the warrior within and
Prince of Persia the two Thrones. I also have the
Ones with the most titles, I think I like I didn't I didn't go through all the subtitles for everything. Okay. Yeah. Yeah
I think I like I didn't I didn't go through all the subtitles for everything. Okay. Yeah, yeah
No, I didn't say Street Fighter 3 third strike Oh, yeah, there is a trilogy of Street Fighters threes which is kind of Street Fighter 3
Street Fighter 3 second impact and Street Fighter 3 third strike would have been a funny trilogy too. Yeah, that's funny
Games are complicated. They are there's so many of them. There's so many of them.
Do you remember, I was, Matt, picking the Metal Gear Solid trilogy had me, do you remember
this Heather, when someone on NeoGAF, this was like 15 years ago, just made a fake press
release that Konami was developing, a game, Metal Gear Solid colon triology that was a collection of like all the you know of
You know the Metal Gear Solid 1 2 & 3 like remastered and then IGN just picked it up as a news story
But just I remember the the subtitle
Triology, I guess just sounded so perfectly plausibly stupid that that's like the kind of thing that you know
Kojima would would would would run with instead of trilogy I don't remember
it but I just reminded of that yeah yeah
all right that was our Triforce of trilogies hey it's time for a segment now. What are you praying? Oh, God. Oh, my God. Oh, Jesus Christ.
You're one. You're so late.
You are insanely late.
You're like an hour and a half.
Scared Rochelle because you're supposed to be here before we start recording.
Yeah. Ranch put in the chat.
That scared me.
It was just her birthday.
Say sorry to Ranch.
I don't mean to be, I'm sorry.
I don't mean to be upsetting anybody, but I do have one question for you, Ranch.
Yeah.
What are you playing?
We already did, we did this already.
Okay, we already covered this.
What do you mean?
In fact, Ranch already, Ranch in fact did do the segment, which she doesn't always do,
and talked about the Fallout series.
Wow, I missed it.
Yeah, you were just, you're insanely late.
All right.
Like you were supposed to be here
before we started recording even,
and now we've been recording for well over an hour.
What day is it?
What day is it?
Like what day of the week?
Is it Monday canonically or is it Wednesday?
Well, we're recording this on a Wednesday.
We can say that much.
We're recording this on the Wednesday.
This episode will be out on the subsequent Monday.
Is it always Wednesday when we record?
That's not anybody's business.
Not always.
It changes things up and again,
the schedule shuffled a little bit
because Matt was under the weather and we went remote.
Well, I've been to three buildings.
You're blaming me a lot for this.
No one's blaming you.
I'm just saying the circumstances that exist.
I don't need to make excuses to the fucking Resident Evil
merchant.
I've been to three buildings looking for you guys.
Three buildings?
Yeah.
OK.
There's like a building where you guys used to record.
Wow, a lot of security there.
Yeah, that's kind of like visiting the Death Star. Yeah, tried to of security there. Yeah, that's yeah, that's kind of like visiting the Death Star.
Yeah, tried to get in there.
They I had a came to fisticuffs with a security guard on the bottom floor.
Oh, and I was like, all right, right, right.
They moved. So I went to that place on Sunset across from where I sleep.
And yes, and and you guys weren't there.
And yeah, we're remote. where I sleep and you guys weren't there.
And then I drove to Santa Monica and I was yelling
up and down the streets for Nick.
Right.
Nobody replied.
Yeah, I don't live there anymore.
I'm not gonna dox myself anymore specifically
because I don't want you to try to find me where I now live.
So now you can see that I'm at a...
Not a single Nick in Santa Monica.
Not a single one.
What?
There's probably some Nicks out there.
I'm sure there are.
They didn't want to say...
Yeah.
They didn't want to say anything.
They didn't want to engage with the shrouded yelling person.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's fair.
The seven four...
Yeah.
Now you can see that I'm at a Starbucks,
and this lady, this kind lady,
has allowed me to zoom into your call
Yes, which is why it took me a while. She looks petrified. So I mean allowed maybe
You know, she may be fearing for her life. I don't I've told her that I would not harm her and
Uh-huh, and then didn't like I said it, huh? Why?
Telling someone you will not harm them seems kind of like a threat.
Like so like it was on the table, you know, I would like I would assume like,
hey, you're not going to harm me just because I'm just living my life in a Starbucks.
All right. Well, yeah, since you guys have already done the segment,
I guess my work here is done.
I just wanted to make sure I got I, you know, it's contractual
that I got to show up in order to get paid.
So I don't know. Yeah, we got to pay you now.
Hey, I actually, Resident Evil Merchant, we never ask you this.
What are you playing? What?
Nick. Why don't I want to know?
That's sweet.
But you're here. I'm playing.
So this is a bar in Los Angeles called the Cat and Fiddle.
I've been playing darts there.
Okay.
Sure.
I like that place.
Yeah, it's pretty good.
I like the original location better.
I like the original more.
It's kind of a bummer.
It had to move.
The food is good at the new location.
Yeah.
Beans.
Then beans.
Yeah. Cat and fiddle. Beans beans that's what you get off the menu
beside a bean you just order beans i want to bring up the cat and fiddle menu because i don't
remember this specifically maybe it's on there i feel like i got like a steak sandwich there or
something i think i definitely don't like fish and chips all right so hold on i'm playing that
are you looking at the menu of course yeah you know they got like a veggie sausage roll
Kitty salad sticky toffee pudding. It's kind of like you know it's kind of like upscale gastropub food
They get some savory pies some sandwiches
A little bit English in it
I was doing an accent just kind of like a...
What?
Sometimes... people from different places sound different, but that's the only one I'll do.
I have no experience of that.
So yeah, blend darts at Cat and Fiddle.
Are you not English?
The only thing I can figure is that they have a cat and fiddle breakfast which comes with eggs, beans, something or bacon
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that one
So you just got a side of beans off of the breakfast platter
Yeah, yes
What is the clarification? Did you think I was lying?
No, that's reasonable
No, I just was like not sure if they actually had beans
But yes, it is an English sort of pub concept
So naturally they would have a proper English breakfast good beans on the side tomato sauce excellent. Yeah, they look good. They're delicious
So yeah darts
We want to do is load up on baked beans before playing around at darts. That's that's just a fun night out
Yeah, I love I at darts. That's just a fun night out. Darts and farts.
Yeah, I love darts and I've recently rescued a dog.
Oh, that's very sweet.
Who said who, am I right?
Yeah.
Am you? Yes.
I don't know.
You don't know?
Yeah, but who?
Never mind, we can't-
I'm following that you took that at face value.
We can't follow up.
We can't follow this up.
Every single thing you say
with a question version of what you just said.
Well.
Well.
Well.
Cause we.
Hey, the thing that you said that didn't make sense,
can you make it make sense?
Yeah, we can't do this for everything.
We can't keep doing that.
Cause then we got Nick looking up beans
I'm telling you I'm hiding this cat and fiddle breakfast. It looks good. Oh, it's fantastic
Especially the beans part You can ask do you know they'll that leg at a restaurant you could ask for almost any any cook of your egg
Yeah, I think that's part of the fun of ordering eggs. You know I usually default to
Yeah, fried or scrambled, but I don't over easy guy
Yeah, like I like I go like an over medium these days. I like over easy
I like a wet egg all the way through wet
Okay, so
darts dog right I was telling you I had rescued a dog
And I'm playing a little game of fetch with that little guy
Those are the two games I'm playing. Darts and fetch.
Wow, you're kind of just living life and that's that's really the ultimate game.
I turned over a new leaf like two years ago, remember?
Yeah, that's true. Good for you. Good for you. I'm glad to hear that. I'll try to be on time next week
Okay, it's Glad to hear that. I try to be on time next week. Okay. It's good Yeah, don't let this happen again. Don't change where you're doing whatever on a day in a place
Nick's gonna throw me under the bus. So I'll just go ahead and say it. I'm sick. We updated
We updated the Google Calendar. The what? Is all I'm gonna say is if this is the thing. No. You just gotta get it
I know you look there's like a Google Doc that you look at that Matt writes you messages in
Maybe we could have put something in there.
But I just, if you can't get with a modern calendar
that like everyone has this on their phones these days.
Okay.
So just please try to set that up.
Can I expense a phone to the business account?
You can use the money we pay you to buy your own phone.
Oh, what am I buying?
You didn't know you could spend your money on whatever you want
Aren't you a merchant do you understand the basics of the economy?
This is this I'm gonna go to the Apple Store you guys
This is great
What am I buying? All right?
When I get an iPhone, this is all right. I'm going to get an iPhone.
This is...
All right, I'll see you guys next week and I promise I'll be on time.
Maybe need a clarification on the calendar and how to set that up.
We'll get that going.
Matt, I'll put some copy paste, some instructions in that Google doc for you.
But it's great to see a resident evil merchant.
Take care of that dog and make sure it's well fed.
And yeah, have fun out there.
Yeah, and God bless you.
God bless you.
God bless you guys.
Oh, means a lot coming from you.
Okay, you can have this back.
You can take, no, just log out of the Zoom.
I don't, no, just log out of it.
What, is that coffee?
It's late to be.
That woman was trembling.
Was my English accent so bad that the merchant
didn't recognize it as English?
Like, cause isn't he English?
I don't think you can like ascribe any particular
national identity to the Resident Evil merchant.
That he kind of exists outside of time and place.
Some of the words are like an Australian accent that he says. I see.
Like it's kind of all over the map. Well yeah anyway I have a well that was fun.
I haven't yeah it was fun. It was. It's nice. Nice to evacuate him from his segment. We give him grief, but he's like a fun guy that we know.
It's fun when he's here. I missed him when he wasn't here earlier.
It's one of these things you take for granted. We know a lot of interesting people.
He's a cool guy. I think we should give him his flowers every now and then. He's really great.
I have a new segment that doesn't have a title at the moment, but why don't I give you the basic premise of the segment.
Okay. I have some video games.
As we know that sometimes they have three of them in a series, but sometimes there are
many.
In this segment, I'm going to challenge both of you.
I'm going to name a video game series, tell you how many titles there are in a series.
You're going to tell me how many titles you think
you can name and then give me the names of the games.
So is this like a, if I'm like, is this one of those barter sort of things where I'm like,
I could name three and then there's like, I could name four and then like, I could name
five and then Heather can be like, name five.
You know, is that how it's going to kind of work?
Yeah, baby.
Like we're one up in each other.
Exactly.
Got it. Got it. This seems challenging, but we'll figure it out. I think it's gonna kind of work? Yeah, baby. Like where we keep one-upping each other? That's exactly it. Okay, got it. Got it.
This seems challenging, but we'll figure it out.
Yeah, I think it's gonna be fun.
I don't have, I have, there are three games, okay?
Okay, got it.
Three franchises.
Three franchises, so.
Got it.
Let's start with the first one.
This one has been-
Wait, what's the name of the segment?
It doesn't have a name yet.
Hmm, all right, we'll maybe think of a name.
We'll think of something.
But the vibe is established
and the rules are set. Do we all understand? I got a name for the segment. Nick's got it.
What do we got? How many? I mean, here's the thing. That is better than nothing. I came
in with nothing. You just came up with how many that's pretty good. Yeah. Yeah, how many?
How many how many?
How many?
So this is a segment called how many and this is how this works. I
Have some video game franchises here in front of me
And I'm gonna tell you how many titles there are in the franchise
And you guys are gonna barter back and forth between telling me how many that you can name and
Challenge each other to then name however many they say does that make sense sure?
Here we go this first
the first franchise
Castlevania there are 23 titles in the mainline Castlevania franchise
How many do you think you can name?
They said they're 22 23 23 I'll start I'll start the bidding at 12 12 Nick says he can do 12
I can name two okay well then I think Heather you should challenge Nick to name 12.
Oh, I challenge you to name to name 12.
Oh, it's okay.
You should like if you can name 13, you could say I can name 13.
I can name 13.
I saw the inverse of this game show that was on Game Show Network back in the day called
Name That Tune.
And it was like I can name a song in two notes.
Oh, I can name it in one and then they'd
be like go ahead and it would just be like boop. The person would be like I don't know what song that is.
All right so yeah I call Nick at 12. I call him. Okay Castlevania, Castlevania 2, Simon's Quest, Castlevania 3, Super Castlevania 4, Castlevania
Rondo of Blood, Castlevania Symphony of the Night, Castlevania, the three I mentioned,
Circle of the Moon, Aria of Sorrow, Harmony of Dissonance, what are we at?
We're at nine.
Fuck, okay, three more.
Castlevania X, is that one of them or is that Castlevania X Rondo of Blood? Is it the same title?
There's maybe a famous vampire's name in there as well.
Oh, yeah.
Ah, fuck.
Like the most famous vampire?
Yeah, it's not.
But Castlevania III, Dracula's Curse was Castlevania 3 with Dracula's curse was Castlevania 3 right?
It's Castlevania X. Is it just X O X Dracula? Is that all?
Dracula X. I'll give it to you.
Dracula X. Yeah, sorry.
10.
10. Two more. What are the modern Castlevania's that I'm not thinking of? Why did my brain oh Castlevania it's the DS one is like something like a divinity of
shadows or darkness of shadows something like that but it's not that it's maybe it's certainly
blank of blank dissonance of it's in that DS first word dissonance a synonym for morning. Hmm.
Oh, dirge. Not dirge.
I can't remember this.
I know something.
It's a new.
Death.
No, maybe it's the type of soap as well.
Dial.
I'm giving you bad clues.
Is it dial?
Is it dial? Oh, but it could. The thing is, it could be a dial of soap. Is it dial? Is it dial? No, but it could be. The thing is it could be dial.
Castlevania dial of soap? Is it dial of soap? It's dial of soap.
No, it's um, we got you at ten. Help me. Okay, so what platforms am I missing?
Are there any on the... There's a couple for the PlayStation 2, there's one for the WiiWare.
There's several for the DS. You got all the Gameboy Advance ones
There's a couple of DS ones I missed. Are any of these compilations or collections?
No, they're not no, and I didn't do the ones that Ryo Kojima did
Those are different. That's a different thing to me. Hmm
Yeah, the fucking the the PS2 ones are tripping me up
Um yeah, the fucking the the ps2 ones are tripping me up
And then are there any Sega Genesis that you missed do oh
What's the Genesis one? I meant I said rondo of blood right it's the
Blood is a part of it. I can't remember what the subtitle is it's like blood in regards to families perhaps
It's like blood in regards to families, perhaps. Oh, Castlevania bloodlines.
Okay, 11.
Yeah, okay.
And then if I could get the fucking DS one, I'd be golden.
The PS2 ones-
There are three DS ones.
What are the other DS ones I'm forgetting?
Were they also Metroidvanias?
Dicks of suckage.
It's probably Dicks of suckage.
They don't follow the same DS subtitle unfortunately.
Right. But are they like, do you know the style of game?
I believe they are.
Okay.
I'm blanking on them. I guess I tap out at 11.
At 11. You're looking for Castlevania, Dawn of Sorrow was the one.
Dawn of Sorrow!
Oh, that's what the I wasn't a D
The D wasn't the morning the S was the morning dawn of sorrow you're thinking of morning
As in the the feeling I was to yes. Yeah time of day mo you are I yeah
Yeah, okay, and I NG okay, but that was fun. I liked hearing you do that
What are they what are the other ones?
I miss what it was a ps2 or Heather. Do you know any of missed no?
We have no any of them the ones for the the Gameboy of course we have
Did you say I don't remember if you said Belmont's revenge you might have oh no yeah
Well, I said Simon's quest but not Belmont's
Revenge Castlevania the adventure for Game Boy Castlevania
to Belmont's revenge.
There's Castlevania Chronicles for the the sharp X six eight zero zero zero
and the PlayStation later released for the PlayStation.
You did Rondo of Blood, Bloodlines, Dracula X, Symphony of the Night.
There was Legends, Castlevania Legends for the Game Boy
and simply Castlevania for Nintendo 64,
which was colloquially called Castlevania 64.
Then there's also Legacy of Darkness
for the N64 for the PlayStation 2, Lament of Innocence.
I should have gotten Castlevania 64. That's the one that was a gimm innocence. I should have gotten Castlevania 64
That's the one that was a gimme that I should have remembered
I feel like some of these like Castlevania technically say it but you were thinking of the NES one
Yeah, no, I if I didn't say Castlevania
64 but like like Castlevania the adventure rebirth. I have no memory of this was like this was a WiiWare game
I guess yeah adventure rebirth for the for the we wear then there's
Lament of innocence I said for ps2
Curse of darkness curse of darkness to okay portrait of ruin for DS in order of ecclesia for DS
Wow, let's get Castlevania back out there. I'd be interested in a new Castlevania. Why not?
Yeah, I mean Konami just they're gonna Konami or rudderless ship. Let's go on to
the next the next series. I started too high though I started the bidding too
high I should have started earlier. That's kind of the fun of the exercise you know.
Heather gets a point there. I got a point? That seems unfair but okay. That's how it
works right? That's how these things work? Yeah. Yeah, it's like you like you challenge me
If I get if I get it, then I get the point, but if I don't get it, then you get the point. Okay
So Heather's I think that's how it works. That's how it works
There are 22 titles in the Donkey Kong series. Oh fuck
How many can you know are we sorry? Sorry? Are we including?
I'm not including are these all mainline Donkey Kongs?
Are we including other other games that are like peripheral,
like, you know, spinoff games? Hmm.
I'm not including.
Mario and Donkey Kong.
OK, but based on the Wikipedia entry,
OK, there are a lot of Donkey Kong games listed there.
That's where I sourced this from. And I will. Got it. Got it.
Keep going. There is. There's maybe one in there that is that
seems like a spinoff, but it's in the main entry. Okay.
I'll I'll I'll start the bidding at seven. I can do seven Donkey
Kong games. Twenty two total. I'll go a little lower this time.
What about you, Heather? I can do seven Donkey Kong games. 22 total. I'll go a little lower this time. What about you Heather? I can do one. Heather? So I challenge Nick to seven. Nick has to name seven. Okay, Donkey Kong, Donkey Kong Jr., Donkey Kong 3. There were the Donkey Kong, Donkey Kong Jr., Donkey Kong 3.
There were the Donkey Kong games for the Game Boy,
but I can't remember the subtitle.
I'll go to Donkey Kong Country,
Donkey Kong Country 2, Donkey Kong Country 3,
and then I can say Donkey Kong 64.
That brings me to seven, right?
That does bring me to seven, that's right.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Some of those weren't names. You brings me to seven, right? That does bring me to seven, that's right. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Some of those weren't names.
You want me to get subtitles?
I mean, I could have just named Donkey Kong
over and over again.
Yeah, but I mean, if I said Donkey Kong 4,
that's not a game, so that one doesn't count.
Donkey Kong, okay, so Donkey Kong,
well, Donkey Kong 64 doesn't have a subtitle.
Donkey Kong, Donkey Kong Jr., Donkey Kong 3, all don't have subtitles, correct? Donkey Kong Country doesn't have a subtitle. Donkey Kong, Donkey Kong Jr., Donkey Kong 3
all don't have subtitles, correct?
Donkey Kong Country does not have a subtitle.
So we're just talking about Donkey Kong Country 2
and Donkey Kong Country 3.
That's right.
One of them is Dixie's,
is Donkey Kong Country 2 just Dixie Kong Country?
No.
Or is that three? That's, yeah, that's three. Well, and there's more of a subtitle to it as well. Is Donkey Kong Country 2 just Dixie Kong Country? No.
Or is that three? That's, yeah, that's three.
Well, and there's more of a subtitle to it as well.
It's Dixie's something.
And then Donkey Kong Country 2,
I don't remember the subtitle.
But anyway, I can keep going.
If you wanna swap them out with two different ones.
Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze,
Donkey Kong Country Returns, Donkey Kong tropical freeze Donkey Kong Country Returns
Donkey Konga Donkey Konga 2 Donkey Kong jungle beat or DK jungle beat I think is the title
Donkey Kong King of swing okay, it gets the point. He's named way more than seven. It's a point I
Just what was the Donkey Kong Country to?
Quest Diddy's Kong that one was diddy Kong's quest yeah diddy's Kong and then Donkey Kong Country 3 is Dixie Kong's double trouble
Dixie Kong's double trouble should gun is diddy Kong racing on the on this one racing is on the list
Okay, got it. What are we at? How many how many more do we have left?
of the Donkey Kong games
There's there's there's quite a few more. There's Donkey Kong, Jr. Math. There's oh, yeah
I should have gotten Donkey Kong, Jr. Donkey you said you named Donkey Kong
Donkey Kong to Donkey Kong jungle beat there's Donkey Kong barrel blast for the Wii. Oh, right
I forgot about that game and then I I was struggling whether or not to include these because Donkey Kong
There's Donkey Kong one, 2, and 3
for the Game & Watch.
I didn't do repeat titles.
Sure, yeah.
There is Donkey Kong Circus and Donkey Kong Hockey
for Game & Watch.
Those would sort of be like, if you got those.
Those would be bonus.
That's kind of bonus.
And then there's Donkey Kong for the Game Boy, Donkey Kong Land,
Donkey Kong Land 2.
That's what I was looking for. Donkey Kong Land. It's Donkey Kong Land the Game Boy, Donkey Kong Land, Donkey Kong Land 2, and Donkey Kong Land 3.
That's what it was!
Donkey Kong Land.
It's Donkey Kong Land.
Do those have subtitles?
Just the numbers.
And then you mentioned King of Swing, and there's also DK Jungle Climber for the DS.
Okay.
I can't remember which is which.
And finally.
Alright, it's tied up.
It's tied up.
Is anybody's game?
I've done so much. Diddy's Kong Quest, that's tied up tied up. There's anybody's game. I've done so much
Did he's conquest that's one of these there are 20 titles 20 titles
in the Legend of Zelda series
Heather you want to start the bidding this time I
Can do five I?
Can definitely do six I can do seven.
I can do eight.
Oh.
Are we including, is our remasters or re-releases separate?
They're not included.
Okay.
What are we at, eight?
Nick's at eight, holding strong at eight.
Heather, you could either name nine or make him name.
Oh.
I'll go up to ten oh okay 11 guys the game is good this I'm so
excited this is this is what I said it's
tense 11 because the the spin-offs is
where it gets challenging um I would say
this one has more main lines.
Heather name 11 Zelda's.
Alright.
Wow.
Legend of Zelda.
I think you're gonna get it.
Legend of Zelda, Link's Awakening.
Legend of Zelda, Link to the Past.
Legend of Zelda, Wind Waker.
Legend of Zelda, Phantom Hourglass.
Legend of Zelda, Spirit Tracks.
Legend of Zelda, Ocarina of Time,
Legend of Zelda, Tears of the Kingdom, Legend of Zelda, oh, the one before Tears of the
Kingdom, which is called, oh fuck, what's the one before Tears of the Kingdom called?
You know.
You know it, you know it.
It's uh, I'm about to lose my...
Mind?
No, well that wasn't helpful I guess.
I'm out of...
Time.
No.
Once you get it, you'll be like, those were good clues actually.
What's the count at right now?
We're at eight.
I had to look at my hands.
Oh, Link's Adventure.
Great. Well, it's not called that, so no.
It's not Legend of Zelda, Link's Adventure.
It's called something else. It's close.
I would maybe change the order.
The Adventures of Link?
I'll give it to you. The Adventure of Link.
The Gameboy games is called the Adventures of Link? I'll give it to you. The Adventures of Link.
Wait, the Game Boy games is called the Adventures of Link?
It's not Link's Adventure?
Oh well, doesn't matter.
The second game in the, hmm,
I don't have that Game Boy game.
Zelda II, The Adventures of Link.
Are you complaining with Link's Awakening?
Which I think you already said.
I already said that one.
Yeah.
All right, so I'm at eight.
You're at nine now.
That was nine.
What's the fucking one with the fucking octopus robots?
What is that game called?
The one that came out on Switch.
It's got the Sheikah Slate.
I don't know.
Legend of Zelda, Twilight Princess, Legend of Zelda.
Hmm.
Skyward Sword.
Heather?
That's without whatever that one was that I can't remember.
You're the winner.
Wow.
Of the very first How Many.
That was fun.
How many? What is it?
What's a, yeah, wait, wait, wait, what do we, so she had 11, what do we have left? We have 11 more?
Yeah.
So, wait, can we try to, like, there's, let's see,
the Minish Cap was that said?
Minish Cap is on there.
Four Swords Adventures wasn't said?
Four Swords Adventures.
I also have Four Swords standalone as well.
Majora's Mask.
Majora's Mask not said.
Yeah.
Skyward Sword, I think you got.
I said it.
Yeah, that was the last one.
What is the fucking switch one? Breath of the Wild. you got. I said it. Yeah, that's the last one. What is the fucking Switch one?
Breath of the Wild.
But dead, god damn it.
There's the Rhythm Game, the Hyrule,
it's not Hyrule Symphony, but it's something like that.
Not on the list, unfortunately.
Hyrule Tingles Timer, or whatever.
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
tingle, freshly're missing here.
Freshly touched tingles.
And then there is crossbow training on there?
Crossbow training not on here.
We are missing the Oracle of Seasons and Oracle of Ages.
Oh, of course, of course.
And then a link between worlds.
Yeah, that's right.
And then Triforce Heroes was on the list as well.
Triforce Heroes?
Wow.
Yeah.
It was on the... What about Wand of Gamelon wow. Yeah, it was on the it was on it was.
What about Wand of Gamelan?
Wand of Gamelan not on there.
Excuse me, Princess.
Excuse me.
That was it for
that's a fun game. How many that's mentally taxing?
Because if you feel confident and then you're like you're quickly your brain runs out of gas.
I didn't think of Breath of the Fucking Wild. I was like, oh no
And I think we could do this a million times. It's it's it that's that's a good that's I like that It worked out great. I'm happy with your performance
That was fun Matt. Good job
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Wow. One episode.
What an episode. And you know what?
I don't think anybody got I don't think anybody got played.
I think the merchant got played
by showing up at the wrong time.
I think so, yeah, he played himself.
Damn, well, you guys have to tell him.
I'm out, I don't want to.
I'm not telling him.
I'm 100% not gonna tell him.
Ranch will tell him.
Sorry, Ranch.
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