Get Played - Video Game Physical Media Formats

Episode Date: August 11, 2025

Heather, Nick and Matt open some Magic The Gathering: Final Fantasy booster packs, rank video game physical media formats and cast a hypothetical film adaptation of Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater. Check out the video game console media we discussed here: https://obsoletemedia.org/data/video-game-console-media/ and make your own tier list here https://tiermaker.com/create/get-played-tiers-of-the-kingdom---video-game-formats-18555082 Check out our brand new merch at kinshipgoods.com/getplayed  Follow us on social media @getplayedpod Music by Ben Prunty benpruntymusic.com Art by Duck Brigade duckbrigade.com For ad-free main feed episodes, our complete back catalogue including How Did This Get Played? and our Premium DLC episodes and our exclusive show Get Anime'd where we're currently watching Birdie Wing: Golf Girls’ Story go to patreon.com/getplayed  Join us on our Discord server here: https://discord.gg/getplayed  Wanna leave us a voicemail? Call 616-2-PLAYED (616-275-2933) or write us an email at [e-mail] Advertise on Get Played via Gumball.fm All of our links can be found at linktree.com/getplayedpod See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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market uh to you know to s nk and to nintendo and to Atari and to Sega we got to get in there No, yeah, I'm hearing that, you know, Sony is, like, is starting to want to get into this market, too, so we have to... I've heard Microsoft is thinking about doing a console. We got to beat them to the punch. We got to beat them. Let's go Zenith. Yeah, let's go Zenith. Yeah, let's go Zenith.

That's the spirit of it, Doug,ette. Thank you very much. I don't know if you guys have system names yet lined up. I think just the Zenith Z is a cool, like, hey, do you, you got a Z in your house? That's pretty good. What people know about Zenith is the Z. Yeah, it's the strongest association. You know, it's a big, you know, it's a big bright Z on the cover of the system.

I love it. You know, like you can use a sort of a formatted branding across all of your game cartridges or your CDs or whatever. You guys talked about formats yet? Yeah, well, that's the big thing. If we're brainstorming a console, we've got to figure out what the hardware specifications are and notably what the game delivery format is going to be. when you think of games

what is the thing that comes to mind it's software right that's what holds the games yeah but why are all of the formats harder as rocks you make a lot of sense Doug yet I'm not quite sure on the etymology there

you got me I would like to propose you know those snakes that you can't hold because they keep slipping in between your hands so there's sort of those like yeah there's sort of like gel-filled tubes. Yeah, gel-filled tube.

So imagine if you take out of the box, that's your game. And you don't even have to put it into the system because the system's down below you. It just goes right in because it's sort of a wet tube. I'm just trying to figure out what I'm picturing here. So, you know, your set-top box, which we know in most homes from our research lives on the home entertainment system. Like in the living room. Absolutely. So someone is going to.

And it's the zenith. Z. The Xeneth C. So someone is standing in front of their Zenith TV hooked up to a Zena C. That's great brand synergy. Now, that is the American dream. And they are holding a wet snake. The slot is like if you took a cocaine and you cut off the top, so it's a round slot.

Yes. And then you got your snake and you drop it in. Bam, you're playing with Z. Okay, that's one idea. I could see it being maybe a little bit conversant. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hold on. I came in here with my top-tier ideas and you said yes, all the way. You said Z-N-Z, branding is good.

And then you just, you just shoot on my idea better than tube. No, I didn't. I don't know why you had to do that to me. Do you have any idea how many jobs I've had? Dugette, that's not fair. I think I've had so many jobs. I like the Z-N-Zee. I think that's a great pitch.

It may be what we go with first night of best. idea might be Go for the tube Douggett, hold on Just calm down for us You're getting defensive You're getting hostile Yeah

You can't just yell Go for the tube at us When you propose dropping a wet snake From a certain height Oh my god Dugette That's amazing

Congratulations I'm pregnant Do you need to step away For a moment Do you need some time To gather yourself Over the place Okay

Yeah That explains it Let me just Let me just pitch Another idea we could have a... Insensitive. Sorry, I just, I was trying to get around what was going on.

Okay, okay. We could have a rectangular piece of hard plastic with a circuit board inside and some pin connectors that go into a top loading slot. But the consumer is confused because they're like, what is it? Hardware or software? Well, I think they're just used to that being how game systems work.

Why can't the game bend? I need this to go. I need this to go forward. My baby needs money. I need to get an education for the baby. I hate to be taking away money for your baby, but I think I solved it. Yeah. So it's a gun shape.

Okay. And you jam the gun into the console and you pull the trigger and then the game starts. Oh, man, I'm going to lose my job. That's so good. It is really good. That's awesome. And is it like the game is a bullet? That's so good.

It's like a wet tube. Now we're talking. Zena Z. Bang! We blow dust out of our cartridges and debate CD-ROMs versus G-D-ROMs as we make our tier list of game formats, mediums. What do you call these? This week on Get Played.

Welcome to Get Played, your one-stop show for good games, bad games, and every game in between. It's time to get played. I'm your host, HAC, along with my fellow host, Tiger Wiger. That's me, Tiger Wiger, along with our third host, The Finisher, the Xbox Kid, Mr. Games, Matt Appadaka. Hello, everyone. Hello, everyone, and welcome back to the premiere video game podcast where this week we are talking about formats. Formats, game mediums, boy, has a, you know, a topic that is sadly no longer really relevant as everything is switched to digital distribution. Untrue.

All right, we'll talk about it. Formats, that's like three more me's. Let's go. It is like three more use. Yeah, I'm one. Yeah, you're one of them. them. I'm one Matt. It's also every Kingdom Hearts game.

Format. That's true. Those are for me. God, is there one of them that's not for me? No, I even like the card one. The card one's great. Nice. I like to hear it. We'll get into it. Chain of memories, it's called.

We'll get into game formats, game mediums, game delivery devices. I played it. The back when software was a physical medium and the different types that existed. And which ones are best? Which ones reign supreme? That's what we're going to decide today. I got to just say something real quick.

What? We were trying to figure out what to do for this week's episode. I sort of pitched this as a like, I don't know, this. And then immediately it was like, ah, this kind of seems a little crazy. That's maybe too much. And then you both were like, no, no, no, no, that's the show. Yeah, that's what we should do. I'm doing the right thing.

This is the right topic. Yeah, that's the show. Yeah. And then when you guys said that, I couldn't disagree because that is the show. That's right. That is the show. and that is today's show specifically. Do you think that the listeners can tell

that I'm wearing sunglasses? You do sound cool. Yeah, you do sound like you're wearing sunglasses. I feel more confident. Yeah, that's cool. I feel more aggressive. I wish I had my sunnies on me. I have my regular reading classes

and gosh darn it, I feel like a freaking dork, a nerd. I may have this shift to regular glasses when we're looking at the screen for the formats. Yeah. These are awfully dark. Yeah. They look cool.

Cool. Thank you so much. Thank you. Yeah, I can definitely, I'm definitely getting sunglasses energy from you, but also I can see you're wearing sunglasses. But I do feel like it's coming across in your performance. I love it. I love to hear it. You're like flexing really hard. I feel flexed. You think people can tell him wearing a hat? Because I feel like I don't normally wear a hat when we do the podcast. You usually wear a hat.

I'm usually had. You do it. I've done it. But it's not a, it's not an everyday thing. Most podcasts, I'm happy. And I just feel like I've got to point out, it's a hat-pack hat. Yes, that's right. Our friends over at the Hollywood Handbook. Our buddy, Chef Kevin. Yeah, Chef Kevin. I do have to point out.

Yeah. There was a period of time in the recent past where Rochelle was engineering on behalf of Kevin, Hollywood Handbook. That's true. You were subbing in for Chef Kevin over there. I'm not trying to start beef or not. Uh-huh. I'm just pointing out what was said on the show. They asked, they asked Rochelle, which show was her favorite to work on.

she said our show and not theirs and she could have easily said theirs to make them feel better but she invoked us we weren't even in the room and you know what that feels nice I've been on that show

it feels like you're on a sinking yacht you're on a sinking yacht you're on a sinking yacht and you're like one of the last ones my experience being on that show is feeling like one of the pieces of hanging meat that Rocky punches

I go to this well a lot But I'm sideshow Bob And they're sentient rakes And they're standing in front of them Love those guys They're great Hey and I love you guys And I have a little something for us

The top of the show That's right Us guys I got my hands Wait what? Us guys? Yeah us guys The people in studio

Wow No I can fuck about the listeners Oh shit We love our listeners. We do. I got my hands on some MTV Final Fantasy booster packs. I have one for each of us. I figured we could rip some packs here on the show.

Holy shit. There you go. Give me the bottom one. Okay, you get the bottom one. That means Ranch gets this one. A ranch, which ones do you want? Left hand or right hand. Right hand.

How do we know what's worth money? I don't know. I don't know. I'm scared. But also, these are my now very first. I guess I have a commander deck at home, but this is the first pack of Magic, the gathering cards I've ever opened.

Oh, wow, really? Yeah. That's wild. Yeah. I should have brought some sleeves. I apologize for that, but yeah, I trust us all to keep these in good condition. She sure does. We're talking about tattoo sleeves.

That's right. All right, let's, uh, how should we do this? Should we all open at once and just sort of show it or should we go one at a time? Let's go one at a time. Okay. All right, great. Heather, uh, I'm terrified to damage the cards within. How do I do this without?

There's a little slit here. Oh, there's a little slit. Yeah. Yeah. It can be your starter. All right. So I pull this down. See again.

How do you do this without? Does everyone's boosters have cloud on the front? My booster has cloud. And let me tell you something, he's looking good. Yeah, he looks good as hell. Right, all right, right, right, right. Here we go, here we go. Okay, here we go. This is exciting.

Yes. Here we go. This video is going to get a million views. You think so? Okay. We're opening cards on the internet. It's over. Don't they normally turn it over and then you put this one behind?

Is that something like that? Yeah, yeah. And then you turn them over one at a time. I've watched them on boxing. So we've got. Warrior's sword Okay Show the camera

Oh I got to show the camera The camera Warrior's sword Okay this means nothing to me I don't know who warrior is Then we've got Gigantode Okay

That's pretty cool That is cool Okay great Then we've got White Mages staff That's a final fantasy reference I'll take that Wow

Love the art on these Me too Yeah very nice art We have 14 cards apiece Oh Jesus, that's a lot Oh, okay Stuck in Summoner's Sanctum Sorry I went so, I didn't realize

I'll do it this way We've got That's a lot more cards than I thought In a pack Oh, magic pot Love that I like that Very nice, very nice

Yeah buddy These are these are This is delicate Okay we've got Fight On Which shows I got Aeth and Tifa On that

Nope who is this I don't know Aerith and somebody else You feel Oh, yeah, you see. Wow. It's on the front of that art. Then I've got realms sketching.

Okay, great. Cool. Okay, up next we've got Galoves' final act. Wow. Okay, I don't know if any of these are worth anything. Black Waltz number three. I know that guy. Okay.

Then this one was already backwards within the deck. Oh. The Lord Master of Hell. What the heck? Wow. And on the back of it is the Emperor of Pulmonary. Wow. Okay.

That seems cool. Is that a two-sided card? It's a two-sided card. It's a two-sided card. Huh. Interesting. I've never seen that before. I haven't either.

But it's got blue and red, so I assume that it's on purpose. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, I've got another two-sided card here called Whoa. Transcouja Fate Defied and Kuja Genome Sorcerer. That's cool. This is how out of touch I am with magic.

Because I stopped playing before the idea of a two-sided card exists. Probably something that's been around for. 20 years now. We've got a light hologram in ice magic. That's fucking sick. Look at that. I look at that. I like that a lot.

Okay. Then we've got Charlene Nation of Scholars. I don't know that reference. I should. Then just treasure. Hell yeah. Love that.

We've talked about treasure in the past. Treasure is good. Treasure. This is a long segment. And hero on the other side. Wow. And then the final card, which was at the back of the deck,

is now Black Mages Rod. Wow. You got the White Mages' Staff and the Black Mages Rod, both in one. All right. Thank you so much. Here we go. Here we go.

God, I hope you get a hologram sepher off and your hands are shaking. I'm scared. I'm nervous. I'm nervous. Okay, here we go. I'm going to do exactly what Heather did. I'm going to take the one on the bottom

or one on the top and put it on the bottom. So here we go. My first card is Haste Magic. Okay. And it's got Cloud on there. Classic spell. Cloud doing his thing. there. I got Town

Greeter. It's sort of the Hey Buddy card. Here we go. I got Gala Cat. It's a little white cat with bat wings. Nice. That's good stuff right there. Dreams of Laguna. Okay. Here we go. Okay. It's the Orange County card right there.

Then we got Lunatic Pandora. Oh, fuck. That's sick. That's pretty good. Wow. Wait, can I see that card? Yeah, you can see it. There you go. Lunatic Pandora is pretty good. adventurers in that's a cozy looking car this is awesome

that looks really really nice legendary artifact wow I got folks we have a summon oh this is primal garuda okay primal garuda I'll show it to the camera right there

there we go I feel like card guys are gonna be so like we're doing something wrong here like the way we're handling these or the way we're unboxing us like we're doing something wrong yeah we're sorry we're not usual pack rippers we're just having fun

This one is called Swallowed by Leviathan, and there's a ship inside of a monster's mouth. Was that Lunatic Pandora shiny, or was it regular? It is regular. It is regular. That is a three-cent card. Very cool. Okay, this is huge for me. Poison the waters.

Poison the waters. Check that out right there, pretty cool. That's what the EPA is up to these days. Their new executive order. Just dump up a bunch of arsenic in the water. Waterways. I got another summon. Okay.

Shiva. Ooh. Shiva's a good summon. Sheva's a great summon. Zodiarc umbral god. Right? Looks really cool. That's like cool.

Pretty good. And then let's see. Oh, this one is a hollow. Undercity Dyer Rat. Oh, okay. Rap boy. Very cool. Rat boy right here.

Very nice. Oops. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry to the card ripper. Sorry. Sorry, car guys. Sorry, car guys.

Vector Imperial Capital Okay, that looks cool This appears to be a double-sided card On one side it says hero And on the other side it says wizard And the wizard kind of is like a little guy Yeah, it's a good little guy And then finally I have cornered by black mages

Wow, both cards in our last slots Black Mage cards black Mage cards There we go I'm open to some bitch and then Ranch you can take us home This is thrilling Okay here we go Bup-da-da-b-da-b-da-b-da-b-da-b-da-b-da-bid-bid-bid-bid-bid-bid-pid-pid-pid-pid-pid. I got upside down.

That's bad boy on the bottom. All right, first up. Blazing bomb. Whoa. Second up. Blitzball shot. Oh, that's pretty cool. Hey, blitzball.

Looks like Waka's on there. Yeah. Very cool. Love that. Cool. Summon Choco slash Moeg. very cool Wow

We got a Rook turret Ooh Hill Giggis Wow Prish's Wanderings Rufus Shinnra Okay okay

They won't know this guy Legendary Creature Human Noble Whenever Rufus Shinnra attacks If you don't control a creature Name Darkstar create Darkstar A Legendary 22 White and Black Dog creature token, I'll control the world with fear.

It takes too much to do it like my old man. Why are you saying that? That's what's up that's a fucking flavor tax. Hey, I want you to be careful with that card. Okay. That's a $70 card. Whoa. Even just as a like a non-shiny is just a...

I mean, if you look it up on eBay, on its own, non-shiny, $70. Wow. How about that? Okay. I struck gold. I fucking rigged it What the head I knew which one had the legendary in it

Wow how sad It needed the $70 I'm a sick fuck I'm wrong but on TCG player It's 8 cents Okay great Summon Fenrir Cool

And Unexpected request Matt you have any Q tips I just cast it I wouldn't I guess I wouldn't I wouldn't expect you to ask that Wow, Cloud Midgar Mercenary.

I got a fucking cloud. That's cool. When cloud enters, search your library for an equipment card, reveal it, put it into your hand, and then shuffle. As long as cloud is equipped, if an ability of cloud or an equipment attached to it triggers, that ability triggers an additional time. May I see that card? Yeah, look at the front of that card.

All right, that card on TCG player is $24. Okay. That might be a real, a real. Boy. Very cool. I'm going to hold on to it. We have searched for the Frozen Esper. This is really cool because this has just like the straight up pixel art from Final Fantasy

six on that. Awesome. It's a lot of fun. And then Thunder Magic. This is a shiny, it looks like. Wow. Nice. And then finally, am I at the back end?

Oh, hell yeah. Swamp. Oh, shit. You got to have some land cards. You got to have some land cards. And it's nice that they have some land cards with the Final Fantasy Flames. That's a lot of fun. What is this?

This is just an art card. Guys, I'm scared I might get into this. Yeah, I know. It's pretty cool. That was fun. Richel, you got to open yours. Undercity Dyer Rat? Did he do that one?

I got that one too. That one's great. Yeah. I love the rat. You would. I do sort of love rats. I don't want one in my domicile. I don't want to,

I don't want one to sort of graze me at any point. but, you know, when you go to New York City and, you know, that rat infested town and you're in the subway and you see a rat come kind of far away, you're kind of like, that's kind of funny. Fundamentally, a rat is a little guy and you love little guys.

Yeah, they're just kind of my pizza rat, one of the great rats. Yeah. My rarest card is going for $1.19 on TCG. Okay. Here we go, Ranch. What do you got? Namazu Trader.

Oh, wow. Okay. Okay. A sabotender. He looks like a cactus. Nice. Like a cactuar? Summon fat chocobo.

Hey! Oh, fuck. Very cute. That's good. We love that fat fuck. Yeah. The card art universally, very appealing. Oh, yeah.

Cloudbound a muggle. Okay. A muggle on its way to cloud, perhaps? I wonder if he's bound to cloud strife. Maybe. Or if he, it's a physical cloud. Yeah. Like a Lakitu.

Sage is. Nowlitz. Okay. Cool. Looks cool. I guess we should be saying, like, I should have been saying, like, creature or instant or, you know, land or whatever. But whatever.

Who gives a shit? Who cares? We don't do this. We're just having fun. We're new. Get off our fucking backs. What's that one? Instant mad.

Instant laughing mad. Okay. Instant laughing mad. Zedain knee. Zedain. Zadane. Wow. Can't tell us thief.

Holy shit. Wait, I want to look at that one. Let's look up that one He's a good boy This is really cool card art Let me see This is our guy Final Fantasy 9 protagonists with the tail

Human Mutant Scout Legendary Creature wins itane enters Gain control of target creature Until an opponent controls until end of turn Untap it, it gains life link and haste Until end of turn Whenever an opponent gains control of a permanent from you you create a treasure token

I'm sorry that's 20 cents He looks cool though He looks cool very cool but only 20 cents I don't know Zadane I gotta get in there Final Fantasy 9 I haven't played it You stopped it you when you were going through playing through the whole series you stopped at 7 right

Or did you play 8? I didn't play 8 I've played one two and three And I played I think like I played some of four But I didn't finish 4 even So you get the Super Nintendo ones to go through it as well Yeah so I've done 7 And then 16 my favorite Lionheart artifact

Cool Nice Lionheart's a good sword Thief's knife Love that Nice Sorcereruses schemes This one's like a

Oh Sorcercercercerous schemes Let's look up that one Scenes Scimes Gonaga Reactor Town Hey okay cool Summon GF Cerberus Okay

Summon Titan Oh Cool, cool. And then Luca Stadium. Wow. Very cool. Okay. I like about Cerberus.

What's that? Got three heads. So the main thing? Yeah. Dog with three heads. Pretty cool. You know what I like about Edward Scissor hands? What's that?

His scissor hands. Honestly, it's what makes him notable. That was a lot of fun. I like that. I like his penis hands. They're under the scissors. That's the porno parody. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Which my brother got me for. my 18th birthday Edward Cizzard Hands first movie would ever make me cry Oh

Yeah how about that Yeah Edward penis hands Something else happened You cry because he saw Those cookies Yeah I was like no He didn't have a little

Disgusting film Yeah he couldn't cut anybody's hair With those All right hey We should I like Nick Thank you for the gift That was a lot of fun

Super exciting. Yeah, why not? And extremely addictive. I definitely want to start gambling and just opening packs all the time. Yeah, that was fun. I did some, this is a thing I had a deep pandemic thing I did when I was on Twitch. I would open some basketball cards. I actually have, still have some, a stash of like Skybox like 1990 unopened packs.

Wow. And I was ripping them open and I'd just be like, like just pull it the feet, like pulling a Michael Jordan from 1990, even if it was like, you know, a PSA 3 quality. be actually worth anything, but it's, like, very exciting in the moment when you do it. I was doing Pokemon cards during that time, and I bought so many Pokemon cards during the pandemic, and they sit sweetly in a binder. I was watching some slot machine streamers and YouTubers, just because I was like, this is a whole world that exists. I didn't even know about this.

This is a thing, like, you watch it, and it's, like, immediately so compelling, and it just reminds you how fucking dumb you are. Yeah. And it's just like, now this is so, like, sitting at slot machine, is like, I know I am dumb, but I understand I am putting money in and sometimes getting money out. It's a, you know, delayed reward sort of, I forget what, you know, what of the classical conditioning, operant conditioning things it is, but, you know, like the intermittent reward or whatever the term is, the most addictive one. Like, I get what it's going on for.

But when there's a layer of abstraction of it, I'm watching someone else doing it. Yes. But you're still like, oh, I hope this guy wins. You know, it's just like, oh, I'm fucking dumb as shit. I got rocks in my skull. I'm watching and enjoying random chance on somebody else's behalf. And then like these streamers, though, it'll be like someone and hey, whatever, it's fine. Like, do whatever you want with your time and your money.

Like, it's totally fine. I mean, even being judgmental here. But like, people will like, like, give donations on the stream so someone can gamble that donation. So you're like, here's some of my money for you to gamble on my behalf and you keep the winnings. And I'm just going to enjoy my $20 being spent by you at, you know, know, like the cheers slot machine at the MGM Grand or whatever the fuck. This makes me think that like running man is like completely possible and like plausible in our in our life.

Yeah. That's like 100%. That's so wild. I think the only thing that stops running man from happening is the theater of goodness. Yeah. We're all engaged in this theater of goodness. When we finally debase ourselves and reveal. the country as the ugly thing that it is like truly

without any of the sort of artifice running man will be on the next day on television. Oh for sure. Like if it was there a show and it was just like whoever can drink the most piss wins money. People would be watching the piss drinking show. Yeah, yeah. I would be watching a piss drinking show. I'd be the fucking champion. I would watch somebody be like

oh, no, oh. It's puking up piss. I did not like it if they liked it. If they liked it, I'm off. I'm putting on tan. But if they're like, oh, God, no! I like it. Get out of here.

You're disqualified. Get out of here. Here's the thing, guys. I have been traveling recently. I went over to the UK and I'll admit, the Wi-Fi speed, the internet speed when you're traveling abroad, those roaming data cap shit, like you have to buy like a 50 quid. I don't know. It's tough. It's tough when you're abroad and you've badly needed an internet connection with no Wi-Fi spot and site. So you understand what a difference a local SIM card can make.

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That's not the question. I thought that was what you were doing. You can't, no, yeah. Compare the, you can't go rogue here. You can't audition to be the host of that show during this show. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to America's favorite talk show. Who's drinking miss? My name's Kenny from Rhode Island, and I'm treating.

That's right, Katie, you're going to drink so much piss. Oh, fuck, I hate it. Oh, Charlie, it says you're a teacher. I teach piss studies. Oh, you're going to love this show. Big money, big money. Oh, man, so anyway, oh yeah, what is it? What are you playing?

That's right, that is the correct question. Residymourchant, thank you so much for being here, gracing us with your presence. You're welcome. I love reunion. I love you guys. We love having you. Nick, what are you playing? Wow, R.E. Merchant, I will answer you. And I rolled credits on a game I've talked about the past two weeks, The Drifter.

Oh, wow. I am sadly very busy with work right now, so it took me two weeks to get through a nine-hour game. But I did get through it. I saw myself all the way to the ending because I found it incredibly compelling. I loved it. I think this is an all-timer among 2D point-and-click adventure games. It's definitely trying to be a callback to those 90s, as I've said before, as I've said in the previous two weeks, but I'll just, I'll just rebate myself. The 90s, Lucas Arts and Sierra Online Adventure Games, graphic adventure games, if this came out as it is in 1996 and was like, you know, like a, that first-gen, second-gen, sort of PCCD-ROM game that had full voice acting, it would be considered a classic.

And it's so great as this grimy, grim, dark aesthetic. It is also, speaking of which, something of a period piece set in the 90s, it has dial-up internet, like, limited, you know, cell phones that are clamshell, Windows 95 U.X when you use, like, in computer terminal, which I found very appealing. Just, it's just the whole thing of, like, the pre-matrix era when just like, like, oh, yeah, this was, this was just a better world that we used to live in, we used to occupy. But also, this is like a hellish version of that. There's also just like this, because it's this pixel art, like, aesthetic with Sprites, but as part of that, a big thing of, that they just absolutely nailed is the bold pixel art font that is different colors corresponding to different characters, which is a very Lucasart sort of thing. They did a great job fitting that in there, and it both meshes with the aesthetic, but

also like feels like a call back to that era of adventure games. I mentioned in my initial impressions that it begins in a vaguely sci-fi direction and it's kind of ambiguous and maybe some of these things are hallucinations. As it progresses, I will say without going into spoiler country, yaha, it is just full on science fiction. Whoa. And specifically it is a sci-fi thriller slash conspiracy theory narrative. Cool.

That again, just by being a slow burn by trickling out of like, like, what's real, what's going on? Is this a delusional man's fantasy of like, no, this is straight up like time loops, time jumps, And specifically exploring that in a way that is different than mostly what I've seen, where like a time folding back in and itself, one person initiating a time loop affects everyone's perception. So it's not just that one person has their own pocket universe they occupy, but everyone feels like something is shifted. Oh, that person went back and did this. You know what I mean? Which is just, I don't know, it's just kind of an interesting philosophical thing to think about how that would, you know, how that would affect the world.

The art direction, and I've already referred to it, by Barney Cumming is top-notch, just absolutely gorgeous lighting within the pixel art framework and some incredible environments, including this Cold War era underground facility that is so well realized, feels so lived in. And then absolutely, I've referred to this again, but previously, but some absolutely gorgeous character animation, which includes some just brutal violence, just people being absolutely fucking ripped apart, some real, real nasty gore. I also love that your player character is weak and afraid, kind of the inverse power fantasy than you normally get in games. Your character is like this marginalized unhouse man who has no resources. Nobody trusts him, not even the people close to him. He's also fragile, easily scared, easily killed. And there's a safety net built into the premise that makes death a terrifying consequence, but one that you can persevere by. You can respond and improve and fail and win and, you know, that whole cycle.

But in the end game, that safety net is removed. again, being spoiler light here because of a story development and you think the game isn't going to allow your character to perma death but it also makes it feel genuinely tense that it's that it's like possible and so you're just kind of on edge

the whole final act and it's really, really compelling. I also just found it storywise profoundly moving by the ending. It's thematically just talking about how you have to learn to live with the injustice is imposed upon you sometimes by social circumstances, sometimes by random chance and also own up to your own poor decisions

whenever you make them in life, even if they're in reaction to something unfair that's happened to you. Also just a truly menacing villain and really, really scary monsters. Like, it's the, it goes back to the Hillary's,

Hillary's. Freudian slip there. I was about to talk about history's worst monsters than threw Hillary in there. History's worst monsters are utilitarians. Wow.

And it's one of those sorts of ends justify the mean sort of guys at the head of it. But yeah, I just thought it was so great. I think anyone who loves graphic adventure games has probably already played in this game

because it's got so much buzz behind it, but I'm really glad I did. The Drifter, yeah, one of my favorites of the year so far. I love to hear this. Yeah, me too. Oh, it's so pleasant. Matt, what are you playing?

I'm playing too many games. Uh-oh. I'm playing too many games, but I'm having a lot of fun. You are Mr. Games after all. I'm Mr. Games. It's playing too many games. I'm playing too many games. Ninja Guide and Ragebound is fucking awesome,

and I think you guys would both really love. I got to play it. I can play this fucking nice. It's so fun. The soundtrack kicks so much fucking ass. It rules. It's just, and it's hard.

It's like, it's just like a challenging, it's a challenging video game. It's great. Why would you sell me on games when you're already playing too many games? I need you to suffer with me. I can't do it. Because like I,

everyone else is also is, is playing these for the most part too. I'm still playing Donkey Kong Bonanza. Oh, banana. Oh, banana. Banana. And I'm enjoying that. That's a lot of fun.

But the real thing that I'm back in on right now is Death Stranding 2. Let's... Been a couple weeks. Fucking to go. Since I've given an update. I'm not that much further than my previous update. I'm in chapter 9. I'm at the start of chapter 9 and I won't spoil anything because like things are now very spoilable at this point.

Okay. I will say there was something that happened in it that I just went, yeah. Sure. Great. It's just like, okay, yeah, I guess. And just sort of had to then like take it in stride. And it's like, it's nonsense. It's like complete nonsense, but in the best, uh, Kozima way.

And I'm just really, really enjoying it. And gosh, you know, I feel like we've talked about how good the combat is and stuff. it is not it's not even like easy combat like I feel like if it were easier and some of the encounters would be quicker I feel like some of these combat encounters can take several minutes

just in there for a while like there's these missions or then you're like you're tasked with going and taking things out of like a base basically and then there are you know brigands or whatever there are in the base and they're like sneak in and, you know, do this like undetected, but I'm, I'm not engaging in stealth at all.

Yeah. I'm just going in and just blasting, just going crazy in there. Just like walking up, getting noticed immediately and just like shooting whoever I can in the face. Yep. First try. And it's still like, I mean, it would probably be, it would probably, it honestly might be faster if I was stealthy. It would be just a little bit faster, maybe. You and I think Heather as well.

Me and Heather have vastly different approaches to how we play these sorts of games because I always try to stealth through. I got executed. I'm on, you know, hard mode. I got executed by one of my encounters this week in that Stranding and I was like, let's go. Yeah, it's great.

I'm really enjoying it. I will like, there's like times to do the stealth. I'm very stealthily around the BTs. Yeah. Because I'm just not even trying to, I'm not even trying to poke the bear. I'm not trying to, I'm going to cause a void out. you don't want to do that no yeah no no way I'm not doing that at all but I've been really

enjoying my play through of it so far and I it's this real delicate sort of like push and pull of the game though because part of me wants to just like hunker down and just get to the end of the game and experience the story and just kind of like like finish it but I'm having so much fun doing other things. Yep. Just like, the game almost doesn't, like, need, like, the other things in the game that are not the story stuff is so good that, like, you almost don't even need the story. Yeah.

Like, it's, like, it's just fun to build roads and, like, deliver packages and, and things like that. But, like, you almost want, like, an endless mode. You know, like, give us to have it's just like, hey, just fuck around. There is. There is an endless mode after you beat the game. Oh, okay. Yeah.

Yeah, like, in the first one, kind of, like, you sort of go back to whatever, before the, you know. last delivery is or something. Yeah, before the president or what a clever conceit. Yeah. They're just like, hey, we're just going to give you a time jump to just mop up all your earlier quests. And I mean, Death Stranding one has been out long enough. We just talk openly about how they handle that. But just like the, of course what happens in the end game would make it not make any sense if you were going to, you know what I mean? So they're just like, yeah, go back to doing what you were doing. Yeah, exactly. So just like, yeah, we'll just have

a little time jump here. Why not? And so I'm just like excited to keep playing it. And I just love it. I love it. And the performances in this game, too, we'll eventually just dig deep on this at some point. But there's just like some truly stellar acting in the video game. Of course. It's just like unbelievable. Well, these are stellar actors. Yeah. Honestly, like, just to shout out real quick. Yeah. Troy Baker's performance as Higgs is like one of the greatest like video game performances I've ever seen. It's unbelievable. It's so fucking good. And like he's like the go-to guy for this type of things like of course it's great but what he's doing in this game is so nuts and it's just such a crazy great performance i really really love it yeah uh my buddy van

roby show pointed out it just was talking about how elf fanning is kind of like shifted in the sci-fi direction with some of uh the recent choices of like uh but like you know i i think is in an upcoming hunger games and there's also like predator badlands is like a half like you know like cyborg, but then obviously in Death Stranding 2 on the beach as well. Yes. It's a, it's, I'm very excited about her career. She's like doing, she's making

cool choices. Yeah, I can't wait to see Predator Badlands. She's a star of my wife's movie. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good, good shit. That's, I'm, I'm on Death Stranding 2, baby. I love to hear it. Yeah. What about you, Heather? Well, I also got to play about one total hour of Death Stranding 2 this week, so I can't speak to, to, with great emphasis on how much of death-straining two I've been able to play.

I'm here to talk about the Nintendo Alarmo. Whoa. So last week, I started to get nervous that the Alarmo was going to disappear. Right. And that a piece of Nintendo hardware was going to sink into the abyss and become the sole purview of collectors. And I was like, I can't let this happen. I'm the one with the hole. I've got to get an alarmo.

Especially since I did see that it was sold out of the Nintendo store in Tokyo. And I was like, oh, man, maybe they're not restocking it. Maybe they've already stopped making the alarmo. So I got an alarmo. What is the Nintendo alarmo? Well, for those of you listeners who weren't following the news maybe nine months ago, Nintendo announced an alarm clock which features

soundscapes from different Nintendo IP it comes packed in with I think six different soundscapes each of these soundscapes is subdivided into different themes so like if I'm picking the legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild which was the first one I picked of course because I don't want to wake up to the sound of coins I already do in my head you have the option of like waking up to

like the first setting is waking up to adventure one of them is like waking up to a battle between you and one of the you know spider looking fucking things you can set the intensity of your wakeup like an aggressive wake up a moderate wake up or a slow wake up the way that the alarm clock works

is that without cameras it can sense motion And the theory is that Nintendo had this patented technology and needed some way of executing on this technology. And so they released this piece of hardware, the alarm clock. It also has go-to-sleep sounds. And the first time I tried it, I said the legend of Zelda go-to-sleep sound, and it was a spooky sound.

And I was like, who wants to go to sleep to this? No, I can't. I won't be up all night. do do do do. No, no, no. But once you get past the initial... The call of the blood moon rises. Once you get past the initial spooky sound,

then it's just the really nice piano, like the tinkling of piano, and owls and the sound of a campfire. And it is very relaxing. And I was like, oh, okay. I'm glad I chose to do this again the next night because I would have given up on sleepy sounds. Right.

I don't know what a Mario Sleepy sound would be. Like I can't, I would imagine it's going under the pipe. Maybe him falling asleep in his idle animation and in Super Mario 64. It could be except each Mario game has its own soundscape. Oh, okay. So the original Super Mario Brothers is one soundscape. So what could the sleepy sounds be on the original Super Mario Brothers? On Odyssey, I'm sure it is like a water level or something sleepy.

the interesting thing about the alarm is that the only way to deactivate the alarm you can't do anything to the fucking clock maybe you could pound on that button on that there's like one big button on the top of the of the clock yeah that's also a light which is pleasant and I know that you can set it so that pressing the button is the only way to disengage the alarm but the default setting for the alarm clock is that you have to move in order to turn off the alarm okay so you can roll over and it'll go in a snooze mode. Like you roll over and it automatically senses that you've rolled over.

Wow. And then it'll snooze for five to ten minutes depending on your pre-established setting. But the only way to get the alarm clock to go off is to get out of bed. Wow. And if you set it to like a moderate intensity, the sound of the thing that wakes you up becomes more and more intense like you're in a battle the longer you stay in bed. Interesting. So you get like when I first woke up,

it was just like the like a chiming sound like a nice like morning soundscape but then uh today i got out of bed before the alarm clock went off and i assumed oh it knows i'm out of bed so i went into the kitchen made myself coffee and i came back and i just heard link in a battle with like the battle music going and the alarm clock numbers were like shaking up and down and i was like oh it doesn't know i'm awake and i like i stood next to the bed and it registered that i was out of bed and and then I left. It is a delightful little piece of hardware. I am certain that is going to be a failure.

Right. Because who is, who wants this? Yeah, I mean, it's like so many people are just using their phones or their watches as alarms now. I don't keep my phone in my bedroom, but I do use my watch as an alarm. Me too. It works because it taps, which is really nice. Yeah, yeah. But I also had a separate alarm clock for time.

And I feel like if anyone's going to be like, I'm going, if anyone's going to be like, I'm not going to, I'm pointedly not going to use my smartphone as an alarm. I want that to be somewhere else. I don't want to be charging that, reading my phone at night or first thing in the morning. Then I think that would also be someone who would pick like a low tech alarm clock, right? Like, why would they pick the alarmo, this sort of gimmicky sort of piece of hardware? Right. An alarm clock that I have to like create an internet connection. Yes.

in order to download new alarm sounds. I don't know. It's fascinating. I can see it. I can see it on my shelf in the future and people being like, what is that? So you're saying we should buy this? I, look, the other thing is, I don't know how, I, I just, if both people don't get out of bed, does it, does it turn off? Yeah, right.

Yeah. what about your partner right like mary gets up before me so it's not it's not an issue yeah but like if if she didn't what what would that be all about or if she went you know like how does it how does it know maybe on those days you set it to the button push could be yeah but um it's yeah it's a charming it looks like it's from the world of super mario odyssey it's got a great design i don't know if you're looking at it right now i am yeah because yeah it's in your amazon cart uh it's in my Nintendo store car. I don't know if I'm going to pull a trigger on this,

but I was like just looking at it just to see what it looks like. And it is, it is a cute. It is cool. It's a neat looking design. It's about that big. It's not huge. Yeah. You know, it's a cute little guy.

I just like, yeah, I'm, I can't think of something that would annoy my wife more. Yeah. Than this, I think. Do you have a theory on why they did this? Is this one of those things where just Nintendo just has a weird idea? their internal R&D, you know, is just like, yeah, fuck it.

I had this idea for a thing. They're like, yeah, sure, why not? I think that, I think Nintendo's design philosophy is do no harm. And it feels like a harmless thing. Sure. Right? And I also wonder if they had this patent and maybe it was going to expire or something. Like, I have no idea why they made the alarmo.

It is baffling Nintendo product. So it's like the Nintendo equivalent of like Warren Beatty making a Dick Tracy special because he's going to lose the rights if he does. Exactly, exactly. Or maybe they were, maybe they were like, it's going to take so much money to develop this concept. If we don't have a way to make money back from it, then we can't put in the R&D. Like we can't just drop that coin without some version of making bank from it. So maybe they were just like, what if it was an alarm clock? I don't know. Because, I mean, it makes sense that they would, like, develop this, they developed this, if they were developing this technology for, like, a video game, you could sort of, like, buy that a little bit, right? Or it's sort of like, oh, yeah, in the way that, like,

they somehow figured out 3D effects without 3D glasses. They're like, okay, this thing doesn't have a camera or like an obvious camera or a camera that we're used to and it can sense your body. We can use this non-camera sensing thing to track your body. for a video game or something. That's kind of interesting, but they're just in like, let's just put it in a clock.

All right, so I've looked up the answer. The Nintendo Alarmo exists as a continuation of Nintendo's quality of life initiative aiming to integrate gaming and health by gamifying healthy experiences. So this is their,

from their little step tracker days. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was. We fit and stuff. It was released on October 10th, 2024, and was widely released into regular stores in 2025. Nintendo first announced their intentions to create a sleep tracking device during the financial briefing in 2014.

Whoa. Intended to mark their entry into their quality of life market, the device which would have used sensors to track a user's sleeping habits, similar to the Alarmo was being developed in partnership with health company ResMed, but was put

on hold indefinitely in 2016. I should say it does track how much you move in bed, track your hours of sleep, et cetera, et cetera. Alarmo was developed in-house by Nintendo's motion sensor research team

as a device's sensors could detect motion without the use of a camera. It was thought the technology would be appropriate for use in a bedroom. There you go. What a weird company.

God bless them I love Nintendo Yeah don't stop Don't stop being Freaking Nintendo We love you Do whatever you want Keep Nintendo weird

Yeah I'll fucking buy it Yeah Let's do TIRS of the Kingdom Game formats Slash Media T-I-E-R-S

is for tears, of course. We're talking about how software's interface on different platforms, and Matt, you're going to steward us through this. Yeah, I do feel like we have to, at this point, sort of pull back the curtain, just a tad. Yeah. Because we had planned this,

and I had prepped quite a few options. You know, because there's a lot. There's a lot here. There's video game formats going back to 1972 to today. So there's obviously a lot of ground to cover. And I got, I was very comprehensive in my building of the tier list. Yep. And got all of them.

And I believe we were rolling prior to starting the episode. And this was Nick's reaction, Ranch, play the clip. And so what I have done is that I have this list from this museum of obsolete media. And it goes by you. what they are and what they look like. So I have this up so I can see what... Jesus Christ. But we don't have to...

We can't do this whole list. No, that's why. We can. That's the show. I prepped them... Let's fucking go! I prepped them knowing we weren't going to do them all. We're going to do them all.

But I didn't want to not have one that we were going to not skip or something. You know what I mean? Yeah. So I was as comprehensive as I could be. Look at that triangle. Let's go. I even got... I even got game key cards.

Oh, my God. What are you talking about? Well, because I didn't know which ones to police out. Not me. I didn't know which ones to... He's the only one with a fucking problem. We should have been... I should have showed this on the show.

No, this is great. This is great. This is good. So everybody, of course, thought this was insane because, yeah, it is a lot. I love it. It's a lot of information. We're not going to get to all of these, but I kind of just figured I'd better have... I'd better have all of them just in case there's one that we feel strongly about including.

I love it. We can skip ones that we don't care about it. I love it. We're not going to get out to all of these. There's no way. because I need my life back. Yeah, yeah. This is the thing, because I kind of knew when I pitched this

that there was too much. But then you guys were both like, this is great. That's exactly what the show is. And I was like, are we sure? And they're like, yeah. And then now here we are. Now there's like 70 options. Yeah, what the fuck, Matt?

I tried to get us out of it. I think there's going to be plenty of overlap where it's like CD, DVD, and Blu-ray. It's like, okay, it's a disc. We got pretty granular here, but fundamentally we're talking about cartridge versus card versus cassette tape. Yeah, versus cassette tape versus, you know, a disk.

I mean, like, there's only so many different form factors. Let's just get into it. Where shall we start? Let's go chronological. All right. So I'm just going to go up front and say, yeah, everything before 1990 is a tier. Really?

Okay. Honestly, that's pretty easy. Because look, look, here is an industry trying to figure out what it is. Yeah. Right? Like, is every car that existed before like 1930 and a tier car? Absolutely it is. Because they're cool to look at and they were trying to do stuff.

Right. So I would say that, you know, all the way up until the standardized Nintendo cartridge, like your Atari cartridge is so different from your math. Magnavox cartridge, you scanned past something that was a fucking triangle. Yeah, the triangle. Let's just talk through them just for the sake of completion. So we got the Magnafox Odyssey. You might have to ambiggin that for me to read it.

But we have the Magnovocs Odyssey. Removable printed circuit boards were allowed to use your, were inserted into the Magnavox to select the chosen game. How big were these fuckers? That's what I'm trying to know. I'm trying to figure out the dimensions of each of each of these game cards. I don't have that in front of me. All right.

I'll try to look it up. But yeah, so we got the, and these ones have very long pins. They're very pinny. And then also the general instrument PC50x cartridge is another one, which is just from the first generation. Because I guess a lot of the first generation was the console had something built into it. And that was basically its entire library. Well, the PC50x cartridge, according to.

this, the obsolete media website. These are not ROM cartridges, and each cartridge contains a dedicated general instrument chip. So this is like each cartridge is the system. That's crazy. Looking at all these pins on the MagninVox Odyssey cartridge, do you think this thing's a freaking Hellraiser? It's possible it's one of the centibytes, as opposed to megabytes. That's called the Apodaka Waggara.

That was low effort. You guys can do better to the lab. I don't know. It didn't even annoy me because it felt like both of you were falling down a waterfall. The experience was I was saying it. Nick looked like he didn't like it at first and then found what he was going to say and then decided he did like it and then said his thing. Okay.

Okay. These were the width of the Magnavox game card was about. 100 millimeters. Tiny boys. Yeah, so these were little. Tiny boys. Let's look at the Fairchild Channel F. Wait, so we want to slap both these into A slot.

I mean, like, I would just put the, I think the Magnobox Odyssey one is a little uglier. I'd maybe put that as a B. Oh, oh, I was going the opposite. The Magnobox is A, and the general instrument PC 50X cartridge is a B to me. This is, I will say, it just looks like, it just like RAM you'd put into a PC. Fucking rules. Like imagine

It's 1972 And you pull up into your friend's house Who's got a MagnaVox Odyssey You reach into your pocket And you pull out all these gold chips And you throw them out on the table And you're like, what do you want to play, boys? That fucking rules

Whereas like the general instrument 50 PX cartridge That feels like somebody invited you over to their garage And you're like, John, it's too hot in here And they're like, yeah, but don't you want to play Sport? I mean, I probably do want to play sport They're not both in A then

One of them looks like a cyberpunk thing And the other thing looks like Something you would see in a public bathroom Let's put the Let's put the fucking general instruments One in B And then we'll put the Magdivox in A Let's go

I bullied my way into an A On a list that doesn't mean anything No this is very important actually Okay, we're in the second generation And each generation There's more and more Until we get to the more current times Where there's fewer, of course

Kind of a bell curve sort of structure Is the number of entrance bloats And then again, you know Narrows to the handful of survivors I had a bit of a bell curve today After I ate my Taco Bell, my tummy Got a little more full For meeting the Taco Bell

Are you losing Nick? Kind of a bell curve If you're making the rounds in that drive through. The one that I went to in particular, it's the only way in and out, actually. You know the one. The second generation, we get the Fairchild Channel Lefts, and these are, again, sort of like standard-looking interchangeable ROM cartridges.

We've also got the Colico Telstar Arcade, which we could spend some time on. The RCA Studio 2 is another one with just sort of a long, wide-boy cartridge. Yeah, the RCA Studio 2 looks like the original Famicom games. What I like about it is that it's got that sort of a thing I thought was like ugly back in the day, but now I have so much like fondness for is just like that beige computer aesthetic. And I do like that sort of look to it. And then we've also got the Atari VCS, which turned into the 2,600. And that one has very familiar looking sort of blocky cartridges.

Yep. As well as the Bally Astrocade. We got a bunch of different ones here. These are all basically cartridges. Yeah, they basically are all pretty similar, pretty interchangeable. It's just a matter of like which aesthetics you respond to. A lot of them are black. Some of them are beige.

But there are a couple that are different. And I want to highlight the different ones, the unique ones. So let's go back up to that fucking triangle. I mean, this one's S tier easy. What is the Calico Telstar? What is the Calico Telstar arcade system? Is that a, is that a, okay. Because I remember the Calico Vision.

I actually don't know what the Telstar was. Fascinating. Okay, so it's a triangular cartridge that the pins are on the that aren't on the bottom. It's not like you insert this into a machine. Instead, you seem to

lay this onto a machine in order to access the pin architecture. This thing fucking rules. Yeah. This is a clear as to because it also it looks like for the year

that it came out in 1970. it looks like very futuristic like they're like this is going to be huge triangle shapes. It's very tron. Yeah. This this is this is for the guy who came to the magnavox party and he threw all the chips on the table. Yeah. This guy came and he went

no, I've got games. Yeah. He throws out triangles and everyone's like wow. It's funny to think that anybody was excited about this when it was like the most it's like a single pixel baseball game I found a pick of the Kaliko Telstar arcade all loaded up. We have a cartridge that is inserted in the middle, and you'll see it's kind of like placed on top of it.

Yeah. Like it's a room to solve a puzzle. But then also look at what this thing is when it's all decked out with the peripherals. Holy shit. There's a steering wheel. There's a gun, like a classic revolver, as well as some paddles that are attached to it. Show that to Ranch. Ranch,

look at this. Look at this thing. What the fuck? We used to have it all. Imagine the PS5 had a fucking insert for a gun. That's crazy.

I love that. The Calico Telstar Arcade is suddenly rocketing up to the first place. Put that an S dear. That's an easy S. 100%. A lot of these other ones

are standardized cartridges. I'd be fine with them. in B or A. I put the RCA Studio, I really like the look of that one. That one to me is an A tier. Now this thing, we're just evaluating looks,

I guess, not functionality because actually that one, that cartridge might be completely, you know, these ones might fail all the time. Oh, I guarantee that triangle doesn't work.

Yeah, for sure. But just in terms of looks. Yeah. I mean, this is a really cool way to deliver a game. So that one, this is the thing. There's so many of them.

This one goes in, you said B. Put that some bitch in A. Put that some bitch in A. And then the other ones I wouldn't argue for any other ones to not be above B. I mean, what about the classic 2,600 cart? I mean, this was for a moment the closest to VHS or DVD that games became. Like the original Atari cartridge is like ubiquitous until the Nintendo dethrones it.

They're sort of like they look like modoliths. They're just like, I mean, I guess they look like a book. Yeah, they're a plane. black they have the size almost of an eight track yeah one cool thing about them is that they did have art on the outside yeah so like you look at these and like some of them you know it's it's they're kind of fun to look at just in in their uh just just just as cartridges like laid out in a row and also often misrepresenting the game that you would actually yes also a lot of these games just absolutely sucked the thing is there was such a massive overproduction of these cards

cartridges that led to the console industry collapsing before it was resuscitated by Nintendo's entry into the market. But I guess the cartridges themselves, that that's just what we're evaluating. Just a B, just a B. I don't know. I don't think there's anything that particularly stands out about them. And so would you say then everything else, like the Bally Astrocade, the Interton, VC, 4,000, these are all then like in C? Well, I do like that vault mace. What do the fuck that is?

I know, it kind of looks like pills. Yeah, there's a, there's the Voltmase Video Master database games computer comes with what looks to be either a pack of punch out gum or pills. Yeah. And this, this machine, this, whatever this is, this is pretty incredible. That looks awesome. Can you click on what that machine was so that we can see what, again, listener, I wish you could be here with us. You are here with us. I'm good where you guys are.

The Voltmase database games computer was a second generation games console first sold in the UK in 1980. It used the 1292 advanced programmable video system family all of which use a different shape or size cartridge.

Crazy. So wait, what am I looking at? Is the cartridge like that plain milk colored box? Milk colored is correct. That's very milky looking. Yeah, it has to be. I wonder what this little punch-out thing is.

I wonder if that is like red within the cartridge. Can you zoom in on it so that we can see what it says? Okay. It's a, it's for, oh, it's maybe for your inputs. It goes for the controller. Yeah, yeah. So the cartridge. So that's like an overlay.

Oh, that sucks. Okay, never mind. I remember that from like the Intellivision where it had a similar sort of thing because you basically have like a numpad. that you would put it overlay that would have the... So the only thing the Video Master has going for it is it looks like every cartridge is completely generic in like the Clockwork Orange Universe.

Yes. Other than that, it is not a remarkable format. What a bummer. The Video Master had a 43 bytes of memory and was capable of displaying four single color sprites. So just think of how limited that was You have four sprites on screen They can each be one color

Yeah Matt can you scroll back up one more time To the I think it's the Keep going Oh no we went too far There it is The Phillips Video Pack

Magnavox Odyssey 2 Also seems to have an interesting Format Which is a cartridge That also has a built-in screen at the top of the cartridge itself. Is it a screen or a handle?

Good Lord, I don't know. It looks like it could be a handle. It looks like, like, empty space behind that. Wait, how big is this? It does look like negative space. Is this the size of a briefcase? Yeah. Yeah.

You have to like slam it in. What the fuck? It's crazy. Let's see. I guess I don't know how large these cartridges are

but it does it does appear like it was a handle yeah okay yeah you have to chunk it like into a fucking computer S tier

this thing this thing is the size of a human hand and has like a toolbox handle built into the top of the cartridge so you can smash

it into your computer and then and then rip it out that's wild So the Philip's video pack was the MagnaVox Odyssey, too. It was the exact same thing. Yeah. So I'm familiar with the Magnobox Odyssey, too.

I'm not familiar with the video pack, but it's the same thing. I don't know if you can understand this listener, but what we are giving us tier to is the weirdest, coolest formats. It's that, yeah, so far it is a triangle that you place on top of a console and then something that you have to jam. All right, let's keep moving here. moving, because yeah, a lot of these are just like basic, you know, cartridge-shaped things. We get to the Colico Vision, which is a colorful cartridge with nice art on the outfront, but it's still just cartridges, cartridges, cartridges. Yeah.

The Vectrax, one of the cooler systems I've always wanted to, you know, to own, but there's nothing particularly notable about its cartridge itself. Yeah. The Vectrix had a built-in monitor, and it was that was kind of, you know, that was kind of, you know, that was a tall screen form factor and it had vector graphics, which is the kind of thing that, like, looks so much better

than the very limited, you know, pixel graphics of the day. Oh, yeah. Yeah, this, I mean, it was just... I saw one of those at the video game museum. Yeah, it's fucking cool as shit. All right, before we zoom past it, I want to shout out the original Nintendo Famicom

cartridges, which are elegant and very beautiful. Like, if you look at the Japanese Famicom Cam cartridge, like if you look at the Zelda cartridge, it's a really beautiful piece of art on the front. It's a nice form factor. I prefer the Famicom carts to the American Nintendo cartridges, and I'm not saying that to be specific or contrarian.

Yeah. Like, pull up Legend of Zelda Famicom cartridge and just look at this beauty. Look at this beast. No, it definitely looked better just as the box art. was better in this era. I mean, this is, this is, you know, Megamandi or example there. The Legend of Zelda Famicom cartridge is a green cartridge with excellent anime art and a sort of inviting Studio Ghibli font on the Legend of Zelda logo.

It looks like something you want to play. It looks great. I will say that I think the specifically the NES, the North American NES release of the Legend of Zelda, which was a. gold cartridge did look very cool and it had equally like exciting and special and it had really appealing art like like you know art on the cartridge itself but that was not the case for all these here's the main thing the famicom was consue was superior to the nes uh cartridges as a as a as a game delivery mechanism his software was far superior because the famicom

fucking worked and the NES didn't. The NES was always broken because it was a slot loader as opposed to a top loader. And so it collected so much dust and debris that the everyone who had one remembers blowing in it, which actually made things worse. But it was like the way to dislodge any sort of dust or or fuzz that was in, you know, affecting the pins there. Or, you know, having all your tricks for like wiggling it or having that the, uh, the, the, you know, the console be upside down just because of the poor design of it slot loading.

and so like I for me the NES cartridge is like maybe a D just because it was just because it didn't fucking work it was so unreliable and you have games that just would be broken or your console itself would be broken and that was just like a fatal design flaw I will say that if we are we are saying that that the Nintendo gets to be judged based on execution of the media all of these other systems we have no idea if any of these ever work. Well, I did, look, I didn't have an Atari 2,600, but my grandparents did. And so I played a lot of games on Atari 2,600 when I was visiting them. That did not have the same sort of issues that the NES did. Like, just as a direct one-to-one comparison. Yeah. And certainly our family NES had more wear and tear than that Atari 2,600 that was just there to entertain the grandkids.

But like, I'll say that Nintendo, it was much less functional. It validates you by when they redesigned the NES. Yes. They made a top load, yeah. But all that said, what do we actually, I guess we should just probably think of these things visually. I do think the Famicom looks better, and I would put that one above the NES,

if we're just judging by looks itself. I put that in an A tier. Yeah, put them in the A tier. And I put the NES cartridge in a C tier. All right, that's fine with me. I can I'm good with that. All right, great. All right, let's keep going.

We've got the Sega SG-1000. As a Sega kid, I don't even know what the fuck that is. not my machine not my machine you've got the epic super lady cassette vision

oh we've talked about the SG 1000 before yeah we've seen this thing oh yeah we have seen this was a this was a very early Sega effort that had a little joystick controller

but guys can we talk about the epic super lady cassette vision yeah what does this machine look like yeah you got a you got pink All of them are pink. Pink cartridges released in Japan in 1985 aimed at the female gamer market

and the console and carrying case were bright pink. Come on. It sold poorly. Hmm, go woke, go broke, I guess. Yeah. But it doesn't seem like they went completely woke because it was bundled with a game called Milky Princess.

I do like the pink cartridge. It's really cool. I do like it. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, a real, like, a real, sort of, uh, sour pink. Yeah. But, boy, I love the name Epic Super Lady Cassette Vision. It's pretty good. Fuck.

I do like that. Um, which, where should we go next? There's too many of these. We can't do all of these. We're not, we're not, we are doing, we've been doing all these. Hold on. We need the fucking Sega My card. We didn't speak about the Cassio PV 1,000.

Hold on. What is there just, what does it? Guys, hold on. The Sega MyCard was something that you could slot into the Sega Master System. You could either slot in cartridges or cards into the Sega Master System. And I believe the cards were cheaper, which for a time when you could purchase a game per year. Yeah. Maybe the card.

Yeah, did this make it to the U.S.? I know that the master system accepted cards because I had a master system. Got it. I can't remember. My friend had a master system. I remember. Here we go. I remember interest in like cartridges, but it can be wrong.

Outside of Japan, there was a third version released in 1986, marketed as the Sega card for use on the Sega Master System, the international version of the Mark 3. I had a game called Ghost House, which was on card. It was on plain card. Whoa. So as the authority, did you like the card or did you like the cartridge? I liked both of them, but the card felt neat. Okay. Because it felt strange.

Let's put the card up a little higher than. Like, also, it felt way too small. You're like, how does a game come out of this? Yeah, that is crazy. The cartridge made sense because you're like, oh, games are inside this. But a card, you're like, where's the game coming from? Where are we thinking? B?

Put it in B. Put it in B. Okay. I like a game card. Okay. 7800 we should rate it was it was big enough where it's it's worth uh you know it's worth acknowledging i don't know i'd put it in b or c it's kind of fucking whatever wow the you like the atari 20 is 7800 control i mean it's just like no i don't i don't give a shit about it but i am gonna say i'm gonna push really hard for the next one you know put the 7800 in d who gives a shit yeah

we gotta have some stuff in the lower tier yeah fuck that the second master system cartridges what makes them fascinating is that they were forcibly exactly the same. They were visually identical. There were no special carts. There was no legend of Zelda green cart, legend of Zelda gold cart. They were black carts with a red border

and the name of the game had to be in the same font. Oh, I do remember this. Yes, yeah. I remember this specifically. As a standardized play system, they were so much more boring than when I would see people with Nintendo cartridges

and I'd be like yours is gold and they'd be like well yours comes in a card and I'd be like yeah but yours is gold so I want to put the second master system cards

solidly in C tier as someone who likes to organize libraries I did like that they were uniform that's true I like to organize libraries too that's true all right what's next we should talk about

the Famicom Disc System this is a thing that never made it state side S tier It's so cool. Yeah, put it in the ice tier. It's just this big ass yellow like fucking floppy disc looking thing. It's so great.

It's so cumbersome. It's so unnecessary. It rocks. It was a, yeah, it looked like a 3.5 discette often would have expanded music libraries. So if you play the legend of Zelda on Nintendo disc system, the soundtrack is better. Yeah. And that one was, that's what Mother debuted on, right? That wasn't it on the Famicom Disc System initially?

Yeah. Wow. Look at that Sega card. Look how good that looks, though. Very cool. It's a cool looking thing, man. Commodore 64 game system. I don't remember the Commodore 64 game system.

We had a Commodore 64 computer at her house. Was this a separate console or is this a thing that was an expansion? No, this was actual console that was built on Comptor 64 guts. It was introduced. And UK and European markets only. Got it, got it, got it. Yeah. That cartridge is ugly to me.

Yeah, a little hideous there. And so is the Armstred G. 4,000 I think I think part of what we're running into here is that I think maybe whoever's I mean this site's very comprehensive but there's a little bit of like it's a console

isn't it? Like we're getting a lot of like European stuff that we're maybe we're less familiar You're gonna fucking sit here and tell me that the dandy was a big fucking deal dandy? Boy, it's a dendie It's a fucking dandy isn't it? All right let's go to the fourth generation now here's one

I always coveted. I always thought was cool. My friend had at Turbographic 16 that releases the NECPC engine in other territories I again going back the cards the Hugh card I thought was so fucking cool and they were so fucking little and I just I

to me I would put the Hugh card up in A or maybe not S tier but I put those up in A tier Put it in A tier. Cards should be in A or B tier. Yeah here we go that's a that's solidly an A Yeah the Mega Drive cartridge for Genesis

I like that they were black. Pretty nice. Pretty slick looking, I got to say. They're very cool looking. Yeah, and this continues Sega's tradition from the master system in black cartridges. So if you like a black cartridge, you know, that's a solid B or an A tier cartridge. Okay, now here's where we get into things. Because we have our first just straight up CD.

The PC engine and the Turbographic 16 had a CD expansion, which, you know, you You know, games like E's and Lunar, I believe, were first on the Turbographic 16 that had these animated sequences that were pretty stunning for the era and some, you know, like orchestrated music. I can't remember if they had speech or not. I think some of them did have some limited speech. This is the first entry of a CD form factor. Are we going to rate each CD individually? We're just going to say, where CDs drink? I think CDs.

Okay. So CD as a game format, I think are S tier. Because it was so consequential and also I just like looking at a CD. I think it's a cool look at that. I think a CD is S-tier and I also think that it was such a staggering leap. Yes. Like suddenly having full orchestras in your living room, suddenly having video on your games was crazy. Well, you're going from like eight megs to like 700 megs.

It's like a gigantic gulf between the bulkiest cartridge. Boy, I love our S-tier. triangle briefcase Nintendo disc and CD ROM Yeah All are top shapes

Pretty really Man some of the best shapes are up there Yeah Okay so all CDs Are S tier Yeah Atari Links is

D tier Yeah put that down there The Atari Links Partridges were too large Oh basically Atari's aesthetics in general

We're pretty I'll say their logo I like their logo But I think a lot of their hardware and software is pretty unappealing. But up next on this list is the original

Game Boy cartridge. Love those cartridges. Which are both pleasant to hold, pleasant to look at, and at the time if you didn't have a Sega Master system were shockingly small. Yeah. I will say too

fun to insert. A lot of fun to insert. The act of inserting a Game Boy cartridge into a Game Boy is is satisfying in and of itself. 100%. You get like a little chunk. Yeah.

I think that could go in S. I'll start out there. I mean, I wouldn't go that far, but... Yeah, I'd put an A tier. Okay. I'd put the original Game Boy cartridge in A tier. Excellent format. All right, let's keep going.

Let's keep going. All right, Super Famicom, Super Nintendo. We have to handle these differently. The Super Famicom were sort of rounded, beveled, and the Super Nintendo were these big blocky chonkers. I like the Super Famicom. Big blocky chonkers, isn't it? Yeah.

I like the Super Famicom hardware and software better. I think it just was like much more aesthetically appealing. I didn't like the way, I mean, like I have nostalgia for it, but I didn't like the way they redesigned the Super Nintendo for Western markets. And so I would put the Super Famicom. I'd put that probably an A, and then I'd put the Super NES, maybe in C. I think they're kind of ugly.

I don't know. Does anyone want to argue with me? No. No, but the way I have it, I only have it the one. So I'll grab the other one later. So I'll just put this one in A. We'll placeholder. We'll know where it's going.

I'm going to push for the next format to be S-tier. And that's the Neo-Geo cartress. Hell yeah. The reason being, they were enormous. They were so fucking big. Their size of like VHS tapes. They're larger than their, larger than a full switch.

Yes, yeah. That's so... Hard-bound books. And they cost like $250 a piece in like 1995 money. It's insane. They could put... You could line up four Genesis cards side by side to be the size of a Neo-Geo cartridge. That's nuts.

Knowing that they existed and were out in the world and never actually seeing them except in like a game magazine. Yeah. Like, you would see them being... like held in a game magazine and you'd be like what is what am i looking at what is strong manner holding it up where do we think we're putting this ass we're all the way of the fucking up there put it in an ass i got i still want a neo geo i'll never not want a neo geo i i used to covet like magician lord so bad it's like oh that looks so fucking cool these games are so big and

they're so expensive yeah it's got to be good because the console costs like eight hundred which adjusted for inflation is probably $2,000 at least. Absolutely fucking bad shit. Where to next? The Sega Game Gear. Second Game Gear. Now here was a, I think, this is also an A-tier game cartridge. Here's why.

One, it's black. Two, it was more ergonomic than the Game Boy games. There was a slight lip to the game. top of the cartridge, which made it easier to pull out of the back of a portable system. Go ahead and look at it. Look at that, look at that little game. You see that lip? So easy to pull in and out.

Yeah, that's pretty nice. You need something like that. It was excellent. Excellent little cartridge. I mean, the Game Boy cartridge has a little bit of a little thumb. Yeah, it's got like a thumb. Yeah, it does very functional as well. I'm pushing for them to be identical.

Okay. Not above. I mean, Game Boy is clearly better than the game. gear overall as a system. What the fuck are you talking about? But the game gear, I mean, almost in every single way, it's better. It had a color screen the game gear did. But it's just like, and it was lit.

Yeah, and so you'd get like 40 minutes of battery life. Yeah, it ran on, and it ran on 20 batteries. I am quitting the show. We're going to defend the Sega nomad next? What are we doing? I will defend any Sega product. Okay, there's the Super Nintendo separate. Yeah, we can put that way.

I think that's probably in C. I mean, honestly, it might mean D. It looks like shit. It kind of looks like it. It sucks. I have so many great memories

of playing Super Nintendo games and just never really love the cartridge aesthetic. Yeah, it's an ugly. Put it in D. Holy shit. No, put it in C. It's not D.

Here's where I'm struggling. Yeah. It is nicer than the NES cartridges to me. I like it more, but they can't, so they're in the same one. So I think. that maybe the NES cartridge gets bumped down.

Well, they look like they come from the same design aesthetic. Yeah, I don't know. I think they kind of belong together. Okay, they can be together. Honestly, looking at them next to the master system cartridge, the master system cartridge is a B compared to those two. It's kind of true. Because like the master system at least had like, I don't know, it was trying something.

All right, bump it up. Who cares? Bump it up. Well, here's the thing, Nick, we do care. I'm having fun. Let's keep going. We do care. And then, yeah, there's Neo Geo CD as well.

A whole bunch of CD. What about the laser active L-D-ROM? Okay, so we've got to talk about the laser disks. Let's fucking go. Here's my argument. Laser disks are big CDs. CDs are S-tier, so that means later discs are also S-tier. Yes.

Yes. I think laser discs are so fucking cool. They're so cool and they're so fucking dumb. Yeah. You ever watched a movie on a laser disc player? Yeah, I remember I watched the original Star Wars on a laser disc. It's so great because you watch Star Wars on laser disc and you have to flip the you have like it's two discs that you have to each flip yeah so you're like you get to like a pivotal

and it just stops movie just stops that you just have to flip it over gentlemen child heather begged her parents for a laser disc player yeah my parents found a used laser disc player i don't even know how you find used stuff back then and they bought me a son a used Sony laser disc player so that i could watch movies on laser disc and they were like what is this and i was like it's like a record player but a CD the first movie they got me

was Jurassic Park and widescreened oh nice and it was a religious experience like even now it's not as high resolution as a DVD

but it was so much better than a VHS tape that it felt like you were at the movies especially because you could see the whole picture oh man I loved my laser disc player

it was a combination the viewing experience that I had was really cool because it was a combination laser disc projector sort of thing so it was like it was just really really cool I follow a lot of people on TikTok who are just doing that there's a guy who's like

they're all clinically insane there's a guy who was like a mint condition Sony basement with like the high like a Sony projector from like 1985 that at the time cost like $70,000 and now doesn't matter to anybody. And it's got a format for movies that I've never seen,

which is like a cartridge with a disc inside of it. Whoa. Like a 1980s mini-disc except maxi-disc. Wow. And it's watching the guy, like, load these things in and play, like, Star Wars on formats I've never heard of. That's so nice. I love it.

Okay, so we get a few more CDs. We shouldn't skip past these. I mean, we should acknowledge that we have these scroll up a little bit. We have the Sega Saturn. Yeah, we have the Sega Saturn, you know. We have the 3DO, which was also the Commodore Amiga CD32. The Sega 32 or the Sega CD, like all these cartridge. But we should pause at the Atari Jaguar, which is one of the more hideous console designs of all time.

And I think that the cartridges is equal. I have a pick pulled up of the Jaguar with the Jaguar CD attachment, a controller and a cartridge library. Look at this. Puk City. Yeah. That fucking ugly as shit. This cartridge looks like a video game cartridge that has like a discarded Mastacholi on the top of it.

Yeah. The thing about the Jaguar that sucks is that it looks like what the worst guy you know thinks is fucking awesome. Yes, yeah. It's fucking sick as hell. It's fucking black with some red highlights. Yeah, we could blast rails right on top of this fucking thing. That's fucking awesome.

It's awesome. Is this our first F tier? This looks awful. It looks like a. like a paper towel roll or well it's like fucking it's ugly yeah I put an F dear

why not fuck that fuck the Atari Jaguar yeah then we have the yeah of course then the interesting thing about this list is that it has then like memory cards which I didn't yeah I think they're kind of a different thing for purposes Sony PlayStation

CDROM of course goes with CDs Sega 32X the 32X cartridges were identical to the Genesis cartridges from the outside so I don't think We need to rewrite them. Okay.

I mean, they're slightly different, but not super different. We have to talk about this one. All right, Virtual Boy. Let's go. Listener, the Virtual Boy cartridges were wide and flat and small. They were a strange shape, larger than the Game Boy cartridge, smaller than a Super Nintendo cartridge. And they only were on the shelves for less than a year. like a fucking elf

that walked into a game company and then walked away. I love the virtual boy and there is no way that that cartridge belongs anything higher than B tier. All right, great. What?

Nick just wants to get out of here. Let it live and be. You made your impassioned case. I think that you're the authority. You're the one who owns a virtual boy. Cassio Loopy. Yeah. We can't abide by

We can't abide by this. The next big one then would be the Nintendo 64 cartridge. Now, I do like the Nintendo 64 cartridge. And I believe this was one that was like standardized globally. I do think this one is like the best of the Nintendo cartridges. I don't know. I mean like it's it's nice and blocky. It's rounded at the top.

It's not too big. It conformed to the shape of the Nintendo 64. Yes, it looks very appealing when it was in the console itself, which is an important qualifier. I do think it might take a ding because it comes at a time when everybody else had moved on to CD. Right, sure. And Nintendo stubbornly stomps their foot and says, no, we're doing cartridges. The one thing that it had, the one big advantage that it had at the time is that, you know, most of these CD drives were like 1x, 2x, 4x. They were very, very slow.

And you were dealing with punishing load time. And so it was refreshing, even though you were dealing with all these other deficiencies to load up a thing, something in a carter space format and just get right into it. Yeah, you turn on Mario 64 and it starts. Yeah, and then you don't have to wait for load times in between levels and all that shit. I mean, like some of the, like the Saturn port of, there were like some Saturn fighting games where you'd like it would be a loading, like a character coming on screen and a fighting game would be a, would be a, separate load and it was just like it was so so tedious so where are you going to put that uh mario 64 cartridge are you putting that in a tier um yeah i think you can live up there with a game boy nick i defer to you all right great let's keep going okay after that we have

what's what's the next big one that jumps out god i forgot about the game dot com holy fucking shit how could you forget it it's your electronic tiger electronics Game.com, click on that some bit, real quick. So this was a portable controller, I believe. Yes, this was a handheld, and it just absolutely flopped. Tiger was making all these cheap sort of single function games. Like, it would just be an all in one piece of hardware that would play one, like, one, like, word puzzle game that would retail for, like, $30. Game.com had internet capability in a handheld format and had a larger,

black and white screen, then the Game Boy with a touchscreen. So they were throwing everything at the wall with this thing and it absolutely flopped in every direction. Wow. Yeah, I mean, it was a dial-up connection is the whole thing, so. Oh, yeah. I'm, I was picturing Wi-Fi. I'm like, wow,

that's crazy. I'm like, no, that wasn't a thing then. Imagine having to plug your portable system into a landline. The NeoGeo Pocket, Pocket, Color. I think these cartridges are pretty cool looking. Yep. Very nice. Yeah. Yep.

S&K logo on there, nice and rounded. Very sleek. Yeah, a gray color way similar to the Game Boy. Yeah. But I don't know. I feel like those are a Fine Link B entry. Yep. All right, let's keep going here.

Yeah, Game Boy color, same cartridge format. We don't need to retread this. Let's talk about the Wonder Swan. Hell yeah. Wonder Swan cartridges were very similar to what the Game Boy advanced cartridges would be, but slightly wider. I've demonstrated the Wonder Swan here in your company. That's right.

I think that this is an A-tier cartridge. They look really cool. They're cool little, they're little guys. I'm like kind of a wide guy. Oh, wide guy. Yeah, when it's wide? Tiger Wideger? Hey, you know, that might be my new name.

When it's wide, I'm on board. The wider, the better I say. When you're wide, when it's wide, you say let's ride. That's right. What else? What else? I thought that was good. So, yeah, both the WonderSwan and the WonderSwan color, very similar cartridges and very, very fun to play with, very fun to hold.

A format that was not released here in the United States was the Nintendo 64 DD. Yeah, similar to the Famicom Disc Drive. It just did not make its way stateside allowed for some more expansive games. Fucking rules. Yeah. Look at that fucking format. God damn. It's awesome, yeah.

Put it in the AT. We don't deserve it here. You know what we're not doing here. We're not really digging in on PC form factors at all, which is fine. We don't need to get into it. We could make this be the console format list. That's fine. But, like, so many of the games I played as a kid were on three and a half inch floppy disks, you know.

And so that's a format I think about a lot. I mean, before that, there were five and a quarter floppy disks. My dad's Commodore 64 did have some cartridges and some. I feel like there was a tape trick. drive, although it was very young. And so I don't remember playing any games off of the tape drive, but they did exist. But I guess we're not really covering any of those. But just the invocation of the disc formats is reminding me of three and a half inch discs. The thing about PC games is that once they started getting bigger in that sort of interregnum before CD-ROMs took over and

fully consumed the marketplace and when games were being released on dual format, because not everyone had CD drives, some of those games that would be like nine floppy. discs because they had so much and they were just compressed to shit so they'd take forever to install. Yeah. But it was kind of a fun process of like getting a new game and then in the same way you get a new console and you download the updates and there's kind of some

fun to it of just like getting a new game and like I'm putting these seven discs in one at a time and waiting for each of them to install. Yeah. And then the game doesn't work and then I get to figure that out. You know, it's like, oh, I put the sixth disc in front of the fifth one. Well, you couldn't fuck up like that. Usually that would detect that. We're almost

to my favorite game format of all times. So I'm really excited as we near, as we near terminal destination here. The Sega Dreamcast GD ROM is just a CD-ROM. Yeah. And the way you know this is that you could burn... God damn ROM. You could burn Sega games to a regular CD. The Sony PlayStation 2 CD-ROM and the Sony PlayStation 2 DVD.

DVD is the first, this is the first DVD format. I do think GD-ROM should have its own slot. Oh. Because it did have more capacity. It was a one gig capacity CD, and it was, you know, they had, I believe it had, it was like a double density format. Like you could write to the disk twice, basically. It would just pack in effectively twice as much, not quite, twice as much storage data.

So I think by virtue of it being Sega and it being a disc format, it did allow for some slightly more expansive games. So if we're putting CD and Laserdisc in S, I think the GD ROM should belong in the S although it would be kind of funny to put it in A just for being Sega. We'll put the,

if we're going to put the GD ROM in S, then we're also going to have to put DVD in S. Yeah, DVD absolutely belongs in S. The reason GD does belong in S is that it was easily copyrightable. You could easily pirate those games. DVD? DVD goes in S also.

Yeah. DVDs are good. DVD was around for a while. I mean, yeah. It was also like you started to have these formats be standardized across different platforms. That was nice. The Game Boy Advance, okay. This is an insane choice, by the way.

The image that is attached to this, the Game Boy Advance game that they picked is Sonic Advanced. It's just not the choice I would make. thing. I did like these guys, again, very wide. Yeah. If it's wide, it's all right. The, I like that they were wide

and they were easy to insert and take out. Yeah. I love the Game Boy Advance Carthage. Game Boy Advance cartridges look like candy. They should be eaten. I like it. Yeah. And they were little. Do we, what are we thinking? A or S? What are we talking about here? I will put it in

an S tier, but I expect no pushback on the greatest format of all time. I can't wait to hear what it is Let's keep going I'm putting it in S We'll see GameCube The GameCube disc is little

It's a strange little guy F tier F fucking sucked What? It sucked Why did it suck? Because it was not Like it looked cool

But I mean like It like that it was a little good But it had like A way less storage Than a DVD And the only reason they did it Was Nintendo stubbornness Of like well we don't want our

Games to be You know like We want to have some proprietary format that's not easily piratible. He puts it an F here. I don't know. I didn't have GameCube so I can't speak to it. I will say, I think it's dumb.

It looked cool. I guess we're just judging on looks and that's mostly what we're doing. Then I guess it's higher because it was like a little CD. It looked so fucking cool. But it pissed me off. Put it in B. All right, fine. Put it in B?

It's in between where it should be up in S tier because it both looks cool and is a disc. I have a complaint about it. And I think the complaint will can safely lodge it in C. Oh my God. The complaint is the cases that they came in are the same size as DVD. I think small disc should have been smaller cases. I agree. You could add cute little cases.

Excellent complaint. Doesn't make any sense. It goes in C tier. I think we should add a tier and it should go in G tier. Wow. Proprietary tier for a proprietary format. Wow. These are all, so many of these are proprietary.

Should I add a G? Yeah, add a G tier. What the fuck? And just put the GameCube. No, at least add a P tier. For proprietary. I think it's G for GameCube. I'll put it in G.

It's in there all by itself. It's in there all by itself. All right, let's keep going on. Let's keep going here. How about the Nokia Engage card? Who gives a shit? Who gives a shit? Yeah, fuck that.

The Nokia Engage. I wanted to engage so bad. You did? Because I was young enough that I thought it was cool. Yeah. Because what? That was like 2003. 2004 I was a teenager

So like I was like wow It's a phone and I can play games That's awesome It hadn't happened yet But I quickly learned that it wasn't Wasn't great Okay I love the DS and DS light I think it's just like those

And DSI I mean they're all using the same sort of thing But those little cards are really fun They're little They're really fun Easy to lose I gotta say That's a good point And that could be a case to bump them down A little bit

Yeah, I mean, I could see, I think it could go safely and B. Yeah, let's put them to B. B is good, is good for it, because you can, you know, they're getting lost between couch cushions, you know, they could get vacuumed up. There might be too little. Yeah. All right. I think this is what you were driving at, Heather, the PSP UMD. Is this what you wanted to make a case for?

S tier. It's crazy that you thought there was going to be any pushback about this. It is, it is the best one on the list. It is the coolest format for games of all time. It might need its own tier. All right, make an S-plus. The UMD, like, first off, nothing felt more futuristic in, what was this? 2003?

Whenever this fucking thing came out, 2004, like, a tiny disc inside of its own little protective case, so it doesn't get scratched? Holy shit! Like sister to the minidisc? It's really great. It's impossibly loud. Unless you get one that just had Shrek on it. Just watch the movie Shrek.

I still have my reign of fire, UMD. My PSP came with two God of War video games, Chains of Olympus and Ghosts of Sparta. One of them was digital. One of them was on UMD. And it came with the film Kickass on UMD, which I then immediately watched on the PSP. In 2004, watching a movie in your hand like that was. Like to be on an airplane and throw in a movie on your little handheld guy, I thought, God, I thought for sure it was going to win. Because your other option was to buy a, like a specialized portable DVD player, which was not super functional outside of, you know, just travel.

What is this? What is the VTEC V flash? This seems like it's like a thing for kids. Yeah, but it looks awesome. Yeah. I don't remember this at all. Wow, this looks awesome. aimed at children, ages 6 and up.

So the cartridge looks like a Pac-Man ghost. It is a hard format protecting a CD inside. Yeah. Wow, it's a CD-Roman, a special caddy that help protect the disc from scratches and fingerprints caused by careless handling by children. It is a really cool format. I got to say, real quick, just to shout out the website that we're pulling this from, the obsoletemedia.org website is very comprehensive. It has a lot of great information.

credible resource unbelievable wow yeah this is great it's an edutainment based sort of thing i mean cd inside of a ghost goes in a tier for me so wait we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna rate it uh i'll put it i'll put it in the a why not cd inside of a ghost i like the way i like the way it looks it looks fucking awesome uh the rest of these yeah we're now we're in the blu-ray yeah i think blue ray also has to go an s yeah why not i mean i guess we could we could compare the discs against each other and probably decide some in terms of relative import but I don't know they were all pretty impactful in their own way

I guess the Blu-ray was maybe the one that was just the maybe you can make the strongest case for that not being an S just because it was so incremental and because also you're entering into the era where both these games are all coming you know a lot of these games are being available digitally but it doesn't look right to slot it into A no just fucking leave it in S

we'll put it, we'll leave it in an ass all right let's keep up the Vita game card this was too small Two, this is... These were too small. Yeah. And they were such a step back from UMD. I know that they have an enormous amount of space on them and everything.

They're too small. D tier. Vita in the D. Vita in the D. Vita, Vita the system, S tier. Vita the games. Yes. Oh, absolutely.

No question. Nintendo 3DS sort of same problem as the DS one, but it's a little bit bigger still than the Vita ones. We have DS and B. Even by 3DS, I feel like I was, I mean, I had some physical 3DS scans, but I was not buying a lot of these digitally. Yeah, yeah. We could put this in C. Yeah, sure, that's fine, me.

Put it in C tier. Then we're just at the, okay, like the switch cartridge, the switch cartridge actually too small, but. Too small. It has funky taste if you put in your mouth, and so that's so you don't eat it. Yeah, I guess the funky taste could maybe put it a little bit higher than a C. I don't know. I think that's maybe a C tier as well with the Vita.

But you also have like the neat cases for the Switch games. The cases were cool. The cases do. I mean, if we're evaluating that, that pluses it up a little bit. The good cases with a strange taste. I can go and see and it's not the cartridge's fault necessarily. There's a Sonic bias on this website. Because why would the Switch game be like not a Nintendo game but Sonic Mania?

It don't make no sense. They're having fun. They're having a lot of fun. They're having, maybe they're having a bit of a laugh. Now we're at the Ultra HD Blu-Rays. Now, this is too incremental and it cannot be in there. Yeah, whatever. Nothing.

We don't need to rate the Ultra-HD Blu-Rays. Yes. Those are like the PS5 and current Xbox Jens. So then the last physical format is the Switch 2 cartridge. Switch 2 cartridge, and there are two different ones. There is the regular base one that has the games on it, which is I think maybe C tier also because it's the same thing

but it's red honestly red might bump it up to blue or to be to B tier if I'm being honest the red color is pretty good but then they have also they also have cartridges that are game key cards

that don't have a game on them but have a digital license on it those are F tiers those are F for sure that's an F tier and then what we don't have on here of course is digital which is a format

if we have to think about it's not a physical format, but it's a format nonetheless. I don't. I think we can say these are physical console formats that we're evaluating. I think that's the way to think of this. I've got to be honest, looking at all of this obsolete media, I thought there was going to be weirder formats. And these are surprisingly standardized. Did you forget about

the triangle? I didn't forget about triangle, but all the stuff in S-tier, triangle, a briefcase, Nintendo disc, laser disc, all of these. are unique, but everything below it is cartridge. They found a few sort of standard formats. And just things started just falling into it, not uniform, but just like some general

buckets, like cartridge or card or disc. And then that ended up how everything just kind of shook out. I'm really happy with the UMD up in S-plus. Me too. That's probably the happiest time about all of them. I feel like we could reread what these are. but it would be very hard because some of them

are very unfamiliar to us. You have UMD and S plus tier. You have triangle. You have briefcase. You have Nintendo Famicom Disc Drive games. You have CD. You have NeoGeo cartridge.

You have Laserdisc, GDROM, DVD, Game Boy Advance, and Blu-Rays all in S-tier. In A-tier, you've got a MagnaVox original. You have some kind of weird milky cartridge.

I cannot believe you're doing this. You have some other kind of cartridge. You have Sega GameCard. You have Genesis cartridge, Game Boy cartridge, Super Famicom cartridge, Game Gear cartridge, Nintendo 64 cartridge, and Wonder Swan cartridge, as well as CD inside of a ghost in A tier. B tier is, I don't remember what this fucking thing is that Nick liked.

Atari Games, Sega card, Master System Cartridge, Virtual Boy cartridge, and Nintendo DS cartridge. C-tier, is exclusively Nintendo properties. You have the Nintendo N-E-S cartridge, the Super N-E-S cartridge,

the 3DS cartridge, and the Nintendo Switch cartridge. In D-tier, you have Atari 2,600, or is it the 76? 72. I don't know. The Atari Links... No, that was a 7800. 7800.

Links and the V-S-Vita. In F-tier, you have the Jaguar, the N-Gage, and the Switch. Game key card. And finally, in G-tier, is the Nintendo GameCube proprietary disk format. That was a waste of everyone's time. Let's do a segment. I had a good time. I had a great time. I did have fun. And I did say, are we sure we wanted, I don't know how listenable it was, but I've had a really nice hour. I don't think any of this is listenable, but it's nothing out of character for us. Let's get to our segment here. All right.

It's time for another Segment Dreamcast, folks. We're going to cast the film adaptation of the Kojima Classic, Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater. Ah, yes, Delta is on the way. Yes, this is a fan casting exercise where we will hypothetically cast a movie adaptation of a game. And, yeah, I guess we're going to do Metal Gear Solid 3. Snake Eater. So we're starting with the big guy, number one. Number one on the call sheet, Naked Snake.

You know, he's gruff. He's got a lot of Gravitas I mean voiced by David Hater You know It's definitely has a distinct look to him I honestly feel like

He's a little young Yeah But We're almost at a point Where you could put Austin Butler in a snake roll Now he might be better for a Right in

We might want to save him for that That's pretty good I just kind of feel like this is in Butler's Wheelhouse. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's tricky. Maybe we go with an older actor for this one. What about, from Death Stranding to Luca Marinelli? I mean, yeah, sure.

Why not? That's pretty good. Honestly, Austin Butler could have a great time in a lot of the roles in... Yeah, I'm to say Butler's too young, even though this is a younger snake. I think this is probably the wrong. fit for him. I just always got Butler on the brain. I mean, here's the thing. He's good.

He's good. He's really, really good. God, who's like a... He's Elvis and he's Fade Routha Harkana. He's also a master of the air. That's right. And he's a fucking bike rider. Motherfucker Lowe's riding bikes. He's got, he's basically got, we got to get this guy in a fucking boat movie and he's got all transportation locked down. Gosh.

because yeah you want sort of like a who's like a class there's I don't know if there's like a there's not a young tough guy right now we don't have like a a young sort of like I don't know who like the young action star is currently well yeah I mean this is a Hollywood problem and also just like a general sort of problem is that we're not allowing opportunities for young people or there's certain like young there's not the same sort of a class that exists among younger generally. generations. I don't know. It feels like if you were going to go for a more established guy, like Christian Bale could kind of pull off a naked steak, you know. Isn't Christian Bail too old at this point? He probably is too old. But I mean, I'm just like in terms of having the look, in terms of having that sort of beard, I think you could, I think you could pull it off. What about this? Maybe he's too young too. What about Superman? All right, let's throw Superman in there. What about, yeah, David Cornswet? He is too young, but he's hot as shit. Yeah. And I'd like to see him.

with a beard. Yeah, I'd love to see him with a beard. In fact, I'm looking at a beard right now. I'm looking at what I see. Henry Cavill? Yeah. Cavill might be too big, is the thing. Ah, you might be too big. But Cavill might have a role elsewhere. Okay, I think we got some good naked snake options. Let's keep moving. Yeah. The boss. Now, this is, of course, you know, naked snakes mentor. This is the woman that played Dedra in Andor. That's a great pitch I was going to go

My mind goes straight for Kate Blanchett Lydia Tar herself Oh that's pretty good actually Denise Gough is it Is that you pronounce it The actor who plays Deidre on Andor She is awesome She actually is the perfect type for this as well

Yeah A couple of good options She's great Kate Blanchett Yep I would almost even throw in a Kate Winslet If we're throwing Kate's around Winslet is Because you kind of want her to be sort of like

like a teaching figure to her too, you know? You can see it. You can see it. I have a stunt cast idea. Brittany Spears. What the hell are you talking about? Didn't Britney Spears kind of like the age could play the boss? It doesn't make any fucking sense at all, dude.

Can you imagine that? Britney Spears is the boss, and then you watch the movie and she's fucking great? Yeah, but that's not going to happen. That happens. It's a performance. But we've seen her in a movie before. But I'm just saying, like, it's been playing a Britney Spears type. We haven't been like, hey, disappear into a role as the boss.

I just never heard a Nick wants to go home answer more than ever in my life. Yeah, it's not fucking Britney Spears. Nick's done. He wants it out of the fucking podcast. So do I, but I'm not answering incorrectly. I think that's a good pitch. I think if it's... No, it's not.

It's the pitch. Here's the thing. I can hear it being said. I can hear it being said, I don't know if I'd hear it being said in the year of our Lord 2025. Maybe in 2003 if they're like, if they're trying to adapt this movie when the game is new, maybe. But I don't think they're like, I don't think anybody's like, let's get Britney Spears in a movie right now. But you're not doing it for, I mean, you're doing it for like, first off, she does have a lot of people know who she is. She has a large fandom.

And I know that there's a little bit more of a, of like a regal quality of the boss that maybe Britney does. not necessarily evoked. But it's more like, hey, that's unexpected and, oh, wow. Let's see what she's going to do. Yeah, exactly. I guess I would, here's the thing. I'm seeing the movie no matter what. I'm not seeing it if Britney Spears is the boss.

The boss is 42 years old as of the events of Metal Gear Solid 3, Snake Gear. So, all right. So then moving on, we have Revolver Ocelot. So see, now this is where I think we can get Butler. You get Butler in a sort of like gun-slinging creep kind of... Yeah, how old is Oscelot in this one? I mean, certainly, you know, he's significantly older when you're seeing him in Metal Gear Solid, but that's also like much, you know, 30 years in the future.

So, okay, so if Naked Snake is Superman, we can't do this, Nicholas Holt's a great revolver Oscelot. That's a home run. Throw him in there. Nicholas Holt would be a great revolver Oscelot. I think he'd have a lot of fun with that. Yeah, he'd be perfect for it. He looks just like him.

Yeah, he's got the same eyebrow arch. Fuck it, one and done. Yeah, that's great. We don't need anybody else. You sure you don't want to have Britney Spears play this, too? I also kind of think that Nicholas Holt could also be Naked Snake. Like, he's like a very versatile actor. He's very good.

Interesting. The thing is there's just like so much, like, not in the same movie because there's so much, like, clones and such. and that it would just confuse the lore. Yeah, of course. All right. So after Revolver Ocelot, who's next? We have Colonel Vulgan, who's the electric man. Right.

Now this, you go somebody who's like a heavy, like a classic sort of like big tough guy for sure. He's already, I mean, yeah, I mean, he's kind of already in the Kojima ecosystem via Death Stranding. I kind of almost feel like this is a mad thing. That could be a Mads. That's pretty good. It would be a Mads.

I like Mads Mickelson in that for sure. That's great. Yep. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Look at him. It's Mads 100%. He's born to be Vulgan.

He's Vulgan. Fantastic. Like, he's a little old. Yeah. Dolph Lundgren. I feel like is maybe kind of the inspiration for him. Dahl Lundgren's not really a bad pitch. That's pretty good, actually.

It's not bad. Also, not bad. Like, you could see Dolf like kind of being like, oh shit, Dolf is back. He fucking brought it as Cornwalligan. What kind of, what, what ages, uh, Dolf Lundgren pulling around right now? 67 years old.

Yeah, he's doing, he's doing great. He's, yeah. Isn't he like some kind of genius or something? He is extremely smart, yes. He, I think he has a degree in like biochemistry or something like that. And he's one of those guys who was just like, like, like, like a big brainiac. And then someone was just like, hey, man, you look like that. Yeah, yeah.

And he's like, okay, I guess I'll be a movie star. I guess I look like this. I better be in movies. Yeah. Okay, so then after Colonel Volga, Sokolov. Now, this is where I can see my man Stanley Tucci having the time of his fucking life. Ah, Tucci would crush this.

Tucci would crush this. Bushemi would crush this. Tucci would maybe have a little too much fun as the thing. Yeah. What about the guy who played John Adams? Oh, Paul Giamati? Giamati. Paul Giamati is Sokolov on the poster?

That's fucking great. Can I also say just like I have a play against type as a famously bald actor and you let him grow out the wings a little bit could be fun to have a Statham in here. Yeah, Statham doing like a true character sort of like piece.

Yeah, give him a mustache. He doesn't really have facial hair. I can see Jason in there. Yeah. Why not? But he's still trying to do like an accent. He's like, all right, here's what we're going to do. Here's what it is.

Suckalov, you're from the aisles, aren't you? I was born there. Yeah. My parents are Russian. All right, good enough. Okay, Eva. This is a tough one. Ariana Grande.

Ariana Grande would be great. I think you kind of want, gosh, Ariana Grande. I mean, here's the thing. Put her in any movie and I'm like, this is going to be great. She's really, she's just, she's extremely talented. She got star quality. She would be great in this.

How about gosh? This is the whole thing. of just like, I just don't know young people. Who's young? Ranch, who's young? Yeah, Ranch, who is this character? Yeah. I have no fucking.

You know what? We were talking about earlier. Oh, what about Sweeney? Yeah, sure. Sweeney could pull it off. Yeah, that's exactly who we want to cast right now. I was going to say, I feel like we're, you know, we'd already, again, in the, in the ecosystem, the Kojima ecosystem, and definitely a, you'd,

We were talking about her sci-fi roles earlier. I feel like L-Fanning could be a great evil. That's great. Yeah. That's great. Fanning. Get a fanning in there. Why not?

Yeah, put a fanning. Okay. Who's next? After that, we have Major Zero. Now, this is where you could have Dolph in a kind of fun. No, that's Kevin Costner. Oh, Costner as Major Zero is fucking great. Heather.

That's really. great. That's who that is, though. That's who that guy is. Kostner. Kostner has one note. He doesn't want to be Major Zero. He wants to be Major 100. All right, I guess. Yeah, sure, whatever.

And I want to be a rank higher than major. Wait, what? Costner is Major Zero. That's really fun. I don't have a note for that. That's great. Yeah, we're done. You know what's great is if you keep Costner around for Metal Gear Solid 4, he gets to be aged into this. Yeah, that's really good.

And then he's like, why did I join? He has to do that in so much work. That's really, really funny. Basically, for our audio listeners, he basically looks like when they take Darth Vader's helmet off at the end of Return of the Jedi. Wait, but I think I got one.

Yeah. I think I got one. Costner's great. But when we eventually shoot a couple of weeks and Costner walks, we get Cranston. Cranston is major zero is pretty good. Yeah, cramston is zero.

Perfect. Because then he'll have a fucking blast. Being in a pod or whatever, yeah. He'll have a great time. That's really good. Yep. Yep. Either of those older white men.

Yeah, absolutely. And then finally, we have the cobra unit, which is, of course, the fear, the sorrow, the end, the pain, the fury. I kind of have an interesting idea. Go for it. It's the same guy. Okay.

Doing all of them. That's a fun way to go. I was going to pitch. You stunt cast it. With in sync. Nick is mad at us for some reason. This is so crazy. You almost said you fuck.

I almost lunged at you. Here's a thing, it's the exact right number. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. It is fun. It would be fun. Obviously. Timberlake the mediast role.

No, no, no. No, Timberlake's the sorrow for sure. Jacey is the fear. You have Joey Fetone as the end. I don't know these names. Put Fatone in the prosthetic makeup, give him the big beard. You have the time of his life.

You have Chris Kirkpatrick as the pain, and then you have finally Lance Bass as the Fury. That's a home run. I feel like we want to see Lance Bass as pretty face. Yeah, he's gorgeous. You have to actually, you know what? He's the sorrow. And Timberlake is the pain,

and then Kirk Patrick, sorry, is the Fury. Great. That's fun. I like it. One and done. Yeah. Jesus Christ. I kind of was thinking that maybe like David Dasmashian would be a great

the pain he'd be a great bug guy great actor oh yeah he fucking rocks he's so great who's like a fun old fuck like to be the end well I think

Cranston if he's if Cossner takes zero the end could be Cranston we were talking about before the record here's the thing the end is a hundred years old yeah I think if you can get like hey Robert Duval you want to come out of retirement

you're in your 90s hey Clint East would you want to fucking like like we we are going to get a guy who is super duper old and but still can bring it and in a role that requires limited mobility yeah i mean like it would be it could be a kind of a fun swan song for someone to just come in there an older actor a legend to come in there and just ham it up a little bit either way the the when the cobra unit comes out big pop in the theater everyone's going crazy because they're just like oh my god look at all these all these big stars holy shit it's insane Sink.

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