Get Played - We Play, You Play: Dredge with Oscar Montoya

Episode Date: August 28, 2023

Oscar Montoya returns to the show to discuss Dredge with Heather, Nick, and Matt. They talk about the satisfying fishing mechanics, the creepy vibes, and dip their toes into the deep end of S...poiler Country. They also talk about the retirement of Charles Martinet, Playstation Portal, Babysitting Mama and more. Follow us on Twitter and Instagram @getplayedpod. Check out our premium series Get Anime'd on patreon.com/getplayed. Join us on our Discord server here: https://discord.gg/getplayed Wanna leave us a voicemail? Call 616-2-PLAYED (616-275-2933) or write us an email at getplayedpod@gmail.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:37 And here I am, the collector. Yes, collector, you're quite isolated here on this otherwise deserted island with your manor, but we hear that you can give us some clarity, some clues as to the reality that we live in. We fulfill some tasks for you. Yeah, we're open to anything. Of course. I understand that it is a mysterious time, but if you can present me with five relics,
Starting point is 00:02:07 then I can provide you the answers you seek. First, head into the town of Little Marrow and go to the bar on the cliffside. Okay. See if you can find a very mysterious wallet. It's a fold-over wallet. Brown on the outside. So is it like an ancient, sort of like No, no. A mariner who was marooned
Starting point is 00:02:34 centuries ago? This is a wallet from about a year and a half ago. Slightly worn. And behind the bar will be an open tab. Pay for the tab, sign the bill, and then bring me the wallet. Sorry, just whose name will the tab be under
Starting point is 00:02:55 so I know which one to do? The second, the second relic. Is it your name? Because I'm thinking it's your name. The second relic is somewhere in between the bars and the dock. The bar and the dock. Okay. That's quite a lot of ground.
Starting point is 00:03:11 A ring of keys. Three keys. A front door key, a bicycle key, and another key that's for a storage It's a storage locker at the post office. Okay. See if you can track down those keys. I just want to clarify. These are like ancient relics?
Starting point is 00:03:34 Yeah, these are like ancient keys. I'm detecting a pattern here. Nick, I don't know if you're also picking up on this. Yeah, if you're talking about... I mean, to be honest, I clocked was this was his stuff like immediately once he said wallet i should be like this is probably just his wallet and then yeah the more details what about a mysterious pocket watch frozen in time okay here
Starting point is 00:03:59 we go telling uh telling the time when it was perhaps dropped in between the bar and the docks. Okay, so it's just one of his things. It sounds like if I'm piecing this knight together, you tied one on, it sounds like.
Starting point is 00:04:19 And I guess threw your stuff all over the place? What do you even do with the 24-hour fitness? Because you're in rough shape. All right, so if you have all the answers, then perhaps you don't even need, you don't need to find any relics. Maybe you're too good for answers.
Starting point is 00:04:35 No, I need to understand who I am, why I'm here. Then bring me the wallet, the coat, the keys, the pocket watch, and my phone. My cell phone is somewhere. I think it may either be at the movie theater. Do you want to just put your number into my phone and then just call it? And maybe we'll see if it gets a clue as to where it is. All right.
Starting point is 00:05:04 It's five. No your put your number into my i'm handing you my phone there you go just put it where did it go did you type where did it go into my phone that's not gonna help it's not type in your number and then dial your number what which feet all right so what which what part of this here put the right down the number do you see the the keypad here i brought up just the numpad i can't believe this is the confusing part to you so you can this keyboard just goes away when it wants god damn it you how are you alive that's my question we fish sharks out of lava and are driven mad by the endless sea as we play. You play indie horror fishing game dredge this week on get played. Welcome to Get Played, your one-stop show for good games, bad games, and every game in between.
Starting point is 00:06:30 It's time to get played. I'm your host, Heather Ann Campbell, along with my fellow host, Nick Weiger. That's me, Nick Weiger, and I'm here with our third host, Matt Apodaca. Hello, everyone. Hello, everyone. everyone hello everyone and welcome back to the premier video game podcast where we're talking about the game that you played and we played and we all played together dredge maybe it didn't play it that's okay you can still listen don't stop listening the episode if you didn't play it yeah i don't want you to hear that and be like i didn't listen i didn't play i didn't play it and turn it off don't do that nick yeah nick nick
Starting point is 00:07:08 could could you say if i said welcome back chum bucket or welcome back bait bucket okay do you think you could just say the word dredge just say the word dredge like the way you would say edge oh that's good i forgot i used to say that yeah i could do that and can we call you dr edge for this episode uh yeah you can call me dr edge honestly indefinitely from this point forward this guy's doctor yeah well yeah he won't stop doing it yeah wait should matt change should matt be like ahoy everyone i was literally about to say should i say ahoy everyone it's pretty good it's pretty good i like that we did this part of the show and i'm gonna leave this part in and now we're gonna do it again but
Starting point is 00:07:57 different okay okay okay okay okay all right great so i'm starting oh yeah uh yeah you go first should i just say i'll just let's just do the top of the show again. Okay, great, great, great, great. The whole thing, okay. Yeah. We have a great guest, and we'll get to him. We'll get to him. I'm sorry that he has to wait through the part, but it's going to be good.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Arr! Welcome to Get Played, your one-stop show for good games, bad games, and every game in between. It's time to get played. And every game in between, it's time to get played. I'm your host, Heather Ann Campbell, along with my fellow host, Nick Weiger. That's me, Nick Weiger, and I'm here with our third host. Oh, shit. Sorry, sorry.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Hold on. I should do a seaworthy voice. That's me, the Dread Pirate, Nick Weiger, along with our third host, Matt Apodaca. We are ahoy, everyone. Ahoy, everyone, and welcome back, Chum Bucket. Dredge. That's pretty good. That's fucking good. They're fucking going crazy.
Starting point is 00:08:56 They're going nuts. They love that. People love it. Should we have done piratey names is the thing? Here's the thing. Is that a hat on a hat? We could go. We could do this all day.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Things we could have done. Things we should have done on the show. Things we should have said. You know, and I just think, yeah, maybe it's too much. But yeah, I think. Hetharg Campbell. Hetharg Campbell is good. Nick Wygarg.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Yeah. And Matt Argpadaka.aka yeah that's yeah yeah we'll just just say like we just did that we did it it's fine that's good that's good yeah pirates famously have the name arg yeah that's when i think of pirates i think of like yeah yeah it's not like you know blackbeard arg the pirate blackbe and Campbell. Okay, we're on to something. That's pretty good. Oh, how about... Oh, oh, oh. Nick...
Starting point is 00:09:53 No. Look, we're good. We did it. We're good. Yeah, Nick Warg. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fuck. Our guest is pissed.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Our guest today returned to the show. At this Fuck. Our guest is pissed. Our guest today, return to the show. At this point, I'm almost pissed. I think I'm a little mad too, if I'm being honest. No one noticed I changed my Zoom username to Dr. Edge. Our guest today, return to the show, Oscar Montana. Our guest. Our guest. That's so good.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Hi, Oscar. Welcome back. Hi. How's it going? I just noticed you're wearing a Minions t-shirt. I am. I am wearing it. Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:32 What? My Minions Emotions t-shirt. Oh, they're emotions. I see. It's like the periodic table, but of Minions Emotions. Oh, there's so many. Are they mug shots? Yeah, Nick also has one with the Trump trump uh cabinet's uh mug shots on it
Starting point is 00:10:46 it's a fundraiser yeah for what i won't say uh oscar thrilled to have you here i we we we love having you on the show and i don't know if we've talked about this in the past so if we have i apologize but i don't recall discussing your wario twisted poster, which is in your background. Yes, yes, yes. No, I have moved to a different place and I have an office now, which is very exciting. Sick as hell. And crazy. And like, whoa, adults have offices.
Starting point is 00:11:17 But the joy of putting stuff in the office is putting children's video games on your wall. Yeah. Yes, that's absolutely it. in the office is putting children's video games on your wall. Yeah. Yes. That's absolutely it. I don't use this office to do any work. So WarioWare Twisted was a game I had for Game Boy Advance. I assume you did as well.
Starting point is 00:11:42 And it had like the cartridge like, a gyromite in it, so that it detected when you would rotate it, and that sounds like, well, my phone does that these days, but back then it was a novelty. It was huge, I mean, come on, like, any game with a peripheral, and something that you
Starting point is 00:11:59 insert. Oscar. Hell yeah. Sorry, I get horny at 9 in the morning. No, that was the joy of it. I mean, that's essentially why I bought the game. Because I was like, whoa, you can put a thing in there that you can tell if it's moving or not? Yeah. And it was the first WarioWare game that I've ever played.
Starting point is 00:12:28 And because of it, I became a lifelong fan of the series. Wow. Did you like the most recent one? I can't remember the name of the subtitle. Get it together. Yeah, get it together. I did like it. It's not as good.
Starting point is 00:12:42 The pinnacle of the Wario war games is the wii version of it smooth moves um to me that's like just the best uh just the best wario war game out there but i i like the micro games i'm a big fan yeah i like figuring out how to play the game and also like beating it in 0.3 seconds it's fun it's a it's a real hoot. And I did like the Switch version. Although as more time went through. I was like. I feel like the. When I reflect back on it.
Starting point is 00:13:13 It kind of felt. Some of it felt kind of generic. Because the way it worked for people who haven't played it. Is that you had a controllable character. In every single mini game. Which was a novelty for the series, the new hook of it, but there were so many playable characters that the level had to work
Starting point is 00:13:30 for all their different play styles, so as such, they felt a little bit less like, just the weirdness of sniffing a snot bubble back into a big nose. It was less of that sort of stuff. And what I loved about WarioWare Twisted, it was all just like,
Starting point is 00:13:45 again, it was just the fun of spinning your Game Boy Advance and just how different that was from how every other handheld game played at the time. And Oscar, you were saying that you like a game with the peripheral, and that's exactly Heather's favorite thing.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Is it? Yes, it is. It's my favorite thing. In fact, i heard about a peripheral this week that i'd never heard about before and i am lightly obsessed with it oh which is uh that there was an exercise bike released for the super nes and it had two games you could play and you controlled the games by pedaling the bike. And it was a full size exercise bike. No way. And you played like a mode seven racing game where you biked on the on the bike. And they they also made so that was like a plug in peripheral. So that was like a plug in peripheral. But then they also made a full unit that stood on its own and had that monitor television built into the handlebars and and the super NES built in so that gyms could purchase this.
Starting point is 00:14:57 I think they called it. Enter what? Excerpt entertainment. Yeah. Excerpt entertainment. So, yeah, I'm lightly obsessed. Okay. I need to look at a picture of it.
Starting point is 00:15:09 With the existence of this thing. I can't imagine that there are too many left in working order after all this time. But fuck, that is a cool like. Oof. That's a. Was this only released in Japan? Did it ever make it to the States at all? I think it was definitely in the States.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Yeah, it was American. And it was, I'm looking at this right now, and it was endorsed by Arnold Schwarzenegger. Come on. Which is wild. Apparently it retailed for $800 in 1994, which is effectively the cost of a Peloton today. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:43 It's like, you like you know fifteen hundred dollars yeah the super nes uh and then the cartridge itself is on ebay for 2800 bucks since it's such a rare cart but you know if i if i spent the money on the on, I would just put a ROM cart into my Super NES. Yeah, it's such a clunky design. It is so boxy and, like, kind of... Like, it looks like if you made a dystopian, you know, movie in the 70s where, like, everyone had to ride bikes to, like, generate activities. Like, that would be the bike you would use.
Starting point is 00:16:24 It looks even dated by 1994 standards I mean I'm thinking now could Peloton have happened without this oh I don't think so great question I don't think so whoever invented Peloton I'm saying no yeah exactly
Starting point is 00:16:39 yeah no that person is like guys in the 90s there was a bike you could play with your Super Nintendo. And they're like, shut up. Nerd. I remember there was a game for the Wii called Babysitting Mama. Do you remember this? It's like Cooking Mama's, like, spinoff.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Yeah, I remember all the mama games. I didn't remember babysitting mama specifically, but it came with an actual baby that you had to like take care of. And you just shoved the Wii controller into the baby. Oh, no. Yeah. Yeah. And had to take it. The baby looked really scary.
Starting point is 00:17:22 I remember that. Okay. had to take it the baby looked really um scary i remember that okay here's the terrifying baby that uh oscar thinks is so scary it isn't it's weird looking it is weird like it is at least a plush baby i was expecting like a hard plastic baby but it is at least a it looks a little bit like it just has a lump of shit on its forehead. Yeah, that hair tuft is pretty suspect if I do say so myself. Yeah. Maybe a different color would have been the right choice
Starting point is 00:17:51 for that. Yeah. What color, Nick? Blonde? There he goes again. I'm just saying. This is a that's horrifying. I agree with Oscar. I don't like looking at that can i can i bring bring up one thing before we move on from babysitter mama just because i'm looking at the box art the box the box art is the baby it's like the the the plush baby in like a
Starting point is 00:18:16 little cradle uh and it says the first interactive baby and we game together Wii game included parenthetical, look under baby. Look under baby. Look under baby. Baby's just sitting on the Wii game. It's just a horrific sentence. It's full diaper. Look under baby. I mean, that's also like the sort of letter a serial killer leaves in your living room.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Look under baby. Oh no. Yeah. Yeah. A nightmare. Remember the, the commercial to babysitting mama was cursed. It was like a very unhinged commercial.
Starting point is 00:18:56 I remember it like freaked me out. It freaked me out. And I bought it. You bought it. You had this. I had it. I had it. And I think, uh, I played it once. It bought it. I had it. I played it once
Starting point is 00:19:08 and I was like, I don't like this. I feel very uncomfortable playing this. It was weird. I didn't like it. But honestly, I saw the commercial and was like, this is funny. I think I'm going to buy it because it's a silly game. What the fuck is this game? It's not as fun as you would think
Starting point is 00:19:23 raising a baby game should be like a tamagotchi you know it was like okay and it's not as fun as cooking mama uh is this the i'm gonna put this commercial in the chat we can maybe watch it i can't wait yes oh my god mama delivers a whole new way to play Wii with Babysitting Mama. Yay! Babysitting comes to life. Hold the baby like Mama. As you care for your lovable friend.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Perfect. Make baby smile and play. Wonderful. What a cutie. Time to burp. Pop, pop. Wow, that's great. Wow, that's great.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Like peek-a-boo and taking pictures. Ah! Play against your friends and see. Who's the greatest babysitter on your block? Babysitting Mama from Majesco. Ready for everyone. So game footage is intercut with live action shots of tween girls rocking the baby peripheral. And then there's a shaking component, which is maybe not the best thing to associate with a baby game. Yeah, you're shaking the Wii remote, but it's like it's a. Also, the baby was holding the game in the commercial. But as we all know, the game was under the baby. Yeah, look under the baby.
Starting point is 00:20:36 So false advertisement. I felt like you cheated. It sounded a little bit like NoHo Hank in Barry. Yeah, kind of. Some sort of vaguely european yeah like whoa it's baby okay hardcore i first gave ag1 a try because I was tired of taking so many supplements every day
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Starting point is 00:24:47 because they're like yeah you know we're gonna go in a different direction well there was an excellent and like a real uh sleight of hand pulled by nintendo in this announcement yeah which is that months ago we've seen the footage for Super Mario Wonder, and nobody batted an eye. Then they announced that Charles is retiring from the games, and he won't be performing the voice of Mario in Wonder. And none of us, when Wonder was released, was like, Mario sound fucking weird
Starting point is 00:25:25 to you to put that in perspective you know we had to replace a voice at Rick and Morty and there's been there's been some
Starting point is 00:25:41 there's been some you know some trepidation going into the voice, the voices that will be cast. And a trailer was released for season seven. That was all clips from previous seasons. And the Internet was furious at the sound of the new Rick and Morty. Angry as fuck. Which is, it's just pre-existing footage. Got him.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Surprise, bitch. And you know what? He's back. This is the statement that Nintendo released it's a tweet from Nintendo of America that I'm reading it says we have a message for fans of the Mushroom Kingdom please take a look very ambiguous
Starting point is 00:26:35 that's already a scary statement yes I will say thank god for you know I'm not a Mario fan but I am a fan of the kingdom so it's good that they address people like yeah they're addressing the kingdom at large not just fans of mario like i'm a goomba stan all the way i don't know about luigi and etc but come on those coin boxes hell fucking yeah and this is the statement from n Nintendo. Charles Martinet has been the original voice of Mario in Nintendo games for a long time,
Starting point is 00:27:09 as far back as Super Mario 64. Charles is now moving into the brand new role of Mario Ambassador. With this transition, he will be stepping back from recording character voices for our games, but he'll continue to travel the world, sharing the joy of Mario and interacting with you all. It's been an honor working with Charles to to help bring mario to life for so many years and we want to thank and celebrate him please keep an eye out for a special video message from shigeru miyamoto and charles himself which we will post at a future date so why not post all of this at once yeah the the delay on the video makes everything just leads to more speculation which we're doing now maybe by the time this episode is out we'll have seen the video i hope
Starting point is 00:27:49 so what is the speculation what what you what y'all thinking well there's okay there's there's you know the really there's the sad possibility that he's he's not that old but that he's maybe there's some sort of medical issue there's that the people are speculating that there's the possibility that he asked for too much money you know and that that things fell apart that way but they're still amicable because they maybe they found a i i and i think there's also just like the possibility that just creatively they were like this guy can't cut it anymore um but we want to give him a golden parachute yeah which was that he was fucking pissed off when Chris Pratt was the voice of Mario in the movie. That honestly might be it. That's like probably the most straightforward answer.
Starting point is 00:28:31 I wonder if he had to audition for the role. Like if they even, you know what I mean? If they even gave him the courtesy to be like, hey, we're thinking of you to do this. They were just like, nah, fuck off. The dude played Mario for 30 years right and then the first time it's on in movie theaters it's some other dude and then the next thing that happens is he's not going to be the voice of mario anymore like that feels to me too i mean obviously we have no evidence and it's all speculation but it feels like a really
Starting point is 00:29:06 well timed coincidence I think the nice thing is that we know he's not cancelled because if he was cancelled then he wouldn't continue to be the brand ambassador exactly yeah so that's comforting unless they're doing something really interesting yeah
Starting point is 00:29:21 the video is gonna be Miyamoto walking up to a man who's black bagged and bound to a chair and just shooting him yeah yeah you want your mario bam yeah um i can't wait for mayamoto to release his uh take on this is america music video uh the other thing i thought we should talk about because we talked about a little bit on the show is that the sony project q has been named the playstation portal uh and it's uh been announced that it will release for $199.99 this year. And according to PlayStation, or to Sony rather, it has no Bluetooth
Starting point is 00:30:09 and you have to buy a new set of PlayStation Link compatible headsets if you want to hear audio on it in headphones. It has no local play, not even media playback. No PS5 cloud streaming and it's targeting the same battery life as the DualSense controller. So this is their remote play device.
Starting point is 00:30:30 And that's... It's $200 and it kind of does almost nothing. Yeah, that sucks. This is dog shit. Well, okay. Hold on. Uh-oh. I'm going to defend a Sony peripheral that I really, really am shocked by this, Heather.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Well, I immediately texted you guys. What are they doing? And then I thought about it for a while. And here's what I'm hoping. I'm hoping that there is future up like that, that this is a Trojan horse to get future optional content in games where you use this as a second screen controller so you're playing on your television holding the playstation portal and then using the touch screen on your portal to do like menu selection or like yeah that it's that it's like almost like a Wii U or like a Nintendo DS. I can't wait for Kojima to get his hands on it.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Yeah. But if it's just literally like you're streaming to a fucking tablet with a PlayStation controller snapped on it. Yeah, that's that's a weird. That's weird. The DualSense is already so expensive and so if we're gonna say like you know hey we already have like a like a 70 80 controller for the system itself but now we have an additional 200 peripheral or maybe there will ultimately be a cheaper version
Starting point is 00:32:00 down the line there will be a price drop we're going to say that like some games will support this optional uh you know ostensibly portable playstation 5 but in practice it's just another way to control these games there are there will be like there will be like one to two interesting games that you take use of that but it will mostly be just like an a pointless feature it recalls to me the Pocket Station for the original PlayStation 1, which was a memory card that had a screen built in. And there were like a few Japanese games that used it. And you could like play the little games on the Pocket Station. But for the most part, it was not like a well-entrenched peripheral. And I feel like, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:32:46 there's a world where this thing, I cannot think of a single play scenario where I would need it. Yeah, it feels really dumb. Yeah. But also, Sony just makes such baffling choices across the board. Like, remember the PS Vita TV? Like, what the fuck were they, But but also Sony just makes such baffling choices across the board.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Like, remember the PS Vita TV? Like, what the fuck? Why would they do that? What were they thinking? But also, you could use the Vita TV to play Netflix. You can't even use this fucking thing to play Netflix. Oh, no. Yeah, that you can't.
Starting point is 00:33:22 It doesn't support Bluetooth. It's just like, look,intendo does everything so stupidly but they eventually introduced an update where you can use a bluetooth headset on a switch like you can't do that this is this is meant to be to force you to buy another set of headphones uh it's a it's a fucking pain in the ass i'll also say the other thing it made me think of heather because the pocket station was never released in the u.s but the vmu was so for the dreamcast you know controller and i and we of course we i know you and i both were were dreamcast owners dreamcast enthusiasts even that even that with every dream like came with every dreamcast controller uh was was not well utilized that probably was more just like the screen you know resolution was so low and it was monochrome.
Starting point is 00:34:05 There wasn't much you could do with that display. But like, I don't know. I have a hard time seeing this have legs. This is just such a confusing device. Why did they make this? Why didn't they make? So, OK, we're talking about the VMU. We're talking about second screen possibilities.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Why doesn't Sony who Sony makes cell phones? Why don't they make a PlayStation branded cell phone that snaps into your fucking controller, becomes a second screen for your PlayStation and is this device. And then you can take the phone out and use it. Like if Sony wanted to convert me from the Apple ecosystem, a PlayStation phone that was somehow compatible with PS5 games would be, I mean, that would be a, that's a huge garden that they could bring people into. That's a great idea. Crazy. Trademark it right away. No, I can't, I can't do that do that they won't they won't give me anyway like it's not like i'm asking a company that doesn't have a cell phone division to develop
Starting point is 00:35:12 a cell phone i'm just asking them to brand it and create a controller that snaps into it and then streams content from your ps5 to your cell phone i mean i think the reason they don't do that is because sony is Sony. I always love the old onion headline. Sony releases new stupid piece of shit that doesn't fucking work. But yeah,
Starting point is 00:35:33 this device seems pretty useless, unfortunately. It's a shame. I would love a PlayStation. I would love a new PSP, a PSP5, however they want to brand it. That would be great.
Starting point is 00:35:43 It'd be so good. Yeah. Yeah. What are you going to do? All right. Well, hey, we're this far into the podcast. We should ask the question that we ask every episode. What are you playing? What are you playing? Oscar, what are you playing? Should we have said this as pirates?
Starting point is 00:36:00 Oh, sure. What are you playing? What are you playing? I got a pitch. Maybe it's too much. What? What are you planking? That's good. It's not too much. Okay, good. You know how they walk the plank?
Starting point is 00:36:16 Yeah, no, it's not too much. I thought you were referring to that ab exercise. Oh, yeah. If you're doing that, we could talk about that. Oscar, are you playing anything lately? I'm playing some... Yes, I'm playing two games at the moment.
Starting point is 00:36:35 I'm playing Ni No Kuni Remastered. Woo! Which I have not played before because it was originally on the PS3, I believe. Yep. And it was on original on the PS3, I believe. Yep. And it was like later on in the PS3 shelf life, I believe.
Starting point is 00:36:55 So I never I never really had a chance to play the game, but I'm loving it. It's really fun. I was surprised by the Pokemon aspect of the game. I wasn't expecting that. I don't know if I missed people talk about that but no one did so when it was like oh you can like catch monsters and and they're your friends and i was like what cool um so i'm playing that and i'm playing um this is embarrassing to say but uh i don't care you wouldn't judge me. I'm playing Mac. Wow. Wow. We're not going to judge you here.
Starting point is 00:37:26 I'm. Sounds like Dr. Edge is. No, never. If you saw some of the stuff I played, I wouldn't mind to judge anyone. Before we move on from Nino Cooney, I can't let a moment where we talk about Nino Cooney to pass without playing the overworld theme from Nino Cooney, which I just put into the chat. It is so fucking good. It's the composer of all of the Studio Ghibli films.
Starting point is 00:37:57 I think Joey's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And the fucking score is so good. It's so impressive. I loved N No Kuni. So let's play that overworld theme. Oh, it's so fucking good. Wow. I mean, this sounds like a fucking great video game. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:51 I love Dragon Quest XI, but it reused all of the themes from the previous Dragon Quest. Like, there's no new music at all, and it doesn't have enough of it. And, you know, when you hear just, like, some original scoring that's just so lush and fully realized, it's, oh man, that's what that game was missing. Yeah. Ni No Kuni is so impressive because it feels like a movie.
Starting point is 00:39:15 And I think maybe that was the intention. But I was just so blown away. I'm not very far into it, but I love it so far. I looked it up because I believe this was true, and it is the case for anyone who wants to play. It is on Game Pass right now. That's why I'm playing it, yes. Oh, there you go.
Starting point is 00:39:32 And what brought you back to Knack? It was, so I just, okay, I'm a late adopter. I just bought a PS5. Got it. Thank you. It's great. I love it. And I was looking at games to transfer over to my ps5 and i didn't realize that i owned knack for the longest time and i never even
Starting point is 00:39:53 touched it so i was like you know what i'm gonna this is this is gonna be my champagne bottle which i will break the ps5 i'm gonna launch with the shittiest playstation 4 game ever made so i'm playing knack and you know i don't know if y'all played knack but um i did not nope it ain't good it ain't good there's something you know satisfying about the gameplay and that's sort of like I'm turning off all of my brain cells and just sort of like it's not doing anything new it's just sort of like a
Starting point is 00:40:32 regular action adventure game but the storyline is so stupid the voice acting is not good I'm sorry to the voice actors who worked in it it's just a game that I'm trying to beat right we've all been there oh well oh 100 percent you know we've done on the show a lot uh matt what are you playing
Starting point is 00:40:56 well yeah uh so i'm you know i've been playing a lot a lot a lot still of uh of baldur's gate 3 and uh i had an issue in my game where i had to go back to an earlier save and i lost a little bit of progress i uh not too much story progress but i did i felt like i missed some uh progress, I guess you could say, with some of the characters. And I had to appear back in uh the the town where he's from or the little village where he lives and uh if you go to do this other thing before going to talk to him it there's a known glitch where if you do it it's sort of in the wrong order he's not there this. This is Halcyon, right? Yeah, Halcyon, yes. And I was like looking and looking for him.
Starting point is 00:42:08 I was like, oh, I want to complete this part of the quest, but he's not here. What do I do? And I was Googling, like, where is this guy? What do I do? Do I have to do something to trigger him being there? And it just turned out that I did something in a slightly, not even a wrong order, because there's no wrong
Starting point is 00:42:26 order to do anything. And there's just like a, it's a, you know, it's just a glitch. There's just like a programming error in there that will make him not appear where he's supposed to be. And so, I had to go all the way back to doing this one thing before I had a bunch of people over at my camp to have a party. And I had to go talk to him first instead of going straight to the party um because you know you tell me there's a party happening at my camp i'm going straight there oh yeah right you're a party animal yeah i was like your camp you gotta go yeah exactly you guys don't know this because you guys i'm talking to the listeners you don't know this i'm recording right now with a lampshade on my head also if you're younger than like i think 25 that doesn't mean anything no
Starting point is 00:43:10 well maybe they know this i have a tie tied around my head also yeah a tie around your head i think is still that's a universal party experience yeah because i had my tie on i usually record in a suit and tie we We kind of keep it business, a business attire when we're recording. And we expect our guests to do that too. So Oscar, thank you for doing that. But great.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Thank you. Everyone looks like a million bucks, but I had my tie on, I loosened it. And that's usually enough to be like a party guy. But I was like, nah, you went all the way,
Starting point is 00:43:40 put it all the way up, you know, around my head and then, you know, tied it there. And then sort of was like this guy came to party uh but i so but i have i'm back to where i was basically and back to getting my ass kicked trying to get through these fucking mountains to get to this other thing
Starting point is 00:43:56 but i just find the gameplay so like i don't know this might be i mean i'm gonna be playing this for a long time certainly but something about even just like walking around in the world i just love like i just it just feels so good to me and like even if you're not doing um anything too exciting i feel like i'm still having the time of my life and there was like a point this year where i like don't know i i couldn't foresee something else potentially being game of the year. That wasn't breath of the breath of the wild tears of the kingdom. Uh, and this is like pretty close and I'm not even done.
Starting point is 00:44:33 Like, it's like, it's so fucking good to me. Um, and I just, I just really, I'm just so impressed by it. I just,
Starting point is 00:44:40 did you take a picture of your character? I want to see what your character looks like. I have but i'll send it to you afterwards she's hot as hell i don't really know much about this game um the only thing i do know which my friend has told me maybe eight to ten times uh was that he was like do you know you can make that your character circumcised or uncircumcised yeah okay yes yeah and every every character type like every character class or uh character race rather where it's like a dragonborn or like if you're like an elf or like a human or something they all have sort of like specific genitalia it's it's great and you can sort of make a lot of the characters a lot of the like party members try to have sex with you uh yes a very fun part of the
Starting point is 00:45:34 game and they'll call they have specific dialogue uh depending on whether or not you have a foreskin yeah cut a lot of detail yeah they say a lot of that stuff it's pretty rude actually discussed it either way yeah i'm playing that uh i i did i mad i agree with you the game is is really staggering and and impressive the bugs are a bummer just because you're like afraid that something's going to go wrong and like that's like the kind of tightrope walk of of playing the game is just like oh man i don't want i don't want to break a quest. I don't want to mess something up. Just the uncertainty you have as the user.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Yes. That's a little bit of an issue with just playing it so close to launch with such a game that's just so complex. But I think that once all that stuff is patched out it'll just be you know again just utterly staggering and there was that you just reminded me of something because i'm playing on i'm playing primarily on steam deck so i'm used to the controller layout and i was experimenting with some of the other you can install other um controller layouts like through steam uh and i was looking at some of the other ones and you sort of had to make a choice whether you want you want the controller feel or if you want like
Starting point is 00:46:52 the mouse and keyboard feel on the controller which i don't love and i wish there was like a hybrid i can't find the hybrid control basically where i want the ability to play like i'm playing in controller mode but i also want the ability to press like i'm playing in controller mode but i also want the ability to press like the back buttons on the back to do quick save or something or quick load because as it stands right now i have to pause and then save or hit quick save in the pause menu to um like before i make a choice that i'm worried about, you know, breaking something or anytime something's about to happen, I'm always hitting, I want,
Starting point is 00:47:28 I pause so that I can save. And I wish I could just push a button like you could on a mouse and keyboard to quick save automatically, but like an F5 equipment. Exactly. Well, I mean, like,
Starting point is 00:47:38 do you have a, I don't have a Steam Deck, so I don't know how it works, but you, can you remap the controls at all? Or you, well, I'll have to see if you can. So, like a custom layout you can import?
Starting point is 00:47:47 Yeah, that's the thing I've been experimenting with. I've been importing some custom ones, and they're all like, okay, yeah, here's the controller layout, but it doesn't have the specific thing that I'm looking for, or it'll have like, here's mouse and keyboard stuff laid over the um the controller but the thing about that is it the ui completely changes in the game if you're using the mouse and keyboard input
Starting point is 00:48:14 uh so that stuff changes and then the way you even move about the world feels different because you're now doing the point and clicking thing of it rather instead of, um, just navigating a character and feeling like you're like actually walking around in it. You're just sort of like pointing and then your character progresses to wherever you pointed to, or,
Starting point is 00:48:35 you know, goes to whatever item you, uh, got it done. But I'm, I'm confident that there's something out there that I'm just not seeing. And I'm sure, um,
Starting point is 00:48:45 when this episode comes out, someone will tell me right away and then for weeks and weeks as people listen to it people will tell me so I think it's going to happen Heather what are you playing well kind listeners
Starting point is 00:49:01 of our show have alerted me that across discord and twitter have alerted me that the Mac Baldur's Gate 3 save will not transfer to the game itself when it officially releases to the Mac, nor will it transfer to PS5 when the PS5 game comes out because it is still in early access. And I instantly stopped playing Baldur's Gate because I was so fucking pissed off. Wow.
Starting point is 00:49:38 I don't know. I've probably only put seven hours into the game, but that's a lot of time to read that I'll lot of time, uh, to, to read that, that I'll have to replay, which also means that I'm going to have to,
Starting point is 00:49:51 like, in order to make it interesting, I'm going to have to play an entirely different kind of character. Uh, when I relaunch that game on PS five in September, September, um, which is going to be a hard month because? Which is going to be a hard month
Starting point is 00:50:05 because Armored Core is going to be eating up all my fucking time. So, yeah, what am I going to play in the interim? I have Viking Madness, so I'm thinking about playing Hellblade, Setsuna's Sacrifice, or
Starting point is 00:50:22 God of War Ragnarok, which I still haven't played. Heather. Um, me neither. I didn't, I didn't play it either. And I know Apodaca.
Starting point is 00:50:34 Matt, you're the weird one here. I'm a fucking little freak. Apodaca loved it. They loved it. I loved it. Um, and I'm considering,
Starting point is 00:50:44 uh, getting just downloading it from my PC. I loved it. I loved it. I loved it. And I'm considering getting, just downloading it from my PS5 while I'm abroad and starting to play it because I've got Viking Madness. You keep saying that. I've got Viking Madness? I do. I have Viking Madness. And if you listen to our sister show,
Starting point is 00:51:02 Get Animated, you know how terribly I have Viking madness. I'm reading history books. I'm going to Scandinavian bakeries. I am watching Vinland Saga nonstop. Heather, can you tell me a fun fact about Vikings? Yeah, sure. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:51:24 So Viking history was oral, right right it was orally passed down like they would tell their stories tell their stories and uh it wasn't until about party animal 200 years after i'm just barreling through it 200 years after uh the viking age happened oh man i've got two things i want to tell you that these uh that the stories were finally written down by like monks right and monks will have an agenda and so like you can't really trust whether or not these uh sagas that were written by the monks later are uh a little bit warped because the christians were going to bring their own baggage to Viking stories. But the poetry was so complex and the rhyme schemes were so intense
Starting point is 00:52:09 that we are almost certain that the poetry is the Viking poetry because it would fall apart if you passed it on. Like if any of the rhyme scheme didn't like continue or work, it would be like a song that didn't make sense. So the Viking poetry is probably a pretty accurate description of Viking life and Viking sagas. Whereas the actual sagas that aren't poetic are a little less accurate.
Starting point is 00:52:39 The other thing I want to say is that I also learned so far that the, the Viking age began because in the year 536 there was a huge volcanic eruption in we don't know where on earth that blotted out the sun for eight years on planet earth and fucking destroyed like all of the the blossoming empires of the iron age or maybe it was the late bronze age either way 536 this huge volcano goes off and you can see the sediment all over the planet and like you can also see in the archaeological record uh farms shrunk and then were taken over by the forest because like people couldn't get shit to like come out of the land. And in that power vacuum is when Viking society began to raise.
Starting point is 00:53:30 So that the reason the Viking Age happened was because maybe as many as four, certainly one to two volcanoes went off all at the same time and blanketed the entire world in ash. Wow. I just want to say real quick that the only monk that I trust is Adrian Monk. Who's that? From Monk. Oh, I didn't know Monk's name. Monk had a first name.
Starting point is 00:53:58 his name is Adrian Monk. Do they say that on the show? Yeah. Cause they don't just call him Monk. They don't? Well, they call him Monk. They don't? Well, they call him Monk, but maybe his superiors will call him Adrian. I would imagine that the drawing that somebody could do of the moment that just happened is me happy. I know.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Standing triumphantly telling a story about something I'm passionate about and Matt and Nick having a conversation below me like on a panel where they're just like making fun of me and you can see like a
Starting point is 00:54:40 crack in my sanity. Well, here's the thing i think i think it should be celebrated that i waited for you to finish the story you're right thank you matt thank you can i also say i didn't make the adriank comment. And in fact, I decided not to make my comment about these volcanoes also killing off the dinosaurs. So I, Heather, I think it's a restraint here. Thank you for sharing those stories. I enjoyed it.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Thank you for sharing. Like, what is this podcast? Am I still on? How did this get played? And you guys are on a different show? Yeah, the timeline's fractured. I did think it was interesting. Yeah, it was fascinating.
Starting point is 00:55:29 Nick, what are you playing? Well, I've been playing the game we're going to discuss this week with the bulk of my playtime. But I did want to shout out one thing. And this is a week old. But since we last recorded, Vampire Survivors, one of my favorite games in recent years, has released on Switch, which feels like its natural home. So if you've been waiting on Vampire Survivors because you don't have one of the other platforms it's available on, but you do have a Switch, check it out. I believe it's on sale right now. Maybe I'm wrong about that.
Starting point is 00:55:57 And also they completely revamped. I mean, they actually converted over to a totally new engine on the PC version. They actually converted it over to a totally new engine on the PC version, so it's got a lot more features and what have you if you've been playing, if you've stepped away from it for a while. But yeah, Vampire Survivors, great game. If you have too much time and it goes too slowly, this is a great way to just make the hours vaporize. to prepare. Well, let me tell you, eating better is easy with Factor's delicious ready-to-eat meals. Every fresh, never-frozen meal is chef-crafted, dietician-approved, and ready to go in just two
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Starting point is 00:57:30 That's code getplayed50 at factormeals.com slash getplayed50 to get 50% off. But let's talk about this month's We Play, You Play Dredge. Dredge was released on March 30th of this year, developed by Black Salt Games, which is a four-person team based in New Zealand. It is a, and this is not my description, this is someone else's description, but it's a Lovecraftian horror fishing game.
Starting point is 00:58:12 It's it's, you know, definitely got sort of like elements of Eldritch horrors and so on. And and and just just being driven mad by the chaos of the universe. But it's also got just like fishing mechanics. And as such, it's a game that's both like soothing and stressful uh and honestly i had a great time with this thing i finished it i also finished it i finished it as well wow i didn't i didn't finish it i swear i know i know uh go back to ragnarok i got close i got really close to finishing it I had kind of a crazy week but I
Starting point is 00:58:49 and you know I did the time that I spent with it oh boy I did quite enjoy it as well yeah so it's I will say for me I think it peaks in the first act I think like it's the best part of the game is the start of the game
Starting point is 00:59:06 where you're just being because you it's it's a lot tenser uh when your ship is shittier you have like a lot less time you can spend out at sea before you have to go back to dock so like you have to really pick your spots and i think as progresses, the other thing is that the first couple of towns, you got Big Marrow and Little Marrow are like they have like a lot of NPCs there and they have a lot going on. And then as you start to get
Starting point is 00:59:33 to these more remote towns, it'll be like, you know, one to two NPCs who are populating this entire biome. And as such, it just feels a little bit less filled in. And so I kind of feel like I'm glad I played it through to the end, but I do feel like it didn't quite heighten as much as I would have liked.
Starting point is 00:59:51 I mean, honestly, I think that is my biggest complaint of the game. And after playing it, it's like it the premise is so strong. It's a very great weird premise. Those freaks in New Zealand,aland like how did you come up with this game and it started off so strong and yeah i don't know i don't i can't say ultimately if i enjoyed i enjoyed playing the game but is the game good it the first third of the game was good and then it just sort of kept i don't know, I think potentially it could have been a great game, but because it was so sort of sparse and, you know, it was it became a lot easier towards the end because you upgraded your your boat. To me, I just felt like, oh, the challenge in the first chunk was missing.
Starting point is 01:00:42 So I don't know. I'm a little bit torn about yeah it's it's the it's the difficulty of like so as the game progresses you have you know it starts off there's like coastal fishing and uh oceanic fishing there's a handful of shallow fishing there's a handful of of types of uh gear that you need to fish different types of of uh fish uh water creatures from different types of water creatures, different types of. Of a fish from different types of water as it progresses, those like just increase, but it just leads to more gear that you have to add on to your ship, more nets and poles and what have you.
Starting point is 01:01:21 But the challenge doesn't really increase in terms of catching these fish like they're slightly different mechanics in terms of how the fishing works, but the challenge doesn't really increase in terms of catching these fish. There's slightly different mechanics in terms of how the fishing works, but it all kind of feels similar. And the other thing is so the main choke point in the game is how much money you have to upgrade your ship.
Starting point is 01:01:37 But at a certain point, and I think this speaks to the inverse difficulty curve of it, how the game gets easier the more you play play is that once you start getting some passive income uh if you watch a show like uh what's what's the uh alone um they talk about a thing like automatic food like fish like food they don't have to actively pursue so just like laying down like a net or something like that and then and then fishing down the other day once you start to get nets and once you start to get crab pots in
Starting point is 01:02:06 particular, you can just kind of dot the ocean with those and then just have more money than you know what to do with. You can upgrade everything. And the, the, the difficulty sort of slinks away. So yeah,
Starting point is 01:02:16 that I agree from a gameplay standpoint, that's kind of a bummer. That's the fishing is like remained fun for me. And also just like, it's so much atmosphere and vibes. And I think that that's the fishing is all like remained fun for me and also just like it's so much atmosphere and vibes and i think that that's what this game absolutely nails the art direction and the sound design here's what i would have loved uh i would have loved a game with absolutely no story and the mechanical challenges of the first you know 20 at the game then scale all the way up to your you're essentially hunting white whales like i wish that's what i was expecting absolutely yeah i i wish that i like i honestly i don't give
Starting point is 01:02:55 a shit about what like the red light lighthouse when you help me out with the light. I like also the quests or like, can you get me a rotting eel from a grotto across the entire world? And I'll fulfill your wildest dreams. And then that bitch gives you like a hundred bucks. That was literally the most annoying side quest. Yeah. Like so. So I expected or wanted not expected because I didn't expect anything going into this but
Starting point is 01:03:28 what I wanted was okay I have upgraded my reels now I'm going to get to fish these abyssal abyssal say that abyssal abyssal or hazel fishes fishes
Starting point is 01:03:43 and I want those or hadle fishes. Fishes? And I want those mini games, the little like rock band style, press a button at the right time, QTE, fishing mini games to become incredibly complicated so that you are fishing for an entire day and racing against the sunset to catch this one rare fish, almost like a cross between Monster Hunter and Dredge. And like that game, that would be I mean, you could like you're upgrading and upgrading your fish until you're like detonating dynamite under the water and like bringing a ton of fish up to the sea.
Starting point is 01:04:23 under the water and like bringing a ton of fish up to the sea, like make the fish. And I hate to say this, make the catching of the fish, a puzzle. So you have to like kill a bunch of fish in an area that then draws a different fish to that area that then you can fish. I love like, like I,
Starting point is 01:04:40 I don't, I don't need, I don't need some fucking dude to be like I haven't talked to my brother for five years can you blow up this little rock ledge and then maybe I'll go talk to him especially
Starting point is 01:04:54 since once bombs are active in the game you can buy them from fucking anybody so I don't know there was a game hiding behind this game that i really wanted to play um i i would just want to be i don't want to be too down on this game because i did actually really enjoy it i think overall it's like i i had a lot of fun with it i agree with these i agree with these criticisms and i made them myself but i do feel like it it
Starting point is 01:05:22 pays off and i contra heather i actually like the story in this game. I especially like how it resolves, which we won't get to right away. But it's like, I found it really satisfying, just the idea of, I think just the way it evokes just like loneliness and desperation. And like, that's just what I know about a lot of people who are like really into fucking like living in remote places or or or just like spend so much time on boats and shit it's just like it's a lot of people are just like kind of like i don't know something something went awry in your life if you're spending
Starting point is 01:05:55 most of your time on a boat you know what i mean and i think it really explores that uh and i i think that i think the player characters uh arc is. Yeah, I think one thing that, so like, as you're exploring the ocean, you'll see like massive, like Leviathan sized creatures that I, again, similar to you, Heather, I thought like at some point, okay, I'm going to try to like whale something like this giant blue whale that I see that's, that's, you know, 40 times the size of my little boat. At some point, I'm gonna have to catch one of these things, but then that never pays off. You can take photographs of them, but that's just like less satisfying. And I don't feel like any of the side quests because, again, all the incentives are just monetarily and money stops being a problem.
Starting point is 01:06:36 They there. Yeah, I kind of stopped doing all those pursuits. They're called. But, Matt, let's let's hear your thoughts. pursuits they're called uh but matt let's uh let's hear your thoughts yeah i mean i think my favorite one of my favorite parts was i do agree that like the uh the first part of the game was a little harder but once you're once you get like a speed upgrade for the boat i was like this is i love this like i i actually you know because there are like emergent things that can happen where you can get like attacked kind of by fish or like by scary things at night and uh not that that was too scary for me but like i the window for me finishing this game was getting smaller and smaller just as like this month went on and uh i decided to turn it on turn
Starting point is 01:07:17 on passive mode in the game which is like the mode it's like kind of like not scary mode but oh right uh so you can kind of just like scary mode but oh right uh so you can kind of just like get through stuff and i'm telling you right now i didn't think it was too scary for me it was like i don't think it was like scary at all why are you shivering man i didn't think it was that scary but i was just like uh you know i'm trying to get through this without fucking up or you know without getting you're having to go back a save or whatever so turning that on kind of just made it more of a vibes game kind of where like you're still doing the stuff and like figuring out what's going on but I it was just it was just a little chiller and that i really liked i i loved how like relaxing kind
Starting point is 01:08:07 of that it was and uh uh you know my uh my girlfriend um uh she she was like oh like the music in this game is so good and she never comments like in a way where she's talking about something she likes about the video game that i'm playing but she was like the music in this is so relaxing and so like uh she called it um like spa music almost like in when i had it paused at one point i was like oh yeah it's like pretty um you know you're out at the sea you're kind of just like you know i'm just catching a you know bunch of weird fish and stuff it was pretty i i I did like that. The mechanic that I loved, and I was talking to you guys a little bit about this before,
Starting point is 01:08:48 the way fishing feels and the way dredging items feels from- Specifically dredging, the titular mechanic is rad. It's so good. It feels great. And I played it on PS5 and there's not like PS5 integration for the DualSense, but it feels good on the controller um i i love a timed mechanic like that uh so the fact that there's so much of that in the game was
Starting point is 01:09:13 was fun and that there's various ones for fishing was really great but and i loved i loved upgrading too i in the story like you know i didn't get through all of it. And so when we get to the stuff where you have to talk about, like, what's going on in the ending or whatever, go off. I'm not, like, worried about this game being spoiled for me at all. So say what you want to say. But the story that I experienced thus far, I got through, like, almost all of it. I think I got to, like, chapter four.
Starting point is 01:09:43 What part are you up to? I'm in chapter four. And I know that there's six so there's still a little bit to go but i got through a pretty decent chunk of it yeah you're almost there and i do intend to finish it because i was uh really enjoying it i do sort of wish also that i had bought it on um a different platform uh just because the um i could have been playing it while doing something else but like ps5 i was just like oh i'll just get it here because balder's gates on steam deck that'll be my steam deck thing and then it's you know these are the choices you make and i made my bed i had to lie in it um but uh i did i did quite enjoy it and i liked i liked the freaky little fishies i'll tell you that uh let's let's talk about that in a second i i do want to you mentioned the music
Starting point is 01:10:31 and let's uh i'm putting a track in the chat if we want to play this one uh matt this is from the soundtrack the score is by david mason uh and i ended up buying the the ost on steam after uh because i was just like, I really like this. I just want to listen to this. And, you know, there were a few pieces of music that were called Final Fantasy and Wind Waker Legend of Zelda Wind Waker to me. But there feels like there's a lot of Wind Waker inspiration. Yeah. You know, it's like it's like a kind of a dark Wind Waker.
Starting point is 01:11:03 Anyway, this this theme is the Restless Town. It's kind of that walking that line again. Just like, you know, it's calming and haunting at once. Ambiguous, ethereal. I don't know. It's just like a nod of lovely scoring throughout. Isn't that harp, isn't that the same chord as the Final Fantasy Prelude? That's what I was thinking, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:43 It sounds similar anyway can i go back to something good stuff that i said that uh it's not about the game um i i said girlfriend are you gonna say monk i want to talk about monk again i said adrian i said girlfriend and i just think the word fiance is weird. And I didn't want to go to wife because I was just like, I'm not married. So I didn't know what to do, so I said girlfriend. I didn't want to confuse anybody. What did you want to say, Matt? It's off.
Starting point is 01:12:16 It's off. My chick. The betrothal is off. Oh, boy. This is my chick. Okay, ludicrous. My chick bad. Well, and, you know, on the other side of the coin, my chick okay ludicrous my chick bad well and you know on the other side coin my chick good as well have you announced this on the podcast i don't think i said this on the podcast
Starting point is 01:12:34 no no i've had a crazy couple weeks uh yeah i got engaged and then a week later thank you yeah but it's uh thank you very much and thank you uh but yeah i'm very excited um but yeah i just didn't um i'm struggling with the word uh fiance because i think it's strange i think it's a weird i think it's a weird word what if you said it like um my wife billy zane in titanic oh my fiance my fiance my fiance maybe i'll go for Billy Zane I didn't want to derail and like talk personal news but I was just like that didn't sit right with me for a second so I felt like I had to say something but anyway you can go back to
Starting point is 01:13:12 talking about Dredge and stop talking about me congrats buddy thank you very much I'm very excited yeah it's great you know this game has a lot about wives and betrothals it actually is you find a lot of bottles that are just like a drift at sea that will just uh have diary entries about someone uh and their uh you
Starting point is 01:13:33 know that their their issues with their spouse to be uh and how they're they've been driven mad by the endless ocean um it's uh and then that ends up tying into the story which we'll maybe get to uh so i guess there were they at a certain point patched this game to eliminate the time limits on the side quests the pursuits uh which was a thing that was in there initially and i guess probably would have added a little bit more tension but also as i'm thinking through some of those pursuits i think that also would have made them just uh just extra annoying so i think that was probably a good i mean they they did it i'm sure I trust that that was the right move.
Starting point is 01:14:05 Not having played the original version. Yeah. I can't imagine playing the, um, those, the, the side quests with the, um,
Starting point is 01:14:12 the hooded figures. Yes. Trying to find specific fish during a timeframe that would have driven me crazy. Or like, or like the, um, give me a cabin,
Starting point is 01:14:22 the quest in the mangrove. If those had been timed that would have been like really exciting like you would have been like like fucking smashing up your boat constantly trying to get those fish that would have been kind of neat i would have done i would have been okay with a time like a timed version of the mangrove quests uh just because it feels like that area was so, it was designed to be raced through at the edge of your ability to control your boat. So the mangrove, for people who haven't played the game,
Starting point is 01:14:58 it is, or haven't gotten that far, it's a section, it's like chapter four. I'm sorry. What's the matter? Well, I feel like i just ruined it for people who weren't in spoiler country no i'm just gonna give i'm just giving a little bit of context for what we're not no there's not your wouldn't even spoil anything when we get to the woman grove thank you matt uh congrats on your engagement thank you there's a so it's like
Starting point is 01:15:22 it's like a there's a it it's like a archipelago with a bunch of different, you know, like tiny islands and really narrow waterways. So you kind of have to navigate through it quickly. And there's also like these,
Starting point is 01:15:35 these, like, you know, Lovecraftian beasts that pop up that, that will try to kill you as you're trying to do
Starting point is 01:15:43 your fishing. And the whole quest you're doing there is there's a stranded aviator who all of his airmen have been killed and he wants you to retrieve their dog tags and also try to kill these monsters that are inhabiting the mangrove with explosives. So it's like everything,
Starting point is 01:16:01 basically the thing is like you're being pursued on all sides and then you don't have a lot of room to maneuver. But yeah, there isn't there isn't necessarily a time pressure, except for the fact that at the end of each day, you have to get back to harbor because if you're out too late and a big eye appears at the top of the at the top of your HUD and then you start to see hallucinations that manifest themselves in the game world and can damage your watercraft. I will say that is the best part of the game. That shit is cool. The sort of madness and the sort of like barometer of madness with the eye specific. It starts turning like silver. Once you get really panicky, you do start hallucinating.
Starting point is 01:16:42 You see ships in the distance that you're like oh this must be a friendly ship and you find out it's like a weird sort of angler fish uh that attacks you um it's so cool that that aspect of the game is so well done uh i i i really i really really love that part of the game yeah that shit's awesome i love it. Wait, can I ask a question that is not me being like, I didn't get any... So I stayed up days at a time in the game and NPCs would be like, whoa, you need to sleep.
Starting point is 01:17:20 But nothing was happening to my boat or anything. What? Really? Yeah. Were you just... but like nothing was happening to my boat or anything what really you yeah what what like were you just did you dock and did you have any time pass or were you just like out at sea the whole time continuously uh i'm not sure i mean there were definitely multiple days in the game where i didn't sleep so you reach it basically the clock because you know i had i did some all-nighters and i i believe what happens is that once you hit daylight your sanity meter starts to reset so it's like more the day night cycle than like actually getting getting a certain amount of sleep you can just avoid the hallucinations in the water though can't you yeah so that's part of the the
Starting point is 01:18:03 kind of the push pull of it of like if you want to like try to go out because there's certain fish you can only catch at night so if you want to try to stay out later uh and you can do that but it's certainly the safer move to dock and to rest okay well you guys were talking a little bit ago about um like mechanics you kind of wish were in the game and i was thinking i was thinking of one that i thought would be good which was um it would be in the similar style to like um not like a full-on like obviously there's like a rhythm element to this game which i is already sort of like my favorite type of thing uh but if there was like, you know, in Tony Hawk games, when you can do like a grab or a grind and there's like this like meter that you have to sort of keep the balance like in the middle. And if you go to one side or the or the other, you could fall or fail.
Starting point is 01:19:07 like perfect storm type waves as also another impediment in the game uh during maybe the nighttime even uh that could that could be cool where you have to keep your vessel upright during these really rocky waters or something that could have been that could have been cool not that maybe your vessel is like a big flat sort of surface like it's kind of like longer than it is why yeah and instead of balancing on it instead of wearing like fishermen's kind of like longer than it is wide. Yeah. And instead of wearing like fishermen's clothes, you're wearing like etnies or something. And right. Darth Maul outfit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:32 Yeah. Yeah. You could be Darth Maul. Can I do a, like a Nick and Matt style joke? Yes. I thought when you said you, what kind of mechanic you wanted in the game,
Starting point is 01:19:46 that you were going to say Sid from Final Fantasy XV. Too funny. That's the issue. Yeah, that's kind of the thing. It was too funny. Okay. It's okay. So I think, yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:20:02 I think by and large the approach they took to the fishing, I think the fishing feels good. I agree that like, yeah. And then, as I said earlier, I wish it heightened more and I wish it kind of went in different directions. But I do feel like it's largely fun to fish. really that i think is again one of the cooler things cooler elements here when it gets into the horror side is there are certain so that you'll be you'll be picking like a collecting one type of fish uh so you know whatever like you're uh you're going in and you're fishing uh like uh like flounder you're finding flounder but then among the flounder there will appear an aberration and so like you know based on a certain frequency uh you'll pull up like a cyclopean flounder that will look like a flounder
Starting point is 01:20:53 but it'll also be like this distorted sort of gnarled uh horrific version of it um and part of your part of the the the things that will happen with the various quests is you'll have to find different aberrations of these. And also they sell for more. But I love the design of all of those. I just loved how nasty a distorted boil-covered mullet looked. It all looked adequately horrifying. And it was also just always satisfying like the little bit of sound like you get like a different sound effect that would play when you catch one of them and they'd have like
Starting point is 01:21:32 some great flavor text for what they were exactly i always thought i thought that was a very satisfying element yeah there was i mean there there's a really good serotonin dopamine loop in this game of catch your fish bring them in get a tiny bit of an upgrade catch your fish bring them in get a tiny bit of an upgrade like that stuff was so good and like catching these fucked up fish would give you sometimes more money than and you'd be like fuck yeah or you'd be like oh shit okay i've got a uh part of it is um resident evil 4 style uh inventory management there's a ton of that there's so much of that a grid on your boat that you align your fish in so you can fish like complementary fish shapes and then pack your boat full of fish and bring them in and get your cash and upgrade a little bit like that was awesome like i literally did
Starting point is 01:22:35 that for days and also i um the first thing i did before i went to any of the other islands was, uh, or I went to, I went to one, I went to my, after I got to my first island and research chips were available from the harbor, uh, I was like, oh, and the chips are only money. Well, I can do that. So I would just like fish, get money get money dump them like dump them into research and the first thing i did from my boat was unlock the giant fast engine i'd like got got all the way through the um skill tree so to speak of upgrading your engine to the fastest possible engine so i had like the the jet engines on my first boat whoa which was kind of wow before expanding the hole yeah because the because the jet engines are only a single square and the uh speed stacks so you can get like you can fill all of your available engine squares
Starting point is 01:23:43 with jet engines and race your little boat around which is pretty great the thing that I'm loving about this this is such a Heather min max way of playing this game well I also like because I think we probably started playing it a little bit before
Starting point is 01:23:59 Heather did and while I started playing at the start of the month I was certain we'd be having a completely different conversation this time uh as a as a recording because i started playing it and i was convinced heather is going to hate this i was like this is not the type of thing but like there's but now that you're talking about it i'm like the game is kind there is a sort of combat element to it that's not combat, but it is. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:24:28 Yeah. Like, the fishing is combat. And, like, that feels like combat. Yeah. You gotta go, like, you find, oh, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, so after I upgrade my fucking, my little racing engine, then I'm gonna, like, upgrade my fish reels, my reels all the way. Yes. So I can catch those big boys out in the sea.
Starting point is 01:24:46 Yeah. And then you could only fit one of them on the boat. Like go in and out of the harbor with my one shark. And I guess. I'd be like, here's my shark. Yeah. And I guess I shouldn't have been so surprised because you do like upgrades and you do like trying to figure out like, you don't love puzzles and this doesn't have that
Starting point is 01:25:06 but i was just like with the going back and forth of it all and like i guess the inventory management is like kind of like the best that's the most heather thing too like trying to figure that out as the most yeah no if i can fast boat kill fish why do you need any other things in this game? You don't need the story. You don't need the islands. Fast boat, kill fish. That's the game. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:31 You know, I do want to say to Heather, your point, the killing of the fish aspect. There's an element of the game where it tells you how many fish there are in that little thing. Oh, yeah. If it's like high, low, or like whatever, sparse. And then you like deplete. You can deplete sort of that zone yeah and yeah i to me and i might be wrong here but the connotation feels like you shouldn't exhaust like a little fishing spot like to deploy to like deplete it
Starting point is 01:26:00 is like not good and that's just me as an environmentalist being like, I have to be careful about not fishing too much because I don't want to run out of fish for later. But then there is no consequence to running out of fish. No, there's no consequence. They regenerate the next day or something. And then I was like, oh. You strip mine each fishing spot and dump those fish off so that your boat can go as fast as it can. Right. And I just wish there was an element of like, if you deplete this part, like you can't either you can't get any more fish in that area or another kind of fish will show up. Like you were saying earlier, that's like all all mutated fish or something like that um that that individual spawn point will be like that will go away for a
Starting point is 01:26:51 while so like if you deplete it it's like you you you kind of can't harvest fish that's my understanding of it right um and so like you want it like you don't want it to get below low but honestly but there's so many fishing spots and again so many ways like you'd like crab pots don't deplete an area you know the net will always be able to dredge fish no matter where you're going so yeah you're never really an issue where it's it's a roadblock but also i think just like the developers were at kind of a i i think they were kind of in a in a in a spot where they're like well i don't do i don't want to make this game impossible or unfinishable. So, yeah, it more becomes like an ethical concern in terms of how you want to role play your fishermen. And for me, I was kind of like, I don't want to fucking strip mine the
Starting point is 01:27:33 ocean that makes I feel like I'm doing something wrong. You also ultimately get some Lovecraftian powers. You get like some some spells as you get those from the collectors you bring us. And one of them is to just every fish in sight just comes onto your boat, and all of those spots are permanently depleted. So you're just basically just pulling everything out from the ocean with spiritual tentacles all at once. So yeah, and that feels like a thing you shouldn't do, and that also quickly drives you mad.
Starting point is 01:28:07 Do go to the places with the biggest fish. The ones that take the longest to pull up. Fucking hit that power. Bring those motherfuckers back to the boat. Put them. Cash them out. Upgrade your engines. Did any of us. Okay. This was something i wanted to do and didn't
Starting point is 01:28:27 did any of us go to the edge of the map oh there's like a circle around the map and it's pretty far out at sea and i didn't go out there just because i was trying to race through the story since i started it after you guys. And I wonder what was out in the middle of the ocean away from all the islands. Yeah, I didn't because the islands are all kind of at the corners of the map. And there's not really a reason. Like, I don't I actually don't even know if it's a globe or a or a cylinder. If it if it the oceans connect or if you hit the edge right now live on the show.
Starting point is 01:29:06 Like, I could go for my controller and do it and tell you what happens. Do it. Nice. You guys keep chatting. I'll be right there. Let's see. I think the character design of all the NPCs, it reminds me of Darkest Dungeon,
Starting point is 01:29:20 and I wouldn't be shocked if I drew some inspiration from that. But yeah, they're all kind of angular, and I don't know what the I drew some inspiration from that but yeah they're all kind of like angular and I don't know what the name of the art technique is for just they've got like this blotchy quality to them they look very geometric and distorted
Starting point is 01:29:37 but yeah I really like that I really like how it looks I was going to say the people look weird but I don't know if you got to the part with the dog. Yes. Find a dog. And the dog is really unsettling. It's got red eyes and it's like a really thin dog.
Starting point is 01:29:52 I know you're supposed to, like, think it's cute. But I was like, I don't want this dog on my boat. Get out of here. He looks fucked up. But I did rescue the dog and I did give him to the researcher. Yeah, same. Yep. Yep. Yep. Me too. See, you're not a monster. fucked up um but i did rescue the dog and i did give him to the researcher yeah same uh yep yep yep me too uh see you're not a monster you didn't you didn't toss the dog overboard you didn't turn
Starting point is 01:30:12 it into chum wait can you as it's reloading her save right now uh the the characters too are like the game rather like none of the characters are voiced but I feel like they're a little like hmm yeah alright those go like a long way I like those yeah who was your favorite NPC hmm I like the
Starting point is 01:30:39 old mayor really yeah you find this, this fucking twisted old man marooned on a not a deserted Island. And he's like, I'm the real mayor. He was like, Oh boy.
Starting point is 01:30:52 All right. What's going on here? No, I thought that was, I like that. And I liked that how he ties into the larger narrative. And then also, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:31:00 I think, I mean, the lighthouse keeper is appropriately a mysterious I will I will say that like probably the traveling fisherman is the useful NPC because you can actually you know oh that's right yes yeah yeah but um
Starting point is 01:31:15 I don't know I like I of the like story characters I mean maybe just because I was like they were sort of early on and i liked them i did kind of i liked the brothers i liked reuniting oh the two brothers maybe it's because i have brothers but i was like i would hope that somebody would try to reunite us if and then i'd give whoever dynamite or whatever
Starting point is 01:31:38 i would say the number one and this is something i I forgot. First off, I hated all the NPCs and I didn't want to talk to any of them. They, they all were, they bored me. I didn't care. They bored me. I was like, yeah,
Starting point is 01:31:54 yeah, yeah, yeah. Just like, okay. Yep. Great. Fucking,
Starting point is 01:31:58 I don't care about your little like journey. Like I don't care about any of it. I don't want your life. Not varsity blues i did i did realize just now as i'm racing towards the uh the edge of the horizon here uh something that i wanted to say about the game which is that the most damage the ability to race. Haste. Haste.
Starting point is 01:32:29 I used haste and blew up my engine so many times. Yeah. Yeah. Really hard to let off the gas in this game. Because it feels fun. It is. It feels like you're zooming, you know? But then you also, like, if you're not looking where you're going
Starting point is 01:32:46 you could hit a rock true or something so you're not you're not necessarily incentivized fully to only be looking at the meter for which haste uh you know gets to the top but like the sides of the screen also start to get red like you're about to be taking on damage if you you know keep uh you know hauling ass well it also drives you mad yeah like all of these are like these these magic you know unearthly powers you are getting from the collector and they from his uh his his magic book and so they are all like if you can't you can only use them so much before the eye manifests itself. Yeah. Is that true? Yeah. Even with the racing of your engine?
Starting point is 01:33:29 No, yeah. They all add to your insanity meter. Huh. Where are you? What are you doing right now, Heather? I'm just racing towards the edge of the map to tell us what it is that happens when you get to the edge of the map. Got it. And here we go.
Starting point is 01:33:46 I'm finally at the edge. Entering uncharted waters. Turn back, it says. All right, great. It's not going to stop you. Great. Okay. Turn back.
Starting point is 01:33:58 Turn back, it says. Nothing. Nothing's happening to my boat. I'm just racing forward. There don't look to be any fish out here. That's for sure. There's no fish in Uncharted Waters.
Starting point is 01:34:17 There was this ATV video game that I used to play at my uncle's house when I was a kid. I think it was for PlayStation 2. And my thing would be that I would try to just
Starting point is 01:34:31 go to the edge of the playfield in any of the levels and you'd get there and its solution for getting you away from there was it would just send you flying across the map. Like you would crash into it and it would just send you flying back to like the middle of the map. It was so funny.
Starting point is 01:34:53 And I just thought that was so funny and fun. And that's all I would try to do in that game. Okay, I can tell you guys what happens. Oh, great. All right, great. You get eaten. What? Whoa.
Starting point is 01:35:03 You get eaten by a giant fish that's cool like a big a big fish eats you from behind so you don't even see it coming it just eats you and that's it i guess that's what happens when you go on uncharted waters yeah you're not supposed to go out there they told you to turn around that's that's a bummer but interesting i'm glad that there's something there there's consequences yes exactly yeah uh should we get in should we should we progress into uncharted waters of our own and and head into to spoiler country and talk about the end game a little bit yard yard we be headed into spoiler country your best believe in spoiler
Starting point is 01:35:47 country you're in it oh my god that's good just an episode of this podcast where matt matt can only speak in trailer quotes you wait and see we uh we got talk like a pirate day coming up so uh so we're gonna talk we'll talk about the the end of the story a little bit so if you don't want that spoiled you can jump ahead to i don't know do you want to put a time code in here matt uh i don't know how to do that so just skip ahead skip ahead a little bit so okay so what what ends up happening is you have this this character the collector and he and all of the main quest lines go through him each he has a different artifact that he needs you to retrieve from each of the different uh sort of sets of islands uh you gradually get all five of them uh you go to the Gale Cliffs.
Starting point is 01:36:45 You go to the Stellar Basin. You go to the Twisted Strand. And you go to the Devil's Spine where there's lava. And you do the various quests in each of these. And then you retrieve all these artifacts. You bring them back. And then you have a decision point where you can do one of two endings. And I did them both
Starting point is 01:37:06 and I like that this game makes it so that you don't have to do a bunch of bullshit to get both endings you can just kind of see them both and it gives you a save where you can like make that make that choice again because that's what the user wants to do I love that I love that decision
Starting point is 01:37:21 it's it's it's very very user friendly and i think both endings are good i think both endings are satisfying and there isn't like a a like positive ending really but they both give like an interesting bit of narrative closure i okay so because i was just like fucking i want fish i don't care i want fish and money i don't want any of this story i read all i collected all the fucking you know floating bottles and read them and i was like okay this lady's got a fucking was a little bit disappointed because I'm tired of the trope of woman being motivator in a video game. And I think there are games that have done it well,
Starting point is 01:38:16 which I won't mention because I don't want to spoil those games. I don't want you to be in the middle of spoiler country for Dredge and here's spoiler country for an entirely different game um but then there are games like this where it's just like but what why why you know i'm pretty sure that braid has been out for long enough now that i can spoil braid and braid tells the story of you trying to you know maybe get back together with an ex-girlfriend. It's been like two decades almost since I played that fucking game. And I was like, okay, this is a nice twist on the princess in a tower trope of Mario that we've all like kind of gotten used to. But with this, I was like, like Shadow of the Colossus has done it.
Starting point is 01:39:05 Like, there's been decades of games where it's like, you know, oh, it's your dead wife. And I was really bummed out in Dredge when that happened. It almost made me angry because I was like, you've got to be fucking kidding me. And I turned off and I was like, I'll never think about this game ever again, because the ending sucked. Which ending did you get? Did you get them both? No, fucking she comes back to life, and then the Leviathan destroys the town.
Starting point is 01:39:38 And I was like, okay, great. Boo. Power off. I thought it was cool. I will say that, yes, obviously an overused trope. Hey, we're talking about God of War. That's a fucking dead wife game. I mean, it's just like... It is? Kratos is kind of like the ultimate wife
Starting point is 01:39:55 guy, yeah. Exactly. I guess I probably give it more of a pass, partly because of my own biases, but also because of,, I think there's a, it's because it's kind of anchored in this sort of like Lovecraftian genre. It's like it kind of felt like it's like fitting with what that sort of story would be. But I do understand the point. I will say that the way that that resolves, which is, yes, you go to the collectors like we can do this ritual and you go out there and you can bring your dead wife back
Starting point is 01:40:27 to life, but that results in the basically effectively the world being destroyed by this gigantic eldritch horror. I think that that is a great visual payoff and I think that's that ties in nicely with what the game is doing thematically, which is about like talk about how the sea drives one mad. And then the
Starting point is 01:40:43 other ending, the quote-unquote good ending is i think like a little bit less satisfying but still also cool well you know what it's the actual ending itself is is less satisfying but the setup to it is uh you go to punch the collector because you're like i know the truth i've talked to the lighthouse keeper i've talked to the old mayor i know what's actually going on this world you're gonna punch the lighthouse keeper uh your fist shatters your old mayor. I know what's actually going on in this world. You've got to punch the lighthouse keeper. Your fist shatters in a mirror. You are the fucking collector. And you realize that it's been you the
Starting point is 01:41:12 whole time who have been driving yourself mad. And that's like a cool little bit of twist. And then you end up sacrificing yourself from the sea to escape this prison you built from yourself. That's great.
Starting point is 01:41:26 That's cool. Yeah, you get eaten by a giant fish, which is what happens if you go to uncharted waters. You're not supposed to. That's like skipping to the credits. It's just like... That's how you speedrun this game. You just race to the end of the map. I beat it.
Starting point is 01:41:47 Yeah, go on. I wish there were more rare fish. I wish there was more fish that like, it's funny to compare this game to Final Fantasy XI, an MMO, but there are fish that you can only catch like once a month
Starting point is 01:42:03 during a full moon between the hours of like 1 and 7 a.m. And like the the that game is not a fishing game. So I do wish that there was like a fish that you heard about where it's like, hey, there's a there's a blue eyed rock coral fish that you can only catch in your literal calendar month on the first Tuesday of the month. Because I'd be like, okay, I'm in. Maybe there is that in this game, but nobody talks about it. So maybe there isn't.
Starting point is 01:42:35 There are a ton of fish that I didn't go after because you don't need them for progression. I think, honestly, it's so... I think there are, you know, if you look at the list of fish that you can get in the game, there might be some like that that are available. Shut up. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:42:50 No, no. But what I was going to say is like to your point, I didn't feel the need to go after them. And I wonder if that's partly because, you know, again, the side quests aren't super interesting, but also like I think I was playing on steam and I don't give a shit about steam achievements. And I think if I was playing on like Xbox, you know,
Starting point is 01:43:10 or something where I, where I track the achievements a little bit more PlayStation, I maybe might've done tried to catch more of those fish just to try to a hundred percent. There's no, I don't think there's an achievement for catching the exotic fish in the game, which I was expecting. I was fully like, okay.
Starting point is 01:43:24 Cause I caught all the exotic fish and I was like, was expecting i was fully like okay because i caught all the exotic fish and i was like all right here it is the achievement and nothing uh and also like the you get like research parts as like rewards to catching the exotic fish which as we said before it's not too hard to get the research parts so it really is just i'm sorry yeah you could just buy them and i think the cool thing about catching the exotic fish is just the aesthetic of them. They look really cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:52 They look awesome. Yeah. They're great. Wait. So I just looked up the rarest fish in the game and it's considered to be the gazing shark. And I caught one of those. Oh,
Starting point is 01:44:03 like it's, it's the, it's the mutated hammerhead. Oh, yeah. So that's not that rare, is it? I mean, it's not... Anytime I saw sharks, I would
Starting point is 01:44:16 fish them until they were done. So... I don't know. I definitely caught a regular-ass hammerhead. I liked and disliked this game. That's my take. I think this game is pretty awesome, especially considering it coming from
Starting point is 01:44:33 kind of out of nowhere, from an indie small team. I think it's just such a cool premise. I think it looks and sounds great. And I think it starts off with such a bang that definitely worth playing, especially if like, Hey,
Starting point is 01:44:47 if you, if it shows up on games, game pass, or it turns up on sale, this is kind of fucking dumb to say at this point, cause we're in spoiler country. So if you haven't played this game, why would you be listening to this?
Starting point is 01:44:56 But that said of, of the indie ocean based games, I still of this year, I still prefer Dave, the diver, but I am glad that we played this uh at a blast me too me too like i like i'm i've i've grumped a lot on this but it was i mean again that first that first third is so satisfying when you're fishing upgrading
Starting point is 01:45:18 fishing upgrading it's so clicky yeah like you're like oh i'm really snapped into this it's fun how everything kind of locks in together and and and there's that element of just like oh one more day oh let's just do one yeah yeah yeah 100 yeah yeah yeah it's great i think also what you know when matt you told me about the game that we were playing i was like oh a fishing sim yikes? Yikes. I don't know. I don't know about this. This is going to be weird. But, I mean, it's engaging. The gameplay is simple. That's the big thing.
Starting point is 01:45:53 It's not a complicated game. It's very simple and easy to pick up and just play. It's not alienating in a way where you have to know a bunch of rules. You don't have to know the story at all. The gameplay alone, if you take away the story, if you take away the aesthetic, the gameplay is very fun. And again, addicting.
Starting point is 01:46:14 Super clicky. Super like... Yeah. It hits you. And I think also the other aspect of it too that I really like is the horror aspect of it. Is the game... Does it, you know, the horror aspect of it is like, is the game six, does it have to be a horror game?
Starting point is 01:46:29 And it doesn't, it, it, it works just as well. If it was like, I don't know, an animal crossing game, I think.
Starting point is 01:46:35 However, there is something really cool about the Lovecraftian horror genre is successful because it's the unnameable horror. It's like hard to describe. It's like, that's what it is. It's like the nameless one. It's like a Cthulhu is scary because like you can't visualize how scary and
Starting point is 01:46:57 just massive Cthulhu is. And I think there's something really cool about catching the aberrations and their descriptions of it. It feels like, Oh, I can't conceptualize this. What do you mean? And I think there's something really cool about catching the aberrations and their descriptions of it. It feels like, oh, I can't conceptualize this. What do you mean? Like, there's like a fish that's like stuck in a vortex. Like, what?
Starting point is 01:47:16 But you caught one, right? And to me, there's something really, really fun about like trying to visualize these freakish monsters. Because guess what? The sea is fucking insane. Fish? Have you seen fish? Fish are fucked up. Fish. Deep sea fish are the most fucked up. And they're real right?
Starting point is 01:47:36 So you're taking real fucked up fish. And then making mutant versions of those fucked up fish. Scary. Real scary. To me in that way. The reality of how fucked up fish. Scary, real scary. To me, in that way, the reality of how fucked up fish are and just like the sea is, that was what was the most effective for me. I was like, oh, yeah, I'm never going to go in the deep ocean. Fuck that. Uh-uh.
Starting point is 01:47:58 Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah. I totally, completely agree. Actual ocean. Very scary. James Cameron, bravest man on earth.
Starting point is 01:48:07 Yes. I have snorkeled, and I enjoy that quite a bit. But I have no desire to submerge. I have no interest in the freaky ones with the lights or anything like that. No, thank you. Well, hey, those were our thoughts. Now it's time for the Uplay of our WePlayUplay. It's your review crew, the Ryu crew on Dredge.
Starting point is 01:48:33 Ha, gulkin! Ryu Crew. Ryu Crew. Yar. Yarr. Okay, so these are some reviews from our Discord, discord.gg slash getplayed. So here we go. This first one is from Puffin Stuff. Hi, Puffin Stuff.
Starting point is 01:48:57 Hey, Puffin Stuff. Nice. Nice. I loved all the fucked up fish you catch and upgrading your boat. Just wish the world was bigger. Four out of five. Okay. They gave a score.
Starting point is 01:49:07 Okay. This one's from Sea Money. Simone? Hi, Sea Money. Hi, Sea Money. Nice. Nice. In the game, I got real paranoid and almost hit rocks at night that were definitely not there during the day.
Starting point is 01:49:21 10 out of 10. Oh. that were definitely not there during the day. 10 out of 10. Oh, that is, that is another cool thing that happens as you start to hallucinate is that new, like,
Starting point is 01:49:28 you know, obstacles appear in the environment. Yeah. Did you, did when you were going mad, there's, you can go, you can press your fog horn and then you can hear another fog horn
Starting point is 01:49:41 sounding and then you can keep hitting it. And it's like a little conversation. And then one time while I was playing it I kept doing that and then all these like ghost ships kept coming and I was like it was cool that part was cool I saw like a ghost pirate ship and I was like that's fucking great
Starting point is 01:49:57 really really cool this next one's from Koopa Troopa Hi Koopa Troopa this game wouldn't have been on my radar if it wasn't for this so I'm glad to have the WePlay YouPlay to give it This next one's from Koopa Troopa. Hi, Koopa Troopa. Hey, Koopa Troopa. Nice. Nice. This game wouldn't have been on my radar if it wasn't for this, so I'm glad to have the Wii Play you play to give it a shot. I think it's a great example of a concept that would be amazing in a sequel with some refinements. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:50:15 Yeah, that's a good point. I kind of felt the same way about Cult of the Lamb, which came out last year, and that was a game that was just like, oh, this is a good, this is a full game, but also kind of a prototype, hopefully hopefully for a sequel that really figures it out yeah this next one's from Boldasaur hi Boldasaur
Starting point is 01:50:32 nice the art especially the aberrations rules moody atmosphere this game has vibes that's what you said Matt it's got vibes. It does. It's got good vibes.
Starting point is 01:50:48 Bad vibes? Spooky vibes. Hey, vibes are vibes. I'll take what you can get. Good at being spooky. Yes. This next one's from one of our mods, Ted Kord. Thanks, Ted Kord, for being a great mod.
Starting point is 01:51:03 Hi, Ted. Very nice. Very nice indeed. Overall, I enjoyed this game, Ted Cord, for being a great mod. Hi, Ted. Very nice. Very nice indeed. Overall, I enjoyed this game, but I felt let down by the lack of story and especially the ending. Let down by the ending. Interesting. Let down by the lack of story. I felt like there was too much story.
Starting point is 01:51:20 Well, you know what it is? It's like the main narrative doesn't really advance when you're at these other islands it's like you're kind of there and you're doing their own like you know you're reuniting the brothers or you're aiding the researcher in their mission you're kind of like are doing a different thing and then you're achieving an artifact and then you're coming back and so so it's really just bracketed with the the the first act and the the ending in terms of where you're actually finding out what's going on. I have a question about the game. Yeah. There are parts where you go on,
Starting point is 01:51:50 you see these like black stones and they ask you to put your hand in and sometimes you get like a premonition or something, but sometimes it says it doesn't respond. What is that supposed to be? Is that tied to the story at all or no you know what i never i i never followed that up and figured out what was going on there i just sort of like all right this is something that yeah so i i should look up what i what actually happened sometimes there's some like crab monster that shows up and oh yeah i saw i saw the crab monsters yes uh but i i assumed
Starting point is 01:52:22 that oh i'm gonna get something where I come back to these black rocks and something happens but I have to get that thing and then no the game ended so I don't know I think it's like a I assumed it was maybe tied in to
Starting point is 01:52:40 retrieving stuff for the hooded figures but maybe not no because I did I did that okay look this I'm looking it up right now apparently you just have to be like your panic has to be really high when you touch them and that's when you'll get visions oh
Starting point is 01:52:55 oh interesting but they don't really is interesting what are the visions like story it's just like you it's like it describes a Lovecraftian sort of event you know yeah it tells you something there's some context of something that happened to wherever you are i got a couple of quick ones real quick this next one's from raccoon hi raccoon nice nice uh dredge really reaffirmed my fears of the ocean. Yeah, absolutely. Ocean. Ocean's scary.
Starting point is 01:53:26 Very scary. This next one is from Z Ranch. Hi, Z Ranch. Nice. Spooky in boats is always going to hit. It's like chocolate and peanut butter. 8 out of 10. Wow. Nice. Chocolate and peanut butter, only 8 out of
Starting point is 01:53:42 10. Yeah, exactly. Maybe that's like a dog's rating. Love the peanut butter only 8 out of 10 yeah exactly maybe that's like a dog's rating love the peanut butter chocolate not so keen on I'm gonna take this recess down too yeah and then finally from not the toilet nice
Starting point is 01:54:00 nice can we make them a mod not the toilet you're. Not the toilet. You're hired. Not the toilet. Excellent game. It was like a box of donuts full of tasty loops. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:15 Wow. Oh, it is very. Got a far scump here. Good way of saying that. Okay. The game Dredge is like a box of donuts. So you're calling like a doughnut a loop in that point? I guess it's a loop, a closed loop.
Starting point is 01:54:32 Is there ever not a closed loop? I don't know. I don't think there are any doughnuts that have, they're like a U shape or any. They have the ones that are bars, right? They have like the bars. That's true. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:44 Is it a loop if it is not closed? Isn't it a U? You can have an open loop. We'll never get to the answer to this. And actually not the toilet. You're fired. That was like a really crazy thing. And you really gave us something to think about.
Starting point is 01:55:02 And that's not, we don't do that here. Quick rise and fall. That's this week's get play. you really gave us something to think about and that's not, we don't do that here. Wow. Quick rise and fall. That's this week's get play. Our engineering is by Alex Gonzalez, dead air, Alex G on Twitter and Instagram. Uh, check out our paywalled show.
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Starting point is 01:56:04 Our guest today, Oscar Montoya. Oscar, one of our favorites. Thank you so much for making time for us. Thank you for playing through this game. What a blast! I love it! What a hoot. Do you have anything you'd like to plug? Just follow me on social media at Ozzymo, O-Z-Z-Y-M-O, on Twitter and Instagram.
Starting point is 01:56:19 Oscar did a really funny, great, great show for Earwolf Presents called Try Gaze with Mano Agapian. Wow. It's so funny and so great. Thank you. I was obsessed with it.
Starting point is 01:56:31 Check it out. It's so funny. Oh, my God. I love yours and Wysocki's one, too. Okay. It's so good. Thank you very much. That one is great.
Starting point is 01:56:38 Thank you. So these are both in the Earwolf Presents feed. Exactly. You can find both of these shows. So just search for Earwolf Presents on your podcast app of choice and uh and catch all that oscar and mono try to understand straight things and it is so fucking funny it's so good to the funniest oh um i feel like this is my job when it's when it comes to this point in the show when we have a guest
Starting point is 01:57:07 because I just know that you guys you probably just can't handle it and it's just a tough thing to do and I think it's fine that I take this on just for us as a unit, as a Triforce of friendship but Oscar it brings me no great
Starting point is 01:57:24 it brings me no pleasure to do this to you at this time but you got played wow nice laughter laughter music music music
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