Get Played - We Play, You Play: Resident Evil 4 with Cody Ziglar

Episode Date: April 24, 2023

Nick and Matt are joined by Cody "Zig" Ziglar (Spider-Man: Miles Morales, Futurama) to discuss this month's We Play, You Play: Resident Evil 4! They talk about the updates and improvements ma...de to the remake, how "video gamey" it is, and more.  Follow us on Twitter and Instagram @getplayedpod. Check out our premium series Get Anime'd On patreon.com/getplayed or on Stitcher Premium. Join us on our Discord server here: https://discord.gg/getplayed Wanna leave us a voicemail? Call 616-2-PLAYED (616-275-2933) or write us an email at getplayedpod@gmail.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:27 Heather, friend me. Obviously, Heather's not here. So, you know, we just wanted just a layup, you know, an easy hang with a good friend. Yeah. And we also like we and I know, you know, the show, but like we do this little intro. We thought like, you know, I was just thinking about what we could do for the intro. But I was kind of thinking like maybe like there's a bear trap in the studio and someone you're okay you look a little flush there yeah yeah i'm doing fine uh uh but uh if there was like you know like one of us stepped in a bear trap we're like oh
Starting point is 00:01:54 where'd this bear trap come from it is he okay uh really pale hey uh hey nick yeah i don't want to uh i don't want to freak you out or anything. Your eyes are glowing yellow. And you can see the veins in your face. I may be feeling a little under the weather, but I'm COVID negative. I tested, so I'm probably fine. And this is going to be shocking to hear and maybe hard to explain as well. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:02:20 You're currently speaking Spanish? Yeah. I don't want to- We hear you in english because we understand spanish that's just like how that works wait a minute so like when i've been speaking spanish right now so so glory to las plagas you guys are hearing that in spanish exactly it's almost like a chant situation going on i don't know if you do you see those dudes outside with like the pitchforks when we were coming in i saw a guy with a pitchfork i saw a guy uh with uh you
Starting point is 00:02:44 know a hatchet. I saw an old lady carrying a stick of dynamite. I just knew. You see that tall dude with the fucking cow skull and a red robe? I did see those guys, and it's just hard to know who's part of the whack pack here at SiriusXM
Starting point is 00:02:56 and who's just a guy. But those guys are here for sure. Wow. So I guess I have La Plaga. That's great. That's just what I need right now. Again, you guys are hearing this in Spanish, so I don't know how much you're comprehending, but boy. We get all of it.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Okay. I took Spanish for two years. I understand. Yes, I understand it and speak it. It sucks that we have to suplex him well I'm gonna have to suplex you yeah well don't suplex
Starting point is 00:03:27 don't suplex me I'm gonna fucking bend you in half bitch he'd take you to a fucking suplex town bitch don't suplex me just cause I have a little I have a disease I can't control that this is no
Starting point is 00:03:40 this is and I hate to get political uh huh this is what Fauci should have been doing. He should have been recommending that we just pick these sick fucks up, bang them on their head, show them what for. I've been saying online for so long,
Starting point is 00:03:56 we need to fucking kneecap these old women in the knees and then shank them right in the throat and then suplex them into their friends. Hey, speaking of friends, I'm just going to let some guests in here real quick. No, I don't have guests! Oh, no! We escort the president's daughter
Starting point is 00:04:19 in shotgun blast El Gigante as we play You Play the Resident Evil 4 Remaster this week on Get Played. Thank you. Welcome to Get Played, your one-stop show for good games, bad games, and every game in between. It's time to get played? I'm Nick Weiger, along with Matt Apodaca. Hello, everyone. Hello, everyone. Oh, try that on for a size.
Starting point is 00:05:34 How do you like that? How do you like that? Yeah. Just two hosts here, that's right. Yeah. Because Heather Ann Campbell is out this week and next. She's on her honeymoon. Congratulations.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Yes. To Heather and to Mary and to the institution of marriage. Yeah. Another another W for the institution of marriage. We'd love to see it. We have Matt.
Starting point is 00:05:55 We have a fantastic guest host here. Yes. You know, you and I were like, where are we going to find? We're already fucking scared. What are we going to do? Where are we going to find someone who loves video games? Yeah're already fucking scared. What are we going to do? Where are we going to find someone who loves video games, loves anime, has written for Rick and Morty?
Starting point is 00:06:10 Yeah, exactly. What are we going to do? We're in a loss here. We don't know anybody like that. And yeah, this was just obviously, we knew who we had to call, baby. Thankfully, this fell into our laps. A writer and comedian for Rick and Morty, She-Hulk attorney at law, Miles Morales, Spider-Man, and Futurama, returning to the show,
Starting point is 00:06:26 Cody Ziegler is here. What's up, Cody? Hello, bingo boingo baby. Oh, bingo boingo baby. Zieg's in the house. Drop it. Bingo boingo. Those alliterations,
Starting point is 00:06:35 that's what they brought to the Rick and Morty table. Okay. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I remember the episode where they're both saying bingo boingo.
Starting point is 00:06:41 They go to bingo bongo world. Yeah. And that's it. It's more of a, it's more of a conceptual episode. Yeah. But the feeling, the emotions are there.
Starting point is 00:06:50 The structure is tight. Yeah. Yeah. The story circle. Yeah. You gotta have the story, the story circle. That's what it's all about.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Zig, you just returned from where Heather is right now, Japan. That is true. Yes. It is the most fun I've ever had. Uh, anytime ever. Wow. It was, I mean, I was explaining to you guys off mic. Yes. It is the most fun I've ever had any time ever. Wow.
Starting point is 00:07:09 I mean, I was explaining to you guys off mic. Yeah. So for those who don't know, Los Angeles, people think of it just like a city, which it is because it's all about the people here. But it's not like there's like, oh, I'm in Los Angeles. Like, no, you're in Hollywood. You're in Silver Lake. It's a bunch of smaller neighborhoods that make up the greater city of Los Angeles and Los Angeles County. And that is sort of the same thing with Tokyo.
Starting point is 00:07:30 So there's like 23 or 30 wards or whatever. Basically thinking there's like boroughs, like New York, like five boroughs. Sure. But everyone is Queens, Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan, and of course, Staten Island. Oh, you're a real New Yorker now. Yeah, you know I am. You're walking here. You pulled walking here. You pulled my slice.
Starting point is 00:07:49 It's like that, but every district. I love Mayor Rudy Giuliani. Wait a minute. He was America's mayor. You got to admit, the city got cleaned up. You got to admit. Maybe you should break a few more windows is all I'm saying. The thing about Tokyo, though, is that like every like little neighbor, Tokyo was like made up of little neighborhoods,
Starting point is 00:08:08 but every neighborhood is like the size of fucking Manhattan. So it's like this district, this district, I was in Shinjuku, which is like the red light district. So it's like, imagine Manhattan, but nothing but bars and like cool 24 hour arcades and like,
Starting point is 00:08:21 like nightclubs. And, but then I wanted to go to like, which you guys would probably appreciate, which is like the video game anime like pop culture district called akibara so imagine like you got the subway that's just like high rise after high rise after high rise with like anime waifus or like super mario it's whatever you could want it's there it's a fantastic place it just sucks to hear stuff like that because like we could just live like that here too. We could.
Starting point is 00:08:46 We could have easy and cheap public transportation. Go to another neighborhood. It was great. I highly recommend it. The highlight was definitely – well, there are two highlights. One was riding the bullet train and listening to Miyazaki's soundtrack. That was a great build. But also we went to the Gundam factory, which is like they have a real life size, like I think 19 meter, because they don't use freedom units, 19 meter high real life animatronic Gundam. And they have like a whole museum dedicated to like how it works, like it actually walks.
Starting point is 00:09:21 It's like, I believe it's the host of Guinness Book book of world records like the largest actual animatronic built wow wow you can go up and see it it's fantastic um that was really really cool i'm horrified to learn that it works yeah that's frightening but they also it if you go online and watch any of the videos they speed it up pretty good because it really is like slowly moving out, but it is cool seeing, um, uh, a giant, basically like rock them,
Starting point is 00:09:49 sock them, robot walk and talk in front of you. It's really, really, really, really cool. Um, I highly recommend anyone that's into that type of stuff go.
Starting point is 00:09:56 And even if you're not into like the pop culture of all, like just experiencing the culture of like, you know, it's, it's a really good city that, um, sort of incorporates, um,
Starting point is 00:10:04 a good mix of like metropolitan stuff, but then like nature, like that sort of incorporates a good mix of like metropolitan stuff. But then like nature, like a lot of parks, a lot of like gardens, all of his dirt cheap, very walkable. Like it was one of the best trips I've had in a very, very long time. I think everyone on this podcast would very much enjoy going there. Yeah. You had me at bullet train, honestly. Yeah. Because you love guns.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Well, yeah. The bullet was the most appealing part. Wait, I do want to ask about the train, yeah. The bullet was the most appealing part to me. Wait, I do want to ask about the train, though, because that's the thing. Like, you know, I take the I read the choo choo here in Los Angeles. We have a decent public transit system, but it's obviously nothing like a lot of, you know, overseas territories. Yeah. What was that experience like and how does it compare? Like, also, I'm curious about, like, any of the intra-city rail.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Yeah, it's really cool. is it like also i'm curious about like any of the intra-city rail yeah it's really cool um uh you know when i think of like trans public transportation in america i'm sure most people say the same thing it's usually like east coast like i feel like new york's probably the one that has it down the best right you know as far as like you can get you know just about anywhere within the tri or in the the area yeah within the five boroughs. The Bronx. The Brooklyn. Queens. Manhattan. And Staten Island. But with Japan specifically,
Starting point is 00:11:11 by specifically I mean like Tokyo is mainly where we're staying. It was like, I don't speak the language, but I was able to crack the system in like two and a half days. Wow. So like,
Starting point is 00:11:22 without getting into the whole minutia of it, if you're a foreigner going over there and visit, you can get a thing called a Jr path, which is just like, here's like 200 bucks. This is basically a ticket that can get you on the bullet trains or certain like Metro lines for 14 days. And you pay one sub,
Starting point is 00:11:38 you can go take unlimited rides. And then you have like, sort of like what their version, like a Metro card, like a Suka card or a pass mode. Uh, but I put like, you know, maybe a hundred bucks US on it. And I was there for two weeks and I still had 50 bucks American left on it.
Starting point is 00:11:53 So like, and I took no taxis. I got everywhere. You can get anywhere in about 30 or 40 minutes. Like I, we went from Tokyo to Osaka, which is like 250 miles away. And like bullet train was there in two and a half hours. Like it was, it was beautiful. Like my big, like dumb American, ugly American takeaway was like, I love public transportation. Like I've been transportation peeled.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Yeah. And I've been really making a effort to just like walk places now. Like I walked to my grocery store now, like walk to my post office because they're like, I mean, we were lucky that everything was flat. So it wasn't like you're struggling, but like, you know, I was walking like 16,000 steps a day, like seven, eight miles. And it didn't feel crazy because like you're experiencing things like you're
Starting point is 00:12:30 doing two or three big events a day, but you're seeing like, you know, in one, one, like two hours, you can go to like a, an aquarium.
Starting point is 00:12:37 You can go to like a beautiful, like emperor's palace garden that they made. And then you can go get some, like go to like an arcade and play street fighter and get fucking worked over by some 12 year old kid and all this stuff going it's like i truly um have been made much more of an effort to like uh uh lean into like public transportation yes when i can but also just like walking around because i'm lucky that i live in a part of the city that is pretty walkable like I'm between multiple grocery stores, multiple drug stores,
Starting point is 00:13:07 everything that I sort of need, and I'm lucky in that regard. Some people live in a walkable, I guess whatever that equivalent of a food desert is for walkability. So I've really come back and taken that away, and it's been fantastic. I truly gained so much from that trip,
Starting point is 00:13:19 not only from nerd shit, but also like, oh, you can have this type of stuff in a city. You can enjoy a city without having to be relying on a car. And, you know, I love, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:28 I love my car. I love cars in general, but like, I do enjoy like, here's $5. I can take a bus and like, not pump out like fucking ton of carbon dioxide for the day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:38 I also like, I, I personally don't like driving. Like it gives me anxiety. I try to drive as little as possible, but I do live in a, a decently walkable area. Like a little Mario mario kart right you're always just free of hitting like banana pills yeah yeah i like i was if i have three red shells like circling me like i feel
Starting point is 00:13:53 a little bit more secure but i don't always have that so you know and that only gets so far too you know exactly and sometimes someone hit me with like squid ink and i can't see what the hell's going on there uh but i like i i take the I have my frustrations with L.A.'s public transit, even though it's gotten better. But, you know, I try to get as much as possible and try to walk as much as possible. There is just the reality of it. Like it extends your trip by so much. Yeah. And so public transportation.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Yeah. Take public transit in L.A., but it's like the opposite. And, you know, a more functional state. Yeah. It's been in L.A., but it's like the opposite and, you know, a more functional state. Yeah. With, again, all of this is sort of based around I really have two points of experience with just like New York and Tokyo now. But, like, you know, Google Maps is going to save your life if you're there because it has everything down to a T. Like, you know, the Fukutoshin line, Platform 2, these are the times that come.
Starting point is 00:14:43 They're always literally on time like there was not a point where it's like you know fucking l train in new york it's 15 minutes behind like it was there like that every single time so like it just made things so much easier but also like it says driving was usually like 40 minutes train 35 like it's just it's such a detriment to like drive there unless you have to um but also like i understand the realities like i'm from north korea a very small rural town like so if you're not in a system or not a place where like we had a sort of infrastructure like yeah it makes sense why you would drive because the nearest for us like the nearest grocery store was like a 20 minute drive away it's your only option in a
Starting point is 00:15:16 lot of the country there aren't sidewalks there's you know and instead of instead of walkable you know streets there's the what the the portmanteau i've heard is strodes there's yeah it's these hybrid street and roads where it's just like they're just for automobile traffic basically and you're like walking on the shoulder yeah you know what's so funny so from my i'm uh my hometown is a place called wanted cove north carolina and there was a bunch of strodes very very rural place but they did this thing like two years ago where they just i guess the mayor of the town just decided to put in a sidewalk on one side of the street. And it went from being no one out to like seeing people taking jogs and strolls and all it's, and it's just like maybe a mile worth of sidewalk.
Starting point is 00:15:53 But like even putting that in, you're like, oh wow. Like, yes, people are going to actively use this. Like my, I would like walk to like the grocery store and like, I would go for like my runs on this, like one, literally just like left side of the road sidewalk. But like, it is added so much to like the town and you feel like, I would go for like my runs on this, like one, literally just like left side of the road sidewalk. But like, it is added so much to like the town and you feel like, Oh, it's lived in because you can be a part of the community.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Uh, so like, I definitely, um, I've definitely come back and that's going to be like a little banner that I guess I'm going to be, be, be,
Starting point is 00:16:17 be, uh, yelling about for the next little bit. But, uh, I have been, um, definitely kickstarted to enjoy public transit more,
Starting point is 00:16:24 but I do wish that I lived in a place where it was more encouraged and incentivized because it is, you know, like it took me 10 minutes to get here in my car. Right. Cause public transit patient would do like 35 and like, it's not convenient to walk to, like I would have to have walked, you know, I'm a physically, I I'm physically active. So it would have been easier for me, but like, if you're like wheelchair bound or like maybe you're older or maybe you just have a busy day, like walking a mile to like a bus stop isn't maybe that method for everyone or isn't a solution for everyone there's an option for for everyone uh i i took the bus here today and it is like it it doubles the length of my trip like i basically have to give myself to to make sure that
Starting point is 00:16:58 i'm on time which i barely was today i have to like give my like allocate an hour which is a little frustrating but then also like and this is unrelated to anything but today like I was at a bus stop and I didn't realize it had a little sign posted that it was closed yeah and the bus stop driver like stopped and like she was very nice but she was also like you know that one's closed you're not supposed to stand there and so I was just in trouble which as an adult is like the worst feeling oh yeah I was in trouble the uncoolest thing. I was waiting. Yeah. You know, my New Year's resolution is to cut back on sugar and add more protein to my diet and stay on track with my fitness goals. And Magic Spoon makes that easier and more delicious than ever.
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Starting point is 00:21:24 I just have so strongly associated with gameplay spaces in the Persona game. It's funny you mention that because there was a point where we're in Shinjuku, which I have not played the Yakuza series, but I think it takes place in sort of like a fictionalized version of that area. It's got a different name, yeah. There was a point where if it was like, oh, I know this area because
Starting point is 00:21:40 I played it in Yakuza 3, and I was like oh, right, okay. So yeah, that ramen shop is like that facsimile is in the video game. So, like, a lot of the point of contact was that. But, like, it was funny because I went there for fun, but also for, like, sort of, like, research, like, my own stuff. And, like, you guys have seen Evangelion. Like, you guys talked about it on Get Enemy.
Starting point is 00:21:58 But, like, there was a point when I was, like, leaving Tokyo, and, like, a lot of, there's sort of, like like this visual through line and, and, and Evangelion where like, you see the angels coming in from like the, there's like weirdly shaped Hills with like the rice pad and stuff. And like riding the train out, I was like, Oh,
Starting point is 00:22:11 this is, this is where this is. Like, this is like, you know, 20 miles outside of, out of Tokyo proper. It's like,
Starting point is 00:22:16 now I know what this point of reference is when they, they're doing these creative things or like, I just saw the, uh, movie, um, Suzume the other day. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:23 I saw that too. Yeah. Beautiful film. And there's a portion where like, they like the, there's this sort of like road trip element where like the lead characters going further and further away. And there's a point where they're like in Tokyo proper and like seeing like the way that they had these like yellow sort of like bumped lines in this on the sidewalks there for people that are visually impaired or like have walking. Yeah. Stuff like seeing that. Oh, yeah. Like, yeah, I know that we're in Tokyo because that's what Tokyo had.
Starting point is 00:22:48 They had this particular type of infrastructure. So it definitely gave a deeper appreciation for all that stuff. But then also, I get to fucking play Tekken 8 at 2 o'clock in the morning after eating ramen all night. It's a really, really, really, really beautiful city. What was the gaming scene like specifically? Because you talked about playing at arcades there. It was – so EVO was also going on at the same time, which I didn't go to EVO because I'm not – I just – I don't need that type of embarrassment publicly.
Starting point is 00:23:15 But so there is this place called Panic Game or something like that or Game Panic. And it was like maybe like a game panic or something game panic and it was like um maybe like a three or four story arcade like bottom level was like gotchas which was like you know that put the coins in and like the um the crane machines second floor was like arcade stuff a lot of it was actually surprised it was more like rhythm based stuff like a lot of like obviously a lot of like 40 50 year old salary men had obviously just gotten off work and they're playing like they're fucking shredding on like their version of guitar hero or like a dude doing like fucking neil pert drum solos and like off in the corner which is i thought was kind of bizarre was just like all the fighting games like tekken um i think there's a couple of street fighter stuff there is
Starting point is 00:23:59 some like gundam like arcadey type games what i you know my interpretation of street of um the gaming community from like the Western perspective is just like, oh, Street Fighter is like the game that everyone plays there. But like, it was very surprising there was very little like Capcom representation there,
Starting point is 00:24:12 which is, you know, that was like my point of view, but like, or that was like probably my point of entry. But like, there are so many places where you could sort of scratch that itch. So if you wanted to go play like, you know, if you wanted to play like,
Starting point is 00:24:24 you know, more traditional 2D fighter type games games like those were those like six-story buildings that you go to to play that um there was a one station that i didn't get to go to i think it's called like taikyo station like that but they had like maybe those old um arcade games like afterburner like you would sit like oh yeah cockpit it was like that but for like gundam games so like they would just have like capsules where you could sit in and play that competitively and get worked over by again a 12 year old on the other side of the country that has been playing every single day it was uh it was it was uh really cool and i wish that we had that version of that here like right whether it's like you know the korean like um cafe like computer or a laptop cafes or whatever where they play like starcraft
Starting point is 00:25:04 and stuff like i maybe there is that but like I really wish there was more, like, public spaces for those type of, like, environments here, like, gaming environments. Like, I'm sure, Nick, you've worked in game development and stuff, but, like, I've, like, I've been to a couple of game studios, like, you know, Riot Games, and, like, they have, like, a whole building in their section on their campus just dedicated to, like, video games. So, like, there's, like, the cafe element. cafe element there's like you know life says mario kart there's like a old like sort of retro 90s arcade with like you know the bowling alley like carpeting on the floor and like every
Starting point is 00:25:34 different every greatest hits of like two-day fighting games you can think of and then they have like a traditional like console room which is like every single console from every single generation and like wow i wish there was more of that here because i think um maybe a lot of people's perspective on video games is like uh solitary like oh yeah go in your room you play like maybe you'll play online but like i think for us growing up a lot of it was like the 2d i think they call it like couch or um two-person like couch co-ops what they call it now but like the idea of like playing with another physical person in the room and like having that communication is like so fun for me i sort of come back around we're like i used to love playing fucking halo 2 yeah oh yeah so much it was so fun but now i'm like i have one
Starting point is 00:26:14 of my best friends moved below me in my apartment like sometimes we'll come up and play like you know street fighter mario's capcom 3 and like playing it in person or like i have an arcade machine in my place like playing like an arcade machine short or short with a friend. Like I miss that feeling so much. Like I hope that we get to a place where we can have this with like public places where people can play video games in public again because it's such a unique feeling. And I think it's sort of been lost over the past couple of years as games have become more solitary. We talked about this on the podcast maybe last week, a couple of weeks ago where someone had a question about just, you knowiving the arcade in the u.s and you know that obviously the barcades exist that's like there's the dave and busters but it is like it's a different sort of experience and i feel like at dave and busters a lot of times it's like either those uh those elaborate sort of more
Starting point is 00:26:57 you know sit down games or it's like a you know a a a 40 inch uh you know led a, a, a 40 inch, uh, you know, led screen. That's, that's just like a version of a mobile game. Yeah. Yeah. It's less exciting. Yeah. I went to a, um, I had a friend that had a wedding and like a bowling alley a couple of months ago. And like me and a buddy, we saw like a, um, an injustice fighting game.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Like, oh my God, they have like an actual arcade injustice game here. And we went in there and it was just like just like uh it was just they had obviously taken a mobile app and blown it up to like 40 inches yeah oh it's i have three buttons it's just card based it's not really fun it's not interactive i like i i i i want a revival of like um of those type of institutions i guess it also aren't tied to like had to be 21 and older to get here right yeah it's it there's no like middle ground it's either like you have to be 21 and older to get here. Right. Yeah. There's no, like, middle ground. It's either, like, you have to be – it's either, like, you're going to get fucked up and drink here or, like, you're, like, stuck at, like, a 12-year-old's birthday party with a bunch of other angry, bitter parents, you know. I had a – because you were talking about the hot seat multiplayer or just, like, you know, like a couch co-op. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:00 In-person multiplayer and like i'm i'm old enough where my era of of college and then the immediate aftermath where you know still living with with roommates yeah uh was it was like was like roughly the era that we're covering with today's game yeah yeah um but like you know the gamecube era the dreamcast era xbox had them had them all uh our apartment, and I, like, yeah, like, playing, like, Soul Calibur, or playing Smash Melee, or one of my favorite gaming experiences ever, and I've talked about it at length of this podcast a number of
Starting point is 00:28:34 times, but I'll just say it again, is just playing through the entire Halo 1 campaign, co-op, with my friend, with my roommate, and we were just, like, sitting next to each other. Like, it's just, it's a bummer that some of that stuff went away there's a little bit of a resuscitation with the we and then when the we came back i felt like oh people are getting together and then also like the the guitar hero rock band era i felt like again oh people are getting together in the same
Starting point is 00:28:56 spaces and yeah yeah i don't know maybe post covid there will be an era where there will be a revival of that because it is such a fun thing i I mean, Matt, you've no doubt had some great experiences. I just very recently was at my friend's house and we played Wii Sports Bowling on the Wii. Yeah. And it was like one of the best nights I've had in fucking months. It was so fun. It was so, we were just like, because we all got to a point
Starting point is 00:29:18 where also we were having some drinks, so we were like, just really like gassed up and like just really like cheering each other on. Just like four dudes just like really just broing out and it got to a point where we all got like two strikes in a row just like in a row we were just going crazy it was so fun you know that meme of like the this is like it has like the little recess monkey that says neuron activated like that is very much the feeling when it's like i have like a i have like a five in one like marvel versus capcom thing in my apartment like one of those like you know it's obviously like a uh raspberry pie one up yeah yeah we have one up
Starting point is 00:29:51 yeah but uh i have a buddy that comes over and like the first time or uh i mean the first time i had like my a girl i was in came over and the first time she did like a hyper combo yeah we got so fucking hype yes just because she shot like a shot like a whatever Ken's fire dragon punch was like that, like that energy cannot be captured over line like being in person like two sweaty adults being so hype over like someone pushing like down right up in the correct direction is like it's such a unique experience. It's the best. Yeah, absolutely. Well, look, we should get to another question for you, Zig, and for Matt, and for me, which is, what are you playing? Oh. What are you, hey, what are we playing? What are we playing? Matt, you want to start?
Starting point is 00:30:38 Yeah, mine's short because I have, I've really, I sunk a lot of time into this game, the game that we're covering today. So I haven't been playing too much, but right now I have a week. I have, well, as of this coming out i have like four days wow before the next game that i'm gonna play is coming out which is a jedi survivor uh the sequel to jedi fallen order i need to wrap some stuff up because i i have not done a great job this year of finishing games i've been bouncing between a lot of things. And you are the finisher. I'm the finisher. That's right. Coffee's for closers. Let me just say,
Starting point is 00:31:11 I don't go a day without my job. Man, Heather would have hated that so much. I was just thinking the same thing. I was just thinking, we're getting away with so much bullshit and it's not fair. The show is actively worse because Heather's not here, and we're just saying whatever we want and loving it. No one's keeping you in check.
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Starting point is 00:32:45 That's code getplayed50 at factormeals.com slash GetPlayed50 to get 50% off. I've only finished two games this year, Kirby and something else. I can't remember what the other game was. Something we play for the show? Metroid Prime, maybe? I haven't finished Metroid Prime, but I'm on the final stretch of that. I actually could look it up right here. Oh, it was Limbo again.
Starting point is 00:33:18 It was Limbo. I hadn't finished Limbo. Do you ever keep a list of stuff that you guys have been watching or taking in? Because I've been started doing that this year. I started doing this like two years ago. I started listing all of the movies, books, and games I finish in a given year. Yeah, I have a list of games I finished starting in the pandemic, thinking that it was going to be over within a certain amount of time,
Starting point is 00:33:39 and it's actively still going. So I still have that list. But I picked Pokemon Fire Red back up on my analog pocket. actively still going um but so i still have that list but i i picked i picked um pokemon fire red back up on my analog pocket and zig you don't have an analog pocket right no no i have um i have a version of that it's not the same thing but um you have a handheld emulator yeah uh this analog pocket is like i think about it a lot and often, I've gotten to a spot now where I'm like, I should just have this on me at all times. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Keep that thing on you. I got to keep that thing on me. Yeah. And cause it's just, it's so fun. It's just the form factor is great. Whenever I take it places where I'm with other people playing games, like friends of mine or whatever,
Starting point is 00:34:20 or like my family, they're always like very interested in it. Like, is it like a game? What's the shape of it? It's the shape of a Game Boy, like a regular Game Boy. So it's not like advanced
Starting point is 00:34:27 like the traditional? Exactly, yeah. And it's just like, it's just such a sleek package. I really love it. But I picked Pokemon Fire Red back up and I'm having this problem
Starting point is 00:34:36 which I don't know, Zig, you've played a lot of Pokemon, I think, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nick, you have played some. I've played some, a little bit.
Starting point is 00:34:43 I'm having this problem right now in my team where one guy is fucking doing all the work. Yeah. Blastoise is going, killing everybody. Yeah. And then the rest of my team is like level 11. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:54 He's like level 40. Yeah. I'm running into it. So I'm having a balance issue because I'm getting to further in the game where Blastoise isn't going to be cutting it for much longer. I'm going to need to beef up some of these other guys. But I'm also not in a position where I want to be grinding.
Starting point is 00:35:10 So what that does is that sort of halts the amount of fun that I'm having, which then makes me bounce to something else. And so I want to finish that. I want to just clean house. Which one is this again? Fire Red. It's the remake for the Game Boy Advance. Yeah. But that's like my nighttime game.
Starting point is 00:35:31 And I've been bouncing between that at night. I bought Divinity Original Sin 2. Wow, that's a big boy. For the Steam Deck. And it was, because people say it's great's great on on on steam deck and i really want to start that but that's not a nighttime thing to me it seems like that's like it's it's pretty involved i'm gonna have to get in there in the waking hours i've started and
Starting point is 00:35:55 abandoned that game after like 10 hours twice it is yeah like i'm playing as like okay this is really good it's really engrossing i don't know if I can commit to this. Yeah. It seems like a lot. It seems like a chalker. Yeah. But like, like I, that's, that just speaks to like how, like I'm, I'm just bouncing between so many things.
Starting point is 00:36:14 I need something to occupy those other times. And I know it's going to be, uh, tears of the kingdom when tears of the kingdom comes out, that's going to be like my forever game. The way in which I'm going to build like a little robot go-kart and just ride around and run over those fucking lizard dudes. Yeah. Like it's going to be, it's going to be beautiful.
Starting point is 00:36:30 I can't wait for that game. Yeah, they don't stand a chance. Yeah, they don't even see it coming. I just want to attach an eyeball to an arrow. Yes. I heard about that mechanic today and I was like, this is,
Starting point is 00:36:38 what are they doing? Yeah. So I'm looking, there's games on the pipeline that I'm going to be playing quite a bit, but I have like a week right now between big releases where I'm going to try to just clean house a little bit. I think that's where I'm at right now. But Nick, do you want to go first or should we ask Zig?
Starting point is 00:36:53 Let's ask Zig. Zig, what are you playing? You know, I sort of, I feel like I always answer these same two games every time you guys ask me, because these are like, I use them as like sort of like palate cleansers. Like, oh, I have 30 minutes, 40 minutes. Let me get like a round in with this like always gundam battle operations 2 and then alien fire team elite but besides those like sort of like you know palette cleanser games i um i have been playing um or i just beat calisto protocol okay um which is a game that like I enjoy like the actual like visuals.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Like it's a beautiful game. Looks fantastic. Great performances. But like when it comes to like the actual gameplay and story, I'm like, I'm not, it's the only game where after dying, like for the,
Starting point is 00:37:38 like the 14th time, I just switched it to easy. Cause like, I just wanted to get it done. Sure. And like, I wasn't having that much fun but i haven't played like a horror game in such a long time that i wanted to give it a shot you know and try like a new because i really enjoyed dead space when it first came out
Starting point is 00:37:54 but i didn't have the best time playing it but like um i just wanted to give a shot but besides that i also matt knows this i rebeat, I replayed The Last of Us. Oh, wow. The first remake, then I played through the second one recently. Again, beautiful games, but devastating on a whole. Yeah. And we'll get into it more when we start talking about today's game. But I think what I've appreciated so much about the Resident Evil 4 remake is that, I sort of mentioned this before we started recording, is that it feels like a video game.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Yes. Evil 4 remake is that I sort of mentioned this before we started recording is that like it feels like a video game where like you're shooting people you're kneecapping like old ladies and then suplexing them through like a bug and they have fun like glitches where they are fun like sort of like troll things where they sort of take them out of games now through game testing but like when like you go to like a
Starting point is 00:38:40 top of a ladder like a guy comes up and you just like pop him in the head and he falls back down like I did that for like 30 minutes last night and it was the most fun i've ever had playing a video game in history like i've had so much fun getting back to like those type of like fun silly video games so like i have sort of played these big emotional roller coasters like that and like the new god of war but so i'm trying to transition back into more like silly fun games where i feel like the arcadeness of it all so like uh those are like my three things I'm sort of playing now. But like if you guys have recommendations for games that sort of capture the feel of like Resident Evil 4,
Starting point is 00:39:12 like the sort of fun arcade games, like please lay them on me. Like that's the dragon I want to be chasing now. We'll talk about RE4 in just a second. But yes, the same sort of feeling of just like, oh, there's just pure fun here. i really i mean are you a from soft guy at all i've i tried sekiro and i got beat by the first giant guy that you fought so i just said fuck it off but then i started playing elden ring and that was the first one i like actually beat like you know you guys have talked about it to death but my experience of Elden Ring is that, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:46 like Breath of the Wild, they just literally toss you into a continent that you can go anywhere that you want to. So I literally spent the first 20 minutes of that game. I was just like walking around fighting things. I didn't fight the first boss until like 25 hours in. So I was like level like 20. So I walked over them and like,
Starting point is 00:40:02 I, I had been so overleveled for most of the game because I had been playing for 20s at that point that I, it wasn't as difficult, I think as it probably would have been if I just did the traditional pass. Like I had a lot of fun with that game. Like I think it had some really interesting like lore and like the monster design is so interesting and I could get into like difficult games more. I think if the, if the gameplay suited what I want,
Starting point is 00:40:22 which is like open world, you can like run away from the scary guy if you want to and then do whatever you want besides that i think about that time when we were all playing elden ring like we as like society yeah yeah and i was like that game made me a different man like i was just like this is like it became my personality in such a way that like that just just doesn't happen. It was such a phenomenon. Yeah, when you roll credits on that game after getting god slayed,
Starting point is 00:40:53 there's no other game that's captured the feeling of, yeah, I did fucking conquer. My girlfriend on her phone has pictures of me fucking cheersing myself in our living room at like 9.30 in the morning because I had to wake up and I was like, I'm just going to beat this guy right now. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. in the morning because I had to wake up and I was like, I'm just going to beat this guy right now. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I talked about recently on the podcast that I finished Sekiro, which was like a mission of mine. And, you know, I set aside time for it and I just kind of kept going at it and getting reps. I absolutely loved it. It's a true masterpiece. Like you,
Starting point is 00:41:19 it took me some time to like get over the hump and hump and like get past the the very steep difficulty curve but once i got it like to me i had the same sort of feeling playing sekiro once i really uh learned the mechanics and the pairing system as i do playing resident evil 4 yeah just like this is just i can get into a flow state it's so fun to take out all these enemies it's so rewarding to like take out a big boss uh i you you talked about or you were both talking about finishing elden ring which i never i did not do i didn't finish it pretty far i mean like i but i i i'm thinking that maybe what i should do with a little bit of time i have before tears of the kingdom comes out is i should try to go back and finish elden ring that's a great idea
Starting point is 00:41:59 i think i'm gonna try to do that that's gonna be my personal goal uh but as far as what i'm playing now uh i will i will say that first off, that Coffee Talk Episode 2, Hibiscus and Butterfly, came out today. It's on Game Pass. I loved the first Coffee Talk. I played the hell out of it. I'm going to be playing some more of that. So that's one thing I'm definitely looking forward to.
Starting point is 00:42:18 And then there was also a game I streamed. If you want to maybe talk a little stream, Daddy. streamed if we want to maybe talk a little stream daddy shout out to jordan again for yeah making that cue really like that like right now maybe one of my biggest incentives to continue to stream is just that we get to play that again yeah and like jordan like in her uh i'm just following orders era like just making this and like just like knocking it out of the park too too. And here's the thing. People love it. People love it. People love it. I have no notes.
Starting point is 00:43:07 That was great. I played a little bit of Loop Hero, which was a game that came out in 2021. When did that come out, Matt? Do you remember? Loop Hero. It's on my radar. I think I have it, and I just have not played it. 2021, that's correct.
Starting point is 00:43:21 I was on Game Pass now, and it's one of those games that I remember in the roundups they were saying like hey this is a check this one out this is really cool and i just never got around to it uh but i got i got around to it a little bit on a a recent stream on twitch.tv slash get played pod and it is basically like you know it's kind of an auto battler you have your the the character that you're uh, not really directly controlling, is walking in a loop through a dungeon. And as he defeats monsters in these sort of pseudo turn-based JRPG combat scenarios, you acquire loot. And then you can equip that loot and improve your character. And then you decide when you're going to end a run and then you also have this little town management aspect that you get to uh you know upgrade your home base which gives you more rewards when you're going through these these loops of these dungeons it's really cool aesthetically like it's got this
Starting point is 00:44:15 this great pixel art look the the the character uh portraits are are you know really well rendered uh it's got great music i should have pulled up a music cue, but it's, I was just like, it was one of those things where I was just like, oh, I'll just never get around to playing this. And then the value of Game Pass
Starting point is 00:44:31 is it just being there. I just got to mess around with it for a few hours on stream and a few hours offline and had an absolute blast. And I think it's, I think if you're just looking for a chill game,
Starting point is 00:44:40 which I'm always seeking out, I'm always seeking out like a kind of game that I don't have to... You kind of have to micromanage it, but it's not like I have to directly control a bunch of stuff. And so I think it absolutely works from that standpoint.
Starting point is 00:44:53 So yeah, I'm going to play some more of it, but I really, really thought it was a hoot. Speaking of chill games, have either of you played Gris? G-R-I-S? No, that was another one on my radar, but I never actually played it. It's a beautiful game game i haven't beat it but for like just like aesthetically like it's all watercolors it's the most beautiful looking game i've ever played yeah um i think you might really really enjoy it stream daddy might approve both both games uh published by devolver
Starting point is 00:45:21 digital oh oh yeah a lot of a lot lot of great indie content comes out of them. Oh, yeah. Let's talk about this week's game. It's time for our We Play, You Play Resident Evil 4 in parentheses 2023, because this is not titled like Resident Evil 4 Remake or Resident Evil 4 Remastered. This is just like the most recent Resident Evil remakes. It's just the title of the original game. Developed and published by Capcom, obviously, and directed, the remake was,
Starting point is 00:45:44 by Yasuhiro Anpo and uh kazunori kadoy uh zig i want to talk about your resident evil like franchise fandom and your relationship to this game in particular so i i'm uh i think we're around right around the same age like my first resident evil was resident evil one director's cut for playstation one i didn't finish it but but I played it and it sounds so crazy now, but back then it was the scariest fucking thing on the planet. The dogs bursting through the windows and the first time you see the zombie turn its head
Starting point is 00:46:14 around, it was terrifying. But the first Resident Evil game I actually completed was Resident Evil 3 Nemesis. I had that for the PS1. I played it through. I loved it. I beat it multiple times. I did even the mercenary minigames or whatever. I did that. the PS1. I played it through. I loved it. I beat it multiple times. I did even like, they had like, I think they had like the mercenary mini games, whatever. I did that.
Starting point is 00:46:27 And then I did Veronica, Code Veronica for the Dreamcast. And then sort of, I took a break for a while. And then when Resident Evil 4, the original came out in like 2005 or something like that. Yes. I remember everyone was like,
Starting point is 00:46:39 this is a complete break from format. No more tank controls. It's like a proper third, third person action, action game. And like, everyone's like, we don't know if it's going to work or not. But like playing it was like some of the most fun I ever had playing a game. It's one of the, was one of those few games I remember going back and beating multiple times because they had so many like fun sort of like loopholes in the game that you don't know unless you like beat it, like rescuing like the dog at the beginning of the game. Or like if you've played the game, you've noticed that the merchant just sells an RPG. Yes. But if you buy the RPG, it one-shots literally any boss. So I remember buying it for the first time, keeping it in my back pocket. And you fight the last boss.
Starting point is 00:47:17 You can just shoot him once and end the game with one shot. I love all that sort of fun goofiness. Gameplay that they put into the game, like video games. So I've been a big fan ever since then and then I sort of dropped off because I think Resident Evil like 5 and 6 are sort of in the same vein but I remember I don't think they like landed as
Starting point is 00:47:34 as well as Resident Evil 4 and then the Resident Evil 7 and like the sort of first person ones were like they seemed more scary like more horror focused and I was looking really craving like that specific Resident Evil 4 type of like action they got a nice balance between the action there was horror elements into it also they got rid of like the umbrella of it all for like a bit which i enjoyed that idea of like the cosmic horror element like these creatures from the from the depths coming up and
Starting point is 00:47:57 doing like the thing right um so like getting asked to play this it was the first resident evil i've seen in a while like i actively like i i think it came out right before i left for japan i put it in my queue on um the ps5 and when i came back i started playing it immediately like i i i love this game so so much that makes me want to go back and replay the resident evil 2 and 3 um remakes that they they just did you and i i'm uh have like a very similar relationship to this franchise, which is that I took a long break. Did you play 7 and 8? Did you play Village? No, the last one I played was 4. Yeah, so I'm basically in the exact
Starting point is 00:48:31 same scenario, and Matt, I want you to weigh in as well, but like, I like Resident Evil along with Final Fantasy 7, seeing those at a friend's house were what motivated me to get a PlayStation 1, my first non-Nintendo console. And I, you know, Resident Evil, Resident Evil 2, Resident Evil 3 were all games I played and really loved on PlayStation 1, although I was kind of fatigued by that point.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Resident Evil Code Veronica I was very hyped for, for the Dreamcast. And then Resident Evil 4 was like, yeah, this is really my last point. For me, the GameCube version was really like my last real anchor point for the franchise. Five and six is similarly checked out of. And then I'd heard such great things about seven and eight. Never got around to them. Same thing with the remakes. Everyone says the Resident Evil 2 remake that came out is like the peak of the franchise.
Starting point is 00:49:17 I still haven't played any of them. But playing this has been like, man, I love Resident Evil. I need to get back into these games. Yeah, I'm back on being a horror head. Yeah, my experience, I've only played Resident Evil 4. That's the only Resident Evil game that I've played. On the GameCube? No, I got it on PlayStation 2.
Starting point is 00:49:36 Oh, that's right. And I was reading about this. Obviously, it was released on GameCube, but then Capcom figured out that it wasn't under an exclusivity thing. They're like, oh, we'll just put it on everything then. And then it's literally on everything. I've purchased it multiple times. I have it on Switch, and I have the VR version, which I tried for a little bit and simply could not.
Starting point is 00:49:58 I will never do that. It was fucked. It's fucked. And also, it looks bad because it's the original. If it looked like this you know original if it looked like this it maybe you would be a little more uh palatable it seems like the game was it just was not built for vr i feel like you could you could um cheese that game so hard oh yeah yeah well i actually don't know because i could i i can't oh i can't i can't fucking do it yeah
Starting point is 00:50:21 once you see the chainsaw guy in the beginning you're like i'm done with this but i so i have not played any other resident evils ever i beat the original i beat or you know a resident evil 4 on playstation 2 and i i was never a scary games guy you know it's well documented that i'm a coward uh famously speak of it often um but for some reason i think because when it came out in 2005 i would have been uh you know 14 going on 15 years old uh and that was when i was in my uh like electronic gaming monthly yeah same like uh like bag and uh like my g4 like watching like x play and like attack of the show yeah like stuff and then everybody was like resident evil 4 resident evil 4 so it was just Evil 4 Resident Evil 4 not unlike Elden Ring it was sort of like a phenomenon
Starting point is 00:51:08 where I was like I should play this game that everybody's talking about and I fell in love with it it was hard but it was very scary it was very scary for me I had never played a horror game before and now that I've played other ones like Silent Hill 2
Starting point is 00:51:24 like we did on the show and there's been a couple other ones that I've just played, like, for fun. Like, they're even, like, just like The Last of Us. The Resident Evil 4, obviously, I'm not saying anything new here, is just an all-time, like, it's just, like, it's as close to a perfect video game as you can get. It's unbelievable. It's such a fucking video game. Yeah. Sorry to interrupt, but as you were saying, it reminded me of what I enjoyed so much about the Metal Gear series. Sure.
Starting point is 00:51:49 There's such a fine, perfect balance between grounded drama. This is a fuck. You're fucking sneaking into Shadow Moses, baby. And also there are going to be some monkeys there. And there's a guy that has chronic crippling diarrhea. Yeah. It's such a balance between serious and stupid and like fun gameplay and it strikes a balance perfectly like the first time you see the chainsaw guy it fucking terrifies you the first time like a little las las plagas
Starting point is 00:52:14 fucking sickle thing pops out of a guy's head it's terrifying but then like you're like driving a jet ski and then like fucking suplexing old Spanish women. Like it's such a crazy video game. Yeah. It's one of those things where to your point about like the kind of like the, the, the atmosphere of it and just kind of the lunacy of what's happening is it's like video games are so interesting because if it, if it didn't have the gameplay element,
Starting point is 00:52:39 like if, if you were just like watching like a bunch of the cut scenes, like strung together in a way that made narrative sense, you'd be like, what is this? This is nonsense. Or there's a fish key. You got to find.
Starting point is 00:52:49 Yeah, exactly. No cube. Yeah. And also like some, so much of the dialogue is so corny. I know they revised some of it and it's, it's like,
Starting point is 00:52:56 just like feels like a B movie versus the cinematics of like the last of us. And you string those together. It's like, it feels like what it turned into, which is prestige TV. But it, but like, but you add the gameplay to this and the gameplay is so fucking good that this is just like this is a 10 out of 10 masterpiece yeah i i just because like you'll you'll like
Starting point is 00:53:14 there's like a cart like a mine cart racing section where like yes you're like have to go we're going off the rails you got tilt left and like you're shooting like for some reason they send out i don't know why but they send out the chainsaw guy yeah he can't physically reach you next to like a minecart like it turned into full looting tunes and then it goes into like you're like knife fighting an ex-commando guy that taught you like it they hit so many random beats that should not make any cohesive sense but they all land perfectly within the game that that minecart ray uh it's a section which they've revised a little bit and then like Luis is with you who wasn't with you in the original game for that part. And like they've expanded it.
Starting point is 00:53:49 It's so manic. It's so frantic. It's like not really all that challenging. So you just kind of get to enjoy the spectacle of it, which was the thing that Gretchen and Clank Future did really well. Just like having these segments where it's just you're just flying through something. Yeah. And there's just a barrage of stuff coming at you i don't know it was like it just it made me i mean it's it's it's an obvious comparison but it made me think of like the sheer joy of like those donkey kong country yeah like minecart
Starting point is 00:54:14 levels and it's just like oh man this is just so fun i'm just having like the time of my life i mean like imagine that section in the last of us yeah what'd be like, this is dog shit. This fucking sucks. Ellie! No time for comic books, Ellie. We gotta get on this minecart. We're gonna tip over, Ellie. It'd be so shitty in a different game, but because it's in this game that's crazy, it rocks. Is that guy with a pig mask have a crossbow? What the fuck is going on?
Starting point is 00:54:40 And there's so many things in this game too that, like, obviously it's a horror game and it's a horror franchise.'s like there's so many things in this game too that like obviously it's a horror game it's a horror franchise there's like scary shit in it but on the flip side of that there's stuff in it that's so fucking funny it's so funny well okay so you talked about the dog earlier you arrest you a dog and then he goes and he helps you in a boss fight but there's a line that he has that leon has which has been has been memed a bunch but but he's just like, hey, it's that dog.
Starting point is 00:55:07 He recognizes a dog he met. But also the dog is like, I better help this guy. But also that delivery and that perilous, he's got this gigantic 40-foot-tall monster attacking him with a gigantic hammer, and then
Starting point is 00:55:23 the dog shows up. He's like, how about that? I know this one. This game, so a little bit of the history of the original RE4, we kind of talked about it a little bit, but it had a six-year development cycle. They started developing it in 1989, apparently. Huge changes to the franchise with the over-the-shoulder camera, the camera-relative character control, and Hideki Kamiya, who was the original director of Resident Evil 4,
Starting point is 00:55:47 he left the project, went on to make Devil May Cry and a bunch of other stuff. So it cycles through a couple of other directors and then goes back to Shinji Mikami, who directed the original Resident Evil and then also the Resident Evil 1 remake that was on GameCube.
Starting point is 00:56:01 And he reworks, like he basically has all the the the the gameplay innovations that make this game what it is which to me I'm always like I'm just kind of amazed that that worked out that way because you think about like okay we're gonna go back to the original director who created this series and like just put it in his hands and then for him to
Starting point is 00:56:18 have like kind of like the the vision to be like what we had before isn't working in today's you know video game industry and so i'm just gonna like like figure out some new things it plays completely different controls completely different from the first uh few resident evils but it's like it's just so good that the fans like all connected with it and i think this the the changes they've made from the original for this remake are really good uh you know the only one I don't love is auto-sorting your case, because I think
Starting point is 00:56:46 there's such, like, a game element in this, like, the game within the game of, like, trying to figure out how to micromanage your inventory, which I really like. They did that in Diablo as well. Like, they made, like, just sort of, like, an auto-sort and it just, like, makes it a little less fun. I kind of like that. But you can
Starting point is 00:57:02 still, like, even in the auto-sort, like, if you're trying to buy something, it'll still auto-sort to, like, where you don't have room, but, like, you can see how it could fit. So you do have to, like, cheese it a little bit. But, like, I guess also, speaking of the changes, I hadn't played the original in so long. Yes.
Starting point is 00:57:19 This was basically a completely new game to me. Like, I forgot so much of it. And, like, I remembered some of the, like, I remembered, like, I forgot so much of it. And, like, I remembered some of the, like, I remembered, like, Ramon and things like that. Ramon's so funny. But, and I remembered, like, I guess I, I didn't remember there being bugs.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Yeah, me either. Bugs was, like, new to me. But I'm sure they're there. There were, so there were bugs, but, like, the bugs crawling into, you know, the villagers and, like, taking over them, that's a new element. And they were also represented in a different way. I think they were bugs but like the the bugs crawling into you know the villagers and like taking over them that's a new element and they were also represented
Starting point is 00:57:47 a different way I think they were just like invisible instead of like you know kind of camouflaging into the environment yeah but I mean I I one of my favorite additions was the like the weapon wheel I love a good weapon oh sure like just being able to like quick select something
Starting point is 00:58:03 is and it's also so satisfying. The one thing that I was saying this on, I might have said it on Discord. I wish when you are picking up elements for crafting, you know how like in The Last of Us, it makes that like sound like you have enough stuff to craft something. I wish there was an indication or something like that because I'd be picking stuff up. I'm oh surely i have enough gunpowder it's like oh no i don't have uh resources small yeah yeah i don't have that yeah my i mean it's such a dumb you know but my was like well large that's gonna be broken down into small right yeah yeah surely make i can make double with large right yeah yeah yeah i mean it is i think it's just such a video game ass thing to be like, there are large and small resources. I need some small resources.
Starting point is 00:58:50 But it's, I mean, I got this at launch and I think I rolled credits on it last night. I'm on chapter 14 right now. You're on chapter 14? Where are you? I'm at chapter, I just started 13. Okay. So we're pretty far. We're towards the end.
Starting point is 00:59:07 Yeah. There's 16 total. I just got the, um, the infrared scope. Okay. Oh, that fucking scope.
Starting point is 00:59:16 Yeah. Great scope. The great, I, I kind of with my weapons, I kind of kept it pretty basic. Um, there was opportunities to upgrade to a different rifle or like an automatic rifle that I just simply would not change my single shot rifle.
Starting point is 00:59:31 So I'm a big explorer. I always like to go down. I just look around things. I've somehow – there's just like an AR-15 that you just get in the game. Oh, yeah. So I got the AR-15 and they're like semi-automatic rifle so my my loadout is like i have the top like the upper direction was like rifles so i got i keep that thing on me i got the ar 15 it doesn't stand for it doesn't stand for armor light then i have uh i think it's called like the killer 7 which is just like yes
Starting point is 00:59:59 it's like the fucking cobra gun yeah yeah and then like my i did the dlc so i have um i whatever the pistol is that has like a sort of extended clip i got that okay i keep that i got the uh the street sweeper like automatic shotgun nice and i keep those grenades on me at all times yeah the i the gun i the pistol i primarily use i think it's the red 15 the red nine red nine that was like the one that um it sort of has it has a stronger aim assist. It sort of will lock on to a target if you're... Well, you can get an upgraded shoulder mount that makes the aiming a little bit better,
Starting point is 01:00:34 but it has a pretty... It's just so powerful. It just packs so much of a punch. And it's also just like, the fun of this game is you have these encounters. Some of them maybe go on a little too long but generally just fighting like a regular enemy is just so satisfying in this game yeah you know one of them the someone's sort of creeping up towards you uh with a pitchfork and then you
Starting point is 01:00:55 shoot them in the knees a couple of time and then you sprint up to them and like you know knock them to the ground and then stab them with a knife or or fucking hit them with a suplex you want to talk about perfect gameplay loop yeah it. It's like whenever like I don't think they had stealth in the original right. No they did. The stealth kills where
Starting point is 01:01:08 it was a new addition. Yeah. I kind of like I have enjoyed that but this is the one of the few games where like I have the option for stealth that I usually go loud where
Starting point is 01:01:15 like when like there is this one section where you're like you're going up like a clock tower and like there is this like old lady running at me with a pitchfork and like if you pulled a
Starting point is 01:01:23 lever it'll just drop like a Looney Tunes spike ball. So, like, I ducked around her and, like, just dropped the spike ball and, like, watched them all get crushed. Yeah. But there's this thing that they do where, like, they're running downhill and they have, like, you know, some figures going. So if you just kneecap them, they'll just tumble down the stairs. And, like, that has brought me such joy in that video game. Like, shooting old ladies in the leg as they, like, tumble down the stairs or, like, watching, like, guys climb up a ladder slowly and then, like, shooting them in the shoulder and watching them tumble down the stairs or like watching like guys climb up a ladder slowly and then like shooting them the shoulder and watch
Starting point is 01:01:47 them fall down and like hit three other guys below them like that's like the perfect gameplay loop for me yeah once i figured out like early early on when i started once i like figured out that you can just knock them down by shooting them in the leg i was doing that to every single person it's really fun and it's great that's great that it's not just like, because so many games with guns, it's just like headshots are all that matter. Everything else is a waste of ammo. And here, there's just like, you know, you could shoot someone. Someone's got like a burning torch they're going to throw at you.
Starting point is 01:02:16 You can shoot it out of their hand and it lights them on fire. That's super satisfying. So funny. Or like a stick of dynamite that you could shoot and blow them up. Yeah, that's funny. And also just shooting someone in the head has its own satisfaction because that usually staggers someone, and then you can hit them with a roundhouse kick, which is so absurd. Other people that are next to the knife. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:32 And you can parry. The parrying is another new element, and that I think is really fun. I wish the knife didn't break. I find that a little bit annoying, but I understand why they did it just as a cash sink. But I think all the knife revisions are really fun. And the one thing I'd heard is that upgrade your knife all the way, first thing, and I did that and I found it so
Starting point is 01:02:53 satisfying. The parrying, I think, is great. Especially guys coming out with a chainsaw and then you parry it, and it's one of those, like, you must hit that parry or else you'll get a death animation. It's so satisfying to have Leon just holding his knife and holding back the whirring blade of a chainsaw so i don't know if you guys what level difficulty you guys played on i had to play the default i had to play it on the easiest one because i just like could not fathom um being like overwhelmed by enemies or
Starting point is 01:03:21 anything this is one of the few games where i do feel like, wow, there's a lot, they keep coming. Like, how many more of their colleagues have they seen me murk for them to keep sending bodies at me? Because there are so many ways. There was a certain point where, like, you know, I was, like, someone threw an axe, I parried it. A dude with, like, a pitchfork came out of nowhere,
Starting point is 01:03:37 I parried that and, like, fucking suplexed him into his best friend. And then, like, out of nowhere, like, these, like, blind guys with with like fucking wolverine claws like burst out of the wall and come at me like there are this is one of the few games where like i think it's a sort of strike the perfect balance between like there are too many fucking guys i have just enough ammo to get through this and this is like normal difficulties like doing this on like professional whatever like the higher up is like it seems so unfun for me at this particular point in life in my life had you guys encountered um
Starting point is 01:04:06 i think the scariest uh enemies in the in the game the regenerators oh yeah yeah yeah i just got to them yeah i fucking hate they become manageable at a certain point when you get this um you get a a scope yeah a thermal scope yeah uh a. A thermal scope so you can see their beating hearts inside of them and then destroy those one by one because they have three hearts and sometimes one of those will migrate up to their head. Yeah, and they become iron maidens when they get the one in their head. But those guys are so scary because before you have that you can't kill them yeah and if you try to shoot them you shoot them in the legs to try to run away from them they just slither
Starting point is 01:04:50 around on the ground it's so nasty you can you can i believe dismember them yeah i think you did that like like i i knocked up and you can also can parry some of their attacks which is really satisfying because you know you could use the knife to hit one of their wailing limbs but it's just like yeah there's no way to kill them unless you to hit one of their wailing limbs but it's just like yeah that there's no way to kill them unless you take out each of their individual hearts you can't even use explosives yeah which it i don't know i like it i like how tense that is i also it's like something you were just talking about like i love scarcity as a mechanic like i love that you just don't have enough ammo all the time there was a point in one encounter where i just basically ran
Starting point is 01:05:24 out of almost everything. And it was like, I just had my knife and like a few throwables. And it was just like, it was tense and scary. And I prevailed. And it was just like, this is so fucking fun. And I kind of wish there were more. I do because I like Matt. I'm a bit of a coward and I don't love like horror games, which is partly why I went away from the Resident Evil franchise.
Starting point is 01:05:42 But I love not having enough shit. You know what I mean? And so, like, I wish there were more games like this. Honestly, I'll take a recommendation from a listener. If anyone has an idea for a game that has this feeling of just like you don't have enough resources, but it doesn't have the horror element. This is one of the few games that I played where I feel like I actually have a use for flashbang grenades.
Starting point is 01:06:01 Yes. Oh, they're so good. There's a section where I had like five bullets left in my handgun. Yeah. And then like two flashbang grenades. So like I threw the grenade and like it stuns everyone and then you can just like fucking stab them in the head and take them all out. But like this was one of the few games where like that was fun.
Starting point is 01:06:16 We're like, oh, I have like the only have my knife. Like you can you feel like you can get through things with that. Yeah. I think this is I think that if you beat the game you get on a certain level you get like infinite ammo so i give a cheat for infinite ammo like this is one of those games where like i want to beat it through like this and then go back and play it with that sort of cheating involved and then just like spray through everyone i wanted to roll i rolled credits and i wanted to start a new game immediately when i was done yes this
Starting point is 01:06:42 game is like so and i know that they're to be adding DLC. I didn't get to mess around with the Mercenaries mode much, but I know that you can unlock the best game or the best gun in the game by doing that before you start the game, which I think is pretty cool. And I think that they're going to
Starting point is 01:07:00 add, because in the PlayStation 2 version there's a section that you can play as Ada Wong. I think they're going to add that to this package at some point. add because in the playstation 2 version there's a section that you can play as ada wong um i think they're gonna um add that to this to this package at some point um but i just with this it's like it hasn't left my ps5 yet i don't know if it will it's it's it's it's so great i got past the point where it was still scary to me. Because obviously I finished it. It becomes not scary once you get further along and you just have more weapons, right? Oh, I remember what I wanted to talk about.
Starting point is 01:07:34 We got to talk about Ashley. Yes. Come on! Because, yeah, in the original, Ashley is sort of like, is a meme now. People sort of, she was like the, what do you call it? Damsel in distress. is a meme now. People sort of, she was like the, the, like the,
Starting point is 01:07:47 what do you call it? Damsel in distress. The damsel in distress. The S, you know, the people found her annoying. The birth of the escort mission, kind of,
Starting point is 01:07:54 right? Yeah. And honestly, like the escort feeling, the escort part of that mission feeling like all encompassing. It's like, I have to micromanage her health.
Starting point is 01:08:03 I have to be, I have to really be conscious of what she's doing at all times. She gets in my in my way here it's kind of been simplified a little bit yes she can still get in still kind of annoying when like she gets captured she's like help me and then like you accidentally shoot her because like like the amount of most of her deaths have been because i've had the submachine gun and she's been carried off and i accidentally hit her right like she's been dropped and like i guess it penetrates through the guy into her that it was like, it was just frustrating enough to be like
Starting point is 01:08:28 at least Ellie got out of the way of Joel and vice versa. Well, yeah, I think that is the thing of like, I wonder if there was whatever, I'm not going to backseat, you know, drive this development cycle, but I do wonder if there was a version. Which you famously love to do. Well, I love to do.
Starting point is 01:08:44 I love to tell developers to crunch more. But I wonder if there was a version where, yeah, she was a little bit less helpless. Maybe you remove the incapacitation thing altogether and just, you know, I don't know. It is kind of that you can't hide her in lockers in limited situations, which is very fun. There is one section when the first time you fight like the two chainsaw sisters and like I fought't know. It is kind of that you can hide her in lockers in limited situations, which is very there is one section when the first time you fight like the two chainsaw sisters.
Starting point is 01:09:07 And like I fought them once. I don't think I got killed, but she got actually got killed. And then I realized that you can just like stick her in the locker upstairs where no one can touch her. Then like you make short work of it. But like I love again, I love those type of cheesy things that they leave in games or that, you know, gamers are going to abuse absolutely 1000%. Yeah. Yeah. I like the section where you get to play as her yeah i don't know i don't remember if that's in the original it is and they they reworked it a little bit the lantern is it is different and
Starting point is 01:09:36 then the um though the the knights the way like the like those are like a there's like a different enemy in there so like it's a little bit more active it's a it, it's yeah. I think that's, that's a pretty fun little, cause like sections like that, where you play as like the not playable character or the, the non combat character, like in, like in the Spider-Man game, when you play as Mary Jane,
Starting point is 01:09:55 I'm always like, well, this is like a slowdown. It's like, there's a stealth mission, but I love that lantern. Yeah. Lantern is fun.
Starting point is 01:10:02 Good lantern. I wish I had the lantern in. I wish Leon could have the land. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like I. I wish I had the lantern in, I wish Leon could have the lantern. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, like I, I mentioned this before we started recording, but like speaking of memes, like have you guys seen the,
Starting point is 01:10:12 the Ashley mice memes? I have not seen this. Was someone just, they just started to draw Ashley as like a mouse. So it's a lot of her like asking Leon for special cheeses. And I couldn't get that out of my mind. There's one section in particular where she's like on a ledge and she'll just keep saying Leon until you answer her. And like I kept picturing that, but she has like a little mouse head and like a little cheese next to her.
Starting point is 01:10:37 I could not get that out of my mind. That's cute. This one right here. I'll hold it up so Nick can see it. It says, I crave cheese, Leon. I'll hold it up so Nick can see it. It says, I crave cheese, Leon. And then the merchant says, I got some rare cheese on sale, stranger.
Starting point is 01:10:52 Adorable. Help me, Leon. It's like it's absolute nonsense. But it's very funny. It truly is like the encapsulation. If you showed this to a Victorian child, they would die. Because they had no idea how to process this. The meme I saw that got recirculated a lot when the game launched is just Leon S. Kennedy talking to Biden about his daughter. That's the other thing.
Starting point is 01:11:20 It's such a funny plot in this game. that like it's so it's such a funny plot yeah this game is that like uh leon um in the aftermath of the incident at raccoon city is now like a special forces operative working for the president to get his daughter back he was famously like it was like literally his first day on the job at the raccoon police department he had the worst day first possible, did a bad job, is now hired by the president to get his daughter. Yeah, I think the Ashley reworks are pretty good. You know, I think the... I hate
Starting point is 01:11:54 that you can't look up her skirt. That's so stupid. Why'd they change that? The only... It's not just La Plaga, it's the woke mind virus, too. Go woke, go broke. I also like, this is the thing,
Starting point is 01:12:09 and this is just a Resident Evil convention, and I don't know if it's in the more modern ones, but I love the dumb little puzzles. And I say that with so much affection. It's just dumb to have a little, like, you know, pictograph you have to put in the right order in the middle of a church to unlock a door. None of make any sense like none of them are hard they're all like very straightforward but they're so fun there's a there's a puzzle that you have to do to progress
Starting point is 01:12:34 to get through a door that's just like lining up dots and it's like this is so fucking stupid my favorite one of those is um you have to like get like a serpent's head to put a statue. But to get to the serpent's head, you have to go to a dining hall and look at a portrait and then match that portrait for you and for Ashley and then ring the bell at the same time. And my thought process was like, what medieval security guy was like, I got an idea. We're going to get two portraits, love. Put them on the wall and match them to get through the secret Griffin head or whatever. Oh, I was texting you about this too, Zig. Because the villagers in this game, obviously they speak Spanish and they have sort of a rotating list of phrases that they say.
Starting point is 01:13:17 ¿Dónde estás? I guess I speak very limited Spanish, so stuff like that I get. But I didn't know what Forastero was, and they were just yelling, Forastero! And I looked it up, and it's just stranger. And I was like, if I was somewhere and they were just yelling stranger at me, I'd kill myself. I'm like, this is not going to end well for me. Yeah, I was taking this, I was using this game as an excuse, because I think it came out right when I was about to graduate high school. I'm like, Mom, Dad, this is totally educational.
Starting point is 01:13:48 They speak Spanish. I'm taking Spanish. Like, please, I got this. But like, but they say like maybe five or six phrases that they just looked up, like, intro to Spanish. Donde esta? Muerto! Glores a las plagas. It's, um,
Starting point is 01:14:03 I will say this game ages so much better because it's set in Spain and not like South America it would feel a lot worse yeah the one where you're like go to Africa and shoot them I remember like yeah that game that's not getting a remake it's gonna be hard to like justify that one yeah also like
Starting point is 01:14:20 that one was like PS3 right like it would make sense for them to like remake ps3 games because it's like it doesn't you can't play it on anything but it's also like so recent like they're not gonna they're gonna get to a point where they're not gonna have any more games to remake you know what i mean i wonder because they've already remade resident evil twice like the original resident one they remade it oh that's right and and like they're they obviously i thought they were gonna stop at three i thought they were going to stop at 3.
Starting point is 01:14:45 I thought they were going to just have the PlayStation 1s, but then they were like, oh, let's remake 4, which I also was like, I feel like you can just kind of play the HD version, you know, on Steam, and it kind of holds up. But I'm really glad they did this remake. I would not be surprised if they remade the entire series and then just started again. I wouldn't mind if they, like, just made up a new sequel to Resident Evil 4 with Leon, like just like expand on his story a little bit. Like I know he probably comes back in later ones,
Starting point is 01:15:10 but I just love, I love Leon. I love Leon so much. He's like, he's like Denji from Chainsaw Man level dumb. Yeah. He's a fucking idiot. That's fucking weird.
Starting point is 01:15:22 Bingo. You're that dog. It's so's so good hey it's that dog i remember there's one he had last night when he gets like the second boys like great i ain't got i don't have to swim uh there's a yeah there's what i think i think that with ramon when he's uh talking like he's taunting you at a certain point and then he like leon has a retort that's just like tell someone who gives a shit yeah flips him in the back of the head like a little nerd yeah i if they do i mean i i could call it if they just i just want to see a remake of code veronica like that's the last one that i actually need to see because i love that game so much but like it was that was the one that was most painfully obvious that it was like the tank controls were sort of inhibiting it because it turns into like sort of an
Starting point is 01:16:06 action, straight up action game. And like the second or third act of that game. I would really like to see like this given the, the remake treatment. I have a feeling that's coming. Cause I feel like this is, this is going to be a,
Starting point is 01:16:18 or maybe already has in terms of sales. I haven't looked as a big success for them. I would think it would have to be, it's just such a beloved game and it's such a lovingly done remake and i'll also say that i i there there is part of me that like i like that they reworked a lot of this game and you know they they they got rid of some of like certainly the qte's being gone is a great you know modern uh concession to to modern gaming i like there are parts of me where it's like hmm do i like this approach
Starting point is 01:16:45 or do I like the Metroid Prime remastered approach, which is what we covered last month, Matt, which is basically like that's just the same game, but just with modern controls. Yes. But it doesn't have a lot of the quality of life stuff that this game does. There are no auto saves.
Starting point is 01:17:02 There are no checkpoints. It's all manual. It took me a while to get over that because we you know we're so used to like the typewriter or ribbon system yeah but then i was like oh i'm not actually have to say because the game auto saves yeah it's just a holdover from from the olden do you still use the typewriter though but i can't i can't stop myself from using the typewriter yeah i'm so ingrained like i have to save even though i've never once paid a price for not using a typewriter. I was doing, I was saving every time.
Starting point is 01:17:26 Like, and I, I, I hardly, there's things in the game that I didn't do. Like I, I, I too late decided to start doing a lot of the side quests.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Like I, when I finished, I completed the game with a B and I did a lot of the stuff. Like I got a lot of the extra stuff. There's these little statues that you can shoot in the game that are little game with a B and I did a lot of the stuff. Like I got a lot of the extra stuff. Um, there's these little statues that you can shoot in the game that are little tiny, like Ramon Salazar's,
Starting point is 01:17:52 um, that I started shooting too late. I got like 14 of the, like the 19 or of them or whatever. I found my first one last night in chapter 12. I was like, this is like one of like 20 or whatever. Like,
Starting point is 01:18:03 yeah, I didn't even know these things existed in this game. And I would do all the like requests and like shoot the rats or whatever. I'm fucking hunting vipers like a... I did so much. Like I was like, I completed the game with 24 hours logged. And
Starting point is 01:18:17 it was still like, I could keep playing this. Yeah. I did feel like I was sprinting through this a little bit just to try to get enough hours logged for this episode uh because i started playing it late and i i do wish i had more time with some missions which i think are pretty fun yeah i kind of like those little i'm fully going to replay this game yeah i think me too when i beat it uh it's yeah because it's just such a blast the only other thing i wanted to say which was something you referenced earlier zig which was regarding the the flash uh grenades which are so valuable in this game but it's just like it's such a cool thing how they insta kill
Starting point is 01:18:50 the plaga when the you know when yes when the plaga emerges from uh you know from someone's head and it like like like insta killing them and then also staggering the other enemies there it becomes so valuable and it's just such a satisfying thing to just take out one of these powerful enemies and then just be able to roundhouse kick everyone else who's still standing the blast i i was thinking about when ashley becomes um like incapacitated and then they pick her up i like that like the that's like as far as their plan goes like okay i picked her up and i'm to just slowly walk away now. This is it. Yeah, you can just walk up behind them and murk them with your knife. What are you doing, dude? Put her down.
Starting point is 01:19:31 Everything feels good. There's some great set pieces, great bosses. I don't know. It's just so much fun. It's just a fun game. It is a capital V video game. It's such a video game-ass video game. And going back to something we said earlier, it never makes you try to, like, you have to account for your crimes
Starting point is 01:19:47 or feel bad about yourself or grapple with just the fact that, like, wait, I have murdered a bunch of people. Yeah. It's just sort of like... And it's cheesy enough where it rocks. Yeah, 100%. It's such a delicate thing
Starting point is 01:20:02 because Leon could go the full Duke Nukem and be, like, a shithead that sucks. Yeah. But, like, Leon is, like, a shithead that, like, you love. Like, he's, like, so funny. And he says shit like, like, when he. Bingo. Yeah, when they're leaving, he's like, where are they going? Bingo.
Starting point is 01:20:20 But, like, when he's, when you're talking to Ramon and he's about to do his like villain monologue he straight up is just like you talk too much you fucking shoot him yeah you know what a really great that's not clever he's like you know what a really great comp to this is like um have you guys ever played the earth defense force games no they're fantastic games like this is the highest i mean this is it's obviously like a night and day situation but like they're very cheap games like most literally and like development wise but like they're so much fun it's like they drop you into like a sandbox and they have like aliens and giant robots and like the voice acting is terrible the graphics aren't fantastic but the gameplay is so fun that i think would be a good compliment to this. This is obviously a AAA version of that,
Starting point is 01:21:05 but if you've enjoyed the gameplay loop of Resident Evil 4, like the tone and the vibe, I highly recommend checking out any of the Earth Defense Force games. I think they're either cheap or you can stream them on the PS5 store or whatever. They're really, really fun games, and definitely also capital V video game. I highly recommend those games.
Starting point is 01:21:27 Are these mecha games? I vaguely remember these. You can pilot tanks. You can pilot helicopters. You can pilot mechs. It's true. It's like, hey, do you want to fight Godzilla? Do you want to play an Evangelion-type game where you're fighting giant monsters?
Starting point is 01:21:41 This is definitely the game, and they throw hundreds of animations on screen. It's a really, really fun series. Well, hey, whole bunch of thoughts we just shared about Resident Evil 4 Remake. I gotta share one thing real quick. There's a, because I rolled credits on this thing and there's a song in the credits that's new to the game
Starting point is 01:21:59 and it both sucks and rules. It is so funny. I have to play it right now. It's called The Bullet or The Blade. I'm not sure when it kicks in loving this so far yeah yes
Starting point is 01:22:37 unironically rules yeah speedboat in the water Can't be still for long, cause it's the only way. Unironically rules. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Speed vote in the water, camera pulling out slowly, getting smaller and smaller. You just saved the president's daughter from an island that blew up. The bullet in the blade sounds like the name of like a gastro pub. Serves like a $21 slider. When this started playing when I finished last night, my jaw dropped. Yeah, that's great.
Starting point is 01:23:15 It's somehow the craziest thing in a game that's insane. Reminds me of the final track for the Symphony of the Night, the credits. It's just so epic and over the top. Any other thoughts on this game just an absolute all-timer i'm glad they remade it i'm glad we did it for the show uh it's uh i just an excuse to play such a great yeah great game i loved it and i've no notes it's one of the most fun video games experience i've had in a while yes i think if you're looking for a game maybe like you're a younger person just getting into video games that really capture, like for me, like the highlight of like early aughts video gaming. Resident Evil 4 Remake is the one to go to.
Starting point is 01:23:52 It's so much fun. It checks every box. And also, as you just heard, it doesn't take itself too seriously. Yeah. I think also, and just to address anyone who hasn't played this game before, I think this is like, even if you haven't played a Resident Evil, this is like a great just jumping on point because it's super fun. It feels, you know, looks and feels like a modern game absent a few quirks. And, you know, like a lot of things they've tweaked like that you can move when you shoot now is like so huge and makes it so much more playable. So definitely if you haven't if you're new to this franchise or new to this particular game, I would
Starting point is 01:24:25 100% recommend it. And I think this is coming from me, a coward. It's doable. It's not that scary. It's scary in the early go. It's more action than horror. Yeah, it's 100% more action. It's scarier in the beginning because resources are scarce
Starting point is 01:24:42 and you only have the one gun, but once you start getting more powerful weapons and throwables and stuff it becomes there you're la plaga yeah once you're like here you thought the one grenade was too good here's an even bigger grenade yeah well hey it's time for the you play part of our WePlayYouPlay. It's your review crew, the Ryu Crew. Hadouken! Ryu Crew. Ryu Crew. Can I just say something before we start?
Starting point is 01:25:19 And this is like, obviously, it's great having you here, Zig. We're having a really good time. I miss Heather. Yeah, I feel like she would have shut that down so fast. Well, she does it. She does you here, Zig. We're having a really good time. I miss Heather. Yeah, I feel like she would have shut that down so fast. Well, she does it. She does the Hadouken. I just miss her. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:31 Of course you miss Heather. We all miss Heather. Show me back. I get it. We were right here, but I get it. No, it's not like it's like I miss... Yeah, that sounds like a slight directly towards our guest host. We just did fucking magic for the past 90 minutes,
Starting point is 01:25:41 but it's okay. I get it. Zig knows I fucking hate his guts. And this is pure gold, baby. I know it. Don't you know it? By the way, the lighting in this game is so good. That's what I think.
Starting point is 01:25:53 If you look at the side-by-side with the original, that's the main thing. The fucking dungeon, like the mine section, like the water reflecting off the ground, or even when you first get to the military base, it's like raining outside. You can see, like, you actually can see the enemies by where the shadows are. Like all that stuff is fucking beautiful. The lighting in the original is so flat by comparison. And just here, it's just, it's so dynamic.
Starting point is 01:26:13 Do you like the color brown and gray? Exactly, yeah. I can't remember if I said this on the show or if I said it off mic. I was playing it and I played some of it on stream. I think I did say this on the show. I was playing a lot with headphones on, just at night to not disturb my girlfriend.
Starting point is 01:26:32 And just hearing things before you could see it is so scary to me, just in any type of horror game. But I would often, it would defeat the purpose of wearing the headphones because I would just be shouting, Where? I'd be so scared.
Starting point is 01:26:49 I was like, I don't see them. Where are they? But anyway, here's some of our listeners' thoughts from our Discord, discord.gg.getplayed. This one's from The Randomist. Hi, Randomist. Hi, Randomist. Along with RE2 Remake,
Starting point is 01:27:04 one of the few games that drew me in Randomist. Hi, Randomist. Hi, Randomist. Along with RE2 Remake, one of the few games that drew me in and kept me entertained enough to finish it within days of release. Planning a new Game Plus playthrough when I eventually have a night away from the get-played Battle Bus. We got a Battle Bus person. Is that the Bing Bus?
Starting point is 01:27:19 What is that? Yeah, yeah. All of our listeners get together in a bus and just fuck around. We can't call it the Bing Bus because of copyright reasons, but yeah, functionally it's the same. Yeah, things have changed since the last time we've been on the show. The show's a lot hornier.
Starting point is 01:27:31 Yeah, there's a lot more fucking on here. When the opposite direction is Resident Evil 4 Remake kind of dehorning the original version, it got hornier. Yeah, there's cameras under our seats that you can see us. seats that you can see up. I will say I will say this does very much make me want to play the Resident Evil 2 remake, which I've heard everyone rave about. I downloaded it on Steam Deck.
Starting point is 01:27:52 It's so much scarier than this one, it seems like. I did the demo because they gave you like, you have 20 minutes to just play the game, and I was having fun, but not having fun playing the game. I've seen Mr. X, I think it's what his name is i'm not i can't fucking do that have you seen the mods of that where they'll play dmx's x going to give it to
Starting point is 01:28:10 you i've seen that yeah that maybe would make me be able to do it um but yeah too scary uh but i can't i do want to give it a try this next one's from zapman2003. Hi, Zapman. Zap. Zap. Zip, zap, zop. We're like, that's for all you improv heads out there. We know there are a lot of you. Yeah, we're all in 101. I'm loving playing RE4 Remake for the first time, but I find the number of complex puzzles so surprising.
Starting point is 01:28:41 Who made this door that only opens when three heads are attached to a statue? Who engineered and architected it it is an engine it is a funny thought because you don't think about that when you're playing a video game right yeah but it's like you expand that logic to all video games right okay who put this fucking floating block here for me yes well okay so so like you know the last of us just is just a point of reference we've all played and like as a very grounded version of this game, like the puzzles will be like, hey, I have to take a ladder and then extend it across this gap to crawl across.
Starting point is 01:29:12 You know what I mean? It's like, or I have to, there's a generator that I have to find fuel for and restart it. It all has some sort of basis in reality. Here, that's completely abandoned. But I think that's just, first off, that's just a convention of the series.
Starting point is 01:29:23 And also I think that totally makes sense. Like again, a merchant just appears convention of the series. And also, I think it totally makes sense. Like, again, a merchant just appears when you get through a straight... Oh, we have barely talked about the merchant. That's right. My favorite part about the merchant has always been, like, what's this, like, small
Starting point is 01:29:37 two-by-two crack that I have to get through? And he has set up a typewriter. He has candles. He's, like... Yeah. I told this before we started recording, but I love his asides. Like, he'll just be like, you know, a beat of silence. He's like, my back hurts, stranger. This approach is just part of getting older, isn't it? Like, he just has.
Starting point is 01:29:54 Fun. Gun rhymes with fun. Yeah. Love. Money's better spent than dead, stranger. He has, he has. Movies are rubbish. I take it all.
Starting point is 01:30:02 Yeah. And he has his own, his own infinite pool of resources. So if you bring to him a crown set with jewels, give you 100,000 pesetas for it that you can use to trade in for a machine gun. Here's a dead snake. All right, stranger, 5,000 pesetas for it. Yeah, it's competitive pricing. The thing where it's just like, because in the original,
Starting point is 01:30:24 I think the shooting gallery was a little bit more like, okay, we're trying to have it make logical sense as to where it's just like because because in the original i yeah i think the shooting gallery was a little bit more like okay we're trying to make have it make logical sense as to where it's here and and in this one it's just like there's just an elevator to an underground arena there are pirates there and it's his yeah yeah got it set up all over the country yeah he's like oh i'll set this up here this is perfect yeah uh incredible and obviously you know the uh zig i don't know if you noticed the resident evil four merchant is his presence on our show he's been on our show uh i hate to give it up and i know that he's not here to defend himself the new performance is good it's still good yeah it's really good i was ready to be skeptical but it's good it's great i love it um i hope he doesn't hear that. I'm sure he won't.
Starting point is 01:31:06 Why would he ever listen to this? This next one's from TheWub. Hi, TheWub. What's up, TheWub? I just want to say that Resident Evil 4 is one of only two games that I happily bought three different times. Once for PlayStation 2, once for the Wii, excellent
Starting point is 01:31:21 controller for that game, and now on PC. The other game that I bought three times was SpongeBob Battle for Bikini Bottom. Diversity. We love it. I love it. That's the great thing about video games. We talked about this when Elden Ring and Kirby had come out
Starting point is 01:31:39 pretty close together. Video games can be anything. Shinji Mikami himself, before he created Resident created resident evil or directed resident evil he was working on licensed disney games at capcom wow like his he has credits on who framed roger rabbit for game boy and then aladdin and goof troop for super nintendo i i i love a diverse portfolio let me just say um this next one's from Jekyll777. As a person who went into credit card debt just to buy a GameCube just to play Resident Evil 4 when it first came out and has bought every iteration of it, I do have to say this is how to properly remake a game. The overall story was true to the original, but there were just enough changes to keep it fresh and feeling new.
Starting point is 01:32:21 I also like that I no longer have to take drugs to not feel sick while playing Resident Evil 4 port on Oculus just to be able to move and shoot at the same time anymore. Yeah, that was the big stopping point for me. It wasn't that I was afraid to play the game. It was that it was legitimately making me sick. 100%. Yeah. VR is rough stuff. That happened with Blair Witch
Starting point is 01:32:40 too. It's just like we all just got so motion sick trying to play it. Yeah, I remember I had to lay down flat for like an hour after I played a little bit of uh blair witch and i played it i played a lot of that game very unfortunate um this next one's from alex f i hi alex um i have played both versions i was really scared the whole time for both games i appreciated that ashley wasn't as difficult to manage in the remake i also liked selling the keys i also liked selling the keys i was done with the merchant had good jokes like gun rhymes with fun i forgot i forgot about that one yeah he's really good yeah uh he just said and the thing is he says it a lot yeah
Starting point is 01:33:15 and you don't hate it never gets old he's you know how like old guys will like go to like a grocery store or whatever and like it won't scan it'll be like, I guess it's free. He's like that guy. And you're like, I love this. Well, in like 99% of media, someone saying gun rhymes with fun, you'd be like, come here, fucking break. And then in here you're like, this rocks. If Duke Nukem said it,
Starting point is 01:33:38 it would suck. It would suck, yeah. It'd be horrible. Gun rhymes with fun, baby. I shot my dick off. Can I just say real quick, like, like being able to sell the resources you're done with to the merchant for just like a, like a little bit of extra income. Like that is fun. That is like a satisfying way to like discard useless items. So I do think that's a good observation. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:02 Cause yeah, there's like, I would even like accidentally like craft bolts and be like i'm not really using the bolts i'm just gonna sell this like i don't need this um and i'd buy guns and then be like uh yeah i don't need this once i get to the point where like i know there's gonna be no great like i would like all right i just need enough to like take out a guy in like two shots right sell the gun again well also like and you talked about some of the the machine guns earlier that they just like some of those just burn through ammo, so they're not as useful. The bolt thrower I mess around with a little bit. I thought it was pretty, like, it's fun to attach a mine to it. Yeah, mine's pretty good.
Starting point is 01:34:31 Like, that was pretty satisfying, but it just wasn't a weapon I gravitated towards. But yeah, the flexibility to, as a player, to choose what you like. Yeah, that's the thing that I really responded to, is like, oh, like, if you just have, like, ones you prefer and you just max them out, you can really do anything yeah and once you get the attachment for like you craft like 15 more ammo like then it becomes like all right i can see a world in which the machine gun
Starting point is 01:34:53 is viable absolutely and they gave they were even like i was reading a guide and they were like attach the bioscope to this machine gun that you found i was like why would i do that yeah i hate the machine i'm gonna i'm just gonna switch back and forth between scopes on this one gun that you found. I was like, why would I do that? Yeah. I hate the machine gun. I'm just going to switch back and forth between scopes on this one rifle that I like and get a precision shot on these fucking viruses in the regenerator's hearts. I'm not trying to spray them.
Starting point is 01:35:17 I'm trying to take them down quick. And I had the reload and rate of fire maxed out on that. Oh, yeah. That rifle was everything to me. I was like the freaking rifle man. Yeah. This last one is from chemical.
Starting point is 01:35:42 I think that's how you say that chemical chemical chemical chemical. How do you feel about them making the tone noticeably less campy and a bit more self-serious for the remake i really enjoyed the level of camp in resident evil village and it feels like they tried to bring the remake up to that level from where the original was back in 2005 i don't think this game is not camping it doesn't feel less campy i mean like it feels campy to the degree that I remember it, which I think is like the you know, I think if they just directly just took the script and and just reenacted it, I feel like it would feel a little bit dated and like, you know, again, like kind of sexist at parts. I think they made they made the right call with some of these revisions. Yeah. And like, I think making like even like the couple of the character design things like making like Ramon like
Starting point is 01:36:25 not a kid or like whatever it was like I don't know that stuff was good they desexualized Ada Wong a little bit yeah or to give her a little bit more modest of an outfit I didn't see anybody mad about that yeah or say anything weird
Starting point is 01:36:40 you know because I was I had seen a little bit of that before. Then I played the games like this, this makes all sense to me. I don't know. Yeah. I got no notes. I think,
Starting point is 01:36:52 I mean, we've given this game like so much praise. It's, it's quite simply one of the best video games I've ever played. A damn who? And that was the Ryu crew. Thanks for sending those in. Follow along on Discord, everybody.
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Starting point is 01:37:36 Yeah, that's pretty true. Over on Stitcher Premium or at Patreon.com slash Get Played. Cody Ziegler, what an absolute delight to have you in studio. It's always a fucking blast. So fun. Love just to talk about video games, especially good ones. Do you have anything
Starting point is 01:37:49 you'd like to plug at this time? Check out Miles Morales' Spider-Man. I'm running that. Issue 5 just came out, so the first arc is done. Please read that. I think it's a lot of fun. So cool.
Starting point is 01:37:58 People seem to be enjoying it. Other than that, I have no tises, but check out Earth Defense Force. It's such a fun video game I want more people to play it so it gets more sequels hell yeah
Starting point is 01:38:08 I got a plug I got a rare plug I never plug anything on this show Nick and I both wrote something wrote things separately for the Comedy Bang Bang book
Starting point is 01:38:16 it's on shelves tomorrow as of this release on April 25th so you can get it in stores anywhere you buy books check it out it's uh
Starting point is 01:38:28 i'll i'll say very sincerely it's very cool to be in that book it's a cool book there's a lot of it's it's also like like have you gotten your hands on it's a hefty boy it's a it's a thicky it's a thicky uh it's a it's a nice presentation and yeah i wrote a piece with with uh our friend caroline anderson that's Anderson that's in the book. So check that out. Oh, Publish Pals over here. Yeah, that's right. We're Publish Pals.
Starting point is 01:38:50 We're the book buddies. Yeah. All right. Well, I feel like today nobody got played. No. And I'm not trying to say this because I know we've had just a blast with Zig and people are going to be like that was a really good episode and it has nothing to do with Zig
Starting point is 01:39:07 I miss Heather so much Zig you just got played I'm sorry yeah wow thanks guys

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