Ghostrunners - 14 - Growing Up in the 90s

Episode Date: August 12, 2019

Jake talks about his best prank in college, Brad is an amazing Facebook troll, and both discuss the joys of growing up in the only time period that's experienced life with and without the internet.  Follow us on Instagram: http://bit.ly/33WAq4P Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

And... Action! So there I was, couldn't believe it, on top of Mount Rushmore. And then I said, Mom? Since when do you go here in the wintertime? Oh, all that and more on Channel 5 tonight. Don't go anywhere. Puh-puh-puh-puh!

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You really think that people are going to believe that we did not plan any of that? I think they're... How great it was executed? Yeah, I think they're going to believe it by that execution. Episode 14. Welcome, everybody. Brad, what's new? Oh, went to the pool today.

Oh, got wet? Yep. We'll edit that out. What? You get wet. Some people lay by the pool. Okay. Some people get in the pool.

Okay. Did you, okay, did you swim? I did swim. Okay. Went with my wife and my daughter. Nice. We have a season pass and it's ending in September, Labor Day, so trying to live it up while we can. They have a weird uh what

is that fiscal year that the pool runs by they go september december some annual passes yeah annual pass seasonal pass i guess gotcha um went to pool today it was a good time and just working on some big orders going out next week so let's go let's go baby back the money truck up yes johnson county get on your feet for some custom furniture specifically ellis custom creations on Let's go. Let's go, baby. Back the money truck up. Yes, Johnson County. Get on your feet for some custom furniture. Specifically, Ellis Custom Creations on Facebook and Instagram. That's right, baby. That's cool.

I've recently been running into old good friends a lot. Really? Like, it's one thing just like, oh, I saw an old friend, but it's like one of my best friends from college. I just saw him. Like, I've probably told stories on this podcast of him. Really? And I haven't seen him in years. Yeah, I didn't even know what state he was living in. But yeah, I got to see him recently.

Got to see, like... On accident? He was in Kansas City, and one of my other friends thought to say, Hey, Jake, Chris Perry's in town. Oh. Yada, yada, and like made it happen. Nice. And then he was on my back porch.

So that was actually pretty convenient for me. But the other girl was, oh, I left something we were at. And I said, which Walmart should I go to? And you said, go to this Walmart. That's where I saw Anna Tillman. You're kidding. I know, right? Oh, Anna Bonanna.

Can you imagine if I told you to go to a different Walmart? I would have gotten the same exact stuff, but not had that hour long. That's right. Hour long talk with Anna. Wow. Yeah, we had a lot to catch up on. Good. Married, three kids.

Wow, way different than you. Uh-huh, that's mainly what we talked about. Wow. And yet she still had time to talk to you for an hour, good for her. That's what I was like, yo, you probably have more stuff going on than I do. And she was like, I've been looking after the kids all day. She's like, please let me be out here as long as I can. I'll talk to you for as long as you want so it was great I have very

very little communication with anyone I went to high school with so it was kind of fun oh she's a high school friend yeah yeah wow go Indians yeah I don't really talk to anyone from high school yeah I do a bad job with keeping up with people like that too yeah I understand jake uh so this guy chris that i um saw good friend from college i i really don't think i've told the story on the podcast maybe i've told you the story off the pod but uh chris and i became somewhat notorious in college for this very consistent prank we would pull on people and i'm saying this not to be like oh crazy college story check out this epic prank but this will work in a lot of scenarios. And I would like to pass this information on to people.

I know a great prank that you've told me about. I hope it's the one that you're about to tell me. Okay. I'll go quick. So this works great in cafeteria settings. Yes. This is what you told me and I love it. Okay.

So here's how it would work. Chris and I sit down. We're shooting the breeze with these people. At some point during lunch, Chris would say like, hey, I'm going to get an ice cream cone. here's how it would work uh chris and i sit down uh we're shooting the breeze with these people at some point during lunch chris would say like hey i'm gonna get ice cream cone i would act like i didn't really hear i'd be like hey did chris just say he was gonna get ice cream yeah he did okay cool hey who wants to help me pull a prank on chris someone raises their hand so chris doesn't even know who the target is he's just he's focused on what he has to do so i try to get everyone at

the table eyes locked on me um really, you know, garner all of their interest in this story, this made up story. Like, yeah, Chris and I went to high school together back in the day. We used to do this hilarious prank where we would like bite the bottom of each other's waffle cones out from under each other. And then like, then the ice cream runs down and it's so funny. It's going to be so good. I want to do it to Chris again, but he's going to catch on if I try to do it. So I want one of you to do it. It's going to be so funny. And I just tell this story for as long as I need to, until I think Chris is about to be back. Meanwhile, how

the SBU cafeteria was set up right next to the ice cream machine, like the soft serve machine, is the condiments for some reason. And so meanwhile, Chris is loading up the bottom of this waffle cone with really whatever he wants. Dealer's choice. Sometimes it was more relish based. Sometimes it was more of a mustard, you know.

Mayonnaise? Yeah, mayonnaise. Yeah, all sorts of colors would get involved. And only like the bottom third of the cone. And then the top is just ice cream. Looks completely normal. He comes back licking it. And so to these people, I'm like, all right,

so when Chris gets back, you know Chris. He's a hippie. He won't care at all. Chris was like, no, for not wearing shoes a ton. So it worked great. So like ask Chris for a lick of his ice cream cone. And then when he gives it to you, take a big old bite out of the bottom.

It's going to be so funny. And so then they're just, they're so gung ho to pull this prank on Chris. So pumped. Almost 90% of the time, they have a huge smile on their face as just barbecue sauce goes dripping down their chin. And they realize they've been had. I'm not kidding. It worked a hundred percent of the the time if you ever find yourself in a scenario with a

soft serve ice cream machine uh it's going to work they will never see it coming because it's like you think that you're pranking somebody else but really the whole time you're getting played you would never think to yeah check your back when you're you know at the one yard line you just assume everything's ahead of me so that was fun to relive just a multitude of memories but yeah we like we had it down to a system we didn't even have to really talk about it just like oh yeah these people don't know we'll get them right and so it's a lot of fun what would be really fun is one time you just never actually like tell somebody and so he's got this nasty cone and he's like and and then he's like, like, am I just gonna have to eat this thing?

And then somebody is like, uh, why wouldn't you eat your cone? He's like, cause it's got relish and mustard on the bottom. It's like, what kind of freak are you? I remember one time that almost happened. Like someone was so nervous to like ask, you know, they're like, all right, I gotta keep a straight face. And they're like giggling and they're like, yeah, just like scared and nervous to ask. And so Chris starts getting pretty low on the cone.

It's like they better ask soon. Pretty low on the cone. It sounds like a metaphor. Low on the totem cone. Yeah, I'm pretty low on the cone today. Like you're kind of down. Yeah. I'm not feeling so great.

How's the week been? It's been a little low on the cone, but you know. Low on the cone, but looking to climb back up and get to the peak. Well, I, the only thing I remember differently about that is I don't remember people having to ask for a lick. I thought it was just like somebody was just sitting there next to him and just would like try to like bite it. Yeah. That's the only part that's a little like, okay, that's kind of strange. Yeah. But Chris is like persona and how he was like known helped a lot lot it was like oh yeah chris is not even going to think twice if you ask him for a lick of his cone uh big germ guy wow um

so anyway yeah chris and anna it's been a good week good man just uploaded my kawaii video yesterday that was fun that was good you commented a couple different times on it which i appreciated yeah i love uh yeah just those random kind of trolling sessions I do. Oh, you know what we should talk about? Here, you set it up. I'm going to find, I have the screenshots on my phone. So back in the day,

Facebook used to do this thing. Only certain people were in the newsfeed. Okay, yeah, you take it away. I'm going to find this picture. So like back in the day on my newsfeed, I would get notifications whenever Jake became friends with another person. Like Jake Triplett is now friends with Denise Washington.

Right. And that would show up as like a post. And it wasn't like when we, when I was mutual friends with this person, it would show up. It would just be like randomly Jake would become friends with these people. And I think admittedly you can disagree with this if I'm wrong, but I think that Jake was pretty liberal with his accepting of friends.

And so sometimes I'm at the 5,000 limit right now. Every time I get a request, I have to delete someone. Wait, there's a 5,000 limit. Yeah. Oh, wow. I've been there for months. It's really annoying to accept friendships now. Right. Because like, yeah, cause you used to always accept them. Whereas I'm, I'm also, I don't know. Everyone is on Facebook. It's like, not that you have to be really close friends to be on Facebook, but like, I don't accept everybody like you do, but basically you can like comment on this new friendship because it was like its own story. It was like its own post that could be liked or commented or shared. But for whatever reason, like it was pretty rare to get these notifications. And I only almost exclusively only got them from whenever Jake

would be friends with someone. Like I never got one whenever my wife got a new. I never saw this for anyone else either. I don't know why. You never saw it on your newsfeed. No, I never like saw your friends or anyone else's friends. Right. Because you always kept being like, I'm going to get you.

Yeah. I can't wait to get you. It's the weirdest thing. And so what I would just, I would literally just comment the most random things imaginable, like just off the top of my head i found i can't think of anything yeah any this is no no rhyme or reason to why i said what i did i've got five of them screenshot it's still my friend this from december 2016 okay i think you should probably read it in your voice okay okay so this first one uh jake triple is now friends with connor kelly

first of all do you know Connor Kelly very well? No. Scale of one to 10. Two. Okay. What's the background on him? I think he stayed at, he was part of link here and stayed at my house. So we exchanged like a, Hey, what's your name?

Oh, awesome. I'm Jake. Thanks for staying here. That's it. So maybe even a one to kind of generous. I feel kind of awkward reading these. Really? I think they're

so funny um okay so this is from december is that what you said yeah december 2016 makes sense because i put the first line is in quotation marks unto us a child is given and he will be called wonderful counselor prince of peace which is such a weird thing right to comment next paragraph as i read these verses this, I couldn't help but think about the two of you and the bond that you share through both Christ and mass. Or mas, like Christmas. Christ-mas.

In the midst of this busy season, I pray that you'd see through the fog of materialism to the beautiful sunny skies of friendship, which is a seed that is sowed and planted by regular phone calls, texts, and let's be honest, maybe even a few good shoulder rubs lol like there's no background to like these inside jokes that i'm alluding to at all

and i said jake remember what i taught you at third grade scout camp the bow aims the arrow but the string directs its trajectory i believe in you connor i really do and every time they were paragraphs you can keep like swiping like there's like i was always so impressed with like wow he's putting so much effort into this and every time it's like you knew it's like i might have just became friends with someone that just now got a facebook from college that would have got the joke and you always like pinpointed the people like oh i don't even know this person this is awkward i just accepted them uh this is this next you want me to keep reading some sure yeah uh so this one's katie farigan from ku medical center i don't know who this person is okay i'm saying

katie if you're reading this it's too late dot dot dot and then all caps you've already got yourself the best friend money goodbye i wonder if that was when drake's album just dropped and maybe that's why you went that route no i don't even know that reference oh he had an album that like or like a mixtape that like dropped it said if you're reading this it's too late it was like a surprise drop oh I do know that okay but it was around that time but I don't know if that was why I said that I don't like all this stuff is completely random and I bet all these took me 30 seconds to do like I don't think about it I didn't think about it. I didn't think about it twice. Just kind of start typing. I just posted it. I said, I'm sure you're a pro at this already, but wow, are you getting lucky having Jake by your side?

You threw out your lure and really hooked a great one. And for that, I tip my cap. If you're ever in a bind, whether on, what? I think it says, if you're ever in a bind, whether in a dark alley, downtown street corner, or high above the tree lines of a mountain, I exhort you this. Give him a call, girl. He'll be there for you in the thick and the thin. Jeez. Much love and peace to both you and your hardworking family.

I don't know her family. That was nice of you to say, though. Like, what? Like, nobody ever responded to any of these, by the way. It made me wonder if they even got a notification because not a single person ever said anything. I mean, maybe you just freaked him out so much. Like, what do I say to this? Someone encouraging me with scripture based on a friendship.

This one, Whitney Waitsman. Okay. I know her brother. Okay. I said, good things come to those who quotation mark. Wait. Nice. Yeah.

Whitney, I am bursting with joy for the opportunity that you and Jake have in front of you. Enjoy each other's company, laugh often, cry when necessary, and never go to bed angry. Oh, and order a drink. This is like a wedding toast. Right. Oh, and order Jake a pizza every once in a while. He deserves it. With three smiley faces.

Like, I'm so creepy. There's one more here. This one's from David Law. What do we know about him? He's a Kennecott guy. There's something there. Yeah, I don't know. I said, I started by saying Law Dog.

Law Dog. Congrats on the recent ship, as in friendship. Like apostrophe ship. With let, as in triplet. Understand this. No matter what else you learn and develop together with Jake over the years to come, the agony and ecstasy is so very real. Like, what am I talking about?

Lean on each other. Depend on each other. Keep each other accountable to serve your community, especially. I don't know why. Oh, gosh gosh keep each other accountable to serve your community especially the blind and hard of hearing what a weird thing to encourage wow the journey you are getting ready to take on may at times seem to be an insurmountable insurmountable peak but just remember to be each other's sherpas bundle up it's a cold one out there i don't know what that and i said weird l-y-l-a-s love you like a sister lilas

that's got to be some like transferable skill to something else like being able to just start typing and use big words every now and then to, I don't know. I don't know what I'll do it some more if, I mean, yeah. So Facebook stopped doing that though. Like years ago, I also did this random prank, uh, that I think I did it to you. We definitely did it. Um, when you were around, but I would go to somebody's Instagram followers. Great. I even did this. Yeah. I've done this recently and I would go to the ones that followers. Oh, this one's great. I even did this. Yeah, I've done this recently. And I would go to the ones that you were following. Are following.

So essentially the people you should know, like you were following them on Instagram. And I would just like randomly scroll down halfway through the page or whatever. So yeah, pretend like it's me. Like if you wanted to prank me. Yeah, I would usually go to Triplet, go to his followers or following, scroll down like three quarters of the way,

maybe halfway and click on a girl's name and then find like my age find like a yeah make sure that she was a public account and then find like a semi-provocative picture of her like like it could be like not very provocative at all like but just you know something where they're dressed nice at the beach whatever uh and i would just say something super like vague and tag Jake in it. Like descriptively ambiguous. Like at Triplet Jake, is this the one you were talking about? Oh, I see what you mean.

Oh, that's where you're getting this from. Surely not the one on the left. Right, right. And, oh, man, we went – it started with me and my friend Morgan from camp. And we went back and forth and he – eventually, like it got, it went too far because I commented on somebody's. It's a little risky once you're married. Well, yeah. To do it to a married person.

I commented on somebody's like post about their grandma or something. And he's like, dude, that's a freaking grandma. You can't, you can't go that far. So I don't remember what I said, but then I commented on one of our friends. I don't remember which friend this was. It happened to be one that she was kind of interested in, and I had no idea, obviously. You hit the bullseye.

And ever since then, I was like, I can't do this anymore. Just in case, yeah. I felt so bad. It's a great digital prank. Very easy to do. It takes about 30 seconds, and usually gets a pretty good response. Yeah, and it's like you usually find one from like two years ago. Yeah, make it an old

picture so it kind of looks weird on you that you've scrolled down that far but it really leaves the other person with some explaining to do oh i don't know if you said you you tag the person oh yeah like brad would tag me in it like triplet jake oh now i get it right right it's so good yeah i did that recently i don't know who too but it's just a great way to kind of mess with people and just remind them who's in charge who's in charge the internet is uh it's a crazy place did you see the uh the girl who somehow uploaded the wrong video file to youtube have you heard about this and a lot of hot water like abusing the dog yes yeah i did did you watch the video yeah i watched some

clips it's pretty disturbing yeah i didn't enjoy it and we're both guys who would sell our dogs for a reasonable amount of money even like that attached to dogs and it was still like yeah what are you doing there it made me wonder like how do you upload the wrong file that's so weird to me yeah i don't know it was yeah it was uncomfortable to watch and yeah sorry i'm not i don't know her background at all i don't know what she normally does she was trying to prank her dog is that what it was i guess like the dog was supposed to be in the video yeah that girl did not look like a girl that i would usually watch on youtube anyway like or whatever she was on i yeah i could not believe that and like lapd is like opening up a case what for like animal abuse yeah she's in some hot water i guess i didn't see that much because whatever i saw i

didn't i don't know maybe i'm too insensitive to it but i didn't think it was like that bad like oh really i found it lawsuit stuff messed up really she grabbed the dog by the face and like throw it down like yell at it i don't think i saw that she spit on it no do you yeah okay i haven't seen that yeah yeah she's like spitting in the dog's face like yelling at it i thought i just saw her like kind of verbally yell at him and then like one time hit him or something yeah it's wild wow yeah so that's that's going on i'm trying to think what else is do you see that uh 16 year old kid uh won three million dollars for being the best at fortnite i didn't know it was three million i knew three million that's it's the biggest person

in sports this year like more than wimbledon more than like any like more than Wimbledon, more than like any like. More than a golf, any golf tournaments? I think golf was third. Whoever won the Masters. He's 16. Good for him. Yeah. That's what all those parents, you know, that say, don't play so many video games. Look at him now.

Yeah. Did I talk about last week? Yeah, because I think we talked. Yeah, we did our last podcast on Sunday. Did I talk about how Saturday I tried i think we talked yeah we did our last podcast on sunday i talked about how saturday i tried out virtual reality no we are let's talk about this um what you do so we went over to this family's house uh from our church and this guy he's going to be a junior in high school this kid really really into computers okay and so he has like it's set up in his room this virtual reality station basically

and my friend peter and i both tried it out and like we did a gun range like a shooting range just like is it like first person shooter kind of stuff yeah yeah you look down the site you had two hands uh you know one was holding the yeah the barrel and one was holding the trigger whatever um and you could choose whatever gun you want and stuff. That was okay because it was just kind of like you were just kind of standing there. It's probably not that much different than just playing a video game where you're shooting a gun. Yeah, yeah. It kind of felt like an arcade game.

But then the other one we did was Formula One Racing, which also is kind of arcade-y. These are like the most basic video games. VR, I want like an immersive experience. Well, and I'm sure like there's a – yeah, the most basic video games. VR, I want an immersive experience. Well, and I'm sure he had like 50 games. But this racing game was nuts. It was so different than

one that you would play at an arcade or something. That's surprising. Because you put on those things, you put on those goggles and the earphones and stuff, and you really do feel like you're like in a world by yourself you can like look around and see the cars yeah you can look 360 like um like an owl you can just turn that neck around like yeah there's nothing stopping you there's no uh that's surprising though i would say like if any video game racing would be the most similar to regular well to a regular driving it was very similar to real

driving that's kind of but it was not similar to like a like a ps4 video game yeah or like an arcade like one of those arcade uh driving ones and there were times where i thought i was going to like fall out of my seat because i was like trying to turn so much and like really it was really a interesting experience anyway but peter my friend who our friend, who's notoriously sick anyway, went home that night. He was supposed to hang out with us afterwards. It was like, dude, I don't feel good. That is not surprising. It gave me motion sickness.

Yeah. And he didn't even do the car one. He just did the shooting range. He's like, that stuff messed me up. He just stood there shooting things. He was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. It really is weird, though. You have to pick up.

You have to go and pick out of your pocket your ammo and put in your gun and stuff and like if you let go of something you drop your guns you have to go like pick it up from the ground and stuff so there is like a decent amount of reality and weird stuff even in that but it was a weird experience i don't i think i liked it, but I don't know. I want to get used to it more. I think I would like it overall, but I didn't necessarily love it whenever I did it. I would love to just do it more. I think it's so cool.

I think it's the future of... It's definitely the future. Future of gaming. It's the future of technology. I saw where Google is coming out with augmented reality street walking maps. Instead of just looking at the top down view of them, you know, streets,

you can just hold your phone up and use the camera and it'll show you like what street that is up, you know, coming up and kind of like Pokemon go kind of stuff. Huh? I've done VR once. I don't think I would have talked about this on the podcast, but I took a girl on a date to a virtual reality escape room.

I've heard about those. Yes. I didn't know what that even meant but i knew i liked the idea of those individually and it was actually so awesome like accidentally chose something so much up my alley like i looked good doing this um that was the only day we went on but still it was so fun because it was like yeah you had to like get out of this room and once you got to that one then there's another room but it was like athletic based challenges like you know you had to grab a bow and arrow and shoot the bullseyes and then you had to do like you had to do like trick shots

you'd like pick up this vase and throw it in the like the uh little goblet thing um it was egyptian themed okay so that helps you imagine things and it does it was so sick not like sickening like i very much enjoyed it. Yeah, that's cool. It was expensive, but awesome. Maybe for my birthday. Escape rooms always are expensive. Will do.

VR. Oh, yeah. Maybe. Who's the guy? Can we just rent his basement? Oh, David. Yeah. Okay, cool.

It's in his bedroom, so it's a little more tight quarters. It's tougher. We'll figure something out. That was the thing with the shooting is i always was worried i was gonna like hit his wall or like where am i in the room yeah but he's got like sensors all over he's got like four sensors that you have to buy in his room yeah he never told me how much it all costs we asked him a few times and he just kept saying like it's an investment it's an investment i don't know how much those oculus things are but they are not cheap it was was like Oculus brand or whatever.

I figured they were probably the ones to do it with. Facebook bought them for like a billion dollars a couple years ago, so I figured they were up to something. Anyway. What was the – you mentioned something about Antonio Brown right before we started recording. What is that? Okay, yes. I don't know this. Oh, man.

Basically, I'll try to keep it short. So he hurt his foot doing cryotherapy have you heard that yes i don't really know much about it you get in the sleep sack and there's some salt in the water yeah he uh heard he got like frostbite on his feet oh no way and everyone's like oh wait i i did see that picture of his feet oh really i haven't seen that okay so that that's only like the the minor story i just thought it was from being a professional athlete that's what his feet look because antonio brown has like he's a wide receiver for the NFL. Just got traded to the Raiders.

Kind of a big deal because he's like the best receiver, but he's a prima donna. The Raiders are kind of a dumpster fire already. And so you're just like, awesome. Antonio Brown of the Raiders is going to be very entertaining. Drama's always kind of surrounding this dude. Yeah. And so you're like, what's going to happen? Surely something's going to happen.

No, maybe not. Maybe he's going to be a good guy. So he got frostbite on his feet. So he has frostbite's gonna be a good guy so he got frostbite so he has frostbite on his feet and you're like oh of course he has frostbite on his feet like what a ridiculous thing and that is like nothing compared to what happens oh wait hold on real quick cryotherapy i think i have the wrong thing i was thinking of those like sleep tank things that like the golden state warriors do cryotherapy is just where you get you're standing up and you get real chilly oh is that what that is i think so i had the wrong thing i don't the sleep sacks are like the things from like the martian that you're right the gold state warriors also use cryotherapy yeah sometimes

known as cold therapy yeah just supposed to be good for your muscles just like stand there and it gets crazy crazy cold gotcha okay keep going just want to fill in the audience anyway everyone's thinking like he hasn't been at training audience. Anyway, everyone's thinking like, he hasn't been at training camp for a while. Everyone's like, Oh, maybe it's because of this cry out there. I mean, it's because of this cryotherapy stuff. And then we heard like yesterday or two days ago, like no one even knows where he is. He's gone radio silent, not responding.

Not, you know, not saying where he is or anything comes out today. There's been this dispute for a while now uh after last season the nfl did some tests on their helmets and found out that uh this one certain kind of helmet i don't know if it's a style or a brand or what this kind of helmet that antonio brown uses is no longer legal like it's because it's not it's bad for concussions and was he one of the only people using it there was like i think i read 31 31 active, including Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers. No way. So like pretty big names.

But yeah, no longer can you use this helmet. He heard that and he said, that's ridiculous. I'm using this helmet. And they're like, no, you can't. What an idiot. And so he left practice that day, like super mad, like just left practice stormed out because of the helmet thing, because of the helmet thing. Who cares?

Next day came back, acted like nothing was wrong, you know, whatever. And then halfway through, I think like left again. And then, uh, then he came back. Maybe, I don't know if it's the next day or, you know, I don't know the exact details, but with another helmet that was his old like stealer's helmet that he painted to look like a raider's helmet he painted his own helmet trying to make it look like yeah like trying to make it look uh like a believable helmet because obviously they're not going to issue him this old like you know outdated helmet so he brought his

own shows up to first grade but they said like they said like you know it was helmet. So he brought his own shows up to first grade, but they said like, they said like, you know, it was close, but it wasn't exactly the same. I was like, of course, it's not the exact same helmet. Yeah. Like you, you can't fake something that precise in that professional looking. Uh, this is like you, you open up your presence to see what they are. And then you try to rewrap them and be like, no, I don't know what's in there. No. And then your parents are like, no, I know how I wrapped it. see yeah you broke the tape i can see it and so now just today we learned that he is basically saying like either the nfl you know reneges this suspension or you know whatever illegalization of this helmet or i'm not gonna play anymore what he's what because he claims that this thing like

makes it harder for him to see or something. These new helmets. There's no way. I feel like face mask is your main thing that's going to challenge your visibility. But the helmet itself, just the outer shell. Oh, it's hilarious. I feel like this dude just wants something to be in the news about. Just wants to complain.

It's like when Kyrie Irving said the earth was flat. Surely he doesn't believe that. He just was having a rough year. And was like, I'll get in the news this way I cannot believe that that's such a like fourth grade Mighty Mites thing throwing a tantrum because you didn't get the helmet you wanted so he said yeah and he said uh he he showed up with his or he asked for his old helmet and after saying no um after he got told no he complained that QBss such as Brady and Rogers were not going to be subjected to the same scrutiny. They say he's a fourth grader.

Will Jackson and Braxton get to use their helmets? Right, right. So then it says, shortly thereafter, Brown stormed out of the facility in protest. Later that day, Raiders officials found video footage of Rogers during the Green Bay Packers OTA session wearing an approved model helmet and texted it to Brown. Aaron Rogers texted it? No, no, no. Like the Raiders people texted it to brown the following day aaron rogers texted it no no no like the raiders people texted it to him okay following day brown showed up in alameda and acted like nothing had happened accepting the new helmet from an equipment manager without protests and completing the workout however sometime in the next couple weeks brown once

again tried to take the field with his old helmet which is unbelievable which he had since had repainted with colors approximating but not completely mimicking the raiders silver and black design he was told the helmet helmet was not allowed and once again he acquiesced and wore the new model before brown arrived at training camp last month coaches and teammates believed the issue had been resolved but brown who practiced on his tender feet for only two days before leaving Napa to seek another opinion. I forgot he had frostbite this whole time. Right.

Right. Try yet again to sneak his old helmet onto the practice field, ultimately being told by team officials to remove it. This is amazing. In quotation marks. He's still freaking out about it. Said one Raiders player. He hasn't been here for a while and no one knows where he's at.

All of this has created an aura of mystery and uncertainty surrounding the receiver. Who's highly productive tenure with the Steelers ended after a stretch of turmoil uh blah blah blah since joining the raiders brown had frustrated has frustrated his new bosses by showing up late to numerous meetings uh anyway just it says still according to one source the meeting thing isn't that bad but the feet helmet and going dark is an issue. And then, yeah, Adam Schefter tweeted out later that he's threatening to just retire. He's like, I'm fine with the money I have right now.

Really? Yeah, just crazy, man. much of a professional athlete worth 70 million dollars goes to walmart picks up some paint picks up something to use as a stencil right goes back to his home prints a raiders logo online and then starts trying to mimic their logo like painting his helmet like sitting crisscross applesauce in his living room just painting a helmet that's Yeah, like I can't imagine anything being that ridiculously different. Like, I can imagine if you're a quarterback and they say, hey,

these new footballs don't have the laces on them. And you're like, okay. That's a big deal. I was using those. Yeah, I need those to throw the ball. You know, but like, hey, you have to wear a different color of pants oh okay i can do that i'll still run the same yeah i don't know like i guarantee you it is the most minimal adjustment

in the style of helmet and it's like hey we've done studies we've done tests this is better for the long term of your brain just this. Everyone else is doing it. What a moron. My goodness. I love it. And you know that the Raiders are on hard knocks this year. Oh, are they really? Like that's that HBO documentary.

documentary. So, you know, and they're already a train wreck, you know, and just have crazy personalities already. It's just going to be amazing to see how that's all getting documented on there. That's awesome. Marshawn Lynch retired, right? He's not selling the Raiders? Correct.

That would have been great, though. Yeah. We'd love to hear his take. I think he might be an announcer for the Seahawks. You're kidding. I don't know. You're going to let him on the air? I don't know if he's going to be, like, the announcer, but yeah.

Like an HBO version of the announcer, like, if you want. He got in some hot water recently, too. What'd he do? Frostbite on his hands. No, he was running a camp. People would pay for their kids to come get coached by him. Yeah, like a three-day marshal running back camp. Basically, he was pretty, pretty hard on these guys,

saying some verbally rough things, which is what all NFL or what all football coaches do it's very well known that he grew up in compton and very much like yeah makes that part of his brand like and this woman came up and basically just like recorded him saying like like why would you do this why would you say all these things to my son he's like well because your son wasn't doing a good job you know he said it in a lot more uh non-elegant way than that i don't know what he said and he cussed cussed a little bit or something now certain people are just sad and bitter about it but i'm guessing you've seen the clip of uh marsh okay so after he has that very

infamous run you know back in the playoffs back in the day you know he breaks like eight tackles so they they do an interview they ask him, hey, break down that play for us. And then they put that in the background of Planet Earth 2 when the iguana is running away from the snakes. Have you seen this video? No, I haven't seen those matches. Everyone needs to Google that as soon as you're done listening to this. Yeah, it's Marshawn Lynch talking about a run where he breaks eight tackles.

And it's paired so perfectly with this Planet Earth 2 scene, which is called the greatest chase in documentary history. So if you can imagine those two things coming together, it's so funny. It's awesome. I mean, that interview by itself is great. Yeah. So I'm sure that that video is definitely awesome. I saw Ron Sharper coming.

I was like, no. Get out of my way. Yeah. Or yeah, Darren Sharper. They call power. I'm like, oh, I love power. I haven't gotten to power in a minute. Been waiting to get to power. Dude, I'm so excited for the NFL. I'm like oh I love power I haven't gotten to power in a minute been waiting to get to power

I'm so excited for the NFL I'm so excited for the Chiefs we could probably talk about football for the next 30 minutes I will plug one thing real fast I don't think that you probably have seen this and I just started watching it like two days ago the franchise, have you heard of it? it's a game mode on Madden

it's specifically for Chiefs fans but there's basically like a hard knocks light out there for the Chiefs it's a game mode on madden specifically for chiefs fans but there's basically like a hard knocks light out there for the chiefs oh someone's like making like it's a documentary yeah they've done six like 30 minute episodes only on youtube oh they're like very well like professionally made uh episodes and it's really good it just hypes you up even more for the chiefs sweet i don't have a lot going on this weekend so i'm gonna watch it when you i watched every single the other night br Brad sent me probably I would say 14 different links to different Chiefs

videos. I watched every single one of them and a bonus video when I got done. Oh, yeah? Yeah, there was a news article about Mahomes and where he grew up. He interviewed all of his hometown friends. Oh, that's cool. It's like an eight-minute story. Dude. It was awesome. The Chiefs are so fun. We're going to win state. Oh, they're going to win state.

Oh, my gosh. We're going to win state. Oh, they're going to win state. Oh, my gosh. We're going to win state. Dude. Yeah, I can't wait. I can't wait. I can't wait. I don't know what else to say. Well, we can say more football once the season's here, and then we'll really have some stuff to talk about.

Gosh. And you guys probably won't care, but we're still going to share a perspective on it. Yeah. Because that's what a podcast is, I think. I don't really know. Yeah, only listening for the five minutes that you actually can relate to or something. Yeah.

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get into the white meat the poultry um the poultry of it Brad has been wanting to go over basically our childhood on the pot and I'm hyped for it yeah i hope i hope it gets conveyed well we don't have to make this a multi-sectional you know thing multi-episode thing sure um but yeah we we talked about one time or another the reason ghost a recent episode ghost runners is because of ghost runner on second sure uh which is an allusion to my childhood, and I'm sure yours as well. We played a lot of wiffle ball growing up, and you didn't have enough people, so you had Ghost Runners. Very tough to find 9v9 wiffle ball.

And I just think it's always fun to get a little nostalgic, you know, no matter where you're from. But I truly believe, well, I think everyone probably believes this. Go for it, baby. I believe that, you know, we have one of the most unique experiences in generations. Our age of people, I was born in 1990, you were 91. Yep. Our age, we got to see the technological boom, but we got to see it at a late enough age

where we also experienced life without crazy technology. It truly feels like we came up in the sweet spot. We know analog and digital. We know like 10 to 15 years of analog. And now we know like 10 years of digital. I'm not trying to act like I'm like some 50 year old that, you know, really understands what it was like when video games first came out. Like, I understand. Let me tell you about the socioeconomic, you know, trends.

Like, Super Nintendo was popular, not Atari. So I understand, like... They've been around. Yeah, we didn't just, like... Like, the internet was not invented whenever we were born. Or, I mean, like, since we were born. I think it was invented earlier than that. But we got to experience what all that stuff eventually turned into.

And we appreciate... Like, I think we're in this rare sweet spot where we know what life was like without technology. We can appreciate it in a different way. But at the same time, we're very comfortable with this technology. You know, because I think that there's people eight years younger than us, we'll say, that just totally take for granted all this technology stuff. Yeah, because it's been handed. And there's people eight years older than us, like'll say that just totally take for granted all this technology stuff. Yeah. Because there's people eight years older than us, like let's say my sisters, which they're

still fine with technology, but they have some trouble sometimes with certain things that are kind of more intuitive to us because we just were in the sweet spot of like, you know, the 2000s hit. And I think we were both, I don't know. I think we were introduced to certain things. We got computers in our classrooms, I remember. Oh, yeah. I remember we went to library class one time

and there was this cabinet of like 30 laptops. We had a computer, like a moving computer shelf of laptops. And it was like, we all get our own laptop. And they each weigh 15 pounds. And we can bring it back to our desk. This is awesome. Yeah. And they last for 45 minutes without being plugged in.

That's sick. That's three games of Solitaire. That's the only thing you know how to get to. Right. No, I do think we're in such a sweet spot. We are the age where I can add, I can comfortably add someone's IGTV to my story and share it. But at the same time, I can write in cursive and read a clock. Not a lot of people can do all three, I feel like.

And I can. I can do all those things. Some people out there are like, IGTV, what? Yeah. Some people are like, clocks? You know one or the other. Any other generation. That's a great point.

Yeah. I was kind of reminiscing and thinking about this a little bit. And I remember the first person I ever heard of that had a cell phone, like a student my age that had a cell phone. Richie Rich? I remember her name was Casey. I don't remember her last name. Musgraves. Yes.

She was in sixth grade. And I remember thinking, there's a sixth grader out there with a cell phone. Wow. Like that's unheard of to me. And now I think we take for granted like the fact that we never have to wonder where our kids are. You know, like where the kids – like, oh, you just call them. Yeah. Like back in the day, you had to call every time you were like transferring houses.

Yeah. Yeah, I'm at Alex's now, but I'm going over to Sam's. Okay, call – you know, and like sometimes plans would change and we'd go to Sam's house. It's like, oh, gosh. Oh, jeez. My mom's going to be so mad at me because I didn't tell her I went to Keegan. Keegan. Everyone had a friend named Keegan on their baseball team.

I had Keegan Henderson. Did you really? Yeah. Oh, Keegan night, baby. Let's go. I absolutely had a Keegan in my friend group. You know, like cell phones are just so normal now. And not only cell phones, but real like powerful self like that can

find everything you want yeah you can you can literally have a gps on there that you know where your kids are you know where everyone else is you can google marshall lynch iguana snakes video and immediately find it yeah yeah you'll be very frustrated if you can't find it yeah like immediately yeah recently i was just realizing this about myself i was like man it's so strange and so unique. But every now and then, it's usually like a problem with like Premiere Pro and I'm editing. I'm like, I'm experiencing something and I Google it and it doesn't seem like anyone else is having that problem. It's crazy.

It's a weird feeling. I feel so lonely. Like no one else. The internet is so saturated with problems now. Like troubleshooting. And like common problems. Like typically if you're going through something, someone else is and they've written about it. Right.

Yeah, my back right shoulder itches. Like, is that a thing? What? After I shower. Back, right shoulder itches after showering in Colorado. Yes. It's a thing. Oh yeah.

It's because of Estes Park's pine needles. Yeah, there really is. Like you can Google. I mean, that's how I found out. I'm like, uh, feeling sick after eating meat. Right. Have you been bit by a tick? Yes. Oh my gosh. Okay. You have this allergy. All right. Sweet. I still haven't even gone to the doctor because I feel so confident. Yeah. I, I could

specifically back to the cell phone thing. I can remember I was in ninth grade watching a varsity basketball game sitting in the stands and someone was like, Oh, so-and-so got a cell phone. I think I'm going to ask for one for Christmas. And I was like, are you really? I was like, why do you need a cell phone? And they're like, you don't want a cell phone? Like, they can just talk to me. Why would I want to? I can remember having this conversation, like defending the old school. Like, they can just talk to me.

I don't need to, like, tell you anything like that. And it's so funny. Oh, man. When did you get your first phone? I got mine, I think it was either my 16th. I think it was my 16th birthday. Sweet 16. It was either 16 or 17 17 it was a great birthday i got a cell phone a letterman's jacket and the new madden it was awesome that's all and like not not trying to knock on my parents because they're

wonderful but that was like a very good birthday it was sweet 16 yeah like what is happening should have got mtv down there for that did casey kind of make fun of you she's like oh welcome to the cell phone club finally i wasn't really friends with casey tell me what sixth grade is she was actually a year older than me uh but i just remember hearing like this girl has a cell phone like what what was your first phone uh it was a sprint katana which was the sprint version of a razor katana i guess it's like razors are sharp a katana sword i guess it was very slim like it was very slim like a razor kind of was. Honestly, I thought it was better than a razor.

But, yeah. It was katana truthists. No data, no internet or anything like that. It had one ringtone. It was a Beck song. Okay. Every now and then people say I look like Beck. That's a good compliment.

Thank you. He's a very successful man. Yeah, they say I look like his success. That's what they say. You look like his. That's a good compliment. Thank you. He's very successful, man. Yeah. They say I look like his success. You look like his accomplishments. Right. Um, but yeah, not, not anything too crazy, but I loved it. Did your parents get a cell phone a little bit before you did? Oh yeah. Yeah. I remember playing snake on the Nokia. Yeah. Yeah. I remember, uh, when my dad got one that had like the tiniest little screen that also had a camera on the outside of the phone. I forget the brand, but it was like a singular phone and uh it was like in color because like nokia's were all black and white and they got like a color phone that's my color games on it i wonder what

it'd be like to go back to a flip phone i've genuinely thought about it and i don't know i don't know to this day i still say, and you'll probably agree, I was my fastest at texting when I had a Razor and had T9. Really? That is the best way, and especially because when you have tactile buttons, there was like a little raised edge on the 5, so you always knew where your thumb was at. So hoodie pockets, I was a machine. Oh, yeah.

Undiscovered. You would never know. Texting up a storm. I'll write my senior year paper out of my hoodie if I needed to yeah way easier to text in class yeah on a because now you can kind of guess i can get a few words i could probably say hey what's up without looking you got to make sure it says hey what's but then i got to confirm it not hey what's y'all that happens to me sometimes yeah what's y'all what's the most frustrating autocorrect thing that happens in your phone on a regular basis? Oh, I have one.

I can't think of it. Mine's Kobe and love. I have a friend whose name is Kobe. And so once you say someone's name on your phone, it becomes a word. So L-O-V-E and K-O-B-E are very similar. And so I write Kobe a lot. It just makes me so mad at Kobe. I want to delete him from my phone.

I might actually. I can to delete him from my phone. I might, actually. I can't think of what it is. One that I was thinking of recently is because I sent all those Mahomes tweets to you. I have a contact in my phone named Mahoney. Every time I try to text Mahomes, it would say Mahoney. You put Patrick Mahomes' name in your phone? Right. Just so when you do get his number later, it's quicker.

Yeah. Just for this day, I his number later, it's quicker. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I already have. Just for this day, I was anticipating it, Patrick. Just go ahead and put your number in. I got your name. Hey, no problem, man. Sounds good.

Spot on. That's how he sounds. Hey, man. Oh, yeah. But I just think it's an interesting, I don't know. It's hard for me to truly articulate all these thoughts about the way we live. Let's talk about music. That was one thing.

Oh, yeah. Music right now is Spotify, Apple Music, where you can literally be like, oh, dude, I loved that Red Hot Chili Pepper song. Let me pull it up for you. I want to listen to it right now. Or, oh, did you hear that, yeah, Lil Jon. I don't know why I thought he was Lil Jon. In the East Side Boys?

Lil Jon just came out with a new album. Like, of course he did. i don't know why in the east side boys little john just came out with a new album like of course he did uh i don't know why it's a little job but uh first artist that comes to mind they might have a new album little john little side boys and so you just listen to this song right away whereas back in the day it was either like you either took pride in the fact that you had it like like you have, so like we were the first generation to have access to an iPod, you know, or have the ability to have an iPod

that had more than, you know, 20 songs on it. Like back in the day, it was a CD that you could have. I remember the day and age where we also burned lots of CDs. I was burning discs.

CD RWs. Oh, never had the RWs, dude. They're too expensive. Well, you hads? Oh, never had the RWs, dude. They're too expensive. Well, you had to get the RWs because it was read-write. Rewritable, I thought, is what it was. Oh, maybe that's what it was. So you could re-burn onto the disc. Yeah, you could put it again. Yeah, I must have been pretty rich.

I guess so, man. Or you're not burning enough. CD-RWs. I had a big old stack of those Memorex. You could sometimes fit maybe 18. 18 was like pushing it. Oh, no. I could get 21 sometimes.

Oh, you had shorter songs than I did. Big, quick jock jams. You know, 30-second clips or something. Everybody get up. It's time to jam now. But yeah. So back in the day, it was like if you want to listen to this, you either have to have it on your iPod or somebody has to have it on their iPod. Yeah.

Or you have to go download it from illegally somewhere. Or you can download it on your iPod or somebody has to have another iPod. Yeah. Or you have to go download it from, you know, illegally somewhere, or you can download it on iTunes. Let's be real. How many people actually did that? I probably did that 25 times in my life. I probably spent $25 on iTunes. And it was only like, okay, at school I won this thing and they gave me $25 iTunes gift card. Okay. I guess I'll use that on 25 songs. Like I remember downloading some office episodes onto my video iPod whoa talk about rich i know i never had a video ipod oh you didn't i went i think i was just a nano guy no i had the color video ipod and it was awesome whoa yeah it was only a nano but i was so proud of how many songs i had and there were so many artists on there that i never listened to like i know you

say you like little wayne a lot like i had every single little wayne song probably in high school and which is never listened to him because i remember in you remember like 2008 when he was like little wayne a lot like i had every single little wayne song probably in high school and which is never listened to him because i remember in you remember like 2008 when he was just on every song yeah there was so much music it was because one of my friends had like his dad had some access to all this music and so we just went over there and just like oh we're putting all these songs on i would go to the piratebay.com and there's this torrent that said uh um complete like little wayne discology and i don't know how many songs like i heard him say later in an interview well is that a tornado

siren no it's just like a motorcycle or something um i remember he said basically he didn't say no to a feature for like a certain amount of time because i remember thinking i was like that makes sense because i felt like he was in every song for yeah in 2008 yeah never listened to any of them but had them just had them all in case you needed them now were you guys a napster family because I felt like he was in every song in 2008. Yeah, I'd never listened to any of them. But had them just in case. But had them all in case you needed them. Now, were you guys a Napster family? Sean Parker?

No. Never got into it. Napster was a little too early for me because my family growing up for a long time did not have high-speed internet. Gotcha. Well, no one had high speed. No, no, no. People had high speed.

Casey's family probably had high speed. We had dial-up until probably late into high school. No. no no no people had high speed uh casey's family probably had high speed we had the uh i mean we had dial up until probably late into high school no we were in strafford that's too late we're in strafford we didn't have any other options you didn't even have options yeah no my cousins my cousins were always a little more on the cutting edge of technology than we were everyone's cousins are just more advanced i feel like that's how i was really yeah so we went yeah we went to their house and it was always like holy cow this is awesome whoa HDTV but we did get it I mean I probably got in junior high um but by that time Napster was gone and it was either Kaza or LimeWire never got down on Kaza

yeah actually I don't even know if I've heard of that or BearShare you ever heard of BearShare no yeah those are there's all kind of the same websites yeah LimeWire eventually kind of won out is the most popular one I feel yeah Lime lime wire was pretty mainstream and then did you ever use frost wire no it was just like the same thing but less bugs maybe like less spam but that surprised me never used an app sir you heard about it though like you knew about all that yeah but by the time but remember they got in all that trouble and they like got shut down oh yeah well no one knew if it was legal or not it was just or i remember we didn't as consumers like our family we had it in our house just like oh really which it kind of makes me wonder how my parents even found out

about it but you know they're just like hey there's this thing where you can just just choose a song get it for free it was so awesome so we just got everything and then yeah it turns out that was super illegal which is crazy like now you don't have to worry about that stuff at all like you just have spotify yeah hey if you don't want to pay for it that's okay you're just gonna have to listen to an ad every 15 minutes or so yeah yeah music has seen a lot of change and i mean how much longer before no one ever touches music again meaning what like cds and well that's what my my premise is that and this is extreme but you never need to buy another physical copy of cds or dvds oh yeah we kind of talked about

dvds a little yeah i don't think i don't think i have any desire to do that ever again i can't think of a practical reason that you would need unless it's like a very very special like my friend jake came out with this album or yeah the kansas city chiefs just won the super bowl you know and they have this highlight video like something like that i'll buy the dvd that's more of a commemorative to look at right it's kind of like a record would be or something you know but yeah for the most part it's completely digital for me do you think they'll ever like obviously people are going to stop buying them but do you think they'll ever truly go away because if like the trend in technology is like you know there used to be the newspaper right and then the radio comes out everyone's like oh well there goes the newspaper you know and that's the

newspaper is still around and that happened with you know tv and that happened you know every big technology i don't know let's talk about that for a second because i think newspapers going down quick what's going to go first, newspapers or CDs? CDs. Well, you're talking about physical newspapers. Physicals. Or getting a physical. What will you do next?

Buy a CD, get a newspaper, or get a physical? I'm going to guess CDs are first. Yeah, they seem like the least used. When was the last time you popped in a cd i would say 2012 yeah probably hattie does have we have some like kids cds that we use for her and it's kind of inconvenient like if we don't have them it's like dang it like they're not on our phones yeah we can't access this anywhere so but yeah i think they're they're goners which is crazy it'll be interesting this

is actually kind of exciting to think about like i think now like oh newspapers that you know that's good still for older people to still read the paper that's why those are still around and so it'll be fun to see like okay let's say you and i are in our 70s and 80s what are we still hanging on to what will we be hanging on to that no one else really is probably something with like how we drive our cars or something like that they still they they still drive their own cars right might be something like that or also kind of a theory that remote controls like like these dag nabbit like cell phone i don't know how to use the hologram controller right like i just want a physical remote yeah i want to feel the buttons in my fingers i want to get chip crumbs in them so the power button doesn't work i don't know why

my voice is going to change i want to tape the back of that remote so the batteries don't fall out i kind of have a theory that like you said this unique period of time that we've got to grow up in like we've gotten very used to adapting and changing to technology that i think those traits those learned traits are going to stick with us and we will continue to be the first generation that does a good job continuing to adapt to technology yeah you know we're only 27 28 but so far we've done a good job right and i think there will be a lot of us who continue to do a good job of keeping up with technological trends and knowing what face id is and knowing how to use it and knowing, you know, different things like that. I just hope that we don't ever fall away from like God. Yes.

No, fall away from like the initial learning, like how we learn to use or to live without technology. Like, because I think that the potential issue for people like kids, like my daughter right now, like growing up with technology that she never learned how to we're trying to teach her you know beyond screens like how to function you know but i hope she seems like she's doing great she played with that make believe milk for a long time tonight yeah she we are like very very uh intentional about not giving her too much technology right now can i just say say, from the little I see, love the way you parent Hattie. Oh, yeah? Like, both in how much you have her reading.

I'm big on adolescent reading. Thanks. And also, no screens. I think that's great. Or at least, like, she doesn't have her own iPad yet. No, absolutely not. Which I think is a good call. Absolutely not.

She, Friday nights are our movie nights, usually, which we didn't do tonight. Oh, sorry. Yeah, funny enough. Probably my bad. I don't know why we didn't do it honestly didn't think about it probably um hey real quick uh once upon a time in hollywood is that what it's called yeah i heard it's great was thinking about seeing a little matinee tomorrow oh do you want to go i'm very interested in that i have to go to fort scott kansas by 4 p.m but before that i'm free okay okay well we can

continue that later go on you want to see that i don't know have you seen tarantino movies before not really okay you should probably watch one i just heard it's good i don't know he's just very different with his style i just want to make sure you like those kind of i like quentin tarantino a lot i saw django the movie about the board game and that was pretty good um it was about the blocks that come back and fall. It was not nearly as lifelike as... It wasn't as realistic to the board game as I was hoping. But it was still a good movie.

Okay, so if you've seen that, then you know his style, at least. Yeah, it's pretty... Violent. You see everyone's blood. Right. It's kind of his style, from what I can tell. Very, very, like, over-the-top violent. Sorry, I interrupted. That's okay. okay movie night didn't get around to it yeah it's okay um i don't know other

things i thought of for this technology yeah what do you got uh we talked a little bit about this the other day but like remember when ebay was like on the come up ebay was so hot like back in the day oh my gosh like yeah what what did you buy from ebay do you on the come up ebay was so hot like back in the day oh my gosh like yeah what what did you buy from ebay do you remember anything you bought back in the day uh i think i bought my ipod nano off ebay really i bought i tried to buy one first or like for the first time and you know back in the day you don't really know what a reputable website looks like and right so i got screwed i spent like 200 on a no way i thought. You got scammed? iPod never came. Yeah. Oh, boy. Might have been the only time I've really been scammed like that.

But, you know, live and learn. Wow. Since then, I have learned. That's a bummer. $200 when you're that little is so much money. It was devastating. Yeah. I mean, I was probably 15, you know, but still I didn't have an income yet.

Right. This is just a lot of Christmas money. It's your birthday and Christmas. I think I bought Showdown cards. MLB Showdown? Yeah, and I think I sold some too on eBay. Actually, I might have just sold some. That's awesome.

What about you? I randomly remember buying these inflatable chairs. I don't know why. I thought they looked so cool. Did you go out of your way searching for them? Or just like you found them like, whoa, hold on here. I think I was searching for something else and somehow it was one of those suggested things. I don't know.

But I thought it was the coolest thing. They were just like very like heavy-duty, inflatable, like kind of like inner tube chairs. I know exactly what you're talking about. I put them in my room. I had an inflatable ottoman. And I had like a TV in my room, which was really cool. I think I had an Xbox, maybe just my Dreamcast at the time. Sega Dreamcast, I was one of 15 people who owned a Sega Dreamcast.

I did not. I won it at a raffle at school. It was the most exciting time. I never had a Sega. Or maybe it was even an N64 that I played. It doesn't matter. I had those inflatable chairs. Those are the big things I remember.

But I remember like trying to, you know, you like back then it was like you had to actually, the time ended. Like now I think it like extends the time. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. But then it was like crazy. Eight Oh six. This auction is over. I didn't have great internet. It was very hard to win. You had to like, yeah. Refresh. But it took like 15 seconds to refresh you had to time it yeah oh man it was so intense i forgot i did buy some bows headphones in high school too

but that was a little bit easier back in high school because it was better internet but it was so hard to win a bid um my goodness uh anyway but ebay was so it was like anything you could think of is on here yeah this is awesome just search search kc royals and like look at what all this memorabilia you can find um ebay was crazy it was it really was and now we're just so used to getting everything immediately and finding anything we want online like anything we want i wonder yeah like i need like a father's day gift i wonder if there's a back scratcher that's shaped like a nine iron because he loves golf you know like yeah that's definitely a thing you could probably find that if not genius idea

back scratcher shaped his golf clubs this is a good idea i just came up with that too can you believe that uh okay you mentioned your room let's go tvs what are we talking i had a 13 incher 19 inch not trying to brag that's okay but you haven't heard the next part vcr built in you're kidding no wow no never had one of those that's right those were nice yeah i would uh what about the vcr dvd you ever see those? Remember those? The combo set? Yeah. We didn't own that. Neither did we, but I saw them. But I know they exist. Oh, yeah.

I remember looking at the ads every Saturday for TVs and stuff and Best Buy. Like looking at like whatever. Being like, do I want to get that one or that one? Or 27 inches, that's big, but I have to save up a lot more for that. I would have to sit further away from the TV. I have to move my chair. Fun fact, our house got struck by lightning when i was in high school really and it was when i was staying over at a friend's house so i was not actually there it was like right above my sister's room too and it could have easily you

know taken our house and burned it down but it didn't luckily but like a bunch of our appliances got fried oh and so i got like so through insurance we got a new like new tvs a new xbox like all these different things um which was kind of crazy was your family big on buying blank vhs tapes so you could tape over them we definitely taped over taped things i don't know if we like i can't remember having blank ones around very often but usually it was like we had a big enough collection that we were like i mean are we really going to watch this, you know, Bedknobs and Broomsticks again? No, let's record over that with the KU game. You know, that kind of thing.

That's funny. We were big on it. We didn't own that many movies. We would just wait for them to come on TV and record them. I love it. Like, that's how I saw Dumb and Dumber. Like, Tommy Boy, like our version of Tommy Boy we had, completely, for some reason, left out. Like, we either hit pause and stop the scene where

the hood of the car flies up in a wreck and he does the whole like not here or here so much right like i missed i didn't see that till like way later in life i was like what is this deleted scene and that's in there the whole time yeah liar liar that's where i've watched the office for the first time i was like wow i really like this show and I would use the blank tapes yeah on VHS I remember writing Oscars Gay for the actual episode title was Gay Witch Hunt but I didn't know I was just watching it on NBC yeah I wrote like

Burned Foot Oscars Gay you know just for The Office episodes yeah it was great that's what I had middle school all through high school played PS2 on it everything Madden that's awesome dude i love it yeah i miss miss those times it also kind of reminds me back to the music thing i remember i used to have this mp3 player this in middle school that was pretty cool it was like you could listen to like fm radio on it

and you could start recording a song and then save it on your mp3 player so it's actually really nice i think this actually really helped my memory at like a decent young age because i had to remember like okay three is this 11 is this 14 is this you couldn't rename it so you had to remember okay 17 is my life be like gotcha uh by grits oh but now 43 okay now i have the full version because i've recorded at the beginning. Gotcha. It was orange and white. Huh. And I would listen to it as I fell asleep a lot.

Yeah, it was awesome. I think it was so great. That is awesome. I remember doing that, like recording the radio on your thing, but never like MP3 style. Did you get down on the Razor scooters? I never had a scooter. Really? Yeah, everyone else did.

I'm kind of a cautious person in general. I was definitely a cautious kid when it came to stuff like that. I was just like, I'm going to get hurt if I do that. Not worth it. Fun fact, this is kind of embarrassing, but I didn't learn how to ride my bike until I was like a fourth grader. Oh, that's not as embarrassing as I thought maybe it was going to be. Really?

Yeah. I just feel like that's pretty old. It is. Okay. I mean, at that point, Casey's a fifth grader. She's only a year away from getting a cell phone. She's about to get her own Nokia and you are still working on balancing the training wheels on. Right. Huh? Yeah. I don't know what age I was when I learned to ride a bike, but I remember the stuff we didn't go training wheel style. It was just get on the bike. run alongside me while holding uh like scrunching up the back of my shirt and hanging onto that and then running next to me and if i fall over he just picked me up and you're fine it was fine it was great huh i was fantastic that's cool i hope howdy learns at a young age yeah i will without those screens she's a genius without screen time oh yeah the less ipad i think the quicker she will learn to ride a bike in direct correlation for sure yeah man 90s yes there yeah you can you can unpack a lot more i thought about map quests like you had to like know where you were going before you left

you would print it out right every mom was so good at printing out map quests right directions like now like people just put in directions all the time on their phone as you're going there do you know how to get anywhere without those things you know i forgot about map quest it is kind of funny to think about like like map quest is a great example like they used to dominate the navigation market and for some reason they didn't adapt or they didn't do something right and now no one uses them i want yeah i wonder what is that is going to be that for this generation. What's really popular right now that it's not going to –

Is Spotify going to die soon? Probably. Maybe. Maybe. It just feels like it's something that's not backed up enough by other big companies. I feel like if – this is something I'm just coming up with off the top right now. But if there's any car company that doesn't do a good job like transitioning into electric i think they're gonna get left behind yeah i don't know kind of like i said

just kind of came up with it but as i'm thinking about it like i think if you don't if they don't do a good job adapting they're definitely gonna get left behind it's like whoa remember when like chevy's used to be chevy's were one of like the big four car brands right you know well they now you never even heard of them i don don't know. Yeah. Could be. That'd be wild. It is fun to think about, yeah. Netflix is such a great example in business of, like, leaving your pride at the door and, like, you know, because they were a pretty big company doing the mail things to you,

and they saw the whole digital streaming thing coming, and they said, all right, we're going to ditch the mail thing. We're going to dive into this, and Blockbuster and family video aren't a thing anymore and netflix is gosh they did such a great job adapting i do remember the first time i was like you can just go on this website and just click a button and watch all these different movies like whoa and like it's not gonna take forever to download it It's just there. Yeah. It was wild. Do you remember when someone tried to explain what the cloud was to you? I had a real tough time comprehending what that meant.

Really? It was freshman year of college. Yeah. I was in like a mass media class and he was telling me about how like the future of music, it's going to be in the cloud and you don't own it. You'll just retrieve it from the cloud when you need it. And that makes sense now, obviously. But at the time I was like, I don't understand this.

So it's not my cloud or it is my cloud. You know, like I wanted possession of it. And he's like, no, the cloud, we all share the cloud. Oh, I never really was introduced to it like that. I think I just learned through Google Docs. And so it totally made sense. It was like, yeah, this website has all your documents on it. You don't have to have it on your computer.

Yeah. And so I was like, sweet. Cool. And I can send that to somebody else and they can look. Yeah, totally. I do the front. They do the back.

I'm going with this. Microsoft word. Yeah. I do the odds. They do the evens and we're done with our math problems. Shut up. Google docs. Yeah,

that's great. Even like, I don't know. We can talk about this forever, but Amazon, Amazon was not a thing. No. Like the end of our college. Amazon, the beginning of our college,

was where you went to buy cheap books, cheap textbooks. That was it. Yeah. And now it's everything. It's just crazy. And that was my main thing in college. As you know, I ran that company,

buying and selling textbooks. And yeah, I was kind of on the brink of losing a lot of business to amazon but i was still kind of in the right time to where i could yeah you know run a company only selling textbooks and not losing out to amazon too much i think now it would be very very hard to do what we were doing because they weren't quite the titan that they are today but yeah it's so funny to think back to like people being scared to buy things on the internet and like stranger danger was such a big thing that we grew up on and now it's like you can literally summon a stranger to pick you up wherever you want

hop in their car they'll take you uber's wild gotta love it it's wild but at the same time it's like it's not that different than a taxi except you have a different colored car yeah it's true like why is this taxi like so much more reputable than this other thing we just trust yellow i don't know well we're over an hour we can talk more 90s next episode potentially yes send us your thoughts on 90s things if you have them favorite favorite toys favorite memories music anything we're down to get nostalgic yes we can do this i'll admit that i was a backstreet boys guy but i i wish i were an insane guy you wish you were you wish you would have been in hindsight of course doesn't

everybody i love jessie timberlake now but yeah back in the day i was like no backstreet boys like we're i want to go i think their songs were better, though, so I don't blame you. Really? Yeah. Oh, man. Thanks, man. The music to the... What is it?

Back streets, back, all right. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Like, that's a groovy vibe. It was like this. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. That was pretty nice. Wait, wow, wow, wow. Wow, wow, wow, wow. That was pretty nice. Wait, no. Is that the same song?

I think it's a different song, but that was... Wow, wow, wow, wow. Like Patrick Rowe. Wow, wow. Oh, man. Either way. Yeah. Great music, great tunes.

Yeah, let us know any 90s tips via direct message. Thanks for people sending me music suggestions, by the way. Have they been? Yeah, a few people have. Have you responded to Graham Dodd yet? I don't think I have. Yes. Nice.

We'll keep that going. Maybe if Graham sends me one more message. Maybe the third one. He's an uncle now, which is fun. So shout out to Jordan Dodd for having a baby. Maybe that's what you'll say Yeah Don't respond to anything he said

Just say congrats on the unclehood Congrats on uncleing Gosh Well That's it for the Backstreet Boys Ghost Ghost Runners

Ghost Runners Ha ha ha Ha So they do man I wish I didn't do that Right then That was fine It was great Gosh I'm gonna bring it full circle Not full circle Miniature circle Ah, so they do, man. I wish I didn't do that right then.

That was fine. It was great. Gosh. I'm going to bring it full circle. Not full circle. Miniature circle. I wasn't a Backstreet Boys or NSYNC guy because I didn't really listen to secular music until like eighth grade. But I'll tell you what I was.

I was a big Weird Al guy and he had a song about eBay. Do you remember that one? No. Instead of you saying, I want it that way okay but it's i got it on ebay oh okay can you imagine it yes yeah it's nice i think i know every word of that song still um because he talked oh kind of like we talked about like when you have to like uh get it the last second and he taught you like uh i can snipe you with like one second to go uh wow yeah great stuff did you listen to weirdo i had one of his i burned one of his cds

from my cousin poodle hat it was the one that had amish paradise on it oh that one is a little older uh gump had talked about forrest gump is called gump i've literally never even heard the song instead of lump there's a famous song called Lump by the president of the United States of America. And they had Gump. Huh. Yeah, this is one album older than mine. Yeah, that's the thing is I grew up with a lot of older cousins. I'm the baby of our family.

And I was the non-baby. A lot of the things that I experienced in my childhood are probably things that you didn't. Older people. You probably haven't watched nearly the That's Our Raven things that I experienced in my childhood are probably things that you didn't. Older people. You probably haven't watched nearly the That's So Raven episodes that I have. I did enjoy those a lot. Okay, never mind. Only because we didn't have Disney Channel, and so on vacation, I loved watching That's So Raven and Kim Possible. Oh, okay.

Lizzie McGuire was all right. Even Stevens was all right. But That's So Raven and Kim Possible were my jams. I didn't get down on Kimbo but yeah I was into Raven and Lizzie big time you probably had a crush on Lizzie I had a younger sister and oh wait I didn't hear what you said

I thought you were about to dox me whoops I didn't have that actually no you're so right no you're I can specifically remember sitting in my car and thinking or not in my car this is when I'm in like seventh grade and thinking this is kind of embarrassing to admit but probably every seventh grader thought this I was like you know if Hilary Duff got to know me

I really think I would have a chance I really think if she if I just somehow met her yeah I remember thinking that I was on my way to Kansas City in the in the minivan I love it man you have you have the good self-esteem that you know like i'm a good guy like she would like me what would she not like what's there not to like my big crushes were this podcast is never gonna end uh hayden panettiere and her great work in remember the titans sure we kind of grew up together same age yeah um in that sense we didn't grow up together at all, but our ages are similar. And then I remember the first African American I had a crush on was Aqua from the Cheetah Girls. So I was not really into Raven, but it was her sidekick. It was the other member of Destiny's Child.

I never saw Cheetah Girls. Really? No, because I didn't have Disney Channel. Okay. So I didn't see everything. Cheetah Girls 2 is in Spain, though. You would love it holy cow study abroad bartha bartha i uh i like many more back in the day i thought she was what was she in

that we would have seen um music just just popular music oh you know the music i don't know she wasn't in that much but yeah mandy moore is she the one that you don't know who mandy moore is no no i do she ended up marrying ashton Kutcher, right? That's Demi Moore. Really? Yeah. Mandy Moore's Walk to Remember. Okay.

Gotcha. I've never even saw that movie. I don't know why I thought, I just thought she was cute and wholesome. So I was like, yep, I'll take it. Cute and wholesome. That's great. Those are my criteria. All right.

Well, this has been an episode of cute and wholesome. That's great. Those are my criteria. All right. Well, this has been an episode of cute and wholesome. I'm cute. And I'm definitely wholesome baby. So thanks for listening. Uh, longest episode yet. Yeah. I think it was good though.

We had the energy tonight. I just had chilies. I got something new from chilies tonight and it was Cajun pasta. It was so good. Cajun chicken pasta. Yes. I used to always get that. Well,

it's back baby. Oh, it's so good. Was that shrimp? It. Yes. I used to always get that. Well, it's back, baby. Oh. It's so good. Does it have shrimp? It can. If you order shrimp. I ordered chicken. It can if you ask for it.

If you say that's what you want, they'll give it to you. They're real nice. Love it, dude. Okay. I'm out of breath. It's time to go. So put up your sneakers. Is this a haiku? We loved you listening. it's time to go. So put up your sneakers. It's a high.

We, we loved you listening. Please come back next week for more ghost runners. When does it rhyme? What is that? Just a little free verse to end it. I was trying to think of something with sneakers to rhyme the whole time. And it did not come to me.

Uh, we were here sitting in our sneakers. We talk to you like we were your preachers. That's a slant rhyme is what we call that. Okay. You know,

I like Eminem. Yeah. He's big on the slant rhymes. Orange. Doorhinge. Ooh. Yeah. That's good.

You're welcome. All right. It's actually ending now. Bye, guys. See you later. I love you. Oh. Oh, yeah.

I'll say it