Ghostrunners - 379 - A Christmas Card From Kirk Cousins (w/ Justin Kershaw)

Episode Date: October 30, 2024

Timon and Jake recap more stories from their trip to Las Vegas together, Scott tried coffee for the first time, and Justin from Sow Strong joins once again to answer our (no) dumb questions about football! Check out Sow Strong Food and used code GRKC for 15% off at https://www.sowstrongfood.com/ Check out Good Ranchers and use code GRKC http://bit.ly/3KV86YU Check out Main Street Roasters and use code GRKC at check out for a 10% discount! https://mainstreetroasters.com Ghostrunners merch: https://bit.ly/399MXFu Become a Patron and get exclusive content from Jake & Brad: https://bit.ly/2XJ1h3y Follow us on Instagram: http://bit.ly/33WAq4P Leave us a voice memo and ask a question: https://anchor.fm/jake-triplett/message Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Been talking about this kid a lot of the podcast. I'm gonna bring him up one more time. Our second favorite 18 year old, Zach. Our darling Zach. Time is friend. Saturday, he texted me, he said, wish me luck, bro. Oh, the prayers emoji, yeah. That was about Georgia.

He said, no. I'm Tyman's older sister's homecoming date tonight. Ooh. This emoji. Salute. I sent him a pretty interesting GIF, expressing my confusion. He said, my thoughts exactly, thank you.

I said, Anna, I said, what kind of homecoming has kids older than high school? And I was like, wait, is this a college homecoming? I said, I have so many questions. He said, it's college, yes. I guess he didn't realize that Anna was off to college. Yeah, in America. I said, that makes way more sense.

I didn't realize she went to college and I didn't realize you would cheat on Georgia like this. Yeah. He said, Georgia is a lost cause and you know it. I said, you've never seen a rom-com where the guy's persistent, I guess. But anyway, he asked for any tips and I said, don't do anything I wouldn't do.

He said, I can't do anything then. So, Tymon, what is the story of this? Tell me, tell us everything. There's not that much to it. Just like. I mean, yeah, they're both single. So there was like, and I was like, and I needed a date. He was like, I'll do it.

They went. He volunteered. Yeah, she didn't like ask. Well, I can't honestly not sure how it went. I'll do it. I don't know. No, I'll do it. They went. He volunteered. Yeah. She didn't like ask. Well, I can't honestly not sure how it went. I'll do it. I don't know. I'll do it. She barely gets the word out. I don't know. I'm single and I can go by myself. I can do it. I'll do it. I got it. Say no more. I'll jump on that grenade. Please let me jump on it. She's like, well, there's, I mean, I'm in college. Like there's plenty of guys. I'll do it. No, no, no, no,

no, no. When you're a little young. No, no, no, no, no, no, no in college like there's plenty of guys. Oh, no No one will know pass I'll be fine I'm actually I'm not sure who invited who or how it worked, but I mean they had fun. I think That's it is just so random. I mean yeah, really high school kid threw me off that he texted me about it, too I'll do it wish me luck He was like starting a company. Were you texting before this? Absolutely not. Out of the blue, wish me luck.

Yeah, our previous text was 15 days before that. Wish me luck, bro. Wish me luck, bro. Wish me luck, bro. Saturday night at 6 p.m. All right, that's the new thing. I'm just gonna text Jake. We should text each other.

Hey, wish me luck. Oh yeah. What's about to happen? They text each other. Hey, wish me luck. Oh yeah. What's about to happen? They have to ask what's, you can't explain anything. I only have 30 minutes to go grocery shopping and you know, so I'm praying for short lines. Wish me luck, bro. What's going on?

I feel like I've been eating a lot of fruit, but I can't poop. You can do it, man. Wish you luck. Thank you. Stop doing it! Stop! Uh oh, ooh I think this tight beat means that it's going down with some random thoughts and white meat too Midwest best friends eating fast food on repeat so come along let's have

some fun and go ahead get on your feet cause this is Ghost from the Sparky House Ghost from the Sparky House Every Monday morning we're taking grand baths from the Sparky House Ghost from the spark, yeah Go for a vodka Happy Wednesday, ghosties Happy Wednesday, ghosties What's new in y'all's life? Timon, you've pneumonia? Pneumonia boy. Yeah, you beat pneumonia.

I did, getting over it. We will intercept pneumonia. Yep. Are they still doing that? I think they've got enough flack for like we gotta stop intercepting this disease I mean, I know you're a big football guy. So you've seen all the the signage. It says intercept cancer Yeah, which yeah is just it. Did you ever use that and stand up? No, it's stand up just on the podcast It's such a funny stand-up bit I think like just such a funny idea of like intercepting why why intercept when you can do so many other football terms for the Same thing punt Pond cancer. Tackle cancer. Beat cancer. That's right there. Intercept it. Yeah. Now I have it.

Right. Now I'm, I'm carrying the ball down the field. So yeah, you feeling better though? I mean, you're still coughing a little. Yeah. The only evidence that I had is this little cough that I still have, but otherwise feel great. I have played pickleball now. Sorry. That's, that's how you know. Yeah. I played pickleball now. So I'm capable of living the life that I need. That's all I need. That's the good. Yeah. I, uh, back in the day, whenever we would choke on food, my parents would always make us say our name. So that's like, that's our barometer. Like when you're your barometer for like, if you're healthy, you got to say, yeah, if I play pick ball, like it was like, what's your name? Brad. Like, okay, I guess he's fine. He can

talk. So, so I see. So it was just a test if you could talk. It wasn't if you're choking. It was, no, it was a cognitive test. It was like, is he an idiot? Yeah. Went down the wrong pipe, you know, acupuncture, it'll mess you up. You know, if you hit the wrong nerve, I'm learning inside your body, it can make you no longer, you know, literate. So. I still need to talk to Catherine about this.

She's excited. Because for the most part, ghosties were like, this is kind of fun. Let me know if it works. Totally. I feel like people were like, the allergy testing, kind of weird, but let us know if the milk rod works. I think the long story short, first of all,

Catherine's very excited to talk to you all about it. I think her long story short is like, that sounds a little too crazy, but you know, maybe it's worth a shot, basically, is what her thoughts were. The testing with the arm or like the ear rod? Maybe both. Well, I don't know.

I don't think she said she's done that muscle thing with some, in some context before. And she's like, it's crazy because you're like, I swear I'm, I'm, she's like, I'm trying to resist him. Like, it's not just like holding it there and seeing if he can push it down. So, but yeah, I think overall she's like, I don't know if I completely, she's like, she got into like the idea of like Chinese, there's mysticism and all this, you know, deeper stuff maybe or whatever.

But I'm like, I don't want to represent her too much on this. And then people will be like, well, Catherine said, and I'm like, I don't know if that's exactly what she meant, but she's very, my personal thing is like, this guy is making such a bold claim of like, you're going, you've been allergic to meat this whole time. I'm going to fix it by doing this thing. That's a very measurable thing, whether or not you're going to be allergic to it after this. So therefore it's like, I mean, if enough people aren't affected positively from this thing, it's like, well, this guy's not gonna be in business anymore.

That's where I'm at too. I'm like, the art thing, I don't know. Honestly, I don't even really care. I know I'm already allergic. Rod me up. Yeah, that's kind of what I'm like, because you're going to absolutely know if it worked or not. It's not gonna be like, they say they have this stuff in me and now they, that's kind of what I'm like, because you're going to absolutely know if it worked or not.

It's not gonna be like, they say that I have this stuff in me and now they say it's gone. It's like, well, but you- It's measurable if it's gone or not. Yeah, you ate a steak and you just had terrible sickness for three days. Sentiments, where else?

Right, so yeah. Andrew Thurbus found it. No, you can't feel it. Okay. Yeah, and I'm trying to stay out of the water as much as I can, lost a consequence in Palm Springs, had to do a belly flop, full-scent. Okay. Yeah, I am trying to stay out of the water as much as I can lost a consequence in Palm Springs had to do belly flop full sent it still. Oh, did you? Yeah, just like whatever rods or not Andrew Thurbush found this guy's dr. Ones Facebook page. It is a treat

Unbelievable, which is really fun. And then and I who was oh Daniel Ming. He made a good point he was like the you should do this with like a like a weighted system. That way it's not like, like instead of the guy like pushing you or fake pushing you down, like it should be like a dumbbell that like is pushing your arm down.

And it's like less independent variables. I did tell Catherine, I was like, is there any chance that like maybe just your brain plays a trick on you and your muscle messes up. Didn't feel like it. I was strong. I know. Yeah. That's so interesting, dude. Anyway, enough about my ears. A few just Vegas things that we should go over now that Timon's back. One, Timon was there. I just sent you guys the video. Scott, for whatever reason,

I just, Vegas brings us out of here. We're at Chick-fil-A. It's like seven and thirty in the morning. We just landed in Vegas and he just decides to try his first coffee ever. So yes, in city he's taking it to heart. Yeah. And also Chick-fil-A coffee is the worst coffee and that's trust me. We told him. Okay. Yeah. We told We told him he knew that. So we tried some of TJ's coffee, who I think had put some sugar and some cream in it. Okay. So it's like, all right, this may not be that bad. So I sent you this video.

Okay. I actually have not even watched this back, but here's a video. We'll put it up on the screen. Scott's first coffee. Breathe it up. Oh! Oh! It's not that bad. For real? There's cream and sugar in there.

Oh, that tastes horrible. It's like coffee. You drink that? Oh! He just could not, he's like, that's bad. He could not get over it the whole rest of the trip. Just like, you guys drink that every morning. Because when we would go to the coffee shop,

Scott, you want to give another try? No, no. And I think Tymon gave him like one of his coffee milkshakes. It's like, that's my kind of coffee. Now we're talking. Yeah, it looks like there's an ice, is that your iced coffee? Yes.

Yeah, maybe that would have been better, but still I think you would have just been absolutely disgusted by it. He just looks like a guy who would love a pot of coffee. Yeah. In one way. Because he said, I feel like he's just like, he's a, he's just like a corporate, maybe it's because I know his job. Maybe that's what it is. Just like you wake up. Yeah. Yeah. Head to the office, get a little cup of coffee. I can see him like having a conversation while he's stirring in his cream and sugar at the, uh, like, uh, like what's it called? Like the break room, you know, talking to somebody like, Oh yeah, those new box are crazy. I

mean, half the, half the thickness and twice the durability. I can't, I can't imagine doing something like that. Can't you see him saying that? And with like, with like true like passion behind it. Like not like I'm not interested in this. Like I'm actually, I'm invested in this as my job. It's funny. I've been around Scott enough times, like I've seen him take multiple calls and multiple meetings for Smucker while he's with us for Pickleball stuff.

And man, it sounds boring. It's the worst. And yeah, do you think it's not boring to him anymore? Or is it like, yeah, well, you know, we were on that pickleball podcast last week and they asked him like, so Scott and Isaac, are you guys looking to like take on more work? Like, would you like to be able to quit your jobs and be able to do Friday more full time? And Scott said I would send in my resignation tonight. I would do it as soon as possible. Scott's always been like, I'm ready to be done with this.

But yeah, I'm excited to listen to that podcast. So all three of you are on it. Yeah. And we went for like, I mean, I don't know how much they trimmed, but we recorded for like two hours. Oh, wow. I couldn't believe how long they went to talk to us. Just straight conversation or do you guys do any like fun?

Just conversation. And it was mainly, it was not even about the, I thought it was going to be way more about the paddles. It was mainly about content creation and. Yeah. But it wasn't bad. I mean, like Scott did a really good job. Scott was really funny.

Isaac was really funny. Like they did a good job. They are good. Yeah, they're natural. I was thinking about that with Rachel. I was listening back to the podcast last week. Like Rachel's really good at this for somebody who's only done it five times.

She's always been great from the time I've known her at public speaking. Yeah. And stuff like that. And just not ever being from the time I've known her at public speaking. Yeah. And stuff like that. And just not ever being over. Like, I've never seen her flustered. Yeah. Right. Very calm, under pressure. Yeah. I'm having her name some numbers. That'll get her five letters in a row.

Just any five letters that I don't know. Not going to happen today, guys. Yeah. Anyway, that's so Scott drinks some coffee. Yep. A couple other quick Vegas things. We'll get to Justin. I don't think I talked about correctly if I'm wrong, the when we first got to the Airbnb, did I talk about that on the podcast? Not that I can recall. Okay. So we, we find a Vegas like, you know, you fly West, you make up all this time. It's like 7am and we'd love to like relax or set our stuff down the Airbnb. Like, you fly west, you make up all this time. It's like 7 a.m. And we'd love to like relax or set our stuff down the Airbnb like, no, sorry, we're cleaning it.

Earliest you could check in is 4 p.m. So like, okay, no worries. And what time was this? We probably landed at 7 a.m. Oh, okay, sorry. Like wanting to ask if we, we get early check in? And so we just go to the pickleball tournament. So we're just out there in the sun all day,

hanging out, we're just getting sweaty. We're exhausted. We finally get back to the Airbnb at like four 30. We can't wait to just like take a nap shower and time. What are we, what do we see when we get there? It was just gross and dirty. It just like hadn't been cleaned. They were not cleaning it the whole time. We were not allowed to stay in the house. Like it looked like it had not been cleaned at all.

Like somebody else definitely stayed there. Yeah, I mean, they're like leftover beer was still there. Was the bed made? No. Yeah. It was like it was stuff in the beds. Yeah, it was like more hair than normal. Oh no.

Yeah, it was like, it feels like the previous people like took their hair and put it on the bed. Why is there this much hair in the bed? That almost ruins it for me. Like even if they clean it completely perfectly, it's like that, that bed is not my bed anymore. I'll sleep on the floor. You know what I mean? Like I know that hotel is like somebody probably was in there like two nights ago, if not last

night, but like it's completely new to me. But if I knew that, if I saw the bed before, no way. It's like when they bust your table, it's like, I know there was a family here, a bunch of little kids. Someone's mouth is on this spoon recently. I'm always thinking about the spoons. Anyway, so yeah, it was just like trash,

which is kind of a bummer. So we're like, I'll hit them up and try and let them know. But then I think- You just had to suck it up? Yeah, we just start doing laundry with their sheets. So like, I guess we'll just start washing it ourselves and whatnot. You did? We started to, it was like, well,

we can either wait for them to start doing the laundry or we can just do it. Yeah, and so? Took some action. We eventually got ahold of them and they were like, they did do a good job. I threatened the one-star review on them. I got a move in pretty quickly.

So it was like, while we went out to dinner, they were gonna come and clean the house. I was like, perfect. We go out to dinner. This going to come and clean the house. I was like, perfect. We go out to dinner. This is kind of a funny experience too. I didn't talk about this last week, but just kind of a weird kind of sports bar. We went because the Royals were playing that night

in MLB playoffs. And so right away, Scott asked the hostess like, and could we get the Royals game on? Hey, of course, not a problem. We sit down, we get drinks for you guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Could we get the Royals game on? Yeah, of course, no problem.

Come back with the drinks. You know, now it's like Isaac, your turn. Hey, would it be possible? Could we get the Royals game on? Yeah, okay, so I checked on that. Our manager who has the remote is in a meeting right now. It's like, wow, quite the like construct of power here. So only one guy gets the remote.

Wasn't it something like that? Like, I don't remember that specifically. It's like, okay, It's in his safe. There's no way to get to it. We just can't, we don't want to interrupt him and dig in his pocket. I don't remember specifically specifically hearing that, but I'm sure it was something like that. It was something like the manager, like our manager who runs the TVs. They just really couldn't do it. Is busy right now. Something like that. So I guess we'll wait till he's done. They finally, mandatory gets out of the meeting. Channels are starting to be changed.

Oh, hey, here we go. Here we go, it's happening. And it went from Thursday Night Football being the audio that we all hear to a different TV audio. I'm gonna give you one get, or I'll give you a million guesses of what comes on the TV next. Royals game you're probably thinking?

Yeah. What else? Univision. Univision. Univision. Yes, we had it. BET. It was.

CNN. The original Twister movie. Full volume. From the top. It was like they put in a DVD of Twister. We saw opening credits. It was amazing. It was just so loud.

It was like, Isaac, what'd you ask them for? I said Royals game. Da da da da da da da. Boom boom. Ba ba ba. for It's like what is happening there's Alex's FVB nope, that's It's like what is going on yeah, so just the the original twister movie just get Helen Hunt she was on there as a little girl I was getting invested. Yeah, I was like you guys haven't seen this for me. It's better than baseball This is actually a pretty important scene. This is her as a scared. I was getting invested. Yeah. I was like, you guys haven't seen this. For me, this is better than baseball. This is actually a pretty important scene. This is her as a kid.

I prefer this. Yeah. And it's just a, it's a tornado scene. It's just so loud. So intense. So loud. It is so funny. They just had it full volume.

Was there very, were there very many other people in the bar? No. Was it just like people are like, what is going on? It was pretty empty. I don't know if other people cared. Oh my God. That was kind of funny.

And then one last thing, I don't know if you remember this time in, but we're like halfway through the day. It was pretty empty. I don't know if other people cared. Oh my God. That was kind of funny. And then one last thing, I don't know if you remember this time, but we're like halfway through the day. It was a pretty just incompetent restaurant in a number of ways, but time and asked for shit. Can I get anything else for you guys? Time is like, can I get a refill on my root beer? Just walk away.

Just didn't answer him, didn't get him one. What? I think it was the guy that was like, just a strange vibe about this guy He like the only thing he ever did all night was only refill the waters Yeah, just one had the lady that was like our waitress But this guy would just kind of come by not say a word refill waters And then yeah, it was like he came by maybe he might like said like I don't need anything

I'm gonna talk to pepper dinner. Yeah, so yeah, I might have been something like that. Yeah, can I get a refill? Just turned and walked away. Wow. Amazing. It was a funny little restaurant. Yeah. So that's Vegas. So did you feel like, did you see Vegas? I guess you went to the concert. Yeah. Like Vegas, quote unquote. I think Zach and I might've like, uh, if I hadn't have been sick, we might've like walked around and like just seen a few things just like for fun, but I was just like, I I hadn't have been sick, we might've like walked around and like just seen a few things just like for fun. But I was just like, I want to get back and sleep. But I mean, like, yeah, we saw downtown drove through with like with the Uber and stuff. It was fun. Yeah. I don't know.

Was the concert on the strip? It's like a block off. I mean, basically right there. Yeah. It's like right behind New York, New York or across the street from MGM ground. I think it's right there basically Yeah, but yeah got to see it a little bit. I drove past the strip like on this trip in the daytime Yeah, did you feel like where you guys stayed was like a different place? Like did you feel you was just normal place? It was cool. I would do my mile runs at night. It was so hot and from our house. It's pretty cool I could see like the sphere I could see the whole strip It's kind of a fun view, but we were like eight or nine miles away. Okay. So it

was, it was far. Cool. But, um, yeah, so it was fun. I also didn't talk about just real quick that we just referred to them as the crazy rich Asians. I don't think I talked about that last week. I just ended up meeting these guys. It was like every time I would go to the restroom, I would come back with a new like networking like person I met and they were always Asian and they were always really rich and they were really generous and like invited us into their home. This guy had a private pickleball court. He was like, yeah, you got to come over. Maroon five was just here yesterday. Like what? How? What's the connection to room five? I don't know. He just, it just seems like this is a guy who's got a lot of money, knows a lot of people

and he wants us to come over. If we get trafficicked, so be it. Let's roll the dice. So be it. My dad's Liam Neeson. I'll be fine. You imagine Steve calling him up. Hey, listen. It's, it's, it's like, I don't know who you are. Let me pull off that, that monologue. I want to, I want to do it justice. But it was great. So I mean, I basically like no one else had even met this guy. I was like, Hey guys, I got this guy's phone number. We're going to go over there tomorrow to shoot a pickleball before it gets too hot. Everyone's like, cool. Who is it? I was like, Jeff, his name, Jeff went over. He was so, so generous and so, so nice. Yeah. It was fun. He was the man. Gosh, whatever website this

is, is like popping me around with ads back and forth. Hey, Hey, what's going on? That's what he say first. Hey, what's going on? I Don't know who you are. I Don't know what you want Looking for ransom. I can tell you I don't have money. All right What I do have Pretty particular set of skills now Obama Skills I've acquired over a long career in the food service industry Yes skills that make me I'm losing

Hey, what's going on skills that make me a nightmare for people like you? If you let my daughter well my son my idiot son in these crazy situations Let my son go now. That'll be the end of it. I won't look for you. I won't pursue you But if you don't I will look at you. I will find you I Will kill you All right, so call me back This is all no, it's all on an answer machine. Oh, all right, just call me back. Good luck Yeah Good luck speaking of Obama. I I saw you narrating a nature documentary.

That looked fun. Oh. Like an oceans thing. Do you have an Obama impression in your arsenal? No, I mean, This right there? Not really. This is-

My fellow Americans. I haven't even heard of that. Like it was kind of like- This is the macaroni penguin. And when you can see right here, it waddles, it runs, it does not fly. I don't know. Nature documentary, is that what is that?

Yeah. This is the Galapagos Islands. I don't know. Obama's hard, dude. I just know he does this thing with his hand. Yeah. Patagonia Mountains. The Swiss Alps, and Coachella Valley.

What do they all have in common? They're outside. Outdoors. They're outdoors. That's when Trump gets in there. No, no, no. This is incredible. No, no. The best things

are buildings. I have big buildings. Obama has no buildings. None of these built himself. Not out of gold. Many beautiful Mexican workers in there. I have incredible workers. I want to say hello to all of them right now. Ola Jose. Ola Manuel. Ola Josefina. She's a great secretary, best secretary. Dude, this is kind of interesting about Trump. The guy that I was in Maui, one of the guys I was in Maui with that I said was a chocolatier. High-end chocolatier in Fort Wayne, Indiana

called DeBrayon Chocolates. I like Fort Wayne. Yeah, nice place. From what I've heard. They, maybe, I don't know, I don't know, this is, I don't think this is like private information, uh, but they make chocolate for the Trumps sometimes. Oh, cool. And apparently they, they like, I don't know what the word is. There's a word for like gold bars, like the actual like bars of gold. You know what I'm

talking about? Like it kind of looks like a piece of butter, stick of butter kind of thing. Um, they make chocolates that look like gold bars. And apparently one time they sent him to Trump. This was before he was president, but they sent him to Trump and he called them and he's like, those are bronze. Those are, these are, these are bronze packaged. I only do gold. So don't send me any more bronze. Only gold. Apparently like everything in his house is gold or whatever. This is not gold enough for him. Not gold enough.

These gold bars. I think they literally have Trump on the top of them. Wow. Gold bars. I saw his big gold building in Vegas. Yeah? Oh yeah. His hotel there.

Trump Tower. Big gold building. Big gold building. I saw that gold. I saw a big gold building. A big round sphere. A lot of shiny lights. We saw Hans Zimmer in a shiny lights. Bright lights.

We saw Hans Zimmer in a big circle. Hans Zimmer, real cold. Loud music. Bright lights. It's like, what are you doing? Speak normal. Sea world or see the world? I see worlds.

Anyway. We're going to get to Justin. One last thing, time in, you need to defend yourself. A couple of weeks ago, I saw a comment. They said, time in, you've wasted my time by recommending that I watch fall guy. You have to defend yourself. I don't remember her name, but it was a woman. I remember I briefly, I vaguely remember saying it was a six or seven out of 10 movie.

So that's not, I don't know if that's necessarily me saying you gotta watch it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I just remember saying I remember saying I enjoyed it. It was fun. So good defense. I think that I that kind of backs me up like yeah It's like you didn't have to It wasn't like I was like you have to see like interstellar 10 out of 10 movie But let me see what you I'm sorry. You didn't like it. What is what is your letterboxed time and inch? At time and I just googled letterboxed time and inch and it did not come up Letterboxd.com slash time and inch you think that would get me there. Maybe It sure does a nice pick of you and the boys. Thank you. Let's see

I'm gonna be able to find this quickly. Oh, yeah Fall guy you ranked it. Is it a five stars? No. Where do I see these stars? I'll figure it out. Look for August 20th. I don't see where the rankings are though.

Go to diary maybe. Ooh, dear diary. I watched Fall Guy tonight. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay. Oh, I wish my sweet old assistant Anna could have seen it with me. Geez, timing. She was out with Zach, partying and dancing and who knows what. Well, it says three and a half stars. Yeah. Seven out of 10. There you go.

Okay. So when I said it says out of five and you said no. Oh, that was incorrect. Three and a half. That's seven out of 10 though. Did I say no? It's out of five. I thought you said that. But there's half stars, which makes it at 10. I like to think of it as out of 10. Three and a quarter. Fits my brain more.

So I'm gonna get like, yeah, whatever. Day of Diary. Okay, so that's a seven out of 10. Yeah. I thought it was fun. I think you might need to be more critical. I like Ryan Gosling. I think I like the idea of people being more critical

in their rankings of stuff. Okay, I should be like way more picky. Not now. You already, you already established your scale. From now on though. You're the L box. Yeah. Like give a restaurant a very kind three out of 10 if it's not that good. Like, like I'm not, I'm not trying to be a mean person, but I'm just like, it's a three out of 10. I'm, I'm not planning on going back there. A good spirited three out of 10. A one out of 10 is bad. You're not defaming them.

Yeah. Three out of 10 is like, we asked for the Royals game five times and they never gave it to us because the remote was in the movie. But at least they refilled our drinks some of the time. Yeah. I remember, I'm not proud of some of these conversations, but every guy has probably had them where you do it with girls and it's like, all right, what do you think about her? And I was always the guy, like no girl has ever been below an eight for me Oh, and other people were like you got to have someone who's like a five. I'm like, yeah, I don't know I can I

think Like people like it's like seems like a two but it's like five is technically just the most normal looking It's the middle of the bell curve. Sure. No. yeah. Yeah. No, that's not how I see it. Eight. That's like one of the lowest scores I've given. It's like Beth. I'm not into her. Beth is like every movie is a 10 out of 10. Yeah. Minimum was an eight and a half. I think. So yeah, I think, yeah, maybe, maybe moving forward. Let's just, let's just all collectively be more on like a five star should be like a huge deal huge deal exactly That's like whoa best movie all I've seen all year like is let's see five stars from time in Ratatouille

That's a hundred percent of five-star movie really Five stars meaning like it is one of the best it checks I don't okay so with my because there's no there's no ranking better than five stars meaning like it is one of the best movies of all time. It checks. I don't... Okay, so with my... Because there's no ranking better than five stars. With my past rankings and stuff, my perspective is like, if it checks all the boxes for me and it's like a really great movie and it's very well made, why not five star?

That doesn't make it one of the best of all time. Ratatouille, one of the best Pixar movies of all time. And I think it's a five star movie. It's really funny. It's like, it hits all it's a five star movie. It's really funny. It's like, it hits all the, I don't know. It's got like- No, it's fine. Just to be fair, you ranked Lord of the Rings

Return of the King as a four and a half star. Correct. So Ratatouille's better than Lord of the Rings Return of the King. I would enjoy it more. Okay. I've never seen it. I would enjoy it a half star more.

Spider-Man Across the Spider-Verse five stars. Yes. Pride and Prejudse five stars. Yes. Pride and Prejudice five stars. Oh yeah. You would, you would. Never seen it. It's a great movie. These are great.

It's fun. I'm going to look at this more for you. Yeah, you should make an account. I watched one of those Spider-Verse movies one time, not knowing what I was getting myself into. I think I watched it with someone else. And I did not like it. That's a bummer.

I don't know if it was the same as five-star Spider-Verse. How many Spider-V spider verses have they done? They've done two. There was the first one into the spider verse. Second one, I crossed the spider verse. Okay. Can you guess the name of the next one? Just like at the end of the spider verse.

It's beyond the spinoff. The caboose of the spider verse. Yeah. Coming out someday. Okay. So you did not like it. What would you rank that now that we've had this conversation and now that we need to have trust in each other that we're not mean spirited people based on our rankings of things that the Spider-Verse will never see our rankings.

I'm tempted to be mean-spirited towards you because of this, but I'm not going to be because it's subjective. From what I remember of, I'm going to guess into the Spider-Verse. I went in expecting to see, I don't know, Andrew Garfield, Tobey Maguire, some upside down kisses. I haven't seen any of the movies, but this is what I've heard happens. There's an upside down kiss in it. They reference it.

And then I saw like animated comics, like kind of like, how would you describe, is it cartoons, Brad, you would call them? I saw cartoons. It was like 2D like cartoons though. It's really good. I think it's like very impressive style. One star. One star. One star. Which is two out of 10. It's two good. I think it's like very impressive style.

One star. One star. Which is two out of 10. It's two out of 10. Two out of 10. Two, I gave it two. Can you do half stars? Or like one half star only?

Yeah, it's one out of 10. Well, on letterbox. You can do a one half star. But like. I'll do a one out of 10. You can't do zero stars though. You know what movie I would give a half-star, too This was back when the office was really big John Krasinski got his first movie role. That was so I was like sweet

George Clooney John Krasinski is called leatherheads terrible Terrible terrible half-star is there I wish I could give less are there few there There's another movie I'm thinking of where it's like it proved to me that it's not just about the actors Like you have a good script like John Krasinski, good actor, fun actor, George Clooney, great actor in that movie was so bad. I saw the movie and maybe if I watched it again now as an adult, I would be better. But the movie envy, you ever heard of that? No, it's a, it's about nonverbal kids. It's Jack Black and Envy. Oh, it's Jack Black and Ben Stiller.

So it's like, oh great. This sounds hilarious. They make me laugh. Yes. And maybe it wasn't a very funny movie and I was just expecting to be funny, but I just remember the time being like, this is the worst movie I've ever seen.

Why are these two people in this movie? I'm mad for their like management, their agents. I bet Rotten Tomatoes loves it. Let's see. Rotten Tomatoes. Oh, nevermind. 8% on Rotten eight percent on right oh my gosh that's real big in a George Clooney I've seen one George Clooney movie and it's my favorite of all time fantastic Mr. Fox oh you would hate it probably yeah is it

Wes Anderson yes but it's stop-motion it's like oh it's brilliant I've heard great things yeah I've never seen Wes Anderson stuff. That's I've seen like that and his other his only other like animated one. He has a lot of like pretty inappropriate movies, I think, from what I've heard. Let me tell you. Yeah, I don't from what I've heard. I'm not endorsing or bricked. I'll tell you one thing we shouldn't see the sound of hope.

The story of possum trot. Hey, I rated two and a half perfectly in the middle. The story of possum trot. Hey, I rated two and a half perfectly in the middle. The story of possum trot. Where you find these movies. No, it's a, it's like a, um, I think like maybe angel studios. I don't know. It was a fine movie. Okay. I'll tell you another movie that we should never see. Jake, Ford versus Ferrari. Oh yeah. Wouldn't recommend two stars. I have a feeling that like people are going to not like that. I don't didn't, I don't know. I fell asleep also Christian Bale was like annoying. I don't know. Hey, we're we're it's a trust tree. Sorry. Was that mean spirited? Are you still on time? It's yeah, I'll tell you another one. We shouldn't see old dogs. Oh, don't lowest rated ever. It was just like, so Graydon came over. He was like, okay, we've got to find a good movie to watch. Graydon just has an awful movie taste. Like, well, he loves movies that are good, but he also loves movies that are bad. He's like Jeff. He's like, he's

like, he's like, I promise you, this movie is so funny. I love this movie. And it's like, it's his first one. It's Robin Williams in it. And so I was like, yep, exactly. Same thing. Got to be fine. It's like John Travolta and Robin Williams. Those guys can be funny in any dumbest movie I've ever seen. Okay. Did you, I do remember laughing a few times though. So that's why there's three out of 10. Really? Okay. Here we go. From the mountains to the prairies with the cows and the chickens. GoodRanchers.com. Promo code GRKC. One more time, time.

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What'd you think of it? I think you're like, how'd you like it? No, I said to me. What do you think of memento first? Oh great five stars for but Maybe a rewatch. Hey, but I respect that four stars. Thank you. Spectrum because that's eight. I did that's like it was a great Score. I was like, you know, you have to you have to like but the experience wasn't quite a ten out of ten experience for me That's great. You're telling me you're telling me Paddington 2 was also a four-star movie Yeah, I mean, yeah Paddington 2 is like one of the highest on rotten tomatoes. I think ever.

From what I've heard this random sequel as Hugh Grant in it. He's funny. It's great. Spirit stallion of the simmer on four stars. Yeah. Soundtrack. Classic soundtrack. I love the we got we got Tommy boy.

This is in order. Tommy boy Shawshank Redemption, whiplash. And then time is like, I need a break. I need to call my mom. Spirit, Stalingrad, the Lego movie. Ooh yeah, got back to home base there. Palate cleanser. Came back from Vegas, yeah. Palate cleanser.

Kicking and screaming. That's so funny. Three stars kicking and screaming. That's probably fair. I liked it. Yeah, it's like a good comedy, but there's not a lot of depth to it. Not know, depth to it. Not too much substance to it. Yeah, it was great though.

But yeah, somehow we just got, someone quoted like, say bye to Juice Box Boy, and then we're like, man, that's such a funny movie, and we all started quoting it, and they're like, time it in a deck. We're gonna make you watch it tonight. And so we all watched Kiki screaming together. It was a nice memory.

I impressed myself with staying awake the entire time. Yeah. So I got to see the whole thing. Yeah, time it in a deck. Yeah, so first of all, they stayed in their car the night before the tramp. We talked about that last week and then we have a three hour direct flight to Vegas. So it's like, I'm, this is a moment I got to catch up on sleep. We got a long weekend in the sun. They just slept in a car instead of sleeping time and decides to watch

a movie that he saw a week ago, but Zach hasn't seen it. So he's got to watch it again. I saw a lot, like a while before, but it was true. It was like in hindsight I was like, why didn't I just sleep? How'd you guys watch it together? Just like on a laptop. We uh, laptop laptop the laptop. We just like connected both of our sets of air pods. Oh Yes, right. You can do that. No. Yeah It's tough to figure out though called prisoners. Oh good movie. You watch that You can do that now. Yeah. Well, it's tough to figure out, though. Called prisoners. Oh, good movie. You watch that in covid time. And yeah, good memory. Yeah. So good.

Anyway, so I was giving them a hard time the whole trip. Like no wonder time and got sick. No matter. Zach doesn't feel well. He's had 19 energy drinks and he hasn't slept the whole time. Yeah. Zach is more of like he should have been the one that was really sick. Yeah. Yeah. The rainstorms. Anyway, yeah. They stayed awake for kicking and screaming. It's fun memory. Yeah. That's a great time. Scott dying laughing probably the whole time. Or just like has that little giggle. You know, Scott, there was a guy in Maui shout

Tyler Tong. I talked about last week. Greatest laugh. Great laugh. Yeah. Yeah. To the point where somebody was like, I didn't know about this laugh of yours when I first met you. But oh, yeah. Just said he would he would add so much to the podcast, just bringing him in here and just give him a microphone in the corner. Just laugh, man. His own mic. So he was also real big into conspiracy theories, which I don't dabble in. I don't know. People are kind of fun.

They're so fun because everything I love to hear about what they believe in. Yeah. So like, well, right, if they know how to talk about it, then it's interesting. I couldn't regurgitate a thing he said. Like I was trying to talk to Catherine about a few of them. And I remember any like topics. Federal Reserve was one of them. Oh, I like that money. Yeah. From what I the one thing I understand from it is that it's not run by the government.

Everyone I thought it was a government thing. It's it's like private, privately owned from the JP Morgan, maybe a Rockefellers or deep state. Yes, I'm Blackstone. Yeah, we heard that word a lot. No, I'm just saying all the buzzwords. There's lots like spiritual warfare, black rock. That's what I'm going to say. Black rock.

You know, have you heard the word Nephilim? It's like a very big spiritual warfare. Like, is that like that stuff? I can more get behind the Egyptian God or something. No, it's like, it's like early, like hybrid people kind of like mentioned the bias. It's in the Bible. It's fascinating stuff.

It's like, yeah, but it felt like so many things that were like, Hey, what do you think about this? It's like, well, the Nephilim and I'm like, everything, you know, like it's all Nephilim, like Denver airports crazy. Well, you know, I'm like, okay. Before you slender man. Now, honestly, also TJ was telling me about this one where have you seen all these people that think Beyonce and their acceptance speeches?

Oh, I've heard about this. If you don't, you're like in trouble. Yeah. What the heck? I don't know. Like she's got some like supreme reign over Hollywood or something because of the Nephilim that's gotta be the people I mean people kept bringing up Nephilim here and there I will say like having Trump assassination having a full of

my okay calm down having delved like a little bit in the past and like the world like the blurry creatures podcast and stuff just for fun like a lot of stuff it has to do with the Nephilim Yeah, I know that's these like half-asian people. Yeah, I don't know pretty crazy. I don't think I'm into like illuminati blackmail Nephilim stuff, but I'm like how do we build the pyramids? Let's hear all the theories dinosaurs. Let's get after it Probably aliens or something. That's the I like those conspiracy theories something something. I don't even know if I'm sorry sorry No, I'm saying I'm sorry. Sorry. No, no, I'm serious I'm saying I'm way more like inclined to

Like at least like hear someone out about something if it's like they can talk about like well This is like biblical and like spiritually related. I'm like, okay sure I can I can listen if it's in the if it's yeah But it's like coordinated if it's like God the Democrats are I'm like, I'm sure because In the land. I am so bad at regurgitating things. So I apologize in advance for how halfhearted I'm going to present this, but something,

so I had dinner with Johnny Youssef and his wife. Johnny grew up in Egypt until I think eighth grade, ninth grade, something like that. And then moved to United States. Enough to get a pretty good accent. Enough to get a pretty good accent. Enough to get a pretty good accent. Good accent. Yeah.

Great accent. Yeah. Um, and, uh, he told me something along the line and I think this is just facts. I don't even think this is like, I think it's just kind of whatever. I think it was, there was, there was this library back in the day. I think it was in Egypt that was like, had every, like all these amazing facts, all these amazing findings from all these amazing findings from all these scientists, all this stuff, um, including, I think the library included how

they built the pyramids. Um, like it was, it was basically like the internet of that back in that day. It was like, if I need to know something, I will go to this library because it has all these amazing findings, all these amazing, you know, the great library of Alexandria. It was Alexandria. Yes. And he said that Islam essentially burned down this library or burned all the things in this library. Mohammed something like that.

And basically he's like, he's like, if we did all of that, if we would have had, if we would have had that library still our society our technology whatever would be a hundred years ahead or whatever cool like something crazy like that I believe it that's fun so fire destroys things fire destroys things that's a fact that holds up that's a fact it's on opinion five stars five star fact anyway I thought that was pretty, I don't know. Yeah, it sounds like, are you seeing that it burned down or something?

Line? Give me something! The destruction of the library is viewed not just as a tragic loss of knowledge, but as a deliberate act to suppress information. Interesting. So it was destroyed at least, yes. Okay, so I'm on the right track.

So anyway, stuff that I didn't know about stuff. They're not talking about very often, but it's like, yeah, they seem like they were way ahead and then burned it all down. So we could have figured out how the pyramids were built. Yeah. Also just like whatever is it the Coliseum? I mean, yeah, whatever all these super, super ancient buildings that somehow the cement mixture yeah, whatever all these super super ancient buildings that somehow the

cement mixture glue whatever they use to put them together is like so Indestructively strong pretty wild. How did they do amazing? Yeah, like what what was their math versus? How do we not figure that out now? Yeah, how stupid are we? It's the Nephilim yeah, maybe yep, so Well, it's same well, I think it's pretty good transition into dumb football questions Absolutely, let's get some dumb football questions with just sit in how many teas are in his name That's it Alright, we're here once again with our man,

Justin Kershaw in the house. Chiefs fan, extraordinary. Grass lover. Grass lover of Kansas. He walked, he flew in here, he's like, look at that grass. You know the city grass, baby. Like brownish green.

Yeah, exactly, that October grass in Kansas, there's nothing like it. But yeah, we do this segment, have we only done it once? Maybe we've done it twice. We do it all the time. We do it, yeah, there's nothing like it. But yeah, we do this segment. Have we only done it once? Maybe we've done it twice. We do it all the time. We do it. Yeah, it's a recurring segment now called No Dumb Questions.

And specifically for you, you played football. You played at Michigan State. Yeah. And then went from there to have a little training camp stint with the Panthers with Julius Peppers. He was there, man. Funny story. We're both light skinned. He was there, man. Funny story. We're both light skinned.

He's bigger than me, and I was practicing. He didn't show up. He's bigger than you. He's huge, yeah. Yeah. Better athlete, too. Worth a lot more money. Yeah.

And he said, right now, but he said, we were where the Panthers facility's at, the fans can kind of look in, and somebody saw me. They're like, Julius, let's have a good year this year, man They said it to me and I was like, that's right. Let's go Let's go boys, of course I was Julius Peppers for a few minutes. That's awesome. And what position were you in Michigan State? I tell all the well, I was gonna say I used to tell the girls I put quarterback

But I came in as a DN getting a lot of weight moved a defensive tackle. Did you really? Yeah, how much more? How much heavier were you then compared to now about 20 pounds lighter? Yes, I'm 260 260 now. Yeah, and I was the most I got up to was 280 Wow. Yeah Huh? I would have thought you'd be even bigger to be a yeah I was a smaller defensive tackle speed, but that's why I played the end. We really didn't have anybody else to play the tackle. We got new coaching staff.

So they'd put me there. And you were there with Kirk Cousins? Yes, I was. What is your, what was your relationship like with Kirk then and what is it like now? I'm going to show you. You about to face time. Oh, that's based, that'd be insane.

I'll say this Kirk cousins in his family If I've done anything right as a father or a leader It's because I look at my dad and how I brought up was brought up and then Kirk cousins dad and his family They were true believers in those incredible people and I saw Kirk every year. They brought in a new guy to change his position. In college? In college, yeah. Because I mean, recruiting, you get

they take somebody out, bring somebody in every year to take your spot. And Kirk fought really hard. He was an afterthought as a recruit. But a crazy Kirk cousin story. And I know this won't make national news, but I got to share this. And this shows you the type of guy Kirk is. So hadn't talked to him for a while. Um, guys

full of integrity, like just a normal guy that works his butt off. Yeah. And, uh, like what you saw in that quarterback documentary was well portrayed. You feel like a hundred percent. I didn't watch the whole thing, but yes, Kirk is, first of all, I'll say his family, they are true Christians, like true followers of Christ. His dad has a saying like, you make a good decision, something good don't happen, you make a bad decision, something bad don't happen. My kids repeat that, and that's all from Kirk Cousins' dad.

Okay, like there was this excellence, hospitality, I mean, it was amazing. Warm cider when you walk in the house. So, but I was, this was almost three years ago, I was in a bad mood because my business was slow and I was grumpy and my wife was like, Justin, come upstairs. I'm like, what do you want woman? And she's like, just come upstairs grumpy.

I'm like, okay, so I come upstairs, I was like, what? She was like, it's a Christmas card here. And I'm like, thanks. She was like, look who's from? I'm like, it's from Kirk. He sends one every year, his parents do. She's like, who's from I'm like it's from Kirk. He sends one every year his parents do She's like open it so She writes in this card. He's like hey Justin. Thank you, and then look what he puts in the car. Oh my gosh

What is this whoa just to be nice just for fun to be fun and my whole point my whole point That's pretty fun. It's pretty fun. So then I call my other friends in the league. I'm like I got your Christmas card But no, but that is, Kirk Cousins is a person of integrity, but he has the resiliency of Andy DeFrain from Shawshank Redemption. He just keeps going back at it, back at it. He's about excellence. Nobody is going to prepare better than him. Nobody is a better intentional leader than Kirk.

And I feel one of the greatest blessings of my life is that I got to be involved with Kirk Cushing. Yeah, that's cool. I've learned so much from him. I feel like I've been around greatness, and that's Kirk. And I'm sure he has that impact. Can I tell the audience what you just showed us? Just a...

Yeah, you can tell them. It was just a generous gift, we'll say that. Generous gift without, did he just send, as a generous gift. We'll say that generous gift without the, he just sent as a Christmas. Sure. Do you think he said that to every single person on his Christmas card list? Just to be nice. If it was Kirk, I wouldn't be surprised. I really, I know. I don't know. I don't know.

It was, it was shocking. It brought me to tears. Wow. And I just can't say enough good about the cousin's family because his dad was there for me when I went through a lot of, when I went through some difficult, confusing times as a 20 something year old. So just great people. I love the Kirk.

So you were like, yeah, you were like really friends with him. Like what, how did you, how do you connect with a quarterback when you're, I mean, I don't know. Like you're on the defensive side. Yeah. Or were you like, like, did you become friends over the years or was it like, oh, we were friends from? So we only played two years together. like you're on the defensive side. Yeah. Did you become friends over the years or was it like, oh, we were friends from?

So we only played two years together. No, we only played two years together. And it was just, I knew Kirk coming in, was a Christian. And something like pulled on me like, hey, you need to help this guy out. We came there because Kirk is from Holland, Michigan. So when he got to Michigan State, that locker room was probably like a rap video to him.

Like, what in the world is going on? Yeah, Holland's like super conservative. Super conservative, beautiful place, West Michigan is. Beautiful place. And Kirk came in and if I was able to help Kirk out, it was, I'm telling you, man, it was the Holy Spirit. And I just loved the guy. Like he's a, I admired him, what he was going through

and the way he presented himself and the way his family was, we just became friends. That's so cool. Yeah. That's cool. Can we ask you some football questions? Of course. Experience.

I love football. The NFL, a little division one. Okay, let's start with. So we usually start, I have a dumb question. And you respond, no, let's have Justin. Yeah, we respond with, hey, there's no such I have a dumb question. And you respond, no, let's have Justin. Yeah, we respond with, hey, there's no such thing as a dumb question. I do have a dumb question.

No, hey, there's no such thing as dumb question. I feel better about myself. Timon, did you find that clip of Steve Bono? I'm going to. Thank you. At some point. Yeah, because that's art. That is art.

It wasn't in Kansas City when it happened, but it was art. Okay, it'll be on the episode. The grass was fine, but it wasn't Kansas City grass. That's art. That is art. It wasn't in Kansas City when it happened, but it was art. Okay, it'll be on the episode. The grass was fine, but it wasn't Kansas City grass. That's right. Okay, I don't know if they're all dumb. I have a dumb question. There's no dumb question.

So first of all, were you on special teams? Yes. Okay. Nice, nice question. I have a dumb question. No, follow up. Is blocking a kick, is it a little scary? Like, oh, I got through.

I'm about, this guy's about to launch a football in my face. No, I never thought it was scary. Really? The difference between you and me, or us. Well, no, but I could see why it is. What was scary for me is that if you, I actually blocked a field goal against at the horseshoe in Columbus, Ohio.

And I remember when I, and it's my hometown. And I remember blocking it and that never crossed my mind. The only thing that crossed my mind is I better hurry up and try to get there, but never. Never like, oh, my neck's exposed. You were never like, what if it goes into my tummy? Take me out. Now it will be if I get a chance to pick a kick.

I saw guys are just like diving at the ball. Like pretty much like hopefully my face blocks this kick. But you know what? It's funny and a great observation by Jake because they do teach a technique where you're not putting your face in. You're kind of going in. Really?

What do you think about the idea? We've talked about this on the podcast before. Hey, I have a dumb question. You don't have this on the podcast. Okay, thank you. Hiring, we'll call him a Yanis Antetokounmpo type guy who can just jump really high to either block, only like a kick blocking specialist,

either on special teams, like on the line, or just put him back there, you know, by the field goal for like the short, like maybe he's gonna be a little bit short on the field goal. He can just jump up and swat it. Just the block kicks? Yeah, he's back there. I mean, that's his main thing. It's like, it's very certain scenarios. You have to be a little bit short on the field goal. He can just jump up and swat it just the block kicks Yeah, I mean that's his main thing. It's like it's very certain scenarios You have to use a Ross respond this but it's a 64 yard field goal

This kicker might have enough distance and I come down to one yard So you put Yanis at the goal line just to jump up and tip it and he could also be like, you know On a on a 60 or 55 yarder. That's got to go a little bit more direct He could be right there at the line just jumping up. I mean, because I don't know how high they go. That's really, I think that's really good thinking. But it'll never work with the current NFL salary cap. But to let you guys know you're thinking the right way,

when I was playing in college, there was a kid from Russia that came in who was, I think he was seven foot six. This is what we need. Yes. This is great. No joke. And he came in who was, I think he was seven foot six. This is what we need. Yeah, no joke. And he came in and the coach was like, they got this kid from Russia come on in, that's gonna take care of your guys.

But it's like, they play football in Russia. So this guy comes in and I saw him from the other end of the thing because the ground was shaking. And I'm like, you could just put him over the center and have him stand there. But it didn't work for him. I don't think the guy could even move.

Yeah. That's the thing. You've got to get the right freak athlete. The right one. But maybe somebody that's not good at basketball, but a freak athlete. Somebody that could jump out the gym. Actually, that happened with the Browns a couple weeks ago.

The guy who is a freak athlete, we're saying freak athlete a lot, he jumped and he blocked. This guy could play by. He played at Texas A&M. I can't remember his name. weeks ago the guy who is a free gathlete we're saying free gathlete oh yeah he jumped and he blocked this guy could play by he played at Texas A&M I can't remember his name Tymon yeah can you look him up for me I'm sorry um Texas A&M A&M Browns defensive end okay blocked kick and once you see him you'll be like yeah this okay so good idea, though. Miles Garrett? Miles Garrett. Oh, gosh.

Yeah. Yeah. Free gathlete. Yeah. He did that. He is a freak. Yeah. Yeah.

I thought you were trying to pull some obscure special teams for the Browns. No, I try to forget guys who are better athletes than me. I try to forget their names. OK, so who was the guy? Like, first, two questions. Who's the best player that you ever played against? You were like, I know that guy's going to be an animal and

who was the guy or maybe he already was an animal obviously, but like, I know he's going to be NFL caliber good. And who was a guy that's like, I've never heard of this guy. He's from maybe from my home town. May I play with him in eighth grade? Maybe whatever. And what was like that? He was amazing though. Wow, that is a great I know those are those are tough on the spot. No, it's okay. Obviously you play big ten though I mean you played some real do yeah like so there's a guy named Javon Ringer who you knew when he was in high school Like this guy's gonna play in the NFL. Yeah, and that was it There's the biggest athletic freak I've ever been in my life is a guy that you've nobody's heard of

Antonio jeremiah, okay two first names from columbus And he was six six 380 oh and the best dancer i've ever seen He looked like a grizzly bear like he probably would have to turn sideways to come in there But he was a really good athlete. Um The best dancer you've ever seen he was incredible. Yeah after it. Yeah, he just have to turn sideways to come in there, but he was a really good athlete It was incredible after it yeah, he just loved to dance. It's like all right, like we're done with that. Yeah play football But I would say Javon Ringer he played in the NFL for a long time was the best athlete and Then the there's a kid that I went to high school with this is no joke. His name was Mel Roy

He came from New York and this shows you how important leadership is And then there was a kid that I went to high school with, this is no joke, his name was Mel Roy. He came from New York. And this shows you how important leadership is. I was watching him play basketball in high school, and this kid, I'm like, did anybody just see Mel jump? Like what, he could put his hand on the back of the backboard, and they're like, yeah, but he sucks at basketball. I'm like, somebody teach him how to play.

Figure it out. But he was one of the best athletes I've ever seen. Yeah. He's doing well for himself now, so. Wow, did he end up becoming an athlete? No, he went to the military. Okay. Yeah, he went to the military.

Well, he could still use that somehow. Yeah, he did. Jump. Jumping over stuff. Jump over tanks. Yeah, storming stuff, storming beaches. Yeah, throw grenades. Yeah.

How much does, especially if a defense, a tackle defense, how much does the offense running no huddle suck? A lot. Yeah? Yeah, a lot. I can remember my senior year, we were playing Georgia, who was ranked number one in the country

at the beginning of the year. We had the preparers who were gonna run the ball. We're in Florida, coming from Michigan, it's cold, hot in Florida, and all of a sudden they get the idea to run no huddle and it's like, what are they doing? So it's no good, man. We don't like it.

Obviously you can't substitute no huddle, but I do have a question, when it comes to substitutions, how are those done as efficiently as they are? Because as a viewer, when I watch football, it's like the offense, they just send in two tight ends. Is the coach having to look and be like, all right, this is kind of the set they have, call a name, you send your subs in?

There's no dumb questions, that's a great question. So yeah, there's typical personnel, which indicates the number of tight ends and running backs. So they'll say 21 personnel go in for this certain play. Gotcha. Or yeah, 11 personnel go in, whatever it may be. And so if it's 11 personnel, that means there will be three wide receivers, I think.

So yeah, that's practiced a lot. And they're just very efficient. And it gets worked on and practiced a lot. All the defensive players just have to be ready right next to the coach. You're just ready to go. And that coach also has to be very aware of the numbers on the other team and what position they play.

Yeah, so usually the offense will bring their personnel and then the defense will say, oh, they're in. They react to it. They'll put in who they need to. Or if they have three tight ends or goal line, they'll switch it out. But it's really a fine-tune machine that gets worked on. But I mean, you can tell if a team's

undisciplined by how there's seven people in or out. Yeah, even when we go to Chiefs games, for whatever reason, I always pay attention to that. I'm like, man, the defense is reacting in a half second to the substitutions they need to. It's very impressive. Yeah, it is. It's worked on a lot.

Yeah. Yeah, it is fun to watch. And interesting to like, how quickly, what are the defense's play calls? And like, yeah, what are they, how do they know? I don't know. Footballs are so complicated. When guys go in motion or whenever this XYZ happens and

defense is like, we can't, we can't audible now. Can you, or can you do audible? Yeah. As a defense? Yeah. Yeah, you can. So it's, um, it just feels like that'd be really hard to hear. And I don't know. So we always said, this helped me in marriage, is over communicate. And so like the coaches tell you, over communicate with each other. So for example, if the tight end motions out or something, you can say, I'm calling off this blitz, it's inaudible.

But then everybody's reading everything and it's a chess match where the defense is responding to the offense and the offense is responding to the defense. Like if you look, whenever a quarterback gets up to the first line, he's identifying who the middle linebacker is. So everything is based off of who that middle guy is. All right, no dumb questions.

Oh, I have a dumb question. I have a dumb question. No, this is no dumb question. You play Big Ten football, yeah, historic, massive, huge venues, stadiums you play in. Youoric massive, you know, huge venues, same as you play in. Um, you mentioned horseshoe, big house, all these like massive places. Can you truly, when you're playing, can you hear anything? Like, can you hear the crowd going crazy during the play? Yeah. I really will right before the play. Then when the play happens,

it goes silent. Yeah. But I remember, uh, so Spartan Stadium is the best place to play go green That's right, and but the loudest stadium that I was in was actually Notre Dame. Okay, it was like super loud I think they scored their first offensive touchdown and there's the third game of the year when they play So everybody was like we score And we're like we better not lose. Yeah It's like everybody was like we score and we're like we better not lose. Yeah But yeah, it gets really really loud and it's good if it's your home crowd and you're on defense But it can really mess up an offense. Yeah You talk about communication, right?

because I'm obviously like I understand like hearing play calls and stuff, but I was always curious like If you have the like if a wide receiver has the ball, he's run down the field towards a touchdown Can he hear anything or is it just like, you know the wind in the helmet of just go crazy? I think at the time he's he's in the zone probably You know because because I'm fat I was usually not running touchdown It was a Yeah, if you get a sack you hear the crowd fires you up and you feed off of it That's so fun as a d lineman. What is the hardest penalty for you to avoid committing? It was, yeah, if you get a sack, you hear the crowd. It fires you up and you feed off of it.

That's so fun. As a D lineman, what is the hardest penalty for you to avoid committing? Offsides. Just jumping. Just not looking at the ball. Right, because you're supposed to not hear the cadence. Like don't listen to what the quarterback's saying.

Did you practice? Did you guys have a spray painted green ball? Yeah, we did. Yeah, we had a ball that they would pull. A ball on a stick. My. Yeah, we did. Yeah, we had a ball that they would pull. Yeah. A ball on a stick. Yeah. My actual coach, Coach Gill in college claimed that he,

no, he knew the guy that invented that. And that guy was like, made a fortune off of this ball. That's a great, like, maybe he did, but it's just such a funny, like, yeah, I know. Like your uncle claims that he knew the guy that invented the fast break in basketball. It was my uncle's dad. My uncle's dad invented the fast break in basketball. It was my uncle's dad. My uncle's dad. Oh, he did the fast break. Yeah. He claims.

Wow. That's like inventing the like bread. Like jump shot. Yeah. I have a friend. I have a friend who claims her uncle invented wakeboarding and it's like, I don't, I don't know. Maybe you did. I don't know. No one knows who invented the ball and the stick. So yeah, I'm going to tell you. He was coach Gillum's friend. Yeah, it's a funny story about Coach Gill. He said, he was like, you know, guys, one day I was coaching in Carolina, ironically. And he said, they tell me that I have to host this guy around named Calvin Brodus.

And he was really into film. And like, you know, we're watching film. And he's asked me questions. I'm like, yeah, Calvin, that's how you do this, Calvin. That's how you do this, Calvin. That's how you do this, Calvin. He's like, then I leave and they tell me it's some guy named Snoop Doggy Dog. I was gonna say Calvin Brode.

And we're like, no, we don't believe you. He's like, it happened. Yeah, so, but no, what people don't realize about D-line is you want to listen to the quarterback because you can get a jump on the ball. So jumping off sides, in my opinion, was the hardest thing not to commit. It feels like Mahomes, his first three years,

got at least twice a game would get somebody off sides. I've heard people say he's got to tone down his cadence, because he's got tackles he can't trust. They're going to jump off sides. Maybe. So he's got to tone down what his cadence used to be. Because it is a problem. Because they're already jumping off sides anyway. So yeah.

And they're on the office. Why couldn't the chiefs be this good in the nineties, man? So are you still like a chiefs guy though? Like, you know what, it would be hard to be like, I promise I was always a chiefs fan, you know? Cause you're in what, Brown's country or? Brown's and Bangles, yeah. That's a great question.

Fun time to be a Brown's fan. Next question. Fun time to be a Browns fan. All right. Whoo. Next question. You know what? Once I was playing, I was trying to get to the league, it was like, I'm not out. I'm going to play whoever I want to. And then Patrick Mahomes with his hair and athletic ability and beautiful wife.

Man, I hate that guy. It was just, I kind of lost touch with it. I'm not a fan anymore. I play, but I will say putting this hat on that my cousin got me for my birthday. Cause I was looking for my Steve Bono jersey. Couldn't find it, which I actually have one. And then a guy getting on the plane coming here

and he was like, Ken city chiefs. I'm like, yeah. Yeah, man. Yeah. Green grass, red helmets. That's us. So yeah, I, man. Yeah. Green grass, red helmets. That's us. So yeah, I'll always be a fan. So are you still just like a, are you a fan of football?

Like is it not, is it one of those things like, or sorry, Jake's wife, Rachel played D1 volleyball, still loves volleyball, but doesn't want to play it competitive, like is not very competitive. She claims she's all out of competitiveness because she played so much club, high school, college. You still go to a game and be like, I want to get on that field right now.

Like, absolutely. Yeah. Right now. Yeah. Well, yes. I'm still, I love football. You want to do the rest of the podcast in a three point stance? Or play? Or were you a four point stance guy?

What can we do to sneak in there? Maybe they'll let me play. What if we just, we're not sneaking. We'll be like, he's on the team. Look at him. He's got a head off. He's to these peppers Yeah, I would do want to play I miss it part of me feels like it's um, like I was gonna coach Yeah, if I had boys, I'd probably coach but my daughters I'm like you want to be the first female kicker and then I felt like no Where's my dress at? So yeah, I do miss it. I love playing I love watching it and it's good to see it from a distance because there's I love football But there's more to life. I've learned. Yeah. Okay. What about sorry Jake? I know I'm asking a lot But what about just in general sports for your kids?

like how do you view that after I mean, did you play a ton growing up? Like, I feel like you have to be either a freak athlete or play a ton or a little bit of both. Like, cause I'm struggling. I love sports growing up. I still want my kids to play, but I'm also like, I think I'm realizing there's more to, you know, the rhythm of our family than just like,

hey, let's just go and do this baseball tournament all weekend long. Dad and Bo will be away from the kids, the rest of the family for the whole weekend or whatever. Do you struggle with that at all? That is a great question, man. So I do. Because I told you my wife's a freak athlete.

I'm a decent athlete. Our kids would have athletic ability. And the urge for me is, let's turn them into the next Serena Williams. Or let's turn them into the next great athlete. Deshaun Watson. Turn them. Oh, I get it.

Turn on over. Wow. Or the next Pete Rose. There you go. That's a little better. Quality. Yeah, that's a little better. That's on the next Pete Rose. There you go. That's a little better. A little better. Yeah, that's a little better. That's on the game.

Yeah. Yeah. So, it's so funny. Come on, Browns fans, come on. Oh, yeah. Wow. Poor Deshawn, did you know he got booed? Yeah.

Well, they cheered when he went down to the Q&A center. They're like, yeah, finally. Dude, did you see Jameis Winston's post-game speech? It was, it was beautiful. It was unbelievable. Did you see this? Yeah, Jameis is amazing. It was so good. Cause I went into it not wanting to hear Jameis Winston

defend DeJon Watson. And by the end of it, I was like, I will do anything for Jameis Winston. Jameis, yeah, I agree. He's got some good... He's powerful, man. Yeah. Cool, that's, yeah, he is powerful.

I would, he seems like he has a good heart. He does. Yeah Yeah, since the crab since crab legs and guy was hungry. No, he cares about him. He's like serious when he talks cares about the crab legs or cares about He's serious about him in yes sports kids. Oh, yeah sports and kids so It's like do I turn them into the next to Sean Watson? Yeah. Million dollar athlete or do I, um, there's more to life than sports. And like, for example, Lebron James, I think Lebron James is an incredible athlete.

He's the best basketball player ever in my opinion. Okay. We can't argue. Yeah. I mean, he's arguing, but we won't argue it. There's no point in arguing and he's like scoring champion But at the end of the day, it's like he just played basketball It's just a game and I you look at like do I you know all these parents in my opinion or maybe just me It's like my kids getting the scholarship. I want my kids to be the best because it's a reflection of how good of a parent I am But does it really matter? No, I want them to be a good person. And if you could take some of these great athletes and say like, instead of having all these scandals, just one, like three or four championships instead

of eight or nine and be a good person. Sure. It's much better. But I will say the movie King Richard, Jeremy Pryor showed me this. Yeah. Yeah. I never watched it. Good? It's incredible. Yeah, I loved it. What it showed me though is that society will say it's wrong for a dad to force their vision on their family. That's what you're supposed to do. But you have the right vision. Have the right vision, but make it so beautiful that they can't resist it.

They're like, yes, dad, I'm gonna do what you tell me to do. But I think that goes in with the talent of how your family's made up and all that. And then also, too, it's, yeah, you have to, I think genetics is half the battle. Yeah. It's a lot of it.

It's a lot of it. It might be 70% for us. I don't know. Yeah, and then is it wise to spend two grand for a baseball lesson for a child when you can do so much more? So I think sports is just worshiped in our society and it's a fine line that you have to.

That's good. Yeah, that's where I'm kind of landing with the whole thing is like, I think I learned, like obviously Jake and I played into high school. That was our max, as we didn't play in college or anything. Well, I played women's basketball in college. You were on the scout team. I was on the practice squad team. Oh, that's good. That's a much needed deal. Yeah. Thank you.

And you heard about their SBU. They're really, you probably heard it. My senior year, we went 13 and 18, 13, 18. So, you know, it's a solid, solid 40% winning percentage there. But your point guards were really in shape. I had him working in practice. And that's D1? Division two in my AA conference. That's right. Okay. Yeah. Like them big time.

No, but the lessons that you learn in sports are just like, I I'm a better person. I'm convinced I've learned from obstacles and it doesn't have to be sports, but it's like especially team sports. You can learn so much. Oh, just the idea of like, you are not, I mean, you are important, but you are not the pinnacle of importance. Like if you do great and your team doesn't do anything, like you're not going to win. Like you have to work together on this stuff. Like, absolutely. You know, and so I want my kids to play sports, but I don't want it to be like, I don't think I'm, I'm going to, if I'm a betting man, I'm going to put a million dollars that my kids are not

going to be professional athletes. You know what I mean? You gotta believe, but I will say this. If you take the goal of sports to say, you're doing this so you can be a better person. That's it. Because you're playing, if you're 30 years old doing this, whoever you are, you're playing a child's game. It's gonna end one day.

It's like, how can you go into this and be a better person? I agree with that, but I heard somebody say before like, okay, the, the rationale is the longer you play sports, the better person you are. If that's the case, are the people in the NFL, the NBA, the MLB, are they the top cream of the crop society? I think there's other ways to develop character. Yeah. But I will say football to me, I just. I think there's other ways to develop character. But I will say football to me, I just, I think it's such a beautiful sport. I already was crying about the grass being brownish green

and the helmets. I think it's a beautiful game because of the lessons it teaches you, because of the strategy, because of the atmosphere. And I just, I really enjoy football, I love it. Football is special. Playing once a week and the amount of work you have to put in just for one game and it goes by so quick.

It's really different in most sports because of that. It's different. Play so infrequently. Yeah, like Brad was saying though, if you watch film, you have to break down every position. One play takes 45 minutes to break down every position. It's amazing. It's amazing.

I have a question. So I want you to take your Michigan stateness out of this question, because I know Michigan is a bit of a rival for you guys. But just what are your objective thoughts about the Michigan sign stealing guy? Who? Great.

Take rivalry out of it. What are your thoughts? Is it impossible to take the rivalry out of it? No, but I will. I think that it goes into what you want to believe. I think there are so many layers of lies and untruths and people even lying so much, they started to believe in themselves

where everybody is trying to get a strategic advantage. Where those things happen all the time. And you can watch it on the film, but if having an in-person there, he was there, is against the time. And you can watch it on the film, but if having an in-person there, he was there, is against the rules. There should be a hefty fine. Don't strip wins away from the kids and stuff like that. Michigan was the best team last year in the country.

They had seniors all over the place, they were well-coached. But they got caught. And I wonder how many phone calls went to whatever his name was. They don't tell on us. So everyone's looking to get a competitive advantage. I admire their tenacity, but you gotta chill out. I watched that documentary recently

and I will say the first hour of the documentary, I was like, I don't see a crime yet I think this guy is just like a little yeah psycho It's really driven and likes Michigan football a little too much Yeah, and then you get into like some of the rules he broke but the first hour of it I'm like, I bet this is just you know, a lot of teams have a guy like this probably. Yeah, a lot of teams have a guy and They were getting them for a cheap, you know, and he literally, he was obsessed. Which I love.

Yeah, he was. I know, I watched it, I was like, Jake, I bet you actually really respect and love. I really, like the things he did on the projector with all the signs and the studying he did, it's very, I mean, you could tell he's like ex-military, the way he went about it. It was really impressive taking Michigan out of it.

But the fact that he was wearing Central Michigan, he's able to get there. It's like, Hey, the proof is in the pudding. Let's not lose our integrity. And the thing about sports, I will say now is it's always been about the money a little bit, but I think football used to be shaping young men. Like we're not forced to go into military, but every kid was like, I'm playing football, you know? And now with college football, it's just become, you can transfer to every school and it's watered down the rivalries and all that. So no dumb questions. All right. What about, I got kind of a dumb question. Yeah. No, no. Okay. Thanks. Is there, is there, can you think of a fan insult that still sticks with you or that like?

Can you can you think of something that somebody said in the stands you go back to the sideline and like a front-row fan It's like dang. Oh, yeah that one that one. I remember that one Yeah, and can you repeat number 97 do you even play? Your jersey is completely white. Yeah Your jerseys really your jersey's really, your pants look really clean, 97. It's like, oh my God. That's, yeah, that got you.

You can't say anything bad. Oh, yeah, how often do you hear it and you're just like, right, I gotta just ignore this? Yeah, you just gotta ignore it. And I love it though, that's part of it. It's gotta be hard when you know you're bigger than, you don't even have to turn around like, I'm bigger than whoever's yelling at me.

I can't believe they do that. Yeah, I'm bigger than is, but it's something like gladiator like it's like you scream at each other Yeah, I'm not playing. Yeah No, not till later on I wish I would incorporate it more in my arsenal I noticed when I trash talk to my kids I do a lot better But no, I really really wasn't a good big trash talker. Yeah, but those are great questions. I mean, I've heard some pretty bad things

say that I couldn't repeat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who were, yeah, like fans wise, who were the nastiest, not may not nastiest, but like craziest place. You said maybe Notre Dame. Was Notre Dame like iconically like this feels like a different kind of venue? Yeah, Notre Dame, it felt like you were almost going

to a country club because when you pulled up, everybody says, welcome to Notre Dame. Welcome to, like they say it can sit and they do it to mess with you. Oh really, they do it to mess with you. Yeah, and then you see like, you know, celebrities and millionaires sitting in the stands and it's like, you remember Regis filming?

Oh yeah. I saw Regis, I was like, Hey Justin, welcome to Notre Dame. Oh my God, that was good man. Yeah, but people they're wearing green, that was really good. They're wearing gold jackets, welcome to Notre Dame, welcome to Notre Dame, and it's like Rudy was here.

Yeah, is that where they have, or maybe back, no, maybe it was Iowa. One of them, you played a book, they have like pink in the locker room. That's what I was gonna say, the worst fans. So you walk into Iowa. It's a pink like a what's the term mom? Okay? Yeah Big hue like What's the word? I don't know explain. It's like a soft color gay. Oh

color pink like mom It's like pastel. Oh, like a muted, muted, very muted pink. And we go in Iowa. Iowa was like, and everything's pink, like the toilet, the flusher, but at Purdue though, and their fans are drunk and they're like, we're never going to win. So we'll drink is that. So you got the toilet. Yeah. All right. You never look at this chair again. Pretend this is the toilet. And the walls are like this.

So you're sitting on the toilet. Oh, they could see your upper half? Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah, in the middle of the locker room. That's how it was. If you want to go use the bathroom. Yeah, you want to sit down.

You got to sit down. And I remember Jim Harbaugh, years later, complained about it. There's just a shame that. Right. Yeah, but you to sit down you got it you guys sit down and I remember Jim Harbaugh years later complained about like There's just a shame that right. Yeah, but you know interesting the psyche of like the Michigan State do anything to the visitors locker You know, uh No, so they Because of coach Antonia and the wins they've redone the locker rooms. Yeah, I was there our Home locker room was actually pretty, pretty, I would say, organic.

But we loved it because it was ours. Now it looks like the Taj Mahal. All of them do. Even the teams that are awful. They look so good, man. It's all about recruiting. I think you guys should have sent Draymond Green in the opposing locker room to scream at him.

Go berserk. I've been good, I like Draymond. Were you there at the same time as him? My first year. Yeah, we were there for one year together cool Yeah, he was a he's a beast. I love dream on the intensity I saw it last night opening night for Golden State Warriors. He got one technical already for yelling through refs So one game one tea. Yeah, he's not a good pace over him man. Yeah Do you even play? Oh, I'll play He's consistent. Yes. Boo woo, boo woo.

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Just base your respect on the Bim um I Maybe this is a dumb question no no questions Bottom of the pile fumble how nasty is to get down there good question dumb. Sorry not dumb question. Yeah, it was good Uh, it got pretty nasty. Yeah, like people was like squeezing your necks, like squeezing each other's necks or just trying to get the ball. I would have never thought of the neck.

Neck or like fingers or whatever. I was gonna say, yeah. But I think actually it's like, like trench warfare where I heard people were like, sometimes they're like, we don't wanna shoot you, we don't wanna shoot you, let's just chill. Like everybody's afraid. They're like, all right, let's just get Okay, they're like afraid to like break the first finger like He's probably trying to hurt me and I'm trying to hurt him. Let's just get out. Yeah, just go for the ball

Yeah, always wondered about that. I played at the high school level, but I was a coroner I wasn't in a lot of the bottom of the piles. Not a lot of fumbles coming out to me. Not a bunch of piles over there on the sideline. Yeah, so. What city? Stratford. Stratford.

Awesome, man. You know, you're still the Indians. No, it didn't. It's so funny. Our offensive defense could not have been more different. Our offensive coordinator was a former Arena League MVP. Extremely overqualified to be a 2A football offense quarter. I mean, we were running really impressive stuff,

made me want to be a football coach. I still have a dream to be a football coach someday because the X's nose were just amazing. On the defensive side, cover three, every play. That was it. Every play. Yep. Wow.

Maybe we'd mix it up on the goal line. Did you guys give up a lot of running yards? Yeah, we weren't great. I mean, some of it was a talent thing. Wow, some of it was a talent thing. I mean, some of it, you know, but that's what I like about football though. It's like the one sport where the coach

can have a massive impact. Like you're a baseball coach. If they got some guy who could throw 90 miles an hour, I mean, what can you coach to make the kids hit the ball? Basketball, they got a kid bigger than you, faster than you. What can you do? make the kids hit the ball? Basketball, they got a kid bigger than you, faster than you. What can you do? You try to double team, you know, there's, but football, the X's and O's can absolutely

win or lose a game. That's a great point, man. I'm so convinced that the Chiefs would still be in the playoffs without Patrick Mahomes. Because of Andy Reid. Because Andy Reid is that. He's a genius. Good, yeah.

He's a genius. We would have to have a decent quarterback. It wouldn't be like, just throw Tim Boyle back there, but like. Carson wins. Carson wins, I guarantee you. I don't want it to happen obviously, but I think we would make the playoffs with Carson. I don't think we've been a Superbowl, but Andy Reid is a great coach. You just remind me of something. There's a guy at one of the food shows we go to. He's an Andy Reid impersonator. He comes to Columbus. And when I saw him, I was like Coach Reid, what are you doing?

And he was like, Hey Justin, I looked you up. I'm like, you're not really him. But at first I'm like, this is, and I gave him the whole school. Like I was a huge kid. So I used to play. And he got you. Yeah. But this guy, what's the thing that you can sign up for, give people a birthday shot. Oh yeah. Cameo came out. This guy made like 70 grand doing cameo. Oh my lives in Kansas City That's cool. I've seen I have seen we have yeah, we just filled it. Yeah, I do Patrick most pretty well, too But uh, I'll be doing it. Can you do patch my house? Yeah I'll ask this next question to Patrick Holmes It's not as good if it's on command. So just that's good. All right Hey, just like I got kind of a

dumb question no no questions Patrick I'm better of a certain phrase this is can you do a phrase oh yeah what was it was one oh we're not done we're not done we're not done. I'm here. Kels do it. What's your best impression? I don't know. My homes is pretty good. Cause a lot of people try my homes. They do a terrible job at it.

I'm like, no, that's not, I do Trump. All right. Do my homes. All right. I see Trump. Do timing. All right. Ask the question in the Trump voice.

All right. This is a dumb question. I'm going to be honest. It's a stupid question. No dumb questions. Thank you. It's incredible. You said that The question is so I Just want to know I just want to know right now you have to tell me you have to be honest You have to tell me right now Does getting hit really hard really hurt that bad? Sometimes in the head. yeah, it does. Okay.

It does. Okay. It does. Yeah, but there's a part of playing football, talking about it makes me miss it so much. You kind of like it. Yeah. It's like this weird, yeah, I kind of get it

from high school, but okay, what about from high school to D1, like, was it noticeable? Like, holy cow, these guys are Speaker 2. The speed and there's, there's a more that there's more bigger hits, you know? Right. But I think the current NFL in college, they don't hit each other like they used to. Okay. Not even close. Yeah. I'm not playing, but I noticed the speed was different speed. The best teams were the fastest teams. He did things fast and you know, the hits are harder. And in my short stint, fast. And yeah, the hits are harder.

And in my short stint, very short stint in the NFL, I realized that everybody's good. It's like, whoa, I'm doing very well. These guys are doing very well too. It's just really, that's why you know if you're there, it's the cream of the crop. We've talked about my like one interaction basically with a football player is this guy,

Andy Studebaker who played for the chiefs. I think he was maybe a starting line linebacker. Maybe made this special, a long time special teams guy for the chiefs though. Yeah. Maybe a starter on the two and 14 chiefs, like a rough time for the chiefs. Not like didn't do anything crazy in the league. They went to 14. Yeah.

Twice the year that they got the first draft pick and drafted Eric Fisher. It was a little bit later on. Eric Fisher. So there, no, no. Uh, but, uh, yeah, not like a very mediocre, uh, NFL player. And we played pickup basketball with them a few times. And he's just such a freak. I like it, like immovably massively strong. And he's been out of the league when we played with them for like seven years where like, it was just like, you're just a different kind of animal. And you like, were just an average guy in the NFL, you know, like it's just crazy. So. Yeah, I had a buddy who played quarterback at SBU

where I went division two, doesn't get offered a scholarship back, works his butt off, ends up being able to walk on as the Mizzou quarterback. And I remember him telling me like, a lot of these guys at Mizzou aren't that much more athletic than the guys at SBU. Their work ethic is just insane though. Is that something you experienced as well?

Like the higher level you get, the more disciplined, the more like. That's a great question. So I mean, I saw from when we played Michigan State to UAB, there was a talent drop off. I'm like, man, UAB they're listed at like this guy's six, six, he's six, seven. Then you get up to line against him. I was like, this guyoff. Yeah, I'm like man you a be there listed at like this guy six six He's six seven then you get up to line against it was like this guy's like six one And they're not that fast. There's fabricate got like a couple fast guys

I think a lot of times the eye test coaches look at that like oh this guy's you know Six four looks good, but he's soft And then you got a kid who's six two, but it's tough and wants to work hard and he can perfect his craft. We talked about genetics, but I think you can really try to master something and be better than everybody if you put the work in. Now you might have a cat because of the gifts

God's given you, um it's my experience that like Alabama's better because they have better athletes. They just get the best, the best talent out there. Yeah that's great. No dumb questions. No it was a good question. I don't have anymore. What? Tapped out. I got plenty. Maybe this is a dumb question. No dumb questions. Let's say especially at the NFL, you just talked about a guy being soft. I feel like even at the NFL level, you still hear analysts say like, oh, I mean, the Packers defense,

I mean, that's just a hard-nosed defense or whatever. My theory is that at the NFL level, everyone's hard-nosed, right? I mean, they're all professional athletes playing for millions of dollars. Would you say that's true? Or you're like, no, some teams are just tougher than others. Some teams really do like playing teams are just tougher than others.

Some teams really do like playing in the cold more than others. Or do you say it's all just... That's a great question. I think you definitely have cultures like Pittsburgh Steelers. Yeah. Like from their ownership to their coaches and Mike Tomlin,

they're a tough nose team in the management and leadership. They're gonna find a tough nose coach, a tough, that's their brand. I think the same with Green Bay, like the community owns the team, and they're gonna do what it takes to get that, that's our culture, that's what we're living with. So you think that makes the middle linebacker

a tougher player? I think the coaching and then the type of person they're gonna try to find. If you look at Bill Belichickick and Nick Saban would say this He would break down like you know I need this type of player that runs this has this type of personality And I think even coaches say like like I would say this if you Google the top five This is amazing right here if you Google the top five NFL earners of all time

Probably all top five will be quarterbacks. Yeah, and I guarantee the top five NFL earners of all time, probably all top five will be quarterbacks. And I guarantee all top five come from two parent upper middle class homes. Because there's a certain type of stability you have to have to be the face of the franchise to be, you know, have to be the first guy in the last guy out. Like Kirk cousins had that. Like that's a, no wonder Kirk's there.

Like he hit the lottery when it comes to family and he worked hard and he did everything else, but he had the foundation. You can't tell me like a guy like, and more forgive me if I'm wrong, like the Sean Watson, it's like you give him $200 million. He's getting massages everywhere. Yeah. Or, you know, Eric. I have heard like, even in the combine, they'll be like, what's his relationship like with his mom? Like they'll ask stuff like, they wanna know

like the personal side of. Right, and I don't mean to single out Deshaun because everybody makes bad decisions, you know. But I think there's a certain level of fortitude you have to have that gets established young, you know? And then your linebackers, you need a guy that's a little crazy and smart. Yeah.

Or Romanowski in there spitting your face every now and then. Yeah, you need that. Yeah, where's the goons at, man? So yeah, I think that's a great question. That's really important because at the end of the day, a quarterback is the face of the franchise. You need somebody smart intelligence won't work dumb question

You're from Ohio played in Michigan Cold areas of did were you a sleeves guy or no sleeves guy I Try to be a no sleeves guy man, but I eventually wore the sleeves I'm a lot. You know there's a big change from like your 20s to your 30s and I'm a lot, you know, there's a big change from like your 20s to your 30s. And I think I've learned more and I'm tougher now than I was even then. And I was pretty intense then, you know. I do have a theory.

Are there a lot of people from Kansas, I mean, from Ohio in Kansas City? Not really. We haven't pulled those people to know. I'd have to look at the Census Bureau's data. Because the reason I ask is in Columbus, there's people at the Census Bureau's data because I know the reason I asked is in can in Columbus there's people all the time now like I'm from Kansas City. Okay weird I don't know but I don't know my theory is that in

these small college towns like Columbus Tuscaloosa, Tallahassee like football is like the church yeah because there's nothing else to do there is nothing else to do but like in nothing else to do. But like. In Columbus? Columbus is big, right? This just now getting big. Oh, okay.

I think it's like a top 15 city in the United States population, I think. Yeah. Like it's turning into like, you have to have a cool beard and tight jeans to live there. Oh, okay. But it's, yeah, but in these small towns, you know, football's bread.

But like, this is a pro sports town because there's more to do, I think. Like Kansas City, you guys have music and stuff, right? Oh yeah, we have music. Live music and ribs. Oh yeah, that's the main things. So anyways, I think that's why football works in some areas and it doesn't.

Because if there's more to do, if there's nothing to do, college football's nothing to do college football will work. Yeah. Cool. All right, I have one last question. I, and maybe you know this, maybe you didn't, but I just, sometimes I can't, as an NFL fan, as a viewer, it boggles my head when like Tua Takavailoa,

he goes down for the concussion, the Dolphins have all the talent in the world around him, they have apparently like a great head coach, genius. And with a backup quarterback, they can't move the ball. They can't get the ball to Tyree Kill. He has two catches, one catch. They can't run the ball anymore. How does that happen?

Yeah. How can they not, with an NFL quarterback, move the ball down the field? Yeah, that's why too it makes it big bucks because playing NFL quarterback, it's so, there's so much work. I was just like the fifth time I've said it, but you're the faith of the franchise.

You expect to know what every position on the field's doing on offense and really on defense for the other team. And there's no margin for error. And it's hard to play quarterback in the NFL. Yeah. Very difficult. So it's hard to find those guys. I think the best position in the NFL is to be a backup quarterback.

Because it's like, don't get hurt. Still get paid decent. Still get paid, don't get hurt. But then you get to learn, and you can get in there for your team. If you want to play, it's not the best position. But I will say, in Tua's instance, when he went down with that concussion,

quarterbacks, I bet, in the NFL never go live anymore in practice. They never get hit. And then you got Tua, who's a tough guy, is running head on into somebody. Now when he gets hurt, he hasn't built that calis up in his body.

So he crumbles every time he gets hit. So that's why I'm concerned for the game, is that I think it's good to worry about concussions. My theory is that they should take off, they should get rid of the helmets and go back to like the leather And that would help with concussions. I do because you would keep your head out of that is a radical I see you're saying like cuz yeah hockey didn't used to have helmets for a while and But you keep your head you like you. Yeah, you're protecting yourself more because you're not as padded right, but but people

helmets initially were supposed to like for like, you know, cranial breaks and nose breaks. And that's like, yeah, but your brain's rattling inside. You're not breaking your skull. Yeah. And I think it'd be better in the air we're living in. The players can market themselves better now. That's true.

You can see them a little bit better. You can see them, yeah. No one knows what half the guys in the league look like. Yeah. That's why I'm walking around the airport when I leave here, like, my name's Patrick Miles. Yeah, exactly. When Tyler Huntley was on the Ravens, you didn't know if Lamar or Tyler Huntley

was the quarterback of that game. You know, just like, how can you tell? They got a helmet on. Also, I would never be able to tell you what Tyler Huntley looks like. Yeah. So you know what LeBron James looks like. That's right.

Can I ask you guys a question? Yep. No dumb questions. Hey What is your favorite movie of all time? Hmm all time Forrest Gump mine did all right? Yeah, take that first go Dang maybe though, honestly, it's home alone Why'd you wanna ask that I can tell you guys are listening to your podcast. The people you are, you're very in tune with like culture and entertainment. And I was just curious. Um, what's your favorite movie? I got to say they're like fantastic. Mr. Fox. It's this like kind of niche. I don't don't know Wes Anderson we hang out with him later or maybe that's all maybe like the Truman show great

movie or like just a classic like the Incredibles Wow yeah right two e five stars yeah hey five star what's yours force gump we bumped That's right. Or Riba Titans. Great movie. Thank you. All right. I want my life to be like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like my school was segregated. Where's my sunshine? And then, um, force gump, Godfather, Rocky Shawshank Redemption. Yeah. Nice. First Rocky. Yes. Okay. Rocky four was great too, though. I mean, it's a little over the edge. Yeah, he's working out in the leather coat national treasure Yeah, is it really good yeah, if you're 14, it's awesome, okay, you got kids is that with what's his face

Nicholas Cage, yeah, have you ever seen speed to it doesn't have count reason. Oh See speed Don't watch the second time. Did you have any questions for the football guy? Not really not a not a I drive 10 hours here You know, I didn't drive Do you have any questions for time it time and would you recommend homeschool for other families 100%? Why just cuz I feel like I was like set up for success and I think that's just like a good, I don't know, the flexibility it offers is great and I just like I loved my childhood. Then how do you describe why

you're so socially awkward? You're not at all, you're a great guy. Thank you. Of course, the best homeschool kid I met. That's right. Home school kid. My kids in homeschool. Yeah, you think about it Yeah, we do. We're praying about it, but it's like here Shakira your homeschooling the kids. I'm gonna go work Yeah, yeah, it's kind of hard. Yeah, it's like yeah, she really needs to be on board So if everybody goes out and buys all this so strong get them Products right then I can afford to get tutors so I can yeah An hour ago this bag was full. Yeah, yeah, yeah. An hour ago, this bag was full.

Yeah, really. I have been going nuts on this. You guys gotta get these oat bites. That's all I'm gonna say. Get the oat bites. Get those for your mama. Chocolate chip cookie dough, get the oat bites. Yeah, so somebody asked me the other day, they're like, Justin, tell us a little bit

about your oat bites. I'm like, why don't you go ask your mama? Yeah, so strong food.com. Yeah, we got with the sweepstakes going right now for the $200 gift card. Sweepstakes almost gave it away to everybody. Yeah, somebody's positive. The next two weeks, if you use GRKC,

enter to win a $200 gift card. Yep. Insane. Treat your mom to it. Treat yourself to it. Treat your mama. Yeah. Treat your mama. I want to say one last thing. Please. Honored please honored to be here honored to be friends with you guys. Thank you, man

Yeah, so fun to have you. Yeah, it's really really a blessing when I first saw Brad. I'm like, I like this guy Yeah, what's up with this guy? Thank you for having me on dude. Yeah, it's this is awesome. It's so fun Yeah, I I was like, he's gonna be so fun. I was like, Justin's the man in so many ways. So on board. Let's go eat some barbecue. Let's go. All right.

It's on me. Here we go. Here we go. Thank you, Justin, for joining. Two episodes in a row. Nice guy. So strong, I'll take you on. So strong, thank you, Justin, getting on.

Justin, for getting on. Justin, for getting on. I could have done that better. That's good. That's good. Why do I have to jingle? Wrap this episode up with our wins of the week and comments of the week. Brad.

Yeah, my win of the week is table setters. Shout out to Will and all the other guys that are in it, but mainly Will, because he's like the main guy running it. Do it once a month. Just kind of a guys get together kind of time. And it's one of those things that every, every month I'm like, I don't know what this is going to be like. And it's one of those things where it's like, you fool.

It's always amazing. It always energizes me. It always like is a wonderful palate cleanser of sorts. Like it's just great. So you fool, you fool. You know, it's like one of those things where it's like every time you do it, it's like, I never regretted that. Yeah. Like same with like working out or whatever it is. Like you fool. You forget every time that it's going to feel good after short memory. So thank you to Will and all the guys for

being in it. Shout out to Jordan specifically. He's a Jordan and Rustin I think are big ghosties that listen. Clifton, those guys. All right. Yeah, yeah. So, one of the week. My one of the week is I loved my time in Palm Springs. I love getting to know all the guys there. So, Trey and Katie are going to Maui this winter for like three weeks just to get away, experience some warmth. So I've been talking to Rachel, like,

we should go out there. That would make correct opinions easier, mood swings easier. So I've already had a weekend in mind that I was planning on maybe going to Maui, meeting them up there. And then the guys on this trip were like, hey, do you know about this like

pickleball tournament in Maui, whatever? And I was like, whoa, no, when is it? And they were like, it's January 25th. I was like, that's when I was planning on going there. That's crazy. What a twinkie day. So they're like, yeah, we're like 80% sure we're going. And then Alex, the pilot, he was like, I'll go. And I was like, dude, we should just play% sure we're going and then Alex the pilot he was like I'll go and I was like dude

We should just play it. We're like the same skill level. So I was like you bring your wife You could just like stay with us and we could play in the tournament together. I It's cohesive. It's all one thing. It's a win I thought you were about to say I forgot the pilot meant the FPV drone pilot I thought you were gonna say he's gonna fly you out there So he does have access to like little planes. Like he was going to fly up to Kid's City on his own plane, but he's, I think Maui's a little much. Little plane. Yeah. Maui and little plane. No good. No more planes.

Thanks. Little plane, big Maui. No quinoa cookies. Gold tower. That is a great win. That's kind of fun. Who knows if it'll actually happen or not, but I hope it happens. I hope it happens. Tyman, you got a win? Yeah. Who knows if I actually happen or not, but I hope it happens How about it? Yeah, when yeah, uh What day was it? Saturday I want to say there was like a menu choir concert that I would have been in but I was still sick but I had just like a really fun time just like

Watching it seeing my sister. It was a little like me and my mom go to see it Yeah, that's just a fun fun memory just you and your mother There's something nice about just you and one parent doing, especially your mom. You know, I like doing stuff with just my mom. Is your mom mad at me for taking you to Vegas and giving you pneumonia? No, I haven't asked, though. I was just going to ask that question. Just put it in her head.

Like, are you mad at me? Yeah. OK, good. Brad, comment of the week? Yeah, comment of the week goes to Josiah Gossinier. 6495. The shark sandwiches, we're talking about, yeah, Trinidadian. Shark sandwiches are awesome. We call it shark and bake, and it's a thin fried bread, a fried shark, and every condiment imaginable.

Always love a Trinidad mention. Yeah, Josiah Trinidad, and the shark bake is awesome. And they do have these like amazing sauces for it. That's what I remember being so fun, so good. So shout out to Trinidad and Tobago. One of our favorite countries, not America, would you say? Top 15?

And a country so similar to us, unlike Canada. So similar. They speak English. The way they speak, yeah, unlike Canada. So similar. They speak English. The way they speak, yeah, English Creole down there. Because Canadians sometimes they're French. Montreal. Like tons of Canadians, like most of Canada speaks French. You look at Northern Canada and the amount of people live up there and the French and

it's just crazy. French. Wee wee. More like no no. Good. Right? My comment of the week, hard to decide. like no, no. Good. Right? My comment of the week, hard to decide. Kelsey Friend, Honorable Mitch,

and I love anytime you have an SBU story. So keep those coming, always fun. But Elizabeth Virgil said, totally related with Rachel's family vacation style. I never thought we didn't have money growing up, but looking back now as an adult, it's very obvious that on a pastor's salary with five kids, my dad was just a great budgeter.

Brad, I highly encourage you to take your kids away to a hotel. That was my parents go-to, and my siblings and I have so many fun memories of going to stay one or two nights at a hotel an hour away. That's awesome. Hotel pool, baby. Hotel pool.

People did really resonate with the, yeah, all this stuff, but hotel pool seemed like people loved it. Yeah, water activities ended up becoming a very, just like nostalgic schmores, which is fun Yeah, that's great Fun we missed you timing but man Rachel did great. Hmm. Yeah, maybe we just you know, is that a quarterly thing? parent-teacher conferences I

Don't know. I don't either What are the taxes? Yeah, maybe every time she has to do her taxes, she does estimates at home. She has to take two days off. All right. Thanks as always, guys, for supporting us. Go to our website if you want to buy some merch. Yeah. Go to Patreon if you want to support us on Patreon. Go to Friday Pickleball, fridaypickle.com.

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