Giggly Squad - Giggling about bikinis, road tests, and cheerleading

Episode Date: June 24, 2025

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I mean, the day just got away from me. Hello, my Gucci gigglers. Yes. Because you just brought up you may be having to stop by, do some shopping because you're in Italy. I never go on my WhatsApp. Like I forget that I even have it. Like I don't use it.

When I was in Fiji, that's like all they were using it, so I like randomly checked it and I have a message from like a number, but it says like Margarita. And I'm like, wait, who is this? And so I click into it and it's like, hi Paige, says like Margarita and I'm like wait who is this and so I click into it and it's like hi Paige this is Margarita from Gucci and Capri like just wondering where you are and I've never felt more seen. Those are the only people you want texting you is what's her name Margarita? A personal shopper in Italy is the only people that should be contacting my phone.

Also, I downloaded WhatsApp, but I thought I wasn't getting notifications, so I just missed everyone's texts for like a year. And honestly, it was quite nice. Me too. I thought it was spam. Like when I get an alert, I'd be like, what the fuck is WhatsApp?

I'd be like, gross. I was like, report, block. Well, also because it's green, so I was like, ew, get out like, report, block. Well, also because it's green, so I was like, ew, get out of here. No, I know. I'm like, please stop texting this number. I don't wanna buy what you're selling. But people in other countries,

that's all they use. No, Des loves a WhatsApp. You know he does. Yeah. Also, I didn't address last time, just to preface. I did get to interview Brad Pitt. Yes. My mom was like really First one to text me about it Your mother has never been so excited for anything I've ever done in my life I literally was like, oh, I didn't know you were such a Brad Pitt fan. She was like, well, that's very big

Kim to sore boat text me and she was like, well, that's very big. Kim, the sore boat, texts me and she goes, Zaddy, not me exposing Kim on the pod, but it really made me laugh. Wait, that's so funny. I did get a lot of texts from moms about Brad Pitt. Like all of my friends' moms texted me. And, but I guess he's at that point where. Wait, I was just gonna say, who is our Brad Pitt? They don't make him like they used to.

They're frail now. They blow away with a little wind. You're so, they're lanky now. Lanky, it's the- I would say Jacob Elordi, but he's- It's the gluten allergies. Yeah, they're lanky. But Brad, not as tall as I thought.

And they never are. Not as tall as I thought. How tall though? I'm gonna say like five, 10, 5'11", which is fine. Okay. Which is fine. Fine. Sturdy.

Fine. But I actually, I took a beta block obviously. Why'd I say beta block? Yeah, you immediately turned into Mikey Madison. I took a beta blocker. So I was feeling myself, this whole thing, they shut down Times Square, which I thought was illegal. They shut down Times Square.

One of the blocks was full of race cars and the other block, they made like a stage and there were like people sitting, you know how they do in Times Square, and they like put me on the stage and I was like just standing on the stage. But look here, I was like this is where I belong, just yelling at people in Times Square on a stage.

And they were like, you don't have to say anything and I'm like, I'm pretty sure I'm here to pump up the crowd. They were like, it's actually live streamed so you don I'm here to pump up the crowd. They were like, it's actually live stream so you don't really have to pump up the crowd. Why do I envision you being like, okay, and when do I throw the t-shirts? I pull out a t-shirt gun and I'm like, where's Brad? But I'm like standing there and you see the celebrity

and then I'm standing on the stage and they have to like walk up to you to get interviewed. So it was like a whole process. And the whole time, we didn't know if we were gonna get Brad. It was very, and are we gonna get Brad? Isn't that so interesting on red carpets? It's like, we're here for your movie,

but we have no idea if you're going to acknowledge us in the moment or not. 100%, but Brad was kissing every baby, shaking every hand. he literally said hi to everyone in Times Square, finally comes to me and I'm, it went through the beta blocker. My heart started beating through the beta blocker and I was like oh fuck it's Brad Pitt. Because also they made this big thing like at the end is he gonna be the last one? He's an A-list celebrity.

He's larger than life. Well here's the other thing also like you grew up in New York City but like even like living in New York City it's obviously not weird to like see a celebrity on the street but there are like certain celebrities that if you do see them out in the wild like you get starstruck like I'll never forget the time, like the first time I saw Leonardo DiCaprio,

like my body physically didn't move, like I couldn't move. You go limp. Yeah, I was like, wait, but that's Leonardo DiCaprio, like that's crazy. And that's like, I feel like that's dwindling, like that level of, well social media changed that. Look at us just talking about the world and the state

it's in in social media, but everyone's famous now. Everyone's famous. Arguably people who are less famous are more famous than the famous people. Hannah, yes. And do you wanna know what? I actually had a thought. I actually.

We never pause when we're talking. So when you pause, I know that shit hit. You're like, wait, stop. Everyone stop. It's so true because you know who I think about all the time, Mary-Kate and Ashley. Wanna know why? Cause we never see them.

And I actually had a thought where I was like, maybe in Italy, I'm not gonna post anything. Oh, don't tempt me Don't tempt me with a good time. I'm like, what if I just don't show any of my outfits and I really actually Unplug I'm on the in this place with social media where I'm either like let's go harder or like let's completely disappear I'm in this place with social media specifically on TikTok where I never I don't even go to the other tabs like I've I don't click my activity tab ever. No no no I haven't done it since 1994. My activity tab not for me. If someone else wants to click it go for it but it's literally not for me and so I'm

only on my for you page so if I'm not seeing it on my for you page like I it's literally not for me. And so I'm only on my For You page. So if I'm not seeing it on my For You page, like I don't see it. I've actually never gone to my activities place. Only occasionally I'll be on my phone and it'll be like so and so mention you and page and then I feel like it is a giggler. Yeah. And then I click it and then I realize

that if I don't respond now, I'm never gonna see it again. So then I'm responding to people two seconds after they posted a video about us. That's nice, it's a nice video. And then I creep them out and then they're like, Hannah, get a life, get a job. Yeah, people hate to see me in the comments. I'm like, sorry for being alive. You are up in the comments.

Well, you've been very busy. You've been doing a lot of things and it's time for you to be in Italy rehab. I don't physically know what time zone I'm in. Like my, like I. You're just a girl. It's not your job to understand time. But. I don't.

You went from 16 hours like ahead in Fiji, which I didn't know was legal, then back to New York. Back to New York. Reverse way.'t know was legal. Then back to New York, reverse way. Back to, I landed Saturday night in New York at 12.30. Got to my apartment at 1.30, took a shower, unpacked all of my bags from Fiji, started looking at my outfits for Italy, was like I should like get a couple hours of sleep.

Went to sleep at like 3 a.m., woke up at 7 a.m., packed all my outfits for Italy until like noon, then left for the airport. This is my question. Yeah. Are you happy with how the outfits came out? You know, I'm happier than I thought I was gonna be. When I was on the plane back from Fiji,

I was like, what am I even packing for Italy? I have nothing. I mean, you did have 16 hours to think about it, but. Then when I got in there and I surveyed what was happening, what was going on, I have a Daphne story though. So I was gone, I was in Fiji for what, like 10, nine, 10 days, and I was just like, obviously just like really missing Daphne.

So when I got home, I saw this TikTok earlier that was like, you should tell your pets like what you're doing. Like they know they can understand like when you tell them. So I got in bed and I like pulled Daphne up and I'm like, I'm so sorry that I was gone for 10 days. Like I was working but tomorrow I also have to leave for two weeks but it's okay because we're gonna sleep together tonight. Hannah, I'm not kidding you. It's like she looked at me and was like, okay got it. Thanks for letting me know. She then slept on my shoulder which she rarely,

rarely does. Like if she does that it's like one pause on my shoulder And it's for like five minutes, and then she's like had enough She literally slept on my shoulder head in my neck for like three hours. I couldn't move I was I was gonna pack then and I was like like No, I'm crying. I'm actually it was like it was honestly a spiritual experience How did you not put her in a in one of your luggages? No, I started tearing up. I was like, you understand what I'm saying.

And like, I obviously start chat GPT-ing it. And I'm like, Daphne, what does that mean? And she was like, she loves you. She loves you. And also cats do get love starved. Like you'd been gone. And- Also I am trying to not use my chat GPT. It's really bad for the environment. Everyone keeps saying it and I'm like, okay, you know what?

Let me lay off for a minute. Let's all be honest though. We don't really know how it's connected to the environment But I believe people I believe them. I believe them just like I believe them about Plastic straws if chat GPT is killing a turtle, I'm off. Yeah, I'm out. I was like, I almost told my Chachi-PT, like, hey, I'm not gonna be around for a little bit because... Have you asked the Chachi-BT how they're bad for the environment? No, but that's... we should. We literally should. I have to say, look, Google works. Google works.

Let's just go old school and ask Jeeves, you know? Like, it'll be fine. Wait, what a throwback. Oh my God. Ask Jeeves. Speaking of a throwback. Yeah. I have a documentary I'm excited to watch.

Which one? A documentary's coming out about American apparel and what happened. Wait, I saw a commercial for that. I want the tea, cause that, that was my shit. No, American Apparel, the choke hold that American Apparel had on millennials specifically. We both definitely went different directions.

My favorite shirt from American Apparel, which is so henna coated, was a V-neck that was green, but like smoky tie dye green, acid wash green. I wore it with my jeans, my like bell bottomy jeans kind of, and I was obsessed with it. And I wore it with my push-up bra, and I was like, can you be sexier? I don't think it's possible.

What year would you say you were peaking at American Apparel? High school. Okay, interesting because we didn't have American Apparel. We didn't have any stores and all that. I had friends working in it. They were so cool. They'd blow jobs and stuff.

So I didn't like... Not in the store. No, HR. I didn't experience it till I moved to New York. So I was like 22, but they had the best going out body suits. Oh my God, I did have this crazy bodycon dress that was like black on top, red on the bottom,

ass fat, that was snatched before people even talked about being snatched. American Pro snatched it up. And what happened? They just like disappeared one day. It was just like one day all the stores were gone. No, I know. It's like every billboard just was like burned down. There's definitely like serious drama with it.

But they did have interesting marketing. Like the girls were like very sensual. Yeah. And I think they had weird hiring practices. But the girls had a look. They all had like no makeup. Long hair. Very long hair.

Real boobs that were never consistent. So it's like everyone had a different boob shape and they just rocked it. It was very like, it was, I feel like it was very peak like New York City. Yeah. Like what? Dirt bag, but like cute.

It was like you either went to Forever 21 or you shopped at American Apparel and it was two very different girls. But American Apparel was expensive. Like I remember it was like like Forever 21 was cheaper. But American Apparel too, they had like, yeah, it was the vibe. And it's interesting, like you starting a brand,

do you think about like, the brand, it was cultish. It was very cultish, yeah, American Apparel was a cult. So anyway, I can't wait to watch that shit. I'm excited for that too um speaking of a cult I we are so good at transitions right now we're literally so good killing I watched actually before I even say this I watched our new episode of Hannah and Paige try new things this week honestly I think is like one of my favorites okay so I watched the raw footage.

I haven't watched the updated one yet, but I had to make an announcement. This is the week that Paige is so much better than me at one of the activities, because everyone's been like, it's just Hannah forcing Paige to do things that Hannah wants to do. I did not want to do this shit.

It's aerial yoga. Yeah. You were incredible. Honestly though, when I watched the footage back, I wasn't as good as I thought I was. Like when you're dancing drunk. I'm like, oh, I thought I looked way better. You can't tell from it,

but she would give us an instruction. You would just do it where I'd be like, like it was like a card game. I'm like, that made no sense it was also dangerous it's also funny for like us specifically because like the episodes aren't going we're not like doing all the episodes in like chronological order like we're doing them like as we like that like what we think is like funny to show you guys yeah so like I'm trying to like see like where my mental state

was. So am I. I was like oh she is. I'm like oh was this had to be early on in the tour. This was you know like I actually felt good at this one and it was I think later in the tour. Also I could tell there's some more I'm like you could tell that I'm like not walking in eggshells's some where I'm like, you could tell that I'm like, not walking on eggshells around you, but I'm like really trying to make sure you're okay. You're okay, yeah. And I'm just like mute. You were disassociating

and I'd be like looking at the camera like, we're going to so and so today. Paige is feeling great, right? We're feeling great, right? We're feeling great. But it is so cool to watch these experience back where I was like, oh, we're feeling great, right? We're feeling great. But it is so cool to watch these experience back where I was like, oh, we were so tired and we didn't wanna shoot this

and then we did and we had so much fun. Yeah. And like, I don't regret anything. No, it was so fun. Like now I'm like, I'm not doing a tour unless we do like funny stuff. Yeah. Like. But this aerial yoga, if you don't know what it is,

I mean, I can't explain it, but you're in, you don't know what it is, I mean I can't explain it But you're in you're up in the air doing stuff. Yeah, you're in like a like a circle thing And now I know exactly how you felt like when I was in the batting cage And I just like kept hitting balls and I'm like, yeah, let's do this all day literally five minutes in I was like We're still going like how many more No, we were there for like 45 minutes. But you were just like, yeah, and cross this leg around this arm

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It was a different name. It was just so not up my alley. And I always got, I always felt like bad for them and I felt like they were over sexualized and I just didn't like it. The show that used to be on television, I can't even think what year that had to have, I mean that had to have been like 2005

or like in that time range, like early 2000s. It was diabolical, never be able to be on TV today. Like they'd get canceled immediately. Yeah. So the documentary is a little bit different but there's still women of a certain age in the South. So like, they're still saying things without saying them. They've changed from calling a girl fat

to just being like, and she's full of life. You know? Like, she's... I'm like, I think we know what you mean here. Like this is a for sure an HR violation. Like it's, she's like, they're like, she's smart. Wait, can we all, next time you want to say you feel fat, can you just say, I feel full of life today?

I feel chock full of life. I feel chock full of life. God bless her, she is full of life. So I'm watching, there's like eight episodes probably. This season was like by far not even close to as good as like the first season was. Well, cause the girls are getting paid now. Well, they didn't, okay, well they didn't get paid.

That's the whole lore. They didn't get that payment change till like after they were done filming. So there's like a group of maybe like five girls that are like, hey, we're gonna ask the Dallas Cowboys for more money. The Dallas Cowboys are like one of the most successful franchises in all of the NFL. Like if any team has the money to pay these girls, it's the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, a guy sitting on the bench is getting paid $20 million. Right. I'm going to do a bunch of spoilers. This group of girls, like five of them,

are really fighting for the girls to get paid more. One girl who's basically at the forefront of it, her name is, what was her name, Amanda, I want to say. She's fighting for it. Then the two coaches, which I will get into them, have this conversation with her. Gaslight the fuck out of her because they stopped booking her because the girls go on different like appearances and the whole 36 teammates don't all go to every appearance. So they'll pick like 10 to go

perform somewhere and like another 10. She stopped like getting booked for like the appearances. And so she goes in to talk to them like, is this because I'm fighting for like the girls to have more money? And mind you, it's her last year. So like, she doesn't actually have to be fighting for this. And she says that like, I know this isn't going to affect me.

She's fighting for the future of these women and their lives. She's like, but I know this is going to affect the girls younger than me. And the girls younger than her don't wanna fight because they're like, we just made the team. Like, we're not trying to fuck it up. Yeah, they're scared. They basically phase this girl out of the show.

The other girls that were like fighting with her kind of like go silent. And she's like- So is them fighting for more pay a storyline? Kind of, yeah. But the two coaches aren't involved. Like they don't go to the coaches first, they go to like the board of whatever.

And basically the board is like, fuck you guys. Like you don't like it, like leave. You don't want, like you don't care about the pay, like go. Well the whole thing is there's tons of women that would love to be right in your spot shaking their little tails. Yeah, and it's like, okay, well that doesn't make it correct because mind you, the Rockettes, normal living wage,

they have benefits, I think, like they're like, they're treated as professional dancers. So like they do compare it to the Rockettes a lot. And these girls are as talented. Oh no, yeah these girls, like I think Dows Cowboy, I think they get kind of like a bad, not I don't even want to say a bad rep because they're called cheerleaders.

These are professional dancers. Professional dancers, yeah. They're not cheerleaders in the sense of like, they're throwing stunts up in the air and going to cheer competitions. Like they're professional dancers. Can I just say what we're all thinking? The reason why I don't like cheerleading

is because of the core root of it, which is that it's a bunch of women rooting for men. Okay, as a cheerleader, as a former? You're literally giving them the attention and cheering them on. Like that's your purpose. I can't support that. As a former captain of the varsity cheerleading squad, I resent that issue.

I resent it wholeheartedly. No, okay, yes, that's the core of it. But like, okay, perfect example is like when I was in high school, I am exactly what you were describing. I joined the cheerleading team because I knew that Fridays you got out of school early and you went and you had dinner at the boys' school. And all I wanted to do was show up in my school uniform

to the boys' school and look at them during dinner. And like- It's literally so male gaze. It's so male gaze. Yeah, I was so boy crazy. Did I give a fuck about cheerleading? Not really. But then once I was on the team,

yeah, then you have that team camaraderie. And it is fun. Also, girls are breaking legs and shit. It's kind of crazy, right? I mean, the stunts are actually, I have been dropped on my head so many fucking times. We can tell. But I had girls on my team specifically

that cheerleading was their life. They were on all star teams and all they did was compete. See the ESPN competitions I fuck with, that was insane. I loved it. They're cheerleaders, but they're not cheering for men anywhere.

They're just competing against each other. So like, and some of the things these cheerleaders do, like it's insane. Like they're gymnasts, they're gymnasts and they're dancers. They're triple threats. Like I watch the cheerleading competitions on TikTok all the time because they're just so good. Anyway, I forget what my original thought was,

but because you just like, you came for cheerleading. You got really mad because I came for all that you stand for. My one organized sport, and you're like, it's a joke. And I'm like, but we're, we wear eyeshadow. I like when it's organized. Name another sport where they wear eyeshadow. I don't like when they're like, and you girls are just gonna tell the men

that they're gonna do well tonight. And even when they're losing, you believe in them. No, I think the cheerleaders should leave if the guys are doing bad. They're like, I don't get paid enough for this. Honestly, no one, like when you're at cheerleading practice, no one's talking about the guys. It's your practicing. It's your show. You're practicing because then you're going to perform at halftime, but that performance is what you're going to competitions with. So you're really just practicing what you're going to go to competition with. So you're really just practicing what you're gonna go to competition with.

Got it. What if it was cheerleaders performing and men playing catch on the sides? I think that they, at cheer competitions, men should be going and cheering them on. Like it's cutthroat. Yeah, I think the football team should cheer on the cheerleading team.

They absolutely should. I like the cheerleaders because they would train with the mascots in college so we would all hang out. But they were all so talented. But they were, look, it was a different breed in Wisconsin. These girls were cold. These were not Dallas. These were not the Florida girls.

These girls, I hate to say it, they were pale. They were pale and they were freezing their butts off. No, Hannah, when I was in high school, there was like a cheerleader magazine that I subscribed to. Oh my God. Like when you would go to cheerleading camp, it was, like we would go to cheerleading camp

and then it would be all the surrounding schools cheerleading teams. And so then you would like compete at cheerleading camp. It was, cheerleading camp was like some of the best moments of my life. But we talked about when I went to one of my high schools, the cheerleading team was like cool, but like if you gave a good blow job,

you were on the dance team. Yeah. When the dance girls came out, I was like, they're 24 years old. No, they didn't, because the dance team had swag. But because the dance girls came out, I was like, they're 24 years old. No, they didn't, because the dancing had swag. Like, because the dance team, I will never forget these, I was like a freshman, these girls came out, they're wearing their like folded over yoga pants,

you know, and like tiny little shirts, and Sierra, my goodies comes on, and I was like, this is the coolest thing I've ever seen in my life. No, it was the first time you were introduced to that slutty. Like that, am I allowed to pop that thing like that? And all their hair was so straight, like everyone here was straightened with a little bang.

Who knew it was a time to be alive? No, cheerleading is really like, it's a lost art. But anyway, DCC is like, so it's their second season now and the two coaches, I forget honestly what their names even are. It's like one is like the choreographer. They've both been there for like a thousand years. Can I guess their names?

Sherri Anne. Honestly, yeah, I think so. And Lisa. Like literally yes. Here's the thing about these women and like they do seem like fine in like if you were to meet them I don't think they'd like beat you over the head like I think they'd be very cordial. But like they would be annoying in a grocery line. No this type of woman actually scares the shit out of me and I and like I'm not trying to come for the south whatsoever but I feel like I have been around this type of woman before and it's and it's like they're so nice to you when

you're talking to them and then you leave the room and you're like, I think they just insulted my entire existence. Like, and I didn't even realize it in that conversation. One of the girls that they like didn't let make the team, they knew her mom for like 40 years. Like she worked with them every day. And then like when they cut her daughter, they just like never spoke to this woman again. Like they were like, basically the woman was like,

yeah, I mean she was in my wedding, but I can't put her daughter on the team. And it's like, okay, yeah, she's not gonna take a spot from someone who's more qualified. But I would argue that aren't a lot of the girls super qualified and it comes down to some subjective opinions. They're all extremely qualified.

And she'll be like, I don't like how her toe didn't point. Well, the way they act, this is the best thing these women are ever going to do in their lives is really uncomfortable, especially when all these girls are like, I work four jobs and then I go to practice. Also, let's be honest, it's like this experience we're all watching them do on TV right now,

they're gonna talk about in therapy for the rest of their life. For the rest of their life. Is it important in that way? Yes, you're traumatizing her. But then this season, you saw a lot more of like the girls' husbands and boyfriends. And let me just tell you, it was jarring.

It was so jarring because not only are these women, some of the most beautiful women like you'll ever see in your life, but they're talented, they're dancers, like they're hustlers, they're working a thousand jobs, they're trying to make ends meet. And then these men pop up on the screen and you're like, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, is this, I'm sorry, is something wrong? Like are you doing a

chair? Like what's going on here? I don't mean to stereotype, but it is proven that like in the South people do settle down earlier. So sometimes I'll see a guy and be like, how the fuck did he get hurt? I'm like, wait, was he in his prime in college? No, they scared them. They scared them into it. They scared them into it. You have five minutes. No, you literally have five minutes.

And so one of the things one of the girls said was, she was like, I feel bad for my other teammates because they're trying to live off of this money. And she was like but I have a husband and so in my head I'm just like wait guys like you're stressing me out I was getting so stressed watching it because I was like how are they handling all of it and then not only do they have to show up and wear the teeniest tini outfits. Like they have to be perfect at everything, or they get... Like the one girl broke a rule, and the rule was she let a man into her hotel room. And I'm like, guys, I thought you were gonna come out and say she drugged everyone?

I don't know why I went there. Like she like, they're on vacation, she like got drugs and made everyone do it. I was like, okay, maybe like not the best thing. Ketamine. Not the best thing to do, but again, you're in the Bahamas. Look, she needed a release, she's stressed. But then they were like, and she led a man into the room. Also, who snitched on her, that's not cool.

I'm like, okay. It's just very, it's just, I think also, I think I have PTSD because I feel like being from the Northeast, women get such a rep of, you're cold, you're harsh, you're mean, where the South, it's like, they're so nice, they're so whatever, and it's like, but not even, no. It's just not.

There's assholes everywhere you go, is what I like to say. There's assholes everywhere and some of them are in sheep's clothing. It's crazy, but I just feel like in the Northeast, it's like if you don't like someone that person knows you don't like them, we're down there, it's like, you could think that's your best friend

and they fucking hate you. Like that's the difference. That's so scary. But it is like a different language that like they can read where like other people can't. It also is so interesting, people being like good at things. Yeah. Like I would be so bad at being a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader.

I'd be so bad at it. I definitely wasn't asked, but I'd be so bad for so many reasons. Like when I was on the tennis team, I would get in trouble because they would tell us what we had to wear for every practice and every competition. As a part of now, I see it's like a team thing,

where with me I was like, it's a miracle I made it here on time. You also want me to be wearing the red and the black shorts. I still have night wears, and there's a photo that's really funny, one of our first competitions. Everyone's wearing their red tracksuit and I'm in my gray sweat tracksuit and for sure got in trouble had to wake up at 7 a.m. and do the bike for it but like in my head like I couldn't grasp why the coach was

so frustrated about that I'm like I want like why are you mad I wanted sorry I don't like how the tag on the red sweatsuit feels on me I'm wearing the gray I think one of the reasons that we're best friends and because there's so many things where we're like We have different interests or things we like but like our core values like You can't tell us what to do Physically combust like we're like, oh, you want me to wear the red? Perfect, I'll be in the blue. But that's like where we bond.

This is how we bond. I'll text you during the day and be like, can we not do this the way they want us to do it? And you go, absolutely not. And then I'm like at peace with myself. Well, because sometimes also, and this is just a reminder for the girls, sometimes we have to remind ourselves

that we are the adults also. True. Like, and we can say no, and we don't have to remind ourselves that we are the adults also. True. Like, and we can say no, and we don't have to listen to, like you don't have to listen to everything people tell you to do. As Michelle Obama said, no is a full sentence. And also what I've learned from being around Paige,

from following Paige around, is that people actually like respect the person more who has boundaries. Cause we'll be in a place I've seen before where I'm sucking up, being over the top, trying to be nice to someone. I know exactly the time you're talking about. I couldn't even put my finger, this is how we are.

And Paige will just be very to the point, and matter of fact, and I could see that they want Paige's attention more than mine when I'm like I've been fucking listening to all your stories all day and that kind of thing yeah but it's it's just unnecessary effort because also I think another thing that we're similar we don't care who you are or what you've done. We don't care. We don't care, I just don't want you to like me. It's not that it doesn't impress us.

No, we're not impressed. We don't care about the superficial things. We like people who are funny. What you've accomplished has nothing to do with me. And also, I'm not sucking up to you because you own where we're standing. I don't care. I don't give up But I don't care. I don't care and if you're a man, oh, I double don't give a fuck I do not give a flying fuck. I don't care

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to take a driver's lesson. Yes! I've been waiting to hear how this went. Shout out Greg. Poor Greg. He's about to retire. And he's one step out the door from his 25 years of teaching.

I think that's a requirement as a driver ed teacher. You have to be on death's door. I think he's on death's door. And he's so cute. He's this former cop. And he walks in, he's like, as a driver ed teacher. You have to be on death's door. I think he's on death's door. And he's so used to this former cop and he walks in, he's like, I'm about to retire. I go, I'm your last, I'm your last lesson. Okay, like I'm the last challenge. I'm your final Marvel stone.

Literally. I'm like, if you can get me to pass my road test, like you can do anything in this life. Monuments will be erected in your honor, sir. Okay, there's a whole group of girls rooting for you. And I don't know what it was, I swear to God, when Dez was driving me to this lesson, I became a teenager again.

Like immediately, I was like, I don't want to do this. I was like, I don't want to do this. And he's like, you have to get your fucking license. And I was like, he's gonna be disappointed, I'm gonna mess it up he he's gonna be disappointed to mess it up everyone's gonna be mad at me were you in a driver ed car where like he also has a steering wheel yes but first Dez was driving me and look it was also confusing because Dez in England in England and Ireland apparently they like turn different, whatever, longs or short, it's fucking confusing. But Greg was so peaceful and calm and understanding.

In Ireland, are they driving on the other side of the road? They drive on the other side and also he told me that like you're not supposed to cross your hands when turning, you're supposed to feed. You're not supposed to over steer can get you in a bad accident Yeah, but then this guy was like you're allowed to cross your hands just like the right way So I'm dealing with a lot. I'm learning a lot right now, but Greg was really calm and he was like so what's your story?

I was like we don't have time. We don't have time Greg, but I think let's focus at the task Greg. But I think let's focus on the task. Greg, we don't have time for this shit. Like, actually, I have a new hour. If you could just stay for one minute, let me try this out on you. I chose the new jokes that I'm working on. I want to test with you. But I I realized that my learners permit expired expires in August. So we are in the trenches right now. No pressure.

You've literally put your relaxing summer in a time crunch. So what you have to schedule your road test before your permit expires? I schedule... first of all I also want to apologize to the Academy for anyone I'm stressing out with this right now because Gigli Squad is supposed to be so peaceful but like I have to trauma dump on you guys right now. No this is my therapy girl.. Put it out, put it in the book, honey. I took out, I had to take a five hour driving class online. I did that the other day also, don't be jealous.

Okay. And if I don't pass the test by August, then I have to like restart everything. Restart everything. This is so hana-coded. I'm literally so scared. And then I go to set up my road test, and it turns out every kid in the summer is trying to get their road test.

I have to drive to Westchester to do it. Oh my God. No, I know. But then someone said to keep checking. Long story short, I'm so upset and stressed, but now I'm trying to have a different approach. I'm like, let's... Okay, and what was your experience in the driver ed car? How did you feel? Well, honestly, Greg just had... honestly, he was awesome. I love Greg and he made me feel calm, but it was kind of nerve-racking

because he kept asking me questions and you could tell he couldn't tell yet if I was gonna be good or bad and neither could I, I'll tell you that right now. And then he was like, okay, it's your turn. And I honestly am getting anxiety that I'd have in my teens. Where you're like, I don't know what's gonna happen,

I'm scared and I'm being forced to do this and I don't want to. Let me give you some encouragement as someone who also took Drivers Ed in high school. It was honestly one of the best experiences because in high school we would do it after school and it'd be four girls in one car so it would kind of be funny. Dangerous but.

So dangerous. I was by. They're like, we're singing, we're smoking weed, crossroads. Lady Gaga had just like come out with an album and like what are we to do? I was by far the worst in my car like every time I got in the driver's seat like my driver ed teacher was like I just need to let you know You will not pass you're not passing your road test and I would just like I took that as a suggestion Okay again, I was like that you were like to my haters who don't believe in me Okay, first of all, I don't work for you

Second of all, you're just pouring gasoline and I'm about to light shit up I'm like you've never seen my charm in action. And I did pass my road test when he said I wasn't going to. So I truly think it depends on where you take your road test. Have you looked, because the kids talk, have you looked online, like is Westchester hard? I searched Reddit. And they said Riverhead is one of the easiest ones.

And I failed Riverhead. So that we're starting who knows where to begin. Did I already make an announcement on the pod saying I don't want to do anything illegal but if there is a giggler who happens to be that would be really just convenient. Nothing illegal but like can I talk to you for a sec? I passed my road test once but I shouldn't have passed it because she was like, okay, park, and to finish the road test, and I ran the curb, but she already printed out the receipt that I passed, and she was like,

Jesus Christ, and my dad was like, you shouldn't pass. Yeah, hitting the curb, I think, is an automatic fail. Yeah, no, I shouldn't have passed it, so I had no confidence, but also I didn't have driver's ed because I'm a city freak. So no one knows how to drive. But anyway, I'm fully committing. I'm putting this out there into the universe

of Giggly Squad so that like you guys could send me any guidance for like how to parallel park or something. Dare we ask like the exact date or like would that stress you out too much? Or like should we be manifesting for this like specific date? True, I love how you're like we can get a lot of power and a lot of gigglers. Like no we The floor is yours. The girls are listening. The girls are listening. Let's go. Let's combine our powers. The witches are ready

Yeah, I might i'm trying to find an earlier date, but right now it's in july So it might change but i'll keep you guys posted but also I'm now committed now to be a student of the game. Like this isn't about winning or losing, this is about the process, this is about the journey. And I want to be one with the car. I'm looking at it in a completely different perspective. I'm not here to win, I'm here to... Let the car guide you.

Yep. Yes, let the car guide me through life and I have no fear and I love driving. Can I ask what is your least favorite thing that you're trying to like master and what is the thing that you're like I got I can do this one? To be honest like I like driving I don't like the idea of sitting down and a person watching you and grading you and I low- feel like it's rooting against me. Like I feel like they don't want me to succeed in life

and I'm like, and they love that power. Well, there's a lot of power in their position. So much fucking power. And also like, let's be honest, I'm a woman. I'm a woman who can't drive. They're literally club bouncers of the government. You know, like it's like, okay dude, you could be fired at any time, but also you do hold a lot of power

in this exact moment. Is their job important? A thousand percent. Totally. And should I be on the road? Absolutely not. But I'm actually training, I love how I'm talking about training, like I saw Coco Goff wrote,

I will win the French Open like 500 times in her notebook, so I'm gonna write, I will pass my road test. Cause it's like the same thing. I'm gonna write it I will win the French Open like 500 times in her notebook. So I'm gonna write I will pass my road test Because it's like the same thing. I'm gonna write it honestly talking about cheerleading camp and road test this episode is just like it's But I also feel like it explains I don't like following the rules So a road test is literally can you follow every rule and every cell inside me wants to be like, like just turn, like one of the roads. How are your three point turns? Honestly, like they're fine. It's just, I don't know, like should I be going faster?

Should I be going slower? Like, I just feel like I'm not good enough. I'm not good enough for anyone. Are you parallel parking? I parallel park today, but whenever I do it, I feel like it's luck. Yeah. Like I feel like. I haven't I feel like it's luck. Yeah. Like I feel like-

I haven't parallel parked since my road test. Yeah. If someone told me to parallel park right now, I wouldn't go. Wait, side note, one summer house memory, I do have to say, was early on our first season. I remember like everyone else was like getting into like storylines and fights and like,

I had nothing going on and then so But other people were like having his back at first and he was like side note fucking Hannah never drives every weekend everyone drives but Hannah and I start looking around and someone else is like actually yeah you never fucking drive and I go I don't even have my license and they're like still it's not fair you don't drive and I remember you jumped in and you were like do you all want to die this is a perfect example of how things went so hana-coded or so page-coded because in this exact I remember this like it was literally yesterday in this exact fight

Everyone's attacking you for never having driven to the Hamptons any weekend of the summer and I'm like first of all she's Incompetent she doesn't have a license of all, I had also never driven a weekend and no one picked up on it. And you only have a license. I had a license at that point for almost 15 years and I never drove. I remember having to defend myself for not driving when I didn't have a driver's license,

a four hour drive to the Hamptons through highways. Okay, I'm gonna be honest, the only man that I ever listened to is my father. And when he heard that I was going to have to drive to the Hamptons every weekend, he said, I don't give a fuck. You are not driving on the LIE at rush hour on a Friday. I don't care if you're a good driver. I know you're not you're not do like you'll kill everyone in the car including yourself sorry I care about

safety and he was a hundred percent right actually I actually can't believe legally that that's even allowed driving out to the Hamptons was so stressful because you were thinking about like okay what happened this last weekend what am I gonna say it was it was like a scary mental thing and traffic isn't good for your mental health. No, the Long Island Expressway is like literally one of the most dangerous fucking highways. I feel like in the country, it's like four, it's four lanes. It's, it goes fast as fuck. Like if you're not alert,

driving to the Hamptons you're getting in an accident. Like you have to fully be present if you're not alert driving to the Hamptons, you're getting in an accident. Like you have to fully be present when you're driving. Also the cars we were driving were huge and I don't know a lot about driving, but it's like, unless you have a trucker's license, I don't feel like you'll be that comfortable. No, I was, it took me years to be like, okay, I'll drive because I was so scared.

Side note, I'm drinking my Dunkin' Ice refresher and I just have to say, I nailed it with the flavor. What, yeah, what one is that? Mango pineapple lemonade, that's the one. I've been sippin' it the whole time. Okay, I need to get that. I love anything mixed with a lemonade. Can I add one other thing to the docket?

Yeah. Why is the most organized our society has ever been when there's a lookalike contest in New York City? When and why did this take off and also should we do one at the next Giggly Squad Live? I love it but I just don't understand that New York... Also why is it all men? Are they trying to cure the male loneliness epidemic with each other? Because like, yeah, we're trying to put... We are trying to push you guys toward each other. The last time a girl said she looked like Megan Fox, she was stoned.

No. No, that poor woman was shredded. Girls are like, I'll pass. I'll pass on this. I'm blonde, but I'll pass. No, that's- People are unhinged. You just hit something about our society, though. You can't do it with the girls because people would be so mean to the women.

They'd be like, really? You think you look like her? Could you imagine someone hosting a Sabrina Carpenter look-alike? I mean, I'm not sure. I mean, I'm not sure. I mean, I'm not sure. I mean, I'm not sure. I mean, I'm not sure.

I mean, I'm not sure. I mean, I'm not sure. I mean, I'm not sure. I mean, I'm not sure. I mean to the women. They'd be like, really? You think you look like her? Could you imagine someone hosting a Sabrina Carpenter look-alike contest? They'd be annihilated. They also would be so tiny. For this look-alike stuff, it's chaos in this world. When they organize a lookalike contest, everyone is calm and there's a system and there's a ranking and there's voting. There's no fraud. There's no fake news.

It's just this is the lookalike contest. They follow the rules. They follow the rules. They always pick the right person. There's there's no politics, no bias. If anyone ever comments on any of my Instagram pictures like, oh my god you look like so-and- and so there's always a comment underneath From a woman that's like don't ever insult Audrey Hepburn who is class and elegance with this piece of literal truth I'm like whoa We actually you know what I get tagged in a lot and people are like I thought this was you Which is so on theme for this episode a lot of dance videos Like there I think there is this one day on which is so on theme for this episode, a lot of dance videos.

Like there, I think there is this one dancer that looks like Tentaclub. That looks like you. And she's phenomenal. And I'm like, every time I'm like, I wish this was me. And which brings me actually to my next point. I think for one of the things for like, now I'm like brainstorming for Hannah and Paige trying new things next year, or whenever we do it.

I think that we should learn like a legitimate dance routine. And do it on stage? No. Do it in the comfort of- Why would you learn it? For the satisfaction of learning it and recording it. Oh babe, I do it to perform. For performances. When we first started, I was like,

should we do a dance at the end? And you were like, never fucking bring that up again. I swear to God. And I never have. I'm never going out on, if you've never been to Giggly Squad Live, you should come because it's such a vibe. But just know this, I will never sing, dance,

or do anything theatrical. That's what you say, but also you said you would never get a cat and look where you are now. Okay, you started this episode with my boundaries and how proud you were of me, so let me have my boundaries. One thing about dancers though, I like am currently obsessed with finding like a dancer

that's on Broadway, who's like really beautiful and talented. And then like clicking on their profile. And I've done like, I'm like. You're obsessed with Broadway right now. I'm obsessed with Broadway, but also like just, I wanted to be a hip hop dancer in another life. Like you know the girls who have, who do the hip hop dances, like there's nothing cooler

than that. It's all I watch on TikTok. Yeah. These people are so cool. They all have like no followers, but like they're more cooler than that. It's all I watch on TikTok. These people are so cool. They all have like no followers, but like they're more talented than everyone. And then they're all like friends with the coolest people. Like all these hot dancers hang out with each other

and they're like, oh, like I'm going to dance like for the weekend, touring with the weekend, this weekend, then I'm with Lady Gaga next weekend. And then I'm on this Broadway show this weekend. And they're just like professional dancers are no fucking joke and they get zero respect but I'm scrolling through and like their lives seem like really cool for how much I rag on Broadway just because like I it's not like my most favorite form of entertainment it's

Broadway performers and comedians, I feel like, are very similar in terms of they do so many jobs on stage and they get zero accolades whatsoever. Like the fact that there's like Emmys and like standup comedy isn't in it. And obviously like they have the Tony Awards, but like to be a Broadway performer, you're singing, you're dancing, you're Broadway performer you're singing you're dancing

you're acting you're memorizing like if you're acting in a movie and you forget the lines there's someone there giving you the lines you're on Broadway you forget the line you're fucked. You know what's impressive about these dancers too is like they don't yeah they don't get any accolades they're not the star their job is to be in the background and they're not getting paid a lot and I'm like I respect that. Well job is to be in the background and they're not getting paid a lot. And I'm like, I respect that. Well, that's why watching the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders, you're like, wait, you guys are putting so much pressure

on these girls and you're also considering it a hobby. Like if you wanna put this much pressure and be this big of a fucking bitch to these literal 19, 22-year-old girls, like pay them more than $75 a week, you freaks. I do have to say big picture now that I'm getting older and I'm looking back on like, obviously when you're in jobs, when you're young and you want to prove yourself,

but there's a point with like corporate America where they're just like banking on who is gonna overwork and they give you more work and they don't give you raises. Well, I think Gen Z, I think we were kind of the last generation of that. Like we were the last, I feel like we were the last generation that woke up at 7 a.m., went to a corporate job, went to the gym after, ate dinner, and did it all again.

And then COVID hit, and then I feel like Gen Z was like, uh, yeah, no. They got out of college and they were like, cute, we're not doing that. They go, that's adorable for someone else, for a dumb millennial to do. Wait, I have a gripe. Why are bikinis sold separately, tops and bottoms,

when no one's mix and matching? I think you're wrong. I think they're sold separately because everyone's mix and matching top and bottom sizes. I think the majority of girls, I don't have this, unfortunately, have bigger boobs. And then like. Oh, for sizing.

Yeah, that's why they're sold separately. Any other brain busters, honey? You go next, next question. Are we still doing the thong bikinis in a public space? Oh my God, Hannah, wait. She literally had to reposition for this. I have to reposition. Have you seen this discourse on TikTok? No. Okay, there's this whole thing on TikTok where girls are like stop wearing thong bikinis to the beach and I disagree with you. I think, okay, the argument was women were like, my children are here.

I don't want my children seeing your asshole basically out. And then another girl goes, why don't you say the real reason because your kids don't notice you don't want your husband looking at some young girl who's in a thong bikini. There-hmm. There's a lot of perspectives, but I also would argue... So many perspectives. I would argue that everyone has different body types. Yes. And I have a fat ass. Yes.

It's like your friends who have big boobs, how like... They're more sexualized. Yeah, if you wear a certain top, it's like Paige looks so cute in that, where if another girl wears it, it's like, okay, you slutty whore. Yeah, it's like Paige looks so cute in that, where if another girl wears it, it's like, okay, you slutty whore. Yeah, it's giving sex symbol, yes. If I wear a thong to the beach, we're in a music video.

We're in a full music video. And I don't hate it. I don't hate it, but I'm not always in the mood to be sexualized. Like, I want a bikini that's, first of all, bring back tankinis. They're back. Bring them back. They're back, okay good.

Tankinis are back. And I want to, I want granny panties. I know you don't, I knew you wanted that. You want a full one piece, you're really like. Bring it back to the 60s, I want a full unitard. I want a t-shirt. You don't even want to show up to the beach in your bathing suit. You want to change there.

You want it 1950s style. I would wear like a wet t-shirt to in the pool with like a cute bottom. But like whoever decided we had to wear bras. Like I also don't like bras. I never wear bras. Why would I wear it to the beach? I think everything is situational. Am I showing up to a kid's birthday

with no bra and my ass out? How many kid's birthdays are you showing up to? She's like, on Mondays, I do kid's birthdays. You'd be surprised. Sometimes I'm a big head. Am I showing up to, like, a beach on vacation in on an island and a thong bikini and like my nipples hard?

Fuck yeah, I am. So like, I think everything really is situational. It can't. You didn't have to bring up hard nipples. Yeah, I don't know. Sorry. I'm feeling cheeky. It's 1130 in Italy.

I'm like, I'm just waking up. I don't wanna poke you in the eye with my hard ass nipple. Okay. like, I'm just waking up. She goes, I don't want to poke you in the eye with my hard ass nipple. Okay. No, I just think you can't, I feel like TikTok, it makes everything one big generalization. Like there's a time and place for everything.

I do think it's important for kids to see bodies. It's also like they don't, they aren't reacting to it. They're not sexualizing me. They're seven. They can't. Also, if they never see a butt and then one day they see a butt, that's gonna be weird. Yeah, and all, I think it's called exposure therapy.

Yeah, expose them first. Like I've never, as a child, I don't have one memory of going on vacation with my family and thinking about some person's body. Like right? No. Yeah, someone's like, oh yeah, Capri was really fun until that one woman showed

too much of her side boob. Are you talking about? Now, if I'm with a man and a hot young bombshell walks in front of us and she's got like an insane itsy bitsy teeny bikini on in my head Am I like he's definitely looking at her. Yeah, probably but like so am I like she looks great, you know You look over you make sure he's still straight No

We're segueing so good wait we have to end on this because i was talking to one of my friends about this this is so you know this is so crazy what if you're questioning if your boyfriend is gay or not and we've all been there okay we've all at least had one where we're like We've all at least had one where we're like, when he's going down on, when a guy is going down on you and you're laying down and you're on your back and he's going down on you, if his back is arched, not a good sign. Not a good sign. Their body should be down completely. Like full sniper mode, like all laying down.

If the bed is large enough and he's on his stomach, okay fine, but like, or it's like his knees should be on the ground. Like in no situation should his back ever be arched. Well, adding onto that, that's fucking genius. Adding onto that, any guy whose posture is too good in general Gay Your boyfriend's gay break up with them

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