Giggly Squad - Giggling about book press, tummy time, and mustaches

Episode Date: April 22, 2025

Hannah is trying to get her driver's license and Paige makes a bold statement about Hannah's fashion.order our booksubscribe to our youtubesign up for our newsletterAudio excerpt courtesy of Simon & Schuster Audio from HOW TO GIGGLE by Hannah Berner and Paige DeSorbo, read by the authors. Copyright © 2025 by Giggly Squad LLC. Used with permission of Simon & Schuster, Inc. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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So visit Oxeo.ca and get one month free at checkout with promo code GIGGLI. What's up, gigglers? Gary, fix your wifi. Manifest that shit. We can't be managed. I mean, the day just got away from me. What's up, my gilded age gigglers? We read now. We read, like, when was the gilded age? Too much. Too many questions. Yeah, what the hell? It's a Monday.

That was crazy. I thought you were talking about the TV show. I kind of was, but I was trying to reference our book that the girls are reading like it's... The only other activity. The girls are reading like the internet is out. The girls, by the way, have been tagging us. It's so funny who's page and Hannah coded. Like the page coded. No Hannah, it's hilarious.

The page coded book tags. There's flowers in the background. It's aesthetic. There's a candle lit. There's a Chanel book. Like someone's nail is in it. Yeah, like the Hannah's are like, here's my dog and my cup of coffee. And I got the book guys. And the dog is eating the book.

Yeah, this is so Hannah. And also the Hannah coated ones, they go crazy with the fonts on insta stories. They're wild with the fonts. The page fonts are the little, cute, tiny, adorable. One girl was like bedazzling her book and I was just like, oh, it's stunning. You guys, the response from the book has been fucking insane if you haven't got it. I was just saying it's number five in Amazon in all books,

which is crazy, because Amazon invented books. No. Books originated in the Gilded Age from Amazon.com. I feel like the kids don't know that enough. Like I don't think there's enough Gen Z that know that Amazon started as like that's where you got your textbooks. Jeff Bezos was a librarian. No, it's crazy now he looks like Vin Diesel. Vin Diesel we got put in the microwave.

I'm allowed to shit on Jeff Bezos. I feel like, yeah, why can't you. I'm allowed to shit on Jeff Bezos. I feel like, yeah, why can't you? I'm allowed to shit on all the billionaires that are trying to look like Justin Bieber now. I mean, pre, not Justin Bieber now, but Mark Zuckerberg, who looks like he's dropping an album. You know why we need to become billionaires? Why?

I mean, a plethora of reasons. You have to sell a couple more books. A plethora of reasons, but I think that we would be the world's first billionaires that like, well, no, I feel like Melinda Gates does a lot of really good stuff. But I feel like we would be the first billionaires to just be improving our sleep situation.

You know? You know, we're spending money where it really counts to us. And not- Let's just say when we got our mattress firm deal, we went off, okay? No. I've never been inside of a mattress firm more than when they were like, let's work together.

I was like, let's post up. I went like four times to try out beds because I literally couldn't make my mind up. And then I got one and I slept on it for like four nights and I was like, switch it out. And like, I mean, I worked with them, you know? Like we were texting. No, your mattress, like people who sleep well

don't murder people, you know the legally blonde quote. And not to sound like a lady of the night, but like I've gotten so many compliments on my mattress. I'm like, I think it's the whole, when someone says that to me, I'm like, I'm gonna be honest, thank you for that compliment. I love that, but I think it's the whole ambiance and you're actually selling it short.

My room is calm. Like it is very important to me that my bedroom has nothing to do with my outside life. So like I will not allow out- The chaos and the bad energy of my life to get into my bedroom that I bring into my bedroom. I almost need to hypnotize myself when I walk into my room to be like this.

You don't talk enough about how you realize you're the one that brought bad energy to your own function. You're sitting there alone and you were like, what's with the negative energy? You were like, it's just me and Daphne. And I'm like, do you feel that? Wait, one thing I learned this week about Daphne is I truly did birth this freaking cat

because when we're laying on the couch together, she's like fine, like she's on the ground sometimes, sometimes she's on the couch, but she's not ever snuggling with laying on the couch together, she's like fine, like she's on the ground sometimes, sometimes she's on the couch, but she's not ever snuggling with me on the couch. Like it's our own separate time. Yeah. Recently when we've been getting in the bed,

she's been getting like jacked up. Like I've been getting in bed earlier this past week because we had to get up so much earlier. And every time I got in at like eight o'clock, she's snuggling, like she's on my head, she's on my chest, she's like, this is so fun. And I'm just like, the fact that I realized this week that you love the bed.

Well, the funniest thing was we had to wake up at like seven a.m. for something and you said Daphne literally looked at you and was like, no. No. I'm not moving. I turned the lights on and it was as if I had like stolen her kittens because she gave me she opened one eye looked at me and was like are you fucking serious like turn the light off like I mom I knew that's what she was saying to me like turn the light off you idiot I was really busy last night running around and air puking and I need my full sleep.

But all the gigglers posting their pets in the background with their book is literally giving me life and I'm judging everyone's nails in a good way because I'm obsessed with people's nails. I'm like cute, love. And then people's rugs. Some girls out here have cute ass rugs. Well, because they're doing their rug

with their little coffee table. I'm obsessed now with the aesthetic. Well, you can thank the pages. Thank you to the pages. Okay for keeping your story viewing aesthetic. Well I think it's a tough job. What we did accidentally with the book is that it's a coffee table book that is funny. What other coffee table books make you laugh? Most of them give me FOMO. I'm like, I wish I was on the Amalfi Coast right now. Yeah, that's so true. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

What's like one takeaway from the book tour that you were just like, it's so crazy. That people have said to us? Yeah, or like, what was your favorite part? Or like, what was something that you were like, this is cool? I did have fun on Good Morning America. Yeah. It's so funny. I have so much fun when you don't

There's a pattern here I walked into good morning America Melinda Gates waves at us We have no idea who she is, but we're like what a sweet sweet woman We like her vibe we wave back and then I see Gino, who just won UConn's Women's Basketball NCAA Championship. So I'm like, Gino, I love you. You're like, who are you yelling at? I feel like you talk to so many people at Good Morning America.

And I was like. I work at Good Morning America. I was like, who is that? Then Michael Strahan was there and I was like, we love you, Michael. I see her page. Wait, I saw a video of that and I didn't even see him walk by

because me and Lara were in like such a deep convo. Yes, you guys were gossiping. I see Michael Strahan and I didn't even see him walk by because me and Lara were in such a deep convo. You guys were gossiping. I see Michael Strahan and I say, Michael, obsessed with you, he turns away. But then I realized from the other camera, he goes, love you guys too. So I was making friends with everyone that day. You truly were.

And that made me really happy. And then meeting the Gigglers has been so fun. That one girl was like, can I do the worm in Barnes and Nobles? And Barnes and Nobles is like, we're gonna have to ask you guys to leave. Yeah, they were like, it's not our typical crowd. No, people thought there was a Sephora sale going on at Barnes and Nobles. Me, me.

I literally got out of, I was driving by Barnes and Noble and like, if you see a line of girls and like you can tell what kind of girls, like I immediately am like, oh sample sale today. Like I wonder. Girls with taste and who are in the know and well read. I was like, I wonder what like, like spaces right there that there's like all these girls. And I was like, it's a lot of girls.

It's gotta be like a reformation sale or something. The bitches are lining up for aloe yoga. And then when I got out of the car and it was for us, I was like, there's just no way. I was like, guys, I thought it was a sample sale. You know, I used to hang out at Barnes and Nobles after school, like in midtown. That's like what the kids did.

You just like- No way. You'd sit in like between an aisle and like get a magazine. That is so emo. That's so New York City emo, I feel like. And it wasn't and get a magazine. That is so emo. That's so New York City emo, I feel like. And it wasn't in a mall. It was just a random Birds of Noble on the corner. But then you'd get a Starbucks and that? What was better than that?

What was better than your $8 Starbucks and you always got the most unhealthy one that you're gonna shit your pants immediately, but you're like, yeah, I got the vanilla strawberry extra fudge dessert. I feel like I missed that part of childhood. What were you, oh, you were modeling? No, I mean, we weren't, we couldn't just go places

by ourselves, we couldn't drive. No, New York was crazy, and we were allowed to do anything except drive. And to this day, I can't drive. I realize there's a lot of New Yorkers that can't drive. Me, Ashley Gavin, who's a comedian. Michael Che can't. I think we have to all unite.

Because I am past the point of getting my driver's license. I now have an emotional blockage. Actually, this is a PSA. Are there any gigglers that work at the DMV? Because I don't want you to cheat for me, but I just need you to hold my hand. This is borderline illegal. Is this, am I extorting the giggler?

This is literally bribing a public official. Don't tell anyone I said this. This is between us. But I just want a giggler in the vicinity while I do it to make me feel calmer. Because I feel like when I get in the car with them, they're rooting against you. And I don't like that energy.

If a giggler can tell me about my vagina I think a giggler can help us get you a license you know? Look I don't want to cheat but I would like some support. Yeah. I have a question though. When it comes to driving like I don't I truly don't think that you have to ever get your driver's license if you plan on living in New York City for the rest of your life. This is the problem. My parents are in Long Island, if I wanna see them.

Also, if I have children and I want them to go to soccer practice, I need it. Totally, but if you're in the city, you jump on the subway, you get in a car, if you're going out to Long Island like Unless uber goes away, but like I feel like you're a navigator Okay, I'm not trying to am I good for the environment yes, yeah, don't talk about that your carbon footprint zero No one talks about it

I'm out here doing hairspray campaigns. Hannah's not driving. You're the reason the ozone layer is broken. We even each other out. My only question is, and maybe this is just how my brain is wired, I think about living in New York City a lot in terms of like, if something were to happen, because we live in such a targeted city, everything runs in New York City. If something happened in New York City

where we had to get out, like we had to get out quick, or like you had to jump in a car, and like at some point someone was like, you have to drive. In that situation, do you think about that? Like, oh, what if something happened? Would I be able to, like, do you think in that situation, do you think about that? Oh, what if something happened? Would I be able to, do you think in that situation

you'd be able to do it? And if the answer is yes, then I don't think you ever need a license. And if the answer is no, I think you definitely. Well, shout out to all the people who have their license right now. But like, my grandpa didn't wanna bring him up. My grandpa was 92 out here in these streets,

while in, like I was gonna report that man. I was like, how does he have a license? Probably shouldn't have been. There's people who should not have licenses that have licenses. Totally, me. And for people who remember the past, I did pass it at one point,

except I hit the curb at the end and my dad didn't approve whatever long So short expired, but I do think That I get really bad anxiety and I envision myself failing. I have no positive self-talk with it And I just I'm I don't know what to do, but I think I have to get it this summer Okay, so it's a summer goal. You didn't answer the question though. In a time of crisis, would you be able to drive us over the George Washington, bitch?

Both my legs are broken. Both your hands are broken. And my hand, and I lost my hands. Okay, so in college in Wisconsin, where everyone drives, my teammate got out of the car to drop something off and I was just sitting in the car and a cop pulled over and was like, hey, you have to move your vehicle. And I looked at him and I was like.

And you're like, I'm a statue essentially. I can't and he's like, why? And I was like, but I was like too embarrassed to say it. And we had this very, I thought I was gonna get arrested. I was like, I'm a baby. Yeah, I know literally that's what you said. You're like, I can't. I'm a little baby, I thought I was gonna get arrested. I was like, I'm a baby. Yeah, I know, literally, that's what you said. You were like, I can't. I'm a little baby, I don't know.

And then I got my permit once and I was with a bunch of important adults and they needed me to drive something and I pretended that I could drive, but I was so scared. And did you drive? Yeah, but it was Shelter Island, so there's not one stop light, so it was Shelter Island so there's like not one stoplight. So you could do it. Yeah I could do it but like if you were like okay Hannah if you mess up this

parallel park everyone in your family dies my whole family's dead. Like they're gone. Okay I'm gonna tell you something I've never parallel parked once in my life. I parallel parked once on my road test when I was 16 and I'm 32. I fucked it up and he was like, you're fine, I know you know how to do it. But you didn't hit the curb. You didn't hit the curb, okay good. But I wasn't close to the curb. I was a problem in the opposite way.

You're going, I was the right kind of problem. I was in the middle of the street, I was like, this is fine. Wait, so technically you don't even have to do it. You could be like, just to duck the points. I didn't hit the curb because I didn't move the car. Can we move on? No, you have to do it.

You have to do it. I shouldn't be trying to get around it. This is not good. I will learn, but I have to take lessons. So that's also. Who wants to take over Zed? You guys, your ego's not your amigo. No.

And that's where I'm at right now. And that's where we're at. I'm fighting the good fight emotionally. One thing I wanted to bring up, because I was watching Righteous Gemstones, which is really- I have to get into it. Well, this is the last season, so it's fine.

But an actress that people, I feel like, don't talk about enough that's hilarious is Megan Mullally. Who is that? I'm Googling her right now. Okay, she was in, did you ever watch, What a good name. Will and Grace.

Oh yeah, she's like, come on. She was Karen, she was Karen in Will and Grace. Yeah, she has the best voice ever. And she's in this season of Gemstones. And like, every time I see her pop up in something, like she's in Parks and Recreation a lot. Like her husband is like the main, one of the main guys in Parks and Recreation a lot like her husband is like the main One of the main guys in Parkland her husband Nick Offerman. Yes

Got it. And sometimes he would she would go on Parks and Rec and like play his ex-wife Even though they were like married in real life. She's just so funny And I truly don't feel like people give her enough of flowers like she's Just as iconic as anyone else in that, in her, like of her peers. But like, I feel like no one ever talks about her. And so I just want to bring awareness to her. That show was incredible. And also I feel like made serious moves

for the gay community. No, I actually rewatched Will and Grace start to finish like a year ago. It's such a good sitcom. Like it's so funny now. I couldn't imagine how funny it was when it was on TV, like that early 2000s. Yeah.

So last week we're doing all this book press and Paige looks at me and she goes, that's weird, you don't have any gays on your team. And I was like, well the gays are in high demand and the best gays are currently busy right now. And she's like, explains a lot and walks away. And you have two gays on your team. Yeah, but when Lucio comes then it's like, I have three gays. your team. Yeah, but when Lucio comes, then it's like,

I have three gays. Yeah, Lucio's three. And so it was just an observation because I saw my gays huddled and chatting. And I'm like, the best gossip is probably happening in that little circle right now, but I'm working. I can't even go over to see what they're chatting about. And as I turned and looked at Hannah,

I was like, oh, she's by all women, which I'm also all women team too, but I just made the observation, oh, you don't have any gays. And you're like, I have all women, even though there's multiple male gays, but you're like, but it's all women. It's an all women team.

Well, there's no straight men in the vicinity. I would say there's probably women on my team who've made out with girls before. Okay, that counts. No, it doesn't count the same. So we're just gonna get you some gays. Well, we were in Fallon and we were trying to think of like good stories to tell and you wanted to tell

the story about how Radio City, they wanted, they asked us if we could come out from. The stage. The stage, but it was gonna cost $8,000. And I was like, who the fuck do you think we are? What's the name of the gay magician? And I looked at one of your gays, and he was like, why are you looking at me?

And I was like, who? I was like, who? And he goes, talk about Liberace, who's a musician, not a magician. He was like, first that was targeted, and second I knew that you got it wrong, and here's the answer. He goes, that was a hate crime,

this is actually what you wanted to hear. And then he helped you out at the end, because that's how the gays are. They'll read you, but then help. So anyway, I am in the lookout for a gay on my team. I just, I think it's important. Blakely Thornton is one of my best friends but he's very busy and he's busy he texts me sometimes ideas about my

career but I wouldn't say he's fully on the team. So that's something I will work on. What is wait I didn't ask you what is what's your favorite moment from the book press tour so far? What's your Rosen Thorhorn? Yeah, what's my Rosenthorn? I've been obsessed with my looks, there was one day. That's your answer, always. I did like my outfit. I did, because it is the first thing, I'm authentic. It is the first thing that pops into my head.

8 a.m. when Paige likes her outfit, she's gleaming. I'm like, what are you so fucking happy about? And she's like, my outfit. It's actually so bad. Like my whole mood is based on how I look. And I should really deal with that in therapy. Like dive into it. It's not good.

But it helps you also look good because if you don't look good, you wanna off yourself. You don't play good. You don't look good, you don't play good. And some would argue, it's not just like looking good every day. It's looking good on like good morning America. Like it's good, you don't play good. Yep. And some would argue it's not just like looking good every day, it's looking good on like Good Morning America.

Like it's stressful, you know? See, I'm taking risks. And when I don't nail it, I say you have to take a risk and... No, here's what people don't know about you, Hannah. And I'm here to like say it as a fashion icon, because I think that you are entering fashion icon territory you have fun you if you you really want to be like a Julia Fox type but you're like it's really not my brand so you go as far as you can go and feel

comfortable and like you're giving vibes you're not giving like Anna Wintour, like she put this together. You're giving like generation. Like people will look back and be like, what was going on fiscally? It was a recession. It's giving recession. I feel like I keep getting those TikToks

like recession indicators. Recession, Hannah in fake glasses everywhere. Hannah in Good Morning America in a sweater set. There is a recession approaching Hannah Berner wore lilac on morning TV. My thing is, if I'm gonna work with a stylist, I wanna put together something that I can't do on my own and I can't buy on my own and that'll be fun.

Like you know my favorite looks from this whole press tour of yours was when we went to Glamour Magazine. Oh my God, wait, I don't, you guys know I'm really good and I never go in the comments. Gugly Sweat posted one of the videos. We got on the wrong side of something. People were mad.

Why? They literally were like, Hannah needs to burn it. Hannah. Wait, are you kidding? Okay, here's the thing. They were mad at me. Your outfit for glamour was very New York City coded. Thank you.

Thank you. So yes, you're gonna get a lot of hate from Ohio over. Thank you. Thank you. So I don't, so yes, you're gonna get a lot of hate from Ohio over. Thank you. Okay, and I'm here to let you know it's fine. Wait, I love how you go, let me, as someone who's been through that. Let me hold your hand when I say this.

You don't want them to get it, okay? You don't want them to say great outfit. And I do have to say, I think the page coded girls are appreciating the work, the art. The page coded girls can appreciate the effort. The vision. And the risk.

Yes. You know, like these girls are out here with bangs and it's about to be summer. We like a risk, you know? Like we're not stable. Are you keeping the bangs for summer? Yeah, I love my bangs. You do?

I kind of want you one day to, this might, something, you might have to be really going through something, which you have, but I want you to cut really short ones. Short ones, oh yeah, you're always out to sabotage. But maybe they're fake, like just for a photo shoot. Maybe. I could do like, you know what I wanna do? Like I've always wanted to do it,

but I feel like honestly the reason I haven't is because I am scared people are gonna be like, oh my God, enough with her. But I wanna do a photo shoot. Society is always this close to that with women. Feel like if she posts one more thing. One more thing. If I accomplish one more thing, I'm actually done for. You've hit your quota babe. No I've literally hit my quota.

Also, it's not like you're like you got out of a relationship. Like let her live. No, like literally women get out of a relationship and they're like and I'll be president. I'm literally running for office. Wait now what was I gonna freaking say? Oh you were- wait rewind it Grace rewind it. You were gonna say fuck I wasn't listening to you. I wasn't listening to you. No you never listened to me. No I've never listened to you once. Shoot it'll come back. Oh you were saying at a photo shoot. Oh yeah I want to like recreate some of Audrey Hepburn's like most iconic look and like do a photo shoot and like but but I was like what I'm just gonna like do this photo shoot for nothing and then post the

pictures and people will be like okay for what? Well I think you do the photo shoot and then you keep it for like some press that comes and then go, I have the looks. Yeah, could it just be fun, whatever. Or you just do an Audrey Hepburn calendar. That's what they used to do back in the Gilded Age. They would do calendars for firefighters. And I'll mail it to my boyfriend. Yes, that's what you do, and your mom.

Yeah. No, the Audrey Hepburn. Maybe I'll do it for a birthday shoot or something. You with a pixie cut is gonna change the world. You just don't know it yet, but it's fine. I just think I'm a couple, like, as your best friend, I have a vision. I have a vision, but I can't force you to do things.

Right, that's so true. No, we know that. We know that. I have to do things on my own time. Yes, also with the photo shoots though, and I don't know if you feel this too, but you kind of feel like you have to keep out doing yourself. Totally.

So that's why I wore no pants this last photo shoot. I'm upset. I know why Playboy happens. You were like, if Paige can put a tie on and act like she thought of it, I can take my pants off. I think it actually wasn't planned. It was like I put on the top and then. You were literally getting dressed and you're like, whatever just do like one like this I know you I literally was like is this giving cunt. I

Mean you guys is this giving cunt? Here's the other thing Here's the other thing that I don't that people wouldn't necessarily know especially like If you don't live in New York City and you if you were one of the people that don't live in New York City and you didn't like Hannah's glamour outfits. Oh. Raise your hand. You just came. I'm just taking a poll.

Show yourselves. Show yourselves. Stand up. Go to the back of the class, Turn around forehead to the chalkboard. You're under arrest. What I need you guys to also know is Hannah is so creative. So like even at a photo shoot, you're coming up with like creative visions.

You're like, what if we did this? What if we hung from that and like three out of every ten ideas are like usable but you're coming up with them you know like you're so when you're at a photo shoot you're like oh let's just like try it with no pants I know what was happening behind the scenes there well that is so true that is how I play this game of life. I'm failing, failing, failing, failing. One success. Strike schools. This is what they say even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then. I would classify us as blind squirrels. We're just two blind squirrels trying to find some nuts. No, Hannah's literally got me on

cal-teen bars actually. There's always a peanut butter bar at somewhere in the vicinity. And if there's not, Grace is on her way to get a peanut butter bar. Okay, so we're obsessed with the peanut butter bars at Starbucks, which is like a full meal. The perfect bars, perfect. Perfect bars. And I was about to do one of the signings

and I was like, Grace, I need a peanut butter bar. But no, they are, but I was eating them like literal, like it was going out of style. And then Hannah goes, yeah, there's like 400 calories and these are like protein bars. It's a meal replacement. I go, a meal replacement? I've been having them as a sweet treat.

And then you yelled, and then you had a piece of peanut butter in your tooth while you were yelling, and Barnes and Noble shook, all the books started to shake. Also so giggly coated at Barnes and Noble, lactate came through with the best lactose free ice cream, 100% real milk, real dairy, so good.

I ate so much of it. No, it was so good to have a sweet treat after my hand was cramping and to hold something cold. You didn't care. I also left with two, yeah, I think I was like, I sit with the ice cream, figure it out. Also, if you head to at Lactaid on their Instagram, there's a Giggly Squad book, Sweep Stakes,

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No, poor Grace. Actually, Grace, this is the thing. Grace doesn't want this life. She doesn't want fame. She doesn't want to be at the forefront of anything. Abberts and Noble girls are coming up to us, barely making eye contact and saying, where's Grace? And I look and I say, Grace, I'm sorry.

This is what your life is now. So, Grace is getting very popular, despite the fact she doesn't want to. She's very scared. She's very scared, she's very, she's, here's the thing, she is shy, but she's not. Well, this is the thing, we can't fully understand it.

I look at her in the eye, I said, Grace, I will never understand what you're going through right now, because you're getting attention we can't fully understand it. I look at her in the eye, I say, Grace, I will never understand what you're going through right now. Because you're getting attention and you don't want it. So I don't even know where to begin with this conversation but I'm here for you, I will, what did they say? I respect you. What did they say in Wicked?

I will hold space for you. I wouldn't know. But when I see attention, I say, give me that. Yeah. But that's why we work so well together. Actually, this is a fun question. When you're home for a holiday, like, okay, for Easter, who was like at the dinner table?

Oh, okay, this was actually kind of sad. Okay. I didn't mean to do that. Okay. No, because my brother lives in Indiana now. Yeah. Wait, this is my first holiday without my brother. Wait, he went to his girlfriends?

Yeah. No, like life starts getting weird, and you realize like, oh my god, I took for granted every holiday. It was really weird. And you know when you're at the table with your brother and you're like, can we leave and play Nintendo? This sucks.

No, well I had to like, I always disappear at some point in like the evening and I was like, wait, I can't, they're gonna notice me. They're gonna see me? You're the only kid. You're the only kid. I mean, you are the favorite, but it comes with a lot of responsibility.

No, it was weird. Okay, so it's, so, so far it's you. So it was me. Normally it's my dad and papa, but they went to the other side of the families. We were very, this is also a thing, we're not very religious, so Easter's not on the top of our.

No, I feel like for everyone, Easter's not the biggest family celebration. Des had to do seller spots, so he was in the city. So it was literally me, my mom, my dad, and the cats. Wait, I love that. Okay, so say it's not. Say it's not. That's a pretty different dinner. Thank you so much for that small sad tale.

Wait, do you know I texted your mom yesterday? I should have known you were bored. Did you get jealous? No, because my mom was like, Hannah texted me Happy Easter. And then I was like, fuck. I have to text Lenore, and I literally forgot. No, you don't. I mean, my mom was waiting by the phone. Yeah.

She was checking it like a crush. I should have said to my mom, ooh, so you're not real friends. She wished you happy holidays. Do you wanna know how bored I was yesterday? I look at my mom and I go, can you teach me how to make braque le rabe with sausage pasta? This is my favorite dish that she's done my whole life

that I could have learned literally any day, but I've refused. And I said, you know what, we have nothing left. The world's about to end. Can I learn how to make this? Did she make it? So I cooked it with her and then I took a photo. Unlike Kim, when Kim tries to teach us how to cook,

my mom let me touch the food. Kim had no belief in us. No plans of letting us be judged. But I cooked sausage and broccoli rabe and the family liked it, no one died, and it was quite peaceful. Wait, I'm so proud of you. It was quite peaceful and nice.

Oh, so that's what you had for Easter. Okay, so say it's like your parents, you and Des, and interesting because Des is also like a standup comedian. So like when you're at like a normal dinner with your family. Oh, you wanna know your family, are you guys like performing? Like are you going back and forth? Cause here's your dad is also very funny. So like, is it like a constant?

Great question. And I think you'd know this cause you know me. I'm sitting back. Oh, okay. I'm not on payroll right now. Okay. I'm sitting back cause there's so many big personalities in my family. Nana is a star.

When Nana walks in, the energy changes. The energy changes, and Papa's holding her coat. It shifts. She literally does what you do, where she stands there, looks at me, waits for me to compliment her outfit, then tells me, oh no, I don't look as good as I used to look, keeps walking,

and then my dad jokes, jokes, jokes, jokes. Des, getting into it was about some deep, historical, political, smart thing that I don't know anything about, and I'm trying to find the cats. I got it, okay. What is your dynamic? It's the page show.

It's Amazon Live. I didn't know it was a letter. It's Amazon Live, but sometimes, okay, so when my brother is there, it's him and I back and forth, back and forth, like we're joking and sometimes it's, we're targeting them all at my dad, like we're just making fun of my dad or like. It's the roast of Gary DeSorba.

Yeah, it's like roasting, whatever. But I'm yapping, I probably yap the most I ever yap in my entire life when I'm like at the dinner table with my family because I can be the most I ever yap in my entire life when I'm at the dinner table with my family because I can be my most self. What if someone, Gary brought a girlfriend? Do you change the dynamic and ask her some questions or no? You go, this is my family. How dare you put me this?

You go, do you want me to lie to you? No, okay, Gary's current girlfriend right now I am obsessed with and I love. I was speaking general. He really didn't bring like that many girlfriends I feel like to like a dinner and like no, then I would like tone it down a little bit, but if it's my significant others

are like sitting at the table, my mom gets like a little where she's like, it's about you, it's about you. Like, are they gonna find you annoying? Oh, she goes, we're gonna need less. Yeah, maybe she's gonna get a word on. You're at a 12, I need you at a five. But it's my family, so I'm like,

I'm most comfortable here. Well, I just had a memory once I was in a car and it was a three hour car ride with my brother and a girlfriend at the time. And my dad and I yappin'. Yeah. Yappin', yappin'. And I might've made this up,

but I feel like she said something along the lines of, do you guys ever shut up? Yeah, totally. And I was like, this is my car with my dad. No, that's insane. Now, if I'm the guest, I'm at someone else's family, quiet as a mouse. You are.

Like we'll speak when spoken to, and if I feel comfortable enough to like throw in a joke here and there, I'll do it. But if one joke doesn't land, you're out. I'm quite reserved. Reserved. Yeah. See, at other people's houses, I'm anything they want me to be.

You're boring. I'm just gonna say you're a chameleon. I'm a chameleon. Remember when me and Ali came to visit your parents? Yeah. Ali, hysterical comedian, she immediately was given the room and I said I can sit back. Ali has taken that. No, you enjoyed your lunch. I enjoyed my lunch. Yeah, you sat. I love, I actually love being quiet. Yeah, you do. People don't know that about you enough, I feel like.

You do love being quiet. Cause when a camera comes in my direction. I have to, you don't, yeah, you don't. It makes me nervous. Cause I'm like, what are you thinking up in there? You're like what are you cooking up in your brain? That you're so quiet. Valid point, cause when I'm talking,

I'm telling you every single thought that's coming in my brain, so when I shut up you're like this has gone rogue. I'm like something's worrying her. Normally yes, normally yes. But that's why we love Grace, cause she keeps the flow going between the three of us. Oh, have you heard of adult tummy time?

No, but it sounds like something I'd be interested in. I'm surprised it hasn't hit your algorithm. On TikTok, there's a thing going around called adult tummy time, which is apparently good for your spine, because your spines are naturally curved. And from slouching, it reverses that curve and it's bad for you.

So if you lay on your stomach and a little bit upright like baby cobra, and you could still be on your phone. They say it's good for your posture. So a lot of adults are doing tummy time now. And you could also do choice time if you want. What's choice time? Do you remember when you were a kid

and you could decide just what you wanna do for the day? Choice time. And they were like, you have to nap. And you were like, no. I couldn't tell you the last time I had a choice. Oh God, I know. No, I know, I know. Oh, I do wanna say too,

since you've become a performer and you perform all the time, sometimes it is hard to get out of the performance mindset. If you've been doing straight shows and then randomly you're at a dinner, you sometimes cannot turn it off. I told you I'll be doing crowd work at dinner and have to stop myself

because your brain is just doing it. You're like, you look at your mom and dad, you're like, how long have you guys been together? I go, what do you do for a living? You're like, you know what we do for a living. I go, okay, sassy in the front. You're like, now is that Lenore? With an E up there?

N-O-R-E? I go, why are you wearing that shirt? Why are you wearing that shirt? No, I'm so, if there's like a man in the vicinity, especially at a bar, if there's like boys, I'm immediately going. Yeah. But when we were doing morning TV,

I definitely had to be conscious because I was in performing mode. Oh, interesting. See, when we do morning TV, I have to be conscious because I was in performing mode. Oh, interesting. See, when we do morning TV, I have to be conscious not to swear. And I have to go a step further and be conscious about the context. Yes, and I have to be conscious.

You want to know what- Of my context. I have to be conscious of you, making sure you're conscious. But then I also have to be conscious. I, making sure you're conscious. But then I also have to be conscious, I'm willy nilly with my legs. I'll sit there full vag open. Like I,

I get told way more than you to close my legs. And that, and that tries to parallel. And that's a metaphor. I do have to say I'm all about, I'm about women empowerment, so I loved your LaBia out. I thought you were doing it on purpose.

But yeah, Fallon, you showed up with a standing outfit. Yeah. You also had a standing outfit everywhere we went. When all your job was to sit in front of the camera. I was like, what if we stood? I do have to say I did go a little rogue on Today Show because Jenna Butchhager is so funny and I just wanna make her laugh.

Because Jenna's our friend. She's our best, like our best friend. So like going on Today Show doesn't, like going on Good Morning America, I was way more nervous. Going on the Today Show, I'm like, oh, we're literally going to Jenna's show. And they wanted us to riff.

They were like have you heard of this thing called It's Giving and I was like that's just me and Paige talking on a given day and they didn't give us any parameters. We love talking about the Today Show. They weren't like hey don't do this. Well we're obsessed with the Today Show, we're obsessed with our producer at the Today Show.

Obsessed gigglers, they just get it so then I feel a little too comfortable. I think it's important. I go in with a little fear When I oh, yeah, we were giggling remember we were giggling and I looked the guy I'm like, sorry We're drunk and he was like those are the good old days You're riffing with the crew. You're like this is I'm on production. Here's the thing every time we do a morning show I love it so much that I'm like, we gotta do a morning show. But like, if we had a legitimate morning, like we should give Jenna Fridays off because like she has a family, like she's tired,

she wants to like go to the- Should we extort Jenna for Friday? We're like, if you gave Giggly Squad just Fridays- Friday at like 11, maybe? Yeah, I'm like, wait, can we actually be the fifth hour? They're like, we don't have that. Yeah, let's just. Can we be the eighth hour?

I do think it would be so funny though if you and I had a morning show because it'd be like the anti-morning show. Like we'd literally be like, we don't wanna be awake either. Yeah, like I feel like we do, we would do like very minimal glam. And we would do it in pajamas.

Cause like that's crazy to not. And they're like, it's noon. And we're like, yeah. We're like, this is our hour. Why don't you zip it? We were with Tyra, who, I mean, TV icon. I watched all of those seasons. She's, I've never seen her in person.

Her face, doesn't age. Her face looks exactly the way it looks like when you were watching Top Model on TV. I couldn't get over, I was like wait, but you look like they plucked you out of the TV and just put you right here. Well she's been in Australia and they have very good water there.

Oh, do you think? I just made that up. Oh. You were like, well I'm going to Australia. I was like, oh my god. Gotta catch a flight. But they were showing the braided necktie, which, shout out to my stylist,

don't know why we haven't done it yet, pretty sure I've texted her 80 times saying I wanna do a hair tie. But I said this is me after a full winter of not shaving. Tyra, not happy about it. No she was. She wasn't? She went oh.

See you were laughing too hard to realize. You were slapping your knee. I love it whenever you realize. You were slapping your knee. I love it whenever you say. You were slapping, because you're an enabler. But here's the thing, that's morning TV. That's why it's so easy to go and be funny on morning TV. They have to laugh at you no matter what you say, because it's like, it's not the nightly news.

The nightly news, they have to be mean. They have to be stern. And they have to scare you. Yeah, morning TV, they're easing you into it. Fun. Yeah. You guys know I'm obsessed with home decor and I want home furnishings that are versatile, with everyday style, modern, adaptable, worry-free.

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Okay. What? I was about to be like, I can't think of anything, I had a yours is. Okay. What? I was about to be like, I can't think of anything, I had a great time. I know exactly what yours is, Bec. I know exactly what yours is. What? This thing about Paige, I know she seems confident,

but she's a quitter. She would quit everything if I wasn't there, okay? We're, all our job is to sign like maybe 30 more books before we can leave Barnes & Noble Hannah, don't you even get me started 30 more books. First of all, she's having trouble with her Sharpie, which I get it. That's frustrating But then she starts getting negative and she's like you guys she gets the voice you guys I can't my hands hurting my hand like My hands started

You thought you had a rigor mortis in your hand My hand started... You thought you had a rigor mortis in your hand. I'm signing. I go, sign it lighter. Like I don't want to tell you. You go so fast. I'm signing. I'm enjoying this.

I think it's therapeutic. She's literally having a mental break. I'm like, guys, you can't. Timmerbuck. I can't sign it. And I look at her. My hand went... I said, you're fucking embarrassing me in front of Mr. Noble.

You're going to sign this book and you're going to fucking... I'm going to sign it. I'm going to sign it. I'm going to sign it. I'm going to sign it. I'm going to sign it. I'm going to sign it. I'm going to sign it. I'm going to sign it. I'm going to sign it. I'm going to sign it. I look at her, I said, I said, you're fucking embarrassing me in front of Mr. Noble.

You're gonna sign this book, and you're gonna fucking suck it up. I'll get you an Advalafter, okay? No! Smile. My fingers! I'm going to near them. My fingers went like, crayons! I couldn't move! You're being so dramatic. Just know this, you've been scammed because Hannah signs her freaking initials, okay,

and I sign full out name and she goes, well you should have changed your signature before we agreed to sign 2000 books. I look over, she's bleeding, she's crying. I said, can you just use your left hand? Like I don't know what to say. I started to get a headache from my fake glasses. I like. We also have like 20 people there who are like,

their only job is to get us to sign these books and pages are like flailing. I said, I can't. I literally can't. So that was your thorn. So that was my thorn. There was one day where I was like so tan. Oh, and everyone kept asking about

where'd you get your tan and you were like, it's real. I was like, ooh. No, because I went to Miami, so I already was so tan, but I was peeling. So I was like, oh, let, because I went to Miami, so I already was so tan, but I was peeling, so I was like, oh, let me just throw a little fake tan on where I'm peeling. I mean, I looked purple.

It was too dark. But you also were peeling, which honestly, it was one of the more relatable moments you've ever had. I peeled all over New York this week. My skin, my DNA. Anyone could frame me for murder this week. I mean, it's everywhere. Oh, Kim is stressed out now.

So stressed. I realized something bad about myself. And tell me if I'm wrong. Okay. I realized. Nope, spot on. Tell me if I'm off. Okay. I realize. Nope, spot on. Tell me if I'm off. You're like, you're not off.

I realized that if I was a man, I would have a mustache. Oh man. Because I- Wait, wait, I'm gonna take it one step further. I'm gonna say you'd have like a quirky mustache. Okay, I was a gay man in a past life. Yep, yep.

When I do crowd work and there's a man with a mustache in the front row, I literally lick my lips. I say, what are you overcompensating for? You boring loser. What's going on? And I go in on them, but then I realize like, I'm a man with a mustache, because I would be like bored and I like to-

A standalone? Are you talking standalone stash? Yeah. Like porn director stash. Yeah, like no beard. Because a beard is like boring, and then clean face is too try hard. So you're saying it's clean face with a mustache.

Yeah, like the kind of mustache you'd be like, okay, that's annoying, mustache you'd be like, okay, that's annoying. And I'd be like, I would be that guy. And that's why I think I was a woman in this life. Yeah, see, I'd be the kind of guy that just had like the same lens froth all around. You get a haircut every Wednesday from a guy.

100%, I'd be getting shape ups. I'd be getting, what do they call them? There's like so many names. I feel like I know them. If we were both men, would we be best friends? I think so. What would really be that different about us? Like my hobbies, okay, obviously like my hobbies

would change, but I'd probably be just as enthusiastic for, what's the equivalent of fashion for guys? Imagine I just knew everything there was to know about golf. You also could be, I think you'd be into fashion, you'd have nice watches. You'd be very into watches. I'd be so into watches.

And your wallet would be nice, you'd have nice watches. You'd be very into watches. I'd be so into watches. And your wallet would be nice. You'd have a nice wallet. I'd have nice like excess, like manly accessories. You would have like a $200 pen. Holy fuck Hannah. Yes I would. I would be so into a ballpoint pen on my desk. And you would love, what do they put right here?

I'd love like a custom suit. I'd be like, yeah, this is fucking custom. Yeah, like my cuffling. Cuffling. My cuffling game would be nuts. I'd be like one of those guys that would be like, you should see my loafer game in the summer. Like I would say that exact phrase. I'd be like, me at a wedding is crazy.

You'd be at a beach wedding and be like, sorry, I can't go on the beach with these loafers. Yeah, I'd be like, me at a wedding is crazy. You'd be at a beach wedding and be like, sorry, I can't go on the beaches with these loafers. Yeah, I'd be like, my tux shoes, like, you guys could never. Wow, I'd be such a douche. I love it. But also, sorry, the Sierra, if I were a boy, it just started playing in my head. Because you are an artiste.

I'm an artiste, and that's what this pod is about, is just appreciate art. Appreciate art. It's subjective. It is subjective. What did you write about fake quotes? Oh my God. I just needed to say this because it's so crazy.

I don't know if it's like, if it's, I don't know what it is, if it's like, I don't know what it is, if it's like bots or like, if it's like people that get, I don't know what it is, but I keep seeing all these TikToks of like massive long quotes by me, but like I never said them. And some of them are so crazy and I'll go in the comments

and they'll be like, yup, exactly something she would say. Wait, like bad quotes? Yeah, and I have to type in it and be like, I didn't actually say this and I don't know how defamation works but I feel like this is kind of damaging. I didn't say any of this. Well, is it even saying the source? Is it from this podcast or just saying words?

No, it's just like, it will be a random TikTok account and it'll be like quote from page to Sorbo. And so then I'm like, Oh my God, did someone like pay someone to do that? Or is it like a bot or like, it's so scary. I hate to say it, but the algorithm does better when people write along paragraph because people have to stop to read it so it makes the videos do better. And then you're like a trending topic right now

because like you have- So people are just like making shit up? Yeah and that's why a lot of things become popular on the internet because if algorithmically something works, like when there's a scandal, everyone talks about it because those videos do better. It's not because they actually have honest takes or care about something.

It's so, so I just like, if I just- If you see anything I said, I didn't say it. Yeah, like if you see something, say something. It's so creepy. Oh my God, and it comes to your algorithm because they think you are gonna care. Yeah, there was like one quote and I was like, oh, what did I say? And then I'm reading quote and I was like, oh, what did I say?

And then I'm like reading it and I was like, I didn't say that. But can we be honest, have you ever done an interview and as you're reading what you said, you're like, that's not the tone I meant. 100%, 100%. I'm like, that was actually a joke and I was taking very seriously

and now everyone thinks it's very serious. But if it makes you feel better, I've been seeing a lot of very empowering quotes by you on my feed. Thank you, thank you. And my feed is very curated. To what I wanna see. Perfect.

Perfect, perfect, perfect, perfect. What are you watching? What am I watching? I'm watching the new Jon Hamm show. Oh my God, I started watching this show because my brother was watching it on my Prime. It's called Mobland with Tom Hardy and Pierce Brosnan. It's like the mafia in England.

It's so good. Oh wow, interesting. Sounds like something Killian Murphy would be in. Have you watched The Last of Us? No, is that that HBO show? You love it. I love it. And the second season just came out.

I can't do like post-apocalyptic. See, I love post-apocalyptic. It's so, I don't know, it's giving recession. You know what, you know why? Too realistic? No, I like watching shows that are pretty. Like I like seeing things that are pretty and there's nothing pretty in post-apocalyptic shows.

You would hate how ugly the zombies are. The zombies, because this specific zombie is basically like a massive yeast infection that keeps spreading. And their faces are literally like the yeast infection. Everything's like tan and dark green. Yeah. And dirty.

Like silo. Everything's like dusty. Yeah, you don't like get. No, but it's funny because you hate musicals which are beautiful. I'm multifaceted. You can't put me in a box. You can't put her in a box. You can't put her in a box.

Except if her box is out on morning TV every morning this last week. I was wearing vintage Mugler, okay? You were, and it was worth it. It was worth it. Anything else? I think that's it. Guys, the book is out and about.

She is out here in these streets. And if you've been thinking of buying it, your instincts are right. The feedback has been fucking incredible. And the way you guys have decorated around your house has been fucking incredible. And we just love you guys so much. And we do have an announcement for

something new that we are dropping exactly a week from today. Wow I'm so excited for that I made my whole family watch. Did they like it? Loved. I'm so excited I'm actually like trying to be patient but it's been really hard. So yeah we have something we're dropping soon, cause you know what? One thing about us, we're bringing it. We're gonna keep you guys fed. That's my only goal in life.

Thank you for giggling with us. We love you so much. Bye. And as a special treat, we're gonna play an excerpt from the audio book right now. We have trouble committing to a lot of things, such as every plan we've ever made. But a bit isn't one of them. Committing to a bit is one of the essential joys in life,

and truly the glue that keeps our friendship together. We do not do weekly Pilates, make dinner together, or take pottery classes. We do bits. So what the hell is a bit? There are all kinds of bits, but to us, it's an inside joke or phrase shared between people that's repeated often. Bits in your friendship can feel like your own silly little secret language to find humor in our sometimes harshly mundane existence.

To share a bit with someone is special and cute and means that you share the same sense of humor. Throughout this audiobook, there are going to be a lot of bits. We will discuss our old bits and probably come up with some new bits. Life is basically a bunch of naps and grill dinners with bits in between. You didn't think we were going to get so philosophical, did you? And Paige didn't even hit her weed pen yet. Whenever Paige is stressed, I pretend to hit a weed pen, and that's a bit.

Our first bit example, wow, writing a book is hard, pretends to hit Paige's weed pen. Humor is our secret sauce. Did the family dinner table conversation get a little too heated? Crack a joke. Feeling awkward on a night out? Make fun of the nearest guy in a backward hat. Our friendship is built on our shared sense of humor, as the best friendships often are. Whether you're going to college, starting a new job, or moving to a new city, finding someone who

shares your sense of humor is guaranteed to make the hard days more bearable. We even turned our humor into a career and now we're writing a book about it. If that doesn't convince you that we commit to bits then we don't know what will. We would also argue that if you see life as just a bunch of bits it can be easier to chase your dreams. Whenever you're scared to do something, stop taking life so seriously. It's just a bit. Wanna apply for a job you're unqualified for? That's a silly bit. Wanna go up to the hottest guy at the bar and speak in a British accent?

That's a multicultural bit. Wanna dye your hair platinum blonde for $30 at a student hair salon in college? That's just a cute purple shampoo bit. If you take your life too seriously, you will be afraid to put yourself out there. Don't worry about failure, embarrassment, or judgment. It's not that serious. When you mess up, your best friend will think it's hysterical. Did you know that Hannah got married because of a bit?

Yep, when Dez first picked up Hannah at the Shelter Island Ferry, she complained that she was late because of her dad's golf game. He responded, at least your parents are alive. Now, this was a particularly dark and risky bit to start off with on a first date. But in his wise old age, he knew that he did not have time to date someone without the same deranged, sick, dry sense of humor. It was love at first bit. Hannah immediately started giggling, and

that bit still holds strong in their relationship. Whenever Hannah gets upset about anything frivolous, Dez is quick to say, at least your parents are alive. Orphan bits can be romantic, too. After a couple dates, I was ready to test a bit on Dez. This bit can be used early in relationships to test a date's sense of humor and overall vibes. You have to make sure that he has paid for some dinners already, and then when it's

finally time to buy something cheap like coffee or a slice of pizza or a soda, you look at him with a sweet smile and say, I got this. When the cashier asks for your card, you give it to them and say in a distressed voice, he always makes me pay. And then wait for the reaction. Dez passed the test and laughed. If he hadn't gotten the bit, I would be a single mother to a colony of cats right now, which actually doesn't sound so bad.

A lot of people ask me, how did you get engaged? Or what did you say to get him to propose? Well, it really was a big bit. Only weeks into the relationship, Des joked that he was gonna marry me. So I joked back about what kind of ring I wanted. Every couple days I would randomly send him links to rings. At first this was hilarious. It was so out of pocket to send a man you just started dating engagement ring photos because all those books tell you that men are petrified of being pressured into

marriage. Well that means we have a great bit on our hands, folks. She started with small diamonds, then big diamonds, then eventually got up to the M. Rada double diamond ring, which he scoffed at. But one day, six months later, he got down on one knee with the perfect princess-cut diamond in platinum prongs and a gold band. Before saying yes, I truly wondered, is this a bit? The truth is that it was. Life is just full of bits, and some involve a prenup. Audible invites you to listen for the thrill.

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