Giggly Squad - Giggling about craigslist, con artists, and claw clips
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What's up gigglers?
Gary, fix the Wi-Fi.
Manifest that shit.
We can't be managed.
Okay, what's up, my garlic gigglers?
The energy's so different when we're in person.
I love that.
Oh, no, I love that.
She's like, there's a darkness.
I'm a toxicity.
I feel weird energy.
Yeah, no, it's magic and I missed you, baby.
I missed you.
How was your weekend?
My weekend was really fun.
My friend, Remy, who's in West Hampton with me.
text me and she's like come to a party.
And I was like, you know, I don't do parties.
Yeah.
And she was like, it's my mom's 70th birthday party.
I said, I will be there.
Yeah.
Because one thing about me is I love a mom's birthday.
I love mom's birthday.
I love a mother.
I love a summer.
I love old people getting drunk.
She's not old.
No.
People who like don't have kids anymore getting drunk.
Like their kids are out of the house.
You have a story to tell.
The stories that, so I show up, there's a flame,
a woman doing a
flamethrower thing.
Okay.
I mean, Remy went all out.
You can hire anyone to do anything.
Well, apparently the lady was like,
if you want me to eat the fire,
it's more money.
And Remy was like, yeah.
How much more?
How much more?
I'll give you everything I have.
Wait, did I tell you last summer
I hired a mermaid to come swim in a pool.
Yeah, and you were like the coolest aunt ever.
Yeah, I loved it.
Like for the rest of your life.
I think I have to think of something
for Labor Day weekend that I present.
How did you beat that?
I don't know.
I've been trying to like think
them's different things.
My new, I think I might rent an ice cream truck.
Yeah, that's cute as fun.
I think that's a cute one.
So yeah, I was, I partied.
They actually, this is so cute and I don't mean to blow up their spot, but they recreated
her wedding because it's a 35 year wedding anniversary.
It was luau themed.
What?
In Hawaii.
I have luos?
No.
Lays.
But like luau themed.
Yeah, I thought you just said wow themed.
I was like, what?
is what is. I was like, I don't know what that is, right. I love it. But everyone was wearing,
like, the same outfits they wore for the wedding and the same spot. They had the same wedding
cake. It was just so beautiful to see a couple that enjoy each other. Enjoy each other.
They're on housewives and they renewed their vows. So bad, oh, bad, bad, bad. This was
less renewing and more celebrating. And Edina, her mom. Do you know what, moms are just stars. Like,
she's star quality. Like, she could carry a room. She could carry a show if she had to. She was
at one point just wearing white, like in the middle of the dance floor, like a cult leader.
And I was like, whatever this bitch wants, I'm going to do.
Like, tell me, I was dancing.
I had so much fun.
So you went to a nice summer party.
A summer gathering.
That's what summer's for.
It really is.
How was your weekend?
Um, okay.
You know how likely sometimes you'll say something on the pod and then like after you're like,
no one's going to get it.
Like should I take it out?
Like that's not relatable.
Yeah, that's really niche.
And people will be like, oh my God, I feel the same.
or like that's exactly what I've done that, whatever.
And then there are times where you say something and you're like, everyone gets this.
You don't even like give it a second thought.
And then like my DMs will be, nope, we've never felt that.
Don't you say something?
You're like, I'm a relatable queen and then it's just crickets.
So last week when I was like, anytime I do a butt exercise, my vagina hurts.
Like thinking just like everyone in Pilates class was feeling the same thing.
Like, wow, it's really hurting.
my entire DMs were doctors and physical therapists being like, you have a pelvic,
you have pelvic dysfunction.
Like everyone had the same name.
I was going to say to you privately later, but I was getting doctors as well being like,
hey.
She was, everyone was like, you have to go to an ortho, like, pelvis.
But this is one thing about it.
First of all, is it pelvis or pelvic?
I think both.
It's like goose keys.
It's like, goosey.
One is the floral.
My pelvis.
Bro, I have no, I've been doing Pilates for years now.
No fucking clue what a pelvis is.
I think I have a tilted one.
And, okay, then I'm like,
Everyone's tilted?
Then I'm, like, looking up stuff about, like, pelvic dysfunction.
Is it scoliosis again?
Well, there's, like, different exercises, but, like, the overall theme is, like,
your whole body's tense.
Like, it was basically, like, maybe take a breath once in a while, you uptight bitch.
It's, like, really the overall, like, how to get rid of it.
It's like take a deep breath from your stomach.
By the way, 95% of our problems on this pot is because we have high functioning anxiety disorder.
Yeah.
My jaw.
Your pelvic cry.
Also, I see like these weird men doing exercises that like look like doing like circular exercises
release sciatica stuff.
Yeah.
All men have sciatica.
And so do I.
Yeah.
Do you?
I don't know, but I don't not have sciatica.
Yeah, that's true.
I mean, the lower left side of my back always has like a tinge.
Yeah.
Like someone DM me and she was like no one should feel like they have to get a massage every week.
Oh, you go, sorry?
What happened to self care?
Sorry for living lavish.
Sorry for treating myself once in a while.
You know what it is also?
Like I feel like it's your time to have intimacy without having to talk to anyone.
Like intimacy with myself?
Well, half the time I fall asleep.
Okay, that's interesting.
Like when you go to the nail salon and she holds you for like three seconds and you're like,
I needed that.
I needed that.
That's so true.
I don't even give it a second thought when I know someone's going to touch me intimately for a beauty treatment.
You love it.
Except I haven't gotten my vagina lasered.
So that's the only thing that I'm like, that's too intimate.
It's scary.
It's scary.
And I don't.
It's like laser done.
It's summer.
I don't have the time.
Okay.
I have a couple of things I'd like to go.
over. One, something that like caught me, like something that just made me wonder, you know,
like, you know, like you're on your computer at like midnight. You're like, you can't sleep and you're
just like doing things. So every night. Yeah. How are I going to bed and night? Yeah. You're just doing stuff
and you get like a random thought like about like AI or just like, you know what no one's talks about is how now
our laptops like when we want to log into them like we just do like a fingerprint. Like if I want to
log into my Amazon account. I just like do my
fingerprint. I don't like it.
And like they took it off on the phone
because now it's like your eyes.
Like it's facial recognition.
Why do you think they took it off the phone?
I don't know. I liked it on the phone.
Yeah, because I felt like I was a spy. It was also way easier to go through
someone else's phone.
If it was just a finger phone.
Now they could just put their thumb.
While they were sleeping? Yeah. You are a spy.
Yeah.
I'm a spy.
But now they have to be awake.
I can't go over.
I've tried to do it with a picture.
Like hold my phone to a phone.
Wait, wait.
I thought you're,
it's because I'm mad at AII.
I know.
You're mad because it's harder for you to check people's phones.
I'm just not loving the extra steps.
They're like,
is this good for the environment?
What about the trees?
Okay, my next weird thing that I thought in the middle of the night.
I have these really weird thoughts.
in the middle of the night, and then the next day I have to execute them or like,
I'm like, well, it was the point of having that thought.
Yeah.
So one night I was like, what if I'm in a rush and I have to grab kitty and like I don't
have all of her stuff?
I need a, no, no, no.
You mean like her Louis Vuitton bag?
I need an emergency kitty bag.
Like, how do I not have?
Your anxiety is like, should be studied because it's so cute.
You're like, I can't go to sleep without me.
A caraway bag from my beautiful guy.
I have a navy blue canvas bag that says Daphne on it from Alex Mill.
It has inside portable, like, rubber things that I keep her food in.
Then I have a second one for her water.
And canned foods in case there's an apocalypse.
Then I have a travel.
Yep, two canned foods.
Then I have a travel litter box already filled with litter.
It never been touched.
You're more prepared for your cats made up emergency than I.
I am to just like start my day.
What if someone invites her away for the weekend?
And she's, we have to go.
True.
What if I'm like, oh my God, I have to get on a flight in an hour.
I have to bring Daphne, but I don't have any of her stuff ready.
Yeah.
So anyway, that's something else I worked on over the weekend.
Another thing I worked on over the weekend was I watched the Michael Jackson movie.
Oh, I haven't watched it.
I just watched the Michael Jackson documentary on Netflix.
I feel like every time they do a biopic, I get so excited.
and then I watch it and I'm like, why did you pick that time in their life?
Like, I feel like that's the most boring time.
Like, way crazy your shit happened in their lifetime and we're not.
Was it his come up?
It was from like when he was a little kid to when he like put out thriller.
Okay.
So then when everything got like fucking crazy, they were like, we forgot.
Let's not touch it.
Let's not touch it.
My biggest takeaway from it is child labor.
Yeah, the trauma that happened in that home.
And they don't really.
They give it to you in like media literacy.
Like you can tell that the trauma happened in this home.
We're not going through.
We're not going into it.
Read between the lines.
This is the vibe.
And they also make the dad like really scary looking because his eyes are like so piercing
blue that it's like just like gives devil evil.
So like they he played an amazing character.
But it's yeah, it's very like there's a lot of trauma here and I would assume it explains a lot.
If I was from a family that, like, the dad was like, you all are going to be amazing at something.
Yeah.
And, like, really was traumatized by, like, the intensity of it.
And I didn't even become the star of the family.
Oh, you're like the other brothers in the Jackson Five.
I'd be pissed.
I mean, I think he takes care of them.
But I'd be like, wait, so why did I go through all that torture if Michael was just going to be, like, headlining MSD?
Well, the dad, like, tries to keep them as a group.
But Michael is.
freakishly more talented.
Freakishly more talented and like genius level.
Like they do show him like writing all of his own songs like in the middle of the night
and he would just like come up with these dance ideas and like, he's like, I need to try this.
He definitely was a genius.
My dad's calling me.
Of some sort.
Okay.
A good comparison is they, the movie a couple years ago about Serena and Beannis Williams.
That dad intense, but you didn't get the vibe that he like,
physically was abusive to the girls.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He also, like, the girls wanted it.
Like, the girls were in on it with him.
But Michael, I feel like he wanted it.
Well, yes, but he was so young.
Like, it's all he knew.
Yeah.
It's like, do you want to be a star or?
But then you're, but then you do feel like, yeah, he loves it because it is all he knows.
But did you know that his head caught on fire?
Like, that's how the movie ends.
What?
Oh.
When he's, like, doing a Pepsi commercial.
Okay, was that?
It's very, you got to watch it.
What was it?
I don't care about spoiling the endings of like real movies.
You died.
No, it was like some like pyro something.
Yeah.
I can't believe I just said pyro.
Is that right?
That is a hundred percent right.
Pyro-technic.
That was so, look at you getting into different fields.
Okay, gigglers, before we get back to the chaos, we need to get something off our chest.
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No, I'm president of our book club.
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Yes.
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I'm the last thing on my docket today?
Wait, you're, you've never come more prepared with your docket.
I'm wearing a cardigan.
Yeah.
Look alive, I'm wearing a matching cardigan set.
Look a lot.
The last thing I want to talk about is, have you seen the YSL makeup debate?
That hasn't come across my algorithm.
I love when our algorithms are different.
Buckle up for this.
Yeah.
There's a man.
He works at a job.
Allegedly.
Doubt it.
He works at a job.
He's at his job.
They do some type of, like, a raffer.
give away something.
He wins an entire basket of YSL makeup.
His wife is at home, I think postpartum or even pregnant.
Grace, will you do me a favor and look up the YSL wife?
He gives the basket of YSL makeup to his female co-worker.
The wife, I'm pretty sure, like, makes a video about it.
That's how, like, we know about it.
And the internet is kind of like, mm-mm, mm-mm.
What was the wife's take in her?
I'm pretty sure the wife was like, hello, like what about me at home vibe?
So she's complaining?
Yeah.
She's basically like girls, am I being crazy?
Yes.
Yes.
Which is one of my favorite phrases to hear from anyone on the plane.
It could be anyone.
If a girl says, am I being crazy?
Hey, are you crazy for a second?
I already know she's not crazy because she's even aware that she might be being crazy,
which makes you not crazy.
Yeah, and then give me everything.
And that's being a girl's girl.
Yeah.
Wait, I can't say my lips.
Girls go.
The claw.
My take is men are stupid, but if my boyfriend, husband, partner is in a situation and something
that I would like comes up in conversation or whatever, and I'm not the first thing
that pops into his mind, weird.
Who else are you thinking of?
Yep.
So, like, there is a situation where he gets presented this, like, basket of YSL makeup,
and he's like, I don't know what the fuck to do with it.
And their girl is sitting right next to him and he's, like, here.
Yeah, they could be small-minded like that.
Like that.
Like, yeah, like, I got nervous, whatever.
But you would want your husband to win this basket and think, oh, my wife at home is going to love it.
For sure.
Yeah.
For sure.
Also, it brings me to my next topic, which is, like, the essence of, like, a work wife.
I'll slit your throat with a knife.
Don't ever.
I'm not trying to start drama,
but there's TikTok videos of like the guy
with the like happiest family
coming up to you in the morning
and being like,
I like a shirt.
What, I can't tell you I like your shirt?
Like just being so flirty at the office.
I'll kill everyone.
I would kill everyone.
Also, if someone's husband
came up to me in the office and said that,
I'm DMing you.
You're being immediately.
DM in you immediately.
I'm telling you.
9-1-1.
Yeah.
The problem is the office
is like this microcosm
of its own world.
Now single people,
workwife, all you want.
Work husband, it.
I thought workwife was like
when you have a gay,
when he's gay.
Like I'm his workwife.
It's because of the places we've worked.
Or he's my work wife.
Yeah, true.
We've only worked in like marketing.
Yeah, we've only worked in happy gay places.
Yeah, I worked in sales,
but I would hang out with the marketing team
because the sales guys
really crazy scary. I'm really scared.
I was so scared. I just hung out with the social media team. I've never bought a single thing
from a man ever. Also, I was so good at sales and they literally, this is such a good callback.
They said to me, all that girl does is giggle. Because I'd be on the phone giggling.
Manifested it for us. Clearly, at some point I'm asking for the sale because the money's coming in,
baby. Yeah. But I was being pleasant.
You got to break them down, ease with the joke. I was buttering them up. Yeah. With a little...
Would you sell again? I didn't know.
No, I was selling
Um
Hat
SEO for small businesses.
What?
It was very complicated.
I thought you were selling shirts and hats.
Oh, that was another time.
Oh, oh, okay.
That was another time.
But I was like cold calling,
but I didn't like cold calling
because I'm an empath.
So I didn't want to like ruin someone's day.
So if they did answer,
I'd be like,
I don't do it.
I couldn't,
I could never take a job
where I have to be on the phone.
Like any type of customer service,
I would.
I did a lot of emailing.
though, which the boys didn't see.
So I'd be just like emailing, emailing.
I was good at it, except I just hated asking people for stuff.
Like, it's a lot to constantly be like, gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme.
Like, I'm a creator.
Yeah.
I want to create.
Yeah.
So that's why I'd hang out with the social media.
You don't know.
You know, like, even when, like, remember in middle school, you'd have to do, like, what were,
remember you'd have to, like, sell wrapping paper randomly?
The school would be, like, go home and sell this.
What was that?
Go home and sell this to your friends.
family and people would like compete.
I think it was like ultimately for the school.
Yeah.
Who knows where the money actually goes?
Did you sell.
I forget what I was going to say about that.
Do you sell cookies for the, for the Girl Scouts?
Yeah, but like I wasn't like getting into it.
Like if my family was around, like, and if they wanted thinments, yeah, write your name
on the goddamn sheet.
But I'm not going door to door.
People are going out of house and home to get samos.
Samoas.
But no, I'm not.
I'm not like actively.
Yeah.
I never participated.
Yeah.
That was one thing that I was like not competitive about.
I was like uncouth.
I feel like.
Yeah.
No, no.
I was like knocking out my neighbor's door and bothering them.
No, it's insane.
To sell them shiny wrapping paper.
Yeah.
I think that I did it because my dad was like if you could do co-cong sales,
you could do anything in life.
So I was, I had that like mentality.
Wait, what in 90s?
No, I know.
He was like coffees for clothes.
And I still was like very entrenched.
You were like seven and he was like always be closing.
That's literally my dad.
That was really me and my dad.
And I was doing it and immediately, you know, after college when you have your first job and you're like, this can't be what I do forever.
This is crazy.
Yeah.
But then I used all that stuff to help like sell my ideas.
Yeah.
Sell myself.
Like we have to sell ourselves every day.
We sell our bodies.
I sell my IP.
Like I sell my thoughts.
All my...
But selling yourself is so valuable.
Like, I love an interview.
I love a first date.
I love the idea of me.
Small doses of me is fucking perfect.
Wait, that's...
Small doses of anyone is perfect.
When you first get my energy and you get it for like 20 minutes and I leave,
people are like, what a pleasant, joyful experience.
Do you know that that's just my goal in all of life?
to just have 20 minutes with each person that they can walk away and be like, fine.
And we don't have to get any deeper than that.
Obviously, we're doing long-form content here, but it's because me and you bring out the best
in each other.
Yeah, well, we're different.
That's chemistry.
Actually, speaking of promoting yourself, I went.
One of my favorite dot-bots.
One of my favorite hobbies.
I went to the Teen Vogue summer school thing.
Wait, I went to the Teen Vogue.
Oh, not Team Vogue.
The Teen Vogue.
The Teen Vogue.
The Teen Vogue.
The party.
That's what it was in my head.
Who does a Cheen Vogue after party?
My hair's blue.
I went to the Vogue summer school one of their sessions.
We're like in an auditorium and I, like, they sent me some questions before and I didn't
like prepare where I had like written answers in my phone because I was talking to like a
bunch of high school kids.
Like it wasn't like they were getting into like nitty gritty.
like Daphne
Excel sheet.
I don't know.
I don't even know what they could ask.
If a smart person was in front of me,
couldn't even fathom what they would ask me
about the business.
So I like looked,
glance at the questions, whatever.
I got out there looking at like the sea
of like majority girls,
some guys and like young.
Like they were like 15, 16 years old.
I couldn't stop being like,
I'm so proud of you guys.
I'm so proud that you're like even thinking about your career because it was I got a little
emotional in my own body and like my head not like physically because I was like we really don't
realize that we talk to girls every single week and they really take what we say sometimes to heart
and they should take it with a grain of salt but that's that's neither here nor there so then to see
that it because when do we ever really see that it? Because when do we ever really see?
a group of 16 year old girls.
One, I'd be terrified, but, like, we're never really presented with that.
I was getting ice cream the other day, and there was a group of them that came, and I was, like,
punch her in the face.
I will say, I was, like, a little nervous when I first walked in there, and then I was
like, page you're 33.
They think you're old as fuck.
They probably want to know how many kids you're at.
Like, I need them to, like, think I'm funny and cool.
Like, I'm so embarrassing around 16-year-olds.
No, and I just thought of, like, myself at that age, and I said, I was like, the scariest
part, I think, of starting your career is like right when you get out of college and you're,
you have that first job and you're like, this isn't, this couldn't be my job forever. And I was like,
in the fact that you're doing this and already thinking about what you want to do career-wise
and what you want to do for internships, like it's just so important and I just couldn't.
I love talking to schools. Yeah, I was like, I can't express enough how important it is to be
independent and like not be thinking of. You're like when a guy wants to fly you to Monarch,
go and like you get on the goddamn plane but I also think in your 20s you feel old which is so
crazy but if you think about it teenagers literally were infants like a second ago like your brain is not
fully formed and people are telling you you have to know what you do for a living in my head I was
like half these girls are here because they have anxiety of like what am I doing like where am I doing
for college and like what is my major and stuff and I and I tried to emphasize like it's gonna work out you just
keep working towards your goal.
But also not to completely change my mind on what I just said of like there's no idea,
know where you're going to know what you're going to do.
When you're little, you know what you're going to do.
Like you know it in your gut.
You know it in your gut.
And it's almost like as society like beats it out of you and you forget.
You know what's so embarrassing.
In seventh grade, I was in drama class.
Of course.
And drama class.
I saw TikTok about this how it's like you have a normal school and then you walk by
drama class and the kids are like chucking himself around and screaming.
and crying and laughing.
Like,
well, our drama class was crazy.
Like,
and it was considered, like,
really serious.
I, like, only did it, like,
one year.
No, no, no.
This was a specialized
performing school in Brooklyn,
New York,
and Mr. McAnney,
he was a teacher.
Jeremy Allen White was in my class.
Right.
Stars were being born in that class.
And, like,
it was competitive.
And he would,
we weren't just doing, like,
a play.
He would write his own play each year.
And that's when I played.
Summer Heights High.
That's when I played it 100%.
I played an Irish pregnant prostitute.
In middle school?
Yeah, because it was about the potato famine.
And I was pregnant because I was a prostitute.
And you can't get an abortion in Ireland.
It's called history.
How old were you, really?
High school or middle school?
I was 11.
And this was going on in Brooklyn, New York.
This is really...
So anyway, there was a comedy, like, section.
of this class and they did like a screenwriting competition and if like you won then they like put
you to like whatever i don't know but i wrote a comedy and my comedy won stop wait we need your mom to
find it we have but like back then like computers and save anything i think she tried because
but anyway long story short then like i got really into tennis da-da-da but like in my heart of
hearts i wanted to just like write funny stuff isn't that beautiful that's beautiful and like from
a young age you knew you wanted to put together office yeah I knew I wanted to just like be vain
you know it's like I love pretty things I like looking at them every now and then I see a comment and
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to be like I'm not like other girls yeah be like girls that's my pink aura yes also because of
random reasons maybe it's my mouth TikTok who knows
personal things yeah people become gigglers every day yeah and someone was like I feel like bad that
I'm like a new giggler and I'm like behind and I just want to say we're behind we are haven't even
been brought up to speed but it's so cute because the gigglers are so supportive of each other because they'll be
welcome you should probably start with this episode and like we love you here but like we just want to say everyone
it's kind of the equivalent of like what picture does like my ex show people of
me where it's like what episodes are the girls.
We've never thought of that.
Suggesting that like is the essence of us.
Yeah.
You know?
And I guess it's kind of like starting becoming friends with a friend group who's
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Yeah.
They're like doing all their little stuff.
But we're on a bachelorette party and it's like this is my new friend from adulthood
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I'm about to turn 35 next month.
I know.
I was thinking about it the other day because I saw some...
You're still going to be friends with me?
Yeah, I am.
I just don't know what to get you.
You know what I want something vintage.
I know.
And cute that I could like tell a story and be like Paige got this for me.
Maybe I can find something that's 35 years old.
I don't like that.
You know, it's funny because when I turned 30, I was like, I'm not going to care about turning 40,
but I'm already thinking about it and I do care.
Well, that's because one thing about it.
your anxiety is it's ahead of its time.
No, it's quick.
Mine is, she's quick.
And I'll forget about things quickly, which is nice.
But it just means there's something new on the horizon.
Like this morning, perfect example.
This morning I'm getting dressed.
And I put this cardigan on and I go, I have a yellow miniskirt that's this color.
Where is it?
So I have a list in my phone of things that I can't find.
And they're lonely and you're worried that they're lonely somewhere scared without you.
Well, I'm just like, I lost them.
They think I threw it out.
I didn't throw it out.
It was by accident.
Mental health moment?
All those thoughts that you have in the middle of the night that you're like,
you think of and you're like,
how have I not been dealing with this all day?
Why is this coming to me in the middle of the night?
Like this is the biggest thing in my life right now.
Those thoughts aren't real.
Emergency bag is very real.
Try to just be like, I'll deal with this in the morning and then don't.
But do you write it down to remember it at a later date?
No, because I don't trust the dark voices.
Okay.
That come through my psyche.
Okay.
The next time you text me and say,
hey, do you and Kitty want to go to the Hamptons?
I'll say getting in the car
because I'm packed and ready.
Wait, I got into Mahjong K-hole.
I play Mahjong on my phone,
not real mahjong,
like just the like,
I got really worked up
because I couldn't get past a level
next day it was 3 a.m.
Oh, but I can't shop on Amazon at 3 a.m.
But you can learn a whole new sport.
I never said you can't shop on Amazon.
I said, stop making up lies
and then causing yourself heart palpitation.
No, sometimes.
Maybe your pelvis would be better.
I will think of something and I'll be like,
if I don't go to my phone right now and order it on Amazon,
like, I'll freak out.
Yeah.
That's not good.
I have a question.
Yeah.
And everyone's been wondering it.
Continue.
I wanted to show you these shoes because I feel like they're very you've coated.
Why don't you pull that out so swiftly?
Because my foot is right.
Was it in your pocket?
Like, what the fuck?
My foot's right here.
Should you pulled it out of your ear?
I did present it like a magician.
Like I had.
It's like when you take out a panini, you always do that. You always do it like with your,
oops, lost my dog. I love presenting things to you in like a really cohesive manner.
Well, those are cute. I feel like these are such a you shoe. Are they for wide feet?
It's a ballet flat, but it has like a little bit of a heel. So like changes your whole vibe in like jeans without being.
like flat to the ground it's aldo right or what is it it's in it oh everyone wants to know
is your hair in a side part or a middle part right now it's sunday afternoon so i'm actually not
in charge and it's illegal that i'm even here it's none of your business actually yeah it's
actually none of your business because i'm being thrown it kind of starts he wants me to be a certain
way and and millennials want me to be a certain way and I do like to do both up on the same day.
She's fluid.
She's versed.
I like to do a middle part for like starting out and then you have a sunglass on your head
or you're in a conversation and you just, you side it up.
You know why I'm stressed when like you're hanging out with me at home and I have my
hair tie on my wrist and my hair keeps going up and then going down and then going up and then going
down. What is that called? You know, I've replaced that with big claw clips because I find the
reason I'm taking it out of the hair tie is because it's falling. And I don't like the sensation of that
or like feeling like it was on top of my head or it's like too tight. Do you big, do you have a big claw clips?
So claw clips I do like. This is the nitty gritty that we need to get into. No, wait. I'm actually
about to get into real nitty gritty. Yeah, because they're not all created equal. And the problem with
claw clips is that you can't sit back.
Like you're in the car, you can't sit back your head.
You're watching TV.
You can't sit back.
So in the girl, you...
But sometimes I find it comfortable if you're under something and it purchases you up almost.
Oh, like it hits a certain, like, acupuncture point.
And you're like, oh, that feels kind of nice.
Yeah, like, sometimes it helps.
But I have scoliosis.
The only thing that helps my scoliosis is a claw clip in the back of my cranium.
I keep getting clips of, like, people with real scoliosis.
Do you want to apologize to the community?
Yeah, I do because I'm not making light because mine is like non-existent.
Some people like are really in pain.
I just thought scoliosis was going to be more rampant or people just don't talk about it.
I feel like people aren't talking about it.
But you know what people are talking about.
Girls are inventing claw clips that are soft so that when you push your head back it like closed.
So this is where the scientific research is going into.
Is it like made of rubber?
I think so. So they're working on that, changing the game with that. Oh, did you watch that documentary?
Did you watch that documentary? I started it. I haven't finished. So because I'm like learning from my past
mistakes, I'm not going to tell you guys what happened, even though you know I want to so bad. But I watched half of it and I actually
convinced myself that I could move on from it. No, no, no. Because you would tell me the ending. But the thing is the
thrill of this is you think it's done halfway and then it throws you. Do you want to be surprised by
me or by the screen while you're watching your phone? Well, how long has it been out for?
A week? Yeah, you. Okay, get me out of her. Get my to her. So what's that about? You start. You start.
I stopped at the girlfriend is pregnant. She's calling the cops because the ex-girlfriend is
joccing her, sending her like crazy emails.
She tried to send a guy to come to her house and sexually assault her.
And the police just went to the ex-girlfriend's house and the ex-girlfriend's like,
what are you talking about?
Incredible setup.
And also I just want to mention, this is so fucked up.
They're saying that the ex-girlfriend is putting Craigslist ads saying, I want to be essayed.
Yes, pretending to be the current girlfriend.
And giving the current girlfriend's house and a dress, basically being like, I'm going to fight, I'm going to say no.
Keep going.
This is role play.
Keep going.
So that's the most sinister thing I've ever heard in my life.
And they were just like, we're warming up.
Also, Craigslist isn't regulated.
Like, you can just go on the internet.
The fun thing about Craigslist is like, I fully can find a great apartment there.
Like, I found so many apartments on Craigslist.
I can also find a man in a bunny costume willing to do anything.
No one has the Oscar range of Craigslist and no one talks about it.
Also, Craigslist is like we're never updating our website and there's something beautiful about that.
And I feel like only fans had this like insane glow up of like they had articles after articles.
They had spokespersons.
They had faces of Onlyfans and it's like Craigslist has been around.
Zero PR.
Zero PR and you could essentially do the exact same thing.
It's just a written forum.
What's great about this documentary is I love how it.
can control your biases,
pelvice, pelvis,
because you can...
I hate the word biopic.
It sounds like a biopsy.
Yeah, like I...
Then that just reminded me of it.
I hate when people say biopic.
Biopic makes it scientific.
I'm like, it's not.
I'm like, shut off.
It's a movie.
No, it's like a film.
It's a film.
Yeah, it's a movie.
Okay, keep going.
So she also, wait, I hate to say it.
I thought the guys were gay.
You know me.
I think...
So, like, I don't even show.
question it at this point. I'm like, whatever you're saying, sure, we'll go with that.
Like, who am I? The whole time you're like, this fucking crazy ex-girlfriend is trying to ruin the
new girlfriend's life. And you're like, these crazy ex-girlfriends. But one thing we know is when someone
calls an ex-girlfriend crazy, there's a lot of the time more to the story. Yes, there's more to
the story. There's more to the story. So the cop finally goes up to, um, the ex-girlfriend's house.
and it's like you're being arrested for the emails.
Yeah.
And the girl goes,
I know it was like a bad email I was going through a time.
And immediately in my head I was like,
she wouldn't admit to it if she did it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
She was admitting to probably sending a post-breakup email
where you're like, go fuck yourself kind of thing.
Very therapeutic.
Therapeutic, recommended.
I wish I could find some old ones that I've gotten.
One night in my...
One night in my middle of the night, like computer siege, I tried to find like old ones from like college in my email, but I couldn't.
I feel like I have like crazy Facebook messages and paragraphs.
So immediately I'm like something's wrong.
But the girl is just like, yeah, I was going through a really difficult time.
It was crazy.
So she sounds like she's admitting to it.
She's like, I had a psychosis.
And I was like, okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
Happens to the best of us.
We're taking accountability and we're moving on.
Let's stop.
We found the problem.
We next the problem.
Let's move.
Great.
So the second half goes into who is this new pregnant girlfriend.
In her past, she's faked cancer, which is a certain mental illness that I'm seeing in a lot of documentaries right now.
I wonder what that is.
The faking pregnancy, the faking cancer.
The Clayton Bachelor podcast is about the same thing.
There's a certain mental illness where you love lying about.
Like sympathy.
You love like sympathy.
Yeah.
And pregnancy is like under it.
Because when you're pregnant, everyone has to treat you differently.
Same with cancer.
Same with like injury, faking.
Yeah.
That kind of stuff.
So I'm like, okay, she's one of these.
So she, they literally filmed the boyfriend realizing that she doesn't have cancer and that she's,
and that she's not pregnant.
Okay.
Because she was saying she was, uh, who, whatever.
She has an intervention.
And she's like, I'm leaving.
Can we just say one thing?
How dumb are these men?
Like, I feel like it's really hard to fake pregnancy.
Well, maternal instinct also.
She faked a pregnancy.
She was 50 weeks pregnant at one point.
There's a physical evidence.
Like if you say cancer, okay, no one can see it inside your body.
But again, there's a stomach right there.
Like you said about the YSL man.
they don't think big picture.
They're like, she said she's pregnant.
I got to go.
You guys don't brush past each other in the bathroom?
Like, what are you talking about?
Like, this would, like, here's how I know.
You just turned it to Gary.
No, because I'm just going to say, none of these people are Italian.
Because what do you mean?
They're not.
They're not Italian.
You haven't hugged and you couldn't feel that was a pillow.
They're not Italian.
Anyway, I keep telling.
But I do think with technology, they probably have some good fake.
pregnancy bellies on Amazon.
You know, I actually wore one on like an episode of Winter House.
It was, don't, we really, we had run out of themes.
We legit say we had run out of themes.
I just say I wasn't there to speak up.
I had disassociated so hard.
I actually wasn't there.
I said, sure, this is what we're doing now.
She leaves that relationship.
And what's great about the con artist is they love to reappear.
like in a slightly different neighborhood.
Yeah.
With a different hair color.
She went from blonde to brunette and I was like,
I've never seen this bitch before.
And at the end of the day, we're all just girls.
We're all just girls.
And it's like when you know your mom's getting older,
we're all just girls.
At the end of the day,
con artist won't feel pretty.
But you start, smile,
you start like envisioning her like,
okay, so is she behind it all?
Is she, one, is she pregnant?
Two, did she just want,
did she hate the ex-girlfriend?
And she felt like,
the ex-girlfriend was always going to be in her life.
But the guy was like, I haven't talked to my ex-girlfriend, like...
But the thing is the ex-girlfriend owns his condo.
Oh, right, okay.
The ex-girlfriend owns the condo that they're living in.
So long story short is something weird.
I miss that part.
But also, also, every time the cops come, this is, I do have to say,
someone needs to give an award to, um, what do the cameras they have outside of your house?
Ring cameras?
Ring cameras.
Yeah.
And cop cameras.
Remember when?
are doing the grunt work.
Wait, remember during the Super Bowl?
Ring camera made that crazy commercial and they were like,
hey, we're going to track everything.
And everyone was like, I don't think so.
Do you remember that?
They were like, you're going to be able to connect to your neighbors.
Oh.
Like ring cameras to see if you had a,
like we're going to be able to see, take pictures or whatever and like find your missing dog.
And everyone was like, no.
Don't love that.
But incredible for a Netflix documentary.
Yeah.
Because you're just seeing the footage.
So, but every time they come in, the husband's really worked up.
Like the husband's like, this fucking bitch, that's how he talks.
He's like, this fucking bitch keeps sending us crazy messages.
And the girl's explaining and then they're both on their computers.
Like, it's giving they're in it together.
It's giving like they're sending it to themselves.
Yeah.
But then they find out that this girl is faking her pregnancy.
Mm-hmm.
The girlfriend.
Yeah.
So then he goes to the police and he's like, I'm sleeping with the enemy.
I don't trust anything about her.
How do you find out?
The cops told him, I think.
Okay.
So now you're like, okay, it's all this crazy girlfriend.
But you're like, now we have an ex-girlfriend in jail.
Can someone check up on her?
The ex-girlfriend sits down and goes, I need to tell you about this man.
And I go, finally, some juice.
What?
She goes, let me tell about this man I dated and why I was in a psychosis.
So apparently, first of all, he's a Disney adult, which is pleasant for many people.
I didn't like it coming from him.
And she was like a very wholesome person.
I guess he wanted his bell.
I try not to judge.
No, Disney adults for women.
Cute.
Different.
I'm not even going to say cute, but like different.
Do your thing, girl.
You're on your own journey and we support it.
Have a hobby.
Men being Disney adults?
On their own, not part of a family.
A single man is a Disney adult.
I'm calling the police.
Don't come here.
My children.
I'll tell you that.
100%.
So he's like, you're my bell.
And she's like, okay.
And then, but she's really like,
kind of prude and sweet,
like doesn't do drugs and whatever.
So they move in together.
For some reason,
she buys the condo,
which I don't love,
because it's not like she had money.
She was like,
I'm broke,
but I got us this condo.
I'm like,
I don't like that.
But anyway,
then he starts asking her,
I want to see you hook up
with another man.
So my gator is going off.
No one mentioned it.
The whole documentary, I'm like, he wants to see a man.
A dick.
Yeah.
But I digress.
Yeah.
Again, you don't judge.
I don't judge.
And she's like, I'd actually like rather not.
She's like, ooh, that's actually the one part of.
Cool, cool.
I love that.
That we're getting creative.
Yeah.
I love brainstorming.
I'll be throwing ideas in and we'll pick which ones work.
But she was like, no.
Apparently every fucking day he was bringing it up to her.
Okay.
And he was like crazy controlling.
So he like is tracking.
her telling her what to wear how to act and she's young again she's like 10 years younger than
him she's 25 we're moldable yeah and finally she's like okay like i'll sleep with a man okay if you want me to
and she was just like traumatized by it she was like it's fucked up and eventually she has like
escape from him someone was visiting and she like ran out so like you know it's fucking bad yeah yeah yeah
and he's blowing up her phone all this stuff and she goes into like a fight or flight
psychosis.
Yeah.
And she was found like in the middle of a field.
I can't believe I haven't left somewhere in the middle of the night.
That's so me.
Yeah.
To be like, you know what?
I'm just going to leave.
I mean, I hope you don't ever have to.
But if you can, you'll be able to bring Daphne very fast.
That's one thing we know.
Well, that's one thing.
Daphne will be fine.
You never know.
You literally never know.
We found a page in a field, but her cat had a Louis Vuitton bag.
Daphne's like in a bed that has like four posts.
and we're just like on the sidewalk.
We're like, we're figuring it out.
Figuring it out.
It was an emergency.
Emergency move.
Anyway, okay, keep going.
So she was in a psychosis found by a Native American family.
And they were like, this girl needs help.
And then she kind of gets out of the psychosis and sends him an email.
It's basically like, go fuck yourself.
Yeah.
Okay, and that's the email.
She was like, sorry.
And I think in the email she said something kind of religious about like God is watching
or like something.
I hope so.
Actually, it doesn't seem like it.
It's getting crazy.
God was watching.
Yeah, it seems like he exed out of the tab accidentally.
God was too busy to deal with this stuff.
So I guess the girlfriend used words from her email to continue that voice.
But also it was crazy about.
I was thinking, but wasn't smart.
The emails that they're getting, I was like, how do they know it's the ex-girlfriend?
She was signing it, Michelle.
Perfect.
I'm like, if I was sending crazy email,
to someone. The one thing I, even that mom who's sending crazy text message, she's not signing it your mom.
Right. Like there's something mysterious about you not knowing who it's coming from this whole point. And they were like, Michelle, the shitty ex-girlfriend. That's how they were signing it. So that was fucking weird. So then you're like, wait, this guy, this is where multiple truths can be true. She's a con artist. Yeah. He's a psychopath.
Together. Perfect marriage. So who was sending the email? So they think they did research on the credos.
they think it was coming from him.
He was sending it to the girlfriend who was lying about being pregnant,
pretending to be his ex-girlfriend.
And I think she was in it.
And he, oh, guess what he used to get a guy to come over for, like, Craigslist?
How has Craigslist not been shut down?
Even for, like, a month.
Like, all PR's good PR.
Like, there's definitely been murders where people have met on,
I think because when it gets to the court, they're like, if you thought you were going to go on
Craigslist and have a good experience, that's on you baby. Craigslist has a phenomenal law team.
Whoever is in the law department there, because how many times have they probably had to
been like not liable? We've nothing to do with that. Because Craigslist, does, their whole business
theme is under promise over deliver. They never say they're going to be helpful.
No. It's probably like, we're stuff online. Like, I don't know. It's like, we're,
We're here.
They don't really involve us.
Bad things might happen.
That's their tagline.
So when something bad happens, they're like, that's, but if something good happens,
like you get a kitten from it, you're like, holy fuck, that was amazing, Craigslist.
But they're like, hey, we have a lot of bad qualities.
But sometimes we have good qualities.
Focus on them.
I would love their marketing meeting.
I'd love to be in it and be like, is this the month that we maybe update the font?
And someone's like, go fuck yourself.
Like something really bad happens on Craigslist.
they're like this month we're going to focus on apartments for sale like let's
also there's someone who sees all the stuff going on and quick at craigslist and is just like this
is another day at work no that's what i'm saying like i need to talk to someone who works at craigslist
who deals with like the weird shit there has to be a giggler at craigslist like and i'm sure like
they have to be getting called by the police a ton to like hey we think there's like a link between
someone that emailed someone also you know other sites they have to put so much like you're
not allowed to post this, that I'm pretty sure Craigslist is like, you could post whatever,
and no one really cares. Right. Like, does Craigless have an approval, like,
where you post something and then, like, they have to approve if that's okay, or it,
you can just post anything and it just shows up. I think he just post. And, like,
the creeps are very organized. Like, they're like, I'm looking for this, with this, with this.
They put it in wherever it has to be in the category, and they find each other. I literally
found three apartments at Crexas. It's really good in New York. Do you want to know?
I've never even typed in Craigslist before.
I don't even know what you're doing tonight.
I don't even know what you're doing at 3 a.m. tonight.
You're about to, whenever I wanted a kitten, I would go into Craigslist and be like,
orange kitten, bronch.
And you can shop and you can like.
The people literally just like put their cell phone number and you just text them and you're like,
hey, I like your kitten.
They're like, great.
They're like, great, come over.
Yeah.
But you know, in the 90s, we had a community.
I don't know if it was around the 90s.
Yeah.
That's the internet.
Yeah.
But, um, so yeah.
Okay, cool.
I actually am going to do like a deep dive on Craigslist.
Like, are people shopping for like, are, is there like vintage clothes on Craigs?
Yeah.
Like, is there a, like, like, if I went on and said, hey, I have this cat for sale.
Is Craigslist verifying that I have a cat for sale?
They can only do so much.
Let's not ask too much of Craig's.
Craigslist is with, is if Etsy and Street Easy and eBay had a really bad child.
Yeah, but eBay is.
eBay needs better PR.
You know what?
I think they need to update their font
and their color scheme.
Because eBay, though,
if you go on to buy
something vintage clothing-wise by eBay,
they're getting it first
and making sure it's right.
I've seen a lot of TikToks of girls
who have gotten like really crazy bags
from eBay that went through a whole approval process and stuff.
The Victoria Secret show.
We were like,
what if we wore vintage Victoria Secret?
And we found a $13 slip from eBay.
Yeah.
This is unsponsored.
Yeah.
But, um, but, um, but yeah, Craigslist, just have a little.
Just be where.
Yeah, just.
Craigslist is like that cousin that you only see like once in a while who's like,
every time you see them, they're like into something new and you're like, he smokes weed now.
Also, I love with like the girlies get really into Craigslist.
Do you knife or what?
I don't know.
Oh.
Maybe after this pod.
We'll see.
Let me just check my docket, make sure I didn't have anything else.
Yeah.
Well, I do have to say our merch.
We basically sold out, so we're ordering some more.
That's how it works.
Yeah.
So we ordered some more and it's available.
You're saying it like smores.
Some more.
No, I'm having issues with my mouth.
Sorry.
Some more.
Actually, some more is hard for me to say.
Oh, well, maybe that's a good thing for you to work on when you're like at home in bed.
You're like, maybe working on your own time.
Not on our professional podcast.
She goes, this is the Olympics.
Not your personal diary.
It's actually we draw the line at.
at that. Okay. Well, thank you for giggly with us. We'll talk to you guys later. Bye.
