Giggly Squad - Giggling about gay rodeos, club culture, and carpe diem

Episode Date: March 24, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:02 What's up gigglers? Gary, fix the Wi-Fi. Manifest that shit. We can't be managed. Got away from me? I had one literally so prepared. Gravitas. Oh, I love that one.
Starting point is 00:00:20 I don't know what it means. What's up my gravitas, gigglers? I feel like it's one of those words that's like... Does it mean free? No, that's... Gravitas. I feel like it's giving like... Live-lap.
Starting point is 00:00:30 Yeah. Millennials definitely put it on a pillow. Their day. which was my high school slogan, I think. Something about being green? Something about Celaivi. Yeah, that's what it is. Oh my God, millennials love.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Parpe Diem. Yes. Oh, my God. Put it on a poster in your room. I have a couple things I need to talk about. Thank you. I have been listed. Go off.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Where should I start? Where should I start? Let me start with something that happened last week because I forgot to talk about it when we were, because we were talking about so much South by Southwest. True. Did you see the video? of Kiki Palmer doing something at South by Southwest. I don't even know who she was interviewing.
Starting point is 00:01:10 She was interviewing like a cast of something. And a guy came up to the post, to the stage. Like walked up to the stage. Like normal in his 30s, good looking, dressed well, had like a lanyard on. Like he was supposed to be at, first of all, what is South by Southwest? No one knows. Also, if you have a lanyard, you could do anything. Do you know that when Lucho has his camera?
Starting point is 00:01:33 he goes, I can literally do anything. He has broken into so many things with me where they're like, you don't have another ticket. He's like, I have a camera. And he's like, I can do anything. It's really crazy. But anyway. She just make up a fake lanyard and walk anywhere.
Starting point is 00:01:47 So this man like has a lanyard. So he walks up to the stage and he, I'm not kidding, proposes to Kiki Palmer. And Kiki is like so professional and actually like too nice to this guy. The thing that pissed me off so badly was, remember when this happened to Drew Barrymore? Yes. And I think she was with Renee. And Renee Rap like had a bodyguard. Yes.
Starting point is 00:02:15 And the bodyguards ran out so quickly. No one ran out. No one. It took them like three minutes. And they were like so nice to this guy like, oh, can you move along? Like, you know, like this is. No. Tackle this man.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Tackle him. What are you talking about he's walking up and proposing to Kiki. Palmer. Well, that happened once in one of our shows, remember, someone got up and just started walking towards a stage and we both were immediately. I said, are you going to shoot me? And no security guard. No one said anything. But you wonder like what security is there for. It's definitely if someone starts like going towards the stage. Well, there's no protocol in which the audience has to be on or near the stage. Yeah. Unless whoever's on stage is like we're bringing someone up from the audience. So anyone moving toward the state tackle that person. I saw that like, but Kiki is famously like,
Starting point is 00:03:03 the nicest, coolest, most charismatic person, but she shouldn't have been in that position. One time I met her at the Today Show and she looked at me and she said, you look like I'm Marada. And then she walked away and I was like, I said, I love your pixie. I did a video with her back in the day when I was at Betches. I love her. She's amazing. People don't praise her enough that she's like, so multi-talented. She can do anything.
Starting point is 00:03:30 But she's one of those that, like, is so talented that I think people haven't caught up. Like, guys, she was a singer. Hello. She was in a spelling bee. Yeah. So anyway, that annoyed me. I digress. But also, you have to, when the whole audience is there, you can't suddenly be like,
Starting point is 00:03:46 bro, shut the fuck up. Like, you have to be nice. Well, even, like, the people that she was interviewing, they were like, almost like joking. And I was like, no, this guy could whip a gun out. That's, like, stalker shit. Leave Kiki Palmer alone. Speaking of mentally ill. This is a great segue.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Okay. We rarely have. And I rarely watch something that you've already talked about because I'm like, why watch it? My friend watched it as she told me about it. I watched the Manosphere. It is so deeply, mentally unwell. Like, I'm watching it and the guy, what's his name?
Starting point is 00:04:21 Whatever. Louis Thoreau. He's interviewing these men. And I'm like, why isn't anyone breaking the news to them that they're mentally ill and they have to go on medicine and see a doctor or call their dad or one phone call to your dad might eliminate this. The one guy also the one guy that like lives in Miami and has red hair. Yeah. Get a boyfriend babe, babe. Just one man. Just see you've obviously already hooked up with man. I actually don't even have to say that. But maybe date one like fully and you wouldn't have
Starting point is 00:04:59 to terrorize everyone you meet. Here's the other thing. the other guy when they bring in the mom and he's like changes his whole rhetoric because the mom looks at him and is like who raised you and then the one guy whose wife came in and and he got all scared and was like please cut her part well they're all fake con men they're all so dumb too any guy that has to say they're manly is not manly any guy who has to say they're a nice guy is not a nice guy you're doing all of this to like make money and like but you don't you're you're influencing an entire generation of men who are, their brains are not formed and won't be till their 40s. And it's really scary. And Genzi is so scary. And they're blaming the fact that
Starting point is 00:05:46 they're failing on women. They're saying society is like created for the men to fail because of the women. I'm like, have you heard of the patriarchy? Read a history book. Everything is set up for you guys. Go do one job interview. You guys set it up in 17. 100 you guys did this you're complaining about the patriarchy that you're in charge of it's so it was so freaky and so scary and weird and it's also i think they almost like envy women so much they want to like emulate them and do things that we like this man was like he's never going to get invited to miami on a yacht it's like okay they're so mad that girls get free drinks he's like he's like She can go on a yacht with a hot guy. It's like, do you want to go with a hot guy? Because we'll tag you in.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Do you want to suck dick on a yacht? Literally, anytime I've ever been invited anywhere by a man, I've brought other friends. Like, you could come with me. It was one of the scariest documentaries I think I've ever watched, actually. I'm in like a RuPaul K-hole still. Yeah. Which is why I haven't had any new documentary updates. But one of the mini challenges or challenges they have is they brought in,
Starting point is 00:07:02 Gay rodeo. Okay. Now, gay rodeo. I swear. Anyone who says this podcast isn't informative has literally never listened to a single episode. So by the way, I cry every episode of RuPaul Drag Race. Like, you think you're not going to. Everyone's crying the whole time.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Okay. So a bunch of these like really manly rodeo men come in. And you find out they're all gay. And they're all like, I was afraid to come out because rodeo is so masculine and homophobic. Yeah. So like they were like, if I. I came out as gay, the rodeo wouldn't accept me. So they created their own.
Starting point is 00:07:38 By the way, the rodeo is gay. Rodeo is gay, by the way. Just a bunch of men riding each other. Watch Yellowstone and shut off. Also, you're wearing heels with a pointed toe. Like, there's no idea. You've been accessorizing with belts and hats for years. We know you're gay, babe.
Starting point is 00:07:57 You're wearing belts with decorations on them and showing them off. I think the same with like, the WWE, like, oh, the prize is a belt? Like, like, she's. Also, it's the only sport that rodeo were meant for like, we need to wear jeans. I'm like, you don't need to wear jeans. And they're like, that's my aesthetic. They're like, no, we do.
Starting point is 00:08:18 No other sport do you wear jeans. Anyway, wait, that's so interesting to the crowd. Like, other sports, like, polo doesn't wear jeans. Why are they in their, like, their favorite, like, Levi's? No, they, like, really lean into, like, the aesthetic of their sports. Like if you said to me, gun to my head, I talked about guns a lot. You are like, you're so much violence. Yeah, I'm so much violence.
Starting point is 00:08:41 If you said gun to my head, what do they do in the rodeo? I would die. I've watched it once accidentally at a bar because I'll get into any sport. It's insane. They just get thrown off a bull that doesn't want them on their back. Like, Peter's not happy. Like, Peter's like, clearly they don't want you writing them. Honestly, you know what it is?
Starting point is 00:09:00 It's just like no consent. It's just men like with no consent. The Bulls literally like, hey, can we not do this? And they're like, well, I'm going to kick you off if you try. And the guy's like, I'm going to try. And he's like, well, I'm going to kick you off. That's a sport. But so these gay rodeo guys created this gay rodeo for guys who wanted to come out of the
Starting point is 00:09:17 closet and be gay and do rodeo. In peace. In peace. And then they were getting, becoming drag queens. And it was so interesting because one of them was like, I used to do drag, but I felt like I lost myself and I lost my masculinity. But I finding my. my femininity is helping me find my power.
Starting point is 00:09:37 And he was crying and I was crying. That's very sweet. But like, it's just discovering different versions of themselves. But anyway, I really love RuPaul's trackers. Thank you so much for that interlude, Hannah. We appreciate it on this very pleasant Monday morning. It is such a Monday today. It's such a Monday.
Starting point is 00:09:56 The Monday's especially because I socialized this weekend, which is like. So when Paige socializes without me, I sit back, I wait. I'm worried. I can feel nervous. Wake up in the morning, have a 1 a.m. text of everything that went down. You made me laugh so hard. Can I say one of your quotes? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:15 She goes, the girls are younger. The guys are exactly the same. Okay. Something's going on with Gen Z. And look, I feel like I talk about this a lot with like, and I think it's partly because like I get, I'm getting older. But like, I'm really sad that club culture is dying. clubs were like such a big part of my life for so long and thinking that like gen z doesn't go out and like drink and go to clubs and like I feel bad for them because everything's recorded and you can't
Starting point is 00:10:46 like be yourself 2015 we weren't Instagramming no certainly not I was living my best life on a table out of club somewhere doing something we know what you're doing I go to dinner I go to dinner with one of my girlfriends, one of my guy friends, and they keep being like, okay, we're going to go to this club, like, after dinner, and I'm like, okay. And every club's name is a lovely female's name. Really? Delilah, Mary Lou, Jolene, like, all these different club names. It's just like women's names. Well, it's trying to get the women to go there. Like, it makes it feels, it sounds like a brunch. Delilah, that sounds like a brunch. We pull up and I'm like, this is not, I know this club. and I like say the name of it years ago.
Starting point is 00:11:36 And they're like, oh yeah, I think it was that club. 27 years ago, in 1982. So I walk in, I go, no, it's the same club. They didn't even change the formation. I'm like bars over here, DJ's over here. You already know everyone who works there? No, truly. You're like, Steve.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Two things happen to me. One, I witnessed for the first time ever in my entire adult life. I witnessed. I'm at standing at one table, and it's like a row of tables. I'm standing over here. There's like maybe a couple, I'm like two tables away. I watch two men sitting at a table, three men, sitting at a table alone, and I watch pretty young girls walk up to the table.
Starting point is 00:12:22 And I see the men look at each other, like, who are these girls? like why do they want to like we don't know them type thing like get away from our table and in my head I'm like hey guys this is the whole point the whole point of you getting a table is so that those two girls actually want to speak to you because if we weren't in the setting they would it so it was like one of the weird I was like this is so weird I have to go when I'm walking in I hear a girl behind me say I'd recognize that voice anywhere like Like I'm a giggler and so I turn around and I start talking. Because you know you were yapping.
Starting point is 00:12:59 I was yapping. And I started talking to this girl and her friend walks up and I look at her friend and I go, I know you. How do I know you? And she goes, I dated your ex-boyfriend after you. And I go, I've looked at your, it's like, I'm then it like all came flooding back. You're like, oh, I know everything about you. I go, I've stalked your Instagram. The closeness of that relationship, but also the tea that must have been spilled.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Well, we couldn't even spill it. Yeah. Because we literally had like five minutes. But you're trauma bonded. We were so trauma bonded. I was like, you're stunning. You're gorgeous. Like everything about you.
Starting point is 00:13:40 And then you almost feel bad for a second that you let her date him. Like I should have intervened. I said, I said I wanted to DM you, but I didn't want to see you crazy. Yeah. Yeah. But like, I needed you to know that he was the, he's the worst. Honestly, there's something so. refreshing talking to another girl who dated the same guy to be like he made me feel like
Starting point is 00:14:00 ABC and D is that because of me or is that just a universal experience actually I talk to two people and two separate boyfriends and they're like wasn't that a nightmare and I'm like one I dated before and then the other one I dated after this girl and it was almost like the same thing she was like someone needs to tell her that like he will try and ruin her life okay so those are the couple things on my pocket. But also I would say like yeah we need to rank all the guys and leave notes on them. But I do think it's important to see how bad a dude can be so that you know what you're worth is and then you date up. Like it's almost like you need that experience to know what you deserve. And I'm the kind of girl that like if you DM'd me and was like this guy's horrible
Starting point is 00:14:49 like I'm reading it. Oh yeah. Like I'm not immediately. being like, okay, well, that's like, I'm like, well, why? Give me all the tape. I'm asking him. I say, who is this girl? And why she said that? Right. Give me your side of the story. I'm fucking Judge Judy right now.
Starting point is 00:15:03 And the amount of girls that, like, I've reached out to, I reached out to one girl specifically, actually, that dated a guy that I dated prior. And I reached out to her, and I apologized to her because I said, I'm so sorry that I even had a moment that I would believe him over. what a woman was saying. I was so blinded. I completely apologize. Everything he said was a lie.
Starting point is 00:15:31 I'm sure you're lovely. I'm sure we'd be friends. She responded like, let's get to. Like, yeah, like all good. I know the type of like psychosis you were in because I dated him also. So don't worry about it. Digmatization. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:46 When they're in it, they're in it. And you got to get it, let her get through that. Yeah. You can't convince her. Like you're like, he's in jail and she's like, And he calls me every day. So go fuck yourself. As you guys know, I'm not up on Mormon-wise, which is the one show that seems to be every,
Starting point is 00:16:07 I can't open my news feed without seeing craziness. I just want to apologize to the gigglers because we had recorded the episode before, last week, before all of this. Did we talk about it? No, all of this like happened. We had already recorded. We weren't like, go watch the bachelor's. No, so I was actually so mad this week
Starting point is 00:16:24 but everything was happening because I was like, I have so much to say about this. I was literally texting you like, I can't wait to hear your take. My top line is, if you're mad at Taylor, Frankie Paul, which I, like, her name is like so intense.
Starting point is 00:16:38 If you're mad at her, I so envy you because that means you've never dated a person like Dakota. Dakota truly is tell me lies Stephen in real life. Is she toxic too? Absolutely. There were a lot of people that were mad that, like, in Mormon wives, you saw her sleep with Dakota before she left to go do the Bachelorette. And it's like, okay, well, yeah, because she's a reality TV star and you're watching her reality show.
Starting point is 00:17:05 You think, like, the other Bachelor and Bacheloretts weren't fucking before they went on TV or immediately after. Like, that's insane. She's single and clearly in a toxic. People, like, really sometimes don't, can't, like, see through reality TV and it really confuses me. Also, people judge reality TV harsher than they judge their own friends. I think the Bachelorette season being pulled from the air is one of the craziest things ever. Well, I would like to say, if you're going to pull the Bachelorette season from the air, you're going to have to pull the whole NFL season.
Starting point is 00:17:36 You're going to have to pull the NBA, the NFL, MLB, golf. You've got to probably get a lot of people out of the government. The entire government. But yet this 26-year-old Mormon housewife, Her whole season is getting pulled and she might get sued. Like, please. On information that they had. That you already knew.
Starting point is 00:17:57 You hired her knowing this information. Now the video, did you watch the video? I have to say, I don't recommend people watch the video. I watched it innocently just like for informative purposes because I have a podcast. Correct. It was very, very upsetting. Very upsetting. Don't watch it.
Starting point is 00:18:15 There's a child. You can hear the daughter. Yeah, that was. Now Taylor, Frankie Paul, that's fucked up. Fighting with him in front of your children, women are just better than men. We have to be better than them. And so, like, you should have gone into a different room and, like, duked it out or whatever. We witnessed a person at their lowest low.
Starting point is 00:18:36 I've watched so many men on reality TV do some of the most horrible things to people. Physical, mental, and get so... I've watched people. be like, I'm a drug addict and then be like, you're the star of the show. I've watched people get in physical altercations that if I had gotten into, yeah, you fired. I'd be in jail. You would have been fired. The Bachelorette firing Frankie, Taylor, Paul Frankie, Paul, Taylor, it's crazy because it's like, oh, like you've never had a season where everyone hated the woman. Well, then there were like rumors that ABC was like, oh, well, they thought it was going to be a bad season,
Starting point is 00:19:15 so they rather just like take the loss. There's never a bad season. People are going to watch. You're always going to make it good. That's what they're professionals as, making sure there's drama even when there isn't. Obviously, I watched the entire season of Mormon. Did they cut her out of it? No, no. This was like filmed. This was aired.
Starting point is 00:19:31 All of the husbands now. I think Secret Lives of Mormon Wives should be studied in colleges and like during like feminist classes because it's such a great example of all that. And all the men were like, hey, marry us at 20. too, you're going to stay home, you're going to have a bunch of kids, you're going to keep the house, you're not going to do anything that you've ever dreamt of doing. But it's going to be good because we're going to be married and I'm going to take care of you. All of the sudden, all their wives got famous and rich. And they said, hey, remember that idea you had a couple
Starting point is 00:20:05 years ago where I was going to stay home and take the care of the kids? Now you have to do it. They're all revolting. Freaking out. They're freaking out. Well, because they all have seven children. Literally, one of the husbands sat there and was like, Well, I didn't go to med school. Why? Go. Go do it then. What do you talk? Yeah, because your wife makes so much money now. You're chilling. And you're going to sit here and say to her, like, you did a video with another guy at Disney World dancing. Oh, to promote the dancing show she's on. Like, Jesse's husband literally came on and was like, our wives don't monopolize the internet. Like, I'm the leader of dad talk. No one wants you on our TV.
Starting point is 00:20:49 I heard they were like dead tucks funnier. Like they actually can't comprehend that people want to watch their wives and not them. They can't comprehend that their wives are so infuriating. It's so infuriating. I mean, I would argue what it looks like from the outside. At least Whitney's husband is the best one. Is supporting her. And I would talk, this is literal jealousy because it's like even in like a friendship.
Starting point is 00:21:14 I could be jealous of my friend when something good happens or I could go, that's my best friend. and I'm so fucking proud that I'm her best friend. If you're not like that, though, what the fuck is the point? Why are you in a relationship with someone? Your biggest hater is in your bed? I've dated my biggest hater. He was in my bed. It's fan behavior.
Starting point is 00:21:35 And it's truly one of, you never go to sleep, like, peaceful. It's truly so anxious because you're like, not only do you, like, low-key hate me, you also low-key want to be me. And that's really terrifying because you're like... The men coming together, it's so like opposition to the women. It's literally like us versus you guys. And I'm like, you've lost the plot. Marriage is about love and teamwork.
Starting point is 00:22:04 And like some years, someone else picks up this. Some years this happens. Like it's about two people who are capable of supporting each other through thick and thin. There's no star. I've watched so many men and I've watched so many women on. television and experienced it. The women can handle the mental load more. They seem to not get as caught up in, this is my real life. Like, they can separate, this is television and this isn't real. The men can't. I've truly watched so many men on reality TV and been like, okay, but that's not
Starting point is 00:22:41 your, that's not who you really are. This is who you pretend to be on TV. And there's, There's going to come a certain time where the lines are blurred, and you're going to go into a psychosis because who are you? I don't think you know who you are, and that's really unhealthy. I think the longer you stay on reality TV, the more your mental health, and not from hate, like, take out like people that hate you. It's not even that. It's the mental health of filming a television show where you are truly pretending to be somebody
Starting point is 00:23:11 that you're not. You're going to come for Taylor Frankie Paul. Let me keep my foot on this man's neck. but you're going to tell Colton that he can be on the number one television show. He was accused and convicted, admitted it, but we're pulling the Bachelorette. Please. And Colton stays catching strays. Yeah, I'll never let that go.
Starting point is 00:23:33 And when you have a stalker, I'm not kidding, it's you feel, you feel so violated just like being alive because you're like, this person is, it's really scary. The traitors to, after they filmed, like, you're in this crazy, like, psychosis. So you'll literally be hanging out with someone and be like, are you a traitor? And you're like, oh, wait, I'm not in that mindset. So when people do reality TV for like 10 years, they start believing. Yeah. Especially when some people are edited to be better than they are.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Totally. So if you on TV are edited to be this great husband or this charming, nice guy, with that, then the person actually in their real life believes that's who they are. Yeah. And that's when illness happens. And when you have to tell a man, hey, you're not who you think you are. Well, it's crazy to have to tell a man, you're not who everyone here thinks you are. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:30 You're not who the entire public thinks you are. My TikTok is so savage. It said, no one will villainize you more than a person who realizes that you have clocked who they really are. 100%. A hundred percent. Men, I think, can just see how you look at them. Yeah, men know when I don't fuck with them. Men, I mean, men know when I don't fuck with them.
Starting point is 00:24:54 It's also like, I'm just disappointed. I've had. I'm not charmed. There's so many men that I've like never been mean to, never had words with. My demeanor is I don't fuck with you and like you do nothing for me. And I've had them go completely off on me. Like, and I'm a guy haven't even said anything. Like I trigger my presence and like me being alive triggers you so much.
Starting point is 00:25:18 I saw a thing that was like if marriage was good for women, they would have taken it away from us a long time ago. And that's so true. I was at the gym the other day. Literally I'm the only person in there. There's one other guy. Humble brag. Sorry,
Starting point is 00:25:33 I'm doing 12. 3.30. I'm, I literally I have my headphones in. I turn off my music because I'm like, I need to be able to hear if this. fucking guy is going to come up behind me because he had his headphones on and he kept just repeating things. I just got freaked out and I was like now I can't even listen to anything because I have to be aware and I literally kept turning my head casually to see like where he was because I'm like
Starting point is 00:26:00 in my head. I'm like, what if he takes a weight and just hits me in the back? My mom literally came into my brain. I was like he's going to hit me in the back of my head. He's going to pull me out. And this is why we don't work out. Yeah. This is why I don't go to the gym. I do have to do a shout out. This is our first ever woman in STEM of the week. Okay. There's a girl on TikTok who, to keep her burrito closed, she used her hair tie.
Starting point is 00:26:29 And geniuses are all around us. You know, that's funny because I saw a TikTok the other day and it was a girl being like, why don't we use more of our pretty stuff in our everyday lives? And it was her using her hair clip. your algorithm to like curl up her like headphones no her like charging wires and she just like clipped it with her hair clip and I was like cute and then she like rolled up a bag of chips and she used like a barret and I was like adorable I was like I'm gonna start using all my pretty things that I like for other purposes well you have so many little trinkets I love a drink I love stuff you love my stuff
Starting point is 00:27:11 See, I hate stuff. I love stuff. I feel way down by stuff. Like, every three months, I need to, like, get rid of all my stuff. Like, all of it. See, I just love getting new stuff and putting it with my old stuff. And I love organizing my stuff. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:27:27 I don't like to organize my stuff. Makeup stuff with my makeup stuff and my hair stuff. Someone asked me, like, when's the last time you washed your brushes? I was like, when I lose them, I get a new brush. Like, I've never washed a brush. My makeup brush. Wait, someone, I think we should do it. Somebody, I don't know if she DM'd me or commented something, I can't remember.
Starting point is 00:27:48 I think she might have DM to me, but she was like, I think you and Hannah should switch routines for one week, like your skin and hair care and just see. When I tell you guys, I'm not capable. Like, I've seen the military operation that is your skin care and hair care. I'd have a week off. I don't know. It's called you just lying down. I just shower and that's it.
Starting point is 00:28:11 And then when it's time to go to sleep, like fight with yourself about can you brush your teeth or not because you're so tired. Can I woke up at 6 a.m. today and I go, hmm, maybe I'll do a face mask. Did a face mask, laid on the couch, put castor oil and a heating pad on my stomach as I got my period.
Starting point is 00:28:28 That's why I'm so fired up today. Yep. Thanks. I got it yesterday. So. A red moon. Red moon. Yeah, everyone watch the fuck out.
Starting point is 00:28:38 You're like. We're totally off. Are we? Like we're not synced. What the hell? You want to know what it is. I think my body is so sensitive that when I date the wrong person, my body truly will reject it. So like I legit didn't get my period for like two years.
Starting point is 00:28:55 I'm not kidding. It's like it was actually really, really scaring me at one point. And I've never been more regular. I've never, since high school, I have not been regular. Wow. I am almost to the fucking day. Like I had my period. legitimately exactly.
Starting point is 00:29:12 And this pod, yes, we're into psychics, we're into astrology. I was about to say we're not woo-woo, but like I guess we kind of are. But sometimes like you're thinking about like what's within, like am I eating the wrong thing or whatever? Look outside of you. Look at your environment. Is there a hater in your bed? No, like you could go to the gym five days a week.
Starting point is 00:29:29 You could eat all the fucking protein they tell you too. Work smarter, not harder. And I think the Taylor Frankie Paul thing is such a good example of. of like who you choose to be with is life or death. It true, like I don't say that lightly. Like it really is. What things about Dakota is a red flag to you that you've seen? Well, he lies so well.
Starting point is 00:29:58 He's so good at, well, one, he's a good looking guy. So he's already. Is he? He's, yeah, I would say he's subjectively a good looking guy. He's got, sharp. He's got like, pierceding guy. blue eyes. He's got brown hair. He's got good facial features. I don't know how tall he is. But the truth is, let me be honest, the ugliest guys can manipulate you. Like, it doesn't matter
Starting point is 00:30:20 if they're good looking or not. But in the public, like the public if you're okay or not is based on looks. If you have a decent jawline. He lies so impeccably well. It's terrifying. He's so extremely manipulative to everyone around him that you can see him almost be excited that people are believing him. Like there was a scene where he's sitting with her family and I'm like, oh my God, he's giddy because he just realized they believe him. And she beats herself down so much because they're like, the worst thing you could ever do is have like a baby with two men. Like that is one of the most deplorable, disgusting things I think I've ever heard in my. my life that like if a woman has a baby with more than one man you're like you should be crucivate like
Starting point is 00:31:12 shut up i think you should get um some range let's mix it up the DNA a little bit you have a little whimsy yeah you can't just risk it all with one guy i think this show is such a good example for like women in their 20s to not get married before 25 yeah we have to i keep forgetting that they're Mormons. Yeah. Well, it's just a good thing where a good example of like the way they tell you to live is only okay if it's the man. Well, isn't their religion very like the man is the head of the household where if I hear
Starting point is 00:31:43 the words head of the household? One of their husbands did a confessional and was like, look, you know, our way of life is like that I'm in charge. But I'm not going to do that because I'm a nice guy. I'm like, shut the fuck up. The fact, okay, that your wife gives you an allowance. That line is 100%. First of all, you're not a nice guy.
Starting point is 00:32:01 If you have to say you're a nice guy, I'll say it a bazillion times. Also, if you disagree with the way your guys' lifestyle is and your religion, then get out. Yeah. If you're still supporting it, you support it. But, yeah, they're breeders. The girls are supposed to be breeders. So the fact that they're doing other things, all the men are going cuckoo bananas. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Because they're not making the men's lives easier. But they are. They're bringing in tons of money for them. Laura Higgins did an interview one time and she was talking about how she dated a guy and he said to her like, I make your life easier. And she said, really? How? And he said to her, why carry your bags?
Starting point is 00:32:42 She was like, oh my God, how did I live 33 years without you carrying my bag? Like, they're so delusional. It does remind me when I was in my early 20s. This guy was like obsessed with me when I was in my darkest point. Like I was debating becoming a yoga instructor. I was like very lost. I was scared. I didn't have a purpose.
Starting point is 00:33:05 I was pretty depressed. And I was confused. And he was like, perfect. As I started figuring out what I wanted to do for a living and get career momentum, suddenly there's issues. Yeah. And I'm like, in my head, I'm like, oh, people like me more when I'm successful. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Lil's I know that he was actually resenting me more. Yeah. And I wasn't successful is a strong word. Like, I got a job. Yeah. And I was like passionate about it and excelling at it. And it's just ironic. But thank God he acted that way so I could get him out.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Even when we started Giggly Squad, I was like seeing someone who was like, are you really going to do this like a little podcast? And I was like, oh yeah, babe, just wait for it. Ever known then, Instagram recommends threads to me, which is a scary place. Yeah. Because some people are like just saying all their inner thoughts, which are mostly not healthy, but occasionally it's like informative. And one girl was talking about how many girls are in their 30s, where early 30s or mid-30s
Starting point is 00:34:02 where their career isn't where they want it to be yet, but they're feeling pressure to have a kid. Yeah. And some of them haven't met a person that they want to settle down with to have a kid. Here's the other thing. You're told, like, have a kid, have a kid, get married, be a wife. And then you do it. And then all of society is like, ew, we hate you. So it's like you literally just tricked us into doing something.
Starting point is 00:34:26 And then you're going to treat us worse. Like if someone was like, if you have a baby and you get married, like people let you sit down on the subway and they treat you with like the utmost respect. Okay, cool. Then I'll do it. They literally treat us worse though. They're like, why are you working? You have a kid. They force you to have the kid even if you're like, I can't have this kid.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Remember when Whitney went and did Chicago? They were like, but you have three kids. It's like, okay. And there's another parent in. the home. Also, isn't it so cool that those kids are able to see their mom living her dream? Like, how inspirational is that? And like showing up on Broadway and being like, that's my mom. Yeah. Yeah. Obviously. Obviously. Are we just the only ones who freaking get it? Like, I can't. On a lighter note, sure, I saw a tweet that said, I really thought hammerhead sharks would be more
Starting point is 00:35:21 relevant. When we were growing up, they had some like media momentum. They were like doing Well, haven't heard about them? Like, they're out of the limelight completely. Did they just decide to, like, go to a farm somewhere? Like, they used to be at every event. On the cover. Their PR was, like, really good early 2000. Well, think about Shark Week.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Shark Week had, like, really good PR when it first came out. Yeah, people were, like, canceling plans for Shark Week. Yeah. Because it was cable. That's what it was. We didn't have streaming yet. And streaming hasn't figured out a way to take Shark Week over. I think like I'm good
Starting point is 00:35:57 There is a good documentary about how you can make friends of sharks Like let's just do more AI dinosaurs Yeah sure guys that's exactly how it went down Like I mean what was that on Netflix We're also at a point where like Now the world is so crazy That when I see something I go that's AI And it's not like I'm reverse AIing myself
Starting point is 00:36:14 I'll be like I'm not going to send that to anyone that's AI And people like it's not AI Is it is watch parrots get haircuts Because I'm like Is it AI? Who knows? Who knows? Wait is that when they comb it back? Yeah, like, so satisfying.
Starting point is 00:36:26 You like that because he looks Italian. Well, I love the bob. I love a bob on anyone. I'm like, yeah. All parents should have a bob. Why wouldn't they? Daphne now ships internationally. Daphne ship it to Canada.
Starting point is 00:36:42 But I want to shout out the Canadian girls because they're really the number one girls that were like, please start shipping internationally. And so I was like, we got to work on this specifically for the Canadians. So you can buy Daphne now in Canada. Who did you have to call to get it to Canada? like how does that work? Katie Perry. I was like Katie, can you like talk to that guy and see if like I could just like send some jammies?
Starting point is 00:37:04 She's like, yeah, sure. But I was, it reminded me I was thinking about how hard ice skating is. Yeah. Can you ice skate? Are you holding the rink on the side? Can I ice skate? I can, but I can't. I'm not like putting the skates out and just like getting out there.
Starting point is 00:37:24 I need like 10 minutes to like regain my my bearings. Get the vibe. But I took ice skating lessons as a child at some point. Oh, and also Albany. Kim having everything. I was like Kim. Well, it was girl she wanted to see you in a little like. Oh, she loved an outfit.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Like that is so fucking cute. Now she's a ballerina. I'm like, how about we sit on the couch? I did want to let people know though that my mom was telling me a story and I realized I've been a delusional icon since day one. I've never ice skated before and I was like eight years old and I get to the rink in Brooklyn there's rink and I see all the big teenage girls in the middle yeah doing jumps yeah and you're like so I look at my dad and I'm like I want to go over there yeah and he looked at me and he's like
Starting point is 00:38:09 you don't know how to ice skate when you learn you can go over there and I go I'm not skating with these fucking losers put me in the middle and let me go and is my hidden talent or it's not dad Let's see. He was like, you're going to hurt yourself. You're like, you'll get tackle. Like, you're not, they don't let, like, you can't go. Yeah. And I was like, I'm not fucking ice skating unless I'm doing flips.
Starting point is 00:38:30 And he was like, this is going to, I fought with my dad for like 30 minutes. I'm like, I'm not, I refuse to learn the basics. And I just said, I'm a champion. I'm going to the Olympics. That is so you. That was so mean. And then I ended up not doing it because I was like, I'm not playing this game. It's interesting that you can probably see who your kids are going to become if you really
Starting point is 00:38:48 just like take a minute. And in that moment. probably was like, this girl's fucking crazy. But if you do that with the right thing, like me being like, oh, I'm just going to do stand up in front of 500 people. Yeah. That's mental illness. That's delusion.
Starting point is 00:39:03 But even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then, and I found my nut. And then you go. So, guys, be delusional if you forgot. That's so funny you say that because my parents were like looking through old pictures the other day. They were like cleaning. I think they were like cleaning out our basement or something. That's the best that let it make my day. I love a cleaning.
Starting point is 00:39:21 out photo session. And I, like, died for baby dolls. Like, I was a mother. Like, I didn't play with anything else but a baby doll. You were working three jobs to feed these children. Like, Barbies, get out of my face. Like, any figurines. I was like, you're stupid, like, Legos are dumped. Like, I was a mother. Because you're actually terrified of babies now, but I digress. Catch me in my play kitchen, whipping up a meal. Like, everything then I thought I wanted. You're like, the water's boiling. But this is how I. was the same. My mom used to say that if my dad came into my playroom and if like I was holding my baby dolls, if he kissed my because my mom would say that like I used to be that she'd be like,
Starting point is 00:40:01 okay, kiss your baby. Like that's your baby. And I would like kiss my baby. And then if my dad kissed my baby, I would look at my dad and be like, why would you be that? I would get so mad. I'd be like, I'm your baby. This is, you don't know this doll. And that is you in a relationship. I'm like, why would you text her? You don't know her. Did you look at that girl across the street? I'm like... From a young age, you are who you are.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Yeah, from a young age, I knew I wanted to beat men. I knew that they were up to no good. Speaking of beating men, this is why I'm crazy. I remember from a young age, my dad always believed in me. It was like so proud of me, which like brought its own issues. But once like some kid was like said he was fast and my dad goes, raise her, he would make me race other boys in the school. Like that's, and at the time, that was just my life.
Starting point is 00:40:55 That was my normal. So I'd be like racing another boy and I'd win and then he'd be like, yeah, my daughter just kicked your boy's ass. Made that's so funny. Like, he had me racing random kids. Yeah. He's like taking bets on this. Literally.
Starting point is 00:41:08 He's like 24, 24 and 21, 21, 24. 35. They're 5. I don't talk about this because I like to protect him, but my brother's actually like a star. He just didn't want the limelight. But he was always. like the cute one, the charming one. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:41:24 hi, gosh. Yeah. So this is so Brooklyn, but we were like playing in the yard and like a Gap model scout. Yeah. Was like looking for cute kids.
Starting point is 00:41:35 You know how this is. You would have been picked immediately. They see my brother who's like blue-eyed, gorgeous, like not too hyper. That's what it was. It was the kids that knew how to shut the fuck up is who got picked. That makes me feel better.
Starting point is 00:41:51 my mom is talking to my dad like oh Daniel got picked um and I'm like did I get picked yeah she couldn't in her heart of heart tell me I didn't get picked so she lied to me said I got picked they let me wait in the line for photos how sad is that and then I came up and I was like what yep guys and they were like get your daughter but that okay but what a good example of like amazing parenting on your mom's part. Like you didn't know. I didn't know what I didn't know. Yeah, you didn't know that you weren't picked because
Starting point is 00:42:27 by all means you were. She literally had to be like, hey, casting director, can my ugly daughter just like stand in the line and like she won't know? Yeah. And I was clearly chatty Kathy talking to everyone causing disruption. And my brother, and my brother, he didn't want the stardom. But everyone wanted him.
Starting point is 00:42:44 Yeah. And I was just in the background, racing random people. I never knew rejection either. like when I did that at model like I my mom never told me if I didn't get something she'd be like they canceled it like well no she goes modeling is over yeah she'd be like you get to go to your Girl Scout meeting because they canceled it and I'd be like amazing like I didn't know well it's good for kids to have adversity but it's bad for them to just like get their confidence hurt for like a stupid reason like yeah an agent liking a blonde better than you here's the other thing this just
Starting point is 00:43:16 made me think of it with the Taylor Frankie Paul thing. People are like so going against her and rightfully so because they're like there was a child in the video. So the adult that leaked the video also has a child with this woman. So him leaking that video, he doesn't give a fuck what damage is done to that little girl now that that video is out for the rest of her life. And I hope that they can fucking heal and I hope that the kid can be okay. Okay. I think they should air the Bachelorette. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:50 I mean, I don't get why they wouldn't. Well, also, when they started this, it was because she went on TikTok and was telling everyone that all our friends are fucking each other's husbands. Like, let's just remember where it started. It wasn't her being like, she's always been doing things that are. The first episode of the entire show is her getting arrested. Like, for domestic violence.
Starting point is 00:44:13 People have showed me, like, there's been so many physical altercation. on reality TV that everyone just kind of was like that's iconic like Ron Ronnie and Sammy would beat the shit out of each other. There's so many physical altercations that also happened that van derogh. There's been, oh yeah. Because they're like this can't air but like that happened. You just see people, people's reactions. Yeah. But a woman will get more in trouble for something she said than a man will for something he did. And a woman can say the same thing that a man said and be in more trouble. Are you kidding?
Starting point is 00:44:48 A hundred percent. Verbatim. Verbatim. Verbatim. A lot of like nice boyfriends have been coming to my shows lately. That's nice. Like they want to be made fun of. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:00 They are getting tickets for the girls. They're coming together. Like there's, gigglers have been finding good partners, I believe. Yeah. I mean, Giggly Squad shows, remember? Like, whenever we pick on a guy, we're always like. Yeah, we're like, actually this. one was boring because you're so nice. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Well, anyway, I ordered Hannah's
Starting point is 00:45:19 Duncan today for her. Why did you get me a juicy peach? Because, because that's your nickname for me. Okay. Hannah, literally, I saw juicy peach and I was like, that's Hannah. And then I saw glamberry. And I was like, that's me. That's your aura. That's our oras. You guys, thank you for giggling with us. I'm in Ohio all weekend. So check that. And Salt Lake City. So I'll, if any Mormons, Thank you Duncan for sponsoring this episode and keeping us hydrated. Bye.

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