Giggly Squad - Giggling about girl's gays, male comics, and method acting
Episode Date: December 15, 2025We're done with saying sorry, reading emails, and straight marriages.subscribe to our newslettershop merchget our book Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information....
Transcript
Discussion (0)
Sup Gigglers.
Gary, fix the Wi-Fi.
Manifest that shit.
We can't be managed.
I mean, the day just got away from me.
My macha loaf.
Is it green?
Because it's Wicked Week.
I'm just kidding.
Let's actually start with her eating.
I was rolling, so we got that.
Oh, good.
What's up my green gigglers?
No, Hannah's chose right now to have breakfast.
That was a dry swallow.
I have so much to talk about today.
First of all, it's Sunday.
Yeah.
Wake up, glorious snowing.
Text Grace at 9 a.m.
She doesn't answer.
I'm like, okay, she's probably brushing her teeth.
She's just peeing.
or in the shower, maybe.
She's always ready before me.
Right.
And we have to be somewhere by 11.
Yeah.
So there's two hours, but like, it's nine.
Yeah.
So then I call her.
She has an answer.
Then I'm like, okay, I'm going to call her again
because she might be sleeping.
She might have overslept.
Then I went full mom mode, and I was like,
she's lying down in the street, unconscious.
Someone needs to find Grace.
She went out last night.
She went out last night.
Well, do you have Grace's this location?
I'm like not a location person.
I don't even have my husband's location.
What?
No, you need to start taking down people's locations.
Hey, do we don't have each other's locations?
I don't have your location?
Wait a second.
Wait a second. I feel like...
Probably the only person that you would want to know.
I don't have your location.
I always want to know your location.
Sierra just randomly took my location one day.
I have Sierra's location.
She likes just having it.
Yeah.
I check in.
I check in.
I check in to see where she is every once in a while.
Sometimes she really throws me for a loop.
One time I checked, she was in like Vancouver.
Oh, yeah, she's always like in London.
No, I think having people's location is very important.
Clearly not that much because you never asked me for it.
Well, you have a husband.
You have other people that are watching you.
Like, if you go missing, I'm probably not the first person that's going to notice
is going to be someone else.
And that person should have your location.
That's like when Des and I got to fight because I put my mom down as my emergency contact.
Wait, I didn't know that.
You didn't know that?
No, for what?
I don't know.
Some DMV stuff and he looks at me and he was like, do you just put your mom?
And I was like, yeah, she's the only adult I know.
And he was like, I'm your husband.
I'm your emergency contact.
I'm like, you're always with me.
You're not my emergency contact.
Wait, he's also like always out of town.
Yeah, you're always out of town like speaking Mandarin to someone on the phone.
You're a spy.
I'm not putting your contact down.
normalize not having your spouse be your emergency contact when does your mom not become your
emergency contact i think when you get married wait no no no my husband is not taking care of me
that's disgusting and not feminist also i do have to say people like oh this is i think gonna start
like a real a real conversation yeah like i don't my dad's not my emergency contact ever why
would i put my husband are you does is but your does is obviously
I told him, how long have you been doing that?
You're like, do you want to put my mom down?
No, I said that.
I said, I have my mom's number if you need.
She's available for all of us at all times.
That's her only job on this world is to make sure in emergencies she's there for me.
And like, should I put Lenore?
Dad.
Also, side note, who's ever needed an emergency contact?
Because I got hit by a car once and I'm pretty sure they didn't have an emergency contact.
You know, in my phone, like, if something were to ever happen to me and, like, the police were like, oh, where's her phone?
If you go in my phone, my mom is my emergency contact in my phone.
You can make that, like, a thing.
You're such a nervous, Nelly.
I love it.
You're like, well, I'm very prepared for this moment.
I'm like, if there's an apocalypse, someone's going to call my mom.
Can I say one thing about marriage too?
Everyone's like, oh, it's embarrassing to have a boyfriend.
It's more embarrassing to be married.
And then I was thinking about gay people and how jealous I am.
Like, when gay people get married, it's a movement.
Yes.
When I get married, I'm embarrassing.
Well, again, only for girls.
Only for girls.
Yeah, when men get married, everyone goes, thank God.
Yeah, like, when men get married, they're like, oh, he finally settled down.
Like, he, like, worked on himself.
He waited.
He's going to be on track.
He's like, yep.
She's going to hold him down.
Yes.
He was all crazy.
Yeah, she's his rock.
She's holding him down.
But, like, when we do it, it's like your life's, like, expectancy is going to go down.
And just the quality, overall quality of it.
They're literally like, bye.
Bye, bitch.
He goes, you're married.
I'm like, okay, I'd never see my husband.
Wait, speaking of, um...
We have so much to talk about today.
We've so much to talk about.
Did you see that TikTok video of the girl getting mugged in like, I think she was on vacation,
like in like Columbia or somewhere?
That's so your algorithm, girls getting mugged.
No, I have nice, sweet cat videos.
She's got her backpack on.
She's with her male friend, which we can only assume is her boyfriend, husband, or fiancé.
Or it could be platonic.
We don't fully know yet.
See, I immediately went to gay, but continue.
What we do know is she's got her backpack on.
He's got his backpack on.
They're looking at something, like, looks like they're looking at directions on the phone.
Someone comes from around the corner, tries to snatch her phone.
She starts fighting the guy, like, no, you're not taking my phone.
The man she's with runs away.
Runs away behind a wall.
Okay.
This woman's fighting for her.
life, a random guy from the street sees it's happening, runs up. I think he might have even been
on a motorcycle or something, and like pulls up, runs to her, helps her, gets the guy away from her,
and then her boyfriend comes, like, walking back into frame. Like, are you okay? Talk about never
being able to get wet again around him? No, I would actually murder him. Also, side note, if I did have a
gay best friend with me. I feel like gay guys are the first to be like, let me beat his ass.
There's also nothing I love more than being with my gay guy friends and they start acting
like your boyfriend. Like at the airport. They're like, I'll grab your, I'm like. No, when you
remember like, wait, they're really strong. Like sometimes Mitchell will do something and I'll be like,
oh my God, I forget that like you're a man. You're a man and people see you in the street.
They don't know you and like you're a man. So they're all automatically like respecting you.
It's funny because that's, like, the only thing we need men for is, like, to defend us in that very specific situation that may or may not happen.
And it's funny because I'm with an older man.
And to take our bags down from the overhead space.
Which they never do.
By the way, actually, yesterday on the flight, I'm sitting next to this man, which I was like, oh, no, this could go badly.
Didn't speak to me the whole time.
I was like, I love this man.
Yep.
And then I'm waiting at the end.
He stands up in the aisle, so obviously I can't go into the aisle to get my stuff.
And he looks at me and he's like, do you have a bag up here?
When I tell you, I fly eight times a week, first time this has happened this year.
Really? And you said yes. And I said, actually, yes. Little did you know, I had like seven bags?
I was like, yes. And he pulled on the luggage and he goes, what about this backpack? I go, that is mine too.
He goes, what about that coat? I go, that is mine too. We're laughing. We're kicking. And I said, we just brought men and women together.
How old was they? He was a, you know what? He was like a nice 40-year-old.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like he was married
I don't think so
But he also
I don't know
He just was like old school
Did he give dad vibes? Yeah
Yeah yeah yeah
You have to get a dad because no one
You have to get a dad
Because no one under the age of 25
Like man is even like looking in your direction to take
Like they don't even
That's not even running through their head of like
Oh maybe I should help them get a bag down
That's like not
It's crazy because it's really guys that are 30 to 40
That you're like
Hello?
Where, like, past 45, they're helping more.
Yeah.
But also past 50, they, like, can't.
Right.
Like, at some point I'm like, I got it, sir.
You're going to pull a ligament.
I got it.
We don't need the plane to turn around because you have to go to the doctor.
Also, chaos ensued on one of my flights.
A woman looks up and she goes, someone.
She goes, someone took my bag.
This is my worst nightmare.
That's actually my worst fear.
I was in row two, so thank God, like, it could only be, like, two people in front of us.
It was just a mistake.
But the person was kind of like, okay, well, you just have to go find them.
So then I'm, like, locked in to the drama.
Wait.
The flight attendant was like, okay, we'll go chase them.
She literally go, we'll go get him, bitch.
And I was, like, behind her, like, let's go, girl.
So I'm just following her.
Oh, my gosh.
And she's chasing this guy.
And this guy is, like, no idea.
It's just a black bag.
And then one thing I read.
realize, and I didn't hear it specifically, but I want to say one other thing about men,
sorry, Chris, they never fucking say sorry. I say sorry if you hit me. Yeah. If you pommel me in
the airport, I go, I am so sorry. That's such a good point. You punch a woman in the face
and she's like, I am sorry for what I did. Men, like, I'll have Uber drivers, or no, like a driver
is supposed to pick me up for the airport and be like over sleep 40 minutes late. Doesn't say sorry
when he gets there.
Yeah.
Like, and this is not just one person.
This happens all the time with men.
They don't say sorry.
They don't say sorry and they don't use exclamation points when they're writing emails.
And you know what?
Part of me respects it.
I say, should I be more like that?
But then I think, how am I going to not say sorry for being an hour late to a pickup time to an airport?
I've been really PMSing.
They've made a mistake.
Yeah.
Good for you.
Good for you.
Let it out.
That I was writing such a.
stern email this week
that I started crying.
I literally am typing
and I go, wait, this is like
actually kind of mean.
You're Sarah Jessica Parker, but for mean emails.
And then at the bottom of the email, I go,
I hope this didn't come off as harsh.
And I'm full on sobbing.
Can I tell people what you do?
When?
Which is actually very healthy.
When?
Okay.
So when Paige is really, really mad, but she knows that she needs to not say anything.
Yeah.
She will write it out.
Like full-flesh, like novels to people.
Send it to me.
I said that was a good one.
And she goes, thank you.
And then deletes it.
I write informational text messages to people I hate.
I write full, like, and I edit it.
It's a form of journaling.
I edit it.
Sometimes I'll take certain paragraphs and I'll throw it in chat GPT and I'll be like,
make that snarkier.
And I'm like, oh, yeah, that's a good one.
And so I'll type out a full fucking text message to someone and I won't obviously send
it to that person because like I could start a.
I could start a, that, like, companies would end.
Like, things would happen.
It would be crazy.
Yeah.
So I just sent it to Hannah.
And I think, and I'll appreciate the line.
And, like, you get, it's so good.
I mean, I'll do that with social media.
Like, you will not see me.
Like, I will never.
I'm not in the comments.
I'm not in the comments at all.
But if I do see anything that pisses me off, you just write it out.
You have a little smirk because you're like, that would have been funny.
Page you laughed at that.
And then you delete it and you go on with your life.
I hate people in two different.
senses. Like, I can
hate you and I
will never acknowledge that you're even alive on this
planet. And that's like, that's worse
for you. And that means I don't hate you
as much as
other people. But I really just more
like want to piss you off. But then there's
another kind of hate where I'm like
I literally am
manifesting for you
the worst possible next
five years. When are you getting
your period? Hopefully.
No, I actually think I have
PMDG where I'd like my PMS because this week I've been visceral I was PMSing I actually just got my period that's why I'm so relaxed today and gorgeous
My ludial phase is over. I was bloated like a pig
I was swollen and I'm mad like the week before your period you're so ugly
So so ugly I mean you're gorgeous at all times but like me I was on vacation and I was like that's crazy
Dess at one point was like are you pregnant? And I was like that you're not supposed to ask people that
like literally you're not supposed to ask people that and then I got a hip a violation you're not even my
emergency gunshot you're not even my emergency got down just like you can ask me that I got a headache you know
when it's like in your eye socket like it's I'm like Googling like what part of my eye socket and then I'm like
like you had a migraine I'm not a migraine this week too but you know it's so funny I'm insane
so I've never called it a migraine I'm just like I have a really bad headache well I classify a migraine
when, like, after I take Advil or Tylenol and it's still there.
And, like, if I have to turn the light off, I'm like, oh, this is a migraine.
I have to say one thing about my aura ring.
Okay.
Because if you haven't noticed, I'm back on my aura ring bullshit.
I don't think we ever really addressed it when you started it because I tried to just, like, ignore it.
I love aura ring.
You do?
Well, it's fun because if I worked out, it would be more fun.
Yeah.
But I don't.
It's more like me on tour being, like, how tired am I?
And you wake a fun game.
You wake up and it goes, you're really fucking tired.
Looking at your own social media.
Yes.
But this is the problem that I do have to raise awareness about aura rings.
So now it'll say this thing being like, you're really tired.
Make sure you relax today.
So I've been using it.
Like I haven't worked out in a month.
And as like you should like move your body a little.
And I go, uh, uh, my aura ring.
So I wake up, I don't even consider working out because I'm like my aura rings is to rest.
That's how I am with the app the pattern, which is basically like horoscope.
It's like everyone sucks today.
you and I'm like, I knew it.
And period.
I have an idea for ORA.
If they made a version for animals, I would get it.
Like if I could put an aura ring on kitty and see like,
yeah, like what's her sleeping patterns?
Like when was she awake last night?
Is she hungry?
Well, that's my furbo.
Like my furbo lets me know, like I watch what butter is up to at night.
Yeah.
We don't know about a lot.
but what we do know about is getting enough sleep and being rested and when we don't get enough
sleep we're nightmarish nightmarish sinister energy I have a very lengthy morning routine
nighttime routine you love a routine I love a routine I like adding things into my routine
doing things out of my routine one one thing that is a staple in my routine is my AG1
I've been using AG1 for years now honestly I would say like 2019 is probably when I first started
using it. And I'm so happy that AG1 now has something for our nighttime routine, and we're so
excited about AGZ. It's a new melatonin-free nightly drink that becomes a simple ritual we now look
forward to at night. Add it into my nighttime routine all the time. I like to be working while
I'm sleeping. That's one thing. People think we're like lazy. We're bed rotters. No, we're working.
Working just horizontally. I'm recharging. I'm hair oiling. I'm getting my fill of magnesium.
Yes. I also, I love a fun drink. I don't want to drink water. No, you don't. I don't. And at night,
when you're not going out, I still want to have something fun, a little party in my bedroom.
Now they have a flavor mixed berry that has right to the top of my list. Makes my routine even
easier because it does taste so good. So I have it at nighttime because it has magnesium in it,
and magnesium is very important for women specifically. And I'm obsessed with a,
the chocolate mint right now, because I make it hot.
I make it hot.
It feels nice on the throat.
I make it with warm oat milk since I'm off my dairy, as you know, and I sip it while
cuddling my cat.
And it just tells my body, like, the day's over, we're slowing down, stop overthinking
everything, stop thinking about everything that you've done that's embarrassing in your
life.
And let's relax.
I wake up feeling rested, not groggy.
Sleep is actually like our number one superpower.
So it's melatonin free.
I'm off melatonin. I'm all about magnesium. And magnesium is supposed to be like better for women. It helps you sleep. And I just, I prefer it. I love a nighttime warm drink. You do. And I love a nighttime cold drink. And that's where we're different, but similar. But there's nothing like getting in bed. You've fulfilled all your tasks. Your hair's up in a bun. You're doing a mask. You have a face mask on. You've already journaled. You've picked your show for later. And you're drinking a nice drink. We're officially obsessed with their new nighttime routine.
AGZ is the melatonin-free nightly drink that helps your body and mind wind down and supports
restful, restorative sleep so you can wake up feeling refreshed. We love that you can work it
into your nightly routine and turn better sleep into your new favorite ritual.
If you're ready to turn down the stress and focus on the rest, head to drinkag1.com
slash giggly to get a free frother with your first purchase of AGZ. That's drinkag1.com
slash giggly. This segment was brought to you by AG1.
Speaking of last night, and speaking of gays, because if you guys don't know,
I was going to my church. I was a gain in past life. I am on a gay algorithm. I seek
the gays approval, like, nobody's business. I think there is something healing about like going
from wanting straight male approval to gay male approval.
That's like a part of your growth. Wait, I have so much to say about this. I'm really happy
you're bringing this up. No, you can go on with this. I learned recently. I learned recently,
that there's...
Oh, she's moving stuff around.
I need an area.
There's gaze, gays, girls' gays.
Oh, because the gays-gays hate women.
The gays-gays hate women.
They're rooting against us.
Now, I rarely, rarely come into contact with gays-gay.
To the point where I don't know it's happening to me, you were with me one specific time.
I attract gays-gays.
They come towards me.
You attract gays-gays.
We're like all of my gay guy friends.
They're girls.
gays like they're excited like and here i saw this video on tic-tok and it was like if you're a girls
gay you of any other species on the planet watch women get their heartbroken so many times
not just from like relationships just like them living like the abortion stuff like all of that
stuff like if you're they're in tune yeah because they're in our lives with us where gays
gays are like only with gay guys and they like don't really give a shit about women
and I didn't know this was a thing
until one time I was with a gay man
and I was with Hannah
and I was like
oh I think he's maybe being mean to me
but sometimes I'm sensitive
so I'm like no like I'm just being sensitive
like whatever
and then he said like a couple other things
and Hannah was like
then I saw Hannah get confused
and like no this is Paige
like
no no this
you can talk like that to me
you're gay and this is Paige
where's the disconnect
And I'll never forget this gay man
So as long as I live
Because I was shocked
You wrote him over 10 email
I wrote him over 10 email
Also
Some Giggly Squad shows
There are different girls gays too
Where I think there's like a page gay
And a Hannah gay
Because I don't want to
Gay men do connect with me
In a different way
Like some gays like love sports
And those girls gays
Are your gays
Well, there will be some, like, very, um, funny, like, specific bravo gays.
Some of them do like me.
Some of them are literally, like, the bravo gays have, like, kept me sane through my, for a long time.
Wait.
What bravo gays?
Every man on reality TV.
I was just going to say, they're not out.
I know.
I was saying, like, the Instagram.
Classifies gays gays.
Like, bravo by gays.
Like, we love them.
Oh, like them.
But occasionally on a Gigli Squad show, there will be like a gay guy, a gay guy raise his hand, and he'll be like, hi, Paige, look at me and then ask you something about your outfit. And I'm like, oh, we're in a fucking fight. But then I'll have like a gay come up to me at like a coffee shop and be like, by the way, like Netflix doesn't have a lot of specials. I feel like I can connect with and watching your special? Like, I love to do. And I was like, can you tell Paige? Because she thinks that, like, gay guys don't like her. It's something kind of bad for my brand. So there is a, we're like, we're like, we're like,
learning that there is a range.
There's a range.
And I was like unaware of it.
And then I was like, oh, no, I've actually experienced this.
But look, misogyny comes in all shapes and forms.
All shapes and sizes.
Now, which brings me to, last night, I watched the first three episodes of heated rivalry.
Now, has heated rivalry come across your desk at all?
It sure has.
How so?
I'm an avid show surfer.
You are.
And if there's something new on the platform,
I'm dialed in, I know what's coming out.
I have things on Netflix, like saved, alert me.
Emily and Paris Thursday, like we know it.
So when I was on Amazon and I saw,
because there was another Amazon show,
I forget what it's called,
but they were royal and they were gays.
And I loved that.
You love that.
And so then I saw hockey players and I was like,
so I'm two episodes in.
Oh, I didn't know.
Of course.
Did you start watching after I told you last night?
No, I've been watching.
Okay, sorry.
I've been watching.
to take credit um before you tell your story one little fact i want the gigglers to know there is not
one out n hl player there might be one in the minor leagues i think maybe there's one in like the
level below i love that you immediately looked into this well statistically honey
statistically cannot be possible cannot be true now let me preface this because i know we recommend a lot of
stuff on giggly squad and i know that y'all are listening and you're like oh it's throwing on and you know
the holidays are coming up and you're going to be with your family.
He's like, oh, Hannah Page mentioned the show, Heated Rivalry.
Warning.
Or, or, maybe you should.
Open a conversation with Graham, Graham.
If someone brings up politics or anything homophobic, say, hey, I want to show you a new show.
I've got a show for you.
A holiday show.
It's called Heated Rivalry.
Now, this is my hot take about Heated Rivalry.
It is everything I wanted Challenges to be, and Challenger's wasn't.
And as you guys know, I have.
Were they gay and challengers?
They were, like, teasing it the whole time.
They were gay baiting.
And in my head, I was like, if this was about, like, this love triangle, but the guys are actually hooking up and they're, like, in the closet on tour together, like, I'm locked in.
Locked.
So he'd arrived.
And by the way, when I first went to Wisconsin, Goldie Edgers, I was unfamiliar with hockey.
I'd only known, like, basketball players, baseball players.
I was from Brooklyn.
I never met this breed of hockey man.
They're pale, they're chiseled
They have bow legs
They have STDs
They have little fucked up teeth
They tack like this
They're all
But they're all like kind of beautiful
Yeah well they're like
They're very like grunt
Like there's like boys
Dirty boys and they went to like
College together
And their hair is always like straggly
And they grow out there
And they have all these names for each other
And they have to like squat on the ice and stuff
I was into it
Because it's honest
It is figure skating
But then they like punch each other
to remind themselves, it's like straight.
Yeah, it's like, okay, that was a triple sow cow.
It's not pretend.
It wasn't anything else, but a Tara Lipinski flip.
I think, let's be serious.
No, they literally do a triple sow cow, and then they're like,
oh, I'm straight.
So this is...
Also, just a wild concept that there's a sporting event where they're like,
yeah, if they want to punch each other, we're okay with it.
As long as it doesn't go too far.
It makes no...
That's assault.
At any point, a guy will just, it is actually like a form of theater.
No, it's a form of theater.
It's like, oh, he's gotten angry.
Like, if a girl did that, imagine if middle of the podcast I start punching you, that would be a problem.
But no, it's good entertainment.
That's what I mean about, like, gang violence.
It's like, guys, just go to therapy.
Talk it out.
But also, you know these guys get a beer afterwards, which is the even crazier thing.
Or they might be having sex.
A lot of lovers quarrels could be happening on the ice that we don't even know.
That's why they've been fighting.
The whole time they've been fighting because they're like, did you look at that guy's ass?
We're figuring everything out.
Now, as someone, when I tell you guys, I was not a jersey chaser because I was an athlete,
so it was more athlete on athlete crime.
But, like, in theory, like, I just loved athletes.
My whole life, all I want day is athletes.
I've never looked at a poet.
I've dabbled in a musician, but he did play sports.
And that was a mistake.
Yeah. And we learned and we grew from that.
But I'm obsessed with athletes because as you guys know, I'm very strong.
And athletes make me feel tiny and like just adorable and little around them.
And they're like, you're so tiny. I'm like, I know.
So then watching this made me question everything.
Because in my head, I'm like, well, I'm just like the athletes on campus are the most manly, masculine straight dudes.
And look, have I heard through the grapevine in real?
life that this may or may not have happened a couple times yes but now i'm i'm looking at everyone
differently yeah i'm looking around at every dude and i don't chris i don't trust you like if i was a dude
i'd be fucking my friends like girls is so much more like you got to you know make them trust you
it seems very complicated if you are just a horny dude fuck your friend leave us alone yeah leave us
alone go jerk off with your friend now i'm afraid i didn't even preface this
correctly. Heated rivalries about gay hockey players. And when I tell you, how is it 2025? Sorry,
I'm very passionate about this. And we haven't yet had a like mainstream TV show of like a male
gay love story that is so I'm locked in. Yeah. I'm locked in. Also by the way, there is, it is,
I don't want to be like, oh, it's gay porn. But like if you're watching a show where straight people
hookable, it's a lot of sex. So just like warning people.
also but there's no dicks one point for like the male loneliness epidemic like obviously like they're trying to blame it like all on the girls and like we're mean to them now and stuff but like maybe it's because the men can't create a space in which they're safe with each other like there was this video on ticot and it was like this girl went up to like a certain amount of women and it was like if you could move to a world where it was just all women are you going and every woman was like fuck yeah like I'm going
going. And then they asked the same question to men. Like, would you move to a world that was all
men? And every man was like, absolutely not. That's insane. Why would we ever do that?
But then all the men do is complain that they can't hang out their friends enough, but into the
gay ones. Well, mind you, like, in all female world, I don't think would work either because, like,
the amount of text messages, I probably have to send this insane. SMS would explode.
But in, like, just a low level thinking of it, we enjoy being with each other for long periods of time
because we feel safe with each other.
They don't even feel safe enough to be like,
hey, I think that guy's hot.
Could you imagine?
What's great in that show is they can't communicate with each other.
And he just keeps saying,
fuck you, bro, fuck you.
Like, that's how they talk.
And then I'm like, that's literally how the guys always talk to each other.
Like if I one day was like,
wait, I actually think I'm attracted to women
and I think I'm a lesbian,
you're the first person I'm telling.
Well, because you'd marry me.
Well, because if you were like on me.
And then I'd be like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
So now I'm too.
Do people's emergency contact?
Like, what?
I'm like, no, you're none.
When are you going to figure it out?
No, well, we, when men hang out, they have trouble express.
I hope that men, Chris, do you have one guy that you can, like, call?
How long have you been friends with your best friend?
My oldest best friend is probably like sixth grade.
Okay.
But I'm probably more closer with people in recent years.
Okay, when's the last time you had like a sentimental, like, deep,
where you were like, man, that was a really deep conversation with so-and-so.
Somewhat often.
Really?
Yeah, somewhat often.
Chris is like, like Chris is.
Yeah, he's dialed in.
Yeah.
How old are you again?
28.
28.
So you are technically Gen Z.
Or no, you're on the cusp.
It's like right on the cusp.
You're like an older gen Z.
When was the last time you complimented your guy friend?
Like, honestly and non-ironically?
Yeah.
Like,
I meant you is like I'll make fun of you and they'll be like.
Yeah, but that's, well, that's different.
But like when you walk in somewhere and like you look at him and you look so good.
Well, yeah, because then you're obsessed with me.
Yeah.
And then when you don't say anything, I like have to go home and reflect on my decisions.
It's the whole thing.
But I digress.
Did you have another point?
There's heated rivalry is so good.
Also, I love that in film and TV, traditionally went in the arts.
In the arts.
I feel like gay characters were so stereotyped when there's a gay guy.
just the gay best friend.
That's the only gay guy there is.
Totally.
And he doesn't have his own storyline and he's, you know,
bitchy and girly, and that's it.
So just them showing these guys and they're not acting in like a theatrical,
stereotypical gay, which by the way, being a girly gay is perfect.
It's just there isn't one kind of gay, which we've discussed earlier in this podcast.
Well, it's like they're not out.
So they are almost like cosplaying.
Straight.
Yeah.
And so it's actually like there's always.
also an element to it where it's like sad, where you're like, wait, I wish you could just
like be together and like tell everyone. And it's funny because at first, because I'm not
used to seeing it because I don't watch male gay porn.
You don't?
So I heard from the lesbian community, lesbians love male gay porn.
Interesting.
And lesbian correspondents message me if I'm wrong because I don't want to have false information
out there, but some lesbians, it's like why I've actually, I've never watched you guys.
It's why straight girls like girl-on-girl porn.
Because they're so, like, removed from it?
Like, it's almost like...
We still haven't been able to figure this one out.
But lesbians don't want to watch two girls pretend to hook up.
Where straight girls were like, okay, cute.
They're pretending?
What do you mean they're pretending?
I know she squirted.
She really liked that, actually.
But having a first one...
Wait, that is actually really funny.
I've never even thought to look for two guys gay men.
No, no.
Because I'm like, what am I going to do here?
No, I've never clicked.
Also, it seems like, I never even see it.
Aggressive.
I don't also, yeah, like, I don't, two dicks, that's a nightmare.
Yeah.
So then, but, so watching it when they first start kissing, I think I got like a visceral reaction
because I'm so not used to seeing it.
And at first I was like, ah.
And then by the second episode, I was like, put your finger in his butt.
Let's do this.
I'm locked it.
And it was like very hot.
Well, it also kind of shows a like part of it that we kind of forget that
anal's like a thing.
No, I'm just kidding.
There's more holes.
In 2025, there's so many men that are not out.
And not just because I've dated half of them, but because like I look in the world and it's very sad.
Well, think about it.
All girls are gay.
Totally.
All girls are gay.
We have to come out as straight.
Yeah.
We say, oh, I'm straight.
I'm sorry.
I'm straight.
We are
We're comfortable enough
With our sexuality
To be able to say like that girl is so hot
Or like
Watch gay lesbian porn
Like I've never heard a straight man
Saying like I watch guy on guy porn
Because we're out here just being like
Yeah obviously I watch two girls watching a man
We don't know
We don't know
But bottom line is in 2025
Where gay marriage is legal
And there's like
I mean we hope we hope we hope continuing
That there's still men that feel like
they can't come out. I also think there's a lot of men that are just like on the spectrum.
Yeah. Where they're like maybe I'm by. Yeah. Like where sexuality is all over the place.
And with girls, it's more freeing and socially acceptable. Also, do you know many girls you see
on the street holding hands that you're just like, they're so cute best friends, but they're dating.
Speaking of just, oh. I watched the Taylor Swift documentary. I watched the first two episodes
too. Wait, we are, we never watch the same things. This week is like a miracle, you guys.
Happy holidays.
Even just saying you're impressed by her is like such a low level.
I, and look, I like Taylor Swift.
I, when I was in high school, like when that album, first album came out, like the girls,
we just got our license, it was life-changing.
Obviously, like, as time has gone on, I feel like I've missed a couple albums.
I wasn't, like, as in-tuned.
But, like, now she's, like, getting engaged and all this stuff and this documentary.
She's so impressive, it's actually mind-blowing.
Well, when you follow a celebrity just through, like, other people's concepts of them and tweets and random photos and narratives, so much is made up.
Yes.
And obviously, this documentary, like, is made by her and she's putting forward something, but you can't deny what she's showing.
Right.
Which is, first of all, she's a genius.
Genius.
Can we just say it?
She's a genius.
Like, if she was a man, everyone would be, like, talking about her.
Like, literally like, like, um, a philosopher.
Like, she's a genius.
Yeah.
When she speaks, everything she says is so astute and smart.
And then three and a half hours on stage, Paige and I, Paige and I after, it's all, it's all I thought about.
Three and a half hours.
I was like, I, did you see the one part where she was like, I'm sorry, I'm just like, her mom comes in.
She was like, I'm just like a little, like, she wants to say anxious.
Yes, she's happy.
All I could think of was like, do you take beta blockers?
Like, I wanted to know.
I mean, seeing her get home from the show, take off her makeup and be like,
oh, I'm like, I'm just going to watch TV for eight hours.
Yeah, it's like, I can't come down.
We were like, we were like, Taylor Swift.
I felt like Taylor Swift.
But think about how much more she's doing.
I've died.
You know what I love to?
I love that she was like, I don't remember choreography.
Yeah.
So.
And I go, I love, but it's, she's normalizing.
She's like, don't count to me.
That's disgusting.
You don't have to be perfect.
She's like, I know what my strengths are.
I'm really fucking good at what I do.
And then I hire people to do the right things around me.
And then, like, the fact that she trusts the people around her so much that she's like,
I need to step it up for them.
She's like, I have the best people in the business.
And then also, I thought it was crazy when she was like, look, if the tour makes more money
than projected, then that means everyone gets bonuses, which like when you hear that said,
you're like, oh, yeah, that makes sense.
Like, it gross more money, whatever.
But to then find out that, like, that happens all the time where the tour will
make more money than projected and not the majority of artists are not tipping their crew like
extra I think speaks volumes well there look there's two types of people in the world probably more
but one kind is like I earn this this is me hoard all the money and I and all these people are so
lucky to fucking be here yeah and then there's people who are like oh my god I wouldn't be here
without all these people who left their families also the happier they are
it starts from the bottom
like if the person driving you is content
and everything comes up from that
everyone is happier and I do think
what's cool about Taylor is you see like
she knows she can make an impact
and like what they say in Spider-Man
with great power comes great responsibility
like she knows that she can change
someone's life and she does
so the documentary is fascinating
and I'm upset I never was able to go to the show
I went to the one at MetLife, and it was incredible.
I mean, like, she is a performer.
Like, and I've been to a lot of concerts before, and you're like, oh, my God, she's such
a cute little dancer, and she's so good.
But Taylor is giving a full Broadway.
There's no other way to describe it.
It's a full Broadway theatrical performance.
She's telling a story.
She's talking to you.
She's bringing on guests.
I mean, three hours.
I couldn't even tell you another concert I've been to that was over two hours.
You can't do anything for three hours.
No.
No.
And how she did it every single night.
And then.
And focusing.
To go where she went like 220 places or something.
Yeah.
I do love her relationship with her mom.
I love her relationship with her mom.
I also think that she's so mentally strong.
Like to be able to meet with those families where they had children that were killed.
And then for her to be able and she's crying hysterically.
And then to be able to be like, no.
Compartmental.
it. Now I have to go on stage. I'm like, I can't even. Also, a lot of people would be like,
I'm not meeting with the families before the show. It's going to fuck me up. Can we find a different
time? All I was thinking was before the show. She probably doesn't have time. And also I think that
she also was like, I need to do this. I need to see these people. And then did you see when she gets
off stage, she walks off stage straight into the car? Like there's no, she's not changing. She's
not stopping. She's just going. And as someone who sees a lot of people,
tour. Some people like tour as a party. I don't get that. And they have like 20 people with
them at all times. Yeah. And there it's it's just a different kind of, she's a lot of, she's an
athlete. She's treated like a sport, which is what we tried to do. There's a lot of jobs that I would
say that like men take and just make alcohol events. But then they try and say they're working.
And you're like, nope, that's just you and your friends are getting drunk. So. Men invented meetings.
Have you ever watched Mad Men?
Yeah, all they do is have scotch
and then talk about the secretary for 20 minutes
and then be like, okay.
And it's like, why is there a male loneliness of a time?
It's like, guys.
One thing I have learned to motivate the gigglers
is like, now that I'm in my 30s,
you know, you deal with,
you're not like entry-level job anymore.
Yeah.
So you talk to people that are like high up at companies.
So scary.
You guys, no one knows what they're doing.
No one.
No one knows what they're doing.
Like, I hope this makes you feel
better. Oh, my recent flex, though.
Unless you work, and let's
be very clear. Unless you're like
a lawyer or a doctor and you
yeah, that type of profession, you guys know
unless you're honestly a woman
in the field. But like there's just a lot of people
that have just like been at the job for a while.
They're there. Like they're not
like, they're not doing something crazy
that you can't do. Have some belief
in yourself. You were mentioning emails
with men putting exclamation mark in emails. Now
by the way, I'm not part of a company
so don't do what I do because I
like, I'm an entrepreneur.
Yep.
My recent flex in emails is like no grammar.
Have you noticed?
So it looks like I'm so, because I actually am busy.
Yeah.
So like I respond like I'm so busy, but I'm just barely getting the response out.
Like, like no period.
You're literally on every email I want.
So I'll just be like.
And you know what when I see Hannah respond?
I go, oh, Hannah respond.
So this is what I'll say this works thank you.
And I'll be like all under case.
No period.
I don't even put a space until my signature.
Just this works, thank you, Hannah Burner.
Yeah.
Because it's just like we're, we're, I'm not like, hello.
Thank you for regarding my last email.
No, we don't have time.
And I try and do that.
Time is money.
But then after I send that text or that email with no punctuation or I'm just like
blunt ask the question, I'm like, everyone thinks I'm a bitch.
No, I don't think that.
I think it's funnier though if you like have bad grammar and you're trying to be like
sincerely.
When you're trying to be like more.
And it doesn't make sense.
I left that when I left.
And do you know why?
Because if your email has multiple paragraphs, I'm not reading it.
Also, sue me.
I'm throwing it an L-O-L every once in a while.
You love an L-L.
And you love what Hannah says, L-O-L.
Because they're like, Paige, Paige, what do you think?
Whatever Hannah said, L-O-L.
Well, look, millennials are running stuff now so we can say L-O-L.
Absolutely.
It's mandatory.
Can I say one more thing about Game-N?
Yes, it's my favorite topic.
Jonathan Bailey, who's the most handsome person in the world, is the first gay, sexiest man alive.
And I think we're just acknowledging that, first of all, all men are probably gay.
Yeah.
So we might as well pick an out gay man now.
I'm pretty sure we said last sexiest man alive that it should have been Jonathan Bailey.
He's so attractive.
Do you see when he really thinks something's funny and he like falls over?
I'm like, that's adorable.
Are you like attracted to him?
Like would you hook?
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm also attracted to pretty much everyone in heated rivalry.
Oh, yeah, who do you like more?
Specifically, the...
Don't say the Russian.
No.
You know I don't like a blonde.
You hate a blonde.
Oh, you like the hairy one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because he looks a little Italian.
I love him.
Is he gay in real life, you think?
He is.
Which is crazy.
That's good for them, but that's bad.
He's Canadian.
I looked him up.
By the way, the Russian guy in heated rivalry.
was every single one of my Russian coaches growing up.
Is he gay in real life?
I don't know.
They haven't said.
It's like kind of part of the allure.
Oh, interesting.
Yeah.
So I just grew up with like handsome young Russian and Ukrainian tennis coaches in Brooklyn
who like looking back now, I'm like they were definitely hung over.
They were partying, having a good time.
But I was, they would just yell at me and I was nine years old and I'd be like, can I have water, Sergey?
And they'd be like, no, bend your knees.
But they were all so hot.
So I got some PSD, PTSD.
TTSJ, DSTP watching it.
But my final thing about hot gay men, the reason I like them so much is because they're
my type and that they don't like you.
They don't like me.
They are so disgusted by me and I'm like, oh, I love that.
Yeah.
Oh!
I stand around them.
They're like, can you please just walk away?
Yeah, I don't know what's attracted me to all my gay boy friends.
I think just like hair and jawline, you know.
I think they're attracted to you because they want to be.
you. And then you like attention. I thought it is. I attract them. Yeah. And then you like people
who like you. So next thing you know, you're just in it. I had a fun time in Mexico. Thank you for
asking. Oh, sorry. No, I'm just kidding. It was literally three days. Yeah. Have you ever been able to
go on a vacation and not have to leave early from work? It's hard. Yeah. It's hard because we don't
have, we don't love work-life balance on this podcast. But I did have to leave.
to do this like shoot on Friday that's like my face is in it so I'm like this is perfect like
I'm going to get a tan yeah and I'm really excited and then Des goes let's go snorkeling by the way
never been snorkeling before I'm from Brooklyn we don't snorkel snorkel it's not sky it's not
scuba diving it's not scuba diving it's actually it's so funny because it you're underwater like
it's intense and you have the little yeah you're breathing
thing underwater, but if someone, and you feel like you are scuba diving, but if someone
looks from the outside, you're just lying in like the, in like the beginning of the water.
Yeah.
Just like flapping around.
Yeah.
But it, it was so beautiful.
Did it just the two of you or it was like a group of people?
It was just the two of us who just went out and there are all these different colored fish
and there was one fish that was so page-coded.
It was like navy with these beautiful polka dots.
Oh my God.
It was like Pocodon.
Perfectly poca.
I was like, every other fish was like these bright neon colors.
And this was like navy polka dot just like, and had these like cute lips.
I was like, oh my God, there's page.
I kept going pagefish.
She's like, sorry, I'm on holiday.
She's on holiday.
So like get out of the water and we take our goggles off.
Sorry, I don't know words.
Yeah.
And he has like a mark on his forehead.
And I'm like, ha, I have a mark.
And he's like, so do you.
And we go and we're eating.
And he's like, by the way, like the mark on your forehead's like not going away.
I'm like, that's weird.
And we get back.
to the hotel and I look, I busted a blood vessel in my forehead because I snapped it too tight
on my face because I was so afraid I was going to be drowned. So I was like, I need to make sure
we're going underwater. So I made it too tight and snapped it. I popped a blood vessel.
You're like you just pop your fucking eyeball. No, I know. I popped a blood vessel in the middle
of my forehead where like it was like all like it. Wait, do you have a picture? No, I was like that
upset it didn't i'll look and then i'll put in the newsletter but like i start freaking out because i'm
like i can't show up to this gig with a huge red like i tried to put makeup on it it wasn't working
and it wasn't a bump like it didn't hurt it just something popped under my skin and it was like
leaking awesome so i love vacation what it does say you're like ah this is a perfect time to emergency
see contact do anything you're like fine i'll call my mom he was like how the fuck did that happen
to you it didn't happen to me that is so you though that is so if it would happen it it happened
also i like i'm so delusional by like the third day i was convinced that i was fluent in spanish
like you know the first day you're like oh my god i can't speak spanish and third day i was like
i know what third time well people say that you learn the fastest
when you're immersed in it.
I literally was like,
you're like,
okay, they're fighting.
Interesting.
I fully knew, I was like,
well, this is my problem with Spanish.
I was trying to learn grammar.
Apparently, you don't learn grammar first.
You learn the words.
Grammar last,
but in school they teach you grammar first.
I digress.
That's just.
Did you see Kristen Stewart doing that interview being like,
hey, let me ask you a question.
You ever heard of a woman being a method actor?
No.
Because it's not a thing.
It's disrespectful and weird.
It's so weird.
It just says like you have nothing going on at home.
You can stay this person, you freak.
Like that's like when awesome butler like became Elvis and like he's still Elvis.
Yeah.
Well, also it's definitely not ideal.
Like it definitely throws everyone off on set when like you're at, you know, crafty and you're like,
excuse me, can I please have some more of the cheats?
It's like you're not McJagger in real life.
Like this is a biopic.
Chill out.
Like if I was married to an actor and he came home and he was that same character,
I'm like, you're not a toddler.
We're not playing these pretend games anymore.
I'd have to move out.
I do think too with acting, which is kind of scary.
Like, you know, he's ledger with the Joker.
Yeah.
They say, like, the way you think, you know, affects your life.
And if you're in, like, a really dark character and you're constantly having these, like, negative
thoughts. It does affect
who you are as a person. People
have had like really dark.
But I was just so happy she said that
because it's like... I love her.
Because we had had that whole conversation where like
men can talk so passionately about
their careers and about their jobs
and like women can't because
it's like who you have kids like
the same thing with like the Whitney Leavitt like
but what do your kids do it? It's like what?
Well I've been talking on stage about having
kids and I'm like coming up with
all these reasons why it could be difficult and I
literally just been sporting out. I'm not a male comedian. I can't just have a family.
No. No. I can't just have a family and then joke about my wife and kids on stage every night
while my wife is like sewing her butthole and her vagina together again. Like there are people really
don't talk about it. Like I'm type A. I love a plan. I love like, you know, sitting down and
being like what's the next five years. Yeah. But like women have to do that. Yeah. Yeah. Like we
have to plan our children because you all turn everyone turns against you it's like oh and i'm also
planning on my downfall yeah like i'm literally planning my own downfall i'm digging my own grade it's very
like out-of-body experience and i do think it's important we talk about it because we are like
second generation of any women having to deal with this i called my mom crying when i realized i have
i have to i'm not calling my husband crying you have to i have to call my husband crying you have to
test her like is she going to be perfect she picked up but i obviously was like she's like how are you
i'm like good she's like are you sure i'm like actually but i basically was crying about like that i
think i'm like might become a mom one day and i was so confused as to why i was crying you know
when you don't know why you're crying and then i was like looking into it and they were like oh
you're grieving your past self like i was literally crying over the death of my identity that i am now
that i still am but i know i'm going to lose i had a man one time asked to move in
together and I immediately started crying like no but it's also it's not sad because I'm gonna be
that it's just sad that you you're not gonna be what you were you didn't realize that it at what
some point it was gonna be over and it might be 100% better but it's just still like sad to lose
anything yeah it's just scary and I know male comedians whose wife have had a baby and the next day
they're on stage working out material yeah leaving their wife at home the same as like graduating college
and then you're going into the real world
and you're like,
it probably will be better,
but this is all I know.
And what do you mean?
We don't have a mixer on Friday night.
Like, it's just like it's a different...
You're so L Woods.
You're so L Woods.
But you know what?
I want to say something positive.
It motivates me.
Yeah.
Like seeing, like, the Ali Wong's and...
Well, it also...
It's like, how is there even a debate
that, like, men or women
that men are better than women?
It's like...
Guys, we have kids.
I actually said this earlier to someone.
I can't wait for Gen Z to be at the age where they're having children
because they're going to get some things done.
Them with their tight, tight boundaries and they have a headache, they must leave.
I'm so pumped for them to get into the position of, like, people being rude
because their moms or, like, their jobs changing because they're pregnant.
Because I can't wait for them to be like, hold on.
I know.
A man could literally never, so you're not telling me anything.
Well, yeah, I face the thing where it's like, okay, I can just accept that other male comedians in stand-up will ascend past me after I have kids.
But then I stop and I go, actually, no, I'm going to keep my foot on these bitches next because it's going to be difficult and it's going to be hard.
And I am lucky because I have a mom who's going to help me.
Women can't even post their like after baby body without the internet being like.
Fuck you.
Like, if you post your after baby body and you, like, lost weight, people are like,
how dare you?
Not the norm.
But if you post it and it's like, and you didn't lose weight, it's like, well, why don't
you think about your health?
Like, there is no right thing for women.
Also why I feel like female comics are so interesting, like, why people want to hear
Leanne Morgan talk because I'm like, I want to hear a woman who's had, who has three
grandchildren and three babies and has dealt with her husband.
And, like, that's fascinating to me.
Like, I don't want to hear another dude, like.
make like sly comments about his wife that you know is like so annoyed with him like you're not
like she's annoyed with you you're not the cool one on stage right now she's like oh he's doing his
little jokes speaking of boundaries have you seen TikTok this drama about solid core
like a little bit do you know that I live right next to a solid core which apparently it's like
Pilates I wouldn't I don't even dare look at it apparently it's Pilates but like super intense I'm scared
and I'm working on loving myself, so I haven't been going.
So this guy, who by the way needs to get casted in reality TV,
like if someone doesn't cast him, they're bonkers.
He's this gay guy in Dary in Connecticut.
I first saw him because he was just talking about what the Equinox steamroom is like
and just talking about how married men were trying to hook up with him the whole time,
which we have a theme for the pod today.
Wait, the Equinox steam room downtown?
In Dary and Connecticut.
Oh, because the Equino...
Yeah, it's all the Equinoxes.
Everyone's gay.
Equinoi.
he basically was like this guy fully was like flirting with him for six months showing him
his dick has a wife um so he shows up to he clearly loves solidcore more than anything he and
he shows with solid core 6 am the instructor's not there but the door he has like a log in the doors open
he goes in and he's filming it and he like starts giving himself a private lesson at solid core because
he loves solid core and then the instructor comes in late and they're just laughing whatever he posts the
video. Solid core starts freaking out. Like, can you take it down? His friend messaged him. But why are they
freaking out? Because he was in there by himself. Yeah. And it makes them look unprofessional.
Yeah. And he literally then films a video being like, fuck you solid core for like telling my friend to
tell me to take it down. You're so unprofessional. It goes off. Then next day shows up at the
solid core class. The 6 a.m. class. filming it. And you hear the lady be like, hey. That's all I saw.
Like, hey, you're saying, sorry about the video.
Yeah, he goes, sorry about the video.
And then I just heard her say, well, my probation?
I think so she was going to say, well, my probation makes me apologize to you or something.
So he's in like a full feud with this solid core, but he keeps showing up because he loves solacore so much.
He's like, they could punch my mom in the face and I would still show up to the solid court class.
So everyone's like- What is it?
Is it like?
It's hardcore Pilates.
Okay.
So you're not like running or anything.
No, no, no.
It's Pilates, but just like a-strength training.
intense, yeah.
So, yeah, I don't want to ever go.
People in the comments are so funny because they're like, I know, I feel like this is a solid
core ad.
I just can't put my finger on it.
But then everyone's like, I want to have the boundaries and the how he's dealing with
conflict.
Well, he's not a people pleaser at all.
He's dealing with conflict, like, so well.
But the thing is, he is just, he is a man.
Yeah.
Which helps.
But everyone's just watching how he just walks into a class.
Like, I would move out of the state.
Yeah.
If I got, if anyone's mad at me.
Well, because if it was a girl, that would be girl on girl crime.
Mean girl, mean girl, mean girl.
He's hilarious.
He's a star, put him on reality TV.
Yeah.
But yeah, the misogyny of men getting away with so many horrible things.
And a girl will do one thing that's like off color or like something every girl's done.
Yeah.
And we're like, she's a monster.
She's a monster.
She's evil.
So anyway, you're all perfect.
We love you guys so much.
We do have some announcements coming up, but just stay posted.
I can't wait to hear them.
I guess I'll see it on email.
Thank you.
