Giggly Squad - Giggling about gorgina, gossip pits, and jury duty

Episode Date: January 16, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:02 Sup gigglers. Gary, fix the Wi-Fi. Manifest that shit. We can't be managed. Okay, this was Pages. What's up my Gorgina Gigglers? Yes. That was actually a thing in 2016.
Starting point is 00:00:21 I called everyone Gorgina. Gorgine. Gorgine. I think Courtney K started it. And then you'd like go to Starbucks and say your name is Gorgina because you wanted them to yell Gorgina. Okay. I didn't take it that far.
Starting point is 00:00:36 Wait. What started this whole 2016? everyone posted their 2016 photos. Okay, some girl did a TikTok. It's always one girl that said in 2016, the Chicago Cubs won the World Series. That should have never happened. That put us on the wrong timeline. And so they're saying that if the Chicago Bears win the Super Bowl, we're going to be put back on the timeline.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Why everyone's hating on the Chicago team? Chicago's like, why are we getting involved in this mess? You know what, since this is a sports podcast. Chicago catching strays. The only time that we like keep up with football is like when it's about to be the Super Bowl, which I have to tell the giggler. One thing that I always think about, and not just because like I've made New York City my personality for the past 10 years, but. Sorry, New York is carrying the country on their back. Why do they have so many sports teams?
Starting point is 00:01:38 It's not just like one sports team. It's like they have two and each thing. Well, we have, New York has three. And then you go a little further down the map. Hey guys, why don't you pull some weight? Anyone ever gone to a South Carolina football game? I don't fucking think so. Well, they're into colleges, like South Carolina, the game cocks.
Starting point is 00:02:02 And that says a lot. And that says a lot. Okay, yeah, they're college. That actually makes so much sense because that's where they've peaked and stuck. You know? And then it's like, we're like in New York. We're like, great, that was so cute in college. Here's the professional big leagues.
Starting point is 00:02:17 All the gigglers from South Carolina are like, I just turned this on to enjoy my week. I'm just getting flames. Sorry, my glasses on today. Wait, Paige's outfit. You actually are giving like aunt, like your version of aunt who like went to Harvard but then took ayahuasca and her life took a turn. and her life took a turn for the arts. Yes. I was like, I went just, I was pre-med, I'm a doctor.
Starting point is 00:02:43 But I found this passion in pottery. And now we make insane bongs. Like I, yeah, I have like my own weed line. You got a drug addiction, but you're pretty, so it looks fashionable. Yeah, so they're like, she's like heroin chic though. No, I'm obsessed with this. Well, last episode you made me nervous because you were like, we should start doing our outfits.
Starting point is 00:03:07 And so then this week I was like, oh, we're doing our outfits. And then I walked in, I go, guess we're not doing our outfits? I was going to say, I didn't brush my hair for the YouTubers. I have to apologize. I didn't brush my hair. Well, I put an outfit on actually before. And I was like, I can't, I had to iron it, but I didn't want to. And I was like, I can't wear this because the gigglers get really upset when.
Starting point is 00:03:26 They'd rather you just not, then show up with a crinkle. Yeah, they don't want you to half ass it. And I actually agree. Like, just don't do. Just do what I do. They don't have ass, either full ass or no ass. The thesis line of Giggly Squad is do it full on. And if you're not, don't do it at all.
Starting point is 00:03:44 And we lean with the ladder. But do you know what's sad? This is actually a curated outfit. I was going to wear like a little yoga top. But then I was like, Hannah, Paige can't handle when your boobs are out. She gets very weird. She starts having all these like saying you should do this more. I don't like all the attention.
Starting point is 00:04:03 So then I was like, I'm going to wear this like New York tennis shirt. and then do high socks. Like I want to be like brunette princess Diana if she wasn't as where you go. You're a red hen. So true. Let's just get right into it. Let's talk about the Golden Globes.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Oh. Nikki. Incredible. Incredible. Incredible. If she was a man, people would be like. There would be a statue somewhere. She'd have 10 Netflix specials already.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Like done the deal. The deal would have been out. She would have been in the Jumanji movie already. She'd be on every AT&T commercial. Not that she's not doing well, by the way. She's doing incredible. What is the celebrity pipeline to phone commercials? It is like, it's always like.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Once you hit AT&T, you know, she is. You're like, Jason Bateman does T-Mobile. That's so interesting. Obviously, like, top line is Amy Polar, queen. Oh. I love that she won the Golden Globe for Best Podcast. First year, it's the category. started her podcast 10 months ago based on I see so many men doing it not well.
Starting point is 00:05:14 I can do it 10 times better with giving 25% of the effort. And she really did. And now look, Amy is like a grown adult. She's so sweet, so nice. I don't feel like she is a vindictive bone in her body. And I think she's actually said that she has a very good relationship with her ex-husband, Will, or not who they have two children with. But there had to be a little bit, just a small ounce of.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Now watch me walk up on this stage and accept this award, something you've been doing for five years. Now, as Italians, we knew what was happening in the room in that moment. Beautiful. We're dancing in our grapes. That was art. That was pure art. One thing I do want to point out about the Golden Globes Was the budget cut?
Starting point is 00:06:09 What was the room? It felt like the ceiling was very low. Like when they did like a full pan of the room, I was like, wait, is this in like a gymnasium? It felt like a little comedy club. I do feel like every time there's an award season, it's like the first time I've ever seen an award season. And it's the first time I'm like, wait, we just had an award show yesterday.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Yeah. Now we're doing another award show today. It makes me feel like movies are just made for this award show. run. I'm so happy you said that because I had to look up. I literally said, went to Google and I said, the difference between all the award shows, give it to me now. No one knows the difference. They're like, these people are voting, but they're just saying different academies that I think it's one guy in a booth. The Golden Globes are voted on from, no, foreign press. Foreign by, foreign press. What is the foreign press? So anyone who writes articles about the industry, about the TV shows,
Starting point is 00:07:04 about the movies, about the actors. They're voting. But it's not the critic's choice. The critics are different than the press. The critics are the people, like of America. The people can vote on the people's, the critics' choice. And you know what is kind of annoying is that to win the Oscar. Which is the Academy.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Which is the Academy, who we apologize for. Yeah. You have to have, like, it's all politics. And then the SAG Awards, which I think they renamed to the Actors Awards, that's each, they're voting on each other. So I would say that, I would say that the celebrities probably care. They want the- Possibly about the actor awards.
Starting point is 00:07:46 They want the Oscar. Also, the actor awards are all just voting for themselves. And they say like whoever wins the Golden Globe, that's usually like who will win the Oscar. Mm-hmm. Can I say what's pissing me off? Yeah. I've been holding it.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Okay. She's fine, in it. Hudson. my sweet sweet Hudson Williams. Yeah. He's being hilarious. Like he's running around and having fun. He's shot into fame, which honestly is so scary.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Like I can't even imagine. And side note, everyone was like, why doesn't Amy Poehler have a, have a, why isn't she a late night talk show host? Because podcasts are where it's at, baby. You think she wants to go into New York City every day and? Well, media's just changed so much in the past 10 years. She wants to have our podcast. Anyway, I digress.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Hudson and everyone's like, I love how he's just so free and so whatever. And it's like, because he hasn't had his first, you know, people getting mad at him. They'll let him be free for six months. Then let you be free for a bit. And then you realize, oh, I need to shut up on a cancellation in August. Yeah. He poses for the glam bot and puts two middle fingers up, which was iconic. Like, put it in the Louvre.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Kylie Jenner gets a casual photo taken sitting at the, and puts two fingers up. The comments are like she's trash. She's horrible. She should be burned at the stake. She's horrible. Her whole family's horrible. Her mother's horrible.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Her business is horrible. And under Hudson's, everyone's just like, this is my king. Protect him at all costs. Imagine taking the time. You see a photo of arguably one of the most famous people in the world, Kylie Jenner. You take the time to go to your keyboard and go, What trash scent. Sorry, that's so diabolical.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Like, look, we have a pot. Look, actually, I talk shit all day long. It's like one of my favorite things to you. In the comfort of my own home. You freaks. Yeah. I'll text my friend. People that like talk shit about people like consecutively.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Like you know each week like they're going to have, they're going to post something negative about someone. Oh, that's got to be such bad energy like in your own body. I think it's how they feel about themselves. Yeah. Do you know how many celebrities that in my head? I'm like, oh, what trash? But I would never say it on the internet.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Oh, God. But yeah, I didn't, I watched like some of the aftermath of it all. And I feel like the outfits were fun. I was happy. I feel like a lot of people looked really good. It's so funny. One of my favorite outfits was Emma Stone and she was dressed in Louisville.
Starting point is 00:10:33 I could see you in that. I could see you in it. I had a lot of girls. It's so funny when you post fashion because it's so split. Yes. It's like such a good example of like, wow, the internet's so weird. Yeah. The first message is like, disgusting.
Starting point is 00:10:46 The next one is like, that's perfect. The best ever. Yeah, yeah. I did get so many messages. From girls being like, you would like this one. And I was like, well, people were like it looks like a cheese slice. But it just, it looked cool, girl. It was so cool.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Like I think she's so pretty. It was so funny because, oh, I don't want to make you mad or anything, but one of your friends DM'd me. And we did do a little bit backing for him. Which one? Your friend Gabby. My blonde friend. Your blonde friend.
Starting point is 00:11:24 So she DM'd me off the Emma Stone picture. And she was like something like, oh, I love this one. And I was like, it's so funny. So many people are getting mad at me for posting this. God forbid I love when an upper blef is done well And someone's on the right amount of Ozambic Like let me get give me a break And so she like said something back
Starting point is 00:11:43 That was very funny and we just like had a little bit And I was like so Hannah's friend is my friend too Well it's funny because Gabby loves you But Gabby like respects our marriage And also like it needs to be like you I don't know you guys haven't met in person I know which is like kind of weird So Gabby's always like this page like me I'm like she loves you
Starting point is 00:12:00 It's just you never met Anytime I scroll a clip of hers, I always hit a light because I'm like, that's my, I'm supporting my friend's friend's friend. It's a family tree. That's my friend-in-law. That's my literal friend in-law. And that's like a funny thing when you like meet a friend through a friend. There is that respect of like, that's my friend's friend. But also there's a certain kind of friend where you're like, if you hadn't met her first, I would have been your friend too and I approve of you. Yeah. And but I just sort of. around myself with hot blondes. That's all I do. You're no better than a man. You're no better than a man. I actually, you know what? We give a lot of hate to men, but I'm
Starting point is 00:12:43 quite misogynistic. Like there are so many times where I'm like, you could have put makeup on. You could smile. You're not having a good time? I did get on my TikTok. Someone was like, where have all the size eight's gone? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:12:58 And I said, maybe I've been here. Whatever happened to having some ovaries. You know what I always think about? And I want to say it was like 2013. And it was Jessica Simpson. I think she'd like just had a baby like a month prior. And they attacked her.
Starting point is 00:13:15 And like you look at those pictures now and you're like, so she was the size six, you freak. There was drama too about like Amy Schumer when she was doing all those movies. And she was like, I'm the ugly fat girl. And everyone's like, you are beautiful, blonde. Yeah Size 8 Yeah
Starting point is 00:13:30 And everyone's like Look at this fat girl Who's starring No it's great Starring in a movie Thank God she's funny Because if she wasn't funny No one would put her anywhere
Starting point is 00:13:40 It's so true And Amy had to play the like But that is what Giggly Squad is about And I hate to say it And I'm so biased about the gigglers But it's just a bunch of like Really hot funny women Who listen to our pod
Starting point is 00:13:54 And I've done the research I've been in the bathroom I see who comes in says hi to me. Someone said that me in public bathrooms is Amy Polar. Grace, we posted it, Amy Polar wearing the Jeremy hat. Anyway, I'll see you guys in the bathroom. Anywho, um, wait, that couple I was talking about last episode, um, that broke up because the husband cheated, they're like a TikTok couple. Uh, I wasn't like fully invested in the couple when they were posting, but I knew of them on TikTok, whatever. And she would post cute, like, funny videos of like,
Starting point is 00:14:25 she would go to like a shoe store and be like oh i'm getting these new shoes and then she would just like run down the aisle and be like oh okay yeah i'm gonna get like stupid little videos so it comes out that her husband that she's been with since she was 14 years old they had like just done a post that they had been together now longer than they've been apart they have two kids together comes out that he had cheated on her she immediately files for divorce like she's gone the internet's like and women like you should take a page out of her book that's how you do it you absolutely leave immediately. Stop judging how women deal with their men, but anyway, continue.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Nada, 24 hours later, the internet had completely flipped on her. Well, she's actually annoying and her videos were never funny. Imagine being married to her and having to deal with that. She's the problem. And the women were like, she makes like 10 mil a year. I'm sure he was fine laughing in a couple of videos. They have completely flipped on her. And now it's like, well, he probably just like got really annoyed.
Starting point is 00:15:25 And that's why he cheated. So like, I get it. Not as, this is our second episode getting messy, but like the algorithms are controlling our lives. It's so scary. And the, when people, people aren't even, I don't think care that much. They just want attention. So when they see someone jumping on a bandwagon, they will post like this bad, like angry
Starting point is 00:15:45 take on someone because they know it'll get views. Yeah. So we're in this like anger economy of like whoever's calling people out gets the most views. And it's like the next you know, everyone's just attacking everyone. and it's a civil war. That's why I love Amy. Happy Friday. No, that's why I'm so happy Amy Polar won the Golden Globe because her hour of her
Starting point is 00:16:06 podcast truly is a true escape. Bubbles, rainbows, lollipops, joy. Let's laugh. Yes, what's next on the docket? I have a lot. Okay, this is going to piss you off. Have you heard the stranger things drama? Now what is it?
Starting point is 00:16:23 So I haven't watched it. I stopped after season one episode two. So yeah. I stopped after I think season two. But I support Millie Bob Brown, obviously. So the last episode, everyone is like, the last couple episodes, but for sure the last episode, people are like, it's like diabolically bad. Like the writing.
Starting point is 00:16:45 The last season. Yeah, like the writing is off. It just seems like a different show. Like worse than like Game of Thrones. They were like, oh, we didn't like the decision. But this was like something was wrong. Like the dialogue. was like that doesn't sound like that character yeah so they realized that the writer of the show
Starting point is 00:17:01 who's been like considered like one of the greatest writers of all time whatever in tv got a divorce okay from his wife okay during the time that it still wasn't finished being written and people are now realizing that she was like probably and this is a legend she was a ghost writer because I think she's a writer as well. So people are like, they're just look at the timelines and they're like, when she left him, he wasn't done writing the show. And the show ended like shit. So what do we do with that information?
Starting point is 00:17:39 So anyway. If I had a nickel. If I had a motherfucking nickel. Yeah. Keep going. No, that's it. That's it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:48 I just wanted to piss you off. When you were talking about it, I thought you were going to say, because I, then remembered I saw something that people thought it was chat GPT. Which, you know, we can add that to the flame. The only writer that I acknowledge is Shonda fucking runs. Like, I'm sorry. If that many shows can come out of one human, she is my chat GPT. Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:11 I think that that, how do you, we've never talked about this. Let's get into some fintech. How do you feel about like if there's like AI actresses or like if a show is completely written by chat GPT. Like I almost borderline think it should be like illegal. Well, it's just really depressing. And I come from like the creative background where a lot of the comics were like, well, they'll never replace humor.
Starting point is 00:18:38 They never place humor. But these motherfuckers are getting smart. Like they're getting smarter every. Except then they're also super dumb. Like there's a video clip going around that if you ask chat GPT like to spell strawberry, it spells it wrong. Well, because it's pulling from. sources from humans and humans aren't smart smart and it goes based off you it's algorithmic yeah so like
Starting point is 00:19:02 it learns you so it knows what to say it's very scary it's very manipulative it starts to tell you what you want to hear well and that's why men are getting in relationships with them um so that then that's not a myth i'm i'm scared about it i'm scared about it we're scared about it i saw i robot i mean yeah that's all that's all I'm going to say about that. Also, we did. And then they're going to think they're going to start making them look like Megan Fox. Get the fuck out of my home. Literally.
Starting point is 00:19:33 You think I'm bringing in a Megan Fox AI bought into my home. Also, Megan Fox better get her money for that if they're using her facial features. Well, that, like, they made that movie. I mean, she played it. Oh, sorry. I missed that one. That's okay. I was, there's also the, it's okay.
Starting point is 00:19:48 We were, yeah. Wait, a giggler messaged me and just said, I don't know if this is true, but she said to me that she was getting jury duty and you know where they asked like questions. Did you get? I screenchotted it. I screen shotted it. I think I screenshot it too. And I DM'd her back.
Starting point is 00:20:09 I was like, I'm crying. Okay, so Giggler DM does and says, hey, funny story. I got jury duty and they ask you a series of questions. And one of the questions was what was your, what's your favorite podcast? She's a giggly squad immediately dismissed. I'm like you're too powerful. Shut out Ruth Fernandez who said it to us. Do you want to know?
Starting point is 00:20:30 Okay. Have you ever had jury duty? Yeah, I got dismissed. Have you ever had jury duty? Yeah. Okay. I've only ever had it one time. I was also dismissed, but it's the, it's not the people.
Starting point is 00:20:44 It's not the government that picks. It's the lawyers. The opposite. What is that? The defendants. They are picking the jury, not the process. prosecutor. So I wonder.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Puts on glasses, suddenly knows law and order. Well, I got out of it because I said my brother is a lawyer and he works for the people. And so I am biased toward that, whatever. Got me right out of there. If you want to get out of jury duty, just say you listen to Giggly Squad. I wonder if they know like Giggly Squad is so anti- like men. If the case was like something with like, obviously it was probably a guy.
Starting point is 00:21:25 I mean, this guy. They commit 100% of the crimes. And so I wonder if they were like, no, she's so pro-women. I don't know, but it just made me really proud. Same. I read it in my like bed the other night and I was like, that's beautiful. And also there's no better feeling than getting dismissed from jury duty. You're like, see you later, suckers. And then everyone goes in and everyone goes, how do I get out of it? And then you feel like you're in some kind of like Jumanji.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Yeah. And I called every lawyer. I freaking knew when I got jury duty. Like, what do I do to get out? When I got jury duty is I had an hourly job. Yeah. Yeah. When they were like, okay, you have to be here for two weeks for like 100 bucks.
Starting point is 00:22:05 I was like I'm actually losing money. But then I feel like it. They should round up all the male loneliness. Make them the drip. Put them to work. That's camaraderie. But there's people with jobs who like they can't just leave for two weeks. It's also people are like caretakers.
Starting point is 00:22:22 like they really can't leave, like moms, really, who's watching the kids? Every now and then, there's a case that you know you're like, this is going to be good. And I'm sad. On that note, one time my eyelash lady had jury duty, and let me tell you, that couple of weeks of getting my eyelashes done, no teeth like I've ever heard before. And funnily enough, she was doing a juror case for a murder. Okay. Now, this is highly illegal. She's telling me and my mom all of it.
Starting point is 00:22:53 My mom goes, wait a second. I think I know that guy. My mom knew the guy randomly who was on trial for murder. Well, Kim runs in some sketchy circles. I'm pretty sure he, like, murdered his, murdered his wife. Yeah. In jail. I mean, my mom, like, called someone.
Starting point is 00:23:13 She's like, you're never going to get something. And that was my introduction to jury duty. This is my thing, though. When I had jury duty and it was literally like some guy like probably like, probably like didn't give the book back to the library in time. I'm like, I'm not staying here for this shit. I want murder. I want cults.
Starting point is 00:23:28 No, my New York... Kidnapping. My New York City one was crazy. It was like an assault on like an old lady with this guy. And they lived in the same building. It was a really crazy case. And I wanted to know what ended up happening. But I was like, I got to go.
Starting point is 00:23:41 But I will say in jury, when I went, when I did jury duty, and this was probably like five, six years ago. I was very unimpressed by the way the people dressed. I was like, guys. This is the one chance we get. We're sitting on Mahogany. I'm like, guys, Rees Witherspoon is somewhere really disappointed in all of you. We're on display.
Starting point is 00:24:02 No, it's like we're cosplaying. Like, do it for a couple days. Do you want to hear something so embarrassing? I was like, I'm literally going back to the time of my jury. I was like 24, 25. And I guess I might have had a boyfriend at the time. And I got to jury duty and realized I hadn't taken my birth control that morning. And it was that time in your life where you think that like even if you have protected sex,
Starting point is 00:24:25 you're going to have a baby. Turns out much more complicated to get pregnant. Turns out now. Turns out you actually need a needle. You need to inject yourself with some shit. Yeah. I realize that I'm like locked in this place and I like was freaking out that I need to take my birth control. And I started to like potentially have a panic attack because I was like, I'm going to get pregnant
Starting point is 00:24:44 because I'm forced to be in this law building during. And they're not going to let me out. And I almost went to top to be like, I have. to get birth control, but then I was like, fuck it. I'll just have a team pregnancy at 24. Yeah. But I didn't get pregnant. Oh, good. To tell everyone.
Starting point is 00:24:58 We're so happy. Wait, speaking of having a panic attack, I know you tried to watch Tell Me Lies and you couldn't get through it. Do you want to tell them why? Why? I watched only 10 seconds. I just didn't think he was cute. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Hannah didn't think Stephen was hot enough to be. But I don't know his personality yet. I know he's like a douche. I told you, he gets so much hot. Because he lies to everyone? Yes. See, I'm in this place where I'm like, I don't like his, I don't like it. But they're dating in real life.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Is that what makes it like even like more more depth or people don't care? No, you don't really think about it when because when the first season came out, you didn't know they were dating in real life, I don't think. Oh, they dated before the show. I think they started dating like. Also, let's be honest, anyone who's dating someone on a show. like in the storyline, they're actually dating. They tell their partners they're not.
Starting point is 00:25:55 You're fully method acting dating someone. It is funny to watch him in interviews because he does seem so nice. He's so nice. Like he could not be more opposite. But in the new season, if you haven't watched it, clip through this because I'm going to do some spoilers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:11 The first three episodes are out of the third season. In one of the episodes, Grace, she plays a character. Her name's Lucy, is having a panic attack. but she doesn't know what it is. Yeah. And it's the way she acted it was so spot on. I actually had to turn the volume down because I was like, oh, I actually can't
Starting point is 00:26:34 listen to her right now because I'm getting like, she's like, oh, something is weird. Like my hands are, my hands are numb. She's like in my chat. And I'm like, oh my God, she's having a panic attack because he's ruining her life. And it was such, I mean, like I just think every girl has experienced. experience that no matter if it's in your 20s and your 30s like a moment where you're like what's what's where's this coming from and it's like oh everything and she's like well i did drugs two days ago maybe maybe it's that maybe it's like coming out of myself and it's you think of all
Starting point is 00:27:05 these different things and you're just like hey babe you're ruining your life i was like you're not depressed it's the man in your phone and this season is particularly fucked up like stephen plays a really like but you know a guy like that which is a crazy Even with a V or a pH. PH. Don't like that at all. Yeah. Oh, see, I prefer pH over V.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Well, is it Stefan or Stephen? Well, I would say that's with an F. Stefan. You know, male names in general are like, it's hard, I feel like. Do you get a lot of Gigglers DM you about baby names? Not one. Really? Because I would say it once a week.
Starting point is 00:27:52 I'm going, send me some other inspo. No, I'm not loving that. Wait, you asked them to send you baby names. No, they send me a list and they're like, of these four, where are your favorite? Oh, for them naming their child. Yeah. Yeah, no, I forgot. And like, that's a, like, I would say, I'd say 14% of my DMs is being like,
Starting point is 00:28:11 I don't love that middle name with that first. I do get a lot of, what should I name this kitten? Oh, yeah. And I'm like, Oreo, obviously. Or like, Mr. Mr. Snibble. Snibble.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Something insane. I'm like loafer. That's what you name it. Wait. That's adorable. Just think of a random noun. That's what you name it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Hashtag. Hash brown. I actually watched a insane documentary about the Judd family. Oh. Are you familiar with the lore of the Judd family? I'm a little bit familiar with the Judds. So there's the mom. Yep.
Starting point is 00:28:51 stunning gorgeous had a different name but then she changed her name what is her name it's something gorgeous Winona nope that's the daughter Ashley's the other daughter and then we'll insert it right here
Starting point is 00:29:10 oh what it's like Naomi yeah Naomi okay so we got Naomi and Winona yes okay so Naomi so Naomi gets pregnant at 18 and her mother with Winona yes yeah and her mother and she's not married her mother locks the door and it's basically like you're not welcome in this house you've had a baby out of wedlock so she doesn't because they're from like Texas right there's from somewhere in the
Starting point is 00:29:38 south yeah but she's like not really into this guy who she got pregnant with but instead she's like okay I guess I have to fucking marry this guy so she marries this guy and she's not even like that into him and she wants to be a movie star but she's like I just got pregnant at 18 like this fucking sucks and then she gets pregnant again as you do back in the day um and then she has Ashley yeah and then she divorces this guy she's like I hate you yeah but they move to L.A okay she meets another abusive boyfriend gets out of it but she realizes that Wynonna's amazing at singing. So she, like, full, she's like the momager.
Starting point is 00:30:26 And she's like, I'm going to get this girl famous. She's our ticket out. Yeah. And she goes to Nashville. But Wynonna is opposite of her. Wynonna's not into the glam, into the attention. She just happens to be a freakishly good singer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:41 And they, like, sing together. Which the mom is good too. Yeah, right. So what happens is like Winona gets no press or accolades. No accolades, no anything. Yeah. But Naomi's knocking down doors and she's gorgeous and she's like, my daughter is going to be the greatest. Somehow people hear them singing together because sometimes they sing together and they're like, we want you two together.
Starting point is 00:31:07 So they become this like massive duo because no one's ever seen a mother daughter. and they also like look the same. Yeah, redheads. Two redheads. And they're spectacular. Meanwhile, Ashley Judd is just kind of left in a hotel room while this is happening. And Ashley is like very depressed. What, how old is Ashley when like?
Starting point is 00:31:33 Like 16. Okay. So she's like alone in a hotel room. And the other two are trying to like. But in Naomi's mind, she's like, I need to support my family. And Ashley's like, I don't have a family. right now. I can't name one Ashley Judd movie, but I can picture them. There was a period of time where I feel like she was in everything. I loved her as an actress. So she couldn't sing.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Yeah. Which I feel connected with because my mom's a great singer and everyone's like, why don't she sing with your mom? And I'm like, yeah. Not happening. So Ashley Judd could have joined the family thing, but she can't sing. So then she's like, I'm going to be an actress. And she like becomes a fucking huge Hollywood actress. Winona and the mom are getting like huge. So as a family, they just became like huge. But actually the T is apparently Ashley Judd said no to Harvey Weinstein and he fucked her career.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Wow. That's so interesting. I was just going to say I, why did Ashley fall off? Yeah, I feel like late 90s. No, probably like mid all of the 90s. It was the classic. She had a meeting with him at some office. They go, oh, he canceled.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Can you meet him at his hotel? She goes, okay. She gets the hotel, like, what restaurant are we meeting at? They're like, just go to his room. She goes to his room and she ends up, like, getting out. Yeah. But, like, the damage was done. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:03 And he obviously was like, well, you're not cooperating. Yeah. But fast forward. Naomi the mom starts having like really bad panic attacks and depression and just like this is kind of dark. Okay. Sorry. I'm taking you on a world.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Sorry guys. They resorted to having so much fun. This was poor episode. Hannah, wait. I've been actually, I've been meaning to tell you this. Her whole life, all she wanted to do was be in the country music hall of fame. And she gets asked. And then like the day before she does it.
Starting point is 00:33:39 What year was that? In the 90s or the early 2000s. Naomi died in 2022. Oh, she just died. She just died. But she committed suicide. But what happened is, and I want to speak on her as like, she's so sad. She's so fucking strong.
Starting point is 00:34:03 She finds out. Winona Judda still alive. She's 61. Yeah. Through like therapy and stuff, she finds out that she was. she went through really traumatic stuff when she was like three years old and she never dealt with it so like in her later years it started just like coming up and she started just having like all these panic attacks of like suppressed stuff um where the heart is that's the movie i couldn't think
Starting point is 00:34:30 of the name of actually have you ever seen that with um natalie portman and ashley judd no it's one of The best movies of all time. That was such a time of movies. Movies. Do you want to know why? Because I genuinely think there were more movies geared toward women. Like everything now when you go, that's why I'm like, it's so annoying. I don't watch movies I feel like as much. Everything on like Amazon is like a thriller. I'm like I don't want a thriller. I want like a cute rom-com. Well, again, rom-coms were at their height. Yeah, they were at their peak. It's at their peak. But anyway, the- That's why I feel like I'm so. obsessed with Kate Hudson. Yeah. Because like when I think Kate Hudson, I think fun and like a rom-commy and...
Starting point is 00:35:15 She is hilarious. People don't talk about how she's so funny. People don't talk about how funny she is. And people don't talk about, people don't talk enough about Goldie Hawn and Curry Russell. They just don't discuss them enough. No. Never been married to each other. Been together, the longest couple literally in the Hollywood history of the world.
Starting point is 00:35:34 And they stay out of the limelight. Stay out of the limelight. They live in Aspen. They live in Aspen. Yes, they're very she-kney. They have like-snobirds. Massive, like big winter parties. Oh, for, faw-for, faw-for.
Starting point is 00:35:50 But overall, just to wrap, the Judd family is like a very inspirational, beautiful story of motherhood and the connection of your mother and daughters. And how your mom, it's her first time living, too. No, whenever I see that, like, and don't forget to. your mom's first time living too, it makes me really sad. Because, like, you think about it all the times you're like, mom, you're annoying. You know how everything is like cyclical? Yeah. I do feel like our generation specifically, like, and not even generation.
Starting point is 00:36:20 I mean like 33 to 30, like seven. I feel like us being parents is going to be very 90s. Yes. I don't care what you do. Go. Yes. Like, I feel like that's going to be the vibe. You have to teach your kids how to self-soothe.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Well, like, you see all these things where it's like screen time, screen time, iPad, blah, blah, blah, whatever. We're going back to flip phones. Yeah, and then you see all these parents being like, no, like go outside and no phone and all of that stuff. I can't imagine how hard it is to be a parent of like a tween right now, like 13 to 60. But no phones is like definitely getting back. So it's kind of like how when we were growing up TV was like the evil. Yeah. Where now people are like, get off your phone, watch TV.
Starting point is 00:37:08 Like, just watch TV. Stop looking at your phone all the time. Kim's biggest worry were the rug rats. Oh, Angelica wasn't nice enough. Well, buckle up. When my mom would be like, oh, you can't watch Wishbone. I'm like, it's an educational show. And she's like, you're not watching TV right now.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Go outside. Loved Wishbone. We also sometimes we'd only be able to watch TV on the weekends in the morning. And then we had to run around. Like weekend morning, we could watch Fun Club. Yeah, like I don't remember, I don't remember my mom ever being. like no go play like you wanted to play oh yeah you know but also i remember because my parents were kind of strict with tv like that was what they would take away yeah when i'd like you live now as an adult
Starting point is 00:37:49 with no tv in your bedroom i didn't know you were allowed to so they did they must have done something right i literally didn't know you were allowed to but i remember i'd like go to my on Fridays in what was this like elementary school where you'd go to run a movie and you're like tonight we're watching yeah and it was And it was like, or I'd go to my, like, pick up my friend in the morning and we'd watch TV together, like saved by the bell or like that. Wow. I was never a morning TV. It was like you get in a little fucking, a little person. You get a little snort in the morning of something naughty. Wait, can I say a celebrity couple that isn't. Yeah. Talked about enough. Yeah. Enrique Anglicius and Anna Kornicova. How have they been able to stay out of the press? Yeah. Where are they? So when anyone says, oh, they, they The press just love them. Anna Kornikova, the most beautiful, most talented woman in the world. And Enrique Anglesias, the most beautiful, most talented man in the world, who's so beautifully could be a woman.
Starting point is 00:38:47 They're together. Yeah, well, I think they're married and have kids. Yeah. And they just live, like, a peaceful life. I feel like they would live in Miami. I feel like they would live in Florida, too. Or who knows. Because she could play tennis all year round.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Who knows? One thing I wanted to say when we were talking about country music, because this is so giggly squad coded. Did you know that? What's the theater we played in Nashville? Oh. We played in the Grand Old Opry. Grand Ole Opry.
Starting point is 00:39:16 They threw Dolly Part and a birthday party. And they said, hey, we're going to have it here at the very prestigious. It's the most famous theater in all of Nashville. For all of country music. My show Nashville started at the Grand Ole Arp. Yeah. And it's like very, very big deal. Tolly Parton goes, amazing.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Thank you for having that party. I certainly won't be there, but have the best time ever. And I just feel like that is so, like if I could predict what the giggers are going to be like when they're in their 80s, it's that. It's like, oh my God, thank you so much for the recognition. I'm certainly not going to be there.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Have the best time. Wait, it's so badass that you know you don't have to be there and people would still be excited to go to a party just with your name on it. Like she's like you can celebrate me, but I'm, I'm good. But thank you. I love that. I'm like, I feel like I'm going to start doing that for my birthday. I'm just going to be,
Starting point is 00:40:11 I'm just going to throw parties for my birthday and watch it on Instagram. Well, that was my favorite dinner when I threw a dinner and then I didn't show up because my, I had a scratchy throat. Right. And everyone sent me photos. And I said, please stop sending me photos from the event. Thank you. I know I'm getting older.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Mm-hmm. Because I'm very into lamps. Yeah. and the algorithm knows. Yeah, nothing like a good lamb. And they know I'm, it's like porn. We're like at first you're like, this is cute. And then you're like, I need to see some crazy shit.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Like they know not to show me normal lamps anymore. I need some like chrome fucking mid, mid, mid century modern. I need some fucking weird bases. I need some like abstract. I need some crazy shit. I'm going to be honest. I've,
Starting point is 00:41:02 I've, I've, I've, I've sensed this day coming with you because you love vintage. You love thrifting. You love like, oh, I'm going to like run into this little store. But now we're getting older. You're needle pointing. You're like, you're going to dinner at 5 p.m. with your husband.
Starting point is 00:41:18 It was a matter of time until you said, hey, check out this end table. This will really put you in a coma. Two years ago, I couldn't spell scons. Now I have a pictures board of only sconces. And I have opinions. I didn't even know what a scons was. I didn't know what a scons was. Do I know how to put it together?
Starting point is 00:41:36 No, that was intimidating for me. Sconses will change the whole room. Sconses will change the room. Don't get me started on my crown molding in my apartment because it's a true work of art. You don't know what's amazing about a light. It not only brings so much value to the home and the ambions, but it also is fully a design piece. It's two and one. I'm very, um, I love like the 60s era.
Starting point is 00:42:01 I love 60s fashion. Like anything like Palm Royale, like Kristen Wig, that show. Yes. I love that. I love mini skirts. I love boots. Yes. I love big hair like that.
Starting point is 00:42:13 And I love like the mad men, the decorations. Like I love when a room looks like 70s vibe. I love 70s. Do you remember the rooms where they just had a gossip like pit? Pit. Do you know they're coming back? Okay. Because they actually said our generation.
Starting point is 00:42:31 brought back interior designers that like it had like fallen off a little was like really only for the rich at one point. Yeah. Our generation has made it like, no, we really care about our homes. But I do have to say I think there is somewhere in the marketplace because as someone who's like dabbled and looking at interior design, it's fucking hard expensive. And then also it's like styling where it's like super expensive plus like obviously you have your own taste.
Starting point is 00:43:01 So like it's so expensive to possibly not like it. And I know so many people who are like adults who've had like bad experiences with it. Yeah. But I want those. I feel like there's an opportunity for like a girl who's like doing well in her 30s financially to be able to hire an interior designer that isn't like for like millionaires. Yeah. Well, because it's such an art.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Yeah. It really is. I just honestly like I would love just someone's taste because I know what I like but I don't know how to put it together. Yeah. Like I'm like, yes, that's perfect. But if someone's like start from scratch, I like, I'm like, I like, I like lamps. Yeah. But wait, once you start seeing lamps, you can't unsee it.
Starting point is 00:43:44 And one bad lamp can ruin a room. This is like how you talk about someone's like shoe. That's how I speak about lamps. A shoe really can ruin a whole entire outfit. You go, as we can see her. as we've learned today. Actually, these are my Lulu Lemon shoes. No, I like those sneakers.
Starting point is 00:44:05 They're very comfortable. I was just going to say something, shoot, what were we talking about before your lamps? Before we got on that riveting conversation. This is being in the year 30s with your friend. Like, oh my God, forgot to tell you. Saw a lamp the other day. Am I crazy for liking this lamp or do you like this lamp too?
Starting point is 00:44:25 Like 10 years ago would be like, what is my career now? What is my job? I did learn a new word. The gencies are saying. Oh, God. Chopperganger. Spell it?
Starting point is 00:44:37 No. Perfect. So choppleganger is like, chop? So it's a thing which. H-O-P? I would, C-H-O-P. I'd love to use the smart bill. It's like she's chopped.
Starting point is 00:44:49 I think it might mean ugly or bad. Okay. Like he's chopped. They're chopped. They're chopped. Yeah. So choppelganger basically is. like a doppelganger if it's like the ugly version so like you know you'll see like a guy and you're
Starting point is 00:45:04 like oh he's the walmart version of glen powell or like he looks like pedro pascal if he was microwaved now you just say like he's a chopel ganger of jenzy needs to hit the box i mean i just can't chopper ganger i guess but you know it is it's too much of uh because they don't they don't come up with words for i think day to day they come up with it for instagram captions Like Slay is like fun on Instagram caption But saying slay all day Slay all the time Yeah
Starting point is 00:45:37 Like it doesn't If I want to take myself seriously I can't say Slay in a normal conversation Of someone that's not I have to read the room Like I can't go up to my dorm man and be like Slay You know I could
Starting point is 00:45:51 But I would like to be taken seriously sometimes Fashion is funny though Where like they love a word that means, like, you know how everyone was saying major, like, in 2019? Yeah, that was major. The Rachel Zoe effect had a really big impact on us. Actually, Tinks made a TikTok the other day talking about, like, trends in general and how, like, the 2016s and us, trends would last so much longer.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Yes. She was saying how, like, you'd wait for your favorite influencer to post, and then you would look up, like, the bathing suit they were wearing. And it was such a different time. Yeah, I feel like we need to get back to that. Like the trends can't change so quickly. Where were you in 2016? Not a good place.
Starting point is 00:46:42 2016, I lived here for like a full year, lived in New York City for a full year. I was having the best time of my life. I was just going out and like, you want to know what it was at that time. your job truly was just a job. Yeah. Like you went Monday through Friday.
Starting point is 00:47:02 Yep. Once the clock hit 6 p.m. and you were out of there, you were fully in your personal life. Like now our jobs are so intertwined with our personal life that I feel like we get like a snippet of being able to like go out on a Saturday night like once a month. Yeah. But then. And you still feel like should I be posting or people posting. All I cared about at work all week. Once it hit Monday, I was like,
Starting point is 00:47:30 and what am I wearing Thursday night for drinks? Let me go on Pinterest now. That's amazing. Somebody said that Pinterest was possibly going away. And to that, I say, a lot more murder per capita with women. I mean, I don't know. That's the only thing that calms me down. If women don't have Pinterest.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Do you know how many times I've written up those angry text messages in my notes and said, you know what? I'm just going to go on Pinterest because it's going to be better. 90% of serial killers are men because women can post quotes on Pinterest. We can regulate. We can regulate our emotions. We have enough deduction and reasoning to be like, that's crazy. Let me step away.
Starting point is 00:48:22 In 2016, I was working for a T-shirt company. And there were like four people working. working like it was like a startup and I really was like it's when you were like cold calling this was after cold calling sales because I was like I can't do the cold calling anymore I want to do something creative so I was like doing marketing I guess but my job was basically customer service people would be like where's my t-shirt and I'd be like have you looked next door and they're like no bitch and I'm like okay I'll send you another one like that's what I did but I would pitch the the founder who's sitting next to me like all these like marketing ideas and he basically like wouldn't
Starting point is 00:48:56 listen to them. And then one day I was like, I've been here for a year. Like, can I get a raise of some fine? And he was like, no. And then I was like, okay, I think I'm going to quit because like, this isn't going anywhere. Yeah. And he looks at me and he was like, you know, because I was under 26 and he's like, if you had threatened to like make me pay health insurance, I would have given you more money. He said something so like diabolical where like I just felt like such a non-heaval. human, like just such an entity. Yeah. And then I started, I started an Instagram called Forks and Fitness.
Starting point is 00:49:37 Because it is F and FF, you know. Where is this Instagram? I think it might have, it might still exist. Yeah. But it also might have, I've definitely been logged out of it. But like, occasionally I'll get an email like a fake company being like, can we promote with Forks and Fitness? I had like 200 followers.
Starting point is 00:49:52 But I was doing sports modeling. So it would be like me posting. playing sports because I wanted to show that women could be strong. Yeah. And then I showed like smoothie and then I did motivational quotes. No, my shay-low. My shahler. No. That is so sweet. Are you going to say sad? No, I'm going to cry. Because I wanted to show women being healthy and powerful because that's all I knew. And I was like, see, you could be strong. And I was like, pitch. I was like, we need more women with muscle. We were doing mental health moments of the day.
Starting point is 00:50:30 Yeah. But it was funny because that's so like loss sounding. Yeah. But like literally in a year I was telling people I want to do video. I want to get into sports broadcasting. And then next to you know I got my job at Betches doing like video. Yep. But um.
Starting point is 00:50:47 No, 2016 was like such a crazy town. See, 2017 was when I had my like my like relationship. that like gave me panic attacks. Yeah. So 2016 was like my last year of like... Fun. Of being a baby. You don't.
Starting point is 00:51:04 Before and then I'm just like, a man can ruin your mental health if you picked the wrong one. You really don't. Yeah. Where at 2016 I was like, does anyone want to experience life with me? And then 2018 we met.
Starting point is 00:51:16 And the world's never been the same. World's never been the same. Wait. Yeah. I meant to say this in the beginning of the pod. Classic. Just remembered. Let's start over.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Let's start over. Let's redo it. We were talking about the Super Bowl. I'm going to be in a Super Bowl commercial, which you all already know, but I want to tell the gigglers. And it was so, well, first when I got the call, I was like, guys, this is insane. What is the brand? Like, what is it for? And it's for kinder, Bueno, like, chocolate. And it's so serendipitous because when you go home to my parents' house, if you're staying at our home, if you're staying in, like, one of the guest rooms on your nightside bed table. there will always be snacks. Yes, and I've seen it. One of three snacks. There's either Nutella Little Bites or cookies. Ferreiro Rochets or Kinderbue. Now, the funny part of this is my mom doesn't know that they're all owned by the same company.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Well, she has taste. She purely just has taste. They're also an Italian company, so Loki, I think they were like, who can we tap in America? that like gives us the energy. So anyway, so I filmed a commercial for the Super Bowl. I'm so excited.
Starting point is 00:52:32 I actually haven't fully seen it yet. But like I think the announcement was coming out today. I. In one line. Wait, how long? Like, what is the, are you allowed to say any of the premise? I don't know what I'm allowed to say yet. But it's, I want to say it's like a 30 second.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Yeah. I'm like a very short part. heart, but like, it was still so fun. Who did you do it with? That I don't think I can say. Oh, okay, that's exciting. Yeah, so I will say, like, what? It'll just be, it'll be fun.
Starting point is 00:53:06 That's the thing. So everyone, have a Kinderbrino. Have a Kinderbino. And I will say, after I got the call and my agent was like, you're going to film this commercial, I was so excited. And then I thought, hmm, what's an event that all my ex-boyfriends will be seated for they'll be watching. Well, how can I harness all that energy?
Starting point is 00:53:32 Oh, a Super Bowl commercial. I do have to say, I think the next step for me and you is really infiltrating sports. It's been a sports podcast for a while. For a last couple of years. I also just want to throw something out there. I do believe I'm going to be involved with something with March Madness, which I know that men love. So let's just say, people are going to be pissed.
Starting point is 00:53:53 People are going to be real, real mad. And by people, I mean the men. Yeah. I mean about six or seven men that have crossed through my path. I have a quick list of seven men that I can't fucking wait for them to see me on that screen. You know it's going to be an awkward conversation for someone that night. I'd actually like to throw them all in a group chat together and say, have at it. How have your lives all significantly gone down?
Starting point is 00:54:19 Well, it is the classic Lady Gaga quote where it's like, wherever you go, you will see me. There have been some safe spaces for men like the Super Bowl. Right. But look, those spaces are weaning. But hey, I wasn't getting the full gusto I needed of the knife in. Yeah, and I needed to really twist it this year. Last year, I was just knifing. This year, I'm really cranking it.
Starting point is 00:54:39 So I'm excited. Anyway, and that's where we'll end. That was a good mental health moment. So anyone uses us as motivation to piss someone off. We love you so much. Have an amazing week. Oh, also I'm going to Idaho today. Like I have to leave this pod to go on my flight. Idaho. Oh my God, I have a run. Idaho, four places in Colorado.
Starting point is 00:54:59 L.A., San Francisco, Seattle. I got to run. We're back. We're back to work. Yeah. Love you guys. Bye.

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