Giggly Squad - Giggling about intuition, drag queens, and getting fired

Episode Date: March 3, 2026

Hannah and Paige spill the behind the scenes of hosting the SAG red carpet and filming a Hulu special.subscribe to our newsletter! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Sup gigglers. Gary, fix the Wi-Fi. Manifest that shit. We can't be managed. Got away from me? My. Yeah. No, and that's actually exactly what I was thinking.

You took the words right out of my mouth, Hannah. You guys, we have nothing left. I am nothing. This is also when you make us record. No one's made us record, actually. We made ourselves. No. you made us record this morning

I okay it's just like one of those days I'm going to start crying it's just like no not like seriously but like I could I could wait I am going to get my period in about four days if any giggleers are on the same cycle let me know

that's funny because I just ended mine I have a lot to say I can't even compose my thoughts can I just say something sure did you wear a butt pad the academy needs to know No, this is why you need your girlfriends because I'm not kidding. Like the hours leading up to recording this pod and I'm talking about like last night and this morning there were so many things that I could have burnt down the entire city for. And it's really like, oh, I actually just needed to like talk to my best friend.

Like oh my God. Well, okay, this is what's fucked up. You guys, because we care about the pod too much, we haven't had a full talk about what went down this weekend. Like we've been texting on stop, but like I didn't want to spill anything. I'm going to cry because I haven't been able to vent about anything. You're so pent up right now. I'm so pent up and it's like I've talked to my mom. I've talked to a man in my life.

Like no, what I really needed was I needed to talk to my best friend because she's actually the only one that gets me. I apologize to you because, well, of course, I shot my special on Saturday and then Paige was running Netflix on Sunday. So we're both, you know, on edge. You know, when I get in those moods where I'm like, I'm obsessed with myself, I love myself, I'm in one of those moods where I'm like so annoyed by myself. I'm like, enough with you. Oh, because you've like been doing so much? I'm just like enough with your nonsense to my own self.

Here's a funny story, though. So Saturday night, Hannah records her special. And so like I text her earlier. We're on two different time zone. text her like earlier in that day like you're gonna crush it like your outfit's so good so it's like half the battle like you're fine now I leave I go I get a massage awesome I'm not thinking about anything except me and my fucking massage girl okay she got in there Sunday morning I wake up I'm like getting ready I'm doing my thing I get a text from Hannah you're gonna crush it tonight your outfit so good

like don't worry about it like you're good I get out of doing the red carpet. I have a text from Hannah saying I could only watch the beginning of it because I had to go get a massage and I felt so bad that I'm getting a massage while you're like probably wanting to kill yourself. I text Hannah back and I go, that's so funny because I got a massage when you were doing your thing where you probably wanted to kill yourself and I thought nothing of it. I literally like was nervous to tell you that I wasn't able to watch the majority of it because I was getting a massage which is so fucking selfish of me and you literally go what do you think I was doing

while you were working babe and this is why we're friends I was all I had to perform and you'd be really proud of me my stylist was like gave me these shoes that are like five inch heels and she's like these are gorgeous so I put them on and I'm a diva in the opposite way where I'm always like

this isn't going to be comfortable like I have to I have moves where I'm grinding I'm jumping. I'm doing splits on the dick. Mind you I were six and a half inch platforms. I said, do we have sixers? I'd really love to be tall.

You're the exact opposite. Can we go higher? Our favorite photographer, Lucio, came. Oh my God, we tortured this man. No, we tortured Lucio. No, I feel so bad for Lucio. So Lucio was loving his life in Milan.

This is so fancy of Lucio. In Milan, having pasta, whatever people do in Milan, gets a call from Page's team. Can you fly? to L.A., which is like 72 hours. I'm not a mathematician, but it's long. Shoots you. Next day, flies to Toronto,

shoots my special. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Oh, yeah, you're telling you're telling it right. You go, and another thing, never mind. And you know what? Yes. Flies to L.A. Flies to L.

Yes. So, yeah, then flies to me, and then he looks to me. And I go, we were like so in it. And then I look at him and I go, are you doing SAG? I mean, sorry, actor awards. And he was like, yeah. And I'm like, oh my God. And he's like, I can't, I just, I have to get on red eye.

So anyway, we're flying this Italian boy back and forth, back and forth. At the end of my special, he just starts laughing. And I'm like, what are you laughing about besides, I mean, this isn't the comedy part. Why are you laughing? We're just sitting here. And he's like, you and Paige are so different. He's like, do you realize I had to corner you and beg you to take photos of you? You hired me to take photos of you.

You're running away from me. I can't get you down. We take one photo. You get distracted. You're talking to someone where Paige, I'll be like, hey, Paige, we took 700 photos. And you're like, what's a little more? They're like, Paige, you have a gig to do? And she's like, but did we get it?

And he's like, we got it 400 times. And she's like, I don't think so. My new thing is set up a photo shoot for me. You were bringing a brief screen around. I'm bringing. You go, now we're in Paris. Now we're in Tokyo. Remember when Aubrey O'Day was posting all those Instagrams?

She made it look like she was at the beach. That's me and Lucho. I'm like, let's envision. This is a Tiffany campaign. What do we do it? Like we get into. When I tell you, Lucho was like, can we shoot now? And I'm like, no, I'm getting ready.

And then we're like, about to go on. And I'm like, I have to go on. And then I'm like, okay, I have to rest for my next show. Like, I was like, Lucho, I don't have time. And he's like, you hired me. No, the morning of actor awards, my assistant had to get like this. Get a literal trapeze. I don't even know.

She had to get like all these things for him to set up his photo shoot thing because he was on a flight from Canada. I'm obsessed. But yeah, so you were. Anyway. So I put on the five inch heels and I told my stylist, I cannot perform my Hulu. special in these like I'm going to look awkward I have to feel like myself yeah but you're gonna I have so much as I and you have so much to say anyway just they'll say it so we get there and we're putting on the outfit and I'm like you know what I had like your voice in

my head and I was like wear the fucking high heels Hannah it looks so much better just do it but wearing five inch heels for three shows like your lower back gave out a lot so I was flying back on Sunday and I found this guy who would come to my apartment. It was like sketchy. Wait, so did you wear them? Yeah, babe. I wore them. I wore.

I've been to cry. No, I know. And she brought, she just brought them like just in case and I was like, the comedy guys were, we're doing. I'm so proud of you. Thank you. It's going to make all the different. No, it will.

And I would have never done it if it wasn't for you. And my Nana. So thank you to you and my Nana. But the guy was like, great. I'm free tonight because I'm like, I'm actually like having a spasm. I've been flying too much. And he was like, great, 7 p.m. I said perfect. Going through my day.

And then I turn on Netflix and it says 7 p.m. start. And I'm like, okay, page will start at 6. I'm like, nope. Page is starting at 7. And I'm like, she's going to kill me. She's going to kill me. Why the hell would I care? Well, but then I'm also getting a massage thinking my poor baby is trying to remember facts.

She's trying to- It's so hard to remember that. She's trying to pretend she wants to listen. She's having to stand in her little dress with her butt pad. Like, and I just felt we're normally do stuff together, so it just felt uneven. But knowing that you- It felt uneven. And also even with my co-host, I didn't realize that I wasn't standing with him. like I was standing on my own.

First, I just want to report I didn't wear the butt pad. I put it on. False advertising. I didn't even put it on with my dress because when I put it on, I actually think you would look phenomenal in it because you already have a good butt. It was almost like it almost made my hips look. It didn't look good is what I'll say. Like it didn't look good on.

If I did it, I feel like I would look really camp like I would look. Kim Kay. Yeah, you would be like giving like Julia Fox like. You should have worn it and just not said anything. It looked insane. I didn't even try it on with my dress because it looked so nuts. Yeah. Yeah.

So anyway, I forget everything I was going to sign. We have nothing to say. We had really intense weekends. I just want to say I. I was nervous, but I wasn't as nervous as I thought I was. going to be like I took a I obviously took a beta blocker but in my head I was like oh my going to have to take another one because yes I'm live for an hour but I was standing there for two hours prior like there are because the red carpet is so many hours long yeah it would be impossible to go

live for three hours because it's there's such a lull like you don't know in time what people are showing up and you also don't want to OD on beta blockers right I don't want to like pass out but I wasn't of my typical anxiety things that happened to me happened so I'm like so I was so proud of myself for that I was like wow it took me a full fucking year to reset my nervous system from just like absolute bullshit over the past few years so I was very happy with that I like at that point I was like I don't even care how I do because just the fact that I'm not getting getting nervous and feeling like I'm going to faint is a win in itself. Yeah. Yes. It's huge. So much was just like happening.

Also Daphne launched today like our spring collection launched today. And it is so it's just so hard to run a business. You have so much going on. No. And I think people like I don't like I don't have I never talk about the running of Daphne on Giggly Squad because it truly is like running a business. Did you see that article that Gen Z is getting fired at an alarming rate? No, I didn't see that.

Some article came out. So then obviously, like, everyone in their mom is doing a video on TikTok that Gen Z is getting fired at, like, an insane rate. Like, they just can't hold a job because people are just firing them left, right and center. Someone who's always down on Gen Z, I'm actually going to stick up for them for a second. I don't think it's necessarily Gen Z. I think it's being that age. Anyone that age, like in your early and mid-20s, like it's very easy to mess up at your first job, second job.

You're like, as someone who was fired in her early 20s. Okay, hold on. Yeah. But then I kept seeing comments, and it was millennials basically being like, Gen Z doesn't take any initiative. and the comments were Gen Z being like initiative cost extra. Like you're not paying me. And I think that Gen Z might not understand the term initiative.

And for me, it's common sense. And either do we. I think that Gen Z just lacks certain social cues because of like COVID and certain things. And then I get TikToks of like teachers that teach like 14 year olds. and they're like, hey, guys, they don't know how to read. So we're asking them to do these things. And it's like they can't do it because they can't read it. Like, I guess their reading comprehension is really bad.

Okay, I do have to say, I think Gen Z's also, they are amazing with like, understanding their worth and like in theory, setting boundaries, having a good work life balance. Yes, which in theory is amazing. Awesome. But then you have to realize you will sometimes get fired when you have too many boundaries in the workplace. And that's okay. That job isn't for you.

And as someone who runs a business. And as someone who's been fired. As someone who's fired people before. I think. Boyfriends. Fired multiple. Fired so many boyfriends. Can we fire boyfriends?

Like, fuck breaking up. Be like, you're on. You're fired. No, you're fired. I've seen your work. I've seen your work. It doesn't bring value. That is what it should be because it's like, hey, I gave you warning after warning. Even on probation. We did a full year review. I said what you improved in and what you didn't. And now you're actually hurting the company. Yeah. I also saw a thing that it was like stay until you hate them because you'll never go back. And I'm like, wait. I have unintentionally done that for 15 years. Yeah, I don't agree with that. But if you have to, do it that way that's fine um anyway what was i saying okay one of the things that i run into as a business owner and i'm like obviously a lot of gigglers can relate to this and i don't think it's just gen z i find myself if you hire someone to do a job i don't feel like i need to check in on you

that you're doing that job because i hired you to do that job well initiative is so important and it comes from caring. Now this is the thing. I was definitely taking advantage of and abused in my early 20s at multiple startups. However, I knew what I signed up for. And this is my advice to people in their 20s. You're going to change jobs every two years. That's how you actually get salary increases. Because if you stay at the same job, you're not going to get a lot. Unless if you're like so obsessed with a job. So when you're in it, think about the book you're going to write. I love saying I was working, you know, for $20 an hour and I was working weekends and I was learning so much. And I was hanging out with, you know, this executive who was telling me all their strategies.

It's the money, yeah, it seems low, but you're learning stuff. And yeah, we were part of that like unlimited vacation days time where they literally didn't give us days off. And if we asked for it, they like judged us. I never asked for a day off. No, that was like illegal. And they were like, but we have a beer tap in the office. And I'm like, that gives me diarrhea. But anyway, I do have to say, too, every single job I've been fired from, and this is a flex.

The founder, the person who fired me has since reached out. And I have to say, I got an amazing text from someone who fired me early on in my career. I have to bring it up for you that could make me cry. This, ooh, this can make me cry. I was in my very early- We're so emotional today. We're so emotional. This is my very early 20s.

I was working under someone. He was amazing entrepreneur. And he kind of ended up just wanting me to do customer service, but I was trying so hard to like do everything for him and pitch him stuff. And he basically was like, stop. And then when I asked for a raise, he was like, leave me alone. Yeah. So I like left.

I was like, I have to leave. So he texted me. I think back to those years and realize I had no clue at the time how to help you be you. Keep having fun. And it's this beautiful, like, it wasn't about I was a bad worker or. Is it raining where you are? No, why? Oh, it's raining.

We're both in New York though. Yeah. That's why I asked. Anyway, keep going with your beautiful stories. You go, sorry, there's a 30% chance of rain. I'm touching my boop. Continue. But anyway, if you are a Gen Z getting fired right now, don't take it personally.

But I would get fired for doing too much. Like, they would be like, you're not CEO. Sit down and answer emails where I was like, we got to change the strategy. Yeah, I don't think they're getting fired because of that. I think they're getting fired for literally the exact opposite. But I would argue Gen Z's, yes, you're getting taken advantage of, but you kind of, in your first years, you want to learn as much as possible so that when eventually you do get the big jobs, you feel so qualified. This one girl gave an example where she was like, taking initiative is more like you're following up with someone rather than your boss asking you, hey, can you follow up with that person?

I also have like crippling anxiety and the idea of like my boss tell me to do something and it doesn't get done will keep me up for months. So like I've had people like I've asked like okay where do you see yourself in five years and like I've had employees be like I don't think about it and I'm like okay and that's totally fine but if you're not thinking about it then I'm certainly not thinking about it because I'm thinking about it for myself. Yeah I also there is a interesting perspective I was meeting with this girl and I don't think she knew that I was. actually trying to see if she could be good like for our company yeah and I was just subtly asking her questions like what's your dream job like yeah and I literally look at her and I'm like if you you could get everything you wanted in a job yeah what would it be and she looked at me and she was like to not work and at that moment I said that's incredible and I wish that I could be fulfilled outside of work and that's my own mental illness. Okay, same. We're not talking down on that. That sounds, and there are people

who live to work and work to live. Yeah. What did you say to me when you like started Daphne? You said, I'm feeling really creatively fulfilled, which I was missing in my life. And that's where I felt my most happiness. Like, for example, even this special, I felt the same way this weekend too, where I was like last special you had, I had. I had. I felt the weight of the world. Everyone was, like, there were all these articles about, like, Hannah left reality TV to, like, be a shitty comic. And, like, it was all, like, repeating in my head.

And I'm like, I could fail. I could fail. And when you had your panic attack, back in Denver, not to bring it up again, I know it's triggering, I told you, I said, you better get on stage tomorrow. Because if you don't, you'll never go on again.

And I've dealt with a lot of performance. Performing anxiety, performance anxiety in my past. So people are like, why would you become a stand-up comedian? But I realize the only way to conquer your fears is to do it. And then your brain learns, like, oh, this isn't something to be scared about. But the only way for your brain to know it is to do it. Right. So what was crazy is this Hulu special, I was like, oh, no, like three weeks beforehand,

am I going to start, like, getting in my head again? and like fighting all these demons and it like never happened and then i went on stage and i'm like you're so fucking prepared you've you're having fun you've done this before and it just like we both have had so much growth over the last two years it's fucking crazy and for anyone who's scared of something right now i did my homework for you and this is so annoying and i hate to be so millennial about it force yourself to do it like even it's it's a little thing like you're scared of going on dates set up a date right now because that's the only way to change your brain neuroplasticity ilene goo talked about it iileen who i lean goo we talked about her last time yeah yeah yeah

neuroplasticity sorry the word slip my mind wait so okay is there any behind the scenes stuff from the actor awards you getting ready or like celebrity encounters that we should know about Let me just say, I will get into it, but let me just say one more thing on why women are so incredible. I'm getting ready for the Netflix thing and something happened, not even like nothing, but like it was nothing that happened. But I couldn't say in the moment, like, I look at Taylor Fitzgerald, my makeup artist. I'm not kidding, Hannah. I shot my eye up for half a second. half a second we didn't even fully make eye contact and I had a full conversation with her in the moment

to the point that after when it was over she text we were texting each other and I was like hey can we talk about something she goes I already know what you're going to talk about because I know that during taping no this was like right before I went out got it like literally moments before I was starting I was like mid interview you were like no I gave her a look and it was like and it's just like the power of women and I know we get on the pot and I know a lot of people like to be like put us in a box like oh they just like hate men like that's their whole personality they hate men and not at all we love men as someone who was the most boy crazy person in like high school in college I fucking love men I love dating men I love

having sex with them like I have such great men in my faith I know amazing men like I've had so many amazing men inside me no Rachel Zoe actually just did a podcast and she was talking about how like she loves great men but she hates the shitty ones and I'm like that's exactly how I feel where was I going with you well you were saying women were amazing women are amazing so like our whole personality isn't just hating men but the way that we I connect with another one woman is just on another level. And it's not like to, it's not that it's competing with how I connect with men. It's just different.

Like, okay, and you guys should connect with each other also. Like, is that why your ex-boyfriends are jealous of me? Probably. I think that I trigger men because they can tell when I don't respect them. Yeah. And I don't do it like, I do it very subtly. I think it's more like I might not laugh as loud as they want me to or or they don't just don't like that I'm taking up space in a room that they're used to taking up space in.

No, men can meet for how dumb they are. They can clock when someone's clocking them. Like I had a boyfriend meet my best friend from high school for the first time. And I hadn't see and we lived at that point, me and my girlfriend had lived on like different coasts. So it wasn't like we were seeing each other all the time and we happened to both be in California. And I just started dating this guy and I was like, oh my God, you have to meet him. Let's like, go out for drinks. She was with him. I'm not kidding.

Less than 15 minutes, she squeezed my hand and goes, what are you doing? And I had a moment where I was just like, oh, my God. But he would not bring her up ever again. If there was a time where like I could possibly see her or hang out with her, he wanted nothing to do with it. And not that she was ever rude to him. Like she would never do that. Like he didn't know that she didn't like him.

But men can clock when there's other women in the room that aren't falling four-year bullshit. Yes. Also, when I meet my friend's boyfriend or something, I'm not meeting him as another woman. No. I'm genderless. I'm a soul. Genderless.

I'm a soul in the room meeting another soul. And I'm not, I'm not being girly. I'm just like... Right, because it's not like this is a potential employer, a potential date. I'm not flirting with you. Yeah, that you're a nothing to me. I am a raw soul, meeting you as a soul. And seeing...

Like, that is how I come into the space. And you're not going to pull a fast one on me. And I'm not going to be mean to you either. I think maybe I scared them because they can tell that I'm observing and I rarely observe. Yeah. I'm not observant. I'm normally a chatty little Kathy. No, and that is why men will immediately, like their immediate defenses, will you listen to your friends or like you're acting like your friend?

It's like, thank God. Thank God. Someone's looking out for me because you're certainly not. But also, if I love us being like, and this is how you stand up for your friend, what you should do. When I meet you with a new man, I look at you first. Yeah. Because I know who you are in your soul. And if you're if you are putting on a different energy, it's not your fault.

It's his fault. Yeah. So I go, what is he reflecting onto you that's making you feel like you have to overcompensate? You have to make yourself smaller. You can't laugh as loud. That's when I say, no, no, no. No, I would like hide. I'd be giving me recluse.

You were wearing outfits I didn't recognize. Pastels. You were wearing florals. someone had to check on you you were in florals we were all scared at home we're all nervous wait can i tell you some people i interviewed that i actually absolutely fucking love yes give me the team number one alley larder oh my god what an icon what an icon do you want to know something so fucking iconic i see her walking down the carpet she's stunning she's radiant she's gorgeous gorgeous she's so

fucking nice. It would like make you sick. She was so kind and warm. Eye contact. There's like a second. There's like a second before we start that like we say hi to each other. She was so nice to me. Then I see her with a man and in my head.

I'm like, I actually have no idea if she's married or not. I don't even know who. But I see the guy and I'm like I kind of recognize him. Like I feel like maybe he has been in a couple movies. But it is not like he's like a name that you would like immediately think of. Good looking. Very good looking.

Gorgeous couple. The way he watched her do the carpet, literally I could have brought a tear to my eye. Because some of these men are performative when the camera's on trying to be supportive. Well, that's what it is. There was no camera on him. I can't when the camera's on being like, look how much I love her. When they're rude on camera, I'm like, imagine how they act without the camera. Imagine.

And imagine how tired we are. We are. So that was one thing I loved her I loved Michelle Randolph who is also from Landman She was so sweet So sweet

I felt so bad for her Because there was a moment Where I had completely forgotten About the Colton of it all When I first saw Like when I saw her And when she was coming up To do an interview

Right before we started She was like Hey you're not gonna ask any personal questions right I don't even know if that's exactly how she worded it. It was almost like, hey, you're not going to ask any. And I looked at her and I was like, hey, no, no, no. I would never. And then as I'm doing the interview, I'm like, oh my God, I bet she thought I was going to say something about that disgusting loser who stalked the fuck out of her sister. It made me again pissed off because I'm like, here is this beautiful, gorgeous

young girl who is here celebrating the phenomenal job she did. as an actress in her show that's getting nominated and she's thinking about your loser ass and if some random question's going to come up about your psychotic did you see that whole vanity fair article vanity fair miss me with that did you see colton did a whole article with vanity fair about how and they were like the interviewer was like obviously we have to ask about this like what's going on with you and michel or not what's going on but like no the one that's on the show's name is oh michel yeah Michelle, the one that he stalked is Cassie. Yeah.

So the interviewer asks him like, and his answer is, oh, well, if they wanted to ask me any questions, I'd be happy to answer them. And I had a Xanax addiction at the time. Get this man off my internet now. Why are you pushing this so much? Also, another thing, since we're talking about traders and I didn't watch this season because I actually couldn't stomach it. Oh, yeah. But as someone who watched Rob's season on Love Island, I despised him on Love Island. I thought that he was so manipulative and everyone was falling for it.

I kind of can't stomach the praise he's getting. Okay. As someone who watched every second of the season. Of Traders. But not Love Island. Not Love Island. I just watched Traders. This finale, fast forward.

if you don't want to hear about it. I couldn't fall asleep that night. You would have actually broken a wall. You would have a la man punched a wall. So, Mora, Mora and Rob, they make it like their besties because they're both on Love Island. We find out later they met once before the show. When Tara and Johnny are legitimately best friends.

They met once before the show. They said, like, no, Rob's a traitor. No one would listen to them. So there was a moment. moment. If there's anyone I'm listening to, it's a girl in her gay bestie. You would have searched. You would have died.

There's a moment. Okay, there's a moment. Rob is a traitor. Eric is a traitor. And Eric, by the way, sweetest man in the world, worst traitor ever. He's like pissing himself every second he has to be a traitor. I don't even know who that is. Who is Eric?

He's a singer. And Rob, like, picked him, I think, because he's weak. And like, if he fucks up, it doesn't affect Rob. So, and then there's terror. and Johnny and Tara and Johnny are like Eric and Rob are traitors so then there's a fifth person who's who affects everything and that's more cracking the case more than a girl and her guy like I'm sorry and when I tell you they so so Tara pulls Mora side and it's like mora I trust you you trust me I'm telling you Rob and Eric are traitors and she's like I don't tink I don't tink so I don't

think so and then the power of a attractive man in the United States of America to get away with hypothetical murder on this show is so, it's, it's alarming. It's alarming. There was a moment, though, where Mora looks at Tara and she goes, I see it. You're right. So then she goes back to Rob. And this is the thing.

We've all seen this with our girlfriends before. Yeah. where they know the guy sucks. They know he's probably cheating on them or they know that he's not right for them. But they don't want to believe it because then they'd have to admit that they've been duped. Duped the entire time. So that was like so human of Mora. But you're watching it and there was this moment where they're going around.

If Mora had voted for Eric or Rob, they could have had this like feminist moment of Tara and Mora being the winners of the traders and the girls winning and Mora turns and votes Tara and then this was the hardest part so Tara gets voted off after Tara's like this man is the traitor as she's walking away Rob goes and he didn't this is what's the thing about Rob he didn't mean it in a mean way but if a man said this to me

I would a sucker punched him he said goodbye sweetheart I would have fucking killed them If you call me sweetheart I would have fucking On a nice Tuesday I would have been mad But so Are you kidding If I'm walking down the streets of New York City

And someone says hey sweetheart I'm turning around and being like Kicking you in the shit Fuck you Mind your own fucking business How fucking dare you disrespect me like that So then this is the problem So Mora

Is convinced Eric's the traitor She's like So she half believed Tara. She's like, Eric's a traitor. Could not be Rob. Could not be Rob. So then when it's Rob and her look at each other and he's like, early on, he's like, we're going to win this thing. We're going to win this thing. Now, I could see you being like, oh, me and my faithful friend are excited we're going to win this thing. He's too sure they're going to win it. Like that's traitor behavior

to be like, we're going to get out this person, this person, then we're going to win it. And she's smiling and hugging. They're holding hands. There's an intimacy to them. I'm just saying this allegedly, I think either they fucked or they just had this like really intense emotional thing going. Look, if I had a nickel every time like a good looking man like truly deceived me, I wouldn't have to do this podcast anymore. No, like. And there's moments we've all been there where we know he sucks.

But you're like, this attention feels really nice right now, even though it's like, it's deviant attention. It's sinister attention. There's almost here's the other thing for and I don't I'm actually probably just speaking for myself because I'm fucking crazy. We're women so like you're not crazy. Thank you. We're women so like we have our shit together. We have our schedule. We know what we're doing. We know what our meal, what our meals are. We know how we're going to take care of our bodies. We know how we're how we're how we're going to spend our Saturday afternoon. We've thought it through. We've thought it through, honey. We've got our ducks in a row. We've. we've got our and manicured we've got our teas crossed our eyes dotted we've double checked things so sometimes when you throw a wrench in there you're like not an eyelash is out of place let's fuck shit you're like this is interesting like this is life like the unexpected oh he's so he's so crazy so mora said if i was she said if i was dignitized you would have known and i'm like you look exactly

Exactly like me every time I'm talking to a tall man with a good jaw. Yeah. And Rob is, he's also, to win traders, people have to trust you and you can't be too loud. I was thinking, like, I would get voted off immediately because they hate a loud woman. They hate a loud woman. And we're not loud, by the way. They're suspicious. We're the same as a man, but we'd be considered loud women.

Yeah. So anyway, she gets. Isn't that crazy that we're actually considered loud women? I hate when people say loud. When people say confident women, I'm like, a man. We act like a man. When I rarely speak. You've never spoken before.

I don't speak. Set a word in your life. And people are like, she thinks too highly of herself. She's disgusting. I also think because I'm a little rough around the edges, people really hate when I talk. Like, at least you have like societal femininity where when I talk, people are like, Hannah, I have to. Hannah, I have to. You, I have to.

It's more palatable when you say it. Like, I'm going to be so honest. Me and you have said the same things on reality TV. Yes. Mine get taken differently because, no, because I know how to make myself smaller. Because I feel like at a young age, because I modeled at a young age and I would never bring it up, I, because I didn't want people to ever know because I would be scared that they would be mean to me about it. I learned really quickly how to make myself really small in a room.

So I can go back and forth. And that is why you actually did so well on reality TV and I didn't because I've always taken up too much space in a room when I felt like I needed to be heard. Yeah. Where the men hated that. Yeah. And everyone was like, you know. No, not you. How dare you?

Sit the fuck down. not you, where you were better at subtle cunning jabs. I'm better at mental mind games. And let me just say, not a lie has ever been said by me. Never, not one. I've never lied. No, you haven't. I don't even know how.

Never. Which is why I'd be a horrible traitor. But anyway, Samora gets out Rob. I mean, sorry, gets out Eric. And Rob gets out Eric. So it's just her and Rob. And you could see in her head, she is, she's, blushing.

Like she's like, we did it. And then you have to say if you're a traitor or not. She goes so far as to joke with him and go, I have to tell you something. I'm a traitor. Just kidding. I'm a faithful. And Rob has to pretend like he's surprised. Yeah.

Which. Trowsetting. And then he's basically like, I'm a traitor. The light in her eyes die. Yeah. That was the most incredible. incredible scene. I've seen a long time.

But I do have to say, it's a game. And Rob played it. He didn't, your job is to deceive. So I can't, I'm not mad at Rob and I'm not mad at Mora. I'm upset that this is the world we live in,

that a white man is so much easily trusted. Why has every drag queen voted out first? save these queens the rate in which women will trust a man because he's slightly good looking and trust his word over tens of hundreds of like it's kind of crazy and i feel like you can see it very clearly on reality tv like that is why sometimes reality tv really gets like studied in certain college classes yeah because watching how many people you could have four women line up and be like he did this, this, and this to me. And the other women be like, yeah, and he also did this, this, this, and this to me. And they'd be like, but you provoked him.

Like you were asking for it. The misogyny of reality TV. If you list all the horrible things that the men have done and hot take, the only reason Tom Sandoval got his ass handed to him as hard as he did was because people wanted to hate on Rachel too. If it was with a random girl, he would have never gotten that kind of traction. Yeah. Could you imagine if a woman did what Tom Sandoval did? But like if the roles were reversed, it would be a completely different outcome. Like Tom Sandoval's on a show right now.

He's on like House of Villains or something. If a woman did that, Dawn. If you're hating too much on women, you're actually hurting the movement. Stop for a second. and be like, is this what I'm fighting for? Or is there bigger societal things than me tearing apart women? And not everything is all of our fault. Like I get hated.

It's kind of funny because I can see both sides of like where I get hate and it like never makes any sense. But it is interesting to see because I'm like, so this is it will just, it's just automatically a woman's fault. Like I'll get hated for staying with someone for too long. But then I'll also get hated if I broke up. with them. It's like, okay, well, I don't trust her because she dated him. But it's like, but I broke up with him. It's like, well, I still don't trust you even though. It's like, okay, but so I couldn't have

been able to win either. If I stayed with him, you would have been mad. And now that I'm broken up with him, you're still mad. At the end of the day, it's always going to be a woman's fault because it's just easier to blame us. We could take it more. The men can't take it. Do you know what's hard as every woman has seen what men are capable of? But then like on reality TV, when you see a man do to a girl, that's you projecting you get mad at the girl. Yeah. Like it's her fault when it's like we've all been in that position. Like that's why I'm not mad at Mora.

I'm like, I've been her. We've all been Mora. Why would I get mad at her? She's showing what happens in the world. Because I don't go into a conversation or a friendship or a relationship and my first thought is not you're going to lie to me. Exactly. I have the opposite thought.

I'm like, well, no, I'm dating you. You're my friend. Why would I think you're lying to me? Then I have to do investigation and be like, wait, you were lying? Looking back, though, I do think it would have been iconic for her to be like, regardless, I don't want to share this with this man, even if I lose, like, fuck this man. But she really, like, loved him. Do you know, Maura also?

She went on Love Island right after she got cheated on. her season was iconic so she told me she told me i watched a video of her ipso facto she did kind of tell you she told me through the phone that she went on pissed and but she's so funny naturally funny that she was just like being crazy in the best way and passionate and and having no nonsense for men but what was so sad is she was like i've been cheated on my whole life and it was was interesting to see like this pattern like the world is almost like giving you the same result until you change and not that it's her fault but you wonder why you keep finding yourself

with men that are capable of such deception yeah like i've i go for a different type of issue man i've never been in the unless if every man's cheated on me and i didn't know but i feel like i would know because i'm a woman yeah um some people go for cheaters some people go for narcissists some people go for both i go for like controlling narcissists see they that doesn't that they know that i'm will immediately and i like to think it's because i like a challenge yes oh god controlling narcissists they love women who are strong and powerful because i yeah i like to see they come for me they come for me and they come for me and they disguise in the beginning and then they trap me and then I'm like now I have to cook up a plan like I don't understand the psyche of it but

I could see a man being like I would love to be with a beautiful woman like mora and then cheat on her for my ego yeah and that's how you turn it and not blame mora yeah it's not her fault she's so pretty and her glam skills are so good it's not her fault that some good looking man literally tricked her I kind of love how mental healthy this episode is because I have one more mental health moment to start the week off. Fuck yeah, Hannah. Thanks. So I actually would tell everyone like, okay, intuition versus anxiety, it's different.

But like we don't really know how to tell. Like we've all been lying. We're like, yeah, I could tell. We can't tell. Until I learned anxiety comes in a question. So when you get a thought that's a question, that's not intuition. So if you get a thought, like, is he cheating on me? That's anxiety.

If you get a thought, he's cheating on you. That's intuition. When you... Sorry, I have to go about my days differently now. Oh my God. I know. And then if you have a past tense thought, that's just depression. Like, you always do this.

You always do that. That's not intuition. That's depression. Or a story you tell of yourself. Like, this is so you. That's not intuition. That's depression. Because we all can make up stories about who we are.

Any story is not intuition. Sorry, not me just like going through my whole life. Intuition is a statement. Like before we went on stage, before you went to perform your Netflix, we both went, I'm ready for this. That's intuition. And that's why we weren't nervous. Oh, girl. What an episode.

Honestly, I didn't need this on a Tuesday morning. I know. I know. We did not need this. No, I needed to speak to you, though. I needed to vent. Moral of this episode truly Sometimes you just need to talk to your friend

Or listen to Giggly Squad Like you just need to get like taken out of Your brain cycle Mm-hmm And then You have to have a different perspective Yes And someone who sees you authentically

And not like the stuff you've been making up Wait can I call myself out for being a massaginistic monster Mm-hmm Okay so my mom flew to Toronto to literally like manage me like came in my hotel room and sure I had enough liquids like talked me off ledges folding my clothes

like literally every second walked in like put put me in my body suit like took care of every second took notes during my sets to know what editor like she did everything she has a notebook during my sets the other day I made my mom get on a Zoom because my mom is an accountant. It's not like I'm just like bringing my mom.

My mom is a professional woman. And I saw her with her glasses and her little pen. And I actually, my mom is sitting in the crowd with her notebook. And that'll actually make me cry because it's, that is just like you have to talk to your friends sometimes. You have to, women are so important.

That's so important. No one else is doing that for you except your fucking mom. And I had this magical moment when I was on stage and you're, still scared you're like holy fuck this is the special i've been working two years for this moment and she was wearing this light blazer and somehow in the darkness i see her blazer and i see that she's smiling like i saw her teeth smiling and i like got this rush of confidence that i was like we're in this we're doing it like your mom's there for you then i get a text from my dad who wasn't able to come i think he was also i think he was

was one nervous and also he had to like do a couple things i think he was like also last time he like heard that there was free catering for the crew and just kept getting in line for the free catering so it was whatever but um also my dad and i are very connected emotionally where like he doesn't have to physically be there like he's my coach i love him to death so i get a text from him the next day on saturday baby you've worked so hard for this just go out there and be yourself love you and in that moment i was like isn't it funny to think that like you're still their child no i know like you're still like the baby they brought home from the hospital i was this close to post in this on instagram being like i love my dad so much thank you and then i stopped myself i said wait wait wait a second this man is

this man is sitting at home sent me a very nice text and i'm about to like be like oh my dad my mom is out here like doing my laundry right now she's rewriting my stander upset she's she's organizing everything and I'm like daddy sent me a text daddy remembered and half the time half the time I know my mom has said hey send a text last you probably told him 100% I got teary I said this man I'm so lucky to have a dad who's so special we're no better than a man we're no better we're no better so let's you guys keep eyes and ears open out here no one can be trusted okay No, and just remember, like, maybe you're not having a horrible day and it's like you hate your life. Maybe you just have to call your friend.

You love a theme. The way you love a theme. You go. And that's why friendship is the best. I love to wrap things up with a bow. One thing you love is a bow. You guys, thank you for giggling with us. We love you so much and we'll talk to you later this week.

Bye.