Giggly Squad - Giggling about man buns, monsters, and diss tracks

Episode Date: October 7, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hannah and I have never been to Italy together, and we've decided we need to make it happen. We're thinking about going to the Amalfi Coast, and instead of booking a hotel, we want to book a place on Airbnb. The places we're looking at is this charming little cottage with beautiful views of the coast, but also just steps away from shops and restaurants. Of course, it's a guest favorite, which means it's one of the most loved homes on Airbnb. It also has a balcony overlooking the water, which is perfect for slow mornings. There's space to hang out and recap our days, and it will give us a place to actually be together. Hotels never really give you that. You're either sitting on your bed in one room or the other, or you have to be in the lobby.
Starting point is 00:00:41 It just doesn't make sense. But here, it would feel like home. We can spread out, have privacy when we want it, and still share all the fun moments that make a trip so memorable. Honestly, it's the kind of place that makes a trip feel like more than just a getaway. It makes it feel like you belong there. The Audible Original Pride and Prejudice is an intimate performance that will have you falling in love with the Jane Austen classic all over again. Pride and Prejudice stars a full cast, including Marisa Abella from Industry Black Bagged as Elizabeth Bennett, and Harris Dickinson from Baby Girl, where the Crawdads sing, who I love is Mr. Darcy, plus, plus Marianne John Baptiste, Will Poulter, Bill Nye, and Glenn Close as Lady Catherine DeBerg.
Starting point is 00:01:23 Marisa Abella brings you inside the stubborn and complicated mind of Elizabeth Bennett as she navigates family expectations, societal pressures, and her own misconceptions when she meets the enigmatic Mr. Darcy. The new adaptation is vibrant and modern with an original score by Grammy-nominated composer. Whether you're fresh to Pride and Prejudice or want to revisit a cherished favorite, you're in for a new and delightful listening experience. Before enemies to lovers, there was Elizabeth Bennett and Mr. Darcy. Pride and Prejudice is globally recognized as one of the greatest romance novels ever written. Listen to the new Pride and Prejudice at audible.ca slash Jane Austen. What's up, gigglers?
Starting point is 00:02:03 Gary, fix the Wi-Fi. Manifest that shit. We can't be managed. I mean, the day just got away from me. What's up, my Galliano Gigglers? Did I just see a TikTok of it? Two seconds prior, I handled. Who's Galliano?
Starting point is 00:02:24 Wait, Galliano. Was he a painter? No, that's Michelangelo. Okay, can we get into it? Because I hung out with Paige all morning, and we weren't podcasting. And she's like, do not ask me about anything. And I'm like, don't ask me about anything. And she's like, I wasn't going to.
Starting point is 00:02:41 I know we could talk. Like, we literally couldn't speak to each other. We had to just make weird eye contact. but now I want to ask how was Paris because you previously you'd been but you like it was quick you cried in a hotel or something I'd only gone to Paris twice before and with two different boyfriends whore um and honestly some of the worst times I've ever had but if someone's going to ruin Paris it's a man no it's a man I know that it cried both times I was there here's the bright side of that I don't remember why.
Starting point is 00:03:17 And so that, I feel like that's on growth. That's a win. But also like so chic to cry in Paris. I will say, Paris is the only city that I can go to that genuinely makes me pissed off at New York City. Any other city that I go to, I'm like, oh my God. I love living in New York. Thank God I live in New York. Paris, I'm like, New York City should be.
Starting point is 00:03:45 be ashamed of themselves like ashamed explain everything is so vibe they have restaurants that have been around like literally me and my glam mitchell taylor josephine and my mom went out to dinner you you want full housewives with the glam no i'm different i went to paris fashion week treat me differently so we're out to dinner one night and taylor's like ordering dessert and she's like as a waitress, she's like, how's the suflay? And the suflay was, and the waitress was like, well, the suflay's been on the menu since 1492, so I'd say pretty good. We were like, okay.
Starting point is 00:04:24 It stood the test of time. Funniest part from my end of you being in Paris was there was a moment where Paige is going to Paris, I was going to Pittsburgh. Yeah. Which is, some would say, the Florence of the Midwest. Some would say. Some would say. And we had to jump on a Zoom, which was.
Starting point is 00:04:43 I am so sorry you had to jump on a Zoom while you were in Paris. Oh, I didn't mind at all. But you guys, she doesn't sleep. She works, works, works, works, works. And she gets there. And there's a moment on the Zoom where I don't know what the angle or the lighting was, but our hotel rooms for a split second looked very similar. And when I tell you, they were not similar hotel rooms by any means.
Starting point is 00:05:07 But in that moment, I was like, we look like we could be in the same place. But no, I was in Pittsburgh, shout Pittsburgh. credible time incredible time greatest city um i did nap there wait so but then what about the food what did you eat like did you have a croissant of course i had so many quissants and what was the best thing that i ate oh i had um have you ever had beef wellington oh i thought that was british it sounds british it does sound british is it british i don't know is it beef with like crust on it it's beef that's wrapped in like a puff pastry oh my god i got it right it was so fucking good i like literally almost teared up and then i had a crembrilet that i've never i mean it was like
Starting point is 00:05:57 no crumbruly i've ever had well now you can't like this is the problem with going to paris now you'll never enjoy creme brulee in america again and that's never that's like the fight you have to fight it was my mom's first time in paris so saturday night we went to the restaurant that like um it was like this japanese really it was so vibey inside and you had like a direct view of the Eiffel tower was like right out the window so it was like it was just so it was the best there's something about going on a trip with your mom just the two of you in your 30s like I really highly recommend even just like one night even if you just did like a staycation in a hotel with your mom. It's very emotional because there's a moment where you're like, like,
Starting point is 00:06:45 okay, the first night we were getting ready for bed and like I put my face mask on to sleep. And then she put like eye patches on to sleep. And then she like taped her forehead. And I was like, oh my God, I didn't know you do this stuff before bed. And she was like, looked at me like basically like, yeah, I'm still a girl. Like what? Also, she's like, you're the replica. I'm the original bag. She's like, I'm the blueprint, okay? Like, how do you think you got this way? That's so funny, though, because Lenore, before bed is she's reading a book. She's, like, you know, washing her face, double cleansing.
Starting point is 00:07:21 She's winding down. She's winding down. She puts lotion on her hands. Like, she's one of the, like, I feel like all moms do that. And I'm just, you know, scrolling, sending memes to people. Like, throw me a makeup white. No, literally. Then I run out of it.
Starting point is 00:07:37 I'm like fighting the towel and then it's black everywhere. Some eyeliners do not get off easily. But anyway, back to my questioning about Paris. Yeah. Can we acknowledge this moment of you were rubbing shoulders or rubbing tiny elbows? Yeah, I was air kissing. Air kissing with the fashion elite.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Now, I know you've done stuff with fashion in New York, but Paris Fashion Week has a Geneseecois. Can you explain? It's a totally different vibe. Like what was the. vibe there's something just so much fancier about paris like even walking down the streets like the older women in paris like i know it was fashion week but this was just like their every day they're different like this there was this like older woman she was walking by me and she had just
Starting point is 00:08:26 this full like poofy polka dotted skirt on and like a denim jacket and i was just like oh my god you're so Paris and she was just like on the phone like talking French like but that was just like her outfit for the day yeah and they'll just be like holding baguettes sometimes right you see they're just baguette there's they're holding baguettes they have like croissant like laws I feel like like there's certain croissants that are made with margarine and there's certain croissons that are made with butter and like they take it seriously yeah yeah yeah it's like getting oat milk or like regular milk wrong in your order your day's ruined.
Starting point is 00:09:04 They still don't know what ice coffee is, but I don't judge them for that. Like, you know, I pick my battles. But I just, it really, being there really made me angry at New York City. Like, New York City has truly lost the plot in a lot of ways. And I just, like, even a building in Paris that should be like a janky building that's like, whatever, is still like gorgeous. No, well, Paris is shit. cheek everywhere you look there's just like it's tasteful it's just cool like there was a building and
Starting point is 00:09:37 I was like oh my god let me take like pictures in front of this and then I was like what is this building they're like it's a doctor's office like we don't know you're like cute I need a shot this is gorgeous they're like this is a dentist well I I went to Italy once when I was 14 to play tennis tournament and I didn't really see anything and then I mean anyway then I've been to Ireland a couple times which I'm obsessed with but like Paris is like my the only European city I've like been to and I like did you do any vintage shopping? Okay so Sunday. I know you were very busy at YSL Sunday my mom woke me up at like the crack of dawn because she wanted to go to church at Notre Dom and like I got I get it like she wanted to see it she's very Catholic she's very religious
Starting point is 00:10:27 And, like, as I'm, like, so angry inside because I'm, like, it's 7 a.m. And so, like, as we're walking in, I look at her and I'm like, wait, you're not even going to understand this. You don't speak of French. I'm like, why are we here? She's like, it's for the ambiance. It's for the vibes. And, like, we could have just, like, walked in and seen it.
Starting point is 00:10:52 And then we walk out, and I'm like, okay, like, did you love it? And she looked at me and she was, like, honestly, same. Patrick's Cathedral I think is like more impressive I was like oh my god no when mom's guilt tribute wake up early because they want to do something and like Notre Dame had had like a fire oh yeah it's still like under construction right or it's done and so and I know that like one of the things my mom loves to do is like light a candle for someone like going to any church and like light a candle and I was like oh like do they have candles here and she looked at me and she was like they had a fire no they don't like as if I had offended the I was like okay sorry when I went to Paris with my mom
Starting point is 00:11:32 what's like the big triangle thing the Louvre yeah the Louvre yeah so um by the way I did download Duolingo and practice French for a day but the Louvre um I there was like this crazy line and like all she wanted to do was go the Louvre and I looked to her I was like mom let's go to a nice restaurant yeah talk shit and um um um um me yeah and we and let's just take some photos outside the loaves let's do the little like my finger on the top of it and she was like a hundred percent and i was like oh thank god because that would have been like six hours and then apparently when you go in the art is like really small it's like media celebrity when you like you're like why are you so small you're like why does your
Starting point is 00:12:13 wikipedia say six foot because baby no okay where's the body um kim did make me go to a museum and then we went to lunch and then we were going to go vintage shopping because I had like a list of places I want to go but I got too caught up in the here and now stores you know and so I had like allotted yeah I had an allotted by time correctly that's where does and I got into a fight because when we were in Paris I was like I'm going to go shopping and I was like we need to go to like these designer stores and he goes first of all you live next to soho yeah you can go to any of these fucking stores. And I was like, no, it's a different vibe. And I really, really, they get different stuff. But then also, I didn't have the balls to buy anything because I'm cheap. So he kept
Starting point is 00:13:02 being like, why are you going and pretending to buy something again? And then I finally called you and you, like, told me to buy something. Wait, how was Vicky? Victoria was a freaking dream. And you know her, her documentary is coming out Thursday. It's iconic because she was like featured in her husband's documentary. and I think it like went kind of well and then she was like and now I'm going to do a real fucking documentary about my side of the story okay because she's iconic she's also hilarious and people don't realize that I don't think she's extremely funny extremely yeah because she has that like British dry sense of humor they're just like naturally funny I will say I was sitting at the show and I watched all of her family members walk in sorry there was a moment where I was looking at her one young son and I was just like oh actually this is pedoph I can't look at him. This is like inappropriate. How old is he?
Starting point is 00:14:00 I think he's like 19, maybe 20. Wait, so the kids are like beautiful? Gorgeous. I mean, beautiful. I mean, they're just like a great looking family. Was David there? Yeah, of course. What do you think about?
Starting point is 00:14:12 He's a supportive king. Yeah, what do you think about Zaddy David? I mean, it's so hot. They're just such a good looking couple and you can tell that he like supports her. so much and okay here's the celebrities that I saw that were there evil angoria Olivia Munn Sophia Vergara Anna Wintore and that's just who I saw yeah but also like it was so chic when you pulled first of all it was raining which like I was excited for because I'm like oh Paris in the rain so when you pulled up there was all these like beautiful men kissing
Starting point is 00:14:52 here's the other thing. Here's the other thing. French men are so hot. And also I like a grumpy man. So like pissed off French men is the energy I like. In America, if you approach me with a man bun, truly see yourself out. Yeah. In France, I'm with it. I'm here for it. I'm like, it's your culture. But I do have to say speaking French is just for women. Absolutely. So like, I don't like the, when they start speaking. Don't talk to me when you come up. Yeah. Don't talk. Okay, so you get out of the car and there's like all these beautiful men holding. umbrella to like escort you in and then you like walk through this like little like outdoor you like go through these gates then it's like outdoor until you get to the building and
Starting point is 00:15:34 I'm like what is this building I think it was like an old it's like a government building or something or it was like an old hospital it's a doctor's office like literally it was like an old hospital and I was like it's stunning like every building there is just the prettiest building you've ever seen in your life here's the other thing though I love being Italian so like I really enjoyed it but I love being Italian and I love my people and I love Italy more and that was for the UN if they're listening yeah because there's just a realness in it in Italy I feel like that there isn't other places I also do think that like if we have to leave America will we Sicily
Starting point is 00:16:22 could be good like by the water i'm going to try and get my italian passport it's really important to me a canoli by the water um well i knew when i was in pittsburg by the way beautiful like incredible bridges like the architecture but i uber in these other cities is such an adventure um when you get in an uber if it is a white man he will talk to you about how he lost his kids um but he is going to see them on the weekend. Okay. But dating is really difficult because it's the same three women in his area. And I was invested.
Starting point is 00:17:01 I was like, well, what are we going to do about it, Steve? Yeah. What are we going to do? And have you been going to court order to therapy? And then I ordered Uber Eats. Mm-hmm. And the courier, it was like definitely taking a long time, but I was like, no rush. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:17:15 And I check it. This man was walking. How many miles? A lot of miles, but at that point I was like, babe. No bike? No bike. You just walk. I didn't know couriers could just walk.
Starting point is 00:17:28 I thought that was illegal. Not even, not even, um, roller skates. Maybe put some pep in your step and do a light jog. Not even a light jog. Wait, that's diabolical. I could have picked it up if you were going to walk. How long did it take? I mean, probably took like an hour total, but this guy, I felt bad, but maybe
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Starting point is 00:19:53 The new adaptation is vibrant and modern with an original score by Grammy-nominated composer. Whether you're fresh to Pride and Prejudice or want to revisit a cherished favorite, you're in for a new and delightful listening experience. Before enemies to lovers, there was Elizabeth Bennett and Mr. Darcy. Pride and Prejudice is globally recognized as one of the greatest romance novels ever written. Listen to the new Pride and Prejudice at audible.ca. jane austin i actually ordered mcdonalds in paris how was it phenomenal here's the thing though one thing i noticed in paris they're obsessed with bacon like they put bacon on like all their salad i'm like guys i don't need it on my cheeseburger well hot take i love the breakfast and then
Starting point is 00:20:36 it can be like hit or miss well everything there is really heavy they yeah they love freets like you can't like you couldn't go to paris for more than four days and eat breakfast lunch and dinner you'd feel you'd have to check yourself into the hospital well that's why they're they're all just chain smoking cigarettes chain smoking i've never seen here's the other thing the streets don't make any sense i don't know how they drive there like once i think it's a one way and then it's it it doesn't make any sense to me that's how normal streets feel for me but continue. Everyone's smoking cigarettes in their car. Which I'm like, oh, interesting. No, it's not chic and I need pop stars to stop with the cigarettes. I'm going to be that mom.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Wait, why? Cigarettes are making like such a comeback on Instagram. And can I say something? Yeah. People forget history. Yeah. People forget history. And now we're just starting over, which people forgetting that cigarettes kill people. If you smoke cigarettes, you die and you will get an SDD. I don't know why that's becoming, like, such a trend. And, like, even girls, like, putting it in their Instagram pictures. I know, and it's, like, the cool girls, too. Here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:21:58 In Europe, I'm not, I like to have a good time. I'm not a prude. If someone offers me a skinny sig in Paris after I just had, like, a couple cocktails, I'm going to smoke it. But I'm not going to promote smoking it on my Instagram. well I certainly look some of my friends will like post and I'm like okay who cares but I feel like I'm not going to promote that because we have like 16 year old girls that follow us but I'm just very surprised that it's become so much more common than it used to be do you think big tobacco um has a deal
Starting point is 00:22:34 with Charlie XXX I think big tobacco is really beefing with like vaping and they're like oh yeah yeah well big tobacco I wonder if some of these information ones are sponsored by big tobacco because some of them i'm like this is a cigarette ad charlie xx smoking a cigarette she's european i don't i'm not mad at her about that since you brought up charlie xx okay this episode is like pure pure intense drama let's bring this is a stream consciousness yeah do you think that taylor swift was making a disc track to charlie xx oh my god great great And what do you think of disc tracks in general since Cardi B and Nikki Minaj are disc tracking back and forth? Is it distracking or they're just tweeting?
Starting point is 00:23:25 I think they're doing a little bit of both. A little bit of both. Okay. I love, I think a disc track is fun. Okay. I prefer it to like tweet fighting. I think I think the disc track at least gets some art out of it. I liked when it was just the.
Starting point is 00:23:44 men doing like rap disc tracks because I'm like that's so then I'm actually upset that it's like gone over into the girls because I almost felt like wow women are like so above that like they don't put out disc tracks and now I feel like
Starting point is 00:24:01 it's going to become more of a thing I like distrax for men because it's basically just poems that they're doing that they're writing for each other that they're writing for each other and that's like adorable that's adorable and they're like this rhymes and it was kind of mean and everyone's like oh but you're right i don't like the women doing it to each other it's my same this is my rule with reality tv if you're gonna fight fight fight with the men if you're gonna get in a blowout fight do it towards a man i want a distract
Starting point is 00:24:29 towards the men um i hope but if the girls sometimes like they're like it's good marketing for both of them and maybe that's good to support women in the arts um true here's the thing I don't like about Nikki and Cardi beefing. They're bringing their children into it. And I'm like, oh, they're going to see that one day. And it's like, I don't like that. Well, also because Cardi and Nikki are two of the greatest rappers who ever lived. And like, I could never pick.
Starting point is 00:24:54 We don't have to choose one. I can never. Yeah, it just, it's like, we want enough room for all the women. And again, and then the Taylor and the Taylor and Charlie X, the X, the all the girls are fighting. We're all, like, fighting for a spot. And it's like, this is why men, the patriarchs. still exist because we're trying to take each other down and Gwen Stefani's fighting bread like Gwen Stefani. Wait, who's Gwen Stefani fighting? I'm just like Gwenopatra's fighting bread.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Fighting who? Bread. Actually, no, I think when Guerneth Paltrow came out and said that she was like... Eating bread again? Yeah. Oh, so if Paltrow squashed her beef with bread, we can stop fighting other women. also with the Taylor Charlie stuff what do you think it's a this try um I don't know enough of the lore between them to make a conscious like decision on it here's the one thing I'll say about Taylor Swift if it is she kind of ate with the fact that like yeah nobody loves you more than the girl that absolutely fucking hates you like no one no one tries to copy you more or be you more than the girl that hates you but that is so true so like I act and I feel like girls can like resonate with that and I do think the song like people are resonating with it it's not like so specific like where they're like hey at Cardi B stupid bitch it was kind of a general thing but the the cocaine mention I think was like at Charlie and I would argue that
Starting point is 00:26:36 I give more credit to Nikki and Cardi because they're like, no, I hate you. Where like if Taylor is talking about it, I kind of wish she would have said it with her chest. Set it with her chest. Now, this is coming from someone who didn't listen to the album. Wait, I'm in deep with the album. Like I have so many, babe. Wait, you listen to every song.
Starting point is 00:26:55 Well, I've been flying on planes all weekend. It's like all I have to do. And you like don't believe in entertainment on flights. No, so just me and my Delta headphones listening to her swims. I have so many thoughts. And I'm a fan. And look, I like Charlie X, X, X, X. I like Taylor Swift.
Starting point is 00:27:10 And I do, like, I think the people, like, coming on the internet and making, like, dissertations on how it's the worst album ever, like, get a hobby. But also the people that are, like, going on the internet and crying about how it's the best thing they've ever heard also get a hobby. So, like, I'm kind of, like, in the middle. That's a valid point. Extremist, extremism is bad. Extreme is not for me.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Extremism is bad. I can, like, songs and whatever. I do have to say. this is something like her 12th album and she's only 35 and iconic I I love that like someone's putting out art and like I would imagine she puts this out and then decides because of the blowback because some people didn't like it I'm like she doesn't have to put it on an album also it's art like you don't have to like it and her still make a billion dollars yeah like it's like she didn't have to put herself up for all this criticism and she did so I'm like grateful that like she's doing that the only thing I'll say is I am still shocked that she announced her I still haven't gotten over it that she announced her album on a male sports podcast like that I still can't believe she did I just feel like that's so not her I think she's like madly and is in like so clocked into this the the pot actually made me laugh like she's funny
Starting point is 00:28:32 She is funny. She's funny and very smart. But there was one story she said that I just have to raise awareness about. She said when she sold her masters, she went to go find Travis who was playing video games. We don't talk about that enough. No, people aren't talking about that enough. When they're not playing the sport, they play pretend sports against each other. And you know this man has a headset.
Starting point is 00:28:56 And he's 36. Do you know that I've never dated a guy who was really ever. into video games. So actually, I've never either, but I have friends who have. Like Andy Murray, who's one of the best tennis players ever lived, his wife almost divorced him because he was so addicted to video games. Like, you know how it's annoying when like your man's on his phone? By the way, when I'm on my phone, I'm doing research.
Starting point is 00:29:22 But when he is, you're like, hello, I'm telling you a story that you probably heard before. This might be like my own internal thing, but I'm never mad when I'm being left alone. sorry i actually can't relate because like i can occupy myself it's more like when i have a thought that i want to say it's more being ignored yeah and i have to wait for him to finish texting i'm like who is so important yes yes well i like this is comedic timing like i had the moment we're losing the moment i'm going to forget what i'm going to say i've ADHD and now i'm out of you yeah and that's just a tuesday but um well yeah oh yeah javis calls you playing video games i just have to say taylor it was so relatable that she's like my he was playing
Starting point is 00:30:08 video games i had to wake him up and i'm like taylor swift is in your house you should be watching her make sourdough bread what do you mean you're playing video games you should be listening to her play guitar the other thing that was crazy was that like she was obviously like going on podcast and doing like press for her album and i think she was on like a british podcast or something or like radio show and the guy was and no no no different and the guy was like oh there's like like rumors that this is your last album because you're like getting married and she said what a wildly offensive like thing to say like that's not like the reason the majority of women get married like what and here you have taylor swift who is a self-made billionaire who has topped who has done so many
Starting point is 00:30:54 like broken so many whatever the first of anyone to do all these different things and she she and she is getting defined by like oh well your trappist Kelsey's fiance like the the massaginary you're married now so you can't work because it's like what's different I have a ring on my finger now what you think it's like weighing me down or that she has to now like tend to her husband it's great that she like stood up for herself there also people are doing like think pieces on like some of the lyrics being like trad wifey or whatever or her like yeah no i do have to say if you don't listen to the lyrics which i'm be honest i don't i'm not in it for that yeah um there's a lot of like okay i'm like deep in taylor swift lore right now okay wow
Starting point is 00:31:46 so basically apparently of the swifties there's like the ones who love like evermore and love and folk and so like the sadder folk lore they love like the folk like her like talking like lyrically whatever um i was a girl who liked like red like i liked reputation yeah i like i like just like bobby so like i'm saying one one thing about this album and i feel like everyone can see to an extent yeah some of these songs you can knock it out your head like it's kind of like i listened to it two twice and i'm like trying to go to sleep and i can't stop hearing it she has some Taylor crack cocaine that she borrowed from Charlie X-A-X in these. They're very poppy.
Starting point is 00:32:34 I do think with Taylor, her songs are, look at me going full. No, you're going full dissertation, and then I have to change the subjects because I actually can't anymore. I just feel like she, it's like her journal. It's like her therapy. So it's like, yes, she wouldn't say these things, but it's like her expressing her, like, deepest thoughts. And that's what I, one argument I have to say about people being like, oh, it's not good lyrics.
Starting point is 00:32:56 I don't know if it ever, like long term, like, remember her song, like, welcome to New York? Like, that was not a lyrical. It was like, welcome to New York. Yeah. We've been waiting for you. Welcome to New York. Like, I was like, okay, cool. Like, shake it, whatever.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Wait, like, did she have to be Shakespeare every time? No, I think the point is, is that it's cool that she writes the music where now, look, I'm deep in Nashville also. Mm-hmm. Oh, so you're dialed in. Are you still watching Nashville? You know, I kind of fell off a little bit. Did you watch the first season? I'm not done with the first season
Starting point is 00:33:28 But I'll catch up Okay I know we like have the show together And then like I feel like a bad boyfriend Like I Well I paused because like something happened That I was like But I'm like working through it
Starting point is 00:33:40 Okay I'll get back on the train Because I actually rarely watch movies Like I'm really more of like a show You are Not to bring up Taylor Swift again But I'm a show girl Also Nashville has like 28 episodes in the first season I know, which is really, really good for my mental health.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Yeah. But I watch this show. Did I talk about this on the pod about the show, the movie Swiped on Hulu? You brought it up, but I don't know if you want to detail. I urge everyone to go and watch the movie Swiped on Hulu. It's based off the woman who created Bumble. No, the lore, first of all, she's one of the founders of Tinder, okay? they basically cut her out because she was dating the other founder of Tinder like one of the guys
Starting point is 00:34:30 and he was being like super abusive super unprofessional sending her all these like now granted this is like Tinder wait I feel like we talked about this on the pod you you did you did but I didn't want to stop you okay never mind sorry oh no it's okay go watch it it's so good but it's basically about like a woman getting revenge on like her ex-boyfriend and then like basically creating like a way better app and becoming like a billionaire and I'm just like really obsessed with all things Whitney Wolf heard but she really can't talk about anything because she's under an NDI which I also just like love but Lily James plays her and it's just so good Lily James Depp oh no no you guys we are a pop culture podcast
Starting point is 00:35:23 Yes. Okay? No. Wait, can I say something to raise awareness for female stand-up comedians? Yes. Okay, so I always think about how, like, it's so difficult for female stand-up comedians to exist. And one of the reasons is because when you start in the stand-up community, you're like one of the few girls, and you're just surrounded by men all the time. So inevitably, it's your co-workers, so inevitably you start dating, like, one of the cute male stand-ups. When you break up, which you inevitably do, do because they live on their moms. Say inevitably one more time. I'm going to lose it. I was not aware I said it at all. At least it's not essentially that shit is so annoying. But inevitably you date the one and you break up, then that dude tells all his friends, don't book her on the show. Don't book her on the show. And these were all your friends. So there's so many women who have trouble making it in stand-up comedy like in New York City because they dated a stand-up once. And then then all the boys turn their back on them and next thing you know they can't get stage time they feel awkward when they walk into clubs they don't want to be funny because it's hard to be funny when
Starting point is 00:36:30 all these men are staring at you and not rooting for you i'm going to go out on a limb here and say this is way more relatable than to just stand-up comedy women get like obviously such a bad rep of like they're crazy my ex-girlfriend's crazy blah blah blah blah blah every single boyfriend i've ever had that i've broken up with i'm not kidding you Hannah every single one since I was 19 years old after I broke up with them in some way shape or form they have tried to fuck me over or exile me from something or called a club and was like don't ever let her in again oh my god every single one has done something that I've then had to be like hey sorry we actually broke up and this is why he's doing this.
Starting point is 00:37:23 like and I've never done any revenge because I believe in karma more than I believe in revenge and I think that if you do something to me it's going to come back to you 10 times worse than I could have ever girls write that down yeah write that down I believe in karma more than revenge that's happened to me before and I believe in that moment you want to be like oh he's fucking with me I need to fuck him but when you step back like that is so sinister of him to do the universe doesn't reward that like and you trying to fuck with him is just getting in the mud with another with pigs like you're just playing getting dirty so like let these men try to take you down I don't believe in actively trying to fuck someone over because I think karma is
Starting point is 00:38:10 like so much stronger I do believe in revenge based on just doing better than them in general and I think that is like a better approach but I also are so fragile. I do have to say, like, there have been times where a guy or a friend has done something to hurt me that, um, lit a fire under my ass to do stuff that I didn't even care about. Yeah. Like, they don't realize that they, they threw dirt on my name and flowers grew. Like, you don't realize I didn't even want to do what I did, but you're the reason. When people try to destroy you, it's, it makes you actually see yourself in a better light. it's more like if no one cares about you like that's also annoying that pisses me off but when someone
Starting point is 00:38:57 cares so much to try to hurt you i'm like oh there's something special about you no they're in love with you don't forget that there and taylor swift was they're in love with you now i am interested to see if charlie xx does something like did she like okay because you know when someone does something to you and you're like oh my god that i know they're talking about me or like i know that's about me yeah do you think that charlie was like oh that's a hundred percent about me and she'll retaliate well this is the thing in the music business if she were to retaliate she would get a shit ton of streams so like business wise i think she might um or she's gonna the next album she puts out she'll put like one or two lyrics that sound like maybe um i always do
Starting point is 00:39:41 think it's so fun though when someone like makes up a lie about you or like really comes for your throat and then you just don't acknowledge it because it's not true and you're just not going to give energy like that's so embarrassing for them no it's actually one of my most favorite things to do because i'm like you can't even say anything because you know you're lying so you can't even like really go into detail because there are none yeah but like and and i'm sitting here because i like genuinely don't care we're having such a savage episode today i don't know what's in the water well you want to know what i have my period and so i'm fucking on the blood moon the red blood moon Like, I almost, like, want to get into a fight just to release what I have inside of me.
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Starting point is 00:43:08 the new like the new season of monster about ed gine ed gine so i was unfamiliar with work as was i as was i now do i hate them like glorifying these monsters yes do i love watching it yes does it remind me my day could have been worse yes does it make life more about perspective and it helps me sleep at night yes is that my own issue yes anyway so he basically was the inspiration behind like the movie psycho which was like the first ever horror thriller sex thriller i didn't I didn't know that was, like, that what they create, that genre was created by Albert Hitchcock. Texas Chainsaw Massacre was inspired by him. Because he had so many different sick things that he did that they had like multiple genres from it.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Yes. And there was also another movie that he, a leather face. Yeah. So this guy, what's with them all being from Wisconsin? What's going on? Go badgers. Go badgers. Go badgers, Bucky.
Starting point is 00:44:10 What's happening? It's cold. So there's not a lot to do. and they're like, should we cut someone up? Okay, here's, I, obviously, sick, sick man, mental problems, mental issues, all of the things. I started to get really nervous about my own self when I was watching it because I had a moment where I was like, oh, he's killing people, but he, he's not torturing them. Like, he's killing them and they don't even know they're about to get killed. and like when you hear about like his childhood and like his mom you're like oh he had no option other
Starting point is 00:44:50 than to be a fucking psychopath and so like I didn't I think he did I didn't feel bad for him at all like I'm not saying that I felt bad for him and they said that he had like a gentleness to him which is why he kept getting babysitting gigs I was on TikTok last night like he spoke really softly and he was it was kind i almost feel like if he didn't be if he didn't if his schizophrenia didn't come out he probably would have been just like a nice midwestern guy but because he had on like he wasn't treating schizophrenia like it just took oh he just he could there's nothing he could have done so for you guys who don't know apparently his apparently his mom was super religious and like told him all girls are evil and she just has to love him she brainwash she brain on she when she died he was
Starting point is 00:45:39 left just like obsessed with her and missing her and almost wanting to be her because like he would cross-dress but he wasn't and i did look up because there was this thing where it was like he would have sex with dead bodies i looked up that wasn't like confirmed so he's a good guy no but like he no no let's not go there let's not go there he's a sick sick man who tortured and no he made lampshades out of people's skin the cat honestly they were dead at the time yes and the sewing work was incredible it's it's just sick but it does make you feel better about yourself you're like okay have a little ocd like no same i'm like okay so i get i have a panic attack once a year no big deal i can take a pill but um apparently if you want to look
Starting point is 00:46:34 deeper into it there's like an edgine tape thing um No, he's sick, and I, I'm sorry for saying that, like, I felt bad for him. I didn't feel bad for him, but I was just like, he could have been safe. Like, if he had modern medicine and therapy and, like, a normal upbringing, like, I think he could have been saved. I don't think he would have turned into this monster. Yeah, yeah. The schizophrenic stuff was hard to come back from once, like, apparently it happens, like,
Starting point is 00:47:02 in your early 20s sometimes. And honestly, that's why we need to have kids because there's too many crazy people. like procreating making monsters and we need to have children and make nice normal humans wait that is the big nicest compliment you ever gave me because I feel like I'm kidding I can't wait till your child can like tell jokes because I'm I know I'm gonna be laughing at that kid so sarcastic I'm like what'd you say I can't wait for the first time my daughter like looks someone up and down and it's like that's what she picked to wear mom and I'm like I know keep it in their side like I can't wait
Starting point is 00:47:39 for the first time she offends someone, I'm like, you can't say that. You can't say that. Also, when kids offend you, it hurts on, like, such a deeper level. Because it's, it's, it's, there's pure honesty. Yeah. Ernest. Also, one more thing about Ed Gein. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Just like as a Hollywood, um, note, I think he would have been bigger if, if they changed his name. Like Ted Bundy, great name. Great name. Zodiac Killer, great name. Ed Gein doesn't roll off the tongue. doesn't hit it didn't he didn't for how many things were like based off of him i this was the first time i'd ever heard his name yeah his PR didn't do a great no get her let's what do with
Starting point is 00:48:20 cat PR company like let's let's get better um not great i'm Wisconsin didn't have a good ad agency at the time but I do think um I wanted to bring something up about our minds yeah we were on another meeting we were both on my computer and you start embarrassing me in front of everyone being like I mean, yeah, do you have so many tabs open? I'm sorry. Did that embarrass you? I thought we were in America. I thought we had freedom of speech.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Also, we love capitalism. Do you not have a lot of tabs open? No, Hannah, I have no tabs open. I have the tab that I'm currently working on and no tabs open unless I have to remember something. I also have zero emails and zero text messages. That's the type of person that I am. You're shocked.
Starting point is 00:49:05 When you online shop, you don't have like, 4,000 tabs open and then like don't know if you want to buy it and you leave it open and you're afraid to X out of it in case you like have a curated oh you just buy it decisive I just buy it I deal with that problem when it comes then I'm like return it so I can't no see I have like 500 zara tabs open no because then if I get a notification like something you added to your car is like running out then like the anxiety of that I have to then I have to go buy it I'm like I can't have other people have it and I not have it. No.
Starting point is 00:49:41 It's, wait, this is crazy. Our computers really are like our rooms because you see chaos. I have it actually like I know every single tab. And if someone exed out of this, I'd be like, I lost everything.
Starting point is 00:49:53 Like I have everything organized in the most like unorganized way. And everything for me has a home. Everything has a place. That's what my mom says. She said, everything is have a home. Yeah. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:50:05 And if you clear, any of you clear. I also think. that your bedroom is a reflection of the inside of your mind and so like i can't fall asleep if like i've clothes all over if my closet door is open like i need things to be serene for like my brain to calm down do you ever feel like you'd rather lay down though instead of clean and you like you don't have to so you just don't no because if i'm laying down i physically it gives me like anxiety that there's things around and that's depression versus
Starting point is 00:50:38 anxiety people and that's 101 and that's how we're relatable yet different no we literally textbooks suffer you have depression I have anxiety that's crazy Hannah but sometimes we dabble like I girl you know I dabble in anxiety totally I haven't been depressed in a while though knock on wood okay humble brag yeah now I'm sure it's coming next week or something since I'm on tour shout out everyone see me in phoenix and Vegas this weekend my mom's coming um my question to you is when you have like a nine o'clock flight and let's say you land at like 11 30 noon are you drinking coffee beforehand but then you're like jacked on the flight like listening to nashville songs just like my leg shaking like crazy or do you land and you feel like you have a little headache and
Starting point is 00:51:29 you feel off and then you're like going to have trouble sleeping at night or you just don't get affected by caffeine the way I do I don't get affected by caffeine the way you do I think it's mind over matter like I think it's I think you go it's called being weak minded I have never been the like people would be like oh my god you can't drink soda after like eight o'clock and I'm like grow up people do hard drugs you know so I've never people are making lamp shades out of people's skin you could have Diet Coke at a grip so I've never subscribed to that school of thought like i can will myself to fall asleep okay i know we were talking the car about how i'm the opposite of charlie sheen like how charlie sheen can handle anything and i like
Starting point is 00:52:16 i can't but i also think it is mental too like i i succumb to it it's like when i smoke weed i just go around asking anyone everyone how to get on high instead of just leaning into it you're not good with substances like you can't really i can't even have a lot of I can't have a full apple juice. I can't have a full apple juice. You get like, yes, you're one of those kids that like, like, I don't think I was ever affected by sugar as a child. Like, I don't remember. It is not on brand for me to be hyper.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Like, I don't think I was ever hyper as a child. Do you know my mom used to, like, I wouldn't stop, like, being awake and, like, talking. And she would just slowly, like, press my head down on the pillow. Press your pillow into your face. And I go, shish, she'd be like, maybe this will make it stop. But then, and then I, she would just, like, kind of softly hold my head down until I fell asleep. Wait, saying it out loud sounds crazy. I was literally bathing myself, putting myself in cute, set pajamas, getting myself in bed, and then yelling, mom, I'm in bed.
Starting point is 00:53:23 No, my mom had to dress me in what I was going to wear the next day because it was going to be so chaotic the next morning when I woke up to just know that I was ready. so that when I run... No. See, I was like the opposite. I was like, mom, where are the fuck are my matching socks? Like, I'll burn this house down. See, I'm like, I'm not wearing socks. I don't like how they feel on my toes. Also, my dad used to do this thing where when I was waking up in the morning,
Starting point is 00:53:49 he'd be like, time to wake up, and obviously I wouldn't. Right. Because... Free will. And then he would do this countdown, and he was like, don't let me get to zero. Which, like, I don't think it's a good way to start your dad. And maybe I should talk to that's anxiety.
Starting point is 00:54:03 He would be like, okay, 10, don't make me come in there. Nine. And I'd wait until it was like two. And then I'd be like, wait, were you a child that got like one, two? Yes. Yes. Yes. That makes a lot of sense.
Starting point is 00:54:18 I was a timeout child. I had a lot of timeouts. I also, but then my dad started abusing it. Like I would be like 13. He'd be like, give me the remote. And I'd be like, no. And he'd be like, five, four. I'm like, you can't use it for this.
Starting point is 00:54:30 I didn't do anything wrong. and he's like three, don't wait me get to one. It's so funny because I really don't think I was a child. Like, I'm not kidding. Like, I never had one, two. I don't, I never, like, got in trouble. Did you ever get in trouble in school? Never.
Starting point is 00:54:46 For, you never got in trouble for chatting? Well, you had to have me in your class because me and you would have been living in detention. Like, maybe I would get, like, page, like, quiet down. But I never got, like, pages, like, a problem to have in class. I was, I was never a problem. I did get like too chatty and occasionally I would try to like start a revolt but otherwise like I feel like after second grade I realized like oh you need the teachers to like you and then I was like fully on board I was like fuck my friends like I think I was just like so checked out that I'm like I literally don't give a fuck about this I'm never going to need it don't care don't care to even get in trouble because I don't want to be here do you know I used to walk to middle school from my house and i would get lost all the time wait that's so new york city it's crazy it was like
Starting point is 00:55:37 six blocks wait at what age did your parents start let you go by yourself in elementary school me and my brother would walk to school like i mean park slope was like so nice in the 90s like so beautiful i just remember like fall leaves and me my brother would walk to school wait that's so sweet and it was like three blocks like it wasn't far and then all the other kids would be walking to school But I remember getting in trouble in school and knowing that the teacher was going to try to talk to my mom. So then I realized if I can get to my mom before her, I could be like, Mom, I want a PPNJ, let's get out of here. You're scheming. You're prodding.
Starting point is 00:56:16 I was like, hey, mom, real quick, can I talk to your first second? Can I believe for this? Can I believe her for a chat? And then I, yeah, so anyway, I figured it out, but I was definitely chatty. And I would raise my hand all the time, which you didn't. No, I never did. Well, I couldn't read. And that's my villain origin story.
Starting point is 00:56:41 I literally could not read until like, the third grade. And I, so I hated school. And then I just got competitive. Anyway, I digress. We digress. We digress. You guys, thank you so much for gickling with us on this deep emotional episode of analyzing things and realizing things. I'm going to be on Jimmy Fallon tomorrow night.
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