Giggly Squad - Giggling about updates, crying, and stuff

Episode Date: December 30, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I used to say I just feel stuck, but then I discovered lifelong learning. It gave me the skills to move up, gain an edge, and prepare for what's next. The University of Toronto School of Continuing Studies. Lifelong learning to stay forever unstuck. What's up, gigglers? Gary, fix the wifi. Manifest that shit. We can't be managed. I mean, the day just got away from me. What's up, growing and learning gigglers? We're growing and realizing things every day. I was trying to sound like Courtney.
Starting point is 00:00:41 We're growing, okay. Long story short, we're gonna start with some housekeeping up top. We're both very nervous this episode. We have Radio City, I think there's a couple tickets left, but then we added Nashville, New Orleans, St. Augustine, Florida, where we have no idea where that is, Hollywood, Florida. I've never been to New Orleans.
Starting point is 00:01:00 I'm actually so excited to eat a beignet. Oh my God, that's honestly the chicest food I've ever heard. I feel like beignet is the name of your next cat. Oh, yes! Can you spell beignet? I don't think it's important to be able to because the cat can't. You go, I don't think anyone can spell beignet.
Starting point is 00:01:17 I don't think that's a thing that people spell. They just say it. So then we have Portland, Vegas Salt Lake City check it out Okay, this is gonna be a unique episode of giggly squad I mean not really yes and no because I here's what else first and foremost say anything that's happening in my life First I tell Hannah First I tell my mom then I tell Hannah and then I tell the gigglers First I tell my mom, then I tell Hannah, and then I tell the gigglers.
Starting point is 00:01:44 So if something in the universe is going on and I haven't said it to the gigglers first, then it's not true. And you've said things to me before that aren't true. That I've lied to you multiple times. What is reality? And so I was trying to think about how I was gonna say this,
Starting point is 00:02:05 and one of the things that popped in my head was our beta blocker episode was probably one of the most nervous I've been to do an episode and say just something I've never talked about before in real time of how I felt a couple days prior to that and I think it was like our biggest response episode because there were just so many gigglers were like wow like this was like on another level like we get each other we've truly formed a cult. This pod was made off of making fun of
Starting point is 00:02:40 each other and most importantly ourselves but in that as you're making fun of yourself you start being like holy shit I'm seeing some real shit and we talk about it and we go in and out all the time but look the gigglers are our best friends yeah and it's kind of crazy like we've been doing this podcast now for five years it does not feel like that at all because we're only 26 because literally I'm 27 like when COVID started so obviously I want to tell the gigglers first and I and I feel like the most comfortable with the gigglers and I know that like people are gonna like take
Starting point is 00:03:14 these clips and it's gonna be not a lot of non gigglers like chatting this is all just you announcing you have another UTI and the gigglers are like, we're tired, we're tired Paige. So I know this is gonna be a little dramatic episode and we didn't have a plan. We didn't have a plan and I told her my plan was to let her talk. And my plan was to let Hannah talk. Never gonna.
Starting point is 00:03:40 We got on the pod and we've realized that we have no plan. This episode is pre-recorded, so we'll say that in case anything happens in the news that we're not touching on because it's all about me right now. What I did want to say was that Craig and I have decided to no longer be together. And I know I said I would never cry on the internet,
Starting point is 00:04:04 but it's okay if I cry on the pod. I feel like that's okay. It's weird, obviously it's weird. Like it's very weird. I wasn't expecting this obviously when we first started dating. Like you don't think like oh what's gonna happen? Like will we get married? Will we not? You just kind of like are in this relationship not you just kind of like are in this relationship. And as you get older, I mean, I started dating Craig and I was 29. And I'm 32 now and your 30s for women I feel like really are very transformative and you change a lot and you grow a lot. And him as well. Not to sound traditional and old fashioned, but like this is not a situation where I have a 50-part series of who the fuck was I dating?
Starting point is 00:04:50 Could not be more opposite of that. I have so much love and respect for Craig. I think he is one of the best people I've ever met in my entire life. I will remain the biggest fan of him and want the best for him, and he truly will get the best because he is the best. But with that said I think it was just the right
Starting point is 00:05:11 decision for both of us like moving forward in our lives and like the direction that our lives are are going in that we like didn't foresee or like whatever. It's a very sad thing and And just to say this, not that I even have to, but in terms of people saying rumors like, oh, Paige was told to wait until Southern Charm came out or Summerhouse came out, no one can tell me what to do. The network has power, but they don't have that much power. So that was not a real thing.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Like rumors of us breaking up months ago, again, also not a real thing. I feel like when we started dating, our first rumor was like we were in a PR relationship. So like we've been with these rumors, our whole relationship. So we didn't really give it a second thought, but I didn't want the gigglers to think like,
Starting point is 00:06:06 oh, I was like leaving them out of the loop or something. Like not at all. Like any time those rumors were happening, we were still together. When we did break up, like obviously I didn't run to social media and I didn't run to the pod. Like we both gave each other like a little time to deal with it on our own in private like with our family and friends and now I feel like it is appropriate to like be able to tell people and so obviously I would come to the gigglers first I'm not like throwing up an adjoin Instagram post you know that's not how I'm gonna handle it but I love him I think he loves me. I think we will remain friends.
Starting point is 00:06:48 No one did anything. It wasn't like a bad thing. I think we both were just being really mature and saying what we want and what we didn't want. And I think that's like extremely powerful to be able to voice like how you're feeling in real time and what you want for your future. Wow.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Wow. You're so fucking strong for being in a public relationship and putting yourself out there. And you guys, you both fought really hard for this and wanting to make it work. And I do have to say, shout out to Craig, because reality TV dating is really hard for this and wanting to make it work. And I do have to say, shout out to Craig, because reality TV dating is really hard. And I remember when you found him,
Starting point is 00:07:31 he was the first guy who really like lifted you up and was so- Who like got you. He was so proud of you for what you were accomplishing, like on TV and off TV. And you hadn't had a guy that support you like that. He's a huge reason for who you are in the last couple years becoming who you are.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Oh my God, thank you for saying that because I would have not even been able to say that to the gigglers. He truly helped me grow so much in these past three years. I am a different person than when I started dating him. I truly do feel more mature, more confident, all of these things and that's definitely a tribute to him. It's just so weird to talk about it. It's just so weird. It's also weird
Starting point is 00:08:21 because we forget people listen to the pod and I think why we're nervous is we know more people will like listen in to get the tea. Yeah, no, that's what it is. We know that it's non-gigglers listening and we're like, ah! Yes, because I'm like beta blocker episode. Like once I got into the story, I was like, girls, listen up.
Starting point is 00:08:37 This is like, I feel awkward because I don't want to say anything that can be like taken and misconstrued about him or about the breakup or any of it. To make this about me. Yeah, please. What was hardest about it for me. No, what was hardest about this relationship
Starting point is 00:08:53 was that there wasn't a smoking gun. And I think the positive for anyone who's listening right now is that relationships don't just end because there was a murder-suicide. Like relationships don't just end because there was a murder-suicide. Like relationships don't just end because there's a sand of all, or like something, or he's, you know, doing fucked up things.
Starting point is 00:09:14 The hardest relationship I think to get out of is sometimes when you're like, I love this person, do I wanna be with this partner forever, and am I the same person I was four years ago? And I think for anyone listening, I love a breakup. They're scary, but they're empowering and I'm excited to see where you both go from here. And I just have to say of a lot of the guys
Starting point is 00:09:37 that do reality TV, he's definitely one of the better ones that's crossed my path. No, he's definitely the best boyfriend I've ever had. I can truly say that. He was a great boyfriend and he did everything correct and he never made me feel insecure or anything like that. And so it almost is harder when no one's done anything to be mad about and that's hard.
Starting point is 00:10:04 I have a lot of empathy for people who are on reality TV and dating. There's a reason why a lot of housewives are not in healthy relationships. And it's not for the weak. No, it's not for the weak and it's not even, I think maybe like why I was so nervous to say it is because I try and like live my life and be like, I don't care what people think
Starting point is 00:10:32 about me. And that's just not true. I care a freaking lot. So like, don't get down on yourself when you're like, when people are like, oh, you care too much what people think like, okay, sorry. Like yeah, it's human nature. I want people to like feel good around me and like me and all of this. So I think like also saying it publicly, I'm like, I feel mean, like I feel like a bad
Starting point is 00:10:59 person like, because I know there's so many people that are like, how are you two not getting engaged? And how like, how I know there's so many people that are like, how are you two not getting engaged? And like, how is this whatever? It's just like a tough thing and it's a tough world to like be in and I wanna feel like I'm being vulnerable and authentic specifically to the gigglers, but I also want to be like classy about it and like say everything in the correct way
Starting point is 00:11:23 because I don't want things to be misconstrued of like that we hate each other or that like something happened or whatever. It's really just like two people growing and changing and like things that they want in their lives changing and like I feel like I've been very vocal on the pod about how I hated turning 30 like everyone around that had turned 30 was like, you're being dramatic, it's the same thing as 29. And I really had like a problem with it.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Probably because I'm like so vain and narcissistic, but whatever. I like just didn't like getting older. I love being 32. I've never felt more myself than in this past year. Like Giggly Squad tour. Like even though Giggly Squad tour, I had like my first panic attack ever
Starting point is 00:12:12 and that was the craziest time of my life. I'm so like thankful for it because like the connection I feel like I formed with the Gigglers became even deeper. And I just felt like so myself this year I loved throwing myself into work like I loved doing everything I was doing and it was stressful and it was hard but like I Just felt very me and it's so funny cuz four years ago if I told you what we did these last six months and what we Created and what you push yourself through. I don't think you would have believed me
Starting point is 00:12:45 No, I would run like I'm staying in bed. That sounds like a lot. And also I think one of the things that I get the most insecure about is I am 32. And so a lot of times the rhetoric online and directed at me is, you're 32. Shouldn't you pack it in and get married? And like, you're not a kid anymore.
Starting point is 00:13:07 And while I fully acknowledge I'm not a child, you also don't have to use the phrase pack it in when you're talking about the rest of your life as a woman. Let's stop with the word geriatric I've been seeing on WebMD. Yeah, like, so if you're mad that I'm not mature enough to like get married and... It's not maturity!
Starting point is 00:13:28 It's not maturity. Then you, yeah, then you don't get me at all. Like, you can be 32 and decide to change the entire course of your life. You don't have to get married and have a baby because you think you have to. Like, you, just because you're in your 30s does not mean you're running out of time. You can choose to do whatever you want. There were timelines back then, and back then was very different.
Starting point is 00:13:52 Women were not allowed to get a credit card until 1975. Of course, the only thing, their only accomplishment that they were told to do was have a baby with the husband they met at 18, who took their virginity and they didn't know what any other dick felt like, so they were stuck with that one dick. Not to go on a rampage right now.
Starting point is 00:14:13 To make it sexual. It does annoy me when people put timelines on people, and I do have to say, reality TV producers put timelines on you, because they're kind of like, what's your story? This season can't be the same as last season. What's the new story? And sometimes relationships aren't like that.
Starting point is 00:14:31 And obviously, I don't control what happens on our shows or what they show, what they don't show, what storylines are. Like, I'm just living my life and they're painting a picture around it. So I get that people are like, oh, it was always was she wasn't she moving? But like that was my life. Sorry. Like I couldn't like move forward for you. We both did not anticipate like
Starting point is 00:14:56 the amount of passion we'd have for Giggly Squad and like you're the stuff you have based in New York. No, Giggly Squad is my whole life. We didn't. No, Giggly Squad's my whole life. We didn't anticipate it. Giggly Squad is my whole life. It's truly the only thing I care about. Like I love Daphne, but I love Giggly Squad. And she's part of Giggly Squad.
Starting point is 00:15:16 So it's a Venn diagram. Yes. Can I say something controversial? Truly is. You keep bringing up the beta blocker episode. I was told by a therapist who I've since fired, no I'm just kidding, I was like saying that. But that anxiety comes from when you feel like you're not being your authentic self,
Starting point is 00:15:37 you're not in alignment with what you should do. And I remember during tour when you started having panic attacks thinking like this isn't because of the gigglers, this isn't because you don't love thinking like this isn't because of the gigglers This isn't because you don't love performing. This isn't because you don't love your outfit There's other stuff going on in your life that you're trying to figure out and you're feeling a little stuck And I think and I I don't think I like saw I like fully you were like I'm nervous about going on stage and i'm like, no, you're not like you never were
Starting point is 00:16:02 Yeah, I just I didn't feel aligned like in myself and i'm like, no you're not. Like you never were. Yeah, I just, I didn't feel aligned like in myself and I'm someone that's very, very in touch with my body. Like perfect example, I know when I have a UTI. I know when I have a yeast infection. Like I've never had a pregnancy scare. Like I fucking know my body. My favorite is when Paige cancels plans cause she feels a UTI coming on.
Starting point is 00:16:23 But that's real. I know when they're coming on. Like I will say, I feel very in tune with like how my body feels. And so like when my body does, and this has happened to me in the past, this isn't like the first time, when my body does kind of like betray me in a moment,
Starting point is 00:16:40 I do know like, oh fuck, I'm ignoring something so big and I'm trying to act like it's not a big deal and like it is. And to listen to your body, like don't take it as like I'm fucked up, take it as ooh, what is this message? It's not just that you're gluten intolerant, it's that your body's, it's giving you that like
Starting point is 00:16:59 fight or flight response and you're like what the fuck, I'm just sitting here about to perform, why am I treating this like a lion's chasing me but I also do think that in your 20s you date because you're like this guy's great I'm into him let's go and then as you approach 30 it becomes like I feel like you guys could have dated for a long time yes well people get so much more serious obviously in their 30s and people, you take it more seriously, but that doesn't mean you're locked in.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Like, I just, I feel like, obviously, the message I want to like send across to this episode is like giving the gigglers like information about my life of like what's going on so they're in the loop, but also if you are in the same situation that I am in right now and you're in your 30s and you're like, but I'm so torn and I don't know what to do
Starting point is 00:17:52 and this is the first time I've never had a plan or the first time I don't know what the next five years is like, that's where you should be at. Like not everyone who's married and has kids feels like they know what the next five years of their life is or know what the plan is. They just may know some of the people that might be around
Starting point is 00:18:11 but they don't also know. Like they're not better than you because they may seem like they have it all together because they're married and have children. Like you are worth just as much as a single 32 year old woman. Like you have thoughts, ideas, and things you wanna do. And you don't have to put them in the back seat
Starting point is 00:18:30 because your eggs might dry up in a little. And then there's the thought of like, on my end as someone who is married, I'm petrified of having kids and it slowing down everything that I've worked so hard to accomplish where like I'm now having momentum and I feel like if I have kids is it going to I'm gonna lose my identity of the person I worked so hard to create so y'all we in this bitch no we're in this we we in this bitch. No, we're in this. We're in this bitch. Never indulge frickin' moment with us. in a new serial killer origin stories. Hunger inside of you, it needs a master.
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Starting point is 00:19:48 is that why people love it is it's very like WWE. I was watching a documentary about WWE and it's funny because they would just like create storylines and they wouldn't know how the audience would react. They just wanted the audience to react and they wanted to make it clear like who the villain was, who the good person is, and you can enjoy Southern Charm, Summer House, whatever,
Starting point is 00:20:10 but just know, like, on Giggly Squad, there's, it's not black and white, there's not a villain, there's not a good, like, this is two people who love each other, and just, like, remember that they, yeah, these are two people who had an amazing experience with each other. And actually, to keep it on the Bravo theme, I remember one of my first ever interviews
Starting point is 00:20:30 was with Margaret Josephs on New Jersey. And she was telling me how she had a husband and then left him for like the contractor. And I was like, do you regret marrying your husband? And she was like, no. And I was like, do you regret marrying your husband? And she was like, no. And I was like, but you fucked a contractor. And she was like, no, because at that time in my life, he was perfect for me and he's exactly what I needed
Starting point is 00:20:54 and I love him to death. And it was kind of this beautiful thing of. Oh my God. We're like taught, like you wake up, you wake up, you come out of your mom's pussy, you wake up and you're searching for Prince Charming, which is everything we talk about decentering on this pod, which is not okay.
Starting point is 00:21:09 And also that you're not just gonna find that one person, there's gonna be different people for different stages of your life. Honestly, and this is me being so truthful, you will not hear me say a bad thing about Craig. I have nothing bad to say about him. He truly let me feel all my feelings, like go through like everything that like would pop into my head and I'm so beyond grateful for that. Like
Starting point is 00:21:32 his family, his friends are like all amazing people. Yeah, I just I stand with the the early 30s single girlies. I love that for you. I also, I feel like me and the single early 30s girls, Giggler's just got exponential. There's something very powerful about her, a girl who's single in her early 30s. So yeah, I don't think the Giggler's were expecting this type of episode,
Starting point is 00:22:00 but here we freaking are, life like comes at you so fast. I think one other thing that I'm really grappling with and if anyone's like going through a breakup or like a change in career or anything, it's not that I love where my life is at. I truly can say that I wake up every morning and I really am like, okay, fuck yeah. I do like I love my life. I think it's more the fact that you have to come to terms with the fact that your life is not what you thought it would be, whether it's better or worse,
Starting point is 00:22:33 it's just not what you thought it would be. I truly do feel like my life is better than what I was imagining when I was 16 years old, like, oh yeah, by 32, are you kidding? I'll have two kids. It's not that, and that would have been amazing too. It's better, but getting over the fact that it's not what you made up in your head
Starting point is 00:22:53 is like kind of a thing. You're not the person you were when you were seven years old and you were just taught from society what your life should be. I mean, I didn't think I'd be 33 married and like not in the mood for children. Like, have you ever seen a 33 year old in a movie when in the 90s, they literally are like grandmas.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Yeah, like there was no thought in my mind that I would be like, no, I wanna like work. Like if you told 16 year old Paige, like no, you're gonna be like, I wanna like work no, I wanna work. If you told 16 year old Paige, no, you're gonna be like, I wanna work on my career. I'd be like, fuck that bitch, pack it in, take a nap. But that just, I grew up to not be like that and I did not see that coming.
Starting point is 00:23:37 What's that quote that whenever you make a plan, God laughs at it? I think if we're gonna go back to something that's very giggly coated, this reminds me of the concept of karma. And me and you always talk about this. When someone wrongs you, you can try to be like,
Starting point is 00:23:53 oh, I'm gonna get revenge, or this is what I'm gonna do. Natural karmic cycle that's gonna happen by you stepping back and focusing on yourself. The universe is so much more creative than anything you could come up with. You just put good energy into the world and watch it come back
Starting point is 00:24:09 and that's how I feel with your plans. We both put it out there that we wanna express ourself, we wanna make people laugh, we wanna be kind, we want to be creative and that's how Giggly Squad happened and when things don't match up with that, that's okay, cause plans are a And when things don't match up with that, that's okay, because plans are a fucking social construct
Starting point is 00:24:28 in your own little teenager head. I've been sending you a lot of inspirational quotes. You've been sending me a lot of inspirational quotes. Now that we're getting into like our mental health moments, it's that the universe will keep sending you the same thing to see if you learned your lesson yet, and universe will keep sending you the same thing to see if you learned your lesson yet, and it'll keep giving you the same result. And then once you can get the balls to evolve and change
Starting point is 00:24:52 and do the hard thing, then good things will happen. Because if everyone could do the hard thing, then everything would be easy. But it's not. The hard thing is hard, and you did something really difficult, and it's not. The hard thing is hard and you did something really difficult and it was confusing. Yeah, and I think like one of like, which I'm like almost mad about myself was like saying it publicly because I was just like, oh my God, what are like people going to like make like construe of this and like,
Starting point is 00:25:19 no, so like I don't know whether to like laugh or cry or like, and obviously like there are days where I'm just like, what am I doing? Like, who am I? What do I want? Where am I going? Like, and it's confusing and it's hard. And I feel like people are just walking around acting. Like their thirties are so easy.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Like here's a perfect example on how you and I are very different. I feel like you're very vocal about how your 20s, you were like, I'm flailing. I have no idea what the fuck's going on. Like you hated your 20s. I loved my 20s. Could not have been more in my vibe in my 20s.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Had a job I didn't really give a fuck about. Had so many fun friends. All I did was party. All I did was go out and go on dates. Like I didn't really give a fuck about, had so many fun friends, all I did was party, all I did was go out and go on dates. I didn't live at college, I lived at home for college, so when I moved to New York, I really felt like I was finding myself. I loved my 20s.
Starting point is 00:26:16 My 30s have been a little bit more difficult than I had planned. Well, because you have to start taking responsibility for some shit. How dare you? In my breakup episode? During my breakup episode, sorry. That was so out of pocket.
Starting point is 00:26:34 I'm so sorry. You're gonna come at me during my freaking breakup episode? No, that was so fucked up. I'm sorry. I need to apologize to the camera. No, but. I'm so fucked up. No, but no no no you actually made a good point because things like in my 20s that I would be like insecure about I feel
Starting point is 00:26:53 like I've really in my 30s had to be like it's enough like and enough with being like insecure about that like deal with that like and move on and one of the things in my 20s was like, oh my God, what if I didn't have a boyfriend? And like, what if no one wanted to marry me? And like then I loved having a boyfriend in my 20s. Yeah, and so like, and now in my 30s, I'm like, why are you so fucking insecure about that?
Starting point is 00:27:18 Well, you've been meeting with energy healers. You have. I was just gonna say, the girlies that are going through breakups, I've been doing the stuff. I've been putting in the time. I've been seeing my energy healers. I've seen two psychics.
Starting point is 00:27:33 I'm obsessed with that. I'm like, do I start Reiki? You're about to get a degree from Harvard. You're gonna start, you're doing Pilates again every day. I mean, you already have bangs. That should have been a sign. I actually, I did start working. I did start working out again because I was like, I need some like natural dope.
Starting point is 00:27:48 I always say that breakups are like when you get fired from a job, which you know is my favorite hobby, because whenever you leave something, you level up. Like if you're a corporate girly, the way you get a big raise is by leaving that job for the next job and then you just keep growing. And I do think there's this crazy time in your 20s girly, the way you get a big raise is by leaving that job for the next job and then you just keep growing.
Starting point is 00:28:06 And I do think there's this crazy time in your 20s where first you're just like, oh, boyfriends are fun, what can I get? Who can I see? Who can I be with? And then when you realize that the wrong person is actually like so much worse than you being single, then you start having this mentality of like,
Starting point is 00:28:23 okay, I love me, I don't like me with the wrong person, and I love me with the right person. And that's when you start being smart. I traumatized myself in my 20s. I traumatized myself. If anyone knew me in my 20s or knew any of the guys that I dated in my 20s, then you know that I traumatized myself.
Starting point is 00:28:45 And so I think like when I got out of my previous relationship and I was single and I met Craig, like I was like, I finally figured it out. Like I'm gonna be with someone that like loves the fuck out of me and I'm gonna like, it's good. This is all like happening the way it's supposed to be. And I don't think I realized that I didn't give myself time to get over those men in my 20s and be alone.
Starting point is 00:29:10 You wanted Craig to heal those and that's not his job. Yeah, I think I looked to him to heal certain things on why I dated, who I dated. Yes, there are some girls that just pop out of the womb and they're confident. I was not one of them. Like maybe in my teens I was confident because I didn't know any better. Maybe as a two month old when my skin was perfect.
Starting point is 00:29:37 When I peaked at four years old on the Easy Bake Oven, yeah, that was my freaking time. I was at my goal weight of 72 pounds. But like no, I think I was, I probably got my most insecure when I was like 19 or 20. I dated like a really physically and mentally abusive man and it changed my whole course of like dating in my 20s. And so then I looked for like chaos and I looked for like pure just like adrenaline and emotion and I was like This is so fun and this is so crazy and like so I would get out of one bad relationship and get into like a slightly Better one but like by standards very bad and I just like filled this pattern until I was like 26 Thought I was dating someone that like,
Starting point is 00:30:25 okay, this is like normal. And I was like, no, this is not, like I can't do this either. And so it's hard to not look at yourself as a girl and be like, maybe I am the problem. Maybe it is me. And in part, like, yes, it was definitely like people I would pick in the past.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Like I put myself in a lot of situations, but also at a lot of times it wasn't my fault. Like it truly wasn't. Like I was just vibing and people were fucked up. So like it wasn't my fault. And so to be in my early 30s and like be like, hey bitch, you're fine. Like I'm thankful for. Like I don't regret any of my relationships because I would have never learned certain things about myself. I don't even know of my relationships because I would have never learned certain things about myself. I don't even know if I've ever even said that on the pod
Starting point is 00:31:09 that I was in an abusive relationship before, but I feel like if I'm gonna say it, this is the episode I would say it because I know for a fact a ton of other girls have been in them too. Now crying again. Don't cry. It was definitely a very weird time of my life.
Starting point is 00:31:27 It was, I was 19, I was 20 years old. I couldn't even legally drink. And it really did change a lot of like how I looked at relationships. I'd never been exposed to that ever. I never thought that that could be me. I never, like I would hear people say like, oh, you get like brainwashed.
Starting point is 00:31:42 And I'm like, there's just no way. And I was fully brainwashed. Like I'm like, there's just no way. And I was fully brainwashed. Like I didn't even, until I got out of that, like I didn't even know that person. And obviously I don't think about that now because it was like over 10 years ago. But that was one of your first relationships. Yeah, and so it definitely changed a lot of like
Starting point is 00:32:01 how I dated and I'm not like ashamed, I used to be very ashamed of it. I would never tell anyone. And I'm not ashamed of it at all because I'm really proud of myself on how I handled it and how I handled it afterward. And I'm proud of myself on talking about it and letting girls know it can literally happen to anyone. I feel like a lot of gigglers see me as very confident,
Starting point is 00:32:28 and it's like, but it also happened to me. That doesn't make you not confident. No, but guys like that go for confident women. They try to find confident women that they can bring down a manipulator, groom, and it was never your fault. If anything, you were shining so bright, he wanted to dim your light.
Starting point is 00:32:47 And sometimes a relationship like that, you don't know but you're coping with it by trying to convince yourself that like, you can handle that or that it didn't. Like I'm not a therapist, I don't know the extent of it but it's like, I know that I was going for guys who were not emotionally available because I wasn't emotionally available because I didn't want to get hurt because I wanted to protect myself and
Starting point is 00:33:10 long story short is like thank you for being so vulnerable and open because you don't have to give us any of this information. No but you know what I do it's not that I feel like I have to give it to the gigglers but like here's one thing about me, I am loyal and protective, and I'll be damned if I was gonna see online people coming at the gigglers and being like, you don't know what's going on with Paige, and the gigglers being like, yeah, we do. Yes, the gigglers will always fucking know first
Starting point is 00:33:37 what's going on with me. If they've been listening, they know that it's been this thing of you being busy and your career and what you're trying to prioritize. And also, yeah, you joked a lot about him, but it shows how nice of a guy Craig is that he loves when you make fun of him. He loves the banter, and that was part of the fun of your relationship.
Starting point is 00:34:02 He loved you poking fun at him and stuff. People also don't factor in, yeah, the third lens that's in the relationship, which is the public eye. Wait, there was a new giggler that DM'd me, and he's like, hey, I'm a new giggler, I'm a guy, but I'm gay, where do I stand in this? And I'm like, oh my god, you missed the episode, you're a giggler.
Starting point is 00:34:24 You're actually very important in the giggler. You're actually really high up on the hierarchy Yeah, so we need you we need you in these streets. How do you feel? I feel I feel like the last piece of the puzzle was like Saying it out loud Like I haven't said it to literally anyone like nobody knows knows this. Like my family and like my very, very close friends know this, but nobody else. And so I think like the last part for me was like saying it to the gigglers and like seeing what would come out
Starting point is 00:34:55 of my mouth when I said it to the gigglers because I was like, this is something I can't like, I'm not like rehearsing what I'm gonna say, but also like I wanna be thoughtful and organic. Yeah, and it's not gonna be cut up for a three minute scene. Right, and so I'm thankful for the gigglers for knowing me and knowing me at my core
Starting point is 00:35:16 and giving me the space to be able to say how I truly feel without feeling so judged. Even though I know there's a lot of non-gigglers probably listening to this right now, which, happy to have you, thank you for the engagement. Also, you may be a giggler if you like to make fun of yourself. Stay, swipe up.
Starting point is 00:35:33 New merch just dropped. Our book comes out available for pre-order. Which we actually do get into a lot more deeper stuff in the book, but I do think with you this is important for the Gigglers because Anything moving forward that you speak on like they have to know what you've been through and they have to know every single part of the journey so that we all can understand each other and I do think like Paige of four years ago wouldn't have done this
Starting point is 00:36:04 No, here's another thing for the gigglers. Yeah. Every time I do something in my life, thinking back, like, would 25 year old Paige even believe this? No, she would have ran away so fucking quick or she would have just like been gone with the flow. She was such a go with the flow girl. And so like there is a sense of like, I'm really proud of myself for like being like, how do you feel?
Starting point is 00:36:26 Okay, that's how you feel. What do you wanna do about it? Okay, that's what you wanna do. Like then we're gonna do it. And then like doing it, seeing it through, and then being like, and you came out the other side and like, you are fine. Like every crazy scenario you made up in your head,
Starting point is 00:36:41 whether it happened or it didn't, like you're fine. And I think that's like, if any giggler needs to hear that, you are fine, you're going to be fine, he's going to be fine. Why am I crying the entire episode? No, you cried this whole pod. Also, this could be totally off, and this might not pertain to you,
Starting point is 00:37:03 but could pertain to other people, but I was thinking about when you're in a relationship where someone treats you horribly and does not respect you, the way to cope is to not respect yourself. Yeah, I wasn't in that. I still loved myself. I wasn't in that, but yes.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Then when you get treated badly in the future, you're just like, well, I don't care, because it's fine, it's not a big deal. You're not hurting me. This has to do with friendships. If you're in a place right now that you're not happy, you do not have to stay in it. And you're not selfish, you're not being a bitch.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Because like next week, you could be in a different room with all different people and having a completely different experience than you were this week. That was your biggest fear. You've always been so afraid of change. Yeah, I've always been really afraid of change. My last boyfriend when we broke up, I was like,
Starting point is 00:37:54 I'm so happy I can laugh about it now. I was like so terrified that none of my friends would stay friends with me. Like I felt like they were gonna be so mad at me that I was like breaking up with this guy and that I wasn't ever gonna be able to go out anymore, I wasn't gonna be invited any place, and I definitely lost some friends.
Starting point is 00:38:12 I had some friends truly do that, and it was not as bad as I thought it was going to be. I think that was the biggest takeaway. People who would leave that easy. Right, I was like, oh, you don't fuck with me anymore? Great, I've been not fucking with you. Any scenario that you've created in your head that you're like, that's gonna be the worst,
Starting point is 00:38:30 even if it plays out, it's not as bad as you thought it was gonna be in your head. Oh my God. Thank God I have a kitty, again. Thank God I got a fucking cat. I'm... Because her just purring on my chest, I'm like, the world's okay.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Life is worth a living. I do have to say, if you guys are having a rough time, go to your local adoption shelter, find the cutest fucking kitten in there, take it, and pretty much 98% of your problems will be solved. And that's just science. Truly. That's just science.
Starting point is 00:39:03 We didn't plan this by the way, cause we don't do admin. I thought you were gonna come on, say kind of a simple statement. Me too. Yeah, okay. Cause that was the point. Me too.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Yeah, this took a turn. I thought I was gonna say like a quick hit. And then we were gonna resume the episode like normal. But I just couldn't, I couldn't go into like, Blake Lively, Justin Baldoni, what's going on? What's going on? Like I really, I don't actually have the mental capacity to read any of those articles, watch any of the videos,
Starting point is 00:39:36 because I'm dealing with my own trauma right now. But truly, I did not expect, I certainly didn't expect to tell everyone about my 19 year old boyfriend, but it feels right. Like it felt, this episode felt organic. And if we learned anything from this episode, if you enjoy Giggly Squad because you enjoy the comedy, you now realize it's because both of us
Starting point is 00:39:58 have dark, dark demons. And. No, it's not great over here. We're only sarcastic because we've had major trauma that we will not unpack. We refuse. And it's for the good of the gigglers because we would not be this funny. This was us unpacking our trauma is Paige venting to me on a pod and me going, you're so right.
Starting point is 00:40:18 You're literally so right. Now let's go back to being stupid. Sorry that this is like right before New Year's Eve. I didn't want to ruin your, I didn't want to ruin everyone's Christmas, but like I will ruin your New Year's Eve. Imagine someone goes, I can't, cause Greg and Paige, I don't believe in love anymore.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Also guys, stop with that. I can't with the like, I don't believe in love anymore when a relationship fell apart that like, you don't know anything about. They were very good looking together. We all can acknowledge that and let's not project that onto them. I think this is a cool ending.
Starting point is 00:40:54 That was cool. Thank you so much for going through this journey with me and letting me be able to like freely speak and not worry about like how it's gonna be edited, how it's gonna be cut up, what people are gonna say about it, what like who did what, like all the speculation. Thank you for giving me this platform of like all of these amazing gigglers to it's truly therapeutic for me to like say how I feel and what I'm going through and know that there's girls out there that like
Starting point is 00:41:19 whether they take like a minute of this to like relate to or a second of it like I'm thankful for it and just thank you and I love you all. We love you guys so much thank you for giggling, for crying, for everything. Enjoy time with your family or don't or don't. It's not okay to cry on the internet. It is okay to cry on your own podcast. And that's just science. Bye guys. I used to say, I just feel stuck, stuck where I don't want to be. Stuck trying to get to where I really need to be. But then I discovered lifelong learning. Learning that gave me the skills to move up, move beyond, gain that edge, drive my curiosity, prepare me for what is inevitably next. The University of Toronto School of Continuing Studies. Lifelong learning to stay forever unstuck.

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