Giggly Squad - Giggling about updates, crying, and stuff
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I used to say I just feel stuck, but then I discovered lifelong learning.
It gave me the skills to move up, gain an edge, and prepare for what's next.
The University of Toronto School of Continuing Studies.
Lifelong learning to stay forever unstuck. What's up, gigglers? Gary, fix the wifi. Manifest that shit. We can't be managed.
I mean, the day just got away from me.
What's up, growing and learning gigglers?
We're growing and realizing things every day.
I was trying to sound like Courtney.
We're growing, okay.
Long story short, we're gonna start with some housekeeping up top.
We're both very nervous this episode.
We have Radio City, I think there's a couple tickets left,
but then we added Nashville, New Orleans,
St. Augustine, Florida, where we have no idea
where that is, Hollywood, Florida.
I've never been to New Orleans.
I'm actually so excited to eat a beignet.
Oh my God, that's honestly the chicest food I've ever heard.
I feel like beignet is the name of your next cat.
Oh, yes!
Can you spell beignet?
I don't think it's important to be able to
because the cat can't.
You go, I don't think anyone can spell beignet.
I don't think that's a thing that people spell.
They just say it.
So then we have Portland, Vegas Salt Lake City check it out
Okay, this is gonna be a unique episode of giggly squad
I mean not really yes and no because I here's what else first and foremost say anything that's happening in my life
First I tell Hannah
First I tell my mom then I tell Hannah and then I tell the gigglers
First I tell my mom, then I tell Hannah, and then I tell the gigglers.
So if something in the universe is going on
and I haven't said it to the gigglers first,
then it's not true.
And you've said things to me before that aren't true.
That I've lied to you multiple times.
What is reality?
And so I was trying to think about
how I was gonna say this,
and one of the things that popped in my head was
our beta blocker episode was probably one of
the most nervous I've been to do an episode
and say just something I've never talked about before
in real time of how I felt a couple days prior to that
and I think it was like our biggest response episode because there were just
so many gigglers were like wow like this was like on another level like we get
each other we've truly formed a cult. This pod was made off of making fun of
each other and most importantly ourselves but in that as you're making
fun of yourself you start
being like holy shit I'm seeing some real shit and we talk about it and we go in and out all the time
but look the gigglers are our best friends yeah and it's kind of crazy like we've been doing this
podcast now for five years it does not feel like that at all because we're only 26 because literally
I'm 27 like when COVID started
so obviously I want to tell the gigglers first and I and I feel like the most
comfortable with the gigglers and I know that like people are gonna like take
these clips and it's gonna be not a lot of non gigglers like chatting this is
all just you announcing you have another UTI and the gigglers are like, we're tired, we're tired Paige.
So I know this is gonna be a little dramatic episode
and we didn't have a plan.
We didn't have a plan and I told her my plan
was to let her talk.
And my plan was to let Hannah talk.
Never gonna.
We got on the pod and we've realized that we have no plan.
This episode is pre-recorded, so we'll say that
in case anything happens in the news
that we're not touching on
because it's all about me right now.
What I did want to say was that Craig and I
have decided to no longer be together.
And I know I said I would never cry on the internet,
but it's okay if I cry on the
pod. I feel like that's okay. It's weird, obviously it's weird. Like it's very weird. I wasn't
expecting this obviously when we first started dating. Like you don't think like oh what's
gonna happen? Like will we get married? Will we not? You just kind of like are in this relationship
not you just kind of like are in this relationship. And as you get older, I mean, I started dating Craig and I was 29. And I'm 32 now and your 30s for women I feel like really are very
transformative and you change a lot and you grow a lot. And him as well. Not to sound
traditional and old fashioned, but like this is not a situation where I have a 50-part series
of who the fuck was I dating?
Could not be more opposite of that.
I have so much love and respect for Craig.
I think he is one of the best people
I've ever met in my entire life.
I will remain the biggest fan of him
and want the best for him,
and he truly will get the best
because he is the best. But with that said I think it was just the right
decision for both of us like moving forward in our lives and like the
direction that our lives are are going in that we like didn't foresee or like
whatever. It's a very sad thing and And just to say this, not that I even have to,
but in terms of people saying rumors like,
oh, Paige was told to wait until Southern Charm came out
or Summerhouse came out, no one can tell me what to do.
The network has power, but they don't have that much power.
So that was not a real thing.
Like rumors of us breaking up months ago,
again, also not a real thing.
I feel like when we started dating,
our first rumor was like we were in a PR relationship.
So like we've been with these rumors,
our whole relationship.
So we didn't really give it a second thought,
but I didn't want the gigglers to think like,
oh, I was like leaving them out of the loop or something. Like not at all. Like any time those rumors
were happening, we were still together. When we did break up, like obviously I didn't run
to social media and I didn't run to the pod. Like we both gave each other like a little
time to deal with it on our own in private like with our family and friends and now I feel like it is appropriate to like be able to tell
people and so obviously I would come to the gigglers first I'm not like throwing
up an adjoin Instagram post you know that's not how I'm gonna handle it but I
love him I think he loves me.
I think we will remain friends.
No one did anything.
It wasn't like a bad thing.
I think we both were just being really mature
and saying what we want and what we didn't want.
And I think that's like extremely powerful
to be able to voice like how you're feeling in real time
and what you want for your future.
Wow.
Wow.
You're so fucking strong for being in a public relationship
and putting yourself out there.
And you guys, you both fought really hard for this
and wanting to make it work.
And I do have to say, shout out to Craig, because reality TV dating is really hard for this and wanting to make it work. And I do have to say, shout out to Craig,
because reality TV dating is really hard.
And I remember when you found him,
he was the first guy who really like lifted you up
and was so-
Who like got you.
He was so proud of you for what you were accomplishing,
like on TV and off TV.
And you hadn't had a guy that support you like that.
He's a huge reason for who you are in the last couple years
becoming who you are.
Oh my God, thank you for saying that
because I would have not even been able to say that
to the gigglers.
He truly helped me grow so much in these past three years.
I am a different person
than when I started dating him. I truly do feel more mature, more
confident, all of these things and that's definitely a tribute to him.
It's just so weird to talk about it. It's just so weird. It's also weird
because we forget people listen to the pod and I think why we're nervous is we
know more people
will like listen in to get the tea.
Yeah, no, that's what it is.
We know that it's non-gigglers listening
and we're like, ah!
Yes, because I'm like beta blocker episode.
Like once I got into the story, I was like, girls, listen up.
This is like, I feel awkward because I don't want to say
anything that can be like taken and misconstrued about him
or about the breakup
or any of it.
To make this about me.
Yeah, please.
What was hardest about it for me.
No, what was hardest about this relationship
was that there wasn't a smoking gun.
And I think the positive for anyone
who's listening right now is that relationships
don't just end because there was a murder-suicide.
Like relationships don't just end because there was a murder-suicide. Like relationships don't just end
because there's a sand of all,
or like something, or he's, you know,
doing fucked up things.
The hardest relationship I think to get out of
is sometimes when you're like, I love this person,
do I wanna be with this partner forever,
and am I the same person I was four years ago?
And I think for anyone listening, I love a breakup.
They're scary, but they're empowering
and I'm excited to see where you both go from here.
And I just have to say of a lot of the guys
that do reality TV, he's definitely one of the better ones
that's crossed my path.
No, he's definitely the best boyfriend I've ever had.
I can truly say that.
He was a great boyfriend and he did everything correct
and he never made me feel insecure or anything like that.
And so it almost is harder when no one's done anything
to be mad about and that's hard.
I have a lot of empathy for people
who are on reality TV and dating.
There's a reason why a lot of housewives
are not in healthy relationships.
And it's not for the weak.
No, it's not for the weak and it's not even,
I think maybe like why I was so nervous to say
it is because I try and like live my life and be like, I don't care what people think
about me.
And that's just not true.
I care a freaking lot.
So like, don't get down on yourself when you're like, when people are like, oh, you care too
much what people think like, okay, sorry.
Like yeah, it's human nature.
I want people to like feel good around me and like me and all of this.
So I think like also saying it publicly, I'm like, I feel mean, like I feel like a bad
person like, because I know there's so many people that are like, how are you two not
getting engaged? And how like, how I know there's so many people that are like, how are you two not getting engaged?
And like, how is this whatever?
It's just like a tough thing and it's a tough world
to like be in and I wanna feel like I'm being vulnerable
and authentic specifically to the gigglers,
but I also want to be like classy about it
and like say everything in the correct way
because I don't want things to be misconstrued of like that we
hate each other or that like something happened or whatever.
It's really just like two people growing and changing and like
things that they want in their lives changing and like I feel
like I've been very vocal on the pod about how I hated turning
30 like everyone around that had turned 30 was like,
you're being dramatic, it's the same thing as 29.
And I really had like a problem with it.
Probably because I'm like so vain and narcissistic,
but whatever.
I like just didn't like getting older.
I love being 32.
I've never felt more myself than in this past year.
Like Giggly Squad tour.
Like even though Giggly Squad tour,
I had like my first panic attack ever
and that was the craziest time of my life.
I'm so like thankful for it because like the connection
I feel like I formed with the Gigglers became even deeper.
And I just felt like so myself this year
I loved throwing myself into work
like I loved doing everything I was doing and it was stressful and it was hard but like I
Just felt very me and it's so funny cuz four years ago if I told you what we did these last six months and what we
Created and what you push yourself through. I don't think you would have believed me
No, I would run like I'm staying in bed.
That sounds like a lot.
And also I think one of the things that I get
the most insecure about is I am 32.
And so a lot of times the rhetoric online
and directed at me is, you're 32.
Shouldn't you pack it in and get married?
And like, you're not a kid anymore.
And while I fully acknowledge I'm not a child,
you also don't have to use the phrase pack it in
when you're talking about the rest of your life as a woman.
Let's stop with the word geriatric
I've been seeing on WebMD.
Yeah, like, so if you're mad that I'm not mature enough
to like get married and...
It's not maturity!
It's not maturity.
Then you, yeah, then you don't get me at all.
Like, you can be 32 and decide to change the entire course of your life.
You don't have to get married and have a baby because you think you have to.
Like, you, just because you're in your 30s does not mean you're running out of time.
You can choose to do whatever you want.
There were timelines back then,
and back then was very different.
Women were not allowed to get a credit card until 1975.
Of course, the only thing,
their only accomplishment that they were told to do
was have a baby with the husband they met at 18,
who took their virginity and they didn't know
what any other dick felt like,
so they were stuck with that one dick.
Not to go on a rampage right now.
To make it sexual.
It does annoy me when people put timelines on people,
and I do have to say, reality TV producers
put timelines on you,
because they're kind of like, what's your story?
This season can't be the same as last season.
What's the new story?
And sometimes relationships aren't like that.
And obviously, I don't control what happens on our shows
or what they show, what they don't show,
what storylines are.
Like, I'm just living my life and they're painting a picture around it.
So I get that people are like, oh, it was always was she wasn't she moving?
But like that was my life. Sorry.
Like I couldn't like move forward for you.
We both did not anticipate like
the amount of passion we'd have for Giggly Squad and like
you're the stuff you have based in New York.
No, Giggly Squad is my whole life. We didn't. No, Giggly Squad's my whole life.
We didn't anticipate it.
Giggly Squad is my whole life.
It's truly the only thing I care about.
Like I love Daphne, but I love Giggly Squad.
And she's part of Giggly Squad.
So it's a Venn diagram.
Yes.
Can I say something controversial?
Truly is.
You keep bringing up the beta blocker episode.
I was told by a therapist who I've since fired, no I'm just kidding, I was like saying that.
But that anxiety comes from when you feel
like you're not being your authentic self,
you're not in alignment with what you should do.
And I remember during tour when you started
having panic attacks thinking like this isn't
because of the gigglers, this isn't because you don't love thinking like this isn't because of the gigglers
This isn't because you don't love performing. This isn't because you don't love your outfit
There's other stuff going on in your life that you're trying to figure out and you're feeling a little stuck
And I think and I I don't think I like saw I like fully you were like
I'm nervous about going on stage and i'm like, no, you're not like you never were
Yeah, I just I didn't feel aligned like in myself and i'm like, no you're not. Like you never were. Yeah, I just, I didn't feel aligned like in myself
and I'm someone that's very, very in touch with my body.
Like perfect example, I know when I have a UTI.
I know when I have a yeast infection.
Like I've never had a pregnancy scare.
Like I fucking know my body.
My favorite is when Paige cancels plans
cause she feels a UTI coming on.
But that's real.
I know when they're coming on.
Like I will say, I feel very in tune
with like how my body feels.
And so like when my body does,
and this has happened to me in the past,
this isn't like the first time,
when my body does kind of like betray me in a moment,
I do know like, oh fuck,
I'm ignoring something so big
and I'm trying to act like it's not a big deal
and like it is.
And to listen to your body, like don't take it as
like I'm fucked up, take it as ooh, what is this message?
It's not just that you're gluten intolerant,
it's that your body's, it's giving you that like
fight or flight response and you're like what the fuck,
I'm just sitting here about to perform,
why am I treating this like a lion's chasing me but I also do think
that in your 20s you date because you're like this guy's great I'm into him let's
go and then as you approach 30 it becomes like I feel like you guys could
have dated for a long time yes well people get so much more serious
obviously in their 30s and people, you take it more seriously,
but that doesn't mean you're locked in.
Like, I just, I feel like, obviously,
the message I want to like send across to this episode
is like giving the gigglers like information about my life
of like what's going on so they're in the loop,
but also if you are in the same situation
that I am in right now and you're in your 30s
and you're like, but I'm so torn
and I don't know what to do
and this is the first time I've never had a plan
or the first time I don't know
what the next five years is like,
that's where you should be at.
Like not everyone who's married and has kids
feels like they know what the next five years
of their life is or know what the plan is.
They just may know some of the people that might be around
but they don't also know.
Like they're not better than you
because they may seem like they have it all together
because they're married and have children.
Like you are worth just as much
as a single 32 year old woman.
Like you have thoughts, ideas, and things you wanna do.
And you don't have to put them in the back seat
because your eggs might dry up in a little.
And then there's the thought of like,
on my end as someone who is married,
I'm petrified of having kids and it slowing down everything that I've worked
so hard to accomplish where like I'm now having momentum and I feel like if I have
kids is it going to I'm gonna lose my identity of the person I worked so hard
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And I do have to say one other thing about reality TV
is that why people love it is it's very like WWE.
I was watching a documentary about WWE
and it's funny because they would just like
create storylines and they wouldn't know
how the audience would react.
They just wanted the audience to react
and they wanted to make it clear like who the villain was, who the good person is,
and you can enjoy Southern Charm, Summer House, whatever,
but just know, like, on Giggly Squad,
there's, it's not black and white, there's not a villain,
there's not a good, like, this is two people
who love each other, and just, like, remember that they,
yeah, these are two people who had an amazing experience
with each other.
And actually, to keep it on the Bravo theme,
I remember one of my first ever interviews
was with Margaret Josephs on New Jersey.
And she was telling me how she had a husband
and then left him for like the contractor.
And I was like, do you regret marrying your husband? And she was like, no. And I was like, do you regret marrying your husband?
And she was like, no.
And I was like, but you fucked a contractor.
And she was like, no, because at that time in my life,
he was perfect for me and he's exactly what I needed
and I love him to death.
And it was kind of this beautiful thing of.
Oh my God.
We're like taught, like you wake up, you wake up,
you come out of your mom's pussy, you wake up
and you're searching for Prince Charming,
which is everything we talk about decentering on this pod,
which is not okay.
And also that you're not just gonna find that one person,
there's gonna be different people
for different stages of your life.
Honestly, and this is me being so truthful,
you will not hear me say a bad thing about Craig.
I have nothing bad to say about him.
He truly let me feel all my feelings, like go through like
everything that like would pop into my head and I'm so beyond grateful for that. Like
his family, his friends are like all amazing people. Yeah, I just I stand with the the
early 30s single girlies. I love that for you. I also,
I feel like me and the single early 30s girls,
Giggler's just got exponential.
There's something very powerful about her,
a girl who's single in her early 30s.
So yeah, I don't think the Giggler's
were expecting this type of episode,
but here we freaking are,
life like comes at you so fast. I think one other thing
that I'm really grappling with and if anyone's like going through a breakup or
like a change in career or anything, it's not that I love where my life is at.
I truly can say that I wake up every morning and I really am like,
okay, fuck yeah. I do like I love my life. I think it's more the fact that you have to come to terms
with the fact that your life is not what you thought
it would be, whether it's better or worse,
it's just not what you thought it would be.
I truly do feel like my life is better
than what I was imagining when I was 16 years old,
like, oh yeah, by 32, are you kidding?
I'll have two kids.
It's not that, and that would have been amazing too.
It's better, but getting over the fact
that it's not what you made up in your head
is like kind of a thing.
You're not the person you were when you were seven years old
and you were just taught from society
what your life should be.
I mean, I didn't think I'd be 33 married
and like not in the mood for children.
Like, have you ever seen a 33 year old in a movie
when in the 90s, they literally are like grandmas.
Yeah, like there was no thought in my mind
that I would be like, no, I wanna like work.
Like if you told 16 year old Paige,
like no, you're gonna be like, I wanna like work no, I wanna work. If you told 16 year old Paige, no, you're gonna be like,
I wanna work on my career.
I'd be like, fuck that bitch, pack it in, take a nap.
But that just, I grew up to not be like that
and I did not see that coming.
What's that quote that whenever you make a plan,
God laughs at it?
I think if we're gonna go back to something
that's very giggly coated,
this reminds me of the concept of karma.
And me and you always talk about this.
When someone wrongs you,
you can try to be like,
oh, I'm gonna get revenge,
or this is what I'm gonna do.
Natural karmic cycle that's gonna happen
by you stepping back and focusing on yourself.
The universe is so much more creative
than anything you could come up with.
You just put good energy into the world
and watch it come back
and that's how I feel with your plans.
We both put it out there that we wanna express ourself,
we wanna make people laugh, we wanna be kind,
we want to be creative
and that's how Giggly Squad happened
and when things don't match up with that,
that's okay, cause plans are a And when things don't match up with that, that's okay,
because plans are a fucking social construct
in your own little teenager head.
I've been sending you a lot of inspirational quotes.
You've been sending me a lot of inspirational quotes.
Now that we're getting into like our mental health moments,
it's that the universe will keep sending you the same thing
to see if you learned your lesson yet, and universe will keep sending you the same thing to see if you learned
your lesson yet, and it'll keep giving you the same result.
And then once you can get the balls to evolve and change
and do the hard thing, then good things will happen.
Because if everyone could do the hard thing,
then everything would be easy.
But it's not.
The hard thing is hard, and you did something
really difficult, and it's not. The hard thing is hard and you did something really difficult and it was confusing.
Yeah, and I think like one of like, which I'm like almost mad about myself was like saying it publicly
because I was just like, oh my God, what are like people going to like make like construe of this and like,
no, so like I don't know whether to like laugh or cry or like, and obviously like there are days where I'm just like,
what am I doing?
Like, who am I?
What do I want?
Where am I going?
Like, and it's confusing and it's hard.
And I feel like people are just walking around acting.
Like their thirties are so easy.
Like here's a perfect example
on how you and I are very different.
I feel like you're very vocal about how your 20s,
you were like, I'm flailing.
I have no idea what the fuck's going on.
Like you hated your 20s.
I loved my 20s.
Could not have been more in my vibe in my 20s.
Had a job I didn't really give a fuck about.
Had so many fun friends.
All I did was party. All I did was go out and go on dates. Like I didn't really give a fuck about, had so many fun friends, all I did was party,
all I did was go out and go on dates.
I didn't live at college, I lived at home for college,
so when I moved to New York,
I really felt like I was finding myself.
I loved my 20s.
My 30s have been a little bit more difficult
than I had planned.
Well, because you have to start taking responsibility
for some shit.
How dare you?
In my breakup episode?
During my breakup episode, sorry.
That was so out of pocket.
I'm so sorry.
You're gonna come at me during my freaking breakup episode?
No, that was so fucked up.
I'm sorry.
I need to apologize to the camera.
No, but.
I'm so fucked up. No, but no no no you actually made a good
point because things like in my 20s that I would be like insecure about I feel
like I've really in my 30s had to be like it's enough like and enough with
being like insecure about that like deal with that like and move on and one of
the things in my 20s was like,
oh my God, what if I didn't have a boyfriend?
And like, what if no one wanted to marry me?
And like then I loved having a boyfriend in my 20s.
Yeah, and so like, and now in my 30s,
I'm like, why are you so fucking insecure about that?
Well, you've been meeting with energy healers.
You have.
I was just gonna say,
the girlies that are going through breakups,
I've been doing the stuff.
I've been putting in the time.
I've been seeing my energy healers.
I've seen two psychics.
I'm obsessed with that.
I'm like, do I start Reiki?
You're about to get a degree from Harvard.
You're gonna start, you're doing Pilates again every day.
I mean, you already have bangs.
That should have been a sign.
I actually, I did start working. I did start working out again because I was like,
I need some like natural dope.
I always say that breakups are like
when you get fired from a job,
which you know is my favorite hobby,
because whenever you leave something, you level up.
Like if you're a corporate girly,
the way you get a big raise is by leaving that job
for the next job and then you just keep growing.
And I do think there's this crazy time in your 20s girly, the way you get a big raise is by leaving that job for the next job and then you just keep growing.
And I do think there's this crazy time in your 20s
where first you're just like, oh, boyfriends are fun,
what can I get?
Who can I see?
Who can I be with?
And then when you realize that the wrong person
is actually like so much worse than you being single,
then you start having this mentality of like,
okay, I love me, I don't like me
with the wrong person, and I love me with the right person.
And that's when you start being smart.
I traumatized myself in my 20s.
I traumatized myself.
If anyone knew me in my 20s or knew any of the guys
that I dated in my 20s, then you know
that I traumatized myself.
And so I think like when I got out of my previous
relationship and I was single and I met Craig,
like I was like, I finally figured it out.
Like I'm gonna be with someone that like loves the fuck
out of me and I'm gonna like, it's good.
This is all like happening the way it's supposed to be.
And I don't think I realized that I didn't give myself time
to get over those men in my 20s and be alone.
You wanted Craig to heal those and that's not his job.
Yeah, I think I looked to him to heal certain things
on why I dated, who I dated.
Yes, there are some girls that just pop out of the womb
and they're confident.
I was not one of them.
Like maybe in my teens I was confident because I didn't know any better.
Maybe as a two month old when my skin was perfect.
When I peaked at four years old on the Easy Bake Oven, yeah, that was my freaking time.
I was at my goal weight of 72 pounds. But like no,
I think I was, I probably got my most insecure when I was like 19 or 20. I dated like a really
physically and mentally abusive man and it changed my whole course of like dating in my 20s. And so
then I looked for like chaos and I looked for like pure just like adrenaline and emotion and I was like
This is so fun and this is so crazy and like so I would get out of one bad relationship and get into like a slightly
Better one but like by standards very bad and I just like filled this pattern until I was like 26
Thought I was dating someone that like,
okay, this is like normal.
And I was like, no, this is not,
like I can't do this either.
And so it's hard to not look at yourself as a girl
and be like, maybe I am the problem.
Maybe it is me.
And in part, like, yes,
it was definitely like people I would pick in the past.
Like I put myself in a lot of situations,
but also at a lot of times
it wasn't my fault. Like it truly wasn't. Like I was just vibing and people were
fucked up. So like it wasn't my fault. And so to be in my early 30s and like be like,
hey bitch, you're fine. Like I'm thankful for. Like I don't regret any of my relationships
because I would have never learned certain things about myself. I don't even know of my relationships because I would have never learned
certain things about myself.
I don't even know if I've ever even said that on the pod
that I was in an abusive relationship before,
but I feel like if I'm gonna say it,
this is the episode I would say it
because I know for a fact a ton of other girls
have been in them too.
Now crying again.
Don't cry.
It was definitely a very weird time of my life.
It was, I was 19, I was 20 years old.
I couldn't even legally drink.
And it really did change a lot of like
how I looked at relationships.
I'd never been exposed to that ever.
I never thought that that could be me.
I never, like I would hear people say like,
oh, you get like brainwashed.
And I'm like, there's just no way.
And I was fully brainwashed. Like I'm like, there's just no way. And I was fully brainwashed.
Like I didn't even, until I got out of that,
like I didn't even know that person.
And obviously I don't think about that now
because it was like over 10 years ago.
But that was one of your first relationships.
Yeah, and so it definitely changed a lot of like
how I dated and I'm not like ashamed, I used to be very ashamed of it.
I would never tell anyone.
And I'm not ashamed of it at all
because I'm really proud of myself on how I handled it
and how I handled it afterward.
And I'm proud of myself on talking about it
and letting girls know it can literally happen to anyone.
I feel like a lot of gigglers see me as very confident,
and it's like, but it also happened to me.
That doesn't make you not confident.
No, but guys like that go for confident women.
They try to find confident women
that they can bring down a manipulator, groom,
and it was never your fault.
If anything, you were shining so bright,
he wanted to dim your light.
And sometimes a relationship like that,
you don't know but you're coping with it
by trying to convince yourself that like,
you can handle that or that it didn't.
Like I'm not a therapist, I don't know the extent of it
but it's like, I know that I was going for guys
who were not emotionally available because I wasn't
emotionally available because I didn't want to get hurt because I wanted to protect myself and
long story short is like thank you for being so vulnerable and open because you don't have to
give us any of this information. No but you know what I do it's not that I feel like I have to
give it to the gigglers but like here's one thing about me, I am loyal and protective,
and I'll be damned if I was gonna see online
people coming at the gigglers and being like,
you don't know what's going on with Paige,
and the gigglers being like, yeah, we do.
Yes, the gigglers will always fucking know first
what's going on with me.
If they've been listening, they know that it's been
this thing of you being busy and your career and what you're trying to prioritize.
And also, yeah, you joked a lot about him,
but it shows how nice of a guy Craig is
that he loves when you make fun of him.
He loves the banter,
and that was part of the fun of your relationship.
He loved you poking fun at him and stuff.
People also don't factor in, yeah, the third lens
that's in the relationship, which is the public eye.
Wait, there was a new giggler that DM'd me,
and he's like, hey, I'm a new giggler, I'm a guy,
but I'm gay, where do I stand in this?
And I'm like, oh my god, you missed the episode,
you're a giggler.
You're actually very important in the giggler. You're actually really high up on the hierarchy
Yeah, so we need you we need you in these streets. How do you feel? I feel
I feel like the last piece of the puzzle was like
Saying it out loud
Like I haven't said it to literally anyone like nobody knows knows this. Like my family and like my very, very close friends
know this, but nobody else.
And so I think like the last part for me was like saying it
to the gigglers and like seeing what would come out
of my mouth when I said it to the gigglers
because I was like, this is something I can't like,
I'm not like rehearsing what I'm gonna say,
but also like I wanna be thoughtful and organic.
Yeah, and it's not gonna be cut up
for a three minute scene.
Right, and so I'm thankful for the gigglers
for knowing me and knowing me at my core
and giving me the space to be able to say
how I truly feel without feeling so judged.
Even though I know there's a lot of non-gigglers
probably listening to this right now,
which, happy to have you, thank you for the engagement.
Also, you may be a giggler if you like
to make fun of yourself.
Stay, swipe up.
New merch just dropped.
Our book comes out available for pre-order.
Which we actually do get into a lot more deeper stuff
in the book, but I do think with you
this is important for the Gigglers because
Anything moving forward that you speak on like they have to know what you've been through and they have to know every single
part of the journey so that we all can understand each other and
I do think like Paige of four years ago wouldn't have done this
No, here's another thing for the gigglers. Yeah.
Every time I do something in my life, thinking back, like, would 25 year old Paige even believe
this?
No, she would have ran away so fucking quick or she would have just like been gone with
the flow.
She was such a go with the flow girl.
And so like there is a sense of like, I'm really proud of myself for like being like,
how do you feel?
Okay, that's how you feel.
What do you wanna do about it?
Okay, that's what you wanna do.
Like then we're gonna do it.
And then like doing it, seeing it through,
and then being like, and you came out the other side
and like, you are fine.
Like every crazy scenario you made up in your head,
whether it happened or it didn't, like you're fine.
And I think that's like, if any giggler needs to hear that,
you are fine, you're going to be fine,
he's going to be fine.
Why am I crying the entire episode?
No, you cried this whole pod.
Also, this could be totally off,
and this might not pertain to you,
but could pertain to other people,
but I was thinking about when you're in a relationship
where someone treats you horribly
and does not respect you,
the way to cope is to not respect yourself.
Yeah, I wasn't in that.
I still loved myself.
I wasn't in that, but yes.
Then when you get treated badly in the future,
you're just like, well, I don't care,
because it's fine, it's not a big deal.
You're not hurting me.
This has to do with friendships.
If you're in a place right now that you're not happy,
you do not have to stay in it.
And you're not selfish, you're not being a bitch.
Because like next week, you could be in a different room
with all different people
and having a completely different experience
than you were this week.
That was your biggest fear.
You've always been so afraid of change.
Yeah, I've always been really afraid of change.
My last boyfriend when we broke up, I was like,
I'm so happy I can laugh about it now.
I was like so terrified that none of my friends
would stay friends with me.
Like I felt like they were gonna be so mad at me
that I was like breaking up with this guy
and that I wasn't ever gonna be able to go out anymore,
I wasn't gonna be invited any place,
and I definitely lost some friends.
I had some friends truly do that,
and it was not as bad as I thought it was going to be.
I think that was the biggest takeaway.
People who would leave that easy.
Right, I was like, oh, you don't fuck with me anymore?
Great, I've been not fucking with you.
Any scenario that you've created in your head
that you're like, that's gonna be the worst,
even if it plays out, it's not as bad
as you thought it was gonna be in your head.
Oh my God.
Thank God I have a kitty, again.
Thank God I got a fucking cat.
I'm...
Because her just purring on my chest,
I'm like, the world's okay.
Life is worth a living.
I do have to say, if you guys are having a rough time,
go to your local adoption shelter,
find the cutest fucking kitten in there, take it,
and pretty much 98% of your problems will be solved.
And that's just science.
Truly.
That's just science.
We didn't plan this by the way,
cause we don't do admin.
I thought you were gonna come on,
say kind of a simple statement.
Me too.
Yeah, okay.
Cause that was the point.
Me too.
Yeah, this took a turn.
I thought I was gonna say like a quick hit.
And then we were gonna resume the episode like normal.
But I just couldn't, I couldn't go into like,
Blake Lively, Justin Baldoni, what's going on?
What's going on?
Like I really, I don't actually have the mental capacity
to read any of those articles, watch any of the videos,
because I'm dealing with my own trauma right now.
But truly, I did not expect,
I certainly didn't expect to tell everyone
about my 19 year old boyfriend, but it feels right.
Like it felt, this episode felt organic.
And if we learned anything from this episode,
if you enjoy Giggly Squad because you enjoy the comedy,
you now realize it's because both of us
have dark, dark demons.
And.
No, it's not great over here.
We're only sarcastic because we've had major trauma that we will not unpack.
We refuse.
And it's for the good of the gigglers because we would not be this funny.
This was us unpacking our trauma is Paige venting to me on a pod and me going,
you're so right.
You're literally so right.
Now let's go back to being stupid.
Sorry that this is like right before New Year's Eve.
I didn't want to ruin your,
I didn't want to ruin everyone's Christmas,
but like I will ruin your New Year's Eve.
Imagine someone goes, I can't,
cause Greg and Paige, I don't believe in love anymore.
Also guys, stop with that.
I can't with the like, I don't believe in love anymore
when a relationship fell apart that like,
you don't know anything about.
They were very good looking together.
We all can acknowledge that
and let's not project that onto them.
I think this is a cool ending.
That was cool.
Thank you so much for going through this journey with me
and letting me be able to like freely speak
and not worry about like how it's gonna be edited,
how it's gonna be cut up,
what people are gonna say about it, what like who did what, like all the speculation. Thank you for giving
me this platform of like all of these amazing gigglers to it's truly therapeutic for me to
like say how I feel and what I'm going through and know that there's girls out there that like
whether they take like a minute of this to like relate to or a second of it like I'm thankful for
it and just thank you and I love you all. We love you guys so much thank you for giggling,
for crying, for everything. Enjoy time with your family or don't or don't. It's not okay to cry on the internet. It is okay to cry on your own podcast. And that's just
science. Bye guys.
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