Giggly Squad - Giggling about virginity, confessionals, and cheating
Episode Date: June 12, 2026Paige found a new side of TikTok and Hannah's mom will always be her emergency contact.subscribe to our newsletter Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information....
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What's up gigglers?
Gary, fix the Wi-Fi.
Manifest that shit.
We can't be managed.
Got away from me?
What's up, my OG Antenobi gigglers?
You know who OG is?
The guy from the necks.
Paige is in a really difficult spot right now because everyone in her life is really happy about the necks.
And she was happy for like three seconds and then she's moved on.
No, I've moved on.
She's worried about her pedicure.
she's worried about other things happening where I have I am still shaking look at my hand
look at my hand you can't see it on audio look at my hand it's shit I'm I can't everyone's going
about their day I'm like how are people going about their day right now here's the thing about
me and Hannah we have a schedule we're scheduled people but sometimes our schedules will
change a little and we'll text the other and say hey do you want to do this earlier because
something changed in my schedule and typically and I love that and I love that
that we can do that with each other.
And typically it works.
Our schedules work.
But sometimes it's like someone has a work thing.
Someone has another call.
Can't do that.
Oh, I have to go.
I'm traveling.
I'm on a flight, whatever.
But today I said, no.
Wait, so we're all texting in the morning and I realize I have like an hour before a call we both have to be on.
So I was like, do we want to knock this out right now?
Like I wrote the cutest like, should we be crazy and just knock out Gigny Squad this morning?
And Paige just writes, no.
And no one says anything after.
And then I go, tell me how you really feel.
Jesus.
Sorry for trying to bring joy and laughter and lightness to the community.
Because I feel like I'm always moving my schedule around.
And this has nothing to do with you.
I always feel like I'm moving my schedule around accommodating people, like whatever.
And today I had to get a pedicure.
And I said, you know what?
No.
I have scheduled that I'm getting a pedicure.
And I have to, like I can't.
I'm getting better at saying no to people, but like not really.
I'm still getting myself in insane situations that people are like, all you have to do is say no.
No, I know.
Because you want to know what?
I've been saying yes to a lot of things.
And then I've been going back and being like, actually, no, I'm not doing that.
And you know what?
You can change your mind.
And that's called freedom of speech.
And actually, I've never not changed my mind in any situation.
I've never made a mind and not changed it.
Yeah.
You're the queen of that.
sorry, kitty's like rolling around on her back, like looking up at me upside down and it's...
Well, you guys, I've been traveling. So, you know, Butter decided she's following me all around.
So she's literally sitting just listening in. Like she's like, we're podcasting now.
I love just like at any given point, there's a cat around me, like napping somewhere.
They do protect us from evil spirits. I have to bring up something important from the last pod that this girl made a TikTok.
talk about and was laughing at us.
Oh, is it about the World Cup?
Okay, how are you supposed to know that?
Okay, wait.
I did know that.
Like, I knew, we knew that it was multiple games.
What do we not know?
I thought that the big game, like the most important one, is in New Jersey.
Is that right?
What'd she say?
She said she was like, they girls thought that it was one game and we asked them to come
to New Jersey. She was like, it's all over the country. I thought it was all over the world.
I knew that they were like all games were all over the world. I just thought that the biggest one
was going to be in Jersey. See, I like that we're starting conversation about women in the arts.
Like that's all our job is. And I love that the women stood up and said, actually, let's live and let's learn.
Yeah. And that's what she did. So thank you. Thank you. Whoever showed us what I don't, I didn't hear it.
But basically they're all over America and New Jersey is one of them.
Like, for example, today at 10pm, South Korea is playing.
Oh, it's happening right now?
I don't know what this team is.
It's happening right now?
I can't keep up.
Yeah, and like tomorrow the USA is playing Paraguay.
Where are you looking right now?
Just like Google.
www.gookle.com.
Ask Jeeves.
Can I please let me start.
Let's talk about the next in the very beginning and then I'll move on, I promise.
Okay.
Okay, so I was alone last night.
And I'm so excited.
I watched the Knicks all comfortable with me and better already.
And let me just say, the thing with the Knicks is that, like, the Knicks had been so bad for so long.
Like, it was like a joke in New York where they'd say, like, when things would get awkward, you're supposed to be like, how about those Knicks?
So you could bond over, like, complaining about how, are you yawning already?
Sorry, I just started.
I thought the phrase was, how about them Yankees.
Actually, wait, I think it's both.
Actually, I was kind of making up a story about the Knicks.
Yeah, I think it could be any team, any.
Anyway, the Knicks suck.
And New York City.
This is what I, this is exactly what's wrong with sports fans.
You guys are so dramatic about every little thing.
Truly.
Like my adrenaline is through the roof.
I'm like, I haven't been able to focus on anything.
I feel like Regina George.
No, Lindsay Lohan and Mean Girls when I'm like, I can't stop talking about it.
I can tell everyone around me is annoyed with me, but I guess I'm back on it.
But it's also sad though, because everyone's so happy, but like the mirror.
will win but then deep down I'm like if we lost like that would have been so fucking sad you know all
i kept thinking about during it was your pedicure is taylor swift really gonna get married here like every
time this screen would show her and then i saw on tic-tac this girl was like i think people are
picturing like msg like her getting married on the stage like i don't think people can picture that
she would decorate msg that it would be like unrecognizable.
She literally was wedding planning
She was like, why are all these men at my wedding venue?
I think that they already got married in like a secret ceremony
And they're just throwing a party this summer
I'd have to say her showing up with the Hymn sisters
With matching shirts that they made is so fucking cute
And saying next to Mariska Hargatai
Like I like people who have fun
Like I have trouble with it
But when I see other people like get like imagine if me and you like pre-planned
a like matching, like we
It would never happen
That would never happen
But it's so cute that they were able to do that
That's not who we are as people though
No but if I had a friend who was like
Ahead of the game
I could possibly like one of them
Just give me yeah just give me more tasks
Yeah
It's friend homework
I watched into the third quarter
And I'm human I can only handle so much
Yeah
And I was like a lot of pain
and I was like, I had a day already.
I don't need this.
So after Kat got elbowed in the face and they were down by 29 points,
I said, I need boundaries.
I'm turning this off.
Like out of respect for my Knicks, I need to.
You didn't want to watch them lose.
No, I couldn't.
No, I turned it off.
I couldn't.
And the Madison Square Garden was silent.
Also, I didn't pay 40 grand for tickets.
I don't have to watch it.
Sorry, Paige.
She did like a cartoon yawn.
She was like,
Do you know once I met a boyfriend that would be like you're so ugly when you yawn like
Cover your mouth
Wait I want to I will literally beat his ass whatever it doesn't even matter but
New York City is the hub of basketball of hip hop of culture and it's like crazy that
We've been so bad for so long so anyway I turned off and I think I was actually watching Mormon
Housewives and I'm scrolling my phone
And like 30 minutes later, I see someone just write OMG Nick.
So I'm like, that's funny.
Like, let me just check what the score is.
And it was 100 to 104.
We were still losing.
But I was like, that must be the wrong game.
We're down by 30.
I'm, it's like 11 p.m. at this point.
I put it back to the Knicks.
I'm freaking the fuck out all alone.
Everyone's asleep.
My dad, you.
Everyone's gone.
So I'm just alone.
I was awake.
I was awake.
Oh, I just assumed you didn't care.
No, of course I care.
It's a cultural moment that I want to be involved in.
I don't want to like, but I had such anxiety watching it.
Like I couldn't.
I was like, okay, I have to look away.
I did get interrupted because I personally was watching a Netflix show while it was.
And then I had to turn the channel because they didn't want to be out of the loop.
But I started watching.
It's called Trill.
Yeah, that was on Hulu before.
I love it.
Is it good?
Oh, my God.
Well, we love her.
I'm obsessed with her.
80 Brian.
I thought it was.
going to be like it's definitely a comedy but it's like a little bit more serious than I thought and I love it I love it wait this is the last thing about the next yeah over under how many times did you think about your grandpa during the game I was like that was my grandpa angel and put the game no because why right when the buzzer like they win I thought Hannah's grandpa
I literally have to stop the pod right now I literally have to stop the bar right now no
Jerry, Jerry, all he did was watch the Knicks.
All he did.
Jerry Seinfeld.
We're like Jerry Burner should have been there.
I didn't tell, actually.
Obviously, like me and Josephine are obsessed with Kitty.
And Taylor came up with this, like, alter ego for Kitty when we are in glam because
Kitty loves glam.
And so we call her Mimi LaRue.
And so one day Josephine was like, wouldn't it be so funny if I, like, booked you
out of a hotel under Mimi LaRue?
Totally.
Is it R-E-A-U-X?
No, it's Mimi, M-I-M-I-L-A-C-R-U-E.
Mimi-L-A-L-A-L-A-C-L-A-L-A-L-A-L-R-R-U-E.
Oh, got it.
So I get to the Four Seasons in California, and I was like, hey, I'm checking in.
I, like, gave my name.
I was like, I don't, it could, this is the name of the girl that could have made it.
And she was like, okay, I'm not seeing that, but I am seeing a Mimi Leroux.
Did she just do that to mess with me?
No, she just did it because she thought it was like going to be funny.
Yeah, but if you didn't know, you could have like not gotten.
And I was like, yes.
Okay, so that is actually me, but my name is Paige DeSorbo.
And she booked it under Josephine, like, and gave her email.
And she was like, okay, I have to call my boss because I like can't have you check in under like three different.
I knew this would cause drama.
And Josephine just wanted to have a little fun.
Josephine's just trying to have a little, like, key-key, like funny.
God forbid you have a little whimsy.
But look, Josephine, when it comes to admin, you can't.
You can't mess around.
And the foursies.
And honestly, the only thing that, like, saved me was she was like, I know you stay here
all the time.
So, like, we know it.
You live here.
But, like, in the future, and I was like, totally.
Hollywood celebrities always use a different name.
Like, Lena Dunham said she had, like, a specific name she used.
Well, like the manager came out and she was like, yeah, if you're going to use an alias, you have to like tell us it's an alias.
And I was like totally got it.
Like my-I- love how she's like, oh, are you a new one, a new alias girl?
Okay, this is how you do it.
My assistant just wanted to like be fun and like we weren't like actually using an alias.
Bitch, this isn't Starbucks.
This is the four seasons.
Tell us your real fucking name.
Social security number.
Oh, that reminds me of high school.
My friend, she was like, I'm going to say my name's Regina at Starbucks.
and have them yell it.
And we thought it was like the funniest thing that ever happened.
That's like low-key bullying.
I guess it.
So what, you don't, is vagina a bad word?
Okay, let's not start there.
Oh, also, I'm kind of obsessed with Kylie Jenner is dealing with when you have a boyfriend,
he has different sides to him.
And we all have sides that we prefer.
Now, Timothy Chevrolet, watching the Knicks, try to win.
their first championship is a monster that I don't think she mentally prepared for where he's
taking his shirt off and jumping into crowds and he's going full like LaGuardia high school
2007 or whatever fuck he was there and um he's she's taking out her phone and filming him at this point
some of the clips I see it's like her taking her digital camera out and taking like pictures of him
just like enjoying the game and I'm enjoying the game and I'm
like at the end of the day
everyone's just a girl
like she's literally just taking pictures
or like putting her photo dump like
and it's just and I
last night they had like matching outfits on
and that's she's probably just most excited
for that I do feel like
they should leave a section
for like for free
to let like top Knicks fans go
because it does feel weird that like
the seats are so expensive for those games
but everyone who's been there all season long, even when they suck, like, can't get in.
Well, the mayor did, like, something for, he did, created, like, a lottery for World Cup
tickets, so maybe he'll do it.
Because no one wants to go to New Jersey?
No, like, because so many New Yorkers wanted to go to the world.
And he was like, yeah, we're right here.
And so he made, like, a, I think it's like $50.
You can enter.
No one's talking about the Jordan, Kylie, like, lore.
Why isn't it being brought up more?
Why isn't it from page?
Like they're hugging.
They're clearly like friends again, but they're not hanging out all the time.
And they're not sitting next to each other, which they totally could be.
Jordan likes to sit under the basket.
Kylie sits on the side.
And then afterwards they like kiki a little bit, but they're not.
I wonder how Chloe's feeling.
I wonder what their status is of their relationship.
I mean, Taylor Swift hugged Kylie.
Do you forgive a friend if they're now like.
engaged to someone else, even though they fucked you over it with something.
What even happened?
She was sitting on Tristan's lap and kissed him.
Right, right, right, right, right.
So Chloe was like, fuck her.
I think they're over this.
I think, I don't think Chloe gives a flying fuck.
Yeah.
I also like think Jordan is the backbone of this household right now because she's been
holding this bag.
Yeah.
You heard about the lucky bag.
Um,
and Kat is amazing.
Anyway,
don't start like looking into the players and all their families and
histories.
They'll make you really emotional.
I just can't.
Honestly,
sports is like too much for me to handle and that.
I'm so glad I'm retired.
Go next.
Okay.
I will say at the end of the game when the guy that made like the winning
tipped it in was like walking back to the tunnel,
I did feel the sense of like I so get how sports is like so emotional.
You know both his parents are dead.
No, I'll cry.
That's why he wasn't smiling.
I didn't know both of his parents were dead.
Okay, then scratch what I'm going to say.
Scratch what I'm going to say.
Actually, I can't say it anymore.
Did I ruin your joke?
Yeah, I can't say it anymore.
Oh, I'm sorry.
You're like, and yeah, his parents are dead.
So do you want to keep being a bitch?
Wait, that's so sad.
My friend called me because he was out, like, I was not on the streets.
And I was like, what's it like out there?
and he's like Hannah, I've never hugged so many random men in my life.
Like the men are just hugging.
I felt like a loser like not being out.
I'm like, I should be with the people.
And then I was like, what?
No, no, no.
It's more fun to what.
You can hear it.
You can feel it.
Most emotion we've seen from the men in a while.
Most emotion we've seen in a couple years from them.
I think this is good.
Yeah, it's nice to know that they're capable to get there and feel something.
I think that's what we needed going into the same.
summer with them we needed them to feel like oh yeah i do have human emotion outlets that could be
expressed that's not just anger and confusing like confused confusion wait someone was joking that
new york city's crime rate is at like zero right now because all the criminals are watching the
next okay that's one thing i will say i will never understand when your city wins something so you
vandalize it.
No.
They're waiting, but right now, like, crime is at an all-time low because all the men are not
being criminal.
They're busy watching the game.
We literally, like, it's not a joke when we say, like, you have to occupy your boyfriend.
Like, it's a toddler.
Like, you put the game on and say, okay, you're going to watch this and then I'll be back.
Like, they're really just children.
They're all in, like, boy day camp right now and night camp.
Imagine, like, every time the Victoria's Secret runway,
show was on TV, like crime just like went down because like all the girls were watching it.
I also feel like even like our Erest tour, we're not like hugging and kissing each other like they are.
No, I feel like the Taylor Swift girls were.
I'm trying to think in what context do I have to be in to hug a bunch of people.
I don't know.
You've never hugged a bunch of people you don't know unless it was like.
Kigley Squad meet and greet.
And you were blackout during it.
Yeah, that's the only time I've hugged a bunch of people I know in a in a session.
that like but hugging a giggler is completely different totally did well hugging a girl's different
yeah but also every giggler would hug me then look at you and be like I know you hate hugs and you'd be
like good in here I don't know if I like hugs I just don't I'm a people pleaser so I'm like let's
let's not do the whole shit we're just hug let's get over with yeah it's like a blowjob like
just fucking do it I've stopped like honestly I've actually probably gotten rude about it because like in certain
where like you're behind a table or something and people and someone walks in it's like you're expected to like get up and I've stopped doing that I'm like yeah I'll get you when I get up like no you've had a long day I'm not like possibly knocking over this table and all these like plates and glasses to hug you like no no I'm on arts and crafts TikTok right now like oh my god actually stumbled upon angry arts and crafts that's so you it's so niche it's literally water color
earring for Scorpio's. It's a girl that teaches you how to make, I don't know even what she was making. She was thinking like plant potters or something, but she yelled at you while she was doing it. And I was like, I was like, let me settle it. Yeah. Let me settle. No, I thought you were going to say you make like pottery and then you break it. Honestly, I wish. But she was like making. She was like, yeah, obviously that's the next step. Like I'm not stupid. And I'm like. Yeah.
I'm like actually follow I want all your videos
I do love a no bullshit
yeah I'm really like a chef
yeah that isn't nice about it I like that I'm really deep into like home
improvement TikTok and some of the girls are so I know it's so
are you actually trying any of this stuff in your own no no but I'm just saying I'm just
saying like the girls will get a hobby and then they'll just do it
Like there's a girl that I follow and every month she redecorates her bathroom.
She has a new theme and she just does it.
And we mind our own business so much of the time.
Who could have a problem with us?
No.
And so I'm really into the girls just like being at home and having their own hobbies.
I love that.
It's really nice.
Speaking of home, I found my wedding ring.
I didn't know you lost it.
I just wanted to say next summer I do think I'm going to,
there's going to be a situation where I want to have a garden,
or at least a plant that grows a tomato.
But that's for next year.
You can talk to my mom.
That's where I feel like my life is headed.
She has a garden.
I bought my mom like a little garden toolkit that comes with a little seat that you put.
So while you're gardening,
you have a little seat so you don't hurt your back.
She's obsessed.
It's like pattern.
You know it's a whole aesthetic.
It's a whole world over there.
Yeah.
I didn't know you lost your ring.
Well, okay.
I took it off.
and then, you know.
Life happens.
I lose my phone every three seconds.
Of course, if I take off my wedding ring,
it's like that's up to God at this point.
You just always wear your engagement ring.
Oh, so you always just look engaged.
I know.
Everyone's like, are you engaged?
I'm like, yeah.
No one said that to you.
No, everyone thinks I'm just engaged.
Really?
He doesn't know me.
Yeah.
Like when I go somewhere, they're like, oh, did you just get engaged?
But told my mom, I was like, fun fact.
I actually don't know where it is.
Like I was afraid to like admit it to myself.
But I hadn't looked for it because I don't know where it is.
How many months had passed?
Over a year.
Oh.
And I'm like staying in a different apartment and like things have shifted.
Like I've lost less important things.
Yeah.
You know.
So my mom looks at me and she goes, I know where it is.
I said, how do you know?
And she goes, because I put it somewhere because I knew you're going to lose it.
And I said, and that's why you're my emergency contact.
Where was it?
Where did she put it?
it's in like my jewelry box that i like never open because like god forbid i pick it i wear some jewelry
so i opened it it was right there i wore it for a day and then i was like uncomfrey put it back
why are we both like that it's actually kind of annoying because like i would love to like wear more jewelry
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I saw this thing on TikTok and it was like so opposite of what I'm going to say.
She looks gorgeous.
But it was like showing different housewives, not like the real housewives, like actual
housewives of different like decades.
No matter what age you are in my head, if my friends are doing it, like I'll do it.
So like if all of my friends collectively right now we all decided we were going to stay home and be trad wives, I'd be like, okay, I'll do it if my friends do it.
Then I got to thinking, what decade of housewife?
Oh, you got dark.
You got real dark.
If you had to pick a decade of being a housewife, what decade are you picking?
are you picking like the early seven or like the 70s when you're about to get your own credit card or are you picking like the 80s where they're really rebelling or are you picking like the 50s where they're like really diving into it when were the men gone at war they were gone a couple times because I know like when the men were gone I feel like the girls were having so much fun also we kept the economy going like we were fully fully did every job like during world
War II is what you would have. I literally don't know wars like it could go into my head no idea what
wars but I know the guys were gone the girls were at home it's when the guys came back and they were
trying to like change everyone's lifestyle and we were like we were actually really good when you were
gone like rosy the riveter like post rosy the riveter and we were like we actually could
figure it out and they were like yeah but we don't want you to and that's why then it could
have been a fun time too though because they discovered Xanax I think I could have made that up but
Like they were all high as a kite and like hammered and drunk, which like sounds fun for like a couple weeks.
Okay.
So that's where I would go.
I would have picked like late 60s, early 70s.
Like drugs are just coming out, but like we don't really know what's going on.
And doctors are still prescribing like crazy drugs, but it's from a doctor.
So I'm going like, I'm going like early 70s, which now that I think about it.
That would have been like our grandmas.
So my nana's job.
My nana never smoked weed or drank or did drugs because she was like a nice, a nice,
your grandma never smoked cigarettes?
No.
That's why your skin looks so good.
But you'd be if, okay, this is what she would do.
I told you her husband would leave to work and she would have all day to make sure she
had dinner ready and the house cleaned.
Okay.
When she'd say I'm an hour away, she would make sure it's all done and put her face on,
make sure she looked really, really pretty, full makeup, full eyelash set,
sitting down with the food, all the laundry done.
But she had all day to do it.
And then at some point she got a job as a secretary,
and she would wear like Mugler sets.
Like she was madman.
Yeah.
And like I don't even know if she like, she could kind of type,
but like that wasn't the point.
They were just like all the guys were looking at her.
But she just wore iconic sets.
as a secretary and that was like considered you know a woman in the arts woman in stem yeah i would
have been high all day yep you would have loved being a secretary for these men i would have loved
hosting like oh your boss has to come over for dinner on a friday night hell yeah i'll host like i will
whip up the best presentation see imagine trying to do all of that and you're like so high
There has to be such great stories of housewives that they could like never tell.
Well, you know I would have been lobotomied.
Yeah.
Can you smoke weed on a lobotomy?
No, they would have been like she's hysterical is the word they would have used for you.
Oh, God.
Anyway, that was like my random song.
Also, no one was out back then.
So like everyone was just gay married.
Well, my whole thing was like they had to be on the phone all goddamn day.
because there had to have been so much happening that was like secretive and like so gossipy.
Because if they were all just home, the time, I mean, they had to pass the time some way.
Well, to this day, my Nana, she wakes up.
She has her phone call with Rosalie, her best friend from the 20s, who knows.
And like every Thursday she's a phone call with someone else.
Like she has all her phone calls set up.
And that's, I think, how she always.
shoot this bitch and you'd be on the phone just tripping your kids with the phone line bring back home
phone landlines i want a psychic to talk to you about why you're so obsessed with nostalgia i think
that's more of a the question for a therapist and i think it's because it's the last time i felt peace
which was when i was a child i underestimated like the whole
adult responsibility part.
Like I truly underestimated that as a child.
Well, you want to know what?
I went so much of my life thinking, well, then I'll get married.
Yeah.
And then I'll be married.
Like I ended a lot of sentences in my teens and 20s with and then I'll be married.
And then one day I was just like, that is actually just going to cause more problems.
Do you think I ruined your life?
Like, I feel like, I just feel like subconsciously when I met you, I hated so many people you were with.
I thought you were going to say I hated so many things about you.
No, I like, I put you on a pedestal and I see the men trying to like dim your light.
Yeah.
And I'm like, if you don't fucking do what you're supposed to do, you're going to be miserable.
So, and then next thing you know, we're doing stuff and we're on a plane and you're like, I could have had a family by now.
but instead you were like, chase your dreams.
I don't blame you at all,
but I think becoming friends with you helped me realize
that I wanted to be louder more often than I was loud.
Ooh.
Like I didn't realize I actually wanted to say more things,
but I didn't know I could.
Do you think confessionals also helped you find your voice a little bit
because you didn't have to like say it in front of people?
I think confessionals helped me realize that my comedic timing was better than other people's for like no apparent reason.
I actually have a vivid memory of going in for confessionals and they were like, Paige was in before you.
She really killed it.
She was so funny.
And I was like, oh, shit.
Okay.
Like, I'm going to be really funny.
And then I try to say something funny.
And they're like, no, you're actually really mad in this scene and you're crying.
So we're going to need you to be upset.
The only thing that would annoy me about those is they'd be like, well, she didn't say it in the moment.
And I'm like, yeah, because it was six months later.
Like, I didn't think of it.
Like, you know, so that was where people, they make it really do, they do make it seem like it's real time.
Yeah.
Also, they're telling you to make a comment.
You're not like, can I please speak on this?
Like, that's how it seems.
You're pulling from memory.
You're not pulling from like what they're going to show.
you're pulling from your own experience
and sometimes, yeah, it's not
sometimes it's never going to be
what they show because everyone's experience
is individual. But whatever, I digress.
I digress.
No, I think
becoming friends with you was very
pivotal in my,
I don't even want to say career because that
almost like dumps it down my whole
life, my whole
but also I didn't
like change anything within you.
I literally
like I feel like allowed you.
I just thought I would like getting married.
Like I didn't know the more I grew up,
how in charge I wanted to be of things and how controlling you.
So like it was almost like you were like, it's okay.
A lot of people actually hate it and you don't have to do it if you don't want to.
I'm more though was like, I'm fine with whoever you date as long as
you can chase your dreams.
And I think you thought your dream was marriage.
And then you started reprioritizing your dreams.
Yes.
And then I was like, wait.
I think the biggest thing for me was really when I turned in my early 30s,
like turned 30 on how.
You're still in your early 30.
Yeah.
How much I realize men are so incompetent.
Like I think that was the biggest change from me turning 29 to 30.
I thought like, well, they're not going to save you.
Once you get into your 30s and you're,
like men in their 40s like they're really competent they know it they don't they've they've no idea they know less than you
some of the questions i've been asked before from men about like everyday life would throw you off your
rocker i love when you say throw you off your rocker it really get like simple things trying to think though
of just like one like i was once in a car ride with one of my mom's friends and thinking back at it
i'm like that was kind of crazy but like i was definitely young like
And she looked at me and I think I asked her about her husband.
Like you know you start realizing your mom's friends have like their own lives.
Yeah.
And you're like, what's going on with the tea?
You're like, what do you do when you leave our house?
And she told me, I really like him when we're on vacation.
Like my husband and I are really good on vacation.
But otherwise, he's actually the worst.
And men, you can never count on them for anything.
My mom has a saying.
Now listen to him because this is a good one.
Listen, though.
Men, children, and pets, they never act the way you want them to.
Kim Shakespeare Disorbo.
I'm like, one time, like, Daphne did something.
I legit, think I was, like, hosting.
So I don't know, even know what I was doing.
And I was like, and then she shit all over.
And she goes, well, it's just a lesson.
Your husband, your kids, and your pets are never going to do what you want them to do.
And the funniest part about this whole thing is I accidentally got married like five years ago.
Yeah, and you got married.
One time I called my mom and I didn't realize I was on speaker and I was like, you want to know what, mom?
I'm really annoyed at you.
And she was like, for what?
And I was like, I think that it was your duty to tell me how useless men actually are.
Like, no, seriously, mom, when's the last time a man was useful to you?
I was like, in the last two weeks, has dad done something that was so pivotal in your life?
And she goes, Paige, you're on speaker.
Hey, Mick?
Hey
Paige this is Thanksgiving
And I was like
No let's
They were really gonna talk about it
Let's actually talk about
Name one thing
Put him on
And she's like
Actually like your dad does do a lot of things
I go name them
Name them
I was like I wasn't even talking about him
I was just talking about men in general
I think that was the biggest shock in my 30s
That I thought they were like
I just thought they were doing more out here
I thought they were out here
Well, they were doing more when we weren't allowed to do as much.
Okay, then all of a sudden your friends start having babies and they're telling you their birth
stories and they're like, I'm on all fours.
I'm doing, I'm doing no epidural.
I'm talking to a girl yesterday.
She's like, I'm pregnant with twins and I'm deciding if I'm doing it natural.
Like, we're just so much better.
Once you start bringing in labor, I'm like, where do you guys compete with us?
Where do you measure up in anything?
It's too much for me to handle.
I'm also on one today.
I got a lot of emails that pissed me off right before I got on the pod.
We're so connected.
You don't even start talking.
I got on.
I was like five minutes late.
And I could just tell by your energy.
I was like, oh, she wants to murder.
I was like, good morning.
How are you?
Like, I love everyone that works at Daphne.
Like, truly feel like I, they're my friends when I have.
to do stuff. People don't tell you the relationships you will form in your 30s through like your
co-workers. They don't talk about it like seriously as friendship. Like no, those are real friendships
in your 30s that you would have never met in your 20s. Because I had so many jobs though in my 20s,
I really did like always have like an office. Comaiderate wife. Yeah. That like will still text me to this day
and be like,
LOL, do you remember when we were in the bathroom crying?
I think work,
co-workers,
but that's why people fall in love at work all the time too
because you're like,
you just become bonded.
Yeah.
And that's why I think even on some of these reality shows,
you're a bunch of coworkers.
Trauma bonded over stuff.
They're trauma bonded over stuff.
Other than us, we're sisters.
We're trad wives sisters.
Soulmates, Hannah.
Did you think the first time you met me?
like that is my soulmate.
No, but I knew that like there was something about you that I wanted to like bother you.
Yeah.
Like you know when like for some reason you're like I want to talk to this person?
And for me there was something about you that I was really comfortable with.
Like I didn't feel like I had to perform for you, which is so funny because all we do together is perform.
But like one on one I was like I don't have to be anything but myself with this girl.
By the way, when I say we didn't think we were soulmates, I meant like when I first met you very briefly at an office when you were like trying to get a meeting and you were like standing there.
Yeah.
But the second we walked into Summer House, I actually remember someone being like, to me, they were like, we're kind of worried about Paige.
Like she fell asleep the whole day and like we need her to bring it.
And I remember like being a little defensive of you and like I didn't even know you.
And I remember being like, she's fine.
She's going to be fine.
She clearly, she's in REM sleep right now.
But when she wakes up, she's, I was like, don't fucking talk about my friend like that.
Mind you, I was literally one day and you slept the whole time.
She's actually really smart when you get to know her.
I remember.
And like, look, did you sleep like the entire dinner?
Yes.
Was it?
Yes.
Well, and now you know that I am nervous narcolepsy.
You know what it is, though?
When you go through hard times, and it's the same with relationships.
you go through hard times and two people decide do we want to make this work or not.
Yeah.
And after you decide like a bunch of times, you're like, okay, we're obsessed with each other.
Like we can handle things.
But that's your 30s.
Well, because I do think sometimes people are like, oh, that's my friend from work or something.
And they like almost like brush it off like, oh, it's a work relationship.
But sometimes I feel like that is the universe like putting you in these search different
situations where it's like, no, this could be a lifelong friend that you've just, you've met a little
later. Like, I think we should put more effort into our work friendships because I think they're more
important than people ever give credit to. Oh my God. I had some of my best friends where it were.
Yeah. Because also you have a common goal. You have common things you complain about. Like,
it's literally perfect. I love having a work crush. But also I do have to say it. The reason I'm so happy
I'm not in my teens and 20s anymore is because when something bad happens to you,
It's the first time something like this has ever happened and you're like, this is how I die.
Like this is the end for me.
I don't see a path out of this.
Where in your 30s you're like, this has happened to me four times already.
Right.
And I know exactly how to deal with this.
Yeah.
So like everything just is a little less painful in your 30s.
And I just want all the girls to look forward to that.
Yeah.
Remember when I was nervous about my pimple?
Which one?
Well, I had a huge pimple before I was supposed to shoot something.
and then it went down in two days.
Oh, right, right, right.
Oh, the one you recently had on your forehead that you said that you put toothpaste on,
it really pissed me off.
But that's karma.
Yeah.
That's my karma, guys.
Like, you wonder, like, it's called peaceful sleeping and pimples are just going away
for no reason.
That's from kindness and love.
I'm over here putting a million needles every four seconds into my skin.
You know, I watched a TikTok video the other day of,
it was like an animation of,
what micro-needling actually is.
You loved it?
I loved it, Hannah.
I loved it.
Wait, why do they have to numb your face?
Like, because it's that painful?
Hell, yeah.
It's so, it's going so, it's low-key going deep, kind of.
Because it's basically hurting your whole face so that your collagen is like, oh, my God,
we have to repair the skin and it, like, boost your collagen.
It's like tricking your skin into thinking it's hurt.
You sound like the looks maxer.
I sound like clavicular.
Yeah, you're like if you stab yourself in the face enough, your skin gets stronger.
And maybe that's why I find him so annoying.
I'm like, do not come for our aesthetic.
Women for tens of thousands of years have been saying beauty is pain.
Do not come over here.
I'm like nervous to get microneedling even though I have to.
No, I love it.
You have to do it.
So the rest of the day, are you just like a freak?
No.
Oh, my God.
Mine, like, I'm read for like maybe an hour.
One of my girlfriends got it done and she was read for, this is just how people are like very.
She was read for like five hours.
I was read for like two.
Also, quick update.
I talked about pepper.
I wanted a cat named pepper.
I want to call it guy pepper.
Turns out every giggler's cat's name is pepper.
I've gotten like a hundred.
photos of cats named pepper i don't remember you mentioning this well i did okay and it was a really
pivotal point in the podcast but that's okay um it's literally then all i talked about two weeks ago
but um they there's so many cute cats named pepper so i just have to say shout out to everyone
who named their cat pepper it would be really cute like pepper lemon and pepper like thinking if
you got like an orange cat you named it lemon and then you got like a black cat you named a pepper
I love how you say orange orange orange we have to discuss Ethan and Ariana now why did she take that lady's husband if she didn't want him why did she do that
I love me you just say what everyone's afraid to say you didn't need that man you didn't want that man you didn't care about that man let that man go be with his wife and child
that's why her song which is I hate that I made you I made you love me everyone's like we think it's about the fans I'm like
No.
I think it's about her three long year affair.
I think he's weak and disgusting.
Like, I think if you can leave your wife and a newborn baby, like, what conviction do you have in this world?
Like, who are you as a person?
I heard that in the theater community because he's, like, one of the three straight men.
He's, like, wanted.
Like, everyone's, like, he's hot.
So in his, in the theater world.
Okay, so a made-up realm.
But, um, you say, you're saying.
you think he's like a toxic fuck boy because he's like he only lives in the theater world where
people are like you're so hot and you're so cool and like we want you where if he went and worked like
in finance yeah he'd have a very different experience he'd be hazed I think that's why he even had
the confidence and she loves musical theater like I'm trying to make sense of it oh like that he
had the confidence to even cheat on his wife with Ariana Grande like at some point you're like
actually this is like I have a hot take yeah and this could be completely wrong okay but I think
Ariana Grande has a little Justin Bieber to her where she doesn't have any dopamine left because she's
done so many things in her career that are so spectacular and intense and amazing so for her to feel
something she has to like steal someone's awesome okay do you want to hear my argument I argue that
Ariana Grande went through a very public
breakup with Mac Miller and then
ultimately he died
not shortly thereafter there was
a shooting at one of her concerts
so traumatizing
that is two really
extremely traumatizing canon events
I would assume
and
I would think that your whole brain
chemistry is rewired after both of
those things, let alone, like, them back to back.
Because you don't know how long it takes people to actually grieve and, like,
actually get through traumatic things and process things.
And, like, I would say a shooting at your concert where little girls die is, like,
years and years of, like, actually working through that.
And I could see her being, like, a little, like, she changed, like, I don't know,
like she got me disconnected.
And so almost doesn't feel like, hey, you just stole this lady's husband and you did, like,
a really bad, morally bad thing.
Like, cheating is bad.
Like, you shouldn't have participated in that.
And I could see her almost like not even like, okay, we want to know what something bad is.
Something bad is someone dying.
Like falling in love actually isn't bad.
You know, I could see that being part of.
By the way, we don't know anything about it.
Also, we're making this up.
We're making this up.
This is all made up.
But also, like, I would love to be a fly in the wall when Ethan is going to like co-parent.
And she's like, hey, how's.
How's Ariana?
Or just like your kid growing up and being like, why did you guys get divorced and be like, well, your dad left me for Ariana Granda?
The pop star.
And she played with him like a cat for about two and a half years.
But it's funny how it's like the second Wicked is over.
Like give it two months.
And it's that's a workwife.
That's a workwife.
Why don't she just be normal and just cheat and not tell your wife like a normal person in Hollywood?
Have sex at a hotel, you freaks.
Like, what?
Also, my thing is like, no one.
I love a dramatic pause.
I was just trying to like think how I, I've had some really good sex in my life.
Of course, of course.
I've also had some really non-eventful sex in my life.
No one that I've ever had sex with would be worth blowing up my whole life.
would be worth, like, ruining this other woman's life.
I don't get.
I don't get that.
It is funny.
Actually, when I lost my virginity and I told my mom, I think I actually said, like,
and I don't really get the hype about sex.
And I feel like she looked at me like, yeah, I get that.
I feel like when you're younger, we were so afraid to talk about sex and the gen Zsies are
probably different.
Well, I don't even know what they're having sex.
But, like, do you remember when your friends would talk about it for, like, the first
couple years, like, she gave it hand jobs.
She gave a BJ.
but no one was like telling each other like she lost her virginity but no one was like it's
really bad like when did we start was it in college i don't even know in college because we still would
be like we're hooking up like we're hooking up but we weren't being open with each other that like
the sex would maybe we'd be like oh he's a small dick or i don't even think i started calling men
out for having a small dick until i was like later in college where i like said to my friend
I think he might have a small dick, but like, I don't know.
I remember once, this was like early 20s, this guy just got out of a really long relationship.
And we went back to my place.
And I guess he was trying to like, sorry, mom, like finger me.
Yeah.
But he was like, he actually, I'm not even joking, was on like the muscle that connects my leg and my vagina.
Yeah, that like bone.
Right.
I know exactly.
And at first I was like, okay, he's teasing me.
He's teasing me.
Like the full, like the dip in which your thigh connects to your actual badge.
I know exactly what you're talking about.
And then it went on like a little too long and then I realized, oh, you think that's my
the spot.
And then I immediately thought about his girlfriend who he's been with for like seven years
who we just got out of a relationship with.
And I was like, she either didn't know or she didn't want to speak up or like how this
happened.
So girls, we have to speak up.
But I remember telling my friend like he fingered my thigh.
and I was so funny that night.
I had a great night.
It was killing.
It's so important because also that is like gossiping and that's what keeps women like alive.
Like I think I mean I had such a good mom though.
Thank God I felt comfortable enough to go to my mom to be like, hey like I think I have like it's burning when I pee.
And that's what it is.
So like can you help me?
But like if I was nervous, I would never know.
Well, that's like Whitney in Housewives, I mean in Mormon wives when she's like, Mom, why couldn't you tell me what sex was?
I had to figure out on my wedding night and it was a fucking horror film.
And I'm like, yeah, that's why you have to talk to people for safety and pleasure and understanding.
We're not holes.
We're not just holes.
Do you want to hear something so crazy about when I told my mom that I wasn't a virgin anymore?
You never told me this before.
Now, thinking back, I must have had a UTI because I literally made myself sick thinking that I had like an STD.
Oh, yeah, everyone thinks that.
Like literally, like I couldn't sleep.
Like I was like sick.
I was like, I have to tell my mom like, oh my God.
Like, oh my God.
I'll never forget.
I'm like, I'm going to die and she doesn't know it's because of herpes.
I'm a senior in high school and I like go.
I'll never forget.
It was like being a little kid going down into the kitchen.
like I threw up. I was like mom and she I'll never forget she was ironing and I was like I have to
which is so classic Italian mom she's like she's like she's like what I'm like okay so like something
is like kind of happening with like my vagina and like I don't know what's going on and like and she I remember
her like staring at me and I'm like and like I had sex and I remember whispering like sex so like
anxiety made me tell her not like our amazing relationship and bond just anxiety
were so different because my mom was like you should probably have sex by now and she was like
okay well what's going on do you want to show me like and so like that and ultimately I think I
probably had like a little bit of a UT and she was like just drink water and like we'll see what
happens and like nothing happens but a couple weeks later maybe like I'd have to call Stephanie and like
really figure out the story because I won't remember I got into a fight with one of my girlfriends
in high school.
Who knows about what?
But we were like really fighting, okay?
Like to the point where she like called my house phone and I'll never forget.
I've spoken to her since this like obviously.
She called your house phone to hash it out like after school.
No.
She called my house phone and I'll never forget answering and being like hello and her being
like, let me talk to your mom.
And I'm like, no, you're not talking to my mom, you freak.
I feel comfortable saying this because her.
And her and I are like friends.
So like thinking back, it's like so funny.
I'm like, you're not talking to my mommy freak.
Like what are you going to say to my mom?
And I'll never forget.
She was going to, she was going to spill the beans.
She starts yelling.
Paige actually isn't a virgin and she did fuck her for being like,
how dare you?
See how you try to ruin my life?
I'm an angel.
And I'll never forget my mom heard it and got on the phone and was like,
hey, you guys are having a fight and that's your friend.
don't go and try and like tell on her and I remember being like fuck yeah mom like and then she hung up
and she was like we have to talk yeah and then she hung up and she was like what are you doing she goes
what's up slut but anyway that's just like girlhood and we love page loves nostalgia she's working on
it in her therapy later this week actually this is her therapy session um thank you guys
oh we're done yeah we're done thank you for giggling with us um keep sending me photos
from the Hulu special.
Happy anniversary to Daphne, baby.
And you don't daftap.
Not the cat, the company.
And we'll talk to you later.
Bye.
