Gilbert Gottfried's Amazing Colossal Podcast - Bad Werewolf Movies Encore

Episode Date: July 29, 2024

GGACP celebrates the birthday of legendary actress and Gilbert favorite Maria ("The Wolf Man") Ouspenskaya (b. July 29, 1876) with this ENCORE of a funny and informative mini-ep from 2018. In this ep...isode, the boys shoot a silver bullet through the heart of some lesser-known and less successful werewolf flicks, including "Wolf," "She-Wolf of London," "Face of the Screaming Werewolf" and the unforgettable “The Rats Are Coming! The Werewolves Are Here!" PLUS: Remembering Glenn Strange! In praise of Larry Cohen! David Janssen plays a lycanthrope! And George Zucco visits Ed Wood! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:27 Benefits vary by card, other conditions apply. Here we go, boys. Two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. Give it up for the Colossal Obsessions. Give it up for the Colossal Obsessions. And with us is a very brave man who, uh, it's, it's the, uh, the Southern black jazz singer Ray Bones. Wait is it jazz singer now or is it blues singer? Well, yes, I'm talking about the
Starting point is 00:01:14 Tenille Diamond jazz singer. Oh, I see. With Lawrence Olivier going, I have no son. Very good. And anyway, he came out, it took a lot of courage to come out and say this, that he's suffering from Munchausen syndrome by proxy.
Starting point is 00:01:39 And you know- I love that movie. My favorite Cohen brothers. And he's, you know, up until now, it's cause that's, I think two, I think one out of every two people in the public has Munchausen. I didn't know that. Yes. And now they announce it may be a lot more than that. It's under publicized.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Yes. For something that's such an epidemic. Munchausen. If it's all right with you, next week I'd like to under publicized. Yes, yes. For something that's such an epidemic. Munchausen. If it's all right with you, next week I'd like to bring my proxy. Bring your proxy. Yes, I'd like to. And I think Bono is doing a concert.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Really? Yes. That's right. Good old Bono. Concert for Mooncoaster. All cares about his fans. Now, here's something from the Dracula one we did. Okay. We did worst Dracula movies in case you weren't listening last week. Now, although Lon Chaney Jr. was miscast as
Starting point is 00:02:35 Dracula. Yeah. The movie wasn't terrible. Not terrible, but not good. No, not really good, but it has parts that are okay. It was the first on-screen transformation. Yes, yes. And so it's a passable one. Some say even kind of good. And Dracula's daughter. I got shit for that one online. People said Dracula's daughter is good
Starting point is 00:03:03 because it's got the lesbian scene. Yes, yes. I got shit for that one online. People said Dracula's Order is good because it's got the lesbian scene. Yes! Yeah, but that was the first thing I said when you mentioned... See, perverts like me and the rest of the guys out there know about good lesbian scenes and horror. Yep. In fact, it was Proxy by Munchausen or whatever his name is. Paul Raybone who brought that up. Well I'm the one who brought it up first cuz I know yes it had a lesbian scene. Yes so we apologize. That's what I love about that. We apologize to the fans Chris Cluess if you're listening and the fans of Dracula's daughter. Cause it's that scene where she's painting, uh, she needs a girl model and she's painting her and it turns very lesbian.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Okay. It could be more or less lesbian. Moderately lesbian. Extremely lesbian. Mucho lesbianos. Now, uh, which is that I watched that on the Spanish channels. Mucho Lesbianos. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Who passed? Oh, well, we should do, we're going to do a whole episode about our friend, James Karen. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:25 We know James and love him too much to try to squeeze him into two or three minutes here. We wanted to squeeze him into mucho lesbiano. He might have appreciated that. Yes. He would have died a lot happier. We will do a future episode soon, a proper tribute, and send off to the great, wonderful James Karen. But! So yeah, so that was wrong, Dracula's Daughter.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Yep. Cause it's a respected, weird cult film. So let's see which ones you have issued with this one. Son of Dracula, you know, not a classic, but perfectly watchable. Just Chaney miscast as the Count. So since we're threatening to take up the whole episode with this introduction, I have more introductory material I would like to introduce. Because we like to keep the podcast on a strict scientific basis.
Starting point is 00:05:19 So a researcher looked since 1850, there have been 56 case descriptions of people who believed they were metamorphosizing into an animal. Thirteen met the criteria for clinical lycanthropy. Wow. Excellent. The understanding that they are turning into it. That's what you'll have next week. That's it, yes.
Starting point is 00:05:37 And you can get that in some of our best offerings, the clinical lycanthropy box. Next week he'll open the show by saying you have clinical lycanthropy next week hell over the show by saying you have clinical like I've made a mistake you're saying you shouldn't have brought it up, but I appreciate that you took a scientific approach I like to try to get us back on the rails and the one who discovered that was dr. Lon Chaney jr. Paul as a scientist Paul's bringing a scientific perspective to the show. You have to appreciate that. Thank you, Paul. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:06:10 I like my work to be noticed. That really means a lot to me. You're in the wrong place. Yes. Professor Lawrence Talbot discovered clinical lycanthropy. I promised Gilbert last week that we would do even though by the time this you're listening to this episode Halloween month has come and gone But we have one holdover because we did bad Frankenstein movies Gilbert got very very excited. I have Frankenstein Yeah, I haven't seen you that excited since muchos lesbianos
Starting point is 00:06:42 And I Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha But this week I promised you bad werewolf movies. So Raybone and I Did some digging and this is what we came up with. I don't know if I'll be Cuz I'm you know, I'm a strict Cheney Jr. fan. Well, what if I started out with one that starred George Zuko? Oh my god. And had Glenn Strange in it. Wait, wait, wait, wait Was that Mad Monster? You bet. Oh my gosh. He's amazing.
Starting point is 00:07:29 That's it. From 1942. And as always, and they even used it in this next to last, the first of the Jurassic World pictures. They have watch his name with the long name. He's always the villain. I think it's an Italian name, which explains why he does bad things.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Wait a minute, in the first Jurassic Park? No, no, the last, the first Jurassic World. Oh, which I didn't see. Vincent D'Onofrio. D'Onofrio see. Vincent D'Onofrio. Yeah, D'Onofrio. When I saw him in that, all I could think is, well, this guy's been hanging out with George Zuko. He says, we can train these velociraptors
Starting point is 00:08:21 and they'll fight wars for us. Famous last words. And so, yeah, in Mad Monster, Mad Monster is like Glenn Strange doing a combination of the wolf man. That's right. And of mice and men. He plays Petro.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Yes. Or Petro. And it's also of mice and men because he's walking around when he's Petro. And, and it's, it's also Mice and Men because he's walking around when he's Pedro, he's like, well, ah, okay, doctor. It's both a wolf man and a Mice and Men homage? Yes. How disturbing. There's, there's one part in the movie I love.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Glenn Strange is, you know, know, the guy was about eight feet tall in real life and really big bulky guy and he, George Zuko, sends him to kill someone in the room so he tiptoes up behind him. Like you wouldn't hear him. It would be like Frankenstein tiptoeing. He tipped, so yeah, that one I like. You're actually going to defend this one, okay?
Starting point is 00:09:38 I'll defend, no, I mean it's a piece of shit. Don't get me wrong. It's a likeable one. It's an enjoyable piece of shit. It's an enjoyable piece of shit. It took five days to film this masterwork. That sounds like one-shot Bodeen. No, it was actually Sam Newfield. I have one trivia piece with this. In the few years earlier George Zuko was in in 1939 The Cat and the Canary starring with what mesmerizing woman? Oh. Oh, Paulette Goddard? Paulette Goddard.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Oh, jeez. And the reason she was in the Cat McCanary is that she had tried out in 1939 for another film and lost to Vivian Leigh and that film was Gone With the Wind. Yes, of course. And I don't know if I said this, George Zuko actually late in life his wife drove into the office or maybe the apartment of Ed Wood and he wanted it they wanted to see if Ed Wood was making a movie that he could put George Zucco. Wow that's heartbreaking. That's horrible. I think you may have mentioned that in our George Zuko episode, but it's no less sad
Starting point is 00:10:46 to hear it a second time. And then some producer or George Zuko's agent, when George Zuko was too sick to do anything, he called the producer and said, can you just call him and say you're offering him a job in a movie? He'll say no, but it'll make him feel better that people remember him. Sounds like Sunset Boulevard. It's very heart breaking. Here's a last piece of trivia before we move on.
Starting point is 00:11:15 I heard he was trained to perform Cunnilingus on Rich Women, George Rich Women. Nice callback. Yes. Because chimps back then were trained to perform carnalingus on rich Hollywood women. As previously established. True throughout the industry. According to British film historian
Starting point is 00:11:38 Phil Hardy, this film Man-Made Monster shocked the British censor enough to ban it until 1952. Oh wait wait I think I think mad monster that that the English censor they put out a warning on the film that in real life doctors are not using animal blood. Yeah it says then they then and only then they had to insist that it should be accompanied
Starting point is 00:12:05 by a disclaimer on the matter of blood transfusion. Yes! Is he amazing? Yeah! That's incredible. Dr. Gottfried. Amazing. Okay, Gil.
Starting point is 00:12:14 They should have added to that if you were that fucking stupid that you think doctors would actually use animal blood. What if I told you Columbia, a year later in 1943, no not the studio, released a vampire picture with a Lugosi that also contained a werewolf. Oh wait, wait, that was something of the vampire. Yes. It also starred Nina Foch or Nina fuck or Nina folk I never knew how she said her name yeah oh see H wait he played arm and turn return of the vampire he played Armand Tesla yes very good and it was Dracula yes but they but he couldn't call it college Dracula yeah because it wasn't made by Universal
Starting point is 00:13:03 they had a guy who was supposed to be the Wolfman but wasn't the Wolfman with a guy who kind of acted like Lon Chaney but wasn't Lon Chaney. So the whole thing's a knockoff. I kept trying to say Armand Tesla backwards or something because it sounds like Alucard. Armand Tesla. Yes, yes. How did they come up with Armand Tesla? It Yes, yes. But here was another trivia piece. Bela Lugosi was paid
Starting point is 00:13:30 $3,500 for four weeks of filming. A lot of money back then. And now check this, you guys have to fact check this. Wikipedia says this was the last time he would receive top billing from a major studio. In 43. 43 does that sound right? Yeah, what's 12 years after, good 12 years after Dracula. And, but they do have a scene where when he's got the stake in his heart or the sunlight, where you see his face melting away. So that's good. And I think they have a werewolf transformation scene.
Starting point is 00:14:06 There must be. I have never seen this. It wasn't terrible. Another case, wasn't great, but you know, wasn't that good even, but wasn't terrible. That was very precisely articulated. What a race. Yes. Return of the vampire.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Why do they call him Armand Tesla? Because he invented the radio in it. And the werewolf's name was Marconi. I'm determined to stump you with one of these. You're very good on the Legosi Cheney picture. He was Italian Marconi. Very, very good on it. You can't stump him on anything with Glenn Strange or Cheney. Maybe I get him on this one Paul This is from 19 and you know Glenn Strange I think it was it was Bob Burns who went to yeah, they were tight. Yeah, and he said You know Cheney jr. Died nobody wants to talk about him. And so Glenn Strange got out of bed, went to a station, talked about him,
Starting point is 00:15:09 and they said a few days later, he was dead. Yep, it was a great story. Yeah, Bob was very close to Glenn Strange. Yeah, he saw him as a father. Do we stump you with this one? From 1961, werewolf in a girl's dormitory. Oh, yes, that was a, was that a Guinea production I think? Very good.
Starting point is 00:15:29 An Italian horror film. Ah, see. Directed by Pualo, Palo, Huish. Right, except that the producers insisted that he go under the name Richard Benson because we will not have an Italian direct the film in this studio. But shot at Cinetita. There you go, shot in Italy and grossed. Shot in Italy.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Grossed one hundred and fifteen million Italian lira. And about that. And I think that come out to it was one of those they could appeal to guys in the audience, not just with a monster, but with pretty girls and dormitory sounds really hot. The American version of the film added the rock song, The Ghoul in School to the opening credits. So I'm not going to say this is I'm not going to defend this. Werewolf in a girl's dormitory.
Starting point is 00:16:18 And I'm not sure if I ever saw it or just saw stills and famous monsters. Oh, you saw it. I'm sure you saw it. I'm sure I did. The German actor Kurt Lowens plays the werewolf. Oh geez. In the film, does that mean anything to you? Yeah, he's good. Oh he's good? Yes. I think so he wouldn't be hung for war crimes. He was punished by starring in this. I see. It was this or the Nuremberg trial. What about this one? And in the middle of filming he said, is it too late to get on the Nuremberg trial?
Starting point is 00:16:54 We will return to Gilbert Gottfried's Amazing Colossal podcast after this. What if I had, what if I told you I had a Lon Chaney Jr. one for you? Oh excellent! Oh this is probably the Mexican one. Very good! What's the title? Was it Castle of Horror? No.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Or Castle of Terror? You are so close. Paul, should we help him out? Yeah, I don't have this one. La Casa del Terror, but it was released under the title the face of the screaming werewolf And I remember what I remember best about this movie there's a transformation scene Yeah, that's you know a good mummified were
Starting point is 00:17:42 It's like and it's probably because, you know, Cheney was older now and his drinking was certainly, He passed not long after this, right? Yeah, yeah. This is 65. So he was already, you know, years of alcohol. Cause I remember seeing the werewolf, when he turns into the werewolf, I go, wow,
Starting point is 00:18:04 he's got a big nose. Well, what actually happened is an American filmmaker, a low budget filmmaker named Jerry Warren combined parts of two unrelated Mexican horror films, which they did in those days. La Mommia Azteca, I assume means the Aztec mummy, and your guess, La Casa del Terror. Oh, well, you know something? He appears as the mummy. I think they open up the coffin or what do they call that? The sarcophagus. The sarcophagus, which Raybone is suffering. It's been sarcophagus.
Starting point is 00:18:43 And he's the mummy, but he's got his faces like melting and blogged. It sounds right. And that's where the face of the screaming werewolf comes from. And then they unwrap him and I guess he was a mummified werewolf. Would you like to know the actual plot? A psychic woman named Ann Taylor regresses to a former life through hypnosis. She leads archaeologists into a pyramid where they discover a tomb of two mummies. One who turns out to be a mummified Caucasian werewolf. That was a classic book, A Tale of Two
Starting point is 00:19:16 Mummies. Yeah, but Dorothy has two mummies. Yes. I think it was. From a few years ago, very progressive. The other was a mummified ancient Aztec warrior and a mad doctor played by Yorvay Beirut kidnaps the mummy slash werewolf to his lab and manages to revive him when the unwrapped creature transforms into a snarling werewolf. Oh my god. Yes. But you knew it! That's what's amazing. I just said Lon Chaney Jr. he knew it was Mexican. Yes. Based on a true story. Based on a true story. What did you find Paul on the face of the screaming werewolf? I didn't find much, but I was interested to move on to another one here.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Uh huh. If you want to go to... We may have jumped over that one. Well, how about the one with Michael Landon? Yeah, Gil, what's your take on I Was a Teenage Werewolf? I Was a Teenage Werewolf. Made by Samuel Arkoff. Oh yes, and certainly I'm a fan of Arkoff, so I gotta give it extra points.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Me too. And then Landon, I like. So it's one of those movies that know it's not good. The transformation scenes aren't bad. I watched some clips of it today. Yeah, so those are good. And it made Landon. It made his career. Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:35 He got Bonanza a couple years later. What did you find on that? I've run down the budget again. On this one, a budget of $82,000 and it grossed $2 million. Made money. So that's not bad. Profitable movie. And would you invest $82,000 to make $2 million?
Starting point is 00:20:51 Absolutely. And it spawned those, those Teen Wolf movies, the, the Michael J Fox and the Jason Bateman Teen Wolf movies are sort of, sort of homages to, to I was a teenage werewolf. The teenage werewolf and teenage Frankenstein both pop up in, what is it called, the Monster Maker? Or... Oh, I know the one you mean.
Starting point is 00:21:13 The one that's about the... The one with, is the character based on Jack Pierce? Yes, yes. He's a disgraced... I think it's called the Monster Maker. Yeah, he's a disgraced movie maker. Oh, How to Make a Monster. Yes, that's it, that's it.
Starting point is 00:21:28 AIP from 58. Was that Whit Bissell? Yeah, I think Whit, well Whit Bissell's in Teenage Werewolf. He's the mad scientist. This one was made in 58, How to Make a Monster is the one you're thinking of, with Robert Shane, Inspector Henderson. Oh, wow!
Starting point is 00:21:46 So I was gonna read that on a card of other oddities, but you jumped me again. Geez! You knew that one, How to Make a Monster, 1958. If it's monster shit, I know it. What about She-Wolf of London from 1946, which was a Universal production, with June Lockhart? Oh my god. Was the were-woman. She was a Universal production with June Lockhart was the were-woman. Now that one also seems like one I'm sure I saw it. You did with Don Porter.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Yes I'm sure I saw it. I'm sure I saw it. But all I can remember really now is in you know photos I saw in Monster Maggots. Okay what about Hammer Productions I know you're not a Hammer fan but in 61 they put out Curse of the Werewolf. With Oliver Reed. Which is actually purported to be a good picture. When was that? What year was that? 61. 61. Yeah. I don't know. They did. They don't care for that one. They spent too much time on what made him a werewolf.
Starting point is 00:22:51 And it was like ridiculously exaggerated. Like there's a wedding, like the king is getting married and they bring in a drunk and the drunk insults the king and the king locks him up into a dungeon and in the dungeon he escapes and all the other madmen escape and they rape this one girl and then she's putting a dungeon and beaten out for years and her son's a werewolf and you go just just have him get fucking bitten by a wolf. Just get to the throat ripping. Yeah. That's what you want. You want the werewolf scenes. You don't want all that exposition. Yeah. People like that picture directed by Terrence Fisher who made a lot of hammer
Starting point is 00:23:39 pictures a lot of classic camera pictures. What if I said to you Gilbert He did pictures about hammers. What if I asked you if David Jansen of Fugitive Fame ever played a werewolf? Holy fuck. David Jansen. I cheated a little bit because it's a TV movie and it's called Moon of the Wolf with Bradford Dillman. Oh, that title sounds familiar.
Starting point is 00:24:04 And it's about a werewolf in the Louisiana bayou. And it was directed by Daniel Petrie. Wow. How about that? This one I'm a little stumped by. You're a little stumped by that one? Made for TV movie, 1972. We'll see what our listeners have on this one.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Oh, they're screaming right now. They'll write in. This one is just to make Paul laugh. There's one from 72 called Dr. Jekyll and Ombre Loco. I want to watch that right now. I don't know anything about it. Apparently there's a werewolf in it. Oh, but you want to know a great, a great urban legend about David Janssen.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Oh, is that he's the son of Clark Gable? Yeah, but not real. Yeah. Yeah. But that was a great one. Yeah. Gil, Drew tried to convince me for years that Larry Storch was the brother of, oh, who was it?
Starting point is 00:25:01 Some famous comic. Oh, I'm going to screw this up. Uh, I'll think of it, But of course they weren't related. He comes up with some weird ones. Yeah, he makes them up like he said to me very seriously that Eddie Cantor and Schimp from the three studios Were having a homosexual effect like is one about Clark Gable and who was it? Oh, Clark Gable and Andy Devine.
Starting point is 00:25:31 He makes them up. Which I say that one is so good, I say it's true. Yeah. I don't need any proof. Clark Gable and Andy Devine fucking each other and then- Also the James Comack from Chico and the Man fame was the illegitimate son of Uncle Miltie. Oh yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Which is another thing he claims. Drew, if you're listening, we're coming for you. And he said that, well this they were friends and they knew each other, but he says that Lon Chaney Jr. and Broderick Crawford would at the studio dress up in women's clothes. Now that one I believe. That one sounds good. It would definitely make a good TV movie of the week. We'll have to do a whole mini episode with Drew about all of these rumors.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Yes. We'll just have Drew come in and bullshit us. His are always very disturbing. Always disturbing and juicy. What about from 1972 also, the rats are coming, the werewolves are here. The title I know. I know the title.
Starting point is 00:26:37 And finally, from 1975, and these are just- Who was in The Rats Are Coming? I couldn't tell you. Write it down. Or maybe you just don't want to tell leave old man No rats were harmed no rats were harmed maybe some werewolves in 75 this last oddity I have on my card here the werewolf of Woodstock Starring Michael Parks. Oh Yes, and produced by Dick Clark Doesn Doesn't that kind of blow your mind?
Starting point is 00:27:08 Sure. Woodstock is that kind of place. I think I saw Michael Parks at one of the last of the... He was at the Chiller convention. Yes, I saw him. He passed away. And, oh, he... Well, we were going to book him on the show, but he wasn't in very good shape.
Starting point is 00:27:23 No. And then he passed away. and he looked terrible there. I'll ask you about this last I never saw wolf the Nicholson picture. Yes with James Spader and Michelle Pfeiffer. Yes. Yeah any good it's it's it's a Mixed reviews at best. Yeah, they they could have shortened it It's got some parts that are OK, but it's by no stretch a classic. And what about to just see the Benicio del Toro remake of the Wolfman? Yes, yes. And what's your verdict on that? That one. OK, well, getting back to.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Oh, in Wolf, Jack Nicholson. Jack Nicholson's makeup was very much like Henry Hull's makeup. Was it Rick Baker, I think? Yeah, I think so. But it was very much like Henry Hull's makeup in Werewolf of London. Interesting. Because he had like a toned down, like big sideburns and the teeth. I never saw it, it was supposed to be sort of a satire, right?
Starting point is 00:28:23 Yeah. Not a straight werewolf movie. Yeah. And you know, it's got parts that are okay. It's not great by any stretch. And the remake of the Wolfman in 2010? Okay, that was one I'll say, I'll give it a generous passable.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Okay. He's a stern critic. Yeah. He's harsh. Yeah. I mean, it won't match up to the original Wolfman, but you know, it was a nice try. Okay. I love the description in IMDB, the plot of the Wolfman, upon return to homeland, American
Starting point is 00:29:00 man is bitten and cursed by a werewolf. That's it. Isn't that, that's every, that's every. Yes, yes, yes. Pretty much. Oh, here's my favorite description of a movie. On TV, they had on this Charles Bronson movie, Murphy's Law, and him and Kathleen Wilhoyt, I think was, I started to say that like Johnny
Starting point is 00:29:23 Carson. Ooh, Katherine Wilhoyt. Hey-o! I think. I started to say that like Johnny Carson. And it says, police detect, I wrongly accuse police detective goes on the run with a rude girl. That's a great description. Fantastic. rude girl During the movie she's saying to Bronson hey dog breath so she was rude that's rude So she was very rude you lift up to its synopsis Two wolf movies I kind of like and they're both strange werewolf movies
Starting point is 00:30:00 They're on the fringe of being werewolf movies. What is Neil Jordan's the company of wolves? That's like kind of like a fairy tale. It's like a little Red Riding Hood take. Yeah, I recommend it with David Warner, who we love, Terrence Stamp, and Angela Lansbury. It's kind of a kinky revisionist take on Red Riding Hood. And I don't know if you've ever seen Albert Finney and Gregory Hines in Wolfen From the 80s. Which I kind of like. And I think it was produced by Alan King. That is correct. Yes. And Rupert Hitzig, his former partner.
Starting point is 00:30:32 And because Albert Finney, as he proved in whatever that Julia Roberts movie was. Eric Brockovich. Eric Brockovich. Eric Brockovich. Eric Brockovich. Eric Brockovich. Yeah. Aaron. He doesn't do the most convincing American accent.
Starting point is 00:30:53 No. He doesn't bother sometimes. So they wrote into the movie, into Wolfman. Wolfman. Wolfman. Wolfman is the Jewish. Wolfman. The Jewish fan, the Jewish werewolf.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Wolfman. The Wolfman. the Jewish, the Jewish, the Jewish werewolf. Wolfman. The wolfman. They wrote into it that they wrote in a line like, oh, they used to call me the limey. He didn't say he was from England, but limey is a term for England. To cover the bad accent. Yes. Okay. But I love his accent in Brockovich because there it's like he's a Southern.
Starting point is 00:31:29 I love Albert Finney in anything. Yeah, because then he's like, Well, Aaron, I'm sending you on an important assignment. And you go, oh, good job. You're making him sound like Dub Taylor. Yes. So we recommend Wolf and Company of Wolves. Gilbert says some of those bad werewolf movies
Starting point is 00:31:53 aren't so bad. And also, just for personal reasons. None of them are great. None of them are even respectable. Well, good. Yeah. Then we lift up to the title of this episode. They're all like kind of like you know teenage, passable if you like, a
Starting point is 00:32:10 dopey movie and wolf by no stretch great. And for personal reasons I will recommend the great Larry Cohen, our former podcast, directed a comedy called Full Moon High and I'm only going to recommend it because of the cast Adam Arkin Kenneth Mars Pinky Tuscadero. Oh wow Pat Morita Louis Nye Ed McMahon. Oh, you just impersonated DeMond Wilson and of course our friend Bob Saget See now that I have to see Full Moon moon high, Larry Cohen. And Larry Cohen, he was... We gotta get him back here. He was a piece of work. You know, most of our guests,
Starting point is 00:32:49 you know, after like an hour, hour and a half, they start, you know, they get tired of sitting, talking, all that. He would have gone on. If we let him, he would have been talking now. If we left, he would have kept doing the show. Yes! We love Larry.
Starting point is 00:33:04 I'm sure he's got many more stories in him so we'll have him back. And he's another one of those guys who when you listen to him you think he's wonderfully full of shit. He's great! He's what this podcast is all about. So that my friend. He was terrific. That wraps, excuse me, Bad Werewolf movies. Thank you for your help, Paulie. Could I add one little tidbit? Quickly as we're out of time. We're out of time. We saw the new Halloween this week,
Starting point is 00:33:29 and I highly recommend it. Do you? It's much better than it had to be. Okay. So check it out and tweet us and let us know what you think. All right, on your say so. Gilly, shall you take us out? Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:33:43 This has been... Yeah. Okay. It's the face of the screaming werewolf. Shall you take us out? Oh, okay. This has been... Yeah? Okay. The face of the screaming werewolf. What has this been? Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. Let me just remember one thing. Even a man who is full of heart and says his prayers by night
Starting point is 00:34:07 may become a wolf when the wolfbam blooms and the autumn moon is bright. This has been Gilbert and Frank's amazing colossal obsession with bad werewolf movies. Maria's starting to sound a little like Hervé. Yeah. Those obsessions were truly amazing. I'm the werewolf! Oh no! Run for your lives!
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