Gilbert Gottfried's Amazing Colossal Podcast - Bobby Slayton

Episode Date: May 22, 2025

GGACP celebrates the birthday of the legendary “Pit Bull of Comedy” — actor, comic and horror movie aficionado Bobby Slayton (b. May 25) by revisiting this interview from back in 2016. In this episode, Bobby sits down with Gilbert and Frank for a funny and freewheeling discussion of a number of essential topics, including the brilliance of Ray Harryhausen, the tragedy of Bela Lugosi, the haunting of Sammy Davis, Jr. and the greatness of “Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein.” Also, Bobby roasts Hal Roach, hangs with Buddy Hackett, breaks bread with Woody Allen and “becomes” Joey Bishop. PLUS: Una O’Connor! “The Adventures of Ford Fairlane”! The return of Rondo Hatton! Bobby meets Otis the Drunk! And the death of Louie Dumbrowski! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Colossal Classic Hi, this is Gilbert Gottfried and this is Gilbert Gottfried's amazing colossal podcast. I'm here with my co-host Frank Santopadre and we're once again at Nutmeg Post with the engineer Frank Verderosa. Our guest this week is a stand-up comedian, an actor, and voiceover artist, and possibly the only guest we've had on this show who's as obsessed with old horror movies as yours truly. He's appeared in films like Ed Wood, Get Shorty, Bandits, and played Joey Bishop in HBO's Rat Pack movie. TV roles include Duckman, Home Improvement,

and Family Guy, and he does the best Hunts Hall in the business. Welcome to the pitbull of comedy our pal Bobby Slater. You know thank you very much. You know the Hunts Hall thing, you know it's very funny, was that when I read for Ed Wood, you know, I wanted to do that movie so badly because like you I'm a tremendous horror movie fan. Now when I say horror movies, you know, not the new stuff as much. I mean I think the last great horror movie I loved was Nightmare on Elm Street. I'm talking about the old Universal stuff and the old, you know, the Valuet and stuff and the Catwoman stuff and I walk with the zombie and then Edward, who had a special

place in all our hearts because you and I, and I think Frank too, we grew up with Chiller Theatre back in the 60s and 70s. Well, you're a local kid from Scarsdale. I'm from Scarsdale. Born in the Bronx. No, born in New York City. Lived in the Bronx size too. Then grew up in Scarsdale.

Chilla Theater had that monster hand with the six fingers coming out of the mic. Chilla! Chilla. And then what it also had was, and when you're 10 years old, because you and I, Gilbert, are pretty much the same age, when you watch Plan 9 from Outer Space, which now everybody knows is horrible, but it's a cult classic. But when you're 10 years old, and my parents would leave me to babysit my two younger brothers, and I would be watching Chiller, and the lights are out in the house, and even though my parents

are two blocks away playing Mahjong, and you see Vampira walking at you. You remember? Oh yes, yes. From Plan I. So that movie scared the hell out of me. And they had like this gorilla. It was like a collage and one was a gorilla. They had Attack of the Fifty Foot Woman. Harry!

And I remember with that, you know, phony looking guy in a gorilla suit with the vampire. And what I remember is my mother had a big coat. I think it was like, what was those old style coats? The gorilla coats? Yeah. Like a big mink or something? Yeah, not a mink. Vicuna? Yeah, no, it was a or something. Yeah, not a mink. Vy'Kuna? Yeah, I know it was a cheap

She would never have a mink, but she had a big coat. That's where he got it from. And I used to put that coat on and pretend I was the gorilla in that chill at the end. Robot monster. Robot monster. There was a gorilla costume with a What about Monster? There was a gorilla costume with an astronaut head. Oh yes, yes, and a bubble machine. Right, right. So anyway, so Ed Wood, when I heard they were making a movie called Ed Wood, I was actually in a hotel in Sacramento. I was playing the punch line. And I'm reading this book, Nightmare in Ecstasy.

And I go, I have to read for this movie. So I have to read for this movie so I go to read for the movie and my part I knew you know about Bellagos he did of his career when he's doing all those horrible movies they had the morphine addiction he you know he screwed up I think it was on the Milton Berle show yeah I was gonna say that number of study was and he couldn't follow it but he also did the art link letter show and he did the Red Skelting show. So what the writers told me was my character was a composite of all these guys.

And I'm playing the befuddled moron in a hat character. Larry and Scott, who we had on the show. Right. Oh, yeah. OK. Those guys were. So I'm going to be befuddled moron in a hat. So I'm thinking of Clem Cuddlehopper.

Even as a kid, I hated Clem Cuddlehopper. I never found him funny. Yeah, you know what's so what's so weird is that I was the same way like I felt like I had to respect Red Skelton, but I never really laughed at Red Skelton. Never. And I saw him years later at Caesar's Tahoe, because I was doing, I was playing the comedy club up there, and I saw him and he's red skeleton. You know, he's a legend like Milton Berle. We all know Milton Berle was an asshole, but he's still Milton Berle. Yes. Okay. And you gotta respect the guy even though he's an asshole. And we'll get to Joey Bishop in a second. Sure. So anyway, I see the part that says, be funnel moron in a hat, and there's no way that I'm going gonna go read for Tim Burton and do Clem Kediddlehopper. So I got a Hunts Hall hat and then Louis, oh hi ya fellas,

Mignolet Walton, oh hi ya Dracula, whatever. So I did that and I said if I don't get the part, I don't get the part but I'm not gonna go in there and do Clem Kediddlehopper. I'm gonna do Satch and I got the part. So that was my big claim to fame. But here's what was amazing about the movie Ed Wood. Oh, but before I go on, do you know that Leo Gorsy was Jewish? His mother was Irish, his father was Jewish. Bernard Gorsy. Bernard Gorsy was a soda fountain. Yeah. Yeah, Louie Louie Louie the broski Louie the broski and he was killed You know he's hit by a car and after that Leo just fell apart. You know, there's a famous I never saw it. I don't know if it's available anywhere. You ever see Leo Garcia on you know, he's on the Tonight Show Johnny Carson Oh, I think I did. Yeah, it's gotta be out there somewhere

You know and and but I I know like when his father his father died in 55 in a car crash Right and and yeah, he never got over it. I was born in the water. My parents were so sad of my birth Yeah, was all about Louis. Yeah, he just he didn't care about anything He was continued working, but he just didn't he's gonna point out everybody who was Jewish I feel like he's pointing at me. He's old he's Jewish he works, but he didn't care anymore. He's going to point out everybody who was Jewish, just so you have a heads up. I feel like he's pointing at me. He's old, he's Jewish, he works, but he doesn't care. He was an alcoholic. This is me Gilbert.

I'm one of those people. I'm that guy. I don't care. So basically he was actually a Jew whether you lost your father or not. He didn't care. But here, here was the great, because I know you guys love showbiz stories, here was the great thing about shooting Ed Wood and why Tim Burton is such a genius. And after Ed Wood was shot, Leo Gorsi never got over.

He never got over that either. He had a tough first time with me. But Plan 9 from Out of Space, you know, we did a scene. So we do that scene. And Martin Landau is Dracula. And I'm playing the Befuddimora in a hat, and I'm ad libbing, I'm being Milton Berle. So as you know, because you've done a lot of movies, it takes days to shoot five minutes.

Oh, yeah. So I have no patience. I can't sit in my little trailer, which is half the size of the studio. So I'm walking around. They're shooting at wood in these nondescript little old buildings in the west side of studio. So I'm walking around. They're shooting at wood in these nondescript little old buildings in the west side of LA. So I'm walking around and I walk into the one room

where they're about to shoot that scene with Legosi, Glendr Glenda. I met a man, a man, what a man, with the shrunken heads, remember sitting there in that chair? And after they shot the scene, I'm saying to myself, God, I wanna take one of those shrunken heads. And I'm such a good guy, I couldn't steal it.

But here was the best part. First day I'm there. I was only on the movie for three days. I walk over to where they're recreating the graveyard scene where Tori Johnson comes out of the grave. Okay. They're recreating it. I'm watching these guys.

And there's union guys doing storyboards. And they're making those little cardboard crosses. And they're making the graves and the trees. And I come back the next day, they're still working on it. That must have taken them, it must have cost them a million dollars to do this. It probably cost Ed Wood $35 to do this whole thing. It probably cost to feed these union guys lunch,

these teamsters, more money than the entire budget of Ed Wood put together. George the Animal Steal steals Swedish lessons. Exactly. Now, the wrestler in that, was that his voice? I don't remember. I didn't work with that guy. I heard he took Swedish lessons to sound like Thor. Yeah?

But I don't know if they dubbed him. He isn't sure if that was his voice or not. Don't know. We'll ask Scott and Larry. But you know what's great? The three days that I'm working on that movie This is such a thrill for me And you know when you work on a film or you get to meet people in showbiz you grew up with it You love so there's Martin Landau and he's in his Dracula costume

And he doesn't want to sit in his trailer and Johnny Depp could not have been a nice guy and Johnny Doesn't want to sit in his trailer So me and Johnny are sitting there and Martin Landau dressed up by Dracula is Telling us all these stories about Hitchcock because he worked on North by North. Wow. Classic, one of the greatest movies of all time. And he's talking about all these films he worked on. He's talking about Mission Impossible.

And then after about an hour I brought up, and by the way, you were also in, The Harlem Globetrotters go to Gilligan's Island. Which he was. And Jesse was. And he goes, well, yeah, I did that too. With Barbara Bain. Yeah. But he actually was in that.

But Johnny Depp was so cool that, you know, my daughter wanted to come to the set. My daughter was about five, ten at the time, whatever. She wanted to come to the set to meet Edward Scissorhands, you know, in your youth children. And you know, when kids are little, you're not sure if maybe they're autistic because they watch the same crap over and over and over again. They go back and forth and you're like, I'm not sure if my kid, you know not sure if maybe they're artistic because they watch the same crap over and over and over again. They go back and forth and I'm not sure if my kid, you know, they like to watch the same movies and the same TV shows. My daughter watched Edward Scissorhands 30 times. So now I'm doing this movie Edward with Edward Scissorhands and my daughter goes,

daddy, I have to go meet him. And I take her to the set and I swear to God on my wife's life, so if I'm lying, I still win. I take my daughter to the set and I swear to God on my wife's life so if I'm lying I still win I take my daughter I take my daughter to the set and she meets Johnny and he could not have been a more of a gentleman and she says to me he looks nothing like Edwards his hand Johnny goes to his trailer he had one of the gloves he was actually doing a photo shoot that week and he came out with the gloves and he said yeah yeah you want a haircut kid you want want a haircut? And he says, chasing my daughter and she's screaming. That's when you needed cell phones with cameras because it was a moment that I just... You didn't get a shot.

I didn't get it. But I showed you, I got a shot of Robert Englund. That's a good one. We'll put it up on social media. Yeah, that was a great one. A shot of you and your daughter and Robert Englund. Yeah, I worked with Robert in The Adventures of Ford Fairlane. Oh my God, the movie that you got my part.

Yes. How did he get your part? Well, I thought it was Howard Stern's part, but he didn't want it. You know what, I forgot about that. Well, Gilbert should have got it. No, but I don't get very many movies and everything I read for, I'm talking about this in my book, which I'm not going to plug now because it's not done, but it's basically called 40 Years of Showbiz Hell because I've come so

close to getting so many things and Three times again not exaggerating on my wife's life. Once again, I lost at least twice. I'm exaggerating I lost a part to two big fat black guys now When I lose a part to you I'm going okay, he's a short psychotic Jew He's different than me, but we're close enough. We're all, God damn it. But a big fat black guy. Johnny Brown from Good Times beat you out of.

They went a whole different way. But the Fort Fairlight part, you played the disc jockey, right? Oh yes. Yeah. I've lost a few parts to you. But the one thing, you do a lot of voiceover work. I was, do you remember, I asked you this before we started the show, did you ever remember reading for the part of the Pink Panther when they made him talk?

No, I never, I don't think I ever read for that. So there's one you didn't lose to him, Bob. Tell us about that. I will tell you, Frank, that the Pink Panther, you know, never spoke, as we know. So they did, right after Roger Rabbit came out, which at the time was groundbreaking animation with live action, I mean, Uncle Remus, and they did, of course, Gene Kelly, dancing with, you know, they'd done it before,

but when Roger Rabbit came out, it was really, they took it to another level, and when people are interacting with the animated character. So MGM, CBS came up with this show. Oh, I remember this. You do remember this? Yeah, in the 90s, a guy named Kelly Ward was the guy that developed the show. Oh, I remember this. You do remember this? Yeah, and the night, this guy named Kelly Ward was the guy that developed the show.

But it was never shown. It was never shown. Hey, I'm getting a mental block now. What? My character's name in Fort Fairlane, Johnny. Oh, you got me. Oh, God. Wow.

It should have been Johnny Slayton just to put another, to twist the knife in my back a little bit more. Oh, God, now this is horrible. Our researcher will look it up. But back to the panther. And the ill-advised idea to have the pink panther speak. He reminds me of my wife when we both have orgasm. Did you feed the dog?

I know. And the big crescendo of my not really a good story to begin with, Gilbert has to come in and get back to him. Like it's his show. He sensed it was a story that wasn't going anywhere. Now anyway. Wait, this is horrible. What's my character, Johnny? Dara's looking it up.

Ford Fairlane. The part that I should have had, Dara. Look that up. Johnny Crunch. Johnny Crunch! Oh my god, now you bring up what? Hit pay dirt with K-dirt. You know, Gilbert, you're killing me me because I remember paying an acting coach $200 I remember getting it to becoming Johnny crunch I became the character an acting coach

just I think those acting coaches are like the biggest fucking scam I think we want you saying you paid for anything Just you paid yeah that right there he's freaking out You paid for an acting coach to get it to get you a shot at a part in Ford Fairlane that Gilbert got yeah, and I didn't pay and got the part I know Listen to me We have some salt I get a little cut right here. Can you bring some salt into the studio? Much like me. You don't like hammer films so much. Oh, let's get back to monsters. You know, that's sacrilegious to real monster people. Yeah.

I don't, okay, now you and I, like I said, we grew up with Chiller Theater, million dollar movie, which we have the giant behemoth Mothra you know it came from beneath the sea all that Harryhausen stuff which by the way we talked about that Harryhausen he was a god you know he was a I know Willis O'Brien and Marcel Dalgatta before that but basically Harryhausen with us one of the greatest things in the history of film is well Harry Hausen was I think a disciple of Willis O'Brien. I believe that's true. Mighty Joe Young they worked together and Marcel Delgado who did a lot of the silent

film stuff and Willis O'Brien in the lost world but what Harry Howson did it's almost like the Rolling Stones yeah you took from Chuck Berry and yeah you took from Robert Johnson but you took it to another level and you're better than them. But if it wasn't for them, you wouldn't be where you are. But you know what Ray Harryhausen did, I think the three of us will agree on one thing. The skeletons in Jason and I. Oh, yeah. Terrifying. There's not only terrifying.

But to do that, Gilbert and I, and I'm speaking for Gilbert right now. I don't think we could sit for more than 10 minutes on one conversation. Can you imagine sitting in your garage with 30 skeletons that are falling apart under a hot lamp with your wife yelling, it's time for dinner! And trying to get this done? Fighting? In search of a segue. Now, I heard in that remake of The Lost World with Claude Rains. They did the remake of the Lost World. And it was in color, like technicolor.

And I think Pat Boone may have been in it. I remember Pat Boone in Journey to the Center of the Earth. Oh, maybe that's it. Yeah, maybe that's it. Yeah, maybe that's it. Wait, wait, wait. Was that with the Rat Bat Spider? Or the Sagittarius and the Spider? Yeah, but the remake of The Lost World with Claude Rains as the professor, which was awful,

and I heard that they hired Willis O'Brien for it. He was looking forward to doing it. Like now he'd have all the money to do the stuff he really wanted. And they basically just wanted his name there. And they put in those fucking filmed lizards. Oh, yeah. I hated that.

That was horrible. I hate, as a little kid, I'd get mad when they'd have like a little lizard. Salamanders, and they put a little thing on his neck like it was a velociraptor. They taped it on. But they did that in The Lost World. They did the same crap. It was awful, you know? And then you get the Coramand movies.

You get the Teenage Caveman with Robert Vaughn. No, but in the original Silent Lost World they were doing stop action. That was amazing. Was that Willis? That was Willis O'Brien in Amazing. But Harry Houser, when he did that stuff and to this day I will still watch it and... You even like the latter day Harry Houser, like the Clash of the Titans? No, no, no. I didn't like the movies but I like what he redid and he did you know all that His animation was just so cool And I still you know when they started doing the mummy with a you know with the with all the thousand mummies and that computer

Animation crap yeah, but when I moved to San Francisco I started doing stand-up when I was I moved there when I was 21 back in the 70s And I wanted to see all these things in San Francisco want to see hey, Dashbury The first thing I wanted to see was the ferry building with the octopus and it came from beneath the sea. Oh yeah. And his arm went down. Markistry. Fast forward 30 years later, I take my daughter, Natasha, she's five years old. I take her to New York. We go to the Empire State Building. She says

to me, daddy, where did King Kong, which side did he walk up? Which side of the building did King Kong walk up? And I said, this is my daughter. That's your kid. You know, I turned my daughter into so many horror movies. I don't know. I'm sure you've tried to do it with your children. Oh, yeah. Has your wife stopped you at all? My proudest moment with my son was he was watching The Three Stooges, and I think he was like four or five at the time. He's watching The Three Stooges, and very seriously he says, Shemp looks like Lon Chaney Jr.

and the Wolfman. How great is that? And I thought, you don't need any DNA testing. Okay. After that, that's my kid. The greatest thing my daughter ever said, actually she was probably five or six years old, and I actually tried to put it in my act, but nobody would laugh at this but you two, my daughter was watching King Kong for the tenth time, and my daughter says to me,

Daddy, why would they take a gorilla back from Skull Island when you can get a dinosaur? I've seen gorillas! How great is that of a line? That is perfect. And then I said, you know, why would you take a gorilla back? I mean, look, if you found out that there was a 50-foot gorilla or a brontosaurus or a T-Rex, and then I said, well, you know, a T-Rex can't walk up the Empire State Building, there'd be no story. I mean, if you're really going to sit and reason this moronic conversation out, but the fact that she said that,

and you know what scared her more than anything? Me and Frank were talking about this the other day, the house on Haunted Hill with Vincent Price, Roger Cormack. Right, right, there wasn't a emerjo where they would bring the, I think that was- That was the tingler they did. No, the tingler was in, that was the one where they wired the seats.

The tingler was the buzzer under the seat. The buzzer. Emerjo was when they had the ghost that came out on the clothesline. Well, that was before our time. Right. Well, I read about that. They did it at the film where they wired the seats. Tila, that was the buzzer under the seat. The buzzer. The merger was when they had the ghost that came out on the clothesline. That was before our time. Right. Well, I read about that. They did it at the film forum about 10 years ago.

You hear about that in Famous Monsters. You'd read about that. Oh, yes. Speaking of your son, tell Bobby what happened when Max met Sarah Karloff at the convention. We were, I was doing like a convention and Sarah Karloff was there at the convention. I was visiting one of these conventions. Sarah Karloff was there, Boris's daughter. And you know, it was all like pictures of him as the Frankenstein monster.

And I said to my son, who was like about three or four, I said, oh, this is Boris Karloff's daughter. And he looked at the Frankenstein patron, goes, you don't look like your father. That's great. That's great. You know, the fact you guys are horror fans, you know, I showed you before we went on, you know, I have a picture on my phone, a phone case of Karloff

from the original Frankenstein. I'd you before we went on, you know, I have a picture on my phone, a phone case of Karloff from the original Frankenstein. I'd also like to point out to our listeners that you're sitting here in a Rondo hat and t-shirt. Oh yeah, by the way, this t-shirt I've not worn since I went to a Chiller convention in New Jersey, maybe 10 years ago, where I bought an original Basil Go-Go's painting, a chalk drawing, a charcoal drawing of the creature, which is still to this day my most prized possession.

And if you don't know Rondo Hatton, the most recent movie would be The Rocketeer. Where they made up a guy to look like Rondo Hatton, who died of acromegaly. Well, Mickey Dolan's his mother. Remember we had him on and he said his mother look like Rondo Hatton, who died of acromegaly. Well, Mickey Dolan's his mother. Remember we had him on and he said his mother worked with Rondo Hatton? Oh, yes, yes.

His mother was an actress. I can't remember what film. That's why Mickey has that big chin. Right. And now she's slumping Leno. Here's a story I heard, that the English guy from the Jeffersons. Oh, Paul Benedict.

Yes. I heard he was doing a play or something and a doctor came up to him afterwards and said, I was watching you in the play and he figures he wants an autograph and he goes, I think you may have acromegaly. Yeah, we've told that on the show. Yeah, yeah. It's true. Because he had like a long face and big hands and all that stuff.

A long face, maybe he was just sad. Maybe he didn't like the play. That was too obvious, I'm sorry. A guy with acromegal, he walks into a bar and the bar says, why the long face? And by the way, can you imagine if Gilbert wasn't drunk how great the show would be? By the way, I really, when I wore this shirt and I said to both of you and I insulted you, I go, you know what this is? You couldn't have said Rondo Haddon, Alice Cooper, the same way.

I wore this years ago when I met Alice because I'm a big Alice Cooper fan And I want as soon as I walk back stage rather I had the creeper right you know You're not gonna get that from a lot of women are I gonna know oh yeah You know Ron Dohatton from a Drew Friedman strip now is another another guy. I want to get on this show There's a guy from Metallica Kirk Hammett yeah, oh my god. He Kirk Hammett? Kirk Hammett. Oh my god. He's supposed to be a monster freak. Oh my god.

He's got, you knew you should have on, he lives in LA. Ron Borst. You know Ron Borst? You must know. Ron Borst was friends with Forie Ackerman, you know famous. And Ron has the complete, he has a store store Hollywood Book & Poster But there's two stores. Yeah, I think it's Hollywood Hollywood Book & Poster I used to buy posters from him back in the 70s and I used to buy a lot of horror movie posters and I bought a plan I from outer space like $20

I remember paying like $50 for attacking the 50 and how much did you pay that acting coach? the fifty and how much did you pay that acting coach? It's one of us. For the part you didn't get. And it wasn't, I just wanted to get. I just want to keep bringing that up. And the funny thing was I'm not sure the part even paid as much as I paid that acting. For my Johnny Crunch part that I didn't pay a dime for and you paid two hundred dollars. It might have only been a hundred.

To an acting. It does, I don't remember. He'll never let me forget this. No. We will return to Gilbert Gottfried's amazing colossal podcast after this. Hi there, I'm Ryan Reynolds and I have a list of things I like to have on set. It's just little things like two freshly cracked eggs scrambled with crispy hash browns, sausage, crumble, and creamy chipotle sauce from Tim Horton's. From my rider to Tim's menu, try my new scrambled eggs loaded breakfast box. Wendy's most important deal of the day has a fresh lineup.

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Hey, and one thing, another thing we have in common is we both love Abba and Costello Meet Frankenstein. The greatest movie. I data carve it to you, favorite movie of all time. The greatest movie, that's one movie I watched with my daughter. Do your kids watch that a lot? No, I don't think they've seen it yet. I have to show that to them. Bob made an argument yesterday on the phone that it's the greatest American film.

Of all time. Yeah. It's my favorite movie of all time. Abbott and Costello means Frankenstein. I mean, look, we all love Abbott and Costello. First of all, tell me a better Abbott and Costello movie than that. No. No.

I like The Time of Their Lives. You know, Time of Lives is great when you couldn't walk through the door. Yeah, I like that one because it's sweet and well made. Whisper with with or of waking up. My soup speaks for itself with Marjorie Mayne Yeah, I know I love all the... There is like see I love I laugh at Abbott the most when I watch Abbott and Costello He's totally underrated. Oh, absolutely. How funny Abbott is and there's one part where they're doing the thing where Costello is trying to explain Frankenstein and Dracula And he's like waving his arms around like Frankenstein like Dracula and Abbot at one point just goes

Okay, okay, put your hands down Abbot at one point just goes, okay, okay, put your hands down. For no reason. If you notice, he calls him Abbot instead of Chick. He goes, Abbot! Chick! And then he goes, Abbot! That's great. I never caught it.

There was a lot of, and I got to admit, I went on IMDB and I noticed, but even when I was a kid, I noticed the fact that Lugosi, Dracula, twice his reflection was in the mirror. As a kid I noticed that. You've seen it so many times you're finding the gaps. Well when he walks down the steps you see his reflection in the mirror and when he's up there with Sandra and she's about to hypnotize him and he leans in to her and they... His reflections in the mirror up there and you know the famous thing in Aberdeen consumption frankincense and the famous that there was a scene where you know

the monster, Glenn Strange had hurt his back so it was Lon Chaney, he's a monster, throwing the nurse out the window. And that's where he like kind of swings his arms back and forth. Well, Gilbert and I talked that it's actually scary for a comedy when you're a kid, when he picks up that nurse and tosses her out the window, it's scary. It's actually scary. Yeah, that scene where he throws her out the window, it was Lon Chaney Jr. It was really, really... The only thing missing in that movie is Karloff.

But it's picky, you know. If you really want to be picky, the only thing missing in this fight is Claude Reign's Invisible Man and not Vincent Price. Instead of Vincent Price. They couldn't get Claude Reign's Invisible Man? He was that busy? Was Herbert Lomb taking his job? What was he so busy doing?

Herbert Lomb. This is important. Herbert Lomb was a Jew. Oh good. Let me make a note of that. As was Peter Sellers. Well that I knew. Was Peter Sellers a Jew?

You know, in honor of Rosh Hashanah. I saw Spina Sellers. Well that I knew. Was Peter Selsinger? You know, in honor of Rosh Hashanah. By the way, I wish we could have done this at the Fryers Club. I know they were booked, but I think that would have been more distracting. I like the fact that we're in this little solitary studio. But Aberdeen Stoneman's Frankenstein, when my daughter was little, we watched this movie movie over and over and over again And the fact that Karloff didn't do it I mean it was just Glenn Strange was fine, but you know people say bartender from gun smoke yeah, but exactly exactly Yeah, exactly. He had much to do. He was on the cover of famous monsters a bunch of times

Yeah, you know and when you were a kid he was still really scared, but you know Carlos never goes yes master No, you know, that's where I think that whole Aurora Monsters thing with the arms stretched out, because Carlos never acted like that. Yeah. Gilbert's got a poster in his living room. Where it started, where it started, the outstretched arms was legosi in Frankenstein meets the Wolfman.

Oh, that was horrible. That means the Wolfman. Oh, was that horrible. Because he's supposed to be blind was originally in the story knew that yeah, it's great in Ghost of Frankenstein the monster goes blind at the end because the brain doesn't match the blood and You know and and he's Igor's brain is in the body and it's like Frankenstein you played on me a trick What good is a body without eyes to see? And so in Frankenstein meets the Wolfman the script was originally that he's blind and that's why he's walking without stretched arms. Yeah well you know he's blind the guy that wrote the script and directed it. That would

go for the real in real life. It's not good. And you know what after Son of Frankenstein I I can see what Karloff called it quits because you think the guy, first of all in the first Frankenstein movie, he got no credit, The Monster? Right, The Monster, sure. Question mark, okay. By the third movie, they put him in a big vest, probably borrowed from your mother. Oh, yes.

The vest. It was your mother's coat. Well, why do you have a vest? They found it, he had this giant, you know, like, remember that? Yeah, Karloff hated the vest. Why did he have a vest? That weird fur vest kind of thing? Yeah, that weird, why did he wear the vest?

He said they mucked him up with furs. He was like Jerry Garcia with the vest. By the way, Bride of Frankenstein is one of the few movies where just like The Godfather 2 with a sequel Oh, yeah, fantastic. Yeah, then the first one was genius. Yeah, but Bride of Frankenstein was great, but I never did really get Dr. Pretorius. I never really did get the little king. He's very freaky. Once you realized that James Whale was gay, then you understood Pretorius.

You didn't see Gods and Monsters? And you understood Uno O'Connor, too, for that matter. I liked Uno O'Connor. He came out of the window. I liked Cloris Leachman as Uno O'Connor. That was great. But there was no reason to do. Sometimes, like, Weekend of Bernie's 2 was better than Weekend of Bernie's 1.

Who doesn't like Weekend of Bernie's 2 is better than Weekend at Bernie's 1. Who doesn't like Weekend at Bernie's 2? Now you're going too far. I'm not taking away from Weekend at Bernie's 1. But 2, I'm not going to tell you about 3. That would be a spoiler alert. Hey, can you hum the music from Abed and Costello Meet Frankenstein? No, but I thought you were gonna be on the TV show. Da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da You know, I'd also say Abbot and Costello Meet Frankenstein is a better horror movie than House of Dracula that came before it.

What about John Carradine? Yeah, yeah. John Carradine, Glenn Strange and Janey. It's a better horror movie than a lot of those sequels. Oh yes. You know, you know what upset me? I can't believe people listen to this. That's why I love your audience.

I don't know. So many things. I don't know who else would even if I was on any radio show, any podcast anywhere, people go, what are these people talking about? You don't think they're talking about this shit. I could do the show every day. You're not here. You don't think other podcasts are talking about Una O'Connor and Ron Doe Patton?

No! No, but these people... And, and while, before I forget, I'm still searching for Papi Hun Susu. She was the girl in full metal jacket. Not Sassu Pitts, no. Not Sassu Pitts, no. No, no, that's the part you lost and you paid $200 to an acting coach to get and I got it and I didn't even pay for lunch.

I didn't even go to McDonald's and get an order of fries. He's trying to find the girl from Full Metal Jacket, the one that says Me So Horny. Me So Horny! Me Love Me Five Dollar. Yeah, I'm trying to find her. You know, it's so funny, that was something. I'm sorry, we love you $5. That was something that stuck in my head over the years. And I finally went to Vietnam and I wasn't married and I said, I don't really like hookers,

but I went up to one and she said, $100, $100. And it wasn't $5 anymore. It went up to $100. Sad. Inflation. It's sad. You know, Obama. Yeah. Fucking Obama. $100 and it wasn't $5 anymore Inflation Obama That's major inflation a Vietnamese hooker for a hundred and I paid for the acting coach. You wonder why I have no money Yeah, I pay all the pay for everything back then

Vietnamese hooker would have been like five cents for the money. Five cents. Yeah. But you know what's great though? Let me ask you this, Gilbert. And Frank, you can chime in anytime. No, I don't want Frank to talk. Just watch it.

Please. Don't ask Frank to say anything. Don't you love having people on your podcast or meeting people or working with people that those oddball characters you work with Yeah, I've done a lot of movies and I've worked with a lot of major stars and so have you but I remember when I first Went to LA and I did a couple of TV shows and I met some famous people and it was great You know you're young but I remember driving down Santa Monica Boulevard and stopping at a light and there's Otis Campbell Otis a drunk How's house?

Now we're talking about I guess late seventies and he still looked's Otis Campbell, Otis the drunk, Hal Smith. Oh my god! Now we're talking about, I guess, the late 70s. And he still looked like Otis. Because he really had become Otis. Probably in the 50s or 60s when he played Otis, it was like Captain Kangaroo. He always looked old, but the older he got, the less makeup he had to put on. But the time Captain Kangaroo died,

he really looked like Captain Kangaroo. He worked a lot, Hal Smith. You know what was horrible? When they did the TV movie Return to Mayberry. Yeah. Where they brought back all the original cast. Oh I remember that. And Otis now had given up drinking. Oh that's right. Yeah. That was horrible. Yeah. That was horrible. He's in The Great Race, another movie that we've talked about. The Great Race of Tony Curtis? Yeah, Hal Smith shows up as the mayor of the western town of Baraccio. But when I pulled up next to him, he goes, I go Otis.

And he was straight, he goes, how do you know me? I go, because you're Otis. And I like seeing those guys. Right before he died in LA, when I shopped at Gelson's, I would see at least once a week, Kevin McCarthy. Oh, wow. You know, in his 80s. Yeah. And I could not help but do this, and I'm sorry, but I'd see him and I'd go, they're

here! They're here! Well, now you got it. Oh, wait, it gets better. It gets better. So my wife goes, why do you do stupid things like that? My daughter would get so embarrassed. So one time I'm in Gelson's, and Kevin McCarthy, I think he's looking for like garlic or something.

They were having garlic. And the guy says, I gotta go get some more garlic in the back. I said, it's here! It's here! The garlic! You're next! I'm sure no one ever yelled bad at him. I used to pull that shit now. Do you know, I, you know, in the aristocrats, in one part I said like, you know, I did the

whole thing this Christ. I'm an aristocrat too. Yes, yes. I just want to let you know. Are you frank in the aristocracy? I am not. Then you stop, you did that part in the aristocracy. And I said in one of the, in one of the variations I'm talking, you know guys fucking the dog blah blah blah

And I said this is a common practice in the house of character actor Kevin McCarthy So somebody who worked on the aristocrats knew Kevin McCarthy He was a hundred at the time and he told's told them this. And he says, you know, he talks about, you know, fucking his daughter and getting blown by his son. And he says, this is common practice from character actor Kevin McCarthy. And Kevin McCarthy said, well, that's offensive. And he goes, well, yeah, Gilbert has a to have and he goes I'm not a character actor I'm a lead. Wow you know you know when I first met

Shelley Berman and I should have said it because he was a very eccentric kind of I was playing the improv in San Francisco when there was an improv and Shelley came in I could didn't used to be Shelly Berman I probably should have said that to him. Yeah. Don't forget to follow us on our Facebook page. Gilbert Gottfried's amazing colossal podcast on Twitter at real Gilbert ACP and on Instagram Gilbert pod free pod F R I E D you see it's kind of a pun on the last name. I never mind As long as we're talking about old comics, I mean you you hung out with buddy hack it with Rickles You told me you had a hack it story. I have a hack. It's oh god. This is a great hack and story Because Gilbert you love the old And again when I called Milton Berle an asshole earlier

You know the one Saturday Night Live that Laura Michaels refused to release. And I think I asked Bill Murray about it, whatever, that Berle came out on the set. It's finally on the box set. It finally came out. It did come out. I don't know how it looked. But he's telling everybody what to do, where to put the lights. I know you missed the television, but you know what? These guys know what to do. They have a successful TV show. So, buddy, heck it. I have never been a fan of the Friars Club Roast. And not the ones, I know that's your specialty, but where I always had a problem was I did one with Hal Roach, and I did one with Mickey Rooney, and I did one with Jackie Cooper,

and I go, who am I to make fun of these people? Oh yeah. Now you became, and I love when you do it, you're the highlight of those, and the late great Greg Giraldo and Jeff Ross. Yeah, Greg was great. And I don't, it's fine when you're, and you probably can understand this, when you make it in front of fellow comics, but when you make it in front of showbiz icons, how do you, you know what I mean?

I heard that's the reason Don Rickles was always putting off those rows because he figured like everybody he worked with is dead. Exactly. What he made for the Sinatra and Reagan made for the Lucille Ball and these people were all peers. So, I remember when I did the few at the Beverly Hilton in LA, you know, we did one for Hal Roach and there's like I said, there's Red Buttons, there's Buddy Hackett and I go, who the fuck am I to make jokes about these people?

And I remember when Dean Martin was doing them, where it was like a weekly show, and that, you know, you'd see like Gary Coleman roasting Orson Welles. Or Wanda Page. Hitting Orson Welles with a purse. That's right. Ruth Buzzi hits Orson Welles with a purse. She hits Sinatra. Almost knocked his piece off. That's right. She got Ruth. Ruth Buzzi hits Welles with a perp. She hits Sinatra. Yeah.

He almost knocked his piece off. That was, that was, that was, yeah. So I didn't like that. So I'm up on that dance. And here's what I hate too. You know, you make it funny. And then you have to sit up there for hours and everybody's sitting up there and they're making fun of each other. So I'm roasting. I got my stuff written. I think it was Hal Roach or Jackie Cooper. And I'm doing the thing. And I'm just Hal Roach or Jackie Cooper and I'm doing the thing and I'm just trying to get through this and it's going okay as I recall and the one or two jokes I had, Buddy Hackett was sitting there and he might have been a little

buzzed it's okay and he stepped on my joke which I didn't care. He's funny, got a laugh and whatever. Everything went fine. The next day Buddy Hackett calls me up and he says, listen, I'm sorry that I ruined your, I go, it was fine. He goes, no, I really feel bad because you know what, you're a young comic and I shouldn't have been making fun of you. I said, if you really feel that bad, buddy, you should take me out to lunch.

Because I want Buddy Hackett to take me out to lunch. Okay, so it happened, this is great, it happened to be a week where I like to drink and I drink a bottle of wine every night at Kirk dinner I want to play comedy clubs. I'm not gonna bottle of vodka for a week But I had a week where I wasn't drinking and I was going to the gym every day I hired a personal trainer between that and my acting coach And you hired that trainer for fourth barrel, right? I just want to be able to beat you up

I just want to be able to beat you up for getting that part. So I call up Buddy Hackett. I'm in the valleys in Beverly Hills right over there and I said, where do you want to go for lunch? He goes, why don't you come to my house tomorrow at noon. I will go to lunch from there. And I'm thinking, well, I could just meet you somewhere. I had worked out. I took a shower.

I'm feeling great. Hadn't drank in five days, which is a lot for me. I go to I had worked out I took a shower feeling great had drank in five days Which is a lot for me. I go to buddy Hackett's house. I knock on the door. I go in there the blinds are drawn He's sitting there in the living room with Louie night Great about buddy Hackett's house and I've never been to your house Gilbert But if you want to have a couple of posters up I remember the late great Rich Jenny. People said they'd go to his house and his American comedy ward is sitting there as soon as you walk in.

You know, if you're a real actor and a lot of people don't even, you want to have a display room and a display case, but as soon as people walk in, we know who you are, we know what you've done. Buddy Hackett's house, it's all white. It's a real Jew Italian thing. Yeah. White carpet. Everything's white. It's horrible real Jew Italian thing. Yeah. White carpet. Everything's white.

It's horrible. Like THX 1138. Exactly what it was like. And he has Rolodex on the bar of him with all the pictures. The entire living room. I'm talking about a living room. Pictures of him with cars and we know what you've done. And him and Louis are sitting in the living room

with a giant bottle. They have glasses full of booze. But he says, hey, so what are you drinking? I said, you know what, I'm actually not drinking this week. I just want to go to lunch. And he says, well, when you drink, what do you drink? I go, I drink vodka.

He goes to the bar, he paused me, not a giant tumbler, a lemon age, like a big slurpy thing of vodka at noon. And I'm going, and him and Louis, and the blinds, it's like big, slurpy thing of vodka at noon. And I'm going, and him and Louie, and the blinds, it's like a hideout. It's like after a bank heist, you know? Louie and the boss hiding out from Superman. It's a beautiful sunny day out.

So they're drinking, and I take a couple of sips of vodka, and I'm trying to be as diplomatic as I can. I wanna get out of there. Let's go have lunch. And Buddy goes, well, we're gonna go to this Chinese restaurant that I love. So I'm thinking, be as diplomatic as I can. I want to get out of there. Let's go have lunch. And Buddy goes, well, we're going to go to this Chinese restaurant that I love. So I'm thinking, it's Beverly Hills. It's going to be a Beverly Hills Chinese restaurant.

And he goes, no, no, no. It's way downtown. And I'm thinking, what the fuck? This has got to be one of the best restaurants. If he's going to make me schlep downtown or Koreatown to a Chinese restaurant, because Beverly Hills are, whatever, there's a million great Santa Monica. And I said, you know what, let me just follow you there, Joey, and he's a buddy.

He said, because I got a, Joe, remind me of the Joey Bishop story. He goes, you'll never be able to follow me. I drive too fast. He goes, let me give you the directions and you'll meet me there whenever you get there. And now I'm pissed. What do you mean I can't follow you? You drive too fast. So he goes to the bathroom to take a leak.

I said, I'll meet you at the restaurant. And I run out the door. I said, I'm not going to let this prick beat me there. And I drove as fast as I could. I can't follow you. What am I, a girl? So I get in my car and I drive to Koreatown and I drive as fast as I can. I didn't care if I got a ticket. I want to beat him to the restaurant.

And in LA I made every light. I went 80 miles an hour and I get to the restaurant three seconds later he pulls up behind me and we're going, how fucking, he took a leak and he's still there at the same time as me. This guy's a lunatic. And I walk into the restaurant and go, this place is going to be terrific. And I walk in and there's pictures of Buddy Hackett all over the restaurant and all the menu is beef and broccoli, wonton soup.

It's the same shit you can get anywhere, but it's a great restaurant because there's pictures of Buddy Hackett all over the joint. Hilarious. I heard a Buddy Hackett story where Buddy Hackett was talking to one of his friends in the lobby of a Las Vegas hotel casino and some young comic walks over and goes, oh Mr. Hackett, I just, this is my big break I'm doing a week in Vegas and and I just started yesterday and Hackett goes, oh yeah I saw you yesterday. You were really good.

But let me give you some advice. Don't do a delivery. Just recite the jokes. Don't worry about it. Just recite them like you're reading them off the page. And then he goes, oh, okay, I'll try that tonight. And when he walks off, Buddy Hackett says to his friend, ah, he's gonna bomb so bad.

You know, you know, you know what? I hate to ban these guys because they're the guys who paved the way for us. But another guy- Could you forgive him for Bud and Lou? What? Could you forgive Bud and Lou? Oh forgive him for Bud and Lou you know you know who should have paid played Shaki no they should instead of Glenn

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I look the same age as Ray Liotta. I'm not a girl, I'm not, you know, but I look pretty much the part, the age. So I said, well have Bobby come back, but maybe he could dye his hair. Not only do I dye my hair, I get that Joey Bishop, my favorite Martian medieval man monk do that he had. Oh yes, yes. I got that whole, I got a shark skin suit, a skinny tie. It wasn't that hard to do Joey Bishop because, you know, I never played a real person.

You know, you pretty much played Gilbert. Who else do you think you played? You ever play a real person, Gilbert? You never did. Except for, you pretty much played Gilbert. Who else did you ever play? You ever play a real person, Gilbert? You never did. Except for Johnny Crunch, who was Gilbert. They should have told me before I spent $200. Which I got without paying $200 to an acting coach.

Did you ever play a real person? Well, I was. In real life, he can't play a real person. You were Lincoln. I was Abraham Lincoln in many ways to die in the West. And on The View. I was better than Daniel Day-Lewis. Better than the late?

So I figured, okay, to become Joey Bishop, I'm going to go to the Museum of Broadcasting. And you know, I'm thinking of like Robert De Niro and raging bull gaining weight, learning how to box. And when Meryl Streep playing violin, getting a German accent. I am going to become Joey Bishop. And I took a sandwich and I got my little cubicle and I started watching Joey Bishop But in five minutes ago, I fucking get this, you know, you talk like a little like, you know, Jackie Mason Hey, it's me. Hey Joe. Hey Dean. Hey, Sammy and I got it So I go back in and I sound exactly like him and I'm reading for the part

but I finally get the part and I call up Joey and you know, he didn't think anybody could recreate the rat pack and he said there's no way You're ever gonna pull this off. Yeah, it wasn't just me, but I could see they never consulted him Frank Sinatra just died Dean Martin didn't want to have anything to do with it So I made of a call Joey Bishop, but even though he wasn't really you know the fourth head on showbiz Mount Rushmore It was Dean Sammy and Frank. He was like Tito Jackson. He was Bobby Swain and I was perfect for this part. And Joey just was not nice. I invited him to the premiere and he'd be a real prick. But you know what? He did send me an 8x10 saying someday,

hopefully I can play you in a movie. But what was really creepy when we did that movie and you give me, come on, you love showbiz, you know, Vegas lore. Sure, sure. I'm thinking, okay, I get this part in the Rat Pack. We're going to go to Vegas and shoot this movie with an audience out there. But as you know, when you're shooting scenes with audiences, rarely are there audiences. There's nobody out there. You're just shooting it on a soundstage.

When I did Ed Wood, there were no people out there. Dreamgirls, when I introduced Eddie Murphy, there were a few people out there dream girls when introduced Eddie Murphy There were a few people out there, but we couldn't shoot anything in Vegas because there was nothing in Vegas There was anything like the old Vegas, you know the old Vegas everything You know everything took place in 1960 at the sands Hotel Remember that cylindrical tower and that iconic sands of the sun which the amazing Colossal man destroyed Which the Amazing Colossal Man destroyed. That's why we couldn't get it. He destroyed it. I tied this whole show in with a beautiful, off the top of my head, that's how good I am. But the Amazing Colossal Man, that sign's long gone. But I'll give you another piece of trivia. We couldn't find anything in Vegas, so the producers couldn't find anything in Vegas to shoot.

Because there was nothing that resembled the old Vegas. So they had a stock shot of that famous Sands Tower. The movie took place in 1960 when Kennedy got elected. That tower wasn't built until 62. See even that. Another gaffe. Another gaffe. And tell us about the ambassador.

Oh my God. You want to hear a great story, Gilbert? No. Okay. Daring to get some more Johnny Crunch. How many more Rondo hats? Get some more Johnny Crunch info. Do you have a boring mediocre story you can tell us?

I don't want to. Don't waste a great story. No, this is a creepy story. A creepy. So, do you remember Gilbert ever going to the Ambassador Hotel in LA? It was the hotel where they had the Academy Awards for eight years. The Coconut Grove was there. Yeah.

Where Griffin, I think, did he buy it or something? They had the Coconut Grove. The Academy Awards were done there in the 30s and 40s. Marilyn Monroe lived there. Ruta Valentino. And they used it for many, many years to shoot movies in. So we're shooting the Rat Pack scenes in the hotel. The hotel is so seedy, it's got to shit, and I'm walking around the hotel because things are crumbling. It's like New York. I walked by today, the subway bar is to go to.

It's closed right across from Bloomingdale's. Oh yeah, that was a landmark. It was a landmark. Yeah, great bar. And they're closing more of those places. Remember when we were kids, the luncheonettes, the diners, they're all gone. And this was one of those places in LA that, you know, you walk around and it's iconic.

So everything was closed up in that hotel except for the lobby, which they were shooting stuff in, and the coffee shop, which they used to do movies. So we're shooting a scene in the Ambassador Hotel of John Kennedy's inauguration party. Frank Sinatra and Peter Lawford were owners of Puccini's Restaurant in Beverly Hills. When Kennedy got elected, they had a big party. So they recreated the scene of me and Ray and Don Cheadle and a big rat-packed party in Puccini's, which was taking place in the Ambassador Hotel. So during the breaks, I would wander around the hotel and everything would say, sir, you can't go there, you can't go here, everything's closed off.

And I walk into the kitchen where Robert Kennedy got assassinated. Yeah, in the pantry, right? We got assassinated in the pantry. And the Mexican busboy was holding up his head. We've all seen that picture, you know, when he's dying. So here we are, it's not lost on me, that here we are celebrating a scene where one brother's getting elected We're in reality 30 feet away. There's a little X on the pavement in this cold pantry And I'm not one of these big ghost guys, but it was really fucking creepy And this woman comes up from behind me because I worked for the hotel

Yeah, that's where he got shot and that's what sir answer and came out of and that was the you know We said let's move on we we want California. And you just- And Rosie Greer tackled him. Rosie Greer. Yeah. And she goes, that's a dumb waiter, they put him in as he's dying, and it was just creepy. So she says to me, you want to see the rest of the hotel? I said, sure.

So she takes me down this hallway, and we get in this elevator, and you know, it has not been inspected for 50 years. And I'm going, you you know this rickety It looks like Berlin after the blitzkrieg It was under with the rats and she takes me up to the top floor and she walks me into a suite I'm the hotel it was like the shining I want to see the dead twins with the blood Any moment now she takes me into a suite and it was peeling Snakeskin wallpaper.

She said, Sammy Davis lived here towards the end of his life and in the middle of the living room was a little stage. I go, what is this? She goes, I don't know. I mean it was a stage because Sammy was obviously, I don't know, he's still performing. He had people coming over and you realize that Sammy Davis was like the ultimate entertainer. I mean Michael Jackson, not to take anything away from that guy, but Sammy Davis wrote the book on tap dancing, on playing drums.

And Don Cheadle, who played Sammy in that movie, learned how to play drums. I played drums and I scored. It was never good, but I played. And Cheadle got behind the drums and he played. I go, how long have you been doing that? It was about three weeks. And I don't think they even showed him playing the drums. But that's the consummate ultimate actor that he learned how to play drums and tap dance to become and that's why he won an Academy Award and that's why I'm doing this stupid podcast. Hey listen, okay

This is my problem great ending with that movie where you know, whatever there's like a black joke They have a close-up on Don Cheadle looking like Tears are welling up in his eyes as Sammy and I'm thinking Sammy probably didn't give a fly. No, he did though. No, he did. Yeah, if you cuz I read every single book ever written and every documentary because I've always been fascinated by the whole Rat Pack era and that all those guys He was haunted. He couldn't play down south. He married a white woman. Oh, yeah my Brit. Oh, yeah Yeah, and and and you know a Joe Kennedy who was a Nazi that prick, you know Kennedy's father Yeah, we you know barred him from the wedding and Frank Sinatra

You know Frank Sinatra was the one because response, you know, Sinatra could be a bully if you read about yeah He could be a horrible man. He punched somebody out and then he'd tip you $200 He was an asshole, you know, he is Frank Sinatra's world that bully. If you read about the guy, he could be a horrible man. He'd punk somebody out and then he'd tip you $200. He was an asshole. You know, it's Frank Sinatra's world that you were living in. But he wouldn't play these hotels unless a black guy could walk through the front door. And he was great about that, you know? So Sammy actually was upset. Oh, big time. You know, if he, of course he was upset. He married to a white woman, he was... No, I mean, I understand the stuff in real life.

Didn't he date Kim Nova? But I mean, they're joking on stage. Like of Dean and Frank. Right. What, was he... No, I don't think he was upset about that. No, see, that's what they show in the movie. Like they're making jokes about him. Oh, no, no, no. I don't think he cared about that. Yeah.

No, I heard that he actually loved that. Here's the award, the NAACP. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's famous. To show you what an asshole I am and how I can't act, and to show you why Doc Chittle is an Academy Award winner, we're shooting a scene. It's a famous Rat Pack. You know, they do the routine where they roll out the liquor cart, and then Dean, like I said, Sammy jumps in his arm, I'm like, I'm like the NAACP. And then they walk out of their underwear, right? Remember? And they have the drinks.

So me and Sammy Davis, Don Cheadle, are supposed to walk out in a minute, and Cheadle says to me, now he's in character, he says, what are they doing out there? What's going on? What are they doing? And he's saying this to me as Sammy. I go, it's in the script, they're in their underwear. And I'm asking him, is Bobby Slater, would you get him he won Academy Award, and I'm paying $200 to get a Gilmore Gonson. I'm an idiot. I don't even know what they're doing. I don't think I got their

own script. I'm on the wrong page. I'm a moron. Now, I heard a story, maybe you're familiar with this, where Frank and Dean beat up the chairman of Hunt's Foods. Oh, I never heard this. Yeah, that he was like celebrating with another couple, like their kids were getting married, and Frank and Dean bombed out of their skulls were being loud and raucous, and he asked them if they could hold it down a little,

and they beat the shit out of this guy, and he crashed through a glass coffee table, and he was in a coma for a while, and never pressed charges, which makes it even creepy. Well, I wonder if Sam Chichada had it. But you know what, though? What they did was wrong. But if you ever have their cats up, I liked Heinz,

and I would go to restaurants. They'd have their hunts ketchup, which is a, I could see where I'd be a little pissed at the guy. Is the ambassador all gone now? Yes. Is it all boarded up? Yes. And Donald Trump, that prick, was going to buy it and they were trying to save it and preserve it because half of it was going to be a school.

And I think they preserved a little piece of it, but most of it they tore down. And it was really horrible because it was one of those great places. Yeah, the landmark. I never went. Yeah, all those places. When they did that movie, Sunset Boulevard, with Norman Desmond, that house was, and if you're familiar,

we are familiar with LA, both of you, it was right on the corner of Wilshire and right in Westwood, which is now a giant parking lot. But the fact that these giant homes were in these places Yeah, well when I got out there everything was gone Chasen's was gone and Nick Adell's was gone the coconut Was great next to the paramount. Yeah, we saw it Frank's is still there. You know, I remember when they tore down When they turned our chases, you know, it wasn't over his great food later on and it was old Hollywood You know Reagan died, you know, you know these old farts food later on and it was old Hollywood, you know Reagan died

Yeah, you know, you know all these old fights and everybody wants to go to the hip places. Hey, there's a Kardashian You know and the Derby was gone and Derby. Yeah, the only thing that's left. I think is Musos This Muses there's nothing else left in that town. Yeah, and it's it's almost like New York. It's just so horrible You know when I when I go to these cities and you know, but my daughter would I take her to New York? I'd walk by the Brill building and you know, next to Caroline's used to be Hawaii Kai, that tiki bar. I loved this place. Oh yeah, and Colony Music.

Colony Music is gone. What is the forever? It goes back to Tin Pan Alley. God! Broke my heart when it closed. Broke my heart too? And I remember there was a Howard Johnson's on the corner, but all those places, and I never used to go to them, so I'm as guilty as anybody for that.

And then when people find out these places are closing, they'll start to go. Palisades Amusement Park swings all day and after dark. Howard Johnson's in Times Square had the most rancid smelling men's room. But they had the clam strips. You would feel the smell on you. The smell would press down on you. You can see if you watch Sweet Smell of Success or all those movies, Times Square and the 60s, you always see that neon Howard Johnson sign.

It's sad. So much of it's gone. It's sad. You know, the Metropole they closed, which was a really high class strip joint from like the 1920s and 30s. They just closed the coffee shop in the Empire Hotel. It had been there forever. They closed it, finally.

Yeah. They closed the coffee shop in the Empire Hotel. It had been there forever. They closed it, finally. And the variety plays from the 1920s, when they showed silent movies down on 1st and 2nd Avenue. Yep, of the old Jewish theater. The one thing that we all got to grow up with was those cool places in New York. And our parents and grandparents, we saw them. And you still got Jonas Schimmel's,

and you still got Russ and Daughters, and you still got Katz's. There's a few things. How would they close the stage deli, you know? Even the Ziegfeld's in trouble, which is really heartbreaking because it's the last great New York movie theater. Yeah, it's pretty horrible. We will return to Gilbert Gottfried's amazing colossal podcast, but first a word from our

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See app for details. Now you, you are friends with Woody Allen and Sid Caesar? Well, Sid Caesar is dead, so we're not friends anymore. Yeah. But you hung with Sid. What you call him sometimes? Well, Carl Reiner is more of a friend. Not even a friend.

Why, you talk to them. If I had to move, I wouldn't say, hey, can you help me? If I need to borrow money, I call you before I call them. That's how friendly we are. You know, Woody, it's interesting. By the way, the next time we do these comedian dinners, you have to come to one. Will you come? Okay. With Woody?

Yeah. You'll come, won't you? I wanted to invite you to the last one. I think I had, you were out of town. I will look at your website. You were out of town. Here's what happened with Woody Allen. A friend of mine, a buddy of mine is good friends with Woody, and he's got this really

amazing house right on the Upper East Side and it's like a half a city block. He's got money. He's friends with Woody. So I'm playing in Florida about three or four years ago and he comes to my show because he also has a home in Florida and he says to me, Woody Allen's a fan of yours. I go, Woody Allen? He goes, yeah, Woody's comes over to my house for dinner a lot.

He goes, he's coming over next Friday. And I said, he's coming over next Friday. Now, first of all, I'm on the road all the time and I wasn't on the road that following Friday and I was going back to LA and I said, if I fly out to New York, can I come to your house? I would never invite myself to somebody's house. But I have dinner with Woody Allen. I said, can I fly out and have dinner with you and Woody?

He goes, sure. I go, why don't you ask Woody first? He goes, no, no, no. He's coming to my house. I go, who's coming to dinner? He goes, me, Woody, and his wife. And I said, it's kind of creepy. It's a lot of pressure, too.

It's a lot of pressure. And I said to my wife and I said to a couple of friends, should I fly all the way? I'm coming up from the West Palm Improv. Should I fly back five days later? And Gilbert, like you, I'm going, this ticket's going to cost me a fortune. I'm not going to, I don't get a year in advance until you buy me tickets. I can't even get a 21 day advance purchase. So I got a good deal on a ticket and I, I my friend said I'll even push up at a hotel

Come back and go. I you know what? I can't pass this up. So I Went to do with Woody and his wife and I said I'm not gonna ask him about his movies I don't really give a rat's ass about the Knicks and it was a sports fan But I know that Woody likes jazz and I like the blues and we'll talk about that But when I start out in San Francisco in the 70s, Woody, even though he's a New York guy, started out in the 60s, you know? And he started out, you know, the purple onion, the hungry eye.

So it was also, he was also kind of a San Francisco comic, along with the Smyther brothers, Phyllis Diller, John of the Winters, of course, Lenny Bruce and Mort Sall. And we had a lot of mutual friends, because when those people all died or moved on, we went to the same restaurants. So, you know, we sat there, and Suni doesn't talk a lot,

Woody doesn't talk a lot, my friend Jeff doesn't talk a lot, so I'm gonna have to do all the talking here. Anyway, it went great, and before you know it, it's a three hour dinner. And Woody, once he gets to know you, really likes to, he's like Gilbert. Gilbert's very shy, but if you know Gilbert, which nobody does but if they did he would talk I hear his wife said I like them better when he didn't talk. What did you guys talk about you talk about the old San Francisco clubs

Talked about me They talked about me though. But anyway, so we had a, we had three other, and Woody's a very, really great, relaxed man and, and you know, we talked about the Marx Brothers a lot, and Charlie Chaplin, and Harold Lloyd, and he's, because he's such a big fan of, of those people, and we talked about the Marx Brothers movies, about comedy, and the fact that I'm friends with Carl Reiter, and it's weird because he hasn't talked to Carl in so many years, and they all worked together. They were writers on all work together.

They were writers on a staff together. They were writers. He wrote, I go, have you talked to Mel Brooks? He goes, not in 20, 30 years. And I just talked to Tommy Smothers and Tommy Smothers said to me, tell what he has said alone and they hadn't talked in years. So I don't know, you know, what he's so busy writing all these movies and directing every, that's all he does is write direct movies.

And I told him I was writing a book and I remember saying to him, you know, I'm writing a book and if not for my iPad, I don't know how I do this. He goes, you like that iPad? I go, yeah. You know, he still writes every movie on the typewriter. On a manual typewriter, not even an electric typewriter. And I'm thinking, how do you even find ribbons? He said to me, and I can't believe this is true, but this is what Woody told me.

He said, I have this guy come over and he goes, he's not really that friendly with anymore, but he's the only guy that really knows how to change your ribbons on my typewriter You think for 50 years what he would have that down You know, I don't even know you get typewriter ribbons, but he gets them and he's still type. Anyway, so we had this dinner And what he's not, you know really in character and I must have gotten up to pee four or five times, because I'm 60, I must have knocked off a bottle of wine. And Woody never got up to pee one time. And as we're leaving, you know, I said to him, you know, it's amazing to me, you're this old, you're drinking two or three beers, you didn't get to pee once during dinner.

And that's when he became Woody Allen. That's one of my attributes. I don't know if you hear. Yeah, yeah. I had to do a good one. So he had such a good time. And my friend calls me up and goes, Woody had a great time. We gotta do this again with some other comedians. You know any other comedians? And I go, well, you know, put together comedians.

First of all, I'm an LA guy. And I come to New York. I go, you know, I know Chris Rock. I kinda know Gilbert, I don't really hang out with these people. We'll see who can get over. So I did for everybody to be in town at the same time. So I put together another dinner, and Lewis Black happened to be in town, and David Brenner

in town and still alive at the time. And so I invite those two guys over, and Woody brings over Dick Cavett. We also grew up with him. You know, and these guys are friends since they were 20 and they both love magic. And in the middle of dinner, David Blaine shows up. And after dinner, David Blaine starts showing us magic tricks. Now to shut up Dick Cavett, me and Lewis Black and David Brenner for 45 minutes and do magic tricks is one of those magical little, it was just great. So then we did it again. I think Jackie Martling, Jay Thomas came over, Nick DiPaolo and my friend said, you've got to invite over Gilbert and you're out of town.

By the way, to tell you why, because I know she'd like to go, it's no women. It's just guys. It's just guys. But I saw my friend Jeff today. I go up doing Gilbert's podcast. He goes, you gotta have Gilbert over next time we do a dinner. I said, Gilbert's not coming over without his wife, or he won't talk, he needs somebody he knows. His interpreter. He kinda knows her.

You gotta, Darren, you gotta pass. He comes with Marley Matlin's interpreter. No, you'll make Gilbert talk. You'll poke him, you'll do what you have to do. You'll slip up somebody, you'll make him talk. Gil, you gotta go. Yeah. But I brought my wife last time, and it was great.

You know, just hanging out with these guys, because there's not a lot of them left, you know? Yeah, true. We had Kavit on the show. He was great. He's great, isn't he? Yeah, the best. Yeah, before he passed away.

He wasn't Jewish. No, no, definitely not. As we're winding down, Bob, you want to tell Gilbert about, you want to talk about either the Gong Show or being on Sandy Becker? Sandy Becker, yeah, I heard Sandy Becker hated kids. I don't think anybody... Do you know, I saw Sandy Becker in some interview, like on Channel 13 or something, where I couldn't believe what a pretentious prick he sounded

like. You know, he was one of those guys though, if you look back at the few kinescopes that are still on, you know, Norton Norrick and all these things he did, if you go to my website, not that anybody cares, BobbySlatan.com, there's a picture of me with, I don't know if you remember this, but in about 1959, before he did the Norton Norrick and he had Shotzi the dog, he would interview two kids. And he would, I say, Popeye the sailor man, and he would show cartoons for half an hour,

and it was a WNEW, I remember seeing the Doobie and the Don't Be in a romper room. That was a big thing when you're five. And I heard years later that Sandy Becker didn't like kids. He had a collection of German guns and Lugers, which is fine, they're the real Nazi stuff. But Andy Kaufman, when I met him one night at the Improv in LA, we're talking about how did he do it,

you know, Andy was, you know, Andy. And I told him I was on the Sandy Becker show and I heard he didn't like children. I heard that from a lot of people, that he hated being Sandy Becker. And Andy almost started trying. What do you mean? What do you mean? I thought he was kidding but he wasn't kidding. Like people think you're kidding but you're not kidding. He does hate children.

Is that really Gilbert? Oh by the way, before we go here's one thing I do have to tell you. Here's what we have to end with. I've been married to the same woman for 27 years and my wife is gorgeous and I have a beautiful daughter Natasha. And your daughter's in the business too. My daughter's in the business. I didn't even get to tell you the story about how when she was an actress at nine, she was at Universal Studios and I would go to the tapings, she had her own parking spot at nine years old Universal and we'd walk over to the cycle house and we'd sit on the steps

and she'd go over lines on Norman Bates' house and then we'd walk down to the Transylvania Square and I'd go home and I'd show her the movie with the father's carrying Maria's body. I said, we were there today! We were there today, Natasha! And I said, someday you're gonna appreciate this. And she loved it. And I took her to stage 28, where they filmed Phantom of the Opera. And you know, the thing about Universal is there's a few little things left, but you

know what? It's almost like New York. You go to stage 28, and you walk in there, and I walked in there with my daughter, and I went to the Abbot of Costello stage, and I walked into stage 28, and I said, this is where they shot the Phantom of the Opera, I think in 1920, whatever, I think stage 28,

and you walk in there and you go, I think they were doing a Jamie Kennedy movie. I go, fuck, this is really. Jamie Kennedy. That was like going to Ashwoods and seeing graffiti on all... I go to a Jewish cemetery and see the face. I felt like I was in a Jewish cemetery at Bitburg with his Nazi soldiers and you know but but it was like God this was... I remember being at a studio and I don't think it was even

Columbia I don't know but I was at the studio yeah with the Stooges. You know we were doing a show and they said that the Stooges used to do their shorts there. Yeah that's probably Columbia because that was Sony Pictures. Poverty Row. Yeah. Yeah. You go over there's a school right there we're all found for and Spanky went to school.

That was but anyway what I was gonna tell you I'm a suddenly the stooges were Jewish By the way, they don't look it one of the funniest things ever You know I look back at a lot of the stooges and I'm still a major students fan What always pissed me off is when you watch Ghost Breakers with Bob Hope, which is great And it was always disappointing as a kid, because we all loved Martin and Lewis. When they did Scared Stiff, it could have been so much scarier. It could have been Abbot of Kissimmee, Frankenstein,

and it wasn't. But to this day, one of the things that still makes me laugh, and I saw it and I wasn't stoned, I don't smoke pot anymore, but the greatest thing was when the Bowery Boys and the Stooges are, hold that ghost, when they went to Haunted House. Oh, hold that ghost. Bowery Boys meet the Bowery Boss.

With the money in Moose's head. Oh, but one of the greatest things ever was the three Stooges, when they went to a haunted house. Oh hold that ghost The money and moose his head Oh, but one of the greatest things ever was the three stooges when they're that haunted house and the parrot walks into the skull It's just flying around. Yeah, the flying skull. It's great. I love that It's great. It still makes me laugh and even my daughter when she was seven goes, what are you an idiot? The fly Barrett skull I love what do you want to close with, Sammy Petrillo? Oh, no, no, no, here's what I want to tell you. Yeah? No, what I want to say was, I get a beautiful wife

and a beautiful daughter, and for years, people have said to me every time I meet my wife, how is she married to you? How have you stayed married so long? They see pictures of my daughter and go, how did you give birth to this? How is your family so talented? And the only person that's taught me in that world is you, is Gilbert Gottfried.

First of all, how is this man married? You can be married to Ruth Gordon and they go, she married him? Any woman named Ruth married him. You have this beautiful wife and two gorgeous kids and you go, what the fuck is wrong with this picture? I am nothing compared to this guy. Now people say to me, people in the business who know Gilbert or see pictures of his family, when people say to me, your wife's beautiful, your kid's beautiful. Well, you're not exactly the elephant man. You're a Toronto Tractive fellow.

They shouldn't say that about you. Don't try to make this better than it is. I'm not talking about being ugly, but thank you, Frank. I'm talking about just being a monster. I'm talking about the fact that the jokes I say about my wife the things I've done about her it's horrendous and it's amazing that I can stay married this long and anytime anybody points out I go what about Gilbert to go oh yeah okay he's actually beat me in the world. His children are beautiful. His wife is beautiful too.

Obviously insane okay but he's's beeping at our world. You want to go out on an insult. Of course. I'm the pitbull of comedy. We'll be doing part two, so we haven't even touched... Look at all the stuff I've got. What do you got on your list? Tell us. I didn't get to the Gong show. We never talked about... Oh my God. The Pink Panther. We'll do this again.

Sammy. We didn't get to Sammy Petrillo. I didn't really have anything to Sammy Petrillo. I didn't really have anything about Sammy Petrillo. Right. Or famous monsters of film land. Or there was so much more. I had the greatest collection of the creature from the Black Lagoon. One of the world's biggest collection of stuff.

Next time we'll talk about it. I have to tell this to Gilbert. I was talking on the phone with you yesterday. I found it, and you mentioned it here, I found it very strange that Plan 9 scared you as a kid, because looking at it now. No, I'm sure Gilbert- What was the other one you said, Horror Hotel? Horror Hotel, which actually, I just did some research on it.

Horror Hotel, do you remember Horror Hotel with Christopher Lee? It took place in Massachusetts, in Salem, you know, and they actually had a sacrifice in the movie. It was black and white. It was atmospheric. It was done in 1960. Do you remember the movie? Not that well.

Sure. Not that well. These people check into the hotel, and underneath there's a coven of witches, and they kill this woman, and at the end, Selwyn, whatever her name is, they burn her at the stake. When you're 10 years old, that's really a beautiful scary film Christopher Lee in that Christopher Lee and he plays the head of the coven and a head witch guy But what's interesting is you google horror hotel the movies actually called city the dead It was an English film, but it took place in Massachusetts

And the reason and this is IMDB is that me the reason they changed the name to our hotel Because in the 50s and early 60s, they said American audiences, teenagers, wanted stupid names for movies. And Haro Hotel would bring them in. City of the Dead wouldn't do it. So they did it to placate the stupid American audiences and call a movie Haro Hotel. What movie really scared you, Gil, as a kid? I know we talked about scenes.

Clare and I didn't scare you, Frank? No, I think I saw too late late I think I was too old but we talked about those isolated scenes and Abbott and Costello meet Frankenstein yeah was there any were there any that really really gave you the creeps oh I don't remember do you know what I remember scared me that wasn't a horror movie, but when I was a kid, they had that movie Caged about the women's prison. And when they grab her and are shaving her head bald. Oh, that was, that's Susan Hayward, that's how I want to live.

I want to live. That's how I want to live, yeah. Yeah, that, that, I was like, oh. Really? Yeah, what the hell? Okay. Yeah. I would have gone for Carnival of Souls.

Oh yeah, that's a creepy movie. Yeah, seriously creepy. Oh,, I would have gone for Carnival of Souls. Oh yeah, that's a creepy movie. Seriously creepy. Oh, the best one though, the one that really scared me and my daughter, and you gotta show this to your kids, was not William Castle, House on Haunted Hill. Oh yeah, that's a Castle film. Is it Castle? Yeah.

With Elijah Cook Jr., with the blood dripper from the surprised, and the skeleton, he takes the vat acid, and his wife falls into the vat, and that woman on the wheels, remember? Oh yes, yes. I used to do that to my daughter, you know, that woman, that old lady, the caretaker. I think the most frightening thing in the, scared the hell out of me. I think Corman's pit in the pendulum was pretty creepy, too.

That's pretty scary. And all those- I saw Night of the Living Dead, the original, at the Waverly Theatre and it was like they'd have midnight shows of it. The old Waverly. And that film scared me back then. That was a beautiful piece of work and that's why, if you look at Romero's stuff, you know, that paved the way.

There's too much zombie crap now. Oh, it's horrible. I used to love the zombie movies of Night of the Living, Dawn of the Dead was great. The Val Luton. Val Luton with the zombie. I walked with the zombie and the cat woman. Now it's like idiotic.

Idiotic. Yeah. Idiotic. And even now I look back at some of these movies and you know what your most idiotic thing ever? And my daughter pointed this out. It's another thing. And I did this in my act but I done it before she pointed it out that's how we think alike at the end the Bride of Frankenstein

he goes we belong dead oh yeah and he pulls the switch to blow up the castle Why is there a switch to blow up the castle? Why do you even have that switch? What is that for? On or off blow up the castle? Check the air conditioning. Don to blow up the castle? Why do you even have that switch? What is that for? On or off blow up castle? Hey, check the air conditioning. Don't blow up the castle. You're pulling... What is that for? What do you need that for? Yeah, I always said, well, the guy who built the castle said,

you want to live it or blow it up? I could throw it in. Yeah. And that shows you why women have let us down on every level. You bring some fucking broad back to life, and she still won't put out. You let her live in a castle, you bring her back to life, and she still won't put out.

Next time we'll talk about all the other stuff on your list. I get so much more stuff. All right, don't you do a big ending? Yeah. You sing a song, you're about music. Okay. We don't sing a song. There's just one place for me

and that's near you. That's what I wanted to hear. Our fans actually love it when he sings. He'll sing obscure theme songs. What was that from? Milton Berle, you sang. Last week he sang the theme from The Life and Times of Judge Roy Bean.

Marmalade, molasses, sand, honey. You sang. Last week he sang the theme from The Life and Times of Judge Roy Bean. Yeah. Marmalade, molasses, and honey. Cinnamon and Sassafrass tea. I know our lives could be so happy and sunny. If you'd go away with me I know I'd really like to do Head for the hills the hills with you. It's amazing. I've grouped the Beatles I must have heard yesterday a billion times. I can't remember

Remember the theme from the Lords of Flatbush. I mean real weird shit. Remember bang the drum slowly with De Niro? He remembered the friggin song from the other they what is it they perform it on a TV station? Please excuse my tears but I've been on the road to tribulation And I find no consolation here. I'm exhausted from this. That's me. We do that to our guests. And yeah, loads of like, hey, hey, what do you say?

Looks like it's going to be a very fine day. My girl is with me today. You got a song in you, Bob? No, I'm emotionally spent. I'm drained. I know the actual, see I sang the David Pomerant songs. That's right, to Greg Evagran. From Zapp.

But the one that was performed by a group called Plain Jane, if they ever actually really existed outside this film. The actual theme song to Zapt was, something's happening to me, where is that quiet kid I used to be? Not long ago, one I used to know. You know, once a famous saying saying I think Fred Astaire once said it I'm like leave him wanting more. Yeah it's way too late for that isn't it? We've gone way beyond that. I'm just giving the fans what they want. I'm looking at my notes and what can I end with? Don't drag this out anymore. Bring it to Vorkia and just put it out in his business. These people have to go home. Bring it to Vorkia and just put it out in the smithereens. These people have to go home. My phrase is leave them where they don't want to listen to the podcast ever again.

He doesn't have to do it. I'm the one responsible for this. Great. Yeah, well blame it on you. Thanks, Bob. Thanks for having me, guys. So this has been Gilbert Gottfried's Amazing Colossal Podcast. I'm Gilbert Gottfried and I'm here with my co-host Frank Santopadre at Nutmeg Post and

we've been talking to Bobby Slake. Thank you Frank Verderosa. Thank you Frank Verderosa. Thank you Bob.