Gilbert Gottfried's Amazing Colossal Podcast - Disco Fever w / Frank DeCaro and Cory Daye

Episode Date: September 16, 2025

Frank sets the FFAA time machine back to the decadent and "dancetastic" 1970s as comedian-author Frank DeCaro ("Disco: Music, Movies and Mania Under the Mirror Ball") and Grammy-nominated singer Cory Daye (Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band, Kid Creole and the Coconuts) celebrate the songs, artists, movies, nightclubs and cultural impact of the disco era. In this episode: Dr. Buzzard meets James Bond, Ethel Merman records a camp classic, Frank weighs in on Disco Demolition Night and Cory recalls the heyday of the legendary Studio 54. PLUS: Mike Douglas! ABBA trading cards! The genius of Paul Jabara! "Playboy's Roller Disco & Pajama Party"! Frank interviews the Queen of Disco! And Cory hangs with RuPaul, Grace Jones and Cab Calloway! Subscribe now on  Apple ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fun-for-all-ages-with-frank-santopadre/id1824012922⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Spotify ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/18EQJNDwlYMUSh2uXD6Mu6?si=97966f6f8c474bc9⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Amazon ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/13b5ed88-d28d-4f0c-a65e-8b32eecd80f6/fun-for-all-ages-with-frank-santopadre⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgvlbF41NLLPvsrcZ9XIsYKkH_HvUXHSG⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ iHeart ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-fun-for-all-ages-with-fran-283612643/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TuneIn ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://tun.in/pxOWO Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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and the Soul City Symphony called The Hustle went to number one on Billboard's Hot 100 charts which seems like a logical setup to this week's topic, one that I'm especially excited about. Disco! Woo! And here to talk about it. It's our old friend, Frank DeCaro.

Woo! He's a writer. Performer talk radio host, media critic, man about town. You like a How I threw that in there? Yeah. It's a questionable man about talent. Yes, that's true. And the author of several books on pop culture.

He's known for his work as a contributor to the Daily Show, where he appeared from 96 to 2003. And still milking it. And he's milking it. And as the host of Sirius XMs, the Frank DeCaro show. He serves as a critic for the Detroit Free Press and the Detroit News. Is that how you came to interview Grandpa Al Lewis? Yes. Okay, maybe we did you tell that later.

And he's also penned articles for Newsweek Vogue, Martha Stewart, Living the New York Times Magazine, in the Times Arts and Leisure Home and Style and Style Section, also writing the Style Over Substance column for that paper. And now they won't return my calls. It's brilliant. I used to work there. And it's like, we don't care. You're old.

But you're doing this. No, I'm excited. You got this call returned. It's terrific. And he's made TV appearances on Dateline, CNN's showbiz tonight, the Kelly Clarkson show, and watch what happens live. He's also the author of the Dead Celebrity Cookbook, a favorite of mine. unmistakably Mackey, the fashion and fantasy of Bob Mackey.

I almost turned into Art Fern there. I do it every week. The fashion and fantasy. Drag combing through the big wigs of show business. Love that one. And his latest project, the beautifully designed and meticulously researched and very heavy to carry disco, movies, music, and mania under the mirror ball. And here's some fun trivia about Frank. This man was in the room, the fateful night that my late partner, Gilbert.

perform the aristocrats joke. Oh, my God, one of the greatest nights of my life. And in the dirt, I had never heard the aristocrats joke before. So to not, to hear it from... Master. It was like, it was like being there when Moses came down with the tablets. I'm sure it was. It really was.

It really dirty. Way dirtier than Moses. And we're thrilled to be joined by a genuine disco icon. Corey Day is it Grammy-nominated musician and vocalists who captivated audience as the voice of Dr. Buzzard's original Savannah band, formed right here in the Bronx. Yep. And best known for their 1976 number one dance hit,

Cherche Le Femm, a song that pushed the Bee Gees out of the top spot on the disco charts. The original Savannah band would go on to make national TV appearances on variety programs like the Mike Douglas show. We'll talk about Mike Douglas. Tony Orlando and Dawn, the Dinah Shore show, as Corey and her mates helped to reimagine American music of the era

fusing swing and big band and Caribbean rhythms and disco into a sound, she called a love letter to the Latino contributions to the country. She later embarked on a solo career with the albums Corey and Me and Middle of the Night, releasing the dance floor hits powwow and green light and teaming up with Kid Creole and the Coconut's one of yours truly's favorite bands for their album Tropical Gangsters. And I just recently found out that she sang the title track to the 1990 cult film the forbidden dance is Lombada.

I didn't know that. Welcome Disco Divas, and I'm referring to you, Frank. Thank you. Okay, Corey, I'm going to say it out loud for everyone to hear. I interviewed a ton of people for the disco book. Yeah. And Corey was not only my favorite interviewee, but she also was one of the...

Every once in a while, I was like, well, I have to be friends with this person now, and I just hope they'll go along with it. And she didn't have much of a say in the matter. I just was like, I'm going to be friends with... I had such a good time talking there. And then when I met her, it was love at first, Nosh. We had such a good time together.

Yes, we did. And I'm crazy about her. Friends forever. Was it an easy sale, Corey, to be his friend? Absolutely. Frank has an amazing personality. And he's so adorable. So adorable and has such great knowledge of that era, which is so endearing to me because those were my formative years and too crazy.

So this is when she had me though This is when Corey absolutely had me A mutual friend wrote to her And said oh I heard Frank DeCaro interviewed you And she got it She didn't remember that it was me And she said I didn't do an interview with him He writes like a fourth grader

And I and he sent me that And he said And then he sent me the rest of the text He said oh no wait that wasn't fill in the blank And it was somebody else completely But I just was I was like To get it she's like no he's Oh, yeah, no, he's wonderful.

And I was like, because there's nothing better than a compliment that also insults someone else. There is no compliment is better. But in all honesty, he did interview me, what, two years prior? Something like that, yeah. Yeah, to you contacting me and letting me know that you were doing the reading at Rosoli and asked me to be on the panel. But it was so good. He works like a fourth grader.

And I was like, oh. We won't mention who you were actually talking about. No, we won't mention his name is Arena. And it wasn't the book that propelled him to fame. It was all the people that he wrote about, that he has now a review of these women who do shows on the road together. You're naming names. We don't name names.

No naming names. Rina is not a name we use. Corey, let me get this out of the way right away because I'm somewhat confused about it. Are you or are you not the inspiration for Odyssey's hit Native New Yorker? I am. Okay. I am. As a matter of fact, Sandy Linser, the producer and writer of the song and produced it,

and my solo album contacted me about doing a Broadway play called Native New Yorker, and he was asking me about the history of my life because it would be based on me. It's on hold currently because now he's writing music with his grandson. So it's on hold, but now that has inspired me to perhaps talk Frank into writing my bio. And calling it Native New Yorker. First time hearing of this. Yeah, well, you know. She grew up riding the subway.

I make sure you can't say no. We were talking about that outside. Did you grow up in the Bronx? You're local. Your mom was Puerto Rican. Your dad was Syrian. Yes. And you grew up with all of these different cultural influences and musical influences.

I did. I did. My father was the singer in the family, but he loved hanging out in Latino clubs. There was one called the Tropicana Club in the Bronx. that's where he met my mom. She was much younger, but they danced a storm into each other's lives. And you said you listened to everything, what did you say to me from Perry Como to Tito Puente? Yes. Which is quite a range. Yes. And a million dollar movie. Yeah. All the New York references that we like to make. There are people who grew up in the tri-state area. Just to refresh people's

memory about Native New Yorker, let's hear a little bit of it. Because people will know, they might not know it from the title, but they'll know as soon as they hear it. We have a little clip. the thought you had in a taxi can that got left on the crew when he dropped you off at East 803 you're a native New Yorker

you should know the score by now you're a native New Yorker I was going to say the amazing thing to me is that Corey was not supposed to be the lead singer of Dr. Yeah, let's talk about that. How did that happen? Well, I was the background vocalist, and we had a gospel lead singer. He was more gospel-oriented.

And it was a man, right? And a man. Yeah. And he was fired when we decided to go into the route of big band. fusion music, and he was not a good fit. He was a great singer, but not a good fit. And so we, while we were in the studio recording the album, it was a time where we needed to find people. And we did find a vocalist that did a McDonald's commercial, and he said, I don't think so. I don't think so. We invited him to be in the music, in the band, and turned out

it was Luther Vandross. Oh, boy. Wow. So when he decided, when Stoney, the bandleader, decided to go with a female vocalist, we had seen this female vocalist that was amazing, and he invited her, and she was like, no, I don't think so. I'm solo, and it was Phyllis Hyman. Well, you guys had good taste in your search. We had great taste, but, you know, these people were genius at what they did. So it got to a point where RCA was sick of spending so much money.

They were just pouring out money. They said, okay, we're stuck with you. You do the vocals. And threw me out in the room. I had them dim the lights, turn on the headphones, and I just let it out. It was for the first time singing leads. Wow. Yeah.

The rest is history. And it's so gorgeous. It's so gorgeous. You can't imagine it any other way. Well, that's one of those great happy acts. that happens in show business. But the best point about this whole thing is that I created 90% of the background vocals. So there were two different background vocals going on at the same time.

It was a project that was very near and dear to me. Yeah. And I must say, the album costs $500,000, which is equivalent to almost $3 million today. So RCA was through with us. They were so through. In Frank's interview, you said the record company really nice. never had your back. No.

They were ready to shelve it and use it as a tax write-off. And Tommy Motolo had the genius idea of hiring a promoter who was gay and sent us to Fire Island. And then when the season was over, it hit like wildfire. And that's when that's when it took off. But your goal, gram, glaminated. About going to Fire Island and walking down the. the boardwalk, and hearing it out of every home they were playing the album. That gives me goosebumps to think of that.

You've got to not only hear your own song coming out of the radio, but a song about you. Yeah. Which has got to be a strange experience. Yeah. All I can say is of one thing I am certain. Go-goo, go-goo. They're all the same. the spots and the same.

For me to be, my friend. Sheish la bah. He's not. Sheche la fa. Oh, me. Sheche la fa. Yeah. Chasse la fa.

Oh, oh, oh. That's the more. Shand Shank, oh, that's the more. Shand shank the more. Yeah, we talked about this on the phone. What's the, and I used to ask the musicians that we had on the old show, I always asked them, what was the experience of try to take us through the emotion

of hearing your song on the radio for the first time, knowing we made it? I remember fully, we were in a one of those old taxis where they had the jump seats, and the band was in the taxi. It was playing on the radio. we rolled down the windows and screamed, this is us, this is us, this is us, oh my God. And it's, it really, not to do a commercial for the album, but it really is, because it's not strictly disco,

because it's so many other kinds of music, it's timeless, it really is. You listen to it now, and it's just this gorgeous cocktail of 50 ingredients into this beautiful drink. And it's, it's so wonderful. And apparently, didn't you say you have a big fan of that album? You were telling me about a certain drag queen who likes you? Oh, RuPaul, RuPaul.

RuPaul's a fan of the first Dr. Buzzard album. Big fan. He was in high school, and he said he had four favorite albums, and one of them was Dr. Buzzard's original Savannah Band, and he adored it. The way he spoke of the album, I posted it on my Facebook page. and also John Singleton was a big fan and he featured Sunshower in Boys in the Hood.

That's right. And it's, yeah, that's one regret I have that I never met him because he was the musical director of that film. So he chose that song. It's not like they hired somebody and they threw it in there. I like Sunshower. He's right. The album's got, there's a lot of different variety on that album. And next year is our 50th anniversary, and I'm planning to do something big.

You better be in town. I'll make sure. I will be for you. 76. So next year's the 50th anniversary of Dr. Buzzards. And the 250th anniversary of the United of America. There you go. The fun never stops, but occasionally we pause for a word from our sponsor. Hey, gang, it's that time again when we look into the magic mirror, for those of you who remember romper room, and read off a list, read off some names of some generous people who contribute to this show, who may. make this show possible. We do it every week. This week is no different, as we say. So here's

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Yeah. White Sox and the Tigers. whatever the kids call it. But, and they thought they would sell about 6,000 tickets, and they sold like 60,000 tickets. And they blew up records basically by black artists. It wasn't really only disco records. It's insane.

Yeah, they were pulling up Marvin Gay Records. Yeah, sure. This was the low point in disco and in musical pop culture. And sadly, it kind of had a chilling effect on the notion of disco, It made it a dirty word until, honestly, to be able to use the word disco, I would say in the last 15 years has only really begun to be okay to call something disco. And it's not a joke and it's not pejorative. It's just something, it's a disco hit. They're a disco artist.

And I wanted to write the book because disco, they thought they killed disco and they didn't really. As someone I interviewed, he said, you look. at everything today. And he said, you know, they wanted to say, oh, disco sucks. And he said, diversity ended up winning out. He said, young people are all about diversity. And he said, and once you could buy things, uh, download music, he said, there was no genre you couldn't buy. You could buy a big band song and a disco song and a, you know, and a, uh, a death metal song and put it all on your Apple account. And it didn't, you could like anything. And, um, I felt it was important to tell. And also as a queer person myself, it's like, you realize

this was such a high point for people in the queer community, for strong women and for people of color. We were talking about that at dinner last night. We were out to dinner last night. We were trying to determine, you know, what it was about it that set these people off. And I think strong women at the front, at the forefront, was a part of it. Yes. And they didn't like the gays either. Let's be honest. No, no, no. And they won't even own it to the state, which is shameful. They won't even own that there was a racial component to this backlash, that there was a, you know, a homophobic component to it, a gender component. And a masogynistic component to it. Yes, of course. And, you know, it was the time the 70s was the reign of women, female vocalists ruled that disco era.

I also like the idea that women could go with tracks, with tape, and show up at something just them and their person and sing a song, you know, are their disco hit or two or three, and then go to a different club and they could make money without traveling with a band and that was a new thing too but it gave women an opportunity

to be out on the road and make some money and that was really part of it I also wanted to write the book because the people who told us that disco was dead were the same people who were gunning for disco to be dead

and anecdotally I believe it to be true because when I wrote about house music which is what disco music became this underground dance music called House out of Chicago and techno out of Detroit and many other names.

And shortly after the so-called demise of disco, but when I was writing about it in Detroit, the music writer, who was straight and white, said it is not time to be writing about this. And I was like, there are already anthology albums of house music. So if you have enough house music to put out anthology record,

box sets. There's enough out there. And one of the guys I interviewed that I ended up reusing the quote and quoting myself almost 40 years later was he said rock critics are not afraid

to be out of touch with what black people like. And I thought, yeah, or what gay people like or what, you know, or people, any people of color, women, you know,

I mean, it's like they'll hate a movie that means a lot to women. They'll hate a gay movie They're not, you know, think they're never going to give the award to Brooke Back Mountain, you know, God forbid, you know. It, you realize that, and I hate to throw that, you know, play the prejudice card, but it's true, you know. It certainly appears to be true in this case. Yes.

But you guys didn't run from the label. You didn't run from the word disco. We didn't run from the disco because we were so grateful. Here we are from the Bronx, these poor kids that are struggling to make it. Sure. We didn't care how, and because Cherche de la Fem was danceable, it wasn't the disco formula, but it was danceable. And that's what propelled it in the clubs and in all the homes in Fire Island, the monster, the, what was the other club that was there? There was one in the Grove also.

Yeah, I know. Crazy. They started at like three o'clock. No. Was it? Yes, it was the Ice Palace, yes. You're good. Well, that ran out of my Tuesday, yes.

But, yeah, it was, I forgot what I was saying. That's okay. You were saying that it was a craze. I'm 73, huh? They were just happy to have something to dance to. Yeah, and Cherche la Fom was danceable, along with other songs and that. But it was always the gay community. Nick Siano in your book, Frank mentions it.

He was the Studio 54 DJ, and very, even before. that. He was at the gallery was his. I think the gallery was his. Yeah. The gallery was his. Which was one of the proto-discoes that really set the tone for all of that. It's interesting, he said, the one of the thing that I when you always think, well, what did I learn from each person I interviewed? The thing that struck me most with him was he talked about how there wasn't enough disco music when disco started

in the early 70s. And he talked about... We talked about this last night. You defined some of those R&B songs as proto-disco. Yeah, he said It's danceable R&B, which is why I did an interview with Frida Payne about Band of Gold. And also because Sylvester made it into real disco when he covered it. And she had good stories about him and how he tried to sell her boots before he became a singer. He came in and looked on by my boots. Oh, I loved him. Loved him.

Who were the, can I ask a question? Please ask a way. It's a conversation. Who was the person that most blew you? Who was the most outrageous disco personality you crossed paths with? Well, there were a couple, one that comes to mind is Grace Jones. Oh, do you tell. That bitch was crazy, okay?

Bitch is crazy, all right? And the big gossip was that she stole my boyfriend. And I was like, well, he had a lot of Coke. What the fuck? I don't care. Share the wealth. He's a dealer. That was the time.

Yes, yes, but she would perform in a club like you were talking about, Frank, and she'd come on at 4 in the morning, looking like she ate jelly donuts, and she's standing there just posing for powdered, yeah, powdered, yes, of course, but they were jelly donuts. So, yeah, I'm trying to be discreet. Yeah, it's okay. Yeah, sure. Okay. And she would stand there and pose for 10 minutes, and this kid. kid next to me is going, oh, my God, are fabulous, fabulous. And what the fuck? She's not doing anything. What are you talking about? Let's move it. Let's keep it moving.

You're three hours late, bitch. Okay? But I was home. I was a little kid home watching her like on Merv Griffin. He would ask her about the gay community. And she said, oh, darling, they're overly enthusiastic. And I was like, yeah, that's a gay community. overly enthusiastic.

The Bee Gees, it's in the documentary, by the way. We'll plug the PBS documentary, which is excellent. Both are good. And we'll plug the Bee Gees. How do you mend a broken heart on HBO? Which will rip your heart out. Rip your heart out. It's beautiful. But the thought that they're getting bomb threats, and at one point they're on a talk show,

and somebody says disco, and the three of them just immediately tense up. Like someone called them an Antichrist. It was just like the word at that point was so. explosive. Yeah, they were straight white men who were guilty. They were guilty by association. They were mortified.

Band of Gold, by the way, I think it's a Holland Brothers song. Yeah, but it's under the name is under somebody else because they couldn't. There was a new label. I think they left Motown and it was a whole thing. Got to get free to paint on here too.

So how do you define a disco song? Because we were talking about this last night at dinner. You know, you have the, we talk about what the first kind of Disco song was Rock Your Baby by George McCrae? Is that generally identified as, okay, we're going to anoint this one, the first official. Is that the same as what's the one by the Hughes Corporation? Rock the boat.

Don't tip the boat. Yeah, rock the boat, which I love. Yeah, that's also. But they sound. The original disco songs that played on the radio were more instrumentals, weren't they, like the Silver Convention and Fly Robin. Yeah, fly Robin, fly. Get up and boogie. You want to know the lyrics on it?

Get Up and Boogie. That's the lyric right there. But what's the one with the commercial with the tabletop that looked like a tree stump and somebody was doing, and they were like dancing on the tree stump? I don't know. I love the sound of that. But yeah, I think, I mean, the hustle, I guess, is what people really think of.

50 years ago this year. But I mean, strictly speaking, and Corey, you're a musician. You could speak way better than I can about this. But I think it's that boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, the four on the floor thing. That's the real Defines a disco song And yet It's not on

On on Dr. Buzz's original Savannah band And it doesn't need to be Because it's I think it's Can you I think is it

Dancible R&B Can you Can you resist Moving while it's on And if you can It's probably not disco And if you hear it You're like

Well I got to dance now Then it's a disco song But I think that it's all kinds of things. That's why it's even worse that they give disco short-trift in the history of pop music, because I feel love sounds nothing like

Cherche Le Fem, and they're both genius tracks, and you can dance to both of them, and they both kind of fall under the... Or the Barry White stuff, or rock the boat, the Barry, you just mentioned the Use Corporation. I mean, the Jackson Five dancing machine, I mean, I would put, and the

BG stuff, I would say, I would, I said you last night, these are great pop songs. You hear more? Of this of whatever genre. Now you hear them in the supermarket now instead of in a club. You hear more to the supermarket. But it's good. You pick up your ziti and you hear rock the boat.

The Harold Melvin and the Blue Note stuff, which I love. I love the Philly Soul stuff. I love the spinners. And I love the OJs. And that music is timeless. Yes. If you're going to label it disco and hate on it because people were dancing to it doesn't make any sense. But then again, you know, we blew up beetle records in this country.

Well, that's the whole thing with Americans. They have to pigeon. whole everything and title everything and because they couldn't understand this new music or this music that has become in the forefront of America, they had to label it disco.

And to me a disco is a place, not the music. It's a place. It's a discotech. It's short for disco tech. But it also was, I was going to say it any kind of dance I mean, disco, if we're going to

talk about all these, they're the basis of electronic dance music, which is the hugest thing with young people. It's the basis for hip hop. They were coming up at the same time, but they sampled an awful lot of disco music. A lot of chic tracks they'd sampled

for that. And, you know, I mean, the thing that I tried to do was love the good and the bad, because I do, I mean, yes, is Disco Duck a good song? No, it's horrible. No, it's awful. Do I love it? Do I love it?

Yes, I do. Really? Yeah, it was terrible. But I, you know, I like it better when it was on the Brady Bunch Variety Hour. And Rip Taylor and Andy Davis. And Amby Davis are dancing, you know, in chick, in duck costumes. Burned in my memory. That's really my speed.

But I think, you know, you have things that's good, you have things that are good, good, in all, in all, yeah, in all, good, good and bad good. It's always true. But that's a part of history. Every genre of music had silly songs. I had told you at your, at your, you're reading at the, Rizoli, that a tisket atasket that Ella Fitzgerald sang. She hated it.

It was horrible. Right. It was a horror. And you grew up loving these people, too. We talked about Perry Como before and Tito Ponte and all the different influences in the house, but also, but, you know, Billy Holiday and Ella Fitzgerald. Oh, absolutely. You knew the good stuff. Yes.

Tell me about the band's journey. Once the single is a big deal, you guys start doing. television appearances. We talked about this outside. You show up on the Mike Douglas show. He said he was a character. He was a character. Well, he was a drinker. Okay. So his he... Let's get to it, Corey. Oh, buttermilk, sky. Oh, my God. Okay. It was a daytime show. I mean, we shot at 11 a.m. And he was already three sheets to the wind. He used, not only did he use expletives, but he used them with sexual connotations. Oh, great. And he had a live

audience. I'm like, are you serious? Are you serious? Boyfriend, what are you doing? Butterwood melt in his mouth Mike Douglas did this? Oh my God. Potty mouth Douglas. Yes. And you did the Dinah Shore show and there's that great clip on YouTube

of Dinah wandering over with Sean Connery. He's holding your album. It looked like a 45 in his arms. This man was massive. Okay. And I was like, hobba, ha'ah. I could not talk. So she was talking to Cody Mundi about doing a second song.

I think that's on YouTube also. She's trying to speak in Spanish. I think, okay. But. The whiteness woman ever. Well, I hear that her roots are a little blended. Touched up. That's what I had. Touched up.

Fruits. Alarious, Frank. I love it. But this is, again, why I love show business. You guys start this thing in the Bronx. Suddenly, you know, your people from the hood, suddenly you're standing there with James Bond on national television

and he's holding your album and it's got to be a strange kind of pinching moment for you. Because that was the first television show performance we ever did. Yeah, it was the first one. The most elaborate one we did was Polanka Special

and they did a whole backdrop of and also was shot in a sepia tone but the backdrop had palm trees and bandstands and all this stuff. And you went to L.A. for that. Well, we were staying in L.A. for the second album. We were there for about eight months.

Okay. How did you find Paul Anka? Because he has a certain reputation. He didn't have much there. He was just sitting in the audience. That was his, because it was shot on film. So we really didn't interact with him at all. Are you sure he wasn't standing up?

What did you hear about him? The guy's shirt. He was very short. Yes, he was. And he sat at a table and the table seemed lower than the others. But, you know, we don't talk about that. that. But what did you hear about Polanka, Frank? Oh, he's just, he's, I'll send you

some tapes. Deva? Well, he's famous for, he's famous for, he's famous in certain internet circles for screaming at his bandmates. Yeah, but you know what? He's a genius. Yeah, he is. The song's he wrote, my way. I mean, come on. Even the Tonight Show theme. You're having my baby.

No, I see. I know. I hate that song. That's why I brought it up. I hate that song. Hey, we'll return to fun for all ages. after this brief intermission. While disco music only had one duck, disco movies included more than just one turkey. As we'll discover on this week's edition of, well, that was fun.

Ah, Disco, it wasn't just a music and nightlife craze, because for a few wonderful years there after Saturday Night Fever, it was a cinematic gold rush, or at least that's what Hollywood thought before the mirror balls came crashing down. Take 1979's Skate Town USA, billed as the Disco Roller Boogie Movie. The cast reads like a fever dream from the Fun for All Ages Listener Society. Ron Polillo, the unknown comic, Murray Langston, without the bag. Joey Ross? I wonder if he kept his dressing room door open.

How about Flip Wilson as both the manly man rink manager and his drag king, character Geraldine, and even better, three-foot-tall comedy powerhouse and Gilbert Nemesis, Billy Barty as Flip's father. And making his film debut as the villain, a young Patrick Swayze plays the snarling heavy in a disco roller skating gang war. Nearly 30 years after filming Skate Town starlet Maureen McCormick recalled in an interview, look, there was a lot of cocaine being done on the set, which would definitely explain, hey, I know, let's slap a pair of skates on Ruth Buzzy. Heaven on Wheels, this was not.

And then there was 1980s the Apple, an incoherent West German-Canadian rock disco-dispopian biblical allegory wrapped in spandex, abominable acting, and some truly wretched music, all set in the futuristic world of 1994. The villain is Mr. Bugaloo, a rhinestone cape-wearing record label exec who makes Liberace look like Danny Trejo. The film's money shot is when the rapture occurs,

but rather than, as promised Jesus, a certain Mr. Topps arrives on the scene to whisk away the good people in a Flying Rolls Royce. Audiences actually threw free soundtrack LPs at the screen during its premiere. And today, the Apple is at least in the running for Worst Movie of All Time.

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And now back to the fun. So you guys, you're doing the circuit, you're doing TV, you're suddenly it's all happening. You get nominated for a Grammy. Yeah. That's another thrill, I would imagine. I don't want to speak for you. Absolutely. And now you're at the Grammys.

Yeah, and we're nominated with the Starlight vocal band, Wild Cherry. And you have the list of who else was it. It was the Starland Vocal Band. Oh, yeah, Wild Cherry's. Play that funky music? Yes. Play that funky music, my boy. And I thought they would win.

That was my selection. Not me. Do you remember who the other comedy? No. I should have written it down. I just remember who won, which is the one you'd go. Afternoon delight. Oh, Lord.

Skyrock. What did you tell me you still turn the record off? No, it's not that I still, at the time when it came out, I said, oh, God, switch channels on this one. Oh, boy. You can't get more whitewashed than that song, okay? And yet they're talking about afternoon. Sugar Boogie. Okay.

So. Yeah. It's a double entendre song. Yeah. Where's the double? I only know it as Sugar Boogie Day.

It's a single. Single on top. It's true. No, but it's, it's not carrot cake or, you know, ice cream sundaes.

Well, they make sex sound boring. I think. Absolutely. It sounds like, it's I got a headache time, right? Sky rockets in flight.

I don't think. Or you're a pistol. I told you. Yeah, she told me if I hear that song radio's going on. But you know, Frank, Frank was also in the book, also mentions all the movies. I mean, did you read the book? Oh, believe it. We're going to get into it. The cards are right here. Yeah, good. Okay. And then I want to ask you about your days at Studio 54.

Oh, they're such good story. Yeah. Oh, not just Studio either. Make sure you talk about the other ones, Corey. Let's jump since Corey gave me a segue. I'll jump into a couple of the movies. And the three big movies that you identify in the book are obviously Saturday Night Fever, Which is the only truly great disco movie. Yes. Now, the other ones are more fun than good, but there are at least 20 others. What about High Flying Bird or whatever the name of that thing was? Oh, Nightbird?

The porno you were pitching me last name. Oh, he's got to watch it. You can watch it online. It's called The Night Bird, and it's basically the hardcore version of Saturday Night Fever. And it's just, okay, it's got my favorite. It has one of my favorite lines in all of cinema history. There's, they're leading into a, how would you lead into a woman-on-woman sex scene? You'd have a guy say, hey, you said you was lesbians.

Prove it. That's good dialogue. Oh, God, it made me so happy. I love that. I love that. I mean, see, that's my problem is, especially with the movies. It's like, I mean, Saturday Fever is a brilliant, gritty 70s movie up there with, you know, you look at it as like mean streets, dog day afternoon, all those kinds of movies.

Everything else, you're like, should be rated WTF. You mean all the other films that they consider? It's like, can't stop. It was a high budget film. And also, I don't think it would have been a high budget film and taken. Who is it that produced? Stigwood. Stigwood, right.

He wouldn't have participated if it wasn't a story on the cover of New York Magazine. Which obviously it was hot. It was highly fictionalized. And Sandy Linser came to us and said, you know, I'd love to do this as a film. Your producer. Yeah. And you guys should write the music. and we were like, okay.

And lo and behold, I think it was brilliant as is. I think it's brilliant as is. August is such a wonderful character. Yes, he is. Stoney and I share a birthday, by the way, a little bit of trivia. Oh, February 7th.

Yes. Okay. What about, thank God it's Friday? I mean, it's got that one great scene. Yes, but okay, here's a, you watch thank God it's Friday. No one but the extras is having a good time that night. It is the weirdest thing.

It's supposed to be Carver, Wash but said it like a day in the life. Car Wash is great. I would defend Car Wash. But Car Wash people, they're happy. And he wins the disco contest. He gets to take his girlfriend. You know, they find the mad bomber. You know, it all kind of works out. Right. The hooker gets away. So anyway, with this one, everybody in, thank God it's Friday hates that their night at the disco. They're being cheated on. They've take drugs. They're not supposed to. They, you know, they're going to get in trouble because they're underage. All this stuff happens. And, and, and, and. It's kind of, is that the more where he gets locked in the stairwell? Yeah, he gets locked. Poor Paul Jabbar, who wrote Enough as Enough and Last Dance. One of discos geniuses. He gets locked in the stairwell, and his song is locked in a stairwell. So that's his trip.

But it's this movie where nobody has any fun, so that's not so great. And Donna Summer shows up as Donna Summer, and as an actress, she's a wonderful singer. And so there's that. But that's the fun thing. And then there's Can't Stop the Music, which they want to blame for everything. And if you watch it now, you're just like, okay, it's terrible, but it's so brilliantly terrible. Yeah. It is bad enough to love.

It's kind of great. One of the reviews said, Can't Stop the Music is a movie with its own Baskin-Robbins ice cream flavor. What did I say anymore? And it was true. But this is what I love. It was called Can't Stop the Nuts. So it's sort of like, if you're going to do a gay ice cream, it should be called Can't Stop the Nuts. Because it rolls.

off the tongue, if you pardon the expression. But it's, you know, it's, yeah, anyway, but there's so many others. And, I want to sit and watch them with Corey. I tell you. Oh, God, yes. We should have the screening. Yes, get the popcorn and let it rip. There's one called Abby, and there's the guy who played William Marshall, who played Blackila. A Blacula, yeah, that's in the book. You should talk about that. He performs an exorcism on the dance floor and the disco ball

explodes and goes crash. Abby is the name of it. They were going to call. We'll give you a screener. Oh, my gosh, definitely. It's in the book. So, but that was hilarious. Disco Godfather with Dolomite. We talked about that last night.

Dolomite can do no wrong in my book. Yeah. I enjoyed disco. And there's a terrible, there's a really low budget movie. I think it's called Jennifer. And it's Carrie, but with snakes.

And it's, her dad's the Holy Roller, not the mom, but her, she can, and the snakes are, rubber obviously and giant and it's the same disco as

thank God it's Friday that giant egg being held by the hands so they go to that they sneak out of school and go to that but yeah when all hell breaks loose there's snakes everywhere

and Wesley you were who was just going I think by Wesley in those days from Land and Lost is also in that movie and the problem with thank God it's Friday is it's one big commercial

for Cozablanca Records. Yeah, that's one of the problems with it. Jeff Goldblum, you would think, oh, let me watch this, Jeff Goldblum will at least be fun. Debra Winkers in it? But nobody's, except for a Chick-Vanera scene where he dances on top of the cars in the parking lot. It's dancing.

The rest is all bullshit! Yes! Best thing ever. Almost saves the movie. By the way, directed by the late Robert Clayne, who wrote Where's Papa? I didn't know that, wrote Weekend Bernie's. And for people who don't know.

Fun trivia. Who was a chick, Chick-Fennara. Chick-Finnara. He is Enrico Maas from Golden Girls. Yeah. And another character, I don't remember. Yeah, he's got the best moment in the film. But 54, the movie 54 was a big budget movie.

They use your music in that film? Yes, because Cody Mundi was one of the musical directors. So I think they did Cherokee, but it was like, like, you know, just, yes. The snippets of it. But, you know, the most, it was a high budget film. It was well done, but the most intriguing part about it was, the person that was caught in the, in the, um, the air duct and died. Oh, that was, wait, no, that was in Halston, wasn't that in Holston?

Was that in Halston? I don't remember if that's in the movie or in Halston. It's, it's, she gets in and she's climbing through the air duct and she got died. She got died. Yes, before that's interesting casting. And you knew Steve Rubel, so you're giving me another segue here. Steve Rebel was adorable. He was always high, always friendly.

And one day I just saw him on the dance floor You know all the movement is going on the dances The moon and the spoon come down And the pillars are down with the strobing lights And he's standing there with a glass That's broken and shard And I said, is anybody going to tell this guy? Oh my God

He's got a broken glass on his hand And with a drink in it Well tell us about Studio 54 in those days Because you were there in the heyday Well as I said to Frank when we did our interview, it was New Year's Eve every night. Every night. Every night.

It was, and not only just New Year's Eve, but it was that countdown. You know, that thrill when you're counting down. That's what it felt like. And did you see, were you interacting with, you know, a cliched question, what Bianca and Warhol and Holston and all the. I was brought to the VIP area and I would say hello, but I hung out with Richard Bernstein, who did all the artwork on the covers of interview magazine. Oh.

And we didn't care for. for that. We needed to mingle. And at the bar, especially, where a lot of personalities were, nice way to put it, right? Yeah. And I met Agon von Furstenberg, Prince Agon von Furstenberg, who was Diane's husband. And he was such a gentleman and so fun to talk to and intriguing. And this is, this is how I met, and the DuPont twins. And, you know, these, these, These are the people you really want to meet, not people who are sitting in the VIP section acting like hoi-fo-fo-foie, you know, she-she-boom. Where did you see the drag, the Corey drag queen? Oh, that was at the Anvil.

At the Anvil. Where does a nice... She's no tramp, but she's no lady. Oh, Lord. The Anvil was on Hudson Street or something, right on the pier. I had a friend who went and she. went in drag to try to get in and they threatened her life to throw her in the river and they said yeah who would know why was she dressed as a fellow you mean was she

in leather yes she was she went in drag but when i got there it the dancers would be on the bar and dancing on the bar and it was lots of fun great music great dj but downstairs what was happening downstairs oh i see yes and i tried to sneak down there to take a peek And, you know, I wouldn't have been able to see anything because it was pitch black anyway. It was the glory hole of disco. Yes. And they were standing in, no, no, Corey. Uh-uh.

Can't come here. That's where you said, there's a Corey Day drag queen. Oh, so there was a Corey Day drag queen. And I said, yeah, I have arrived. Because they had a Liza drag queen. They had a Barbara Streisand drag queen. I'm trying to think of the others. they would do like runway on the bar, standing on the bar.

Well, one longer. Yeah. To have your own drag queen. Well, really, that era was the Just Say Yes era, you know, to be followed by the horrible Just Say No era. But it really was kind of yes was the answer to every question, you know, especially somebody of that era. I remember this gay guy who was very influential in my life. He said the only time you should say no is when someone says, have you had enough? And I always thought that was kind of a great way to look at it.

This is a question perfectly timed. This is from a listener, Corey. Matt Hines. Could Corey talk a little bit about some of the famous clubs like Studio 54? And you talked about Xenon a little bit with me on the phone and some of the other ones. Yeah. Well, Zinom was the club that everybody went to when they couldn't get into 54. So we called it Xerox.

I see. He asked, what made these clubs so popular other than the amounts of Coke? Say that again? He says, what made these clubs so popular other than the music and the endless amounts of Coke? Fashion. Was it fashion? Fashion and libido. Uh-huh.

Good answer. Okay. It is true. Have you ever been on the mezzanine at Studio 54? Have you ever heard of what goes on in the mezzanine? I was like, we talked outside. It wasn't my generation. Oh, yeah.

Okay. Well, watch Halston. Okay. You'll know. Okay. I must say I don't remember the anvil either. Can they grab your... A lot of bobbing heads.

It went to limelight. I went to the wrist. Wait, so there was bobbing for apples. A lot of... There were, yes, bobbing for apples up there. It was a very sweet, Halloween every night. It wasn't just... And they looked like they were riding horses.

They were galloping. Galloping. Yes. A lot of galloping and bobbing for apples. Really? Okay. Bobby for apples, I imagine, but riding. I missed so much.

Oh, you don't know. Roll in, rolling, roll in. The person that was at Studio 54 was Putasa. Potasa was the star. She was the epitome of drag there. She was gorgeous. You can Google her and see everything about her. Potasa.

Potasa. And she had an accent, darling. And I used to hang out with Jackie Onasi. Oh, Jackie Onassis. I love me. That's how she spoke. Was she trans or was she? She was.

I don't think they did trans back then. I don't know. I don't know about that. I don't know the history of trans. They called her the most famous drag being in the world. She should have been. She was the most famous and the most gorgeous woman of anybody there, myself included. She was stunning.

We talked outside and I missed this stuff because I was of a different generation. I'm your brother's age. So my clubs were like Danciteria and Lime Light and China Club. China Club and the Ritz. And it was a lot less interesting. Well, I did perform at the Lime Light. I did perform. at the limelight. I did. I did and I had

the coconuts singing backup for me and I did do Cher Shade. They had a T-shaped stage and that's on on YouTube as well and I come down there and I come down the T-shape and have the people singing along at the end of the song, oh,

that's Mara. And I'm looking over way over in the back and there's a guy on looking like a hamster and a wheel like what the fuck is that. And then I realized, okay, we're in the 80s. It's China club age. Let's, okay, we'll deal with that. But I don't know if you knew about the, you didn't know about, was it a guy in a

cat, wasn't a guy? I was guys, girl, who gives a shit? I mean, they're in a hamster wheel, for God's sake, a hamster ball kind of thing. But did you know about G. G. G. Barnum's. I do not. I mean, back then, they had, they were on a trapeze. There was a disco, everybody dancing, no nets. And I don't think that EHS would be very happy with the looks of this club because there was so many fire laws and, you know, people on a trapeze going across the dance floor. And it was crazy. I missed so much. I missed people in a hamster wheel and on trapeze just without nets. But you did go to the limelight. You didn't see them there? No, no. I don't remember that at the limelight. Where was the club where they brought you out on the Cleopatra

A sedan chair. The sedan chair. They carried you out. There was a famous men's wear place called the Bonds. It was on 42nd Street or 43rd Street, and it took up the whole corner, and it had the most beautiful detail inside. Remember that chain. Bonds. It was a round into the 90s.

The sign was in Times Square for a long time, even after. Right. Big sign in Times Square. So they decided to change it to a disco. Somebody bought it. I don't want to mention names, but he bought it. And had the place redone, he preserved the marble staircase and the floors. But there was a dance floor, and it had a T-shaped stage with dancing waters behind it.

And behind that was the orchestra. I think Grace Jones was the first performer. I was the second. And they decided to do a theme. Back then, I don't know if you're aware, Frank, that they had theme parties at these discos. And they hired professionals to decorate. It was skies the limit on the budget. And so it was called Jungle Madness.

So Dorothy Lamour, me, came out in a sarong, carried on a litter by four to six muscle men that I just wanted to just shark them all. And I was carried out on the litter from the dressing room to the stage through the audience. And it was just the most amazing experience. Do you have photos of this? No. There were no cell phones. Oh, it was just amazing. My first question to her about that was, was it as much fun as I've always imagined that would be?

I mean, I've always wanted it. I know they'd have to make two trips in my case, but still, I would love to be carried out. I hope before you say goodbye, Frank, you are carried out on a litter. Oh, God, yeah. If I do, if I ever do go, not good, I do want it to be, maybe it won't be pole bears. You should be, guys on, you know, on. On that. You need to be carried.

Yeah, like on a big salad bar. Dresses, Darrylop. Like a red lobster. Dresses Daritha Lama. You and Mead has a question. This is a good one for you, Frank, because we're talking about movies. What are the funniest disco scenes in comedies? The Staying a Live scene in an airplane.

How about George Jefferson and Tom Willis on the dance floor in the Jefferson's? John Belushi and Samurai Night Fever. Samurai? All of those are. All of those are really great. Disco dancing, Dracula, and Love at First Bite, he also throws out there. And what I think is funny, Love and First Bite, they released it on home video, but they didn't get the rights to I Love the Nightlife. So you're watching this movie, and the greatest moment in that movie is when they're dancing to I Love the Night Live.

So they just put generic disco over it. You're kidding me. So when they finally put it out, I think Shout Factory put it out on Blu-ray, they made a big deal out. It now has the rights to I Love the Night Live, and the music is back to what it is. because it's really not the same because it's so funny to hear it's the perfect song for that

so to have anything else it's them dancing to disco music isn't funny them dancing to I Love the Night Live is genius okay you know my favorite movie it's the worst this is truly the worst movie of in the book

but I love it so and everyone should watch it it's worse than the porn movie is it worse than roller boogie oh way worse than roller roller boogie is Citizen Kane compared to this. Okay.

There's a movie called Nocturna. And it's about a vampire who falls in love with a disco singer, and she loves him so much that she can become a day walker and not be a vampire anymore.

And she says, and it was a woman who bankroll, she was a belly dancer who bankrolled this movie to try and really make her career for herself in real life. And she says, hi, I'm Nocturna. That means of the night.

I'm Dracula's granddaughter. And that's what she sounds like. And it's sort of like, sweetheart, you're not going to have a career as a leading lady when you sound like a joke. But you watch it. And that's the one you're just like, you're kidding me. Does it feel like a John Waters type of film with Divine? It's not as clever as that.

It sounds real clever. John Caradine Oh, who never turned down a paycheck. And Yvonne DeCarlo are both on it. And her name is Jugula Vane, I think. Fantastic. And, yeah, it's, and they take, I think they take a twin-size coffin back to the old country together.

Like, she and this vampire fall in love. I think that's what happens to the two of them. But it's, but the woman who's in it is just not, Nila, no, that's not her name. Anyway, but she's, yeah, but it's, I'm Dracula's great. That means, I just like when you say nocturnity, because that means of the night. And you're like, I never would have gotten that. Thanks. When we post this episode, you know, my fans, my listeners will come.

They'll have every bit of information about Nocturnia that you ever wanted. Are all these films on YouTube? I mean, how do you find them to see them again? Most of them I bought on DVD. Oh. Every once in a while, you have to go to YouTube. There's a movie called Disco Fever. with Fabian Forte.

Fabian. He's still around. Yes. And it's terrible. But there is a disco on a plane in that one, which is very funny. But what's the guy's name from Electric Bugaloo? Shaba Doo, was that his name?

Shabba something. You're asking the wrong guy. Shabby Sheep. I've never seen Electric Boogaloo. Or Electric Too, what is it? Breakin 2, Electric Buglew. Oh, no, it's Breaking is the movie. But anyway, he has this moment.

moment on the dance floor in disco fever. All right and put you on the spot. Better Roller Disco movie. Is it Roller Boogie or is it Skate Town USA? Skate Town is better because it's worse. Okay.

Roller Boogie tries to be something. Skate Town is terrible. Okay. Flip Wilson. The Skate Town USA has Billy Barty, Ruth Buzzy, and Pat McCormick. Flip Wilson. Oh, Lord.

Going for it. Plays his own mother as a Geraldine-like character and she's married to Billy Barty. I've not seen this, but I'm going to now. You are sold on that one now. Yeah, that is... I'm going to watch it when I get home. That's why it's so much better because it's so bad.

And it's also the Patrick Swayze. Is that the one with Patrick Swayze? And he's so... The other one is Linda Blair. No one looks good in, like Patrick Swayze in this movie. Were you watching these movies at the time, Corey? You guys were on tour. I had no time.

Well, no time. I didn't have time to listen to other disco singers. you know if I heard a song in the disco that I liked and needed to wiggle to it I would just run out and do it but I never bought the music I never I would have it you know at home I would play the radio but you know it was different back then it was in the business it's hard to hear or see other artists did you know though that it was that disco was having such a huge impact on popular culture because I I tell people, I said, it was what hip hop has been for the last 20 years, is what disco was in the late 70s. It was every TV show had a disco episode. Absolutely. There was all these disco movies. There were every, you turn on the radio and it's, Disco 92, this is Paco.

There was just no merch. There were magazine parodies. There was, yes, everything. And it was, but it was all, you take, my husband says he went to gym class and they had disco dancing as part of your, uh, really? Yeah, your dance was, was. could count as your gym class. Hey, I had a Keanu shirt in 1979. Me too.

Oh, Keanu is big. I still have my Jor-Dash jeans, but one-leg fits now. But they're so cute and their flair and, you know. Where do we, how do we feel about Xanadu, which is on the cusp because it's 1980 and discos on the Wayne? Well, they decided, it was going to be more disco, but then they sort of decided to make it everything because they heard, oh, discos out now and we have to do something else. But it's certainly better than the end. Apple. Yes. Well, I defend Zanadu, and I went to see the Broadway

musical. Oh, the musical's wonderful. With Becky Hoffman, we were talking about last night, turns up and there. And to see Tony Roberts on roller skates was worth the price of admission. And Chey and Jackson's thighs should have been nominated for Tony. They were the most perfect thighs have ever been on Broadway. John Farrar, by the way, doesn't get

a lot of credit as a songwriter. He's brilliant songwriter, Olivia Newton-John's collaborator. Zanadadu was a lot of fun. It was also interactive because you could either sit back behind the show on the stage or you could sit in the front and watch the show. So I did both. I did both. I bought tickets for each night

to do both. I love when there's a line in it where he says, do you realize this is children's theater for gay 40-year-olds? And it was like, yes, it is. It's such a good musical. Okay, here's one for you. Frank from Sean Gallagher. The book looks great. Is there any discussion about

what I would call flyover disco? I'm from Springfield, Missouri, in average-sized town in the middle of the country. We had half a dozen discos in the late 70s. Were people role-playing Saturday Night Fever around the country, or was this limited to the big cities? Pretty much every hotel, every holiday inn that could install a light-up dance floor or a smoke machine or a disco ball was doing it. And it was a short amount of time in the late 70s. But yeah, everyone tried to cash in on it. And it really was the thing that people did.

It was all-inclusive, and, you know, Cleveland had an amazing disco, I think it might have been called Night Moves or something, but it was, and that's in the book, and Chicago had Dugans Bistro and the Paradise, which were both gay clubs, but were very much the place to, you know, every celebrity had to sneak into the gay bar Dugans Bistro for those years that it was open. Yeah, it really was a thing. and I go into a lot of the places that opened. I just mention, because when you start doing the research, and especially if you look on like newspapers.com, you're really looking at the page from a newspaper from that era, and you're reading, you know, here's the on Long Island.

The teen disco on Long Island has just opened and here's the article on that. And then you're here in, you know, in Kansas, we're doing this disco. There were roller rings on Long Island where I was and there were to disco nights. When you guys were touring, You said you spent eight years and eight months in L.A.

Were you just making an album or were you guys doing personal appearances and clubs? Well, that was the time that we were doing the shows. Okay. And recording our second. Actually, our band was so large they couldn't afford us or wouldn't pay for us. When I watched the band and there's the bellhop singers and there's Kodi Mundi, there's August. And we had horn players. I mean, everything was live.

Everything we recorded was live and we had a song. 17-piece band, and they wouldn't pay for it. And as time went on, and the economy started declining, the same thing happened. We couldn't work. But we did promote a lot. And at the time, that was, when we were in L.A. for that eight months of 1977, that's when we were nominated for 1976 Grammys. We were creating and recording our second album, and that was on Warner Brothers, not

RCA. We had divorced from RCA and Tommy Motola. So and so that was a major move and we were and like it took the same amount of time to record the second album as it did the first. Funny story though we were not at the time Saturday Night Live was very big because it was they started in 75 October and it was 77 when Karen Black was hosting and requested us. Oh. And we were on our way back from recording but Lorne Michaels likes to

have rehearsals, dress rehearsals and positioning and all that. We wouldn't have made it. We made it that day. We didn't make it on SNL but we did hang out with Karen Black that night. That's fun. And the cast. You know, the original cast and it was exciting. It was so much fun.

What was the best venue you guys played as Dr. Buss? We were sort of the Ritz. The Ritz, which is now Wabster Hall. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I saw some good acts at the Ritz.

Yeah. We were like the house band there. They allowed us to have as many musicians as we needed, and it was so much fun. What was the best TV gig? The best TV gig, I think, was the Polanka special, because they went all out for us. But Tony Orlando was good also. That's on YouTube. Yeah.

Tony. Tony Orlando came out with a vulture. Yeah. Very enthusiastically introducing you guys. Yeah, he was funny. He was, we went in the dressing room to say hello to him during a taping. And he was sort of talking about his best friend, Freddie Prince, and throwing coke over his shoulder for him. You thought it was salt, but it wasn't.

Oh, my God. How strange. Well, it was that, it was a sign of the times. I'm sorry. It just was part of the times. Don't apologize for it. Oh, I'm not. It's just when people...

So what if you were in a hamster wheel? Hello. But people are ages now that are still doing cocaine. You want to go, are you in your mind? I don't think anybody is, are they? Oh, I think they do. Still happening. Not as much.

There's always something. I think kids in their 30s are buying condos and property. It's cut with Meta-Busel. As it should be. Oh, yeah, I wouldn't trust it. Talk to me to, to Frank, about some of the more What shall we say? As a kind word, unusual disco albums?

There was a Bill Cosby disco record called Disco Bill. No. Yes. I thought, you think it's like. Did he rap or he actually sang? It was boogie on your face was one of the names of the songs. Well, boogie on. Coming from him.

Yeah. Okay. We've all had boogie on our face, but still it was during an allergy season. But everybody from Marilyn Chambers to the singing. It's nuts. It was a disco version of Dominique. Yes. Can you believe?

Remember Dominique? Yeah, yes, yes. It did a disco version of that. But the Bill Cosby one was the OMG of the whole thing when I finally saw that. I called the guy who did disco Lucy. Remember dance, dance, disco Lucy. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. It sampled the I love Lucy thing.

And I called him and he was a good interview. It was really funny. But he said, yeah, Lucy. He said, I got a call. And they said that Lucy wanted a copy. So I sent it. And he was like, or Desi wanted to, that was Desi. Desi wanted a copy.

So I sent it. And he was pretty great. But yeah, it's, I think it's funny. Oh, Disco Duck was terrible. It's like compared to DiscoRilla, which was the follow-up, Disco Duck is a classic. Okay. Disco Rilla is really where you're going to draw the line. Oh, my gosh.

You know, also, I mean, real rock acts were getting into the, we're getting into the disco business. I mean, Elton cut a disco album, McCartney. had just say good night tonight. Good night tonight. Rod Stewart. Do you think I'm sexy, right? Hello. Had you had a little love.

Even the stones. And you find the stones miss you on a lot of top. Disco hits. Oh, yeah. Mix as, well, it's disco, but it's not disco disco. And it's like, well, tough. Still running away from the world. Yeah.

But yeah, it's funny. There's a Beach Boys disco record. That one I've not heard. Superman counts as a club track I was made Kinks I was made

for loving you by a kiss I love that someone said to me is the Ethel Merman disco album in your book and it's like

do I look like an amateur it's got its whole section on the I know it does because it deserves it is

I think it's really funny there are Ethel Merman disco album deniers just like there are with the Holocaust they don't believe

it happened they're just like they you know and I know they're not quite the same thing but they do say that's

And really, it was like, no, there really was an Ethel Merman Disco album. And who gave Ethel that advice? That was not necessarily good career advice. Right? I think it was Paul Jabara. Yep, it was. But, you know, at that time, they took songs that were not disco songs and we'd put the four-four to it and speed up the vocal. And there you have it.

That was it. A dance music. You have a dance song. But she does not seem to know that she's singing disco. She's just singing the way she always sang it. And you know what? Good for her. Good for her.

I have to say, though, I cannot listen to the entire Ethel Merman disco album in one sitting. You know, but... I don't blame you. Usually, I can do the whole thing of anything. You know, I could sit... I sat through the disco exorcist's, you know, Abby movie. I love that. I have to say that the version of Alexander's ragtime band is not terrible.

No, it is. Yes, it is. Supposedly Irving Berlin signed off on it. He was probably... I love it. Well, are you serious? Yeah. That he said...

She said that. She said he said it's the best version she's ever heard. Oh, God. Yeah, but he had one foot in the banana peel and the other in the grave. It's true. He was in the drool academy, probably talking again. Boyfriend did not know what was going on. Yeah, thank you.

Let me read one last question from a listener. Sean Anderson said, I spent my youth buying into the artificially manufactured disco sucks mindset. It wasn't until decades later that I allowed myself to realize and recognize the joy inherent in this music. And now I truly think there is no. such thing is a guilty pleasure because life's too short, so love what you love. He is healed, and he's offering inspiration all of us. There you go. He's been, he's been healed. He made amends with his parents.

Good. No, it's like, why not, why not like everything? You know, I always, it's like when, you know, when I'm talking about country music last night, too. Oh, I love when, oh, my truck broke down and my dog is dead and, you know, the worst it is Oh, it's so good. But it's like, I don't understand. That's riveting.

But don't you feel like, I always say to be it, look, it's great to go to Petrosi and eat caviar. It's great to go to chilies and eat wings, okay? It's like you should do everything and you should go see. Every place has it special. You should go to the L.A. Philharmonic or the New York Philharmonic and you should also go see ABBA when it's there, it's not even really ABA.

It's sort of an AI version. That's good, too. A hologram of ABA? Oh, I want to go so Bo. Oh, I love ABA so much, but I'm so too much. I bought an ABBA

oversized t-shirt. Well, it's oversized t-shirt. But it's oversized T-shirt. But it's the trading cards. It's the whole T-shirt is the wrapper of the trading cards. So it's this awful drawing of the four of them with the word

Abba right across my chest. And it says trading cards across my tush. You know, it's hilarious. What is the point of trading cards in ABBA? They did, like, collecting cards. During, you know, during the disco era. Like bubble gum cards? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay. There were village people trading cards. There were Saturday Fever trading cards. That's right. And I have met them. But no can't stop the music trading cards. Oh, they're probably. I'm sure there were, you know.

Worst. So bad it's good. Disco TV. Are we talking about the Chips episode? Are we talking about the Chips Roller? The Brady Bunch singing carwax. while dressed as the characters from a Wizard of Oz. All good.

Where are we going? I have to say they're all... Where are we going with us? All of those are really good. By the way, every, every Barnaby Jones, every one of those stars get hutch, every one of them is about a killer and a disco. Yeah, it was a strangler. Yeah.

They're all those Charlie's Angels. They're two Charlie's Angels disco episodes, two chips disco episodes. One Saturday night, or one Jefferson's called Every Night Fever. Right. But that was funny. Two-parter of... of W.K.R. P. and Cincinnati. There's a Barnaby Jones.

Right. There's a, there was a show called I Shide with Joe Don Baker. Sure, I remember that. That was disco. And it was, this is what I love. When people say it was disco everywhere,

the I Shide Disco episode about a disco killer was opposite the Playboy, Playmate, Roller Disco Pajama Party. Talk about that for a second. Yeah, well, somebody just sent me the whole, I've only seen clips so far, But somebody's like, don't tell anyone, but I have the whole thing.

And here it is in Dropbox. So they sent me, I haven't watched it yet. But, yeah, they did this show. And it's sort of like, it's, you know, it's the village people because they did everything. And, but other people, but it's sort of like, here are the playmates and here, you know, and they're on skates. And it was funny. My editor said, trust me, we're going to rope in the audience because we're going to put them. The first photo, one of the first photos you see in the book.

is the Playboy Playmates on roller skates, and she was right. Oh, my God. People are like, oh, that's great. And I was like, what's the plot of that Chips episode where every actor on the lot shows up in the roller rink. They're doing,

he's put in charge of like the entertainment committee. And so they have to round up every 70s celebrity ever. Suddenly there's Nancy Colt. It's a benefit. Yes. And on skates and everybody else. Now, if they would have really done a whole lesbians on skates, like Nancy Cope,

that would have been. Amazing. If you could do dikes on bikes on bikes at the beginning of the bike ride, you could totally do lesbians on skates for a TV. It's polite and nice. But yeah, no, it was not...

I just love... And we knew we were friends with Marsha Wallace, and she's like, oh, God, you wouldn't believe it. Yeah, it's like, Marsha Wallace, and she comes right. They all turn up. They all turn up. They're estranged.

50 years... These songs are 50 years old officially this year. Lady Marmalade. Protodisc. Jive talking. Disco. Get down in night, and that's the way. I like it by Casey and the Sunshine Band.

Carol Douglas' Great Doctor's Orders. I hated that song. You don't like that song. Interesting. How about Love Roller Coaster by the Ohio players? Say what? I know. Do you like the Donna Summer stuff?

I love her. Love to love you, baby. What did you like about it? And then, you know, what I didn't like about it was that Georgia Marota went techno and sort of like dissed actual orchestrations. But it was something that, was part of the future and maybe we can utilize that and it has been done in music and it doesn't sound as authentic people know when you have an when you actually have an

orchestra as opposed to techno but she she had an amazing life she was an amazing singer did you get to know her at all I did not I did not we were in different circles but you know Tommy Tommy when I went solo he said go see see Adana Summer Show, and I saw in Forest Hills for the Bad Girls tour. And she was amazing, amazing. And it was inspirational to me, you know, because as a solo person and where she came from and the abuse she came from, and, you know, women were exploited, but not just by the record industry, but they were exploited by their, even their soulmates exploited them. And there was a lot, there's a lot of stories out there about women.

in the disco era that suffered, who suffered. And she came through, and her way of showing that she had a vocal capability of being a singer outside of disco was MacArthur's Park. Even though it was a disco 4-4, her chops are amazing. That's a fascinating piece of music. Yes. Absolutely.

Absolutely. Absolutely. It's so weird. Yeah, but, you know, it wasn't a far. stretch because, you know, when Richard Harris did it, you know, hello, not so great a singer, great song, Jimmy Webb wrote it. Oh, Lord, I was such a fan of Jimmy Webb. But it's such an odd idea to make that a disco song and then to make it a suite that's the entire side of an album. But also Chrissy Hines state of Independence. Somebody did a dance version of that.

Donna. Donna. Yeah. Let's wrap there too. Fabulous. Because they'll give you a segue because Corey's very touching talking about Donna Summer. You had done an interview with Donna Summer years ago, misplaced the recordings. 1999. Do an interview. And I cannot find the notes to save my life. And I'm someone who's like,

I can tell you the five things I've thrown away in the last 40 years. You know, it's like I really don't get rid of stuff. So I couldn't find it, the whole thing. And my husband, who is a Virgo and is the most, yeah okay that this is the sound of a Virgo he's sitting out there

okay he is listening to you no because Scorpios are kind of like oh it's wonderful Virgo's like could you elaborate on that to find that those notes so I thought what I couldn't find

the notes so I thought wait a minute did I tape the lunch that I had with Donna and I found this little cigar box kind of thing way in the back in my storage and sure enough there was a micro-cassette recorder and about

eight tapes of things and two of them were the two hours I spent with Don the summer. So glad you bought a micro-cissette recorder because mine was dead and you had to buy them vintage, you know, you have to buy them on eBay because they're complete now. Nobody meets us and I'm sitting there with the digital

recorder next to it. It's real high-tech. Not even a cable connecting them, just next to each other. And I'm going, don't break don't break, don't break, don't break. And I played the two hours and I digitized the whole thing. And so there's an interview with Donna

in the book that's never been seen before because the story I was writing, all they wanted was like, I'm painting now, I'm Mrs. You know, whatever her husband's name is, Mrs. Sedano now. And my kids are this and I ride horses and I do it.

So none of the stuff about her career is there. And so I had all the stuff that nobody had ever seen. And so that's in the book now, posthumously. So I hope that Donna... It's a nice capper. It is. Because she said my music is for then and now and forever. And I was

like, what a great thing. But that's the way I feel about disco. And even the synthetic stuff you were talking about a minute ago, I interviewed Pete Bellate, who wrote, I feel love, co-wrote, I feel love, and Love to Love You Baby. And he said, it's kind of perfect. He said, I feel love is still kind of maybe the best

disco song because he said it's this computer generated noise that doesn't care if you live or die basically and it's just going to play dum-dum-dum-dum-dum-dum for just the whole thing and it's just going to keep going and there's Donna's vocals

over it, you know, and these ethereal vocals and that's kind of disco. That's how you get the ethereal vocals of someone like Corey Day and the techno of what came later in disco. It's a lot of range there.

Yeah. And Corey, as a vocalist and as a female vocalist, is there a song that would fall under this genre that you think I really wish I had a shot at that one I really could have done something with that one

anything at all You mean what's recorded today? No, I mean these classic disco songs No I love what I did I love what I did There are certain songs that I would have liked to have done But like I said we were not

The songs we did that were uptempo were danceable We used the African hair drum and the 4-4-beat, and it was like the heartbeat of everything that, every track that we did. But the vocals were very airy and light and jazz-oriented, and there are jazz songs that I would love to do a jazz album, but, you know, I met somebody, I met a woman that I befriended, and she said her husband was, this was about 10 years ago, she said her husband was a producer, and I said, oh, do you think he'd be interested in producing me? I'd love to do a jazz album of the, you know, the classics that I grew up with and Latin and jazz and swing. And she said, no, you're not 18. Now, I would say I'm not 13.

So, you know, if anybody out there wants to produce me, I'm ready. Okay. Corey's waiting for her moment. Can I just mention, please. Can I just mention the lyrics in your song Pow Wow. That's a fun one. Oh, it's so fun. But when you sing, and now my teepee's cold and empty, that makes me giggle so much.

I love it. I know it's not politically correct, but it makes me giggle so much. It is not. Because it's just. Single again is great, too. I told you, my wife and I have been getting into it. And we might. Look at the comments on single again.

Somebody said I was in my bedroom. I had just been dumped and I'm in my bedroom. And my friends came over and made me get dressed and go out while they were playing single again. and that was great. But back to the Donna Summer thing, I do want to mention, the play was horrendous. The play did no justice to Donna Summer at all.

Summer, the Donna Summer Musical. Yeah, on Broadway. Okay. That was produced by Tommy Mottola and his wife, Talia. And now he lives on the road again because of this music. Cory, no like.

My best friends and I bought tickets for them. I spent almost a grand on them, and we sat in the third row. It was the previews. And my friend and I are talking about, this is horrendous. This is horrible. The director was sitting behind us.

Oh, these things have. Nice word. Because, you know, the producer came out and he was talking and he announced the director and the director stood up and we went, ah! He's behind us. Oh, no.

It does happen. And it's usually, it's not when you go, I didn't like this. No, we said, what are they doing? Well, they had three Donnas, three Donnas, the youngest Donna, Teenage Donna, Disco Donna, and Older Donna. But they kept jumping back and forth with, you know, instead of going in sequence, they kept jumping back and forth and someone would jump out on stage, it's young Donna,

then old Donna, then middle Donna, then young. It was horrendous. And a dead Donna was the worst. It brought it the screaming hogs. Oh, it was terrible. But what was, we was like, oh, my God. Our jaws dropped when the director stood up. Oh, God.

I saw it twice. That's, see, that's what I, you know, my. That was a hara. Oh, it was terrible. But I, people were like, people said, was it good? And I said, no, but it was fun. And they, you know, because I really can, I can divorce. Oh, you saw it too?

I saw it twice. Oh, Lord have mercy. No, I just because it's, I do. I'm very good at divorcing, good and fun. Something can be terrible. Did you find it fun? Yeah, I thought it was really fun and terrible. No, that was terrible, but I really enjoyed it.

I did not have fun. Maybe because I paid $1,000 for the tickets, maybe. That might have been a factor. I was upstairs, and I think they were 59 or 60. Yeah, okay. That's what they should have been. Yeah, that's what they were. You know, it was fun.

You two guys were fun today, and, Corey, I appreciate your candor to say the least. Well, I hope you edit out some of the expletives. Just the names. I have a... We'll edit out some of the names. I have an image to maintain. That's fine. Yeah, no.

How about no? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for your honesty. I love you. I love you. You really.

I had a good time. Isn't he the best? You are the best, too. Oh, my God. But I'm telling you, I just, I have such respect for the two of you. Thank you, my friend. And I know you like, I know you like me as well, and that makes me really happy. But poor Corey didn't have a chance.

I was like, I'm going to be your friend. There's nothing you can do about it. And I was like, all right. Okay, yeah, she was good. Oh, all right. Every project you do, you know, people are like, oh, I'm friends with people in my old job. Oh, come on. There's one person at your old job that you stay friends with.

Maybe one, you know. But it's sort of like, you know, every project I do with a book, it's like, I'm going to be friends with this person. But I did find it, you know, with all the people that Frank interviewed in his book, when he did the read-through at Rosoli and involved. I invited me to be on the panel with him. I just found that to be such an honor. It was a highlight. It's something that I treasure in my memory bank. I screamed when you said yes.

Hi, Dave said yes. Well, I felt similarly when you agreed to do this, Corey. Oh, Frank, stop. Oh, Frank, stop it, Frank. You're a gym. I didn't scream, but I was very happy. So I win is what you're saying, Frank. Yes, you bested me yet again to Carrow.

I want to thank the two of you guys for coming out here. and spending such time, such quality time with me and going down memory lane. These are great stories. Thank you. You make me want to do a podcast by showing us how it's really done. You're very, very, really do. Very, very sweet. Let's talk about, let's just get the plugs in real quick.

Next year is the 50th anniversary. It is the 50th anniversary. I do want to do something that's really special. Kid Creole, August Arnell said he would be here. Cody Mundi will be here. Unfortunately, we've lost. Stoney. But I do want to do an installation of the birth of the songs because we have tapes of

the creations of the music that we did as opposed to the final product. And I'm trying to find a loft space. So if anybody out there has something, you know, so. Put it out there. Yeah, put it out there. Maybe the pop music or the pop culture museum in Seattle needs to know about this. I'm a big kid Creole fan. I told you, I saw him down at the World Financial Center with Cab Callaway.

Yes, yes. Absolute treat. I performed with him at the pier. At the time, the peers were doing the summer stage kind of stuff. And there were people as far as the eye could see. And it was amazing. He's an electric performer. But I did meet Cab Calloway.

When we won the Stereo Review Award, he came up to me and he sang to me, love me or leave me. Oh, he buried the lead. I was like, oh, my God. That is a great story. Didn't he, Heidi, Heidi, Howell, wasn't that? Oh, yeah. I did the moocher. Tell us, and plug the book.

Let's get it out there. Okay, it's disco, music, movies, and mania under the mirror ball. Clearly, I like alliteration. It has been called by the writer of I Feel Love and Love To Love You Baby, the best book on the subject ever. I define it. It is. It is on Amazon. It is the cheaper on Amazon.

I know you want to be mad at Amazon, but because of Mr. Bezos. But still, it's Wedding, what do we mad at him for? Oh, we're mad about it. Gaze or Mel, we're mad about it. And get Frank's previous books. Oh, look, with the economy today, Amazon is okay. It's true.

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