Gilbert Gottfried's Amazing Colossal Podcast - GGACP Classic: Bad Ape Movies

Episode Date: November 27, 2025

GGACP celebrates Thanksgiving 2025 by revisiting this ridiculously in-depth 2018 analysis of some genuine "golden turkeys," featuring one of Gilbert and Frank's favorite topics: apes and gorillas. I...n this episode: Gilbert breaks down “Old Dracula," Jerry Lewis threatens to sue Sammy Petrillo, Raymond Burr turns into a gorilla and Bela Lugosi tries his hand at comedy. PLUS: "Return of the Ape Man"! William "One Shot" Beaudine! The strange case of Barbara Payton! And the unusual proclivities of Lionel Atwill!  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:00 colossal obsessions with the poster child for Hey guys I have to interrupt Can we start that over When I went to hit stop To play my soundbite
Starting point is 00:02:15 I actually stopped All right we'll call that a rehearsal You're now officially Ready? Yeah Our engineer Frank Berter Rosa fucked up again Now you might not know this
Starting point is 00:02:28 but this is the second time I'm going to be introducing this show because Frank fucked up again. I'm Gilbert Gottfried and I'm here with my co-host, Frank Santopadre and this is another episode
Starting point is 00:02:46 of Gilbert and Frank's amazing colossal obsessions and we have the poster child for Munchausen syndrome By proxy Raybone How's your Munchausen syndrome by It's okay but one of these days
Starting point is 00:03:06 I'm bringing my proxies And you'll find out You're not one of those anti-vaxxers are you No Get your shots Yeah From Munchaus and by proxy Gil how are you
Starting point is 00:03:15 I'm still laughing Because Joel Gray just left Hysterical And he put us on And it was great and fun I okay Yes I was working
Starting point is 00:03:26 Some club at a and I was watching TV and on comes a movie we mentioned. Oh, no. Old Dracula with David Niven. David Niven and Teresa Graves. The late Teresa Graves, yeah. Now, this is, the plot of the movie was Dracula's bride, I guess, somehow turns black. And he wants to turn her white.
Starting point is 00:03:56 turn it back to white and so the movies I can't describe how bad it it had a different title that I can't remember right now and they they tried to cash in on the success of young Frankenstein by crassly naming it old Dracula exactly it's just shameful
Starting point is 00:04:16 and I this is what you do on the road by the way when you're this is how you entertain yourself that was one of the better movies I saw Couldn't find an event, Mimi, you. So I don't want to spoil it for any of you who's streaming life was to catch old Dracula. But the ending of the movie is she bites him at one point. And then his back is to the camera at the end.
Starting point is 00:04:48 And he turns around and David Niven is in blackface. Oh, just when you think it can't get worse. David Niven and Blackface. Thank you, Arnie Cogan. Yes. They're still showing this. Yes. But that's strange, that they wouldn't have just buried it somewhere.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Yeah. In this day and age. Without the Blackface pod, it would have been worth burying. Well, we had it on our list of bad Dracula movies, and I guess it was an appropriate addition. A good edition. Paul, how the hell are you? Not too bad. How are you guys? I want to just quickly thank a couple of fans. I want to thank our fan Michael Eslinger, who sent two books. He sent a book about escaping from Alcatraz, which I guess I gave you. Oh, yes. The last time we were here, and he co-wrote Julie Dawn Cole, and she is Varuka Salt from the Willy Wonka movie. He co-wrote her memoir, and he sent Gilbert N. I copies. Baruka Soak is a Jewish holiday
Starting point is 00:05:53 Yes Yes I won't be working It's Baruchasol So I want to thank Michael We will read these books with great interests I want it now is the name of the book It's Julie Don Cole's memoir
Starting point is 00:06:08 From the set of Willy Wonka And also I just want to thank Steve Hanna For that fantastic comic book The Thanksgiving comic books you did Of you being slid into the very funny in the oven by a turkey I just realized what I'm saying he really nailed the look
Starting point is 00:06:29 of those old very yeah those old I'm amazed at what people's he's got great talent so thank you Steve keep him coming I didn't bring my phone with me where I left two messages on it so I'll have to
Starting point is 00:06:44 well I was too typed out messages but somebody said that he remembers the theater I was talking about. Yeah, and King's Highway? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. On Fort Hamilton, because he said it, I think it was a low 64.
Starting point is 00:07:04 And was it? I don't know. You know what's funny, we put that up on Facebook. We asked people after the Malton episode, post your theater, post your neighborhood theater. And people, it's great. If you go to the listener society, I know Frankie's looked at it. but 100 people, at least, posted pictures, in many cases, defunct of their local movie house. And it's just great to see them from all over the world.
Starting point is 00:07:28 This guy says he also saw Death Wish at that theater. And that theater now is a furniture store. Oh, that's depressing. My beloved Cross Bay Theater in Queens is a Models. Oh. Yeah. It's where I saw five Planet of the Apes movies in one day. The cameo theater in Crown Heights, I think it became like a church or something.
Starting point is 00:07:55 It's sad. Well, I don't know how to do this, Frankie, but at some point, maybe we'll get some listeners on the line and we'll just talk about old movie theaters. You know, we'll pick five or six people. Oh, and I saw it, I don't even remember the title of it, and we're going to have them on next week. The Jew and I replay. Oh, you saw the band's visit. Yes. The band's visit.
Starting point is 00:08:18 I had, when the men I started watching it, I said, I saw this movie. Yes, it was a movie. Yeah. Yeah. And I remember seeing the movie. Yeah. But the guy, the guy at the ticket booth, said, oh, he goes, I know what theater, you saw Death Wish in. So he's, oh, it's the same guy who listens to the podcast.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Yeah. I know that guy it will call. And he named, he named a different theater, unfortunately. That guy, I was interviewing David for something to do with CBS, and I went to, and he was nice enough, his publicist was nice enough to give me tickets to the band's visit. I went to Will Call Window with my wife. Yes. Same guy, and I give him my name, and the guy lights up, and he says, from the Gilbert podcast? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Oh, and I said, you listen to the show, and he said, we all listen to the show. He said, broopy. Yeah, it was so magical. It was really great. We actually have an episode for you, Gilbert. Oh, okay. You did so well. I put Paul on this, too.
Starting point is 00:09:16 and he, Paul had a good time. I think it ruined his Thanksgiving. Yes. It was good for my Monkhausen. Good for his Monkhausen. It's good. He needs to stay active. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:09:27 You were such a trooper with the bad Dracula and the bad Frankenstein movies. That and our friends, John Fodiatus. We should have a whole new category, Bad Dracula movies and Blackface. Yeah. That's really drilling down. Show Old Dracula, you have to see David Niven and Blackface. It can't get worse.
Starting point is 00:09:53 That's this week's recommendation, David Niven, and Old Dracula. It sucks. The alternate title was David Niven puts in a new pool house. But Eric Rine specifically and John Fodiatis, two of our buddies, have become obsessed with your numerous references to chimps. Yes. And there's a Chimp Friday or Monkey Friday or something that they do on Twitter between your Sunset Boulevard Chimp references and now. Does this have to do with the movie The Ape Man? How do you, did you know that?
Starting point is 00:10:29 I thought when you said Chimp, I thought Baylor-Logosi and the Ape Man. Well, you get ahead of me, sir. Because I thought, and I called Paul and I said, what if we did ape movies, bad ape movies? Not having anything to do with Planet of the Apes. or even Kong knockoffs. But these are guerrilla films. When I was a kid, well, you could take a drink of scotch now, everybody listening. I just said when I was a kid.
Starting point is 00:10:59 And I'd see a gorilla there. I'd always think, oh, this, they're saving money on monster makeup. They dug into the closet, got out the guerrillas. Right, like murders in the room work. Yes, yes. Yeah, which is the first one I want to mention from 1932. Well, he's Dr. Miracle. Dr. Morocco.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Yes. Yes. Who appeals to the people, who appalls the people of Paris. Not appeals to them. I'm reading this. I'm reading this. This is a wonderful article written. No, he appeals to them.
Starting point is 00:11:31 In the movie, they go, oh, let you go see, very attractive. He appalls the people of Paris by exhibiting a gorilla, which is alternately portrayed by an actual chimp and a guy in a guerrilla suit. And I'm sure it matches so well. Yeah. Injecting them with blood. There's a kidnapping. Made it. There's a whole thing. I'm taking this by the way. I want to give credit to Trav S.D. who is a wonderful motion picture and showbiz historian. And he did an article in the Downtown Express where he basically, he's a man after your own heart. He basically talks about the ape and the ape man. And we're going to go through them. Yeah. Really quickly. Before, can I say one interesting thing I found? Please do. Yes.
Starting point is 00:12:13 You might think that people in their careers would occasionally don a guerrilla suit for a movie or two. Bob Burns, our guest, yes, yes, famous. But it turns out that there are many people who have made entire careers out of wearing guerrilla suits. And one that will come up, I think, later in the show, was... Was that one of him, Johanna's... What was that... Stuntman named Steve Calvert. Steve Calvert.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Wasn't there stuntman Bonabot or something? I don't know, but it turned... The main way that you got a part as a gorilla was to have a guerrilla suit. Steve Calvert bought a gorilla suit in 1948. For the rest of his career, he was a gorilla. In a day at the circus with the Mawks Brothers, Groucho said that they had a guerrilla suit. This guy went to them. And the stuntman was passing out because he couldn't breathe in it.
Starting point is 00:13:10 so the director punched holes in it and when the guy found out about it he took the gorilla suit back and he left so they got another gorilla suit and they said like it it's like one gorilla's half the size of the other in the movie what do you what do you want to say about murders in the room morgue okay with your beloved bala lagosie yeah murders in the roug morgue was you know it's not much to talk about because it was actually a fairly good movie. Yes, yes. But I almost didn't mention that one because it outclasses the other movies on this list. The ape man, though.
Starting point is 00:13:48 We didn't get there yet. We're going to go in chronological order. Oh, I'm sorry. I just remember he was Dr. Miracle. Yes, Dr. Miracle. Anything on murders in the room, or? No, but I do have, as long as we're going chronologically. And it was an Edgar Allan Post.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Yes, it was an Edgar Allan Post. Yeah, that's right. According to some of this web research, somebody named Charles Jamora. Does that ring a bell at all? No, not at all. Was the first to specialize in guerrilla portrayals, including in the 1927 silent film, The Guerrilla,
Starting point is 00:14:20 which was not about a gorilla. You might think the gorilla was about a gorilla, but actually it was about a man who dressed up in a gorilla suit, very contemporary. I got to see that one. That's disturbing. Who knows if we even have time to get to these? I think David, they've been in it.
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Starting point is 00:15:53 Celebrate the season with Hulu, available on Disney Plus in Canada. Okay, Gil, that was 1932. Murder's in the room. And it's actually not bad if you overlook the guerrilla suit. Yeah. And the fact that they intercut. They used both a gorilla suit and a chimp in the same scene. What about the gorilla from 1939 with the Ritz brothers?
Starting point is 00:16:17 Oh, my. And Bela Lugosi and Lionel Atwill. Wow. Do you know anything about this one? That seems like one of those movies I probably saw one afternoon years ago, but I don't remember any of it. 39 horror comedy starring the Ritz brothers Lionel Atwill, Bela, and Patsy
Starting point is 00:16:39 Kelly. It's based on a play. Oh! Yes, clearly, by Clifford Odette's. Yeah. When a wealthy man played by Atwill is threatened by a killer known as the gorilla, he hires the Ritz brothers to
Starting point is 00:16:52 investigate and a real escape gorilla shows up at the mansion just as the investigator's arrive. Okay. Patsy Kelly portrays a maid who wants to because the butler, played by Bayla Legosi, scares her. All right. I don't see how that could be bad.
Starting point is 00:17:11 I'm surprised you don't know. A baila film you don't know. I was kind of interested in Lionel Edwill, who I wasn't familiar with. He was the one-armed inspector Krogh, Krogh. Yes, you don't know Lionel Atwell? That's why I hang around with you guys. Lionel Atwill. Parityed in Young Frankenstein by Kenneth Morgan.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Lina Latwell actually got in a bit of Errol Flint Trouble. Correct. Yeah, there was some kind of weird sex parties that he arrived at his house. There were multiple people involved. That is correct. Yes, let's move on to one you might know, Gilbert, called The Ape. Are you
Starting point is 00:17:47 familiar with this one? And who is it? From 1940. This was directed and produced by William Nye and co-written by Kurt Siedmak who was actually... Oh, that he wrote the Wolfman. He sure did and many many others, a house of Frankenstein and many many others. This one starred
Starting point is 00:18:03 Carloff. Dr. Bernard Adrian is a kindly scientist who seeks to cure a young woman's polio. All he needs is spinal fluid from a human to complete the formula for his serum. But meanwhile, a vicious circus ape has broken out of its cage. And is
Starting point is 00:18:20 terrorizing the town people. The ape breaks into Dr. Adrian's lab. But the spinal fluids he requires to perform his experiments have been destroyed. So he will tear off the ape's flesh, use its skin to disguise himself as the escape circus animal, and murder townspeople in order to extract their spinal fluid. Sounds like an intelligent plan.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Like it's a well-thought-out plan. It's a social commentary, I think. And Ray Crash Corrigan played the ape. Oh, yes. He was one of those guys that wore the ape suit. He was a career ape man. Made a buck wearing an ape suit. The play had a pro-look.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Of course, it's also based on a play. Oh, jeez. This is bizarre. It had a prologue set in India where an Englishman killed a sacred ape and a Hindu priest put a curse on him. Okay. This is Karloff in 1940. Was this an archaeo one? It is a monogram.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Monogram bottom of the barrel. It has a poignant ending. It's not quite blackface, but this guy gets shot at the end. And as he lays dying, the woman that he's been trying to help. stands up from her wheelchair and his apesuit fades and you can see the troubled doctor himself. There you go. I'm getting choked up. I can see the tears.
Starting point is 00:19:41 It was the final feature in Karloff's six-picture contract with monogram. Yeah, monogram was like the bottom of the barrel in horror. Filming took all of a week. Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah. But the L.A. Times called the film engrossing and said Karloff shows himself a skilled player of the slightly eerie. There you go.
Starting point is 00:20:01 I'm a gorilla. Oh, you've been asking for the ape man. Yes. From 1944. And here it is. Directed by, take a wild guess. Oh, is it, Bodein? William I one shot, Bodine.
Starting point is 00:20:15 My favorite drink is. And he is experimenting, as all these mad scientists do, with serum. Yeah, another serum. From monkeys. Serum du jour. And he, of course, um, for some dumb reason, either by accident, he hits himself with a shot of the serum, and he becomes a half-ape, half-human. Correct.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Now, I think his mother, it's so ridiculous because another subplot is that his mother is a clairvoyant. I don't have that here. Yeah, like, he's like, unless that was in devil bat, but I remember... He's a sister who's a ghost hunter. Yes, yes, his sister. And I think there's a camera crew at the house to film his sister who's a ghost. And if I'm not mistaken, one of these, either the ape man or... or Devilbat has some, what's his name?
Starting point is 00:21:34 Oh, fuck. Fuck. Okay, give me a head. This, no, this one I know. Ted Healy. Oh, Ted Healy. Oh, my God. Porter.
Starting point is 00:21:44 I don't have Ted Healy on this list. Hey, waste of time. Oh, you. Yes. Look up Ted Healy, Baila Legosi. Yeah, see what you can come up with. I can do that. Because Ted Heed.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Healy plays a smart talking reporter. You think it's in this one? In the ape man? It could be. Could it be, could it be in return of the ape man from 1944? You want to know something? Return of the ape man doesn't have shit to do with the ape man. I know.
Starting point is 00:22:15 It says it right here. The return of the ape man. No connection. They like the title. Right. But this has to do with bringing a caveman back from the dead. Yes. allegedly another monogram classic yes and allegedly it was supposed to have starred george zucco
Starting point is 00:22:37 but George zucco is not in the movie although he has third billing yes he has third billing because monogram was so fucking cheap that it would cost money to make a new frame for it so they left George Zucco's name. Well, what it says, if you trust Wikipedia, George Zucco is co-credited on screen and he's in the publicity, along with an actor named Frank Moran as having played the ape man, but his presence in any scene of the Finnish film is doubtful. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:10 One still photo of Zucco in Monster Makeup and Legosi's Lab has been identified. The producers later explained he became ill during the filming. Ah. Or he was deemed too old to carry out the role or that he simply refused to play the part. or if we go with your theory, they didn't want to pay him. Yeah. Yeah. But John Carradine's in it too.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Yes. Professor Gilmore. Yes. What were we looking at? I'm Professor Gilmore. It's very good John, John. You were looking up to see if Ted Healy. I got all this stuff about the Three Stooges.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Yeah. Yeah, but is Ted Healy and the Three Stooges? That's where the Stooges started out. Oh, all right. See what you can find as I move on. And Ted Healy. get the impression was kind of like the Moe
Starting point is 00:23:57 when they were together like he would slide in it in. Yeah, I believe that's true. Yeah. And Ted Healy died in that bar and the bar fight. Yes. Supposedly punched out by I think allegedly Cubby Broccoli. Yes. The producer of the Bond films and somebody else. Did you know this?
Starting point is 00:24:12 Yeah, I did know this. Yeah, we talked to Billy West about it. And I think it was on the day his son was born. Something like that. He just gave birth to a and he got drunk, he was a terrible drinker, and he got killed in a bar fight. I'm impressed by how much you know about return of the ape man.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Yes. This says they bring a caveman back to a lab and thaw him out, but the caveman can't talk to relay what he knows. So Lagosi decides to transplant part of a modern brain into his head. Carradine refuses to participate. He has ethics. It will be murder. Legosi tricks him with an electric floorplate that paralyzes him, yet somehow allows him to talk.
Starting point is 00:24:58 I will put a human brain in his body. Your action, chances, sir. It's the barrack. Thank you to Trav S.D. for all of that wonderful information. You know way too much about Return of the Eighth Man. Here's another one starring your boy, Lon Cheney Jr. Do you know what I'm holding in my hand? wait wait wait uh well it can't be the gator people it's from nineteen fifty one we've jumped from thirty two oh wait i know it i know it he co-starred with raymond burr you got it and and it was and it was written by kurtzi adamant directed by him even yeah and it's it's basically
Starting point is 00:25:47 like the wolfman star well it was uh yes it's the one, it's bride of the gorilla. Yeah. Is what you're thinking of. Yes. And by the way, Kurt Zadmack wrote House of Frankenstein, The Wolfman, son of Dracula, and Frankenstein meets the Wolfhead. Yes. So he had some, some credibility. Yeah, and, and bride of the,
Starting point is 00:26:06 oh, I think it's Beverly Garland. It's Barbara Peyton. Barbara Peyton, she died a horrible death. You referenced her on a previous episode. Barbara Peyton, I think, like, wound up being a hooker. in the last year I have some gossip here but what do you have on Ted Healy
Starting point is 00:26:25 and Apes? Not much it's he I can't find anything on apes He played like a Weiss-cracking reporter Well it says he Influenced several comedy stars Marsha Healy
Starting point is 00:26:37 His sister Was with the Three Stooges In the Sitter Downers Is that ring a bell at all? No yeah no Gilbert's looking for an ape connection Yeah I can't
Starting point is 00:26:48 I'm working on it The Ape connection Are you sure it was an ape movie? I found an ape connection but I swip right I got a little bit on Barbara Peyton who I thought was interesting
Starting point is 00:27:02 It was definitely a low budget horror shit film. I'm looking at all of the I'm looking I'm on the IMDB page for Ted Healey. Ted Healy playing a wisecracking reporter. I don't see anything. Meet the Baron, fugitive lovers lazy river, Paris
Starting point is 00:27:18 Interlude. I don't see horror films here casino murder case mad love 35 oh maybe that's it with peter lorry is that the one Peter lorry he's in that Colin Clyde an insane surgeon's obsession with an actress leads her to replace the pianist husband's hands I know that one the penis husband yeah and and now
Starting point is 00:27:41 could that be it yes and in bride of the gorilla it's it's a Raymond Burr who has the wolfman part except that he turns to a guerrilla instead of a wolf. Correct. They've got a gypsy woman in it. Yep. But Lon Cheney Jr. is the sheriff. He's police commissioner Taro. Yes.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Now. And apparently Raymond Burr took an immediately dislike, an immediate dislike to Cheney. That two of them hated each other. Yeah, that's interesting. And they were both alcoholics. Right, right. But what's interesting, when Kurt Zatomac was writing the wolfman. His original idea was it that you weren't sure if he actually does turn into a wolf or if it's something that he's imagining. That's interesting. And so Universal said, no, we want a monster. Yeah. And in this movie, you're not sure if Raymond Burr is actually
Starting point is 00:28:47 turning into a gorilla or if he just goes crazy from what the gypsy woman seems very confusing yeah it was shot in 10 days by mr seadmak i don't think they took a lot of time no although for william bodine 10 days was like a david lean shoot oh yes uh it was referenced in a mash episode bride of the gorilla oh the first season of mash it was spoofed on ms t 3 000 uh but you'll really you will particularly spark to this. And I think you said this or referenced this on a previous episode. Barbara Payton's husband was Franchotone. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. You know where I'm going with this?
Starting point is 00:29:28 Okay. He got beaten up by, I think it was the actor from Detour. Well, that's not what I'm referring to here. According to this, he suspected that she was cheating on him. So he paid a private eye to spy on her. And the private eye found her in bed with Woody Strode. Oh, my God. I got another one that might be where Gilbert was going. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:29:53 It's right here. At one point, she had two boyfriends at the same time. Frenchot Tone. And the guy from. Yeah, he was the star of detour. They fought almost to the death for Barbara's affections. And I heard what happened was Tom Neal, who looked like he was on his way to some kind of, you know, successful acting career. he beat up a Franchetone and it turned the whole country against him.
Starting point is 00:30:23 That's fascinating. So she married Tone after this almost fight to the death. Barbara Payton. And stayed with him for seven weeks and then went back to Neal. Yes. So she was a little loopy to sleep. Gilbert, you know your Hollywood gossip. Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:38 And I heard she then was like people were paying her to have sex with her. So she came to a bad end. Yeah. One director of producer slept with her, and he gave her less than he usually paid her, and he said, well, you're not worth as much as you used to be. Oh, my God. I heard she slept with William one-shot Bodine, and it only took him 11 seconds to reach climax. Are you proud of what you know about Barbara Peyton?
Starting point is 00:31:07 No, yes. By the way, your favorite, Edward G. Robinson was originally cast in the Burr part, as Barney Chavez. Oh, my God. I love Raymond Burr playing a Latino. It's as ridiculous as Charlton Heston playing a Mexican in Touch of Evil. Yeah, but instead of C, he went, say,
Starting point is 00:31:26 say. Robinson was fired after an arrest for writing a bad check. Oh, my God. How about that? Wow. Isn't this good trivia? Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:39 I say it every week. Do not call this, say this show is not educational. That leads us to us to. to my last ape related picture. And this one I have seen. Yes. Thanks to Drew Friedman. Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:50 And it's time in my life. I'll never get back. I know it. I know it. I know it. This is by the classic comedy team of Mitchell and Petrillo. There's no stumping you, my friend. And it was.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Gilbert, the mic goes in front of your mouth. He meets a Brooklyn gorilla. He's wandering off mic again. Yeah. Bala go see me to Brooklyn Gorilla, Sammy Petrillo and Duke Mitchell. Right, you are, Simeon Brith. And Sammy Petrillo, he was a Jerry Lewis clone.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Yes, indeed, he was. Drew Friedman turned me on to this movie many, many years ago. It's scary to watch. He's obsessed with it. He's also obsessed with Sammy Petrillo. Oh, yes. It's a scary film to watch. show. For the wrong reasons.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Yeah, yeah. Apparently shot in nine days, it is the only existing film record of Duke and Sammy's act. Oh. Such as it was. Yes. If in fact they had an act, and this may be bullshit, but producer Jack Broder
Starting point is 00:32:58 put Bala in the picture because Bala told him he wanted to do more comedy. Ouch! He should have kept looking. He was in 1952. Here's one for Gilbert. Ramona the Chimp in this movie was played by who? Ramona the Chimp?
Starting point is 00:33:17 Gilbert, didn't you go out with Ramona the Chim? Romona the Chimp was played by Cheetah from the Tarzan movies. Correct. Oh my goodness. Ramona the Chimp opened for Gilbert at the comic show. In the early 80s. She got top billing. Mickey Simpson was Chula, the man's service,
Starting point is 00:33:38 and Milton Newberger was Bongo the Wings. Which doctor? Yeah, this is a low point for... You'd think this is Lagosie's lowest point? It's pretty low. Yeah. Lower than Ed Wood. He also worked with the Bowery Boys.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Yes, yes. The original title of this was White Women of the Lost Jungle. Somebody. Somebody decided to capitalize on Bala's good name. And under that title, David Niven wanted it to do it. According to producer Herman Cohen, Jerry Lewis was furious when he heard that Sammy and Duke Mitchell had formed a team that was imitative of his act with Dean Martin and that they were
Starting point is 00:34:23 to appear in a film together. So Gary Lewis, Jerry's eldest son, was quoted as saying, when Sammy and the other guy played in that gorilla movie, my dad and Dean said, we got to sue these guys. This is no good. Lewis knew Jack Broder through the Friars Club of Beverly Hills, showed up in his office. the two got into a screaming match over the film and Lewis stormed out yelling obscenities.
Starting point is 00:34:46 There you go. I remember the name of the law firm. Yeah. It was Flovin and Flaiven. Flaven and Flaven. Oh boy. Is this ever depressing? This is fun too.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Decades later, Martin Landau watched it three times in preparation for his role as Lagosi in Scott and Larry's wonderful Ed Wood saying it was so bad it made Ed Wood's films look like Gone with the Wind.
Starting point is 00:35:14 And there you have it. We want to thank Ned Hastings, who is our fan that came up with this gift for Gilbert. This is a DVD collection called Sons of Kong. And on here are ten cinema classics, including The Ape. Yes. Bella Lagosi meets a Brooklyn Gorilla, the Gorilla, the Gorilla, the ape man, and bride of the gorilla. This is our show right here. And it throws in for good measure
Starting point is 00:35:42 The Savage Girl, White Gorilla, Law of the Jungle with Manton Morland, Nabonga with Buster Crab, and White Pongo. So enjoy that. Wow. So when I knew I was going to give that to you, I said, there's a mini episode idea.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Not a stinker among them. All gems. Yes. Well, Gilbert once again has astounded us. I think it's fair to say. Not a cough and a car load. Now see if any of listeners can identify that one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Gilly, what do you think? Okay. You've outdone yourself once again. I thought I thought I was proud of myself with the bad Frankensteins. Yeah, but so we hope that John Fodiatis and Eric Rine are superfans dine out on ape movies and guerrilla movies. I did. I'm surprised how much I know about bad. Tell the truth.
Starting point is 00:36:41 You can't wait to get the shrink wrap off that. Oh, yes. In the DVR. He also sent you Zero Hour, which is the movie that Airplane was sending up with Dana Andrews and Sterling Hayden. Worth watching. It's utterly ridiculous, but it's worth watching to see that they were actually almost shot by shot. Spoofing Zucker and Abrams. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:04 And they've got all the lines in it from Airplane. So thank you, Ned Hastings, for the gifts and the inspiration for Gilbert's new favorite episode. Yes. Ape movies, bad ape movies. Thank you, Paul, for your research. That's it. That's all I got. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:23 And we left out any of the Three Stooges movies with apes in them. There's always another week. Yeah. Okay. Speaking of Three Stooges, one of our last, what episode? One of our last mini is Gilbert and I was. talking about this. What's the connection between Moe, Robin Williams, Mickey Mouse, and Silicon Valley? Good Lord. Oh. You better tell them because we're at the 35-minute mark.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Same actor played all of them. Oh, yeah. It's the guy from the guy from Dimitopoulos, Chris Domenopoulos. It was weird because Gilbert mentioned the Moe movie, the Three Stooges remake. Very good. And then later on in the same episode, I think we should explain what we mean by a Mo movie. He played Mo. Boys in the band. He played Moe in the Farley Brothers Three Stoge's picture. And he played Robin Williams in a Robin Williams.
Starting point is 00:38:25 That's good trivia, right? And he's the voice of Mickey Mouse. Very good. All right, as long as you're doing movie trivia, I'm going to sign off with this one and throw this out to our listeners. Okay, Dustin Hoffman and Jack Nicholson. played essentially the same person. One actor played him by his name. One actor played a character based on him.
Starting point is 00:38:51 And I'll throw this out to our listeners. I need the two movies and the two and the two characters who are basically the same. Basically are the same person. No, no guess because we're throwing out to listen. Was there guerrilla? There was no gorilla. There's no guerrilla Ray Corrigan shows up
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