Gilbert Gottfried's Amazing Colossal Podcast - GGACP Classic: Remembering Chuck McCann

Episode Date: December 4, 2025

To coincide with this week's "Fun for All Ages" episode about 1960s and '70s New York-based kiddie shows, GGACP revisits this tribute to local TV legend Chuck McCann from 2018. In this episode: “Cool McCool”! Rootie Kazootie! Stan Laurel comes to America! “The Heart is a Lonely Hunter”! And Chuck founds The Sons of the Desert! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hi, this is... Hello. Ah, fuck me. This is Gilbert and Frank's. Amazing colossal obsessions. And I'm here with my co-host, Frank Santopatra, and old black shoeless Braybone. Oh, my God.

Hey, you blues. Ha-ha, guitarist. You may have noticed that portraits of me are taking over our social media of speaking here. Did you see that? Did you see the guy that made you into Gene Rayburn? Yeah, there was no, but there was also one with a guitar and the blind lemon raybone or something. I have trouble understanding you with that strong southern accent of yours. I got the blues, baby.

Yeah, that Cajun accent is very hard. You've become something of a celebrity, Paul. Well, thanks to this show. The way that when they dress me up in that suit, I thought, you know that's pretty much you're a minor internet celebrity yeah i mean what what could one dream of so yes gill uh a little quick housekeeping for this many episode okay wait okay what do you got you're a little loud i'm a little loud mine all right i'll lower okay hang on is that better yeah that's mine mine's okay yeah yeah okay yeah okay

Now I can't hear a goddamn thing. Don't blame the microphone, Sid. You wanted to... Sid and Marty. Yes, to be continued. Sid and Marty Croft will be coming up on an upcoming episode. And Gilbert and I have been thoroughly enjoying the research. Oh, yeah.

And we'll tell you why soon when they come up. Just a couple of quick things before we start what we're actually going to talk about for this mini. But you wanted me to read something from a fan. Yes. This is from a guy named Neil Holmes. He wrote something very nice to us about the mini episode, one of the many episodes. I don't know how I missed part one of the Mr. Kelly's episode last week, but listening to both today was the high point of my day, and I'm grateful.

Not to put any pressure on you, too, but you guys are really the keepers of the flame in so many areas of our cultural history and deserving of great praise and gratitude. Isn't that nice? Yeah. Yeah. Keepers of the flame. Keepers of the Flame is exactly the right. That's exactly like what we wanted this show to be. A history project.

Yeah. Yeah. To keep these people's name alive, to keep their memories alive. You know, there are several dozen graduate students studying the show. Yes. I get emails from the most interesting people and all over the world. Japan, Australia, the UK, Ireland, people, you know, I didn't know who this person was, but thanks so much for...

That's the fun. That's the fun. Somebody I never heard of and I turned out to be great. Yeah. Jackie Martling, I ran into Jackie at Chillerfest. Ha ha ha ha ha.

A hooker. A hooker. And I drunk. He loves you. I walked into the child. I went to, I took my wife. A midget and a blind girl.

Ha ha ha. Is that Jackie or the Jackie Puppet? That's what are you doing with you, Billy West. Jackie grabs me a Chillerfest and he says, holy shit, Tony Sandler. He said, I had to drive 50 miles out of my way to finish the episode. Oh, wow. He loved the Tony Sandler episode.

That was a great one. That was a history project, that episode. And I talked to Tony on the phone and he was just so grateful to do the show. Says, send Gilbert, my love, Gilbert. What, the funniest thing about with him, it was so European. Oh, yeah. Because he would talk to us and he'd go, Frank, Gilbert. Yes, he kept referring to us by name.

But he was old-school showbuses. He wouldn't trash anybody. No. Until we turned the mics off. Yes. We got the truth on a few people. And when we asked about Jerry Lewis, he just didn't. say anything

to us he did but Tony is very grateful to have done the show he said he heard from people in Belgium wow he heard from other people

in London who got the show on iTunes and he said his phone was ringing for days and he was so grateful see that's

that's one of that's one of those things that we'll hear back from people will get like tweets and stuff from people we've interviewed and say,

I can't believe the amount of attention I'm getting now. Yes, it's flattering. He also invited my wife and I to stay with his sister in Provas, which was very nice. Take him up by that. For the summer, which I just may take him up on. I just wanted to say at this con, the Chillerfest, I also saw Ed Begley.

I had not met Ed. Oh, yeah. So I wanted to go and kiss the ring. I had not met Eddie Disen. Oh, so I went and I got a big hug from Eddie. He stopped what he was doing. ran out from behind the table and hug me. Our friendly

Grant was there. She sends you her love. She adores you. I don't know what she sees in you, but there you have it. Our pal Steve Weber was there. Oh, yeah. And Jackie. And I booked two guests, one that I told you about

and one that I can't mention. A rabbi and a hooker guy. No, not Jackie. Yes. I also want to thank my friend Greg Razor, who helped me out a lot that day and helped us, helped me with the bookings and my friend John Fodiatis, who put up with it for an entire day and is still talking about it. And our friend Stuart Hirsch, who helps put that. Oh, yeah. Stuart Hirsch and Matt Bekhoff who helped book that show.

And I also want to thank an artist named Martinus Von T, who sent us some wonderful artwork that I showed you. For some reason, you were colored green in the art. Did you see this art? I'm going to show it to you. He sent an acrylic painting. It's absolutely wonderful. Gilbert looked like Shrek in this room. Yeah, it was a really great caricature of Gilbert.

And he's in South Africa. I got a package postmarked South Africa. I had no idea what it was. There was another photo because I, you know, I always talk about being turned down for a role because they wanted Billy Barty. Sure, which you'll have to tell Sid and Marty. Yeah. Because they worked with him a lot. And someone put this photo together of me with my eyes closed like I'm sleeping angrily

and Dara's there with Billy Barty. That was Steve Hanna. Yes. That was our favorite artist, Steve Hanna. Very funny. Wasn't that great? Yeah. The things that this show has spawned.

Yeah. Rather disturbing. Spawn. Spawn is the right word. Yes. The spawn of... Two other quick things we want to all... I did want to thank our friend Gary Girani,

who came here and did two wonderful episodes about Tops Trading Cards and brought us all those great books. And Twilight Zone and Outer Limits and The New Blu-ray, the new Blu-ray edition of The Outer Limits has Gary's commentaries on them. So get those. And here's the surprise, Gil. This is fun. One of our fans named David West writes me on Facebook,

and he writes, Frank, I wanted to pass this along to you. I was in an autograph show and I had the honor of meeting the great Bruce Dern. Wow. One of our former guests. One of our former guests. I arrived at his table to get a picture and autograph.

The show had just opened its doors and there was no line at the booth. After we said hello, he asked me to sit so we could take a photo together and I mentioned how much I enjoyed him on the podcast. He stopped what he was doing, looked at me and said, that interview was one of the most pleasant surprises

of the last 40 years. I'll tell you something. That Gilbert is one smart motherfucker. That's awesome. And those guys really did their homework on me. I proceeded to tell him how much you guys are like that with all of your guests, and he said he would love to hear more stories if I wanted to tell more. And then he said, I would gladly do another episode if they wanted me back.

Oh, well. And there's a picture of Bruce. Oh, wow. With David. So we have to get Bruce. Well, Bruce Stern, if you're listening, you have an open invitation. Oh, we got to get him back. Would that be fun?

He was one of my favorite people of the many, many people who've talked about the craft of acting and what makes things work. He was incredibly insightful. Absolutely. And I don't know how old Bruce Dern is now. He's probably in his late 70s or early 80s. I got it. I'll have it for you in 20 minutes.

Go ahead, Paul. Oh, okay. You know, I'll have grandkids when you'll come up with the answer. Because Bruce Dern, I mean, he's been well. working for years. And I mean, he was talking to us about how he just wants to get better as an actor. Oh, yeah. It's wonderful.

He's pure. Yeah, and he's one of these actors that I thought, holy shit, we're talking to Bruce Dern. I know. Well, that was a turning point. I've said it many times for the show in terms of booking. Yeah. That we could land Bruce Dern. And to have Bruce Dern say,

that Gilbert, he's a funny motherfucker. Isn't that great? What do you got, Paul? I'm getting a born 1936. 1936. What does that make him? 82. That's right.

Yeah. Yeah. Nice work. Your own theme music now. Every time I come up. It's like the Joker and the Ridler and the penguin all had their own theme. Right. Oh, yeah.

Or just the shark and jaws. Oh, the shark. Yeah. Now you have your own accompaniment. Quickly, I want to. mention some people we've been hanging on to this for a couple of weeks because we had many episode guests uh some people we lost in it in the month of april the great me did we ever talk about losing marty allen we did we did yes yes we did um and we'll get we'll get more of that

oh yes in memoriam show yeah oh yeah at the end of the year um milosh foreman died the great director of scott and larry's people versus larry flint and also man in the Moon, but Amadeus and Cuckoo's Nest and the great Czech director. And Hare, a good movie that a lot of people don't talk about. Yeah. And I would also urge people to see his two movies that he made, lesser movies or lesser known movies, Fireman's Ball, and taking off with former podcast guest, Buck Henry. Oh, wow.

You know these movies, Paul? I don't know. See them both. Of great director. Would have been fun on this show. I think he was a talker. Yeah. Arlie Irmi.

From Full Metal Jacket. Oh, that's, yeah, the Sergeant. And Mississippi Burning and, yeah, and many other things. And I heard he was just called in to Full Metal Jacket to coach. I believe he was, a consultant. Yeah. Yeah. And then they heard him and said, fuck it.

Why don't we just get him? That's the story. Kubrick liked what he was doing. Vern Troier. Oh, yeah. Passed at 49, Minnie Me. Did you ever work with him? No.

Or spend time, spend any time with him? Oh, wait. I did. I did. I was on an episode of Hollywood Squares. With Vern Troier. Yeah. There you go. And they said he also, he had like a drinking problem.

I guess he had some demons. And he was suicidal. Yeah. So Gilbert, you would say it was a little upsetting. Here's somebody you definitely worked with Harry Anderson from Nightcourt passed away. Oh, that's right. Yeah, Judge Harry. Yeah.

Nice guy? Yeah, I remember. 65, too young. I did, um, I caught about three times. And then a couple of years ago I was walking down the street and I ran into him. We had a nice, a short talk. A very beloved guy from all I, I never met, had the pleasure of meeting him. Very friendly guy.

Yeah, my friend Chris Lewis, who wrote for Nightcourt, loved him. Uh, Mitzie Shore. Oh, yes. Passed away. I know you knew Mitzie. Yeah. Yeah. And every single comic will do a Mitzie Shaw imitation. Every one of them.

Sure. She ruled the comedy store with an iron hand. And I think, like, I remember I was already in all the New York clubs, and I went out there at L.A., and I auditioned one time, and they had some guy there, and he didn't pass me. Uh-huh. And then another time, I'm pretty sure I was just hanging out there. and Bob Wall was on stage and he saw me and he, you know, we knew each other from New York and he said, hey, come up. Oh, Robert Wool.

Yeah. And I went up there and afterwards, Mitzi said, oh, you know, come back to the club whenever you want. You're, you pass. There you go. Praise from Caesar. Yes. A club that was, I believe, started by her husband, Sammy Shore. and Rudy DeLuca.

Oh, that's great. We have to get on the show. A former partner, writing partner of Barry, the former podcast guest, Barry Levinson. And it's all so incestuous. It's all connected. Barry Levinson, Rudy DeLuca, and Craig T. Nelson.

Used to be in a comedy. They sure were. They sure were. We talked about it with Barry. My wife hears this stuff and she says, you've got to get a giant piece of oak tagger. Did people still say oak tagger? Poster board?

Right. And make a flow chart of how all the games. Like those things in the murder shows where the cops have the yarn going from one connection. All the guests connect up. You could connect so many of our guests by so few steps. Here's somebody who passed away, Susan Ansbach from Five Easy Pieces. Yes. And play it against Sam and the landlord and a movie I like with Richard Dreyfus, The Big Fix.

I know you're a Five Easy Pieces fan. Oh, yeah. And she didn't work much after the 80s. Yeah. Like a lot of actresses that made a big. Mark in the 70s, kind of faded fast. Here's somebody, Paul and I were talking about. In five easy pieces, they had that

famous scene with Nicholson arguing with the waitress. Oh, sure. This is great. On a chicken salad sandwich. And she goes, you want me to hold a chicken? I want you to hold a chicken between your legs.

I love it. I love it. Michael Anderson died. You know he was? 98. He was the direct. director of Logan's run, Orca the Killer Whale with Richard Harris,

the Quiller Memorandum with George Siegel, and around the world in 80 days with David Niven. He was 98. Around the world, 80 days with everybody. Everybody. Tentenfloss. And Bo Derek was in Orca. She is in Charlotte Rampling.

And if you haven't seen it, you owe it to you. Just see Orca? Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty bad. And somebody that Paul and I were talking about on the phone, Bob Dorro, who was 94. It's a jazz guy. He jazz guy, yeah. And relevant to this show because he wrote the songs from Grammar Rock and Multiplication Rock.

Yeah. Like Three is a Magic Number. He did a real offbeat Christmas song with Miles Davis. Yes. Merry Xmas, you know. Yes. And he worked with Blossom Deary. But he wrote, beloved to us because he wrote Conjunction, Junction, What's Your Function?

And lolly, lolly, lolly, get your adverbs here. Three is a magic number. Yes, it is. It's a magic number. A tribute to Bob Durrell. You know these? Do you know these from Schoolhouse Rock? Gilbert?

Did your kids do Schoolhouse Rock? No. Oh, okay. They're missing out. They are missing out. My daughter's teacher plays them Schoolhouse Rock, and this song is how she learned her three times table. So there you go.

Wow. She sings it in her head and then... There you go. You're not talking about School of Rock. No, no, Schoolhouse Rock. Bob Durow died at 94. And this is a fun one. Don Bustani.

This is Danny Durrani, who's been on this show and a publicist who's friend of the show. You remember Danny? He was the guy that was here, and he talked about catching Betty Garrett when she fell off a ladder. Oh, yeah. Yeah, saved your life. And Danny's a friend of the show. He helped us book, lots of people, Lilliana Douglas. Anyway, this was his cousin, and he was, he said, you should get my cousin Don on the show.

He was, it didn't work out for whatever reason. He turned out to be the Don from the infamous Casey Kasem Meltdown. Is Don on the phone? Oh, wow. He was the greater of American Top 40. We'll have to. With Casey Kasem. We'll have to play that on this show.

That's a famous clip. See if we can find that and we'll go on, well, have Frank. The countdown will begin. Oh, there is. We'll go out. We'll go out on that. You're on the radio station you grew up with. You know, the famous meltdown with the snuckles the dog. But my favorite part of it is he says, is Don on the phone?

Where were the pictures I was supposed to see? Well, that's Danny Durrani's cousin. I think we should do a mini episode on all of those. On the meltdowns. On the meltdowns. Yeah, we should do it. We should do it. Jack Palance.

Oh, it's a bunch of them. A bunch of them. Yeah. Casey. Of course, Paul Anka. Which we talked about with Billy Webb. And Buddy Rich. We will return to Gilbert Gottfried's Amazing Colossal Podcast after this. Get no frills delivered.

Shop the same in-store prices online and enjoy unlimited delivery with PC Express Pass. Get your first year for $2.50 a month. Learn more at pcexpress.ca. So let's get to Chuck McCann. Oh, okay. Who we lost, who was a friend of this show. But I should say, oh, the midget. Vern Troyer?

Burn Troyer. Do you have to say midget? Yeah. A little person. And I went out to dinner together. And when the waitress came over with the check, he said, I'm sorry, I'm a little shod today. It took you 15 minutes. She came up with this.

I have a strange way of painting. I've been a bad influence. So Gilbert, he now comes back with a joke 15 minutes after we talked about the guy. That's the Paul research timing. And that's like us during an interview will go, okay.

And, you know, he'll be talking about how he wants to, someone will talk about how they want to be remembered when they die. And we'll go, okay. You started off. Well, we tried to do a tribute episode to Paul Lynn when he, on his 90th birthday. You just, you spent the entire episode slandering the man. It was a strangest tribute episode.

So left-handed tribute. I hope that Chuck McCann fairs better in this. We love Chuck. Chuck was an early episode. Yes. And I went back and listened to it. And it's really sweet. It's on Stitcher if you guys want to find it.

finding. Brooklyn Kid, born in 1934, Charles John Thomas McCann, a real Irishman. So we got to get him up on social media because I looked at him when you mentioned it and started. He's like so many people who've been on the show. You might not know the name. You might not know what he did, but the face is unforgettable. You've seen the face everywhere. Oh, people know Chuck McCann. Sure. And where the general public would know Chuck McCann from years ago are those Wright God commercials. With Bill Fiore. Yeah. Bill Fiori, he would have been an ideal guest for us. You like that, huh?

Yeah. These obscure guys that are known to just you and me. And about four other people. Like his own family does know. Let me explain. Yes, Bill Fiori was the sort of hound dog looking guy. A little bit of a Gino-Cinforti type, as we've mentioned. And he was the guy on the other side of the medicine chest.

And Chuck McCannot says, hi, guy. And that was Bill Fiori. Always played depressed. Yes. He always looked like the loser. Almost like a male Louise Lasser. Yes. That makes any sense.

And end, like downtrodden. And he was in the swimmer. Yes, he is in the swimmer. Very good. Who was he in the swimmer? When they go to the swimming pool, the public pool, they run into them there and there's people like Bert Lancastero's money to. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And they're there and they're going, oh, gee, Mr. Merrill, going to the public pool, huh? I think Chuck did one of those right guard spots in Grouchos on the other side of the medicine chest. And he said in the interview that Groucho, I lived like a block away. They went back to Chuck's office and sat there screening old movies for hours and hours and hours. Chuck's also in the infamous turn-on. The George Schlautter show that was canceled before it got from the East Coast to the West Coast. We've talked about that show. I think it was canceled during the first commercial break.

It was hovering over Oklahoma somewhere. Chuck canceled while hovering over Scranton. Chuck and his pal Tim Conway were in that. But Chuck worked his way up in Kids TV. He was on Captain Kangaroo on Rudy Kazooty early in his career. He's on the Vaughn Meter album. He's on First Family. Did you know that?

No. Doing voices, and he did a lot of voices. He was the original Sonny the Cuckoo Bird. Yes. Before Larry Kenny. Yes. Who sat in that chair, succeeded him. He did Cool McCool, Bob Cain's show.

He was a secret agent. Of course, Far Out Space Nuts with Bob Denver. That's a Sid and Marty show. There's another connection. And I was watching that yesterday. And it has him and, yeah. You were watching Far Out Space Nuts. Yeah.

Oh, you were doing Sin and Marty research. Yeah. So him and Bob Denver are janitors at NASA. And he goes, okay, we got our lunch. And the machine goes, lunch. And that is the... That's the premise.

Yeah. Yeah. Now they're in outer space. I don't think that one lasted very long. What was the one with... Shockingly. There's one, there's another one with Jim Neighbors. And, uh, is it the, um, a space one?

Yeah, not far out space nuts. Oh, God. I'll say, the lost saucer. I think the one with, there's one with Jim Neighbors and Ruth Buzzy. Wow. Does this, does this mean anything to you? No. Okay.

I just, I just, the classic line of Jim neighbors. I'm sorry, I said this. Of, Dolly Parton, while his boyfriend said, he wanted to fuck Dolly. pardon and she goes you're going to fuck that cunt in the pussy and then

think you're going to fuck me in the ass? The Chuck McCann episode has taken an ugly turn. The loss saucer is right. Yeah, the law saucer. It was September 6, 1975. How many episodes?

It's September 2nd, 1976. number of episodes 16. That's not bad. I'm not even sure far out space nuts made it that far. We better put one of these up on social media too because neighbors in a silver metallic suit. It's not to be missed. Here's some more cool shit about Chuck.

He was one of the founding members, you know this, of the Sons of the Desert, of the Laurel and Hardy tribute organization. Now, did Chuck McCann then buy up all the rights to? I don't know. But, you know, Mark Evanier will know, and he's coming in in a couple of weeks. So we'll ask him stuff about Chuck.

They were close. A former podcast guest was one of the co-founders of Sons of the Desert. Do you know who? With Chuck and an artist named Al Kilgore, who I knew. That's another story for another day. That's when we interviewed Edgar Kennedy. No, no, no. The other founding member, one of the other founding members of Sons of the Desert was Orson Bean.

Oh! Who was on this show? How about that? Orson Bean, both Orson Bean. when both Orson Bean and Dick Van Dyke told us that they were friends and in their early days would go to the zoo together to watch a monkey who jerked off. You know, we have more weird monkey content on this show.

The chimps, the cunnlingish chimps from Sunset Boulevard. The sequel to the marquee chimps, but that was, they were very famous. Yeah, I knew you were going to go there. They were very famous on the Ed Sullivan. Cunneling his chimps. You've got me thinking like you. There was the Nairobi Trio and the cunolingus chimps. The Nairobi Trio, wasn't it Steve Allen?

No, that was Ernie Kovacs. I think the cunolingous chimps were part of the British invasion. I didn't know that. I knew everything about the British invasion. They came to America with the Dave Clark Five. We've done stories about chimps ripping people's faces off. the chimp that bit Danny Bonaducci We talked to Joe Dante about

Monkeys in the mail His show has a strange recurring simian Also another connection to Chuck On a podcast guest He's in Norman Lears All That Glitters Which was a soap

Kind of a prime time soap Oh okay A spoof And very good on the projectionist Which is a movie we've talked about Which our listeners need to see With Rodney Dangerfield With a young Rodney Dangerfield

we want to recommend that and The Heart is a lonely hunter with Alan Arkin where he played the deaf mutant he really showed acting range he was a good actor yeah he was a good serious actor he did a lot of stuff

I remember from his show like when I was a kid watching him and he would he would come out they'd play the little off a nanny song and he'd dance and he put the little white out his eyes yes

and he played the Dick Tracy song like Dick Tracy see he had a bulldog jaw Dick Tracy he is the arm of the law Dick Tracy better do what he say crime doesn't never pay

This is a lot he remembers This reminds me of here comes the Fox Gilbert After the Fox Did you grow up with Chuck McCain You grew up in New York But you grew up in the No Michigan

Michigan so you don't know Chuck You don't know Chuck soupy sales But I know Yeah Well I think Chuck became national at some point, didn't he? I don't know. Going back and listening to the episode we did was funny because you busted his balls for the entire episode.

You kept saying, I don't want to talk to you. I was, at one point about nine minutes in, he says, am I talking too much? And you wouldn't let the guy, you wouldn't cut the guy a break. You just roasted him. But he told us some great stuff. You asked him the first time he got on stage and it was fifth grade. He got up and did an impression of Arthur Godfrey. Famous anti-samey.

Right, because the kids love, you know, the fifth graders love Arthur Godfrey. How was you? How were you? There you go. I believe you pointed that out to him. I hate those Jews. He told us that great story about Chaplin and Stan Laurel coming to America

and leaving their shoes outside in the hallway. At night, you remember this story? Yes. Because they used to do it in the U.K., they would shine your shoes. They would collect the hotel. He asked shoes and returned them, shined up in the morning. And they assumed they checked into some fleabag hotel in New York, Chaplin and Stan Laurel.

And they put their shoes out and their shoes were gone. And Stan Laurel had to walk around Manhattan in slippers. And he had these curled up toes on the slippers that were like, like elf shoes. And he was humiliated. That's a funny story. He knew Keaton well. He knew Stan Laurel well. He befriended those guys.

While we were talking to him on the episode, he said, He says at one point, I'm looking at Buster Keaton's chair. I have it in my office. I have the chair that Buster used to come and sit in. And just great stuff. He was very touched, I think, to be talking to us. And he's in the aristocrats. Oh, that's right.

Yes, yes, he's in the aristocrats. At the end, it got sentimental because we were saying you influenced entire generations. And Billy Crystal, who's a big fan, had told him that too. And he said, I never knew it, guys. I never knew it. I really never understood the depth of my impact, which was so sweet. And I got to tell you, oh, he's still alive. Okay.

But Will Jordan, former podcast guest, and great, great mimic. Love Will. He hasn't been feeling well. Yes. And Darren and I went to visit him in like this. Jackie went too. And Will Jordan, he was lying there in the bed and his voice is very weak. And we said something to him and he said to me, like I said something like, well, thanks for letting me come over and visit you.

And he goes, and this was something that made me both very happy and very sad at the same level. he said very weakly he goes he goes no um you know gilbert no one has ever treated me with me with as much dignity as you have how about that and it filled me with warmth about that i made him feel that good but also terrible at the same time and clearly he doesn't know you very well I talked to Jackie about Jackie went to see Will and they moved him out of that facility He's doing a little bit better

Oh good He says he has some friends taking care of him now So Oh, that's good But if our listeners who hear this Want to want to get a note to Will Or want to post anything on the listener's society Or on my page or on Facebook

On the podcast page We'll get it to Will. One of our great guests Yeah Yeah. What's great is you get Chuck McCann saying the F word by the end of the episode. You're pushing and pushing. And finally, Chuck says, you know, guys, I was really grateful to do this, but you kind of fucked up my Sunday. Well, did he also say that... You know, it was Tuesday.

Nobody has treated me with such respect. He did not. He did not. But I'm sorry we didn't get to say goodbye to Chuck or have him back a second time. I know. Because there was more to cover. But we get overwhelmed and there's so many people to talk to with this show. Marion Ross came on and said fuck

Yeah you seem to bring that out in people That must be that dignity thing That's all anybody can talk about With the Marion Ross episode Was that she said He got her to say fuck Because it's Mrs. C I think twice

Yeah Yeah you got four or five out of Chuck McCann My childhood is Forever sullied Anyway the great Chuck McCann A big loss And another one of our podcast guest that, you know, going back to what we said at the beginning of the show and

keeping this history alive just to get to talk to those guys. I lose sight of it. You know, 200 episodes and you get buried in them after a while. It's so much work. And I went back and I listened to Chuck and I thought, man, this is, this is sweet. This is a real, we really made them happy. Yes. You know, and for us to be able to do that for people that we grew up on, you know, who entertained us, it's a little, it's a little chance to give back. And it's kind of like that, I always think of that, that line from a death of a salesman. Like, attention must be paid. Attention must be paid.

So I'm quoting Arthur Miller. This show, this show is heady. The literary depths we reach here are incredible. From the convalingish chimps to Arthur Miller. That's rage. And another Arthur Miller quote, hey, I just fucked Maryland, my. The better known quote. That's on wiki quote.

The girl from some like it hot suck my ditch. See, he has a moment. It's tender. It's real. It's sweet. It's gone. It's gone. It's gone.

You want to take us out there? Mr. Dignity? That's the name of your next CD. We avoided slandering Chuck McCann. We avoided slandering Chuck McHan. We didn't do badly. We're not done yet, so. We let Chuck off the hook.

Have you at last, sir, no dignity? Oh, he's doing Joseph Welch. The show has a historical component. There's everything on this podcast. Yeah, what more could you want? What more could you ask? With the price of Stitcher. This has been, and I should mention,

It was recorded at Nuttmeg with our engineer Frank Ferd Rosa. Who's celebrating a birthday? Happy birthday to engineer Frank. This has been a very sentimental and dignified episode of Gilbert and Frank's amazing colossal sessions. This Sunday afternoon at one right here on the radio station you grew up with. Music Radio 138. Oh, fuck. What the hell's going on here?

Jesus, well, isn't it the last hour? We got another hour to do? Geez, I thought we're almost finished. Good, golly, Miss Molly. What is this fucking ponderous, man? Ponderous, man. Ponderous, fucking ponderous. Hi, this is Casey Kaysam.

American Top 40 has moved to a new time. I hope you'll join me this Saturday morning and every Saturday morning at two. Two. Now, we're up to our long-distance dedication. There it is. And this one is about kids and pets, and a situation that we can all understand, whether we have kids or pets or neither. It's from a man in Cincinnati, Ohio, and here's what he writes.

Dear Casey, this may seem to be a strange dedication request, but I'm quite sincere, and it'll need a lot if you play it. Recently, there was a death in our family. He was a little dog named Snuggles, but he was most certainly a part of... Let's come to start again. I'm coming out of the record. Play the record, okay? please see when you come out of those

up-tempo goddamn numbers man it's impossible to make those transitions and then you got to go into somebody dying you know they do this to me all the time I don't know what the hell they do it for but god damn it if we can't come out of a slow record I don't understand it is down on the phone okay I want a goddamn concerted effort to come out of a record

that isn't a fucking up-tempo record every time I do a goddamn death dedication Now, make it, and I also want to know what happened to the pictures I was supposed to see this week. It's a last goddamn time. I want somebody use his fucking brain to not come out of a goddamn record that's uptempo, and I got to talk about a fucking dog dying. At Fandual Casino, you get even more ways to play.

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