Gilbert Gottfried's Amazing Colossal Podcast - GGACP Classic: The Tingler and All That Jazz

Episode Date: September 11, 2025

In connection with this week's "Fun for All Ages" William Castle tribute, GGACP revisits this 2015 conversation about Castle's 1959 horror "classic" (and longtime Gilbert favorite) "The Tingler." Also... in this episode: the sex lives of Batman villains! Vincent Price gives it his all! Roy Scheider replaces Richard Dreyfuss! And the return of Herve’ Villechaize! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:05 Trivia and dirty jokes, an evening with the boys. Once is never good enough for something so fantastic. So here's another Gilbert and Franks, here's another Gilbert and Franks, here's another Gilbert and Franks, here's another Gilbert and Franks, here's another Gilbert and Franks. Collossal classic. Hi, this is Gilbert Gottfried. Yeah, I'm vaguely. I need it written down on a piece of paper. Put it on a card for you.
Starting point is 00:01:57 And I think I might get the title right after having done like a thousand of these. Only 20 or so. Yes. So it's Gilbert and Frank's amazing colossal obsessions. You've got about a 20 episode curve. Yes. I want to put out, too, that we asked a couple weeks ago for people to submit theme songs for this show. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:02:20 They're actually coming in. That's right. We have two now to choose from. So we're going to, they're not going to be on this episode, but soon. Yeah. Very soon. That's, that's scary. That people actually have as much time on their hands as we do?
Starting point is 00:02:34 Imagine being a respected composer that you're... Say they were respected composers. I said they were fans. Why don't you start us off this week? Greg, to all your friends. Well, I compose the music. Not really the podcast so much, but those other things afterwards, yeah. That's me.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Try to get laid with that one. It's sort of like saying you compose the incidental music on Gilligan's Island, not the theme song, but the little music they play when... Or the incidental music in The Monsters, which I remember was... Oh, that's great. That's great. Oh, my God. And there was the music on the Andy Griffith show, whenever Don Knotts, was feeling brave when he was feeling like a tough share. When they would play that sort of drag-nettie theme?
Starting point is 00:03:40 Yes, yes. That kind of thing. Okay. That's it. That's brilliant. That's brilliant. That's when Don Nott's would start strutting. And the one on Gilligan's eye, let me see if I can get this.
Starting point is 00:04:01 It was... When Gilligan was riding a bike that washed the clothes, the professor had set up, or he was being chased by a giant spider through a cave. People now think we've lost our minds. You know what's interesting about... Last thing about incidental music, if you watch the old Batman series, each villain has their own the main villains have their own little mini
Starting point is 00:04:27 musical stings Oh, that's right So the Joker has his little His little, I'm trying to remember what it was now, I think it's done da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da Do you remember that? Oh yes!
Starting point is 00:04:37 And the Riddler has one too and boy this is really drilling deep. Now with the exception of Frank Gorshian were all of the villains on Batman gay? You know, I think almost well let's see Michael Rennie I believe David Wayne, the Mad Hatter, Victor Bono, certainly.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Yes. Caesar Romero. We've discussed many times. Van Johnson, the jury's out. I have a friend who says Van Johnson. Yeah, definitely. How about Walter Slazac? Probably not because he had an acting daughter, Erica Slazac.
Starting point is 00:05:19 But you never know. Well, Cliff Robertson was straight. And Gorshin, you said, was straight. And I think as far as we know, Oh, Burgess Meredith. Burgess Meredith was married to Paulette Goddard. Yes. So there's a straight actor.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Yes. Who else? Oh, well, let's see. Vincent Price. No, I'm going on the other direction now. Yeah, that's also one of those. Well, he was married. Yeah, married, but you always wondered.
Starting point is 00:05:47 There's those people you always wondered. You never heard anything on. Kind of like Dom. Deloese always struck me. Also married with kids. Yeah. And you never heard any stories.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Right. What about Roger C. Carmel? He was a Batman villain. Oh, which one was he? He was Colonel Gum in the Green Hornet episode. Oh, geez. I know way too much. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Yeah. Anyway, I think we've made our point. Okay. Mori Sevens. Oh, my. Maybe not gay, just English. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He could be one of those.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Boy, we really went down a rabbit hole. You want to tell us what film you picked this week? I'm going to pick a film I've discussed many times on the show, and it's certainly not a quality film by any stretch of the imagines. So this isn't even with reservations. It's not intelligently written, and don't expect to be awed by the special effects. Oh, I can imagine. Ladies and gentlemen from William Castle.
Starting point is 00:06:56 I know where you're going. Ladies and gentlemen, Vincent Price in The Tingler. Yeah, I would say don't be odd by the special effects. Yes, it's the tingler itself looks like it's a rubber centipede. Pretty much. And there are some scenes you could basically see the strings. Pulling it along the water. Wasn't that part of its charm, though?
Starting point is 00:07:22 Yes. Those William Castle films were just fun. House on Haunted Hill and there was... There was so many of them. But it's based on scientific evidence. The tingler, right. Yes. Because it's been proven that if you're scared, when you're scared,
Starting point is 00:07:40 you have a tingler living in your body, folks. Everyone, that's been described in the film. This is in the Mayo Clinic. You can look this up. Yes. Yes. I had my spine x-rayed. Sure enough, there was a tingler on it. Well, that's the premise.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Yes. You should explain, you should briefly explain the premise. Yes. So when you get scared, if you don't scream, see, the tingler starts squeezing your spine. Correct. When you get scared. And if you got to scream, so the tingler will let go of your spine. Pretty much.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Well, and the gimmick was they rigged the movie theater seats to give people a shock. Yes, they had buzzers. And so there's one part of the movie. This is my favorite part of the movie. We've talked about this with David Tell, but worth repeating. Where the tingler gets loose in a movie theater. And so it's a double thing where both movie and reality collide. That's right.
Starting point is 00:08:46 And so the screen goes dark. And Vincent Price starts screaming out to both the movie audience and, of course, us, the audience. Scream, scream for your lives. The tingler is loose in the theater. Scream, scream, scream for your lives. And then everyone has to start screaming. And my favorite part afterwards is after a monster is loose. in the theater, and he's telling
Starting point is 00:09:21 people to scream, or the monster will kill you, he goes, our movie will resume now. Everybody returned to their seats. Yeah, yeah. So in the 50s, audiences are sitting, is it early 60s?
Starting point is 00:09:41 Or late 50s? Audiences somewhere in America are sitting in a movie theater, watching a scene of people sitting in a movie theater. Yes. And they're watching a blank screen. And they're watching a blank screen.
Starting point is 00:09:55 When the tingler is on the loose. You know, it was one of those movies where Price just did his best. Yes. And you could just see the... It is, it is really... I watched it because TCM had a William Castle salute over Halloween and I happen to be sick. And I watched House on Haunted Hill. I think Mr. Sardonicus, there was another one I can't think of.
Starting point is 00:10:19 right away and my god I have never seen the tingler and I watch it this is terrible but it's still fun to watch but it's fun it actually a lot and there's a guy oh there's a woman who's a mute
Starting point is 00:10:35 that's right so she can't scream I forgot about her I forgot about her and there's a whole other plot with Price trying to kill his wife Oh, yes. Because she's cheating on it, my family.
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Starting point is 00:12:56 I wish I could spend all day with you instead. Uh, Dave, you're off mute. Hey, happens to the best of us. Enjoy some goldfish cheddar crackers. Goldfish have short memories. Be like goldfish. I'm going to go pretty far field here and talk about a movie that I talked about on a friend's podcast.
Starting point is 00:13:18 My friend's Tim Merrill and Maurice Bershtinsky, who are big fans of this show. You just made up those. I made them up. I was on their podcast, which is called See Here. It's a great podcast. Check it out. And we talked about a movie called All That Jazz, which you and I were discussing not too long ago. Yeah, because what I heard about this film, I guess you're familiar with this, too. It's like the original actor.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Right. It was not Roy Scheider. It was his co-star in Jaws Richard Dreyfus. Correct. They want. Who was coming off the goodbye girl. He had an Oscar. And Richard Dreyfus was going to play the Bob Fawcy.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Yeah, Joe Gideon. Right. And he couldn't get along with Fawsey on this. He disagreed. So he used to like talk to his pal, Roy Scheider. Right. Over dinner. over dinner and say, oh, I'm not getting along.
Starting point is 00:14:20 I just, we can't come to an agreement on this. I'm miserable, and Roy Scheider would show old sympathy, and then Roy Scheider gets offered the part, and he takes it. You should have sucked up to Billy Barty when you were up for that same part. It was very interesting. I think it was a combination of Fossi and Dreyfus not clicking, and Dreyfus realizing that he maybe could not carry a musical. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:49 There's a great book about Fosse. The author's name is jumping out of my head right now. It came out maybe a year or two ago, and there's a line attributed to Dreyfus where he says he's panicking at the thought of his, quote, Fat Jewie S, dancing around on a screen. I think it was a combination of a lack of chemistry between the two men and his realization that he wouldn't look good in tight. That he wouldn't look good.
Starting point is 00:15:16 He wasn't going to sell this at all. And, yeah, it is interesting how Shider stepped in. When they were casting Fantasy Island, I would confide to my friend Irvay Villages. Oh, really? And he would pretend to be sympathetic and go, Oh, give up. I feel for you. Oh, Gilbert.
Starting point is 00:15:38 I have nothing but sympathy for you. And stole the damn part right out from under you. That's sawed off, little. Yeah, and then he called me when he got, and he goes, Oh, look, you give it. I have success with serious now. Ha, ha, ha. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:16:02 I can't get enough of that one. So you were glad when he checked himself out. Yeah, yeah, he had it coming. This is the all tangent show, by the way. Well, a few words about all that jazz. See it or listen to the episode of See Here, where I talk about the film. If you can find it, you can find it online. It's a wonderful podcast.
Starting point is 00:16:22 It's a brilliant self-indulgent, masterfully directed film. I mean, it's one of those films that people love or hate because it's very, again, the word is self-indulgent. And, you know, I've just started to realize something. His name is Gideon. Yeah, Gideon. Yeah, so is that like, you know, blow Gideon. You know what? I think it was named after a play that Patty Chayesky had written because Fossi was friends with Patty Chayesky.
Starting point is 00:16:49 I think that was the origin of the name Gideon. You could find some trivia on this film or go to IMDB. Can you look it up and just tell me? We don't have the time right now. It's a warts and all biography. I mean, it's a very dark look at himself, a brutally honest at his philandering, at, you know, his, his, is how difficult he was to work with, his, his substance abuse. But it's a great film.
Starting point is 00:17:16 It's a versatile, it's a biopic, it's a drama, it's a black comedy, it's a musical. A fun cast, Cliff Gorman, turns up playing the Lenny Bruce part that he played. That's right, because Cliff Gorman and the play Lenny, and they say he was great as Lenny. But then when the studio, when it... They wanted a star. Correct. When it became a feature film, they wanted Dustin Hoffman, but he brings Cliff Gorman back to basically play the character, which in the film is called, in all that jazz, that movie within a movie is called The Stand Up or the comic. And then Cliff Gorman then was also successful in the play, and I guess he was in the movie, a boys in the band. Oh, boys in the band, sure.
Starting point is 00:18:00 And then he was desperate. He spent the rest of his life trying to prove to everyone that he wasn't. Because he was so convincing. Yeah. And I remember him being on in a magazine article in Look or Life where he's like got a big cigar in his mouth, like trying to look like a toughgown. Like Bob Guccione or something? Yes, yeah, with a cigar. And you're thinking, hmm, that cigar looks like a penis. That's funny.
Starting point is 00:18:29 He was a good actor. He died fairly young. John Lithgow turns up in the movie. Jessica Lang is the Angel of Death. And is Anne Rankin? Anne Reinking, playing basically Anne Reinking, playing Fossie's girlfriend, but she was an ex-girlfriend at the time. And Ben Vareen is wonderful in the film. Okay, so that's all that jazz.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Yeah, and the tingler. And the tingler. And in one episode, we managed to talk about Cliff Gorman, Hervey Villashezschez, and incidental music from the Andy Griffiths show. We cover everything here. So this was Gilbert and Frank's amazing colossal. podcast see the tingler and all that jazz they're very similar very similar indistinguishable indistinguishable

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