Gilbert Gottfried's Amazing Colossal Podcast - GGACP Classic: Time Travel Movies with Richard Kind

Episode Date: November 21, 2024

GGACP celebrates the birthday (b. November 22) of our friend, fan and frequent guest, the irrepressible RIchard Kind, by revisiting this enjoyable mini-show from 2017. In this episode: Whit Bissell! ...The beauty of Yvette Mimieux! The genius of Nicholas Meyer! Richard praises “It’s a Wonderful Life”! And “the Professor” meets John Wilkes Booth! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:07 Trivia and dirty jokes, an evening with the boys. Once is never good enough for something so fantastic. So here's another Gilbert and Price. Here's another Gilbert and Price. Here's another Gilbert and Price. Colossal Classic Here we go, boys. Gilbert and Price! Colossal Obsessions! Hi, this is Gilbert Gottfried and I'm here with my co-host Frank Santopadre and this is Gilbert and Frank's amazing colossal obsessions. And we're once again recording at Nutmeg with our engineer
Starting point is 00:02:05 Frank Ferdorosa and our return guest is actor Richard Kind. You missed my credits last time. I'm ready. Now Richard is a super... Everybody's going, ugh, of here. What the hell? I'm your Tony Randall. That's fine. We needed one. It's like, oh, we got nothing. And I happen to be here recording
Starting point is 00:02:34 and they go, do a podcast with us. All right. I heard that. What a Monta organization this place is. We'd be thrilled if you'd be our Tony Randall. Tony Randall would show up every night at David Letterman show with carrying his suit neatly pressed. Justin Case? And yeah they go Tony drop in. Oh God that's hilarious. Jewish fellow Lenny Rosenberg. Oh that's right. Yeah yeah yeah I believe from Pittsburgh. Yeah. And he had a child, like at age 70, I don't know what.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Some crazy thing. And I used to say, you know, you should not have a child at that age because when you get that old, you can't throw a football or a softball with your son. And then I said, although I can never imagine Tony Randall ever throwing a softball with his kid, even at the height of his athletic prowess. One time they had him on to read the top 10 reasons why it's good to have a kid when you're 75. Oh, that's right. That's right. And I remember one of them was, who cares if the kid cries? I can't hear a damn thing.
Starting point is 00:03:57 I gotta tell you something. I have a documentary coming out about me called Gilbert that this filmmaker, Neil Berkeley made. You'll love it, Rich. I can't wait. And you were nice enough to take part in a documentary. I was very nice to do that. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Now, did I say, you know one of the questions, and I don't know whether it's in the movie, is it in the movie? I don't know. You have to tell me what it is. I think they said, you know, Gilbert has been called the comedian's comedian. They used to call him that in the day. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Did they use that, my answer, in the thing? Which was? Well, I said he's the opposite of the comedian's comedian. It doesn't deny how great a comedian he is, but he's doing stuff that he did 20 years ago. A comedian's comedian works and works and tries it out. It's fascinating. I go, he's the furthest he is. Look at us, there we go. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Is this what I'm getting paid? Okay, I'll see you. Same Joyce DeWitt jokes that I saw him doing in 1976. And it doesn't deny actually how brilliant you were and are now. And I know that you still write stuff and you still do new stuff. But do you tour? Do you test it out? Is this going to work? Maybe I need a word here,
Starting point is 00:05:27 maybe I got... I don't think that you do that for the life of you. That I used to. I used to. I used to like I'd have bits that worked and people would say, why don't you do those bits anymore? And I said, because they work. Oh, that's good. Oh, so then you were the comedian's comedian. I know you now as the laziest son of a bit. Yeah, it's like, hey, how many of you in the audience watch Renanza? We keep saying that on the show. I'll reminisce and say, oh, you used to do this Norman Phil bit. Still do it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Still in there. Oh, gosh. It's so funny. Oh, that's hilarious. Yep. Yep. Yep. Anyway, so I gave what I considered was a negative answer, and the minute I was finished,
Starting point is 00:06:17 I went, oh, gosh, this is a documentary honoring Gilbert, and I just slammed him. But it's not. It had nothing to do with how great you are. It's just, uh... I don't know if that's in there, but he should have left it in. Sure, yes. That's because it's accurate.
Starting point is 00:06:31 And I was much more eloquent in answering. Yes. Here, here, it's like, you know, I'm sort of walking on egg shells because you're here in the room. And you said you were gonna come on. The reason for coming on the show today is to tell us who the chicken hawk was
Starting point is 00:06:49 Mentioned the last time you were on the show the chicken. Yeah, that was a famous Hollywood chicken I'll tell you Richard. It's generated a lot of mail. I can't do it I'll keep the mystery will the mystery will go on and who told me he was the head of the SWAT team is gone as well. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah. Yeah. He was a great guy.
Starting point is 00:07:12 I was friends with the head. I mean, the founder, the first chief of the first SWAT team in the world. It was in Los Angeles. Best friends with Daryl Gates. This guy named Jeff Rogers, great guy, and he was a bodybuilder and he was a tough guy, single all his life, joined the country club that he played at because he didn't like playing,
Starting point is 00:07:37 terrible, with Asians at the public courses. No, but he didn't like the slow play. It's not, he wanted that, Then he felt that the Asians were slow and he could never talk to them. He wanted to talk to people. And they would never talk. He's gonna edit it out. Oh God. He loves this stuff. But he was a great guy. And his father was a big band leader and a singer and Jeff was a huge opera buff. Loved the Dodgers, loved old cars, a policeman, a real guy's guy, loved opera. How about that? And he would watch Lonesome Dove once a year and read Lonesome Dove once a year. That's massive, like Larry Larkin's Mercury.
Starting point is 00:08:19 We had on the show James Caron. I love James Caron. Yeah, the best. I know him, I know him. The best guy. He's great. He's the one who told us that Moe of the Three Stooges was a big Shakespearean fan.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Oh, I remember hearing that, yes. Yeah, he would love watching Shakespearean production. That kills me. That is so incongruous. Yeah. I love that too. How about Mel Brooks? Mel Brooks is really the well-read guy.
Starting point is 00:08:50 When you look at the title, at one of the character's names in the producers, is Leo Bloom. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. I'm Ulysses. He really, he was a reader, a real, real, real smart reader. And it's actually one thing that he doesn't wear on his sleeve is how smart he is and learned it.
Starting point is 00:09:08 I mean, he produced Elephant Man and that play with Anthony Hopkins and Anne Bancroft. Oh, was that 84 Charing Crossroads? Yes, that's it. Very good. I mean, a real learned guy, but he does not wear that on his sleeve. Yeah, two good films, that one and The Elephant Man.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Yeah, well, yeah, both very good. Yeah. Both very good. So you want to shame us for not being able to land Mel Brooks, which you were doing outside? Yes, it's terrible. Put it on him. He's been told he has the phone number.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Can I say it? Sure. Well, I don't want to rush it. Mel says that he knows Gilbert, loves Gilbert. Well, this comes from Norman Steinberg, Mel's friend and the writer of Blazing Saddle. All he has to do is Gilbert has to call. Okay, can you say that again? Mel Brooks knows Gilbert loves Gilbert.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Knows Gilbert loves, knows of you maybe? He's a fan, we were told. He's a fan and loves you and he says, all you have to do is call me. I want Gilbert to call and ask and I, honest God you know for the sake of everybody who's listening Yeah, Carl's been on and Mel's probably asking every night at dinner. What am I chopped liver? Yeah You you had Norman, but he doesn't call me It's like this, you know the girl who's just you know opens her legs and you go you go in No judge goes all the wrong. You remember that line all the wrong signals. Maybe I did from from playing again Sam
Starting point is 00:10:24 Yes, wow. Yeah. Wow many years with that line. Wow the wrong signals? Maybe from playing again, Sam? Yes, wow, I haven't seen that in many years. Remember that line? Wow, speaking of Tony Roberts. Okay. Oh, and thank you for Tony Roberts again. By the way, Richard helped us book Tony, and he turned out to be one of our better guests.
Starting point is 00:10:36 And I told you, he gave me the best advice ever, because I took over a role that he was doing on Broadway, and he gave me the instructions for what the secret of it is and I actually use it for all acting. He said, love your wife. The more that you love that character, because I played her husband, the more the audience will love her and will love you.
Starting point is 00:11:00 How about that? And I thought that was great. And she's sort of a heinous type of character, like a very obnoxious Upper West Side woman. It's a horrible, horrible character. But I loved her. And I thought that was the most brilliant interaction. You know what's funny?
Starting point is 00:11:16 It's like when I think of like the old show Roseanne, and I think of how valuable John Good... Absolutely. Absolutely, that's absolutely true. Yes. Yes. Aside from being a fine actor, you would watch him and go,
Starting point is 00:11:36 wow, he loves this one. He loves her. He's the glue of that show. Yeah. I agree with you. I've never thought of that, but yes. But then I have thought, I always said Helen Hunt made Paul Reiser handsome if Helen Hunt loves this guy That's interesting. Oh, you know, here's a beautiful woman. He loves uh, as a matter of fact there it makes you absolutely gorgeous You guys want to talk a little bit about time travel, time travel movies, time travel television.
Starting point is 00:12:07 And I only say because I happen to know Richard's a fan of the time tunnel. But also we have a producer of the month episode here. One of our listeners, Christopher Kenny said, why don't you guys do a time travel movie? You've talked about them on the show, a time travel episode. You've talked about them on the show. You've talked about them on the show, a time travel episode. You've talked about them on the show. You've talked about lots of Twilight zones. Yeah. And we have Richard here who's also a TV and movie buff.
Starting point is 00:12:30 I thought we'd kick that around for a few minutes. Like the first one, just to get it out of the way, and it is a great fun movie. And I think that, is that Rod Taylor? You know, I was gonna ask you, I've never seen the original Time to Change. You haven't? Shame on me.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Oh, it's quite good. I've never seen it. Time Machine. Yeah, you haven't? Shame on me. Oh, it's quite cool. I've never seen it. Oh, it's good. And that Mimiu was beautiful. Gorgeous. Oh my god. And...
Starting point is 00:12:52 An early fantasy. Really? That Mimiu. Because I saw the Time Machine at Camp Sunopy. Okay. That's the first time I saw it on the big sheet that acted as a screen, and that's where I first saw it. And of course, once again, Mental block, the guy from Mr. Ed.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Oh, Alan Young. Alan Young. Right. Who then later became Scrooge McDuck. Correct. Very good. And he's in there and he's doing a Scottish accent. Right. I know. But terrific movie.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Yeah. Just loads of fun. It is. It is. And to see it today and know that back then it was so groundbreaking and George Pal and all that. And it was it's dreadful. I mean, the special effects are dreadful. It's so much fun when you're watching him and you see in fast motion buildings getting built and then torn down and then built up again.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Yes, almost like it was a flip book or something. Yeah, that's right. But that brings me to my favorite, a favorite, a favorite. Because although I love time travel, it's really tough to do and really make it difficult. Yeah, you said that on the phone when we were talking. You don't think most time travel films are successful because it's hard to.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Because they're always asking questions and how can you go back and how was today, it was and how can you go back. But you have to buy in, you really have to buy. Of course you do and I buy into everything. But the great one and answers all those questions is a time after time, not time after time. The one with Malcolm McDowell.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Malcolm McDowell. Malcolm McDowell. Oh, we love that one. It's the best. Mary Steenberg. We love that one. We've talked about it on this show. It's the best of the time travels. Yeah, Nicholas Meyer.
Starting point is 00:14:33 And it answers all the questions. Yeah. Even with H.G. Wells, because she goes back into time and becomes the inspiration for his work. It's a perfect movie. It's perfect. Yeah. And that was, is that Michael Crichton?
Starting point is 00:14:48 Nicholas Meyer, who was the- Nicholas Meyer, you're correct. 7% solution. They brought up something interesting in that website, Cracked, where they said, one thing they ignore in these time travel movies is if you go in your time machine, how do you know you're going to land in a big open space? Maybe they put a building up over there
Starting point is 00:15:15 and you crash right into this building. And you could be in between bricks. Yes! Yes, you could be. Absolutely. Never happened on the time tunnel in all those episodes. They always landed on a street. Okay, who was the head of the time tunnel travel thing? Oh, it was.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Come on, you got the name. Oh, I asked this and you got it wrong and you should know it now. No, you asked me, you asked. I did. What was Lee Merriweather was on there. And you know my Lee Merriweathers. You asked me, no, the one I got wrong was you asked me.
Starting point is 00:15:44 It's who it is. This is it,. You asked me, no, the one I got wrong was you asked me. It's who it is. This is it, I think. Yeah, well, the guy. He was also Ian. Whit Bissell. Whit Bissell. Oh my God, yes. He was still ahead.
Starting point is 00:15:54 And James Darin. James Darin. But who was the other guy? Colbert, Robert Colbert. You know, not only did you gave me three choices. L-B-E-R-T. He's still around. So is James around. I ran into James Darin. He sows James Darin.
Starting point is 00:16:06 We hung out with James Darin at Chiller. Yes. Yes, and he said he'd do the show. Yes. So we have to follow up with James Darin. Yeah. And Lee Merriweather. She would, she did the show.
Starting point is 00:16:17 We had her. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But she was on Time Tunnel. Right, along with Julie Newmar. Right, right, right, right. One is sane and one is... I tell you what, speaking of Julie Newmar, I was doing time travel research
Starting point is 00:16:29 and she turned up in a Twilight Zone time travel episode. Really? With Albert Salmi, called Of Late, I Think of Cliffordville. Wait, is this the one where he wants to like, get rich all over again? Yes, and she played the devil. She played a female version of... Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Yeah. ...Mephistopheles. Oh, that's what I remember. Ms. Devlin. I remember her, yes. Here's what's wrong with that episode. Okay. And this is always what cracks me up about anything making a deal with the devil?
Starting point is 00:17:06 Exactly because when you make a deal with the devil He does grant your wish but with an evil twist on it, you know So it'll be like well, it's not an evil twist the evil things happen Yeah, once you get it or they'll do something like you'll go, I want to be famous. And then you'll be famous because you'll die in a plane crash. Or you're a killer about to go to the electric chair. Yes, yes. There's those.
Starting point is 00:17:34 But what they do in a lot of those is the wish, the way they phrase the wish is so fucking obvious and stupid. Yes. Where they'll go, I wanna be rich. Axe through the head rich. You know, and it's like... Is that an expression? Axe through the head rich?
Starting point is 00:18:00 Yeah, axe. I want every beautiful girl in the world. I speak through my eye, beautiful girl. We will return to Gilbert Gottfried's amazing colossal podcast after this. It's hockey season and you can get anything you need delivered with Uber Eats. Well, almost, almost anything. So no, you can't anything you need delivered with Uber Eats. Well, almost, almost anything. So no, you can't get a nice rank on Uber Eats. But iced tea, ice cream, or just plain old ice?
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Starting point is 00:20:36 And you go, well, wait a minute. You didn't look good. Albert saw me never look good. Yeah, he never did. Couldn't have at 20. And you're going, he says that a few times. I have to look like I did back then. And I think, well, no, you'd want to be 20 again.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Sure. Yeah, that's not you want to look like it, so you'd feel like you're 90 but look like you're 20. So she got him again on the semantics. Oh yes, yes, yes. She picked him up. And I heard he, Salmi wound up killing himself. I believe he did.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Yeah. He did. I believe he did. Yeah, he commits suicide. Wow, he was a great actor. He sure was. I think he was like an actor studio guy or something like that. He could have been.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Yeah. He sure was. I think he was like an actor studio guy or something like that. He could have been. Yeah, he could have been. Since we're talking about Twilight Zone time travel ones, here's one, Once Upon a Time with Buster Keaton. Oh yes, and who was that other actor? Well Jesse White's in it and the guy you're thinking of is Stanley Adams. That's a big guy with a big voice like that. Yes. I don't know. Jesse White, I'm sorry. Yeah, Jesse White.
Starting point is 00:21:49 And what was so funny. He puts on a helmet to travel through time. What was so funny about that is the beginning of it, they make like a silent movie. Yep. The beginning of that Twilight Zone. And then when it goes into modern times, then you hear them talk.
Starting point is 00:22:06 How many Twilight Zones did Buster Keaton do? Pfft. I think just that. I think just the one. Just the one? Yeah. I did find that there were 12 different time travel stories in the original Twilight Zone.
Starting point is 00:22:17 You know this one? Here's another one with Albert Salmi. Wow. Russell Johnson. I know, okay. Oh, is this the one with the guy who warns about Lincoln's assassination? No, I was saving that one.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Oh, I love that one. That one's called Back There. Yeah. Yeah, that's the one where he's the college professor. Yes. Right. And he goes back and the guy drugs him. Yeah. At the bar, the one guy that he's telling it to,
Starting point is 00:22:39 that he's telling that this is, I come from the future and he's at, and then he finds out that the guy that drugged him he gets that he looks at the handkerchief that the guy gave him and it says JWB embroidered on the handkerchief yeah Serling himself wrote that one oh wow yeah that's a good one but how many of them are based on true story how many are based on some other source material? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:07 That's a good question. An original story. There's one called Execution with Albert Salmi and Russell Johnson. And this is where the guy, the cowboy in 1855, he's about to be hanged. He's on the gallows. Do you know about this one?
Starting point is 00:23:19 Oh yeah. And the scientist brings him into the future. Russell Johnson brings him into the future. I don brings him into the future and he kills the scientist. And then a thief breaks in and kills the, the killer. And that guy stumbles into the time machine and he winds up back in the noose. Do you remember this one? No, not at all. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:42 And that's, here's one you will remember Gil. It's walking distance with Gig Young. That one I Okay. That's... Here's one you will remember, Gil. It's Walking Distance with Gig Young. That one I love. That was... That's where he goes back and meets himself as a child. Yeah. All the best, all the best, the best. Yeah, that one...
Starting point is 00:23:54 Talk about somebody who killed himself. Another guy. Yeah, Gig Young. Yeah, he goes back in time and he sees himself as a little kid and a great actor there, Frank Overton. Very good. Great. Plays his father. Young Ronnie Howard shows up in that one, too.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Oh, that's right. Yeah. And Frank Overton, he had a great speaking voice. Frank Overton was great. He was a real 60s TV actor. And I remember him saying to him, This isn't your time, Martin. That's it. You have to go back you can share That's an episode. I already remembers with that child. Yeah, everybody when you talk Twilight Zone everybody brings that up That's a gig young was great in that. Yeah, he was he was that's it's a very was a he was great at powerful touching I love that one and he was almost the Frisco kid the the way to the wake. Oh, yes
Starting point is 00:24:49 I'm gonna say the Frisco kid or was the way go kid I know they shot they shot with him and right and he was vomiting and said we got to replace him and then Gene Wilder comes right in and I Would have been great in that Act you know what all you can do is go back and talk. I swear to God, because, but I don't know. I don't know whether or not something would be considered great if the original cast.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Like I always say, Beverly Hills Cop. Oh, Stallone. Stallone. I don't know whether it would be great. I think The Graduate would have been great with Groton, but I don't know whether it would be great. I think The Graduate would have been great with Groton, but I don't know whether or not Gig Young. What about Dick Tracy with Gilbert as Mumbles? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I lost Papillon too. I'm sorry to hear that. It was a tough break.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Because I loved McQueen. McQueen and I got along, but we read well together. Fuck Franklin J. Schaffner. I'd kill to see you in Papillon. Here's a couple of other films. Wait, hold on. Wait. But what I was going to say, and I didn't even think of it But you know what clued me and then you sort of referred to it a sort of again The great time travel that nobody would think is time travel a feature
Starting point is 00:26:17 Many times over Groundhog Day. No, but first a very well-known novel Christmas Carol, of course. Oh my god, you said Scrooge McDuck, and I'm going, okay. There you go. Oh my God, and then you said, goes back and sees himself as a kid. Right. And then you always see that,
Starting point is 00:26:34 and you always cry, and then they start dancing, and you always go, okay, skip this part, skip this part. But you know what I love about Christmas Carol, where I think Christmas Carol gets it right, where they fuck up so many times in other things, where they'll go like, for instance, they'll say, I'm going to show you what it was like
Starting point is 00:26:59 if you had become president. And then the next scene, it's like, oh, where am I now? And they go, why, you're the president. Right. And then the next scene, it's like, oh, where am I now? And they go, why, you're the president. I am? And it's like, no. If you're the president, you know you're the president. You ran for president.
Starting point is 00:27:20 You know all this. So the only way to do it is to be by being a ghost and Observing yourself. Yes, because it wouldn't make sense where like a beautiful girl shows up and goes Wait a minute. I married you Well, if you're married to her, yeah, you know who you're married to. Right. So that's why a Christmas carol. I'll tell you who else, because no, no, no, all those soldiers died.
Starting point is 00:27:53 No, they were killed when your brother wasn't there. Oh, it's a wonderful life. It's a wonderful life. Yes. Also another. Yeah. It does it very well. It really does.
Starting point is 00:28:03 But it's really short. It's really, it's a very terse. Yeah, but there is a time travel element. You don't think of it, you don't think of it off the top of your head as a time travel movie. Right, but it does. But it has that element. Yes, all those boys were died because you're... That whole thing owes so much to Dickens. The whole idea of the angel taking him back. It's Christmas, it's Christmas Eve for God's sake. And it also, where the drugist is an alcoholic. Yeah, Mr. Gower. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Oh no, Mr. Gower is my man. Yeah. Yes. Watch it every year. And Bert Nerney. And that is why they're named Bert Nerney. It almost makes you, it fills your heart to the point that you almost forget
Starting point is 00:28:43 that Ward Bond was hunting down commies and ruining their lives Yes Any hated the juice? Brings a tear to my eye bringing up the anti-semites now Yes, now also in that oh most importantly About in that, oh, most importantly, about It's a Wonderful Life, is that one of the characters in The Adventures of Ford Fairlane
Starting point is 00:29:15 was named Zuzu Peddles. Love it. That's really, really- That is arcane. That's fantastic. I love that. That's fantastic. Were you in that movie?
Starting point is 00:29:25 Yes. Okay, so you saw it and that's how you know. Dustin Hoffman wanted to be in the movie, but they liked my test a lot better. What's your favorite Scrooge movie? Is it the Alistair Sim? Oh, yeah. Because I saw the Finney one. Oh, my favorite still is Mr that good. The Fini musical's good.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Is, is, uh, Mr. Magoo. Me too, I remember that! And Mario Cantone didn't like it. And he's out of his mind. You were, fuck him! Fuck him! Fuck him! Fuck him!
Starting point is 00:29:55 And now I'm homophobic. La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la. La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la He walks through the world, makes such a lonely sound. Is it Bacchus? Did they have the original? Yes, Bacchus. Yes. And Musselberry pudding or whatever that. Oh, can we have a Christmas tree
Starting point is 00:30:35 with Brassilberry dressing? Ha ha! Mario's gonna love this. I'm gonna play this for him immediately. The Finney version's good, actually. The Finney version. And also the way George C.. The Phinney version's good, actually. And also the way George C. Scott. Then there was Henry Winkler, lightscrewed.
Starting point is 00:30:51 Yes. Well, I'll tell you the worst of the remakes. Marlo Thomas. Oh, that shouldn't have happened. Yeah. There's a room... I heard that Marlo Thomas, when she was starting work on this, she went up to... Capra.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Capra. She went to Capra and said, I'm going to be doing a remake of It's a Wonderful Life. Do you have any advice? And Capra's advice was don't. Oh God. Yeah, that's strong. With Orson Welles as Mr. Potter. Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Right. Now who was Clarence? Because it was Clarice. Yes it was. Oh boy, I've got to know. Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy. Oh this delights me. I am delighted. Oh boy, I've got to tell you. Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy. Oh, this delights me. I am delighted.
Starting point is 00:31:47 Oh Jesus, I really should know this. Yeah. Somebody like, somebody you wouldn't think of, like Maureen Stapleton. That's a good close cut. Older actress. Well, no, at the time she wasn't that old, but she's respected and great, a really good actress.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Give me a hint. Warren Beatty called her the best fuck in Hollywood, and there is no second. I've told you that on the show, right? No. What? Yes, you did. You did?
Starting point is 00:32:14 Oh, I did. Well, I wasn't paying attention. But it wasn't Estelle Parsons. No. No, that is correct. It was not. Nor was it Gene Hackman. Oh, I know who it is.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Yes, because you told us this. Cloris Leachman. Yeah, yeah. Gene Hack... I knew Gene Hackman fucked Cloris Leachman. I've never seen the Marlo Thomas version. Really? Yeah. Gene Hackman fucked Cloris Leachman?
Starting point is 00:32:35 Yeah. I think she talked about it in some interview. We gotta get Cloris Leachman on here. Yes! He fucked her. Oh, she'll be great. Any connection? No.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Okay. No. That's honest. No, I don't. Any connection? No. Okay. No. That's honest. No, I don't. I've met her. I've touched her ass. I'm not kidding. You and Ed Asner.
Starting point is 00:32:52 No, no, but she really worked out all the time, all the time, and had a great body, and she was beautiful, and she was a beauty queen, everything like that. But in her eighties, she worked out all the time and she would take your hand and put it on her butt and it was, it was rock hard. I'll bet. I heard someone had told me they were working on some movie or TV movie with Cloris Leachman and Tony Randall.
Starting point is 00:33:28 And Tony Randall walked in when Cloris Leachman was sitting there and he goes, I bit off her clitoris and she became Cloris. came Chloris. And... Hahahaha! Hahahaha! Hahahaha! Hahahaha! Hahahaha! Hahahaha! Hahahaha! Hahahaha! Hahahaha!
Starting point is 00:33:50 Hahahaha! Wow! Hahahaha! Hahahaha! Hahahaha! Oh, I was a regular co-porter. If I could only live up, if I could only live up to Tony Randall
Starting point is 00:33:59 and truly say something witty. I don't know if we can top that. That's fantastic. Well, we're at the 30 minute mark. Wow. I'll tell you, for a short episode, this wasn't so bad. I'll tell you, we could keep going, but that was fun. And we can definitely say this time we didn't scratch the surface.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Yes, we didn't. We didn't. But you know, there's a lot of time travel movies here on the list, and another time, we'll talk about them. All right. I mean, the whole Planet of the Apes series. Oh exactly. For one thing. Yes. Or Terminator. Yeah. Oh yes. Yes but Groundhog Day. You brought up Groundhog Day. Yeah. A very satisfying, one of the greats. I think it's a perfect film. I don't because I keep asking questions. Oh. He's in a car
Starting point is 00:34:41 accident. I don't understand. I don't understand. I don't understand. I don't understand. And that one, and I buy the movie, of course I do. But I just scratch my head. That's interesting. I go, no, no, no, he died horrible, horrible deaths. And he wakes up. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:58 So where did he go? Was it reality? I don't know. Well, it's a complete fantasy. You have to just go with it or not. Oh, really? Oh, I didn't't know. Well, it's a complete fantasy. You have to just go with it or not. Oh, I didn't know that. Oh, it is a complete fantasy. I see. Oh, I'll look at it again then. In a whole different light. Before I forget, there was a Twilight Zone and this one annoyed me.
Starting point is 00:35:21 As a lot of the Twilight Zone, I love the Twilight Zone, but every now and then you go, oh, come on. And this was a guy goes back in time to assassinate Hitler. I remember the character. So he checks into a rooming house where his window is right across from where Hitler will be making a speech. He's got his rifle ready.
Starting point is 00:35:45 And there's a knock on the door and it's the maid. And he goes, oh damn. And he opens the door. Why can't you say, I'm in the shower? Ha ha, yeah. Come back in 10 and have some chocolates. Yeah, yeah. Don't need the room.
Starting point is 00:36:02 So that ruined the whole episode for you. Yeah, don't need the room furnished, thanks anyway. Ten minutes, gotta kill Hitler. Killing Hitler, I'll be with you in a second. You guys are real sticklers for logic. In these things, it's fascinating. You're absolutely right. You have pushed the, you have hit the nail on the head.
Starting point is 00:36:21 I need to be truly convinced, I think Back to the Future does convince me. They tie up all the questions that I scratch my head about time after time. It answers those questions. Some of them don't. And that one, I agree with you. Why didn't you? Why did they do it?
Starting point is 00:36:39 Very interesting. I know. And yes, Frank, I know they're fantasies. I gotta admit. When you they're fantasy. I gotta admit Oh when you brought this up, I said, oh we're going to talk about fantastical movies one Twilight Zone That's the making a deal with the devil which is or a genie or something. Is it a Jack Clubman one? This is Lou Adler
Starting point is 00:37:04 Wow. Yeah, okay, and, Lou Adler. Wow. Yeah. Okay. And he plays like a Jewish pawnbroker. Lou Adler, the producer of the Mamas and the Papas? No, no! What's his name? No, Stella Adler Adler.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Lou Ayers? No, no, no. Stella Adler's brother. Yeah. Stella Adler's brother. Yes. Was it Lou? No, it was a different Adler.
Starting point is 00:37:23 But I know who you mean. What's his name? I know who dad, oh my God, Luther. Luther Adler. Luther Adler, Luther Adler. Well, I knew him, so I called him Lou. And so Luther Adler makes all these wishes and each one of them has got a bad twist on it, but he still has more wishes to go.
Starting point is 00:37:47 So finally he goes, I want to be the most powerful man in the world. And then the devil goes, okay. And then you see him in a dark room with a little black square mustache on, and Luther Adler, biggest Julia for me, in a very dramatic ending goes, Oh no, I'm Hitler in the bunker. We gotta do a whole Twilight Zone episode with you guys. And I thought, on paper, I'm sure that was powerful.
Starting point is 00:38:36 But when you watch it, it's jaw dropping. So hilarious. Drop in anytime, surprise us. This was a nice surprise. I love being here. A nice treat. You know, if you can't go have coffee, might as well have microphones. And your idea about the comedians will make a great future episode.
Starting point is 00:38:52 So come back. Yes. And I'm not just talking about comedians. I'm talking about actors. Yeah, Gilbert will love that idea. We just didn't have the time tonight for it. All righty. And this has been I'm Gilbert Gottfried with my co-host Frank Sanponpodre.
Starting point is 00:39:07 This has been Gilbert and Frank's amazing colossal session and the annoying shoe in the background who can't stop complaining is Richard Tine. Thank you Richard thank thank you to Christopher Kenny for the idea Colossal obsessions

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