Gilbert Gottfried's Amazing Colossal Podcast - GGACP Rewind: Episode #36: Gary Busey

Episode Date: May 7, 2026

Oscar-nominated actor Gary Busey has been in over 150 movies, working alongside everyone from Barbra Streisand to Steven Seagal. On a recent visit to LA, Gilbert sat down with Gary to talk about his near-death experience, his character “process” and channeling the spirit of Buddy Holly. Also, Gary hosts “Saturday Night Live,” spoons Mel Gibson, jams with Rick Danko and praises Gene Hackman. PLUS: Jack Elam! Jan-Michael Vincent! Rod Steiger eats a sandwich! And Gary tells Gilbert the meaning of life! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Godfrey's amazing colossal podcast. I'm here with my co-host, Frank Santo Padre. No, you're not here. He's not here. Well, Frank's not here. I'm in L.A. Frank Santo Padres, my co-host, is in New York. How long has a co-hosting job work being long-distance?

I'll see if it works. I'm up for everything, guys. Okay. I'm a free spirit. So, it's in New York. And I'm right here. Yes. And this is still.

Gilbert Godfrey's amazing colossal podcast, and I think it's still, Ah, Carrie Busey. Anyway, our guest this week is almost as well known for his on-screen antics as he is for his off-screen ones. He's an actor and musician who's been. than 150 movies, including a star is born, and lethal weapon, point break, the firm, fear and loathing in Las Vegas,

and of course the Buddy Holly story for which he was nominated for an Academy Award. Along his very strange journey, he's worked with icons like Clint Eastwood, Gene Hackman, Jeff Bridges, David Lynch, Sydney Pollock, Tom Cruise, Tony Curtis, Robert Duval, Dustin Hoffman, and Barbara Streisand. Please welcome the man who manages to make me seem grounded and normal, my friend Gary Busey. Yay! Hey, hey, well, thanks for the introduction there. I'm very happy to be with you right here by the Capitol Records Tower

and the Wicked Play going on over there. It's just great to be with you, Gilbert. I respect you. I have a great honor to be with you doing this stuff, and you incite me and motivate me and inspire me to do things that will feel like, Somebody just pull the rug out from under you. They're ready.

They're ready to fall. Well, you're scaring me already, Gary. Is that you laughing, Frank? That's me, Gary. That sounded like a young girl who lost her child wig. Small child's wigs are hard to lose. I have no comeback to that. No, first time I saw Gilbert was in a movie called Beverly Hills Cop.

And Eddie wanted to do this scene with Gilbert. And when the scene was over, I said, Who is that guy? I'd never seen Gilbert before. And I went, oh, my God, what happened? What happened to the director of the screenplay? But everything was on the money and knocked me out. And I'm very happy to be here today working with you.

And we have an idea we're working on for later talking that I'm very happy about. Yeah, that was Beverly Hillscop, too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Did you have trouble hearing the word cut? Cut. Let's talk about your most famous part.

And that was the Gary Busey story. That was the Buddy Holly story. You know, I had people come up to me after the movie and said, you were great in the Gary Bucci story. And I said, no, no, no, this buddy. That's funny. And one guy had tears in his eyes in New York City when we showed it there. And I went up to shake his hand and he said, get away from me, get away from me. You spook me.

You spook me. You had Buddy with you. And I said, well, thank you very much. And months later, after the movie was finished, I realized that I did channel Buddy Holly's spirit in my voice. And my whole posture changed when the movie was over. I felt smaller. I felt like I'm back to Earth because that movie took me someplace.

That project took me someplace that I hadn't been before. And I'm not talking about Star Trek. I'm talking about heavenly spiritual connection with Charles Hardin-Holly, aka A.K.A. Buddy. Oh, how did the part first come into your life? The people who, Joyce Selsnick, God bless her. George Selsnick, in a way, covered me and said she wanted to take me in and see the buddy holly people i said you can't make a

movie about buddy holly nobody can sing like him and i told her i remind her i was in a movie about buddy holly story called not fade away about the crickets and buddy holly three years ago but they didn't have the rights to merchandise holly's name in um commerce movies so then the guys came to town for philadelphia had never made him movie and then cast me as Holly and I said you guys every story they told me about buddy Holly I changed because I knew the truth then they took me down to village recorders and I sang two songs raining in my heart and heartbreak why do you kiss when my baby touches me got the gig when did it every shot was one take it was a magical

spiritual connection with Buddy. And you sang, you did all the singing yourself in that way. I did all the singing myself, myself, and playing the guitar. Yeah, I was live and in color. I was going to say, Gary, there were

so many great actors in that film in that ensemble was Charles Martin Smith, Don Stroud, and your old friend Gaylor-Sartain playing a big bopper. No, but what you don't... Great company. What you don't understand, Frank, was not great company. Really?

It was cast away from the authenticity of the drummer, Jay I. Allison and the bass player, Joe B. Malden. And so therefore it didn't work in that way. And the authenticity of it, because I know all those guys. I never knew Buddy, but I know him now very well because of the movie. And Jay Allison, Joe B. Mald and Sonny Curtis. People who knew Buddy back then were writing

songs where they'd been playing music with him. So I was on my own there, but I wasn't running because I had Buddy inside me and in my spirit. You were nominated for an Academy Award opposite to Niro and John Void and Sir Lawrence Olivier and Warren Beatty.

Tell us what John Void said to you on Oscar night. I found that kind of touching. John Void said, Gary, listen, you know what, if we all traded part, All five of us, none of us could do Buddy Holly like you did. And I said, thank you. And then John won the award. And I said, John, and winked at him and said, congratulations.

Well, you were, I guess, the first time, or one of the times, you were in a very serious motorcycle. And you weren't wearing a helmet. No, I wasn't. I wasn't. I went around the corner at Washington and Robertson, right across the street. from Bartels motorcycle shop, and I hit some dirt and spun, started fish tailing. And I hit the rear brake and the front brake, and it flipped me over and hit my head on the curb and split my skull open from the ear to the top of the crown and knocked a hole in my skull

about the size of a 50-cent piece. And they took bones out of my pelvis to replace the hole in my head. And my pelvis has a double compound fracture scar. But I'm living and walking, and I had to start all over at Daniel Freeman Theater, learning how to walk, talk, eat, dress, have a memory. I just started from nothing. I started from my source, my life, and went forward to become more so now than I was before the accident, because my brain has been altered.

It hadn't been damaged. I see life in a very, very different way than I did before that accident, that blessing, and that trip. It's really amazing what life can give you. It's really amazing. You just got to pay attention. And it's okay to be nuts. It's okay to be nuts. And when you first walked in, you gave me a plaque.

I gave Gilbert a plaque that has the word nuts on it. And nuts stands for using the letters that spelled. the word nuts. Never underestimate the spirit. When you are feeling the grace of the spirit, it's okay to be nuts for you, sir. Thank you. I'm going to put this up in my house. Now, and that's a great lesson. Now, so you had to relearn everything like an infant. Yeah. After the accident. Yeah. And it was a really enlightening experience. And you had to learn how to eat again. Yeah.

I would eat a lot of times with forks that had, I would eat without utensils, but I could feel the food going in me. This is the power of your mind. And then I would say I would take green beans about four of them and stick them up under my lip so I'd have a snack later. And then I ate as good as I could, but I needed help. You need help with everything you do for your coordination, you're posturizing, you're talking, even your, you're, you know, from the waist down, you have a set of plumbing in your body. Well, you have to work to do that.

So did you have to be potty trained again? Potty trained? Yeah. I don't remember it, but maybe so. That's when you could have videoed. No, not now. And you, but you experienced death. Huh?

You experienced death at that point. Well, I left my body and went to the other side. I died after brain surgery. I mean, my body kept work, quit working. So I found myself in the spiritual realm of the supernatural, surrounded by angels. It looked like just about as big as a volleyball, breathing gold lights and magenta and amber,

and three of the lights came right in front. front of my essence and the one line on the left spoke to me in thought an androgynous voice and told me what I was doing was good but what I the responsibility that was coming to me I had to look for help in the spiritual realm and said you can come now or turn to your body it's your choice and once when you're on the other side and you hear the truth that's where you are there's no thinking over there no thinking you you said I in an interview that You said in an interview, you had forgotten that whole experience. I had a what?

You had forgotten the whole experience in the other world. And then you saw ghost. Yeah, that's right. I had a friend of mine, Joan Culpepper, rest in peace, John. She said, go see this movie, Ghost. And I said, why? She said, you'll have an essence come from your subconscious to your conscious, and you'll realize you're not in the dream.

Oh, okay. So I went. And when I saw the balls of light around Patrick, that's when the weeping started from down deep. And when the movie was over, the credits roll, the lights come on, the audience leaves. My friend said, are you okay? And I looked at my friend and said, I've been there. I've been to the other side. And it was a boy, it's a beautiful experience, beautiful experience. gives me the power to motivate his power of the people with looking with love from my eyes to others and considering their feelings first. Even Frank. Yes. See, I got that...

I got that same feeling when I saw Abbott and Costello meet Frankenstein. You what? You touched Solomon and the gentles? What did you do, Solomon? He touched Solomon and the gentles? What is it gentle? Harry, I was told you had some anecdotes about hosting Saturday Night Live in 1978 and spending time with the original cast and Belushi in particular.

It was 79, and I don't even know what an anecdote is. It's not like a medicine. You put in your butt to keep you from fart. That's an antidote, yes. That's different. Now, that was like the wild time on that show. Yeah. And Belushi was there.

He was a crazy man. Belushi, yeah. When I was having the first meeting with the 19 Riders and Lauren Michaels. Bluzy called from L.A. And all the writers went, oh, no. And BluChi said,

tell all the writers I'm going to be an ever skit with you. Everyone. I said, okay, that's fine. The riders all go, but it worked. It worked. It was the best it could be.

My favorite skit we did was women's problems. Oh, sure. Where we talked about, Dan Aykroyd was the host. Then it was Bill Murray. Garrett Morris and me. And Dan said, what parts of a woman body you like the most?

And Murray said, breast, put me down for breasts. And what about you, Wally? That was me. Breasts, humongous breasts. And what about you, Mike? And that was Garrett. I like a woman with a big butt, something I can hang on to and hit with a car antenna. I remember it well. That episode also had the great Sunny Dacey

in the fireworks. Oh, but wait, wait. There was one line when they asked you, who was the ideal women for all of you? Oh, I said, Wonder Woman. I said, Wonder Woman is 6'4. But I remember when you said, you were talking about all of you who loved big breasts,

Garrett Morris loved a big butt, and then they said, who's the ideal woman, and all of you said Adrian Barbeau. No, I didn't say that. I said Wonder Woman. Oh, yeah? A Wonder Woman?

Yeah, she's 6'4. When I said that, Lauren said, oh, my God, I couldn't stop laughing. Because we were all... I was going to say, in that episode, that was the episode where you played with Rick Danco and Paul Butterfield. Yeah, that's the tour we put together.

He should have filmed it, but we didn't. And Rick and Paul are now gone to musical heaven but that was an incredible journey with Rick Danko who played bass with the band and Paul Butterfield who was a harmonica player like no other and now you have a thing a book called

Buccius. Yes Buccius. That's where I learned to do this several years ago I was dealing in the past and writing in the journal all the things I did wrong how it was betrayed and I said what are you doing this for This is in the past. Where are you?

I'm in the now. So the first abuseism was the word now. N-O-W stands for no other way. And it's a big, thick book, and it's going to be out. I don't know. Stephanie's gone, so I don't know who you can call in. When Stephanie comes back. And get abuseism from my home, like you have there are nuts.

Yeah. Do you know where? Did you go to Gary? Gary bucey dot com and click on Bucci as a Thank you very much

darn and now one of them is fart one of them is fart one of them is fart that's a bodily function you can't deny buddy yeah so you need to understand

that F-R-F-A-R-T stands for feeling a rectal transmission it's free it's easy it comes with the dinner you were giving that fart tube because to get the gas out of your

lovely little body. This podcast has never been so educational. Gary, let me ask you about your musical background and the rubber band and I'm interested in, I think our listeners would be interested in how you made the transition from music to acting.

They're both the same thing. They're just different instruments. Acting is the instrument with my body. Music is an instrument like the drums I play and the guitar I play. And they're both music, though, in my feeling of truth, is the highest art form of them all. Music is. Tell us a little bit about the rubber band and how you guys made your way out to L.A.

Well, I transferred to Oklahoma State University in Oklahoma when I hurt my knee playing football, so I lost my athletic scholarship. And I took a drama, drama scholarship to OSU. And I was pledging Segma Kye, so I went in their house. house. They had a piano player, a bass player, or a guitar player. And I was just learning to play the drums self-taught. So we formed a band, ended up being the best band on the campus. Then we went to California and made a deal with Epic Records. And that's when the name of the band was C-A-R-P, C-A-R-P, which is a horrible name. And then we broke up when I started acting because I had to leave the band to go do the stuff on the set. And it was just an automatic, just

the natural segue. I see. Now, you talked about taking drama. Oh, wait a minute. One other thing. I must say, the music that I played and still play gave me the inspiration and the knowledge of free openness to do the Buddy Holly story. Did you play drums with Leon Russell and Willie Nelson and Chris Christofferson? Do I have that right?

Yeah, you do. And I wanted to ask you, you said you took. drama lessons and you always hear stories about how actors prepare for a role. Well, I never prepared for nothing because I think acting is the absence of acting.

I think it's believing the truth in the moment you're creating. You know, the back then the old days they were doing this. In film, you have a lava layer mic and a mic here. You talk like that.

Honey, listen to me. I want to reach your ears with softness. my whisper. That brings the audience very close into the heart of the players on the screen. If you were hired to do the Gilbert Gottfried story, how would you prepare?

Oh dear. I would have to study your childhood. You know, your authentic childhood and have an interview with your parents and also your beautiful, significant other, and people you worked with. And I would get that all in a line.

And, of course, we're not the same side. We don't have the same color of air. Same color faces, yeah. But so what's in a color? I don't see the color of someone. I see the heart of someone. And that's a beautiful thing. For you, I would see your heart.

And I would see your emphatic nature to be just obnoxious. You're so good at obnoxiousism. I mean, celebrity apprentice, talking to the executives. And if you try to do that, I'll go. I can't do it. I can't even keep underwear. Okay. That's uncanny.

It is uncanny. Wow. Okay, I want to ask you, smart man. Okay. A minimum intelligence. You've got me figured out. Yeah, I know. It's easy.

Yeah. Where do the word uncanny come from? I don't know. You're supposed to know. Well, I don't. Well, if you don't make it up, give me a good one. It means before cans were invented, everything, all these green beans and things like that were uncanny. It means they, because they couldn't be put in cans.

You sound like you're on the old Liars Club with Jack Barrett. On the Liars Club? I'm sorry. Make it up, making up definitions. Am I correct, Gary? Your point? Am I correct? No.

Yes. No. No. Uncanny has nothing to do with being in the can or not. Well, that would be a homosexual reference. Homosexual reverts would be riding a ferris wheel backwards with the underwear down. So, if you don't indulge in anal sex, you're uncanny. Anal sex?

Yes. What does a can have to do with a rectum? I would think of like, you know what, can has been used for both breast and, uh, and, uh, and asses. Sometimes you see a girl she has nice cans, or look at that big round can. What is the round ten?

Her ass, Gary. Well, I'll meet you round ten, we'll figure this out. What does uncanny mean, Gary? Uncanny means something that can't be understood by the way it's said. Oh, interesting. Interesting. This means you can't understand the definition of what it truly is.

because you're missing the fabric of its core, and that's uncanny. Now, you told me the definition of relationship. Yes. And you abuseism. Yes. Could you repeat that? Yes. R-E-L-I-O-N-S-H-I-B stands for really exciting love affair turns into overwhelming nightmare.

sobriety hangs in peril. On the other hand, let's look at romance. R-O-M-A-N-C-E. R-O-M-A-N-C-E. R-O-M-A-N-C-E. R-O-M-M-A-N-C-E. Hey! That's what I mean. It's impressive that you memorize all of these, Gary. I don't memorize it.

I travel with cue cards. There's 500 of them in here now. I see. Can I ask something about, I saw an interview with, and you were talking with you when you were talking about how you create a backstory for every character you play, like Mr. Joshua. So you do prepare.

No, I don't prepare. I don't prepare. Mr. Joshua, the antagonist in lethal weapon, yeah? Lethal weapon, yeah. I remember I'm not having a senior moment like Gilbert. Okay. Okay, Mr. Joshua, here's his backstory. He would walk through his grandmother's blood.

to get a postage stamp and never lick at her. That's the epitome of the definition of being cold in your heart and your eyes. Do you do that with every character you play? I do that with every one I meet, buddy. So you fucking lied to me and said you don't prepare? That's not preparation. Yeah. Okay.

That's not preparation. That's giving me the backbone of Mr. Joshua's emotional feeling. Okay. Could you give us the backbone of some of your other... characters. Like an under siege, you're this psycho who was going to... Well, that was great. John Lawton saw the other night. It was a greeting called Whiplash that you all must see. And he wrote a scene for me when Andy Davis,

the director gave me a book about the USS Missouri going to combat zone. When they crossed the equator, all the first-year sailors have to do horrendous things. And there's an executive officer that dresses up like a woman. And he's called Queen of the Wags. Wogs, Wags, Wags, which is short for Pollywag. At the end of that day, all the first year sailors ready for combat are graduated into a shellback, which is they have the right mental armor on them to face the enemy.

And I told Andy, I said, well, I got an idea from the book. He said, yeah, what is it? I'm going to kill the captain and drag. Why? Well, because crew doesn't like me. I'm going to send with the Fosco. And that's the deal. I said, okay, so I did it.

And I'm sitting there at the desk with a 44 double-D stuffed bra on the desk. And my panty hose ran my hand, the makeup on that I put on myself. I said, Tommy Lee-John's character was Strannix. Stranix. Look what I'm going through. Nobody likes Commander Krill. He needs to go to the hospital. Something's wrong with him in a mental way.

We've got to take care of this guy. We've got to take care of this officer. Then I looked at the time and he said, do I look like I need psychological evaluation? And he said, not at all. Boom. And we're out. And the way I look saying that,

I belong in the padded room on the lower story of the Mental Institute. the way I looked. And I bet you saw me like that, and it wouldn't have mind going out with me. Maybe not. So it's kind of like when they criticize an actor and they say you could see the wheels turning.

I'll give you an example. Kirk Douglas was sitting with Lawrence Olivier. And Kirk said, Lawrence, I got this review. This is a bad review. Look what is saying about me. Look what it's saying about me. Look what it's doing.

This is horrible. This is a horrible review. And Olivier said, My son, you must learn to get over the good reviews as fast as you can get over the bad reviews. They're meaningless. Yay. That's from Lawrence Olivier, folks.

Here's one you would know. What is the meaning of life? You're talking about Monty Python? No, do you have any theory? You're talking about me and Mr. Creasot? Yeah, he threw up until he bombed everybody in the restaurant with his vomit. But what? That's a big eater.

What's your feeling about if I just had to ask you the meaning of life? If you're right off the back. The meaning of life is forever unlimited. And it has everything to do with the freedom you hold in your heart. and the way you feel good about everything, the way a smile makes you feel good about yourself and good to other people and other people will feel good. One way to do this smile technique is to get a kitchen timer for an egg.

It's one minute. And when you put the egg in the water, you set up the chick kitchen timer for the egg. It goes, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. And while that's going on, the bathroom mirror, you're looking at yourself, and you start laughing. I think, this is stupid, God, this is stupid. And then you laugh, then about 25 seconds into it, you see what you're doing to yourself, and you laugh for real at it, and you're really laughing

at yourself. And then when, ding, when the timer's over, ding, you go outside and you're already automatically smiling. And your aura, your rhythm, your vibration, is floges. in a way of compatibility to others. It's smiling and laughing. Life is really, nothing on the earth is forever, but life is forever because you don't die, and I've been dead. I've been on the other side twice.

What was the other time other than the motorcycle? It's like explaining an orgasm to a 10-year-old. You ready? Okay. What? No, on the other side, you don't think, you don't have emotions, you don't, you just feel, and you see forever. But you're seeing with your spirit. And you can go anywhere you want to as fast as a finger snap.

That means we could go from here to the three stars of Orion's belt and go around the three stars and be back to where you started from in less than a second. It is so pure and nothing but life over there in the spiritual realm. And I've had angels visit me. I've had people who passed away visit me. One day I was sitting on a bench out the back of the house, and Patrick Swayze, who just passed away from pancreatic cancer, I felt his energy and I saw him, a vision of him. He flew right through me, and right behind him was my earthly father, flew through me.

the spiritual realm is all around us now we're sitting in it but the deviations life can give us no i don't do that i don't do that no no you're thinking without feeling and when you think without feeling you're not living life to its fullest example of who you are in your truth in your core and why you came here and the only reason we come to earth to get in this dense body and have parents and peer groups and go to schools where we went. We're here for one reason, and that's to find the truth of ourselves. And when you find the truth of yourself, you automatically are your best friend. And that makes everyone else your best friend.

Because there's no judgment. There's no, I don't know. There's none of that. Leave that alone. Put that away. That's life. Freedom. Now when you're dead, when you're...

Now when you're dead? Yeah. You don't die. You don't. But when you're in that other realm, is that total happiness? Yeah. It's not happy because, you know, happy is an emotion on earth. Sadness.

That's an emotion on earth. You don't have any of that over there. You have what life is, which is freedom. And the word freedom, F-R-E-D-O-M, I'm going to give you abuseism for the word freedom. F-R-E-D-O-M stands for facing real, excited. energy developing out of miracles. And the miracle is the greatest freedom you can have. And their miracles and blessings are all around us.

Just got to reach up and catch them when they come down. Now here's something I'm not done. I always, oh, go ahead. Go ahead. I'm kidding. I just thought I'd pull you out of it. Go ahead. I'm sorry.

Oh, no, don't be sorry. Did you fart? No. What are your fries smell like to get personal? You eat kosher food, don't you? Cheer up, Gilbert. This is all going to get better. We will return to Gilbert Gottfried's amazing colossal podcast after this.

Now, here's something I want to know about... Oh, finally. Well, about heaven and stuff. Oh, heaven, yeah. If that's what you'd call it. Now, it... That's an earth word. Does, yes, but does sex exist after you die?

Because you're a spirit now. You're not a physical being. No, sex does not exist over there because you don't have to reproduce. Earth is for reproduction. Let's get together and multiply, reproduce, get all these people to work on the farm. If you're a Mormon, you're going to have 30 kids so the farm can keep working. Well, that's not. Yeah, yes and no.

There's no sex over there. Love over there is beyond love you feel here, and you don't need sex. You did a movie with someone we interviewed recently, Roger Corman. Wow. My first movie. It was called Angels, Heart as They Come. And it was me and Scott Glenn. That's for Scott and I met.

We've done three movies together, Scott and I. God bless Scott. You're great. Good man. And we had to... I had a van and drove my van there. There were no dressing rooms. You got dressed out in the woods.

There's one little shack without one wall. That was where the costumes were. Everything was quick, hitting fast, and dusty, and it was my first time. And it was like great. It was like a quasi-boot camp for doing a movie, and it was a gift. I called it the gift and a blessing to be able to be chosen to play,

Henry the Hippie. and Charlie Deercopp, wonderful actor, killed me. And that's, to play dead in your first movie you're doing, you have to be shot and die. Man.

Gilbert and I love Tony Curtis, Gary. Did you, any special or fond memories of working with Tony Curtis and insignificant? Nothing in my life is sad. And the word sad,

S-A-D, that stands for seeking another detour. Huh? Gary's wife is correcting him. She's correcting him on the afternoon. She's correcting abuseism. Would you like to come on the mic and say what the...

Come on, Stephanie. We want to hear your lovely voice. I think Stephanie said, seeking another defeat. Well, that's what she's always doing. But Tony Curtis. Stephanie is beautiful. Tony Curtis, okay. That's the movie Insignificance I was talking about.

He played Senator Joe McCarthy. I played the ball player. Theresa Russell played the actress. Marilyn Monroe, DiMaggio, and Emil, Michael Amiel, who never acted before, but who looked just like Einstein was here. So we did that movie together. And Tony and I would go, we hung out a lot together. And I haven't seen him in a while, but we hung out a lot together after the movie.

And we were shooting in New York City, Incidentificance, We were dressed in 1950 clothes, and we went over to a sushi bar and had sushi. And I said, one of the movies, said, one of your works, it's an honor to me to see and to know you now. Some like it hot. What was that like? And he went, oh, my God, oh, my God. Oh, my God. I said, well, okay.

What do you mean? Oh, my God. and he said, look at me, he said, Marilyn Monroe. I said, oh yeah, she's really pretty. Oh, my God, oh, my God. He said the love scene they did on the couch, Marilyn and Tony, she wanted to make it real and imagineate her feeling him inside her.

And it just, boy, Tony said, I was up and Adam in no time. But there's no penetration of the women, but still again, I might as well have been. Because Marilyn's taking a role, taking a performance, taking the scene, and putting yourself into it so deep that that felt safe for her and her person. Her person, Marilyn Monroe, taking the character she's playing the singer and the all-girls band to take it in that deep in her mind, in her heart. heart and her soul. So Marilyn

was actually experienced Tony Curtis fucking her in that scene. Well, so she feels. Yeah. And that's what counts for her. Maryland was misused and mistaken and misled.

But boy, did she leave a mark. I saw her in a movie last night, two nights ago called Bus Stop. And the freshness she has, the freshness, the energy, the excitement she has, comes out in her face. And she was the very first playmate for you, Hefner's Playboy. Now, were you, do you ever watch your own movies?

Do you ever watch my own movies? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I do. Yeah, I want to see what I've done. Which movie have you loved yourself in? What? You thought, which movie have you seen?

when you said, wow, I really did it at that time. Buddy Holly's story. I saw it the other night, and I hadn't seen it a long time, and it's so pure. Where are you going? You okay? Come here. What was it like working with Dustin Hoffman? Now, what was it like working with Dustin Hoffman? Oh, it was great. Straight time.

Dusty was really supportive with me, and that was the beginning of my career pretty soon. Yeah. I did a gumball rally. A Star is Born. Straight time with Dustin. Big Wednesday. Buddy Holly. All in a row without a day, without much time off.

And you tell us more about a star is born. What? A star is born. A star is burning. A star is born. Yes. When's your birthday? February 28th.

That's good. That's when a star was born. That's what I'll tell you about that. Cheer up. But the movie, a star is born. Oh, yeah, what about it? Yeah, Chris Christophysit and Barbara Streisand. What's the difference in who?

One's a man, one's a woman. It's pretty easy to see. Well, that's the question. I wanted to know which one was the man and which was the woman. Which one was a man? It had to be Chris. Okay. Even though Chris is also a girl.

You said that Barbara Streisand, said something to you. I like the way to direct you. I'm telling you, I've never been told this before, and when she said it to me, God, I just, inside I just went like that because she hit it right on the head. After Daly's one time, we came out,

and she said, Busey. And I said, yeah. She said, I know what to do to get you to do things my way. And I said, what? Tell you the opposite. And I went, oh my God. I said, close with no cigar.

But what I meant, what was true is she hit the nail right on the hand. She's brilliant. So give us an example of this. What? Give us an example of what a director could say to you and how you'd react. Oh.

Depends on what it is. Well, if he said, be very sad. You're wrong. Okay, okay. No. They can't direct emotions. Yeah. The emotion comes to the line. I had a line in Big Wednesday, and it's when the three of us were going to Mexico.

And I came out and said three words, surfboards, women, and guns. And I said, what does that mean? To direct your job, Melias. What does that mean? Surfboard women was, what's my motivation there? He said, you're talking about three of the best things in the world. and I went, oh yeah! Simple direction comes from another direction.

But he's one of my buddies, Spielberg, Millius, Terry Gilliam, oh my gosh. You work with some really iconic directors, Millius, David Lynch and Sidney Pollock as well, in addition to Gilliam. I'd go up to David Lynch, who were doing the movie called Lost Highway. and he had on the same khaki hat with a real long bill, a black shirt and khaki pants. And I say, David, what are we doing today? And he would look at me and pause and go, I don't know.

And that was it. Pretty good direction. You're on your own. And you worked with, I'll just say some names to you. Gene Hackman. Gene Hackman. and worked with Gene in the firm, but we didn't have scenes together, but he was there. And when I met him in the case, when you go to lunch, what I met him in that line is like

meeting royalty. Gene Hagman, man. He's just, whoa. And Robert Duval. Robert Duval. He's an interesting, eccentric, beautiful artist. I first met Robert Duval when he was on screen and to kill a mockingbird playing Boo Ratley. Great. We did a show called To Get Harry, or Let's Find Harry.

And Robert Ryan. Robert Ryan is very quiet, withdrawn man. That was the first, as it began my career, so I didn't know much about him, but now I do. Man, that guy has been around the horn, Robert Ryan. Incredible actor. Oh, Rod Steiger. Had a scene with Steiger sitting across from him. Which movie? At the other house, Lolly Madonna War.

Okay. And Stager was looking at me, and he prepared a sandwich on a piece of bread with ketchup and raisins. And the mother, his wife, Ross Sager's wife, standing at the door, was going to shoot me in the head with a squib blowing out my brains here. And I had to wait. This is tough. I had to wait until that shot was fired. I couldn't register any expectation of anything. That's sitting there like a frog on a log, you know.

And when it came off, I went out. And then when we had lunch, I sat in the table next to Sam Peckinpaw. Hmm, you know that throat. And he gave me a good look, you know, like he was impressed with what he saw. And that's all that happened. But I was impressed with, oh, look at me, I got blood hanging. I got my hair all out of here with blood. blood all over it and running down.

That must be a very hard thing to do. What? When you know a squib, which is an explosive, it's going to blow blood out of the side of your head and act like you don't know what's coming up. What they do, they take a piece of leather about three inches long and about two inches wide, and they put a quarter, they blew a quarter on that piece of leather.

Then there's four holes in the corners of the leather on each point. they put that under your hair and take your hair and weave it through the holes and tie it on your hand. There's a quarter. Then they take the splib, which is the blood shoot. They put that on the top of the quarter. Then they take the wire to that, run it down the back, down my shirt, and out my leg and over there so the guy can go to set off the squib. It's a lot harder than crossword puzzles. I'll tell you that.

You know, Gary Gilbert and I have a, we love Jack Elam, the old character actor. I think the first time I ever saw you was in the show The Texas Wheelers. If you could look him up, or he was always that actor who had an eye pointing in the other direction. You know what he did? He did a lot of shows on, he did Gunsmoke shows, and they're at Studio City Studios. And they'd go across the street and play Lair's Poker. Jack was a brilliant mathematician and he had that one eye

he got stabbed in the eye with a pencil when he was 12 that's how that happened for Jack but he would win I'd say he'd come back from lunch I'd say Jack how'd you do $85

dollars see now him getting stabbed he'd have little bottles of clear not gin. You know, you see these, you know, the set is on, it's a bunch of boards like this and like this, and they stick out four inches.

You see those little bottles empty sitting on those. Then at 5 o'clock he'd go to Brown. It's so funny. God bless you, Jack Elam. I love you, man. God bless you in the name of my Savior, Jesus Christ. How life works. He'd go. that him getting stabbed

in the eye, Jack Elyleham getting stabbed in the eye with a pencil when he was a kid would, you know, catapult his career. Oh, Mel Gibson. You have something to say about Mel Gibson. Men's history?

Good enough. Men's history. Started with Adam. Who writes the damn questions here? Yes. Men's history. Yes. Men's history. One.

When you co-star. with men's history. Why, and you co-starred with Mel Gibson? Oh, that guy. Yeah, he is the definition of men's history. That guy there. No, Mel's great. We had such a great time doing lethal weapon. And that fight scene at the end, it took five nights to film from 5 p.m. to 5 a.m. and it was full speed, four martial arts, cameras everywhere. The water coming on the fire hydrant was pointed. The drops were pointed at both in. as big as your little finger, hitting you pretty hard. And there's one shot of us before we had to start the fight scene

in a certain position in the fight scene, and we had to start on the ground. So there's a picture of Mel and I, there's a picture of Mel and I spooning, you know, like gay lovers of Fire Island. We're laying there all turtled up together. But did action? Gay!

It went ahead. It was great working with Mel. Steven's a guy. I worked with him in. time. He's very smart. You've got a good way of thinking. And of course, we all go through our things in life that transfers into a better place. And that's what he's done. Huh? Oh, whoa. Yeah, Gary Busey's wife leaned over to him and said, tell him why you were spawning, Mel Gibson. It was a way to understand that we enjoyed how we inserted each other's

suppositories. We were spouting because it was freezing cold and we were damn near shirtless and we spooned because we were body heat kept you warm. At least that's your side of the story. Is that what you want to hear?

This far without Gary killing me. So I feel One thing that I really liked in the beginning of my career was when a show that was on the air for 18 years was going off the air and the show I was on would be the last show. And I was, it was called the Busters, B-U-S-T-E-R-S.

And it was about these Bronco Busters and I fell off the horse, my horse, in the show and hit my head on a fence post. And I died in the streets because my buddy, John Beck, the actor, we were going to make money and go build a ranch in Montana. And I died with my eyes open and one I crossed. And they called me back in and said it's against TV standards to die with your eyes open on TV. Wow. So they said, I didn't know that. That's great.

They said, Gary, you ready? And I said, yeah. And here's what I did when they said action. Say action. Action. He's squinting his eyes, basically like me. He said, relax, Gary. And I did it.

So I died twice on gun smoke. So back then, it. You couldn't die with your eyes open on TV. That's right. Wow. Now, look. You know what Wow stands for? Okay.

Speaking of buzscheisms. Walking on water. Stephanie. That's Stephanie's beauty. These you can all get with Gary Busey's Bucciisms on Gary Bucci.com. Yeah, yeah. Come there and we'll send you one that you want. and then there's going to be a book published this year sometime called Spiritual Lyrics,

aka Bucciisms. And Gary, before we go tell our listeners about your foundation. Kawasaki Disease Foundation. BucieFoundation.org. Kawasaki disease is very, very, very much alive. And we're here to put it out by research. laboratory tests, and get these kids and their families together to get to the doctor fast. Anyway, this has been Gilbert Gottfried's amazing colossal podcast.

I must tell you, Gilbert Godfrey, your amazing colossal podcast, that this is a joy for me to be asked up here by you to pontificate the meaning of nonsense syllables. Hey, can you figure out what Gilbert means in your way, abusive? Man, I'm telling you. G-I-L-B-E-R-T. Oh, you don't do business with a name. Yeah. Proper name, no.

Oh, no. Okay, so this has been Gilbert Gottfried's amazing colossal podcast. I've been here kind of over the phone with my co-host, Frank Santo Padre. What do you mean, kind of? Well, he's not sitting next to me. I know. He's absent. He's not here.

Yes. Well, he's here in voice and spirit. Take it with a laugh. Anyway. Nice chatting with you guys. Not chatting with you, Frank. You're very good... Shut up, Gilbert.

You're a very good sport, Frank. So are you, buddy. You gave me a lot of feeling to deal with, and they were good feelings. And we thank you for giving us your time and doing this for us. And when I come to New York, we're going to have to go out and shout insults at people wearing sippers. That leaves out the Amish.

You're right. Okay. While I'm trying to figure out what this interview was, we have been interviewing the great Gary Busey. Yeah, I think nothing was said, nothing was heard, nothing was done. It's like every one of my podcasts, basically. I think this is exceptional, and people will be riding in to get eight by tens of you. Let's hope.

Yeah, let's hope. No, it's already happening. HOPE, H-O-P-E, another business is for you. Yes. The word hope, H-O-P-E, stands for, heavenly offerings prevail eternally. Oh, wow. Now, what about hate? What?

Hate. Hate, H-A-T-E. Holding a treacherous energy. Wow. How about anger? Okay. Anger. Another negative grievance.

explaining rage. And that is you. Gilbert, I mean. Not you for me. Thank you, Gary Pusey. Thanks, Gary. Yeah, you welcome. Oh, oh, wait, wait. Are you paying me now? I'm not kidding.

Can you do an imitation of me before we go? Yeah. This is Gilbert Gidefield. I'm talking with Gary Piersy. I can't believe the guy's got teeth bigger in the graveyard and got it out. What did you say? Alpha Gata. Where's Alpha Gata? I don't care.

Okay, back to what we were talking about. We were talking about me. I want to let you know how I brush my teeth in the dark. That's it. I'm a... Keep saying cheer up. Keep saying cheer up. I'm cheered up.

Get five smooth stones. What? Get five smooth stones. Say it? Huh? Say it? or get it? No, get, get five smooth stones. And it will come to you what to do with them.

Okay. Well, you've got your homework assignment, ladies and gentlemen. It's a lot of pressure. Okay. Do you know where that came from? You want to know where it came from? I'm scared to ask. Oh, do you ask?

Okay, where did it come from? From me to you. What is that? So life that simple. Life is simple. You're on my cord. Oh, I beg you. You're on my cord.

I'm not reading. Can't breathe. Did I say this? I think you did. He didn't. He's trying to find out which vowel to use next. Did I say this has been Gilbert Godfrey-Zemate? How many times you have to say that?

You think people aren't hearing you? I don't know. I'm repeating myself. You know, it's funny. you repeat yourself because the more you repeat yourself, the more you forgot what you're repeating. See, that's true. So I won't repeat it. Oh, go ahead. Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, Gary Hughes. Thank you. It's been an honor being here.