Gilbert Gottfried's Amazing Colossal Podcast - GGACP Rewind: Episode #43: Bobby Rydell

Episode Date: June 4, 2026

The pride of South Philadelphia, former teen idol Bobby Rydell joins Gilbert and Frank at the Friars Club’s George Burns Room to talk about his early days as a drummer, his hit records “Swinging S...chool,” “Wild One” and “Volare” and his memorable role as Ann-Margret’s lovesick boyfriend Hugo Peabody in the movie musical “Bye Bye Birdie.” Also, Bobby opens for Joey Bishop, tours with the Everly Brothers, shares a drink with Ol’ Blue Eyes and inspires the Beatles’ classic “She Loves You.” PLUS: Crazy Guggenheim! Clem Kadiddlehopper! Bobby plays the legendary Copa! John Wayne meets the Son of God! And Guy Marks steals Uncle Miltie’s thunder! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:53 Luxury sales claim based on S&P Global Mobility Canadian New Vehicle Total Registrations for Calendar year 2025 for the Cadillac definition of luxury. Gottfried, this is Gilbert Gottfried's amazing colossal podcast, and I'm here with my co-host, Frank Santo Padre. If you're familiar with the stage musical or the movie Greece, then you're also familiar with Rydell High, which was named after today's guest, former teen idol Bobby Rydell. We sat down with Bobby in the George Burns' room at the Friars Club, and we chatted about his hit songs like Volare and Wild One,
Starting point is 00:01:56 and about working with people like Red Skelton and Milton Burl. And yes, Milton Burl's penis did come up in conversation. And about his role as Hugo Peabody in Bye Bye Birdie, not to be confused with Mr. Peabody, in Problem Child. And of course, me being the deviant I am, I asked him if he ever got extra friendly with Anne Margaret, although I didn't use the term extra friendly. So, here's our interview with musical icon, Bobby Rydell. Hi, I'm Gilbert Gottfried, and this is Gilbert Gottfried's amazing colossal podcast.
Starting point is 00:02:47 I'm here with my co-host, Frank Santa Padre. Our guest today is a celebrated singer-actor and former teen idol. He's recorded 34 top hits including Kissing Time Volati and the number one single Wild One. He worked with Jack Benny, Dick Clark, Red Skelton, Joey Bishop, and Perry Como, and was a regular on the Milton Burl Show. In addition, he was playing with Anne Margaret. Not playing with Ann Margaret, but he was a long-time-suffering boyfriend, Hugo Peabody, with Anne Margaret in the classic movie, Bye Bye Birdie.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Welcome to Pride of South Philly, Bobby Rydell. I show up five minutes late, Bobby Rydell takes my fucking job. Did this own intro. Don't blame me. It's 57th Street. Yeah. What a mess. Holy geez.
Starting point is 00:04:05 I'm used to people stealing my voice by now. It's great. I love it. I love it. The one thing, because as you had on the show, some time ago, Frankie Avalon, a very dear friend. And I started to do one of the jokes that you did.
Starting point is 00:04:22 And Frankie just went crazy. And the joke was, uh, So this guy goes to the doctors. And the doctor said, I got bad news. You got cancer and Alzheimer's disease. And the guy says, thank God I don't have cancer. That's the joke. I loved it.
Starting point is 00:04:45 And Frankie fell down. Now, tell, tell us. Who told and how he told you? No, no, no, no. You know, because I love you, Gilbert. And I just went on YouTube, you know, and you do something like 10 jokes. And the one with the cancer and the Alzheimer's disease, you know, that one stood out to you. Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Absolutely. So I did that for Frankie Avalon. But I heard Frankie Avalon after he did the show, he was raving to you. Oh, he loved doing the show with you. And Frankie said to me, you got to do it. You got to do Gilbert's radio show. And I said, great, I'll try and get in touch with him. I'll call Dick Fox, my manager, and see if he can arrange something.
Starting point is 00:05:32 And here we are. That's a pretty good impression. I have to tell you, Bob, it's pretty good. You started out doing impressions. Before we turn on the mics, we were talking about Crazy Guggenheim, one of your early impressions. Originally, the character was John L. C. Savoni. Then when he went on to the Gleason show, he became Crazy Guggenheim, you know. But, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Oh, okay. Here. Yes. You, Joe? Hi. No, I'm crazy. Yeah, oh, wait. Hi, you, Mr. Donahey.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Hey, crazy. It's Crazy Guggenheim. Hi, Joe. How's everything doing? Oh. That may be the best one I've seen. You know, Joe, I was reading this magazine, you know, American's magazine, and I was talking about Christopher Columbus. And he was really terrific.
Starting point is 00:06:38 His mother said, hey, Chris, what are you doing around the house? Why don't you go out and get a job? He says, all right, Mom. I think I'll go discover America. Best Frank Fontaine, I've heard. You know who does a great Fontaine? Steve Lawrence. Does he?
Starting point is 00:07:02 He's wonderful. We got to get Steve for the show. Oh, you have to get Steve. Yeah. He's wonderful. You started out. I think your father and your parents would take you to shows. Correct.
Starting point is 00:07:15 That's right, Gilbert. If I had any talent within me whatsoever, my dad was the first one to see it. And he used to take me around to local clubs in Philadelphia, CR Club, 2-4 Club, BR Club, B.R. Club, Skioli's, Pala. Bumbo's RDA Club. And my father would say, would you mind if my son got up and sang a song and did a few impersonations? And when your father was in the army, your mother used to write letters.
Starting point is 00:07:43 That's right. Yeah, you'd send letters. My mother would write to my father, and he was overseas in Persia, I believe, at the time. And my mother said, in the letter to my father, she said, the baby's always singing. The baby. I'm three years old. at the time. And my father wrote back, and to this day I still have the letter, and he wrote back to my mother, and he said, well, who knows, Jenny? Maybe we'll have a star in the family. So that
Starting point is 00:08:12 was like 1943? No, no, excuse me, 45. And you, he wanted a by you, you were interested in playing drums. Well, the reason that that happened, I think I was about five years old, six years old, And we had a theater in Philly called the Earl Theater. He used to bring in all the big bands, Dorsey, Texpenicky, Artie Shaw, Benny Goodman. One Saturday afternoon, he took me to see the Benny Goodman band. And who was playing drums for Benny Goodman was Gene Kruper. And I said to my father, I don't know who he is, Daddy, but I want to be him. I want to be just like him.
Starting point is 00:08:52 And I started playing drums at around five, six years old. And how was your father able to afford the drum? Well, actually, we went to a pawn shop. We went to a pawn shop first. He bought me my first set of drums called Revere drums. They were terrible drums, but it was a drum set. And I'm like, you know, six years old. And then my father was working for a company called the Electronite Carbon Company in Philadelphia,
Starting point is 00:09:19 and he was working on a punch press. And he cut his middle finger off, and they gave him a bonus. And that became my first real set of drums. and it was William F. Ludwig, black oyster pearl, the same set that Ringo played with the Beatles. Wow.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Yeah, same set. Well, not the same set, but the same type. Back then, you lost a finger they gave you a couple of bucks. That's what happened. No pressure to stay with the drums, by the way.
Starting point is 00:09:47 And my father had to beat a middle finger. So go figure, you know. Well, to this day, my dad said he wasn't really all that big. So I guess the middle finger, you know, kind of, you know, it missed somehow. So you started out as a drummer? Basically, yeah. I started out as a drummer.
Starting point is 00:10:09 And matter of fact, Avalon called me. And it was a place in Bay Shores, Summers Point, New Jersey. And Frankie was with a group called Rocco and the Saints. And he called me up and he said, our drummer is sick. Could you come in, sit in and play? and I went there, sat in, got out from behind the drums, sang some songs, and a guy who was a bass player for a band called Billy Duke into Dukes. His name was Frankie Day, his real name, Francesco Cocky, and I'm 15 years old, Gilbert, and he says, I'd like to manage you. I said, I don't know what the hell you're talking about. Talk to my father.
Starting point is 00:10:50 And my dad was there, and Frank said, I think your son has talent. I'd like to see if I can do anything with him. and we just shook hands. And that was, oh, I guess the, around 19506. And then you got on a talent show. The talent, well, I was 10 years old at the time, and it was called the Paul Whiteman TV Team Club. And it was a young show that gave amateur talent a chance,
Starting point is 00:11:19 you know, to get a break in the business. And I went on the show doing Sammy Davis's version of Because of You where one side he did actors doing singers and the B side of the record he did singers doing actors and I did the actors doing singers you know and to this to the song of because of you can I put you on the spot well let me see let me see if I remember it my god well like you know say it was Cagney you know well because of you there's a song it you know it's like that And you kids.
Starting point is 00:12:01 What was the Sammy? I just hurt myself. What was the Sammy impression? Was the what? There was a Sammy. Oh, no, no. There was no Sammy. At the end of the record.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Oh, I got it. On the B side of the record, Sammy says, and now this is me. Because of you. Oh, I see. My life is now worthwhile. So he does all of the characters. It was you impersonating Sammy impersonating famous people. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:12:24 I assume you probably did a John Wayne or something or a Bogart. Well, I'll tell you. Pelagrim. I didn't do John Wayne on that. No. That was good. Pretty good. Well, did Frank do his Wayne thing for you? Oh, yeah, he did. Because he was in the Alamo. Well, yeah. Frankie, that was his first motion picture, the Alamo. We did dueling Lagosies. That's right. We may hate that. That's right. No, Frankie, he's funny. He's funny. He says, he says to me, Bobby, you do great impersonations. And I say, Frank, you know, you're not too Shabby yourself. And he says, I do an impersonation that nobody does. And I said, who's that, Frank? And he said, Ed Wynn. And we were leaving a
Starting point is 00:13:11 restaurant in Cleveland, my drummer, myself, Frankie, and his wife, Kay. I said, Edwin. And he just went like this. Do you know my son, Keenan? And I fell down, man. He's funny, man. You're the third person to do Keenan win because Frankie did it and Chuck McCann did a Keenan win. Oh, Chuck McCann did it as well? He did a Keenan win for us, yes. And it was hilarious.
Starting point is 00:13:38 It was absolutely hilarious. And the thing he told me about John Wayne was in the movie, the greatest story ever told. One, he's a Roman. Yes. Right? Soldier looking up at Jesus Christ on the cross. And his line is, well, I guess he really is
Starting point is 00:13:55 the son of God. And the director, whoever the director was at the time, okay, Duke, his lightning, his thunder, action. And Wayne looks up at Jesus Christ and he says, Well, I guess he really is the son of God. No, Duke, cut, cut, cut, cut. I mean, you know, any John Wayne movie, you know, if it was the quiet man.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Well, that's a good stretch of the legs. You know, that's the way the man talks. So you won the talent show with Paul Whiteman? Yes, I became a regular on the show at 10 years old and I was involved with production numbers. And the sponsor of the show was Tootsie Roll. And I won on the show. I think I still have some Tootsie Rolls left from when I was 10 years old. A little hard, but, you know, they're still good.
Starting point is 00:14:50 And became a regular. And then at 11 years old, the show went off the air. and I was out of a job. Now, you got, when did you get on the Red Skelton show? Let's see, I must have been, I guess maybe 20 years old. And he was just marvelous, Gilbert. He was really super fine. And for some, I did, I think I did somewhere in the vicinity of 12 shows with Mr. Skelton.
Starting point is 00:15:21 And Cecil Barker, who was the producer, said, I understand that you do an impersonation of Red, one of his characters. I said, yeah, I do Clem Kiddlehopper. And Red was off with the David Rose Orchestra rehearsing something. And Cecil Barker said, can I hear something, you know? And I said, you know, I started going, you do do, do, do, do you get there, boy, and Red overheard me. And he started talking back to me as Clem Kiddlehopper.
Starting point is 00:15:53 and I was one of the, I was the only character, the only person on Red Show to mimic one of his characters. And the episode was Clem Kiddlehopper, and I played his cousin Zeke Kiddlehopper. And, you know, he kind of like took me under his wing because he lost his son Richard at 15 years old via leukemia. And for some reason or another, he just treated me like his son. He was wonderful, just wonderful to work with. Let's take it back a little bit. Bob, you were working with Rocco and the Saints at this point. Because Frankie brings you into the band.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Correct. I just filled in, you know, filled in for a drummer who was sick. You filled in. And you get a manager out of the experience. I get a manager out of the experience. And what happened then? Well, like I said, the man's name was Frankie Day. You said talk to my dad.
Starting point is 00:16:50 I know nothing about this. I don't know what you're talking about being my man. I'm 15, 16 years old, you know, so we shook hands. My father and Frankie Day shook hands. No contract? No contract. Wow. Just a handshake.
Starting point is 00:17:04 And Frankie took me around to a lot of, you know, the record companies, Columbia, RCA, Capitol, you know, and they were all turn downs. And, you know, I was kind of getting frustrated at the time. And then our last thing to do was. to go back home to Philadelphia and audition for a label called Cameo. And the owner of the label was a man by the name of Bernie Lowe. And when I was on the Paul Whiteman show, when I was 10 years old, he was the piano player for the Paul Whiteman Orchestra.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Okay? So I don't know if he remembered me from back then when I was 10, and I auditioned with the gentleman, and we sang a song called Buddies, and nothing ever happened. But I got a phone call from Frankie Day saying that Bernie would like to sign you, you know, meaning me to Cameo. Wow, you know, now I'm, yeah, you know, like I said that time, I was close to 17 years old. And I recorded three songs for Cameo, and they all bombed.
Starting point is 00:18:08 They did nothing whatsoever. And I started saying to myself, you know, we tried every other record company. Now we're here locally in Philadelphia. Three records did nothing. I was really happy playing drums, you know. So that's what I, you know. You would have been happy with that. Oh, I would have been extremely, extremely happy playing jumps.
Starting point is 00:18:27 I was pretty good. I was a pretty good player to the point where my teacher in Philadelphia, a man by name is Sam D'Amico said, I can't teach you anymore. He says, if you want to study anymore, you're going to have to go to New York City and study with like Sam Yolano or people like that. I said, no, man, I'm done studying, man. I want to play. I just want to play, man.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Dang, dang, you know. danga ding, you know, I just want to play, man. I'm done studying, you know. And lo and behold, after the three records, Bernie Lowe, Calman, and Dave Appel write a song called Kissin' Time, which became my first hit the summer of 1959. I was 17 years old at the time. And that was it.
Starting point is 00:19:13 And as they say, the rest is history. The rest is history. How many records approximately to Kiss and Time sell? A lot. It wasn't a million seller, but I guess it was somewhere in the vicinity of a half a mill. And I remember the first three records that all bombed, Bernie Lowe took them to Dick Clark at the time when he had American bandstand, which emanated 46th to Market Street in Philadelphia, West Philadelphia. And Dick turned, you know, the three records down. Basically, they were all dubs, acetates at the time, you know.
Starting point is 00:19:46 And then Bernie took kissing time, and Dick put the needle down. And he said, that's a hit. And then I appeared on the Dick Clark show. And of course, back then, it was like 3.30 to 5 o'clock in the afternoon across the country, you know, from New York to Los Angeles. And once the record was played on Dick Clark, bang, you know, became a, you know, big success for me. And that was my very first hit record. And so now was the beginning of your teen idol. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:15 And now when did you, uh, uh, uh, uh, you. You were going out with a girl at the time. Yes, I was, yeah. And you were told to keep hush-hush about that. Right, because, you know, you figured back then, you know, there was myself and Avalon and Fabian and Polanka. You had the Everly brothers, of course, Presley, you know. And my manager said, you know, you can't be seen with a girl
Starting point is 00:20:41 because there's a lot of fans out there who think they may have a shot, you know, at a Bobby Rydell. And my wife, she passed away in 2003 via breast cancer. We were married 36 years, and she was a wonderful woman. So any time we were out together, you know, she came to see me at a concert. She was always introduced as, oh, this is Bobby's cousin, Camille. Or this is Bobby's friend, you know. And it was never like. Amazing.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Yeah. You had to look available. Well, you know, I met Camille prior to me, you know, becoming successful. I was 15 years old at the time, and 10 years later, we got married. And it was a great 36 years. She was a great, great lady. Why does so many, we asked Frankie this, why does so many teen idols seem to come out of that part of the country? I always said, I always said there was a water straw for Nathan Dickinson.
Starting point is 00:21:42 And if you put your feet in it, you became a dancer. If you drank out of it, you became a singer. If you put your feet in your mouth and you drank and then you became a singer in the dance. Who the hell knows what? I don't know why so many people, but it is amazing. I mean, you and Frankie and James Darren and James Darren. I was on 11th Street. James Darren was on 10th Street.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Fabian lived a half a block away from me on 11th Street and Frankie was on 9th Street. We love the Fabian story. Frankie told us about the thing with the ambulance, I mean, how he was, discovered. Are you sure he wasn't talking about me? Was he, no, he's talking about the kid that was sitting on the stoop? Well, that was Frankie's first manager, and Fabian's first manager was a guy by name of Bob Marcucci. Sure.
Starting point is 00:22:29 And Bob just happened to be driving on 11th Street. Yeah, exactly, the movie The Idolmaker. And he happened to be driving on 11th Street, and there was Fabian sitting on a stoop. And he just decided the looks of the kid and said, that's a good-looking guy. That's a teen. Oh, my God. But Faith was like 15 years old. You know, he's tremendous looking.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Don't look too good now. But, and Marikuchi said, you know, I'd like to manage you and have you record a record. And Fabian said something like, can I make money, you know, doing this? And the guy said, absolutely. But boom. The ambulance, you know, I, in 2012, July. July 9th of 2012, I went through a double transplant. I had a new liver and a new kidney.
Starting point is 00:23:20 And then 2013, I had a double bypass, right? And Fabian would say, you know, during the show, the Golden Boys, which is Avalon, Fabian, and me. He said, I think Bobby's here. He said, I saw the ambulance parked outside. That's funny. The version, I think that if I have the story right, And Frankie told us was that Fabian was sitting on a stoop that somebody had had a Dick Fox is here and he's nodding. Yes, that's the true story.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Was it Fabian's uncle or dad or his father? Oh, his father. Right. Oh, okay. All right. And the kid was sitting on the stoop looking kind of concerned or... Before his dad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:02 And then Marcucci spotted him and said, that's a face. I could make a star out of this kid. You know, I didn't know about the ambulance. I'm awfully sorry about that. Yeah, and Fave's father was a Philadelphia cop. He was a cop for a lot of years. Okay, tell us about Jack Benny. Always fascinated.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Jack Benny. Jack Benny, I did his TV show. And, of course, like, I had lines, dialogue, you know, with Mr. Benny. And he kind of took a liking to me. And then I traveled around. I traveled around as an opening act for Jack Benny. And we did a lot of the theaters in California and Palm Springs. Phoenix, Arizona, you know.
Starting point is 00:24:46 I was very, very fortunate, Gilbert, to be able to work with people like Benny and George Burns and Red Skelton, Perry Como, Milton Burrell. And my first appearance in Las Vegas was with George Burns. I'm 19 years old, maybe 18. And we did a soft shoe together to some of these days. And, you know, George would do it like he would say, some of these days, days, days, you're going to miss it? and I did it like a Bobby Darren thing. Some of these days, you know, and then we go into a soft shoe, the old and the young,
Starting point is 00:25:20 with a derby, cane, and sand on the floor, on the stage floor, you know, just doing a soft shoe. Can you do some of George Burns telling a joke? I can't do Burns. I can't do Burns. Benny? Benny, I, well, no. And it's come full circle because we're in the George Burns. right now at the Friars Club. Ah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:25:47 We should point out. Yeah, yeah. Tell us about the Papadour in the teen idol days. Bobby, you had a famous one. Oh, I did. I had a lot of hair back then. Where to come from? Where to come from?
Starting point is 00:25:59 Was it? My head. I put a little oil. I put a bril cream and the thing it grew. I mean, was it part of the whole, was it part of the image making? Well, we all had hair back
Starting point is 00:26:15 and all of the guys, you know, from South Philadelphia, we had hair, you know, and I had a big, big pompadour, you know, and now it's gone. Now I carry one that's portable. It's nice. This is a portable hairpiece. I carry it around with me. Yeah, it is a good one. It is. I heard Frankie Avalon, because you had the pompadour and you were really skinny at the time. Yes, I was. He had a nickname for you. Yeah, I forget how, it's an Italian. It means pipe. cleaner. I was so thin. He said, he said, one time Bobby and I were running for the bus and Bobby stepped on a piece of chewing gum, never made the bus.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Never made the bus. You know, it's cute about a hairpiece. When I went through my double transplant, of course I'm in the hospital, I don't have my hair on. And, oh, six, seven, eight months, whatever it was later, we're doing some, a venue. use in Florida, Frankie, Avalon, and Fabian. And then we do a meet and greet, right? And there's an elderly lady who maybe was, I would say, 68 years old. She came in the back with some old pictures and some old 45s.
Starting point is 00:27:31 And she said, oh, Bobby, she said, I'm so happy. You know, God bless you. You came through this surgery, you know, and everything is wonderful. I said, thank you. That's very sweet. She says, may I ask you a question? I said, absolutely. She said, I didn't know they shaved your head for transplant surgery.
Starting point is 00:27:50 I swear to God. And I looked at her, I said, sweetheart. I said, this is a hairpiece. She looked at me and she went, no, it's not. I said, you want me to take it off? I'll take it off. All of the guys back in the neighborhood had, you know, great hair. Sure.
Starting point is 00:28:11 Great hair. Great hair. We will return to Gilbert Gottfried's Amazing Colossal Podcast after this. Tell us a little bit about touring with the Everly Brothers. You were just a kid. I only did one appearance with the Everly Brothers, and that was my first time in Sydney, Australia. Australia.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Yeah, yeah. And we worked the Sydney Stadium, and we did Sydney, we did Melbourne, we did Adelaide, we did Brisbane, we did Perth. And they were absolutely wonderful. How old were you? Let me see I was 19 18 years old
Starting point is 00:28:47 Wide-eyed kid from Philly Now you're in every city of Australia Yeah And I was there just this past February And that was my 23rd visit to that marvelous country Wow All right You know I have a really a good fan base here
Starting point is 00:29:00 But Australia I mean when you get into oldies They are Right on top of everything I mean they are tremendous They don't forget They don't forget anything And, you know, I'd be in the audience and there's signs.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Make signs. Bobby, you came back like a boomerang, mate, you know. Good on you, mate. I love you, you know. And it's, it's, I don't know what it is, but it's always been wonderful for me. Gilbert's big in Melbourne, aren't you, Gil? Yes. Are you really?
Starting point is 00:29:34 No, I've never been there. I've never been there. Melbourne, Florida? Barry's big. You must have been there. It's a retirement community. I'll join you soon. Now, tell us about Bye-bye Birdie. Bye-bye, Bertie.
Starting point is 00:29:55 I screen tested for George Sidney, who was the director, and I screen tested with Anne Margaret. And when you screen test, you know, they just roll the film, you know, okay, you know, you talk about yourself, you know, how you grew up, your family, this that, you know, what are your aspirations, this, that, the other thing. Read a few lines from the script, and Anna and I sang together. I think we did one boy, you know, one boy, one boy, one girl, one special, girl. And that was it, you know, Mr. Sidney said, thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:30:26 And I go home to Philadelphia. I get a call from Frankie Day, my manager, saying you landed the part of Hugo Peabody. I said, wow, man, you know, this is fantastic, you know. and went out to California for close to six months to film Bye Bye Birdie. And the part that I played, Hugo Peabody, in the Broadway show, he did nothing. He was more like a nerd. I mean, he did no singing, no dancing. I don't think he had a line in the Broadway show.
Starting point is 00:30:57 And for some reason, Mr. Sidney saw some kind of magic between Ann Margaret and myself. And each day that I would go to Columbia Studios, my script kept getting bigger and big. bigger and bigger and bigger to the point where there were a lot of lines. There was a lot of singing. There was a lot of dancing. I, you know, I haven't done nowhere near the kind of motion pictures that Frankie Avalon did. But, you know, if there was one picture that I had to be involved in, you know, by by Birdie, such as Greece, you know, they're classics. They're classic movies. And now that you mention Greece, because it was one of our questions.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Yeah. How did you? Don't know. You don't know. I know where you're going. Rydell Hyde. Sure. I honestly don't know. Just an homage to you and to the period.
Starting point is 00:31:40 I guess so. I mean, let's face it, it could have been Anka High, Presley High, Everly High, Fabian High. Right. But Rydell has that good name that sounds like a school. Yeah, it sounds like a school. Yeah. I guess. I guess Rydell High could.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Yeah. It does. But more importantly, did you slam Ann Margaret? Well, we had a. episode, we were both in London and we did the command performance for bye by birdie for the prince and and the princess at that particular time and we're both staying in the same hotel. So, and her mom and dad were with her and dad were with her and said to me, Bobby, would you mind walking me back up to my room? And we're both staying in the same hotel. I said, no, and I
Starting point is 00:32:34 said, it'd be my pleasure. So we went back up into her room and Columbia gave her a a suite that was knocked out, bearskin rugs on the floor, fireplace in London. Forget the name of the hotel, but it was gorgeous. And I was, you know, trying to have a little fun,
Starting point is 00:32:53 you know, and I think I kissed her on the cheek, and she said, well, I think it's time to leave. And I flew to cook. You know, and that was it. That was the end of, you know, our love affair. Oh, damn it.
Starting point is 00:33:08 what are you going to do blow your eyes yeah i mean you know it was one of those it was just one of those things boy that was really leading up to what to a great story oh well you i know wasn't it though hey you know what can you correct it and well then we laid on the bearskin rug
Starting point is 00:33:27 and she was totally naked can you do an imitation of me fucking and Mark. Don't take the bait, Bob. Please. Kim, this is good. It wasn't like that one. We were in their pictures together,
Starting point is 00:33:50 but oh, Kim, this is nice. What are your memories of making that movie? How long were you there? Too long. How long were you in Hollywood? Too long. It ran on. Musicals tend to...
Starting point is 00:34:04 Well, lots of living. It took two weeks to rehearse. Two weeks. Two weeks to shoot. Really? Two weeks to shoot. and I could remember like being in makeup at like I'd be at the studio at 5 o'clock and makeup by 6 a.m. in the morning and they never get to you. Because the way the lighting is, how the cameras are set up, so on and so forth.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Well, let's do this first, you know, while we got the time. You know, everything is set up. So there are some days they just sat around, you know, twiddling my thumps, you know, wishing that I was with Anne Margaret. Any memories of Paul Lind or Dick Van Dyke or any of those other? Luminaries that were the film? You know, this is my first time, you know, not my first time in Hollywood, but my very, very first motion picture. And to be involved with the people who were in Bye Bye Birdie, like you said, Paul Lynn, Dick Van Dyke, Maureen State, and I mean, it was a pleasure.
Starting point is 00:35:00 You know, I just, you know, every day, I mean, I look forward to going to this set every day. Like I said, some days they didn't use me, but it was just great just being around to see, you know, how movies were made and what, They do. But they were all just, you know, they were just wonderful people to work with. How about that dance? Did they call it the Bertie? I don't think it had a name. You know, there are lots of living number? Yeah, yeah. I mean, it must have taken weeks and weeks. It took two weeks to rehearse. A girl by the name of Anna White was our choreographer, and she had an assistant by the name of Tommy Panko.
Starting point is 00:35:32 And Anna White broke her foot. And she taught us all of the moves, by By By Birdie, the lots of living number on crutches. Wow. She did it on crutches, man, with a cast on her foot. Here's a little bye-bye birdie trivia Gilbert would like. I read this could be, this may be bullshit, but that Groucho's daughter, Melinda, was one of the uncredited teenagers. I believe she was.
Starting point is 00:35:58 I think Melinda was, you know, one of the girls screaming to Conrad Birdie. Yeah. I believe she was. As was Melody Patterson from F-Troop. Wrangler Jane. If IMDB is to be believed. Do you do a Groucho imitation? No, I don't do.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Oh. Pauline? I don't do Pauline. Gilbert does a lovely Paulin. Yeah. Let me hear you do Paulin. Okay. Well, according to a story, I heard, I think Frank found it, that at the end of the filming of Bye Bye Birdie,
Starting point is 00:36:33 Paulin screamed out, I'm the only one in this cast. Who did monafuck and Margaret? There you go. That's great. That's a great Paul Lynn. Told you. I warned you. That's great.
Starting point is 00:36:54 And after Bye Bye Birdie, you could have stayed in Hollywood like Frankie, and some of the others. But you chose not to. No, I'm an East Coast guy, and I, you know, I love the East Coast. I love New York. I love Philadelphia. I love Boston. I love Jersey, you know. And I could never, I could never live out in California.
Starting point is 00:37:14 And Frankie would say to me, Bobby, Avalon, you know, Bobby, come on. Why don't you move out to California? We could play golf every day and this and that. And I said to Frank, I said, you know what, Frank? By the time I move out to California, I said, Montana's going to be oceanfront property. I said, because you people are nuts out here with the fires and the earthquakes and the mudslides. He said, yeah, Bob, what about back home, you know, when it gets cold? I said, you know what, Frank, I can always turn up the heat.
Starting point is 00:37:42 You know, it's no problem. You know, I could be nice and cozy and warm. I wasn't a California guy. And you were a regular on the Milton Barled show. It didn't last too long. I think the show was only on the air for about six months. And I think the director was Bill Dana. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Wow, wow. Can you imitate Tio? Wait a minute. My name, Hasei Mene. Good. Now, this is, oh, God. Yeah, he was the director. and, you know, Milton Burrell happened to be a very, very fine, you know, songwriter.
Starting point is 00:38:17 He did a lot of great tunes. And he wrote a song called You Gotta Enjoy Joy. And that was the theme song of the Milton Burrell show. And at that time, I was on Capitol. And I recorded with all of the studio cats, you know, in L.A. And being a drummer on the date was Louis Belson, you know, playing on the tune that I had to record for Capital. You got to enjoy joy. And the chart was a great chart.
Starting point is 00:38:45 It was a Bob Florence arrangement who was a marvelous, marvelous arranger. And the chart was cooking. You know, everything was swinging. And I went over to Louis Belson. And I said, Louis, when we get into the top verse, you got to enjoy joy. I said, can you just play it on a closed high hat? He said, is that what you want, Bob? He said, I'll play it.
Starting point is 00:39:09 And then I turned around. I looked at myself. I'm saying, I'm telling Louis Belson, how to play on my record, you know, which is kind of stupid, you know, but he was a super dynamite guy. And he did. He played it on a closed high hat. And then when the thing opened up where, you know, the reeds and the brass and everybody comes in, blah, boom, pat, pat. You know, he starts swinging.
Starting point is 00:39:28 But, and I traveled around with Milton, promoting the show. And I think we follow the show, which I believe Jimmy Darren was on called Time Time. Oh, sure. We talked about that show. Oh, I remember that show. Oh, I remember that show. I think we were both on ABC, and Time Tunnel was first,
Starting point is 00:39:47 and the Milton Burl Show followed after Time Tunnel. I remember because the Green Hornet used to be on before Time Tunnel. And then the Burl Show. Now, something very important. Yes, sir. Did you ever see Milton Burles penis? I've heard a hell of a lot of brother. Dick's Fox is raising his hand.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Dick's waving his hand from across the room. You've seen. Your manager nodded his head. He's seen Milton Burl's penis. What was the line that red buttons? Was it red buttons who said, you know, that Milton had passed away, but they're still keeping his penis on life support? That's funny.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Yeah, something like that figure. Hey, do you want to come over here and tell how you start his penis, please? Oh, come on. Be a regular guy. Poor Dick Fox. Yo, dick. Come on. What about Miltie's reputation as a joke thief?
Starting point is 00:40:48 Do you know anything about that? Oh, well, you've heard that forever. Sure, you know. Sure. Nothing ever, nothing like that ever, never witnessed it. No, and never witnessed it. But that's the saying that, you know, he stole from everybody, you know. Two guests on our show at least have seen Milton Pearl's penis.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Or claim to have. Yes, yeah, yeah. Well, Dick Fox. Oh, that makes three. That's right. Okay, so there was also Jeff Ross and Almsworth. Why Bell both claim that Milton Burrow would put his penis on a serving tray and walk around with it. That's a joke.
Starting point is 00:41:23 No, there's another story. Okay. There used to be a comedian in South Philadelphia by the name of Guy Marks. Oh, yes, yes. Sure. F. Drew. Sure. M. Marks.
Starting point is 00:41:33 He was originally on the Joey Bishop show. Yeah. And he was getting more laughs than Joey, and Joey got the hell rid of him, you know, and went with Martin. I'm the comedian. Dick Martin? Not, was it, oh, geez. Okay, well, anyway, Guy Marks was known to be very well endowed. This is Goldbott.
Starting point is 00:41:59 True story. And the rat pack, meaning Sinatra, Sammy Davis, Joey Bishop, Dean Martin, they dressed guy up as a waiter at this big function in California. and they got Guy's unit and they put it on a tray and and Guy was going around
Starting point is 00:42:24 with the tray and his unit and they and a Hollywood makeup artist made his unit to look like salmon and on one side on one side
Starting point is 00:42:38 there's like you know clams and shrimp and oysters you know, and everybody's kind of pushing his unit away to get for the clams and the oysters. It's a true story. Incredible. True story. Guy Marks.
Starting point is 00:42:52 So on this show, I discovered Guy Marks had a big dig. Oh. I mean, I knew Milton Burl and Forrest Tucker. I was one of the famous ones. Guy Marks, did he have an American Indian bit? Wasn't that his big bit? Oh, yeah. He did it on D. Martin Rose.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Indian sergeant or something like that? Yeah. He was great as far as impressions. Funny guy. He did Gary Cooper, Bogart, and Robert Bicham. And he was wonderful. And he was wonderful. And he would do this Indian, you know, and the three guys are there.
Starting point is 00:43:28 And he's doing, and no, no, no, no ta. And Gary Cooper says, what did he say? And Bogart says, I think he said there's no towels in the men's room. You remember that bit, don't you? Guy Marks? Now, did Guy Marks used to imitate a housefly? He would do that.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Yes. He would do a housefly. He would do a horse falling down on the trolley tracks trying to get up. He did a piece of driftwood. He was really something. He was really something, guy. I had the good fortune to work with him at a local club in Philly called Palumbo's, owned by a man by the name of Frank Palumbo.
Starting point is 00:44:19 He was a funny man. Did he ever show you his speech? No, I never saw it. I wouldn't want to look on it. You didn't go for the salmon. No, I don't want that salmon. I don't want to look on it. I don't want to touch it.
Starting point is 00:44:32 I don't want to, you know. Since you brought up the chairman of the board, we have to ask you about meeting Frank for the first time. Yeah, okay. The first time I met Sanasha was at the Copa. I'm 19 years old and who's working the COPA, but Joey Lewis. And Carmine, one of the waiters. Now, my dad and my manager were already sitting downstairs in the COPA. I was doing German TV at the time I arrived late.
Starting point is 00:44:54 So Carmine says, and my manager's name is Frank, as I said, Frankie Day, and my dad. And Carmine says, Bob. He says, you want to say, well, Frank? I said, that's okay, Carmine. I said, no problem. I said, I'll just go down and join my dad in Frank. He says, Bob, Frank. And my mouth dropped.
Starting point is 00:45:11 I said, Frank, he said, yeah, he came in to see Joey Lewis. You want to sit with him? I said, oh, no. I'm 19 years old, you know. So now at the end of the show, you know, Joey, of course, introduces him. And Frank, get up and sing, Frank, get up and sing. He says, I can't. I don't have my police card with me.
Starting point is 00:45:29 Now, if you remember back, you know, in the 60s, to work New York City, you had to be fingerprinted and have a police card to work cabaret, you know. So it was a joke. Ha, ha, ha, ha. And there he goes. So now I said that's it. You know, I'll never get the opportunity to meet Mr. Sinatra again. Go upstairs to the lounge and say good night to Jules Padel, who was like the front, you know.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Yeah, we wanted to ask you about Jules Padel. Yeah, he was a trip. Yeah, he was an absolute trip. And he was about four foot, no neck. And he talked like this, almost like a Gilberg. Huh? Julius Paddle is a legend. Oh, yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:46:14 I mean, when you heard, he used to sit in the back of the room and he knocked his ring on the table, and, like, there'd be 15 captains, 40 waiters, you know, yes, Mr. Bode. Yes, Mr. Paudela. So I go upstairs to say, good night to Paudel. Through the kitchen doors comes Mr. Sinatra. I said, Uncle Julie, I said, all I want to do is shake his hand. You want him to me, Frank? I said, I'd love to.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Now, he's sitting at the table with Sammy Kahn, Jimmy Van Nuys, and Richard Conti, and Joe DiMaggio, before all of the Marilyn Monroe, you know, bullshit. And Frank is sitting, and we're walking, coming to, with Joel Spadell, and Mr. Podell, hits Frank on his shoulder. I mean, he really hits him on his shoulder. I went, Jesus. Oh, my God. He says, Frank, I want you to meet the kid.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Sinatra's stuff. up, you know, with them blue eyes, he put out his right hand, he said, how you doing, Robert? Call me Robert. I said, fine, Mr. Sinatra, how are you? He says, I'm just wonderful. He said, would you care to join us? I said, it would be my pleasure, Mr. Sanatra. So I'm sitting down.
Starting point is 00:47:25 I'm 19 years old, Sammy Conjee, Benu, he was at Richard Conti, Frank Sinatra, Joe DiMaggio. He says, Robert, what do you drink? I said, Coke? I figure if I said, Scotch and Water, he smacked me in the face, you know. But I've got a wonderful picture with him. We were up in the lounge, and he's got his left arm around me, and under his right arm, he has my picture, excuse me, my album of Rydell at the Copa. And it just says, too, Bobby, best always, your friend, Frank Sinatra. And I, you know, I was in his company quite a few times, and he was always absolutely marvelous.
Starting point is 00:48:00 I remember one time there was a guy here in New York by name of Louis D. He owned a restaurant called Separate Tables. He was Louis D. He was Louis Dome. He was a lot of Louis D. We see you know. And we were at the Sands Hotel in Las Vegas, and the old man was married to Mia Farrot at the time. So it's me of Pharaoh, Joey Lewis, myself, and Mr. Sinatra. And Mr. S says, what are you up to, Robert?
Starting point is 00:48:28 I said, well, Mr. S. I said, I'm up for a motion picture, Walt Disney. And he looked at me, he said, you'll never get it. I said, excuse me, Mr. Sinatra? He said, Bobby, Italian, aren't you? I said, yeah, you know that, Mr. S. He says, you'll never get it. I never did, and I never asked why. Wow.
Starting point is 00:48:47 You know, that was it. What was the picture? Can you share? I haven't a clue. I was up for a motion picture with Disney. Don't know. Interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:57 So he hates. I guess the only one Walt Disney liked Italian was a net flukello. Yeah. Yeah. So this means Walt Disney hated both Italians and Jews. Well, evidently, that's. That's what I hear that's going around. That cock guys.
Starting point is 00:49:17 He was Mickey Mouse. What are you going to do? Were you the youngest performer at the Copeland? I was the youngest performer at 19. I was 19. I was the youngest. Who are you doing now? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Maybe that's Mel Brooks, the 2013-year-old. I don't know. Any other stories about the Copa? I mean, you were there when, in a... It's heyday. Well, like I said, Mr. Podell, I mean, we did tremendous business for him, you know, and it was it was mob run at that time. I would imagine. I would say the noses had something to do with it.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Now, you said right after you met Sinatra the first time, you called your mother. Yes, I did. I said, this is now we left the copa, I don't know, 2.30 in the morning. By the time I get to the hotel here in New York City, it was about three o'clock in the morning, and I called my mother. And she answered the phone. She said, what, you know, three o'clock in the morning. Yeah. I said, Mom, I just met God.
Starting point is 00:50:27 She went what? Huh? Oh, Jesus. We will return to Gilbert Gottfried's amazing colossal podcast, but first a word from our sponsor. How can working at your local Tims take you further? Sure, you can level up your teamwork skills. You also get a chance to receive a Tim Hortons Scholarship Award. Ready for what's next?
Starting point is 00:50:54 Apply today at careers.timhorans.ca. And speaking of your mom, it was your mom, do I have this right, who persuaded you to record Volari? We had, she had said something about that. I was coming off a record called Swing in School, which, which was part of Dick Clark's first motion picture entitled Because They're Young. And we went into RCA recording studios here in New York City and recorded a lot of tunes. And it was basically for an album. But on the album, supposedly was Volare, Sway, and Old Black Magic.
Starting point is 00:51:34 And we needed a tune. And my mother had said, why don't you, you know, why don't you release Volati? I said, I have no say over it. It's up to Bernie Low, Calman, and Dave Apple, the powers that be at the Camille Parkway. And we didn't have the girls on it at the time. I had three black girls who were like gospel singers who read music, and they became the sound behind me. Oh, Bobby, oh, everything.
Starting point is 00:51:57 You're on. Yeah, yeah. Whoa, whoa. And we went back in. We got the master from RCA, you know, and added the girls. Oh, laity. Oh, whoa. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:52:08 da da la la la da da da you know and boom it became my second million seller and dino had already recorded it and of course dominico maduno right who was the original writer and original artist who recorded it first and when you were at the peak you and avalon and fabian and all those guys were at the peaks of your career that's when the Beatles landed absolutely yeah matter of fact that's the a very interesting story. Anne and I were out in London doing command performance for the royalty.
Starting point is 00:52:46 And while there, I recorded which became my third million-suller a song called Forget Him, recorded in London, England with a gentleman who wrote it by the name of Tony Hatch. He was the songwriter. And then I was doing three weeks of touring
Starting point is 00:53:01 with a girl by the name of Helen Shapiro, who was wonderful. UK, British singer, you know, female, she was absolutely fantastic. And we're traveling on the bus, you know, going from city to city throughout the UK. And she says, there was a car in front of us. We're traveling on a bus, and there's a car in front of the bus. And she says, they're the Beatles.
Starting point is 00:53:23 Well, this is 1963, early 63. I started looking around the bus for cockroaches. You know, I didn't know what the hell she was talking about. There's the Beatles. I'm looking for bugs. The bus stopped, the car stopped, the bus store, opens and the four of them come on. The original guys.
Starting point is 00:53:41 Now, they know me. I don't know who the hell they are, you know. And I met the four guys. And to this day, I could kick myself in the ass, you know, for not having, that would have been a phenomenal, you know, picture. Oh, sure. Just a great picture. And then I go home, six months later, bam, the Ed Sullivan show, you know.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Ladies, you know, here they are. And boom, there's the four guys, the Beatles. and I went, Jesus, I said, I met those guys. Well, didn't swing in school? One of your records, Inspire, Lennon and McCartney? That's the story. Paul McCartney, yes. As a matter of fact, he did a documentary, I believe, McCartney, and he mentions me in the documentary.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Now, I always thought, for some reason it was a song called We Got Love, because Paul McCartney said, we got yeah, yeah, from Bobby Rydell. Right. But something happened. He mentions forget him, you know, in the book or in the bio, whatever, you know. The story I heard was that she loves you was inspired indirectly by Swing in School. That they wanted to do a song like that. Swing in School.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Yeah, that's what I hear. I could be wrong. We'll research it. Yeah, yeah. But wasn't that like a point where, like, now all of you who were at the high, Now it was like, oh, forget of it. Yeah. Absolutely, yeah, because all of the disc jockeys in the United States started playing, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:11 what was called the British invasion, you know, and it was all British and British and British and British and British and that was kind of killed, you know, the American recording industry at that particular time. And then as time went by, I guess the disc jockey started thinking to themselves, hey, you know, it's enough of this. Let's start playing, you know, our own product. And then it started, you know, rebuilding again. But, yeah, the British invasion heard a lot of us guys. Yeah, absolutely. and as did the closing of clubs later during the disco era and yeah yeah you know and nightclubs you know what what what what a marvelous era that was you know to be able to
Starting point is 00:55:49 work places like the copa and you know the coconut grove you know with the with big bands you know smoke-filled rooms you know people drinking their cocktails you know it's marvelous so you were you were in the middle of that and then that era just kind of died it died And it's dead as of today as well. I mean, there are no more, there's no more cabaret. Was there like a panic among? You know what, Gilbert, I would venture to say that, you know, everybody at one time in his career, you know, has the ups and downs, the peaks, the highs, the lows, the lows, the valleys, so on and so forth. But I kept plugging at it, you know, I kept working, working.
Starting point is 00:56:28 I wasn't making, you know, the greatest money at the time, but I wanted to keep working, you know, keep working, keep working, keep working, keep my career. craft, you know, in tune. And as luck would have it, a good thing that happened was back in 1985. I had a manager at that time by the name of Stan Seidenberg. God rest his soul, I don't know if he's dead or not, but I don't really care, tell you the truth. And he called me, said, this guy in New York, Dick Fox, he wants to put three Italian guys together and do like a summer concert, would be you, Avalon and Fabian. And I said, wow, man. I said, that sounds tremendous.
Starting point is 00:57:10 You know, that sounds absolutely great. And we did. And this was back in 1985. And that was all because of my manager now, Mr. Fox, Dick Fox. I call him Mr. for a reason I don't have a goddamn question. Because he's in the room. Yeah, because he's in the room. I do you mind leaving the room.
Starting point is 00:57:30 But, and really, I think, for the three of us, it was kind of a resurgence. You know, we started it back. 1985 and Frankie and I looked at one another. We said, how long is this going to last? A year, two, tops. It's over. It's 2015. We're still doing it.
Starting point is 00:57:47 It's bigger today than it was back in 1985. 30 years. And it's great. I mean, we have fun. Frankie says, you know, here we are, three guys on stage hanging out. And we used to hang out on a corner together, you know, in South Philadelphia. But here's the three of us hanging out on stage. It was like old times, you know, like being.
Starting point is 00:58:06 in South Philadelphia again. And you're still doing it. You're still doing it. You're still book solid. Yes, we are. I love it. Yeah. And Frankie Avalon said something that he said he has never seen a father and son anywhere near as close
Starting point is 00:58:25 as you are with your father. Yeah. My mother, well, she was an evil person. A lot of people don't know this, but a matter of fact, I'm coming out with a book, and hopefully it'll be out sometime. I'm just going to ask you, if you read the book, you should.
Starting point is 00:58:44 I'll tell you so many people, you know, because of the stories that we're kind of like talking about, Bobby, you should put, you know, why don't you write a book and tell all these stories, Sinatra and Benny and George Burns and Red Skelton, yada, yada, yada, so and so forth. And nobody really knew the true Jenny Ritterrelli. But my father, when he passed away, a lot of part of me just left. you know, because like I said earlier, if it wasn't for him, I wouldn't be around today. We should also point out to our listeners that your dad quit his job. He'd been there 20-some-odd years, and he quit his job.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Well, actually, actually, I took him out of work. You took him out of work. I said, Dad, that's it. You're not going to the machine shop anymore. You're not going to lose any more fingers. And how did you employ him? He just hang around. Did he become your road manager?
Starting point is 00:59:35 Well, not even. I had a guy at the time. There was a guy. He just wanted that around. He was a Guido. Guido to guide. No, he would come to me, Japan, Hong Kong, Australia. It's great.
Starting point is 00:59:52 Long way from the machine shop. I think the first time I ever got laid beside my mother, was in Australia somewhere. He was so happy. What? How did he mean this? Huh? There was a guy there. There was a guy.
Starting point is 01:00:16 His name was Norman Erskine. And he said, come on, Pop. We're going to get your lady here. And he took my father into whatever motel. We were staying in. The Kings Cross. And there was a lady there. And my father said, hey, there's ladies here.
Starting point is 01:00:33 You know. Simple as that. Simple as that. Oh, God. I just want to ask you real quick, Bob, about Joey Bishop. I saw a clip of you guys doing a stick on YouTube. That was great. Oh, that was the Joey Bishop show.
Starting point is 01:00:54 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well, Joey was a Southwley guy, too. Right. He lived around Fifthham Porter. I was in love of the Moymensing, not that, I mean, walking distance, you know, about, you know, five, six blocks, something like that. And I worked, you know, with Joey. and open for him.
Starting point is 01:01:11 Of course, Joey was a big star at the time, and Joey liked me. And matter of fact, Joey hosted the Tonight Show. I was filling in for Johnny Carson. Don't remember who the director or the producer was, but Joey wanted me on the show. And the guy says, no, he says, you can't have Bobby Rydell. And Joey said, hey, look, he's a self-fully guy. I want him on the show.
Starting point is 01:01:36 The reason being that I was so close, with Red Skelton that my manager at the time, Frankie Day, didn't want anything to kind of interfere with my appearance on the Red Skelton show and the Tonight Show. Don't remember who it was, you know, and they just didn't want me, you know, because of the affiliation and the love and the respect
Starting point is 01:02:06 that I had for Mr. Skelton. And Joey was the one to say, well, if he's not on, I'm not doing it. And I was on The Tonight Show with Joey. You know, and he was great. He was a great guy. It's a strange career, isn't it? You started out. You were just content to be a drummer, and suddenly,
Starting point is 01:02:22 and you wind up being practically a comic because you wind up doing comedy. Oh, I love doing comedy. I absolutely love doing comedy. There's a great bit that Frankie and I do when Just Frank and I worked together, and it was a bit that was made for Martin and Martin. Martin Lewis. No, no. Steve Rossi.
Starting point is 01:02:43 Oh, Alan and Rossi. Alan and Rossi. And it's a punch drunk fighter routine. Frankie plays, you know, the straight guy, and I'm the punch drunk fighter, right? And the bit goes on and on. It's a pretty funny bit. But Frankie says to me, he says, you know, everybody had a nickname, you know, back then, like boom, boom, Mancini, Tommy hitman Hurons.
Starting point is 01:03:07 and he said, did you ever have a nickname? And I'll talk like this, right? You know, I'm pushing. I said, right, right, Frank. I said, my nickname was quits. He said, quits? He said, how the hell do you ever get the name quits? I said, well, when I was first born, my mother and my father,
Starting point is 01:03:28 they took one look at me, and they said, let's call it quits. But the bit goes on, it's about, oh, I would say a good, you know, an eight-minute piece of material. and then he says to me, I understand that you, at one time, you wanted to be a singer, and I say yes, you know, and I do,
Starting point is 01:03:49 because of you as a punch-drunk fighter. Because you, you're so, p, so, hear my heart. So if somebody comes to see you and Fabian and Frankie,
Starting point is 01:04:01 they're going to get comedy as well as music. There's some bits in the act? We used to do a lot of bits. There's some things that happen like spontaneously. I see. Stuff will happen. We don't necessarily do a lot of comedy. There's some comedy lines in the show. Yes, of course. I remember one time, oh, who's the guy, the exercise guy? Richard. Richard Simmons. Okay. So now Frankie says to me, I understand that you've got an email, right? And it's just Frank and me, you know, working the Orleans in Vegas. And he says, can you read me the email? And I read to him, I say, Dear Bobby, I think you're absolutely adorable.
Starting point is 01:04:44 You're cute. You're one fine singer. And I would really love to spend some quality time with you and jump all over your bones. Frankie says, wait a minute. Wait a minute. He says, there's, you know, this is a friend, you know, an older audience. We can't talk like that. But wait a minute.
Starting point is 01:05:03 He says, I guess I know who sent you that telegram. I say, guess. He says, Anne Margaret. I said no, Richard Simmons. No, no, no, excuse me. I said, he said, Anne Margaret, I said, no, Richard Nixon. I don't know what the hell happened. Richard Nixon.
Starting point is 01:05:21 You were supposed to say Richard Simmons. I was supposed to say Richard Simmons. And Frank and I just look at one another. The band is falling down altogether. And Frank and I just lose it. But, I mean, the type of things that happened, you know, there are things that happened that you just can't write it down, you know. Did you ever see Franks and not just penis?
Starting point is 01:05:40 No, I didn't see. Now, we're going to... Norrie Milton Burrell or Guy Marks. Oh, yes. Did you ever meet Elvis? Or Forrest Tucker. How about the Beatles? The Beatles.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Wait a minute. Dick Fox is raising his hand. He's saying he's seen. Who? He's a Reck Sinatra's penis. And he don't like Sinatra. He's a doo-op guy. Did you ever meet Elvis and your travels, Bob?
Starting point is 01:06:04 Never met him? Never met him. Never met him. No, no, never met him. We're in a movie about the king, but never met him. Never, never met him. Yeah, that's right. Conrad Bertie was Elvis Presley. So in your book, will you have dirt on the rat pack?
Starting point is 01:06:17 Not dirt so much on the rack path. There are certain stories about, you know, a couple of people that I knew. And there's one particular story that I won't want, I will not relate right now. Damn it. Yeah. Is that the one where you fucked in, Margaret? I didn't say that. You said it.
Starting point is 01:06:34 I said, I wish I did. Now, to wrap up this show, Joe, you repeat everything I say. Ah, hi, this is Gilbert Gottfried. Hi, this is Gilbert Gottfried. And this has been Gilbert Gottfried's amazing colossal podcast. And this has been Gilbert Gottfried's amazing iPod colossal cast with people that come and talk to me. With my co-host.
Starting point is 01:07:09 With that. Santo Padre. Santo Padre, my co-host. Oh, God. Who's Italian? That's right. And he's making us meatballs and spaghetti. We should forget it, buddy.
Starting point is 01:07:24 And we've been talking to the legendary singer Bobby Rydell. Thank you very. No, you're supposed to. Oh, oh. Who was it again? And the legendary we've been talking to, Bobby, right now. Thanks, Bob. It was a treat.
Starting point is 01:07:48 This is my pleasure. Thank you, Frank. Thank you, Gilbert. It was an absolute, genuinely great time. Next time, we'll have you back to sing. Oh, that'll be good. That'll be fine. Could you take us out with a little bit of something?
Starting point is 01:07:59 A couple of bars? Can we oppose on you? A couple of bars? I'm going to one right now. I can't do that anymore. Volare, whoa, oh, Kantari. Oh, let's fly way up to the cloud.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Now, if you want to hear any more, you got to come and pay the money. Fantastic. Bobby Wright. Yes, Mr. Fox. Thank you, buddy. Thank you. Hey, y'all. It's Kelly Clarkson with Wayfar.
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