Gilbert Gottfried's Amazing Colossal Podcast - Mini #186: The Worst Frankenstein Movies Ever Made

Episode Date: October 18, 2018

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Starting point is 00:01:34 Here we go once. One, two, three, four. Give me that back, colossal obsessions. Everybody wants to go to heaven, but nobody wants to die. Oh, yeah! Hey, Timmy. This is I'm Gilbert Gottfried. I'm here with Frank Sandopadre, and this is Gilbert and Frank's amazing, colossal obsession with crepe paper last week.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Oh, my God. You really hit amazing and colossal, I'd say. He's got such energy. Suddenly, he's like shot out of a Roman candle. When he turns to me to describe what's missing,
Starting point is 00:02:23 you can see it just takes the whole thing up. He's like Sandy Duncan. He's a ball of change. He's a ball of energy. The star-spangled girl. Hi, Gilly. Yes.
Starting point is 00:02:34 How are you? Oh, you know. Yeah. You're looking well. Yes. Yes. Paul Raybone is here. We established that.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Bling, bling, bling, bling. What are you this week? Crepe paperless? Crepe paperless. Sorry, I was looking down at my notes. Forgive me. We're going to do something different. Something a little bit out of the ordinary.
Starting point is 00:02:56 We're going to do a producer of the month, which we haven't done in a long time. Oh, okay. And I don't know whether I'm going to try to stump you with these or just talk to you about them. Yes. Because this is a bit of a blind spot for me. Okay. And I don't know whether I'm going to try to stump you with these or just talk to you about them. Yes. Because this is a bit of a blind spot for me, but I know that this is your sweet spot. Oh.
Starting point is 00:03:12 This being the month of October, one of our fans by the name of Sean Lou, Sean Lou, L-O-U, said, Lou, Lou. You say you saw the candle move. You saw the candle move. What was that great bit where he had to,
Starting point is 00:03:31 I must have gone back to vaudeville, where they try to prove to Sidney Fields that a loaf of bread is the mother of an airplane. Do you remember this bit? Am I crazy? Do you remember this? And the punchline ends up being that necessity is the mother of invention. That a loaf of bread is a necessity and the airplane is an invention.
Starting point is 00:03:51 And he draws it on the wall of Fields' boarding house so that they can get out of their rent. He bets him. These are the kind of conversations I'd have with Drew Friedman at one in the morning. He bets Mr. Fields that if he can prove that a loaf of bread is the mother to an airplane, he doesn't have to pay his rent that month. This is the shit that pops into my head when you talk about Lou Costello. Anyway,
Starting point is 00:04:13 it's the month of October, and so this gentleman suggested something that's right up Gilbert's alley, and that is the worst Frankenstein movies ever made. How about that? Pretty good. Paul's looking at me.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Now, Paul, you were not brought in on this earlier. We've never met before. Is that correct? That's correct. I'm doing it. Well, there was... Well, I'll start. I'm doing Kreskin. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:04:41 You got one off the top of your head? There was Frankenstein's Daughter. That's on my list. Which had, what's his name, the silent screen, Harold Lloyd Jr. That's right. That's right. Very good. Special appearance by Harold Lloyd Jr.
Starting point is 00:05:01 How did you come up with that? And surprisingly, he didn't follow it up with a big movie career. No. No. No. Harold Lloyd Jr. How did you come up with that? And surprisingly, he didn't follow it up with a big movie career. No. No. No, Harold Lloyd Jr. I want to see, I printed some of these out.
Starting point is 00:05:11 I want to see how many of these you actually know. And I heard with Frankenstein's daughter when the director didn't know what the makeup people were going to do because he just,
Starting point is 00:05:23 you know, they got them as cheap as possible and when he saw how bad it was, he started crying. Is that true? Yeah. Where did you see this? Yeah, because it looks like a guy, first of all. It doesn't look like a girl.
Starting point is 00:05:38 It was just scary. Okay, but was it worse than Jesse James meets Frankenstein's daughter? Now, was that with John Carradine? No, I don't think he's in that one. John Carradine met Dracula. He's Billy the Kid meets Dracula. Billy the Kid meets Dracula.
Starting point is 00:05:52 That's right. That's a whole other ball of wax. Paul, do me a favor. Look up who was in Jesse James meets Frankenstein's daughter, made in 1966 by William One-Shot Bodine. Oh, excellent. I think he's the guy that directed Bela Lugosi meets a
Starting point is 00:06:07 Brooklyn Gorilla, right? Same guy. That's right. Yeah, same guy. Sammy Petrillo and Duke Mitchell. Carradine was in some awful thing from 1981 called Frankenstein Island. I saw that.
Starting point is 00:06:23 You've seen that one too. I saw that. You've seen that one too. I saw that. Of course. And there's like zombies walking around. Yes, it was a remake of something called Teenage Zombies. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Yeah, that was... That was John Carradine paying the rent. A major league mess. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just want to see if you know some of these titles because some of these things are truly awful. I remember in Frankenstein's Island, they have the mad doctor and he's wearing an eye patch. Of course.
Starting point is 00:06:52 And there are zombies walking around growling and the hero says to him, how did you lose your eye? And you go, I think that's pretty obvious. There are zombies here. By the way, what was the plot? Because I have not seen Jesse James meets Frankenstein's daughter, although I want to. The Frankenstein monster does show up in Frankenstein Island.
Starting point is 00:07:20 He does. It looks like a Halloween. I understand the plot of this was that Jesse James is on the run and he hides out in Frankenstein's castle. Was that the premise? Well, that was the, it's based on a true story. Oh, really? Oh, I see.
Starting point is 00:07:35 I see, I see. I didn't realize that. Do you know, do any of these titles mean anything to you? And Paul, you can chime in on any of these or just look any of them up. Frankenstein Conquers the World. That was Japanese. Yes, yes. I remember, in fact, I think they used a picture from Frankenstein Conquers the World on one of the covers of Famous Monsters.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Incredible. I got a little bit on Jesse James here. Hit me. I haven't stumped him yet, by the way. He knows every one of these. So Jesse James meets Frankenstein's daughter. 1966. The IMDB rating is 2.9 out of 10.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Right. It makes you want to watch it all the more. Jesse James, of course, was played by John Lupton. Of course he was. And Dr. Maria Frankenstein was played by Narda Onyx. Sounds like some kind of mineral. Uh-huh. And Cal Boulder played Hank Tracy on Igor.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Based on a true story, as Gilbert said. Like out of Africa. There's nobody here who seems remotely recognizable. Oh, my God. But, you know, he knew Frankenstein Island. He knew Frankenstein Conquers the World was Japanese. I don't even have the plot of that one. Do I have the plot of that one?
Starting point is 00:08:50 I can still see the picture in my mind from Frankenstein Conquers the World. Okay, I'm going to try some of these other ones out on you. This Japanese guy. Yeah, and by the way, we'll invite our listeners. If there's one we miss, we'll invite our listeners to write in or tweet us and tell us or post on Listener Society
Starting point is 00:09:10 and tell us what you think the worst Frankenstein movie ever made was. How about this? Does this mean anything to you? I'm going to go in reverse order here. Nope.
Starting point is 00:09:20 I'll go in chronological order. Frankenstein meets the space monster? Does that mean anything to you? From 1965? Oh, yes! Wait! Oh, yeah!
Starting point is 00:09:31 Guess who starred in it? James Caron. Look at this guy. James Caron was in that. He was the star. James Caron was the star. He was a sign. I spoke to James Caron today.
Starting point is 00:09:43 You did? How's he doing? He called me. He's doing good. It was great talking. Good. Yes. He never signed a release form.
Starting point is 00:09:51 James Caron was like the official or the scientist. Yeah. You got it. He's an astronaut. He goes into space. And talk about like the worst special effects. I'll give you the plot. All the women on the planet Mars have died in an atomic war except for Martian princess Marcosan.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Marcosan and her right-hand man, Dr. Nader, decide they will travel to Earth and steal all the women on the planet in order to continue the Martian race. And they shoot down a space capsule manned by the android astronaut Colonel Frank Saunders, causing it to crash in Puerto Rico. And that's... James Caron said they did film this in Puerto Rico. Correct. Yeah. Frank's electronic brain
Starting point is 00:10:37 and the left half of his face are damaged after encountering a ray gun. Frank, now the Frankenstein of the title, described by his creator as an astro robot without a control system. So technically, this is not the Frankenstein monster. Okay. I remember there's a scene there where it's supposed to be there's a press conference with the astronaut and he breaks down and stops moving. So they couldn't even get the actor to just sit still.
Starting point is 00:11:08 So they obviously freeze the film. They just stop the film. It's so obvious. Stop the film. No python. And my favorite thing is to avoid any suspicion that something crazy is going on, that the astronaut's not moving. They make an announcement, we'll be serving drinks in the other room. And everyone goes, drinks? Let's go.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Sounds like Ed Woodbad. Yes. I saw that one one Of course you did In the United States It was released on a double feature With Curse of the Voodoo The film tells the story Of a facially damaged android
Starting point is 00:11:57 Who fights alien invaders Despite the title I should have led with this Neither Dr. Frankenstein Nor the Frankenstein monster Appear anywhere in the film. We have to get James back on just to talk about this. The film was ranked number seven in a DVD documentary called The 50 Worst Movies Ever Made.
Starting point is 00:12:16 We definitely should give him a call. We will. How's he doing? Is he in good spirits? Yeah. Is he lively? Great. Yeah, he's got the same voice.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Oh, I love that man. Yeah. Had you ever heard of this one, spirits? Yeah. Is he lively? Great. Yeah, he's got the same voice. Oh, I love that man. Yeah. Had you ever heard of this one, Paul? No. Is this man next to me a marvel or what? I haven't stumped him yet. Okay, Gil. Here's another one.
Starting point is 00:12:35 If it's a piece of shit, I've seen it. How about, what was that one? That was from 1965. Okay, I'm not going in order. I'm going all over the place. I believe you talked about this one on a previous show. This was made in 1958, but it's called Frankenstein 1970. Boris Karloff.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Very good. And the premise is they're shooting a horror movie in an old house that they don't know is the house of Dr. Frankenstein. Yes. Yes. Who was held know is the house of Dr. Frankenstein. Yes. Yes. Who was held prisoner by the Nazis. Correct. Dr. Frankenstein. Did you know that Frankenstein became, was a prisoner of war?
Starting point is 00:13:15 Yes. Dr. Frankenstein. Dr. Frankenstein. Yes. Made in 1958. Dr. Frankenstein allows a TV crew to shoot a movie in his castle, and he uses the cash to buy an atomic reactor. I assume to exact revenge
Starting point is 00:13:29 on the Nazis who tortured him? Wow. When the Baron, the arrangement gives the Baron just enough money to buy an atomic reactor which he uses to create a living being, modeled after his own likeness. When the Baron runs out of body parts for his work, he proceeds to kill off members of the film crew.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Well, absolutely. And even his faithful butler for more spare parts. Boy, Karloff was just... Oh, oh yeah. This is heartbreaking. Give me a check. Yeah, cut to the check. And Karloff, I think in one part,
Starting point is 00:13:58 does a whole long speech about this one Nazi who used to yell at them. And he goes, And then they found him with his tongue cut out nicely done yeah nicely done after the reactor is shut down and the radio the radiation falls to safe levels the monster's bandages are removed and an audio tape is played back in which the baron reveals that he had intended all along for the monster's bandages are removed and an audio tape is played back in which the Baron reveals that he had intended all along for the monster to be a perpetuation of himself because he was the last
Starting point is 00:14:30 of the Frankenstein family line. There you go. Is this making any sense at all? Not too much. I think they were originally going to call this Frankenstein 1963. But then they said, well, it's only like three years into the future.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Technically five. Yeah, like five years into the future. That's not so mysterious. It was shot in black and white CinemaScope. It was released theatrically on a double feature with the Zsa Zsa Gabor film, Queen of Outer Space. Oh. How about that?
Starting point is 00:15:03 And I remember it begins with, it looks like the Frankenstein monster's chasing someone. And then it goes, cut. And then you see it's. Oh, it's the fake out. Yeah. So then you know it's a movie being made. At least they were clever enough to do that. The movie they were shooting at the beginning, they should have shot that movie.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Directed by a man who had a career, Howard Koch, who was the producer of The Odd Couple, The Manchurian Candidate, Airplane. Howard W. Koch.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Everybody's got to start somewhere. Felix! Felix! Frankenstein! He was, Howard Koch had a big career. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:16:39 supports the planting and preservation of Canadian forests through the Miele Forest Initiative. Join us in making an impact today for a better tomorrow. Visit mila.ca to learn more. Okay, we haven't stumped Gilbert yet. Here's another one. I fear we will not. Does the title Frankenstein's Castle of Freaks mean anything to you? The title.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Okay, the star is Rosanna Brasi as Cap Frankenstein. You can't go wrong with a midget in a movie. Not a midget. Michael Dunn's in it. Oh, wow. Yeah, Michael Dunn's in it. How did you know that? So somewhere, Irving Villages was going, Why wasn't I in that movie?
Starting point is 00:17:27 Can I talk to my ancient Marty Rosenberg? Hey, Marty! Why wasn't I in Frankenstein and the Castle of Freaks? Where I could have gotten more pussy than Tom Salik.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Tom Salik. Back this up a minute. Why did you think Rossano Brasi was a midget? Rossano Brasi? With a name like that, he should be. He was Katharine Hepburn's love interest in Summertime. The Italian actor. Yeah, but they shot him
Starting point is 00:18:09 to look normal. Right. But without even... They had him standing on a soda box. Without even knowing it, you didn't even know there was a dwarf who got second billing. The great Michael Dunn. Who did Michael Dunn play?
Starting point is 00:18:25 Michael Dunn played Gens. Gens. I know, but that doesn't tell us much. He had to have a midget name. What? He had to have a midget name. Of course. Like they could name him Dave or Phil. He had to have all the Gens. Phil the midget?
Starting point is 00:18:43 Hey! Could someone Phil the midget, please? Let me give you the plot of this one. We're taking a break. We have to fill the midget. You'll love this one, Paulie. A Neanderthal man is lynched by villagers. And Count Frankenstein brings the monster back to life.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Trying to avoid detection from the authorities and the locals, his creation escapes and wreaks havoc. You know, as it does. As they tend to do. I love this. I found this gaffe on IMDB. Doing research. On Frankenstein's Castle of Freaks which was Italian. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:26 You can put through your usual slurs out there. Some of our famous movie makers. John Smith. Well here's what's interesting. Italian film critic
Starting point is 00:19:35 and historian Roberto Cutti stated that the production the production details of this film were shady if not contradictory which includes
Starting point is 00:19:44 the identity of the director of the film which is unknown. contradictory which includes the identity of the director of the film which is unknown. Nobody would put their name on it. Kind of like this episode. Just kind of like
Starting point is 00:19:52 this episode. I just got a call from Standards. They asked if we stop recording now and burn the Macintosh and anything related
Starting point is 00:20:01 to this episode. No more mentions? There are different theories about who directed. No one would take credit for Frankenstein's Castle of Freaks. Was it producer Oscar Brazzi? Cinematographer Mario Mancini? Or Spanish actor Ramiro Olivares? It sounds like Caritas Chico would have been in.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Yeah, Barabelli. Directed by Barabelli. Ravelli the Iceman. You know, and... I don't want any ice. Hey, Rusty. Hey, Rusty. What do you got, Paul?
Starting point is 00:20:40 Well, there's just... We should save these for a part two. Oh, my throat hurts. It just has similar movies to Castle of Freaks. And there's like another eight or ten here that are just unbelievable. The film was released in the U.S. under various titles, including Terror Castle, The House of Freaks, The Monsters of Dr. Frankenstein, and finally Dr. Frankenstein's Castle of Freaks. They not only had trouble with the director's name, the movie's name was also a problem. So, you know, you like to go had trouble with the director's name, the movie's name was also a problem. So, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:05 you like to go slamming the Guinea director's name. In this case, they evaded your ire because nobody would actually take credit for it. I got another one here. Do I have this one?
Starting point is 00:21:18 So this movie had no witnesses. No witnesses. By the way, Frankenstein 1970, just to go back, was shot in eight days on a modest budget. And the film's
Starting point is 00:21:32 main set was barred from a 1958 movie called Too Much Too Soon. How about that? Yeah. Yeah. Good stuff. Okay, here's a couple more. Do these mean anything to you? Lady Frankenstein.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Yes. Joseph Cotton. Lady Frankenstein has Mickey Haggerty. You're right. Mickey Haggerty. Yes. Hargitay. Hargitay.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Mickey Hargitay. Who is Mariska Hargitay's father. Yeah, Jane Mansfield's ex-husband. Yeah, and he's like a detective. I don't know the plot of this one. I'm going to have Paul look it up. It was Lady Frankenstein. And one thing I will have to give them points for.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Yep. There was nudity. In Lady Frankenstein? Yes. There was nudity. How about that? I hope it wasn't Joseph Kahn. Tell me the third actor listed, by the way, Paul, if you found it.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Yeah, I had it. How do you pronounce his name? The third actor listed under Mickey Hargitay and Joseph Cotton is Herbert F-U-X. Herbert Fox. Or Herbert Fuchs. Or Herbert... But how would you pronounce F-U-X? Fuchs.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Fuchs? Fuchs. But he's not a Jewish fella. Well, it depends on whether you like the guy. You like him, he's Jewish. Not a Jewish fella. Gilbert has actually heard of Lady Frankenstein. I was...
Starting point is 00:22:57 When I was working Vegas the last time, I went to the clothing place. I mean, you you know the costume girls and I was doing my laundry there in the room and I was sitting in the chair and Lady Frankenstein was on
Starting point is 00:23:15 and I thought this is such a treat wow there was nudity you live an active life and Mickey Hargitay and Mickey Hargitay yeah And Mickey Hargitay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:25 So I think I went through so many screens here. I think I have the right one. And you know something? Mickey Hargitay, not a good actor. No. No. No. So Dr. Frankenstein is killed by a monster he created.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Yes. His daughter and his lab assistant continue his experiments. The two fall in love. Of course. An attempt to transplant Marshall's brain into the muscular body of a retarded servant, Stephen. I wonder this was up your alley. And I think...
Starting point is 00:23:51 This is like Gilbert directed this. I think Mickey Hargitay is doing... trying to be a cool detective. I see. Like carrying a cane and polishing the handle. He's Mike Hammer. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Okay, what else you got? Do you know this one, Gil? From 1957, this star somebody who was also featured in your act, Wit Bissell. Teenage Frankenstein. You got it.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Teenage Frankenstein. I was a teenage Frankenstein. And I mean, the makeup looked like silly putty. Yeah, well, this was an AIP special. Oh, yes, yes. This was an arc off beauty. I don't even know where to begin.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Phyllis Coates is in it. Lois Lane. Oh, wow. Who's still with us. They have a, their one big line in the movie is, Whit Bissell, as Dr. Frankenstein says, I know you have a civil tongue. I sewed it there myself.
Starting point is 00:24:55 I love it. Yes. What was the Whit Bissell? Was it Bessel? Oh, Bessel, Bissell, Jacqueline Bissett. Ted Bessel. In the Jessel story? Yeah. You did that the first night I ever saw you on stage at the comic show.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Yes. Which I'm guessing was 1980, 81? And back then they were all dead. Except for Jacqueline Bissett. Ted Bessel in the Georgie Jessel story. We like Bessel but only a B Bessel, says the Jewish press. Yeah, great stuff. Gary Conway from Land of the Giants played the monster.
Starting point is 00:25:31 That's right. He's the monster. And at one point, he kills a teenage boy, I love this line, and obtains his face. I don't know what that means. And he's wearing like a pretty boy muscle man t-shirt. Uh-huh. Even though he's got the Frankenstein makeup on. So this was grade Z, Arkoff all the way.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Absolutely. Nicholson and Arkoff. Absolutely. And Arkoff, yeah. Boy, there is no stumping you on this subject of bad Frankenstein movies. Samuel Arkoff. Oh, that's right. Was it him that said the crap was my idea?
Starting point is 00:26:03 Oh. The shit was my idea? What was it? Yeah, because I think. What was the story? Roger Ebert. Right. After seeing that cue.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Cue, the Larry Cohen thing. Yes. He said of Michael Moriarty's performance, it's a great method acting uh in in a piece of dreck and now arcoff proudly says the dreck was my idea i love that that is just great king of the z's samuel arcoff okay before i go out on the on the big one that i know you'll know a couple other mentions a movie called frankenstein general hospital from 1988. No. Well, our friend Leonard Maltin called it the worst Frankenstein film ever made in English.
Starting point is 00:26:50 And that's saying something. Yes. With the ones we just rattled off. A movie that got a big release. But that looks like it was trying to be funny. I guess. Which makes it worse. I guess.
Starting point is 00:27:01 A movie that got a... And I remember what happened was I was filming either a part in a movie or TV show, and the producer said, we have to take a break for a while. You want us to go out and get you a book? And I knew that Arcoff had a book out out and I said, can you get that one? And he said, not only can I get you the book, but our driver will take you to Samuel Arcoff's house and he'll sign it for you.
Starting point is 00:27:37 You've told that story. That's a great story. And he signed it? Yes, it was amazing. That's a great story. I think he wrote in the book something like, I don't know who you are, but Guy said you're okay, so that's fine with me. I love it.
Starting point is 00:27:57 How perfect would he have been for this podcast? Oh, my God. Here's a major Hollywood release that was a terrible bomb. The Bride with Sting. Oh, yes. And Jennifer Beals in 1985. Oh, God. I have not seen it.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Is it an attempt to remake The Bride of Frankenstein? Kind of. And there's a midget in it. Of course. Oh, is it Warwick Davis? Who was the midget? Maybe. The guy from Legend?
Starting point is 00:28:24 Because the Frankenstein monster becomes friends with a midget. Okay. Paul, you're going to have to look that up. Find that midget. They joined the circus. Right. So it's the Frankenstein monster in the circus. Yeah, Clancy Brown plays the Frankenstein monster.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Oh, wow. We got to get him on this show. Yeah, he's an interesting guy from Shawshank Redemption. What about these hammer pictures? I know you're not a hammer guy, but Curse of Frankenstein with Christopher Lee. And then there's two without Lee that Cushing was in called The Evil of Frankenstein and Frankenstein Must Be Destroyed. Oh, I remember I saw those when I was a kid, like on late 19th. You're not a fan of those.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Never was. I remember in one of the movies, but it may have had Alan Bates. Okay. Where they accidentally, it's such a grown ending, they accidentally kill a kid, accidentally kills the monster by pulling a lever that has acid in it and it melts the monster. It's like your old
Starting point is 00:29:30 bit about the lever in the castle that blows the castle up. Yeah, don't pull that lever. I haven't seen The Bride but for honorable mention as far as bad Frankenstein movies I'd like to throw in Mary Shelley's Frankenstein with De Niro as the monster,
Starting point is 00:29:46 which temporarily ended Kenneth Bronner's movie career. Yeah, that was like, he sounded like Jake LaMotta as Frankenstein. Well, it's just the peril of casting such a contemporary actor as the Frankenstein monster. You might as well make Pacino, you know, Igor. What do you got on... What was the last one I gave you, Paul? What, The Bride? Yeah, well, no, we don't need to talk about
Starting point is 00:30:12 The Bride. I'm going to close with this. And they tried to make it a big women's lib parable. Yeah. Like she wouldn't be ordered around by Dr. Frankenstein. The makeup was impressive. These are the ones I found. I'm sure there are many, many other terrible Frankenstein movies,
Starting point is 00:30:28 but these are the ones that I found. And we'll wrap with one I know you know, directed by Al Adamson in 1971. Oh, my, Frankenstein versus Dracula. You got it. Wait, it's the other way around. Oh, Dracula versus Frankenstein. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Lon Chaney Jr. Very good. And J. Carol Nash. Look at you. And the monster was like Zigoff Zaka. It was something, a totally made-up name, like Zardo. Really a guy named Jerry Levine. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:00 And well, the Frankenstein monster in it, who's seven feet tall, he was actually, talk about Jews, he was an accountant. He was like, hey, I think he was the accountant of Al Adamson. It says like Edward's chiropractor. Yes! And he was getting a little annoyed doing the movie because it was tax season where he makes most of his money. Good God. Did Chaney play a mute? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Groton, the mute? I mean, Chaney was like he had been dead for 10 years while he was filming that. 1971. And so, yeah, he played a mute called, like, yeah, Groton. Groton. Because when you're a midget or a monster, you have to have a name.
Starting point is 00:31:55 You know, it can't be Henry the Monster. Or, of course, Phil the Midget. Could someone Phil the midget? We're running behind schedule. We need the midget filled. Here's where IMDB lets you down. Yeah, what happened? They're all headshots of the cast.
Starting point is 00:32:15 You can't tell who's the little one. But the guy, he's got a beard, and they came up with this name like Zarkov Zara. I saw it when I was looking at it today. I think it's on Wikipedia, Paul. Well, there's an actor who's named Xander Vorkoff. That's it! That's the guy. Xander Vorkoff. That's Dracula.
Starting point is 00:32:35 And I heard like you know, Chaney and J. Carol Nash shared a room together. Oh, it's just sad. And it had been years since they did House of Frankenstein. Does Fari Ackerman show up in this one?
Starting point is 00:32:52 Yes. As Dr. Beaumont? Yes. Yes. Yes. He shows up and he's killed by the monster. That's great. And this was a way to get it mentioned in Famous Monsters.
Starting point is 00:33:02 In Famous Monsters of Filmland. Russ Tamblyn was in it. Russ Tamblyn. Yes. Yes. We've got to get it mentioned in Famous Monsters of Filmland. Russ Tamblyn was in it. Russ Tamblyn. Yes! We've got to get Russ Tamblyn. Because also... Dara, book Russ Tamblyn. Also, it was originally also going to be called, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:17 Motorcycle Freaks. Like, because it was a motorcycle picture that turned into a Dracula Frankenstein movie. And then they got Cheney and J. Carol Nash and they combined the two. I have not seen you this excited in a long time. Xander Vorkov.
Starting point is 00:33:36 And I heard that when Cheney and J. Carol Nash were sitting in the room together, Cheney said to J. Carol Nash, well, J., I guess we're going to be dead soon. And J. Carol Nash said, Shut up, Juan. That's a beautiful story. I saw that on Inside the Actor's Studio. Beautiful.
Starting point is 00:34:04 How do you know all this? Yes, if you could be anything, Mr. Nash. Did he impress you? Dara's sitting in there eating a banana and shaking her head with a sense of wonder. We've secretly replaced Gilbert's usual coffee with cocaine. Let's watch. If God does exist, If God does exist, what would J. Carol Nash say to him?
Starting point is 00:34:34 What is Xander Zirkoff's favorite curse word? Oh, this was a fun one. So thanks to Sean Liu. Listener Sean Liu. Gilbert had a field day. Lon Chaney Jr., what is your favorite word? We'll be dead soon. He actually proposed,
Starting point is 00:34:54 I dare say this, I say this at great risk, he actually, his idea was only, was Frankenstein and Dracula movies the worst ever, but I knew you would get so excited
Starting point is 00:35:02 and that you would have so much information that I'd have to table Dracula for another day. So the worst ever, but I knew you would get so excited and that you would have so much information that I'd have to table Dracula for another day. So the next time, we'll do worse Dracula movies. Thank you, Sean Lew. It shows how pathetic I am that most guys, they could give
Starting point is 00:35:18 you all the facts on baseball and football games, and me, I'm this excited over Dracula vs. Frankenstein. You knew which one had a midget in it and what Cheney said to J. Carol Nash on his deathbed.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Well, I think I talked about it on the show. Al Adamson. Yeah, now gone. Okay. Al Adamson, the way he died, Al Adamson, he was a shit producer. And he wanted to have a swimming pool. So he hired, are we ready?
Starting point is 00:35:55 A drifter to make the swimming pool for him. Oh, I know this story. You know, a drifter, when can that ever end badly? It wasn't a member of the drifters. It was an actual drifter. That was a member of, what was that other team that said, Good night, Irene. What was that group that sang Good Night, Irene?
Starting point is 00:36:22 The Weavers. Was it the Weavers? The Weavers, yes. It wasn't that a time. Yes. Okay. So he hires a drifter to make him a pool for cheap. And he makes the pool.
Starting point is 00:36:36 And then people are saying, friends of Al Adamson say, where's Al Adamson? We're calling him. We stopped by his house. He's not here. And so finally, the police show up at Al Adamson's house and the pool has been plastered over. And they found out that he did build the pool, killed Al Adamson, the drifter, pool killed al adamson the drifter and then close up the pool and he told the police well al adamson changed his mind about having a pool and he wants to meet up what a story this is like edgar allen poe here it really is almost as good a death as what's his name dr cyclops oh yes oh my god albert Dr. Cyclops. Oh, yes. Oh, my God. Albert Decker. Albert Decker. Yes.
Starting point is 00:37:25 They're good. They're right there, neck and neck. Great, gruesome Hollywood. What was his in brief? Oh, he was killed by some kind of hustler. They found him hanging naked in the shower, bound and gagged with obscene drawings and words written all over his body and the police ruled it
Starting point is 00:37:49 a suicide. A very talented suicide. And one other podcast that offers Al Adamson being killed and buried alive in his own swimming pool. We gotta sign off. That was fun. So this has been Gilbert and Frank's amazing
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