Gilbert Gottfried's Amazing Colossal Podcast - Mini #193: Bad Ape Movies

Episode Date: December 6, 2018

This week: Ray "Crash" Corrigan! Gilbert breaks down "Old Dracula"! Raymond Burr turns into a gorilla! Jerry Lewis threatens to sue! And the strange proclivities of Lionel Atwill! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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is another episode of Gilbert and Frank's amazing colossal obsessions with the poster child for Hey guys I have to interrupt Can we start that over

when I went to hit stop to play my soundbite, I actually stopped. All right, we'll call that a rehearsal. You're now officially over. Yeah. Our engineer, Frank Berderosa, fucked up again. Now, you might not know this, but this is the second time I'm going to be introducing this show because frank fucked up again oh i'm gilbert godfrey and i'm here with my co-host frank santopadre and this is another episode

of gilbert and frank's amazing colossal obsessions and we have the poster child for Munchausen Syndrome by proxy Ray Bone. How's your Munchausen Syndrome by proxy? It's okay, but one of these days I'm bringing my proxies. And you'll find out. You're not one of those anti-vaxxers

are you? No. Get your shots. Yeah. From Munchausen by proxy. Gil, how are you? all right get your shots yeah from munchausen by proxy gill how are you i'm still laughing because because because joel gray just left hysterical and uh he put us on and it was it was great and fun i okay yes just i was working some club out of town uh-oh and i was watching tv and on comes a movie we mentioned oh no old dracula with david niven david niven and teresa graves the late teresa graves yeah now this is the plot of the movie was dracula's uh bride i guess somehow turns black and he wants to turn her white. Turn her back to white.

And so the movies, I can't describe how bad it is. It had a different title that I can't remember right now. And they tried to cash in on the success of Young Frankenstein. Yes. By crassly naming it Old Dracula. Exactly. It's just shameful and and i i what you do on the road by the way when you're this is how you this is how you entertain yourself that was one of the better movies i saw couldn't find an event me me you so i i don't want to spoil it yeah for any of you who's dreaming life

to catch old Dracula but the ending of the movie is she bites him at one point and then his back is to the camera at the end and he turns around and David

Niven is in black face just when you think it can't get worse and David Niven is in blackface. Oh! Just when you think it can't get worse. David Niven in blackface. Thank you, Arnie Kogan. Yes.

They're still showing this. Yes. Well, that's strange that they wouldn't have just buried it somewhere. Yeah. In this day and age. Without the blackface pod it was would have been worth burying well we had it on our list of bad dracula movies and i guess it was an appropriate addition addition paul how the hell are you not too bad how are you guys i want to just quickly thank a couple of fans i want to thank our fan michael esslinger who sent two books

he sent a book about escaping from alcatraz, which I guess I gave you the last time we were here. And he co-wrote Julie Dawn Cole, and she is Veruca Salt from the Willy Wonka movie. He co-wrote her memoir. And he sent Gilbert and I

copies. Veruca Salt is a Jewish holiday. Yes. Veruca Salt. I won't be working. It's Veruca Salt. copies. Baruch HaSolk is a Jewish holiday. Yes. Yes. Baruch HaSolk. I won't be working. It's Baruch HaSolk. So I want to thank Michael. We will read these books with great interest. I Want It Now is the name of the book. It's Julie Dawn Cole's

memoir from the set of Willy Wonka. And also, I just want to thank Steve Hanna for that fantastic comic book, the Thanksgiving comic book he did of you being slid into the oven by a turkey. I just realized what I'm saying.

He really nailed the look of those old I'm amazed at what people see. He's got great talent so thank you steve keep them coming i didn't bring my phone with me where i left two messages on it so i'll have to well i was too uh typed out messages but somebody said that he remembers the theater I was talking about. Yeah, in King's Highway? Yes.

Yeah. Where you saw Death Wish. On Fort Hamilton, because he said it, I think it was a Lowe's 64. And was it? I don't know. You know what's funny? We put that up on Facebook. We asked people after the Malton episode, post your theater, post your neighborhood theater.

And people, it's great. If you go to the Listener Society, I know Frankie. Post your neighborhood theater. And people, it's great. If you go to the Listener Society, I know Frankie's looked at it, but 100 people at least posted pictures, in many cases defunct, of their local movie house. And it's just great to see them from all over the world. This guy says he also saw Death Wish at that theater. And that theater now

is a furniture store. Oh, that's depressing. My beloved Cross Bay Theater in Queens is a Modell's. Oh. Yeah. It's where I saw five Planet of the Apes movies

in one day. The Cameo Theater in Crown Heights, I think it became like a church or something. said well i don't know how to do this frankie but at some point maybe we'll get some listeners on the line and we'll just we'll just you know we'll just talk about old movie theaters you know we'll pick we'll pick five or six people oh and i saw it i don't even remember the title of it and we're gonna have We're going to have them on next week. The Jew and Arab play.

Oh, you saw The Band's Visit. Yes. The Band's Visit. When the minute I started watching it, I said, I saw this movie. Yes, it was a movie. Yeah. And I remember seeing the movie. Yeah.

But the guy, the guy at the ticket booth said, oh, he goes, I know what theater you saw Death Wish in. Oh, it's the same guy who listens to the podcast. Yeah. I know that guy at Will Call. And he named a different theater on Fort Hamilton. That guy, I was interviewing David for something to do with CBS. And I went to, and he was nice enough, his publicist was nice enough to give me tickets to the band's visit and I went to will call window with my wife yes same guy and I give him my name and the guy lights up and he says from the Gilbert podcast yeah oh and I said you listen

to the show and he said we all listen to the show he was so mad yeah it was so magical so great it was really great we actually have an episode for you, Gilbert. Oh, okay. You did so well. I put Paul on this, too, and Paul had a good time. I think it ruined his Thanksgiving. Yes. It was good for my Munchausen, though. Good for his Munchausen. It's good he needs to stay active.

Yes, yes. You were such a trooper with the bad Dracula and the bad Frankenstein movies. And our friends John Fodiatis. We should have a whole new category Bad Dracula Movies in Blackface. Yeah.

That's really drilling down. And show old Dracula. You have to see David Niven in Blackface. It can't get worse. That's this week's recommendation. David Niven in blackface. It can't get worse. That's this week's recommendation. An old Dracula. It sucks. The alternate title was David Niven Puts in a New Pool House.

Yeah. But Eric Ryan specifically and John Fodiatis, two of our buddies, have become obsessed with your numerous references to chimps. Yes. And there's a Chimp Friday or Monkey Friday or something that they do on Twitter between your Sunset Boulevard chimp references. Does this have to do with the movie The Ape Man? How did you know that? I thought when you said chimp, I thought Bela Lugosi in The Ape Man.

Well, you get ahead of me, sir. Because I thought, and I called Paul, and I said, what if we did ape movies? Bad ape movies. Not having anything to do with Planet of the Apes. Right. Or even Kong knockoffs. But these are guerrilla films. When I was a kid, well, you could take a drink of scotch now, everybody listening.

I just said when I was a kid. And I'd see a gorilla there. I'd always think, oh, they're saving money on monster makeup. They dug into the closet, got out the gorilla suit. Right, like Murders in the Room work. Yes, yes. Yeah, which is the first one I want to mention from 1932. Well, he's Dr. Miracle.

Dr. Miracle. Yes. Yeah. Yes. Who appeals to the people, who appalls the people of Paris. Not appeals to them. I'm reading this. I'm reading this.

This is a wonderful article. No, he appeals to them. In the movie, they go, oh, let you go see, very attractive. He appalls the people of Paris by exhibiting a gorilla which is alternately portrayed by an actual chimp and a guy in a gorilla suit. And I'm sure it matches so well. Injecting them with blood. There's a kidnapping. There's a whole thing. I'm taking this, by the way, I want to give credit to Trav S.D., who is a wonderful motion picture and showbiz historian.

And he did an article in the Downtown Express where he basically, he's a man after your own heart. He basically talks about the ape and the ape man. And we're going to go through them. Yeah. Really quickly. Before, can I say one interesting thing? Please do. Yes.

You might think that people in their careers would occasionally don a gorilla suit for a movie or two. Bob Burns, our guest. Oh, yes, yes. Famous. It turns out that there are many people who have made entire careers out of wearing gorilla suits, and one that'll come up, I think,

later in the show was... Was it one of them, Johannes Prochaska? A stuntman named Steve Calvert. Steve Calvert. them johanna stuntman named steve calvert steve calvert wasn't there a stuntman bonobo or something uh i don't know but it turned the main way that you got a part as a gorilla was to have a gorilla suit because steve calvert bought a gorilla suit in 1948 for the rest of his career he was a gorilla in in a day at the circus with the mox brothers groucho groucho said that they had a gorilla suit this guy oh yeah and uh the stunt man was passing out because he couldn't breathe in it so the director punched holes in it. And when the guy found out about it, he took the gorilla suit back and he left.

So they got another gorilla suit and they said, like, it's like one gorilla is half the size of the other in the movie. What do you want to say about Murders in the Rue Morgue? Okay. With your beloved Bela Lugosi. Yeah. about Murders in the Rue Morgue. Okay. With your beloved Bela Lugosi.

Yeah. Murders in the Rue Morgue was, you know, it's not much to talk about because it was actually a fairly good movie. Yes, yes. But the ape... I almost didn't mention that one because it outclasses the other movies on this list. The ape man, though.

We didn't get there yet. We're going to go in chronological order. Oh, I'm sorry. That's okay. I just remember he was Dr. Miracle. Yes, Dr. Miracle. Anything on Murders in the Room, Mark Paul? No, but I do have, as long as we're going chronologically.

It was an Edgar Allen Post story. Yes, it was an Edgar Allen Post story. Yeah, that's right. According to some of this web research, somebody named Charles Jamora, does that ring a bell at all? No, not at all. Was the first to specialize in guerrilla portrayals, including in the 1927 silent film, The Guerrilla, which was not about a guerrilla.

Her rose is going crazy with the... You might think the guerrilla was about a guerrilla, but actually it was about a man who dressed up in a guerrilla suit. Very contemporary. I gotta see that one. That's disturbing. Who knows if we even have time to get to these. I think Dave and Vivint's in it.

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Yeah. And the fact that they intercut, they used both a gorilla suit and a chimp in the same scene. What about the gorilla from 1939 with the Ritz brothers? Oh, my. And Bela Lugosi and Lionel Atwill.

Wow. Do you know anything about this one? That seems like one of those movies I probably saw one afternoon. Okay. Years ago, but I don't remember any of it. It is a 1939 horror comedy starring the Ritz brothers, Lionel Atwill, Bela, and Patsy Kelly. It's based on a play. Oh!

Clearly, by Clifford Odets. When a wealthy man played by Atwill is threatened by a killer known as the Gorilla, he hires the Ritz Brothers to investigate and a real escaped Gorilla shows up at the mansion just as the investigators arrive.

Okay. Patsy Kelly portrays a maid who wants to quit because the butler, played by Bela Lugosi, scares her. All right. I don't see how that could be bad. I'm surprised you don't know. A Bela film you don't know. I was kind of interested in Lionel Atwill, who I wasn't familiar with. He was the one-armed Inspector Krogh. Yes, you don't know Lionel Atwill?

Well, that's why I hang around with you guys. Lionel Atwill. Parodied in Young Frankenstein by Kenneth Morgan. Lionel Atwill actually got in a bit of Errol Flynn trouble. Correct. Yeah, there was some kind of weird sex parties at either of those houses. There were multiple people involved. That is correct.

Yes, let's move on to one you might know, Gilbert, called The Ape. Are you familiar with this one? And who is it? From 1940. This was directed and produced by William Nye and co-written by Kurt Siadmak, who was actually... Oh, he wrote The Wolfman. He sure did, and many, many others. The House of Frankenstein and many, many others.

This one starred Karloff. Dr. Bernard Adrian is a kindly scientist who seeks to cure a young woman's polio. All he needs is spinal fluid from a human to complete the formula for his serum. But meanwhile, a vicious circus ape has broken out of its cage and is terrorizing the town people. The ape breaks into

Dr. Adrian's lab, but the spinal fluids he requires to perform his experiments have been destroyed, so he will tear off the ape's flesh, use its skin to disguise himself as the escaped circus animal, and murder townspeople in order to extract their spinal fluid. Sounds like an intelligent plan. Like it's a well-thought-out plan. It's a social commentary, I think. And Ray Crash Corrigan played the ape.

Oh, yes! He was one of those guys that wore the ape suit. He was a career ape man. Made a buck wearing an ape suit. The play had a prologue. Of course, it's also based on a play. Oh, jeez. This is bizarre.

It had a prologue set in India where an Englishman killed a sacred ape and a Hindu priest put a curse on him. Okay. This is Karloff in 1940. Is this an RKO one? It is a monogram. Monogram. Bottom of the barrel. It is a monogram. Monogram! Monogram! Bottom of the barrel.

It has a poignant ending. It's not quite blackface, but this guy gets shot at the end, and as he lays dying, the woman that he's been trying to help stands up from her wheelchair, and his ape suit fades, and you can see the troubled doctor himself. There you go. I'm getting choked up. I can see the troubled doctor himself there you go i'm i'm getting choked up i can see the tears it was the final feature in karloff's six picture contract with monogram yeah monogram was like the bottom of the barrel in horror filming took all of a week yeah oh wow yeah but the la times called

the film engrossing and said karloff shows himself a skilled player of the slightly eerie film engrossing and said Karloff shows himself a skilled player of the slightly eerie. I'm a gorilla. You've been asking for The Ape Man from 1943. And here it is. Directed by take a wild guess. Oh, is it

Bodine? William One Shot Bodine. My favorite director. And he is experimenting as all these mad scientists do, with serum. Yeah, another serum. From monkeys. Serum du jour. And he, of course, for some dumb reason, either by accident, he hits himself with a shot of the serum, and he a half ape half human correct now when now i think

his mother it's so ridiculous because another subplot yeah is that his mother is a clairvoyant i don't have that here yeah like uh like, he's like, unless that was in Devil Bat. He has a sister who's a ghost hunter. Yes, yes, his sister. And I think there's a camera crew at the house to film his sister who's a ghost. at the house to film his sister, who's a ghost. And if I'm not mistaken, one of these, either the ape man or devil bat, has some, what's his name?

Oh, fuck. Fuck. Okay, give me a hint. No, this one I know. Ted Healy. Oh, Ted Healy. Okay, give me a hint. No, this one I know. Ted Healy. Oh, Ted Healy. Oh, my God. I don't have Ted Healy on this list.

Hey, waste of time. Oh, you. Yes. Yes. Look up Ted Healy, Bela Lugosi. Yeah, see what you can come up with. I can do that. Because Ted Healy plays a smart-talking reporter.

You think it's in this one? In The Ape Man? It could be. Could it be in Return of the Ape Man from 1944? Oh, no. You want to know something? Return of the Ape Man doesn't have shit to do with The Ape Man. I know. It says it right here.

The Return of the Ape Man. No connection. They like the title. Right. But this has to do with bringing a caveman back from the dead. Yes. Allegedly. Another monogram classic.

Yes. And allegedly, it was supposed to have starred George Zuko. But George Zuko is not in the movie. Althoughco is not in the movie although he has third billing yes he has third billing because monogram was so fucking cheap that it would cost money to make a new frame for it so they left george zucco's name well what it says if you trust wikipedia george zucco is co-credited on screen and he's in the publicity, along with an actor named Frank Moran as having played the ape man. But his presence in any scene of the finished film is doubtful.

Yeah. One still photo of Zuko in monster makeup in Lugosi's lab has been identified. The producers later explained he became ill during the filming. Ah. Or he was deemed too old to carry out the role or that he simply refused to play the part. Or if we go with your theory, they didn't want to pay him.

Yeah. Yeah. But John Carradine's in it too. Yes. Professor Gilmore. Yes. What were we looking at? I'm Professor Gilmore.

That's very good, John. You were looking up to see if Ted Healy. I get all this stuff about the Three Stooges. Yeah, but is Ted Healy a man? It was Ted Healy and the Three Stooges. That's where the Stooges started out. All right, so that's it. See what you can find as I move on.

And Ted Healy, I get the impression, was kind of like the Mo when they were together. Yeah, I believe that's true. Yeah. And Ted Healy died in that bar in the bar fight. Yes. Supposedly punched out by, I think, allegedly Cubby Broccoli. Yes. The producer of the Bond films and somebody else.

Oh, yeah. Did you know this? Yeah, I did know this. We talked to Billy West about it. And I think it was on the day his son was born. Something like that. He just gave birth to a boy, and he got drunk. He was a terrible drinker, and he got killed in a bar fight.

I'm impressed by how much you know about Return of the Ape Man. Yes. This says they bring a caveman back to a lab and thaw him out, but the caveman can't talk to relay what he knows, so Lugosi decides to transplant part of a modern brain into his head. Carradine refuses to participate. I won't do that! He has ethics.

It will be murder. Lugosi tricks him with an electric floor plate that paralyzes him, yet somehow allows him to talk. I will put a human brain in his body. No, that's insanity, sir. It's barbaric. Thank you to TravSD for all of that wonderful information. You know way too much about Return of the Ape Man.

Here's another one starring your boy, Lon Chaney Jr. Do you know what I'm holding in my hand? Wait, wait, wait. Well, it can't be the Gator people. It's from 1951. We've jumped from 32... Oh, wait! I know it!

I know it! He co-starred with Raymond Burr. You got it! And it was written by Kurt Siadamak. Directed by him, even. Yeah. And it's basically like the Wolfman story. Well, it was, yes.

It's Bride of the Gorilla. Yeah. Is what you're thinking of. Yes. And by the way, Kurt Siadamak wrote House of Frankenstein, The Wolfman, Son of Dracula, and Frankenstein Meets the Wolfman. Yes. So he had some credibility.

Yeah, and Bride of the... Oh, I think it's Beverly Garland. It's Barbara Payton. Barbara Payton. She died a horrible death. You referenced her on a previous episode. Barbara Payton, I think, wound up being a hooker wow in the last year well i have some i have some gossip here but what do you have on ted healy and the and apes not much it's he i

don't i can't find anything on apes he played like a wisecracking reporter well it says he uh influenced several comedy stars marcia healy his sister his sister, was with the Three Stooges in The Sitter Downers. Does that ring a bell at all? No, yeah, no. Gilbert's looking for an ape connection. Yeah, I'm working on it. One day we'll find it, the ape connection.

Are you sure it was an ape movie? The monkey used to dream of me. I found an ape connection, but I swiped right. Uh-huh, nice work. I got a little bit on Barbara Payton. It was definitely a low-budget horror shit film. I'm looking at all of the IMDB page for Ted Healy.

Ted Healy playing a wisecracking reporter. I don't see anything. Meet the Baron, Fugitive Lovers, Lazy River, Paris Interlude. I don't see any horror films here. Casino Murder Case, Mad Love, 35. Oh, maybe that's it with Peter Lorre. Is that the one? Peter Lorre.

He's in that. Colin Clyde. An insane surgeon's obsession with an actress leads her to replace the penis husband's hands. I know that one. The penis husband. Yeah. Yeah.

Could that be it yes and in bride of the gorilla uh it's it's uh raymond burr who has the wolfman part except that he turns into a gorilla correct instead of a wolf correct they've got a gypsy woman in it yep but lon chaney jr is the sheriff he's police commissioner taro yes yes now and apparently raymond burr took an immediately dislike and immediate dislike to cheney that two of them hated each other yeah that's interesting and they were both alcoholics right right but uh what's interesting when kurtzi adamac was writing the The Wolfman, his original idea was that you weren't sure if he actually does turn into a wolf or if it's something that he's imagining. That's interesting.

And so Universal said, no, we want a monster. Yeah. And in this movie, you're not sure if Raymond Burr is actually turning into a gorilla or if he just goes crazy from what the gypsy woman told him. It seems very confusing. Yeah. It was shot in 10 days by Mr. Siadmak. I don't think they took a lot of time. No. Although for William Bodine, 10 days was Mr. Siadmak. I don't think they took a lot of time. No.

Although for William Bodine, 10 days was like a David Lean shoot. Oh, yes. It was referenced in a MASH episode, Bride of the Gorilla. Oh, wow. The first season of MASH. It was spoofed on MST3000. But you will particularly spark to this. And I think you said this or referenced this

on a previous episode barbara payton's husband was french autone yes yes yes you know where i'm going with this okay he got beaten up by i think it was the actor from detour well that's not what i'm referring to here according to this he suspected that she was cheating on him so he paid a private eye to spy on her and the private eye found her in bed with woody strode oh my god i got another one that might be where gilbert was going oh my god it's right here at one point she had two boyfriends at the same time. Yes, yes. Franchot Tone. Franchot Tone. And Tom Neal. Yeah, he was the star of Detour. They fought almost to the death for Barbara's affections.

And I heard what happened was Tom Neal, who looked like he was on his way to some kind of successful acting career, he beat up Franchot Tone, and it turned the whole country against him. That's fascinating. So she married Tone after this almost fight to the death. Barbara Payton. And stayed with him for seven weeks and then went back to Neal. Yes.

So she was a little loopy. Gilbert, you know your Hollywood gossip. Yes, and I 30s then was like people were paying her to have sex with her so she had she had came to a bad end yeah one one director or producer slept with her and he gave her less than he usually paid her and he said well you're not worth as much as you used to be. Oh, my God. I heard she slept with William One-Shot Bodine, and it only took him 11 seconds to reach climax. Are you proud of what you know about Barbara Payton? Oh, yes.

By the way, your favorite, Edward G. Robinson, was originally cast in the Burr part as Barney Chavez. Oh, my God. I love Raymond Burr playing a Latino. It's as ridiculous as Charlton Heston playing a Mexican in Touch of Evil. Yeah, but instead of C, he went C. Robinson was fired after an arrest for writing a bad check. Oh, my God. How about that?

Wow. Isn't this good trivia? Yes. I say it every week. Do not say this show is not educational that leads us to my last ape related picture and this one i have seen yes thanks to drew friedman yes and it's time in my life i'll never get back i know it i know it i know it uh this is by the the classic comedy team of mitchell and there's no stumping you my friend

and it was uh gilbert the mic goes in front of your mouth meets a brooklyn gorilla and uh wandering off yeah yeah yeah baila go see me to brook Gorilla, Sammy Petrillo and Duke Mitchell. Right you are, Simeon Griff. And Sammy Petrillo, he was a Jerry Lewis clone. Yes, indeed he was. Drew Friedman turned me on to this movie many, many years ago. It's scary to watch. He's obsessed with it.

He's also obsessed with Sammy Petrillo. Oh, yes. It's a scary film to watch for the wrongillo. Oh, yes. It's a scary film to watch. For the wrong reasons. Apparently, shot in nine days, it is the only existing film record of Duke and Sammy's act. Such as it

was. Yes. If in fact they had an act. And this may be bullshit, but producer Jack Broder put Bela in the picture because Bela told him he wanted to do more comedy. Ouch! He should have kept looking. It was 1952.

Here's one for Gilbert. Ramona the Chimp in this movie was played by who? Ramona the Chimp? Gilbert, didn't you go out with Ramona the Chimp? Yes, yes! Ramona the Chimp? Gilbert, didn't you go out with Ramona the Chimp? Yes, yes. Ramona the Chimp was played by Cheetah from the Tarzan movies.

Correct. Oh, my goodness. Ramona the Chimp opened for Gilbert at the comic show. In the early 80s. She got top billing. Mickey Simpson was Chula, the man service, and Milton Neuberger was Bongo the witch doctor yeah this is a low point

you'd think this is Lugosi's lowest point it's pretty low lower than Ed Wood he also worked with the Bowery Boys yes the original title of this was White Women of the Lost Jungle

somebody somebody decided the original title of this was White Women of the Lost Jungle. Somebody. Somebody decided to capitalize on Bela's good name. And under that title, David Niven wanted to do it. According to producer Herman Cohen, Jerry Lewis was furious when he heard that Sammy and Duke Mitchell had formed a team that was imitative of his act with Dean Martin and that they were to appear in a film together.

So Gary Lewis, Jerry's eldest son, was quoted as saying, when Sammy and the other guy played in that guerrilla movie, my dad and Dean said, we got to sue these guys. This is no good. Lewis knew Jack Broder through the Friars Club of Beverly Hills, showed up in his office. The two got into a screaming match over the film, and Lewis stormed out yelling obscenities. There you go.

I remember the name of the law firm. Yeah. It was Floyvin and Floyvin. Floyvin and Floyvin! Oh, boy. Is this ever depressing? This is fun, too. Decades later, Martin Landau watched it three times in preparation for

his role as Lugosi in Scott and Larry's Wonderful Ed Wood, saying it was so bad it made Ed Wood's films look like Gone with the Wind. And there you have it. We want to thank Ned Hastings, who is our fan that came

up with this gift for Gilbert. This is a DVD collection called Sons of Kong. And on here are 10 cinema classics, including The Ape. Yes. Bela Lugosi meets a Brooklyn Gorilla. The Gorilla. Yeah. The Ape Man and Bride of the Gorilla.

This is our show right here. And it throws in for good measure the Savage Girl, White Gorilla, Law of the Jungle with Manton Moreland, Mnabonga with Buster Crabbe, and White Pongo. So enjoy that. Wow. So when I knew I was going to give that to you, I said, there's a mini episode idea. Not a stinker among them. All gems. Well, Gilbert, once again, has astounded us, I think it's fair to say.

Not a cough and a carload. Now, see if any of the listeners can identify that one. Gilly, what do you think? You've outdone yourself once again. Let's see if any of the listeners can identify that one. Yeah. Gilly, what do you think? Oh, okay. You've outdone yourself. Yes. Once again. I thought I was proud of myself with the bad Frankensteins.

So we hope that John Fodiatis and Eric Rine, our super fans, dine out on ape movies and gorilla movies. I'm surprised how much I know about bad egg movies. Tell the truth. You can't wait to get the shrink wrap off that. Oh, yes. In the DVR. He also sent you Zero Hour, which is the movie that Airplane was sending up with Dana Andrews and Sterling Hayden.

Worth watching. It's utterly ridiculous, but it's worth watching to see that they were actually almost shot by shot right spoofing zucker and zucker and abrams yeah and they they've got all the lines in it from uh airplane so thank you ned hastings for the gifts and the inspiration for gilbert's new favorite episode yes ape movies bad ape movies you, Paul, for your research. That's it. That's all I got. Okay.

And we left out any of the Three Stooges movies with apes in them. There's always another week. Yeah. Okay. Hey, speaking of Three Stooges, one of our last, what episode? One of our last minis,ilbert and i were talking about this what's the connection between moe robin williams mickey mouse and silicon valley good lord oh you better tell them because we're at the we're at the 35 minute mark same actor played all of them oh yeah it's uh the guy's right the guy from... Diamond Topless. Chris Diamond Topless. Chris Diamond Topless, yeah.

It was weird because Gilbert mentioned the Moe movie, the Three Stooges remake. Very good. And then later on in the same episode, he mentioned... I think we should explain what we mean by a Moe movie. Right. He played Moe in... Boys in the Band. He played Moe in the Farrelly Brothers Three Stooges picture.

And he played Robin Williams in a Robin Williams movie. That's good trivia. Right? And he's the voice of Mickey Mouse. Very good. All right, as long as you're doing movie trivia, I'm going to sign off with this one and throw this out to our listeners. Okay, Dustin Hoffman and Jack Nicholson

played essentially the same person. One actor played him by his name. One actor played a character based on him. And I'll throw this out to our listeners. I need the two movies and the two characters

who are basically the same. Basically are the same person. Don't guess because we're throwing it out there listen was there a gorilla there was no gorilla

there's no gorilla Ray Corrigan shows up as a gibbon and Eddie Parker we'll see you next week Colossal Obsessions