Gilbert Gottfried's Amazing Colossal Podcast - Mini #209: "The Munsters" vs. "The Addams Family" (with Universal tour guide Chris DeRose)

Episode Date: March 28, 2019

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Order now. Alcohol in select markets. Product availability may vary by Regency app for details. Here we go boys. One, two is Gilbert. Hi, this is Gilbert Gottfried. And I'm here with my co-host, Frank Santopadre. Oh, I'm not a sidekick this week? Yes, I'm here with my boy wonder. On your youthful ward?

Yes. Formally. I'm here with my male companion. Wow. I'm here with my life partner. Dreams do come true. Frank Santopadre. And our engineer, Frank Verderosa, who probably will lose this show.

Wait a minute. Wait a minute. And the man suffering from Munchausen syndrome by proxy, old black Raybone, and this is

Gilbert and Frank's amazing colossal obsession. Yes, amazing colossal

obsession. Correct. Very good. That was smooth as silk. That was the half hour, wasn't it?

That was beautiful. Pretty much. Good half hour Wasn't it? That was beautiful Pretty much Good night We also have a special guest with us Our friend Chris DeRose is here Hello Who has helped the show With mucho research

He's been a friend in deed What is that expression? A friend in need? Is a friend in deed Something like that Something like that He has a lovely voice for radio Don't you think Ray Bone? Yes Yes I do he is also a how would you describe yourself you're a

tour guide you're a vip guide yes uh uh studio tour guide which was my first gig at universal studios hollywood uh and then i've graduated up to vip guide um which essentially means in the summer I'll take around a VIP tour. Usually I plan your entire day, deal with families and not only take you through the park, but show you through the studio. And if Gilbert comes with the family, will you show him the Psycho House

and take him around? Have you done that? Have you done that, Gil? Have you done those tours? Do they have on the porch of the Psycho House? Have you done that, Gil? Have you done those tours? Do they have, because it was made by the studio, do they have a Problem Child ride? Oh, God. One of the big franchises.

Yeah. It's right next to Jurassic Park and the Mummy. That's terrifying. All right. Paul, how are you feeling? better than last week but it's been tough it's tough you know every week i heard you were you were going to a specialist well i was until he saw i found out i was part of this podcast and he turned me away dr mabutu gomez's witch doctor we're start here. This interview sounded like when Dangerfield was on Carson. I'm all right now, John. I went to my doctor, Finnegan Butts.

I'm all right now, but last week I was in rough shape. You've got to take care of your health, Johnny. Health is most important. These are some gifts. This one's actually for me, but I'm going to show it to you. Well, fuck whoever sent this. Well, the rare. I get the rare gift.

Usually, I just collect stuff for Gilbert in my office, which is NetABC, which has now become the clearinghouse. But this was pretty cool. This is from a listener named Michael Caruso. And look what he sent. You know what this is? A 45. This is a 45. But look which.45.

It's an original pressing. Can you read the name on the label? He's got to put his glasses on. Oh, shit. Hang on. Frank, how about some syncopated clock while Gilbert finds his glasses? Read the name on that label, son. Monster Mash by Bobby Boris Pickett.

That's the original. And the Crip Kickers. How about that? Wow. How about that? Is that an authenticated original? It is on parrot records. Unbelievable.

Wow. Yes, pretty cool. Thank you very much for that, Michael Caruso. The rare gift that's actually from me. Gilbert, this one's for you. This is from listener Robert Schnakenberg, which I think is a Groucho character. Yeah, I know. Professor Schnackenberg sends this to you.

You can open it on air so that Robert can have the pleasure. Okay. What did he send you? And he has a card that says Schnackenberg. Schnackenberg. A bunch of... Chick tracks. Chick tracks. Chick tracks.

A million of them. Look at that. Oh, my God. You put those in your bike spokes. Oh, my God. I've been reading these like crazy. Gilbert asked how many shows ago. I don't know.

What was that, Frank? Back in nutmeg days. He asked about this mysterious thing that he remembered. In my old neighborhood in brooklyn they used to hand out these like um what do you call this shape uh like a rectangle a rectangle booklet uh and these booklets that were comic books little comic books and uh they would all have like these weird religious things where people would either

accept Jesus or go to hell. Right, and they would always end tragically when somebody had not accepted Jesus. And when you read these if you weren't an atheist to begin with, you'd become them after seeing the ridiculous logic.

So he didn't remember. This was an episode we did with our friend Gary Girani, who I used to work with at Topps Trading Cards. And Gilbert didn't remember the name of these things. Yes, yes. But he put it out to our listeners. And to show you what a loyal, crazed fan base, passionate fan base, people not only named them, but started sending them in droves.

So that's about the sixth or seventh package. Oh, my God. Of those things that you've received. These are great. They make zero sense. Yes. Absolutely no sense. Oh, well, I remember that time I brought up, like, finding, you know,

looking into people's past, and one place said they could find if you had Neanderthal blood. Right. I got about 20 people who tweeted me saying that which groups of people have the most Neanderthal blood? They knew about it. People know too much. Yes. Here's another gift. This comes to you

from a listener who identifies himself as Lord Bloodra. That's all there is on there. Did the dog sniff this one? I had the dog sniff that one. See, that's a Bela Lugosi character. It's two DVDs.

And what's in there? Oh, well, Bela Legosi! There you go. A triple terror collection that has the ape man, look at that, somebody knows you, scared to death,

and the devil bat. There was Lord Bloodra, was it a character? It just sounds like it should be. I thought I missed one. And Lon Chaney Jr. is the other. Indestructible Man.

How about that? Devil's Messenger. And Spider Baby. Thank you, Lord Blood Raw. I believe these people have come up on the show before. Yes. Do these fans know you or what, Gil? Oh, my God.

It's scary. What do you think? Speaking from the fan base, I just want to say that there are now, especially working at Universal, there are a million things I come across almost daily, and I'm like, oh, God, Gil would love this. Well, they just put a, and I was telling you before we turned the mics on, on the lot, they just put up a beautiful brand new monster mural that pays homage to all the classic Universal monsters. Oh, yes, you saw that.

That was on Twitter. Did you see that? Yes, yes. Tristan Eaton is the artist, and he's done art installations all over the world, but Universal commissioned him and said, you know, make this new, make this your own. But if you go to the lot now, there's, I believe it's Bride of Frankenstein, Frankenstein, the Dracula, of course, Creature from the Black Lagoon. They're all on this wall, and they're done so beautifully.

And now, like, everybody's buzzing about it, but I was like, oh, God, Gil would love this. Do you get this on the tour or if you take the world famous Universal Studio Tour you you can

led by see this led by Chris Chris and 150 other guys I would insist that you give it you give it I would love to

Gilbert here's something you're gonna love wow this comes from our friend William Forsh and open that up. Oh, boy. That's pretty bizarre.

I'm scared. That's specific to this show. It's in a bag. It's in a bag. Looks like. This is from Bill Forsh who sends us a lot of cool stuff. Okay, there's a picture of. Oh, geez.

Swifty Lazar. That's a picture of Swifty Lazar wearing giant eyeglasses. Now, is that Candy? It's Candy Bergen. Candy Bergen. I don't know who that is. Maybe Mrs. Swifty. Oh, maybe.

But open the bag. That sounds like an ice cream store. Mrs. Swifty. And he sent you. Oh, I think it's Swifty Lazar glasses. He sent you giant glasses. Oh, my. Frank, somebody sent him the giant glasses.

The giant. Looks like Edith Head. Get it on. I got to get this. Get it on. You get this? He looks like Harry Carey. Yeah.

Hi. This is a, can you get it? This is a gift from Bill Korsh. These would also double as Ed McMahon glasses and the old Dean Martin. Yes, I believe one of them is yours and one of them is mine. So I'll have Frank take a picture later before we get out of here of both of us that we can send to Bill Korsh. How do I look? More like Edith Head. More like Edith Head. of both of us that we can send to Bill Forge. How do I look? More like Edith Head.

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All new episodes of FX's The Bear are streaming June 27, only on Disney+. And the last gift... Oh, these are great. Oh, wait. He also sent... Yeah, this is the next gift from William.

But I also want to shout out Patrick Bodale, our friend Patrick, who sent Dara a gift. He didn't want to leave Dara out Patrick, who sent Dara a gift. He didn't want to leave Dara out, so he sent Dara a very interesting gift that Dara opened moments ago. She had to run out to a movie, but it is a soap-making kit. Where he got the idea that you were into soap. Who knows?

And so this is those tiny pieces of soap. Yeah. When it can no longer be used in a bathtub, you scrape it up and it makes a new soap out of old tiny pieces. Yes. So these are very, very specific gifts that these gifts. See, I just push them together with my hand. I let them sit overnight and then it's one big burr. We're actually going to get to a mini episode topic, but we're going to fly through these. And this is the last gift, Gil. I can't wait.

This is also from Bill Forge, and I think Chris DeRose will get a kick out of that one, too. Oh, boy. Open it up. Oh, it's a life mask, a miniature. And I'm going to say that's, is this Buster Keaton? I believe it is. Look on the back.

It's got something on the back. I believe it is. Look on the back. It's got something on the back. I believe it is. John Carradine. John Carradine. John Carradine. Oh! Close, close. That's what you said.

Didn't I say John Carradine? The very funny John Carradine. The other stone face. Oh, see, now, now I can see it. Yeah. Yeah. This is John Carradine

like around the time when he did the howling. There you go. It's a miniature life mask. Is that a magnet? Is there a magnet on the back? You can put that on your fridge. Oh, I hope so. Don't put it near the mic.

It's like Ebenezer Scrooge's door knocker. And Bill also sent this for Paul Raybone. And I think that's toward your treatment. That's a dollar. This is the second gift I've received of $1. I'm trying to understand what that means. He sent something for Frank, too, which Frank is telling me I keep claiming that I have. But it's in my office, and I'll bring it to the next mini.

So thank you, Michael Caruso, Robert Schnakenberg, Bill Forsh, Patrick Bodale, and of course, Lord Bloodra. And Bill. I said Bill. I said Bill Forsh. Quickly, quickly, our friend John Fotiadis, who Gilbert likes to refer to as Tom Fokiakis. Yes. And John, I know you're listening, said, hey, you know, Gilbert, Al Lewis comes up a lot on the show. Beverly Owen just passed away, the original Marilyn Munster.

Oh, yeah. And we had John Astin. Yeah. A couple of weeks ago. He said, why don't you do a Munsters versus Adams family episode? Okay. And I said, I think Gil would go for that. Sure.

So I had Ray Byrne or Ray Bone do a little research. And what can you tell us, Paulie, before I read my notes? Well, the two shows, oddly enough, ran for exactly the same time. They debuted the same week in 1964. Ran for two years and were canceled at the same time. Both canceled in 66. And so there are any number of things on the web which want you to comment on which you prefer Munsters vs. The Atoms

seems to be like the Ginger or Marianne or you know it was funny around that time period they would have identical shows opposite each other like I Dream of Jeannie and Bewitched

were they on opposite each other they were also i think like right around they debuted right around the same time my favorite martian uh i dream of genie bewitched and there were one or two others all sort of supernatural my mother the car and opposite each other were uh captain nice and mr terrific yeah which buck buck henry uh is still mad about that because he was the creator of Captain Nice, and he claims, which was on NBC, and then CBS came up with Mr. Terrific,

which he said was Dirty Pool when we had him on the show. But they were both an answer to ABC's Batman, which was a sensation in 66. But let's talk a little bit quickly about Adam's family and the Munsters and a couple of things we didn't get to when we had John Astin here. Like Paul said, both debuted, what, September 18th was the Adams family in 64, right? On ABC. And the Munsters premiered on the 24th on CBS,

created by Alan Burns and Chris Hayward. Alan Burns is still around. Oh. Also one of the creators of the Mary Tyler Moore Show. Wow. There's a different flavor. We can see if we can find him. Shot in black and white.

Did you find this, Paul? Because the studio didn't want to pay an extra 10 grand. No, I didn't find it. For episodes to shoot in color. It's better in black and white. Yes. Because it matched the old Monster movie. Well, they made that movie, Monster, go home in color.

Yes. Which is a little strange. So this is one thing that I wondered about that came up. I don't know if among the group here we have an expert on the early universal horror films. We just might. And the monster house. The monsters were supposedly inspired by those movies. Chris, do you know this backstory?

I'm not sure I could see that. Well, it's Frankenstein, Dracula, the Wolfman. But the Addams Family has some of the same or similar characters too. Well, the Addams Family was based on a cartoon. That was based on a cartoon of the New Yorkers. I don't remember which. I saw a documentary at some point back when I started at Universal. And I think it was Add's Family got greenlit,

and then CBS was like, we need a monster show. Supposedly, Lou Wasserman, who was running Universal, said, we have these characters licensed. How can we exploit them for television? Exactly. And there was a treatment written. And just about that time, we're talking 64, or 63 probably is when it was in development. The monsters, the universal monsters, the last great universal monster movie was probably what?

Creature from the Black Lagoon? That was what, 53, 54? It had been a while. It had been a while. Over a decade, yeah. And everybody was going for it. I remember. Excited about it at one point they were advertising this movie as the next big classic monster that

was the commercials and it was the incredible melting man who was in that i don't know there was like a guy with goo jerking on his face that he was an astronaut and he got some kind of rare space disease i've heard of the film and he was melting yeah i've heard of the film so he was the next classic uh to be there with frankenstein the wolf man so that is the story i mean they had these had these characters, and they said, well, what can we do with this? It was developed by two writers named Norm Liebman and Ed Haas, but what I found in my research was they threw a lot of writers at this thing before they basically landed on something they wanted. And you can tell us about the Munster House.

Well, the Munster House... Which is on the lot. It's still on the Universal lot. And actually, it's on what we call Colonial Street on the back lot. But if you were an ABC's Desperate Housewives fan, you would know it as Wisteria Lane. There you go.

And it was actually used not only on Wisteria Lane or Desperate Housewives, but it's been used in any number of shows. I was just watching a couple months ago. I was watching Super Troopers 2, and the very end of Super Troopers 2, they do a whole scene on Colonial Street, and the whole backdrop, they're supposed to be in just a suburban neighborhood, but they're standing in front of the old Munster House.

If you saw it today and you didn't have somebody like me pointing it out to you, you probably wouldn't know that it's the Munster House, pointing it out to you, you probably wouldn't know that it's the Munster house. But the house was originally built for a movie called So Goes My Love, which was 1946, I believe. That sounds right. Yeah. So they actually built that house and subsequently the Harvey house,

Jimmy Stewart's Harvey house. They were both built for that movie. They were both put in Soundstage 12, which, again, if you're taking the tour, the first thing you see when you enter the lot is the oldest and largest soundstage on property, and that is Soundstage number 12. Subsequently, Jurassic Park, that's where the Visitor Center was, that's

where Tony Montana's mansion was, the interiors for Scarface. That's cool. The interior of the clock tower in Back to the Future. Frankenstein's Lab, Dracula's Castle were all in Soundstage 12. So Goes My Love, nobody knows it anymore. I hadn't heard of it until today, until I started doing the research. It's a forgettable film, but after that movie, they moved, and the lot has changed a bit, but they moved those houses out onto the lot, and were using them

basically as shelves and facades. And then in 64, that's when they turned it into the Munster house, and another movie that I love that was right around that time, and if you ever watch it, is Don Knotts' Ghost and

Mr. Chicken. Oh, it was the same house. It wasn't the same. They used the Harvey house. Oh, they used the Harvey house. But you can see, if you look closely, because it's all on that street. Now I got to watch it again. They're shooting around the Munster house

because the Munster house is basically dressed and ready to go to be the Munster house. But the Ghost in Mr. Chicken house is the Harvey house. I got to watch that. Dana Gould's favorite movie. I'm not sure if this is true, but I always heard that Sammy Petrillo, the freakish Jerry Lewis clone from Duke Manty and Sammy Petrillo.

Duke Mitchell. Duke Mitchell. Duke Manty was Humphrey Bogart. Humphrey Bogart and High Sierra. No, Duke Mitchell and Sammy Petrillo, who was the zero-budget Martin and Lewis. Yeah, no frills. And that Sammy Petrillo wrote a pilot called My Father the Monster. Oh, I know this story.

And it became the monster. He claimed it. He claimed they ripped him off. Which I think he might be full of shit, but I don't know. Was the house used in 46 for Abbott and Costello

and Meet the Invisible Man? Because that's what I found. I have... And Jerry Lewis's Rockabye Baby. And Meet the Invisible Man in 1951. Could that be right?

Oh, yeah, built in 46. I got the wrong year. Built in 46, and then yes, you got the year right. The house was also seen in 1958 in Jerry Lewis's Rockabye Baby. But, you know, that checks out. They also used, again, because they're almost a pair, the Harvey House. I call it lovingly the Harvey House. And there is some story, and I've never been able to,

I'd have to check with Norm, who's kind of my boss, who's also our historian, our go-to guy for... Obscure. Well, we'll come off the tour route and just be like, Norm, I got a question about Leonard Nimoy and his being on the lot. Oh, he's the guy. Yeah, and he's like, okay, let's sit down. Let's talk about it.

Also, I remember on the Munsters, at one point, one of their relatives, the creature of the Black Lagoon, shows up. Oh, yeah, I was going to ask you about that. And do you remember what his name was? Oh boy. No, I don't know this. Uncle Gilbert.

Gil, get it? Gil. Yeah. The Gil man. I was very, but the only old horror actor,

this drove me crazy with the Munsters. Well, Carradine was Herman's boss. Yeah, John Carradine, only one. And I figure, Karloff was alive, and Lon Chaney Jr. was alive.

They might have turned it down. Yeah, I don't think Lon Chaney Jr. would have turned it down. He needed the work. I'll tell you who was almost cast, and this has a podcast connection, if this isn't bullshit, and this is what I found, Billy Moomy. Because Lost in Space did not did not premiere until 65

and that Billy Moomy auditioned for the role of Eddie but his parents disapproved of the makeup and want to put him in all that makeup if we get Billy back

we'll ask him that and Billy Moomy was a Jew we found out oh he still is a Jew still still alive that's the most

important information Billy Moomy if you're still out there if you're still alive, you're a Jew. A little bit about the Addams Family, too. We had Aston here. Did you hear that show, Chris? I love that show.

Wasn't he great? Yeah, he was fantastic. And I've had interactions with his son, Sean, who's an amazing guy. Lovely guy. They made it happen. They really did. Sean and Mackenzie, they got him here for us. Absolutely.

an amazing guy. Lovely guy. They made it happen. They really did. Sean and Mackenzie. They got him here for us. Absolutely. I've gotten so many things on the internet. How much they love John Ashley. I think it's our most popular episode in a long time. What I found is they were using recycled

sets from the movie The Unsinkable Molly Brown. Oh! For the Addams Family set. With Debbie Reynolds. Shot by the company Filmways on what is now sunset, Las Palmas studios created by a guy named David Levy, which is the story that John told on the show, formerly an ad man and developed by Matt, Nat Perrin of the Mark's brother's fame,

not Matt Perrin, as I just called him Nat Perrin. Well, he never actually did he? Oh, Nat Perrin. Nat Perrin. Yeah. And as we talked about extensively with John, they were the first

TV family to imply that they had an active sex life. Although, I was doing the research today, and it turns out in 64 episodes... The Munsters shared a bed. Yes. No other TV couple shared a bed until

the Munsters. Lucy and Ricky were always separated. They always had twin beds. There's a lot of, I don't know if anybody was in bed. Dick Van Dyken and his wife. Twin beds. In the Addams family, there's a lot of interaction between

John Astin and Which some of it was real. They really had the hots for each other, but he said, made a decision to keep it professional. They never actually kissed on the... I would have fucked her. You would have fucked Grandmama. I would have fucked Pugsley.

Why didn't they just call him Weatherwax? Okay, Weatherwax. An interesting universal connection to Adam's family, if you take the VIP tour that I can also lead you on. We go into our properties department, and we're the only way anybody who's not in the industry can get into the properties department. properties department, the, oh gosh, what is it called? The Iron Maiden that sat in Wednesday's room is one of the oldest props in the properties department. And unless it's still, sometimes it gets rented out, as most props do, you can actually see it and stand in it.

And it was also used in Abbott and Costello meet Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. No kidding. And you'd have to ask me or one of the guides to point it out to you, but and it's a little worse for wear. I really hope they restore it, but Grandpa Munster's organ I beg your pardon?

It's very much the worst for wear. The man died in the 90s. They have it wrapped up in aluminum foil. The musical instrument he played on. Forgive me. Forgive me. That is also in the property's department.

Well, we got to get there. Exactly. Is there much call for an Iron Maiden, by the way? Do people come and rent them often? You know, parties? Every once in a blue moon, you'll see a Hold sticker on it. And I'm like, oh, God, who's using the old Iron Maiden? Yeah.

I believe they also used it when they did the Addams Family movies. I think it's in the Addams Family movies. I love those movies. Quick trivia. John Astin shows the name Gomez over the name Rappelli. Ah. They gave them the choice of what they wanted to name their characters because the characters in the New Yorker cartoons did not havelli. Ah. They gave them the choice of what they wanted to name their characters because the characters in the New Yorker cartoons

did not have names. Ah. As we pointed out with John, Pugsley was originally named Pubert, but they thought it sounded too sexual. Oh, puberty. Yeah. And this,

Nat Perrin provided the voice of Cousin It. Yeah. And Felix Silla is still around, the guy who was wearing that Cousin It costume. Filmways did not want to pay singers, so composer Vic Mizzi sang the song in three different voices. Vic Mizzi?

Vic Mizzi. Vic Mizzi, who also wrote what great television theme song? Why? Green Acres. You sure bet. He sure did. Oh, wow. He sure did.

I got to meet Vic a couple of times because he was a friar before he passed away. That's amazing. Quickly, some trivia. Okay, Gilbert. Uh-oh. As we go out, we're going to try to stump you. Gilbert's nervous. Quickly.

I know Frank will add some quiz music to this later in post. What was Gomez's occupation? Anybody? Chris? Raybone? Nothing. An optometrist came to mind, but I don't. Gomez's occupation. Anybody? Chris? Raybone? An optometrist came to mind, but I don't think... I know Herman was an undertaker. Yes, he sure was.

He was a gravedigger. Gomez was a lawyer. He was a shyster lawyer. I can see that. What was Morticia's maiden name? Jesus. It was Frump. Wow.

And Margaret Hamilton, who we talked about last week, guest starred on the show as Granny Frump. She was a lesbian. Yes. Let's point it out. I don't have that on the card. Yes. The show was all about that. In the credits.

In the credits, they say, in parenthesis, she's a lesbian. Yeah. Yes. Bruce Valanche described her as a lesbian. What was the Addams Family home address? Oh, I don't know. Anybody? Any takers? 001 Cemetery Lane. Oh, I should have got ahead of that.

And this is a layup for you, Gilbert. What was the name of Wednesday's beloved doll? Oh. I'll give you a hint. It was missing a head. Our listeners are screaming. I've seen the doll. Marie Antoinette.

And quickly, Munsters, who provided the uncredited voice of the raven on the wall that went, Nevermore! Remember the raven that was like a cuckoo clock? It wasn't the guy from Citizen Kane. Everett Sloan? No.

It was Mel Blank. Mel Blank. Uncredited. And later an actor named Bob Hastings. Unbelievable. It was on McHale's Navy. Mel Blank. Nevermore.

Did we talk about the address of the Munster's house? It's on my list. Okay. What was Herman and Lily's home address? Well, Mockingbird Lane, but I don't know. 13. 13. Mockingbird Lane.

The tour guide knows. Well, it's the first stop on the Universal Tour in 64. What was the name? Here's a counterpart question. What was the name of Eddie's beloved doll? We talked to Butch about it. Wolfie? Wolfie.

Wolf Wolf. Very good. Or Wolfie. And yes, when he was on the show, when Butch Patrick was on the podcast, he said he made up a bunch, he had a company make a bunch of extra Wolf Wolf dolls that he would sell by mail and he would buy drugs. That's a true story. It's true.

Sad but true. He's the only one left, right, from the cast. He's the true story. It's true. Sad but true. He's the only one left, right, from the cast. He's the only cast member left. Wow. Well, Pat Priest,

the second Marilyn, is still with us. Okay, Gilbert, last one. Which two beloved, and one of them is oft talked about

on this show, character actors, comedic character actors played the family physician Dr. Dudley? Ooh. Not, not, not, I remember Louis Nye

being on one of those. Louis Nye was Zombo. He was Eddie's hero, monster hero. Oh, okay. But the doctor was played by, one was Dom DeLuise.

Oh. And the second one would have said, this place smells like, I don't know, ether? Paul Lynn! This place smells like cunt. Paul Lynn was Dr. Dudley on the Munsters.

Last question. I lied. Which legendary comic or what legendary comic appeared on both shows? We lost him recently. One of the great iconic stand-ups of all time. Gentlemen, you want to take a guess? Don Rickles? That is correct!

That's right! For the win. Wow. So one other little nut. We talked about how the monsters try to recap the universal monsters. But the producer, writer-producer David Levy said he wanted to capture the flavor of the old Marx Brothers films.

Yes, that's why he hired Nat Perrin. That's it. Thank you for that anticlimactic note. Yes. That killed the entire show. The show was flowing along too well. I was going to say I don't know if this takes us out on a better note.

It has to be better than my shot. America's Dad, Tom Hanks, actually has been on our Colonial Street several times. One of the classic movies that we all love as tour guides, The Burbs. Oh, yeah. Hinkley Hills and The Burbs. That's the entire Colonial Street. The Munster House is Corey Feldman's house. His next-door neighbor in that movie, a podcast guest.

God, I'm blanking on his name. Dern. Yeah, Bruce Dern. Bruce Dern is his neighbor in the movie. So when Bruce Dern falls off of the roof in the Burbs, Corey Feldman jumps off of the porch of the Munster house and runs up to like, he's like, oh man, are you all right? We all saw that.

Oh, wow. So it's in more movies than you think. And again, it doesn't look anything like it used to. But the one thing I wanted to tell you, and this might be more for the old Harvey house, there is tell that part of the Harvey house and maybe part of the Munster house, because they've changed so much, the cupola was actually taken and used to build the Psycho house. That's cool. Which is also still on the lot, the original Psycho house.

That's very cool. Don't quote me on that, but it's one of the two houses. On the set of the monsters, did Paul Lynn ever say hey Eddie monster, come here and bounce on my lap. He might have made a better Zombo. Quickly before we go, and I hate to do this

because it's nonsensical, but if you had to pick since people pitch one show against the other, pit one show against the other. Chris. I'm going to tow the company line. Munsters. Munsters. Paul. I'm going to go with the Addams Family.

Gil. All apologies to John Ashton. You were one of our greatest guests, but I was a Munsters fan. I adore them both, and Al Lewis makes life worth living. But I'm going to pick the Addams Family. It's a tie. So we'll throw this out to the listeners. We'll have Frank cast the deciding

vote. Frank? Is it a tough one? We're out of time. I'm going to go with... I think I got to go with Addams Family got to go with Adam's family alright sucking up to the Astons

alright Gilly we'll put that out to our listeners any preferences post them or post any fun trivia you have about either show thank you John Fokiakis and this has been Gilbert Godfrey Gilbert and Frank

did you just mispronounce your own name? I did. I did. It's gotten to that point already. It's like, give Gilbert his cocoa and put him to sleep. Thank you, gents. Thank you, guys. Thank you for doing the show and all you do.

Thank you, Chris. Really. Did you sign off? You're too kind. Did you sign off? This has been Gilbert and Frank's Amazing Colossal Obsessions. I feel better already. Bye-bye.