Gilbert Gottfried's Amazing Colossal Podcast - Mini-Ep #96: In Memoriam 2016: Music

Episode Date: January 26, 2017

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Starting point is 00:01:32 is here with us again. Now what happened is and the reason for this mini episode is we ran out of time while we were doing our In Memoriam. Oh, yeah. We were doing 2016 In Memoriam. We had so many people pass and so many people that we talked about. We didn't want to give the musicians who passed this year short shrift.
Starting point is 00:01:50 So we're doing it. That was a porn film. Yes. You were in that, weren't you? Yes. You played short. Yes. It was autobiographical.
Starting point is 00:02:06 So. These are the giddiest in memoriam We wanted to give the musicians and the singers who passed this year Since this show is so much about music Yes And the musicality of Mr. Gottfried That we wanted to give them their due So we're going to do a little mini episode We have a call out to Jimi Hendrix.
Starting point is 00:02:27 No rush. Yeah. Where do you want to start? I mean, obviously people like David Bowie and Prince and George Michael, icons and people who've been talked about a lot. Well, you know what? Paul Kantner. Paul Kantner from Jefferson Airplane.
Starting point is 00:02:45 He's not on the level of David Bowie and Brinson, but that was an iconic band. Certainly. Jefferson Airplane. Certainly. And he also stayed around for Jefferson Starship. He was in both versions, Paul Kantner. He was in both versions, and there was actually harsh words about who could use the word Jefferson and who had rights and who didn't. But he also, they, well, then they became Starship.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Jefferson Starship. Without the Jefferson. Right. Yeah. That's right. And then there was Wheezy Jefferson Starship. Obscure touring band. Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:18 But they also played with Crosby, Stills and Nash. And he and Steve Stills and David Crosby wrote Wooden Ships. I love that song. Great song. Yeah. Great song. Big talent, Paul Cantner.
Starting point is 00:03:30 You know, it's interesting because these are some of the founding members of rock and roll, American rock and roll. I know. And yet a lot of their great songs, like Wooden Ships, are really kind of folky. A lot of them are. Very melodic. Yeah. We got to get David Crosby on this show.
Starting point is 00:03:43 We talked about it. Our friend John Fugel sang. Tied with him. And my kids were born with David Crosby's sperm. Really? Yes. I don't think we've discussed that. About that.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Yeah. Wow. Right. And Melissa Etheridge's eggs. Yes. Amazing. Darren, did you know that? I want to say a couple of things about David Bowie as an actor.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Yeah. You know, and about pictures like The Man Who Fell to Earth. Oh, and The Hunger. And The Hunger. And he turns up in the prestige Christopher Nolan film that I like a lot. You know, Labyrinth the Henson picture you know a versatile talent a pioneer
Starting point is 00:04:30 in so many ways I mean a lot has been said I don't know what else we can add well I can add this is ground control you really made the grade. And the papers want to know what shoes you wear. Tell my wife I love her very much.
Starting point is 00:04:58 You combined two verses there. Yes. That's why you ran into that rhyme problem. And I write in the boy, this is space control, the major person, and they really do that boy. This is a backhanded tribute to David Bowie, if ever there was one. Well, you know, in his will, he said, I want Gilbert Gottfried to sing my song. Did he say that?
Starting point is 00:05:29 Really? Did you eulogize him, too, the way you did Abe Vigoda? I didn't see your picture at the Bowie ceremony. Let me ask you this about David Bowie. I have to say, I did interview his son. David Bowie's son? Duncan Jones, when he did a film called Moon. It was actually for Science Friday on NPR at the time.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Is that the one with Sam Rockwell? Yeah. Yeah. Which was pretty good. Although we have to question that video with him and Mick Jagger. Oh, Dancing in the Streets? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:02 That was a little on the weird side. Excuse me. Gilbert, you're calling somebody weird? Yes. Yes. How about the one with Bing Crosby? Oh, my God. The little drummer boy.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Yes. They show you how far back David Bowie goes and how long he's been famous. That's actually very, that's a very sweet little duet they do, which is surprising from Bowie. I'd also like to direct people to an episode of Ricky Gervais' show, Extras. I don't know if you guys watched that show. I've watched that. Was Bowie in that? There's a Bowie bit that is, you know the one I'm talking about?
Starting point is 00:06:36 Oh, absolutely. The chubby little fat man? There is a Bowie part, a small part on Extras that has to be seen. Chubby little loser, national joke. No, not chubby little loser. No. Pathetic little fat man, no one's bloody laughing.
Starting point is 00:06:56 The clown that no one laughs at, they all just wish he'd die. He's so depressed at being useless, the fat man takes his own life. No, no. He's so depressed at being hated, fatty takes his own life. Fatty, fatso. Fatso, I like fatso.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Yeah, let's go with fatso. Fatso takes his own life, he blows his bloated face off. No. He blows his bloated face off. No. He blows his stupid brains out. But that's what I'd probably miss. Yes, Linda, I like that. Yeah, so do I.
Starting point is 00:07:33 It's brilliant, Linda. He sold his soul for a shot at fame. That whole short run of extras is a great, that was a great show. A wonderful show. I mean, I don't know what to say about Prince, what say about david bowie i mean shocking uh great artists um you want to talk a little bit about leonard cohen leonard cohen was a guy i really grew up with gilbert has not yelled jew and we are 30 seconds into this jew when i i was and uh david bowie's agent, Jew. And Prince's agent, Jew.
Starting point is 00:08:16 I had Leonard Cohen's first album. And I learned to play Suzanne on the guitar. And I was completely wrapped up with him. And I have to say I lost touch to a certain extent. And he sort of disappeared for a while. Yeah. But then made really a spectacular comeback in the last few years. Great artist. And I discovered him late too.
Starting point is 00:08:33 If you're at all interested in Leonard Cohen, you must read the New Yorker profile that David Remnick wrote just a few weeks before he died, which was spectacular. And he put out a new album too recently? He put out a new album, but he was reading the Jewish mystical works. He was very spiritual, not in a religious way, but in a spiritual way. I discovered him late. Yeah. Yeah, great talent. Wonderful songwriter.
Starting point is 00:09:01 He was fucking someone famous, wasn't he? Francis Bobbier. He was fucking someone famous, wasn't he? Francis Bombier. There was a documentary. I thought it was Floyd. Yeah, yeah. One of his songs, he says. I thought it was George Lindsay.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Be Benederick. I'm sorry, Paul. No, that's okay. One of his songs, there's a line that says, giving me head on the unmade bed. And about five or six or seven years ago, there was a documentary about him, which he participated in extensively. And he said, yes, he says, that was actually, the press broke that that was Janis Joplin. I really didn't want people to know that that was Janis Joplin. Oh, there you go, Bill.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Ah! Janis Joplin. And he so badly wanted people not to know that it was Janis Joplin. Oh, there you go, Bill. Janis Joplin. And he so badly wanted people not to know that it was Janis Joplin that he said her name about 10 times. That's funny. But there was like a more recent one than that. One of our listeners. We'll put it out.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Yeah. Yeah. This is how you eulogize the man. Who was he putting the stones to at the end? Let me say a couple of words, too, about Leon Russell. Leon Russell. Well, but before, Prince wanted me to say. Raspberry parade.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Oh, my God. The kind you find in a chicken hand store. Raspberry puree. I think I love her. That's beautiful. Wow. So Prince really hasn't died. He's really...
Starting point is 00:10:36 Now he has. Now he has. How about when you were mine? Can I do Prince requests? You know, I'll tell you, unlike all these others with Prince, we will be hearing new songs and new albums probably for the next 50 years. He's a genius, and I saw him live several times. He can get stuff locked away.
Starting point is 00:10:55 These guys are, I mean, it's a word that's thrown around. I think for Leonard Cohen, Prince, and Bowie, the word applies. Yeah. Three musical geniuses. And Leon Russell wrote one of my favorite songs, one of my favorite love songs. I put it up on Facebook. Song for you. Song for you.
Starting point is 00:11:12 I've been so many places. Can I sing? Just you. In my life and time. You know, I've sung a lot of songs. I made some bad rhymes. Look at him go. I've acted out my life on stages
Starting point is 00:11:27 with 10,000 people watching. But we're alone now and I'm singing this song for you. That was a beautiful song. It was. You know how some songs that are turned into commercial jingles and it ruins your appreciation of the song?
Starting point is 00:11:44 That just happened. Like a rubberneck giraffe. Oh, that's another great one. It's a test into your path. Well, maybe I'm just too blind to see. Up on the high wire. What is that called? I think it's called tightrope.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Tightrope. Yeah. The other one, of course, is Masquerade. He's great. He's a great artist. course, is Masquerade. He's great. He's a great artist. Do you know Masquerade? Oh, yeah. Are we really here?
Starting point is 00:12:09 Da-da-da, it's lonely. Something like that. Covered by George Benson made that song famous. Yeah, that's right. But song for you, there's a Ray Charles version that will absolutely tear your heart out. He also wrote a great Carpenter song, Superstar. Oh, that's right. That's right.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Don't you remember you told me you loved me baby. I didn't know he wrote that. Baby, baby, baby, oh baby, I love you. We're taking the musicians who've died and putting their songs to rest with them. I may erase the word tribute from this episode. I'll say this. I'll say this. The Carpenters use the best songw this episode. I'll say this. I'll say this. The Carpenters used the best songwriters available.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Oh, my God, yes. Mr. Williams and Mr. Russell. Well, Richard wrote a lot of those songs, too. He did. And Mr. Bacharach. Yeah. Yeah, they didn't slouch. Yeah, by Richard, he means Richard Ramtree.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Boy, there's a guy we got to get. Richard Roundtree. Speaking of Paul Williams, who I just brought up, I want to mention Paul's brother, late brother, Mentor Williams, who we talked about on a previous show, who wrote another terrific song, Dobie Gray's Drift Away. Yeah. That is a good song.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Yeah, another talented man who we lost. Now, here's a segue for you. This man's real name was Paul Williams. Oh, my God. Yep. Listen to that mood. That's a great mood. I love this song more than life itself.
Starting point is 00:13:47 How about that? Gilbert is grooving. I wish you could see this. He's got the phones on. Me! Mrs. Jones! Mrs. Jones! Mrs. Jones! Mrs. Jones!
Starting point is 00:14:03 We got a thing going on. Billy Paul. Well, that was another beautiful song. Yes. Yeah, but you'll smile when you hear these. You'll think of this, and you'll think of Gilbert, and it'll bring you a new joy. And you'll really appreciate the songs. Next time you jerk off, you'll think of me.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Billy Paul served in the Army with Elvis. And his name was Paul Williams? His real name was Paul Williams. Yeah. Philadelphia International Records. Oh, that was a hit. The Philadelphia sound. Yeah, Philadelphia International Records. The Philadelphia sound. Yeah, he was a Philly guy, and that was 1972. I love that song.
Starting point is 00:14:54 How would Hervey Villachaz do it, Gil? Hey, hey, Mrs. John, Mr. John, Mrs. Jones, Mrs. Jones. We got to sing. Go ahead, ma. That actually makes Gilbert's version sound good. Oh, my God. The thought of Herbie Villachaz singing me and Mrs. Jones. How about the great Maurice White of Earth, Wind & Fire?
Starting point is 00:15:29 That was another band that really created a sound. They're original. Entirely original. And as a songwriter, I mean, sing a song in September and Shining Star. And I'm looking out of the corner of my eye hoping Gilbert doesn't know anything. I love earth, wind, and fire. Let's see here. We talked about Paul Kantner and Jefferson Airplane and Starship.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Here's one that was very sad and very shocking, and I had just seen the man live um maybe maybe half a year ago uh the Eagles Glenn Fry passed away yeah young man yeah and he apparently suffered from from um a rheumatoid arthritis and the medication affected his his uh his digestive system and and and messed him up seriously and uh who knew I mean mean, who knew he was ill? A musician getting arthritis seems somehow particularly tragic. Or that it would kill him. They need their fingers. They need their hands.
Starting point is 00:16:33 I saw them at the garden not long ago. He would be on Miami Vice. Sure. And he wrote songs. What was the song about the city? Smuggler's Blues. Oh, you belong to the city. You belong to the city.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Yeah. I like Smuggler's Blues. Yeah, Smuggler's Blues is another good one. But those songs with the Eagles, I mean, that's the sound. The Eagles are one of the sounds of our generation. I think they're still, aren't they still the leader in album sales? The Eagles, they have. Quite possibly.
Starting point is 00:16:58 I saw them at the Garden about a year and a half ago, and they were wonderful. Yeah. And that was tragic and sudden. And here we go. We'll switch this up. Who sang Hotel California? That was them, but it was Henley's vocal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Don Henley. Welcome to the Hotel California. He wasn't asking Sarah. What a nice surprise. With your alibis. Mirrors on the ceiling. Pink champagne on ice. He remembers every word.
Starting point is 00:17:33 And she said, we are all just prisoners here of our own device. In the master chambers. Look at him go. We are ready for the feast. We stick them with our steely knives, but we just can't kill the beast. That's it. I was going to print up some lyrics, but obviously there's no need for that at all. Terrific album, Hotel California.
Starting point is 00:18:02 There's a song on there called The Last Resort. Gilbert's album was a terrific album. Gilbert's album is also great. I used to cut it off the Alphabets box. Do you remember the cereal? The albums? The singles you could cut off cereal boxes? Oh my god, yes! And you'd put them on your turntable.
Starting point is 00:18:17 You would play about three times. Kill your needle. There's a song on the Hotel California album called The Last Resort that makes me weep. Beautiful's a song on the Hotel California album called The Last Resort that makes me weep. Beautiful, sad song. Switch. Oh, I got a question for you about Hotel California.
Starting point is 00:18:32 What band is referenced in Hotel California as a sort of a, as a sort of, what other band is sort of referenced in that song as a kind of an in-joke? Oh, Mamas and the Papas? No, you just sang the lyric. You just sang a lyric that contained a part of their name. Steely Dan. Wow. Steely Dan. What was the lyric? Steely Knives.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Stab it with their steely knives, but they just can't kill the beast. And there's a Steely Dan song, and of course our listeners will jump on this, that I've forgotten that mentions the Eagles. So there you go. There was a, you can find it now. There was a tit for tat kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:19:09 I think it was respectful but, um, despite what the dude says about the Eagles and the Big Lebowski when he disses them and when his,
Starting point is 00:19:18 when his, uh, I hate the fucking Eagles I believe is the exact quote. I, I am a fan. Yeah. I am a fan. Yeah. I like them too.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Let's see here. Talk about changing up. Let's do a big turn here to Marnie Nixon. Oh, she was the voice, among a million others, the voice of Natalie Wood in West Side Story. She sure was. She was also the voice of Audrey Hepburn in My Fair Lady. That's right. And many, many other things.
Starting point is 00:19:49 She died at 86. She was the voice of Ingrid Bergman. She was the voice of Deborah Carr. She was the voice of Sophia Loren. She was the voice of Marilyn Monroe, I think, in Gentlemen Prefer Blinds. And married to Ernest Gold, a film composer. And I think. Oh, no.
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Starting point is 00:20:53 You were a roller skater. You're going to show me later. Turn up the eagles. The neighbors are listening. There you go. So I don't, it's a little fun trivia. A little fun trivia.
Starting point is 00:21:01 I don't know which one came first, but they were a nod to each other. Let's talk a little bit more about Marnie Nixon. Her son was Andrew Gold. Thank you for being a friend. Oh, my God. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:21:14 And Lonely Boy. Oh, what a lonely. See, now I'm going to kill her. Drive our listeners away from her. I didn't find out about Marnie Nixon until after she was Marnie Nixon for a while, and I was shocked to discover that Natalie Wood couldn't sing.
Starting point is 00:21:28 You thought that was Natalie? I thought that was... I was young, you know. It never occurred to me that, you know, they would have... Why wouldn't they hire an actress who could sing?
Starting point is 00:21:36 You know? Imagine being afraid of you. You see? I see you. Oh, Maria, see only me. Only you. You! Only you.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Everything I'll see forever. But doesn't she sound like Natalie Wood? She sounds like Julie Andrews. She sounds like Audrey Hepburn in My Fair Lady. Yeah, yeah. But you ever. And there's nothing only you. That was part of the skill, was to be able to fit her voice to the voices of the people she was seeing.
Starting point is 00:22:09 She's a great talent. It's a talent. Yeah. It's a special talent. I'm glad that she finally got the recognition that she didn't have. Well, because she recorded as herself. She had a career as Marnie Nixon, and you can get her records, and she's on iTunes. A great talent, a musical family.
Starting point is 00:22:25 She was everybody else's voice. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. What do you call it, a ghost singer? Oh, yes. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:32 And her son had pop songs. Her son was a contemporary of Linda Ronstadt's and worked with her and wrote that song that was later used as the Golden Girls theme. Which was that? Thank You for Being a Friend. Oh. Andrew Gold. Yeah. He pre-deceased her, as they say.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Here's one Gilbert will love. But I defy him to come up with a song that is actually by this artist. We lost Julius La Rosa. Oh, my God. Brooklyn Zone. Yeah, who Arthur Godfrey. Yeah, that's on his tombstone, right who Arthur Godfrey. Yeah. That'll be on his, that's on his tombstone, right? Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:23:07 That Arthur Godfrey fired him. Because Arthur Godfrey was, you know, when he was on the radio, he was, who, who, how are you, how are you? And everyone thought, oh, he's the nicest guy in the world. And he was a complete scumbag. And an anti-Semite, as you pointed out. Oh, a major league anti-Semite. Fired on the air. Yeah. Fired him. Yeah. F pointed out major league anti-semite fired on the air
Starting point is 00:23:25 yeah fired him yeah fired him on the air fired him on the air yeah yeah just to humiliate him yeah yeah and look up the reason as long as we're i researched it but i've in the in the let me see what i can in the haze of all the the research i've been doing i forgot but i and then he and then sullivan hired larosa yeah and ed sullivan picked him up yeah and started using And then Sullivan hired La Rosa. Yeah. And Sullivan picked him up and started using him. And that started a feud between Godfrey and Sullivan. Oh. Which is interesting.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Yes. But I don't recall the reason that he actually fired him. But La Rosa was quoted later in life as saying Arthur Godfrey was not a nice man. Which is apparently an understatement. Why don't we do a whole show devoted to bastards? Oh, my God, yes. Just people who have terrible reputations. Arthur Godfrey, there was a character actor, Eugene Paulette.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Eugene Paulette was not liked? Oh, my God. I love Eugene Paulette. Total scumbag. Eugene Paulette. Yes. They used to call him Froggy. Yeah, Eugene Paulette. This scumbag. Eugene Paulette. Yes. They used to call him Froggy. Yeah, Eugene Paulette.
Starting point is 00:24:26 Yeah. This is a complicated mess here. It goes on for pages, but the gist of it seems to be Godfrey told La Rosa he didn't need an agent. Does this ring a bell at all? Yeah. And La Rosa, so he didn't have an agent and he didn't have anybody negotiate on his behalf. Then finally he went out and got an agent. And apparently that angered Godfrey.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Oh, is that what it was? I don't know if that's all of it, but that seems to be at least what started the feud. Oh, and then he says, OK, in 1953, after La Rosa finished singing Manhattan on Arthur Godfrey time, Godfrey fired La Rosa on the air announcing that was Julie's swan song with us. La Rosa tearfully met with Godfrey after the broadcast and thanked him for giving him his break. What a son of a bitch. Oh, scumbag.
Starting point is 00:25:11 That was his last. That was his swan song on the air. When I was a kid, Julie La Rosa was a DJ on WNEW here in New York. Remember William B. Williams? Oh, yes, yes. And the Make-Believe Ballroom. And my mother used to listen to Julie's. The Make-Believe Ballroom. Well, sure, that's a New York. Remember William B. Williams? Oh, yes, yes. And the Make-Believe Ballroom. And my mother used to listen to Julius La Rosa. The Make-Believe Ballroom.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Well, sure. That's a New York thing. But Julius La Rosa was a DJ. Spun records. Julius La Rosa is just a nice name to say. It is. It's musical. Local boy. He would have been good for the show. I hate Julius La Rosa. Jews in general. Palo Rosa, Jews in general. You show me one other in memoriam tribute. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:53 That involves. Yeah. The sensitivity. Yeah. To include an Arthur Godfrey anti-Semitism rant. You won't find one. You can look. You won't. That is sentiment, my friend. Godfrey anti-Semitism rant. You won't find one. You won't. You can look. You won't.
Starting point is 00:26:08 That is sentiment, my friend. Now, here's somebody that I thought would absolutely have been perfect for the show, and he was a guy, and we looked into it. We didn't get a response. We're still going to try for his sister, his sisters, a guy who could laugh at himself, Frank Sinatra Jr. Oh, my God, yeah. Yeah, 72. You know, I've always thought about him.
Starting point is 00:26:37 If he was anybody else's son, he would have been a much bigger star. Yeah, but he had talent. He had talent. You heard the name, Frank Sinatra. It was already a joke. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah, and he was pretty good. He could have done more, but with the obvious comparison, you know.
Starting point is 00:26:52 And famously kidnapped, you know, have to mention that. You remember that story? Yes, and that guy, you know, you're not supposed to make money off your crimes. Oh, they passed a law, right. That law came later. I think it was the Son of Sam law or something. It came much later. And so this guy was making money writing about how he kidnapped. And didn't he turn out to be a guy that had known Frank Sinatra Jr. personally?
Starting point is 00:27:14 Oh, maybe. Didn't one of them turn out to be a former classmate or something? Oh. Paul, you can dig into that. But see, what I always wondered about is Frank Sinatra was friends with all those guys from the mob. Sure. So how are these guys who kidnapped his son alive? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:27:34 That would have been your first call. Yeah, I'm not sure. After you drop the bag off and you get the kid back. I'm not sure those guys are still around. It's a very, very strange story. Kidnapped at the age of back. Yeah. I'm not sure those guys are still around. It's a very, very strange story. He lived at the age of 19. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:50 He found success later, Frank Sinatra Jr., as a conductor and as an arranger. Oh, yeah. He kind of found himself. And I was reading, doing research on him, and he spoofed himself on The Sopranos. The family guy. The family guy. He was in The Sopranos, Son of the Beach, Howard Show. You know, he had a sense of humor.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Oh, yes. I think he would have been good for us. I'm sorry we didn't try harder. He would have. I remember Barry Keenan was the kidnapper. I think there was a pre-existing relationship there. He was 19, and later he talked about how he held him up at gunpoint. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:28 He had kind of a rough go of it, Frank Sinatra Jr. My heart goes out to him. Yeah, I think that's right. And is the reason you didn't name Max Gilbert Godfrey Jr. because you didn't want to put that kind of pressure on him? Yes. To try to follow a legend? Because I would understand.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Yeah, because then everyone would hear Gilbert Gottfried Jr. and go, well, he can't do the job that Gilbert Gottfried did in How to Be a Player. Hold the phone. Were you in How to Be a Player? Yeah, How to Be a Player. I don't want to know. I was also his funky monkey.
Starting point is 00:29:07 His James Mason is good, but nothing like his father's. He's a cute kid, but his James Mason needs work. He doesn't know half of Arthur Gottfried's anti-Semitism as his father. Can't sing Winchester Cathedral. Where's the damn? And last but not least, let's see. Well, wait a minute. I got a couple of more names before I do last or not least. How about Merle Haggard?
Starting point is 00:29:33 Merle Haggard. Ogie from Muskogee. Merle Haggard. Right? Was famously interviewed, I remember, years ago. I think it might have been by somebody from The New Yorker who spent months trying to get an interview. And they finally said, okay, he's on the bus.
Starting point is 00:29:46 You can go on the bus. And he walked on the bus and Merle Haggard was sitting there stark naked. Really? Yeah. See, he does bring something to the show. We lost Greg Lake and Keith Emerson from Emerson, Lake and Palmer in the same year. I don't know, but I would be renting, not buying if I were him. Palmer is still alive,
Starting point is 00:30:08 and he's actually been touring with a show where he's playing the music of VLP, but by himself with a guitar player. Oh, wow, that'd be great to see. And it's been going on for a while, but it's just sort of weird that now they're actually gone. Yeah, brain salad surgery.
Starting point is 00:30:23 He's still on the road. Keith Emerson was a suicide, which is terribly sad. And I love their Christmas song. Not their Christmas song. Greg Lake's Christmas song. I Believe in Father Christmas. Is that the name of it? Yeah, that is my absolute favorite.
Starting point is 00:30:39 It's beautiful. Yeah, I attribute it to the band, but it was Greg Lake. And Scotty Moore, who was Elvis' guitarist and engineer. The great Scotty Moore passed away. I dig deep on some of these names. He would have had great stuff. Can you imagine? Now, we need to find out how many of those Elvis guys are around.
Starting point is 00:30:57 And I'll tell you that Gino Salamone, and yes, Gino, I'm calling you out on the show, is really good friends with Priscilla. And I wonder if she'd come and talk to us. And I worked with Priscilla. Was she in How to Be a Player? No. She just wasn't good enough. Her audition left a lot to be desired.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Was that you and an all-black cast? Yes, yes, yes. Same thing with House Party 3. Right, and The Help. Yes, yes. You were great in that. What did you work with her on? On Ford Fairlane.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Oh, Ford Fairlane. Where we're supposed to be having an affair together. You know, really? Yeah. I think that I should be going into your IMDB page and poking out names. And if they've worked with them and they had a pleasant experience, at least we have the fighting chance. Well, the pleasant experience part is where it kills you. You just set a very high bar there.
Starting point is 00:32:00 I think that's how we got Bogdanovich. Yeah. I think that's how we got Bogdanovich. Yeah. Last but not least, a giant, Sir George Martin. Oh, my God. Deservedly so. He was amazing.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Go ahead. Well, Paul McCartney had a little just very nice words about how musically literate George Martin was and how much he had learned from him and everything. And he wrote yesterday and he was going to play it just himself in guitar. The band talked it over and said, we just do it as acoustic guitar. And George Martin said, we could bring a cello in here. And we says,
Starting point is 00:32:38 I'd like to bring in a string quartet. And Paul McCartney said, are you crazy? We're a rock and roll band. Everybody was against it. And he said, look, let's try it. Oh, a lot like this show it, and he said, look, let's try it.
Starting point is 00:32:45 A lot like this show. Let's try it and we'll throw it out. It's just like this show. Anyway, they tried the string quartet, and they loved it, and he went on to do Eleanor Rigby, and he became, as Paul himself said, the fifth Beatle for his contributions to the band. I heard that Eleanor Rigby, the strings, and Gilbert will appreciate this, the strings were inspired by Bernard Herrmann.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Oh, wow. Psycho. Yes. Yes. Yes. I mean, think about that. Well, of course, McCartney woke up with yesterday in his head as scrambled eggs. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:16 But think about that, that here's this guy with a classical background who hears that. Yes, it's a rock band. Oh, no, we're going to make it lush. We're going to add strings. I mean, he's... But all, you know, the trumpet in Penny Lane. I mean, there's so many things. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:30 We could do a full episode and more. It's like you wonder what the Beatles would have sounded like without George Martin. Well, I think that's exactly right. And could they, you know, the things they really did with Sgt. Pepper and Abbey Road, would they have ever gotten there if he wasn't mixing the tapes and running things backwards and all the things that he did, Strawberry Fields forever, all of that stuff? The horn on Penny Lane, didn't Paul kind of hear it in his head and then write it down or just go, say the way he wanted it to sound? I wouldn't be surprised. And Martin, and I'm screwing this up because I'm not a musician, but Martin, and Martin notated it and then brought in the trumpet player. And
Starting point is 00:34:08 when you, just to be a fly on the wall and watch those things be assembled. Yeah. I direct our listeners, it's on YouTube, there's a little doc about George called Rhythm of Life, which is terrific. And Paul's in it and some of the other people he worked with. I bet the listeners can tell us, I think that trumpet goes very high. And I think that's a small D trumpet as opposed to the B-flat trumpet. Interesting. So I'd love to hear from the listeners if anybody knows exactly what that instrument was. I'll tell you who's around is the Beatle engineer Jeff Emmerich, who's in, I think, only in his 80s or late 70s. And I wonder if he'd come and talk to us.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Is he in New York? Do you think he could be in L.A. or he could be in the U.K.? But I think it's worth a call. I think it's worth a call. And if we're calling the U.K. anyway, Papillon Sousa. Maybe we should have them do it together. Yeah. And another great thing about—
Starting point is 00:35:01 Gilbert, you could probably use a little chiropractic work anyway. Oh, yes. And another great thing about... Gilbert, you could probably use a little chiropractic work anyway. Another thing about George Martin that I'll forever respect him for, he worked with the goons. He worked with Spike Milligan and Peter Sellers and did comedy albums, did comedy records. Produced comedy records for them. Yes, yes, yes. The fifth Beatle. Sir George Martin.
Starting point is 00:35:26 He also worked with Kenny Rogers and Elton and Cheap Trick. He and Paul were the only two that were knighted, right? Sir Paul McCartney and Sir George.
Starting point is 00:35:34 I think, no, wasn't George Harrison knighted? I think. I didn't, I don't know. He's not knighted? Again, call to the listeners.
Starting point is 00:35:42 He wasn't knighted. See, I know who's alive or dead, but I can't tell you who's knighted. And Ringo must be knighted by Again, call to the listeners. He wasn't knighted. See, I know who's alive or dead, but I can't tell you who's knighted. And Ringo must be knighted by this point. I don't... No knighting for Ringo? Well...
Starting point is 00:35:51 Beat Best? That was a good movie. No knighting for Ringo. I know. Yeah. Remember when Lorne Michaels offered the Beatles $3,000? Oh, that was wonderful. You can split it up any way you want.
Starting point is 00:36:02 If you want to pay Ringo less, that's up to you. That was brilliant. George Martin, that is a loss, the fifth Beatle. They called a lot of people the fifth Beatle. Oh, yeah. Murray the K. Murray the K was the fifth Beatle, and Billy Preston was the fifth Beatle. I mean, those guys had every reason to listen to nobody at their height.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Oh, no question. And he. They respected him. Completely aside from his musical talent, he had to be able to approach them and persuade them to give the string quartet a try and do that sort of thing. You know, I'm Paul McCartney. You're going to tell me what we need in this song, you know. Or even whose idea was it? And all you need is love to bring back.
Starting point is 00:36:45 She loves, she loves you. Yeah. Yeah. And the last refrain, you know, there's just the, the,
Starting point is 00:36:50 the levels of production. I mean, that's part of what made them a cut above. She also raises a question. Maybe it's time to finally reveal what we know about the, is Paul dead? Sit you remember that whole thing? Yeah. Yeah. that's it that's
Starting point is 00:37:06 all i got nobody else died oh fuck you know it's not like the old days we'll hope for better in 2017 Take us out, sir I'm Gilbert Gottfried My co-host Frank Santopadre And some asshole who I serve no purpose Who's he talking about? I don't know who he's talking about Why don't you talk about Frank Verderosa that way
Starting point is 00:37:38 Frank Verderosa who lost three of our shows He did not He did I'm blaming him Three of our shows. He did not. He did. I'm blaming him. Three of our shows. They were great shows. He was at a PTA conference. Some woman came up to me.
Starting point is 00:37:52 She said, I was there at that club where you were called. She goes, that was great. It was the most fun I've ever had in my life. Right. And to have to tell her that Frank Fernero wasn't Frank. I can hit the erase button right now. Oh, don't I know it. He's too powerful.
Starting point is 00:38:16 By the way, that evening is going to be like Woodstock. Oh, my God. People will be coming up to us telling us they were there for decades. There's going to be a Wikipedia entry on the Lost Deeps. So once again, I'm Gilbert Gottfried with my co-host Frank Santopadre and this has been
Starting point is 00:38:33 Gilbert and Frank's Amazing Colossal Obsessions. See you next time. Colossal Obsessions. Friends, why not take a trip to Spontaneanation, where hours of listening pleasure await you. Hours made up of moments. Moments like these. Guys, maybe we should put our cards on the table here.
Starting point is 00:38:59 Okay. I feel like one or two or all of us might be, and this is going to sound weird, and please don't hate me for saying this, human killing robots. What a relief. I am. Thank you so much. I am too. I am too. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:39:23 I killed Roberto. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. And you're going to sing a solo way. Hilarious. I am too! Oh my god! I killed Roberto! Oh my god! And you're going to sing a solo hilarious. Oh, that is very ironic. Is that irony? I think so. Let me listen to that one song and I'll get back to you. I can do it later. Listen to Spontaneanation with me, Paul F. Tompkins
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