Gil's Arena - Anthony Davis Carrying The Mavs FIRES UP Gil's Arena

Episode Date: April 3, 2025

Anthony Davis Carrying The Dallas Mavericks FIRES UP Gil's Arena as Gilbert Arenas returns to Gil's Arena and reacts to Anthony Davis' dominant performance to carry the Dallas Mavericks closer to the NBA Playoffs and make a statement that the team will not roll over after the Luka Doncic trade. Next, Gilbert Arenas recaps his trip to the McDonald's All American Game to watch Alijah Arenas take on the nation's best hoopers and reacts to the NBA investigating Ja Morant for his use of finger guns as a celebration and the stigma that will follow him throughout his career. Then, the Gil's Arena Crew debates if Shai Gilgeous Alexander has already done win the NBA MVP and gain insights from Shai's historic season from their conversation with his father. Finally, Gilbert Arenas gives Carmelo Anthony his flowers after the legendary hooper's Hall of Fame announcement and welcomes comedian & actor Ryan Davis into the Arena. Please give us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Nick Young & Ryan Davis Gil's Arena Merch is Available NOW at https://gilsarenamerch.com/ Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Credits and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://betterhelp.com/ARENA and get on your way to being your best self. USE Code GIL10 for 10% off tickets on SeatGeek https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL10 Vote Here For The Webby Awards - https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2025/creators/individual-creator/sports Watch Ryan's Special Here - https://www.patreon.com/cw/ryandaviscomedy Join the Playback chat to interact with Gil and Josiah https://www.playback.tv/gilbertarenas SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog 0:00:00 2 Min Timer 0:01:56 Show Start 0:06:28 Ryan Davis Enters Gil's Arena 0:11:53 Gilbert Arenas Calls The Underdog Office 0:16:13 Vote For The Webby Awards 0:17:38 Alijah Arenas Lights Up The McDonalds All American Game 0:27:15 Ja Morant Finger Gun Gesture 0:37:55 Ryan Davis On His Raw Vegan Diet 0:39:45 Anthony Davis Is CARRYING The Mavericks 1:12:55 JJ Redick On The MIP Award 1:31:09 SGA's Pops Says He's The Real MVP 1:49:03 Carmelo Anthony Inducted To The Hall Of Fame 2:09:07 Dillon Brooks' Is The NBA's Most PERFECT Dirty Player 2:23:50 Gilbert Arenas DESTROYS KD's Biggest Hater 2:40:38 Swaggy FIGHTS BACK Over His Championship Ring Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Order yours on the Tim's app today at participating restaurants in Canada for a limited time. Welcome back to Gil's Arena, presented by Underdog. Whoa, whoa! Gil finally back at work. Good to see you. Yeah, man. Yeah, Gil made it back. Once I hit a million, man, I'm just like any black person at work, man. I quit.

Shit, I only came back to get my check. Shit, it's the first of the month. The direct deposit has arrived. God bless Underdog for always blessing it. Give us a lot of red in the arena, though, Gil. It's the new San Fernando Valley out here. We don't play that. What's happening, homie?

Oh, I'm sorry. Y'all don't know McDonald colors. This is Mickey D colors, man. You didn't make it. I just learned it, yeah. Okay, okay. I'm about to say, you can't shit on it. You got the letter, too. Huh?

You got that letter like you thought you was going to make it? No, I was too far to get that letter. Oh, you didn't get the letter? No. You got a letter, Swanky? Yeah, I was, like, nominated. Was you nominated? No, I was 99.

I was happy to be 99. Damn. I didn't even know there was a McDonald's game. They chose Aaron to follow over me. And they gave you a letter? UCLA Brewing, Aaron to follow. Shout out. Yeah, I mean, that was the right choice.

You've been saying that for years, motherfucker. What? I'm just saying. You've said that a long time ago. Yeah. Yeah. He got paid more than you, right? Yeah.

Then it was the right choice. Did you? It was a wizard day. You said that a long time ago. Yeah. Yeah. You got paid more than you, right? Yeah. Then it was the right choice. Did you? It was a wizard day. It was like, man, if I don't got it, why you can't get it? Remember that shit? You was about to tell us to earn a five-year agent.

Yeah, you can't have the same agent going for the same two people. Nah, I don't feel bad, man. I didn't make the McDonald's game either. Yeah, we are. What? None of us did. Yeah. No McDonald's All-Americans on, we are. None of us. No McDonald's All-Americans on this here couch,

but this is Gills Arena presented by Underdog. Whoa, whoa. Back in the arena. After going to the McDonald's All-American game to support his son Elijah, we got Gilbert Arenas

here in the building. Well, you all won. You won now. Congrats, brother. We are all McDonald's All-Americans now. You know, our son Elijah. Yeah.

Our son. First son to give us a ring. On this side of the couch, NBA champion of the world, swaggy pig Nick Young. Swaggy. I just got to point out, I'm really loving the show you're on. I love NY, but the NY is for Nick Young. Yeah. That's clever.

They love me. Are you saying it's fantastic? No, I said it's clever. Or are you like being my friend love me. Are you saying it's sarcastic? No, I said it's clever. Or are you like being my friend right now? Are you in friend mode or are you like sarcastic? No, friend mode. I was like, oh, that's clever. I like that.

Thank you, man. I'll get you a shirt. No, I'm going to make, like, I love Georgia with the G-A-R. Facts. Because I was thinking G-A-R, and I hit a blank. So the fact that you remember, that's crazy. I'm a little smarter than you. The special education took me farther.

I was in there longer. I was in there longer, that's why. But a little shorter. And we got a special guest making his first appearance in the arena. He's a comedian who's the host of Black Comedy in America. You may have seen him on season four or five of Insecure, or maybe on season 10 of Curb Your Enthusiasm. He's also got a comedy special called Underrated

available on Patreon. And you also may have seen him presenting his goat case on Cancel Court. I really appreciated that. I love that. Ryan Davis. Welcome to Gil's Arena. Is that a 100-dollar whoop-whoop?

The bus ain't been here, man. I smoke now. You got to do it again. Okay. Ryan Davis, welcome to Gills Arena. Is that a 100-dollar whoop-whoop? We got the LeBron smoke and the Bronny smoke. We got two smoke sources now.

But what's going on with you, Ryan? How you doing, brother? No, I'm good, man. I'm good, yo. It's kind of surreal being here, yo, when you a fan of this show. It was like, oh, this is really a real place, nigga. Oh, man.

Oh, man. But I appreciate it, you know? Get that kind of love from people who know sports. You know what I mean? Because I think my goat argument, I think I wrapped that up pretty well, man. Yeah, it was very, very well presented. The people have sided with you.

Let me see that. He was like, and one nigga just good at making spaghetti. Yeah. Maybe this is the greatest spaghetti on the earth. Italian, Chinese. You can make some spaghetti. So you're the best chef.

You only got one dish. One dish. The same recipe. So you just dropped your comedy special, underrated on Patreon. You've been grinding for comedy special, Underrated, on Patreon. You've been grinding for a long, long time, obviously. We chatted a while ago, but I've been watching your whole trajectory, man. Really just blessed to see you doing all the things you're doing.

So what's it been like seeing all your hard work pay off? Oh, it's been crazy. You know, the one thing, and I'm sure Gil can relate to this, is whenever you're known for something, they don't, you get underestimated in other spaces. Like, when you recently went on ESPN and other platforms and you dog-walking these dudes in debates about sports, they're like, he's a player, he's a player, he's a player.

It was like, nah, I pay attention to all of this. I know stats, I know scheme, I know everything. And I think being in social media, being in the social media space and making like commentary or things that people look at as skits, they don't look at you as a stand-up like that. Or they think that you switched over to stand-up. So whenever, you know, the comedy special came out and people started gravitating to it the way that they are it just you know validated that you know what i felt that i was legitimate the entire time so i think it's

it's uh cool to see people finally get it finally understand that i'm one of them ones when it comes to stand up okay i think there was a big uh was probably like 2000 with what? 17, 18, when them skits started hitting the... Yeah. And they thought they were comedians trying to push out real comedians. Yeah. It was like, yeah, I'm going to do 15 minutes and then you close it for me.

Yeah. Hey, it was a lot of them, boy. Yeah, I get the 100,000 and you're like 10. Yeah, everybody's going to come see the show. I'm going to do like nine minutes. Yeah. You're going to do 45 and I'm going to do like nine minutes. You're going to do 45. And I'm going to give you $300.

How that sound? And I'm going to take home $80,000. And, you know, I was talking with Bill about that. And he said, man, it's weird space. Yeah. And I was like, man, they can't really do what y'all do yet. Mm-mm, yeah. You can do what they do.

Yeah. Like, you can do short-form comic without giving away the recipe, and that be the problem. Yeah. Right? You're trying to, you can't give out your short-form jokes that you use for. It's like, imagine if Anne One was selling more tickets than the NBA. You'd be like, what the fuck is going on?

You niggas is paying to watch niggas kinda hoop like us? That's what it is. Or if they did like celebrity basketball games and it was selling more than the NBA, you'd be like, this ain't even basketball for real. But I like the guy. That's what it's turned into. And hopefully, you know, comedy, you know,

goes back to, you know, people paying attention to who's the best at doing it. And not to say that these people who do these sketches can't be the best, or they aren't great in their own right. It's just that I just wish people would pay attention to who is really great at doing it on stage and understand it's a separate thing. So in your opinion, who is the best?

Ali Sadiq is the king right now. Okay. In my eyes, he the king right now. Okay. And stand up? Stand up. I think he the king right now. Okay.

I can't claim the crown. I don't think nobody's better than me, but as far as, Earthquake had told me this a long time ago. It was like, you know, if you're going to criticize it from being inside, your body of work has to stand up to what you're criticizing. You know, I think the body of work that I put out, Underrated, this special that I have out now, it's one of the best comedy specials in the last 15 years, easily.

But Ali has, like, four of the best comedy specials in the past 15 years. So I can't act like my one body of work trumps what he's doing. He's doing amazing shit. There you go. That's what we be on in the basketball shit. Yeah.

I can't use these one-offs to trump people's body of work. No, you can't. Uh-oh. We got a lot of basketball to get into. And ready to stand up? That's all-oh. We got a lot of basketball to get into. And ready to do stand-up? That's all I heard. I got to get on stage. It don't pay like basketball. I'm just saying.

We should see who's funnier on stage. Let's just see. Can you get in front of the... I just want to see you get on stage and tell a couple jokes. Why? Let's see. Can you do it? That shit look hard. Am I gonna go first? If I go first, I'm gonna just tell all your jokes. How about that? Mm. Let's see. Can you do it? That shit look hard. Am I gonna go first? If I go first, I'm gonna just tell all your jokes. How about that?

Mm. Gil, I did it for this show. That shit so hard, man. I know. I was so scared. I'm probably just sitting here just... Yeah. Hey, man, where the basketball at? Get to the basketball, man.

It was telling me jokes, too, in my ear. I'm like, damn, this shit hard. Just like our chat. Where the basketball talk at, too, in my ear. I'm like, damn, this is hard. Just like our chat. Where the basketball talk at, man? Hold on. I don't know how to do that. We don't get to it. We got a lot to get to.

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Anthony headed to the Hall of Fame as a first ballot selection. So we got to give Melo his flowers on this very show. And it's a two-man race for MVP with less than two weeks remaining in the season. Does SGA deserve more credit for the historic season the Thunder are having right now? Obviously we saw Joker with the 60-point triple double. Everybody prisoners of the season. Does SGA deserve more credit for the historic season the Thunder are having right now?

Obviously, we saw Joker with the 60-point triple-double. Everybody prisoners of the moment. A lot of people put Joker ahead of SGA, but SGA's body of work this season, some remarkable, not to say that Joker isn't because he's doing historic stuff as well. But before we get into all that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog.

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Man, I be looking good on this FaceTime. I don't even know why I got married. This dude is so arrogant. I'm just sitting on the wall. I got married looking like, hey, man, how you doing, man? I'm just behind us, Berm. Like, usually when I FaceTime,

it's usually ladies, but unfortunately, it's you. We need to do some business here. Hey, since we did break a million, we got Luca special. Can we get a LeBron special? That's a good man right there. I mean, did you see what Rashad took us for last night? Hey, listen.

I heard he was getting fired because of that. And unfortunately, if people don't know, Rashad, partner pack hit last night. And it cost y'all $500,000? Damn. A couple hundred K for sure, dude.

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Number one's easy. I'm a Hornets fan. We miss a lot of shots. Yeah, yeah. You know Mark. But he get that. You know Mark. How did I get 22?

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I'm like, yeah, that was... Hey, Trae Young don't rebound like that. I know, that's what I'm saying. 14 and a half. Yeah. 14 with assists. Yeah, okay. That was a half. Yeah. 14 with Sissy. Yeah. Okay.

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We were honored, too. No, we just got honored, GIL. That means we didn't make the top five.. We have been nominated. We were honored, too. No, we just got honored, Gil. That means we didn't make the top five. We made the top seven. So we just get a courtesy pat on the back. You better wear this shit for us. Wait, hold on, man. So now it's up to you, Gil. You got to carry the show. Who the fuck else is there?

Like, I'm sorry. What other shows are y'all actually voting for? I hope Club 520, All the Smoke, and then we're in the mix. Because if not, it's going to be a situation. Webby Awards. I mean, I personally got two Webby Awards already. Oh, well, look at you. Well, look at you.

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But again, vote for Gil. You got until Thursday, April 17th. There's a link in the chat. So Gil, we see the sweatshirt. We see the shoes, coordination. The reason you were missing from the show the last two days because you were watching your son Elijah ball out in the McDonald's All-American game. Let's take a look at some highlights if we can. That's you, Corsair.

You sitting next to Carlos Boozer. Shout out, Melly. Also in the building. A little slow in the first half, but then he got to work. He got that nice bucket right there. Then he said, oh, hit him with it. That's when you knew right there, okay, he came to do something. Elijah had 11 points in just 13 minutes of action. His West squad took home the win by a score of 105-92. Gil, you were actually on the phone with Steve, if I'm not mistaken, at that point. Fast.

Steve was like, yeah, Gil's on the phone with me here. I was like, yeah, he called me earlier. I told him, you know, Elijah wasn't playing that much. I'm watching Steph. I'm watching the Steph 50 piece, but I turned it back over just in time to see some cooking. But, man, this was obviously, I know, a tremendous moment for you, a tremendous moment for everybody in Gil's arena to watch Elijah out there doing his thing.

And then let's talk about another moment that happened in the game. When he was at the line shooting his free throws, you see him get fouled right there. He busted out. Oh wait, let's not talk about that first. I'm fucking up. First and foremost, what was it like for you sitting courtside watching your son play in the McDonald's All-American game? I mean, it was crazy, I'm not even going to lie. Just to see the same sorry kid that touched the basketball for the first time

turn into someone who's top 24 in his class, in the country. I mean, just for any parent who has a kid that's that good. You know, being there in these rare moments that a lot of us don't get. Right? You know, like this. We, you know, made it to the NBA and, you know, had, you know, great success. But, you know, these are those milestones. And I remember having a conversation with all of them and say, hey, man, listen, but these are those milestones. I remember having a conversation with all of them and saying, hey man, listen, this

is just one step, this is just one door. This doesn't define your career. When you get to the next level, there's people who didn't make it that's going to be coming for y'all. So y'all got to get better every single day, every single level, because it just doesn't stop here. And all the kids are like, yeah, I understand. Because I was like, there's a motherfucker that didn't get picked here that's looking at y'all like, yeah, y'all in my spot.

And you got to worry about those kids too. So enjoy it, have fun, but then it doesn't work. We're going to talk about one of those kids later in the show. But for us, we were here when the McDonald's rosters were announced. Elijah came through with Mickey D's for the whole crew. Some of that spicy-ass Sprite and all that good stuff. We're here for his college announcement as well. But let's go back to a moment in the game.

We saw him get fouled in that clip, but let's see what happened when he went to the free throw line. So when Elijah was at the line, like father, like son, he busted out a very familiar free throw routine. This is a 60-point game right here, right? I ain't even going to hold you. I'm just glad he made it.

Yeah. To pay homage to your dad and miss is crazy. He would have got packed up by the internet. So did you know Elijah was going to do that free throw routine during the game? That's been his free throw routine since he was little. Okay. That's his free throw routine. You know what I mean?

And were you nervous at all watching him shoot that free throw? Like Ryan said, if he would have missed. No, I mean, he missed the first one. I already knew that. He only showed the second. I was like, yeah, he about to miss this. But, you know, that's been his free throw routine since he started. Okay.

He missed free throws, too. That's why LeBron tapped him on the chest. Damn. LeBron said, what's up, my dog? He was trying to do that shit. He was wrapping it around his head. He was wrapping it. Oh, man.

That's what I like about our kids. Our kids do mimic our behavior. See how far you're going? You don't stand out. No, I'm just saying, your son do the same thing you was doing. Sitting on the bench. I knew you was going to say.

Because he ain't good enough to get in the game like the real... You know what I'm talking about, my son. No, I'm just saying. See, he bringing a family problem in front of people. He's getting right, Nick, okay? We got faith in problem. He's friending people. He getting right, Nick. Okay, we got faith in him. I got faith in him. He'll get right.

I feel no shame. Breaking me down. My son can't even dribble. Yo. Neither. Nice, Nick. Nice, man. Nah, yo.

How old is your son? My son is seven. Oh, good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's seven. Okay. That makes sense. Nah. He's not ever My son is seven. Oh, good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's seven. That makes sense.

Nah, he not ever going to be good. You never know. Nah, you really don't. You never know. Nah, seriously, you never know. Like Elijah right here, when he was 10, 11, he didn't play basketball. And I was like, ooh, yeah, this ain't your sport.

But you know what he got? You know what he got? Genetics. That's going, that could kick in at any time. Yeah, my son, you know, if he get the good side of my genetics, he'll be like 5'7". He'll be 5'7". The good side. Yeah, yeah. If he get the good side, you know what I mean?

That'll make him taller than 80% of my family, I think. We got to talk about one more thing. I see your phone blowing out. Everybody see you on Gills Arena right now. You got people hitting you up before the show. So you wasn't like LeVar Ball, huh? You wasn't trying to get to the NBA. No, no.

The big ones. No, no, no. I immediately started handing my children books. I knew what time it was you know i i my my kids are the least athletic kids you'll ever see man you know what i mean shout out to their mom passing that down uh uh they just they just nah they don't have it man i mean silly stuff man you can take, like... I'd take my son to go play laser tag. He had a gun pointed at him.

I was like, your coordination is awful. Yeah, he's at trampoline parks, man. They quit. They ain't got nothing in them, man. Rocket scientists is what I got. Hey, is your girl and your... Are they your sisters? He's disrespecting my family.

I'm just saying, it sounds like the same. Nah, Nick Nice and Nick is nice. Let's talk about one more special moment. I'm just saying, you're sounding like LeBron James. I'm just saying, it's better than 95% of the NBA. You said, wait, what? My son's number one in the nation. In what?

Nicest. Oh, nice. Nick like top 50. Okay. Let's talk about a special moment that happened at the end of the game. You and Elijah swapped jerseys with each other. We got the video.

Let's check it out. You just prayed? You posted this on your No Chill Gilero Twitter account. So everybody on Twitter, go ahead and follow Gil at his NoChillGillZero Twitter account, not to be confused with his NoChillGillID account. But you and Elijah did the jersey swap. We talked about this a little on the show yesterday, Gil, but I need to know,

did you walk around New York City with that musty McDonald's jersey on? No. You see, I got a nice little fit under there. You know, a little matching fit. You know what I mean? No, I took it off and, you know. That was a Valley All-Star jersey? What kind of jersey sweat was that? Because you didn't do the McDonald's, so. No, I had McDonald's. I gave you the one I bought. The real one, God damn it. You don't throw this out or whatever Give this to your mama or something I have to speak That motherfucker gonna be on eBay I need that in the wall right here

I'm gonna have to get a hold of that That's smart right I might get it When he go number one to the Hornets I'm gonna bid for that thing It's my team I might get it when he goes number one to the Hornets. I'm going to bid for that thing. Don't wish that. It's my team. Look, they've been bothering me for season tickets all week.

I'm like, why? I'm going to just go to the games. There's like nine games I want to go to. Just nine. There's like nine. Because even in our division, there ain't a bunch of teams I want to see in our division. That's true. LeBron come once a year.

You know what I mean? You hope he play. You know what I mean? It's crazy. Nah, I ain't doing season tickets. Yeah, there's a game he might not play for sure. That's unfortunate. Yeah.

I've seen Nick at a game. Luke at first game. That was Laker. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he was closer to me, so he ain't seen me. But I saw him. I saw him at the game. Yeah, he was closer to me, so he didn't see me, but I saw him. I saw him at the game. What was he saying?

Oh, no, he was closer to me. He was a few rows from me. Man, why you want to talk about me? No, no, no. Leave me alone, man. Damn. Hey, no, because you get these underdog checks, right? Yeah.

Get you close. My dog. My dog. Yeah. Shout out to underdogs. All right, we got some real basketball to get into, but shout out to Elijah, Yeah. Get you close. My dog. My dog. Yeah. Shout out to Hunter, dog. All right, we got some real basketball to get into, but shout out to Elijah, McDonald's

All-American game. Swag he'll be following your footsteps going to USC. Distinguished alumni, OJ, Reggie Bush. We would try to go to break all your records, but we not planning on staying that long. I don't want him to stay that long. We not trying to stay until our junior, senior year. That's crazy. Like you, right? I was a sophomore.

Man, you was a sophomore? Yeah, I was out of there. I was projected to be like fifth year senior, but I had other plans. I don't know. I remember, man. I'm a Duke fan. Beat y'all.

But you got a game. I was just good. How much you had in the tournament? In the tournament? Yeah. I was killing the tournament. He was killing. He was? Yeah. I was killing going to tell you. How much you had in the tournament? In the tournament? Yeah. I was killing the tournament. He was killing. He was? Yeah, I was killing the tournament.

Why would you, Jefferson, say that then? Because he had that one good game. Oh. This is the one. Well, let's get into some. That one off. Some contemporary curve basketball. So after John Morant made a finger gun gesture at the Warriors bench late in Tuesday night's game,

ESPN is reporting that the NBA looked into the incident. But as a reminder, let's take a look at what happened. I don't know if you saw this, Gil, if you was here. I know you're on the Internet all the time. But boom, did the finger gun gesture at the Warriors bench. Buddy Hill did it back. So according to the report, the league also looked into the gesture that Buddy Hill did from the Warriors bench. Refs gave double text to John Hill during the game.

The league spoke with both parties after conducting an investigation, issued warnings but ruled that the celebrations were not intended to be violent in nature. So the league also told John and Buddy that they were inappropriate and should refrain from doing them again. So in response to the controversy and all the talk surrounding it, Ja tweeted this yesterday. He said, Ja this, Ja that. Crying, laughing emoji. So obviously any time the Ja situation comes up, people talk about yourself.

Everybody who has Google probably knows why. But any concern that Ja hasn't learned his lesson yet? I mean, he's learned his lesson. He ain't been caught on film holding a gun. So that's... That is a positive. That is a positive of the situation. What was they investigating? Yeah, that's crazy.

Like, did they not know the size of the gun? It looked big. Yeah. Like, who was pointing at it? I mean, we can see, you know. Probably double-barrel shotgun if you ask me. But how do you feel, like, if you drive? Like, ain't you tired of it?

Don't this, like, don't make you want to get up for basketball sometimes? Well, I know this sounds crazy. This might sound crazy to y'all. But what if this nigga's really gangster? Like, why does no one ever consider that that might be the case? What if? What if he can't stop? He's addicted to the gang.

Yeah, what if he can't stop? I'm just, I don't know how many gangsters are that rich. Yeah. And I don't know how many gangsters lost $50 million doing non-gangster shit. There's nothing gangster about holding your gun like this. At the strip club. Like, so... The noisy cricket.

You know, there's a time and place and I don't really... I be catching that little slick. Yeah, he do. All the time he sneaking in. I just try to sneak in. I mean, it's just, there's just certain things you can't do if you're dropped. Same thing, you know, with me. There's just certain gestures you just can't do.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You can't have it in the locker room either. You gotta, what you gotta do is. Touche. Touche. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What you gotta do.

I think some things are not as bad as others. I really feel like he can't stop. I really feel like it's his default setting. He don't even know how to point. He don't know how to point with one finger. I think it's just his default setting. For real. I think we might need to embrace that he can't stop.

Like, he got a problem, for real. He got a problem, for real. Just pulling out on people. Yeah. It's just, man, you know what would be cool right now? Gun fingers. I think that's how his brain works. I mean, I've seen reaction there. You got Buddy Hill doing it to him.

Maybe he was just insulted that Buddy Hill would do that. Yeah, but you see Draymond talking to the ref. He just did this. Yeah, I did. That's crazy. No, I thought he was talking to Cliff. No, Draymond was telling him. Hemond talking to the ref. He just did this. Yeah, I did. That's crazy. I thought he was talking to Clem. No, Draymond was telling. He was trying to shoot us. Draymond was trying to shoot us. He was telling. He had a gun, bro. He said, you don't see him? It's a Super Soaker 5000.

I know you always have loopholes. That wasn't a gun, it was a Super Soaker. I'm just saying, if they asked you that stupid-ass question, so what was... It was a super soaker 3000. That would kind of... Yeah. Like, what is the fucking point of calling me about this shit, man?

It's another version or whatever. We just gesturing around here. Same thing with the throat or same thing with Stewie doing this shit. That sounds more... I'm going to just be honest with you. I'll be afraid of Stewart doing this shit right here versus Ja doing this. Because Stewart's'm going to just be honest with you. I'll be afraid of Stuart doing this shit right here.

Yeah. Versus Ja doing this. Because Stuart's really going to fight you. Facts. Yeah. And we know what this means. When we get in the back, I'm taking off. I don't want those problems, right?

So, you know, I'm just saying. But don't Mikael Bridges do it too, though? Which one? The three, when he hit a three, he do it. Three. Yeah. But it's three. But it's still. Ja Morant be like, I'm going to shoot you

in the parking lot. It's what he's saying too. You can't point a gun at Steph. Or his teammate. Now that was Buddy Hill. That was the only reason. Who was that at? It was like Buddy Hill. Uh-oh, it's just a warning. Right. It's just a warning. It's Buddy Hill.

I thought you did that to Curry. I think people also aren't paying attention to, like, there was a point in this season where Memphis was at the top of the league. They were at the top of the West, and there was no coverage on it. That's another thing that Ja's doing to his team that people aren't paying attention to. Like, he could have, like, halfway through the season, he should have been in some MVP talks.

Oh. Not MVP. No, no. No, no, no. He missed a lot of games, though. He got a, this is that year where they pretend you ain't doing nothing. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And then, like, next year, they have an old little jaw,

and then the following year is when jaw get his name back. Yeah, but what I'm saying is if Memphis had stayed at the top, we would still only hear about him pointing at people. No one even is paying attention to his performance. He's not having a bad season by any means. It's Memphis. That's messed up. What we think about Memphis' name in the last three or four years is Jai and his troubles,

Dylan Brooks doing the shit Dylan Brooks was doing. Poking bears. Yeah, and then... Yeah. Taylor Jenkins getting fired. Yeah, I didn't even know that was the coach's name.

I mean, just be honest, until you put it in the rundown and I had to look it up, I didn't even know who the coach was. Nah, I knew who he was. I just didn't know his name. I saw the picture. I was like, that's the Memphis dude.

Didn't know his name. Nah, I didn't know his name. Nobody care about the coach, man. Or the assistant coaches or the trainers. Yeah, I ain't like, that's the dude Javi pointing the gun at in practice. Know who that dude is. But in all sincerity, just considering what Javi has dealt with in the past,

not a good look for him to do. I don't think it's a big deal by any stretch of the imagination. We see a lot of guys doing it. We saw guys doing it during March Madness. We see them doing it at any court you go to in any AU game across the country. They did this shit in the Olympics! Yeah.

It was a... The Turkish shooter, though! I know, but what I'm saying is, because he was so cool with it, that became everyone's symbol of, like, cold-blooded. Yeah. Right? You got swimmer.

You got everybody was doing that, and it was fine. So you got to either accept it or don't across the board. I think he needs to change his nickname. Yeah, that's kind of. Nah, see, if he changed his nickname to, like, Ja Wick, for real, like, he was like, nah, I'm just copying Wick.

That's the thing. It's not, like, gangster. It's, like, cinematic. It's a movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think he'd get away with it easier. It's his attachment. I think it's the attachment

to, like, that culture that makes it so negative. Because you don't think of Mikael Bridges like that at all. That's what I'm saying. He can do that. What's his nickname? Who?

John. 12, he goes, there's a few nicknames. Yeah. 12 is police, though. He's Gen C. All these Gen Cs, they know. Fuck police. Yeah.

I mean, you got a nice little group that feels the same way. All of them. Max. Man, just get back to the gritty man. You know, the kids love you. Yeah. Or if you're going to do the little gun, do it with the gritty. Then it look happy. Then it look happy.

Yeah. You got to put it in and pull it out. It's age appropriate. I think that's the problem. He don't holster it. And that be the real issue with it that he don't actually host her it back So there's a sickest it's it's wild with it, but that's my guy though Yeah, you gotta put the safety back on Maybe it wouldn't be so you know what I mean Like your son at laser tag. Yeah, no, this nigga awful.

He almost beat me, though, because I was fat. You did lose a lot of weight. Mm-hmm. I'm down 75 this year. Ozempic? Why is that the first thought ever, dog? No. Gil Zempic.

Damn! No, no. And I'm not going to diss anybody who uses Ozempic. Do whatever it takes to get where you need to be. But nah, man, it was old-fashioned diet and exercise, bro. Yeah, that's what I be saying, too. Yeah, I can't do Ozempic. I'm a nerd, bro.

I'm a nerd, so I have to research anything before I touch it. The only thing that I put in my body without researching was McDonald's. But other than that, I try to pay attention to it. There was some research that was like, you know, you lose muscle

mass doing certain stuff. I couldn't afford to lose muscle mass because it was the only thing keeping me from looking fatter than I actually was. So, yeah, no, you put some muscle in it, it holds it up. So that was the only thing to keep in the stomach from hitting the thighs, bro. So, nah, it was a raw vegan diet. Shout out to my man, D Herbs.

The show is actually on YouTube. It's called I Can. And I'm doing this weight loss program. I'm losing 100 pounds in four months. God damn. Eating what? Raw vegan. Just fruits and vegetables, dog.

Haven't had cooked food in three months. So nothing cooked? Wait, wait. No cooked? No, nothing. Just fruits, vegetables, two-a-day workouts. Wait, wait, wait. All right, nothing cooked, but is it hot food?

You can eat some hot food or no? No. How does food get hot, Nick? I'm saying a microwave. You can put it in the microwave. What does microwaves do to food, Nick? But you said raw food. That don't mean it's going to got to be cooked.

You can eat some raw. What does a microwave do to the food, Nick? Raw vegan diet don't mean... Why won't you answer my question, Nick? Raw vegan diet don't mean... Why won't you answer my question, man? No, it don't. I was on a raw vegan diet. I ate some hot shit. Yo.

I ate some hot shit. Yo. That's not the same as hot, right? STD is not hot. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. It was burning. I know, it not hot. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. It was burning.

It was burning. I know, it was hot. If you take something that's not cooked and you put it in the microwave and take it out, what happens? If you leave it on the counter, it's going to get hot, too. No, it ain't. It's going to be room temperature.

It's still not cold, so what is not cold? Why are you saying it ain't cold? You know what? What is not cold? You know what just hit me? My son can't go to USC. That's the problem, dude. Can't go to USC?

How do you get in? Yeah, because now I'm sitting here like, and I was giving you props with the I love George. I was like, that was quick. To get over the reason, I was like, this nigga's smart. Ten minutes later, ten minutes later, I'm like, this nigga must really could hook. I gotta say, I can't eat raw vegetable diet.

I mean, raw vegan. You're just going to keep going with it, huh? No, I'm really like, so that mean no hot food, raw vegan? So if somebody tell me I'm raw vegan, that mean no hot food? Yeah, because it's raw. You can't cook it. I thought it meant you just can't eat meat. Like, I thought, like, that's just vegan. Vegetables and, like, you can warm up pasta.

I started thinking, like, pasta. Like, what if I wanted some pasta? Vegetarian. Vegetarian is just no good. He clearly said vegetables and fruit. I'm gonna keep prolonging this, because I'm not gonna say I was wrong. Not wrong. You want to keep going?

No, we figured that out. All this brother knowledge shit, man. I just want to be Mr. Polite, brother polite. I thought you was asking me a question because you wanted to know. I didn't know you wanted me to agree with you. In that case, start it over. Ask me again. That's what I was saying.

Ask me what's raw vegan. Nothing, nothing. Raw vegan is shit you can put in the microwave. It is. For real. I knew it. Yeah, yeah. Sometimes it's hot. sometimes it's not.

Yeah, yeah. Well, speaking of being hot and being not, Anthony Davis and the Mavs hosted the Hawks last night as Dallas tried to maintain position in the playing race. Let's take a look at some highlights if we can, please. My good friend Paolo. So AD balled out 34 points, 15 rebounds, and five blocks in 30 minutes of work. He took an accidental elbow from Daniel Gafford early in the game, and after he went back to the

locker room to get some stitches, he got back to getting buckets. So to round out his dominant performance, we're going to take a look at some of that first. Look at these Mavs. They, you know, everybody minus Kyrie, of course, but got Lively back out there, got Gafford back out there, AD, back out there doing his thing.

Look at, oh, oh, that's a number one option right there. He got the keys. Oh, Clayton. Talking about these Mavs, too, obviously a disappointing, frustrating season,

especially with the departure of Luka Doncic in the trade. But they got AD. Hey. He was looking good with the big bandage over his eye. Bam. Four stitches. Still got Clay doing his thing as well. You see it.

But game on the line. Tie 118 apiece. AD drove to the hoop. Hit what would be the game-deciding bucket. Go-ahead basket with 3.4 seconds remaining. Trae Young had a chance to try to tie it up. Just a little bit short. Is that a 1?

Was that 3 free throws? No, it was not. You see AD came up with the big defensive stop to close out the game, seal the win for the Mavs. After the game, Clay Thompson said this about AD. He said, to have a closer and a two-way player like Anthony, we all rally around him.

We go as he goes. He's obviously our best player, so he did what he was supposed to do. That was incredible. So high praise from the four-time NBA champ right there. The Mavs are 5-1 with AD in the lineup this season. I'll start with you, Swaggy. How happy are you to see AD

back hooping as a number one option? Oh, man. Right there seeing that game last night, it does give you confidence in Dallas. You know, AD's always been a great player.

You know, it just happened he got traded for Luka, somebody that people see as better or could be potentially be better. I mean, just given Luka's resume so far, honestly, it's not a hard argument. That's what I'm saying.

We're not bashing AD. Yeah, I don't want to. We're not bashing AD. Yeah, I don't want to bash him. That's why. But AD, if Kyrie was playing and AD was playing like this, you know, there ain't too many bigs doing them type of moves AD doing out there. He look like the bubble AD right there. If he can do this next year and if Kyrie come back, they get a good

draft pick or get KD like you think so, I think they'll be good. So, Ryan, let's shift over to you. Obviously, AD had some injuries this season. First game back, playing with the Mavs. Got hurt in that game but was cooking. Has now come back. They're 5-1 with him in the

lineup. What do you think about AD out there? I just love him showing every facet of his game. You know, showing you the scoring, the rebounding, the defense, the injury. Like, he did all of it in one game. You know what I'm saying? That's my favorite part about watching A.D. from time to time. But I think he's reminded people since he's been back in Dallas that he's a top-ten player without a doubt.

I think sometimes you'd be under the allure of LeBron James that people forget just how great you are. And I think he is a better fit for this Dallas team the way it's constructed than Luka was. Yeah. I think both teams, if people forget that Mavs team was around 5'6 in the rank. Yeah. And then everybody got hurt. And if everybody doesn't get hurt,

that team is probably better constructed than the Lakers are to win right now. What? You talking about? Yeah. Now, the Lakers made some trades after the Luka trade that made the team more formidable now. But initially, when that trade went through, that was a better – I saw with the first game that he played before he got hurt, hurt his lower abdomen or groin or whatever, that that fit is great.

Because, one, he's an amazing defender, but he also has real bigs behind him. He has Gafford and Lively behind him, and he doesn't have to hover around the rim so much. Like, even when he plays defense on Trey on the last shot, he can do that, and it doesn't leave the paint unprotected. And I think that works very well for the Mavericks. You know, in a way, he couldn't do that with the Lakers. He came out of the paint when he was in L.A. Somebody's getting a free layup.

So, Gila, shift it over to you. I know you had some thoughts about it. You thought he probably should have just shut it down so they could get a better draft pick, but you see AD out there now. Mavs 5-1, with him playing dominant performance last night against the Hawks. Obviously not high-level elite NBA team,

but still good nonetheless to see him back out there doing it. What do you think about AD as a number one option with this Mavs squad? AD being a number one option or not has nothing to do with the franchise making a smart decision. Him winning games, y'all get into the playoffs and you mess up your draft pick that you inherited by all this bad mojo that's going around in that city,

right? I mean, you know, it's just like any stock, right? Sometimes you gotta take the option that's there. So him playing and you know winning games doesn't actually help them right because you get a top five pick because your your season was fucked up you can leverage that against any team you know this summer to get what you actually need so just doing it

knowing that you don't have a this is not a championship roster right you're gonna you're skating into the the playoffs to then get pushed out uh first seed maybe second i mean you know first round or second round but you're not going to win a championship so if i'm not going to win a championship what is the point i'm going to be exactly how san antonio was when they got Tim Duncan. Everybody just stays seated. We lose. We go down.

We get the top three picks. In this year's draft, those top four picks are game changers. The Mavs' odds of getting the top four pick obviously significantly declined with their success. Success of what? The last six games? What I'm saying is it wasn't a higher probability they were going to get a top four pick, top five pick.

These last six games going five and one obviously pushed you. With AD. But you don't think this, like, just brought some type of positive energy

inside that arena? Like, did you see them fans last night? They need something. I feel like that's what AD was thinking. He wasn't thinking

draft pick. I think everybody came back just to give the fans something, man. They can criticize, kill, you see. All right. All right. Was thinking he wasn't thinking draft. I think everybody came back just to give the fans something they can Criticize kill you see I'll pose this to you Gil Do you think there is any value in him showing that the that the Mavericks are in good hands with him and giving confidence back? To the fans well good good. Yeah good. Yeah, you can first three quarters for fourth quarters. Yeah go cool

I don't need you to win games. So you say. Cool. I don't need you to win games. So you're saying ball out. I don't need you to win games. But you could have did it without the game winner. Yes. Nobody realizes how Houston got all those picks. How they was getting those picks. Y'all don't remember. They traded.

Westbrook got John Wall, right? What did they do? John Wall, stay home. I don't need you to come in here, start winning enough games to get us out of this lottery pick. Yeah. So sit your ass home. We're going to pay for you to sit home.

Then we get these picks. That's exactly what happened. They paid a lot for him to stay home. Yeah, I'm paying you a lot for my future. So with AD, I already lost Kyrie. I got rid of fucking Grimes, right? So I know you're feeling good. If you want to go out there and play first couple quarters, mini restriction, cool.

But you can get the top four pick, top five pick. That pick right there, if you don't need it, you can use that against someone who's trying to. Listen. It's hard to lose it to the bottom five. There's some bad teams in the league right now, bro. Y'all was one of them. Y'all one of them. But they're still not going to make the playoffs though, Gil. But that's what I'm saying. You're good enough not to

get the reward. That's just like being the tallest midget. Like you... I think they could have dropped to top ten, eight maybe, but top five they could have had. top 10, 8 maybe, but top 5, they would have had. Like a 6 to 10 range, realistically, the chances of getting the top 4 pick. Okay, 6 to 10.

Now, where are you going to be now? 15 to 20? Why would you even do that? For what? That's significantly different. That's a big difference. That's a huge difference. That 6 pick, I can use this 6 pick.

They're still going to be in the line. Know what I'm saying? No, they're not. By the six pick. Yeah. They still going to be in the line. No, they're not. By the time they finish, they're not going to be in the line. I can use this six pick in A.A. Phoenix. Y'all trying to do something. I got the six pick, and I got this player with you. What's up? So you think they have a chance to actually make the playoffs?

Now, they're in the ninth spot right now. No. Probably where they will stay. There's too big of a margin for them in the eighth seed. But if they mess around, win that 9-10 playing game, have a chance to play for the eighth seed. But if they mess around, win that 9-10 playing game and have a chance to play for the eighth seed... Fucking rock out. Do you, AD.

But I tell you this. Let's say, by some miracle, they get that eighth seed and they beat OKC. Is it worth it? No. Not even moving forward, like, the excitement that it would give. The excitement this year

versus excitement next year. I was about to say it still wouldn't matter because they were in the finals last year. You know what I mean? It doesn't do nothing for you. It still doesn't do anything

unless they win the finals. You're not going to put a band-aid on losing Luka. It shows, though. If AD did something crazy like that, that shows something. Shows me what? If he get back to Pelican AD where he was giving people 40 in the playoffs. Forget about Luka.

But you just got traded for a guy who was giving us 33-9-9 and we went to the finals. So unless you get us to the finals it doesn't matter in their defense though i went like i said went to that first laker game that luca had he was fat yeah he was definitely he was the first person i saw with his jersey tucked in and bloused out so you can't see the stuff i've never seen he got real slim quick didn't he got he did yeah that oh hey them la uh them la diet pills do a good job for you, right? No, I'm just saying just me personally. Like, I'm looking at just the whole aura of it.

And the end result is this. The real question that we ask ourselves, can we win a championship this year with this team? The answer is no, then I'm not just going to be good enough to make anybody happy. But there's not a lot of teams in the league, though. I'm just saying. There's only realistically four or five teams that maybe can say that they can compete for the championship.

Yeah, but what I'm saying is our team right now, we're at a good point where we could. We'll be the best team in the lottery. Yeah. We will beat Golden State when they got a goddamn second pick of the draft. We can beat San Antonio. We can beat the Lakers when they got Magic Johnson. The dynasties are built because of something happened bad the year before,

and they took advantage of it. I tell people that all the time. Dynasties are built through injury. Dynasties are built through injury and bad trades from years before that somehow you end up in the lottery and you have Tim Duncan and David Robinson, Magic Johnson, you know what I mean, and Kareem.

Or you draft it. Like, people forget the Golden State Dynasty is made because Steph got hurt. When Steph got hurt, he signed a terrible contract, and that left enough space for KD to walk in. A team that's already winning 70 games shouldn't even have space for somebody like KD. But it was because of injury and contracts. That's how dynasties are made.

But they're still going to be in the lottery. You know, they, if this is a great game to show AD, I think now you can't top this game. I think you sit everybody and just lose out. You can't top this game. You're going to lose out.

You can't, because you're not going to make, I said they're not going to make the playoffs. I don't think that even if they go, they're going to lose to OKC. Ain't no way.

Yeah. But, you still, they, I just said that they're not going to make the playoffs. I don't think that even if they go, they're going to lose to OKC. Ain't no way. Yeah. But you still, they, I just said that they're not going to make the playoffs. But this is a great game for AD. Don't lose out. You need the fans, need something to feel like. It's so much negative energy over there in Dallas. You see somebody out there giving it, giving his all when you know you don't have a chance and you going at your best player going out there playing defense getting hit in the head coming back in the game making

game winners game winning defensive plays okay that shows all right y'all who i don't know this so you know this is a narrative that's that's pushed i don't know if i didn't play is there value to gaining chemistry throughout the rest of the year to set you up to be in a better position next year? Not if we change the team in the summer. You know what I mean? Because, you know, if they decide,

if Kyrie opts out... That's the one question. If Kyrie opts out, I'm pretty sure they're not going to pay him. You know, you want to pay Luke, you might not pay him because he's injured. So you're going to lose him. I'm pretty sure if I had a top five pick, I could trade him. I could trade him with that pick.

Yeah. Right? I mean, it's just one of those things. There's so much leverage in your pick now. I got it. Everything has changed. The circumstances have changed. So this year, right now, it's not going to help us for next year because the summer hits,

we don't know what the fuck is going on. We don't know what anybody's doing. That is the big question mark right now. Most of their core is obviously under contract for at least through next season and the next couple of seasons. Kyrie has that player option for $44 million. Oh, he's going to take that. Yeah.

He's going to take it. Yeah, he'll take it, but let's say you got Dylan Harper, right? Let's say somehow you got Dylan Harper, you got the second pick, you got a point guard, right? I got Kyrie, this, hey, you want to give us KD? Yeah, fuck around and say yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, they was never getting the second pick.

I'm saying you don't know. We all know. Stranger things the second pick. You don't know. We all know. Stranger things are happening. So we don't know. So they still in the line. New York getting

motherfuckers. They still in the lottery. New York getting Ewing. Oh yeah. Chicago getting Derrick Rose.

Yeah. We know. LeBron getting LeBron. Oh nigga we know. Trust me. Here's my question for you, though. I mean, the guy who's practicing during his senior year

in the goddamn practice facility. But you talk about, oh, those things, it was beneficial for the league in those moments to make those things happen, getting LeBron to Cleveland, getting Patrick Ewing to the Knicks.

I don't feel like the league is fucking with the Mavs right now, right? Mavs' ownership has kind of come in and say, we strong-arming, traded their franchise player, we want some other things going on. We want them to be seen on the arena. But if I'm the league, why am I going to say I'm going to give y'all a good pick to make

this happen? What benefits the league? Yeah, I'm telling you. AD over here or Luka in New York? Which benefits the NBA? Luka in L.A. benefits the league. Luka going to L.A., which means the whole league eats.

Even Dallas. Everything trickles down. So you think the league won't give them back on the return? What are y'all talking about? I believe the league. Oh, you good. I was just saying I believe the league do that, and maybe that's because I'm a Hornets fan.

But I think the league makes concessions for other teams. A lot of people don't pay attention to us as the Hornets fan, but I think the league makes concessions for other teams. A lot of people don't pay attention to us as the Hornets, but we had Nick Richards who was averaging a double-double. We had Mark Williams averaging a double-double. They traded Nick. I went to the game. Nick Richards was killing Phoenix. And we beat Phoenix.

And then we traded Nick Richards to Phoenix for Josh Okoji, and we are loaded at the forward position. So I'm like, okay, Mark Williams, we're going to keep Mark Williams. Then we trade Mark Williams to the Lakers. Let me get him back. Because he didn't pass the physical, but we were trading. No, he passed the physical, man.

He passed. He passed? Yeah, he just finished doing a Lemon Daddy commercial. He had a whole little billboard, so there's like a little rollout for him. And we wasn't playing that shit, man. Oh, okay. Because I was like, now when the Hornets traded him for Connect, it was another forward.

Now we got no centers. Why would a team with two centers that average a double-double trade their centers away to two contending teams and then get forwards back that they can't use. One contending team, one team is the Suns. Nah, the Suns are technically contending. They're contending for something. For something.

But you know what they needed? A center. And we gave them one. And the Lakers, you know what they needed? The center. And we was going to give them one for Dalton Connect, which makes absolutely no sense. That makes more sense for y'all. At the time that we broke the record, it was like a lockout year.

We didn't even win 10 games. We were supposed to get the number one pick, but the Pelicans didn't have an owner. And just so happened, AD ends up going to the Pelicans. When it comes to stuff like that, I always believe the NBA has vested interest in stuff happening, so I'm not against them possibly getting a number two pick if, you know.

I just sold you a team and LeBron James on it and LeBron leaves and you're like, what the fuck? I just bought this franchise. Guess what you get. Don't even worry about it. Guess what you get. Number one pick, number two pick, number one pick, number four pick, number one pick, number five. Did you see? Yeah, man, they got Bennett, Kyrie, everything.

I mean, y'all just fucked up on who y'all picked, but y'all was handed easy cookies. They had number one and number four. They got Kyrie and Tristan Thompson. Number one, number four, but they got a number one. I mean, they had, like, what, three number one picks? They had three number ones in that time. Yeah.

But that's not falling out of the lolly, no matter what. No, what I'm saying is, but you gave up Luka. There's not falling out of the lottery. No, what I'm saying is, but you gave up Luca. There's a reason. Right? This wasn't just I don't give a fuck what nobody said. I believe when you do stuff like that, you get rewarded. Listen, I don't give a fuck what people talking about. He's fat.

He's smoking hookah. Whatever the fuck you want to say. Right? There was a reason your hand was forced and you were going to get rewarded. Yeah. You remember me. I got in trouble. Remember, I got in trouble, right? I got in trouble. They traded everybody else. They traded everybody.

And then they got the number one pick that was a what? Point guard. Yep. And could have got boogie. Chose the point guard. Mm-hmm. Crazy.

You know, like we talked about, you were out in New York, McDonald's All-American game the last two days. AD had some interesting quotes in the interview with Mark Spears from Anscaped about the trade and who knew what and when they knew it. But seeing the way AD's playing now, and you understanding it...

What'd he say? What? What'd he say? Let me pull it up. Hold on. Don't just say it. Let me see what he said. Let me pull it up. I thought you synced it.

I did, but I want you to reeked it. For the people who didn't see it. Computer lagging. Oh, there we go. Hold on one second. He said, so they say about the trade. Hold on one second.

In the meantime, download the Underdog app, use promo code Gil, get up to $1,000 in bonus cash plus a special pick. And that's me stalling because my computer is froze. There we go. So in that interview with Mark Spears on Anscape, I want to see if actually you paste that in for me. I appreciate it. I got gotta go back and find it. Oh the 80s quote? I'm getting fired. No that's why I don't come to work man. This is why? You talking about the 80s quote? ESPN would have been faster than this is all I'm saying.

ESPN would have. I'm just saying. So he said, so the quote is, he asked him about what the like said, I'm great, I don't feel it, but a lot of people have been coming to me and telling me they haven't seen me smile like this in a long time. Obviously the first maybe 48 hours, it was just a shock because I wasn't expecting it. Nobody was expecting it, so they say. But I know from my side, my team, my family, and everybody who works with me, I wasn't expecting it, even when I was getting some of the calls about the trade, I thought guys were playing.

So the key in that is the so they say. It was just a shock because I wasn't expecting it. Nobody was expecting it, so they say. But should AD have a grudge with the Lakers for how they handled the trade? So how was they supposed to handle it? Tell you so you can leak it and then the trade don't happen? I'm trying to figure out what the problem is here. But even in the aftermath of it, if you're AD, are you still feeling some type of way about that move?

Are you happy now that, because ultimately, like we talked about on Tuesday, if I'm AD, I got traded for Luka, I can't really be salty about it. No, no, you can't be mad. People put me on that level. It's a lot of pressure, but you can't be mad because you got traded for a top-tier player. Like, you're top 10, he's top 5. He's arguing that he's the top 5 player in this league, at least top 10. He's in front of you. So, you know, being salty about it, no, you can't be salty about it.

Disappointed that they didn't let you know. For what? So you can fuck it off? I don't get why you should know that this was going to happen. Everybody who should have known, knew. How about that? I don't give a fuck who you say.

LeBron, James, whatever. Whoever needed to know new. Do you believe he's happier now than he was in the past? Well, there's ways to tell people you're getting traded. You don't have to tell them for who. There's ways to tell somebody that you might be been talking to people.

Then what if you don't want to get traded? You don't got a no trade? You got a no trade clause? No. Apparently not. There's so many ways to leak it. What if he put his house on sale? You don't have to tell him it's for Luca, though. How about this?

If you got traded, they let you know. When you got traded, they let you know. No, they didn't. Well, they let me know. They did? Yeah. Now imagine if you was telling me you're about to trade me and I want to leave. What you think I'm going to do next?

Sabotage. What you think I'm going to do? You know me. I don't want to leave. What you think I'm going to personally do? Pretend I'm hurt? Twist my ankle, hurt my knee so, you know, I can't pass anything. Like, I'm not going to, if I don't want a person to leave and I'm not ready to leave,

I'm going to make sure you can't trade me. But you don't know when they told him. It could be already signed and sealed. You still didn't tell him. I told you as soon as you asked. He found out like we found out. Yeah, as you should. So once that shit is signed sign and seal you can leave I think I think I got a call just a little bit

Once the trailer made upon but prior to that actually be you didn't come to prime. I wasn't fucking everything up. Yeah Finding out what the world is That is kind of crazy got a got a call before I think all the bus times out. You hear them say your name. I mean, I... You're like, what are they talking about me for? I live in Dallas now. Yeah, you're like... I mean, some people find out.

Like, at least he found out before. Some people find out on their phone or when they landed. Mm-hmm. So why is he saying that if he found out after? At least they told him before it was out there. Hey, man, listen. He said he's, what did he say? Happier now.

Cool. They ain't seen him smile like this in a while. They have not seen him smile in a long time. Obviously, maybe like the first 48 hours was just a shock, because I wasn't expecting it. Nobody was expecting it. So they say. Both of y'all have played for competing teams

and teams that wasn't going to do nothing. Is there like more freedom or happiness where there's no pressure of competing? I don't know. I've never been treated in a place where... Like, when I got traded, I was ready to leave. Yeah. Right?

I ain't packed. I was at the airport before the trade. I was actually in the gym. I was in Orlando before it was even done. They told me, yeah, this is a 50% chance. Bet. That's all I need. Took a pair of shoes.

They had a game that night. I took a pair of shoes, went straight to the airport and was in that city. I was like, what you doing here? You flew commercial? Huh? You flew commercial to Orlando? Yeah. Was anybody on the flight like, what the fuck is Gilbert Reedus doing on my flight to Orlando? You think I heard people for all I heard was,

I'm going to a new city, man. Yeah. I was already house shopping every day. The trade didn't even happen yet. That's how happy I was to get out of there. So, you know,

that was a trade that I was willing to take. Why'd you hate it there so much at that point? I didn't hate it. You know what I mean? It's like, you know, you got called out

for some shit. Everybody looking at you now. You know, when niggas look at you, they're like, damn, dawg. You know what I mean? It's like you got called out for some shit. Everybody looking at you now. When niggas look at you, they're like, damn, dog. You know, man, we really had hope for you. It was like ashamed. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's like Tiger Woods when he got called out for all them hoes.

You know what I mean? You didn't want to talk to nobody. You didn't want to talk. All girls around you are like, yeah, watch out. You know what I mean? You didn't want to talk to nobody. You didn't want to talk. All girls around you were like, yeah, watch out. You know what I mean? And that's how it was. It was more me being ashamed of getting in trouble like really, you know, like everybody just used to be like.

It was the disappointment. It was the disappointment. I was just going to a city where they didn't really have a lot of black folks. That I thought. They do have a Disney World. That I thought. Damn, this is... Woo!

Hey, y'all built this right in the hood, huh? This is real cheap over here. Do you remember what airline you took? I'm just curious. What? Because the chat's saying Southwest.

I just want to make sure you were flying. I didn't even know that wasn't even... Is Southwest in D.C.? I don't... No, it's probably in D.C., not in Dulles.

Yeah, sorry. Three-fight. It was private. It's probably in DC, not in Dulles. Yeah, sorry. Three fire. It was private. It was United and then American. Okay. We didn't even do Delta. Which one has mint? That's JetBlue, a fine airline. Yeah, that came after. We didn't have mint. It was before that.

Live back seats. First class, right there, ready to go. First seat, buckhead. First. So it's me out. In back seats. First class right there, ready to go. First seat, Buckhead. First. So it's me out. In the bucket. Damn, yeah, that was a sad time, boy. Were you really sad or were you just like... He looked like he was begging for change. You see his face? He came up here. I said, what the fuck is this? I started handing him chains. I'm like, who is you, man? He came to me. It was just sad, man. That's why I made him come stay with me.

I was like, man, come on, man. Just come live with me, man. That's not why I stayed with you. Can I tell my side of the story? Tell your side of the story. Can I tell my side? So I was like, come live with me, man. I'd help him out. He changed his number to fucking nine.

What was it? It was nine, right? Yeah, we heard Jeff Teague's story. Who the fuck was that? Talking about seeing Gil in the number nine and saying, ugh. Walked in the locker and said, who the fuck? You got something. Yeah.

I don't really think about your Orlando years like that. Yeah, man, he turned into a corner. I got all my heroes, nine Michael Jordan Olympics. Man. Yeah. You wasn't Michael Jordan then. I know. I was not Jordan.

You was Marcus. You was Marcus. You was Marcus Jordan then. Do you think people purposely try not to acknowledge, first-team all-star Gilbert arenas all the time when they don't like your takes or they when you talk about basketball they act like you wet and one of them guys no yeah they try like you know when you when you make a when I make a take on you know something that has to do with character how can you talk about character?

You brought guns to the locker room. I didn't. Yeah, I was fucked up. You know what I mean? I'm trying to make sure he don't fall down the same path. Like, I knew I was doing wrong, but it was allowed in my environment. Yeah. You know what I mean?

So it wasn't wrong to me. It was. Yeah. I know. No, sometimes your environment changes you you and you end up doing stuff. Like sometimes, I knew this one guy, his environment messed him up.

He would be in games and he would go, like, all kinds of wild shit, you know? So, yeah. I ain't gonna lie. I shot a motherfucker

in the locker room during a gun. Gun meeting. During a gun meeting with the NBA. Jesus. Yeah, so it was real wild back in my day, man. Shot me. BB gunner?

I didn't want to say who I shot. The whole world know this story. And I'm preaching Sarges, too. That's your limitations, right? You ain't got no witnesses. All the motherfuckers in here. You really think they going to be witnesses, Dick? They pretend that they ain't see it, huh?

Yeah, they kept talking. Well, it was right when, what's the dude shot his head? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. They think they're going to be witnesses, Nick. They pretended they didn't see it, huh? Yeah, they kept talking.

Well, it was right when, what's the dude who shot himself in the club? Plaxico Burns. Yeah, it was right after they came. They was going around talking about having guns and stuff. Boom! I said, ah. Hey, so what are we talking about? Put the gun on the thing.

So, hey, how long are we going to be in here, man? We got practice, man. Hey, so what we talking about? Put the gun on the thing. So, hey, how long we going to be here, man? We got practice, man. This is crazy. All over here with this extra shit we all want to talk about. Yeah, because they're after practice. Because they're not a part of our team. They just, they speak.

So they have no authority here. It's like going to talk to Pablo Escobar in Colombia. Y'all don't have no authority. All right. Yeah, that's a wizard thing. It's like going to talk to Pablo Escobar in Colombia. Y'all don't have no authority. It's made me think about the movie Blow when he first saw me meet him. That was... He framed me through yours. Yeah, we're just sitting here like, hey, y'all ready? This shit boring.

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today to get 10% off your first month. That's betterHelp, H-E-L-P dot com slash arena. All right, well, let's shift over to a little... Why'd you read that like then? Well, because it was in the script right there. I just felt like this was a great moment. I had caught that shit off the glass. We all need BetterHelp sometimes. Right off of it.

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Good-ass therapist, too. BetterHelp giving us a discount. But shift over a little bit. You know who's really fired? Y'all should go play. Fired the therapist. Came in the meeting, like, because they had, like, the young people try her, test her out.

And we start bawling after we seen her. So she came in there, like, y'all should be like Nick. And then he said, you want us to be like him? Walked up, got up, and said, man, I don't know why I'm here. You want me to be like him? You want me to be like Andre Blasch? I don't know why I'm here. You want me to be like him? You want me to be like Andre Blas? I don't know why I'm here, man. I'm out of this motherfucker.

I didn't see her no more. Fired her ass. This just stings, Zach. I'm okay. He was fucked up. Imagine being you and then they say, yeah, I need you to be like this because they had two good games. Y'all.

You got two good giggles in your goddamn life. Yeah, man, y'all. Ballin'. Two good... 14 and 16. That's what I'm saying. They didn't want me to prosper at the Wizards. That's why I'm like, fuck that shit about prospering. That's what I'm saying.

Ever since. It's just called real... It's Angel Dust, man. It's called reality, man. So, let's talk a little bit about the Lakers. As we approach the end of the regular season, there's a lot of campaigning for different awards going on around the league. One person who is not campaigning for his player to win Most Improved is J.J. Redick,

who took the conversation in a different direction yesterday when asked if he thinks Austin Reeves will win it. Here's the clip. I hate that award because they failed to define it. And I think the spirit of it has been taken out of whack. I don't like that award. Just call it the high draft pick that is on a max contract and now is an all-star. Just call it that award. Who's that guy? That's what it's become. If you're making the case for Austin. Am I wrong? But he wouldn't be that guy. Don McLean won it. Bobby Simmons won it. No, I'm saying that's what it's become. You could speak to the voters right now.

What in the last five years has it become? I don't think that's necessarily working. To Reddick's point, out of the last five winners for most improved player, four of them have been top seven picks in Laurie Markin and John Moran, Julius Randall and Brandon Ingram. Only Tyrese Maxey, who won it last year, was not a lottery pick. He was selected 21st overall in the 2020 draft. Also to Reddick's point, this season's current favorite is 2021 number one overall pick, Cade Cunningham.

We just happen to have the 2002-03 Most Improved Player Award winner on this couch right here. So Gil, your path to winning that award was different than the guys I just described. Do you agree with J.J JJ Reddick's point that the spirit of what the Most Improved Player Award means has been lost? He's, huh? He said it hasn't been defined. It says clearly, Most Improved. Literally what I was going to say if you didn't say it. The description is in the award. The Most Improved, I think to Reddick's point. No. What his point is, this is not

rookie of the year, meaning rookies, right? You know, steals leader, right? Who got the most steals. MVP, most valuable player, right? Block shot champ. Yeah. Most improved, right? There's no category. Whoever is the

most improved from one year to the next year. But it's in the league. There's no number where you got drafted for you not to be eligible for the most improved player. Me improve? How is Cade Cunningham improved? By winning? And his numbers, kind of? How much he averaged?

You said he's the leader? Cade Cunningham right now amongst the favorites to win most improved player this year. So last season, for reference, last season he averaged 23, 8 assists, 4 rebounds. This season he's averaging 26. So he proved 3, 4, 5, 4 rebounds. This season he's averaging 26. So he improved 3 rebounds. 9 assists. So 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. So he has a 7-point improvement.

From points, rebounds, and assists combined. Yeah, points, assists, and rebounds. Okay, so look at Reeves because it's probably similar. Papá de Limón. Yeah, who's second? So I'll give you Austin Reeves. Oh, Papá won last year. So Austin Reeves last season averaged 15.9,

six assists, four rebounds. This season he's averaging 20, six assists, five rebounds. Maxie won last year. Yeah, Maxie won last year. Yeah, which completely debunks what he says because Maxie was not a lottery pick. And then Maxie, let's go from this to the jump.

So even with so Cade would be in front of Reeves. But that's what I'm saying. Because Reeves is only a full point. He only, like, is only points. He hasn't got better in rebounds, so he's only a plus four. Cade is a plus seven. So Maxie, his year that he won it, the

previous year he averaged 20 points, four assists, three rebounds, and then the year he won it, he averaged 26, six assists, four rebounds. But he made an all-star, which is... How much did he average the first year? For Tyrese Maxey? 20 points, 3.5 assists, 2.9 rebounds. The year he won it, he averaged 26.6 assists.

That's a big gap. That's two different players, 20 and 26. That's all I'm saying. That's two different guys. I don't think that's supposed to be improved, though. Yeah. Like, what Powell averaged last year for the Clippers? Powell.

Oh, no. Norman Powell. Norman Powell, my bad. Powell. Powell, OP Carroll. Powell, OP Carroll. No. Powell.

Norman Powell. Norman Powell. That's okay. So Norman Powell. So let me give it to you. He would have won it, but he don't qualify. Yeah, he's not eligible to win. He's not going to play enough games.

But he probably would have been the clear-cut winner. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, not even close. 14 points per game last season. He's averaged a 22.4 this year. So, yeah, he has a 9, 10, 11 point. He started three games last year, started all 55 games that he played in. That's what I feel most improved should be.

No, no, no. He's not going to play enough games. No, what I'm saying is he would have won. All-stars shouldn't be able to get. Oh, that's crazy. No, that's what makes you an improvement. If I didn't play, like let's say I averaged 16, right, and then I averaged 20, and then I make the all-star, I am part of the most improved.

Very much improved. If I'm averaging 23 and I improve by 26, I'm already balling. No next year I'm going to... There's rebounds, points, and assists. You've got to add up everything. And there's other stats. What if his turnovers have gone down?

What if his, you know what I mean? I'm playing for the team. True shooting is better. It's the feel. But it's still the feel. It's anybody. If you average 21 years and you is better. It's the feel. But it's still the feel. It's anybody. If you average 21-year and you average 30, that's an improvement. But this all plays back to the 65-game minimum because you look at Norm Powell's jump.

That's what I feel like. That's similar to you. You started three games last year. But he's not eligible because he's a five-game. It ain't no other players like Powell in the league. By averaging for someone to jump seven points in total, that's hard. That's a different jump. That's why I said when Jordan went from the year he hurt his foot

to the very next year averaging 37, he should have won most improved. Clearly. Somebody else beat him that had a big jump too. But, nah, for you to be a player, may not even be the face of your franchise, and then go to being an all-star, that is a huge, that says a lot about your improvement. Because not only are you, because to be an all-star,

that means somebody who was an all-Star last year, you have now outplayed them. I think that speaks to how great your improvement is. I don't think that's fair to be like, just because somebody's an All-Star that they should be excluded from that. You're talking about Cade here, right?

So you got Cade, former number one pick. I think Cade has made a significant jump in where he ranks amongst best players in the league. Yeah, for sure. But got his first all-star game this year. I think should be in consideration for all NBA as well, just based on what he's doing, based on what the Pistons are doing in the jump. The historic jump they made, tripling their win total.

Yeah, and you know it's because of him. I don't think that... Who else on the Pistons do you really give the credit to for that team turning it around like that? It's Cade. Watch the games. It's him. So give that man the credit for that. I don't like the idea

of acting like there's some type of bias or just because you got picked in the lottery, your hard work don't matter no more. I think that's the wrong message. I think that's the wrong message. That's why it's never been like that. That's why it's most improved. But it's turned into that, though. No, it's not.

It's players out there. Maxie won last year. You can't say that. A player like Peyton from Boston, who averaged what? Eight points last year? That's averaging 15 almost now. That's improving. Six men?

Yeah. He won in a war last year. Yeah. He didn't win in six men? No. He can this year, though. And Chaz saying a guy like Dyson Daniels. So let's just look at his numbers.

He averaged six points per game last year. He's averaging 14 points, 3.1 steals. He's more than doubled his steals total from last year to this season. And he'll be the steals leader. Dyson Daniels from the Hawks. He's obviously in the running for even defensive player of the year from what he's done. Right.

More than likely Make a was he is he second? Hmm? Is he actually second? That's a conversation though that right there is a yes wait one. We got two extra steals wait So this is wait. This is nine ten eleven twelve thirteen Fourteen he's gonna win it yeah, so he has he has some of the high sides and some some yeah He's gonna actually win it. This is a 14-point improvement across the board. He's up nine points, two steals, two rebounds, damn near,

and two assists. He's going to actually win the award. Improving two steals while already averaging a steal a game. He's going to win it. The year before. But the name, like name like K-Kill held my outshine. 100% he is going

to win this award. This is the most important. I'll tell you this, if he doesn't win, they should really look into looking at who's voting. It's become a...

But here's the other question. Shooting field goal percentages up, shooting three-point percentages up. Yeah. You know, he's winning the award.

And we talk about wins and how they— It's not even close. Wins shouldn't impact the individual discussion, but you got the Hawks, AFC, you got the Pistons right now, fifth in the East, obviously tripled their win total from the previous season. So when you talk about when you think the Pistons, you think Cade Cunningham. Is that going to have some bearing on it? And Cade is obviously a bigger name than Dyson Daniels.

Yeah, but Dyson is defensive player of the year, arguably. See, and that's going to be a thing, too. You win an award, you improved. Cade didn't make the change. He might not win defensive player of the year. No, no, no. This is going to be. He might not, but he's going to be top three in that.

And this becomes the argument because this is going to go down to this. Daniels is going to be first team, right? Oh, first team. Right, first team. Cade might win or might be on an all-NBA team. So you got two people who really improved individually, right? Cade, you had Tobias. You added pieces, right? Thisade, you had Tobias. You added pieces, right?

This is still a young team. So it's going to be one of those things where it's going to go down to just these two. I don't know what Mobley, I don't know what he jumped up, but it just seems like these two. Oh, my man out of Memphis jumped up crazy, too. The power forward, Junior. Jared Jackson?

Jared Jackson, Junior. Yeah, he's kind of... Where is he at? But Daniels has the biggest eyes right now, right? Daniels is getting a lot of love for obviously what he's doing on the defensive side, leading the league in steals. What's his biggest eyes? You'll never hear about it.

So in some books, he's ahead of Cade, and then Cade's ahead of him in some other ones, which is very compelling and interesting. But like I said, Cade's star power put him above. But the only people that I've seen win it that just doesn't meet the criteria is people who only had three or four plus from the previous before, but they won an award. So that was Maxie over White or Kobe White. And then Drogic over, I forgot who was over Drogic, or who he was over.

He won an award, I think Lance Stevenson, it was like something with Lance Stevenson. And then you had Sixth Man of the Year in Orlando back in what, 2000? Coming off the bench, what was his name? Who was six man? Larkson? No, 2000, year 2000.

Larkson? No, no, 2000 with Doc Rivers. They're Armstrong, when he won. Oh, he did, yeah. He was six man, but he won six man of the year, which. In 2000 or 01? Oh, one of them years. Hold on, let me double check.

It was 99. Oh, 99. Okay, yeah, because I was going to say, yeah, Rodney Rogers got a 2000, but... Legend Rodney Rogers. So Gil, you've won Most Improved Player Award the year prior. And I said I wasn't, I told him I really wasn't the most improved. You went from 10.9 points per game to 18.3 points per game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not even going to brag about that. They should have gave that to somebody else because, I mean... You were already on the jump. Yeah, I went from 10 because,

you know, like how Bronny's starting off, those playing one minute, two minutes, you know, yeah, but when I started, when I started, I averaged 18. So I really wasn't improving. I really didn't improve as much as what I said in my speech. I didn't improve. I was just balling.

I just got an opportunity. It just, unfortunately, you know, them coming in for 32 seconds, shit like that, had to total down. My coach sub patterns. But once I became the starter, you know, at the second half of the season, yeah, I was doing all this, what y'all seeing right now. Yeah.

Kind of like a down year. I don't like this. Kind of like a down year, you know what I mean? So y'all can get it. Who's runner up? You know, they can have this little shit, you know what I mean? I did'all can get it. Who's running up? You know, they can have this little shit. You know what I mean? I was cocky with it.

Huh? I jumped from 7 to 18. You didn't win the war? No. You went from 7 to 18? Jesus. Get the fuck out of here. Look at Gil trying to confirm.

Yeah, I got it. Everybody pulling their phones out. Everybody pulling their phones out. We got to see it with your own eyes. And then you're like, Why you go to Google? Because I got to see the truth. Swaggy, you went from 8.6 to 17.4. That's what I said. 8.6 to 17.4.

Close. And you didn't win? Whoa. Who beat you? Damn. Kevin Love. What? Cooper Flacco. Hold on. He got 9, 10, 11. In their defense, though... You're plus 11? You literally scored more points.

You literally didn't do nothing else. What else was I supposed to do? I'm trying to give you benefit of the doubt everywhere else. That's all he needed to do. It happened to him. So, were you running her up? Nigga, I wasn't mentioned. Wasn everywhere else. That's all he needed to do. It happened to him. So, were you running her up? Nigga, I wasn't mentioned. Wasn't mentioned. That's crazy. Because the only reason, yeah, so Kevin Love made the All-Star. So he went

six. Damn. Six. Ten. He was plus ten, but he made the All-Star that year. Who the fuck came in second? They did you dirty not mentioning you, though. That's crazy. Because he, I mean, that's what, so like.

The real, I think, the real. Because he made an all-star, so that is kind of like most of them. That's when he was doing the love and the shower and all that stuff to try to make an all-star. Damn, you were tied for 14th. That's all I thought, that wasn't even mentioned. That's hate.

Oh, they hated on you, for sure. Yeah, that's hate, dog. That's what I thought. That wasn't even mentioned. That's hate. Oh, they hated on you, for sure. Yeah, that's hate, dog. That's them Wizards, boy. You tried to ball at the wrong time. Hey, but that's why I'm glad you on here, though. Because can't nobody tell you a story like you. I would have never known that. You got to let these niggas know, Nick.

Would have never known. I would have never known. Because I didn't even know. Because once I got traded, I never looked at a wizard again. Man, you was out there killing, dog. Yeah. Oh, I was in a halfway house. Wait, was I in Orlando? Where was I?

Just casually said that like it's a normal thing people do. Yeah, like it's normal. Oh, yeah, you know. Damn's why I didn't have it. Damn, that's good shit, man. Yeah. And now you're in a hallway house. I didn't kill you when you came to this. When we played y'all, they was mad I didn't shoot that much.

Man, tie for 14. So, NBA has most improved player award. So, Ryan, I got a question for you. Should the NBA have a least improved player award to motivate you to keep working on their game? I would love that. I would love that. They're not going to do it, but I would love that.

But you didn't get no better. Yo, you didn't get no better. They might as well do a top fucking 30 on O. And it can't be. And not to confuse it with consistency. It's got to be like if somebody was doing like 17-4-4 and they came back 17-4-4, nah, that's cool. But you three 1-1 niggas that got more minutes and came back 3-1-1?

Yeah. Yeah, nigga, you can take this award with you. Nah, you can't do that. Yeah. Three? These would be salty, dog. What? Yo, you averaged a three last year. You averaged three points a game

on ten minutes. That ain't getting you 20. You still average three. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. When your minutes go up and your numbers don't go up. Yeah, take this award. It's gonna get better. Let all the players vote on it. Like, dog, you ain't getting no better. Who will win it right now?

No, let's not go there. This is Gills Arena. There's got to be a criteria. There's got to be a criteria of at least starters. Because I'm telling you, listen. Is somebody on Phoenix? Is somebody on Phoenix? Didn't get better

from last year. On Philly? You got Phillies, Phoenix. The chat has some thoughts, so keep them to myself. Let me see. We got to live here, as they say. Ooh. I don't know. That's fucked up.

Don't do it good. All right. Y'all don't do it, but I'm going to Google. The name they said, I'm like, that makes sense. He plays in Dallas right now. That will make sense. Oh, no. That will make sense.

Compared to last year to this year. Yeah, but I like his headband. That's so unnecessary. Let's keep this thing moving. Let's talk about it. Let me Google it and see if it just. No, don't even do it, Gil. That's why you can't look at the chat during the show. He's a friend, Gil. That's why you can't look at the chat during the show.

He's a friend of the show, man. You can't look at the chat during the show, Gil. Yeah, he would be in a category. They're very diabolical, but let's keep this thing moving. Man, y'all fucked up, chat. Chat, you ain't... The chat said it. It ain't Gil.

But that's the problem. Gil gives his energy from the chat. He look at it. For sure. Not because of the name. I was like, actually, Dan, that's a good one. Yeah, it was first to It's the first thing like that they had all We have the chair first day who wanted you're better now

So we have to chat who should we most improve player 54% said Kay Cham, 46% said Dyson Davis. That's what I'm talking about. It's the name. Cade's star-powered name value and what the Pistons are doing now is going to really help elevate them. The winning plays a part. But let's talk about more positive things here in the arena. SGA dropped the game-high 33 points last night as the Thunder beat the Pistons, who were without Cade Cunningham.

Thunder won their 11th straight game and proved their league best record to 64-12, which ties the overall franchise record for most wins in a season with the 95-96 Seattle Sonics. Obviously, they moved to OKC. OKC had already set the record for most wins for an OKC team. Now it's the entire Sonics-Thunder franchise. So we had a special guest pull up to the arena

this past weekend during a Battle Mode episode. Vaughn Alexander, Shays Pops and Nikhil Alexander Walker's uncle came through to chop some game. You already know we had to talk about the MVP race. When Mr. B asked Mr. Alexander why SGA was the real MVP, here's what he had to say.

Yo, do you believe your son is the MVP? 100%, fam. 100%. And like I said, not just because he's my son. If he wasn't my son, I'd be like, yo, son is the MVP? 100% 100% and like I said not just as my son if he wasn't my son I'd be like yo this is the MVP bro. Yeah, okay No, and like I said, I rate what your kids do where they'll kids do it is crazy Let's keep it real like I don't want to say this on here But if he wasn't to win it, I wouldn't be like oh you guys know because what he's doing bro is stupid Yeah, it really is. Let's keep it real. But having said all that, fuck that. Shake them.

That's what I wanted to hear. Two fucking 30-point games. First team all NBA three years straight. He's playing on the youngest team. 61 wins. What are they, Denver? Got like 13, 14 games behind the stock. Just give it to them this year.

So we all know Joker had that monster 60-point triple-double. Gil, you weren't on the couch, but back early March, you said Joker was going to have an MFU, that's my trophy type of game. After you made those comments a day or two later, he dropped the 31-20-20 game on the Suns. Seen him drop the 60-point triple-double against the Wolves. Listen, I'm going to just

be honest, man. Y'all better stop bringing Dwight Houser up. I'm going to just be honest with you because I don't know if y'all noticed ever since the bubble, he's been fucking people up because the bubble is where he got shut down and we won that championship.

He's done won three MVPs since that bubble trying to go for his fourth. So he's basically just basically letting y'all know that he's a new he's a new Negro. A new Negro. Yeah. A new Negro. And I hope he said that verbatim. I got Negroes in

Serbia. Yeah. He's one of them. Everywhere. Yeah. We just ain't got no son lately because ain't no way you keeping the vendetta this goddamn long, brother. Yeah. Because you won it last year, this year. As much as you want to say yeah, we can can give it to Shea, he's not giving up. That's the problem.

He's not giving up. Like, right now, he's at 29.7. He's about to average 30. That's what he's trying to do. He's about to average 30 with the triple-double. So this ain't no 25 and a 10 and 12. He's about to average 30 10 and 12.

Maybe 10 and 13. So he's not just letting this happen. I can tell you this. That bullshit what I say Perks did, it was Perks who said MB should win the MVP. And that kind of flipped the whole race.

If anybody actually looked back, Jokic was averaging a triple-double, and after people started pushing for Embiid, he kind of let off the gas. Yeah. And said, all right, man, fuck all this. He's not letting off the gas now. So you think he cares.

So this whole idea that he don't care about basketball and he care about his horses or whatever, you think he's paying attention to everything. We don't say he don't care about basketball. He just treats basketball like a day job. I'm talking about the fan. I'm talking about the fan. I'm not talking about...

You can't be that good and not care about basketball. Yeah, for sure. It's obvious. But what I'm saying is this whole narrative that these things aren't important. You believe that they are important to him. Fuck yeah. His family is basketball. Like, his family is basketball. Okay.

Like, his brothers left the country and came to America to play basketball. His dad and my, they are basketball nuts. He was left by himself to say, if you want to go to America, you better be like your brothers. That is, that's their life. Okay. Right? It just doesn't,

how he plays it, he plays it nonchalant. But of course he cares like the narrative that they plot guarantee you if if if if somebody picked up the white howard he's gonna try to get that motherfucker 70 30 and 30 on him he's gonna try some will it like because that that is what if you look at how he finished and look at him since he's basically saying the MVP trophy's mine ever since that that that moment in time yeah so with me this is where I struggle because I believe some people's style of play lends itself to better stats is just what it is so whenever you look at if you look at the MVP award from a statistical standpoint lebron is

supposed to have more you know you could say russ was supposed to have more kobe you see what i'm saying so i try not to lean in the in the statistics you know it's not that jokic doesn't have bad it doesn't have great optics it's great when you watch him play. But when I watch OKC play, in every game that matters when they play a team that's tough, another good team, when that game is close down the stretch, they go, get us home, SGA. And I think that matters whenever you're talking about MVP. He'll never have the numbers Jokic have. His game doesn't lend itself to that. But when it comes to, I think he is the reason why that team is so good if you watch how they play. You know, so I think you can't, when we started talking just numbers,

I think you're being unfair to him because when you watch it, he is getting his team to the finish line in a lot of these games. And we talk about Jokic generational numbers, right? Yeah. We've had this discussion pretty much all season. And I've been on the Jokic train. Like, you can't deny what this man is doing. First big man to be able to average a triple-double. But then you talk about the West and how tough the West is.

The West is the varsity and the East is the JV. OKC's got a 15-game lead in the Western Conference. That's absurd, right? For sure. And winning necessarily shouldn't factor that much into the MVP race conversation. But goddamn, they got a 15-game lead in the West. They win so much, you don't even put them in the category. You just talk about the Lakers.

They got a 15. The Warriors. We don't even talk about it. It's like, all right, we know they're going to win. But I'm just saying, what that squad is, right? You look at that squad on paper, that's not a squad you're going to say, all right, they're going to have a, they can win the West. We said at the beginning of the year,

we're not, 15 games? Like, come on, man. That's crazy. But that lets you know, when I say if they play the Lakers, we whooping them, that lets you know how good he is versus how bad the rest of the team is.

Yeah. Right? I mean, he should have won it last year, right? I mean, it's the same thing, right? Where you have a team that is considered college-level age. They're so young. They're so young.

A lot of those guys could still be playing in college right now. They're the second youngest team right now behind Blazers? Yeah. That's where they should be. Yeah. Right? They should be exactly where the Blazers? That's what it should be. Yeah. Right? They should be exactly where the Blazers is. This young team, and they're right in front of them.

That's how great the— So they entered the season as the youngest team in the league. I think that may have shifted, but average age is like 24.1 years old. The youngest team by average age is 24. The average. It's dudes in the tournament right now. 24, yeah, because of the COVID season.

But that's it. You have to be able to factor that in to the fact that if you compare them to their age, the rest of that group is at the bottom.

Bottom feeding, trying to learn how to play basketball. And there's one guy, because if you take him off the team, that's where they will be. They will be at the bottom.

But by the same token, where would the Nuggets be without Jokic on that team? They'd be better. They'd be better. A lot better. You have veterans. That's still a veteran team. Russ had 30 last night. And he didn't boo at 30, 10, and 6.

Nah, look at what happened when he wasn't playing. They were still winning. Yes. Russ was going crazy. I mean, that's what I'm saying. You got people that were playing. 30, 10, and 60 getting booed. That's what they got on the bench.

Like, we can pretend that they're not good. They're still in their feelings about the Wolves. We know when he's not playing, we know what Murray's going to do. Yeah. Right? You take SBA. Actually, Gordon is still very good. Wasn't my man who shoot too many threes tall do

MP3 Yeah, he shoot he Don't care but nice good though. They have a good roster. All right, it's gonna go down to the end man. I think whoever It's gonna go down to it. It has to you can whoever... It shouldn't go down to the end. It has to. You can't take away somebody who's really doing that, too. Because last year, you gave it to Joker off the name. You can't keep putting that name over... Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

It's not a name. It is. Bitch, I'm averaging 30, 10, and 12. That's still a number. It don't matter. I don't give a fuck what we talking about. It still sounds crazy, whatever you're saying. I'm still averaging 30. It don't matter. I don't give a fuck what we talking about. It still sounds crazy, whatever you're saying. I'm still averaging first.

You've seen that. I've seen it. I've seen it for four years. And I've seen you do it. And the motherfucker just called it stat patent. And y'all refuse to say, oh, he's trying to win. What that mean? He's stat patent.

Nobody want to use De Niro. He act like he don't care about basketball. He don't give a fuck. He just out there playing with nobody. They try to, yeah. Stop this shit. He care. He care. He care. He don't give a fuck. He just out there playing with nobody. They try to, yeah. Stop this shit. He care. He cares. He cares.

He cares. He cares. I don't care about what you can't use. Once he clocked out, I'm not worried about y'all. You can't not use what you've been using towards everybody else and just say, oh, because it's Joker, I'm not going to use LeBron's. Oh, he's too good. Jordan's shit, we can't give it, keep giving it to Jordan. You can't do that. I don't give a fuck about what you can call it.

You got to get somebody who's fucking 15 games in front of him, averaging 30, and you don't want to give it to him last year. You can't call, but what's his answer? First place last year, you don't want to give it to him because he's too young to get it. I don't know what they give it. That's not my read. I don't give a fuck who. That's them voters. You can't tell me I'm not in there. But that's what they said last year.

I'm averaging 30, 12, and 10 this year. They just gave it to Joker. Can I ask y'all a question? Do you think Joker is benefiting from the lack of people in his position? Because SGA, there's a ton of people. Some of the best defenders in the league are all his size. You know what I mean? And he's doing what he's doing.

Joker plays four centers a season. And one don't show up. Yeah, and one of them don't even play. You know what I mean? I ain't playing you in your hometown. Yeah. No, but that's what I'm saying. It's still...

Do you take that into consideration as a voter? I do. Okay. But they don't have players voting. Yeah. Right? It's not a player vote because we're going to vote all of the metrics. We're going to vote age, where they're supposed to have been.

We're going to take in all that consideration. We're going to take you off your team, see how this team works, to see who is actually better. Yes, their record is better, but on paper, your team is supposed to be better. So that means this man is moving at a different frequency than your team. So yes, he's the most valuable in the league and the most valuable to this team.

But I just can't say, damn, you're still averaging 30, 12, and 10. I can't just push out of the way. But they ignored it for Russ. That's the problem. It was like, why won't you ignore it for Joker? You ignored it for Russ over three years. Joker, a much more efficient Russ over and over. Let's keep it real.

Three years. Joker, a much more efficient triple-double. Also in the top three and still. Position makes you more efficient, too. No, it's not even position. But three field goal percentage. Yeah, because you're playing down low, you're going to have better. But it's still something where I can't just say,

all right, this is yours. Fuck anything he does. Because if he fucks around half-seventy... Nah, he have another game. That's what I'm saying. You still gotta keep the door open. It's like the Terminator. Like, the nigga's still chasing you, dog.

Like, I don't give a fuck what's going on. That man that you're trying to run from is still coming. Like, you gotta put him in hot lava or whatever. He's still chasing through the shotgun shell to the face. Them shits is closing back up. That is Jokic right now. Yeah, 60 point triple

double. He's skying it. You can't ignore that. They lost, though. We're talking about Dave the Nuggets lost. Joker won. But this is the thing. But this is the thing.

When that game is on the line, they get a ball to Joker and say, get us home. He didn't get us home. But you do the same thing with SGA, and he gets you home. Listen, he in front. All right? It's Shays to fuck off. Let's just say it like that. All right.

Right now, it's Shays to fuck off. How can he fuck off? But, huh? They can stop playing right now. That was the point I'm on. He played 70-something games. I can tell you this. He's better off.

He got to play. He got to play. I don't know. All they're going to do is just average 30s, 90s, 90s, 90s. Man, what happens is this. These next five games, he averages about 15. They start doubling, tripping. And his stats go down, and this motherfucker starts averaging 40.

It's a different conversation. He is better off not playing no more. You can't rate him. And no one can catch them in the West. The 15 game lead right now. That's what I'm saying. It's better that he don't play because they can't push nothing against him.

Right now, it's just him. He started having these shut down games. They shutting him down. He started having these, you know, shutdown games. They shutting him down. He get fuck around, have a five, two, and one. Like those kids fucking... Because they're going to just remember the last couple games. Yeah. They're going to forget the whole beginning of the season.

You can't trust a voter right now. 73 games. You can't trust a voter right now, dog. They go off on the last thing they seen. Yeah. And the motherfucker, the motherfucker Jokic started averaging 40, 10, and 12. Like, at the end, like, he's arguing. He's going to do it.

I think you got to give it to SGA because you gave two to Nash. You got to do it. Both Canadian. Yeah. Both Canadian. Yeah. If it's about elevating your team to that position, you know what I mean, and it ain't about because it wasn't about the stats then.

Yeah, so what are we telling the kids then? That's what I'm saying, man. I don't know, man. What you mean? It was about his stats. Who? It was still Nash's stats. Nash had good stats.

His stats and his play. It wasn't LeBron, Kobe, or Shaq. You know what the narrative was, though? When? And this is the bad part. And he didn't play defense. I hate the narrative was, though? When? And this is the bad part. And I hate... And he didn't play defense. I hate the narrative of this. So when Amari was gone, they expected them to drop and not be a playoff team.

So the fact that Nash held them up, he got credit for it. And I'm like, okay, that's cool. But you said Kobe's team was damn near going to finish last in the West, and they made it to the playoffs. But you're not giving them no credit for that. And giving everybody 50 and 60 on the way to doing it. He was carrying that team. So much, in fact, he wasn't passing the open niggas.

He was carrying... They wasn't open. He was carrying. They wasn't open. If you look at the names, they wasn't open. That's how he felt. That's how he felt. That's how we all felt.

Motherfucker standing running under the basket. This is a better shot with me shooting over three than it is you open in the corner. No disrespect. I can tell you that. He didn't do that shit to Paul Gasol. Look at that. No. We're on our test.

That's true. Bam. Oh, my goodness. That's all I'm saying. That was a Herculean effort, man, what he did, man. That was crazy. I'm not a Kobe fan by any means, but to ignore what he did that year, you know, I still think that was a crime, man.

That was a crime not giving that man MVP because they're nothing without that dude. That's a six-win team without that dude. There was nothing with them. Yeah, yeah. It's the ideal team you want to score a lot. Just a whole bunch of nothing. Yeah.

Well, let's keep this thing moving. They almost had him in the first round. Yeah. Yeah, up. They were up. Up. Up, 3-1. Tip, they got it.

Yeah, 3-1 right. And that's when the media started pretending that that was the actual team. You need to pass the ball a lot. Yeah, up. They were up. Up. Up, 3-1. Tip, they got it. Yeah, 3-1 right there. And that's when the media started pretending that that was the actual team. You need to pass the ball a lot. Started trying to facilitate. To who? To who? Oh, you want them to... I ain't going to say no names.

They've been beat up for years, but, you know. Nah, they wasn't beat up for years. No, I'm talking about these guys for years have had their names tied to being nobodies on that Laker team. And I just don't want to do it. Y'all know that. We're trying to be better people in 2020. Yeah. That's the raw vegetables.

We talked about that. Yeah. You need to try that shit because when you break me down and you don't see the emotions in my eyes, you don't feel sympathy for me and my son, you need to start trying this shit. You see a good man, that's a good man. Since I've been on this diet, it's harder for me to be as mean as I once was. He wants you to start eating raw vegetables

so you'll stop talking about him and his son. Wait, so you're eating raw vegetables and that made you nice? Yeah, it did. It made me nicer. It was crazy. I can see, I can see, I'm more empathetic. I can see when I'm hurting somebody's feelings.

I can tell you can't see it. Yeah. Like my soul right there. If you check Gil's fridge, no raw vegetables. Yeah. No raw vegetables. Gil will say something terrible about you. You make a face.

He'll be like, why are you looking like that? I said. What? I said. You hear me? I said, and you stopped. Yeah. You get on a little vegan diet.

You get on a little all fruit and vegetables, boy. You start kubayahing around, huh? A little bit. Turn you into a hippie a little bit, man. Damn. Star-star. You need to try that shit. Well, let's talk about something positive to unite the couch.

It was reported yesterday that Carmelo Anthony has been selected to the Hall of Fame on the first ballot. Let's give it up for Melo. Shout out for Melo. Melo won a national championship at Syracuse in 2003, was named the NCAA Tournament's Most Outstanding Player before leaving for the NBA in the league. Ten All-Star games, six All-NBA teams,

won a scoring title in 2013, and retired in the top ten in scoring all-time, which he remains currently. He's also a member of the NBA's 75th anniversary team. Melo also made some noise in the world of international basketball, winning three gold medals with Team USA, retiring as Team USA's all-time leading scorer before being passed by KD and LeBron,

who did so after his finals appearance in 2016. Obviously, we love Melo on this couch, one of the greatest hoopers of all time in terms of just scoring and pure just willingness to go get buckets, think about him in the Syracuse days. Freshman winning that national championship with the baggy uniform, the braids, headband, everything he had going on.

So Gil, what's your reaction to Carmelo Anthony's first ballot Hall of Fame selection? As I say, congratulations, because it is Carmelo. Then I thought about, like, wait, it's been four years because you know the criteria is four years full four years and it ain't been four years for him that's how good he's been where they just say you know what it's close now cuz it's only been three years he played in he's basically said fuck fuck, they said, fuck the other people.

We don't need they days. We need the mellow. They're like, he played in 2022, but did he? But really, man? Did he? I know it says four years,

but we need the mellow vibe right now. We got to sell some tickets. We need some viewership. We need some mellow. So they done scratched the criteria for mellow. That's how great that motherfucker was when he played. Yeah.

Like, he's in my list. I got him third in my all-time bucket getters. You know what I mean? I got Jordan first, then I got KD, then I got Mello. That's a good answer. Kobe fans get mad at that. Who you got? Huh?

You said KD Katie Mello? I got Jordan, Katie, Mello. Guys who can just get a bucket. You just believe it. When they got the ball in their hands going iso, game on the line even, I just believe that is one of the best shots you can get. If you got Mello in the iso, you down one, and the help ain't coming,

I'm taking that shot over a layup from somebody else. It's just, whether it's a corner three, top three, whether he in the post, whether he driving to the basket, whether it's a mid-range, Melo can score from everywhere, and there wasn't nothing you can do about it.

He was quick enough to get by you, and he was strong enough to move you out the way. He was just, however you wanted to get it, he was gonna give it to you. He was one of the best bucket getters I've ever seen in my life. Swaggy, what you think about Melo? First ballot, Hall of Fame. Oh, this is well deserving. For sure, as just a pure bucket. There's no arguing. He's one of the best. I just didn't see it.

For his, I was like, I'll keep Melo in there. I'll keep probably KD in there because I witnessed. But I would throw Kobe in there before I throw MJ. Just because there's too many 64 points. But this is not about Kobe, so I'm talking about Melo. Kobe fans hate it. I get it. Melo, it's just sad for me to see guys

like Melo or the AIs don't get that chance to hold a trophy. Because some people I feel deserve that opportunity. But what he did for the game, you know, he's pretty much like the joker of that third 3-4 position without the passing and stuff. Did you ever have to guard Melo when you were in the league?

A little bit. I came on to help. I didn't have to guard him head up. Sometimes I got hit on the switch in the post, and that's when he, here, here, I got one type shit. Mouse in the house. I got one. Which is crazy.

Y'all ain't even that much difference in height, but this dude is strong like that. That's why I'm talking about it. No, they're different in height. They're different in height. How different? A lot. That motherfucker's, they ain't nothing.

Oh, he bigger than I think he is? Yeah. OK. That shit they got on fucking player reference? Nah, that shit is tricky. I'm looking at it right now. 6'7", 240. No way.

Hell nah, that motherfucker. He didn't even come to the NBA at 6'7". Yeah. See? I thought, that's what I'm saying. 6'9", 6'9". Yeah. Like, some of them, like, especially, like, let's say you're three fours, if they got shoe deals, just Nike themselves realize

that anybody over 6'9", they don't sell very well. Okay. So most of those guys is 6'9 or below. When they're motherfucking giants. Yeah. You know what I mean? Just if you look at Kevin Durant, there's no six-line around him. So I had a question.

Since this man is going first ballot Hall of Fame, we know who he is, what he's done. Jokic is wearing 15 in Denver. Uh-oh. Do you retire both numbers, or is just he done because Joker's done what he's done? Yeah. Or do you give him the respect that he earned

to have that jersey number retired? Or just his name in the rafters in some way? I don't know. Joker won championship. And MVP. Yeah. Probably give him a C. Do you put a blank?

Do you put the Mellow just name on a jersey in the rafters? Like, how do you handle that? I think this is when you call Ja Morant. And then, you take that Ja Morant in the strip club, man, where that going at?

Where that going at? Because that happened in Denver, right? Yeah. Happened in Denver. What's that? I think Mello would get it in New York.

I think that's where, if you ask him where, if he had to pick it, it'd be his hometown, where he resides. Like, that's where his legacy should be remembered. But Denver Mello, it's like, god damn. That is Mello. Like, the New York Mello, that's another Mello. But this Mellos like goddamn. Yeah, that is mellow The New York mellow that's that's another mellow. This mellow was good. Yeah This is this is three three three all-stars. Also this yeah, Western Conference Finals. Yeah, that's right Yeah, like that that mellow like better than mellow Yeah, I thought that mellow was better than New York mellow

The scoring title was New York mellow. Yeah, but that's cuz of the team That was a kid, that's what I'm saying. You got more shots up over there in New York. This is King of New York mellow right here. That Denver mellow was insane. That Denver mellow was something crazy. I know, boy. But I think if it is true that that heat situation

actually could have been a with Melo situation, and he chose not to do it. I don't feel as bad for him not getting a ring, because the opportunity was there, and you wanted to be the king of New York. I can't believe that. Yeah, that's crazy. They win four or five. They don't lose to Dallas if Melo hits.

Oh, hell no. Hell no. You talk about the Nugget situation. Obviously, Jokic wearing the same numbers. Mel, I can see a world where Jokic showing love,

saying, look, put us both up in there. I think that's how it's gotta go. It's gotta go, yeah. That'd be a great look for him on his part. Like, yo, man.

At least with the name on a jersey. Have you been seeing what he's been doing to these people out here? Man, that motherfucker don't give a fuck about y'all. Maybe the argument should, Jokic shouldn't have got a chance to wear that jersey.

That's the argument. That's the real conversation. That is the real one where, like, that number shouldn't have been available if you thought. But I don't think they thought Jokic was going to be this. No. Well, they did because they got rid of Nurkic. But he was a 46 pick. Yeah, but once they saw it, they were like,

we're willing to give up the center that we picked way ahead of you to start you because they saw it fairly quickly. They saw it, but they didn't see this. No, no. Because even 2020, he was still like, because the assist wasn't coming to the assistant kick in you Yeah, and then once he started just opening up his full game. He was like, oh Yeah, I said if you go back and look at that bubble that bubble is what ever since that bubble came out

I don't know if he missed the covert or whatever, but whatever happened There's really good defenders on him, too. Having him rotate and, you know, Dwight Howard and JaVale McGee on you. And Anthony Davis. Yeah, and Anthony Davis. You know what I mean? But that's another reason why I think that Dallas situation

is going to work out. Not a lot of teams can rotate that many defensive bigs. Let's say there's like 15 legitimate bigs in the league, 15, 20. They got three of them. They're going to be decent. Steve, our resident Knicks fan, all things New York. Just talking about the game, Mellow had 50 against the Heat. Zero points in the paint.

All jumpers. That's a bucket getter. I mean, didn't he have a 60-0-0 stat line? Yo. Bucket. I know that's your probably favorite stat line in the history of the team. Yeah, like I ain't rebounding, I ain't doing shit. I'm not doing shit, I'm getting buckets.

That's weird because he's an offensive juggernaut, like an offensive rebounding juggernaut like an offensive rebounding juggernaut yeah like he was known for just get his so he get like is that a real stat I never looked it up to see if that

was actually a real thing where he had zero assists nah I get that part but zero rebounds he didn't get no man well you didn't have to say I get

that part I'm on fire I'm not passing you the fucking ball watch out so he had a game 62 13 rebounds zero assists against the Bobcats. Okay.

Against the Bobcats. Shout out to Charlotte. Y'all always find a way. Always find a way. Y'all always find a way to embarrass me in public. Bobcats is probably the worst team, worst name. Color scheme, everything. We would.

Shout out Bob Johnson. He said, hey, the Bobcats. We going to do the ugliest orange you've ever seen and put it beside the ugliest blue you've ever seen and break it up with a little bit of gray. You know what I mean? We ain't even going to finish the logo. You know, the Bobcat looked like something out of high school

or middle school. I couldn't believe it. Yeah, that's some Disney. I'm just here to save money. That's a Disney basketball show movie. Yo, Nick, I couldn't believe it. A Disney movie? What is it called?

Bud Dog or some shit? Air Bud? Air Bud, yeah. Bud Dog. Bud Dog. No, no, no. Listen. It's not like a Budweiser commercial.

When they do colors and they do names, they do it to, like, out. They do it publicly, right? Where people, the fans vote on it. Or the fans just have to deal with it. We just had to deal with it. Trust me, we did not vote on that. We wanted the Hornets the whole time, but the Hornets had moved to New Orleans. Yeah.

So, and then when he was like the Bobcats, I was like, don't nobody even want to say that. Yeah. Like, they didn't have no extra names that, like, what was the... Think about that. Yo, I would have taken the Charlotte basketball team. Yeah. Over the Bobcats, bro.

Yo, I would have... I would have taken that over... Man, I couldn't believe it. The jerseys are so ugly. Didn't want to own one ever. Man, I'm not getting the Sean May jersey, bro. Like, what are we doing? Sean May.

Oh, people forget who our team was, dog. Like, no, I'm not doing it. Wallace. Gerald Henderson. Yeah, the Gerald Henderson. Bro, like, well, I'm not doing it. What are we doing? Yeah.

The Adam Morrison. The Adam Morrison. Over Rudy Gay. Oh, you don't want to. Yo, when we were drafted. No, no, no. You don't even want to talk about that part of the history of. Yeah, our drafting.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. He had to be drunk. I'm just going? Oh, my God. Oh, my God. He had to be drunk. I'm just gonna just put it out there. Or he must have been on a golf course and somebody had it here. Like, who's up next? Adam Morrison. No, it was cold, yo. Adam Morrison? It's Jordan's fault

with everything. Adam Morrison? You watched those games. In what world did you think he was gonna come to the league and take it by storm? The man list. Oh, boy. Adam Morrison. He was Jimmer for that goal.

Slow, though. Slow. 6'9". Come on, man. Stop. Adam Morrison was cold. Okay. I believe there were some Larry Bird comps back in those days when he was coming out.

Anybody that went to Charlotte, he wasn't you? He wasn't supposed to guard me. Could he guard you? Who could guard him at 6'9"? Everybody. Everybody. You know what you see when he went to the league? Everybody could guard him. It was Porzingis.

He wasn't supposed to be like that. No, Porzingis is 7'3". He wasn't about to be no two. He wasn't a two man. He was a three, four. Who in the league at that time that could move like that at the four position? He could move? What game were you watching?

Anybody that Jordan drafted. Oh, the college with him. Oh, Nick, you probably younger than me. You played against him. You can say, yeah. I practiced. I worked out with him for draft work. And what happened?

He was winning. Even before my year. Oh, OK. Yeah. God. I'm not saying he couldn't. Who? Average. How much he average? I think he led the nation to scoring right when he was there. Yeah. There's a lot of them. Yeah. All right. I'm not saying he couldn't. Who?

How much he averaged? I think he led the nation to scoring right when he was at college. There's a lot of them. Yeah. JJ Redick was right behind him. Yeah. Yeah. And look, I'm a Duke guy. I ain't like JJ Redick like that.

Listen. JJ Redick couldn't put the ball on the floor, and Tyrus Thomas proved it. That's why we lost. It was bad development over there. It was bad draft. Like, if you look at the people that they could have drafted, you're talking about, they could have had Devin Booker, they could have had the Rosen.

They had Shea. Listen, they had Shea and traded him. Hey, this ain't even no knock to the man. It's bad development. But at one point, Ramone Sessions was by far the best player on our team. It was cold. By far.

And this ain't a knock to him, but by far the best player. Like, we didn't have a guy who was second best. Ramone Sessions was by far the best player on our team. But once again, it was Jordan. How you going to talk about the person you draft? Like, soon when you get him, like, you don't show up. I'm not agreeing with Jordan. I hated it.

That was another thing. Yeah. To sit there and watch the game and watch him in these poorly made suits and bad jeans seeing what he doing to my team. I ain't like it. Talking shit about him. Like, that's not good. I ain't like it.

What? You can't do that, though. Gil Chris, Michael Kidd, Gil Chris picked him over everybody. He shot like this. Yo, over everybody. Oh, my goodness. There was so many. There was so many picks.

No, LaMelo was their best pick. Ever. In the history. Jordan was. Him and Kimba Walker. No, no, that's the funny part. No, Shea is their best pick. Yeah, we traded Shea.

And they traded Shea. We drafted Shea. Well, you can say. We drafted Shea. I'm so good at Shea. If you want to play that game. AndJ. If you want to play that game. And Kobe. If you want to play that game.

Gave away Kobe for Vladi Divac. But in our defense, It was a different time. It was a different time. We actually was competing back then. Yeah. Without the Baron Davis. We were competing back then.

That team, the Stack 5 team, that was... Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was the Bobcats. We had Stack 5, and we had Gerald Wallace. And that team competed. And then the Al Jefferson team was about to compete. Al went down.

You know what I mean? And when we say compete, I mean get swept by Cleveland. But we were... That's competing. Yeah, but we were competing. Yeah, that was competing. I didn't know that. So back to Melo real quick.

We asked the chat if the Nug, back to Melo real quick. We asked the chat if the Nuggets should retire Melo's number 15. 73% of the chat says the Nuggets should retire, but there's also a number 15. We know the other number 15. You can't take it off of him. You gotta wait till he finishes his career. So do it at least now while he's still playing. Do it together.

I'm gonna do exactly what I was gonna do when Russ went to Wizards and he's still playing. Do it together. I'm going to do exactly what I was going to do when Russ went to Wizards and he won a zero. What? Joker said, uh... Publicly be like, yeah, yeah, of course he can have that jersey. Yeah, it is. Behind the scenes, don't you let that motherfucker go and score a triple-double in my goddamn jersey. You got to retire that shit.

Is you crazy? Who the fuck you think I am? Click, click. That's what... Oh, yeah, you know, Russ, you know, Mello, Mello, good player I am? Click, click. That's what Jokic blow. Oh yeah, you know, Melo, good player. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Behind the scenes, if you ever put me on the spotlight this again, huh? Don't you ever call me and got no goddamn Carmelo Anthony when I done won three MVPs and a championship. Click, click. But you're the Kobe. You have two jerseys. Change're the Kobe. Huh? Had two jerseys.

Like, change his number now. But you had two jerseys compared to Melo one. Didn't you? Man, but he won three MVPs. He should change it to 51. Bring pride to that number. They just going to give him more MVP. He's going to average a triple-double next year.

Get another MVP. Because when I seen Russ going there, all I thought about is, all I thought about was my number. Like, oh, he about to average a triple, double in my number. Oh, they're going to forget about me. How much would it have hurt you? I wrote, yeah, you know, that would be a great thing. Sasha, you better not ever let this happen.

Yeah. What number did he want, two? He want four. He want four, yeah. I didn't even think about why he didn't wear a Z-Row until you just said that. No, no, no, but he was like, yeah, I'm guilty. think about why he didn't wear Z-Grow until you just said that. No, no, no, but he was like, yeah, I'm guilty.

How much would it have hurt you to see Wizards jerseys with the zero on it and Westbrook in the back? I think it's your jersey. Because he averaged a triple dunk. I understand. It would have hurt my feelings. It would have hurt your feelings. So the guy who got it now, have fun, baby.

Yeah. Bali. They told me this. Bali wants to wear your number. They haven't retired yet? No, no, no. So you got the French kid here. I had to look up his stats.

Bilal Koulibaly. Oh, yeah, we good. But Agent Zero, man, he's got to retire. He can wear that. They only got one jersey retired up there, so it'd be... Was it West? No, that Phil Chenier, they got three, though. Yeah.

They got three. Unseld's got to be up there. West Unseld. Yeah. Phil Chenier. That's it. And Black Jesus, I think, be up there. Wes Unseld. Yeah. Fusionaire. That's it. And Black Jesus, I think, is up there. Who?

See what I mean? They got to put you up there, Gil. It was the Harlem Voters. In the legacy of that franchise, how many people have done what you've done in that jersey? That's what I say. They got to put you up there. They got to put them up there. And it's injury. It's not like a fall off. It's injury. I. They got to put you up there. They got to put him up there. And it's injury.

It's not like a fall off. It's injury. I mean, but I'll do this thing. I wouldn't be, I would be surprised, but I wouldn't at the same time. That's crazy. So it's one of those things

that's like, you know. How many all-stars you make in that jersey? Three. Three all-stars, right? And we talking about Mello going, getting his in the rafters in Denver. And what was that? Three all-stars? Three all-stars. So what are we talking about Melo going getting his in the rafters

in Denver and what was that three all-stars? Three all-stars. So what are we talking about? It's like we're changing the conversation. But it's the Wizards man

so he should have made it right after the they should have retired after the first all-star. Who gets retired the Wizard? That's what I'm saying. Yeah.

Fuck. Why you really don't like them niggas, bro. Why would you want your jersey in there? You can just keep it in the road test. How many people have a nickname attached to the number?

You know what I mean? There's a lot of shit attached to that. There's history with that number in that arena. Stop playing, bro, stop playing. Stop playing. They didn't pull it out on the gym. They would have it up there, but the dumb motherfucker wanted to be done. Yeah.

I'm sorry. I heard you. Good to hear. That's new and improved for you. I see it because I've been eating raw food. Eating that raw vegan. Hey, man, it's good to see that apology. It was me that did that. The growth. I see it because I've been eating raw food. Eating that raw vegan. Hey, man, it's good to see that apology. It was gross, man.

The gross. I see it, Nick. So one more thing to talk about before we get to mostly fans. Rockets blew out the Jazz by 38 points at home last night, but one of their key pieces might be facing some discipline from the league pretty soon. Let's take a look at the video. So in the first quarter, Dylan Brooks was posting up Colin Sexton

when he extended his leg and appeared to kick Sexton in the groin. Sexton fell to the ground in pain. I'm trying to fuck him up. Let's take a look. Boom. Oh, yeah, definitely. He keyed in on it. He keyed in on it. Oh, no. No, I don't think he aimed at the nuts, but he aimed the kick. He kicked it. He definitely kicked it. Yeah. Okay. Where'd he kick the ball at?

He tried to kick the ball in wrong one. That's all. Oh, he got it. He kicked the ball. He didn't kick him in the nuts. He kicked two. Oh, now I'm mad as Sexton. Yeah.

Yeah. He sold it. He sold it. I'm not a fan. So it's the 16th technical of the season for Brooks, who triggered an automatic one-game suspension that the league officially announced today. On Sunday, Brooks picked up his 14th and 15th text

after getting ejected in a game against the Suns for some shenanigans after fouling KD and then getting into it with the ref. We know Dylan Brooks' history. We know his history of trying to poke bears. What's ended up happening in the aftermath of doing so how worried should Rockets fans be about the antics of Dylan Brooks? Especially this team two in the West right now getting ready to make the playoffs for the first time in a few years people

Like I want to be like Shit I It was like, I want to be like mine. Kicking niggas. We just out there kicking niggas, man. Shit. I think, seriously, if you're a Rockets fan, this shouldn't bother you at all. You knew this is what he was bringing to your team, and now y'all second in the West. You think you second in the West without Dylan Brooks?

You think you second in the West without this guy bringing that kind of grit to this team? It was a bunch of young guys. It was a bunch of young guys. It was a bunch of young guys who ain't really accomplished nothing, ain't did nothing, and he's going to pick up the hardest defensive assignment every single night. So, if that comes with kicking niggas in the

stomach, sometimes you got to kick niggas in the stomach. That's just what it is. What are you talking about? This is what y'all signed up for. This is what you signed up for. You gave, and then they give him like, When he was grinding,

he was giving him, he was giving him the grind on the ground. Yeah. Is it, like I said, he wasn't this guy in Memphis? What are you talking about? Like,

I don't consider him, like, when you think of him, you think of the answers, but he's not dirty. No. Like, you know,

these are like one-offs. Yeah. Like, they're not, this is not, answers, but it's not dirty. No. These are like one-offs. This is not... Bruce Bourne was way dirtier than him. Right. And from a fan perspective, that shit is enjoyable to watch. If Dylan Brooks is playing, that game is going to be entertaining. Even somebody like Isaiah Stewart,

he's not a dirty player. It's just once he gets mad, then you got to watch out. But for the most part, those type of players, they just play basketball and try to do the best of their ability. Aggressive is probably the best way to describe it. No, no, that's not aggressive. You see him doing this? Dennis Rodman.

When he was Garmin Braun? Yeah. This week, yo. Yo, I'm going to tell you, Dylan Brooks. Dylan Brooks is a guy I would always want on my team. So maybe that's why I give him the pass. And I don't feel like he's dirty. That's all I'm saying.

He don't hit play. You don't know him, the flagrant foul and stuff. He's just funny. If you're tangled up with him, he's going to hold his ground and do all that stuff. But he's not going to clip you. He ain't going to do all that. I'm a huge. Like the KD thing on Sunday.

I'm a huge Chris Paul guy. Way dirtier than Dylan Brooks. Give him facts. Way dirtier. And he don't have the reputation that Dylan Brooks has. True. And there's a lot of niggas who will tell you he purposely hit me in the nuts. Over the years.

And even then, it doesn't change my opinion of Chris Paul. So this doesn't change my opinion of Dylan Brooks. Everybody needs one of those guys. You know? You can't put them two in the same category. No, no, no. Out loud with it. I know, but that's what I'm saying.

But Dylan Brooks says he's out loud, but don't do the things that Paul's doing. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But Dylan Brooks says he's out loud, but don't do the thing that he calls it. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Because Paul is more respected. Yeah. And he is just outright dropping people.

He's just out loud with the world. No, no, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, you weren't here yet. Like even like Isaiah, he got the two games, he didn't even start the fight. Yeah. Because of the name. The name and the aggression. So when people hear your name, they think oh shit

He didn't even start the fight is like these three people started this fight and I get the most games. That's some bullshit I'm gonna tell you the crazy part if you say that there was a fight that happened He was like this person was in it. This person was in it Isaiah Stewart was in you like all he started Yeah, that's your that's where your brain oh, he started it. Yeah. That's where your brain goes. Or he ended it. Or he ended it. Yeah, so that's... It definitely don't surprise you he was involved. Yeah. Pistons got into a fight. All right, let me guess.

Yeah. Like when people fight, you start looking for him like, oh, shit, what happened? That is messed up. You just say the franchise name, you do go, it was probably Isaiah. But you go Brooks too, though. Yeah. That's what we're saying. These reputations precede them. A great instigator

though, obviously. He's an instigator. But he had a situation with LeBron, I think caught a lot of heat for that. A lot of Grizzlies fans probably blamed him for the Lakers winning that series, but that shit was comical. It's consistent. And we can see, I think your point was, he kind of toned it down a little bit there, where just keep it going.

If that's who you are, then be who you are. Don't switch up. I mean, to be honest, nobody knew who he was before, like just worldwide, before he started poking LeBron. Then you start looking at him, and be like, oh, he's functional.

Like he's a functional basketball player. He's actually an attribute to a team. Yeah. He just is not out there just being dumb. Like, you know, like, I think he's averaging the most points this year. Like, he's really actually balling. Yeah, he's doing very well. Yeah.

No, he, man, that man can shoot. He's worth his money. That man can shoot. And he plays. Whoa, come on, man. No, no, no. Damn, man. See, this is the problem.

This is the problem. You two niggas can really shoot. So that's where y'all go with that. But Dylan Brooks is a feasible three-point option. You can't just leave him. Doing 39% from the field this season. No, I mean, but what is he shooting from three? 39% is what I'm saying.

Yeah, 39. 43% from the field. Thank you. See that? No, no, but I watched him in warm-ups. He had on boots, booty shorts, and he was out there shooting threes, and he went like 0 for 17. I'm like, how do you do that in warm-ups?

Yeah. Like, I'm just kidding. But he's almost 40% in the game. But I was just looking at him just like, this is crazy. I was more concerned about, like, you know, you got booty shorts and boots on, you know, in public. Yeah, career high 39% this year. Why are you looking at his booty? I wasn't looking at the booty.

I thought it was the Sparks. I thought it was the Sparks. Man, this is crazy. This is the outfit you're coming out with, man. Dylan Brooks brought a level of toughness to those Grizzlies squads. Also, I think, what, how I see he averaged like 18 points per game when he was in Memphis, averaging 14 points this season. But let's just talk about the identity and culture shift going on in Houston right now.

So Rockets changed their identity since Eme Adelka became head coach, 2023, along with Dylan Brooks joining the squad that same season. So they ran a graphic during the Suns game with what the Rockets are doing since the 23-24 season. Lead the league in disqualifications, ejections, player techs, and head coaching techs since 2023. Now show what their overall record was before 2023. But that's... No, no, no, no.

When did... Okay, this is last year. So since last season when Ime Adoka coming over, Dylan Brooks coming over. So Rockets have won 13 of their last 15 games,

50 and 27 this season, second in the West, three-game lead over the Lakers and Nuggets. Going to make their first playoff appearance since 2020. Have a solid young core,

Jalen Green and Shang-Goon, 11th rated offense in the league. 4th rated defense. So we talk all the time about if they're for real or for gays being in this two spot. Man, this is crazy. Because if you would have just said, you would have put this all on Detroit.

If you wouldn't have put a team to it. If you wouldn't have put a team, you would have thought disqualification, like that would been, you would think Detroit. Like, this team, like. Most coach techs, most player techs. Like, who the fuck is getting, like, think about who the fuck is getting techs over there? Everybody seems quiet. Nah, we've seen E-May get into it.

I'm just saying. Nah, but when I'm talking about players, for the most part, besides Brooks, who the fuck else is getting. But think about it. Who gets techs nowadays like that? We don't see a lot of that type of stuff in this era of basketball. Besides, you know, Brooks and...

They got 99 in two seasons. I know, 99. Dylan Brooks got 16 this year. This year alone? This year alone. They need that, though. They do. Need that, man.

How many the coach got? I know the coach got 23 in the last year. 23, maybe more. Fuck. Yeah. Yeah, nah, man. At the end of the day, I'm going to be honest with you, man. Like, that team isn't there without a Dylan Brooks.

Because they don't have another guy. They're not gritty enough without him. I think Dylan Brooks, 32 of those texts, which are now, I believe, at 100, maybe a little bit more. That graphic was ran Sunday. He got another text picked up at 16th one. I'm going to say he's nearly a third of the texts they've gotten the last two years.

That's so... I'm trying to... What is this text for? It is like... Him, he just talks. He got too fulfilled. He talks too much. He probably says something that he shouldn't,

that they feel like he shouldn't say, you know, but he's not, like, throwing flares to the floor. He's not, you know, kicking niggas all the time. Was he kicked out after that, or just... Not text. It was was game of tech. Because what's the name... He gets the one-game suspension trigger because I was at 16.

Like, uh, like Ron Artest, right? I asked the ref about Ron Artest, and it was like, I've never given Ron Artest a technical for saying anything. He doesn't talk. Yeah. He just fucks people up. Yeah. Right? He just... He just fucks people up. He don't say nothing, right? So, you know, he's gonna raise his hand, do all that,

so, you know, aggression comes in different ways, I guess. Yeah, like Sheed used to get them all the time. His were funny, though. Yeah. But it was a lot of talking that had to do with it, you know? Talking and looking. Just staring. Yeah.

So. Whop! One of my favorite texts in history, but... But in all sincerity, I think a lot of people don't respect this Rocket Squad going into the playoffs. I don't. I don't. I respect Sagun, and then they lose, and Amen, and then they lose me after that.

I don't trust nobody else. I trust Dylan Brooks, but I trust Dylan Brooks to be Dylan Brooks. You know, poke the bear and then give up the game-winning shot. Yeah. It's my guy, though. I just don't trust him. Just age right now.

I just don't trust him. So for this season. No, no, no. When you look at the future of this Rocket Squad, though. They're going to, like, before they make any changes, they need to really look at their roster and look at what pieces actually matter to the growth. Because you can change one piece that you do not think is important, and that fucks up everything. That one piece that holds the bridge together.

We don't need this screw. And that's the screw that you actually needed to make it all function. So, you know, there has to be, when they go into free agency or just the summer, they need to really look at their team because they have a whole bunch of good pieces. And you pull the wrong ones trying to get somebody else in, that shit's going to crumble. They have a lot of players, though. I know. They have like 11 guys. That's, yes.

That's a lot of guys. That's a lot of guys. That's a lot of guys. And you could use that, and they still got, you know, some draft pick value. I think they gotta figure out who's they person down the line, like that's gonna hit the game, who they gonna put the ball in their hand to make a game winning shot. I mean, you don't need... They don't... You need that, but...

You can't have somebody like, oh, he's hot tonight, give it to him. Yeah, that's what's up. I think they can do it by committee the way the Spurs did it sometimes in the past. You know what I mean? You have enough guys you trust, and you trust the system.

You trust these guys to... I see why you're making the face, Nick, because a lot of teams don't have that, but a lot of teams aren't 11 deep. That's what I'm saying. It's just like... I don't know them 11. Who they gonna give it to? No, it don't matter. It ain't about who's gonna give it to, because right now, you do have a bunch of pieces

that all do the same thing. Mm-hmm. Right? You know, Jalen Green is turning into, you know, one of those really good go-to guys, but he still need to clean up? You know, Jalen Green is turning into one of those really good go-to guys but he still needs to clean up some of his game. Sangoon is still trying to figure out how to be the Jokic type. Right? So just with them two alone, then you got A-Men. This man's feeling is crazy. You know, because him, Dylan Brooks, you're trying to figure out do I put A-Man at the point

and just say, fuck it? Come downhill, if not, be a smarter Westbrook. Because he's not going to be chucking a whole bunch of threes. He's going to play to his strength and that's at my point. Or do I put him in at the three? There's some real

Yeah value and trying to figure out what this lineup is, but but I do know But you gotta figure that a man Jalen green and green and sangoon are We gonna see you three motherfuckers just sit somewhere and then let me figure out who's gonna help you guys But that's what I'm saying when I said I trust Sangoon and Amen and Dylan Brooks, the reason I didn't name Green is because he's not consistent yet. He got to clean up some stuff. But he is a bona fide.

He's a bona fide. He's the one who's going to put the people in the seats. Yeah. Only 23 years old. That's what I said. It's a young team, man. They still got three. That is like three young team, man. They still got three. That is like three more years, man.

He shoot the three yard dunk. He got to get the in between. So before we get to mostly fans, Ryan, I got a question for you. Got to know, can you explain to the people why Kevin Durant doesn't like you? Oh, because I'm honest and he don't like stats. But the reason I think Kevin was just unfamiliar with't like stats, but I, um, the reason, the reason, I think Kevin was just unfamiliar with me. You know what I mean?

I think, uh, he didn't really, yeah, yeah, yeah, Kevin Durant. I remember that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. Uh, millions upon millions of views. Thank you, Kevin. Uh, it was an easy target. See, the thing is, I ain't never really liked a nigga anyway, if we being honest. Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah, no thing is, I ain't never really liked a nigga anyway, if we're being honest. Wow.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no. I'm talking about as a sports fan. I don't know the dude personally. I don't care. I was going to say he's a good dude. He's a good dude. That's what I'm saying.

When I say never liked, I never liked the move to Golden State. Okay, okay. Explain yourself before I get packed out a little. Because it's a competitive spirit thing. It's, man, you can't beat me in Uno, and then I want to team up with you. And the way you lose, like, you come down, you lose three, you're doing up 3-1. Up 3-1.

And then you lose that way. It's supposed to trigger something competitive in you to where you're like, I got to get my face back, and he ain't want it back. He joined the other team. Even if you feel like, if I lose to somebody where I had a major lead, I feel like I beat myself.

I wouldn't even, I would feel the need to show you that you ain't have it. And what is that? Like, I can't wrap my mind around it. And it ain't for me to understand. I ain't never been in that man's shoes. I'm just saying from my Like, I can't wrap my mind around it. And it ain't for me to understand. I ain't never been in that man's shoes. I'm just saying from my perspective,

I never could understand that. So what if you're living in Oklahoma City and you get the opportunity to move to the Bay Area? You rich enough to do that anyway. But what if I'm on vacation minding my goddamn business, and three motherfuckers who just lost to LeBron James call me up and fly all the way to see me,

to beg me to join them, and sweet-talk me into, oh, we can win the championship. Like, how is he getting the bad igma when they went to him? Oh, I thought that was weak on their behalf. You're like, you recruit me. You're showing me the nice titties in the ass.

I was happy where I was. But this is what I say. If they do that, I'll be like, nah. It's a shame y'all feel like y'all can't beat LeBron without me. I'm going to show y'all how to do it. I'm going to show you how to do it. As a competitor, I'll show you how to do it. I owe him one anyway, because he got me in Miami.

So I owe him one anyway. I need to give it one more try. Where is the competitive nature, bro? I'll give it one more try. I'll give it one more try. It ain't like you going to war. It ain't one more try, because once I sign that deal, bitch, I'm stuck here for five more years.

Yeah, it ain't like you going to war. You could have been doing like the two years. That's why he was doing a two-year deal. I hear y'all. He's not going to war with scrubs. He got Russ, Ibaka, Adams. It's not like you going to war with some scrubs and you've shown that you can compete against

these guys, bro. It felt like the easy way out, bro. And I'm cool with that. Get it however you get it. He's still got the finals MVPs. He got the rings. He got his MVP at OKC. He's going to be first ballot.

He's a top 15 player all time, depending on how you feel about him. You know, at the end of the day, he's all of these things. But you know what he'll never be able to do is take that stigma off of him for what he did. It was a non-competitive move. But you can do that with everyone. Is it? Can you? Yeah, you can. You can.

Nah, if you knock me out the playoffs after I'm up 3-1, bruh, where is the sense of pride? That's what I like. Where is the sense of pride if you coming after me? No, no, no. I'm saying I also. But they already got a ring. That's what I'm saying.

It don't matter to them. You whooped me, he beat your ass, and now you call me for help. Who's the weak one here? I whooped your ass. I'm on vacation. You should be looking at me like, why you been here, nigga? You whooped my ass. Boom.

Fuck you doing that? You just beat me up, man. You show up at my doorstep and say, I'm sorry, man. You beat the shit out of me. I had you, dog. I had you. I had you, damn.

I need you to do a haymaker and knock me the fuck out. So that's what I'm saying. Think about it. The person who just lost, you're 73 and whatever. You're coming to me. And? And you're getting credit for yours. And?

That's crazy. But, and? Like, you're the one begging, not me. You're the one. You just whooped his ass. You beat me. I get you. But I had a bad shooting performance to put you all away.

I need to show you what it is. You know what I mean? It ain't just that they lost to them. If KD plays better, they beat that Golden State team. You don't have nothing in you that makes you want to. For me, for me, you can't beat me in 2K and then I not want to run it back, bro. Where is the

competitive spirit? But that's what I'm saying. You took an L. You can't say, like, this is the best team in the NBA by record wise. Yeah. Y'all begging me, though. Yeah. This ain't me coming to y'all this I can say if he called and say man

Y'all got a lot of money over there. You know mean I want to join y'all So you also LeBron James with the best record in the NBA? Yeah, and then you come knocking on my door So he can and you know, I let's go get the second bet think about what I'm saying Let's go get the second best player in the NBA to join a team that we already won 73. But they look at y'all like y'all motherfucking gods. And I'm the one who takes the back seat. I don't. I don't.

I give them credit. I do. I'm saying. I mean, Katie. Katie, there's three Hall of Famers now because they begged the right motherfucker. But this is the thing. They begged the right person. They got one after.

They got one after. They got one before. And they got one after. But the NBA shifted because of that. I understand. I understand all that. We don't know what happens. If he don't go there, we don't know what happens when LeBron beats their ass a couple more times.

They start breaking that team up. He don't go there. I don't want to be a champion. But I'm just saying, you said... You got a ring because of that motherfucker. They said they came begging. He got a ring because of Kevin, right? You said they came begging, right?

Begging. But you can't say no. Perfect flight. You're not allowed to say no. You can't say no. You got to accept it like, all right, man, I'm sorry, man. You sold me on a good ass?

So this doesn't... You sold me. So this don't mean anything to you, Gil. Never heard players recruit. A man who has a ring because of this decision is still telling you, eh, the decision is kind of whack. But it is swaggy, though, so he'll tell you that today. He might change his opinion tomorrow.

Nah. At the end of the day, Gil, you a competitor, bro. No, I like what he did. I'm not saying that. I like what he did. But think, but what I'm saying is. I'm not saying that. I like what he did. But think about it. You're in a space where you're a free agent. He's a free agent.

He done got the scoring title a couple times. He done got an MVP. He's already first ballot Hall of Famer at 28, right? And then Curry, Klay, and Draymond as a group, the temptations fly all the way while I'm on vacation. Where you at, dog? I'm on vacation. We know they're not winning without him. Right, so you're saying the best team in the NBA

who just beat me is calling for help. That, come on, dog. How are y'all not? But you don't knock them for calling for help. You knock me for joining. I do. Nobody knocks them for that. Nobody sits I do. You knock me for joining. I do knock them for that. Nobody knocks them for that. Nobody sits there and puts this stigma on their name.

Because you want to know why? You want to know why? Because they won after, right? Because the conversation is never Steph asked. The conversation is always Draymond called crying. Who was on the plane with him? But this is what I'm saying. No, we know that.

But this is what I'm saying. Who told Dray plane with him? But this is what I'm saying. No, we know that. But this is what I'm saying. Who told you? Who told you about the call? If the conversation was always, Steph asked me to come, that changes the entire conversation because then people look at Steph crazy. Steph gets credit for stepping to the side

and allowing this guy to come in on his team. That's the way they draw the narrative for Steph. But if Steph was the one who made the call after Steph had no finals MVPs, just lost, you know what I mean? People, that stigma would have been on Steph too. But that's what I'm saying. It's just, it's a narrative because we...

I get it. Because Draymond called. But that's what I'm saying. Who the fuck tells Draymond to do shit? Listen, I get you. You see what I'm saying? But's what I'm saying. Listen, I get you. I'm just answering the question. I'm just answering the question. And I don't like it.

He came there. He won the championship. He got to the two finals MVP. You got your third for it. So if I'm going to give you credit for your three and your fourth, you got your fourth after, but I'm giving you credit for three. Y'all are sitting here doing four rings.

Four-door rings come from a dude that came to y'all team. So how do y'all get credit for four, but he's discredited for his two? I don't like that. I got to give you credit for it. Everybody gets the same credit. That's what I told you. I do first, front, and back. Those two in the middle, I don't even.

But see, you take those two away they're not gonna say he's the top they're not gonna say oh hey curry you a top that's what i'm saying you make a lot of sense and i don't argue with what you're saying me i i take it off the board i'm sorry it's just for me it's not a... What? The rings okay? The rings. Listen, man, you get to keep yours. You see what KD was doing? You get to keep yours. But what I'm saying, I throw off the table. You can't hate on KD now. I'm not hate... I'm talking about the situation.

All right. I would have liked to see... Once again, here comes the hate on KD. He is hating. When we talked about... He's a hater. When we talked about Melo getting in, who I say was the second best bucket getter of all time. KD?

So I got him in front of everybody who's ever played the game except Michael Jordan. It's not a backhand compliment. Hey, man. If you look. Hey, man. No, no, no. He does exactly what you do.

It's hard, but I would have got the green color. Like, what the fuck is that? You can put your hate aside and put him in his respect. Right. No. I just did that. Hey, man, them shoes is cold, but I like the gray ones.

I would've got the gray ones. See, but I don't say I would've got the gray ones. I like those, though. I would've told you why the gray ones. It ain't just taste. It is.

The reason I don't... It ain't just taste. At the end of the day, I'm telling you, Kevin Durant, no show down the back stretch of that, too.

You can't say that. Well, go look at the game. Look it up. Go look at the games. Go look at the numbers. I put it in the video. I put it in the video. That's the thing.

I don't argue with feelings. I don't come to arguments with feelings. Numbers is what I care about. Actually watching it is what I care about. So you're saying you don't like him because he no-showed, didn't laugh? No, no, no. Not like him.

I don't like his... That's about his game. Yeah, yeah. His game. Ain't no flaws in his game to me. So, so... He's the second best bucket getter in the history of the game. So you don't...

I don't like the whining. I don't like... I don't like the... I don't like the thin skin. I don't like the lack of competitiveness whenever he went and joined the team that he should have wanted to run it back against.

You wouldn't look at Kobe different. Wait a second. I'm just asking you a question. Why you got to stop me before I ask the question? Because I know where it's going. If Kobe, when he lost to the Celtics, he was like, trade me for Ray Allen. And then the next year, he won like, trade me for Ray Allen. And then

the next year, he won two times. No, no, no. It's like they're begging him. You gotta throw the bag in. They begged him. Okay. Alright. How about this? How about after he lost to the Phoenix Suns? And then the Suns end up losing to the Spurs. And they're like, man, we can't get past the Spurs.

Kobe, come over here. And Kobe was like, do you expect Kobe to be like, sure, I'll join you guys. Or be like, man, we can't get past Spurs. Kobe, come over here. And Kobe was like, do you expect Kobe to be like, sure, I'll join you guys? Or he be like, I owe you one. No, that's my beat. He going to say, hell no, I'm in the Laker uniform. Yeah. I live in Los Angeles.

Dwight, you better come over here. Steve Nash, you better come over here. But that's what I'm saying. If you felt like you needed more help to win, you go to your office and you go, hey, me and Russ need and Russ need somebody else see that cuz it's not cuz it ain't working We make it and I got along with somebody. No did he show up when he played for the for a Golden State? Those are some of his best defensive years when I think he was there he was the best all around

KD was while he was there. He was better there, and it's not because of the cast that was around him. He was truly in his prime. That injury kept us from seeing, like, I think he gets a ring with the Nets if it wasn't for the injury and the dysfunction that was going on down there. If Kyrie is able to play, James Harden don't get hurt. He ain't hurt. They walk away with a ring.

When he gave Giannis almost a 49-point triple-double when the season was on the line, that told you everything you need to know about KD, which bothers me even more that he didn't go and get his face back. If you that guy, why are you doing that, bro? You can get it done yourself. No. Because he didn't get his face back.

But no, you got to look at it. You got to look at also the totality of it all, right? There's, when they went to the championship and lost to Bron, they didn't get better. They got worse in the sense of we lost this player, we lost this player, we mismanaged. Because the city can't afford to build a championship like that. So that takes a factor in, too.

Oh, yeah, not giving James Harden, what, $4 million? Let him walk for $4 million was great. So when you're sitting there as a free agent and you're looking at, all right, this is, if I sign this contract with them, what's the chance of me winning a championship? I have a chance right now. Bird in my hand.

This is Dallas Mavericks right here, right? You have a chance. Him and Russ are good enough. They wasn't. Yeah. They were good enough. They wasn't. That's why they were up 3-1.

They weren't good enough to win no championship. Yes, they was. Why not? Wait a second. Because the same in the papers. Kyrie and LeBron, that's a good head up there. No, listen, listen. Just Kyrie and LeBron, so there was no Kevin Love there.

So I'm going to ask you this. I'm going to ask you this. Ibaka. I'm going to ask you this. Ibaka. Because you say automatically, like, Kevin Love and Kyrie are there, but in that first one against the Golden State Warriors, they got hurt. Yeah, they got hurt.

Yeah, they got hurt. So my thing is, you don't know nothing. Like, listen, KD gets more rings than that. If him and Klay Thompson don't go down, if Klay stay on the team, he could have got hurt. He still would have got his third ring if Klay Thompson don't go down. But healthy Cavs versus OKC, that's not even a...

Yeah, but at the end of the day, you don't know. That's the problem. I don't know, but I'm a free agent right now, and this is my chance to get a ring. Because I don't know what's going to happen to my legacy. It was earned, but it doesn't feel earned. That's what I said. Let's take away the two championships. Let's take away the two championships.

He don't make that move. And his legacy is the same way. He wouldn't have what he has. He wouldn't have two championships or two finals MVPs. Mm-hmm. His legacy is very different. And not to me. I don't even add that shit to his legacy.

I usually don't add a championship because that's team sport anyway. Yeah. I don't add it. You got a winner, that's why. Because Tony Parker is a finals MVP. Andre Iguod Parker is a Finals MVP. Andre Iguodala is a Finals MVP. And they're winners. Yeah, and they're winners, but I don't put Andre Iguodala's

Finals MVP in the same breath that I put Steph Curry's in when he really putting the team on his back to get the Celtics out of here. They really put that whole team on his back because they could have went to Wiggins, too. Now, now, now, I agree with that.

But you just can't say that. You can't. So why are we shutting down the people that helped? Man, stop batting for these motherfucking side niggas, man. That's why you never made it at the first round. That's why your ass is still here. Because you motherfuckers don't win. You need to have winners.

Hold on. What's up? Wait, hold on, Nick. I'm just going to be sorry because you're getting too bad. No, nigga. What did you do when you was a quarter, nigga? What the fuck did you do in the playoffs? You can't live in the Wizards.

Everywhere you went was a quarter, nigga. What did you do? What did you do? You went to the playoffs. You started two games in the playoffs. OK. That's going to get a little bit. You making a bet? You went to the playoffs. Let's look at what you did. You started two games in the playoffs. Okay, that's a little... You making a bet because you went to the Golden State Warriors. Yes, yes, yes.

That has nothing to do with you. You can't keep saying championship don't matter. I don't care because it's an individual. It's a team thing. It is a team thing, though. You won a championship because of the team. Okay, good. Not because of your ability.

When you was a corner nigga, you didn't even get to the... Fuck out the first round. Never. When I was a corner dude. You couldn't take it. You got to fall in line. You said it. When I was a corner...

Winners fall in line. It ain't about just motherfucking your stats. When you trying to win something at the team, you fall in line. When I was a... Everybody got to learn

to fall in line. When I was a corner dude, I wasn't important enough to do anything. So if we won a championship and I'm on a bench playing two minutes, it has nothing to do with me, brother. I didn't have enough to do anything. So if we won a championship and I'm on a bench playing two minutes, it has nothing to do with me, brother. I didn't have to

change no behavior to sit there for two minutes and do this shit. Gil, give me one. So when you're talking about a corner dude that has an importance to a team, you're trying to say that Allen Iverson's duty of trying to carry his

team to a championship and fall short because he didn't have enough on his team to have the right people. But you get more credit for sitting on the bench for two minutes

because y'all have the right people. No, I didn't sit up. Yeah, yeah. Are you watching the games? You see when people get hurt, when Iguodala got hurt, who else they went to? It's the next man up.

When I played against the Rockets, you don't know shit like that. Yes, he got hurt when Equidala got hurt. Who else they went to? It's the next man up. When I played against the Rockets. You don't know shit like that. Yes, he got hurt when we played the Rockets and we took him to game seven. You don't know this shit like that because you all you think about is fucking... When another side nigga get hurt, another side nigga come in, did Steph Curry get hurt? Did Klay Thompson get hurt? We see what happened. How about, where was those same niggas at when Steph Curry and Klay wasn't, or not, when Klay and KD wasn't playing?

Where was those side niggas against Toronto? I got a question. I'm asking you a question. It's a structure. It's a line. It's a structure. Two went out. So this couch wouldn't be where the fuck we at

if you was just sitting here by yourself, where would this fucking couch be? So you don't need Josiah. You don't need me. You don't need goddamn McCants. You don't need BJ. You sound dumb. Where was the? So when you're not here.

Where was those side niggas? You got to carry the show when you're not here. Where was the side? I'm asking you a question. You sound crazy. He's saying they didn't carry the show. KD and Klay is gone. Where was these side niggas then?

If they are so important to the heavy lifting. Okay, so if it's just KD. I'm asking you. I'm just asking. KD and Klay and nobody else playing. Where are they at? I'm asking the question. Where are they at?

You remove a main piece, who steps up? You're telling me, remove N'Gidala, put you in. He averages five, you averages five. Where they at? I'm going to just ask this question. Nick, I want both of y'all to answer. You know, do you see more value

in Jason Tatum's ring or Allen Iverson's Herculean effort to get his team there and take one game off the Lakers, which no one else was able to do? I'm going with Jason Tatum. So you'll take Jason Tatum's ring? Hell yeah.

All right. I think Allen Iverson... That's not the one. There's no other feeling. If you had never felt the feeling, you wouldn't understand. Hold on, I mean... That was hilarious. NBA champion of the world. That was hilarious. You wouldn't understand. feeling, you wouldn't understand. Hold on. That was hilarious.

That was hilarious. He said you wouldn't understand. You named the wrong person. You got a name. He values Drew Peterson. You don't know who that is. But the reason why I named a star player is because Jason Tatum got a ring because he was a big part of a great team, but that's a great team. Allen Iverson's ability to even get that team there.

But that's why I... That's why he's pushed down, down, down. That's why I hate that. I hate that because that's where the ring chasing idea comes from. Where it's just when you put... It is a team sport. It's a team sport.

Exactly. And I think whenever you... We're judging how great an individual is, right? Yes. That's what I'm saying. Winning. Winning. So now.

Nah, not for me. Okay. Not for me. So what's the Jordan argument? What's the Jordan argument? Six rings, right? Yeah. Bill Russell got 11.

So is Bill ahead of him? Six rings. Where has he left it, dog? Six rings. Six ain't more than 11. Six ain't more than 11. And he was the best player on his team for his 11 rings. Six rings. Where has he left them? Six rings. Six ain't more than 11. Six ain't more than 11. And he was the best player on his team for his 11 rings.

Six rings. Six rings. I believe your ability because we had the conversation earlier about Kobe Bryant pulling that Lakers team up the way that he did and Steve Nash got the MVP.

Kobe's main thing was trying to win a championship. But we're having a conversation very simply about that year that Kobe drug those guys to the playoffs. It looked good. It looked good. You didn't see that as more valuable? Than when he won in Boston? No, more valuable than when Steve Nash just won more because he was on a better team.

He didn't even win more. He lost more compared to what he did last year. I'm not talking about championships. I'm not talking about winning more. I'm talking about if he were to carry the team to a championship, that's different. I don't care. If you don't get it done, that's different. So you really look at Rip Hamilton as being better than Kobe because Kobe could never beat Rip Hamilton in a championship. No, you're going to change the criteria. They're both a champion.

Look, I understand. Nobody felt this feeling. So Rip Hamilton is better than James Harden? If you don't feel the feeling, you wouldn't understand. I get it. You've got to feel it. Chauncey Bill is better than James Harden? If you don't feel the feeling, you wouldn't understand. I get it. You've got to feel it. Chauncey Billups is better than James Harden. Who?

Chauncey Billups is better than James Harden. What? I'm talking about winning. He took his thing. He a Hall of Famer, too. He Hall of Famer. He won a championship. He got a finals MVP.

Is Chauncey Billups not that guy? This is moving around. Is he better than... That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying is fucking W guy? Is he better than... Let's start saying his fucking better than Ron Harper or some shit. Let's just start moving this shit around. I named a Hall of Famer. Are we talking about stars, superstars?

A role player? That shit don't make sense. Y'all talking stupid now. Chauncey Billups is a Hall of Famer. Alright. And he won a championship and was finals MVP. Chelsea Bullets are Carmelo Anthony. They just started saying crazy shit.

They just started... But it was you putting the value in the... Okay. You were putting the value on the championship on a role player who plays two minutes

versus a star who has to carry his team. That was the real argument. That you're putting the value on someone who plays... Oh, he's valuable to argument, that you're putting a value on someone who plays. Oh, he's valuable to the team. I'm putting a value on winning. If you're a star player and you got rings behind you,

yes, that push your ass in front of everybody, yes. Yes, okay. Yes. Now keep going. Winning, nigga, it's winning. We said star players, yes. That's what the... This argument was about a star player who didn't do it

versus a role player. A star player, okay. But a star player who didn't do it versus a role player. A star player. That's a role player. But a star player in question. We was on KD. I got you. I'm bringing it back. The star player in question joined a team with a two-time MVP, unanimous MVP, and champion,

and team that just broke the record for most wins in a season. Yet we're going to act like those championships have the same weight as another star who's pulling his team to a championship. I feel like that's not the same. I think Giannis' one championship is better than his two. You know the bad part about it all? The narrative is going to always change depending on what you're talking about. If you put just a criteria out there and say this is the criteria on how we're going to

rank everyone, everyone would be mad. Because if you say championships are that important, where would Michael Jordan actually be if that was the criteria, right? Because there's going to be a lot of people in front of him. There's going to be a lot of people when it comes to championships because you can't use finals MVP because it wasn't created for some of those guys.

Then you put... So you have to start manipulating the argument for people to move in because when he became the goat it wasn't off of championship is it off of just who know they were calling him the goat before the champs okay man winning don't matter kids Just shoot the ball as much as you want. Win it or not. That's how he got it. Swag it. Win it. Wait, hold on. That's how he got it.

Win it or not, y'all. That's how he got it. Tell the kids. Tell the kids win it or not. That's how he got it. Stats matter more than winning. That's how he got it. I know.

Hey. What the fuck you talking about? That's how he got it in 92. Nick. What was... Can you tell me his stats in 92? Let's have a real conversation. Yeah, man.

In 1992... I don't talk to niggas that ain't one, man. My job is to... If you ain't one... Gil, Gil. There's no reason you can't talk to me. The nigga got swept and they called him Jesus. That's cool, man.

What? You don't know history. 92. 92, he only had two championships. I don't talk to people that ain't one. He was called the GOAT. So there was no 6-0. It was just 2-0.

So Swaggy... What was they going off of? Stats. So there was no six and oh, it was just two and oh so so what was what was they going off of? Stats so swag boring titles you want to talk to winners a winner says a reminder our fans There's a LeBron free pick available you for tonight's Lakers Warriors game as a way to celebrate reaching 1 million subscribers earlier this way Swagger you also said, get your ass out of here. I don't like winners. I don't like winners. Well, Gil, you running around

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