Gil's Arena - Anthony Davis & Harden TRADED Shakes Up Gil's Arena

Episode Date: February 4, 2026

James Harden & The NBA's Deadline Deals SHAKE UP Gil's Arena as Gilbert Arenas & the Gil's Arena Crew react to James Harden being dealt to the Cleveland Cavaliers in exchange for Darius Garland and de...bate how Harden teaming up with Donovan Mitchell on the Cavs changes the dynamic of the NBA's Eastern Conference. They also discuss how another trade for the Beard impacts his legacy before breaking down another blockbuster in the NBA Trade Deadling as Jaren Jackson Jr was dealt to the Utah Jazz for a treaure chest of 1st Round Picks and discuss what this move means for Ja Morant as the team shipped off his best teammate and commited to building around Zach Edey. Next, they react to Kawhi Leonard getting added to the NBA All Star Roster by Adam Silver and give their final takes on the league's midseason classic before reacting to smaller deals occuring across the NBA including the Boston Celtics making a deal for Nikola Vucevic to bolster their surprise contending season. Finally, they react to Cooper Flagg dropping a career high 49 points on Kon Knueppel to prove he's the best rookie in the NBA and discuss Jason Kidd standing on business over his decision to play Flagg at the Point Guard position early in his career. PLEASE give us a Like and Subscribe!! Today's Gil's Arena Crew : Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Brandon Jennings, Nick Young, & Kenyon Martin Gil's Arena premieres every Wednesday & Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog HERE with promo code GIL and play $5 to get $75 in bonus funds or bonus entries https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... SUBSCRIBE:    / @thearena0   Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos!   / discord   Must be 18+ (19+ in AL, NE; 19+ in CO for some games; 21+ in AZ & MA) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369) 2 Min Countdown 0:00:00 Show Start 0:01:57 Anthony Davis TRADED To Washington 0:05:50 Mavs Reset After Luka 0:22:00 JJJ Trade Sets Off The Grizzlies Rebuild 0:37:14 Gil Needs A Lakers Trade 0:52:14 Every Lotto Pick From '18 Draft Has Been Traded 1:01:45 Harden Traded To The Cavaliers 1:02:38 Chicago Bulls Making Moves 1:26:28 The Vuc Trade IGNITES The Arena 1:38:57 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:57 Damn. Might be shipping me to 520. Keep my prayers up. Pray for me, chat. But this is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. I'm merely a host, Josiah Johnson. We got the NBA legend, current Arc Raiders player, Gilbert. Arenas here with us.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Can't do that. You can't do that. You forgot. Yeah. See the next to Gil. We got NBA champion of the world's swaggy Pete Nick Young back here with us. Okay. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Represent a tough crowd and a card-carrying country club member. We got Mr. B. Brandon Jennings. What's going on with you? What? What happened with him? You got, like, you're good? Yeah. I know, what's you're confused with me?
Starting point is 00:01:50 Does this look like BJ? Over here? Like he looked all normal and regular and like he's about to be a mild manner. Put the glasses back on. I've been working, man. Put the sunglasses in the inside on, man. I was in the studio making some music.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Let me know you on some bullshit. Oh, you got to be? I was in the studio making some music this morning. Well, you're going to have to bring him to a Gills Arena. Wait, in your music. Huh? Love music. No, no, some world artists.
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Starting point is 00:02:24 DJ Kelly. On this side of couch, you have the distinguished gentleman from Oak Cliff, former number one pick Canyon Martin. Which is the Debo's T-Shirt, very appropriate. Very appropriate. And last but not least, the man they call Timitry Larry, NCAA champion of the world, Rashab McKinth.
Starting point is 00:02:48 I like the timing on that. I like the timing on that. It's time to execute order 66? You're breaking down. I have like the battery. You didn't use that. We got a lot to get into, obviously, a lot of trades going on around the league as we get closer and closer to the NBA trade deadline tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:03:12 But here's what's cracking in Gil's Arena today. The James Hardin era with the Clippers is officially over with his trade to the Cavs for Darius Garland. How much does Hardin move the needle for Cleveland in the east? The Grizzly shipped former defensive player of the year, Jaron Jackson Jr. to the Jazz and now have 13 first round picks in the next seven years. Is Memphis cooked or cooking? And A.D. got traded to the Wizards in a stunning deadline move just a year after being
Starting point is 00:03:42 a part of the biggest mid-season training here. What does this mean for the Wizards and Mabs moving forward? But before we get into all that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog. The big game is finally here, and if you want to get in on the action, you already know I'm using Underdog. It's super simple. You just pick higher or lower on two or more player stats, like touchdowns, receptions, and more. And you can win up to 5,000 times your entry. And it's not just football, they got all the options.
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Starting point is 00:04:42 10-time All-Star Anthony Davis is on the move yet again. So let's take a look. According to Shams, the Mavs are trading AD, Jaden Hardy, DeAngelo Russell, and Dante Exum to the Wizards for Chris Middleton, A.J. Johnson, Malachi Brandem, Marvin Bagley, two first round picks and three second rounders. So Dallas is getting a 2026 Thunder first round pick and a 2030 protected Warriors first round pick in this deal from the Wizards, along with second rounders in 2026, 2027, and 2020. So Anthony Davis now joins a wizard squad featuring Trey Young, Alex Sark, Kishon, George, Trey Johnson, and Bilal Kula Bali. Gil, former wizard, wizard great, wizard legend, Agent Zero. What's your reaction to AD getting traded to the Wizards to team up with Trey Young and Alex Sari Smoke? It's not, oh, wait, check it again, rev it up.
Starting point is 00:05:35 There we go, there we go. We got some smoke here, Gil's a ridder. That's the, that's not a batch. Let's just be honest. they are a A plus right now on trades you got Trey Young and Anthony Davis and you keep your draft pick and you have SAR
Starting point is 00:05:57 and you have AJ you have a whole bunch of young boys over there witch and veterans and you're going to get a top 10 pick that's where you send the trash like every trash is No that's where they sent it when you was there It's either the sack or No no no when you was there that's what it
Starting point is 00:06:17 That's just where the trash go now. Like, when you get traded to the Wizards, it's like, damn, I'm almost out the lead type shit, damn. I'm just saying. So do you just sit, uh, Trey Young in them? Wait, hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 00:06:28 I just want to just, I'm just saying. Did you get traded or did you get traded away to the trash? I'm just saying. Where did you go? You got drafted there, but where did you go? You got traded out of there. Your, your best year was there.
Starting point is 00:06:41 No, no, no, no, no. Then you left. No, no, no. And then your career went down here from that. No, no. So, so back. That's you. You thinking about you when you were number nine. I did other shit after that.
Starting point is 00:06:52 What did you do? I don't know. Okay. You know what I did. Okay. So let's back on topic. Back on topic. It's a great trade for what they're trying to do.
Starting point is 00:07:04 They have two bona fide hall of famers. They got young big man who looks like he was the best pick out of the one and two. So it looked out of the one and two. so that's him and Shaghiar over there. Research, okay. Okay. So, you know, they were trying to figure out who's going to be one and two. Obviously, he should have been the number one pick.
Starting point is 00:07:24 But so, you know, Wizards got the real number one pick from the production so far. He plays the five and then Davis played a four. They both can play inside, outside. They both play a little defense, right? So defensively going to be great. Now pick and roll with Trey Young is going to be off the chain. And then whatever they pick in the draft, Most likely you don't have what?
Starting point is 00:07:47 7, 8, 9, 10. If Elijah comes up, probably him at the two. Elijah Arunis. Talk of it. Talked it. I like that. I like that. I like that.
Starting point is 00:08:02 I'm just saying. I like that. I'm just saying. I like that. That is the internet chatter right now. I like that. I like that. I like that.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Okay. Looking. I'm liking it. I'm a fan of AD there. You know you watching. And what you think about the dude from Indiana guarding your son while wearing your shoes? Listen, as a troll, I thought it was amazing, right?
Starting point is 00:08:28 Because he has to look down and blah, blah, blah, but then, you know, it's just an end of it's supposed to end for him. Yeah, because he was, did you remember that picture that all of us had to sign a picture of ourselves and you see the one guy that was playing defense on his picture like this? Yeah. Right? They had on number 54.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know who that gentleman is. That's the way that motherfucker was gone Elijah. Don't know who that gentleman? I heard that gentleman, great-looking. Because I'm like I said, listen, you gotta go out of your way. Your colors is red and black. You went out of your way to five nose and try to troll.
Starting point is 00:09:00 I like it, so. That was dope. They'd just be UCLA a couple days earlier, but the trolling was on, but... That's going on there. Just be Cooper Flagg all over again. AD gone. AD on the Withers. Let's shift over it. What do you think about the Wizards trading for Anthony Davis?
Starting point is 00:09:22 pair him up with Tray Young, Alex R, and the rest of that young core they have over there in Washington, D.C.? I don't know. That's what I'm saying. When he's healthy, yeah, he plays well. It's just so far in between. So I'm going to go to the hell. I'm going to say he's healthy. I'm going to try to be optimistic in this, right?
Starting point is 00:09:49 Yeah, that's a good trade. He compliments what Sard does well. He can play his natural position he wants to play. I think it's before he wants to pick and pot. So yeah, no, it's teams are doing something. Washington is making moves, I guess, for the foreseeable future. Not this season, of course. Yeah, just taking recipes from other teams in the past and getting valuable pieces, sitting guys,
Starting point is 00:10:26 because there's money for Tray Young to come back this year. Doesn't need Anthony Davis to come back this year. So sit them, get your pick, and get ready for next year. Yeah, it's interesting that he was the piece that the Mavericks traded for, I'm saying, for Luca and that whole gig. Under previous general manager, Nico Harrison. Yeah, now on the move. again is... I want to move again?
Starting point is 00:10:53 Yeah, all right. But no, if he's healthy, man, he definitely is one of the better bigs in the NBA. So that's the big if, so okay, AD been out since early January with that hand injury he suffered, averaging 20 points and 11 rebounds in 20 games this season. Shot, I see you have the book out, a new chapter in the book or is it just... Contemplating. Okay. I think I did say something about the Wizards.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Trey Young got a little bit of pushback. Saying Trey Young and then wouldn't make it to the playoffs if they just had him by himself. He did it with Les in Atlanta. Now he has a lot more to work with now. I think the circle is a little bit full now, like it always is. Wizards made drastic moves, but I think it was more about the Mavericks tanking. I think they're trying to devalue the franchise and make a move. A move nobody's really looking at right now.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Just not going to talk about it until it happens. Shoshradamus. Not going to talk about it until it happens. But Wizards, it did exactly what I thought they would do. Making moves to be in playoff contingent for next year. Whether ADs looked at as Mr. Glass or not, I think that they needed to make. these moves, they got a promising core over there now, they can do some damage.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Mr. B., you like this move for the Wizards, 10-time off for Andrew Davis. Yeah, I like it. I like it. I mean, I'm sure they're just going to sit AD and Trey Young for the rest of the year. Now it just depends on how they draft. You know, what draft picks they get and then, you know, who they draft at those positions. That can help them and all we can do now is just wait and see what happens you saw your Instagram earlier today very excited about the move very chipper yeah we was chipper when we got tri young because you know you get a damn they're all 25 and 10 30 and 10 guy now you just added Anthony Davis to that mix and we know he's on the
Starting point is 00:13:20 defense aside, but when you're talking about just what Trey Young needs, Andy Davis is obviously the best player he's ever played with. The one that's coming right now, as is, finger, eyeball, knees, ankles, toes,
Starting point is 00:13:39 elbows, stomach, whatever. Whatever he decides he's going to be injured that day, that is better than anybody he's ever played with. Right? So, you know, um, That right there changes, you know, how Trey Young plays. Now he has a dual threat that would help him.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Now you have Young Sar jumping and doing that. You got Trey over there. I mean, I'm just going on a limit and say it. I'll see it. Don't do it, too. If Detroit, if Detroit don't upgrade this summer, because we know Nix is going to do something dumb. They're going to do something dumb.
Starting point is 00:14:20 If Detroit don't upgrade, what's his favorite in Eastman? Favorite in what is the next? The win. Okay, third, man. Okay. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:30 So, okay. I'm not about to say. Top third. Third. Third. Three. I forgot. No, I forgot Boston.
Starting point is 00:14:36 I'm going to say Boston. I'm going to miss my eyes on that. Can you do you have a razor in your pocket? You want to bitch eyebrows on that? Ready to shave them right now? You know, I'll cut my shit. That they not top three? You know I'll cut my.
Starting point is 00:14:48 That they not top three. I got to wait to the company. No, you said you're going out in the limb, so let's go out on the limb. No, I know I said that. I got to go out on a little bit. I want to put you out on that plane now. New York, I want you to walk the plank, man. Don't say that because I'm thinking New York is going to do something dumb.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Okay. If they do something dumb, they're going to fall. They're going to upgrade. If Detroit don't upgrade and then Boston's coming back. There's different people in the front office in New York. That's what they do. Like the old regime in New York's front office, I would agree with you. This new regime in this front office?
Starting point is 00:15:19 Not so much. No, then we got calves. We got calves. We're going to make the top five. You went from Front Runner in the East to top three to top five. Top five. Top six. I'm not that delusional. But you think playoff team, like in the number four, six, playoff team in the Eastern Conference?
Starting point is 00:15:42 No, you can't depend. Yeah. Hallibur. I was last thing. I was fucking being nice. You couldn't depend on the West Coast, Anthony Davis. This is the East Coast. You got to get up earlier.
Starting point is 00:15:54 It's an East Coast saying a very different person. This is. Frey-Jel over there. How we know that he ain't never played out there? Huh? Huh? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:16:05 He has hope. I know that girl that moved from Ohio or something to LA, new person. Or from L.A. to Ohio, a new person. She has worked at a different street. Yeah. She has worked at a different shift. She just flew a couple of hours.
Starting point is 00:16:19 She just threw a couple hours. She's getting a big bag now. She's still the same person. And she completed here, she don't got no competition in. Same bacteria. Yeah. Yeah. She got the same.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Sam's and Sam. Same, same tea. Same smell. Sam's and Sam's. New perfume, same smell. Body splash. Yeah. Stripper spray.
Starting point is 00:16:38 That did that shit, that's the same shit. I smell you, baby. I knew you. Sliper spray. I saw, I smell you coming. I knew you. I knew you was in here. Hey, smell like dirty mop water.
Starting point is 00:16:48 I knew you was in here. Dirty mop water. Water and splash. Oh, yeah. That's what the 80 cut. We see you? 80 previously played in the central time zone when he's with the New Orleans. Like it's now shifting over.
Starting point is 00:17:03 One more hour. Yeah, like I said, put it, put it, put the, yeah, put the aster next to it. He gonna play a four? Yeah, that's the position you want to play. But Saur at the 5 AD at the 4th. They in the, yeah, they 4-5, 5, 4. Yeah, I'm about to say. Is it fair to say?
Starting point is 00:17:20 To the playoffs, though? When next year? No. I don't know. No. I have no idea. Is it fair to say they make the playoffs? Yeah, they make the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:17:29 They're top 10 next year. Top 10 in the east? Top 10 in the east? That's not, to get a playing game, that's not hard to do. I got them top six. Top six. Yeah. But are they a seven-game series team?
Starting point is 00:17:40 Everybody healthy? I mean, Yon is something's going to happen. Okay. Well, we don't count me walking now. I know. We've got a couple other teams that's going to trade young coming, back yeah I think playoffs for sure Miami gonna do something Miami ain't gonna stay stagnant I mean watch it I mean the Wizards they're not done they still got draft picks
Starting point is 00:18:00 they got mm-hmm Trey young Anthony David Trey young got that Atlanta to the playoffs and far 2000 when he was that when he was that just tell me you already fought against this point and lost they had I'm not Okay, they're already lost. The same shit. He already had this conversation. Y'all said that was my opinion shit this year. The Atlanta team went also, but they weren't slouches.
Starting point is 00:18:30 I'll say here and said that the Wizards made that trade. They weren't. They weren't slouchers. And I'm like, they're going to make something happen. Trey Young is it? Who said it was, what's the week? Who said that? I don't think he was here.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Was he here that day? It was just us. Well, yeah, I was on. We were talking about the Wizards. Oh, yeah. They made that trade. Oh, yeah. I was on upstairs again.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Gilligan's Island, if you were. Yeah. So, yeah, he fought that shit took the nail. Like, I'm going to get a time. Jeff. It'll be able to get a crack here, though. They're going to get it cracking. He took them, and he took them while he can't take them.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Right. By himself, not with AD. And he got the same names in Sack. AD and Sard together. They have the same names in Sack. And look at them. Same names. It's going to be a different.
Starting point is 00:19:14 It's going to be a different East Coast. They're young as old. Oh, yeah, yeah. 20, 28, 20, Lucy. Yeah. It's going to be a different. Where is that? next year. So we'll see how to...
Starting point is 00:19:21 I'm not saying the top three teams, not this one, not a wizard's team. But if 80 play how many games. Do he want to play there, though? Yeah. You see your face? What's going on in? What's eating your regret?
Starting point is 00:19:38 No, sorry, man. You're fighting for him. What is? You're going to get there one day. Keep fighting for him. I'm sorry. You're not hanging in it, dog. No.
Starting point is 00:19:48 You got to let it go. Oh, you got to let it go. let it go. Let's shift over to the math side of things. So according to ESP, because look, he's like, don't, everybody moving forward, don't mention Wizards. Chicago Bulls are trading, Colby. All right, don't mention Wizards.
Starting point is 00:20:03 It is a trigger. He traded him. And Mike Conley. Right. Oh, the trip to the shoulder horn. Because they trade. They traded them. And then a lot of tricks.
Starting point is 00:20:13 He was averaging like 17. He was supposed to get paid. And then he got traded and started averaging nine as a clipper. It's going down today. Yeah. A lot of movement going on. Going down. We're going to get over 24 hours away from Detroit.
Starting point is 00:20:25 The math's doing something, though, Joe. The math, so let's talk about the mask, dead. The math's making moves, man. You're going to get you. Bring Kyrie back next to you. I'm not going to stop talking about it. I was he coming back healthy? Hey, you know, I said follow.
Starting point is 00:20:39 I said, you're going to ask. The statue. He's going to follow at the last game. You could be. Every's going to be all right, bro. All right, so let's talk about the math. So according to ESPN's Bobby Mark's, now have the resources started with the life.
Starting point is 00:20:50 likely lottery pick and a late first and financial roster to build their roster around Cooper Flagg. So Dallas has $150 million to guarantee money next year well below the tax and apron. For this season, Dallas drops below the luxury tax and both aprons. And they have flexibility in next 24 hours to continue building up their draft assets.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Also looking at Cooper Flagg. Now, Mads have lost five straight games. Cooper Flag been out here cooking. 49 points against the Hornets last Thursday. Most by a 19-year-old in-Bay history. Three straight 30-point games. First team to do that. What does this move me for Cooper Flagg and the Mavskins?
Starting point is 00:21:31 I mean for Cooper Flagg. I mean, he, welcome to the NBA. You're not going to be part of that elite list that usually goes to a playoff team. And then they instantly fight for a championship, you know, Magic, Tim Duncan. Because you got drafted too in that situation. But this organization was dumb enough to break it all apart. So now you have to do exactly what the rest of the number one pigs do. Go to a team and catch the males and then try to build your legacy.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Three years from now, they're going to be saying, damn. He didn't win no championship. A white American hooper girl, he has at least seven years. That's what they did to me, Gil? That's what they did to me, you know what I mean? Usually that first two years you win the championship, it's sealed. Then later in your career, you have a year. You can get your points and you accolades.
Starting point is 00:22:25 I'm like, right here? No, so, welcome, welcome. You know, this is exactly what everybody else go through. That was number one. You go to the bottom feeding team that doesn't know how to win. And then your career is based off of their decisions. You was put in a great situation and they, over. Because, I mean, they're going to have to trade,
Starting point is 00:22:49 Kirby, too. Yeah. Then get rid of clay. That's a trade Karee Slavie time over there I mean if you're going to break it down You might as well break it down
Starting point is 00:22:59 All the way to its parts Right you're not gonna If you're giving the team to If you're giving the team to him You gotta give it all the way to him Right And it seems like Jay kid Put his ass back at the point
Starting point is 00:23:11 But we're not calling the point But they put him back at the ball here Yeah It's at 4 to 9 and 30 something We're gonna talk a little bit more About all that later in the show But so Right now
Starting point is 00:23:21 You didn't say to? Yeah Okay Is that right now It seems like they have to They're gonna go younger So now it's just trying to figure out Who's gonna survive it
Starting point is 00:23:34 If I'm them, I don't keep Gaffert Put some shooters around them Right, it's just so you can't clog the lane up I mean it's just one of those You're gonna have to see what stays and what goes And then from there just pick the pieces You know according to his talent But you think Kyrie?
Starting point is 00:23:57 The signals Yeah, it has to I mean you know what I mean Like it has to. We've seen franchises tank. We've seen franchises go from valuable to invaluable overnight with trades. And I think when you're trying to move a franchise from one place to another, you need to figure out how it makes sense to go from Dallas to Vegas. You know, you got to devalue what you got.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Moving these pieces, like he said, when Cooper comes in, It looks great for him to create a legacy on the championship style team. These pieces go down. I don't necessarily see these pieces go down. One piece was already down. One piece comes in due to a trade, and they see it as a move that was for the future when I think it was all in-house. I think it was all Mark Cuban.
Starting point is 00:24:52 I think it was all Jason Kidd. And ownership, the ownership group needing to have an excuse to move the team. I think everybody in the cahoots with what's going on over there. Cooper Flag is going to be the beneficiary of it all because he gets to have his team to himself and do what he wants. Build it, like he said, build his legacy based on being a bottom feeding team, creating separation with all the rest of the pack, and then coming back in a new place where he can actually build around him with these pieces they're accumulating. That's just a theory, allegedly. but
Starting point is 00:25:28 wait to move the Dallas team to Vegas? Mm-hmm. Just little birdies. Why went to just build a new team in Vegas? Why moved that team to Vegas and then have to build a new team in Dallas? Figure it out.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Ownership obviously has ties to the gaming industry deal. They were trying to, I think, put a They're already in Vegas, basically. Okay. Former owner of the Sands. Just heavy all over the world. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Couldn't they just had been cheaper to build it? Can they just have? that build the team in Vegas? No, you have to get a license. So I'm going to buy a team in somewhere else and then move it to Vegas, but I can just buy a team in Vegas. Permits and licenses. Sancer fees and all that good.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Families and. And that's going to, I'm, okay, the one I buy right now, mafia. I'm still going to have to go get the same permits and same. I merely host. Shout out to the Rams. If it's cheaper, if it's cheaper for us to move based on the value of the evaluation. I think it's more expensive to move.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Not right. Not if you devout. Buy at this price. Not if you deval. They got to go get permits and debt and then build the stadium and do it. But that ain't none of their restrictions. They got some of the play already. They already got the shit.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Team mobile right now. Team mobile are there? Yeah, they got some of the play there. So they could have just. I'm saying if that's something. But they could have cheaper to just start a team there. Right. I think they're going to just sit their ass in Dallas, like some good old boys.
Starting point is 00:26:53 And then build a new stadium. The Dallas is a big team. They are talking about moving, like building a new stadium in Dallas. They're going to build a new stadium in Dallas. Yeah, they're going to build a new stadium. I mean, this is not like a small market. This is a big team, right? You're not going to just get up and go.
Starting point is 00:27:08 And then it's just going to be empty for somebody else to go rebuild a team. Like it's, I don't know. Was Seattle? That was a big market. No, no. You said Seattle? No.
Starting point is 00:27:21 A fine city, though. Great city. Not no more. Currently in the Super Bowl. Was Oklahoma City a big city? Big market? No. So you moved from Seattle?
Starting point is 00:27:31 Not a sufficient. amount of chilies or apple beef. That what they did? Mm-hmm. Well, I don't think it's about the market, is it? Yeah. You can move it. You can move it to make sense for the league.
Starting point is 00:27:43 But wouldn't they make a lot more money in Vegas? In the sports betting and the casinos and the... Wouldn't they make more money in Vegas? They do not a future star, though. Can they just be balling, so get rid of all these motherfuckers? I don't know. How was the football team doing? Where?
Starting point is 00:27:57 Football is big. The Las Vegas, Gil, we don't speak about the Las Vegas radar. So I mean they got the number one picking the draft. I mean, what I'm talking about the franchise? For the last three years. Was it bigger there, or bigger in Oakland or bigger in L.A.? Bigger in L.A. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Then Oakland. Then Vick, so. But that's a stadium currency. I would say Vegas bigger. I mean, Texas has three teams for a reason. What's Vegas market? They can put a fourth in there and it will still, you know, do big numbers. Vegas, a destination city?
Starting point is 00:28:31 Vegas. The team is going. The NBA team is going there. I don't think it'll be this Mavericks team. I just think it's they're in a big market. Sacramento. Them. They can move them.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Did the Lufth brothers ever try to move that team? The move owners of former ones? They just got to like the bean. Did they ever try to move it? They don't know. They're going to ever like the bean. They just got to like the beam. So they're going to try to keep that going.
Starting point is 00:28:57 I just remember I said it first. As you know, Sacramento is not a big fan of Gilzorina presented by $100. Got the beam. Just remember. Never getting it. It's like David Booker. Like the Saber.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Yeah, like, I think they put it on. Then they do the same thing to Devon Booker. They traded everybody. Then in three years, he made it to the championship to the finals. When Chris Paul came, it don't have to be. You've got to move the team. Just Cooper flag and balling. Could it just be that?
Starting point is 00:29:29 So you trade everything around them. AD felt like a distraction because the fans and he always hurt. I mean, I have 49. I don't know. I think that's it. They got to let that man just a little bit of year. Man, he even got traded for two of them white people. And a little over a year swagging, you mentioned AD on the Lakers got traded.
Starting point is 00:29:55 He got a man for a white man, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Did you not hear an old boy come out and say, I won't this guy off this team by the deadline. There you go. Huh? There's no one of the I won him off this team by this deadline. So we,
Starting point is 00:30:10 because I know if I'm him, I'm this dude over here, we know what they are. They want to build around him. We need to get him out of here instead of just sitting him in the dormant.
Starting point is 00:30:22 We just get him out of here. We can go make some moves on our own. Because Kyrie is going to have to do some Clayton, just like he said. These two guys are gone. We're building around him. We don't need no distraction.
Starting point is 00:30:33 That's fine. That's fine. You've seen it. before though. So you're bringing the value down? No, you're not. You got a All-Star. Does the value go up when we're a championship contending
Starting point is 00:30:44 team or does it go down? We just came from the finals. It's a player. We got new ownership after that. Wasn't they always a big but I think the value obviously determines like you got the Lakers at 10 point, that's $10 billion dollar sale. Win and a loser. Yeah, that was no.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Listen, the visibility and the value, they after the Western Conference Final, they was up here. They sold at the top. Yeah, they sold when it was at his highest value. They was at his highest value. This is when the, when the Mavericks was up here, they made moves.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Even more, if you were to wait a bit, bring the value up more now. Then it's because of inflation. No, because the Lakers moved it up. But he thought at that point, that was. But shit, you know. It's the best, it's the best. It's the best. So right now.
Starting point is 00:31:28 At the time. Yeah, for sure. They win one game. They're still going to be wherever they are, seven, amen. But how do they benefit? devaluing their team for the move for the moves that need to be made for the numbers to make sense the numbers need to make sense for the evaluation man what I'm okay tanking and you losing assets that are worth money my numbers on the books all that okay and then and then I
Starting point is 00:31:54 say I'm losing money here so can I move like I'm trying to figure out so if you have I'm not sell if I got a pitch dick right and I say we go here we're going to make more money here than here because we have vertical integration here. We got sports books, we got betting, we got casinos, we got all that integrated.
Starting point is 00:32:13 What other teams in the league have sports books a part of the actual arena? At least three, maybe four. Cabs, they said that sports books? Sons, I believe. Sons got one. They're integrating this type of philosophy
Starting point is 00:32:27 within the NBA where you can actually bet the casinos can be a part of it. Mark Cuban put in a bid to have a casino. in Dallas and they've rejected that shit. This was before he did the ownership deal. That's what the Adel says we're looking for and that's what we talked about they made. This all makes sense for what's going on right now for them to make the move happen.
Starting point is 00:32:46 They've been rejected too many times because the numbers got to add up. You can't pay Luca $350 million and still try to make a move and bring the casino into Dallas. How about how you deval your own products and to move it? I'm still confused. Not having to pay so much money to move it. Like the Clippers. Like, what's name used to do? Bomber.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Basically, right? Donald Sterling, obviously. Just keep the team. Okay, keep the, no, I get under. And then he came in. I understand winning five names. He overpaid for it. Right?
Starting point is 00:33:18 Overpaid for it. What I'm saying is, me doing that, how does that help me move? Because it costs, it costs you less to move. Aren't they trying to move anyway? I got to get, the owner trying to. You got to get approved to move. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Right. That's the whole. So why would the NBA approve it if you hear or here? If they don't want you to move, they don't want you to move. The NBA is called the National Basketball Association. We are all associated. So we get a cut when you get a cut. You said Dallas.
Starting point is 00:33:53 I mean, who has sportsbook? Dallas is Dallas. Dallas, based on the last one thing. I could see Seattle. Huh? Yeah, I can see a small market team going to something. But they did just get paid in around that time. No, no.
Starting point is 00:34:04 So like the kings and... Yeah, I can see the king. Because Cleveland has a sports book, right? Who else has a sports book? Yeah, Memphis. Hold on. Because Cleveland got a sports book, but I don't see with their sports book, they jumped in front of anybody on...
Starting point is 00:34:20 They're not jumping in front of Philly of being Worthmore. Wherever they are. I don't know if some of these are still operating, but the wizard's sons and calves have had one at times. Okay. So what I'm saying is... And I don't think the sons have one anymore. What I'm saying is...
Starting point is 00:34:34 Dallas goes to... They can put 20 casinos in that bitch. The franchise ain't jumping in front of New York, Boston, Clippers, L.A. Lakers, Brooklyn Nets. They're not. It's just not a thing. Right? Dallas is a tier two market of a value. It's just, it's the city population.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Their numbers are going to stay the same consistently, right? Because their market doesn't change. If we go to Vegas, our market changed. We got tourism. We got events. Yeah, but what's the market? That's why I asked about the football. Because it's a football team.
Starting point is 00:35:18 I asked about the football team. How are they doing? And the WNBA. We've seen them two places already. Yeah. We've seen them in a big market. And then it went down to Oakland. And then they're in this third one.
Starting point is 00:35:28 So I wanted to see what the evaluation was. They're about to do a baseball team too. They're about to do a baseball team too in Vegas. I mean, it's an untapped market. But Raider fans are real fans. It's still the population of cities. All right, let's keep this thing moving. But before we do, we got nearly 24,000 people in the chat.
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Starting point is 00:35:57 So Grizzlies made a major move before the trade deadline signals the beginning of a rebuild. Let's take a look at what went down. What went down, sending Star Forward and former defensive player of the year, Jaron Jackson, Jr., to the Jazz, along with John Conchard, Jack Landell, and Vince Williams, Jr., in exchange for Walter Clayton, Jr., Kyle Anderson, Taylor Hendrix, George's Neang, and three future first-round picks. So the Jazz now team up JJJ with Lori Marketing, Kiante, George, Ace, Bailey, and Walker Kester Kester out for this season, but she'll be coming back next year.
Starting point is 00:36:30 The move commenced to the full rebuild for the Grizzlies around his young core of Zach Eadie and Cedric Howard. Memphis now has 13 first round picks in the next seven years tied with the Nets and Thunder for the most in the league, securing seven of those first rounders and trades involving Desmond Bang and Jaron Jackson Jr. So in addition to us,
Starting point is 00:36:48 2023 defensive player of the year, JJJJ is a two-time all-star and three-time all-defensive selection. Grizzies also created a $28.8 million trade exception in this deal, which is the largest ever in the NBA. Gil, what is your reaction to the Grizzlies trading
Starting point is 00:37:04 Jared Jackson Jr. to the jazz. I think someone came in. I think someone came in. The black SUVs. I think someone who cares about Memphis trading in JJ, Sacramento. You know, a very big trade.
Starting point is 00:37:22 He says Sacramento. I'm sorry. It's the same shit, right? The other city no one cares about. They're about the clean house. I think the only thing about Memphis that we care about is if Jaws going to get traded.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Oh, that's nice. Right? That's really what the whole year's been about. Where's Jock going to go if he's got a house in Miami? He got this. He got that. This whole time nobody talked about JJJ, even though he was playing. Right? I mean, I'm pretty sure they was happy he didn't win that award last year for him to get max. This was a tradable contract. 19 and 5 as a big is just not it's just not it as your second option that's just not it that's what he adds yeah five rebounds yeah I do that that's like five like yes five I didn't he deep as a he's a player he adds in five rebounds how many blocks he closer to I don't know like because you know rebound is part of
Starting point is 00:38:28 deep yeah it's kind of weird that he won because yeah Yeah, because... Six rebounds round up, 1.5. Oh, you want to round up? Okay. Okay. Okay. I'll give it six.
Starting point is 00:38:38 Please. Okay, I'll give it six. We shall love it, you. Cool, 19 and six. 19 and six. There's a big difference. You know what I mean? He's still a good big, though.
Starting point is 00:38:46 He's still a good big. He could have used... Know what I'm saying? As a number two option? He's trying to win in this league? He just... If I can get rid of it, I got to get rid of it, I got to get rid of it and just move off. You're not saying he's not a good player.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Just as their number two. him in law marketing together. Shit, I mean, that is, I don't know. Like you paid them together. Yeah, 19 and 10.
Starting point is 00:39:11 I'm not, you know what's the funny. You know what we take into the, you know the funny thing about the Utah thing? If you keep it the way it is with the young pick, with the guard, you got something.
Starting point is 00:39:28 But it's Utah. And I don't think that team is going to stay. Okay. Why not? Right? It reminds me. of the Wizards when they had Rashid Wallace, Ben Wallace,
Starting point is 00:39:39 and Joanne Howard all on the same team. And then everybody just and Chris Weber. All right. They got the same, they had those four in the same team. They did.
Starting point is 00:39:51 And then all overnight. And it just seems like they're probably going to trade these players. I don't think Walker Castle are coming back. And trying to get AJ for the drag. A piece of move. Obviously, highly covered it.
Starting point is 00:40:04 out this season but you know things any on last year's deal my team is better Utah or the Wizards for the Wizards because they're they're gonna keep their pieces I don't I don't believe Utah's gonna keep their pieces something just tells me this is just a pit stop and then these pieces is moving but sometimes they gotta do at some point they got to do something with their pieces I think it's a good move I think Jaron Jackson going to Utah's excellent you got a fine offer for what they got I think I think coming up.
Starting point is 00:40:36 He'll be restricted. Marketing, Kessler, well, let's not even say Kessels, just say, Philopowski, Jaron at the Fives. You got Aze Bailey, 610,
Starting point is 00:40:49 6-9, Kiante 6-4. They got, and then they got picks with that? Mm-hmm. I mean, you're talking about Utah. Or the number two pick. I spoke to one of the Utah reps,
Starting point is 00:41:04 in the news outlets a few days ago talking about Utah going back to the Jerry Sloan days with certain talent and then I think the next accusation is going to be probably Austin Reeves
Starting point is 00:41:16 I think they'll make some moves for Austin and then bring him down there and they'll have a whole new culture where they can actually go and fight for their fight for position
Starting point is 00:41:27 and look good So is he a two guard? Yeah, what are you feeling that? So damn the boy that's George, can I take that one. He's the point guard. No, he's not the point guard.
Starting point is 00:41:36 He's not the point guard. Who's the point guard? Azeel call you? He'd come off the bench. But he's... Yontez-J. The starting point guard for the U.S. What about the U.J.?
Starting point is 00:41:47 A.J. A.J. Banson? What about it? Where does he fit in that? He's not going to Utah. He's going somewhere else. They come to... I don't know. Memphis looked like they're saying, I got a pay.
Starting point is 00:42:05 I got a plan. Yeah. It might be a Memphis plan. Might be a Memphis plan. That's south of this. I got 13 peaks. I'm trying to be like, okay. You got marketing average 27 and 7 this year.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Can't say George Everton is 8. 8. We got 8. 7 assists. I got 13 picks. 24, 7 assists this season. 24 and 7? That boy's balling.
Starting point is 00:42:27 It's a point guard. The point guard for the Utah Jazz. He's a 2. There's a 2. There ain't really no more position. Just say he's scoring guard. You wouldn't like a ring ball up. Yeah, just bring the ball up.
Starting point is 00:42:39 There ain't no more point. Bring it up. Ebony and I agree together in perfect harmony. I thought my kid from USC play, I said. There's no other shots out there. Nobody else. I'm going to watch two dogs out there. They're not passing the ball and making nobody.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Get to it. Get it off the class. There somebody said, Gil just said, what's the point of devaluation of to make moves? Your city changing your location to a whole other location. location versus trading and devaluing a player. I just got 13 picks, man. What are these teams doing?
Starting point is 00:43:19 They can either pick some good shit or pick a bunch of roleplay or they were having used all the picks. Yeah. But they're trying to be like, okay, see, I feel like, but they ain't got that corner piece. They get that. They do. They do.
Starting point is 00:43:33 What you mean? They got a cornerstone piece. They just got to do. Yeah, they do. They do. motherfucker seven foot who who name jack jack eddy is that he still play over there he's not big fella he cornerstone he's still a team but like but think about 13 picks that can help you trade jai if people don't really
Starting point is 00:43:57 like won't no trust jai like throwing some of no picks are they gonna have to you got to i'm still stuck on so that's what I'm just stuck on so you don't think like like AJ And AJ going to the Utah Jazz? Why? That would hurt. And none of these little young dudes going where they want to go. See, Ace Bailey ended up down there.
Starting point is 00:44:19 What happened to him? Yeah, but he was talking about but he came about and said where he wanted to go. So they was like... They said, no. You're going to go down here. Yeah, but I know, but he started talking. You're going to go where we want to...
Starting point is 00:44:32 You're going to La Quint Dick. He's going to go to La Quentin. Not a number one pick, though. I'm going to pick nowhere he's going. So if Utah Jazz gets the number one pick, who they're picking? Darren Peterson. So if Utah Jazz gets the number two pick, who they're picking? Darren Peterson.
Starting point is 00:44:51 A boozer? Hey, that's... You don't need no beard anymore. That sounds, but just like Elijah to Wizards... Hey, if they got a move... Who do they have at the 4 and the 5 already? There's a 4 in the 5. Wait, they're not going to...
Starting point is 00:45:04 All right. So that means they're going to need... If they keep its team the way it is, Utah... needs a what? A what? They don't need a two, three? A two three. They got Ace Bailey is the three. At the two? You gonna bring all. So if I have the guard at the
Starting point is 00:45:24 guard at the point, Ace Bailey at the two, bands at the three, marketing at the four and, or the four or five that don't look like a, that don't look like a just a great ass team that starts off and they can be cool. You're talking out picking no big. They're not picking the, I like, they're not picking the, I like that you said that. light skin. It's Utah. They ain't picking no big black AJ Dancers. He already
Starting point is 00:45:46 He already there in Utah. Swaggy, he's been in Utah for a minute. If I say he's already He's already in Utah. I'd rather y'all do the research. He's one of the good ones, Swagg. I'd rather you. I like him. It's Utah. It's Utah.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Where's Maylee? Where's A.J. from? He's from East. Okay, now, I he already said who paid him to go to Utah but he wasn't going to Boston who paid him to go to Utah from Boston and then
Starting point is 00:46:14 who paid him to stay at BYU track the money you know where you going want to Brigham Young's cousins I don't who who I'm sorry you think you think
Starting point is 00:46:31 BYU came up with four million dollars I got money Gil Mormons are very fruitful Known to possess a lot of work And they're going to pay a black There are black Mormon One of the James is going to
Starting point is 00:46:45 Him out of everybody that came through Not just what they're doing all they like Not this color This color is this They're just going to pay Four million the highest In college Basketball
Starting point is 00:46:58 In college basketball The highest by far What? Where do you think that dollar came from? It's the same one who paid them to go to high school there. What color was Kuntah? That's the same thing. They don't get the light skin, man.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Booza. Get there, that's better. It looked better. Does it make more sense? It makes more sense. Why would it make sense? Tell me what it would. The boozer coming back in the arena.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Is another boos? Another booze with the sprayer? Man, they didn't think about that. You think about paying a Kiante? You think if I pay the kid about $5 million to come to the state? They got that money back. You think I'm going to let him leave? They got that money back.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Tax right off. You think I'm going to let him leave? That means I see. They got that money. That means everything he's, what I've seen over there, and I shipped him here to hide them, then made him go here.
Starting point is 00:47:57 They got the winner last time. Remember, I said this last year. Where did I say AJ was going last year? I said, you're a job, right? When the last time, BYU was ranked, well, they got all that money back. Who's there? Who ever paid it? The school, whoever did it?
Starting point is 00:48:14 Yeah, you find out who paid them? Like, you ask around. Check your resource. Who's the biggest booster for BYU? If you know in the chat, I'm not familiar with the inner workings of B.A. Let me see. I'll Google it. I... Let me see.
Starting point is 00:48:35 I think it's a jago. I think it's a jago. The motherfucker who owns? A primary driver of BYU's modern athletic NIL. Who? My God. Ryan Smith. Who's that?
Starting point is 00:48:55 The owner of your Utah Jazz. Oh, so, oh, what? Really? So the owner of the Utah Jazz is the biggest, the biggest country business. He said follow the latter day thing They can't get them now You can put them on blast They can't get them out
Starting point is 00:49:14 You can't get them now Can't get them I get anybody I can get out of the games we got right now We got We got three too many How about that? But that's what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:49:25 So what they're going to do now If they're going to get age You got to get rid of JJ He's a three Hell man, all right The band is a three man He's a small forward. So you're going to have
Starting point is 00:49:42 A.J. Markman and JJ. At the 3, 4, 5? And a young boy that Ace. And Ace Bailey. So he's at the two. Now you're looking like, now you're looking damn like Houston Rockets. It's all long and athletic.
Starting point is 00:49:58 You said that about Dallas. Who said that about Dallas? That's what you all said. Ace Bailey. Oh, man. Do you like this jazz choir? Do you feel like the jazz position to themselves to be a playoff contest?
Starting point is 00:50:12 tender in Adam Silver's Western Congress in the near future? To be honest, it's hard to understand what a team is doing because we don't know what their goal is. Right? So right now, it looks like a promising team. But if they tank it, trade JJJ in these next couple days, today or tomorrow, and he gets to another destination and then marketing leaves, then they get who they are, then, you know, then it's not a promising name.
Starting point is 00:50:45 There was another destination that you had mentioned you would like to see Jerry Jackson Jr. And you still feel that way. You know what? I'm going to just be honest with you, man. Like, you keep bringing up, like... Solid memory. Like, I really got beef with Shams, man.
Starting point is 00:51:03 What is your beef with Shams, Sharonia? Like, I feel deeply as a fan that he got to report all the news. Mm-hmm. Like Jackson A's getting suspended for punching the mascot
Starting point is 00:51:18 One game? No, no, not that. Oh, no. Jackson hit suspended one game? No, I mean. Wizards mascot by the way. No, I mean. Yes way.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Like, he should let us know. He should at least let me know, like, who's leaving. So you want to, you want to call, you let you text you first. Yeah, and like. And then report his report. Yeah, I'd be like, like, you know, like, breaking, like, Because every time I see breaking news, I'm thinking the Lakers is, they're gone. And then it's just be these regular ass trades.
Starting point is 00:51:51 And I'm like, come on, man, that's not breaking news. Breaking news is like real shit. Yeah, y'all already. Like, oh, this person's gone. Y'all had y'all. Y'all had y'all already last. Y'all trade looks. Yeah, y'all had y'all moment.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Yeah, but we want more, Mr. B. Who's it? We want more. Did y'all have y'all? Not enough. The thrill is gone. We already. You guys don't tell you anything.
Starting point is 00:52:10 I might be against some news. Like, I'm just, it just. It just hurts. Because we know the team, like we see them. Yeah. And everybody else do too. I'm trying to like, man, we could have gave you more for JJJ. We could have gave.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Or, like, everybody that's moving, like, we got more. Lakers tax skills, you know. I think I got to move. So you should work for the, I got to move somebody on the Lakers. Like, you should work for the Lakers because you do the job at sell like. Oh, my God. I would sell the show. shit out of hey I got listen I got a daughter to connect connect for right if you like
Starting point is 00:52:46 play connect for I got one right here you know what I mean they hey listen then I just give you all of his numbers you him him gave in to all he gave his good look at these look at these guys look how hard they play put a little highlight tape together put it all good put it all with a bowl sound like you selling it to a 13 year old man anybody gonna buy that shit yeah what type of highlight gonna buy that shit yeah nobody buying the white boy running oh you thought the owner you thought the gentleman that was actually that No, someone would have a 13-year-old. I'm going to be a president of Kinko.
Starting point is 00:53:20 They just crunching the... They're just crushing their... They're not looking at the... They're not looking at the game. This guy's going over there, this matches. This man's just like fucking Tetris. Look, the last fight... The last fight, he did this.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Robo Lika up there and making the move, he can't make the move. I thought we had Lucas. That's what we needed. Huh? Why didn't he needed more pieces? I'm not a look at the Can he not make the move?
Starting point is 00:53:44 That was gift That was gifted That was handed Hey Hey I got this player you want You just You just made the right decision By saying
Starting point is 00:53:52 Yes I got arguably the best player This generation available Y'all want to Thank you There's a low king I call witness Sure
Starting point is 00:53:59 You know what Let me make a phone call Hey do you think that you would want Luca Donchich Uh I think of that team on paper, though. How much does he wait?
Starting point is 00:54:09 I think if I did some paper, though. Two thousand pounds. Two thousand pounds sold. How much is he right now? They could have said it was two thousand pounds and Rob Pliegel would have been like, we'll take him. We'll take him.
Starting point is 00:54:21 We'll take him. You're going to take him and leave it. Leave it where it's out. That's what I'm trying to hear from y'all right now. You're not good with what you're at now. Six ain't good enough? Right. No. Six ain't good enough. Now you need to go shopping for some old shit.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Because Luca ain't enough. Well, God damn. I was there. Y'all niggas get your shit together. Shit. What you said? What you said? We have, take Nico off with this protection. He should be free.
Starting point is 00:54:50 What has Rob actually done? Like, I'm like, you got Luca. No, no, no, what I'm saying is what has he he done? Other than that. No, no, no, no, no, no. That was gifted. That was gifted. So I'm trying to figure.
Starting point is 00:55:04 So, he. he wasn't working when Braun got there. He signed what's the name? No, no, no. Do you guys sign the first death of free agency? Jake LaRovia. Jake Narva? No, no.
Starting point is 00:55:15 He signed Jake. But as I'm saying, I'm trying to figure out what has Robb actually done. White boy Timmy. He didn't care. Draft your Brown? No, no, no, no. See, Braun came there. Right?
Starting point is 00:55:26 And then the AD trade. Magic Johnson. Magic was the part of it. Set that trade up, which had Coosma going. Okay. And then they got rewrapped and they tricked them. And we gave up, uh, fuck this, how quick. Yeah, and we gave a B.I.
Starting point is 00:55:43 So we had, so Magic had the Kuzma going there. Okay. And we keep B.I. And then when it got rewrapped, they put, they wanted B.I. And the B.I went over there and became all. So that's how we got AD. Right? So I'm trying to figure out.
Starting point is 00:55:56 So Magic proposed that and you just finish it off. And then we end up winning a championship and then the team got dismantled. He didn't bring back our bigs and then and then the Luca trade they called you to and you said yes I'm trying to figure out Oh, you got Luca though didn't he bring Westlerrestbrook? Who? Yeah, yeah. He said how they did the Carmelo Antony thing too? See how they turned out.
Starting point is 00:56:25 All of that. He's giving them everything they want. Harvaham, he hired him. Fired him. Hired him, fired him. So under him, they got to the Western Conference Final Final Final. Yeah. Who?
Starting point is 00:56:36 Under who? Rob. Under D'Overn. Under Rob. Yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no. Is it under Rob? They made it.
Starting point is 00:56:43 We won a championship under Rob. Legium. Was he? He was a, he was a, he was a gym. We made a championship. He got a Mickey Mouse and he got a. The hardest ringing in the NBA. He's, for his perspective at the dinner table, I've done a lot for this
Starting point is 00:56:59 motherfucker team. That's the funny part of his. You're hiding under someone else's work. Just like everybody else, Steve Kerr's, Air Expostrum. All the motherfuckers is, I know, nothing else to people work. For sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:11 But we're going to say that. We can name a lot of people. We can name a lot of people. What is Curry doing? Currie's daughter? I see you, nigg. Shit, JJ, redneck, what the fuck? What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:57:25 Some of my niggas hiding. Come on, Shams. Just call me, dog. All right. So one last. No, no, no. No, because I just want to know. No.
Starting point is 00:57:33 No. I just want to know if I'm... Call this man. Like, if I'm stuck with this team, because if I'm stuck with this team... You are. You know what time of this deal? Don't get a lot of...
Starting point is 00:57:44 Like, I'm not going to... Like, I'm not going to invest my internet. You know what it is. But if I know we're about to get some shit down the pipeline... What? What? What is that lot? What is this shit look like for the Lakers?
Starting point is 00:57:57 They don't look like a goddamn mega team. Right. Like, damn, that's what we need to be weird. If you're like, y'all want a mega-super. Give me some shit that can make us say yes. Is this a mega city? I mean, that's what the Lakers are you still? But you got a mega guy in Luca.
Starting point is 00:58:11 You just got mega fans. But the Lakers want more. Not enough. That was a good. That was a good. More. We got a man's shoulder like Confu Panda and y'all are mad. More.
Starting point is 00:58:21 More records. More players. More players. We got A.N. We got, okay. So we're going to leave the three. Okay, then I'm going to name you the rest of the team. You tell us what we have. We got Aiton, Rui,
Starting point is 00:58:37 smart, Jake, Hayes, Smith, Vanderbilt, Vincent, Connect, Timmy. Man, Timmy just got here. He's playing. Pumpkin, Kepler, James, Thiro. Take James off there. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:58:53 That's our team. Name Oaksin on paper. I'm just saying that's our team. Name okay T team on paper. He said 2026 champion. Just James. Jay and then you're going to be. Hey, after the top three?
Starting point is 00:59:05 After the top three to see what the rest of the players do to help the game? No, not what they do. Just what it sounds like. Because the names you sound. The names you say sound crazy. Yeah, they sound crazy, right? So if you name the O KC guys, they're going to sound just as crazy. Who the fuck of them niggas?
Starting point is 00:59:26 What they do? Same way. I get what you saying. See it? I get what you saying. I get what you saying. They do sound the same. On paper, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:59:37 Man, mention we need one of them. You got one. What were we averaging? Yeah, what we're averaging 13 something like that? Like 11. Japanese 11. Yeah, Japan is a fine country. No, no, not just saying,
Starting point is 00:59:55 for many resources. They got the best, fast, and they're like, dollar queen, like that's all the people out of the game. It happens at the beginning of the game. 11. You've got a change. You got a change right on the
Starting point is 01:00:07 change right on the fuck you can give it. There's 14 at 11, but it's really like a 6-5 into the total of it. Very high quality, technologically savvy, Gil.
Starting point is 01:00:18 Before we move on from this J-J trade, one more little note. So Sacramento Kings broadcaster Jason Ross dropped an interesting nugget after the trade. So let's take a look. So he said with the Jeremy Jackson Jr. trade,
Starting point is 01:00:30 every single lottery pick from a very successful 2018 draft has been traded. includes Luca, Trey, SGA, Mikhail Bridges, Michael Porter, Jr., Aiden, Jackson, Jr. While the tweet is accurate, based off a technicality, Miles Bridges, was a part of a draft day trade for SGA in that draft. Mitchell Robinson, the 36 overall pick in the 2018 draft, now the only player from that draft class who was still on the team that drafted him. Wow. It's crazier Jackson, Jr., Michael Bridges, traded for a total of eight first-round picks.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Luca and Trey traded for a total of one first-round pick. Just want to drop that negative guy. No, you don't care. Just sharing. So what are y'all saying? So you're all saying everybody who made a decision and drafted in 2018 stupid? Well, they didn't know what they were doing? I'm not trying to figure it.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Is that what you said? I'm merely just reading an interesting note. Noted. Okay, do we note it. Let's keep this thing moving. So after reports dropped Monday that James Hardin was on the move, deal became official Tuesday with the Clippers trading the 11-time All-Star to the cast for Darius Garland and a second.
Starting point is 01:01:33 second round pick. After the deal was announced Hardin told ESPN's Ramona Shelburne that he did not request a trade and offered the following thoughts to her as well. He said, didn't want to feel like I was holding the Clippers up in their future. I wanted them to actually have a chance to rebuild and get some draft capital. In Cleveland, I see an opportunity to win in the East. They got a very good team, coaching staff, all of the above. So as much as I wanted to stay in LA and give it a go, I've never won one before. As a basketball mine, I think we're We have a bit better chance.
Starting point is 01:02:07 That is our one resident Cleveland, Cavaliers fan. Choking a cat over there. He's been doing that lately. He's been choking the cat over there. He's been over there. Choking that cat. Harder went on to say the following. Let me read part two.
Starting point is 01:02:23 He said at the end of the day, it is a business. I think both sides got what they wanted are in a great place and are very happy. I'm excited about Cleveland. I'm still trying to chase my first championship and do whatever. it takes to win. So Hardin's reached a playoff in each of his first 16 seasons in the league with that streak likely to continue with Cleveland this season. Caves have been active before the trade deadline,
Starting point is 01:02:43 sending DeAndre hundred of the Kings for Dennis Schrooter and Keon Ellis. And according to reports, Donovan Mitchell specifically asked the calves to go after Hardin. In a bit of irony, the calves were in town to play the Clippers two night. Again, what's your reaction to the Clippers trading James Hardin to the Caves for Darius gone? I mean, all the draw off the rip, I think he's going to get drug tested. Who? James. James.
Starting point is 01:03:05 No, no, because he said, I want to go to Cleveland? Yeah. A fine city. The harder than middle way. He's seen as an opportunity to win. Rock and roll, Hall of Fame. And he has a better chance of winning there. How many years you play in there?
Starting point is 01:03:19 How many years you played in the Cleveland? Four. Ten, ten, twelve. Nine. Nine. Nine. So that means we've been around hundreds of players, right? Have you ever heard one player
Starting point is 01:03:34 say I want to get traded to Cleveland or I'm happy to go to Cleveland Wayne Wade no no no they did not those three they did not say they want to go there hold on they said when they got there we're happy here you know happy here you know they never said where I want to go there god damn it let's not act like you but I'm just saying no no you're no you're no no no they didn't say no I did not say I want to go to Cleveland. They got traded there
Starting point is 01:04:08 and said, I got traded there. And then said, oh, yeah, we like that. No, no. They said, I want to go play basketball with LeBron James. Like, that's what going to Cleveland was then. No, but I'm saying, who said that though? They all did. They all did.
Starting point is 01:04:22 I think she was there. Because he was there. Because I remember, I remember. Richard Jefferson did. I remember Duane. I remember that when. For sure. When DeWain went there, Gabriot Union,
Starting point is 01:04:33 imposed what I do for the dick. I see I go to Cleveland. He was sad when he got to Cleveland. Y'all don't remember that? I said, I go to Cleveland for the dick. I go to Cleveland for the dick. With Duane, Wade, what's there? So you're much better for you guys here on this campus?
Starting point is 01:04:50 So you're talking about a bunch of older players chasing the championship. Yes, but I also feel like in this situation, yes, if I'm hard and I do want to go to Cleveland. They have a better chance to win it right now. The East is down. You're playing with a guy like Donovan Mitchell. They got a chance to win it all. Did he?
Starting point is 01:05:09 He has a better, yes, he has a better chance to win it this year. No, no, no, I get that. In Cleveland. Yeah, they do. With Dennis Soder? No, no, I get that. But he publicly said it. So right now you think they can beat the Knicks and Detroit's where else is?
Starting point is 01:05:23 Yes, yes, yes. That's all Donovan. James Harder. James Harding is going to move. James Hardin is going to be the reason why Jonathan Mitchell is the number one option on the championship team. But you keep saying that, and I appreciate it. I'm telling you.
Starting point is 01:05:36 He got the help he needed. He can't do it by himself. But he's still the number one option. First of all, go look at the scoring on it. Before James got there, Donovan Mitchell's, what, at 28? Without, without, when Derrick's Garden there, the next highest score of player is 18. James coming there is 25. But you got 28.
Starting point is 01:05:54 He got to average 25 winning. But who was the 18? Who was the 18? Mobley. Okay. So Moby's at 18, but I'm saying James coming there. Okay, James, give me 23 and 10. That's still more than...
Starting point is 01:06:08 I'm still going to happen. I don't know how. Does it? I think it helps, I think it helps Donovan Mitchell out a whole lot. I don't take all out of his hand. That's my thing, man. He's a facilitator. He's a facilitator.
Starting point is 01:06:19 He's a same thing. He's a facilitator. Donovan Mitchell don't need you to facilitate for him. And I said that too. James is a facilitator to take that. Donovan Mitchell don't need you to facilitate for him. He's not going to work. He's not a couple of down.
Starting point is 01:06:31 He's kind of a guy. And it's James Hart and finding him to get him the assistance. Yes, yes. Yes, the last five minutes. All those James assists are going to the other guys, not Donovan. That's the perfect. To pass him the ball. Just give me the ball.
Starting point is 01:06:45 Same thing with Kauai. Just give me the ball. Just give me the ball. Did that work? Did that work? No different than NB. Just give me the, you do you? Did that work?
Starting point is 01:06:55 Yes. I thought it would have been better with that because they'd play different positions. Yes. But Maxie was there Young guys, all of them count him But remember, they played the same position And they were still trying to figure out How to regulate that
Starting point is 01:07:09 And we considered what? Donald Mitchell, a little point guard He's kind of like that ain't work Westbrook Yeah, that's right Chris Paul He always played another guard Besides kind of like Chris Paul
Starting point is 01:07:20 But at the end of the day Oh, that's a good guy Remember, Russell average a triple double over there That was scary, bro. They almost beat them. Like Russell average a triple double over there.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Kauai's been bought like this. Chris Paul to the Raptors. Yeah. His Paul went to the Raptors? But I'm just saying, how does the Pops is that? He keeps in. I'm going to have.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Bonus to the Raptors, too. I think he just wants to end his career the right way. So I, I think it works. Congratulations, CP3. He didn't know. He's not staying at Toronto. You're not staying in Toronto.
Starting point is 01:07:53 I think it works out. There's too many trades. I need to chill the fuck out. Make a breather. This is what we've been a hazard for. No. No. No.
Starting point is 01:08:01 No, we haven't. I have. I've been asking for this. We did say you want to be a lot. We didn't have chances to trade. We had chances to trade. But I told me to be it. I said they always wait all the way to the end.
Starting point is 01:08:13 Then they go to put this stuff like that. And they just try to make moves. They've been working on. A lot of good moves been made. Tomorrow's deadline they got to today. A lot of good moves been made. But back to what we were saying with Toronto. So Clippers, Brooklyn at Toronto Raptors,
Starting point is 01:08:28 greet on a multi-team trade. sending Chris Paul to the Raptors and O-Try I know nobody he don't matter a 2032 Raptor second runner and catch of the Nets that's the trait that is the same thing
Starting point is 01:08:39 all right like that they could have saved that just wipe that just right it nobody no it could have been where's the chores are right
Starting point is 01:08:47 the fans care we get it get us round up something happened what else something else something else happened then you see Chris Paul oh Chris Paul
Starting point is 01:08:55 we're talking about in real time what about the Jameson yeah it's a part of I just listen The Clippers not without Chris Paul and James Hart. It's time to win, right? I just look at guys that play the same position, man, when it's like that.
Starting point is 01:09:08 I think complementary pieces work, big, small, guard, wing. Your one, two, I just can't see it. But Donovan is a better, just give me the ball, I want to score. So putting him in that position, and then James Hardin is, James Hardin is passing everybody else. And if Donovan actually gets in trouble, you have a guy who can put up 30 and 40. Like, he can literally take over a game and then he does this that will help Donovan. He can foul bait, right?
Starting point is 01:09:42 He can foul bait, which means you can't hit Donov as much as you want. That's always important. Someone who can take relief off of you being hit. All those, yes. They kept Gary Jack because they kept both their bigs. He can hide on the defense too. I hear you, yes. He can hide on defense with some big motherfuckling down there.
Starting point is 01:10:04 Hide, no, he's got to one or the two now. He cannot hide, so I don't care what you say. He got to. He got him. He can hide. Who, James? Yeah. He's been hiding.
Starting point is 01:10:16 He been hiding. I dig it. I hear what you're saying. He's been hiding. In the playoffs, half-court game, that's James shit right there. Yeah, I just. Is it? Both of them? Is it?
Starting point is 01:10:29 You got a left and a right on two sides. Who thinks it's fine right now? Who thinks it'll work? Who thinks it won't one word? You said Cleveland. Who's rolling with the hard. Donovan Mitchell back court? Who is rolling?
Starting point is 01:10:39 Go up here. Who's going to get rid of finals or James going to go down? Who's going to three now? You guys? The Tyson kid? Tyson kid. He a rookie. Jaylon Tyson.
Starting point is 01:10:48 Tyson. Second year. I am not rolling yet. It's Donovan Mitchell City. Mobile average 19, Jard Allen. And that's in the post. That's in the post. Yeah, you're making 19.
Starting point is 01:10:59 You know, that's a difference. Jerry Allen just had 40. I was like, how you let him, he said, I don't know how he did. He was no threes. He averaging 14 and 8. And had 40. Who? Jared out.
Starting point is 01:11:10 14 and 8. Oh, no. No, no. Okay. Really? So you're talking about the one, three. The one, two, the four and the five are putting up numbers. Not a number.
Starting point is 01:11:21 Yes. Yes. Yeah. The big iceon is averaging 14 and five. So they got 14 and five. At the three. That's why they got rid of hunter. Their whole team.
Starting point is 01:11:30 That's why they got rid of hunter. Put the ball in the basket. You got 28 from Allen. Roters averaging 13 and 5. This role going to change. I'm out of the ban. I'm going to have to order. He was every 13 in Sacramento.
Starting point is 01:11:40 It was rolling. No boy. Hey, I ain't even going to buy. No go to me, George. Hey, them hard, them harder, the hard and cab colors are going to rock. We got two Adida boys over there. Like yo. Like yo.
Starting point is 01:11:51 Like yova. It's Adidas time. Adidas time in Cleveland. It's going to go to do it too way. We got two ways. We got two. But it's going to go two ways to James, though. He'd make it to the finals.
Starting point is 01:12:02 They go down 02, and then y'all, he disappeared, and y'all start talking shit about it. No, no, no, no. That's what Jonathan Mitchell is going to, because he can win three games by themselves. Yeah, Donovan Mitchell. He tried it last year. That's what I'm saying. He's trying to ask you. It's going to be how to know who y'all playing the first round.
Starting point is 01:12:19 So what's five got in the sixth year? They got to take the way. So, what? He got to last year. What? To Indiana. He tried to carry it on itself. Yep.
Starting point is 01:12:28 He tried it. He tried it. Where was the rest of the team? Gone. You said he could win two games by the- How many games did they win? Two. Was it?
Starting point is 01:12:36 By himself. What was that? Was it the Indiana game? It was 4-1. 4-1, I thought. A 4-0. What was y'all gave me, Shill, you should know. I don't remember.
Starting point is 01:12:45 It was 4-0. I think it was 4-1, 4-0, right? Something. Something nasty. I don't know if they got something. Remember, they was leading the whole league. And then they came back at all the last minute of some shit. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:12:57 They had a great record all year long, and then all of a sudden they lose it. Mm-hmm. Yeah, we're remembering. But what's up with these old niggas saying they just want to go anywhere, and they still get that respect. Yeah? Like, if I was bummed, I would say, man, shut your ass up and sit down. All right.
Starting point is 01:13:15 36 telling me I want to leave and shit. And we just went 17 and 3. You're messing on my team now. 17 and 5 since that's 6 and 21 starts. You're 17. You're still 15. Clippers were 17 and 5 since that's 21. You still didn't want to be here.
Starting point is 01:13:29 And you saying, what was you saying about that? James fucked it up. James fucked it up as far as wanting to want out. But he, did you hear his comment saying, I would want the team to benefit in the long run? Meaning, y'all don't want to win because y'all want a drive pick. And what we're doing here is we winning and y'all are getting out of that. But why don't the clippers want to win, yeah?
Starting point is 01:13:55 Because they started off so bad. So like I said last year with the Cooper Flag thing, you don't want to be at this point in time and then decide to win. I've been in the lottery for three months. I've been a lottery for three months. I don't want to now jump out of the lottery to then get a 15th to 20th pick.
Starting point is 01:14:15 Is Garland coming back? No, I told her. Is he? He's out indefinitely, right? He'll be back at some point. I'll be back. So let's just say they keep this shit up with the clippers, get him back.
Starting point is 01:14:28 No, no, no, I just told you what happened. I have a guy James Harden averaging what he's averaging, right? I can't keep it up. I trade him for a guy who's not playing and who's going to be out. I mean, I just lost Dave Hardin. Yeah. Where's my team at? What is my team going to do then?
Starting point is 01:14:45 Because the person that he got traded for is not going to be playing. What does that mean for Kawai's going to be losing? Kawai's going to probably get suspended. Yeah. Stop. I don't know. They put him on the All-Star game for that. That could be the cover then.
Starting point is 01:14:58 If they're going to suspend them, give them. I don't know. Whatever they found, something's going to happen after all. They're going to talk to them after all song, right? Whatever that is, it's going to lead to the clippers doing what the clippers do, and they're going to go. They ain't got to suspend him. As a reminder, the Thunder owned the Clippers pick in this draft.
Starting point is 01:15:15 So y'all might want to win some games. There's no benefit to the clippers to tank right now. This actually looks kind of nasty if you think about it. They got rid of norm, man. They got rid of people. They just got rid of James. They about to look real crazy with Kauai. Who's left?
Starting point is 01:15:36 They don't get their pigs back. Clipscomb, clip. Who's left over there outside of Zubak? Don't call them. They don't get their pigs back. Burn it down. There's nothing else over there left to move. Boggy, boggy. There's nothing else out there.
Starting point is 01:15:51 Do you have to get rid of Kauai to make some kind of move for the future? Zubak is a good trade piece, I think. We'll get lamella. We'll get lamella ball. Y'all keep thinking people want to trade to get better. So you're talking about a good trade, but I can trade them for anything. That's what I'm saying. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:16:11 Everybody can't get traded just for anything. But Lubbock is a good trade. To give up. What's you gonna get back for it? Whatever. Like JJJ, whatever. There's some picks or some shit. Who has the next most picks besides OKC?
Starting point is 01:16:31 OKC, Brooklyn, and Memphis, I think all have, I believe, 13 first rounders in the next. Wow. The Oakland should do 13 first round. Jaylon Williams and. But OKC may now drop down with that Durham McCain trade, right? I think they trade it. Can Brooklyn get you? That's woe.
Starting point is 01:16:48 Is that too much? That's not at all. That's nice. But OKC back-to-back with Kauai. Can you ask you all to something? No, Jail and Williams. I just want to ask you. Give me some picks him?
Starting point is 01:16:57 Give you some picks in there. I just want to ask you a question. Give me some picks in there. Let me get my picks back. Oh, you're going to get the picks back. Let me get my show. Let me get my shape. Let me get them back.
Starting point is 01:17:06 Take them back. Come on. Let's do it. Don't, don't. I just want to present something. You have Kauai. Mm-hmm. That you do.
Starting point is 01:17:23 Would you be opposed to trading him to O KC with Shea, Jaylen Williams and three picks if you're okay C would you take that Shade Jailan Williams No Jalen Williams Jailin Williams and three picks
Starting point is 01:17:43 and whatever you want to get rid of For Kauai right now They give up all that for Kauai right You just said two picks I just said no you don't have to give a three You giving up Jalen Williams girl For Kauai Linnah right there
Starting point is 01:17:56 For Kauai Litter To go back to back to back Yeah average and 28 and play defense. You're giving up 24 you on Jaylon Williams for. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I remember, they have to give up they have to get these little niggas up anyway.
Starting point is 01:18:09 No. What's the name? So if I'm just out, I need to guarantee and then we'll figure it out again. And it helps OKC to pay big boy check. Give him all that money, because then Kauai comes off when? What year? I think it might be. He just got into that.
Starting point is 01:18:24 No, he had come off like next year to year after that. And they have all that money left to go get somebody else. Yeah, Kuwait currently under contract. Give me one second. Motivated Kauai right? Yeah, he's one more season. So instead of that all that money hitting in you,
Starting point is 01:18:37 I'm trying to go get it. I'm trying to get it back to back. What's the ceiling ceiling with SGA over there? Finals, two-time finals MVP. What's his ceiling? What's his ceiling? What's his ceiling over there? Go to the clippers and find your own ceiling, my nigga.
Starting point is 01:18:50 You just said, James and Donovan don't work. Huh? Kauai and Shaylers. I mean, L.A. Whatever? I'm the Wattah S. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:00 Miami ship Kalil where does it? Yeah, Kaua Sait works. Go ahead and ship him out there. Make some moods. These niggas don't know what they're doing, man. They don't know how to make no trade. What they're doing about this shit?
Starting point is 01:19:10 Fucking lazy trade. Fucking around. All this talent out here just sitting around on the bench and shit. Talent where? Everywhere. Fucking Cam Whitmore sitting around. The motherfuckers that can play just sitting around. Where they're going to hoop?
Starting point is 01:19:23 I just want to ask Dunleaf it is. So you're saying everybody, everybody that's been traded. You ain't got... Everybody's been trade has value, but the guy... At 20. Come in good? Insane. I'm saying, I'm like, that needs to be a demand.
Starting point is 01:19:38 I'm trying to figure out who was the man for some of these other guys that got traded. I forgot about him. Yeah. The people who wanted out before the tree deadline started are still input. No, he's talking about it. Trey. 80, you got a different type of law. Hey, that was out.
Starting point is 01:19:58 That was acting. You just got Josh sitting there. That's classic. I'm talking about before the trade deadline started, the names Jop. Yeah. Kaminga. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:13 Janice was also in the mix. Janice. And it was just them three. But AD was also in the middle. No, he wasn't. Yeah, they were talking about AD going before. Trade got traded before. But it was them three that was,
Starting point is 01:20:25 it was where are they going? They're getting traded. they haven't moved everybody else. Then you had while trade deal I was going, you had two people demand that one out. Zach Levine, I think, was one of them. A lot of people who are negative trade value according to the squares.
Starting point is 01:20:41 Brooklyn got a deal. Has Portland traded anybody? That's my thing, these dudes know how to play basketball, man. They just been fucked up situations. I think you put some of these dudes on better teams, better situation, man. They thrive.
Starting point is 01:20:52 A hundred percent. What did you think Michael Porter is in? It's big job? Yeah, like you got to put some of these. these dudes, man, that's been around that know how to play, Zach Levine, DeMarie, DeRose, and like these dudes that know how to play, that's proven they know how to play, put them in a better situation with better pieces around them.
Starting point is 01:21:07 With their demand that's not so high, they can go out and average they're 21 and 22 and you put the other pieces around, they'd be effective, man, but there's no trade value for these dudes. I think it's cap. Some Milwaukee shit. Yeah, like some of these teams can use some of these dudes that's been around like Boston just did.
Starting point is 01:21:24 So. What's funny is, what? What what? Shit, what Bucks and E is, is DeMarr? Yeah, for sure. He's like a Milton. Yeah, you know, mid-ranked half-core guy. He's like Middleton one-on-one.
Starting point is 01:21:39 That's the guy you need that keeps everything. Orlando need a Zach Levine type, though. They need somebody go get their own bucket. Yep, they need a Zach Vene type. But who do you say Kobe White went to? The Hornet. The Hornet. For Colin Sexton.
Starting point is 01:21:53 What? Straight up? Kobe White, Mike Conley. Mike Wolley. Timberwolves? Yes, that's another trail we got to get into. No, we don't.
Starting point is 01:22:01 No, we don't. No, we don't. No, we don't. Davey. We haven't heard her to the pissing. Davey. Don't. Dang.
Starting point is 01:22:06 Dang. Don't leave. Hold on. What's the details of that? The Jay Nivey. Thank you. Somebody cares. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:15 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He upset because these Lakers ain't doing nothing. Y'all got it forgiven. Like, his Lakers, hey, listen,
Starting point is 01:22:23 he's going through it emotional right now. He's got that. Yeah. for no reason. He's like, man. Tray and worked so hard. Listen. You made me cut this shit for a cousin.
Starting point is 01:22:33 It's like, yo, so this is in the terms of being sexually frustrated, right? Damn. It's like, you're frustrated. You got, you ain't getting none. Listen, yeah, she walked. Mary life. Yeah, she walking around in lingerie and shit. That's the league.
Starting point is 01:22:47 Everybody's making trades around you. Everybody looking good. She walking around in lingerie and shit. What's you looking at? Yeah. Be frustrated. Yeah. You better put that motherfucker away.
Starting point is 01:22:58 And you take your ass upstairs that game room, man. He didn't take that motherfucking Role Sparks thought it was in the park. Walking around a case. Yeah. Motherfucking hard to freeze. Fucking hard and freezing me in this fuck. Yeah. We didn't see no ass in a minute.
Starting point is 01:23:14 We ain't see no ass. We ain't said none of that. No jumping on the bed. Nothing. No jumping on the bed. No nothing. Ain't nothing. Ah.
Starting point is 01:23:21 Ain't no, there. There is no. There is no. They didn't have been in the vault. They didn't. Today, Spark. You didn't buy your nails. Wait,
Starting point is 01:23:28 there's been hard and there's nothing harder than freezing meat. Damn. That's a lot. Ain't nothing harder than go to your house, take out some ground beef or steak or something. You got to tell that bitch out.
Starting point is 01:23:43 That motherfucker. Hey. That bitch is a webbed. Art grader. This is some art grading. This is some art grading going. He just frustrated team ain't doing. So any other trades that we mentioned, he's going to be upset.
Starting point is 01:23:58 So y'all got a forgiving. Chats, y'all got a forgiving. We have nearly 28,000 people in the chat right now. We're back. We are back. We are back. They want to know what's going on and tell us about the trade. They want to hear about the trade going down before the trade deadline.
Starting point is 01:24:21 Come on, man. Let me get on. Come on, Jack. Because it's Charlotte, right? Charlotte. So we're going to get to that. It's this complex bulls are making a lot of moves. So, uh, bulls.
Starting point is 01:24:30 Oh, you're punched the wizard's mascot. Jackson Hayes. Jackson Hayes. That's a conversation. That's the first thing. That is the biggest news coming out of Lakers. Yeah, that is the big. You know it's saying that that's the biggest news coming out of the.
Starting point is 01:24:43 Fucking Jackson Hay. You know, getting a device situation. He didn't even drop the d'nig. He didn't even drop the nigga, man. That's a real punch. That was a real punch. It's like a bunch of mascots. What the mascot do, dark?
Starting point is 01:24:54 What you mean? He was at the crib one night. I remember you. I remember you, Nick. And the game won the close knee, though. It don't matter, care, whatever the mascot won't. Yeah, you hold that resentment. I know you, nigga, underneath that mask.
Starting point is 01:25:09 I've seen you before. So Bulls involved in a few trades before this deadline. Let's talk about the first one. Bulls, wolves, and pistons involved in a three-team deal Tuesday. That has since been updated. So we'll break it all down to you. Mike Conleek, J. and Ivy going to the Bulls.
Starting point is 01:25:23 So Mike Connolly since been traded to the Hornets with Kobe White for Colin Sexton, Usmane Dying, and three second round picks. Let's look at the Pistons side. Pissons receiving Kevin Herder, Dario Sarag, who had just joined the Bulls, and a 2026 first round swap from the Wolves, which is protected for picks 1 through 19. Wolves did not receive a player in the deal, but got Conley off their books to move them under the first apron, dropping their luxury tax bill from $24 million to a little under $4 million. The move also puts the wolves in position to try to make a trade for Janus before the deadlines.
Starting point is 01:25:55 So there's a lot of talk about that heating up. Wolves basically trying to get this deal done with the bucks before the off season. Very thirsty, very motivated to get it done. Let's talk about the Kevin Hurtr's side of the Pistons. Pistons are currently 28th and three-point attempts per game this season. Address that need by adding Hurtr, shooting 37% from three for his career, but just 31% this season. So we go around the couch. You already know you're a hater of all trades that don't involve the electric.
Starting point is 01:26:20 I don't know. So what's the reaction to the Pistons, Bulls and Wool's three-team trade, sending Herder to the Pistons, Jaden Ivy to the Bulls? I don't know nothing about basketball. Is Kevin Hurd or better shooter than Duncan Robinson? They're on the team together now. I know that. He knows that.
Starting point is 01:26:36 Exciting. How's that working for us? How's that working for us? Okay. Don't ask what you about to ask. No, no. I'll just think, like, bro. We're going to get them together.
Starting point is 01:26:52 But you're not going to play them together. But you're not going to play them together. So that's my thing. But you won't lose. But he got one or the other. Shit, we might as well put these out here. Like this. Like this.
Starting point is 01:27:04 Right here. All the motherfucklerple of playing defense out here. Just like this, stationary. You got dirt down, man. We got to say. Jayles is down there. So. They're Stewart.
Starting point is 01:27:12 Yeah. I just want to know. Yeah, they're shooting percentages is just because you got a bunch of tools, man. You got a bunch of guys that attack the basket. That's just what. it is. That's the way y'all have constructed your roster, which has been
Starting point is 01:27:23 successful for y'all. Don't don't go out and try to change what y'all be doing to win right now. I think he's trying to add it, though. I think he needed another shooter. I'm with it. Because the other ones wasn't as consistent. You know what I think there's need in that situation? They need a big that can stretch
Starting point is 01:27:39 the floor. They try to use dirty and dirty. Yeah, a little bit. He's middy. He ain't no pre-stress. I'm not talking about it. They need a big. Did they get Sarge? Dars. That's hard to find. Sarge is a stretch.
Starting point is 01:27:51 He's a stretch. I think this is going to hurt them for next year. Okay. Because the person they traded was Ivy. Was their second best player, right? Who came off injury. He's coming back into the motion.
Starting point is 01:28:03 So he hasn't turned it on. Right? And I think they used that to trade them to bring in a shooter. When last year or the last three years, he was averaging 18, shooting 40% from the year. Yeah, I got it. Who gets his own bucket?
Starting point is 01:28:17 Yeah. Right? He's coming back from injury is going to take him some time. So get rid of him now to bring in someone who just shoots the ball. I think them draft and Sasser. Sasser is definitely a big... I think them drafted.
Starting point is 01:28:30 Sasser made him expendable. Made Joe and Ivy expendable. He's not playing. He's not 18 right now. Not right now. No, not. I think they're looking at that. I think he only started with two games this year.
Starting point is 01:28:41 Yeah, but the skills set. The skill set is what I'm... Karris over there still. I like Ivy. I don't know. That is an iffy mood, though. It is. It is because he dabbed so can play.
Starting point is 01:28:53 Kobe White went to the Hornets. Somebody got to think of it. Somebody got to leave. But Kobe White, Mike Conley went to the Hornets. That's not like Sexton goes. Go ball out. Over to the Bulls. My Meadow got her.
Starting point is 01:29:05 Aver averaging 10 and Dunkin average in 12. They got to, they both. They both have them still average 10 and 12. One come off the bench. One come off the bench. One, they got a shooter coming off. Both shoot or whatever. whatever you want to move it.
Starting point is 01:29:18 I don't think this year they're looking at Ivy as that second-tier-level guy. I think they start looking at it. They're looking at dirty right now. They're going to need it. They're going to need it. But they haven't been all year. They haven't been looking at him as that. They've been number one on you.
Starting point is 01:29:33 In the playoffs, that's when you need it. Those two shooters, they're going to take the water on. They're going to have to be on. They're going to have to be on. Can you do that? No, no. We're depending on K to take ownership of doing more. We're going to demand more of him
Starting point is 01:29:48 And he's going to have to get them open shots That's it You can't have them You know, like I know what Gil's saying It's like make them put it on the floor Make them do us again But if you're going to do that That means you're giving up Cade on the drive
Starting point is 01:30:04 If you're not all the way in and helping Where he can't give me these wide open Duncan Robertson don't need nothing But the three is what beat people these days So if you give you taking that away Tobias Harris is still out there He's 15, 16 footer. Were they ranked in threes?
Starting point is 01:30:19 28th and 3. Damn. He's still, he still rearranging in, though he's not shooting threes like that. Tobias. 28? Huh? They ranked 28? And 3 points?
Starting point is 01:30:32 I think Jenkins is out there shooting that bitch a little bit. I don't know who's shooting it because they rank 28. Nobody's shooting. They got a bunch of guys at the basket. That's all? They got a bunch of guys. Duncan ain't been shooting that bitch well at all this year. I like that.
Starting point is 01:30:46 Because it's hard to get open if you can't. You don't know the one out there. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You don't know what I'm out there that can shoot him. Gerda helps him. He helps him. You have to put that ball in the player. You have to put that ball.
Starting point is 01:30:59 You need someone that when everything is locked down, they get the ball and they can do something. Yeah. Right? They can go off script to keep the defense balance. They'll have a series. That's why T. They have a game.
Starting point is 01:31:13 That's why guys like T. Jay, Pritchard, that's why they look so good in the playoffs because when you focus your defense on them and they're coming in sitting here, like, oh, y'all not go. Hey, I'll tell A.man to give me, I mean, Assar to give me some more. I'll go to Asar and tell them give me some more. Give me some more sauce. You're going to tell him to give me some more. Give me some more. Because he's out there not, he's not regulated to give you offense like Ivan.
Starting point is 01:31:41 He's not out there. That's not his role. They're not telling him, give me this. Who's they? Come over here and have more freedom. He got to create for. Go get it. Go get it now.
Starting point is 01:31:52 He's going to create openings. So line up, he got to create for it. They fall into the Luke like Donchitz and the Jay. Like they fall into that category with K. Right? You create for everybody and we'll live and die. And we'll live and die and go. But he still had Karrike and go to the fire.
Starting point is 01:32:10 You got Duncan Robinson said 40% for Grand Dish. Yeah, yeah. Hell, yeah. That's all right. But they ain't got nobody. Wait, he's saying what? He's shooting 32%. Say it again?
Starting point is 01:32:18 This year, so Duncan Roberts is shooting 40% from three. Hearder shooting 31%. Okay. That was 30%? 31%. What was, what was 40? 40? Oh, Duncan shoot 40?
Starting point is 01:32:29 The Robertson. Heard is a 37% career shooter. He's the only one holding that 28th. But it's amazing. But it's amazing. He'll be a change. He doesn't. He don't get enough look and he don't get enough
Starting point is 01:32:39 looks and he don't get enough touches doing the game. That's a thing. So he was six for nine, six for nine last game, five for ten, two games ago. He don't get enough looks consistently over, like he's not going to get on the shit. He's shooting that bitch, nine. Hey, he's shooting threes. Every time he's how many. How many?
Starting point is 01:32:56 How many? How many. How many? How many? Yeah. Okay. My bad. He didn't need to shoot them.
Starting point is 01:33:02 My bad. I take that thing. Go to eight. Win one game. Two for eight. He's getting that bitch up. My bad. Yeah, he's getting that.
Starting point is 01:33:07 My bad, Dr. Roberts. Shooting 40. Yeah. Still shooting 40. You shooting at me that night? Absolutely. Yeah. Hey, Kay's setting you up.
Starting point is 01:33:13 Kate doing his job. Hell, yeah. He can shoot him. Hell yeah. He can shoot that bitch. Heron can shoot me. That's true. Inside joke, ladies,
Starting point is 01:33:21 yeah, that's true. If you watch the show, you know what we're talking about. Shout out of Palmy. So Kobe White went to. Yeah, I'm about I think. So with the Hornet. Kobe went to Charlotte along with Mike Conley, who was just ready to the Bulls.
Starting point is 01:33:31 Two point guards. Conlon is ex and now goes to the Hornet. Connolly will probably be bought out. I think that's the conventional wisdom there. I like that move. And Lavello don't come off the floor, so. Got the Hornets shot. One of your dark horse teams in the Eastern Conference,
Starting point is 01:33:47 you said that the Hornets would have a better season than Milwaukee Bucks many moons ago back in 2025. They've been eight and two cents, I believe. At a very dominant January, I think six wins on the road by 15 or more. Third team, maybe should do that. We know. They're 11 right now.
Starting point is 01:34:04 They're still in 11th place. But they're trending in the right direction. All that shit is still in 11th place. Listen for what they do. Gil battling a case of the trade deadline it's Rob Polinka. The only team with the news record is outspornier. Two games back from seven. Two games back from seven.
Starting point is 01:34:21 What place they're in there, though? We don't spend 20 minutes talking about two teams and players. We don't even talk about ever. We don't even know. We're supporting everybody here at Gil's Arena. I don't even know. Hey, that was a very state of who-woo. The people they named in the trades we don't know.
Starting point is 01:34:39 They haven't heard of them. Kvon? I don't know her. Where did he come from? The basketball enthusiast He's bouncing around. He's bouncing around? I don't watch hoops.
Starting point is 01:34:50 I watch hoops. I don't watch hoops. An exciting one. Man, I love this shit. This is the best part about it. You know what I'm saying? All the hoop lovers out there, put tombstones in the chat that you're watching the hoops.
Starting point is 01:35:01 You know who these niggas is. Throw your tombstones in the chat also. Get that like that. All you do you might not be, you might not be liking this shit. You don't know what's going to. The niggas ain't getting... Y'all only... Y'all want to star players.
Starting point is 01:35:13 They ain't getting in the game. Yeah, they ain't getting in the game at all. Usually when there's... TIGO. When you talk about Trey Dan Line, I think we only think big names. That's what we like. When you think trades, you think big names. Important pieces, though.
Starting point is 01:35:29 It never is. There never is always some sides. Nobody care about it. Anthony Davis, James Hardner, are not big names, good? They're very bad. You know, 11-off. All-Star 10-0. Yeah, we talked about that.
Starting point is 01:35:40 You want to go back. Back to them? Yeah, we can do it every you want. We're gonna go by, that's the steak of the chicken and that right there. Right now we're talking about the napkins and shit. I got you. Place matches on that. Damn.
Starting point is 01:35:50 They're not good. They're not going to get garlic man. They're not even dressing. They're not even dressing. You don't need napkins. God, day. You better get some napkins and buy some napkins. I already got a drink.
Starting point is 01:36:05 You want to get me to coast or not. We just go like this thing here. You see what happened. You see what happened? Damn now. You stay in the wood. God, damn. Stayed in the wood.
Starting point is 01:36:14 Ain't about the napkins. Ain't these food. They did it. After dinner drink nothing. Like I'm begging times right now. Please, come on. We don't get no love. We're talking about.
Starting point is 01:36:27 We're desperate over here. You know, you're doing all this complaining about the trade deadline and no trades being made. We got some trades. These ain't trades. And you're still complaining. Like, they're just giving away shoes and shit. this point. One of the niggins. One team didn't even take shit back.
Starting point is 01:36:44 I don't know how we good. Minnesota. We go, we go, we go, we go. We're just trying to lower our breath. We don't know none of that shit. We got over there. We're good. We got, we got.
Starting point is 01:36:55 No, no, no, no, no. We go. No, no. No shit. That's what. We don't want none of this shit. We don't miss respect our phone. They're saying,
Starting point is 01:37:06 they're saying, you keep some niggas on the corner, right? We don't want none of that. Keep them to look. Nick, trade away. Everybody gets trained, like, hey, you want to take your pick. Nah, nah, nothing that's not. Nothing that shit looked good, man, we'd have for all that.
Starting point is 01:37:21 Stop trying to bring extra shit to the table. This was old up. This was old up. You were like COVID, right? Are you complaining about the extra shit, y'all about that? You're trying to bring a meal over to a chef's house, like, no, we good. What about the boots?
Starting point is 01:37:36 I like the boots trade to Boston. We will get to that. Oh, my God. That was a down. That's probably the best move about all of them. He's a corner nigger. That's a corner nigger. Who's not corner nigger?
Starting point is 01:37:48 Who is he? What are you talking? What do you talk? What? He at the five-pressing that. What do you call him? You're a double double. Is he a star?
Starting point is 01:37:58 Yeah. The guy too star. Huh? Star is he a star. He doesn't need to deal. He's not a star. He's not a star. He's not a star.
Starting point is 01:38:05 So you know why he's not a star? He's a star. He's a star. He's a star. They all-star. He'd been putting up the numbers in Chicago. Turn into corners. No, listen, not over there in Boston.
Starting point is 01:38:14 He's going to be fine about it. Let's move on. Let's move on to that train. If we can't play. What was Paziga? What was Paziga? A corner naga. It was the same niggas over there.
Starting point is 01:38:27 You can play through Booch. Come on, man. You can play through Boosh. He's right there is 17, 18 foot, knocking that bin now. Go ahead. Go ahead, Josiah. So let me give you a detail. This is segue time here.
Starting point is 01:38:38 This is segue time here. Gilz Reeder presented by Underdog Woodbub. Say it great thing. That's a nice thing after me today. You found my defensive stance earlier. Oh, yeah, no, that defense stands is historical. It was a photo. It's level. He's a higher level quorn. 17, 9, and
Starting point is 01:38:53 4. He gets the call first. Bulls were also involved in another trade Tuesday, this one with the Celtics. Let's take a look. If we can, please, Boston acquiring center, Nicola Vuccivich, aka Vucci Man, and a second round pick from Chicago in exchange for Anthony Simons, and a second round
Starting point is 01:39:09 pick. So Celtics address their front court depth needs by adding the two-time All-Star Vucciovich, averaging 17-9 rebounds, four assists, 48 games this season on 51-38-84 splits. 51-3884 split. Stay with your chest. So, GSP's Bobby Marks,
Starting point is 01:39:25 also reported that Boston saved more than 20 million in luxury tax payments in the moves by swapping in his $27 million expiring contract for Vujovitch in his $21 million expiring contract. So Celtics were projected to have a salary and country tax bill of $540 million back on June 15, 2025,
Starting point is 01:39:44 with Bradson's making several moves to significantly reduced that projection to just $211 million as of February 2nd. And even without Jason Tatum so far this season, Boston is still third in the east with a record of 32 and 18. Gil how much does Nicola Vucovich move the needle for the Celtics in the Eastern Conference? Third right now, you know, former two-time all-stop. I wasn't even thinking about right now.
Starting point is 01:40:07 I'm thinking about when Jason Tatum comes. He's third right now. He ain't third right now? That's big. That was a big move, dog. He helped. Big move. With or without Jason Taylor.
Starting point is 01:40:16 17 and 9? Better with Jason Taylor, of course. Yeah, they're trying to. On very efficient. Very efficient, big man. Yeah. Yeah. Err without this.
Starting point is 01:40:26 He didn't give up corners for corners. James ain't been playing every side. He didn't like how he played over there. I didn't either. I didn't like how Hay. Simmons playing in Boston. Oh, I hate why. But he's giving you nothing.
Starting point is 01:40:37 Yeah. Who's going. Butch is going to talk about a lot. And he's a stretch. He's a stretch. He's a stretch. He's a stretch. He's been like Sabonis, man.
Starting point is 01:40:45 He's just been in that bitch rotting. He's been in a rebound. He's been in motherfucking Chicago. Do any dude just rotting. What's funny is, like Sabonis. If you know how to pick players around in your roles, they look good. If you don't, remember, Sabonis was a what? 20 and 10, 20 and 12 guy.
Starting point is 01:41:02 When he had the right pieces around him, what has he been lately? Yeah. Yeah. Now, he came back from injury, though. He was doing triple double. You can get back to that. You got to remember triple double. I had shooters.
Starting point is 01:41:15 I had shooters. I don't have shooters now. I got drivers who want the ball and play ISO. So you took away my assist. Yep. Right? Yep. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:41:24 You took away what we do best when we were the third seed. When we were the third seed in the motherfucking western conference, doing it this way, you want to change shit. Now we're in the basement every year. So yeah, that's what happens. make these goddamn decisions. I think that's going to help. It's going to help big time. Bruce is going to watch. I mean, just him,
Starting point is 01:41:44 they can be fighting for the... No, that's what, this is the first three? This way. It ain't. It ain't what you think. They didn't really lose. So, sure. They didn't lose nothing. They didn't lose what you were seeing. Sure. Because if you're watching, I'm watching them, and I'm like,
Starting point is 01:42:01 Simon's is not giving me what I thought he was in. Like, I'm thinking 22, 23, you're going to be showing out like, taught you and he's playing behind he's literally deferring to Derek White I didn't like that playoff star today y'all beat the Celtics shook yeah let's go let's go Shug I like it I like it I like it sure did he get hurt before they put him where they put out last year most Tateham was hurt before right the Hurt put them out they didn't put them out last year nix put them out next put them out next year
Starting point is 01:42:34 Nick's put them out last year sure be oh he said me and put him out like they got You know the biggest is delusional. They'd be thinking random. He said, be a little. Tricking that Lake Erie was out. Come on, man. Wake up. Wake up.
Starting point is 01:42:47 Wake up. Hey. Y'all was saying, Hey, Shook. Your fellow, Cleveland folks, mad at me about the airport comment, too. Cleveland Airport, not a desirable airport.
Starting point is 01:42:59 They was hot with me about that shit. Cleveland, y'all know it's not a desirable airport. There's nothing to try to get mad at us. I ask a simple question. They fell every year. They get mad at us. Like, we don't want this doing it. Like, I know,
Starting point is 01:43:08 They get hype, like, oh, we're about to make it to play off, they get it in a different to what, and then they don't do it. Like, we hate it. That's exactly. That's exactly. Swat. Yes. All the goddamn games and didn't do nothing.
Starting point is 01:43:23 My fucking best friend is, please. My best friend is from fucking C in the finals. Who? Mark. Boston or Cleveland. Talk them off the lid every year. But these things, do you think they can beat like OKC or Denver in the finals? If there's a team that can possibly beat them in a
Starting point is 01:43:38 probably be Cleveland. Yeah, I would say that. So, bring me to my next question, Jason Tatum. Still undecided about whether he wants to return this season. The rehab is progressing as scheduled, according to Joe Missoula. Tatum expressing second thoughts potentially about trying to make a comeback this year. I wouldn't. Celtics, third in the east.
Starting point is 01:43:58 I wouldn't. Just got Vucci, man. I wouldn't. Imagine, without your third, come back next year, him 100%. The reason, the reason I wouldn't, is we have. have history here. We're watching Embed, right? We're watching what happened when he came back when he didn't
Starting point is 01:44:16 supposed to. No need for it, right? We're watching Anthony Davis, right? You're watching the injury linger through seasons. So if you were supposed to miss this whole season and come back the following year and be ready to play, don't try to jump out there and say, oh, we might get a chance to win the championship.
Starting point is 01:44:40 Well, you haven't been playing all season to be intact right now. You still got to find your legs, find your way, and you don't want to try to do that in the playoffs. We see what happened to your unicorn trying that shit. Every other game, Maccalf, Maccalf, got to sit out. They won a championship without chip. Yeah, I just think it would be a mistake. Yeah, I'm trying to come back this year and play, man.
Starting point is 01:45:03 Just sit it out, man. Let the chips fall as they made this year. Whatever happens this year. you live with the results and you come back with a healthy Jason Tatum next year. The way Jaylen Brown has been playing, everybody has another year under their belt having to do
Starting point is 01:45:19 more. I think it only helps your situation moving forward. So no Tatum this year. Let's say Tatum doesn't come back. And this Celtics roster still contend to get to the Eastern Conference Finals, potentially the NBA finals. But you don't need to hook, man.
Starting point is 01:45:35 It's hard for them. I'm not going to be the one that say they can't. Like you're third right now you already prove everybody wrong. Now you just added somebody who can actually help you with a double double. Yeah. And this year was already ready. You just added, like you're adding the piece. You're not trading the piece and it's equal.
Starting point is 01:45:51 You're adding something to what you're doing. This year was already written off of Boston. I know that's, whatever they're doing now, it's already a plus. Yeah, it's already a plus. So I'm telling what I'm taking them. I'm definitely, I'm just chilling because everybody with, you know, everybody already had just rhythm off. A Tatum off the bench, don't know. No.
Starting point is 01:46:08 You're risking shit for what? To bring him off the bench to play him 20 minutes. Remember this year was already 20 minutes. Because you had already watched the year. You had already watched the year. He wasn't playing. He tore his Achilles. So you didn't think he was coming back nowhere.
Starting point is 01:46:20 So now you're playing with house money. And everybody watched this year for them. So imagine you make just, just say have shit to giggas right. You get the right match up in the first room. You don't make this trade for nothing, bro. I'm making it for next year. Yeah. But if you're saying I'm watching right now, Taylor, I'm just
Starting point is 01:46:34 I don't understand. I can't understand. But I'm just saying. And I think his time. Poison Ivy. It's all he want from when he got hurt and he had the surgery. Yeah, the time of the injury. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:46 Because he got hurt in the playoffs. It ain't like you got hurt early in the season. He got hurt in the playoffs, which is late in this season. But he's had that year. Had he got hurt in October? Had he got hurt in October? I give you that. He ain't had to bring.
Starting point is 01:47:00 He got hurt in the fucking May. Yeah, he got hurt. The end of April. The beginning of May, he got hurt. And the playoffs that year. So he was to get back at the top of the... For what? Yeah, so I've been not playing for a whole year.
Starting point is 01:47:12 Now, I've got to come out there and play. Get ready for the playoffs? Get ready for playoffs? No, they don't. And the playoffs is another level. Like, if he's ramping up now, if he's practicing today, then you're getting ready for the playoffs. But if you're not moving right now,
Starting point is 01:47:28 and you're about to go into playoffs and then start moving? He's been working out. Working out and playing basketball. No, no. Two different things. You see what my son looks like the first four games working out playing basketball? All right. Until five on five happened.
Starting point is 01:47:43 Real people out there. He didn't get you and moving. He had 29. And then he ended up having 29. You see what happened? It takes time. Now what happens usually when you come back? He's averaging 29 and 9.
Starting point is 01:47:58 Now that means the first couple games, I'm fighting what I'm trying to do. Then I got to defer to him. Like, this is too much. Now I got to try to do more now. more now I'm going to hurt something else. Yeah, I'm trying to find out with them. Do something else. And I wonder why everybody comes back and gets hurt.
Starting point is 01:48:13 Yeah, it's going to be something else. Because of the same thought process. I can come off the bench, do this, and no damn well, you're not coming off the bench. Because what it is, right? You're not going to bring me off the bench. So when you got an injure or something of this magnitude, right? Just take me my microfracturege surgeon my left one, right? I'm worried about this motherfucking left microfract surgery that's bothered I know I didn't
Starting point is 01:48:31 have worked on. I'm not thinking about my other knee. I'm not thinking about my other ligaments and tendons and all this other shit. You know what? I'm out to overcompensating. And the next year, I got to get micro fracture on the other knee. So, no, it ain't worth it. Like, I should have set my ass down and I would have been a right.
Starting point is 01:48:49 Somebody would have told it what we tell him Jay Tedman, sit your ass down, man, and be right and be ready for your team the following year. Like, you play with house money right now. I never believe in coming back in the second half. You're missing all year coming back in the second half of the season. Like, we know what everybody looks at at the beginning. of the season. Are we not thinking about the beginning of the season every year, which means they trained all summer to get ready. They would do training camp to get ready. How many injuries
Starting point is 01:49:16 happened in the first 90 days? This is going to be his first 90 days. Why were you in the point time? Reave up to come out. Reve up to come out, come off the bench, play men and, like these little minutes on a... He's going to be on a minute restriction. It's going to be 15 to 20 minutes and then you're going to rev him up and soon as you rev him up. Because his body ain't you. You shouldn't and you wouldn't, but you would get the prime fresh Jason Tatum, though. Next year. No, I'm saying. Next year.
Starting point is 01:49:41 No, you wouldn't. We get a prime fresh everybody at the beginning of the season. How that worked out? Yeah. You don't know. Poor hands, trans, we do know. We do know how we get hurt in the season. But not with them.
Starting point is 01:49:53 It's track right now. We're not talking about them. Everybody. We're talking about them. It's 400 people in the game. He got hurt late in the season. So therefore don't know him back. So now, if he comes back in the peak,
Starting point is 01:50:03 peak in shape, Right now. How? When? When does he have practice? Three months. To get a game shape. To get a game shape.
Starting point is 01:50:11 Boy, I'm talking to a nigger who in shape. Stop talking to- Game shape. Like I don't know how to play. You're not in game shape. You're not in game shape. You can be by doing what? By playing.
Starting point is 01:50:21 Playing what? You're running up and down. No, no, playing what? Two on two. One-on-one-one. No, whoa, whoa, whoa. There ain't no way you're going to be in game shape playing two on two on two, three-on-three, nigger, not a chance.
Starting point is 01:50:32 Five on five. Five-on-five. You can do that. There's no way you can do that. You can't eat for me. I can't. You can't speak for Jason. I can speak for everybody that plays basketball.
Starting point is 01:50:44 I can speak for everybody that play basketball. The only way to get in game shape is to play fucking games. I don't get up of what you talking about. The only way to get in game shape is to play in games. 10. What kind of game? That's what the fuck it is. You could play two and two in the game.
Starting point is 01:51:01 What game? What game? So you play four. NBA games? So two on two on two NBA games? I'm going hard. And then it's three on three hard. It's three on three hard.
Starting point is 01:51:11 It's a three on five and five. What? It's the NBA game two on two? Let me ask you. That's it harder. Now, which players is he going to be playing three on three with to get him in shape? Which players in practice are you going to say, you know what? We need to get him in shape.
Starting point is 01:51:25 So whatever you all doing, y'all got to stop it to get him in shape. What players are those? And then whatever players you come up with, think about the players he got to play against in the game. against end the game, in the real game, right? You're playing them against G-Leod players to then go in the game, and he got to guard Giannis and all of them, man, y'all. Name somebody who missed all year,
Starting point is 01:51:47 came back at the end of the year, a star player and ball. Got them OG and the Nogiannobian, motherfuckold McHale Bridges out there, like, no, it's not. Flying down to, flying down the court. You got a fucking bars and e-bring, all that big is running in the corner. No, you got not doing that,
Starting point is 01:52:01 Bill is sitting in the corner. Name me. Wait, wait. How about this? Way for a ball. Name me a player who missed all year with an Achilles hair, came back three months before the season started to go in the playoffs. It was that dude.
Starting point is 01:52:12 Uh, Jason Tatum. Right. Oh, that's who I have a name. So no. I'm saying the nigg can't do this shit. Right. Just because y'all say the shit, don't mean, it's real. Right?
Starting point is 01:52:23 Okay. Yeah, they can set new standards every fucking day, man. Yeah, they can. And they didn't. Let's see. They can and they can. Oh, we have some. We have some.
Starting point is 01:52:32 Oh, yeah. Hold on, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on. They're not real. So you know, listen, hold on. They're not real. I got a better one for you. We have a live, living fucking person that's sitting right in. We can touch the nigga right now.
Starting point is 01:52:46 Brandon, you told your fucking Achilles. Yep. Yep. What did you do? I had to wait to come back. Did you do? It took me a long time. Please, please explain your Achilles.
Starting point is 01:52:59 How long did you miss? Damn, there half the half the year, almost the whole year. And when you came back, how long this thing? A calendar year. Hold on, a calendar year. Yeah. Brandon, stop letting these things. No, I'm here.
Starting point is 01:53:10 You're asking them answer for you, nigga. These niggas is what a card in your house. He's talking for you. He asked me two questions. Was it a calendar? How did you ask you a question? I got to answer it for you. He asked you and then he answered for you.
Starting point is 01:53:26 Please explain, Brandon. I asked him a question. You asked me questions. You asked me questions. Didn't you? I got a question. I got a question. I got heard of December.
Starting point is 01:53:33 The year first. What shit is weird. I got hurt in December. Yes, that. I got hurt in December. Just let it finish. No, please. I got hurt in December.
Starting point is 01:53:41 Uh-huh. I did not come back to play until November or December. Okay. The next year. So you're almost a Cal, in the next year. Yes. Now, when you started that next season, what was, how did you start off? Because you had all summer the train, right?
Starting point is 01:53:55 Right. And then I came back and then I had to train with the third unit. But I wasn't playing at all. We had to train with what unit? The third unit? Did you feel like you want to play? Did you feel like you could play? Did you feel like you could play?
Starting point is 01:54:06 Was training with them? No. No, I couldn't, no, because I couldn't run up and down full speed. They're playing, five on five was so hard for me. Yes, did I play one-on-one? Did I play the two on two? Yes, but we're talking about now I gotta play five-on-five, guard Reggie Jackson, come off the screens, do all that. That was so, it was tough for me at the beginning.
Starting point is 01:54:22 Yes. And you were tough. And you trained in a side? Yeah, I trained everything. I trained everything. It was almost a calendar year, correct? Yes, it was a calendar year, yes. Yes.
Starting point is 01:54:31 And this was back then. They're moving faster. But the guys today now, the surgery is different. But back there. He didn't need a year. He missed a season. He trained in the summer to get ready for the next season. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:44 So training. Yeah, we did that. Okay. Let me try this again. America and they're trying to the next. Let's try this again. He missed the year. He trained in a summer, got through training camp, and then still struggled.
Starting point is 01:54:55 This guy. He said December. That's middle of the year. December. December. 15 games, 20 games. 20 games, 20 games, and then came back the next season. That means he went through the summer, went through training camp.
Starting point is 01:55:10 How many months? How many months? Okay. How many months are we need to count? Do we need to count this month? Do we need to count them to the months? Kind of, that's what I'm saying. So you want to come back in the back?
Starting point is 01:55:23 Hold on, hold on, hold on. I let you eat. So you're not letting nobody eat. James out and just set out of the whole season. I ain't pulled this book. He trained, he went to training camp, started off the season, struggled because it's his first game planned. Steve Blake still had to play before me. So that is the beginning of season.
Starting point is 01:55:42 Jason Tatum went to the D-League too. Jason Tatum is coming in in the end of the season, no training camp, no summer, and it's going to be put in full-fledged flight playoffs. Okay, cool. Now what you said when you started yelling. You said, and you always say it, shit that's not real, you said you could. I said, who could? You said, I could get in shape. Just like you said, Tatum could be the first.
Starting point is 01:56:20 You never have no actual facts on shit. It's always I could and I can't. Uh-oh. Never, it is. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. I never have any facts on shit. But I got this fucking book of contradictions that this dick is sit up here and try to debate me on.
Starting point is 01:56:38 I'm 78% right on half of the shit. He says I'm not right on. But what the fuck are we talking about? What the fuck are we talking about? Name me a superstar. And you said, Jason Taylor, which is no fact. Then I said, you said, get in shape. He said, I can.
Starting point is 01:56:57 Hey, Josiah, what's the nickname? Not I am. Bro, what are we talking about? Tom is it? Is it time to go? I can. Keep going. I can.
Starting point is 01:57:06 Hey, underdog, I think it's time to go, man. I can. I think it's time to go, man. Is it a, what? Is it a time to go? That's me if I can. Time to go. Hey, hey, hey, I can pick the kids up.
Starting point is 01:57:17 Hey, I got to pick the kids. I can. I got to pick the kids up. I can. I can't. If I want a duck, I can dunk. I got to pick the kids up. Chat, chat.
Starting point is 01:57:28 You got to put the kids. It's an obvious. Can we ask the chat? I can dunk if I want a dump. Even though I ain't dunk since 32. I can if I want to. What's up, Nick? Do you ever ducked in 12 years?
Starting point is 01:57:42 I haven't dunked in 12 years. Damn. But I can, though. This is the same thing that he's doing 1,000 push-ups in two hours. Same thing. You don't believe nothing this niggas say, man. Don't ever believe nothing this nigger say, man. His body would actually look like a thousand push-ups in a day.
Starting point is 01:58:00 Chatt, are we counting these? Chad, are we counting these? They do? Some people, yeah, the niggas I go to the gym, but they do thousands. But can you, do you count that as a push-up? Yeah, I got here, if he do, I don't, because I do my push-up on dumbbells, so I don't.
Starting point is 01:58:14 But you do. You know, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, it is. It is a good hard-up. Hey, y'all see what I make a nigga do to prove his point? I make a motherfucker get down on the ground and prove it to me. Drop it, give me a half.
Starting point is 01:58:30 You better prove it to me, nigga. Do more. Would you do two more hundred more, you know? Stop, Gil. Is it embarrassing? Is it embarrassing? Is it obvious?
Starting point is 01:58:41 I'm pretty impressed. Pretty impressed. We've been doing this for four years now. Is that 100? That's 100. Gil, you want that growth hormone, tell the truth? Now, ask me a question again.
Starting point is 01:58:53 I guarantee I ain't going to say I can. I just did. I did. Who? Jason Tyson. So I guess Jason Taylor and do it or I can. Don't agree. How much more time do I have to keep doing that?
Starting point is 01:59:07 I got 24 hours. I got two hours. You have another hour, 58 minutes to do a thousand. You go ahead and good job. I do this in front of holes and shit. Oh. Did you mom? Don't ask me shit.
Starting point is 01:59:22 Did you mom hurry? Don't ask something about no joke. Did what? In the playoffs? No, I'm saying. Did he get hurt? In the playoffs? How long did you
Starting point is 01:59:30 I'm just saying I'm asking the question He didn't tell me of Achilles neither Gil Chats say you didn't fully extend I don't know But this is your show It was ace kid I'm just remember the Achilles That's different
Starting point is 01:59:40 Back in the head For everybody in the chat Who's been to prison Does that count? I'm just Everything back then Yes it was different But now the surgery
Starting point is 01:59:49 But it's on you though It's the time that you mean For sure It's like the medicine The surgery All that shit is new yet Yes Have guys come back
Starting point is 01:59:57 sooner yes For the play? All of those, I'm saying, have guys come back earlier than they should. Then the time hasn't been a lot of it. Yes. I don't know anybody that's come back from Achilles that played in the playoffs. I thought John Hall Murray came back. But like I said, this man been through it and he missed the full calendar years.
Starting point is 02:00:14 ACL at the end of the season. The playing the playoffs. ACL. That's just, come on. A. All right, ACL ain't shit. Do you got your ACL, my own? So we're talking about the Achilles here, though, man.
Starting point is 02:00:24 And how do they look at the playoffs? It's not the same thing. How long did they miss? Do you need your ACL to walk? Not more than you need your Achilles. Do you need both of them? I can tell you, I can't walk without one of them. I've seen the motherfucker walk without ACL.
Starting point is 02:00:39 I ain't seen too many motherfuckers walk without that mother of my name. You can't play without one of them. There's one person, man. You can't play without one of them. Y'all bring one person, one person that's done it. That's what we need. That's what we need. We got the answer.
Starting point is 02:00:53 We need one. The 21, 22 season. The 21, 22 season. He did A proud Canadian This season All of it Didn't come back for the playoffs
Starting point is 02:01:10 Mm-hmm And on that note Before we wrap up We asked the chat Is it obvious? We asked the chat Is it obvious? Nearly 2,000 votes
Starting point is 02:01:21 Is it obvious? 76% say it's obvious 76 Hey, he still think it's because of him He still think it's coming him He still think it's coming him Hey
Starting point is 02:01:34 Gil the only one Don't got no sound Huh No I just He's the only nigga on here Don't got a sound I don't So he's gonna try to steal my sound
Starting point is 02:01:43 When he's trying to steal my group Wait you said try I didn't have this groove For a while You said try I didn't have this groove For a wow You said try
Starting point is 02:01:51 To a nigga come on here And be like Let me steal size He said try Ian Ian Hey, hey. Hey, this is a, hey, Ian, come on.
Starting point is 02:02:05 Hey, no, you know what's funny? Hey, no, you know, he's in the situation. He don't want to deal with it. Shake your hand. Hey, y'all was funny. Hey, y'all was funny. I come in here and motherfucking say good shit about all y'all in here. This is what you do to me, bro.
Starting point is 02:02:19 Okay. Hey, guys. You're doing. Don't be looking crazy with Sean. Come in here. Y'all say nuts. Hey, that's going to say. All right, man.
Starting point is 02:02:28 This is what we're doing. He gets this old black. This is what we're doing. Hey, hey. Seventy-six percent. I didn't try, I did. Seen, let's hit the bell on it. 76.
Starting point is 02:02:38 76. Dard. Yeah. Tension being created here in Gills Arena. Unnecessarily, Ian being dragged into conflict of situation. Nah, he ain't being a part of. He don't want to be a bike in the shit. He just want to come get his check.
Starting point is 02:02:56 Get a couple buttons. We know what it is. Oh, my, my, my ass, and your ass is Pito. Your ass, fuck. The stripper game started back in time. On that note, good place for us to wrap up for day. We'll have much more NBA trade deadline news tomorrow as a trade deadline continues going. There'll be a whole lot going on to rest of this day.
Starting point is 02:03:28 It's going to be a whole lot going on after these cameras turn off. Pray for all of us, ladies and gentlemen. Shout out to everybody in the chat. We appreciate you, as always. Shout out to everybody on this couch. I want to tell my sister, man, speedy recovery. My sister had a major surgery yesterday, man. So speed of recovery, speedy recovery.
Starting point is 02:03:43 Speed recovery, decay, baby. And we'll have a speedy recovery tomorrow. We will be back. Pull up on me again when I'm driving my golf cart. I started to pull up a little. I started to, yeah. But you had the baby on the car with you. I didn't want to come in.
Starting point is 02:03:57 And on that note. Yeah, I need you all to, I need to raise some money for this. I need like $2.5 for everybody. Is that cool? No, seriously. Man, you know, they... He's just saying, like, Girl Scouts couldn't eat this chick by the daughter up to the gym. I need $25 from them.
Starting point is 02:04:13 25 going a long way for the kids. Have your old-ass young son take his ass out to Home Depot whatever and sell them cookies like here. Hey, no, that's funny. Oh, hey, hey, hey, I don't want to cut you. Dude, people are really watching the show. You know what's having the conversation by the kids and all that. I was at the mall the other day, the dude had a fashion. He was selling chocolate.
Starting point is 02:04:35 Like, yo, okay, I saw the show. the show, I'm gonna cut my beard, yo. Hey, hey, hey. He was coming down to ask him. Hey, Kay, I saw the show, man, I'm gonna cut my face right. Hold on, hold on. I said it. Hold on.
Starting point is 02:04:48 I said it. No, I asked. I just need $25. It's for the kid. My bad. Think about the kid. Think about your mom. One more piece of news, Gil.
Starting point is 02:05:00 Do what you gotta do first. We have one more piece of news, ladies and gentlemen. Before we go. What we got now? Breaking news. Cavs have agreed to trade Lonzo Ball two second round picks to the Utah Jazz. Four. That's all the information that Shams has provided.
Starting point is 02:05:15 But Rich Paul and Jazz were expected to discuss his future soon. Lanzo may get bought out. Lanzo may be coming home, ladies gentlemen. Come on, Lanzo. Or go to Charlotte with Lamella. Either way, we will talk about that more in-depth tomorrow once we get more information. But... Just give me a dub.
Starting point is 02:05:30 I just need a duff. You're going to Utah, too? He is going to the heart of Caucasia, the Utah Jazz. I told you they only trade for light and white. What you think, girl? I think Shaw's about to give me some good news. You have the fundraisers? Yeah, I do.
Starting point is 02:05:52 For real, for real. Thank you, man. See? I will also put $25. Thank you, man. Thank you, man. Not for the kids. Hey, if you're in the chat, donate some bread to swaggy fundraising.
Starting point is 02:06:00 The island one that had to put up the money. $25? $25? That's a $200. between y'all. But this has been another episode of Gills Arena presented by Underdog. We will see y'all tomorrow! No, for real. Put the keys, I promise.

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