Gil's Arena - Baron Davis UNLEASHES His NBA Takes on Gil's Arena

Episode Date: January 12, 2024

Baron Davis UNLEASHES His NBA Takes on Gil's Arena he and Gilbert Arenas dive into the rumors surrounding the future of these franchises after reports that everyone besides Steph Curry and Kevin Durant are available for trade. Other NBA Topics include, Jimmy Butler and Joel Embiid's fight against the NBA's games requirements, an instant classic between the Boston Celtics & Minnesota Timberwolves where Jayson Tatum & Jaylen Brown carried the C's to victory and Stephen A Smith's viral rant aimed at Jason Whitlock. Please throw us a like and subscribe if you enjoyed the show! Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GILSARENA and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: / @gilsarena APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Pre-Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 CHAPTERS: Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:04:54 LeBron James and The YSL Trial 0:10:19 End of an Era For Nick Saban & Bill Belichick 0:15:32 Stephen A Smith GOES AT Jason Whitlock 0:25:13 Pat McAfee In Hot Water 0:35:44 Jimmy Butler Says Winning Is All That Matters 0:41:00 Will Embiid Meet The 65-Game MVP Minimum? 0:47:15 Will NBA Be Forced To Change Minimum Game Requirements? 0:51:37 Baron Davis Enters The Arena 1:10:26 Joel Embiid Is This Generation's Shaq | Facts or Cap 1:11:32 Brandon vs Gil - Who's The Best Hooper Part II 1:21:43 Baron Davis Is Worried For The Warriors 1:30:18 Why Did KD Leave The Warriors? 1:39:40 What Do The Suns Need To Do To Improve? 1:43:24 Are PG's Born or Can You Make Them? 1:53:11 Should KD Embrace The Grind With The Suns? 2:00:04 Wemby Drops 1st Triple Double 2:07:41 Gil's Arena Shootout Promo 2:11:35 MostlyFans 2:17:54 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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They just been saying shit about me, they didn't even fucking know me. This is my school. This is what I was doing with what nobody knew. Y'all don't know what goes on in practice. Or the locker room. I'm out. Welcome back to Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Whoa, whoa! Thursday, last show of the week. Extremely productive week. Out here getting it. Yes, yes, what? What? Thursday, last show of the week. Extremely productive week.

Out here getting it. Yes, yes, yes. How you doing, Gil? Good, good. Everything good? All excited? Got me a, got me a, what's this, friend bracelet? Yeah, I made everyone bracelets.

Lexi was kind enough to bring the entire crew friendship bracelets she made by hand. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Which makes up for her wearing a Celtic starter jacket in the arena. Yeah. Oh, oh, oh.

She's trying to soften. She's trying to soften us. Oh, I'm not. I'm just a nice person. She's trying to soften us up. I am just a kind human being. Oh, yeah. Let me put this on the other wrist.

Yeah. Let me put this on the other wrist. See? Oh, that's a nice person. They said it might be infected with something. Yeah. You should try it. Making bracelets. It's a very therapeutic

thing to do. No, when I get that 100,000, I make all the bracelets I need. Oh, look at it! As you know, Gil's a struggling creator.

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End-season tournament. It's an end-season tournament. It's like the end-season tournament. Yeah. You're going to be out the first round. Cap. I can't wait. Cap.

First round. Out. First of all, I'm not losing to know uh was it youtubers Creators creators creators Can we say this and we will we will clip this off and have it ready to go in the event that it does happen Talk about youtubers this shows on YouTube you are a youtuber as well you were in It does happen. You talk about YouTubers. I did. This show is on YouTube.

You are a YouTuber as well. You are in. One of us. One of us. You are a YouTuber. Athlete that YouTube. One of us. A YouTuber nerd that YouTube.

Different. Not losing to no nerd. You are in fact a YouTuber. Huh? Your little streams, all that. Yeah, but I wasn't a nerd first. Why do I gotta be nerds? You're smart.

I'm talking about nerd, nerd. But you're a black man named Gilbert. So in a sense, you are nerds and nerds. You might be the last black Gilbert on the face of the road ash as that should that should Have been it's only one damn Herbert and all the me this should be gone the 1940 name should be You said now we cutting that off right it will not go any further But this is gills arena presented by underdog fantasy we got Gilbert arenas here with us We got Lexi Brown back on the couch seeing you on ABC last night with raw food cuz I could doing your thing

Yeah, how old is Rob? He's about 137. He's been doing this shit since I've been alive. He's definitely seasoned He's a seasoned pro. That's the good way to say it. We got Brandon Jennings back here representing Tough Crowd. All black. He was doing some ugly stuff. I'm glad to see you back in the Tough Crowd gear. No disrespect to ugly.

Unless a collab was brewing, there was no bag attached to it. You know I don't support it. Just my personal feelings. Where's the bag? All right. But here's what we got cracking in the arena today. The Warriors are down bad, but is this really the end of the Dubs dynasty? Some hope so.

KD says he doesn't want to be traded and loves to grind, but will the Suns be grinding in the playoffs or Cancun? And Embiid is in danger of not playing enough games to win a second straight MVP But is he the Shack of this generation Paul George thinks so we will get into that But before we do all that as always this show is brought to you by underdog fantasy help a cap It's not brought to you by underdog fantasy. No, I just it just register what you said Nick Shack Know you talking about O'Neal what you said. The next Shaq. Whoa, wait. I was mad to listen. I didn't know you was talking about O'Neal.

My bad. Shaq O'Neal. He already called Shaq already. Shaquille O'Neal. Oh, man. Oh, shit. Oh, Lord. Ooh, they about to start

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Oh, it's already going to be a while done. Let me stretch. Hold on. Let me stretch. So let's get into it. We got some pop culture things to talk about before we hit the basketball. So the Young Thug YSL Rico trial is in day 18 and LeBron James was

mentioned today during proceedings. Have you and LeBron James was mentioned today during proceedings. Have you seen LeBron James do a video without a video, wiping nose, saying slime to his teammates? I'm saying LeBron James, he got a different handshake for each clue. Yeah. Yeah. So, describe.

So, non-responsive. Yeah, I'll stand the objection. Describe what you remember seeing LeBron James doing when you say he has a different handshake for you. An objection to relevance. It'll be relevant in a minute. What do you remember LeBron James doing with each individual teammate that you described? And tell the jury.

He do a lot of stuff. He do a lot of stuff. teammate that you described and tell the jury? You do a lot of stuff. You do a lot of stuff. Did one of them include wiping those things dry? If you remember, if you don't remember, it's okay, Mr. Stevens. man the barman did it so the defense uh the defense of the trial discussed serena williams crip walking and lebron doing the slime handshake to prove that just because a person

may show or say they're in a gang It does not mean they're actually in a gang. So Lexi, we'll start with you What do you make of LeBron being mentioned in the YSL Rico trial today? A little unnecessary But I mean I see the point that they're trying to make I get it But like there's a lot of NBA players who do that. There's a lot of people in pop culture who do that So I don't know. Why did they choose LeBron?

Because he's the most noticeable? I think very noticeable figure saying, here's LeBron Ray, my James Sr. Family man, Los Angeles Laker, in-season tournament champion, five-time MVP of NBA tournaments. If he's doing it, is he in the gang? No.

No, that's crazy. Or they're trying to get LeBron every time, huh? Tournaments. If he's doing it, is he in the gang? No. No, that's crazy. Or they're trying to get LeBron implicated. I don't know. BJ, what you think? Man, it's 2024. You never know what's going to happen. What people are going to say. Like, so who knows?

But that was kind of a waste of time. What? Yeah, it's a waste of time. You see his hair? That man's about 21. Whole back gray. So he's stressing already. What? Yeah, it's a waste of time. You see his hair? That man's about 21. Whole back gray. So he's stressed already.

He was. I don't know what's going on up in jail, but the man got a head full of gray hair already. That's me. I'm naming every celebrity that's famous. They ain't got no police record. Jay-Z was doing it. Rihanna was doing it. I even seen Drake did I'm naming every Model citizen that ever did this say yeah

I've seen him do it you got to pretend that you don't know you you got a pretty like oh You got it as part of the whole act so what I try to say what his gang is No, there's no game cuz LeBron James is doing it. Okay. Yeah, LeBron James... So they're just doing it for funsies. He down pat, he wearing a Tommy Hilfiger hoodie. He down pat.

They're trying to say it's a gang, so the defense is trying to say, no we're not. Right. Because everyone does it. Everyone does it. Oh, okay. LeBron James, Justin Bieber out there doing it, uh-huh. Miley Cyrus. Yeah.

You just making a... It's like the handshake is like a new dance. Yeah, it's a new dance. You're just making a baby. The handshake is like a new dance. It's a new dance. Everybody doing it. Everybody doing it. Thoughts on him wearing a Tommy Hilfiger hoodie, though, in the year I lower 2024. Right now. Look at him, boy. That boy. He only 20? In the Zoom, the Zoom in the background.

People not showing their faces. People show 26, 27. God damn. They showed that clip in the courtroom? Yes. Oh, no. No, no. I think we just had to add context. Oh, okay.

Just to show. LeBron does handshakes with all of his teammates. He's an... So Gil, I got to ask you, is Young Thug going to beat the case? You're a resident lawyer, Gil. To be honest, man, I have no idea, man. I just want to listen to the music. That's it.

That's it. I just want to listen to the music, man. I was listening to Young Thug this morning. That's it. I was getting ready. That's it. He left enough music for us. Yeah, you know.

I was like, dang, he really in trial and jail right now. I don't like Young Thug. I mean. I don't know. I haven't been following the case close enough to really have an opinion, but it's not looking good for him. We need Johnny Cochran back. Rest in peace to the legend.

You never know because, like this, you know, you're trying to, as a defense, you're trying to throw as much spaghetti on the wall for the jury. Yeah, that's right. And, you know, and this is one of those, right? You know, they're trying to say you're a menace to society, and you're a gang, and this is one of those, right? You know, if they're trying to say you're a menace to society, you're a gang, and they're like, well, LeBron James, you know, he does the same thing we do. And it's like, well, boy, LeBron's not in the gang.

Right, right. LeBron has a family. He's a role model. He's a billionaire. Like, so it can't be that bad if this guy is doing it. And that kind of, you know, if you're a jury, you're kind of thinking like oh yeah that's true in season tournament champion lebron james but let's keep this thing moving big

news hitting the college football and nfl world this week as nick saban pete carroll and bill belichick will not be coaching with their respective teams next season so let's start in college first wednesday nick saban announced that he's stepping down as Alabama's coach after 17 seasons. Saban won six national championships with the Tide and has seven chips in his career. He won one at LSU as well. So Brandon, we'll start with you. Thoughts on Saban stepping down at Alabama, if you have any. Probably the greatest college coach ever. Oh, really? Any sport? Any sport. Wow. Okay. Okay. So he got a hell of a resume. Congratulations.

He was 72 years old, too. He's a... Old. Yeah, old man. The NIL wife probably aged him to 15 years. But yeah, he had a great career, great resume, like Brendan said. But like, it's nice to be able to retire kind of when you're on the top. They made it to the Final Four or whatever, the playoff, right? Yeah, lost to Michigan.

They didn't win, but they lost to the eventual winners, which I guess is okay. But it's good to retire when you're still at the peak of your career, kind of. The Tide. What do you think about saying it? The rolling Tide? Tide. Roll you think about saying, is it rolling tide? Tide. Roll tide. Roll tide.

Roll tide. The tide. They're not rolling. They just roll. Just one roll. Roll tide. Just roll tide. Just one roll, huh?

Not roll. Tide. Tide. Roll tide. Love America, and I love the tide. I guess that at his age, realizing there's a new element in, and he don't have the advantage. Y'all can all pay people now?

Yeah, everyone can pay now. Everyone can get cars, everything. It's not about the Roll Tide legacy anymore. It's more about that bag. I think it's going to go back to normal. I think a lot of players who's listening to their parents to go to these schools for this money, once they see their careers is getting messed up, they're going to realize they're going to go back to, you know, going to places that fit them personally. Because, you know, you got two of to the youngest Mikey Williams and the other kid

Leaving Memphis like you should have known you wasn't gonna play there if you just looked at the roster You just look at the roster. I keep chasing these names and instead of chasing the path Where you can fit in that so, you know, it'll be a couple years where you know kids are gonna be going to these But that's what the portals for Right take the money. Do you figure? Oh, I'm gonna go here. I'm gonna go here which So 72 years old we think he's done done. Yeah. Do you see that statue? Yeah Yeah, they got a pie with the cream pies and stuff. I also saw the ripatino joke

I will not mention it on the air here, but very timely very appropriate Open cream pie sailing into the sunset Man so saving like I said seven national championship. It was where he couldn't dunk He didn't do that. No that was the debt It's no different than Bill Russell right yeah? Hell yeah, UCLA didn't want me. Hell yeah, UCLA didn't want me. Brandon, it was a good move for you to have been running. A janky offense.

They said every player that stayed at Alabama for four years wanted a national championship under Nick Saban. I think that's what I've read, which is very impressive. That's very cool. Very cool. So let's move to the NFL. After 24 seasons, the Patriots and Bill Belichick Which is very impressive. That's very cool. Very cool. So let's move to the NFL. After 24 seasons, the Patriots and Bill Belichick decided to shut it down. Belichick won six Super Bowls during his time in New England.

So is Belichick the greatest coach across the four major sports in this generation, or even all time? What? Not all time. No, what? He just had Tom Brady. I was going to say, wait, how did he, he had Tom Brady. He had a Tom Brady. He got what, six rings? Tom Brady.

Oh, Tom Brady. Tom won another one with the Buccaneers, obviously. Right after, right? Next year? So that means we know, so Tom, I mean, yeah, Tom won without him. He didn't win. He's been shit. So is it Patriots culture, Gil, or is it Brady culture?

It's Brady culture, for sure't win, he's been shit. So is it Patriots culture Gil or is it Brady culture? It's Brady culture for sure. Yeah, for sure. And I'm a Patriots fan and it was nice having Tom Brady, but when he left, it got dark quick. And that's the thing, that he gets the credit for the great player, right? Because we see what the great player do. He can go to anyone else and still be great and you...

So you think that's the same with Phil Jackson? Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh. That's what I said. Some guys don't know how to coach bad. They don't know how to coach bad. They only know how to guide greatness. So those rings are Mike rings, and that's Kobe and Shaq's rings. Does he have any outside of those?

No. I mean, those are the things, like, you know, when you start digging under the hood, like, you know, Belichick is 84 and 103 without Tom Brady. That's fair. Right? Tom Brady was great without you. Right? So you're hanging your hat on this right here.

So, like, you don't have it. Like, things are like that it's like are you a great coach or did you just have the one of the best football players ever and you got to sit back and it was easy. Belichick great defensive coach well respected by his. How do we know? What I'm saying is how do we know? How do we know that? And we hit the head Brady. But that defense was holding it down Gil. Defense was holding it down to allow Brady to flirt.

Wait, wait, wait. So he was a, wait, wait. So how does football is what? Defensive coach, offensive coach, and then you got, and then somebody who, and then he does it all. The head coach can be fluent in either one of those sides. So like if you're a good defensive coach and you're the head coach, you let the offense ride out with your coordinator or vice versa if you're a good defensive coach and you're the head coach you let the offense ride

Out with your coordinator or vice versa So so he was the defensive coach. He was a He was coach Brady They work together Be a good defensive coach you got to understand the offense to write I'm just saying I get it so you know So what about pop? What about uh? Steve Kerr I was gonna say that about Pop? What about Steve Kerr? I was going to say that one next.

Steve Kerr. Steve Kerr. I mean, Steve Kerr is a little different because they wasn't championship type of players yet. Okay. Right. They wasn't. So Steve Kerr might be the best. So is Steve Kerr the best coach?

Best coach? In NBA history? Top five? Ten? He history? Top five? You're not top five? I don't know. This is why. What about Red Arbets? No love for Red Arbets?

We're looking at the same team right now. Same champions. They won two years ago. Two years ago. And they said they'd never win without KD and they did. And they won without KD now so what's happening now? I mean we got a recruit Guys are getting older step out here like this staff ain't older. I mean he's older, but he's not playing worse so I mean you you have the same group of guys and you can't get them I

Don't know I mean it's you know coaching is is It depends on your team, too. But, you know, you should be able to have a mediocre team and have them at least in games to win games. Right? Like Detroit, right? They wasn't getting blown out every game. Right? They wasn't getting smashed by 20 to 30 points every game.

They were losing close games, right? So most of that 28, you know, the 29-game losing streak, 15 to 17 of them games was, like, close. That's a good coach. They just ain't figured out how to win it yet at the end. Who's a good coach to you? I mean, Spro's a good coach. Tyloo's a good coach, Gil? Tyloo's a good coach.

Okay. Like, I remember I asked Dante Jones, like, tell me about him. He was like, man, you know. And this is what he said. He said, Tyloo has an advantage because he's not married. And I said, Ty Lue has an advantage because he's not married. And I said, explain. He says, well, he's not married, so he don't have to entertain his wife when he gets home.

He gets to just entertain his sport. So he gets to sit. He said, imagine a single man. He gets to just dive into whatever he's doing. He don't have to worry about no kids. He don't have to worry about his wife. So he spends his time watching games, breaking film down, doing all that like he's still young. So, right, he can adjust really fast. And he said that's what makes him great. That he's a player coach. He understands how to put you in a great position. And he's studied everything. That is an advantage.

Spell if I'm going to tap into a new level now? Yeah. It can go either way. It can go either way. He can come down to the arena with three of them on his arm. Like, yeah, new money.

You never know. You never know, huh? You never know. Based on that logic, Spelman's going to take it up a notch. And finally, we just got to quickly mention

Pete Carroll's out as a Seahawks coach after 14 seasons. Carroll won a Super Bowl. And it should have been, too, if he would have handed the ball off to Marshawn Lynch. But that's neither here nor there. That's why he's not in there. That's neither here nor... That's why he doesn't get much time on the show. And moving on to our next topic.

There is no love lost between former ESPN colleagues Stephen A. Smith and Jason Whitlock. So Smith dropped his new memoir, Straight Shooter, this week. And Whitlock took issue with some of the stories Stephen A. Smith and Jason Whitlock. So Smith dropped his new memoir, Straight Shooter, this week, and Whitlock took issue with some of the stories Stephen A. shared about his life, including how Stephen A. was able to get a scholarship to Winston-Salem State. Here's a clip of Stephen A. telling that story. Winston-Salem State came calling because a former player there was a family friend of mine, and he drove me down for a tryout, and it was the greatest shooting performance I ever had in my life, because I've never done it since, and I there was a family friend of mine and he drove me down for a tryout and it was the greatest shooting performance I ever had in my life because I've never done it since and I never did it before

that but that particular day that tryout I went down to Winston-Salem and I just passed the ball around when coach Gaines put me on the court and coach Gaines blew the whistle and he called me over because he's 6'6", 6'2 he was older. He wasn't about to get up. So he blew the whistle and said, come over here. He said, ain't you supposed to be a shooter? I said, yes. He said, well, God damn it, shoot the ball. And I said, all right.

And I went out there, and I hit 17 straight three-pointers. I've never done that in my life before or after but that day I hit 17 three-pointers straight and he signed me to a scholarship on the spot so I misspoke the memoir straight shooter came out last year Whitlock just very slow to respond is what it is uh so Whitlock called cap on the story uh referring to him as Stephen A. Myth, and also said Smith was an industry plant amongst other high-grade slander. Wow. But on Wednesday, Stephen A. went off on Whitlock on his show, and here are some of the highlights.

You betrayed me. Did you tell the folks that, you bitch? Did you tell them? You fat piece of shit. did you tell him that? And please do not allow this to be a reflection on my character because this is not how I act every day. But I mean it from my soul when I say this is the worst human being I've ever known.

I don't know of another human being worse than Jason Whitlock. Ooh, that hurt. He is a piece of shit. He's the dude that's going to have a funeral and ain't going to be no pallbearers. Might be two people to show up. He's that dude.

He is the absolute worst. And he lies. And he incriminates. And he tries to set people up to fail, to big up himself because he can't do it on his own. He had a television show. He failed. He's had opportunities one time after another. He doesn't measure up. And now he's coming at the big dog. And let me tell you something right now. I am the big dog. I ain't the only one. I ain't the only one. There's plenty. Skip Bayless, apologies to him too

for bringing up Jason Whitlock's name in the same sentence as him. But we all know what time it is. Everyone knows. All the executives at all the networks, they know what a piece of shit he is. And they begged me not to do this. But even my pastor, A.R. Bernard, said,

I'm not happy about it, but every now and then we got to do what we got to do. Imagine Steve and they calling his pastor like, look, I ain't happy, but go ahead and cook that meat. Hey, that hurt. Oh, for sure. Oh, that hurt. Oh, you're the worst human being. Nobody going to carry you out?

Ooh. They're going to carry you out on the funeral? No, because if you know you're a fucked up person, he say that you'd be like you start looking around like yeah I don't know too many people that actually like me. Yeah Well damn, you know, I mean I personally am NOT a Jason Whitlock fan. He'd be talking crazy about women's sports So, okay. I haven't messed with him in a while. Oh annoying It's first time I heard of it. Okay You know, you know, I don't You know, I personally don't know him, but I know sometimes when the motherfucker

fed up, sometimes you gotta lay out the goddamn gun. Oh, so you've never like- The big guns. You've never heard things that he said, spoke about? He's like the- So that's some inflammatory thing. Yeah, I mean, I hear him. I just be thinking this is entertainment, but I've never paid attention to him but I mean I should know I should know he ain't really worth this shit because of you know yeah he supports one of my enemies oh right and I'm like y'all friends then I know y'all awesome dog shit he does support one your hand it was in the

chat the other day I know you want some bullshit now. Whitlock or the person? Was that our chat? No. Mike's teammate's chat. Oh. Yeah, I'm like, man, this is the... You know, you in the pits, nigga? This is the pits. That's how I be, though. This is the pits.

You down here? You calling someone your enemy? That's how I be, though. Because I shouldn't have any, right? I shouldn't have any. My enemy. Yeah, but just the fact that someone... Someone so professional as Stephen A.

Right? Had to do this. That means that shit's been building in for a long time. And the fact that no one's came to the defense of all the people he named. Is that, ouchie. Well, he believed. This person don't like you.

This person don't like you. This person don't like you. This person. They were there putting heart comments by, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. You're right. You're right. Hey, someone's sending money, too. $400. Keep going, champ. $400. Keep going, champ.

$400. Does that raise some nickels right there? Cat Williams has inspired the media to start clapping back. Cat Williams and Stephen A got it cracking. Did Stephen A go too far, though, with the comments? You said he's professional. No. Calling him a bitch.

No, no, he didn't call him a bitch. You bitch. You bitch. Not just the regular one. No, no, he didn't call him a bitch. You bitch. You bitch. Not just the regular one. That's exactly what he deserves. For real? Yes.

He's horrible. The things that he says, the stances that he takes, he's just very hateful. Oh, he's one of those. Yeah. It's like nothing comes from any logic, analytics, nothing. It's like just pure hate and just mean, like some mean little fat man.

Last. He must be that bad. Yes. Look at that. Yeah. We got Lexi, we got Lexi turked up. Don't let me fight, man. We got friendship bracelets and Lexi turked up.

Don't let us fight. That's all she gave me talking crazy. I think one day they put some women's basketball thing on the front page of ESPN. It was like mid-tournament. And he was like, why is this on here? No one wants to see this. He calls people who support women's sports woke. Not just sports fans. Not just sports fans. Not sports fans.

So last question I have for you guys. I didn't watch the whole Stephen A video, but basically Whitlock had called capital on a bunch of things Stephen A Smith said. I think he confirmed some of those things. There's people you can speak to to confirm those things. But you guys are all hoopers. You'll be participating in the first Daniel Gil's Arena Shootout presented by Underdog Fantasy where you will try to make

25 threes five racks do you believe Stephen a Smith hit 17 straight threes in his college trial? Was it a workout or was it a game? So as he explains it, and this is also I think when we're like kind of pointed out So he went up there. I think, late February, early March on a Sunday. Clarence Bighouse Gaines, a legendary coach at Winston-Salem State, was holding a tryout. So he started the tryout, like you said, I was just doing, you know, passing the ball, doing whatever. Bighouse called him over, said, I thought you was a shooter. Shoot that thing. So I don't know if it was in a game, if he just let him line up and shoot. It's been kind of very unclear how that's been presented. But 17, he was like, who was counting? Like, oh oh that's 12 in a row that's 13 in a row he

is 17 well how many do you miss after that like you know or did he just shut it down after 17 walked out like if he was just catching his shoe and that's very possible he thought it was a hand in his face there's I mean he got a scholarship I mean I mean he capping he got a scholarship like purposely left out a lot of details, just very vague. The one that's important. I made 17 threes in a row. Never did it before.

Never did it after. I did it that day. Don't ask anybody about me. I did it right then and there, and it never happened again. You know, we in the black community, we'll put extras on things when we retell stories. I'm just, you know. Black community. But 17. It could have been nine. It could have been 10 but it felt like it felt like whatever it was

got the scholarship he wrote he's handed it to him hey i like what i see nigga son right i mean all that matters we've we've all had out-of-body experiences like all of us like there's been things where we we we can go 20 30 50 60 in a row Just doing it. So yeah, it is possible So let's one more question if Stephen a Smith were to participate in the first annual gills arena shootout presented by underdog fantasy and was given 25 threes will give him college because that's where he said he hit the 17 straight threes college line I think it's a little bit further now. How many? What's his higher or lower? 12. You think 12?

Yeah. Okay. Stephen A., she calling you out. Pull up. She's a shooter. I mean, she's a shooter. I was gonna say, like, last time he shot. I mean, you said high school? No, college. Or college three? Seven.

Wait, I mean... Seven out of 25. Wait, wait, wait. Back when he was in college, hasn't the line moved back? Yeah, it's moved back. That's what I was going to say. Old college? I'll say 7. Give him the high school. We will give him the high school.

I'll say 7. Who makes the spot? 7. Does he get a warm-up? Is he going to pull up his number? He's subject to the same rules as every other participant in the first annual Gills Winter Shootout presented by 100 Open. Who makes the spot?

So, 10. I said 12. Okay, 10. 10. Higher or lower, 10. Stephen A. Smith. the spot. So 10. I said 12. Okay, 10. 10, higher or lower, 10. Stephen A. Smith. Pull up. Respond. Pull up.

January 28th, 2021. That's going to be better than some of them out there. Facts. Because I saw someone go two for 25. I've seen someone make nothing. So speaking of ESPN, Pat McAfee has been getting a lot of heat lately for calling out an ESPN executive for trying to sabotage the show and for having Aaron Rodgers make weekly appearances. Recently, Rodgers alluded that ABC late night host Jimmy Kimmel may be on the Epstein list. He didn't say it. As fact, he just alluded to it. Let me point

that. He may. What's going on on ESPN? You know. Lord. That Disney, it's that Disney fight. That Disney check. Yeah, they fighting over that Disney money. Everybody want to go to Disney World. Kimmel clapped back. Kimmel clapped back basically saying Rodgers was an idiot. Both McAfee and Kimmel, like we mentioned, are under the Disney umbrella. So on his show yesterday, McAfee announced that Rodgers would not be appearing on the show for the rest of the season. He does a weekly thing with Aaron Rodgers called Aaron Rodgers Tuesday.

He said he wouldn't be appearing on the show for the rest of the season. He does a weekly thing with Aaron Rodgers called Aaron Rodgers Tuesday. He said he wouldn't be appearing on the show for the rest of the season. But today, McAfee called an audible and this happened. Joining us now to chit chat about massive names being amicably departed from two teams at a very, very high level. He's a four time NFL MVP and a man who is a Super Bowl champion. Ladies and gentlemen, the last human that Bill Belichick talked to on the field as the New England Patriots head coach, Aaron Rodgers. Yeah. Look, I know you're a fan of elite level trolling.

White people are funny. Hey, that is hilarious. No, what? So he said, you know, he wasn't coming back for the rest of the season, but Rodgers said, I'll see you soon in his last appearance then. See you soon tomorrow. Pulled back up. Oh, my God.

So does Pat McAfee deserve heat for giving Aaron Rodgers a platform on his show? What's better than a well-marbled ribeye sizzling on the barbecue? A well-marbled ribeye sizzling on the barbecue that was carefully selected by an Instacart shopper and delivered to your door. A well-marbled ribeye you ordered without even leaving the kiddie pool. Whatever groceries your summer calls for, Instacart has you covered. Download the Instacart app and enjoy $0 delivery fees on your first three orders. Service fees, exclusions, and terms apply. Instacart, groceries that over-deliver. His resume speaks for itself. Four-time MVP. That's the thing, but this is who you... It's Aaron Rodgers Tuesday.

So when Aaron Rodgers came on your show on YouTube, that's what gave you the staple of it. When you look at all the numbers, when Aaron Rodgers came on, the show got jumping. Everybody came to watch it. So to go to a bit network and then something happens and they say, well, get rid of your friend, right? Get rid of your friend. He's standing on business.

Like, oh, okay, yeah, I'll get rid of him. And then get back on YouTube. We back. That's my dog. That's my dog. You know what I mean? Right? He's not selling out for the corporate dollar.

And I don't even know, I don't even understand why they would even try that. This is not early 90s, early 2000s. This is a whole nother beast. Right. Y'all need him. He do not need you guys. Old media is getting, you're getting wiped out. Right, right.

Right? And he's letting you know, right? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That wasn't on TV. That was on YouTube. I'm just, I just thought, they posted the clip on his Twitter. I was getting prepared for Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. I was like, I do not watch ESPN.

That happened today. That happened today. That was good. January 11th, as you guys know. On a Thursday though. On a Thursday. I was getting ready. Monday night football?

Yeah. Not even on Tuesday. Not even on Tuesday. Active on Twitter, not watching ESPN before the show out of respect for Gil and Underdog Fantasy. Right, nobody even on Tuesday. Not even on Tuesday. Active on Twitter, not watching ESPN before the show. Out of respect for Gil and Underdog Fantasy. Right, nobody had been. I'm preparing mentally for this particular platform. And listen, Disney, Disney, Disney is Disney, and you don't have any control on Disney,

and you got two big pieces. You got him now and Kimbo. That's Mickey Mouse and Goofy at this point. Yeah. Right? Which one is which? We'll let you guys. Mickey Mouse and Goofy at this point. Yeah. Right? Which one is which? We'll let you guys...

Mickey Mouse will be Kimball. Yeah. You know, he's been there the longest. Goofy's like, well, I don't need Disneyland, goddamn it. I'm on my own... Goofy got that dog in him. I'm on my own... I'm about to say the Goofy movie, hard.

And the problem is... Next. The problem is... I love the Goofy movie. The Goofy movie, hard. ESPN can't... ESPN can't, if he leaves or they fire him,

ESPN might be crushed. You fired everyone for him. Right, right. You fired everyone for him. So if he pushed the envelope to get out of the deal, to go back to where he was, what are y'all going to do?

Nothing. Try to find something. Because he went to your audience and he can take your audience with him because his audience is not coming to y'all. Because he's handicapped over there. You said Jimmy Kimmel, so we're going to add that to the list of butcher celebrity

names. Shout out Jimmy Kimmel. But let's talk about another Jimmy. The chat. I know I'm not worse than Charles Barkley Very very very over every close. You're pretty bad. You are you are employers So after Joe says his name and then you immediately cuz I don't be listening to last name who be saying last Everybody do we say my kids can't say my kids Jimmy this is sound like a better better first name. Everybody. We do? We say McKinsey. McKinsey. We always say McKinsey. Jimmy McKinsey.

That just sounds like a better first name. So we go Jimmy. McKinsey. McKinsey. McKinsey. That sounds like a Western hero. It's like it's easier to say. Rashad.

Rashad probably watching the show. Of course. Perusing his work calendar. Not sure what month he's on yet. He's probably. Thank you for the workshop calendar. His big hat. The work with the big boots.

He's probably sitting there on the couch. But we talked about Jimmy Kimball. We got to talk about another Jimmy. Jimmy Butler embodies heat culture, or Spoh culture, as Gil likes to say. But has also said that he doesn't start locking in until after the All-Star break. When reporter Zach Weinberger asked Jimmy Buckets about the 65-game minimum for postseason awards this season, this is how Jimmy responded. What you think?

I think I'm worried about some reward. The only reward that I give a damn is those banners over there. And that's what I told Spoh and told Pat and told my guys that I'm going to help us get. I don't need no end of season reward. So the NBA is a business. Individual awards are directly tied to player compensation. But as Twitter legend John Rivers always says,

winning doesn't matter. We got the tweet. Very timely. But should winning be the only thing that matters to players? Lexi, I'm going to start with you. No. But should winning be the only thing that matters to players? Lexi, I'm going to start with you. No, I mean, everyone has their own aspirations and goals that they want to achieve. So if you want to attach winning to, like Jimmy said, he doesn't care about those postseason awards,

which I feel like that's an excuse for why he doesn't play so many games. Now he's put that out of the universe. He's like, well, I just worry about the postseason, which he's proven the past few years that when postseason and playoffs comes, he's ready to go. But I think you don't have to put that on every player. Every player doesn't play for that. Some players play for stats. Some players play for individual accolades. So if some players care more about winning than others, then that's cool. But if they don't, that's also cool.

Brandon, can you be the only thing that matters? No, the thing that matters is getting that bag first. Then you can go win. I think Jimmy's saying that because he puts so much work in. In the finals, he works out a lot. He puts his body through a lot. For him, he's probably not worrying about awards because he's tasted the finals probably twice already so far. So that's probably where his mind's set at. But the first thing is getting paid.

Fuck that, I'm getting paid. Then we can talk about all the other stuff later. I believe Jimmy Owen, too, in the finals has yet to put a banner there, so I'm sure more motivation. But Gil, I'm curious to hear your opinion on this subject. Should winning be the only thing that matters to players? Either you're a winner or you're not, right? I mean, we all know there's some losers that's won.

There's winning mentalities that hasn't won, right? it's what type of mentality do you have personally right you know uh jimmy's a winner no matter if he if he's oh and 82 there's one thing we know jimmy's gonna do go out there and play hard jim Jimmy's a troll first of all he trolls the NBA He trolls this you say he's not top five or top ten then watch his reaction, right? But there's not been one game because if there is been they would have been posted us already There hasn't been one game where we looked at the game is it old Jimmy don't care Jimmy's just waiting for the playoffs to come so Jimmy can turn it up But his numbers the same right Jimmy goes out there playing and he's gonna play hard. He's gonna practice hard

He's gonna do whatever it takes to get the wins right? He just says it's a troll But do you care about this one? Because if you say you care about these these awards and stuff they use it against you right, oh he's selfish. This is a team game. I don't see when they do first team, second team, third team, it ain't my team up there. That's the player himself. That's not the team. It's the player.

MVP, it's a player. Player of the month. Player. Right? So as an individual, you still have to put yourselves in position to be successful, and that's trying to win. But I've never seen someone work out eight hours a day talking about I'm a loser. Yeah. Yeah. It's just, like, the concept just doesn't make sense to me.

You know, where, you know, I see guys who have championships, and I'm like, you're the laziest motherfucker in the world, man. Right? You had a team. You was the loser on the team. Right? They were carrying you. Your spirit was the losing spirit. These were winners. Four spirit was the losing spirit. These were winners.

Four winners to the one loser, y'all end up winning a championship. But you can't say you're the champion because you got the ring, but you was really a losing spirit. So basically, you're saying everybody who gets an A on the group project isn't necessarily an A-level student. Exactly. That's exactly how it is. You ever been in a group project isn't necessarily an A-level student. Exactly. That's exactly how it is.

You ever been in a group project? I have. And you had to do all the work? I have. And the motherfucker be like, hey, what we do? Oh, I got an A. Like, oh, yeah.

I've done both sides of it. I've done both sides as well. College is a little different. You go ahead and handle all that. Here, I'll slide you in. So you think he's trolling about, like, not caring about awards? I don't think he's trolling about that? I don't think he trolling about that. I really don't think he cares about that.

Yeah, because he tasted the finals. So it's like once you get a taste twice, like I don't think... Let them men not make that All-Star game. Let them not be all NBA. I mean, if he doesn't, I mean, he's still going, but it's not going to take away from him not playing hard. But what I'm saying is, man, the worst thing to do, right, is to work your ass off and don't be rewarded for it. Right? So if he's sitting there doing all this and doing all that

and he don't get the recognition of it, no, he do feel it. Right? Just like when he didn't think Which is an award right your contract? When they wasn't paying him. Yeah, and he was like, well, let me keep let me show you again. Give me the third team Give and I want to play against the first team. I got y'all best player Let me mollywop him and then I'm gonna leave right And the ward is that money you want to be rewarded for his effort, right? It's his trolling because he knows if he does talk about individual type stuff,

he's gonna look, they're gonna frown upon. It's easier for us to look at Jimmy in this light and say, okay, he's a winner because he don't care about nothing but the ring. So let's talk about these postseason awards and this new 65-game minimum. Last season, Jimmy Butler, Giannis, Steph, and LeBron were the four players that didn't play more than 65 games but made all-NBA teams. KD probably should have made it too, but it did not happen. This year, Joel Embiid is having another MVP season,

but is not currently on pace to play 65 games Embiid has missed nine games This season so far if he misses nine more he will be ineligible to win his second straight MVP So Brandon I'll start with you will Embiid hit the 65 game minimum this season. Yeah, no way you're not doing that Yeah, you know he's gonna make it He's in a good stride right now. He's playing well. He'll probably miss a couple more games, but I think he'll make the 65. Okay.

I hope so. Is he playing with fire at all at this point? Yeah. I think so with the trade from James and all the doubt that people were saying. He got a lot to, you know, he's still got a lot to prove. You know, people feel like he just got the MVP because of, you know, they didn't want to give it to Jokic last year.

Lexi, how do you feel about it? I mean, God forbid he actually does suffer some type of injury. That keeps him out for an extended period of time, which I hope doesn't happen. But he no longer has control over that, I think. He's pacing himself for sure. I mean, he's been playing out of his mind. So I think if it's up to him, completely injury-free, he'll get to that 65.

He is the top dog for MVP candidate. He's not going to miss nine games. To lose it on a bike. I got 64 and I'm out of it and I am the candidate. No Yeah, I'm gonna fucking yell, you know hurt ankle. All right, he goes miss this game sub me in. Yeah Yeah, I'll let my second right? Yeah, I'll let my point go down point five today It's secure that do we think we will see any moves like that towards the end of the season?

We're guys who may not want to play just come check in here. Let me Play my ten seconds are whatever I need to technically qualify for playing the game and take my ass right to the building about it Man, like let's say you are the scoring champ, right? You done you done You had you had, exactly 65, right? And there's two games left or whatever, and you really don't want to play it or you haven't been playing it. You're going to check in the two games to secure your listening because whatever your points is,

whoever's behind you is not close enough to get it anyway. So you're going to check in and take you know, take that 0-0, and, okay, I'm not at 35. I'm at 34.2. Fuck it. I'm not going to lose it. I got 35, and then somebody behind me wins it off of a decaf. All right, all right. But you got to make sure that the person behind them

isn't close, right? High-five. Because what if it's like real, real close? You better keep playing. Yeah, you don't want that Shaq-David Robinson joint. That's what happened to Shaq-David Robinson. Shaq had it won and he sat out and David Robinson played and his team was like shit, all you need is about 70-something points.

And we're playing the Clippers, right? And we're playing the Clippers. You got 72. They just gave him the ball the whole game. And that's how you won MVP. No, I'm sorry for scoring chance. I was going up Yeah, so Shaq set out so Shaq set out the game right right so which means wait So we scored 72 points in one game so yes 71 71 against the Clippers April 24th night. Yes, but so shot but think about it Shaq plays That is Shaq scores 10. He has to get to 82.

So Shaq didn't play. So whatever number it was. So his team was like, well, fuck it. Let's go for it. Good for his team. Yeah, they just force fed him that whole game. Great teammates. David Robinson was like that?

He wasn't 71 like that, no. Okay. No. The Admiral, dude. They're giving him the ball to score. They want him to take it over He was good like he was good like what good people give you the ball every time Decent shoes to better in Chris Bosch. We were rocking the David Robinson's at one point in our life

That's so hard to do so you saying you can't go out You can't go out and score 50 right now and they giving you the ball every time to do it. Who was it shooting threes with? It better was She-Wallet. What a matter. They were playing the Clippers, too. I think we need to, again, highlight that. What does that mean? That they were bad? Yeah. It's like playing the Wizards or the Pistons in this day and age.

You're going to go cook. Got it. You're going to go cook. So let's talk a little bit more. If too many stars miss out on awards because of this game minimum, will the NBA be forced to adjust it? NBA sells itself on big-name players if guys start I mean if certain if certain players miss it I mean like right now if Luca Tatum

Mmm a win be a jaw It have to be a significant amount. If the upcoming group that's supposed to take it to the next level, if they end up missing... Because that'd be messing with their money too, right? I mean, if I'm the team,

I don't give a fuck what you do, right? They're still going to pay them. Because I get you at a discount rate. So I don't have to pay you the super max, I They're still going to pay them. Because, you know, I get you at a discount rate, right? So I don't have to pay you the Supermax, I just pay you the regular max, which saves me money. But for the image of the NBA, you got a whole bunch of players that's winning awards and, you know, not MVP, but like...

So what are you saying? All NBA teams and Houston... You don't have to pay those players more than them, right? That's what you're saying. Yeah, so now you know Like, you know, you got this guy who's supposed to be a super match. He's Not the super max, but like somebody like let's say Bane now You got to pay Bane super max when he's not a super max player But because he won all NBA because this all these all these players is out. I

Mean my thing is I mean you're just going to get paid for showing up. What's wrong with that? I mean, and as a fan, I mean, I want to see certain players play over 65 games if I'm paying. I mean, there should be. Like injuries, we can't control that. I get that. But just missing, just to miss is like crazy. Like all NBA, like it's tricky, right?

Scoring title it should be The most points most total points most total point that that's it shouldn't be an average So you don't you at this point you don't need 65 games You don't need any of that because it's total points now if a motherfucker got 65 games and this dude got 82 and 65 games has more total points. Right. Then they should win. Then he won. Right, right, right.

Right, but that's rare. Right, that's rare. That shouldn't happen anyway. So, as long as you start putting everything at fucking totals. Mm-hmm. If you put it at totals then you would have to worry about assist rebounds everything everything should be at totals then you don't have to actually worry about how many games a person plays because if i have a 35 point average but i've missed so many games and dude behind me is averaging 31 and he has more points now that that forces me okay but so they should still have a minimum though right you don't need a minimum for the total because it's just totals at the end because

totals is at this point is you know it can be this person's averaging 25 right but he's played every game you averaging 35 but you only played 65, my total's higher. This is about scoring champ. So guilty. But there should be some type of minimum, though, because if you play less games and score points. You know how many points you have to score to catch something? Let's say you played 65 games and I played 82. I probably have 1,800 more points than you.

You would literally have to average. If I have 25, you would literally have to average about 34, 35 a game. I like that. Just to compare. Yeah, totals. I like totals at the game. I like that. Just the... Yeah, totals. I like the totals at the end. I like totals. So Gil, to your point,

the scoring title... It's going to be some random awards. So the scoring title was originally determined by total points, and that went on through the 68-69 season,

after which points per game was used to determine the leader instead. So that means somebody who... Then somebody who averaged... More than who averaged more than the total points and it was like, oh no, we need this because this is more important.

So what year was that, you said? A 68, 69. Jerry West? You know. Jerry West? I don't want to say anything, but it was Jerry West.

No, I'm just saying it felt a little, I don't know who it was. It felt a little white. Yeah, it probably was Jerry West. No, it probably was Jerry West. I don't want to jump to conclusions though

and get packed up. Can research team? It definitely was Jerry West. No, it's probably with Jerry West. I don't want to jump to conclusions, though, and get packed up. Can research team? It definitely was Jerry West. Who complained? I'll be pushing narrative research. Let's look at the most points and see who... Come on, big. Narrative.

Who had the highest... What's the name? But it should always be like that. Everything should be in totals, right? So last question for you guys on this topic while they look that information up. Here's the other side will the 65 game minimum hurt older stars and fast track young stars and is that good for the league to now push younger players by elevating them and making them all nba level guys no because everyone's everyone's missing games right i don't even know if it's necessarily on the players at this point.

Right? I think the teams are arresting their players to keep them longer. Like, I'd rather have you for, instead of back in the day, nine, ten years, I'd rather have you for 15, 17. The only way I'm going to do that is take games from you. Yeah, but you see players complaining, like, I'm healthy. Miguel Bridges was complaining about that. Yeah, we're going to rest you there. What the fuck for?

I'm healthy. I want to play. That's what I'm saying. Like, just up your training then or your facility. Everybody should be taking what LeBron did then. If that's the case, why we got to miss? He don't miss games. Like, he ain't out here...

Like, you know what I'm saying? I think LeBron James, maybe this is just me just throwing. You know, I don't usually just throw spaghetti out there, just do it. This might be the reason that they're doing it. If you looked at his last six, was it six years? Yeah. He's played about 50, 60 something, 65 games. Remember, I was like, man, if he would have just played his normal, he would have had the scoring title about three, four years ago. Yep. And I think watching him come back every year with this energy is if you add it back up he would have

probably been done two years ago so to your point gilson 2018-19 lebron played uh 55 games 2019 67 games 2020 45 games 2021 30 uh 56 games 2022 54 games last season oh dang see that's what i said it's it's like he's been taking about 20-something or 55 games last season. But also, you got to go to his training, though. His training has helped him, though. Yeah, but what I'm saying is... Like, all these guys getting money now, they should be trying to do what he did to even get to that level.

So instead of missing games, actually take care of your body. No, but I said I think that... But he didn't start doing that until later, obviously, too. No, he started doing that. No, no, no. I'm talking about missing... He started doing that in Miami, obviously, too. No, he started doing that. No, no, no. I'm talking about missing the games. Oh, missing the games. Think about it.

As much as he works on his body, he's still taking these games. Well, I mean, eight straight finals. That's what I'm saying. I mean, God damn. That's what I'm saying. He's making them. But that's what I'm saying. It's like he's making it up now. And I think as a business itself, as the, like, forget the,

forget the, the idea of winning the idea of championships as a business owner, right? Mm-hmm. Do you want this entity for eight, 12 years or 20 years, right? Think about LeBron James. If you can rewind him back, right, and you're gonna say, okay, he's gonna be one of the greatest. Do you want him playing 82 games for 10 to 12 years, or do you want to spread it out for 20 years, right?

As a business, I wanna milk this name for 20 years. It depends on the player. I mean, she could be cold. 365 is too... 20 years, I get them for 20... 365 is a good number. I mean, she could be cold. Shit, I mean, cold played that long, too.

I mean, it just depends on what type of player you are, though, and how bad you want it. I'm talking about a business. Do you want the name that you can milk the name for 12 years or 20 years? I mean, it depends on what your goals are. Kobe Bryant came into the league winning at 23. I'm not talking about winning. I'm talking about you as the owner of the business.

You are bus. You get to sell this Kobe name. You get to sell it for as many years as you can possibly get. So that means you're going to want him to last as long as possible. Yeah. Your legacy is built off of him. I mean, he can miss some games, but if we hit it...

But even the back end of Kobe's last two years, when they were 17 or 16 or whatever, people were just coming to games and they were selling that. They didn't care about what the score was going to be. I just want to see Kobe in his uniform. Oh, for sure. Now, what if you were to save some games

in his early years to get six more years of that same person? He ain't thinking that. I'm not talking about him. I'm talking about Buss. But Buss ain't going to be able to get Kobe to do that. So you ain't going to be able to get Kobe to sit down. Kobe ain't thinking about sitting down.

His legacy was going to end the way it was going to end like that. So it don't matter if Buss was like, yo, Kobe, sit down. I'm not sitting down. But that's what the teams are doing now. The teams are doing it now. That's why their teams are trash, too. And that's why it's a lot of bad basketball, too, though. Probably. Because a lot of guys are just sitting out. It's like,

nah, play. We're not talking about the product itself. The product is like, I mean, that's what I'm saying. I'm talking about from the business standpoint that I know you don't want to sit out, but I don't give a fuck what you want right I want you longer right so if I can instead of playing 82 and I got I got you know the AI method you playing 82 games 40 fucking minutes a game and doing all that and then I run you down to the

point where you're not playing years and years and years. And when I do my calculation, I'm like, shit, it was better off just having you 50 to 60 games every year for 20-something years. That means my building is sold out every game to just see a glimpse of you. Are you starting these players doing this? Or are you giving them a few years to play as many as they want? So, Luka, you're going to sit Luka down? These guys are only playing 30-something minutes. There's a reason.

There's a reason. Steph Curry. People don't realize. Steph Curry, this man didn't. There was like, what, 40-something games he wasn't playing in the fourth quarter. That's resting. You're resting. Yeah, but look at the resume.

But then, like, I don't know. I just don't want to be in a position where I got a Ben Simmons. I got to sit there and it's like we've been resting them and all this. And now it's like now you spoon-feeding these guys. Like, these guys don't even want to play basketball. It's like all this resting is taken away from actual basketball. But now what if three years from now you get Ben Simmons ten more great years? Right?

Nobody's looking at he ain't played in the last four years. So that means what if you get in the back end as a business? You know that's not happening, Gil. But that's You know that's not happening.

The mentality That's what their calculations are looking at. And it's wrong. Kevin Durant's still going hard? Steph Curry's still going hard? They're training. It's the training, though. One thing about, you always say working hard, right?

Like putting in the effort, like putting in the time. You just said, Steph was overseas in Saudi Arabia. Them guys, them are different type of elite guys. So it's like, they not sitting back, tasting the champagne, and then all of a sudden, I'm going to just chill? Nah. That ain't the mentality champions have, for sure. It ain't about them. I'm telling you, you're going to take the day off.

No, for sure. No, they'll take a day. But it's like. I'm telling you, take the day off. But right now, yes, they can. Right now in their career, they can. These young guys, hell no. Before, look at Steph's minutes back then.

It was her, the angle though. You know how we're talking about, like about Joker need to play 40-something minutes, why aren't these guys playing? And then when you sit back and look at it from the standpoint of, if you can do it in 30 minutes, do it in 30 minutes so I can sit you down. We got a game tomorrow. So instead of me playing a back-to-back and I pulled in 80 to 90 minutes, right, of play, they pull in 60. 80, 90 minutes, 60, 60.

That means I'm playing on the same, we both played eight games, but he feels like he done played four to my eight. He's only playing four games to my eight games, but we both played eight. And that's what it seems like the calculations is looking like. Right? So that's what I said. At this point, it seems like they're still taking data. Like when I hear, like, I scored 70 points, and then he got drug tested. Right?

I don't look at it as you're looking for something in a sense where I'm trying to catch you. I think they're collecting data to see what's going on, right? And if we can implement it later in life, give them supplements that can mimic this. Because one thing that'll look stupid in any sport is if history has happened and you, as a franchise or organization or entity, called it out. Devin Booker scored 72 and then you drug test him to expose anything. Oh, he was caught on this. That messed up your history as the sport. So that's why you haven't seen anything ever come out on those tests.

It would be the dumbest thing in the world to test a 70, 71, 72, and then say they were on drugs. It hurts them, but it hurts you too, because that's part of your legacy as a franchise. So I'm doing the test to see, okay He was on this he was on this he was also these three people's on the same thing How do we how do we get this? Normalized so we can keep this party moving Yeah, would you have listened to the front office that they asked you to sit some games in the interest of longevity when you? were playing No, it's easy for me to say that

shit now but no no that's what i'm saying yo you're too much of a competitor i mean it's it's easy for me to say now later i mean you take away like your injuries and stuff like later in your career you would sit after starting off playing a lot scoring a lot of points and now you're later in your career i i think if it was one of those things we sat down and it was explained to me, right? This was explained to me, like, and it made sense. Then maybe, right? But just to do it, nah.

I mean, I... What's up, OG? I can't imagine. I can't imagine. a pop it up. Another guess. Oh, boom. It's in the building. We got we're not going to blow his spot up.

He just pulled up. He doesn't get the doorbell. And we talk about you just came to hang out. Yeah, but yeah, we got the building, though. See, but that's what I'm saying. Like, at that time, you're not thinking that because you're in that mode. Like, you're not thinking, you know, I got to rest. Like, you're trying to kill.

Right. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's just a different level. Like, the young guys now, they're getting told not to play. Like, we've never been told not to play. Like, we've been told play. Like, leave it all on the floor. Like, that's what I'm saying.

Because we don't think about the business of it, we just think about the playing in real time, right? Now, and this is what I said, they will have to have explained it to me. And if it sounded like this, right, there's like, all right, plan Right you will have 12 to 13 great years, right? Yeah now if You if you only play about 65 games we dial your minutes down, right? You can last about 18 years now in that 18 years

you done maxed out three times, right? Because the max is the max. So if you're still averaging the same amount during this timeframe, you're going to max. Usually your body's going to die out here and then you'll be underpaid. But I can keep you maxed for three years. So instead of making $171 million, you can pull out $400 million. But you have to play 32 to 35 minutes now, play about 65 games, and then we can maximize. That might be the conversations that's going on.

And only certain players... That can keep you maxed longer. And that's why I said the bag first. I said the bag now is the 65 games, all right, you're not... I'm not saying you're not a winner, but if it's 65 games or whatever we got to get to, alright, well, I'm thinking about the bag. Let's get to 65. Yeah, 65.

You can max out a couple times. Yeah. Yeah. Alright, well, let's keep this thing moving. Time for another edition of Facts or Cap. Uh-oh. So I'll give you a topic, then ask you a question, and you tell me if it's facts. Facts.

Is this new? Or cap. Yep. Stop the cap. Yesterday. You're not the cap. Stop the cap. So during a recent episode of the Podcast Pete Show, Paul George had this to say about

how Embiid is dominating the league. You can't stop him. He's too big. He's agile. He can shoot. He can step out from the three-point line. He's just a big body. He's our generation and our version of Shaq.

There's nobody we can put on Shaq. Right, right. Bro, there's nobody you can put on Joel. Okay. We got a very special guest that pulled up to the arena. Legend, my favorite point guard to ever come out of the city of Los Angeles. Where's he sitting? You know.

Black Santa. Black Santa. You Wish Academy. Bear Davis. Welcome to Gil's Arena. What's up, BD? What's up, boy? It's all good.

Oh, man, I didn't mean to step on your shit, bro. We can buy another one. We can buy another one. I didn't break it. No, no, you didn't. Goddamn. No, I. Damn. No, that's our second one. What's good? We appreciate you obviously, you know you wasn't expecting to come on the show, but that's how we do it, man I'll be watching you all the time. This shit fire. It's good to be plugged in. That's my guy right there. That's my guy. I was kind of like overwhelmed walking in, like, God damn.

First I thought I was driving to Vegas. Then I get in this motherfucker. I look like I'm in Vegas. This shit fire, though. Congrats, y'all. Yeah, I watch y'all. Y'all been putting y'all shit down. Oh, dang it. Dang it. Appreciate it. So we appreciate you. We got some NBA topics we're going to discuss if you want to participate. Lacey don't got a friendship bracelet for you. I do.

You have a friendship bracelet for me? You knew he was coming? No, I got two extra. I made them for everybody. That's hard. We're doing a segment called Facts or Caps. I'm going to ask you a question. I'm going around the group and see if it's facts or caps.

PG saying Embiid is our generation's version of Shaq. BD, we'll start with you. You are? Humble guess? For you. Embiid. My name on it, though. Don't throw nothing at me, girl.

No, I'm just playing. I'm just playing. I thought it was throwing some side pass kids. I see this fool with all his goddamn candy over here. No, they ain't even got my name on it. Did it come from you? She made up. I can make you a black pan of wine.

All right, I'm just fucking around. So PG saying Embiid is our generation of versions of Shaq. You say facts. Yeah, facts. Okay. Why do you feel that way? Well shit Yeah Embiid is unstoppable Like he he he outside of Jokic and different than Jokic He gonna he gonna bully you he don't mind

You know joke, it's, he gonna bully you. He don't mind, you know, using brute force to get to the basket, you know what I mean? And he got the finesse game, he got mid-range game, he got three-point game. And when you look at today's centers, they're not, nobody's shoulders that wide, you know what I mean? Even like a Brooke Lopez, who is still a traditional big dude, like Giannis is bigger than, taller and bigger than Brooke. So I think for Embiid, it's like he is the most dominant as far as like this era.

And I don't see anybody that I can really guard. I like to see him and Jokic match up, but I don't see nobody that I can guard him. So Brendan, PG saying Embiid is our generation's version of Shaq. Facts or cap? Cap. Why is it cap? Shaq was just dominant.

He just dominated through the whole league. He won championships. I mean, MVP multiple times. I mean, just unstoppable, like the Superman. I mean, it was something that we can't, we would never be able to see ever again in basketball to me. So that's why I called Cap. And he plays on the perimeter.

Yeah. But our version, so it's a modern. Why he has to be, but why he has to be our version? Why can't he just be in B? Okay. Like now you're kind of rewriting what Shaq was, and that was the dominant force on the inside. Like, in B, he's from all over.

But Shaq had Kobe, though. That's true. But I don't think... I've never in my mind been like, oh, he reminds me of Shaq. So are you saying Cap? Yeah, Cap. Okay.

So we got two Caps, one Facts. And we not hacking in BD. I understand what he's saying. I understand what he's saying. I understand what he's saying. He's saying that Shaq was unstoppable. Correct. Right? No one can stop him.

And that's Embiid for us, right? In our league, the one person that we can't stop is Embiid. And I can see the the comparison but the difference is uh mb's he's probably tasted a double at some point but full we was full motherfuckers was guard shaquille o'neal and it's just that's the only difference here is there was for Garden Shack trying to stop him versus just the one-on-ones matchups, and I don't think that this this generation understands that Back in when they first put the zone and stuff in We was getting double-team for real because then we didn't have yeah, right

We there wasn't all shooters where you couldn't guard you was doubling a I went through double-team Kobe went through quadruple team. So when you talk about well, his percentage was 42. Yes 42 on four people Yeah, it's like right. It wasn't 50 on one. It wasn't 56 percent on one person It was 42 on four human beings. That's the difference, right? They put a zone in for him, right? It was a zone created. We need promoting more shooting, but it was just, we want to put more people in.

Yeah, we got to get him out the paint. Yeah, we got to get him out the paint. And the hackers hack. Get him off the court. I mean, you know what I mean? Get this nigga off the court. Get him off the court. He changed the game. He changed the court. I mean, you know what I mean? Get this nigga off the court. Get him off the court.

He changed the game. It was, you know, so I get the concept of what he's saying, but it's two different, those are two different people. But does Embiid deserve a little bit more credit? We talked about this, I think, last week, shooting like 80% from the free throw line. Like, you can't do the stuff that you were doing to Shaq. Like, Shaq, that was the one way you could neutralize his game

with the hack of Shaq. Lead had to change rules, basically. Where Emb're in B. You sent me the foul line. Well for us but the prop for us if If there was no hack of Shaq and he shot 40% then Then what do we even come into the game for? We playing the Lakers. I mean we good. We'll just skip this plate Clippers or something because like our chance was Yeah She got it's only chairs foul as well fuck good start

So yeah Yeah You gotta keep him out of paint or make him shoot jump hooks all night and that shit ain't happening like you'll start and center Go ahead three fouls in the first half. Well period We play so we serious Backups here like well tonight's my night You got either they were drafting people on the team specifically to be Six fouls when they play Shaq. You know what I mean? They got 18 total fouls.

Who says that, bro? That's real good. You did. Think about it. Your whole scheme with Shaquille is to foul him or try to get... Because you couldn't play defense on him. There's no defense

for it. Once he comes down there and posts up, foul. Make him shoot free throws. And he wasn't even a great shot blocker. But on defense, he was just so goddamn taking up all the goddamn space. Like, I ain't going in there. If he sling and miss and accidentally hit me, dog,

I'm out. 30 dog, I'm out. I'm out for 30 games. I'm cool. You know what I mean? So it wasn't like, oh, you're not going on there trying to dunk on Shaq. Even like, it wasn't like he was Ben Wallace blocking shots and pinning shit or Lazo Mourning. He was just standing there like, all right, cool. I'm cool.

I'm cool. Business decision. You know what I mean? It's a life decision. I tried to dunk on Shaq. He said, bro, if you ever do that again, I'm going to break your fucking legs at UCLA. I was like, all right, cool, bro.

Like, I had my chance. I thought I had him, too. That shit boss on the back rim, he was like, yo, you do that again, I'm going to fuck you up, break your legs. Not even in the season. You ain't got a chance. No, no, no, no, no.

This is a very important statement you just made, right? Mm-hmm. Guards were scared to go in the lane because the shack's down there, right? You hit me, I'm out for 30 games. The people who did go in there got hammered. Yeah. If you're a guard defender

and you're Derek Fisher in there, defense becomes easier now, don't it? Oh my gosh. They look like NBA defenders because we can't go nowhere because the place we want to go is forbidden. Hurts. Man, you can't even see the rim.

It's like all these motherfuckers just around. You know what I mean? I got to shoot jumpers all day so it'd be easier for you to guard me now because there's one place I'm not going. And you know I'm not going there. Going up in there. Yeah. Nah, nah. Let me go ahead and shoot a jump shot.

And a hacking. And you know what I mean? So Derek Fisher, that's why Kobe, like Derek Fisher and Kobe was hacking on the perimeter. Eric Snow hacking on the perimeter. But when you got Mutombo and people like that, you can play the jumper. You're not scared to get crossed and somebody hit a shot. Like you got to, we got to be in rhythm on the perimeter. Like, it ain't going to, oh, let me get this and one layup.

Oh, I'm about to beat him, get a quick layup. It's like, oh, shit, nah, uh-uh. This dude going to come take my head off. You know what I mean? He going to come close on me. And so Derek Fish and them got to hack, play aggressive, slap at the ball. You know what I mean? Close out strong.

And it looked like, oh, these guys are great defenders. But it's like, man, you got the ball, you know what I mean? Close out strong and they look like, oh, these guys are great defenders, but it's like, man, you got a wall behind you. You can do whatever you want. You know what I'm saying? Picking up full court, because he knows you ain't, what are you going to do? I'm going to pick you up full court,

where you going to backdoor me and go to who? Like, oh, because you deny me and I've got the backdoor code. But who down there? Good. You deny me and I've got the back door cold. But who down there? Um, good. You see Shaq left? Oh, you got snow reinforcements. Yank 60. Because you ain't got Shaq back there no more.

Now I get to really go past you because you ain't got nobody back there now. So it feels like we got a pretty much. We got a majority rule. I heard that. Oh, Shaq. Oh, Shaq. Oh,... 60. We got a majority rule. I heard it. I heard that. Oh, Shaq. Oh, Shaq. Oh, Shaq. You got Binum.

Oh, Binum ain't nothing. Oh, you got Binum. Yeah. So PG saying Embiid is our generation's version of Shaq. I feel like majority rule says cap. Stop the cap. Okay. Let's keep this thing moving.

We got two former Warriors on this couch. We also have a man who cooked the Warriors in his time. That's right, three quarters. Okay. Yeah, shout out Rico, so you get the fucking shit. He want to ask Dart. He want to ask Dart if he better than me. Go ask Rico.

I mean, we can ask him. Yeah, all right. What will happen? He said he would have locked me up in high school. No, I told him pound for pound I'm better than him up in high school. No, I told him, pound for pound, I'm better than him. In high school? No, just leading up. Oh, high school, skip that.

College, NBA. Whatever, I got hurt. Two times, I got hurt. Oh, first of all. And if I never get hurt. And if I, I mean, you know, it's another L.A. I mean, I feel like I'm better than both of y'all. But whatever.

Whatever. This is my OG. Y'all my OG Oh geez. Yeah. Oh geez. What's so what y'all here now? We here we here Hey, bro, you know you was on the plane, you know, he was on the plane headed in the wrong direction on the first day What Man you were like, baby. Listen. Listen. I came into the league. I was starting point guard inside got hurt I would have never came. I was never I was never Your pathfinder. You're a pathfinder. No. Pathfinder. I'm pound for pound. You ain't even a navigator.

I'm pound for pound. I'm pound for pound. I started it. I played at Dominguez, bro. I went to a powerhouse school, and then I went to another powerhouse school. Now you went to Oak Hill. You ain't even from here.

We can't even talk to you. What are you talking about? Stop. Don't do that. No, don't do that. No, don't do that. No, no. Don't pull my LA card.

Don't pull my LA card. Don't pull my LA card. No, don't pull my LA card. Don't do that. No, no, no. Don't put my L.A. card. Don't put my L.A. card. Don't put my L.A. card. No, don't put my L.A. card. Give it to me. If you spent your senior year of high school here, you can have an argument. No, no, no. That's your problem. That's your problem.

You went to a powerhouse so you didn't get double-teamed. I did get double-teamed. No, I did not. I did not. Oh, you didn't? No, no, no. Oh, you didn't get double-teamed? You got all them superstars with him. You went with Tyson Chandler. No, I did not. I did not. Oh, you didn't? No, no, no. No, you didn't get double team. He got all them superstars with him. He got all them superstars.

They get to play one-on-one. Oh, and Oak Hill? I don't know what one-on-one was in high school. I really thought the game was one versus the five. Gilbert versus Silmar. Gilbert versus Van Nuys. It was not the great versus that. One versus five.

Hey, yo, let's ask Rico this. If we went up to UCLA, which one is better out of all three of you? You can pick whatever five y'all want. Ask Rico that. You better. No, ask Paul Pierce. With no cameras. With no cameras.

I was in there with Paul Pierce and BD. You wasn't in there at that time. Tenth grade. Bro. Cooking niggas. You asked Paul. I was on a team with him. The score is 7-6.

I had 7. He asked me, hey, who is you? Why are you shooting the balls all the time? I wasn't passing it to the NBA players. You was a passer, bro. You gotta ask Dart. Because Dart will tell you about Gilbert Arenas, bro. Dart used to call me and be like, hey,

BD, I'm telling you, Gil, he on his way. He on his way. I'm like, man, who Gil? He's like be like, hey, BD, I'm telling you, Gil, he on his way. He on his way. I'm like, man, who? Gil? He's like, yeah, Gil, Lil Gil, Gil from the Valley. I'm like, nah, man, he nice like that? He nice like that, Dart?

He's like, man, he nice, Dart? He nice, Dart? Man, he nice like that, Dart? He coming for you. Two weeks later, man, that nigga Gil, he out here. He tearing your, he got sold out crowd. Shit like, he coming for your neck. I'm like, man, shit, let me go see this nigga play.

He would have got you. He would have got me? That's crazy. He would have got you. You were little, man. You were ridiculous, though. You, like, I remember him at eighth grade when I remember I had the NBA. See, see, look NBA look we not even talk

Let's go back now. We were not It's how good I've been in eighth grade He was killing all the college dudes all the pros when we had the Baron Davis can't in Orange County this dude was eighth grade Lance all them dudes is there it was you and that huh? Yup, and then I was on your team. Just me and Lance. Lance was in the seventh. I was in eighth. I was in the seventh. Y'all too.

That's how good. These two dudes going to the league. I remember like me, dog. Like that's, that's... We was big dogs, man. We was big dogs, man. We came in with big bodies, bro. You was still little.

You still little right now, man. You was little, man. You probably weighed one. We got friendship bracelets on. We got friendship bracelets on. That's crazy. You was a nice guy. He was good. He was fast. He was good.

He was fast. He was good. He was fast. He was good. He was fast. He was good. He was good. He was fast.

He was good. He was fast. He was good. He was rim. I was going between the legs. You probably didn't get posted. I got posted up. Well, you was too little. I got BD coming down the balcony. You started looking around like, who? Wait, wait, wait. Kenny Bruner would have picked you up for him. Nah, nah, nah. Too small, too small, too small. He would have backed you down.

He would have backed him down. Kenny Brunner is Patrick Beverly Like we go with the LA who's discussions all day, but let's take it up more for the second time He doesn't try this shit, man I got a whole I got a whole app error in the 25 to 34 right now They love me if you to came in see it came in tonight and done. Here's the thing you didn't go When you was in LA you have to go to everybody school whether you played them or not And you have to show up there and be like what's cracking the best deal? What's cracking? You didn't do that

No, I have to go do you in the Virginia Santa Monica everybody's school. I left Dominguez because I was bored. The competition was... No, no, no. Don't do that. You want me to play again? You left Dominguez because Dominguez is in Compton and it's a fucked up school. Yeah, I mean, but still, the competition was bad. I'm running from the cops! Shout out to all my D-Hype folks.

Great people come out of D-Hype. Tykes and Chyna, Tykes and Alfred. Running from the cops. Shout out to all my D-Hot folks. Great people come out of D-Hot. Shout out to Tyler. Tyler, run it from the top. After that, it gets tricky. It gets tricky. Quality start going down for people, dog. Sorry, my bad.

We didn't work with the NBA, man. You came in our area, man. We was cooking you. We didn't have to worry about you because, look, I'm going to tell you right now, you scored 55, right? Yeah, in three quarters. Yeah, three quarters. What happened after that? We went to the playoffs.

What did your teammates do to you? What'd they do, ice me out? What'd they do, ice you out, right? Yeah, they iced you out, right? Okay. They couldn't do that to me. They couldn't do that to me. We made the playoffs. They got playoffs, cool.

We made the playoffs. Playoffs, cool. Eight years out. Who Who gonna belong you that's what's up you baby see TNT games because of me regular No, no, I used you know you know I'm Dahmer. Oh, no No through the one full flat. Oh, no, I would have won the game, but I would have gave you 30 No, and then we're 15 is said no No, no, no But I would have gained you 30. No. You didn't have your little 15 and 7. No. You didn't have your little 15 and 7. No. No. No.

When we matched up, you look at our matchups, it was matched up. Hey, you had 28 on. What you had, 28 in the first half? Yeah, I was a 34. I don't know if I got 28. He was playing on Golden State. And they was like, man, you know, you got to watch Gil. You got to watch Gil.

I was like, man, come on. you got to watch Gil. You got to watch Gil. I was like, man, come on. And they got 18 in the first quarter. And then when you look up, you're like, damn, what did this nigga, what was he doing? Nigga was just shooting. Like, damn, BD. 18, 28. No, I know y'all not. Maxie, would you cook all of them in your high school day?

The Hooper of me will say yes, but realistically... Okay, respectfully, how much you average in high school? I don't remember. So that wasn't a lot. Average 35 in one season and scored 1,500. At Oak Hill, the fuck they talking about who scored? What, Nat right now? Yeah.

I watched her play the past weekend. She's tough. She's real tough. But I get her on the conditioning right now. I just run around. Just run around. Because you're tired. Let's talk a little bit about these Warriors.

Warriors dropped another home game. You've seen me in high school. I just thought about this. He played against you in high school. I know. Shh. I just hope not. I just thought about that.

I just thought about that. I just thought about that. I just thought about that. I just thought about that. I just thought about that. I just thought about that. I just thought about that. I just thought about that. I just thought about that. I just thought about that. I just thought back to you or nothing. I just gave back to you or nothing. I just gave back to you or nothing. Wait, BD, I said.

BD, I just gave back to you or nothing. BD, you know you said. Wait, you said that. You know about the Rover Press. Yeah, you know. When I walked through the Rover Press, he was dead. Coast to coast. He did.

Coast to coast. Wait, Joe. What'd you say? You said it's under your breath. He did what? Gave Chris Shaw 43 quarters. They got smacked, though. But I remember why.

I'm like, who is this dude from fucking Grant going coast to coast on Rover? Because I'd also seen you go against that press as well. Obviously, you did a great job as well. But coast to coast on Rover. Had Coach Doug, Coach Wes out there like, who is this dude? This is the press everybody talking about. I was a track runner. So I was just fashioning everybody.

Coast to coast on Rover, but let's talk about these Warriors. Warriors dropped another home game in embarrassing fashion Wednesday night, getting smacked by the Pelicans and booed by fans for the second straight game. They got booed? They got booed. Back to back boings. Damn. So you see Steph on the bench. He was visibly upset. And after the game,

Klay said he isn't losing any sleep over the fans' frustrations. Steph was a little more critical of the team and the fans' disappointment, saying, I'm booing myself. It's our job to give them something to cheer about, and we have not done that. Warriors are 2-6 in their last eight games, 17-20 on the season, holding down the 12th spot in the West currently. So Steve Kerr recently said that Steph is carrying too much of the burden. And Steph had this to say about the state of the Warriors. We have a standard that's pretty evident that if things stay the same, you know, that's the definition of insanity, right? Keep doing the same thing, expecting a different result. So as players and what we can do, we have to control our effort,

our focus, competitiveness, control the things that we can't on the court. Like every NBA season, every organization, that stuff works itself out, and you can't allow yourself to get distracted by that because whether you're at the top of the standings or at the bottom, there's always rumors swirling.

There's always conversations and it's just a part of the business. And until anything happens, you can't get caught up in it because it would rob you of your opportunity to play good basketball. And that's kind of where we're at.

See Steph fashion now? See him dressing. I was gonna say the way he dress is you know similar to an R&B group like he got his R&B vibe also. Speaking of carrying the team, carrying the R&B group, you know, it's hard for the lead singer when the backups, you know what I mean,

and your sidekick ain't really coming with them harmonies. Nice like this. You know what I mean? So when I have your beard out and the fro,

and he look like a 70s R&B singer, I'd be worried if I'm one of his teammates because we ain't in step, baby. The band ain't moving right. The backup singers ain't looking looking right and Steph coming in here So today Gil you've been saying this but

Today a report dropped that everyone on the Warriors, except for 30, is available to be moved. So, Lexi, I'm going to start with you. Who are the Warriors' best trade assets right now? Because it seems like it ain't anyone but 30. I don't even know. I mean, I'm just, this is really, and I'm not a Warriors fan, but I really enjoyed watching them play when they were winning all those championships. And them going out like this is, like, really sad. And very unexpected, I think, at least for me.

But, again, I think this is really the first time this team, since they started winning, has really had some real adversity. All these rumors. And you would think, like, they would be able to handle it because they're all veterans, they're all older. But, like, she mentioned it in media like it's it's messing with them like the rumors the trades all that kind of stuff yes you know words fans very talkative very chatty during this dynasty yeah that tuna shit had to come

to my biggest haters funeral just to make sure that nigga was dead. Yeah. Yeah. It's gonna be this orange. Hey. Hey. All right, Joe. I know one thing that they would've never got booed in Oakland. I know they would've never got booed in Oakland, shit. They gonna- They'd appreciate it, that end.

Yeah, them Oakland- They been cheering too, guys. We lost two in a row. We ain't going back. Man, that's 17 years, bro. Shit, you was- No, we was- Hey, bro, that was 17 years, bro. Shit, you was... We was bad.

We was bad if we got cheered every game. The only person they used to fuck with was Mike Dunleavy, though. That was wild as shit. And now he's over there. Oh, head coach or son? Dunleavy Jr. Junior.

Now he's over there GMing. Because he was from Duke, you know what I mean? Yeah. But it was, Duke, you know what I mean? Yeah. Fucking Duke. But it was, I mean that's, because their legacy is Golden State and, I mean Oakland, so they appreciate those championships more to the point where they know that we lose two, we lose three, it's okay. We're not going to be that type of group that's going to just disrespect.

Like, we don't, you didn't put three banners in this bitch. Well, it's a sense of entitlement, too. No, three in Oakland. Yeah, three in Oakland. It's a sense of entitlement when you think about it. Like, because now you won all these championships. You moved to San Francisco. You have success.

And now they think that, now the new new fans is like this is what we expect every year but they don't know what real expectations is and since you moved to San Francisco it's been more drama you know what I mean and less about the destination and the hoop so you know from Jordan Poole to Draymond from Draymond to now youaymond to now, you know, Kaminga. And, you know, like the Warriors, I think they were trying to focus on getting better, but they never, like, gave Steph reinforcement. Kavon Looney, like, you know what I mean? Like, these people are not just Draymond.

These people are integral. Like, why haven't you gone and get a dope point guard that Steph can groom, that can play a one or two or even a three, a big point guard? Why don't you get a big dude to preserve Kevon Looney? Because you can't find another version of him for what he do for you. But they've been trying to increase their wing capacity and their scoring capacity, Kaminga, Moody, you know, signing the other kid with the pro,

you know what I mean, the rookie dude. And it's like you're complimenting all the wrong shit instead of like the point and the center position because those were your staples and your foundation, you know, in winning championships.

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So we got two two former oakland warriors here not not to be confused with the san francisco warriors version of this current warrior squad do you guys feel like this is the end of the warriors dynasty or can they make some moves and get back on the right track they can definitely make moves i mean they got tradable pieces um It's just they got to make the right moves at this point. And a lot of times you see teams like this, they be in the crux because they don't know what player is really going to complement what they have. And then who are you giving away that you may lose that could be complementary. So somebody got to go.

You know what I mean? Somebody definitely got to go because it ain't working, and somebody else needs to have an opportunity to step up, but it can't be all on Steph. Or even Klay. You know what I mean? Klay and Steph should be walking in the 25, 30 at night with the young dudes leading the charge.

Yeah, them the only two safe. You feel like Klay and Steph are the only two players that are safe on this Warriors roster and that Draymond not safe right now And then I like that that who's the lefty the white boy come off the bench the carrot top with the brand again pods I'm not gonna try to pronounce key whatever Other than that, yeah, I mean, I think everybody can, you know. The curly perms. Yeah. So other than Klay, and you said that crew,

but so you say Draymond isn't safe. So this Warriors big three, this core unit that's been responsible for this dynasty, the four chips. Draymond could be the omelet out at this point. To me, I don't think it's safe no more. I think you just go with, you end it with Steph and Klay, the Slash Brothers, and then whoever want to come on that can shoot the ball. And just figure it out from there.

But, I mean, Mike Dunleavy got to have some balls. Some marbles as the kiss. I mean, that's what they put you in the office for. So you got to let loose. You got to unleash the, you got to get hostile. No, it's just like anything. Yeah, you're right. Like, this is a time where,

because everything is just so up in the air, if you're Dunleavy, this is when you, this is when like anything. Yeah, you're right. Like, this is a time where because everything is just so up in the air, if you're done, Levy, this is when you gamble. Yeah. Right? This is the only time you get to gamble because the group is not playing well. You know, you got the fans that's kind of upset. It's not the Oakland fans, right? These is new fans.

So whatever move you're going to make, you're not not gonna get the backlash You think you're gonna get so if you have to try to make something very this is the best time to make something very aggressive It's like and make your mark. Yeah, I mean he got it if it works. Yeah, he can't lose right now to me I feel like he's not in the lose-lose situation. I mean he got it. He got he got a nice up you There's no Bob Myers. This is the last wave of the Bob Myers era. You gotta come in and establish who you are. You know what I mean? And so you got Wiggins, you got Kaminga, you got Moody, you got GP3, you got Sarek. You know what I mean?

You got all these dudes that are playing a lot right now, and they, and they all are playing, like, the same position in complementary positions. So I just feel like, Dunley, we got to make a move. So we talk about all these tradable assets, but Wiggins has been struggling this year. Klay's having one of the worst seasons of his career. Obviously, Draymond coming off a, you know, 12, 13-game suspension for slapping the shit out of Nurk.

I'm going to say say from a value standpoint, it seems like Kaminga is probably the most valuable piece amongst that crew, but if you're the Warriors, are you willing to give up, which is one of your more stronger assets right now, for other guys whose trade value may not be as high as you would hope at this current point in the season? Shouldn't have gave up Wiseman. Should have never gave up Kevin Durant.

Should have just kept that shit rolling. And everybody's just going to have to just sit there and suffer. Well, the funny thing is, they didn't give up Kevin Durant. Well, I mean, Kevin Durant gave up himself. I'm good over here, motherfuckers. Well, I mean, well, we know why, though. No. No, we do.

We really? Yeah. It was Drake's fault. Somebody called him a bitch? Yeah. It was more, no. He going to call me there's somebody caught him a bit. Yeah, it was more He don't call me a bitch and I'm a lead I mean everybody have to grow up and you know, I think it was done by teas

And I think it was more of you're coming here. You're not making me feel like I'm a teammate You're making me feel like like like yeah, we just you just come We don't fuck with you like that and i think you know as a player you came into rent but i know i know how you like we like who is you right it's only one person you know what i mean it's only right it's only one person if you're coming to rent that's how you're supposed to be sounding that's how we that's how we who is you you the gatekeeper everybody feel is in this moment? How you feel about me bro? We cool?

Yeah we cool. Alright cool. You like winning with me? We cool. Oh you don't like me? Alright my nigga. We ain't gonna hang out. You know what I mean?

You ain't supposed to like me. Get the rebound. Pass it to me. That's what he does. That's what he does. You don't like me? Cool. He's not tripping.

He tell, hey man what? What? Uh uh. That's what he do. He don't like me coaching him. He not tripping. He tell, hey man, what? What? Uh-uh. He'll shoot it just because somebody yelling at him, I'm under the basket. He'll shoot the ball and make them tip it in. That's how he did it, Jam.

Go down there and get it. He'll be like, yo, I'm open, I'm open. Huh? What'd you say? Oh, get that. Good job. Get that. Here you go. That's how he should have been. Like, what?

I'm the MVP. Oh, for sure. He ain't talking to me. The face of the league, too. And the face of the league. We got people in the chat, they're clamoring, saying the Warriors should have drafted LaMelo Ball instead of James Wiseman. Do you feel like? Hell yeah.

That's the whole point. You're supposed to... That pick should have been LaMelo ball because now you got Steph, you got LaMelo, now you got Steph, LaMelo in the backcourt. Oh, my God.

And then he was 6'7", so he can guard the shift guard. Yeah, yeah. And he a willing passer. And he can pass. He's a first pass. He's a first pass. Now you got Steph off the ball.

Oh, my God. And you got three shooters. And LaMelo, when that's, you know, what Klay at right now, he can be the second option. They got to get some draft picks. They got to try and get young. Because you already, like, you, what are they? They, like, old and young.

And then there ain't no middle vets to be like, hey, I need this opportunity. I want to win a championship. There's no veterans that are coming over and it's like, yo, I want to win a championship. Either they already won the championship or it's the young dudes that won championships and never played and feel entitled. And so you have no bridge players in the organization right now. So you talked about KD. Let's talk a little bit about the Suns. Suns had the bridge players in the organization right now. So you talked about KD. Let's talk a little bit about the Suns.

Suns had the easiest schedule in the league for their loss to the Clippers on Monday. They've lost three of their last four games, including two losses to the Clippers and one to the Grizzlies without John Morant. They play the Lakers tonight on TNT. So we'll see how that goes down. But D-Book has been handling the point guard responsibilities

for most of the season. He's averaging 26 points, 5 rebounds, 8 assists, but also 3 turnovers per game. I know where you stand, but I want to ask the rest of the couch. Do they need to try to add another PG to this roster, or should they be riding out with D-Book and Bradley Beal

handling most of that responsibility? It's the advantage. I mean, he's averaging 8 assists, so he's averaging as the middle road point guards are, right? I mean, other than... It's not hard to average eight assists today. But I'm saying, yeah, but other than Hallie...

Yeah, you just gotta be willing to pass. What I'm saying is you got Hallie who's making the original point guard, that passing point guard look amazing again, right? Because for the most part, it was basically dominated by scoring. Booker, at that position, he really do have the advantage because he's averaging the same amount as somebody who's passing first, but he's big. So now you have to guard me. You, a mid-range guy who's going to sit in the post, who's a legit two-man, now all the point guards have to guard me. You, and mid-range guy who's gonna sit in the post, who's a legit two man, now all the point guards have to guard him, that's an offense and advantage that, so I wouldn't bring in some point guard.

Yeah, I just think they play to their weakness. You know what I mean, they never play to their strength. You got Bradley Beal, Devin Booker, Devin Booker playing point guard, he don't post stuff, he don't cause mismatch problems. He's getting double teamed, kicking out to the dudes who can't shoot, that are less than 40% shooters, and they making plays when he kicking the head. So the way that they play don't really make sense

because they really just out there playing street ball. And if Devin Booker got it, he going to go with it. If Durant got it, he going to with it. If Durant got it, he gonna go with it. Bradley Bill got it, he gonna go with it. And they not like... Working together.

Yeah, they not working together. And then there's... And then the other two, whoever they are, they're... Just whoever... Other two on the floor. I don't know all these dudes' names.

I ain't gonna... I'm gonna get... We appreciate you keeping it real, BD. I'm gonna start playing 2K. I know I am again. We appreciate you keeping Ruby I'm gonna start playing today. So I learned everybody name, but whoever the other two players are they not they not doing nothing to like ease ease the The situation out there for a book so they bringing it up and saying book post and the big dude shooting threes And you know John double teams. They just out there playing like

fucking streetball, but the problem is the problem is KD don't have them that same type of The wing guys saying like like like he had in Brooklyn. He had the same KD Way not the same Katie, but look what he played where he played with Bradley building played with Devin Booker They not they not Kyrie and James Harden. That ain't the same type of flow. And the only reason why that didn't happen because of, you know... But they differ. This is a quicker

offense. And they're not better. But they're not better than those two of them. Those two wing guys ain't better than James and Kyrie. Not as individuals, as a group they could be. Brooklyn had a better chance of winning it than he would with the Suns. I'm saying is oh yeah for sure let me come let me go over there and put them in a three-man game or offense I put them in

I put them in there'd be three over there you two you three-man game these three players three-man game we can roll at Devin Booker and Katie. Pick and roll. Bill, you in the corner. Roll. A 1-3 pick and roll with Katie. What you going to do? Switch.

Switch. I'm going to post it. It's a bucket, bro. It's a bucket. I'm going to pass it to Katie. Then Booker and Bill, y'all do a screen I'm gonna set a screen for you what they're gonna do switch it we gonna roll We don't it should be a three-man offense instead of you play one-on-one. I sit over here. You don't got it

My turn no, but my office would be it'd be just these three Yeah, and that's fun y'all go and they y'all go y'all go do some little things duck in a little bit I might see you. Man, high post, drop down to the post on book. Throw it to Katie at the high post on the elbow. Let them work. Put book in the corner. They don't play together. They don't play together.

Like what you're saying? It feels like when you're watching them, they're like playing three completely different games. Yeah. And it's not in sync. It's never in sync to the rhythm of the game. And so nobody else's contributions really matter if there's no flow.

It's just like, oh, he had a good game, but we lost. And it's like, damn, dude, if he could have got us 17 points last game, we would have won. You know, the wrong people are stepping up to fill the gaps when the right situation and the right way that they should be playing, other people should be the heroes for winning

game basketballs in the locker room for hustle. But our problem with the Lakers, right? When you're not doing anything on the court, it hurts the stars. It hurts the stars because you're not carrying your weight, so now when I'm getting double, I pass it to you, and you're sitting there like... You're anxious. Get back open. I got to get open, do the same thing, and get doubled again.

Pass it back to you. Yeah. Do something like the back door every time, run the lane every time. Pass the board. That's the board. That's what I've said. Go offensive rebound. Try to give me three games. Just offensive rebound.

Try to give me three extra possessions. Hey, it's LeBron and AD. You can't get no offensive. You don't get rebounds. Leak out. See if we can get you two of those a game. Up the court, get you, you know, carry Kittles it. Right?

Now when my guy decided to shoot, he got to run the fuck back. Right? There's things you can do in this game, but me, Karan, and Antoine, it's going to be us three. We coming down the court, it's going to be me and Antoine on the side, so you know if it's swing, two-man game. Right? If Antoine's by himself on the post up me and Karan you swing it back here two man game right they don't they don't do that right it's just you go on that side play by yourself you don't like your one-on-one matchup give it to

me I'm gonna try it up the middle I don't like the matchup I'm did I'm gonna give it to you like when is Jaylen Brown or Tatum playing together pick and roll let's get like that's fair that's fair. That's the problem with now. Yeah, no, for sure. Everybody wants to play one-on-one and don't realize that 90% of our possession should be within the three of us. And they work out. So here's the problem.

They be working out playing one-on-one, right? Or they do workouts one-on-nothing. Then you get in the game and it be somebody in front of you and you ain't got no one-on-one skills. You got drill skills. Then you get in the game and it be somebody in front of you and you ain't got no one on one skills. You got drill skills. You look nice in drills but you ain't got

no one on one skills. So now, you in the game and it's like somebody in front of you, you don't know how to play off action and you been practicing shit

that you ain't even going to do in the game. You feel what I'm saying? You're very passionate about that. Because they cones. Because they are cones. So I got three

When they come start That cone a that's only no double double pat double pat back between the legs grab it up put it down What the fuck is that like nobody ain't got like a Like nobody has an identity, bro. You know what I mean? It's like you got your superstars and shit like that, but like it ain't no journeyman or glue guys or like nobody got like a real life. Like, you know, you can look and say Shane Battier, you know exactly what he do. You know, Boris Diaw, you know exactly what he do what he bring to the table a lot of these dudes. They not

They not coming with no style to even counter what everybody everybody just doing the same shit Go there on the internet So I got three of the best guards them come three of the best guards in LA history sitting on this couch I'm not from Valley. He's from the Valley Valley Terrible y'all wanted me to play again. I'm in about you holiday at Campbell Hall Larry drew at tab get the fuck out. Yeah, no Larry drew or drew holiday See you holiday said you You don't speak I've never ducked a nigga They said he was looking for you. He was looking for you at high school. He was at McDonald's all the way. He was looking for you.

Because I left. All these niggas had a chance once I left L.A. When I left L.A., all these niggas had a chance. Larry Drew, DeMar, Drew Holiday. All these niggas. Everybody had a chance. The Valley Boys. You was scared of the Valley. Larry Drew. I left L.A. to help California look good.

I had to go to Oak Hill. I had to go to Oak Hill. I had to go to Oak Hill. I had to put the city on the... That's why you moved to the valley. That's why you moved to the Woollen Hill. You had to move in the area. I had to move because my coach...

Nonetheless... Nonetheless... Y'all mad, so y'all be like, I wanted to leave because my coach, mm, oh. But nonetheless, nonetheless. Y'all mad, so y'all be like, I wanted to leave. Niggas, I mean, y'all be like, I was asking to leave. Nigga, I didn't want to leave. I was the ball boy. If you have Google, why would I want to leave? If you have Google, you could do some research

and find all that out for yourself. But question for y'all, are point guards born or can you make one? You can make them. You can make them. You just got to have the right engineer or the right coach, scientist behind them giving them that DNA. But you can make a good point guard. Yeah, I think it's about who you grow up watching. I think what helped my game was Kenny Anderson.

Having the tape of Kenny Anderson at Georgia Tech in eighth grade helped my game. Being able to be in the gym with Barron, being able to see guys like Wesley Stokes back in there at Long Beach Poly and all these different guards that I was able to watch. So I think with the eye, I was able to become a better point guard by what I saw okay I think it's a little bit of both right you can you can you know you can make a you can make a you can make a point guard good Point guard, good, but born.

Because mentally, right? You know, he already has to have the mental. He has to have vision, right? You know. I mean, if a motherfucker can't see, you know, he got 2040 vision, motherfucker. You know what I mean? You know, so his vision got to be on point. He has to be able to think the game, to see shit before you can see it.

See shit before you see it. You know, when I used to watch Baron, it was like as easy as scoring came from him, the vision of him coming down and he can see shit and I'll watch it. And I was like, how the fuck did he see that? Like me watching it, I don't see it. When I, I love watching pure points, because I wasn't a pure point, I was a scoring point. I knew how to look at angles, see bodies, and looking at someone who can see something before it's coming.

Like, okay, he has a little bit of foot speed. Let me spin it. And that motherfucker spin like, what? Wait, why did you think of doing something like that? That's bull. He has that in him. That's like how Marcus Williams used to play. And Will. Yeah.

From UConn. He used to see you before he was over there. Like, that's what, like, and as I said, like, you was a scoring guard. We would, like, that's crazy. Like, you became, like, the scoring guard of L.A. Like, where we was able to see. It like like that's crazy Like you became like the scoring guard of LA like the where we was able to see and then Yeah that we ever we never saw that it was always like you are like the point guard that all of these point guards are now No, no, I was the point for sure. No, for sure. No, for sure. No, for sure. No, for sure, bro. I was tight.

You know what I mean? How the fuck he getting off? Oh, and just turn around and just, like, damn. Like, you were the evolution of, like, it doesn't have to be initiated with the pass. My points are just as potent. And then my passing is, is like my secondary thing that's going to beat you. You know what I mean?

Where we had to get 10, 12 assists, and then like 18 points, 12 assists is like a perfect game for us. You know what I mean? Yup. Yup. It wasn't no four. I wasn't getting 40s, 30s, 25s. But you could do that.

But our teammates was better. You ain't play with nobody. No, no, no. No, I had the right. See, the problem is, like, I had no big man that we had to pass the ball to. In that era. Yeah, so when I came in, even with, you know, Donald Ford and Dan Pierce, like, the first five plays of the quarter

or just half, you get five plays. That's it. So five and then, lookit, that's it. We ain't got to play. Yeah, that was like a man. That was like, I'm telling you, five places. That's it. So five and didn't look at us it I'm telling you that was like You come out you gotta go inside First points go inside then the next one is a pin down for your shooting Shooting guard then the second one was like another post up. You had to go establish Yourself in the post that was like always the thing until kind of like you came around and it was like it was all this money

I get to talk shit. Oh, yeah, you know you already got this. You already got a shot for the day, right? Yeah, you only got 18 And I get to shoot all the shots and he got to sit there like run the office and number Yeah, and the whole and the whole time you like this nigga killing oh my god He got a runoff as well, this is not fair This month like it just out here just obliterate people Come down and run the offense and shit. He ain't even playing defense. He's just waiting to go down the other end and see if he can shoot. It's like, God damn, dude.

Okay, I can't do this. I can't get this off. I got McGlure. He going to want to fight at halftime. Wesley. You're asking for it. EJ Brown, like, no way. 20 shots in a game for me was like a lot

And I'm telling tired and that was it But that's the funny part is the cat in a casual a casual fit or the media wouldn't understand any of it Yeah, right you over here ranking point guards and even like this man was more dangerous than his man Yeah, he just he just had post players He had the attitude, but if he didn't have them. Oh, no, we was done It was good Them to post us. I'm a double double double real quick double real quick I think the first two players coming in double double double. Ah, yeah. Yeah, then his regular office I got a we're about to getting double no more

Shit in my job is trying to get him in foul trouble before. Because I know once he got mad, then all shit, he's coming at me now. Now, hey, Larry, you got him. Hey, L! Yeah, I'm not going to front. I ain't going to front. I did hate that my rookie year against y'all. I played against BD against the Clippers.

Rookie year in the post. You in the post. John C. Billups in the post. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Two fouls, come sit down. You ain't running around all day. No way, bro. I used to hate that shit. Hey, no way. Even Bill't see bullets in the polls. Yeah, yeah two fouls come sit down. You ain't running around all day No way, I hate that. Hey, no way even billups like slow your ass I'm Till he found me. Okay, cool. Until he found you. Yeah, man.

Chill my ass now. Yo, sit down. I'm not about to be chasing you, embarrassing me and shit. 19, 20. You know, Pooh embarrassed me when he was in Sacramento when I was with the Clippers. I was just having a bad year. He was killing. I tried to trip him on that.

I'm a hater when I'm out there. Uh-huh. Nah, for there. But we respect it. But let's keep this thing moving. Oh, fuck yeah. Let's talk about Katie a little bit. So there were reports that Katie was unhappy with the Suns around Christmas, which Katie called bullshit. Katie recently spoke to Fox Sports about the Suns and not running from the grime.

In Phoenix, that's what he had to say. I don't want to get traded. I'm not frustrated because Brad was injured. I wasn't frustrated because the role players on the team, that shit really was ignorant to me. You know what I'm saying? It's like, yeah, we lose a game. You think I'm supposed to be happy after we lose a game? You know what I'm saying? I'm not frustrated with the whole situation. I may be frustrated at the moment at a bad play or a tough stretch, but now I enjoy the grind So let's go back to the holiday season Brandon you caused a stir a few weeks ago when you you tweeted this You said Katie should leave the Suns. They curse me

Katie talked about that too said that was your opinion, but he was basically getting Bad fire people because of what you tweeted as if he tweeted it, and that was his thoughts on the situation. I mean, he's pound for pound one of the greatest, so I'm going to roll with him. You got to get up out of there. So, Sha'Kati embraced the grind. And go where? Go back to go to state. Who cares?

Go back to go to state. I mean, listen, I just feel like, listen, you left before, you left again, you left again. It don't matter. Just keep leaving. So, now people just expect him to go and leave left again like it don't matter just keep leaving So now people just expect him man. It don't matter At this point like oh you you don't win around the league you got you know work yourself go back They go back to where yeah, I go to okay see mmm Or go to Seattle Supersonics if they expand that team back there

Oh, and I think he happy where he at, man. In the sun. Yeah. And it's nice and hot over there. I mean, it's nice. Yeah, Phoenix is a great place to be. Yeah, but I'm all about, like, how you, like, I don't know. I guess because I love Katie's game and, like, you know, pound for pound, one of the greatest ever.

But it's, like, how you end it. Like, how you going to end it? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, how do you want to end it? Like, are you going to get your farewell tour being in the sun's uniform or like do you want to you know leave like you know leave it the right way like everybody know you and steph is the best like you know when you're all together like you saw success it works like so what's the i'm coming home like i'm just saying you got to be careful how you go in because you already know the media

gonna get like it don't matter I mean it don't matter be enjoyable for him if he goes yes it is so let's get back and just get it cracking turn off your social media and just like live life like I'm going back to go to state. Bye. Turn that shit off. You can only text me, dog. You can only text me and ask me Q&A at the media. I don't even know what somebody, I don't know what Josiah texted. None of that shit.

I don't know his tweets. So, Lexi, should Katie embrace the grind with the sons or run from it? You say embrace it? Embrace it? Yeah. Okay. Good, you're saying he run from it? Embrace it. Good, you're saying he should embrace it? Brandon, you're an agent of chaos obviously. The last person said something about embracing

the grind and staying there, he left. He ended up going to Milwaukee. He in Milwaukee now. I don't want to hear shit about embrace the grind. Embrace the grind. Embr embrace the bra and great embrace the grind But this ain't embrace the grind man the Parliament listen this ain't no grind He do got two more Hall of Famers with him like they got a grind winning the chair

None of what I'm saying is we not gonna do that we we already The Clippers done already did it to us, right? We laugh and giggling giggling naughty over here smacking the fuck out of people right because they all they got this shit together They just getting healthy together The Sun there's only sure they only been what two three games together Let them let them get their 1015 games in like the Clippers it and let's see what happens So if they don't win it this year, then what? Well, you know moves are gonna be made no, no, no, no, that's fine But other teams so don't think you're gonna walk into next year just think you're gonna have to roll that shit out there

How do they need to get this postseason to be confident? Right now I think KD is not the KD of old. And the role that he's asked to play on the Phoenix Suns is the KD of old. Block shots, be an MVP, you know what I mean? Do all this stuff. When Bradley Beal come back and Devin Booker come back, if they can create that triangle,

it is going to take a lot more pressure off of KD to where his MVP greatness can actually live and other people are doing all the little intangible shit. But he got too much. He likes Steph. He got too much responsibility because he got to play a little point guard. He's not thinking about score, score, score, score, score. He's not thinking about that's my best weapon and then everything else I do is great too he thinking about I gotta lead these dudes to a victory which is definitely not what he's used to he's never been that or been that role he's never had to do it it's like you know just be money sniper and he's like well just be the MVP greatness you are just as an enigma you know what I mean

instead of like as the main source that got a lead communicate healthy like he can't think for everybody he got if he think for himself and just go out there who he gonna be he gonna be great you know what i mean gotta make sure the family's together but that's not his whole locking up the hands honestly not his responsibility because that's not his personality you know what i I mean? Like, Bill, it should be Bradley Bill because he got the personality. He got the game that can complement Booker to KD. So he has to become, like, that Harden, you know what I mean, for the Phoenix Suns to kind of, it's not Booker being six.

Like, Booker going to get his. Bradley Bill got to figure out how to be that linchpin in between both of them. It ain't gonna happen. He would've been it. He ain't been it. That's what I'm saying. He ain't playing. I mean, but he wasn't that up in with the Wizards. Give him some more. They wasn't winning.

They had a terrible team. Wait, you talking about when John left? Yeah. When we haven't started, he was on Demon Time over there. I mean, there's a lot of people on Demon Time over there with the sons.

Well, like who? What's wrong with the sons? What's wrong with the sons? What happened with the sons? I ain't doing what happened. I just don't like the position Katie in. Nah, nah, nah.

Katie, you're done. I'm going to Google. I mean, it's a lot of Demon Time shit going on over there. You got to stop locking hands. Oh, of demon time. We gotta stop locking hands Talk about that we don't talk about that we know We gotta make sure everything is together as a unit. That's why we got braces down

We talk about it after the show. Let's move on to hibachi time. Let's move on to a little hibachi time. Okay, I was trying to make sure they didn't have the draft before that. Okay, okay. I'm trying to look. Okay, nah. It was Toronto.

Wait, what? I don't know. I was trying to figure out why you made some sun covers. He doesn't like the culture. I don't like the culture. It was Toronto I don't like the culture. I don't like the culture. I saw them losing game six against Milwaukee too. So you already know how I feel Okay, that's fair fair fair assessment. You should love them cuz that's how you got your That's what keep it going Katie didn't need to go over there. Don't go over there. That's cursed. Okay fair fair Oh, oh, it's cuz my boss. No, it's cursed. Yeah, a lot of things. There's a lot of Let's talk a little bit about Wimby Wimby made history on Wednesday night becoming the youngest center in NBA history to drop a triple-double the youngest center

All right, you know you already know you're gonna attack that and are you gonna attack that? So we're be gave the Pistons 16 points 12 rebounds and 10 assists with no turnovers and only 21 minutes second fastest triple-double in league history Only Russ ever had a fast one of course a faster when he did it in I believe 20 minutes, which is fucking wild And it was against the Pistons, but either way no bonus way No bonus ways, but they did get to see a wimpy triple-double No jumpers Now now I'm more pissed off at the team at the beginning

This dude is sitting there as a willing passer while you guys are not wanting to pass to him. That is crazy. He's looking for y'all like this. When he's sitting there down there, y'all are like, oh no. Yeah, but all them dudes was averaging like 20.

Man, he the one, dude. He the one. No, I hear you. It's not like he came under- He the one. No, I hear you. I hear you. But it's not like he came under some bully shit like I'm trying to score 30. He the one.

Yeah. Man, I'm about to get 17 and win. Mm-hmm. I got to take my 20 now. You know what I mean? Like, my 20 was Fugazi. Yep. Do you know how to win?

All them dudes was Fugazi 20s. They need to be 17, 16. That's how the Spurs can win. Let that dude rock. Man, that dude took the ball behind his back. I'm dead. I'm dead. I'm dead. I'm dead. I'm dead. I'm dead. All them dudes is full guys in their 20s. They need to be 17, 16, that's how the Spurs can win. Let that dude rock.

Man, that dude took the ball behind his back on a point guard and dunked on a... Come on, man. After that, I cut the TV off. Watch no more. Check him next year. That's what's funny is... Check him out next year. I need to see him in the playoffs.

They're 20 last year. 17 this year while he's the man makes you look better. No, for sure. Yeah. It's going to make you stay. Because they got talent around. They got talent around. They just young. They just young. But if you're going to be young, let him make all the mistakes

and learn all the mistakes working through what he got. Because he got the ism, bro. He got all the shit. You know what I. Because he got the ism, bro. He got all the shit. You know what I mean? Somebody in the chat said, Wimby's teammates are the ops. I mean, that's how they was acting, though. That's how they was acting.

That's how they be on him. No, that's how they was acting. No, no, they be on that. He's bringing the ball up himself. Yo, that's how they was acting, though. They was acting like they didn't want to give him the ball. It was like they was all signed to the same label, and then somebody just found this dude and showed up.

And now everybody like, damn. He's getting on the studio tour. Is that what we're going to do before we're gone? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, putting your shit out. Putting your shit out. That nigga right there. He the one.

He the one, bro. Lexi, what's your biggest takeaway from Wimby's dominant performance? That you need to give him the ball more. That's it. I mean, it was against the Pistons, though, so keep that in mind, but 21 minutes is crazy. He the one, right?

Yeah. He the one. Like, give him the ball. If y'all want to keep your jobs, give him the ball. Hopefully he'll remember. You said the youngest center. Who's the youngest player? Oh, my mama. They need to go get DeMarcus Cousins.

They need to go get all the vets and then put them around him, and they know how to manage all that. They need some vets over there. They need some older vets that's on their way out. They're going to let the young dude ride. Double check. I don't know. They still want to hoop for you. It might be another name. Yeah, that's what I got too. That's what I got.

What's he going to say then? A player from Oklahoma City, that's all you know Caucasian. That's what people Quagmire You get quagmire forgot we don't switch his name, huh quagmire And roll with us and don? And on that note... It's LA, man. We in here. So, Ben, we got you here on the couch.

We got the first annual Gills Arena shootout presented by Underdog Fantasy taking place next Saturday, January 20th at the District in Chatsworth, California. Qualifiers competing against our celebrity influencers, Gills Arena crew. Winner take all battle for $100,000. I don't know how your jumpers feeling,

but if you want to pull up and participate, we would love to have you there if you could be good That's 100 100 Won't you to come even soon like go find somebody Is it obvious No, is it obvious to you right that in there isn't obvious y'all how many people y'all want to add? Don't say Promote but it's like the more I put a three-point shootout different spots in each round

But I think it is with a with the college three because they want to maybe a for every fair for everybody on there Oh the NBA 3 this is a show and put NBA on there I was like making college I'm trying to make it fit I was trying to make it fit for everybody else because you know that would be shoe huh whoever beat you now I just got a high score 18 of us is basically you know round around man all right so here's a quick recap that's an to eat like here's a quick recap from the qualifier in December. At stake is pride in $100,000. $100,000 of Underdog Fantasy's money.

So all the competitors come in January 20th. I'm not scared of you. You know, I'm going for that $100K. I'm here to win it. Money ball, get hot. Can't hear the suit for 100 grand. Shit, dog, you ready to go. This is $100, thousand, man. Damn.

See that motivation, that look of fire in their eyes. You get the chance to pack up Gil. They're gonna have to level up. The trash talking is gonna happen after I get that hundred thousand. There we go. We got one. It's gonna be tough, Gil.

There ain't gonna be no fake one. You're gonna have to kill me, bro. You ain't gonna be no fake one. You're gonna have to kill me, bro. You ain't gonna get this over me. I promise you that. Oh, good luck. Good luck. Good fucking luck. Thank you, Gil. No problem.

So, Underdog will also be doing special pick-ups during the shootout where you can go higher or lower on all the contestants by all we mean, every single one, including our Gills Arena crew. So one of those contestants is influencer Jack Settleman, a friend of Underdog, fantasy, a legend out here in the game. So let's take a look at his shooting form and see how he stacks up against the competition. One strike for Desmond. Okay. Okay.

Okay. Being in front of an absolute sniper. With the headband. Oh my. Oh my. She's been doing this to everybody, so you know what, don't take it personal. Him getting knocked out by another Guild Women Shootout participant, Jenna Bandy. Oh, he's moving for sure.

I mean, but we ain't got to do all that, right? We ain't got to chase those shots, we're just shooting. You do not have to get your own rebound. I mean, you got a little cardio going on, so I got to help him. We have the budget, but- We have the budget. We have the budget so you guys do not have to rebound, God bless Underdog Fantasy. We have the budget, We got the budget.

If they was like, y'all niggas got to get your own rebound, I would have cracked them. Oh, man. It would have been a different. That should have been all day. That should have been all day. You have to sign a waiver. So, BD, first round of shootout is mid-range. So, five spots all in the middie.

How many middies are you hitting out of 25? About 22, 23. Okay, 23, 20. That's my range. 92%? That's my range. Yes, yes. Me, probably less than that. 15. I'm long distance.

But you need to hit the middies to get to the next round. Oh, well, I'm gonna try to do my best. Hopefully I get 20. How many do you have to make to get to the next round. Oh, well, I mean, I'm going to try to do my best. Hopefully I get 20. How many do you have to make to get to the next round? It's all based on... It's 18, so 12 go to the second round. So we just got to be top 12. Okay. And for the tie, which I got to do?

Keep going, right? No, it's just paper. You have to do it again. Did you think about a tie? I am not writing paper. You just got to do it again. And Lexi, how many minis are you hitting out of 25? Or hit a half-court shot.

I'll say 21, 22. Cap. Cap. No. Cap. Lexi made a friendship bracelet. I don't know. Cap. Cap. When them lights is on, them cameras rolling,

that ball get heavy. Y'all really just be attacking me on this. See, I support you. You got that Boston jacket on. That's why. That's a fake. them cameras rolling that ball get heavy y'all really just be attacking me on this see i got that boston jacket that's why that's a fake no i think i listen i think like i can't say shit i can have no confidence in myself no no no but you can't hear you can't Don't let him intimidate you. He just competitive. As soon as you say something, he'll look at you like this. Like, do you mean it? I'm playing mind games. Say what you're saying.

Look at him and be like... See, BD knows. No, every time. BD knows. It's been for like the last two weeks. I can't say nothing. No, he's like, it's Jedi mind tricks. He's trying to test your mental.

He's like, oh, you're going to make 22? I'm thrilled. Are you sure? I'm going make 22 Videos for in the morning. I hope you Mean a gym already. I hope you up Early in the morning, I hope you're in the bed chilling. I hope you are 4 30 the morning is very early No, I text I wake up Hope you in the gym already done shot 500 All right, well, that's what I'm gonna rebound at 5 in the morning let's go this fuck off

Damn ball right out here. So yeah, it's freezing. It's been like 40, 40 degrees. I can't feel that goddamn ball. Out here, too? Shit. It's freezing. Let's move on to our last segment of the day, Mostly Fans. And as always, the show is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. We have OnlyFans. We got MostlyFans. Download it.

We don't have OnlyFans. We got MostlyFans. We got a lot of haters, too, in the chat. The hating is really toned down, though, in 2024. I feel like people are motivated. I know it will not last, but let's at least get through Black History Month and y'all can go full throttle again. But as always, if you do not have the Underdog Fantasy app,

download it, use promo code GIL, we'll match your first deposit up to $100. So our first question, Underdog user Braylon OTE, who is collecting a lot of bread since most of your questions are trash, said, what's the key to being a great shooter? Is it form, repetition, or muscle memory? I'll repeat the question. What's the key to being a great shooter? Is

it form, repetition, or muscle memory? Barron, you're our guest today, representing Black Santa. It's got to be the Holy Trinity to be great. You got to have elements of all three in order to be great. I agree. So it's a three-piece. I mean, I think it starts with form. You can get up a lot of shots, but if your shooting form is messed up,

then what are you really doing? Yeah. Yeah. I think repetition is one of the most important parts. I'm going to say reps, yeah. Because even if you have janky form, if you do it enough times, you'll figure it out. Facts. Yeah, and if you find the right form,

like, you know, perfect form may not fit right to your elbows. That is fair, too. Like, I guess putting, like, once you have everything in line, being consistent, right? Yes. I don't think, I tell my son, I say,

I don't know if you know what consistent means. 365 days. If I say, you're going to shoot 100,000 shots in 365 days, you're a better shooter shooting every single day

versus shooting half, but it's still the same number, right? Because muscle memory, all of it, it all matters. So I'd rather you shoot every single day, even if you take five a day, every single day so your body understands it. Because if you mentally take off or physically take off, your body starts adjusting to what you're doing you know that's why we take naps at 2 p.m every single day your body learns to shut down at that time yeah right so you'd be out there chilling having fun and shit must be tuned your body's telling your body so you said so mostly it's it's to be a great shooter. Shoot every day. Every day. I need to chill myself now. You shoot every day? Almost every day.

Ooh. I design every day. What a loser. We're going to have a shooting contest, and we got one mostly, like mostly fans. We got one who sisters designs every day. Okay, I'm going to be real. You write my checks,

but I'm looking forward to Lexi packing you up in the first day of day. You're not winning. How much you want to bet he ain't winning Yeah, how much what about you? Oh, it will be like you arena So so Ford gets to the finals so it's gonna be a four You're not getting to the finals. The finals is in the a3 You're not getting there who who has the advantage on an NBA 3? You got to get there. But you got to get there, though. What I'm saying is today.

You ain't shooting. When was the last time you shot NBA 3s like that? Last Friday, nigga. Look at that. Last Friday, nigga. With Nick at LA Fitness. No, but talk about it. LA Fitness don't even have NBA 3s.

I created it. I created it. I created it. Mr. Doug. Nah, you know. Me If you shoot with Nick, it don't count. Nah, you know, being swaggy. Being swaggy. Swaggy. Being swaggy, what?

No, but what I'm saying is, for the most part, when you talk about the... If you shoot with Swaggy, it don't count, bro. The influencers don't... They haven't got NBA 3s to understand the NBA 3s. Yeah, but they might get there to beat you from the other spots. College 3? Yeah, they might. Influencer?

College 3? Yeah, they might. All you got to do is shoot there. The only ones who have the advantage on the college 3 is Lexi. Rashad said he's going to beat you, so that's two. First of all, there's time. He, his body's got to get past time. I mean, I don't know. Is his body capable enough to motherfucking move and shoot?

He might motherfucking cramp up. I'm not worried about it. All that body weight, he got to carry that through the rounds. That motherfucker might be tired, man. I'd be training at the NBA 3 line, though. Okay, see, so? But he might not even get there. It's Final Four. He might not get there. I was training at the NBA 3 line though. Okay, is he so? But he might not even get there.

It's Final Four. He might not get there. Somebody might knock him off. 18 suitors? Never know. We will find out January 20th at the District in Chatsworth, California. 1 p.m. Pacific. You can watch on the Gills Arena YouTube channel.

Either way, it's going to be funny. Final Four, the allies just got to creep in. And that Final Four, that Final Four, what was it? College, what was it? I like this either way is going for it. I just got a creep in and that final four that final four What was it college? It was a 50 50 NBA threes it is is that what it is and this is 50 is tanny's spot I think that the chair is tanny's no Teddy's spot is crazy. I mean whatever I say whatever that's crazy, but whatever 100 grand let's get to it. This motherfucker going to work.

We're going to find it. But that's what I'm saying. Who's, like, you got round after round after round. Who's, y'all arms ain't. Nah, bro. Y'all arm, Gil. No, what I'm saying is, whose arm that, whose arm is conditioned at this point? But Gil, you cheating, though.

You already at the, Gil been going to the facility since yesterday. So he been in the facility. You can't train there no more. I mean, before that. I mean, he been training there. Gilby training there. That ain't fair. I gotta know the room. That's alright. I'm dropping the merch there.

Let us know. I'll be there 8am. I'll be there 8am. I'm dropping the merch anyway. Y'all already know. If we're shooting, let's say 10 is the. I'm dropping the merch anyway. Y'all already know. If we're shooting, let's say 10 is the most, right, in that spot. Y'all already know I'm going to shoot 100 in that spot. My arm is going to be dedicated.

It don't matter. You just, it, it. When the mic come on, we'll sit. We're older now. Yeah. And we're retired. So when, like, performance,

you got, it's like performance anxiety. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like, it's not like, it's not the NBA where it's like, oh, you're in anxiety. And you're not in disguise. She's the only one that's, like, really in the trenches that can, like, turn that into, like, positive. Exactly.

So, you're done. Like, it's going to turn into, like. Wow, look at the table. Why do you think I keep picking on? Huh? Why do you think I keep picking on the same person? No, for sure. I figured it out.

She's training right now, so she's conditioned. She's the only one who can turn all that anxiety and performance anxiety into like, oh, I've been doing this. But listen, you got to be careful. Remember, pound for pound, I'm the greatest on this couch. So I could just click in. I could just click in and get it going. To be honest. Pound for pound.

Like saying, worry about nothing. I'm going to bring more friendship bracelets to celebrate. I'm like AI when he went to jail. I'm going to beat you pal for pal like saying worry about no friendship bracelets to celebrate i'm like ai when he went to jail i'm gonna beat you in your i'm gonna beat you in your friendship oh i'm not even gonna take it off and damn if he beat you in the friendship bracelet yeah yeah that's personal that's purse i ain't coming to no game because i gave it like if you don't witness me all right so let's move on to our next underdog fantasy mostly fans question.

So what do y'all think about Sebastian Telfair calling himself the GOAT of New York school ball? And what was said the last couple days between him, Mark Jackson, and Rayford Austin? So for context, Sebastian Telfair was on the Is What It Is podcast with Cam and Mace. Shout out under Underdog Fantasy. They're in the family.

And this week, he declared himself the GOAT of New York high school ball. So today, Skip to My Lou was on It Is What It Is, responding to Bassie's comments, and he said the following. I thought the man was high. That's what I thought. I'm not shit-coded. I don't mean it disrespectfulfully. We all do respect. Because my thing is, how dare somebody like that, who I give him the utmost credit and respect. You had a phenomenal high school career.

I say that with respect. I love this dude. Not putting him over the Lew Alcindors, the Kenny Andersons, the Pearl Washtens, and the list goes on. My man sitting right there on the know, on the other side of the camera, Mark Jackson. But at the end of the day, how dare you say that you're the greatest in New York City history with all this New York City history before you? So, Brandon, thoughts on that? And Ray Frost, or excuse me, Sebastian Telfair saying that he's the best high school

That's better to come out of you. You should have said most impactful When you start saying that go when you start saying like you're the golden stuff like the greatest like that's a different that I've never Said most impactful. I mean, I mean, I mean he's I mean through the fire was crazy No, he should have he should have said that you know in his own right and like He should have just gave respect with all due respect. If he would have let all due respect. All due respect and disrespect. You know what I mean?

With all due respect, I think- He's high, no disrespect. I think, I mean- Because you got to run with yourself, but he was, he was- He could have said most impactful though., I think I think impactful like like I'm never sounding but greatest That's like you making that statement when we know it was a joke about you know me and Gia But we do with all due respect give me your props because it's like okay you are there I mean listen listen I love both of y'all both of y'all are the only two

LA Hoopers that ever showed me love and you know like and you know had the platform for me to be able to look up to and do what I do so I just feel like I took it to another level when it was my turn I'm not saying like yo I'm better than you took it to another level when it was my turn. I'm not saying like, yo, I'm better than you guys.

But as far as like, when it come to like, you know, just rolling out the ball. Rolling out the ball, you would've got... I'm the coldest nigga ever. You would've got put 70.

I don't know. I don't know. If it's basketball, if it's basketball, there's no discussion. If it's talking about basketball and all this shit outside of playing, then you guys shut up. No, no, no, no. But that's not the thing.

No, no. That's not the thing about with Bassey. It's the same thing with Bassey. You're going to, bro, as a hooper, you're going to say, I'm the GOAT, I'm the greatest, especially when you had a great career and did great shit and got the hype and all that shit. But, like, maybe you just don't know who came before you. Maybe you didn't really see what came before you, or you saw it and was like, oh, yeah, I can...

I would have mixed Marbury, but the Marbury story is just as big as yours. I mean, no, I'm skipping to my list. The Kenny Anderson story is just as big as yours. Yeah. The Mark Jackson story is just as big as yours. It just happened in a time where they didn't have a through the fire or when nobody felt they needed to be made. Was it better?

Oh, I guess he's from New Jersey, right? Wagner? Do you think you played against better competition than I did in high school? Yeah, for sure. You think your high school schedule was better than mine? Absolutely. No way. Absolutely.

No way. My high school team would have beat y'all. Crossroads would not have beat Oak Hill. Yes, we would. No, you would not. Stop. Crossroads would have beat Oak Hill. Not even. But you won it.

Who's on your team? Me, Nola Smith, D1. That's not enough. Everybody went D1. That's not enough. Everybody went D1. And then my senior year. Who's on the team?

Me, Nola Smith, Alex Legion. That's not enough. I mean, but... Who's the center? It don't matter. I'm enough. Who's the center? I'm the team me know Alex Legion. That's not enough Um, I mean, but I mean, but I was a sinner it don't matter. I'm enough. I'm enough I place I am the big fighters. I started mixtape hoop for niggas to be I started that shit to where niggas have to go Watch that's a lie. Swear to God you have to go. Hey, I gotta go see me. Did you see growing up? That inspired you to do a mixtape Come on, man. Don't play I did. Who mixtape did you see growing up that inspired you to do a mixtape? Come on man, don't play. I did the first mixtape out here in LA when I got hurt at UCLA. His brother sat in the room, we picked the music, it was 19- whatever the fuck it was.

Shout out to my big brother Chris Johnson. And it was the Lost Files of the BD. First mixtape. I never saw it for 10 years. So you know. Chris, where the mixtape at? Chris, where? Nah, it's only one tape. Nah, but I think Sebastian messed up when he said the GOAT. Like when I say

impactful or like, you know what I'm saying? Like, right for Austin, you gotta think. And one mixtape came out when I was 11 years old. Like, that was one of the biggest things. Rafer Austin was just as big as Sebastian Telfair in high school, bro. Even bigger. He just had a cold little trajectory.

Dude, a fire was crazy. But you're going off a documentary, yo. You know what I mean? But that's big, though. He has a documentary to back that shit up. Right. Right, for Austin don't have a documentary because nobody was capturing footage like that.

So, like, stories can be, like, he was the first to, like, do it big. But he got in with Mixtape. That's big. I mean, come on, right? Yeah, but we're talking about the resume. No, no, no. I know, but on, come on. Yeah, it's not about the views. I mean... Yeah, yeah, but we're talking about the resume. No, no, no, I know, but no, he's talking about... But it wasn't a documentary about him.

It was about him. You know what I mean? Like, Through the Fire was about Sebastian. You know what I mean? It was about the hype around him, like the hype he brought, like how cold he was. But when you think about him and the lineage of point guards that come before him, you know what I mean? It's like bro like Yeah, you're the greatest of your your own right? All right, does New York have better point guards than Ella?

No You know where we at? And Steve you better relax the best point guards in there. It was the worst documentary. I'm watching YC point guards. Steve, don't read that. It's the worst documentary. It didn't explain shit. It didn't explain nothing. I'm watching YC point guards, and I was like, wait a minute.

I know some L.A. point guards who may have something to say about this. L.A. point guard documentary. You're going to see how real point guards get down. No disrespect to them. New York point guards. They better make sure I got my whole chapter. Like I said, all the New York Point Guards are dope. They got all dope stories.

That documentary didn't really touch the essence of who all them dudes was and the timeline and the lineage because I did my podcast show, Point Guards. So I had all them dudes on the show. They didn't really tap into the real ones, you know what I mean, and the ones that aspire. So when you think about L.A., it's like, yeah, we all famous and shit. We all made it. But it's like 10 to 15 motherfuckers we know that didn't make it to the league

that could be right up there and go top five point guards and come out of L.A. most inspirational. So I don't think so. I mean, I played against most of the top New York point guards in my career. Mark Jackson, I didn't play against Kenny Smith, but Mark Jackson, Kenny Anderson, Steph, Bassey, Rafer. You know what I mean?

I just think that we just come with something. We got something different, because we have to do scoring, assisting, defense. You know what I mean? It's just a different game. Yeah. I'm with all the action, too.

I know. We did. We did. We did. We did go down to New York. I heard about that. We showed up. Me and Gil showed up at the record and won one one. Yeah We gonna do it again this summer to I'm saying we have that LA point guard documentary Make sure I got an hour to myself

because I got lots of shit to talk about. My shit going to take a minute. My shit. Make sure, BD. BD, make sure you got an hour for me. You mean the Virginia one?

No, no, no. Make sure. I mean, we can talk about that. And then he left and went to Virginia. And went right to Rome, was speaking Italian,

and came back. From Virginia. Me scooby Rome, was speaking Italian, and came back. From Virginia. Me scoozy. B.D., we appreciate you pulling up to the show. Unexpectedly, Baron Davis. Shout out Black Santa. Shout out U.S. Academy. Everything else you got going on for the community, we really appreciate that.

And we appreciate y'all, as always. Join us for another episode of Guilds Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. We will see y'all next week. This is legendary, though. He's the only one with his mascot. Yep. Outro Music you