Gil's Arena - Bomani Jones Shares His Legendary Takes With Gil's Arena

Episode Date: January 18, 2024

Bomani Jones Shares His Legendary Takes With Gil's Arena as the Hall of Fame journalist enters the Arena to talk hoops and culture with Gilbert Arenas and The Gil's Arena Crew. They open things up dis...cussing LeBron James and Anthony Davis getting the Lakers back on track but debate whether or not this will be Bron's final season in LA before wrapping up his career and doing a farewell tour some place else. They also call fact or cap on Trae Young calling Victor Wembanyama the goat and discuss if this is a tiny clue in the Trae Young to San Antonio rumors. Finally they address potential snubs in the upcoming roster for Team USA at the 2024 olympics before giving Gil one last chance to get in the good graces of New York Knicks fans. Please throw us a like and subscribe if you enjoyed the show! Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GILSARENA and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: / @gilsarena APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Pre-Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 CHAPTERS: Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:06:27 Rashad Sets Things Straight 0:08:04 Gil's Arena Shootout Promo 0:10:25 Jimmy Butler The Country Music Star 0:21:23 Bomani Jones Enters The Arena 0:23:44 Best Hoopers Turned Rappers 0:25:14 Dennis Schroder Tells Tatum To Win The Chip 0:28:45 Lu Dort Won't Wear Hardens vs Harden 0:34:13 Craziest Reason You Ever Missed A Game 0:39:10 Team USA Rosters Prediction 0:55:43 Reacting To Ant Man's Posterizer 1:10:27 Who's The NBA's Most Violent Dunker 1:16:09 Trae Young Calls Wemby A GOAT Candidate 1:19:33 Is Coach Pop Untouchable? 1:22:36 Trae Young To The Spurs?? 1:27:35 Gil Analyzes Lakers' Offense 1:33:16 Rashad Wants LeBron to Get More Blame! 1:40:34 LeBron Played Against 35% of the NBA 1:51:55 Will LeBron Finish His Career With The Lakers? 1:56:26 Is Bronny An NBA Caliber Player? 2:01:04 How Players Train Their Sons For The NBA 2:09:03 MostlyFans 2:16:23 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:18 This is what I was doing when I was about to live. Y'all don't know what goes on in practice or the locker room. Welcome! Welcome back to Gills Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Woo! Damn. We got a lot of niggas here today. A lot of energy. Last show of the week, we got a special guest pulling up shortly. How everybody feeling today? Good, good.
Starting point is 00:02:15 I see you in the Gills Arena sweatshirt, designed by Mr. B. That'll be on sale at your first annual Gills Arena shootout presented by Underdog Fantasy this Saturday. What's that that velvet? Good material. That's good material. Beautiful. It's beautiful. It's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Yeah. Some heat on the couch right now. You good? What happened? What heat? Oh, it's just me. Oh, it's just me. I'm on the couch.
Starting point is 00:02:41 The heat's on the couch. I appreciate that. Nightmaster choices. That man, the couch. I appreciate that. Nightmaster choices, that man. I appreciate that. But this is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. As always, we got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us. What's up? We also got the legend Kenya Martin back with us on the couch.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Sad. Okay. And we got Rashad McCants back here with us. Yeah. Little Gilbert. What's the shirt say? here with us. Yeah, little Gilbert. What's the shirt say? Hip Alito's favorite, you know. That man's that man.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Yeah, that's me. I see you going to the notebook, Andy. Uh-oh. What happened? Okay, I just see the notebook coming out. It's going to be a glorious day in the arena. Can I address a few things? You may.
Starting point is 00:03:21 The floor is yours. I really just feel bad, man, because Gil just painted a picture of me yesterday as this strip club chasing, going, and always living in a strip club. No, I said you win. I have PTSD. Where you going?
Starting point is 00:03:36 I have PTSD, Gil, you know. Party, would you? I have PTSD, man, because strip club just done a number on me. Okay. Done a number on me. Okay, it's not a number on me Shelby and Jeannie from Las Vegas Crazy horse number three boys if you go down now you better ask for them
Starting point is 00:03:55 I'm trying to tell you number three number three crazy horse three ask for Jeannie and Shelby So when you say they did a number is it the same number they did on everybody else? No, it was a two point. You spend like five, ten thousand. We're going to call you after we get off of work and then they never call? It was one of them. And they promised to get nasty and they didn't.
Starting point is 00:04:18 You see what I'm saying? But I had to tell them I like Donald Trump in order to get back there. They didn't really like niggas like that. So I had to smell like black people in here. I said, what the hell kind of joke is that? Ladies and gentlemen, this is a Thursday. And as always, the views expressed on Gil's Arena are not those of Underdog Fantasy or any of their affiliates.
Starting point is 00:04:37 But we are here turnt up. Here's what we got cracking in the arena today. Team USA is close to announcing the 30 players trying to make the 12-man roster. But who should make the cut and who should not? Trae Young thinks Wimby can be the goat, but is that fax or cap? Look at the photo, though.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Big man versus little man. And AD is playing at an all-NBA level on both sides of the ball, but is he finally ready to take the keys from LeBron? And as always, the show is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. If you have not done so already, download the app. Use promo code GILL. They will match your first deposit
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Starting point is 00:05:24 We do hibachi time sometimes as well, he's fucking up in the back. We do hibachi times sometimes as well. It's a glorious Thursday. We do Mosey Fans. If you drop a good question in
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Starting point is 00:05:43 And as always, the show is live on YouTube. If you cannot join us here on YouTube, we got audio versions available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts from. So we've been talking about it all week.
Starting point is 00:05:53 We got the Dream Killer, Age of Zero. Ken, you'll be with me in the broadcast booth. But it is the first annual Gills Arena Shootout presented by Underdog Fantasy and it is going down this Saturday. I repeat, this Saturday at the District in Chatsworth, California I think doors open at noon, the competition will start
Starting point is 00:06:10 at 1 o'clock and we will finally find out who is the best shooter on this couch and as a reminder, if none of y'all win it turns into Josiah's Arena you can check the framing today, I'm standing, we're just getting prepared for the inevitable but we're going to change that shit in the back too wait, wait, what do you mean we'll find out?
Starting point is 00:06:27 We already know. What do you mean? We're doing this for him to try to even it out. He's got to even it out first. So we got our qualifiers taking on our Gills Arena crew and our celebrity influencers. All I know is y'all motherfuckers better not lose in the first round.
Starting point is 00:06:42 That I do know. All lowers, Ken? I'm disappointed in Kenyon. I'm disappointed in Kenyon. Standing on it. I'm disappointed in Kenyon. I'm standing on it. I'm a teammate of his. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:51 We won together. Big three? I'm so disappointed. Lower. That he would go lower on me and we won a championship together. Lower. I hit the fucking game winner with a midi. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Oh. And I hit a couple threes and one that was 2018. Whoo He going on no me and I don't get him 30 Yeah, you done 33 the average we go team we say average 20 years ago about what we Read 20 years ago recently. I'm on this under I'm reason I must have missed that I miss idle I'm gonna sure no, this is the big this is this is you coaching in a big three I mean, that's a this is a favorable. This is this is gill at 250 250 pounds
Starting point is 00:07:41 I'm gonna show you His DMs just went up. His DMs just went up. No, no, no. It didn't go up. Is that your word, coach? They just all unblocked me. They all unblocked me.
Starting point is 00:07:52 All his words blocked me when they found out I was on the show. They said, no, no, no. You're blocking them. No, no, no. We can't double dip. Let me block this. Them blocking them. They had the true side.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Had the true side. Lying to say. 10-1. They seen 10-1. They say, oh, yeah, this nigga's got it. He's got it. He's one of them. They had the true side. Had the true side. Lion to sin. 10-1. They seen 10-1. They said, oh, yeah, this nigga's got it. He's got it. He's one of them. So Gilbert talking a lot of shit for weeks now.
Starting point is 00:08:10 But for those who want to know the rules for Saturday, take a look. Welcome to Gilbert Arenas' $100,000 shootout presented by Underdog Fantasy. Let's go! On January 20th at the District in Los Angeles at 1 p.m. Pacific, Gilbert and a few friends will host the inaugural competition. Here are the rules. There are 16 contestants and four rounds. Round one will consist of 25 shots from 17 feet. The top eight contestants will advance the next round where they'll shoot 25 high school threes. The top four scorers will advance to round three where they will shoot 50
Starting point is 00:08:48 shots, 25 high school threes, and 25 college threes. The final round will also consist of 50 shots, 25 college threes, and 25 NBA threes. From there we'll crown our victor. They just gave me a hundred grand. And the best part? You'll be able to play along on Underdog. Fans will be able to make picks on Gilbert, Lexi, Brandon, Rashad, and our other contestants. Follow the action in the Underdog app and watch the shootout live on the Gills Arena YouTube channel. If you haven't yet created an Underdog account, use code GILL and underdog will match your first deposit up to $100. If you're
Starting point is 00:09:28 in Los Angeles and want to see the competition live, admission is free with an underdog account. All event information can be found in the description of the Gills Arena YouTube page. Some great voiceover work, Dad. Quick question. Some great
Starting point is 00:09:43 voiceover work. Is that second round, because it obviously has me in the second round already, so. Is that second round higher or lower 20 for real? No. No, that was just
Starting point is 00:09:52 an example. Just an example video. Just an example. Just an example video. Example me in the second round, huh? But Underdog will be doing higher or lower
Starting point is 00:09:59 for all the contestants for every single round. They got a special tab on the Underdog Fantasy app where you can pick higher or lower. So Gil's higher or lower for the first round is listed at 19.5.
Starting point is 00:10:08 That's a good one. How many middies do you expect Gil to hit, Kaden? I'll start with you. In the... 18. Okay. So 19 or below? 19. 19 or below, Gil?
Starting point is 00:10:20 I'll give you 19. Don't put up no bricks. Middies? 18. No, he gonna going to get 22. 22, 23. Do you mean it or are you just? No, because I just did it yesterday. So it was just.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Oh, okay. I expect him to show up for the middies, just sit there flat footed. It's just shooting for him. When you a shooter, it's form shooting. Okay. You don't do much for there. But back when, you know, back in Bangladesh.
Starting point is 00:10:44 He ain't got the knees. He ain't got the knees. You got to bend your knees to shoot deep. I created the word. know, back in Bangladesh. He ain't got the knees. He ain't got the knees. You got to bend your knees to shoot deep. I created the world. Yeah, back then. Back then. I created that world. You can't even walk up the stairs no more. Can't even walk up the stairs no more without holding on to the rail.
Starting point is 00:10:57 I shoot from the half court like you shoot from the free throw line, man. No muscle, no meat, nothing, baby. It's all in the wrist, baby. Yo, man. You guys have done a great job selling, this battle if you're in LA this weekend Make sure you come out to the shootout. We got food trucks We got ample security for anybody who's trying to test us And we'll be handing out some warm-up jerseys signed by the entire gills arena crew as well
Starting point is 00:11:17 So we have a shootout related mostly fans question from underdog user be Mac 32. Yes Am I gonna win? Yes win yes oh is that the question what up man my question is is the shootout gonna be shown live this weekend cuz I want to watch y'all win me money in that first round and then I want to watch Lexi smoke and washed up ass for me and be big players y'all stop capping especially you, Gilbert. You're a dad now. If you don't get your A, son,
Starting point is 00:11:49 don't forget your lunchbox and book bag ass the hell out of here. Mr. B, Brandon, you're a fashion designer now, okay? You ain't got that flame no more. Lexi got you, okay? Put that flame up. You go design her a headband to wear this upcoming season, all right? Ain't nobody worry about McCants'
Starting point is 00:12:02 old big prison push-up body having ass. LB's Arena all next week. Let's go, Lex. So, shout-out BMAC32 for bringing an ample amount of smoke. To answer his first question, yes, we will be streaming live on the Gills Arena YouTube channel starting at 1230. Be me, Canyon, Cheryl Swoops, the legend Tyler Am from the Sheet and Tyler Show. We got an emcee there whose name is Mouthpiece. We'll see if he delivers on that.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Gil, how much pressure is on you to win? His name's what? Mouthpiece. He's an emcee. It seems appropriate. It seems appropriate. Now, that's a little flagrant, ain't it? I'm just reading his name.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Ain't that kind of flagrant for the game that y'all play? Right? That's flagrant, right? Like yourself, I do not play those games. I'm just asking. That's a little flagrant, right? But how much pressure is on you to win the... You call him that, though?
Starting point is 00:12:56 What do you call him? Do you just... Hey, mouthpiece. When you say it like that. When you say it like that. That's like calling me, hey, jawbone. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you should, yeah. And when you say it like that. That's like calling your name, hey, John Bond. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you should, yeah. And shout out to BMAC32.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Yeah, that's it. I'm going to say his first name is Bernard because he called you Gilbert. When you say it out loud. That's like saying character, bro. When you say it out loud, Ken. Hey, Ralphie. Mr. P, I ain't calling no grown man delicious. It's like Superhead, right?
Starting point is 00:13:23 Shit. At what point did she get to that? Was regular head and we need to become super ain't that along the same lines or my bug you get super when everybody Like regular regular NBA player all-star all NBA Recommendations you know how much pressure is on you to win the first annual Gil's Arena shootout presented by Underdog Fantasy? I got no pressure. Ain't no pressure? No.
Starting point is 00:13:55 It's pressure, Gil. You know if all y'all lose, it's Josiah's Arena. If all us lose, but I beat him, I won. So it sounds like, it sounds. You talk with child. That's all. The other 17 is just atmosphere, y'all. I'm up.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Ready, ready. He losing the first round, I advance. I won. All right. I might as well just play one. I've been trying. He's been trying. I've been trying right. I might as well just play one. I've been trying He's a he'd been trying I've been trying to play was he ain't got the mama mentality. That's all I'm saying I've been trying you know, how many times can you call a man out and they?
Starting point is 00:14:38 They keep saying now 10 1 10 1 Until we all in one We older we gone. Mmm. It's 10-1. That's all I know. Until we old and we gone. It's going to be 10-1. Well, what happened? I won, you lost. That's what happened. I'm on the Kenyan train now, all lower.
Starting point is 00:14:56 All lower. I got to address this nigga. BMAC? BMAC 32. See, I love the jokes. I love a nigga that come with the jokes. But you look like my son, boy. You got, I love the jokes. I love a nigga that come with the jokes. But you look like my son, boy. You got to stop with the jokes.
Starting point is 00:15:07 With that Duke shirt on, with the green and the blue. This your fourth time on the motherfucker? Y'all ain't paid him yet? Y'all ain't paid him yet? It's in transit. It's in transit. Shit, why don't you call a rebound for me or something right now? You breaking your work-only rebounding rule for that?
Starting point is 00:15:24 Okay. It's some work. It's some work when you keep motherfucking asking dumbass questions. You know? Are you breaking your work only rebounding rule for that? Okay. It is some work, it's some work when you keep motherfucking asking dumb ass questions. Yo, what am I part of the same? No way they got this grown man saving his phone and his mouthpiece. Yes, he do.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Yes, he do. I hope that's what his check says. Hey, you said you did the five. Is he a DJ? You did already? Mm-mm. I ain't done nothing. Well, he just announced, so is he a DJ?
Starting point is 00:15:46 Obeyed to many talents. You didn't practice it? I shoot fitos. You didn't practice it? No, I just, in the living room, I just lay down and I just shoot. Envision it. Okay. See, I don't got to do all that shit you do.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Let's get into our show. It's going to be a very momentous occasion. The first annual Gills Arena shootout this Saturday, as you can probably tell. But if both of y'all get packed up, just be prepared. No, Jenna? What? Jenna Bande. She come for the band? That thing look good out there. I'm gonna troll
Starting point is 00:16:15 everybody. It's gonna be long for y'all to see. She's 0-6 against me. It's gonna be difficult for everybody to win. Yo, don't lose to a woman. 0-6 against me. Ultimate headbut't lose to a woman. 0 and 6 against me Ultimate head that's all fine. But that's previous. I'm Superman without the kryptonite Okay, all right Let's get into our show today
Starting point is 00:16:35 Jimmy Butler's man of many talents Hooper barista and even a country music producer in an interview with the Guardians Claire de Lune Butler said he's been working on a country album for over a year and already has 60 songs with a goal to record around 200. Now, I was going to ask, would somebody explain to me why this Negro is singing cowboy music, but Butler's more interested in being a producer and not a singer, saying I'm like the DJ Khaled of this thing. Will Jimmy get buckets in the country music game? Are you purchasing a Jimmy Butler album? Or are you getting it off Dat Piff? No.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Right, that's still around? I don't know. Dat Piff. Is he serious? I mean, is it serious? Has he put out a song? I mean, he did an interview. I know he did an interview.
Starting point is 00:17:17 So that's all we can go off of. I know Troll Jimmy did an interview, but I'm just saying, has any songs been leaked? One? Nothing? So we don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Okay. I mean, I'm just saying, has any songs been leaked? One? Nothing? So we don't know. Okay. I mean, I'm with the Boston Celtics now, so. Okay. You no more confidence coffee, no more Jimmy Butler related? Not rolling? What's his name again? Damn. There's Jason Tatum in them now. Kane, thoughts on Jimmy Butler
Starting point is 00:17:43 trying to get into the country music game? I'm about to. Higher or lower, five bangers on the album? Lower. Lower? Damn. Damn. Rashad, would you rather buy a Jimmy Butler country album or a Peyton Pritchard rap album?
Starting point is 00:18:02 Peyton? You rolling with Peyton Pritchard? Hey, it look like he got some Eminem. He got some Eminem shit. Some Negro tendencies. Yeah, Lil Dicky. A Butler country album or a Peyton Pritchard rap album? Peyton? You rolling with Peyton Pritchard? Hey, it look like he got some Eminem. He got some Eminem shit. Some Negro tendencies. Yeah, Lil Dicky. Wait, I mean, um...
Starting point is 00:18:10 Country is sad music, right? Nah, they be talking shit. Oh, yeah. You saying sad music? Yeah, you saying sad music? Like some of it, like, yeah, they just like R&B. Mellow. Little mellow, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:18 R&B, okay, okay. Just talking like this, though. Just talking like this, though. Just talking like this, though. Just talking like this, though. Just talking like this, though. Just talking like this, though. Just talking like this, though. Just talking like this, though. Just talking like this, music. Like some of it, they just like R&B. A little mellow, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Okay, okay. Just talking like this, though. If you listen to some of the words, though, it'd be... My work left me. It'd be rough. A lot of bad. It'd be dark, some banjos.
Starting point is 00:18:38 It'd absolutely be dark sometimes. Like, damn. Going through some shit. The melody. The melody. All four wives cheated on him. Slept with his brother and the boss and like, damn. Sitting outside on the porch with his dog, with a shotgun.
Starting point is 00:18:53 That scene from Life when he was reading. Oh, yeah. In the dog's den. In the dog's den. The dog had worms. Oh, yeah, the dog had worms. Okay, Jimmy. Okay, more power the dog had worms. Okay, Jimmy. Okay, more power to him, man.
Starting point is 00:19:07 We ready to get it? Mike, ready? Okay, well, ladies and gentlemen, our guest has finally arrived. Oh, damn. Probably before that, but nonetheless. We got a special guest making his debut in the arena. Seen him on ESPN and HBO.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Now you can watch him doing his thing on the show at the right time. We're Beaumont Jones. My God. Beaumont Jones, welcome to Gills Arena. What's going on, bro? What's going on? You good, bro? I'm good.
Starting point is 00:19:39 What's up, bro? How you doing? What's going on, dude? What's up with you, bro? Hey, man, I wish I could hoop. I pulled up here at a house across the street, looked like a steak and ale. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:49 I'm so stupid. I think that shit was. You look like a hooper, though. So before we get this thing started, I want to know, which NBA player is somebody mistaking you for? Or has it ever happened? Just any NBA player. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Right, well, my brother was in college, though. He's taller than me. He went to grad school in Iowa, and he'd get mixed up with every black dude that played in Iowa that didn't look nothing like him. He'd get like a pre-bottled Tanqueray at the liquor store. James Winters! I'm not James Winters. Hey James, you want this Tanqueray? I'll
Starting point is 00:20:15 score one for you. I will take it. I will take it. We're talking about Jimmy Butler doing a country music album, but a broader question. Who is the best Hooper-turned-musician ever, in your opinion? Got a lot to choose from. Shaq.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Do we really have a lot to choose from? I mean, that have made music. I mean, that's what I'm saying. We have a lot that have made music. I'm trying to think of who's... I mean, Wayman Tisdale probably got to be one, right? That was the dark horse in the mix. We ain't never listened to none of that.
Starting point is 00:20:40 That's not our... We don't have... My mama had it. My mama had it. We don't know. We assume. We were listening. I had a couple of them albums.
Starting point is 00:20:47 For real? What did you do? What was it? The sax? I mean, I thought he played a bunch of instruments. He played the bass. The bass?
Starting point is 00:20:53 Yeah, one of them. Yeah. We got Shaq, Damian Lillard, Cedric Sabalo's my personal favorite. Flo on. Ced. Who? Cedric Sabalo's.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Flo on. It was a banger in my youth. NBA's best kept secret mixtape. I remember. I remember. There was a bunchanger in my youth NBA's best kept secret Did it get no play in your ride Victor like not for listening purposes But it was cool to have to say you had it which one the basketball best kept secrets. Hmm. Nobody said opposite Ais on that list never listened to that the one he got bit they had banned Yeah, so like I collect vinyl and I found a copy of it and I went ahead and copped it and played it He tried it. That's the one thing about that, right?
Starting point is 00:21:33 He really tried it, you know Shaq was rapping like a dude who played basketball and had songs about bat Out and ours tried it. Oh, yeah, like this year 2000, like, I see why they called him to the office. That's why they said no. They're like, no. No. We ain't playing this. Because he wasn't trying to be cute and just be like, hey, I'm a basketball player.
Starting point is 00:21:58 I can make an album. He was trying to be a rapper. I'm from Virginia. Yes. I'm from Bad News, Virginia. Yeah. I'm from Yes, let's say new for new bad news, Virginia Yeah, I'm going with so Lazo ball. I mean out of all the rappers. I've listened to that song. Okay Dad Amos stack
Starting point is 00:22:19 Okay, but are they have they went commercial who they're gonna Know Dame can actually rap no like real like really rapping like I'm like for somebody who critiques people's music and I'm hard on rappers, mm-hmm They can rap You're rolling with damn bum on he can rap right like it ain't my speed, but he stack I was talking to be a crit about this, because Stack did an album with a Big Crit beat. And he was doing stuff like, if Stack was hitting you for a beat and he paid, because that was a big thing too, because most people don't pay. He's just trying to get the beat and not telling you that he's Steven Jackson.
Starting point is 00:22:57 He's just like, hey, I'm a rapper named Stack, can I use your beat? Get the check. And then Crit said he looked up and was like, oh shit, it's Steven Jackson. Like, he was like another one. He was trying it yeah Rashad who you rolling with I mean you gotta go with Dame I mean he's the most commercial successful he got features he got bars Rashad you got bars as well though yeah you know it's already too much about me at this point. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:23:29 Y'all heard... It's already too much about me at this point. You said nothing mixed. Hey, it was baggy. What was the one you had on YouTube? What? The one that you had the Gilbert Arena jersey in it. Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh. I already know where this is going. Kiss of death. Kiss of death.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Yeah. That's what you're going to get. The kiss of death. Kiss of death. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what you're going to get. The kiss of death. A lot of dudes got beats though. That's the thing. Chris Webber had to beat on the Nas album.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Okay, I think I ran out of dudes with beats. My fault. Close enough. Let's keep this thing pushing. KD. KD. KD got beats. He's a producer. He got beats. I think he went KD's got beats. Q had beats.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Q was my guy. Q got beats. Q Thomas. We got some North Carolina guys on this side. Yeah, that's my guy. So Dennis Schroeder recently gifted his former Celtics teammate Jason Tatum with an autographed Raptors jersey, which Tatum posted on his IG. So Schroeder wrote the following on the jersey.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Brody for life. Go get that chip this year. PS top five. So, Schroeder wrote the following on the jersey. Brody for life. Go get that chip this year. P.S. Top five. So, Schroeder's playing for the Raptors. Tatum's on the Celtics. Any issue with Schroeder telling a player from another team in the same conference to go get that chip halfway through the NBA season? That's the mentality of these motherfuckers these days, man.
Starting point is 00:24:43 We be talking about pride. Yeah, pride. Like, what are you doing? We all know the Raptors ain't winning shit Okay, here we go. We know that that's reality. He know it too, but still still Still see that's the problem. T motherfuckers, man Talk about it. Come on Walking up to a dude middle again, you you know you're my favorite player, man. For real. And they do that.
Starting point is 00:25:07 LeBron, I hear it all the time. Yeah, that's why they get their ass busted. That's a sign of weakness for a player to do that? Hell yeah. Punk ass, nigga. Let me ask you this, though. It depends what type of player you are. If he had done it in like April, right?
Starting point is 00:25:18 No, it don't matter. Like the season's over, the Raptors are out of it. No. Raptors eliminated, it's at least better. Ain't no point. Ain't no fucking point. I'm telling no fucking point. I'm telling no other team.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Listen, man, I done lost plenty of playoff series, and I hope the motherfucking team they beat us lose the fucking every game they play. I'm not wishing nobody good luck. Good luck, baby. Not a chance. I'm going to score a loop. When it comes to that point, man, I ain't shaking your hand, none of that shit after we lose.
Starting point is 00:25:41 I'm going to the locker room. No post-series dap? No. He a nice guy. He's a nice guy. No post-series depth? No. He's a nice guy. He's a nice guy. No post-series depth, though? Dennis is a nice guy. Man, I'm getting off the bench before,
Starting point is 00:25:50 let this shit get out of control. He puts dye in his hair. He's nice. He's nice. He's a nice guy. He ain't just a teammate, man. He's a nice guy. And, well, in his defense, he not even,
Starting point is 00:25:59 never mind, he ain't, he's a teammate. He's from somewhere else. Yeah, he's from somewhere else. He nice. You know what? I'll take everything back I said. He's from Germany. He ain't, no, he... Yeah, he's from somewhere else. Yeah, he's from somewhere else. He nice! You know what, I take everything back I said. Germany! He ain't even from here. He's from somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:26:10 He doesn't know how we function here. He's from the Deutschland? I mean, besides that he's given a top five player his jersey is one thing. That was where I thought we were going. Oh, that was the... Wait a minute. Who outside of Germany is like, yo, somebody just gave me the Dennis Schroeder jersey? That was where I thought we would go. Oh, that was the... Wait a minute. Who outside of Germany is like,
Starting point is 00:26:29 yo, somebody just gave me the Dennis Schroeder jersey? That's what it's two-folded. That's what it's two-folded. That's what it's two-folded, though. He offered it to him, and Jason Tatum took the book and posted it. Not the Germany jersey that you won the championship. The Raptors. I would take the German jersey would have been a much better.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Whoa. Hold on, though. He posted it, but it didn't look like he posted it like, yo, thanks or anything like that. He might have been posting it like, look at this. Look at this nigga. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I'm thinking. Like, look at this nigga.
Starting point is 00:26:55 I get the Germany when I want the Raptors. Like, the point of it was to get us to talk about it, right? You're like, yo, can you believe this? Can you believe this? Look at this. Get in this jersey. And say good luck. Like, good luck. You better win you believe this? Look at this game. This is very good. Nice. Good luck. Good luck.
Starting point is 00:27:05 You better win that, too. He got great penmanship. He said top five and all. That's a good teammate, though. It feels like the message on there was just to keep me in mind for this trade deadline. I know y'all looking for that. One of those. How important is it to maintain the connections with superstars just in case you need to get on their roster?
Starting point is 00:27:23 You know, as you put it like that, this is a smart play. You the GOAT. Bust our ass. Y'all need one, right? Y'all trying to short this bid? Y'all got five? Y'all got five? Y'all got five?
Starting point is 00:27:34 Y'all got five? You want him? You want him? I'm taking a discount. No, that's... Come on, man. You're not hearing it at all. No.
Starting point is 00:27:42 I need work. He might need work. It's like Brian and Tristan Thompson or P.J. Tucker and Harden. He's trying to find his. You need work. I understand. I mean, look, when did you guys think I got these jerseys? But look at you all.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Before games, after games. After games? When we won. Yeah. Hey, I know I gave you 40, but look. Can you sign right there and make it to me? Can they do that? The only two was KG and AI.
Starting point is 00:28:18 If KG lost, hell no. If I lost, hell no, unless I had a good game. That's when I got that one. I still had a good game right we lost so both of us are still happy Hey, he go here sign as AI. I had to become all NBA player before he even looked at me Lay AI he just looked straight Chuck hey Okay, he won't talk today, huh? Yeah, so soon as I made that All-NBA, hey, what's up, Gil? How you doing, man?
Starting point is 00:28:46 Hey, that jersey you wanted me to sign two years ago, you still got it? Yes, I do. That worked in every industry. I think all the people who never knew who had it back pocketed. Gil, you're going to have it back pocketed. I got it on TV, and then we was homies. Every game, there's that one dude that sees you, don't say nothing. You have some level of accomplishment.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Yeah, you did. I was taking that jersey to the club. that sees you don't say nothing. You have some level of accomplishment. Yo! Yeah, you did it. I was taking that jersey to the club. The A.I.-signed jersey? No, before, the empty one. That one. Trying to get it signed out.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Trying to get it. A.I. or A.I. the club? What? Take it. Done. And nah, man. You should've had the work. I was straight fanboy.
Starting point is 00:29:23 I ain't even gonna lie to y'all. I couldn't get a kg Jersey I played on the goddamn team was home. What he would need time. What's it for me? Motherfucker He was different. Yeah, he was fucking asshole sometimes Let's keep this thing moving Lou Dort Arizona State alum Just like James Harden Dort has worn Hardenens in every game this season except when he plays against Harden. So the
Starting point is 00:29:47 Thunder played against the Clippers on Tuesday so Dort opted to wear some D-Roses instead of Hardens. The legend Nick DiPaola, a part of the Tough Crowd crew, he asked a great question. Would you wear someone's shoes if you were playing against them? Kenny, I know your answer but please, the way you're staring at me
Starting point is 00:30:04 I understand. You know, you're not wearing somebody You know, what if they look great? What if they're comfortable? Great laces. What shoes did you wear in the game then? Nike's or Reebok's? Were you wearing anybody's signature shoe or did... No significant... Michael Jordan.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Okay, that's all I was looking for. I mean, shit. Later. After he was gone and departed, would you wear somebody's shoes if you were playing against him? Yes. I wore the Kobe Space ones against him. The Moon boots? The Moon boots. In the Wizards color, right?
Starting point is 00:30:47 He's with Nike now. So I said, yo, we playing them. Can you please make me these, right, in our color? And I wore them. Tapped it all in so he could look down. He looked down and was hot. Like, he looked down. They look better, don't they?
Starting point is 00:31:04 I look better than that purple and gold don't they and He must they ask he just sees it. He's just petty. You know I'm saying like you gotta respect that With a mastermind I gotta throw him off it didn't do it it didn't help with the moon. No, no it didn't it No, it didn't do it. It didn't work that irritated So With the moon balloon. No, no, it didn't. No, it didn't do it. It didn't work, right? That irritated him. I can tell you that joke. Yeah, you shook it. Yeah. So.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Mr. Dreamkiller. How did that go for you? I had my own signature shoe. Okay. So you were wearing your own shit. Not rolling with nobody. Every year. I had my own little shoe.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Okay. I wasn't tripping. Bomani, what'd you wear? Wait, hold on. What was the name of them? They called Lucky. Lucky. They were Lucky PEs.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Look them up, Statman, Statman. Not gonna lie, I got a license. Looking for me, I got a phone. I'm looking at my... No, I just, no, I never, I wouldn't want... Lucky P... That feels like a, I don't know if I can... Type my name in too, you gotta type my name in.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Not just McCants. I'm too competitive for that, dog. Yeah, like that's a level of gotta type my name in. I wouldn't know. Not just McCants. I'm too competitive for that, dog. Yeah, like, that's a level of humbling yourself before somebody that I don't know. Oh, I don't have it. You don't have that bone in you? But, Marty, would you wear someone else's shoes if you were playing against them? I can't see it. I can't see it. I just... I feel like you lost already. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:32:20 That's real. Definitely. See what Mike told him? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely No, okay when you saw in the post Still on the resale market The lucky peas Okay Who's fine the lucky pees? Okay Okay
Starting point is 00:32:58 What's the over-under that Gil shows up to the gills arena shootout in the past You can't give them information so close to the competition. Would you do that that? That's what it feels like. You're going to drop a bar like that? He already got the notebook out. He already got the notebook out. Or he's going to have a crew of people just wearing your shit. Again, when you saw opposing players wearing your shoes, did that give you a mental edge over them? No, they never wore my shoes. They weren't rocking what you liked?
Starting point is 00:33:16 They didn't wear low tops. They wore the high tops. That wasn't mine. Yeah, back then we was high tops. You know, so like, you know, that version of the shoe, um, that they had to wear the high-top, which looked different, but, you know. This boy played in some Air Max. He played the NBA game in some Air Max.
Starting point is 00:33:35 It's some Dolce & Gabbana stuff. No, the Air Max. No, the Air Max. The blue boy Air Max. The Air Max. This boy's... We all look like, man, ain't no way. This boy's out his mind.
Starting point is 00:33:43 But you know the best thing about, like, having a signature shoe, right? You get to control who wears it. So who asked to wear it and got vetoed? I didn't veto nobody. Because the idea, you know, like, T-Mac wanted him to be himself. Like, everybody, like, they only, like, allowed people who were other stars to wear it. And I was like, well, if I want my shoe to sell, then I want anybody to wear it. So a bunch of people was like, yo, can I?
Starting point is 00:34:10 Yep, yep. Kyle Lowry is probably one of the biggest ones. For sure. Because he wore the low top every year. Because of him, it was like, yo, can we just re-release these? I'm over the hood. Kyle Lowry got it again. Kyle Lowry got it again.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Kyle Lowry got it again. That's smart, man. That's smart. Yeah. All right. Well, let's... Yeah. Shifted over to the Pacific Northwest.
Starting point is 00:34:35 DeAndre Ayton had to miss the Blazers game Wednesday because he got stuck at the crib due to ice sheets in his neighborhood. I live in L.A. I don't know what ice sheets are. Perhaps some of y'all could. Minnesota. What is an ice sheet? Shit. Ice. I don't know what ice sheets are. Perhaps some of y'all could. Minnesota. What is an ice sheet? Shit.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Ice. But it's just... They're black ice. No. You can't get the tire to spin. You got to put chains on your tires. But can you put on some boots and walk through it
Starting point is 00:34:56 to the nearest open area? Like, how do you deal with ice sheets? I mean, you could. Risk it. Yeah, can you slide down? Can you slide down the driveway and just walk like the rest of the people in the neighborhood Nah, ain't nobody else walking everybody else in the house in the crib I think people need to understand though in them cold weather places
Starting point is 00:35:13 If you can't come to work, you really can't come to work because that is not that story doesn't work, right? Like yo, it's cold. It's cold outside. I can't come that don't work up there, right? Because if they if it did they never get any work done Right. Like, yo, it's cold. It's cold outside. I can't come. That don't work up there. Right. Because if they if it did, they'd never get any work done. So I know when I was working radio in North Carolina one time, I had that happen in my where my car was parked outside my house. Couldn't get out. And I was like, I guess I'm not going to work today. I called him up. It's like, hey, man, I can't make it into work. We got this sheet of ice, man. They sent that four by four to my house. Are you coming to work? You come to work. They like, hey, man, it's a radio show going to be a radio show
Starting point is 00:35:46 no matter what. Right? Somebody got to sit down and do this. That's the same thing as a basketball game. They not canceling this basketball game
Starting point is 00:35:53 because you can't come to work. Right? You making your big ass out here. Everybody else here. Right. You the only one not here? You better make arrangements.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Right. All the fans can make it to the arena. Not you, man. You know, he's from the Bahamas. You know he calls them up like, hey, I don't know what it is. it's been him like yeah, I ain't coming to work I can't make it whatever they're like, don't you know?
Starting point is 00:36:09 And then they got there was like damn you really can't come You couldn't walk down like so he reportedly spent hours trying to deal with the ice and the blazer sense of staff to try and help But they couldn't get it done in time. So I'm just you can't come here, but I can walk down there They were saying sending carrier pigeons to each other with messages. What about a water hose? Mm-mm. Was the water hose water going to be warmer than... What do you think the water going to do? Gil? Salt.
Starting point is 00:36:34 What do you think the water going to do? I want your answer. Freeze. Okay. I wanted to know. I wanted to make sure you thought about that. Not if it's really even cold or high. It don't matter. Listen, I messed my Ferrari up trying to, because I didn't know nothing about black ice.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Didn't know what that was. And out my driveway, boom. Wow. Hit the pole. Thought that was cute. Tried to drive out into the middle of the street. Boom. Hit the pole.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Hit the pole again. More black ice. And my injury, that first year when I got to Washington, because I didn't know nothing about snow ice. Um, I Was leaving a little late-night venture right leave a little late-night venture. Okay, that's how I pulled re-pulled my growing So work related injury, you know, just walk in and juke. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah one of them caught it. Ah Had to call hey. Yeah training last night at the gym and uh
Starting point is 00:37:26 Left and slipped on some Ike like that shit hurt too. Yeah, that was I I'm the type of falls like Mike Tyson fell off that motherfucker whoop and hit your back And I think I need a back of yada man. I never seen nothing like that before just slip pulled McGraw in again What's the craziest reason as you've ever had to miss a game for that you can share on the show within reason? Miss a game I Missed the game. Oh, I know I never missed a game for I missed practice because They didn't play me the minutes I wanted my second year
Starting point is 00:38:04 Mr. Oh, they fined me. They fined me for something, so I missed the next game, so I get a check for free. You got to set examples around that. You fined me five grand for missing the plane, I missed the next game. $100,000. Free check.
Starting point is 00:38:21 $95,000 upgrade. Try that shit again. That was the last time they find me. I say that Movie about that whole era the NBA when people do stuff like this Everyday thing you think you know how long it take you to come to that conclusion? Oh, y'all fired me five racks. As soon as I received the thing. Hey, what's this? What is this? Five, what?
Starting point is 00:38:53 I missed the plane I had to fly myself and you're going to fire me too? No, no. My ankle hurt. Did you fly commercial, PJ? Yeah, I had to fly commercial. Southwest? Yeah. Where'd you flew off? United First Class. United First Class? Probably. Southwest? Yeah. Which you flew on? United First Class. United First Class. Probably. Look at you.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Kenny, what's the craziest reason you ever had to miss a game for? That you feel comfortable sharing? Nothing crazy. No, I ain't. Or a teammate that you may have seen without naming names and incarcerating the innocent? Oh, yeah. No, it's that shit missing the team playing shit and Gotta get to the next city and just say fuck it go home Like it's like that's why like I'm not going to the airport. I'm just gonna go home. I
Starting point is 00:39:33 was like oh Yeah, I wouldn't and I wouldn't miss it nothing for so we had I miss game it was for a reason we had What's the best reason that you had to miss it? Oh, best? No, it's just something related to my kids. Okay. Like, no, it was birth and... Any fisticuffs on the court that you wish you could take back
Starting point is 00:39:53 or wish you would have... No. Everybody got... Yeah, them suspensions was, yeah. They was all... You heard them? We had... This back...
Starting point is 00:40:03 You know, we all was in... Well, not we all, but most of us was in the drug program smoking. So one guy wasn't supposed to be in there. He was scared. And we had these niacin pills that we used to take to try to get it out, flush it out our system. He ain't never took none of that shit before. And so we gave to him the morning practice before we take the plane to the next city. And that man took the pills before he could get on the plane. And this man was itching, scratching.
Starting point is 00:40:39 He in the car. He calling us. We on the speaker. He's like, man, I don't think I'm going to make it. I can't breathe. I can't and he's I'm like bro are you driving he's like I don't pulled over I had to pull over and he was just in a rage like screaming how I can't say his name is but he ended up getting to the plane he was laying on the fucking on the floor of the plane on his on his
Starting point is 00:41:04 stomach and he was praying just praying that it go away and they told him like look just just let's go home just go home nice kind of pills nice and nice and side effects diarrhea vomiting dizziness itching fatigue rapid heartbeat headache bro like you're dying inside what is it for for? It's for the cleaners It's get the way one of my teammates from one of my high school teammates live in Portland He said the arena was for that nigga just didn't want to play It was a game so Shut out the prep
Starting point is 00:41:42 Well my is this a crazy DMP that you heard over you think of something that's a normal DMP I got yeah, I can't think of anyone that just jumps out I just love the fact that cats with millions of dollars on the line to try to be drug test the same way as somebody 17 years old trying to get a job at McDonald's they taking the same shit by drinking the same tea Why you just don't show up just hop just ooh, I missed the flight You trying to get it out of we had to because we get drug testing we get to the to the John So, you know the trainer tell us yes you you you before when you get that car The day the morning the morning before the pins on how cool you are with your with your trainer
Starting point is 00:42:20 So we told us before we or how cool we showed up this way He's like, alright a y'all gonna y'all gonna get yes soon as we touch down to the arena y'all gonna get okay We should get a day notice. Yeah, yeah We had people with the wizard native I had teammates with the with the whole thing pulling it out like oh, yes Too much. Oh Just put it down Joe I just put it down. Yeah, I just put it down Joe Just put it down
Starting point is 00:42:51 You'd be calling me up a college drug test It was the there's no like standard or what college drug testing is and then he's paying as much attention as they feel like right Like there's no set rule that this is what you have to do in Some places a lot of dudes get pop Some places nobody does they probably got the same number of people doing the same thing that it's got different attitudes Some places like UCLA got the literal piss expert doing it. So you can't we're getting the shakes the whatever I walk around with no deal though College I get tested now one time in college me neither the worst was
Starting point is 00:43:24 Four years and get tested not one time in college. Me neither. The worst was the tournament one time. Four years, I didn't get tested one time. They would do the one during the tournament after the game, and if you failed that one, you had to sit out for the whole next year. Yeah, I didn't get not one drug test. The whole next year? The teams you were playing off, if they were like, we gonna be testing for drugs, how much of a team would they have had left in Cincinnati?
Starting point is 00:43:39 Like, it was a few dudes smoking weed, like, all the funniest shit ever. So the school popped the drug test for the whole athletics, right? Like for everybody in athletics, like the school did it. Few dudes on our team failed the drug test, so Huggs called the emergency team meeting. So you know, I'm from Dallas and you hear this. So Huggs went around the room,
Starting point is 00:44:00 you motherfuckers wanna smoke dope, right? My mind automatically go, which which way y'all smoking crack 20 at the time that's my mind automatically think crack Crack I was like man who in here smoking I said it who ever smoking crack man He was like no read test I'm like you we have you hot heads he just going in I was like no you read test I'm like you weed have you potheads and he just was going in I was like yo Like all that you talk. Oh, yeah, man. I thought y'all was on it We had the Walton so that just tells you Nothing nothing, but you know test game no matter what the job is like my parents are college professors
Starting point is 00:44:43 I'm telling you now they start drug testing college professors. Ain't nobody teaching college. Yeah. Like, you're just not going to have, there's a whole line of jobs. They're like, yeah, I mean, we could do that. But no. No.
Starting point is 00:44:52 Like, there's nobody showing up to do this shit if that's the case. Like, if they ever start, like, testing teachers for smoking weed? No. You'll be, everybody will be homeschooling. They'll be stressed. They'll be looking at us.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Little motherfuckers every day. All day long. Ooh, you little motherfuckers. You get on my nerves. As a people-watching adventure, right, just go park outside a dispensary one day. Watch the different clientele that go in and out of that month. You're going to be like...
Starting point is 00:45:18 When's the last time... 9 to 99 in that month. When's the last time you went to New York? Because New York is different than everywhere else because legally, anywhere you can smoke cigarettes, you can smoke weed in New York. 99 in that month like when's the last time you went to new york because new york is new york is different than everywhere else because legally anywhere you can smoke cigarettes you can smoke weed in new york so five o'clock you just stand in any street five o'clock five colon oh oh colon oh one somebody just popped right out of that building this doesn't know the secretary stock broker whatever right you hear that spark all the way across like now now that you can just smoke in New York
Starting point is 00:45:47 You just like oh everybody in New York's now you realize every like every we didn't just pick this this have it up No, it's been going on. It's just been everybody been hiding. God bless, California banning urine tests recently marijuana Major step That drug program NBA some bullshit some bullshit anyway But that's the difference between NBA and NFL the NBA Right you need your stars. So when you're doing testing anyway, you need to curve it for your players, right? So the biggest trick was, you know, you know, you're getting tested right? I'm about to get tested this morning I'm a smoking ticket edible and then go there'm about to get tested this morning. I'm going to smoke and take an edible.
Starting point is 00:46:25 And then go there and say, I'm in the... Oh, I'm dirty. I'm in the... I'm dirty. Cliff, I'm dirty. I want to be... Cliff, you took the words right out of my mouth. Cliff and dirt.
Starting point is 00:46:33 I need help. Hey, dirt. And then they're going to test you. And whatever your level is, just be lower than that every time. That's it. That's it. So you can smoke weed during the season. Voluntarily. And don't even have to worry.
Starting point is 00:46:46 As long as it's lower than that first test, which you heightened it for, then you're good. That's why, when was the last time you heard someone get popped for weed in the NBA? Oh, no. Well, I mean, I'll- 20 years? 20-something years? I think JR might have been the last person got suspended for it. Nah, OJ, I think. No, no.
Starting point is 00:47:04 No, that ain't weed. That ain't weed. OJ didn't get suspended for no weed, boy last person got suspended for it. Nah, OJ I think. No, that ain't weed. That ain't weed. OJ didn't get suspended for no weed, boy. Nobody got suspended for no weed. Because, man, at first you get a warning. No, you get a warning. You get a fine. You get a second fine.
Starting point is 00:47:15 You get a third fine. By the time that happens, Caesar's over with. Two and a half. Two and three quarters. If you know it don't never get to the... Listen, man, you get that first when you got into the program 25,000 yeah cool Not as things
Starting point is 00:47:35 Me was the simple 25 Man, I'm going to every time. Hey, I mean it dirty Did you have to see the counselor to the dirt the therapist man? I said I had to go to the therapy Whatever whatever tell everyone I wanted Right in my car right outside this nigga and light up Man you get that call for the home Get the blood both of those was helpful. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Get that back. I'm not trying to ruin your product like the NFL did. They got the vent and got the... The NFL slowed down on all that testing, too. Pandemic came, and everybody just had to be like,
Starting point is 00:48:15 bro, what the fuck? It was the Josh Gordon thing. Yeah. It was the Josh Gordon thing. But I really think the pandemic hit, and everybody was just kind of like, what are we doing right now, man? I'm stuck in my house all goddamn day, man.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Y'all really going to trip over this right now? And everybody just kind of had to be like, like that was the thing with the bubble. I know they was like, look, we got to talk about this. We're going to hold us up basically captive in a compound. You're going to, come on, man. What are we about to do here? They stole that from the big three
Starting point is 00:48:40 because when Cube allowed us to do all of that, it opened up. They was going to do that shit, brother. We was doing it, but it made it like a systematic thing where y'all should start thinking about letting athletes go. Sean, I hear you. I hear you. But you put 450 NBA dudes in one place.
Starting point is 00:49:00 At Disney World? At one place. I'm thinking of what I would have did do to put me in that confined I'm bringing it with me for sure for sure because I can't leave I can't have nobody can bring it to me and I can't leave I would have two pounds and I didn't mother easily I'm just saying how long with that two pounds. Oh, I'll just rest it. Okay You is supplying you was a man you know, you gonna need some oh no, that was a thing anyway, no We do the same I know how we tell you you had the same choice ID
Starting point is 00:49:45 No, bring you okay. You're not gonna sit there like bars with us and. To bring you home. K, you not going to sit there and play cards with us and not going to pass that blunt. No, no. Who? You. During the pandemic? Doing anything. All right, brother. You didn't pass the blunt.
Starting point is 00:49:53 That's when the passing really stopped. Everybody needs their own. I wasn't passing before that. Hey, I wasn't passing before that. Pass. Stop. Stop casting. I wasn't passing before that. We all spoke it, man.
Starting point is 00:50:03 What you talking about? Give you your own. I want to give you your own. We all smoking, man. What you talking about? Give you your own. I wouldn't want to give you your own. He wouldn't want to be the one to know to have it. Like, who got it? Yeah. Kay got it. And I'm going to give you your own to smoke.
Starting point is 00:50:13 See? He going to have to stress that shit. But I'm not going to give you nothing out of my bag. He going to have to stress that shit, right? I'm not going to give you nothing out of my bag. I got them already stuffed and here you go. Appreciate that. Jimmy Butler would have been in that mother selling.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Damn it. You need a quarter? you go. Appreciate that. Jimmy Butler would have been in that motherfucker selling. High price. High price. Damn it. You need a quarter? You need a quarter? OK. I got another one. That's going to be $1,000.
Starting point is 00:50:32 What? That's going to be airport prices. Prison prices. $1,000. Prison prices out there, Moe. This man was selling coffee to teammates. You know Jimmy would have been in like, yeah, he can't eat a pound. That's going to be $7,000.
Starting point is 00:50:40 He was charging for a cup of coffee and one of us would have stole his coffee. He was like, I'm going to pay you $7,000. I'm going to pay you $7,000. I'm going to pay you $7,000. I'm going to pay you $7,000. I'm going to pay you $7,000. I'm going to pay you $7,000. I'm going to pay you $7,000. I'm going would have been there like, yeah, he can't eat a pound. That's going to be $7,000. He was charging for a cup of coffee. One of us would have stole his coffee machine. Oh, for sure. We need
Starting point is 00:50:51 them coffee beans. You said two pounds in a bubble. Bubble was 93 days. We got a very, very good production and research team. Announced every about three days. That's about three pounds then. Two, three pounds. But speaking of getting smoked, after a disappointing performance in the World Cup,
Starting point is 00:51:08 Team USA is looking for revenge. So according to Mark Spears of ESPN and Anscape, USA basketball men's national team expected to announce a pool of around 30 players that can be selected from to create the 12-man roster for the 2024 Olympics in the coming days. So when you look at this list of potential options for Team USA, who do y'all feel like is a lock for Team USA in the 2024 Olympics right now?
Starting point is 00:51:35 The 12 best players in the NBA, that's America. That's it, right? We don't need 30 motherfucking people to figure out who the 12. We just picked these 12 players Put the list up that took that shit down 12 best players like the dream team did and then the dream team to did right This does do that Christian later was on the dream team good because he was supposed to been the best college play what they gotta do
Starting point is 00:52:07 Play star are you saying? To Choose a lot. Hey Anthony Edwards is a lot Anthony Edwards in be Halliburton Tayson Tatum Devin Booker. I think those are the locks And if you go with LeBron a lot Kevin LeBron'sron. I guess he is still going to be out here playing basketball. He got to get one more goal. He got one more in him. Steph? I mean, ain't nobody locked at that age.
Starting point is 00:52:32 So let me ask. So we pushing Tyrese all the way in front now? Hey, listen. What I put, Braun, Curry, KD, MB, Tatum, Ant-Man, Davis, PG, and Kawhi. Oh, PG and Kawhi. Yeah, yeah. So you got Tyrese over Tyrese. And then I have Booker and Tyrese.
Starting point is 00:52:51 As alternatives. What Tyrese is doing right now, pushing that second unit, I don't see how they take him off. One, because he can stretch the floor and he can push the ball, right? So just when you have Booker coming off, like you have Booker coming off the bench, you have like Andy Davis coming off the bench,
Starting point is 00:53:15 and man, he's finding all those people. So what he's been doing the last month, that probably pushed him in front of the Fox, the Dame. I think just, I love, listen, this is my guy. But I don't think he's, like, the one year that he's had, like, he has to give me more consistent years of doing the same thing. Like, the Fox, Kyrie, and other guys you name it have been consistent with their play.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Even Trey Young, not to have him up there. And to have him just jump ahead without having, without having three, four years of proving it. I think he's a way better player than Trae Young. And what they need right here, not this list. Who are you taking off this list? I'm taking off Bam, Banchero. Damn, Paul DeBanker can't get on? I don't think Dame is going to go. Bam, Banchero. Damn, Paul DeBanker can't get on?
Starting point is 00:54:07 I don't think Dame. I think, you know, I don't think Dame is going to go. Kenyon said it, that, you know, off-the-court issues, he probably need to handle. What's going on, man? But, yeah, this is an opportunity to do it. You're going to do it. Kawhi and PG get added to this list, right?
Starting point is 00:54:24 One, if not both. Both. One, for sure, if not both. No Harden? One of them. If not both. Both. One for sure, if not both. No Harden? No. No. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:29 I don't need a Harden when I have a Tyrese. I'm just asking. I mean, are we sure that Kawhi Leonard wants to go? You don't need a Harden when you have a Tyrese? The Olympics ain't in San Diego.
Starting point is 00:54:37 You know what I mean? Like, are we sure that he wants to make it? No, what? Wait, what? Wait, wait, wait. Like,
Starting point is 00:54:44 are we sure that he wants to go play in the Olympics? Yeah. He's not like everybody else. He's not going anywhere he can't drive to. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He's not like everybody else. That's the only reason I'm asking. If it ain't up or down to 405, I'm not really fucking with you.
Starting point is 00:54:55 Unless it's actually obligated. I'm asking. You don't need a James Harden? I'm a Los Angelino. What do I need a James Harden for when I already have a Devin Booker, I have a Kevin Durant, I have a LeBron James, I have a Jason Tatum, I have a Joel Embiid. I have those guys already.
Starting point is 00:55:15 I need someone now that's just going to pass the ball unselfishly, that's going to push the tempo with the guys who want to run. James Harden does that. Is KD going to play? And he can take off. Is KD going to play? And he can take off. Is KD going to get out of the way? Is he going to? Because you know the way he think.
Starting point is 00:55:30 No. I just think how he might just give an opportunity to a younger guy or something like that. Yeah, that's why all the older dudes, my question is, especially the ones that already have done it. No, I think at this point they're trying to win, and they know most of those young guys are not ready now. Four years from now, yeah, I don't think those guys are ready now.
Starting point is 00:55:49 So I think, I will hope that they put in the best players like the first two teams. Right? You know, when someone's like, where's the role players? A star. A star is a role player. I don't want a role player role player. When you put their asses in the game What they do role playing so no role players on not even one good glue guy
Starting point is 00:56:12 Yeah, fuck is a blue guy. I'm feeling like I don't want no Tyson Chandler on my team Don't do a bad on this no not when I can make Anthony Davis come off the bench Why I want BAM if I can have Anthony Davis come off the bench. Why I want Bam if I can have Anthony Davis come off the bench to Joel Embiid. The role player on the Dream Team 2 was what? Hakeem and Shaquille O'Neal. That was the role player. They both averaged 29 and 12 that year.
Starting point is 00:56:37 History has shown us what those 2000s, the Larry Browns, that's who fucked the USA game up, trying to put in these role players, these guys that we're going to make it glue, we're going to put a team. Well, didn't they get stuck because nobody wanted to go? No, that's when?
Starting point is 00:56:53 04? 04. Now, the fucking chance, they didn't even ask. They didn't even ask. Oh, really? I assumed that they was just getting shut down. I went to Puerto Rico and qualified. They didn't fucking ask me to play in the fucking Olympic team.
Starting point is 00:57:03 I had that backwards. I had always thought that the setup there... I was an all-star. And they didn't... And I played in the team that was in Puerto Rico. Go look up their Puerto Rico team. We looked it up before, right? That Puerto Rico team that qualified. If we take that team to the Olympics... No issue? No fucking issues with nobody.
Starting point is 00:57:39 No, that roster, guards. J-Kid, A.I., Mike Bibby. We had Vince. Marbury was on the team, right? I don't think Steph was there. I don't know if
Starting point is 00:57:49 Steph was there. I don't think Steph was there. Not for the call party. We had Vince, Tracy, myself,
Starting point is 00:57:55 Tim Duncan. Got the FIBA roster. I think Richard Jefferson was on the team. 2003? I'm on this one. 2023. Oh.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Might have been Jermaine O'Neal. You had Jermaine O'Neal on there. So I can read it. Like you said, A.I.J. Kidd, McGrady, Jermaine O'Neal,
Starting point is 00:58:10 Vince Carter, Nick Collison, Mike Bibby, yourself, Ray Allen, Tim Duncan, Elton Brand, Richard Jefferson.
Starting point is 00:58:17 I don't even remember Nick Collison being there. Yeah, but that's it. You got Nick Collison, Richard Jefferson, like, nah. I would like investigative journalism
Starting point is 00:58:24 on how Collison got down there. I don't even remember being there to be honest. What do you mean? Even if you were going for retaking the best college player at that time, Nick Collison is not the call that I'm making. Nick Collison was a fucking animal. He was a fucking
Starting point is 00:58:39 animal in college. We talk about going to the Olympic qualifier. Don't look sexy. He was a monster. I'm not saying he wasn't good. I'm saying I'm surprised he got that phone call for that. I'm not, for sure. I've asked y'all previously, but how do you feel when you hear this roster?
Starting point is 00:58:56 Halliburton, Mikael Bridges, Cameron Johnson, Brandon Ingram. I'm done. I'm done. You don't need to hear no more. Hold on. You got a couple of these names in here that you're trying to put in there. Bobby Portis. I'm trying to put a couple of these names in here that you're trying to put in there. Bobby Portis, Anthony Edwards. I'm trying to put a couple of these names that was on there that you're trying to put in.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Tyrese and Ant. The ones that didn't qualify. Tyrese and Ant. Right? Tyrese and Ant. That's the only two. You said Bam was on that team? Bam was not.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Jalen Brunson, Josh Hart, Jaron Jackson, Walker Kessler, Austin Reeves, Halliburton, Mikael Bridges, Cam Johnson, Ingram, Banchero, Portis. So it's Banchero, Ant-Man, and Tyrese is on that team. Yeah, Banchero. Banchero. Second-year player? No, that's... They put a bunch of role players on there.
Starting point is 00:59:34 So is Tyrese a role player? Who? For this team, yes. The guy who's averaging 20 and leading the league in assists. You just said you don't want no role players. I want a star as a role player. He's not as a role player on his team. These guys were...
Starting point is 00:59:47 Four of these guys were bench players on their team. Not starters. So wouldn't that make him a star on the FIBA team? Would it make Tyrese a star on the FIBA team? He came off the bench on the FIBA team. He wasn't a starter. But wouldn't he be a star on that team? this is this year. He was still going up right? He's still going this way. So why would he get this not for this is the way he's playing?
Starting point is 01:00:27 My best my best game. Village damn near finished. Move around. My best game in Olympics, we're playing Brazil, right? I'm averaging 29. I'm a bench player, right? I'm a role player coming off. Now think about this part.
Starting point is 01:00:47 I came in, Dwayne Wade got hit in the eye, right? So he had to come out. So while he getting his little eye fixed, Gil, hurry up and get in. When I got in, right, hit a shot, boom. Picked up a Barbosa full court, stole the ball, right? Passed it, we got fouled. Got the offensive rebound on the free throw line We went up that was the game right there. So you'll get out good job a role-playing gonna do that
Starting point is 01:01:19 Right because they don't have the quality a role players a role player. They're not impact players I don't need some glue guy coming in because when I really need something to happen, does he even have it in him? Right? Those role players this summer, who actually went in the game and did something for you? Nothing. They're all used to playing the role. Cam Johnson, what he did in
Starting point is 01:01:40 the USA game is what he did in that season, the same shit he's doing for us. But, Gil, to your point, superstar now trying to go into a role-player mentality, used to getting to rock every time, used to being the man, used to being him. You think that's easier for them to embrace that role, or are they going to start being salty when they don't get as many looks as they get normally? I don't give a fuck about his salt. I want, when we're having a race against the country,
Starting point is 01:02:00 I want a Bugatti coming off the bench for a Bugatti. Period. I don't want a dude that's a Honda coming in trying to make a race What do I really expect for him good gas mileage James Harden a Bugatti? He's not playing better than I am writing you dad. I asked you if he's a Bugatti or not Not right now. It's a classic Who's gonna make the all-star game? GT shield, right? It's not James. Oh, no, it can still go fast
Starting point is 01:02:30 James Harden in Houston like this But right now I see y'all told him in there. I get it. This guy's never it's up Yeah, James Harden playing like like when we're talking about this team. I so players Why do I want another ISO player when I can have somebody come in that's going to push the tempo. Don't turn the ball. Don't turn and make these. James Harden playing on an Olympic team right now, playing his role on an Olympic team right now. No, he's not.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Right now. He's not on an Olympic team. Yes, he is. So is Bones Holland? I don't mean that those bones are catching straight right now Or Norman Powell or Zubat, but okay. I mean we're not gonna say he don't know what I'm talking about This is about the four players on the floor out there. Okay, there's very very good Yeah, and he fits in let me have that piece to make it all click a gold medal game is like a game seven
Starting point is 01:03:20 Right. Mm-hmm. You want James Harden on your team for game seven right now? Yes, I mean we got 15 years at this point he got it now six years ago no I wouldn't I wouldn't have won it last year what do you mean last year what happened last year a big fella didn't show up everybody on their phone looking for research he's been playing the same way all year I don't feel like a game seven in Boston maybe my memory's bad I don't feel like a game seven in Boston. Maybe my memory's bad. I don't remember it was like James Harden put up 43 in a valiant losing effort.
Starting point is 01:03:49 I remember it being like James Harden. Who was not playing? Who was not playing, though, B? It don't matter who James Harden plays within those games. It goes the same way. Joel was not playing. That's why he had 47. That's why he had 43. Joel was not playing that game. He had to show up. It's my tea
Starting point is 01:04:05 I got to do what I need to do when big fella came back James was like, all right You the MVP do your thing. Hey James Harden's averaging or he has a Superstar team right how you see average? Are you about to go to Statman? That man there are you about to go to Statman Statman? I mean is this we know how many sisters the averaging with the the all-star eight, right if Ty Reese was on that team. How many assists do you think he will average with that group? We have 20 we have no idea Because they would have to change the offense they had to do everything that they're doing in Indiana Just to make it to him and you know, that's not the way they play
Starting point is 01:04:43 The Indiana plays a specific way where those shots are coming from the system, and he knows where to get it. Boom, boom, boom. They don't have a system in the Clippers. They playing together. A bunch of good players have figured it out. Think about if James Harden had that system, he would have 15, 17 assists. Cap.
Starting point is 01:05:00 Same thing. Who? Same thing. Play too slow. You play too slow. Whatever. That's what I said. I don't need you playing slow in the Olympics right now. I? Same thing. Play too slow. Same thing. You play too slow. Whatever. That's what I said.
Starting point is 01:05:08 I don't need you playing slow in the Olympics right now. I already got that. An assist is an assist, slow or fast. Man, the faster you play, I think the more you're going to get. Lord have mercy. Langer, we have very clean glass here at Gil's Reef. He pulled the Josiah. Hit the deck.
Starting point is 01:05:23 It happened. I've seen all of that. Gil, player, you have to bitch on me, Gil. I'm just glad you smiled because it was real. Glass here at the girls It was really Okay, you can cry over there The Curly Banes helped her out a little bit, but... A little cushion. Got a little cushioning and stuff. It's real. She went push. You got to go to the tent. Perfect time for a segue. No, but just take the 12 best players, man.
Starting point is 01:05:53 That makes sense. Perfect time for a segue. We've all seen the Ant-Man, MJ comparisons. Y'all said Ant-Man should be... Just that they look like each other. MJ may or may not be, you know. His pappy. His pappy.
Starting point is 01:06:03 How the pappy? So we've seen the Ant-Man-MJ comparison. And while it remains to be seen if Ant will get to Jordan's level in terms of individual and team success, Ant's athleticism is definitely on par with his airness. Opportunities for Cat to expand his offensive game with that three-point shot. Cam Reach, he came down. Ooh! And Edwards!
Starting point is 01:06:20 Take another look at Edwards. That's violent, hostile. Young nigga works. Oh Rep you gotta call the foul man that those last two triples that he took that he was getting what do y'all think about this? This is a man posterization. It's better if there was a foul call to take the time. So the right here. No, I don't give a shit Let them plan on sports in and rewind the shit on five times they don't keep playing it those are moments moments man, sometimes the restaurant like so do you know that you know that charge they do if you do it now you cheat My heart it in the city make your mind up So if you do it now, you're cheating. Nah. It's part of the entertainment. It's part of the entertainment.
Starting point is 01:07:05 Make your mind up. It's part of the entertainment. Who he dunked on? He called us in and we stopped. We're like, why the hell they called the fire? And there's one extra point, too. Who he dunked on? There's one extra point at the end of the game, too.
Starting point is 01:07:13 He dunked on a Pistons and won. And didn't say something. He won Detroit. He won Detroit after his ass. But that's what we do sometimes as refs, right? If you want to make the play look a little better, I'm not saying. They could have done a little. You're saying they could have done something for the production.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Yeah. Review for a play. Be animated with it. This is the one I don't like, right? When there's a charge, there's a charge, and the person gets dunked on, and then you call the offensive foul. Oh, yeah, after the fact like Like either it's a no call and let it go right so you want to cheat no
Starting point is 01:07:55 In other words warm to cheat a rep told me this he said to be honest Make the dunk You're not out of control. What? If you miss it, charge. So is he going to be a charge or a no call? I'm not going to call the and one, right? Because he's in position.
Starting point is 01:08:17 So now you're cheating. Because if it's Kyle Lowry, he's always in position, right? And if I dunk on Kyle Lowry. Clearly it's a charge. But you make it make it in one Man one. Oh, I mean just no call. It's a no-go. There's some things that's just no calls There's some things that happen. Okay, no call like I'm not gonna get rid of the spectacular play. Yeah, it's a reverse It doesn't no call because there's not a foul. Yeah, not a foul. So that's the reason that it's a no call Yeah, he wasn't in position. Huh? He wasn't in position. There was no foul to be called
Starting point is 01:08:49 Hey, if you don't if somebody was down there and I'm a guard and I'm sitting there taking the charge I'm taking it and you dunk on me as the referee stop minding my business Let me get notice you you don't don't a man one should a sorry young fella get up And one! Ah! I'm getting noticed. You! You dunked on them and one. Hey, sorry young fella. Get up. You the ref that think they came to see you.
Starting point is 01:09:12 Yeah. I see what that is. But I know when to do it on little things like that. Right? So you get the favor of the guy. And one! Yeah! It's like, this, no.
Starting point is 01:09:25 So what if you're the one getting dunked on? You still want him to call it the other way? Because it don't stop. I didn't ask you that. Huh? It don't matter. Don't move that goal post now. Huh?
Starting point is 01:09:35 So if you're the one getting dunked on, you still want him to call the block? Clean charge too, Gil. You got there. I'm there. You still want him to call it the other way? If you dunk't know me Yeah, and they called up an offensive foul. You still wanted to be was it did you still dunk on me? Absolutely? Okay? The only people who's doing it good job is my teammate the other
Starting point is 01:10:06 22,000 people Whether that you got dunked off Remember like nigga I got you The ref call that bullshit I got Clean don't don't want to not be like we don't don't yeah yeah we cut that out before we see what actually happened the aftermath of that It just can't Can't save it anybody I can get to that like just back to the dunk if People throughout history that can get to them that two feet that way land him that land about issue man
Starting point is 01:10:38 Yeah, anybody I can get here with that thing move throughout the history of the game You better watch out yeah that takes some audacity right like just the fact that i think i'm gonna do this hey man you gotta look at his face when he was about to do it you've seen it he's like oh i'm about to get you trace mcgrady dunked on sean bradley in that playoff game come to the corner and they asked him after the game and he said i wasn't sure if I was Gonna dunk it but then I saw Sean Bradley and I knew I was gonna That's what that was. Yeah. No, it was my mission throughout The bigger the better the taller I'm getting you well, I'm five man Yeah, so if you were playing in the league right now, you saw we're everybody
Starting point is 01:11:21 Give me you don't see my see my go KJ rookie year. Everybody, hit list. Biggest one here. I have to block and dunk everybody. Say I'm a foot and above. Same mentality. I was the same way. I'm looking for you.
Starting point is 01:11:34 I am searching you out. So who's the most violent dunker in the league right now? Who's the most violent dunker of all time? Violent? Like they come with extreme hostility, hostile territory. I like a man is up there then I'm gonna go Strohman Swift man, okay all time that mother fucker. I mean can you know second? But stroh who shot up. I think yeah number one Sean the violent. Don't you go mom? Yeah, you got this. Wait, hold on. But like, but the violence. Violence.
Starting point is 01:12:05 Jekyll O'Neill, man. Violence. No, violence. It wasn't violence. Violence. It wasn't violence. That was abusive. He was abusive.
Starting point is 01:12:11 Young Shaq. Young Shaq was abusive. He was bringing all the ribs. No, no. I feel like Shaq and Darryl Dawkins, it was like violent against the equipment. Where Shaw Kemp was being violent against the weapons Amari on the collar for kids.
Starting point is 01:12:21 Yes, Amari. Oh! That kind of violence. Then it would have been what then shit you Amari Blake Griffin This charter still makes that list No, it makes them this Yes, it was just pretty well Back on the Lazo board at that time that did that feel
Starting point is 01:12:42 Mullen underneath my focus going out of bounds. He grabbed that bitch with one hand behind the back. Oh, Zoe, it's me and you. Come here. Put that bitch here. Come here. Listen, dawg. It was a birthday show. Rookie year, he went up and down on the tumble on the baseline.
Starting point is 01:12:55 Yes. Because it's rookie year. It was like Shaq had a rookie year tour where he dunked on everybody. And Vince Carter did the same thing in a lockout season. Shit, he went backwards upon him. But that's what it is. But that's what it is. What are you doing?
Starting point is 01:13:09 It didn't seem violent because it was so beautiful ray and done it was race Oh, it was like nasty, but when we talk about violent, we're just talking about people Who's I was attacking it who's trying to take you in they like anger in a play Dominique Wilkins is another? Yeah, that's going on Dominique probably made a video violence. That was violence like when you have a violent like it sounds like the rim is being broken. There's no it's like Oh, yeah, you go watch that nice stuff. It's not artistic. No, right? two hands He was looking at it was like I hate you. I hate you I
Starting point is 01:13:38 feel especially the city years, but just cuz again Adam He was mad that was When they when they come down and they have a step you just move yeah My dunk on Jermaine O'Neal is It's up there. Okay, but you're done so violent. I can see anybody in your family and see the way they jump in I wanna that's one of the Martins It's up there. Okay, but your dunk's so violent, I can see anybody in your family and see the way they jump in. That's one of the Kenyan kids. That's one of the Martins.
Starting point is 01:14:07 Like, damn! You knew his shit was violent when he dunked it and he tapped the ball all the way out of the fucking dunk. And he got to throw the ball back. And then he answered the ball back. Throw it back. Trying to time it coming out the net. Dunking and swinging, trying to hit that old kid.
Starting point is 01:14:23 He was getting blasted. Westbrook. Westbrook. Westbrook was violent as fuck. Oh, yeah, he was flying. To your point, Sean Kemp, though, I love Sean because after every dunk, he'd have something for you, a point, a little shimmy shake. I was him in high school. Sean Kemp would get in the dunk contest about every year
Starting point is 01:14:39 and get eliminated in the second round because it didn't work that way. You know what I mean? Charles Barkley was violent dunking, but you don't put him in a dunk contest. Sean Kidd was the same way. I never was in dunk contests. Yeah, I never was.
Starting point is 01:14:50 So you mentioned if you was playing now, you would dunk on Wimby, but let's shift it a little bit. Recently, we talked about how dominant Trey and Wimby's duel would be in San Antonio. So on his From the Point podcast this week, Trey had high praise for Wimby. Thinks when it's all said and done, Wimby could be in the GOAT combo.
Starting point is 01:15:05 He's going to be a beast in this league as long as he can play. His presence on the floor alone is impactful, and just on defense, offense. He can do pretty much everything, and it's everything that everybody's been saying about him. You can tell he's humble. He competes. He wants to work hard. He has all the intangibles to be the best player ever. The accolades and team accolades as his career goes on is what's gonna determine that so collusion
Starting point is 01:15:29 My mom I redo a segment called Facts or cap so I'm gonna ask you a question You tell me if it's facts or cap you tell me why? Trey young saying Wimby has all the intangibles to be the best player ever facts or cap X The dude is seven foot five. I don't even know what the wingspan is. I've never even seen anybody bother to measure that shit. Right, like it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:15:49 It's like what's the temperature of the sun? That shit's really hot, right? He's seven foot five, he can do all that stuff and he got it in him. Like I was in Vegas for the first game in summer league and I know everybody on Twitter had jokes. Nobody in the building did. We was like, we watching the future right here directly in front of us.
Starting point is 01:16:07 My only question is, I can't understand why they so sorry. Like, as bad as they are, is it the Pistons and the Spurs have both been sorry for so long that you're not supposed to still be this sorry. After you go get a dude that good. Somebody not as good as they say. Who? Who? Who? Who?
Starting point is 01:16:24 Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Somebody somebody not as good as they say
Starting point is 01:16:29 Into the jigsaw killer I will simply make the point that Every time everything we said about Bill Belichick in football this year? Applies to Greg Popovich. Real sick, bro. I've been saying this. Every single thing. You're not supposed to be sorry for four years in a row and still be all-time sorry. They as sorry as the Pistons. You look at the point differential on them, it's the same as with the Pistons. Somebody got to explain something.
Starting point is 01:16:58 You got to explain to the dude. Do we have any San Antonians who care to defend Greg Popovich? I'm just saying they got news. They signed the big extensions. They've been getting decent draft picks. And they still one of the three worst teams in the league. And Vic looks as good as we thought he was supposed to look.
Starting point is 01:17:15 And they looking him off. That is the next part. All them dudes, it's a team full of Ricky Davises. I thought Big Phillip was here to help me. Everybody looking at him Ricky. I thought Big Phillip was here to help me, right? Like, everybody looking at him to say, like. I thought he was here to help me. Damn, the pop star.
Starting point is 01:17:30 Hey, look at that. That was a funny one, though. But here's the thing. People talk about it like it's slander. I'm just asking you, who else could have four straight years like this and never have to answer for? Man. And every year, people make the same argument. Well, they just getting worse to get better.
Starting point is 01:17:43 When they did that in Philadelphia We wouldn't tolerate and we called it, you know, we and I definitely did it I was not here for none of that Sam Hickey shit or what they were pulling Are they trying to be good if they haven't been trying to be good for four years? There's somebody got to answer that the Pistons we know they trying to be good. That's what makes it worse How do we get here? Well, shit. I mean, just... Drop the mic.
Starting point is 01:18:07 Just show me the lie. That's all I'm asking. But he ain't gonna fire himself? No, he ain't gonna fire himself. He knows what he's doing. Yeah, nobody gonna fire him either. But if it's a matter of some of these dudes
Starting point is 01:18:20 they got now gotta get out of there, they gotta have some hard talking to the people, you gotta actually get a real live point guard Mm-hmm. Do y'all feel like pop is untouchable though? Like yeah, how many how many consecutive years? Can you do this? It's still as many because he got a five years. Thank you. Hey, Jesus. Here we go But you know what I think it is man
Starting point is 01:18:42 And it's hard to say cuz because I'm a Greg Popovich guy. You look up there and this guy look like your grandfather. It's hard to tune in to that. Yes. And to buy into what he's saying. Like, I understand you got five, but this shit ancient that you talking to us, dog. You can't relate to us. You got to get somebody in there that can relate to them young boys, man.
Starting point is 01:19:15 Well, let me ask you, is he still kicking it like he used to kick it? Absolutely. Because the point that he's- Reading books and all that. Listen, man. But the point that he's making is- Video games. But is he out here talking crazy to him like he used to talk crazy to me
Starting point is 01:19:26 I like Tim and them, you know Cuz I was the thing he can get away with that stuff with Tim cuz Tim would take it Yeah, same thing with Belichick. You could get away with that when Tom Brady was taking it Well, I'm not passing out books and shit them dudes. Yeah, don't ask in the back Call the do the kids ain't trying to hit that shit man that kumbaya shit Where's Fortnite at, man? Where the fuck is that damn? Where's Fortnite at? Where the fucking caller do that? Them kids ain't trying to hear that shit, man. That kumbaya shit, man. It's a different type of kid.
Starting point is 01:19:50 They're not. They're not trying to hear that shit, man. Ken, you see it at the Lower Love Guild. You see it too. It's a different, they're not built. And you got foreign kids on your, like, dude, they ain't. The tradition is gone. They're not trying to hear that.
Starting point is 01:20:02 I'm just, I hate to say it. They're not trying to hear that shit, dog. That shit is, that shit like Charlie Brown's fucking teacher in that bitch, man. You play for Bob Huggins unfazed. I'm just saying, you play for a guy like Huggins unfazed. I don't know if that shit flies or not. Even the Patino style, that stuff doesn't really fly. No, it don't.
Starting point is 01:20:17 You got to change. Because I can get you fired now. One wrong thing. You just don't register these days. But Gino was just talking about Ari Emma I was talking about their Yukon like two days ago about how it's hard to coach these people because They don't respect you at all. They can literally go to a different school every other year get your coach and he's like
Starting point is 01:20:38 Well, there's no respect for me telling them or critiquing them now because they're not even looking at me Like I'm somebody that can do that But they go to difference and they go to like different type schools now. Because like you went to Lincoln in Dallas, right? No, I went to Bryan Adams. Bryan Adams. Yeah, but. But like Anthony was the thing that interested me when I saw what school he went to. I was like, oh, you went to Therrell. Like this is a actual high school, right? With like actual high school dynamics and the people that are around and people who've known you forever and they deal with you in that way. It don't work that way when you bounce, right?
Starting point is 01:21:05 Like you have the power at every turn. Everybody's trying to keep you in every place. And this is like broader society stuff, but not everybody went to the military, right? Like all this stuff starts with... All the coaching in America starts with the military. And everybody, their coach in high school was some dude who had gone off to fight in whatever war, whatever it is, but that was like the intellectual center of coaches started with the military and then trickled on down. And it don't work like that no more, right?
Starting point is 01:21:29 So they talk to you like they talk to people in the military. Everything worked around that. It ain't that world no more. No, nowadays we talk to you crazy. Nowadays it's everything go be okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You want a trophy? Okay.
Starting point is 01:21:42 Mama buy you one. No, like I remember. I can't no strong basketball player or nothing, but I remember when I played in middle school, the first time I came home, I told my dad, I was like, yo, man, you know, this is a white man too. Like, yo, man, they ain't here talking crazy to us and all of this. And I expected my dad to have my back.
Starting point is 01:21:58 And he was like, nah, that's just how this works. If you're going to do this, this is how they're going to talk to you. And you're going to have to decide if this is that complete I didn't talk to me about this at work, so My dad eating that tight right like they wouldn't talking to him like that at work But he was like if this is what you gonna do This is how it works and it didn't mean they didn't like you nice thing about Huggins Huggins talk about that crazy shit But everybody knew the Bob loved him. Absolutely doesn't work the other way in this
Starting point is 01:22:24 That was the reason I clashed, because I wasn't having that shit with Roy. It was like, hey, hey, hey. My daddy don't talk to me like that. You're not about to talk to me like that. But the dude before Roy was worse, right? He tried to be until I said the same shit to him, too. Hey, hey, hey. We not having that.
Starting point is 01:22:40 I don't know who you think you is. You's not daddy. You don't want me to call daddy up here. Daddy come up here and sit you straight on his own. Rashad, Trey Young's saying Wimby has all the intent to be the best player ever. You saying that's facts or cap? Facts. Facts?
Starting point is 01:22:54 Facts. Two facts. Collusion. Collusion? Get what you think Trey Smart. He getting traded over there. Yeah. You think it's going to happen?
Starting point is 01:23:03 Hell yeah. Because if, think about it, if you pop, oh, Trey Young says this is going to be the future, that means he's going to be, he's already bought in to who this guy is, so he's going to be looking to get him the ball. I'm trading for that guy. Can you imagine Pop trying to coach Trey Young? I'm asking you that. Like, look at how it's going with the dudes they got now.
Starting point is 01:23:24 Pop trying to coach Trey Young. Somebody going to have to go. I think Trey will first. He already bought in. You already said this is the guy. So you're coming in already saying he is the best player ever. So that means you're going to be looking to get him the ball. Hey, look, Trey willing to throw it up there,
Starting point is 01:23:40 but that ain't why Trey come to work every day to throw the ball to people. We're going to get some focus, too. But that ain't why Trey come to the hand come he don't come to work every day to throw the ball to people If he passes but he not having trouble with Quinn right now He was having trouble with me. Yeah, they was the old school fossil when is the new school? I get it. I mean, you're gonna be funny. Yeah. Hey Oh, that's the we met right young saying I'm gonna do just like this I Think so Okay, thank you just but we fax with the asterisk with collusion for Trump, okay
Starting point is 01:24:25 Okay, Trey, I'm saying when B has all the intent to be the best player ever. Facts or cap? Best player ever? Yeah, that's where I... He could be. Is he going to be? Yeah, that's my... But the intangible
Starting point is 01:24:35 skillset... I give him that. We ain't seen nothing like that. When you see that walking in, and he's hitting this in warm-up...
Starting point is 01:24:41 I get it, but I need... It's one year right now. Yeah, but one-legged threes, I'm just saying. Just one year, right? It ain't even the fourth season yet. Like, I just give me, give me.
Starting point is 01:24:49 As you watch it. Yeah, I don't know. As you watch it. Damn. I'm just saying, yeah. That's how you deal with the Browns. I'm just saying, yeah. You saw the Browns not to go?
Starting point is 01:24:56 I'm saying, before we talked about when we came in the league, we didn't know, you know, we were like 18, 12. He has the tangibles to be the best ever because he has all the will he be potentially there's different can and will Yeah, I'm calling cat okay, because it's because they had key word in that phrase Just saying right old school way of coaching right fucking Nate Macmillan The moves ain't trying to get off the bus and go to fucking shoot around, man. Like, they just not. Like, you can't talk to them and treat them like, no, like, man, hey, they ain't going for it.
Starting point is 01:25:33 Nope. And they make more money than you, so. I mean, we always made more money than our coaches. So, but anyway, well, they're making way more money than their coach now. Let me tell you, that's changing. The dudes at the top of the roster are, but we are now out of that point with middle-level exceptionists making more than the coaches.
Starting point is 01:25:47 Somebody paying Monte Williams how much money now? Yeah. You know, like they, somebody got wind of that and was like,
Starting point is 01:25:52 okay, we need to flip this up. We need to flip it up. But what's that feeling like for you guys when you're making more money than the dude who's supposed to be
Starting point is 01:25:58 telling you what to do? That's, it ain't even about telling dudes what to do, man, like, especially at that level. But do you still respect the coaches based on their coaching acumen?
Starting point is 01:26:09 Or is it like, you're a broke boy, dog. No, I ain't buying no money. What is your job? Your job is to put us in the best position. Yeah, it ain't about telling me what to do. So if you're not doing that, then that's when you get questioned. Okay. Well, let me ask you this. How long does it take you to sniff out whether or not this dude got it or not?
Starting point is 01:26:29 Because I've heard stories about a team figuring it out in one practice. This dude ain't it. Training camp. Training camp. Just like what we doing in training camp, houses flowing in training camp, what we not working on, what we working on, what's missing, who they cut, who they keep, like all that shit, bro. Strategies.
Starting point is 01:26:49 Going through all the different... We ain't worked on fucking side out of bounds yet. We got a game on the game tomorrow. We supposed to red this on the side? What we doing? People always talk about when basketball players wind up in a coach killer situation,
Starting point is 01:27:05 but I make a different argument. Nobody knows when it's time for a coach to get fired faster than the basketball team. Basketball team figures that out. They talk about it amongst themselves. Somebody gets appointed to be like, hey, me and the fellas, we was over here talking, and we think it's about time for some changes. And you can look at it as a mutiny, but that is not what has happened. There's been research that has been done by a focus group,
Starting point is 01:27:25 and they decided that this show is over. We're going to put something else on at 730. In Minnesota, the one thing that I seen and knew, Dwayne Casey was up out of there, he's drawing up a fucking play, and everybody was looking, and we didn't know what the fuck he was saying, and KG was so mad, he just took
Starting point is 01:27:41 the clip. Give me this motherfucking shit. Look, man, throw the ball to me. You go here, you go here. Boom, boom, boom, boom. Let's go. One, two, three, team. And when that happened, it's over. Yeah, he was like, oh yeah, he's done.
Starting point is 01:27:52 The Chris Boyd's matching. Y'all used to bring it in after the time out? Y'all used to say one, two, three? Yeah. Like that shit? Not necessarily. Not all the time. Oh, we all just got up.
Starting point is 01:28:02 We all just got up and just, you know. Yeah, not every time. For the fucking team. Which y'all do.. We all just got up and just, you know. Yeah, not every time. We're a fucking team. What y'all do? Y'all just walk out? Yeah, man. All right, I see y'all out there. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:10 Niggas just all got up. Niggas just got up. I don't even know if I would have participated, to be honest with you. I don't remember bringing in. I don't even know if I would have participated, to be honest with you. Fuck we put on. I don't remember. Yeah, I don't remember.
Starting point is 01:28:18 Like, I get it when we little kids and you're trying to build teams. One, two, three, team. One, two, three, what is this? Yeah, maybe. I'm trying to do it. Two, three, what is this? Yeah, maybe. I'm trying to do it. Two, three, what is this. Yeah, I don't remember. Like, I get it when we little kids and you're trying to build teams. One, two, three, team.
Starting point is 01:28:26 One, two, three, team. Yeah, maybe. I'm trying to do it. Two, three, maybe, maybe. So when it comes to Trey Young saying Wimby has all the intangibles to be the best player ever, we got a majority crew that says facts. We got great sound effects on the show. All right, let's talk about the most important team in the NBA, the Lakers.
Starting point is 01:28:47 Uh-huh. Hey, wait, we almost had, hey, hey. He was three games ago, he was almost on his out. Who, Darvin? Yeah. Like a dicey. When you got two starters sitting on the bench like. That's what I'm about to say.
Starting point is 01:29:00 Yeah, man. Man, these motherfuckers keep playing, you know, 32 minutes averaging two points, man. We're going to get the fuck on out of here. So, Lakers were mid for most of December and January after they won the in-season tournament championship, first ever NBA Cup in league history. Just preface that. Were mid most of December, January.
Starting point is 01:29:21 Peer will be back on track now that Darvin Hamm is prioritizing offensive lineups. As we've already said, Darvin Hamm is prioritizing offensive lineups. As we've already said, Darvin watches the show. You've been extremely outspoken about him doing it. Glad to see that he's listening to you. We'll see if he gives you any credit. So they got a win over the Thunder Monday and the Mavs Wednesday.
Starting point is 01:29:41 So AD nearly dropped his second triple-double the last three games, 28 points, 12 rebounds, 9 assists. LeBron added 25, 8 and 8. And D'Lo led the Lakers with 29 points. 11 for 20 from the field, 5 for 7 from 3. Doing his thing. Said he's always confident and never wavers, even when he's in a shooting slump.
Starting point is 01:30:04 You know, is that a cap or a fact? But big win out there. Maslow fifth in the West right now. Thunder second in the West. So good game. We mentioned that Darvin was on the hot seat. And AD looking like a beast. Can you rewind that? The official saying.
Starting point is 01:30:26 Right there? No just want to see... No, no. The beginning. From the top? We have very limited technology at Gills Arena, presented by Underdog Fans. Right there. Pause. Pause. Go back to AD at the top of the key if you could,
Starting point is 01:30:44 Paolo Priest. Okay. Right there. Right there. Okay, I already know what you're going to do. So you see number two, right? Y'all see who number two is, right? The worst shooter on the court.
Starting point is 01:31:04 You see his man don't even know where he is. He's looking at Anthony Davis and Anthony Davis only. And that's why you don't have these guys on the court. Because a smart player, let's say Sean Marion, Sean Marion would have been at the rim already for that lob. They was doing it all night to all night They've been Prince Henry Prince was doing the same shit sitting in this bit You can't sit your man is not even looking at you. You should already have moves
Starting point is 01:31:34 If you go set a pick and roll on Luca your man don't even see it This is how you have to be effective in the game Yeah, sprint out of that corner or you should have you should have been at the rim looking for the lob. Your man is taking his charge. But they're teaching space the floor. You can't space the floor if you can't shoot. That's what they're teaching. We got to play basketball.
Starting point is 01:31:57 They're teaching space the floor because it gives AD space to move. But we loading up. The elbows and box. But there still ain't no space. There ain't no space. But if you loading up, elbows in box. But there still ain't no space, right? Ain't no space. But if he's a shooter, he ain't in the paint. Yes.
Starting point is 01:32:11 No, for sure. If this is a charge. He at the Moderna side. Think about it. AD goes by his man. The guy who's taking the charge is Vendo's guy. Yeah. So this could have went the other way easily. But that happens all the time.
Starting point is 01:32:28 He beat his guy. He's playing against the second guy. If you have a shooter out there, he does not leave. My problem is with Dallas defense. Tim Hardaway Jr., what the fuck are you doing? Yeah. It's guard the ball. We're all as a team guarding the ball.
Starting point is 01:32:44 You ain't even look he wrote He drives right by you you you guard that you elbows in boxes elbows in boxes And I'm gonna backdoor you not know cuz I got a nigga on the box Yeah, you got a dick on the box because number twos in the game. He wouldn't He wouldn't be in this guy too much. I'm Tom out strong side box. I'm forcing that pass I'm forcing that pass to the corner. I'm forcing that. Who's in the far corner right now? That's, uh, Christy.
Starting point is 01:33:09 Rui. Rui right there. That's Christy. So it's elbows and boxes. So if I backdoor, I'm going to backdoor. Who is you? I'm, um, Reeves. I'm going to backdoor. You're going to, that corner guy's going to take me? No, if you backdoor and i'm what am i helping you yeah you're at the i'm helping on ad you're at the elbow that means the weak side guy
Starting point is 01:33:30 got the back door the same dude uh calibra whatever this garden he's got the next rotation yeah that's and then whoever who is that uh garden uh ruey he's dropping down that's williams he drops down to get whoever goes in. Exactly. Just how you played it is the reason why Van wouldn't be in the game. Because you have to rotate and he's the shooter in the corner. Because what ends up happening is, if I
Starting point is 01:33:56 know, if I backdoor, if the bottom guy is the help guy, then I need my shooter all the way in the corner. I need a shooter. I need the space so he can't help. And that's why, like you said, you hate having this dude in the game. I need a shooter. I need the space so he can't help. Like you said, you hate having this dude in the game because in any circumstance he's going to be the one that ended up with the ball
Starting point is 01:34:11 because he's going to be wide open. Because he's in the shooter's spot. Yep. If that's Kyle Korver, ain't no damn way you're trying to take charge. We got to change the whole concept. That guy ain't trying to take that charge. He ain't picking up that because that's the shit.
Starting point is 01:34:27 And that's where Sean Marion, when you try to do that, Lob City, because the pick and roll, you're trying to hit Amari. And that left Joe Johnson. Joe Johnson. Or Q Rich. When they got Hill. This was a, damn, I wish I had a.
Starting point is 01:34:42 Hill will go all the way under and where The other side of the block and here zip up you pass it right to him and he'll hit a Mario on the road Yep Right, but that's you need to be active and that's that's the only thing I hate about cuz yeah, you know Set a flare You got to create we talked about this shit other other day, man. You gotta create a problem. Yep.
Starting point is 01:35:06 If you not, if you can't shoot, you gotta create a problem for the defense. Right? And that's by moving. Yep. Activity.
Starting point is 01:35:15 Setting screens, being a surprise, flashing in it, doing something different. Yep. Other than, you gotta keep a motherfucker honest.
Starting point is 01:35:22 If you can't keep a motherfucker honest when you're out there, you're not supposed to be out there. I'm looking at you like I'm a rover. I'm roving, y'all. I'm the rover because this motherfucker, he with us. He with us. He on our team. I would have cussed him out if I got that charge
Starting point is 01:35:36 and I was, man, you an NBA player and they leaving you? Let's talk a little bit about AD. Averaging 25, 12 forces, two and a5 blocks this season. Most importantly, he's only missed two games. But Omani, is AD finally ready to take the keys from LeBron and be the guy? Yo, it's so crazy we asking this about a dude in his 12th year in the NBA.
Starting point is 01:35:55 But he playing with LeBron. I don't mean that as a bad, but it's how are we 12 years deep? Like with so many players, it's the wildest thing in the NBA now because these Jews play Forever, you know, the might of medicine is different We still like well What do you think after 12 13 14 years like the way we talk about 15 year James Harden like I don't know I think he's this close to figuring this out. Like what are we talking about? Right? And so I think he two things come to my mind Spots and stripes. Yep.
Starting point is 01:36:26 But I'll let you finish. Yeah, but he's like, I think he's probably, is he a better player than LeBron right now? Probably. Can he be your best player? Probably not. Like, can you say, all right, we need you to get this done. It's you and Jokic, right?
Starting point is 01:36:40 It's going to be between the two of y'all for seven games. Can you do it? He was so good against Jokic last year and that shit did not matter right like for whatever reason I don't think he could be the guy to be like okay y'all follow me like LeBron no matter what you ever say about him He's like y'all jump on my back except for that one year you jump on my back And I will carry you as far as it'll go Anthony Davis. You just hope he plays well all those games That's to me. That's a big difference. Mm-hmm Mr. Drake killer. No, he been saying he's just saying what we've been saying this whole
Starting point is 01:37:06 time. Like, here go the keys, motherfucker. He's like, ah, you got to move faster than that. He's like, the keys? But I was just over here riding. Got to move faster than that. You're moving too slow. Give me them shits. And LeBron ain't thinking about passing that shit to you and you don't really want it.
Starting point is 01:37:22 Shit, I'm a better driver than you anyway. LeBron got to be frustrated, right? It was like, I didn't think I'd still be doing all this work. Nah, that's Cap. He definitely want, he want the smoke. He just want... He want the rings. He don't, like... He want, he want, he want the credit. He don't want the blame. So, look, I'm gonna
Starting point is 01:37:37 give it to you, AD, because if we don't make it, it's your fault. Nah, that don't work. That don't work at all. Everything is his fault. Never. If he wins a championship, it's somebody else's win. If he loses, it's his fault. He's in that position. But, I mean, at 39, you do not want him. Because the more he plays, the harder he has to play and shorten his career.
Starting point is 01:37:59 So I'm pretty sure he wishes he had guys. Like the last three games, this feels a lot better to him. But you're talking about shortening his career to man's in year 21. He playing with house money right now. I'm just saying. If I'm trying to play with my sons, I need more years. Both of them? I need more years.
Starting point is 01:38:16 Paul, we're sending out to both of them. You see what's going on here? So now we gotta let him play with good players so he don't have to do as much so he can play with his sons. Yeah. I mean, does he not deserve that in year 21? I don't, I mean- You got to let him play with good player so he don't have to do as much so he can play with us. Yeah, I Mean does he not deserve that in your 21? Oh 50 years you can retire and then come back why and then play with your sons Instead of using these excuses about why I need to delegate and pass it off to
Starting point is 01:38:42 25 again, you're gonna do it do it, do it, man. You're acting like he's averaging four. Ah, listen, we talk about LeBron even when they get swept. It's like we forgot Joker and them won. It's like y'all talked about LeBron the whole fucking time. Can I ask you something? They got swept. Can I ask you something?
Starting point is 01:38:58 In all the bashing we do, has LeBron himself as an individual failed? Did he not come to work? What you mean? If the team lose, everybody loses. Did he, as the one player? I don't know what that means. Game one, two, three, did he not come to work on those games? His jersey
Starting point is 01:39:17 says the Lakers. Yeah, I figured. Yeah. So nobody is exempt from the failure of the unit So so when I don't give a fuck how hard you play? The end result was what? Sweet yeah, but they but they lose good people didn't show up. They lost it. They just weren't good enough Yeah, they wasn't good enough
Starting point is 01:39:38 Has he not been good enough in the game? He was all one leg one way to write when Kobe when they lost to the Suns right whose fault was that in the game? He was on one leg for that series too, right? When Kobe, when they lost to the Suns, right, whose fault was that in the last game? The Lakers. Oh, it wasn't the best player didn't show up.
Starting point is 01:39:51 No. It was the Lakers didn't show up. Oh, yeah. That's easy to do that. That was the game where he stopped shooting, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:57 How about the Boston in the last game when they... Who fault was that? Who? What? Excuse me? The Boston when they,
Starting point is 01:40:02 you know, they're fighting the finals and someone didn't show up the last game. I don't know, man. I know you don't remember. I just look at the game. It's easy to blame the team. I look at the game.
Starting point is 01:40:11 But everybody else played good. I look at the game differently. It's a team game. Yeah. Team. It's a team game, but you want to blame the best player when the best player is showing up doing his job. It's a team game, man. You get credit when we win, and everybody fails when we lose.
Starting point is 01:40:28 Simple. Next. I like this. That's next. That's great. You know, got a guy averaging 39 in the series. So you keep giving him the last word. Come on, man.
Starting point is 01:40:38 I just won that. You're supposed to go to the next shit, man. See, y'all over here, because we're talking about LeBron, huh? I'm merely the host. Yeah, okay. I merely the host. I got you. I've been giving you compliments and shit. I'm just saying. Okay, man. See, y'all over here, it's because we talking about LeBron, huh? I'm merely the host. Yeah, okay. I merely the host.
Starting point is 01:40:46 I got you, though. I got you. I've been giving you compliments and shit. I'm just saying. Okay, okay. You also told me you didn't have greatness clothes for me in my life. So, when A.I. lost to the Lakers, so when A.I.
Starting point is 01:40:54 lost to the Lakers, when A.I. lost to the Lakers, whose fault was that? Oh, my God. I'm pretty sure you're not going to say AI. Did you say when who lost to the Lakers? AI and them. No, you didn't say them. AI.
Starting point is 01:41:11 Okay. So who's fault? Does the jersey say AI? It should have. Did it? It should have. Did it? It should have been AI in the back of that motherfucking sixes.
Starting point is 01:41:21 Did it? Whatever you want to do. I know one person who showed up. So why did they get rid of that AI? I know one person that showed up. Why did he go to another team? Because when he went to the Denver Nuggets, it said the Denver Nuggets.
Starting point is 01:41:35 It didn't say AI. Did anybody say AI did not perform? Or did they say, damn, AI needs some help? Because that means the rest of the people that was with him that had that same jersey on, they did not show up to play against them Lakers. But they got there as a team. No, they got there as an individual. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:41:57 You might as well go look at the stat man, stat man. See, that was tricky, though, because they built the only kind of team around out now that you can win with, right? But everybody going to do all the other stuff. All you got to do is come out here and gun it. So you got all the way to the point where you faced a team that was just better than y'all. So up until that point, y'all was the 76ers, and then it's like, oh, it's just Allen Iverson now. That doesn't fit the narrative.
Starting point is 01:42:22 That doesn't fit the narrative. It was always Allen Iverson. It doesn't fit the narrative. It was always Alton Iverson. It was always Alton Iverson. It was like Michael Jackson and the Jackson 5. All them guys play good. Those were pips, right? Definitely were pips. Those were pips.
Starting point is 01:42:36 Absolutely. You can't name that. What was they called? Gladys. No, they was called the Jackson 5. What did they say? Yeah. Okay. Can you name the other four right now go?
Starting point is 01:42:46 Jermaine Tito Marlin is busy ready tomorrow We don't know the other four stars that's Jackie and who left the towels in the pool Just wash Hot about the thousand food what? Towels just wash them You was gonna have to wash it record the way it go Do not leave no child who left the child Beat your ass. I'll beat your ass. How did the fucking towel get in this way reporter begin with that's question It was it was we know the father more than others You know? Joe's an American icon.
Starting point is 01:43:48 I'm just saying, bro. Jackie Jackson was the winner, though, because Michael Jackson is 11 years old when this is going. He a little too young to fully experience the spoils of stardom. Jackie, however, is like 17, 18. He's killing it. I don't know anything he ever did. I don't think he ever had a solo part. I don't know. all he did was just clean up off his little brother. Yeah, Mike's brother
Starting point is 01:44:15 Yeah, that's my brother yeah, you're below you had to be humble on that you're right you totally like look We finally got us a star. There's the train we ride there everybody else falls off. You are the three. We've been waiting. We've been hoping it would come together for you guys. It never quite did. And Janet out here cooking. She on good time. Victoria falling in love. But baby, look, I'm the one in the back with the baby.
Starting point is 01:44:34 Baby's the only one I can tell you. That's like the New York Knicks. Yeah. Y'all just waiting for Michael Jackson. Yep. I got the other four. We're going to talk about the Knicks in a second your favorite senior thinking we're talking about talking about Chuck Mother was great dog. Yeah, I'm just thinking about the way we used to skip like the Scout report when we doing Scout
Starting point is 01:45:02 The foot like the first four years the jurors like I'm just thinking about you know, we should catch that bitch and load up that's gonna Right. Listen that's got important didn't have nobody else on it They ran everything formed all and it was Like every defense that we did was geared towards to slow him down Don't rent a couple please for yeah, it's not gonna ran a couple plays for the motherfucker, but dude, that shit was impossible. It was 10 points, all 10 was Iverson. There was no Aaron McKee, there was no, we didn't, I'm just real. None for Thomas Cook?
Starting point is 01:45:40 No one, the only thing they used to do, Aaron McKee back down or some shit like that, but other than that. Just decoy. Yeah. Just a shit like that. But other than that. Just decoy. Yeah. Just a little decoy play. Other than that. So Allen Iverson averaged 80 points a game? Where does other points come from?
Starting point is 01:45:51 Bruh. But it would only be like 25 other points. That was back when they were having the 65-point game. Iverson scored 30. The rest of the team scored 28. You need to cut it out. Y'all need to stop it. No, you need to tell him.
Starting point is 01:46:01 Y'all need to stop it. You didn't have to chase him around. I did have to chase him around. I played against him too. Not that one. No, not that one. Not that one. No, you didn't. me I'll need this. I didn't have to chase him around. I did have to chase No, I played against him to not that. No, not that. I'm not that. No, you didn't not that trust Not that MVP. I'm not him. You didn't you didn't Not him You didn't chase that one around No
Starting point is 01:46:22 I've already smoked this conversation already. You're just trying to give these niggas a second, third life. You're trying to give them a second and third life. It's unbelievable. I'm just sitting here like, you're still young. He was never in a scouting report looking at a scouting report, and we're playing the 76ers, and it's only Iverson. Hey, Coach, what about, I got this.
Starting point is 01:46:43 Just play him straight up. Man, listen, trust me. You ain't have Just play him straight up. Man, listen, bro. Trust me. You ain't have to chase him around. He'll get your ass fits. Let's talk about- And fits. I ain't shit.
Starting point is 01:46:53 You give me fits. Okay, let's go. Next. If I get your ass fits, AI, good luck. Next. Yeah, we'll get me fits. Oh, woo woo woo. Okay, we good.
Starting point is 01:47:02 Are we good? So let's talk about bronze. We good. He forgot he had to get in the game Are we good? We I seen you I seen you I seen you you got in them game Is it becoming is it becoming obvious? He got in the games against me. They're becoming obvious. So lucky lucky lucky lucky, but let's keep this thing moving So ESPN dropped the crazy stat during the game LeBron has played against 35% of the NBA in his career Which is roughly 1,800 players
Starting point is 01:47:25 amongst that 30 yeah damn I'm looking at your face are you trying to fuck it uh I'm looking like that's wild you're trying to figure out the calculation like no that's a wild percent like 33 35% in his career which is roughly 1,800 players amongst that 35% is eight current NBA head coaches including Darvin him that's an old Negro so this sort of spot have we broken 6,000 players yet known no right it's still about what 5800 he's played against so him and Vince Carter though played against around Vince probably play a considerable amount you say he played against eight current coaches and current head coaches He's father sons
Starting point is 01:48:09 We saw Jabari Smith. He played against my dad. I mean, that's an impressive 35% that's let you know how hard it is to get in if he's if he's played against. Yeah She'd up damn somebody needed to stat when Kareem was on his last year. What was the percentage of how many players he played against? I think Les Taylor was on like 22, 23. I know. So he would have had to play against about 65. I mean for a lot of it it wasn't even on 23 teams. Oh but but at to that point when he retired how many percent? Yeah. It would have been like he played against damn near 70 percent of the league. Yeah but now since but now since you got so many teams,
Starting point is 01:48:45 LeBron can stack that number up so high. It's 20 years at the time the league had the most players, so you add more players. And so nobody could have been close to that 35. Yeah, for sure. Hell no. That's nuts. I mean, at the time that they retired, though,
Starting point is 01:48:59 potentially, right, Kareem? Potentially, yeah. Kareem, I'm saying. Yeah. Because at that time, it probably would have been like 7,800 players. He might have been one degree of separation from every player in the league in NBA history. Potentially, yeah. Kareem, I'm saying. Yeah. Because at that time it had probably been with a black- That's fair. He might have been one degree of separation from every player in the league in NBA history.
Starting point is 01:49:08 Did Michael Jordan actually play in the league? 15. 15. And did he ever get hurt in a year? At 85. And then he took a- He had a broken foot in 85. Then he took two years off? Took two years off.
Starting point is 01:49:20 Had the- Year and a half. He had the knee surgery at the end. He still wouldn't have even played 18 years, and he still had 30-something thousand. So if he'd have played 21 prime years, we'd have obliterated that record, right? Yeah, you know, that's how it would have been. Oh man, if LeBron played. Oh, I didn't know you was gonna do all that.
Starting point is 01:49:43 I was just saying, I was just saying some shit. I didn't know you was going to do all that. I was just saying. I was just saying some shit. I didn't know he was triggering him to do this. LeBron, he's going to defend LeBron. I'm just saying what Mike would have done. I didn't know that was going to trigger you to that. I was just saying, like, Mike only played 15. If he would have played 21, like, yeah, we wouldn't even be having a conversation
Starting point is 01:50:01 about goats and shit like that. And if LeBron would have played 82 games every year, like... 82 games? We can do ifs all we want. Ifs. If Jordan played against a good shooting guard, ooh, you know, he would have probably had some defense. That means that Jordan ain't really as good as you think, huh?
Starting point is 01:50:21 I mean, he's my number one, so I don't see how we... What was the point of you just saying that? What's the point of you saying that? You said LeBron for a while. I just want to make sure... I switch when I want to. Okay. You can do that.
Starting point is 01:50:32 You can do that when you're the host of Gills Arena. I wish we had a remix. Repeat that. You can do that when you're the host of... I switch when I want to. Remember, I remember I had LeBron, and then... Hey, Tim! It's your man.
Starting point is 01:50:42 Get your man, bro. I switch when I want to. I had LeBron. This is gonna stick it right here. I said he ran the coke out of the 80s. I put LeBron back in. Oh, yeah, fair. Yeah, and then I took him out. I forgot Jordan did run.
Starting point is 01:50:54 And then I took him out when I realized he drafted, 2001 draft, and that's one of his players. You know what I mean? Yeah, I do, you know. Everybody know that by now. Dude, you just wake up one day like oh wait One thing about the old one draft though is if you think he made the wrong pick
Starting point is 01:51:16 He did actually have to play with him Like rarely has anybody ever had to answer for the old draft pick quite like now I gotta go play with, and then he hated him. You know what's the funny part? To be honest, Michael Jordan didn't even want the pick. He wanted to trade it. Abe Poland said, no, no, no, he's not trading his pick. So it wasn't MJ's pick, though.
Starting point is 01:51:38 Okay, come to address it. But let's talk about LeBron. You're 21, so in regards to LeBron's future with the Lakers, Brian Windhorst had this to say, I don't know what's going to happen with LeBron in 2025. I feel like LeBron is going to play next year, but I don't know if it's going to be for the Lakers. LeBron has a player option after this season. Will LeBron finish his career with the Lakers?
Starting point is 01:51:58 I'm just reporting the news and getting your opinions on it. Have you left L recently have you seen the rest of the states Nobody's going to those other states no movement once you once you get the Sun we You're not going out. You're not going over there. No more man. He ain't going back that way no more His whole Empire's here his kids is here. They schools is he's not going over there no more man. He ain't going back that way no more his whole empires here His kids is here. They schools is he's not going look here There was this one time that he played and he was living in the warm weather and he came and said kids were going back To Cleveland you can't do no shit like that
Starting point is 01:52:37 You can't do that twice like you matter how bad you had to be if you was one of the kids who didn't even remember Cleveland Next thing you know we leaving the beach and we up here remember Cleveland. Next thing you know, we leaving the beach. We up here in this cold, drearyness. He can't do that to him again. Like, I don't think, you don't get to play that card twice. I want you, he'd be a fool to leave the Lakers. He needs to figure out how to ingrate.
Starting point is 01:52:54 I mean, I think he's doing it to a degree, but you need to make yourself Laker legend, right? Think about me when you, like, Will Chamberlain did with the Lakers. Came to play with the Lakers, never left. That's the game that he, if I'm him, that's the game that I play. I still think it's crazy that we talk about the idea that he could play two, three years from now. Like that. Like that's what we're looking at 2025 like. Well, like on one level, it's like it's amazing that he can play.
Starting point is 01:53:17 On another level, like there's got to be something else you feel like doing. Man, this man right here need to be on. Hey, you need to be the second tier. When I'm on, you need to be on. No, I'm just like this guy. We go high five. Yeah. Back to back.
Starting point is 01:53:31 I'm like, I just can't believe you still want to come out here and keep on doing this. Right? Because, like, you said stay to play with the second son. That boy's 16. He institutionalized. That's all he does. Hey, listen. Reality's kicked in. He looked at the rest of us
Starting point is 01:53:47 and said, I got time to be that miserable. I'm just going to keep on playing. He is trying to build that resume. It's tough. He really thinks, I really do believe that he thinks at the end that if he puts enough stuff on that resume, he's going to be able to put it down and be like,
Starting point is 01:54:03 Mike can't do this. And we're going to be like, I mean, we're not discussing this anymore. Like this has been, this has been determined. Yes. But can anybody do it? But then can anybody get to what? 23, 24? This is incredible. This is incredible.
Starting point is 01:54:17 No, this is I'm here. We'll never see it in our lifetime. Right? I don't know. Modern technology. This thing right here. These are my new favorite. I like this nigga. I like this nigga. Team up to it. I like this nigga right here. These mom to my new favorite. I like this nigga. I like this team up to it
Starting point is 01:54:26 I like this nigga right here. Am I trying to play any girls arena shootout this Saturday? 25 minutes Game looks like long range game That'll be that'll see that in no good way if I had to tell any player a play into its into you Just can't no more. Because when it's done, it's done. And so he's going to do it. And so how long, if you,
Starting point is 01:54:48 somebody will always be willing to give him a check, right? Because you'll always be able to sell some tickets. How long could he really stress this out if he wanted to? Modern day Sartre Page.
Starting point is 01:54:58 How old are you by phone? Because if you judge, by phone. Because if you just go on the numbers alone, just the numbers. Just the numbers. Just stay in, averaging 20? 25, he's at 25, 8, no, this shit is...
Starting point is 01:55:11 It's not real. When does he get to 19? No, yeah. When? What year? We just watched them niggas play a lick of defense. We just watched these niggas. I do this shit defense where we just we just watch these he can walk do this Yeah, like saying and then they all went to his skill camp. They all wanted autograph. They are like it's like it's
Starting point is 01:55:31 What I'm see Z It's easy. Do you retire when you average in 19 when do you wait till you get to four? We know what's gonna happen How long does it have to be before you have his for is gonna be a kid he's gonna go till there's a catastrophic Injury, right? It's just gonna be until physically he can't do this no more. And that's what I personally don't want to see Yeah, I think I don't I don't see him going. I think he need to have his tour though Plan it and have it. Oh, he is go ahead to tour But he needs to plan it like he only to go out how you saying? Yeah, it don't need to happen
Starting point is 01:56:06 Like I think I think if his son's in B if he enters a draft It could be his last run, okay Well, let me ask y'all this cuz you know this better than me and y'all out here and you've seen more Is that boy an NBA player Ronnie? Yeah Is he the because the second one seems like he could be an NBA player. The first one I'm not so sure. So Bronny has, like he's a Drew Holiday, right? Just more athletic. If he turns on his Tiger, for sure, Right. He just plays the right way. So you don't what happens is we don't know what he really is It's like he he has the Bugatti engine
Starting point is 01:56:53 But he wants to drive the speed limit. He don't want ticket. I don't want a ticket right? That's that's how he he uses his body right if you say a no you you got a score 40 tonight There's there's nobody in his position that can stop him Well, I'm talking about a kid with a 42 43 44 put him at the park I put him at the point guard like Westbrook say go downhill Well, how long will it be before he's an NBA player because it doesn't seem like he would be ready to play in the NBA next season At least from where I'm sitting
Starting point is 01:57:25 Like I trained him I trained him. I trained him against Sky Clark. And when I got on him and said, yo, you just going to let him kill you like this? Because Sky a killer. Sky's a killer, right? Sky's a killer. And I said, you just going to let him do this.
Starting point is 01:57:38 You're not going to fight back. I don't know what word triggered him, but it's like his eyes rolled back and a whole nother human came out. And what I seen him, this eighth grade, what I seen him doing, I was like, yeah. But that's the person I seen, so I know what's sitting inside of him.
Starting point is 01:57:57 It's just having it come out. That's the only problem. He's been surrounded with so much talent that he never, you don't know what's inside of him. So with the expectation of him being LeBron's son, should he be right now the top shooting guard in college? Should he be the most dominant player in college right now based on the expectations?
Starting point is 01:58:22 No. If he went into the draft and he has to play 1v1s against the other recruit, no one's gonna dominate him. You say play against play what? When you go into the NBA draft and you have to play one and one, you know, one and one? When he goes into the NBA draft playing against just one person,
Starting point is 01:58:40 there's no team involved, there's nobody in the country that's gonna take advantage of him. Okay. Yeah. He played the right way. I mean, I think we saw that in the McDonald's game. Obviously, There's nobody in the country that's going to take advantage of him. Okay. Yeah. He played the right way. I mean, I think we saw that in the McDonald's game. Obviously, a lot of people were criticizing that decision. He didn't look like he didn't belong in that game.
Starting point is 01:58:52 No, he's talented. I just... I'll tell you honestly. About 6'2", 6'3". If he was 6'5", it's a whole different conversation with him. It's hard to make the NBA at 6'2". That'3"? If he was 6'5", it's a whole different conversation with him. It's hard to make the NBA at 6'2". That's all I'm, like, gifted as he is, everything that he has, bloodline, athleticism, all that,
Starting point is 01:59:14 I'm just looking at the things that they hold against people now, right? And his height might be that. Then with everything else that he does, well, they don't focus on the things that you do well anymore. They pick holes in your shit like, oh, he's not athletic, he don't do this, he's not tall enough, da-da-da. So now you get back to, well, fuck, he can play, though.
Starting point is 01:59:38 He can actually play. I liked him as a freshman. When I saw him from freshman on, he's gotten better, he's gotten stronger, more athletic. All those things exist, but it's that height thing for certain people. What is his wingspan? Just all those things that people try to hold against you when they're looking to evaluate you for the next level.
Starting point is 01:59:59 And I just think they might try to hold that against him. He's a point. But does he at least score? That's what I look at. That's the thing that everybody doesn't realize. That's the elite scoring. Because you've got to be. He can score.
Starting point is 02:00:17 He'd just rather just play team basketball. Yeah. Like what we knocked LeBron for when we need him to be a score, right? He has that. Like he is like he values getting everybody making the right play. He don't want he's like he's more like a Zoball. Got you. He's going to make the right play every time.
Starting point is 02:00:37 Sometimes the right play is you just trying to be selfish. Right. That's the right. And then when it comes down to it, a dude like that is, are you good enough to where all the intangibles start to matter, right? Like, Kendall Marshall is an example of that, right?
Starting point is 02:00:51 Kendall Marshall had all those intangibles that were just too slow, right? It didn't matter. What he could do in college that made him, I've never seen a team turn around with one person
Starting point is 02:00:59 going in like Kendall Marshall got on that team in North Carolina. But in the NBA, he just wasn't good enough for any of that stuff to matter. And so that's why I look at Bronny. It's like, if you're good enough to get the other stuff going, then cool.
Starting point is 02:01:09 We just want to see how good he is, you know? So Bronny and USC were playing Arizona on ESPN while the Lakers were playing the Mavs last night on ABC. After the win, LeBron was preoccupied in the Lakers' locker room watching Bronny. The rhythm for that song is good. Pull it. Sorry.
Starting point is 02:01:27 You're good. Pull it. Shoot it. Oh, good pass. That's the fucking ball, man. How was he shooting? How was Barney looking? He said good pass and then got mad.
Starting point is 02:01:35 Did he shoot it? Look at Christian Wood in the background though like, you're good for it. 10's going to stop doubling him soon. As long as we make shots out there for him, shoot it. Our job to make sure we're in the right position, shoot it. Well, Christian Wood would really want to be watching right now.
Starting point is 02:01:50 We be talking to them over like they can actually hear us. God damn it. Christian Wood said, put on, Tad, nigga, stop all this bullshit. He was like, he's trying to watch something else. He was talking over there like, like, like, Brownie and him could hear him, too. Like... So, Brownie made it...
Starting point is 02:02:04 What were you gonna go save Mr. Arena think about what he was saying right open shot do what pull it what do you think he's thinking when he's in the game and he makes these passes to to these guys right shoot it shoot it and you can see how frustrated he just said good pass. But he's still mad that he didn't shoot it because that frees up. So you can just imagine how frustrated he is with when you do not take that shot. He also said at one point that Bronny could play on the Lakers right now very audibly so his teammates could hear it. Where's that live?
Starting point is 02:02:45 What's the reason why he say that? Motivation? No, it was worse than that. Because Bronny is a well-rounded player that doesn't have to be the star. He knows how to play the game. He's a team player. It was worse than that when he did it.
Starting point is 02:03:02 Because if he had said he could play for the Lakers, that would have been one thing. He said he could play for half the teams in the league while the Lakers were, like, number 11 in the West. So, like, passive-aggressively, he was telling his teammates, Bronny better than y'all. I'd have been like, bring his little ass out here. For sure. Let's see.
Starting point is 02:03:18 That part. That part. So, Bronny made the second start of the season, finished with 11 points, five rebounds, six assists. But the Trojans got smacked by the number 12 ranked Wildcats. No bear down today? Oh, wow. Y'all niggas is broke now.
Starting point is 02:03:32 They got smacked by like 20. Caleb killed him. You know, he solid. He did his thing. That's the matchup that I'm looking at. That's the shit I'm looking at. Like, all right, Ronnie, you got Caleb Love coming in here. You got to make a statement.
Starting point is 02:03:43 Yeah, exactly. But you got two NBA dads here on this couch. Gil, I've been to a few of your son's high school games to see how you watch those games. Very, very entertaining. Almost as good as Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. How stressful is it watching your kids hoop and how do you help them deal with the pressure
Starting point is 02:03:59 of trying to follow in your footsteps? To be honest, man, if you've seen me at the games, most of the time I'm playing app games. You are locked in. Sometimes I just be playing app games and I watch like, you know, mids. Are you aggressive, right? You know, if you're not playing like last night,
Starting point is 02:04:20 I, you know, I was like, yeah, good game. You know, this is a game that you, y'all got, you got your teammates yeah, good game. This is a game that you got your teammates involved. But there's also a game where you're supposed to score 70. You're supposed to score 70. That team really think they stopped you. They're going to school like, yeah, he only had 14 against us because you was out there looking bored. I'm not watching this shit.
Starting point is 02:04:44 But I'm not going to be sitting there yelling I just... Mental notes? Yeah, it's trash. Trash performance. I think I know at least one of those games that you're talking about. Very, very tough on officiating too, trying to hold them to a higher standard even though they're high school refs and I appreciate that. I hate high school refs. They're Mandy X-less. Like high school refs I appreciate that I hate high school rest demanding excellence like high school rest They like they like bitter they like it seems like some of them are like bitter exes Cuz they see y'all right?
Starting point is 02:05:12 Yes, see y'all if you're watching the kid do something that you couldn't do and then now you don't like them personally like You know, I mean just double dribble traveling I love nothing enough to be no high school ref at high school ref prices. I can't imagine getting off my regular job and coming to do that. $60. Yeah. It's like some shit like that. It's like $50, $60.
Starting point is 02:05:35 I know AAU is like $10 a game. Yeah, and I used to let them... $20 a game. I used to let the ass have it. I don't think it's worth me up to $60 worth of abuse man Yeah, I was at a game with good ref was like watch it he's like sure pay $10 I'm getting my money's worth Oh, yeah Like what is that? That's I made the call. He's telling watch it. Shut up. I got $10. It only cost me $10
Starting point is 02:06:01 I can get kicked out and then come back in when you're not looking. So $10 Okay, how stressful is if you watch your kids hoop and then just how do you help them deal with the Stressful not if they doing they supposed to then No stress. Do you ever have those brown type moments where you just think? Yeah, I'm involved. I sit on the front row Level this man's level 10. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. Not a nine.
Starting point is 02:06:28 No, no, no. I never was level 10. Eight. No, I sat next to a motherfucker the other day named Matt Barnes. Oh, my God. Hey, listen, Jack. Me, Matt, and Scotty was a few seats down. Listen, man. They was playing Crest was a few seats down. Listen, man.
Starting point is 02:06:46 They was playing Crest. We had Sierra the other day, dog. I was thoroughly entertained. You see somebody worse than you? Way worse than me. I ain't never, listen, man, yo. The shit he was getting, and he was, me, I just sit down and say what I got to say. Oh, Matt, he stood up like 60 times.
Starting point is 02:07:03 And barking on the court, all kind of shit. I'm just like. Damn. You know. No, but it gets to a point. No, no, no. Yeah, I didn't got. I felt like when KJ and him was in school, like the ref was cheating him.
Starting point is 02:07:17 So I told me, lucky, my wife pregnant right now. I got to get her home. It's more, don't cheat. I guess it's don't cheat the kids. Yeah. That's the thing. Don't cheat us. Just play the,
Starting point is 02:07:29 like call the calls. Don't, don't cheat. Damn. I be thinking the same shit. Don't cheat me. Beat me, man.
Starting point is 02:07:38 Don't. I be saying the same shit. Don't you agree somebody cheat you and feel some type of way about it? That's it.
Starting point is 02:07:44 I'm not trying to get an advantage over you. A competitive advantage, perhaps. You know what I'm saying? Doing shit is like, that's not fair. Is this cheating? That's not fair. You call and have the dude's number who owns the gym call him to try to get in the gym to get your workout in. And he just don't call you back.
Starting point is 02:08:04 And then you find out one of the other contestants in there working out who was cheating first or trying to cheat see that it just didn't work see that's cap see see this is what you call a liar this is what you call a liar see because the guy over there his name is tim and before we started this shootout thing before this shootout thing started there was this thing I had created called Money Shot. Right. And I went to the gym and said, let's do this Money Shot thing months before. Before he even knew anything about the shit.
Starting point is 02:08:34 So me and this guy over there, white guy over there. Yeah. He has the emails of what Money Shot was and all of that. So then I didn't get the emails back. I didn't get the call back. I didn't get the call back. I didn't get none of that back. Right? So now here we are,
Starting point is 02:08:50 we're a guy talking about, oh, I got the keys to the gym that we're competing at for the contest and I've been shooting here for three months. I said, well, same gym we supposed to compete at, he's shooting at, nobody else knows. But he secretly exposed himself by showing that he's shooting at the gym. I said, well, goddamn, that looks like insider trading to me.
Starting point is 02:09:10 Yeah, can I, I just want to point something out. So, Bomani, we're having the first annual Gills Arena shootout. It's at the district. No, I'm caught up now. I'm caught up now. Yeah, competitive advantage. I feel like a marriage counselor right now. Everybody's trying to sway me.
Starting point is 02:09:24 The arbitrator. I was just thinking on the cheap Familiar just so we understand just just so we understand what we're dealing with here Can I get some more water, please? Can I ask you one question? And I'm pretty sure the answer is yes No, are you the only contestant? With the ball that we're shooting with? I'm shooting with Adidas balls.
Starting point is 02:09:55 How did you get that ball, sir, since everyone's in collusion? I stole it. Where did you steal it from? From the contest, where the tryouts. Oh, so you stole the ball so you can have an advantage with the ball that were you. Lexi's using WNBA NBA balls I'm using it. So you're the only contestant with the actual ball that we're using and we the goddamn cheetahs Mm-hmm. See you mad that I don't shoot you in this ball actually just sits in my trunk That ball doesn't even, it hasn't been touched. The ball doesn't, that ball sits in my trunk.
Starting point is 02:10:27 Well, first of all, we don't know how many balls he do have. But we just, it just, pause, but we just found out that the man, the man took a ball. Take that, scrub that from the, you can just scrub that. The man took a ball. I don't want to be associated with any of that shit. So he can be familiar with the ball, but we all. I did, and I thought this was a real NBA ball. It turns out that man's hook up. I don't want to be associated with it You can be familiar with the ball, but we might be and I thought this was a real NBA ball We got we got I don't know what that is I was like I'm not shooting with this it doesn't feel right Uh-huh. Just feel like he said it up. Yeah
Starting point is 02:11:04 I'm over there working with Adidas balls. He got the real one. Still not going to help him. Are you going to be in town this weekend? Nah, I'm out. I think you should. Stand the trip. It's going to be very, very entertaining.
Starting point is 02:11:17 It's on Saturday. Saturday at the District of Chatsworth, California, starting at 1 p.m. on the Gil's Arena YouTube channel. Hey, man, can we make sure that balls not in that rack You got oh, I'm gonna write I'm gonna I'm gonna know nothing. I just use I just bring this on just to sit with a ball man We believe you now
Starting point is 02:11:38 Mm-hmm. And with that in mind, let us move on to mostly fans presented by underdog fantasy In the meantime download the underdog fantasy I've used promo code deal that will match your first deposit up to one is it obvious? Can I get a step man step man yeah, that's me I still feel like it's extremely disrespectful that you use the chunky Gilbert photo. Yeah, man. You know. The Chunky Gilbert. Cut. It's the nigga I'm beating. 250 Gil. Oh, that's the,
Starting point is 02:12:08 that's the, that's Coach, was it Big 3? Coach Gil. Mm-hmm. So, first question is from underdog user Quan Hammonds. McCants,
Starting point is 02:12:16 would you rather be finals MVP or season MVP? I'm not answering this. You gotta address me the right way. That's not my name. That's what the question said.
Starting point is 02:12:23 Mr. Dreamkiller, sir Would you rather be finals would you rather be finals MVP or regular season MVP? finals MVP, okay Championship matters Championships do matter Oh money finals MVP or regular season MVP. You can only have one of them. I Feel like regular season MVP? You can only have one of them. I feel like regular season MVP
Starting point is 02:12:47 ultimately gonna make you more money. We had this conversation yesterday on the show. Go ahead and ask him, Dan. Outnumbered. They all said regular season MVP, as you said as well. Regular season. Can you mark it? Regular season MVP over finals MVP?
Starting point is 02:13:03 Yes. For the sake of the money? No, just period. Fuck. It means more. It's a more valuable player. More body of work. It's a bigger body of work.
Starting point is 02:13:13 82 games, not four or seven. Yes, a bigger body of work. And then you don't go to the finals and you don't win the championship. No, you still go to the finals. You don't hold up the reward for the actual MVP of the championship that you win How does this not matter? You go both ways, right? You'd be Larry Bird. You could be said you might as well, right? Or you know, I thought that was pretty impressive to All right, Let's be fucking honest. What's the difference?
Starting point is 02:13:46 If I'm Andre Goddard, I'm a champion and an MVP. I'm both. I'm both. I'm both. I'm both. You're one, I'm both. You're one, I'm both. You're one, I'm both.
Starting point is 02:14:03 I got two. I got a trophy in the ring And none of them. Hey what excuse me? Is it what we teach in the youth? I feel like this is what we're teaching the youth that we don't want to win championships. You can get both I thought we wanted to win championships. I thought the game was about winning. It's so it's not it's about awards So you want everybody agree? We should go in. No, I don't. I just want the logic. Go ahead and say it. What's the logic?
Starting point is 02:14:27 Everybody agree with me, please. What's the logic? If we're not winning, what are we doing? We just gave you the logic. What are we doing? It's a bigger body of work. It doesn't make sense. That logic doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 02:14:35 It don't make sense to you. It doesn't. I don't think it makes sense to people who like to win. Yeah, sounds good. People who like to win is like, that don't make sense. I want to win. What have you won? I won a championship.
Starting point is 02:14:43 Two of them. We won one together where I got the MVP at the end So you can discredit it all you want to that's not the same thing I'm a champion best to you and the MVP That's not the same thing. I'm a champion the best to an MVP. That's not the same thing don't matter That's coming. I'm not coming to that not to me when it come to that when it matters to me shot. I'll call it matters win 10-1 win win win win win All I do is win win win no matter what we have a body here How's it a right time about one of you?
Starting point is 02:15:22 They have a Facility Rashad I was at the right time with Bob Allen. You won the championship, right? He did. They had a shooting competition at the slam ball facility. Rashad won 10 to 1 in front of the slam ball player. He played well, too. You was a college champion? Right, you was a college champion, right? Rashad was a college champion in North Carolina. Yeah, absolutely. Were you, because I think it came out your mouth,
Starting point is 02:15:44 were you actually happy after you won the championship? Of course I was. I champion in North Carolina. Yeah, absolutely. Were you, because I think it came out your mouth, were you actually happy after you won the championship? Of course I was. I led my team. You knew. Did you team what? Hey, let me ask you a question there about the word led. Yeah, I just. Excuse me?
Starting point is 02:15:55 I was around. I feel like Sean May won Final Four MVP, right? Yeah. What is that? Huh? So you want to go into that? No, I'm actually down. You want me to go down? You want to go into that? No, I'm actually down.
Starting point is 02:16:06 You want me to go down? I'm curious. Because I had 15 points at half, and then my coach decided that it wasn't going to be my show because it was Big Man's birthday. Okay, cool, but it was 15 points. It had to have been Big Man's show for the last 15 games. But it wasn't. But it wasn't because I got hurt.
Starting point is 02:16:21 I had an intestinal disorder. I remember this. So I was already decreasing my scoring and passing more because the niggas on my team was haters. I had to decrease to win. So when I used to pump fake and pass, he's like, oh, Rashad, why you not shooting? Yeah, because I got to feed these niggas. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:16:39 I don't know the stories. I don't know the stories, though. I just want to ask. Y'all read what y'all like to read. Were you happy when you won the championship? I don't know the story though. I just want to ask y'all read what y'all like to read were you high When you I never did the chance you said he was not happy you was just ready to get to the NBA He was not happy and you wanted to hurt if they have to do anything Because it is a championship that you hold to your heart
Starting point is 02:17:05 But when you won it you didn't give two shits about it because you won who said that you said no I didn't I didn't you did you can't quote me on that you did you can't quote me on that you make it to the NBA you making shit up now right so we're gonna prove your point no no this guy who was in the why you know it's got to be about me no because you're talking about championship always about me no you said you're saying how you was, because your point was champion and all this and you want to be it. But when you did it at that moment in time, you were not, you didn't have the same energy when you was in real time. You have that energy today. But when you were there in real time winning a championship, you was not actually happy about it.
Starting point is 02:17:47 Thank you for telling me how I feel. Okay That's so generous of Gilbert to tell me how I felt about winning the championship The last my parents there last Daisy and Beyonce there and every little Wayne there and yeah, you know, man I wasn't happy at all Cheering after the game and going to the strip club with Lil Wayne and them. Sitting there mad at the game? Yeah. Like how? I'm just saying.
Starting point is 02:18:08 I'm a champion. I mean, you would. And we ain't won since 1993. Oh, we hadn't won since 1993, and I led the team. I actually picked the roster. I actually helped recruit all of these niggas that was on the team. When you say led the team. Huh?
Starting point is 02:18:23 What? Huh? So who won final four MVP then? Huh? The best was on the team. When you say let the team... Huh? Huh? So who won final four MVP then? Huh? The best player on the team. Huh? I'm curious. I'm curious.
Starting point is 02:18:33 I didn't win a lot of MVPs. I said you played well. I was supposed to win McDonald's All-American Game MVP, the Jordan Brand Classic MVP. I'm talking about the college championship. Player of the Year, the ACC. There's a lot of things
Starting point is 02:18:44 that didn't happen to me because I was one of the more polarizing, what do you call it? They call it enigmatic. Yeah. Mercurial. Mercurical? That's what you call it?
Starting point is 02:18:54 Yeah, this motherfucker was just getting on our nerves. We don't like this uppity-ass Django nigga. Yeah, but look, you know what I did? I made sure they remember me. I just asked you, was you happy? Very happy. That's all I care about. I'm a champion.
Starting point is 02:19:08 I'm a champion. But was you happy? You can't not be happy being a champion. You got to try first. So you're saying... When you try it, you will understand it. No, if I win a championship, I'm going to be happy because it don't matter. But were you... Yes. yes, that's my answer happy
Starting point is 02:19:28 Yes, I was very very happy and we'll find out who'll be happy at the first annual girls arena shootout Well play Saturday at the district in Chatham, California The dream killer Rashad McCann's Gilbert arenas Lexi Brown Brandi Jennings orifiers, celebrity influencers, all vying for $10,000, or $100,000, $100,000, Fantasy's money. And this is all them just trying to psych each other out in anticipation of the showdown. And like we previously said... Is it really just psyching each other out?
Starting point is 02:19:54 No, this is normal. I mean, I didn't say it wasn't normal. I said it wasn't... If the camera stopped rolling, everybody, it'll be cool. Well, I don't know, man. Y'all might have to square up in Gill's crib. No, let's do it. We can go in the backyard right now. It'll be cool. Well, I don't know, man. Y'all might have to square up. And Gil's cream. Now, let's do it. We can go in the backyard right now.
Starting point is 02:20:08 We take 20 shots. Adidas balls? No, he can use this. Okay. The hard-ass Adidas ball versus the much more comfortable Wilson. Much Wilson that we're going to be playing. So we have another question. This one is from Underdog User UDCTS1997.
Starting point is 02:20:22 It's a video question. What up, man? My question is, is the shootout gonna be shown live this weekend? No, we already got that one. I was about to say, not this. Hey, where did he buy that shirt? Is that officially licensed? We get a lot of Mostly Fans questions with shirts.
Starting point is 02:20:40 We're like, where did you purchase it? We had to do with a Chicago 23 shirt recently. Swap. Trying to figure it out Guilty comb well, I don't know who gives kind of got it for the same place I get my sitting in the air the air the Kansas and shit. We got that other video question What's a big fan of the show? simple question your life's on money if The Hawks didn't make that trade in 2018
Starting point is 02:21:03 Does Luka Doncic have a championship by now with the Atlanta Hawks so my mind you're a resident Atlanta expert if the Hawks didn't trade not if he was gonna play for the Hawks but Michael Jordan on the Hawks they were going on championship but look I don't Kareem Abdul-Jabbar I don't know who he's got to put on the house and he was gonna win a championship no they wouldn't have no I mean thebar, I don't know who he's got to put on the Hawks and he was going to win a championship. Nah, they wouldn't have no... I mean, the Mavericks don't have a championship with Luka, so I don't understand. It's not like we're talking about
Starting point is 02:21:30 if you had... If Jokic goes to the Hawks, maybe somebody who's actually won a championship. Nah, it would have been fun though if Luka would have gone to play in Atlanta. He'd be talking like Zubac and Nurkic. He's close. He's close now. Did you see the podcast that Zubac did the other day. He's close. He's close now. Did you see the podcast
Starting point is 02:21:46 that Zubats did the other day? I love that. That's my favorite thing in the world. When a dude from Europe come over here and learn the world through the NBA,
Starting point is 02:21:54 that's my favorite shit in the world. I forgot who his teammate would be. He said he got him on Tupac, got him on, but that's the shit he was hitting hard with.
Starting point is 02:21:59 When Nurkic said that brother needs help, I was like, one day they told him, you have to say brother. I know what we say. We talk about this one way, you got to say it another way. I was like, one day they told him, you have to say brother. I know what we say. We talk about this one way. You got to say it another way. Hell no, they wouldn't win no championship
Starting point is 02:22:10 with the Hawks. Atlanta, honestly, I think Atlanta is just too much fun for anybody to win, for real. I went to college in Atlanta. I ain't no way I would have won no championship. I barely graduated from college. And I ain't had no money. Yeah. No love for the Atlanta basketball scene. No.
Starting point is 02:22:26 Understand. Nope. Wouldn't have made it different. Host. Would Luka be wearing more do-rags if he played with Dawg? Could he break a blunt with one hand and roll it? Ooh. Fair question.
Starting point is 02:22:40 It depends on if it's a Dutchie or a Philly or a Backwoods. Seeing Luka at Magic City would definitely be an experience though. Oh, I bet he been. Look man, this is a true story. Magic City had an anniversary party, like a 20 year anniversary party or something and they did it up, right? People coming in tuxedos and everything else. We were going through all the pictures, all kinds of famous, this is Atlanta, you ain't
Starting point is 02:23:01 got to hide this. Man, we went and we saw, I will lie to you not, in a full-on tux, Mike Jeminski. Apparently Mike Jeminski loved Magic City to the point where he showed up at the Blacktide Magic City anniversary party. Which is to say, Luka might have been there already. Okay, he already pulled up
Starting point is 02:23:18 and came through. We got one last MostlyFans question. Underdog username, 14flat. He said, was Rashad happy when he won a championship? Kill your asshole. This is a real question that was put in by our producer. He grabbed that all before.
Starting point is 02:23:45 I had to, I had to, I had to get up. Gil playing mind games all week in anticipation of the first annual Gil's Arena shootout presented by Underdog Fantasy. Trying to get a competitive advantage more so than you already have by going to the gym and practicing on the rims that will be used in the competition. Say it again for the people in the back. Stab man, stab man, you listen? No. So we got Bomani. We appreciate you pulling up. We got the right time with Bomani Jones.
Starting point is 02:24:12 Appreciate it. Right time with Bomani Jones on YouTube every three days a week, Monday? Three days a week, Monday. Shout out to Gil who came on Game Theory and came on the right time. I appreciate that. No problem. Kenny Martin, the one dude from Dallas that I don't have jokes about because that would terrify me otherwise.
Starting point is 02:24:29 Oh, no. You should. You were the first people I covered because I was in school at Carolina during 05. So that was like the first team that I've been around that actually won something. So it's cool to be around. And my man Josiah, my bad ass realized I left you
Starting point is 02:24:44 out because you didn't play any NBA. No, it's fine. They do it to me every episode Josiah my badass realized I left you out because you know Don't worry, that's kind of just a running game here. These things will all find out soon enough what it is when it's Lower on all yeah, I want Anthony Miracolo to win just to your brother going to come too? I hope he does. If he comes, it might be a situation. He should have shot in it and took all y'all bread. But we said nay.
Starting point is 02:25:11 But Bo, we appreciate you pulling up today, man. Appreciate it, man. Thank you for having me. Again, right time with Bo Manny Jones on YouTube.
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Starting point is 02:25:23 and Fridays on YouTube. Bo, we appreciate you, man. Appreciate it, man. Thank you for pulling up. It's been another episode of Gills Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Whoop, whoop. We're about to shoot out Saturday.
Starting point is 02:25:34 Pull up at 1230 PM. Starts at 1. It's going to be tons of fun. See y'all there. We'll be right back. ДИНАМИЧНАЯ МУЗЫКА All right. We'll be right back. so One comment and then just sign it.

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