Gil's Arena - Cade Cunningham's Return Should TERRIFY The NBA

Episode Date: April 9, 2026

Cade Cunningham's Return Should TERRIFY The NBA according to Gilbert Arenas as Gil & The Gil's Arena Crew react to the Detroit Pistons superstar returning to the lineup earlier than expected following his collapsed lung and discuss what this means for the rest of the Eastern Conference as the league leading Pistons got their best player back ahead of the NBA Playoffs. They also discuss Cade's comments on the NBA's 65 game minimum rule as the All NBA hooper suggested he rushed back to earn awards for his career season and give their take on Allen Iverson's message to the NBA regarding load management. Next, they break down Bleacher Report's Top 15 pure scorers list and give their own rankings of the best hoopers at getting the ball into the net before reacting to the budding rivalry between Nikola Jokic & Victor Wembanyama and debate if the 2 other worldly superstars need to meet in the playoffs to establish a true rivalry. Finally, they react to former Denver Nuggets head coach Michael Malone agreeing to become the next head coach of the University of North Carolina Tar Heels and break down the NBA's proposals to curb the tanking epidemic. PLEASE give us a LIKE and SUBSCRIBE!! Today's Gil's Arena Crew : Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Brandon Jennings, Swaggy P & Rashad McCants Gil's Arena premieres every Wednesday & Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog HERE with promo code GIL and play $5 to get $50 in bonus funds or bonus entries https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... SUBSCRIBE:    / @thearena0   Read Rashad's Blog - https://rawrashad.com/?blog=y Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos!   / discord   Must be 18+ (19+ in AL, NE; 19+ in CO for some games; 21+ in AZ & MA) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369) 2 Min Countdown 0:00:00 Show Start 0:01:57 Cade Cunningham Returns To The NBA 0:05:52 Allen Iverson Speaks On Load Management 0:26:25 Gil Enters The Arena 0:31:40 More AI Discussion 0:34:14 NBA's Purest Scorers Ever 1:05:25 Joel Embiid Sidelined Again 1:20:04 Jokic vs Wemby Is The NBA's Next Great Rivalry 1:28:31 Happy Birthday Josiah 2:03:41 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We got a lot to discuss here's what's cracking in Gil's Arena today. Cade Cunningham made a surprising early comeback to the top seeded pistons from a collapsed lung. How has Cade changed the culture? in Detroit. NBA set to vote on anti-tanking draft lottery reform next month. But realistically, can anything be done to stop teams from tanking? And there have been some legendary bucket getters in NBA history, but who are the greatest pure scores of all time? We will get into it.

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And if you can't watch this show live with us on YouTube, we got audio versions available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcast from. So let's start this in Detroit. Despite reports, he would likely miss the rest of the regular season with the collapsed lung. Cade Cunningham made his return to the court Wednesday night for the Pistons in their game against the still Janus List Bucks. Cunningham had missed the previous 11 game. after suffering the injury early against the Wizards on March 17th.

So let's take a look at some highlights if we can, please. Okay, played 26 minutes in the blowout win, finished with 13 points, 10 assists, and five rebounds, six for 11 from the field. It was his 38th double double this season. All five piston starters, but less than 30 minutes in the game, as Detroit built a 26-point lead after just three quarters.

Still did not lay Yannis play with his brother. They lived here. Pins also had Isaiah Stewart back in action for the first time since March 13th. Detroit improved a four and one in their last five games and got their 58 win of the season. So unfortunately, even if Kay plays the last two games of the season, he would still fall one short of the 65 game minimum. Tragic, I hate to see it. but Kay can still apply for an extraordinary circumstances challenge, similar to Luca, no telling if the arbitrator will agree in his favor or not.

But after the game, Kay was asked about his thoughts on the 65 game rule, and if he would revamp it. That's a good question. I feel a lot of different ways about it. I think the, you know, what they were trying to do with is have superstars play and not sit out, you know, just to rest. fans pay a lot of money to come watch us play game. So I have a lot of respect for that.

I know the fans come to watch me play and I want to make sure that I'm available and I give them a show whenever they come out. So in that way, I respect the rule. I think it's a good rule in that way. It's tough for me right now this year because I think I've did a lot of work to, you know, be in consideration for awards and all-MBA and all that stuff.

So I'm in a tough spot, but I think, you know, it'll all play out how it's supposed to play out. And I'm just trying to, you know, do my best to help my team win. I'm hearing all this stuff about exceptions and all this other stuff. I don't know how all that stuff works. I'll just keep, you know, doing my job day by day and whatever comes will come, whatever's meant to be would be. Whatever's meant to be will be. Okay, 13, all-NBA last season. Like we said, it would be one game short of the 65.

game minimum unless they can work some magic behind the scenes. Pistons locked up. The top spot in the east this weekend had gone eight and three without Cade in the lineup. So despite this, Cade decided to try and finish out the regular season with his squad. Swagging, when you look at that, looking at what Cade had to say after the game coming back, everybody thought punctured lung, we weren't going to see him again to the playoffs. What are your thoughts on Cade Cunningham coming back after suffering a collapsed lung? I just like his answer. I'm glad he's back on the team. give his team a chance to get back jelling with each other before the playoffs.

But Cave, that was a, that was a woke answer for sure. He sounded very woke. He was doing this. He gave both sides of, you know, of the situation. And I believe a player like Cade, he should be eligible. In this case, you got elite MVP-type level players that's going to get race from history with when you add up all the accolades they ain't going to be able to meet these criteria even though they're trying to play and they're not you know they're not doing the

kawai and the spurs thing they're actually trying to get out there and unfortunately a collapse lungs happened at the end of the season so I think you should use be able to use common sense in in these situations. Most definitely obviously May 3rd. team all-N-B-A last season, likely to be potentially first team, if not second team, this season. But let's move over to Ushod, Dr. Rashom-McKhan's Ph.D. With your thoughts on Kay Cunningham, coming back with three games left in the season, Pissons really don't have anything to play for at this point except Pride.

I already had that top spot locked up. Kay said, F it, I'm going to come back anyway. Ah, man, it's love of the game. I think his answer reflects his studentry and his upbringing. and his upbringing and the people around him by how they show him the game and the respect for the game that he has as far as the fans. I think that's what it really comes down to is the fans and how much the fans contribute to the actual rule.

The rules not set for role players. Rules set for the star players and the star players show up, be available, be able to attend these games that these fans, you know, paying for you. You can imagine going to a Laker game, 14,000 seats, 14,000 for the seat and LeBron, Luca, and they are not playing and you're watching a bunch of the role players play. I mean, that's not good for the

fans. So I think making it a rule that players like him can accept and see where it benefits the fans. There is two sides to it where it comes, you know, Gil talk about it a lot, the owner's side. There's the owner's side of it

and it's the fan side of it. So I think that's where the rule comes in, try to benefit both sides. But I think Kay has done a lot for Detroit, putting him back on the map. They actually, you could see the difference to how they play with him and how they play without him. So last night I was able to see, you know, how much they need him in the East and locking up that top spot and being able to compete for the conference finals and making it all the way. So I love everything about what Kay brings to the table. He actually won me over with that.

Are you, were you not Rockwood Kay like that prior? Well, not all the way. over the top. Like I think that answer shows like everybody that's looking at these awards. He's like, look, man, if it happened and happened, man, I'm here to try to take my team over the top, like whatever I need to do for the team. So I don't think he's looking past the history. I think he feels like, you know, I got plenty of years to come and try to accomplish something that I could accomplish this year or last year or whatever, but he's not stuck on it. And I think I like that about it. We'll talk more about that in depth in the second way,

even Mr. B talking to you, when you look at this and how the long-term impact of this has, when we sit on couches like this years down the road, discuss who's the best, who's the greatest, who's, you know, now we've got to factor in. Oh, yeah, well, Wimmy would have got a defensive player a year if he didn't get hurt, or K would have made first team. For him, it feels like there's other guys who have won those awards, or been first team, all NBA, done all those things that have it on their resume. Now, Kade has denied that opportunity because he's literally one game short.

What do you think about that situation? To me, I mean, well, the playoffs is coming up. So go get those awards. You know, there's still Eastern Conference Finals MVP. There's the finals MVP. There's other awards that you can get that can prove to why you should have been that. Just because, you know, because of the 65-game rule, that doesn't mean that you still wasn't that guy.

So, you know, you have a chance where your team is number one. Coming back from this lung injury was crazy. And then being able to have a double-double is insane. So, you know, seeing that, Isaiah Stewart, out there, I think it's bigger than these individual awards. Yes, it does mean a lot, but if you can go into the playoffs, get to the Eastern Conference Finals, win Eastern Conference Finals, MVP, and take your team to the finals, don't even matter. You don't think, like, when you look back, you won't see that Detroit wasn't supposed

to be first in the East. Like you don't see that when we're going to talk about the couch and stuff back in the Later on, you know, C.K took eighth place or ninth place, wherever they were supposed to be sixth to eighth. And he took that team to be number one and got no awards for it. Say they lose in the playoffs. All that's done for. You don't think about that.

But is he eligible for anything? So not like... I mean, I think scoring scoring titles, things like that. All-N-B-8 nothing? It's like playing a video game, right? Like, you get halfway there or you get... almost there and then you lose to the boss, you got to start all the way over again. It's just, you got, you got next year.

And that's what his answer reflects. His answer is like, you know what? If I don't, you know what I'm saying? If it happened, having it don't and don't, I got next year. I respect that. I mean, you could get MVP that year. I would like to see. I mean, you can get MVP and still get sent home like Dirk.

Because you don't know what the, he just had a collapse one. He don't know what the future holds neither. That's the thing. And even here. Eric Rose didn't think after he won his MVP, It's going to be over after that. I look back and say you had something to do with the NBA at the end of the day.

You're messing with NBA history. Show your kids something. I think as a result of that, and obviously some other guys not making all-N-Ba not being eligible, you got guys like Jaylon Dern, who had a great season, will now jump up and essentially not take K-spot, but move up as a result of K not being there. And we talk about the other side of it, too. Now these dudes are going to say, where's my money at?

I need my supermax. Well, what is the one thing that covers all the band? if you don't win none of these awards. Winning the chip or advancing? And in the championship, right? So I think that's where his mind is. Like, let's try to win it all, so none of that may even matters. We end the history books, especially if you even go to the conference finals.

Like taking it to the conference finals, looking at Detroit. Boston, Detroit. Just getting the morale back. It's like, all right, yeah. You know, Detroit was 10th, eighth. Last two years, we were rebuilding. We were at the bottom bottom. We get J.B.

We get a couple of picks. We get a dirt and he's developed. We got a couple guys that can play. We don't, we number, we held number one down all season. I mean, that alone is a good thing, right? But then it's reminiscent to the Atlanta Hawks when they was number one that year with Jeff Teague and all of them. And then you got the pistons that they was trying to hold it down. And certain teams we see historically, we don't remember.

We would be like, we didn't remember they was number one. But for this particular scenario, I think Cade, he has enough talent, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Came in with an expectation, he'd been doing it. So I think to take it all the way to the finals and try to win it, it would be dope. It would, but what did none of them on that team make a first team, second, team, or our third team? Like, who's to say the big man going to make an all-N-B-A?

He could. He could. He could. He could, but you think it's like... I mean, he'll all the star. He top 20. But the beat number one and nobody really makes... Just say that happened.

Is that crazy? But what does it say about your team, though? It's like you've got one of them solid teams. It's like... But what if y'all go win it? Win it on. I don't think they could win it all this year. I think they could go to the finals or the East...

I mean, going to the finals is... I mean, I mean, somebody got... Somebody got something. Somebody got an MVP or something. And that already is. You should have to find where y'all was at. Wait, Boston, look, I don't know. That's going to happen.

So before we keep discussing, we got some commotion in the chat. Some rumblings that Gil will not be eligible for the 65 show minimum here at Gil's Arena. For all the games he's missed. Gil, on a minute's restriction, Gil actually posted in the chat. He said, he said, I'm loading, managing, I think load managing inside my car, drinking my Celsius. So Gil will be returning soon. just waiting to get approved by the Gil's Arena medical staff refused to participate in three-on-three

scrimmages last week with the rest of the show, but he will be here in just a moment. I'm loading managing. I'm loading managing. Can't be ducking the smoke, man. Other romies of Gil wanted to duck Rashad today. Gil, if you're watching, that's what the chat is saying. It's not me. It's not me. I'm merely ho.

I'm merely ho. He said nothing. But looking at this Pistons squad, Pistons have already secured their first 50-win season since 2008. They have two more games remaining on the schedule on the road against the Hornets and Pistons. If they could get two more wins, it would be their first 60 wins season since 2006. So, Shao, we'll start with you. How has Cade Cunningham changed the culture of the Pistons in his five seasons in the league? And I prefaced that with, we look at where this team was a few seasons ago.

What he was saying even back then, you know, everybody, hold tight. We're going to be all right. Just keep believing in us. And having the ability to actually accomplish that and change this to the top. seed in the Eastern Conference, 44 wins last season, potentially 58 to 60 wins this season. Well, historically, you look at where the Pissons were and then where they transitioned to, they've always had bright spots, I think, from Drummond, BJ, Stucky, you know, Monroe, like they always had players that could play Jackson, Reggie Jackson, all the guys.

as went to Detroit through the years. It's just been... BJ? I said, yeah, I said, B.J. So it's like one of those things where they've always had good players come through, but it was

like what coaches is going to match the actual culture that they're used to and bring them back to that championship prominence. And I think it started with the defense aside. Them getting, K was the number one pick? Was he not? 20-21.

K being a number one pick and you being able to say, let's build around something, right? You look at Detroit when there was 04, there wasn't a building block piece there that you say we're going to build around. Even though Ben Wallace was there probably the longest. You look at Tayshan, you look at Rip, you look at Chauncee, you look at all those guys. Those guys came in.

Lindsay Hunter was probably one of the guys that was there longer. Tonyo McDiice, then you bring in She. These are all now guys that they're building around a culture that is being resurfaced. This is something that they need to re-success. established. I don't think he's changing anything. I think he's bringing that feeling back, right? And changing arenas, being able to get a whole new feel for the whole Detroit market, I think Kay can do that. And I think he has the personality as we've seen that he cares about winning. It's not about his individual accomplishments. He's trying to restore something. And like you said,

he said in the press conference, be patient with us. We can do this. We can get it back. And I like that type of leadership, man. I think Jay, and Isaiah Stewart are two type of guys that will protect him and help him get to that no matter what. You got an Aman Thompson out there. It plays hard. Assar, my bad. Assar Thompson.

He's a really great defender, good defensive players. So you got three defensive players. You can't say Kay don't play no defense. He actually plays defense. Then you got a couple shooters out there that you can depend on. It may not play as much defense, but J.B. Biggerstaff got them. rolling and I think that he should get a lot more credit for that.

Let's shift over you, Mr. B, former Detroit Piston, but look at what, you know, in the previous seasons, what the Pistons represented, I think, longest in-season losing streak in NBA history a couple of years ago. But Cade emerging, number one overall pick, signature shoot line, all-NBA last season, should have been all-N-B-A this season, but Pistons' top seat in the East. What is Cade done for the culture of the Detroit Pistons? It's not just Cade. It's JP, too.

I think he should be coach of the year. I got a chance to talk to him earlier this year when I was in Milwaukee. Just his improvement since he's got the job from the player development, their top five of defense this year. But also Kate, and then Kate taking that next level of putting the responsibility on his back and his team on his back, and it's been showing with his play. But you know, you got to credit both guys, though, because it's a team and they're both working together. One Kate trusts J.B. and J.B. trusts his Kate. So I just look at it like, you know, it's a new, it's a new era and it's, you know, it's a different environment. You know, I mean, they still have that bad boy type style, of course, because of Detroit, but, you know, this is something different.

When last time Detroit made the playoffs before K got there? How long has been? When he got us? Was it like Zach? Is it? Sure. No, I said, before K. Yeah.

Uh, 2019. They got swept by the bucks in the first round. Oh, shit. Where the A-C didn't need. I'm trying to think went. Yeah, who was on that team? All right? One second.

I think the last time Pistons was like. Andre Drummond, uh, Reggie Jackson, Blake Griffin. Blake. Oh, yeah. That's when Blake was over there shooting jumpers. Yeah, if I remember that. It was all right. It was all right.

That was all right. That was hard. Badger was ball hogging that bitch out there. Yeah. Lou Conard, Lansing Galloway? Once Rodney Stuckey came, once he got Rodney Stuckey and traded, what's the point guard name?

Will? They traded... Chauncey? Yeah. That's when they start going down. They always had some good point guards, but... Yeah, when they got Brandon Knight. So we asked the chat, what's the picture?

What's the picture? Pistons ceiling this year, getting the options, NBA Finals, Eastern Conference Finals, second round, exit, first round exit. 47% in the chat thinks that the Pistons will make it through the Eastern Conference Finals. I believe so, too. I believe so, too, against, uh, against Ballast. Billy first round. Which is going to be, this is going to be great.

1-8 is going to be what, Charlotte? It has, Hornets, currently 9th. 9th. Yeah, so they could. Because Cleveland ain't getting in. Who eight? Philly right? about it. Philly eight? I thought Philly was six.

Philly's eight, but it's like, seven, eight. It's, it's a game. It's a game. Toronto. So Cleveland, Atlanta, Toronto, Orlando, Philly, Hornets. Orlando? Orlando, seven. But they're all like a game. So these next two games are going to turn it. Starting with Cleveland,

all of them with Cleveland? So Cleveland, I believe, out of it. Has the potential to jump to three. Oh, shit. If I'm not in a second, so you got the Nick and third right there. Oh. Has that has potential to jump. jumped to three.

I think that's... Atlanta, Toronto, Orlando. The lowest they could finish is fourth. And then you got the Hawks Raptors Magic. I don't like none of them teams against Detroit. I think the Hawks can get them. I don't like Philly. I feel like them.

I think Charlotte could surprise them. They can get Orlando, though. They could get Charlotte, though. I think they could just off of... Outlast them? They're young still. You know, they ain't... But that's what's scary.

about it. Like if they play well, they can jump out and win the game. But if they don't play well, it's like you're Charlotte. Yeah. Like, what the fuck? But all the other teams, Atlanta, Atlanta's scary. You've been very high on the Hornets. No, for sure. Horace playing good basketball. I like. They've been losing a lot of little small game. Like they win at the Boston and lost, that's a game they needed, but it's Boston. It's like they're going to let you get that. You got Taylor Brown after that game saying he sees a lot of the young Celtics in this Hornet squad. 35 on there. He wasn't going to let them win that game.

But if they can get a couple games, I'm still optimistic with Atlanta, though. Atlanta, look, way different. Way different. We got a good crew, Jail and Johnson, Nikol, Alexander Walker, a lot of. McKill is playing out of his mind. All on teams is young, though. Atlanta. I mean, they got McCullough on over there.

At least one guy that can show him something. Well, let's keep this thing moving. Playoffs start. Playing start next week. Playoff start next weekend. That's fun. That time of year, ladies and gentlemen. Doing that scouting reports.

All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. Alan Iverson has been a big critic of load management. A Hall of Famer took aim at the trend yet again recently when he posted the following to his Instagram. He said, this all hit different for me. Low management? They took me to hell for allegedly not practicing. Now they're crying about the players not playing games.

I play with every injury you could. think of to the point they had to hide my jersey to keep me from playing. True story. Now we're talking about the gang. Not practice. Not practice. We're talking about the gang. Don't cry now.

What the baby's going to do? We talked about this earlier in the week, Lively. I wanted to wait for you to get back on the couch to really dive into this thing. But when you see AI posting that, what's your reaction to Iverson's Instagram post? Full circle. Everything comeback, full circle, especially the observation. between us trying to figure out, is it the organization doing this

or is it the players that don't want to play? And we will never really truly know what it is because sometimes there are players that be like, yo, I don't want to play tonight. You would never know if that player is the guy that's like, yo, I don't want to play tonight.

But then there's the organization like what's happening with Yon is. Hey, yo, chill out. Yeah, like. And then you see like down in Utah, they got like eight guys. out for the season and certain guys like really tanking like and you looking at it like are these dudes just did they just pack it up or is the organization saying look y'all chill and you

don't talk to the press about it yeah and you don't and you can't if you do you know it's over hey we invest in this movement you move with us you with us and um like like a y i said you had to hide my jersey from me you know what I'm saying for me to not playing. Me talking about practice, y'all killed me for this. And that's, to me,

it's kind of like a shot at Stephen A and those guys because the national media should now have an outrage and make a thing of it like they made a thing of it before. You killed him for this.

For his practice, Connolly. Are we talking about it? And now we got guys don't even want to show up because it's Memphis and Milwaukee. Dark up. Like, juden will never miss practice. Man, you got to play, man.

Let's play. And that's why Kay's comment meant something to the fans. It's like low management. Man, if I can play, let me play. You know what I'm saying? That's why he came back. If I'm healthy, I feel like I can play, let me play. And I think that's important.

It's important. And AI is a, man, you talk about the horror hat. You're talking about a guy go out there and die on his shield. Man. Man, you can't compare a lot of the guys out there that will play with, broken something and torn ligaments and hitting the ground every time. All the path on. Man, I love that.

So, yeah, at 914 career games, average 41 minutes per game. God. Out of 48? 27 points, 4 rebounds, 6 assists in this. You know how many people might have? It's just sad to the fact that this is where the game has come. Like, they don't even practice. Like, so it's so many things that is where it's like, we don't even practice now.

There's so many other things that we can mess out. on but now we got miss out on our game like we could since we don't practice like we're already getting the rest I know for one thing I feel like every player will they just miss practice in these little activities and all this other stuff we got to do besides missing the game so I'm gonna get a little bit I just kept your seat warm for you kept your seat warm oh no I don't want no situation in walking he get attacked right there you get attacked right here it is kind of nice over here I like sitting close Ladies and gentlemen, entering his arena.

I love you. Hey, what fellas doing, man. NBA legend, our graders, most wanted, Gilbert Arena. Demon home. Demon home. That ain't gonna lie, man. Y'all's starting to boring

into the motherfucker in that car. Man, I had to drink Celsius to try to watch y'all. You drink Celsius? Yeah, delicious beverage. Enjoying. You look skinny and shit. Doing your push-ups? I get ready for a hard time.

Nice. Glad that you pulled up the chat and yourself said you were low managing. So we just... Yeah, I've been low managing, man. So we talked about Alan Iris' comments against low management. Ian, can we pull that back up, please? If you don't mind. So, yeah, I said this is all here different for me.

Low management, they took me to hell for allegedly not practicing. Now they're crying about the players not playing games. I play with every injury you could think of to the point they had to hide my jersey to keep me from playing. True story. Now we're talking about the game. Not practice. Not practice. We're talking about the game.

Don't cry now. What the baby's going to do? When you hear AI saying that, what does that mean to you to see him be such an advocate against this new age trend of load managing? Okay. He's correct on the sense of, you know, that era and the era before had to actually go out and play. Right? injured, half injured, the idea was I want my best product on the floor at all times.

So playing through injuries, they had to hide the jersey so he wouldn't play. Now, those guys are smarter than the guys before. Because now you're, I got to hide the jersey from you. That's what we're going to do now. So, Alan Iverson, the coves, all those guys, we lost their three. careers because of injuries. Right? So now if you look at today's game, you have Curry playing at 37.

That's true. You have James Harden. Look what they're doing at this age while everybody else's body was falling apart. Right? Done at 35. Before us, done at 33, they was out of their primes. Right? So now these guys, how Alan Iverson looked at 27, 28, they're looking like that at 37 now.

So it's like, yeah, we're going to take 10 games off, we're going to make sure you're not playing banged up so we can extend your career so I can have you longer. Now think about Alan Iverson in Philly, like Curry and Golden State. I have my product longer, meaning I get to sell out seats longer, years, decades, right?

More jerseys every year, like clockwork with staff and all these guys that's sitting in these cities, damn, they're 20 years, right? Instead of me having him for a great 11, right? So they're just extending the years. It's the same, let's say, 1,500 games, but instead of having it in 10-year span, I'm having it in, you know, 17, 18.

You know, so I understand what Alan's saying, and that is the basketball player ain't changed. The goal is still a goal. I want to go out there. I want to compete. I want to win a scoring title. I want to win. We come in with individual thought process,

and then the team atmosphere is what turns us into champions and stuff like that. But all NBA, defense to stop, scoring titles, all of that is still what makes you the top five, the top 10, right? It gives you those contracts. So I want to be on the court. I want to play, right? I want to be out there. You know, so, but if you're going to say, hey, we're going to lower manage you today,

we're, um, take the day off, well, you know, you got a little calf bruise. Okay, we're going to take, you know, we're going to take seven, eight days off, right? That's, it's, the, the, the people who's who own these teams, they're investing now in longevity. It's not, I need you to get out there because season tickets is, ticket holders is complaining. That's not the thing. That was the thing with us. Right?

Where, you know, I'm, you know, my injury is my injury. And they're like, no, no, come on. Come back. Let's go. Let's go. Let's see what you got you got your boss. Right? You know, they're like,

but ain't that the thing that got AI traded to? What? The practice incident? I'm going to just be honest with you. It was a weird, it was a weird backlash against Iverson of practicing. Every superstar was like, who the fuck practices? Like, ooh, like, practice for the star. Like, what plays, what plays in practice are we?

Like, let's just be honest. Let's just think about the game itself. Are we going to take the superstars of the NBA, right? When you in practice and you have Luca, right? Luca. Kade. What plays are y'all doing in practice if we see the game? We see the game.

So you're going to waste two hours of practice for him to do picking rolls, right? Picking rolls, look for people. No, what you're going to do in practice is what? Do some regular-ass plays you're never going to call in the game. So practice in reality, the way is played now, five out, what are you practicing for? The superstars are going to take 20, 25 shots? That's not your practice. Your practice is getting a whole bunch of people involved.

That don't get the ball in the game. Right? So the star player didn't practice so there can be a real practice. Because if you put the star player in there, then all he's trying to do is get activated so he can tell whoever's guarding his ass up. And if he is in practice,

he ain't doing what he does in the game. So it's not a real thing. But why not, though? If, like, why wouldn't you do that if you got players, like, so how would your teammates get in the rhythm with you? Like, if Luke is not practicing, right, all these passes and stuff,

how would they know they're all coming and all this stuff? Does, like, you, do you do? But that's what I'm saying. I know what I'm saying. Like, so do they just, okay, here, just sit in this corner because Lucas is going to pass it right here and just shoot 300 shots? But that's what they've been starting to do. I know, but wouldn't it be a better thing if Lucas is passing me the ball so I can get used to it?

Like, it is, but when has it happened? It shouldn't matter who passes you ball. No, but I'm saying the rhythm of how he plays, though, you still need to. It's one thing to just go to the corner and be like, all right, like, spit to the corner. and shoot 10 threes, but it's like, if it's a game rhythm, like with Lucas, like, okay, I know how it's coming. Like, it's different. Let's talk who for a second.

We gotten away from what we essentially loved about practice, which was executing. We got plays. We're going to execute the plays, which is why we practice. Usually, we got secondary offense. We're going to run four outside. We're going to run turned down with the double screen on the weak side. it depends on who on the weak side me and Nick let's just say

you playing the two you playing three I play the four BJ playing the the one he bring it down he called a play me and you know that depending on what side of the floor depending on where we I might get it or you might get it and same as him if we're doing the two hawk

if we do two hawk from up top it's coming from him we got to space out we got to be where we at but we executing these plays based on who the star of the team is. If Gil's the star of the team, he had two hawk. We know this plays for him. We're running this play based on what the defense is going to do against this play.

Not necessarily trying to figure out who we're going to get a shot. It's like how we're going to execute when the game come down. That's what y'all said as far as not happening no more. That we don't do no executing because there is a five-out offense where we know he's taking 25 shots on the picking road. There's no need for us to practice executing a play because there's really no play to execute. There is a play. It's the notion that. I think you got to be smart out there now.

Like pick and roll, you know, to get in this spot, move over here. And back then, calling on them plays, views getting up to, what, 80 points. Yeah, today they get up. Now they're going to a hundred. So you're pushing ahead. They're throwing that bitch ahead. But the procedure is. Remember you used to run the corner in this state here?

You're talking about low management now. Our cross. Remember, the conversation is. on the load management. You're moving the ball. You're running up and down more, right? A lot of the energy is being exerted on conditioning. Now, not weightlifting and being strong and being sturdy

because back then we actually had time. We're using the 24 shot clock. Now, then Tony comes in and says, we want you to shoot it seven seconds or less, eight seconds or less. Now everybody's moving faster. Yeah. So now your body is actually going to be beat up more

than it was before because your, you're spending more time running. So guys are more tired, right? But the AI shit was coming from him being knocked down to the ground. B-Wa being knocked down to the ground. Shit, Gil was knocked to the ground. Like, let's it fall down, setting, get up. Man.

So wouldn't that hurt you more? If I'm running up and down, I'm not doing contact, I should be, it should be better. I've been trying to hear the argument from today's game of it's harder. but how is it harder for you if you never played back in the day? Right? Because if we was running from baseline to baseline because the ball went inside and we had to get through two big defenders, right?

We're getting to the free throw line. We're picking up full court, pressing and all that stuff. How can you say today's game is much faster if you're just going from 3.3 to 3. right issue three and three so majority of the time y'all are not even getting all the way up and down y'all are not running all the way through the game like you know what you have to sprint and get out the other side so that means the pace is faster the pace is faster with the face is well no no no no that is an illusion no it can't we averaged a hundred and five to a hundred and ten points right with less threes that means we're getting layups and free throws, meaning we're getting hit more. And we're using a shot clock more. All you got to just look at the shots.

And so I'm looking at a score. And I'm looking at a score, and this today is supposed to be two times faster. How can you have a two-time faster game in you score? A team scores 98 points. A team has 90 and 96. Another team has 95, 102, 105, 87. 103 and you're shooting

53s 48 3s 48 3s a game because you're taking more threes but you're not making them at a high rate to overcome

layups you're taking more shots right so if you're taking 53s we took 14 that mean there's more though because you no no no no no we're talking about the output

you're just talking about the output the output if I'm if you're if you're both taking 90 shots 80 of mine is layups. 50 is yours as threes, but you're missing your threes, and we're coming into the same output. You're not moving faster.

It's actually lazier. Yeah, you're playing lazy basketball. Like, I can tell you right to playing three. And it's a lot more bad shots. And it's a lot more bad shots. No, no, no. Three on three is tired. Three on three is tired.

When you get older, when you get older and lazy and you're out of shape, when you're playing 24-hour fitness, what is 90% of your game? Three. You're just shooting jumpers. I was settled for the three because I don't want to spend more energy. Yeah. Yeah.

Right? So it's hard to really track on who's moving faster, but we can say the 60s moved better. See, that's what I said. History says today's game is not moving as fast as they think. Because 60s, no threes. They were getting to it. They're averaging 120, 130. Yeah, yeah.

It makes way more sense when you put it like that. because not only is it lazy, but it's bad basketball. When you're talking about taking bad shots, think about it. It's a lot of bad shots. Just hear me out. Think about how bad the shots are when you come down. There is no play. Three seconds on the shot clock.

Motherfucker just shoot that shit. Offensive rebound. What usually happens when you get an offensive rebound? Joe, you know you play college basketball, get an offensive rebound. What happens? You get it out. You reset the offense. That takes it one.

They're shooting that. We got a new shot. But why I reset, if I'm wide-up, because we got a new shot clock. We have time. That's the pay. Get the rebound, find the guard. So when you do that, what you're saying, you catch it,

you're open, right? And you miss it again, right? Now we get the rebound. We now have a fast break opportunity based on your long shot, long rebound, we push it ahead. Now guess what we get? We get a layup.

You just took two. threes, bad shots, we come down, get a good ethical layup based on just... How's that a bad shot? If you doing all that to get a guy an open shot, you're doing all that, and I'm open, and you pass it with me and say I missed the three. You do, you rest all the shot clock, and I'm open, and I miss the three still. And get the offensive rebound. And y'all do it all again, and the next person is open, and he missed it.

Guess what we're doing? We're making the same thing. You're doing all that in one minute and I did that in 13 seconds. No, because we're executing a good shot. It's a difference between the good shot. How's a good shot if he's open? If I get off the board and you open, if I get off the board and I pass it to you and you. A wide open.

You're Jared Vanderbilt. You're Jared Vanderbilt. No, I mean, okay. No, we don't have to. No, you're Nick Young. Oh, Nick Young. Okay. So if you're Nick Young. So, Nick, I'll post it to the top to the guard.

No, no, no, no. If you're Nick Young and we get the Office of Reband and I pass it to you, I want you to shoot that ball. Okay, right? Because you're Nick. You shoot 38% from the three. That's a good, solid shot for you, but it's still a quick, bad shot. No. It is.

Because you're doing all that and say Brandon come off the pick and hit me with the same place. No, no, no, this is what different. The same shot. Brandon gets the ball back at the top of the key. You got the offensive. We're going to Nick. We're going to run Nick's play now. Now we got a chance to get a clean shot for you, bro.

Not a fast. We get your shot that we be practicing on. Open, I'm open. Yes. But look. You open, you open. If you open and shoot the ball. The difference is we have 24 seconds to get you a good shot that you like.

Yeah, you open. But look, if you miss it, it's a quick, bad shot. The coach is looking like, man, look, man, y'all keep shooting the ball after offensive rebound. Let's set it back up. Let's make them work on defense. I think he's, I think the problem is you're thinking about yourself. So let me do this for you. No, I'm thinking about the pace of the game.

No, no, I'm going to give you the pace of the game. Like, this pace is able to get everybody shot. Not just the star. You run the play to get to the post. Now, that's what I want to talk to you about. Okay. Yeah. I see.

I just look, if it's 99. No, no, no. No, no. When I left, right, when I left, oh, no, I'm on a team. So it's me, Javelle, John Walker, Conner, Andre Blotch, you, Alonzo G. Right? We shot a game, we shot 17 threes. Right?

17. That means threes. Right? Now, they're saying you have to take 45 threes. Now, this becomes a problem. Who is going to take the extra 43s? We got to take 30 more threes now.

So we have to take 30 more threes from this team. Who is taking them? Right? I took nine in this game. That means McGee. That means McGill— I mean, I'll take nine. So, because you two this game.

I didn't shoot that many three. No, but I'm saying you took two. So that means Andre Blotch got to sit there and shoot more. Kirk Henry got to shoot more. John Wall got to shoot more, right? McGill's going to chuck up some, right? Trevor Booker got a three. So you see how many more people are going to be taking shot?

Because we might not be able to give you your 10-3s. You might not be able to give me 10-3. So that means John Wall is going to have to take 10-3s. Andre Blotch is going to have to take 10-3. So now you see where the bad shooting comes from. Because shooters who can't shoot because they get that outlet instead of looking for a view, I'm going to shoot it. It's the bad shots from the shooters who can't shoot that you're saying, go ahead and shoot it because you're open. You're open shooting.

You know, we know you can't shoot it. But they don't know the personnel. They do. No. But that is their personality. Everybody is supposed to be a shoot the three. But no. That's the game.

Supposed to. Like OKC. But if you're open. How many players on each team and the NBA can shoot over 30? 37% percent. And that's why they're always good teams and always. But would you say the teams have better shooters now than they did? Yes.

Uh-uh. I wouldn't. That's why it's good teams and bad teams. It's an illusion of guys that can shoot the ball and guys who are streaky. No, it's not. I think they're not better. They're just programmed like bigs are programmed not to shoot that motherfucker. Back then?

People was programmed not to shoot. So that don't mean you're a better shooter. You just know if you shoot this dumb shit, you're going out the game. Why were you programmed though? Because you're a big. There wasn't open-minded. No, no, no, because you're a big. This era is open-minded.

Oh, they give a program. That's how they taught the game. Kevin Love. Now they teach the game something different. Now Joker brings up the ball. They teach the game something different. Kevin Love, right? When Kevin Love came in the league, they was telling him not to shoot the three.

I know. Right? When they took KG out of there and it became a big system where it wasn't throw it into the post, Kevin, we need you to shoot more threes now. That limiting your game, like you take- You put limits on players back in the day. Like, you can't have a player you can't do certain things. But if you can't do it, you can't do it.

You can't do it, but he can't. He can't do it. Even if you could, you knew you couldn't. No, what I'm saying is we're not talking about imagine. You can't change this. Imagine Javelle allowing to shoot the shots he wanted to shoot. But he know he can't. That's like saying, but we know.

We know he can't. But the system now says, go do it because you're open. They're saying work on it in the summer. We need to get, I don't see Goldberg and none of the niggins. But a player like Andre Blatz that could play all around, he could shoot that. He was shoot. They told him no shoot. He was shooting it anyway.

He can't bring it up. He could dribble, do everything. If he got the rebound, he was dribbling it up. But if he got the rebound, he tripled it up. No, he got the pass. Instead of passing it to my three-point shooter now, the Andre Blotch gets the rebound and he's at the three. He's going to shoot it more because he don't have to. to give it to you now. So now,

Javel, I don't have to give it to you now. I'm going to shoot it. So now, instead of giving it to my shooter, my worst shooters are going to shoot more shots. But that's why Bam half 83. Bam wouldn't be able to shoot threes back in the day. These guys would be limited. No, that's Andre Blatch right there.

He wouldn't be limited. He'd be to have his post back to the wall, face-up shit all day. He wouldn't be able to do all this shit. Bam would be similar to like Rashid Wallet. He could stretch the floor. He's a stretch B. He's not a limited B.

Remember, I have to get 40 more threes up or 30 more threes into this game. So that means it's just not Andre Bloc. It's everybody. So that means now they're coming off, anybody who feels they're open is going to take it. So Jared Jeffries on our team is taking a shot. And I'm sure he'll be working on it. But now think about it. You've been shooting three your whole life.

Okay. You've been shooting three-year-old three-point shooter. You are a three-point shooter, three-point shooter, right? And then they're like, hey, we need to get 30 more threes up. Gilles start working on your three. Okay, start working on. So now, now, like, get the ball. Yeah, get the possessions.

Like, you're getting better. Now, instead of me passing you and swing it, you know, swing, swing to my shooter. Now I'm going to shoot the ball and I'm just learning how to shoot the three. But because we got to take 30 more, I get to throw it up there. I mean, listen, we saw it happen with Boston. They won. Yeah. They won right.

But they got shooting threes, right? Was Derek White of three-point shooting? Yes, like that. Yes. But the thing is they're not limited. It's not limited to just this type of player can do everything and everybody else sit around. Well, it's not about limiting the player. No, it's about changing the game of basketball.

This is changing the game. So what you've done is you've taken execution out based on a player that cannot shoot the ball. You're saying he can, now you're saying go work on shooting, right? We know our team dynamic is. This is the shooter. This is the slasher. This is the rebounder. How are you going to tell somebody what they are?

It's called a roll. It's called a role now. You put somebody in a row and they just can't do nothing. Gary Vanderbilt, what's your role? You're telling me he's the shooter now? He just took him out of the fucking game from missing three free throws. You think that he's the shooter that Jay J.J's like, shoot that shit every time you're open? No.

No. He has a role. Do you want him shooting? He has a role. Right now I do. Now, right now. You can't right now. I mean, we don't have nothing else.

He don't shoot, period. So now. But this is where the game, everybody's sued three. So you might as well just work on your three. Now, think about what you said. Like, shit. Think about what you said, and you can see why the points are not 150, 100, 140. Because if Vanderbilt shoots 15% from the three, and you say, I don't have no shooters, that's the worst one you want to shoot it, but he gets to take 10 of them.

He's not taking 10. He ain't going to make 30 points. You know he ain't going to make them all. He might make one or two. Shooting 31% from the field. So now you want him shooting. They didn't do better than a lot of people back in our air. But they didn't shoot it.

Shooting 31 3. But I'm saying. But they knew better to execute. We had plays for dogs. Play mentality. No, we had. You can't get better. Bro.

But we had played. No, they just had. They had roles back there. No, we had plays. But if you didn't, if you wasn't a shooter and you had the three point line. Cut. Take a dribble in and show that. Don't just chuck a three.

If you know you're going to miss that. Right. Like, I'm looking to go to. state team, right? Curry taking 10 shots, right? Of course, 10 threes. Clay, taking eight threes.

Kevin Durant, taking five. Now, this is the problem with the rest of the league. Curry's taking 10, we know why. Clay, we know why. Now, do you think your team is going to be successful

if your best player is taking 10, 3, 3, and your second best player is taking eight. And they're not Clay and Curry. And that's what happened to the league. You're trying to mimic the best three shooters. And damn your NBA wins. And you're taking 25.

Brooke Lopez. Brooke Lopez is a perfect example. Brooke Lopez. He had to learn how to shoot the three. Drimond Green took four threes a game. It expanded his game and he became an NBA champion. That's what it did. No, it did fuck up the game.

He became an NBA champion. He was average. He's a Hall of Famer. He got older. He was averaging 20 in Brooklyn. He got older. He was throwing the ball to him in the post. He was a cold player.

He was a cold player. Now we can literally not worry about Brooklois. No, you have to. No, we don't. Yes, he's going to shoot threes, and he's not going to be able to get offensive rebound. He's taking him away from the basket. He's not a shot blocker.

He's just a shooter. He's been, now, okay. He's just a shooter. He's not even in his counter report. The fact that you said, Spain, your game shows you. It's not an expansion if you're giving up the other shit that made you the real player. He didn't start shooting three so he was 28. 28.

So the rest of his game was that? So what was his game before? What was his numbers before? Hold on a second. His numbers was 19 in the game. He was actually rebounding. What you mean? He didn't start shooting three to the 2016-2017 season.

He went from 0.2 in 2015-16 in 10s per game to 5.2. What was his points per game average? And that's fine because the game is the game. 20 a game. The game is changing, but think about it was 20. But you haven't really a year before taking 0.2-3s per game, average 20.6. Was it the Brooklyn still? Yeah, it was in what?

Every point six, taking 0.2 3s per game. The next season he took 5-3s in the game, average 20.5. So nothing changed. So it didn't go up. It didn't go up. And then. It helped his game and they became NBA champions. The Brooklyn has didn't become the NBA champion.

The Milwaukee Bunch did. But he was, what he was the average. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't. He did his role. He played his wrong. So if we're talking about role players, if we talk about play your role player, then what we just say?

Explain your game. Explain your game. Get better. Stop being one dimensional. No, no, the thing is not you get better. Yeah, of course, you work on your game. We got better. No, you do it personally, but don't do it on company time in the game.

So let's say Ben Simmons, right? You're the coach. How many threes would you allow Ben's to do? I'm going to ask you, how many threes would you allow Ben Simmons to take? And because of that, Ben didn't shoot no three. How many. I'm not going to ask. How many threes would you allow Ben Simmons to take?

How many shots would you allow Ben Simmons to take? He doesn't shoot three. He doesn't shoot. He doesn't shoot. Now, what if he took 10-3 a game? Does that help the team or does that hurt the team? If he works on it? If he's not working on it.

If he's working on it? Even if he's working on it. If he's working on a hell, he worked. No, no, no. And he's still missing that shit out there in the game. He's still missing it. We've seen him working on his threes. And he still missed him.

He don't shoot in the game. He didn't shoot a three for 22-something games. Why didn't he shoot? He got traded because he don't shoot it. Why didn't he shoot it? Why didn't he? Because he don't work on it. He don't work on it.

Have anybody watched Ben Simmons in summer? Yes. Can he shoot the ball? Yes. Very well. Yes. He shoots. She actually... Very well. He shot that much.

He shot very well. Thank you. Got into the game. And then shoot. This is not my game out here in the game. So he's missing his shots. Now, how dumb do you have to be if you've already win

0 and 5 from the 3? To take 10 more 3. Man. Shooter. Right? Do you sound like a winner? I thought it was talking who? Or if I'm talking who? If you're not a three-point shooter,

and you're over five. That's not what we're saying. You don't get better in the middle of the fucking game. The thing is from Hube and just went all March. And then he started hitting. Now he's making it stop. Who? Who?

Tari. He went zero for 21 and then what? Is he a shit? Not because he's making threes, bro. What are you talking about? But you guys are mixing up what the conversation is. The conversation is this. If your bad shooter is a bad shooter,

how many shots are you going to just keep allowing him to take when it's open? I have you here. You are my shooter, and the ball comes to me. I don't make threes, right? That's not my thing. But because we're supposed to take 30 more. He's not swinging to you. I'm not swinging to you.

I'm just going to like they do it. They do do it. I don't see Goldberg shoot threes like that. I don't see Gobert shoot threes a game. And what's the problem with Dreymann shooting three. Y'all name it people. You're saying Gobert. I don't see Dreymont shoot 10 threes a game.

He took, I'm looking at a year. He's taking five a game. Okay. That year they won a championship too. Four of them doing it. So how many? So he's shooting, let's say he's shooting 15%. Do you still want him taking five threes?

And you got Steph Clayton and Katie on the court? Whatever he did. See, because I can tell you, but I can tell you, no, I can tell you there are certain players like Sean Limison knew he didn't shoot threes. He didn't do it. He's going to find his three-point shooter. Equalda, I'm going to find my, I'm going to take one three. If I make it, capable shooter, I'm going to take it. If I don't make that, I'm not going to keep jeopardizing shots when I have a team here.

So that's, that's really all it is. But they get so many possessions. But I'm just saying, like, how many. It's not about Harkinside. What if he just, what if he did? I was saying Jabel will have to shoot. No, they don't shoot. The bad shooters don't shoot like they.

Harkinstein don't shoot. Because he's smart enough not to shoot. No, Byrne don't shoot. Because he's smart enough. No, God is saying anybody knew, they don't shoot. Yeah, but we're talking about the majority of the league, bro, not just two guys that you just going to point out. You pointed out two guys back in the day. That's obvious.

No, I'm trying to say if Javelle shot three, they don't, people that don't shoot like that. He's saying you have to shoot more three because. you're shooting more three. Back then, you would have to, Javel would have to shoot more three. Because he's part of the off. Are you not doing the math? Highside, whatever the nigga's name,

he don't shoot three. Because Ted is. What are you talking about? And he's a shooter. Bro. Is Kamenga a shooter? From the three-point line. Can he shoot?

Yeah. Do you mind him taking seven threes? Yeah, I don't mind it. You don't mind him taking seven threes. Right? Does he shoot that good to take seven threes? Go ahead. Second most on the team.

Do Wimby shoot that good? Chris Dunn. Chris Dunn. Do Wimby shoot that good? Do Wimby shoot that good? Shoot 103s? He shoot 37%. So what is he shooting from the three?

I don't know. I'm just looking at a box score. And I'm looking at, you know, remember, if we have to take 40 more threes, it's not like the 43s are going to go to my best player. That means players who don't shoot threes are going to keep, they have to. It's part of office.

So if Luca, goes and he throws it to Vanderbilt and Vanderbilt is open, he is told shoot that three. That's why he shoots the three. He's told to shoot the three now. Now you, you, even though this is a great pass, that is a great shot, but it's not coming from the guy that we can't. 39% this season, 33. Name me a guy on the Wizards that you know.

But if it was the Wizards back in the day, I don't know the Wizards. I don't know the Wizards. I'm going to say if I was on the team back in the team. I would shoot the six or seven three. I'm talking about this. This wizard scene. So we have to bump it up. So you're, yeah.

Me fucking, what's his name? Fort Worth. The Antonio Daniels? No, we didn't have it. The Sean Stevenson was shooting more three. He was three. Karam Butler will have to shoot more threes. Antoine Jamerson will have to shoot more three.

Now, he had 50. With the office, y'all had, it would be like, yeah, y'all would be good, right? Yes. We're not in the game all the time. Okay, that means I would get more shot. Dominant McGuire, Dominic going to shoot more three. Dominant going to shoot more three. Dominant going to shoot everybody's tuned.

Michael Ruffman going to shoot a couple of three. Mike Ruffling. More shots. Brandon Haywell going to do a couple of three. More not. You still get your 30, but I still get my shots too. You get your 30 and I still get my shots. Instead of you get your 30 and I got to get five or two points and sit there.

You get 30. You get 30. I still get 15. But the one of the current wizards. You're not thinking about. a problem. You're thinking because you're a shooter. So that means how many people on the team shot better than you? Not that many, right? Not nobody. Right? So now imagine. You were the one thing. No what I'm saying is. Imagine everybody else is getting those threes besides you.

So what is the likelihood? Like we know you're going to make it. Everybody else gets to throw it up there too. But I'm still going to get my shot though. You're going to get your shot. You're going to get your That's because there's more volume. You're not going to get all the shots. I'm not supposed to take everything away from them because, oh, we got to run everything through me. No, we push ahead. Get your shit off. Yes.

That's a part of basketball. Soccer. Shot gray, shoot the ball before Nicky. He's just. What you mean? He named him. I know. You just name Harkisdine.

He don't shoot three. You just name Harkinson. He don't shoot three. The idea is this. Shade don't kick it to Harkin and Harkinsstein. No, what I'm saying is the idea is this. It's this. It's we have our three-point shooters.

Then we have average and then we have below. Below an average is getting more opportunity to shoot the three. Right? So if you're not sitting in the gym, and this is why there's no practice now, this is why this era is more skilled development. Okay. So they're saying, you know what? Instead of five-on-five, Luca, you're doing what you're doing,

Austin Reeves, you're doing what you do. We don't need that. There's no point of practice. What we're going to do is. we're going to say, hey, Vando, you're going to take 500 threes in it. Corner three, corner three. This is where you're going to get this by. So now all those guys are sitting in the gym shooting threes.

That's why I say when you shoot 40%, and I'm sitting here like, Yeah, that's crazy. All 40% is open. So why are you only shooting 40%? Yeah. Seth Curry's shooting 40% and he's on the move running through triple teams. Like you're by yourself shooting threes. Yeah.

Your percentage is supposed to be higher. That's why, like, when Pat Ben, dragged about I shoot better than Duane Wade, that's not a flex. You're by yourself, right? If someone's doing an office, you're in the corner, you should be at 60, 70% shit.

You shoot a free throw. You're shooting a free throw. That shit was still funny. Let's keep this thing. I laughed at that. Let's keep this thing moving. Let's keep this thing moving. Bucking getting truly in our form

have been plenty of elite bucket getters throughout NBA history. report recently dropped a list of who they consider to be the 15 greatest pure scores of all times. So let's take a look at the list. They used a weighted three-tier criteria to formulate the list, taking into account points per 75 possessions with a minimum of 10,000 minutes played. Relative true shooting percentage, the player's true shooting percentage minus the league average at the time and free throw attempt rate, which they ranked lowest to highest.

So Steph Curry took the top spot on the list, followed by Katie. I'm like, no, no, no. No, because we got to hear how they ranked it. No, it don't matter. No, I know it don't matter, but we still got to see the formula of it. So it was a three-tier criteria to formulate the list. Points per 75 possessions with a minimum of 10,000 minutes played. It's the key.

Relative true shooting percentage, the player's true shooting percentage minus the league average at the time, and free throw attempt rate, which they ranked lowest to highest. So they dinged you if you took a lot of free throws. They deemed you in terms of if you're being a bad. pure score. So Jane's not even on here. This is some kids. I was wondering why James,

our name went on here. So I'm going to say, so you're a pure score. If you are an assassin at scoring that ball, you're getting foul. Yes, for sure. Right? It's a kid that did this. No, okay, so this is the problem with this list is, no offense.

All these guys up here, obviously they put the ball in the basket. Feels like some recency. No, when we're talking about pure scoring from scores, right, people who score. It's the ability to create your own shot, the ability to get to wherever space you are, right? It's the craftsmanship of putting the ball in the basket. Now, I don't know where, right, this means all levels of scoring, right? three, MIDI, ISO, post up, flares, downscreens. That means if we cut something off, cool, I can do something else.

If I'm going to take away your three, I got the MIDI. If I take away the mini, I got the free throw. I can post up to the back. You are a all-around flat score, and a lot of these guys just don't fit that idea. Is it pure, though, Gil? That's what pure is. Is it ethical? Yes.

That's crazy, bro. But here's a list of Steph. Steph, top spot, KD, MJ 3rd, M.B., LeB., LeB., the Iceman, George Gervyn. He won't only Iceman. Like, I'm not getting a typical. Like, Joel NB., on number four, is a cringe. Like, the list, I don't, the order of the list that I'm not even going to get into the order of the list, right? That's why I've seen an argument.

Because obviously, Kobe's going to be one. Kobe, KD, Michael Jordan, when it comes to pure scoring, they're top three. How you put it in order, that's up to you. but those are the top three most purest scores. Curry will be in that category. Kyrie for sure. Yeah, Kyrie. Janice wouldn't be in there.

Shaquille O'Neill wouldn't be in there. James Hardin is in there. James Hardin is in there? No, James Hart. LeBron wouldn't be in there. No, not a Pooreux? I put Ant man in there? Yeah, no.

He got done. T-Mack. No, T-Mello's on his list. Melo. I put AI in there. You can put a, people argue for AI. But you're talking about Larry Bird is on this list, right? Pistol Pete is on this list.

You consider Yolkitt is a pure score. I mean, I'm not even going to lie. No, not even the efficiency. He's a three levels. You can put a Joker on. He's posting up. He's ice-going. He's hitting the middies.

He's hitting the three. You will put him in this category. I don't know. He'd be the only big. I don't know. He's the first big. You can know, Hakeem. Hakeem?

Yeah, for real. Right, he didn't extend to the three-point line, but that's something new, but shit, dirt. But he's dunking on the motherfuckers, too, though. Dirt Nguinsky? Yeah, but wouldn't Yokis be the number one big, though? No. As a person. No.

No. No. Not over Hakein. Not over Hakein. Yokic. Sorry, would you put in Bid over Yokkish? Yokic is a three-level four. He can't, he can't jump.

Jumping the ability is in there, too. You got to be able to take off from the motherfucker. You got to put the ball in the basket. Yeah. But there's a lot of guys. Like, if you would take this away, you object. Yeah, that's pure score. Yeah, you can jump.

Yeah, that's jumping. So we hear the term. Like Vince, like I have Vince as a peer score. We hear the term free throw merchant. Yeah, that's like, like when you think of number five. Like I'm just thinking about the idea of the ball in bat. I don't care if you average 38 or not. I get it.

The ability to put the ball in the bass. Go get me a bucket. Go get me a bucket. Go get me a bucket. How much you guys are all former hooper? Do you feel like dinging free throws? To me, the ability to draw fouls is a part of pure scoring. Yeah, so shame.

All of them are pure scores. Like LeBron is in a pure score, right? Like, he can score because he's stronger, bigger. But this, when you take out physical attribute, you can see. And the idea of putting the ball in the basket. That's why Kyrie will rank high. Without trying to get a foul. Like, I think pure scoring is taking that aspect out of it.

Like, I don't even need the foul. I go get a bucket without the referees help. I can go get it. Like, KD is one of them niggies that can go get a bucket. I don't need your help. I don't need your screen. Kyrie, I don't need a screen. AI, I don't need the screen.

Vince, I don't need the screen. Cove, I don't need a screen. Mike, I don't need a screen. Joel N.B., hey, listen, watch out. I got him on this ice. Camelo. Like, it's so many guys that can actually do that. Like, Carleon, I wouldn't put Carleone in there.

What about somebody like Kauai? You know, B's a thing? You know what? You know what? You know what? I don't. Because when we talk about pure. Yes.

Okay, so the problem is when we think pure and we think like scoring, the same person comes up, and if it don't look like that, we don't. If it don't look like how Michael Jordan made scoring look, easy, finesse and pretty, someone like, someone like Kauai, that choppy, you know, it just looks like, but when you think about pure scoring, it's like, yes. George Gervyn. George Gervyn. George Gervyn. George Gervyn was a tour's school. I didn't. I didn't look at it.

Joe Johnson. Joe Johnson. Joe's a poor. Paul George is up in it. Paul George. Paul Pierce. Paul Pierce and Paul George. Paul George.

Paul George. Bernard. Brennan Roy. Oh, he was like Kauai. He could go get to. No, he could go get you. No, Brandon Roy put that ball in the basket, but back then we didn't shoot three. So having it, like seeing what the rest of his game looked like.

Like somebody like Rip Hamilton was a pure score. He was a great three. point shooter, but he didn't shoot a three. He didn't handle the rock. He didn't handle. He wasn't going to take you off the dribble and go get the bucket. Be Roy for you. Young reality, maybe.

Young reality. But putting the top 15 list together is going to be what type of scoring you're like. But for sure, Janus shouldn't be in there. That's why. Yonis shouldn't be in there. Shack should be in there. At will? If you sag on Janus, if you sag on Yonis, you got to shoot that.

You got a decent. That's like, you got to put Westbrook in it. Hey, hey, Day Lillard. You're all put Westbrook and you put Janus. If you're going to put Janus, then Westbrook will be better. But you're going by some formula that they created. Yeah. It was three-tier criteria, like I said, $1.75 possessions.

Yeah, it has nothing to do. Relative true shooting percentage. Yeah, like, D-Way. Like, D-Way, I thought D-Way was a pure score. He can go out there and get you a fucking bucket. So y'all don't agree with Steph being top on this one. He did the D-Way. I was like, I'm not, I'm not going to get into.

of the list because their list... I would say Steph isn't... No, what I'm saying is... Their list has to do with the criteria they used. But for pure scoring... From your guys' advantage point. Michael Jordan, Colby, and Katie, those are going to be the top three in every Hooper

and however you put it, that's on how you like your scoring to be. But those are the top three pure scores. And then you're going to have... For Little Garts... Team Mellow... You're going to have people... That's going to go for Mello. You're going to have, who else in there?

The Kyrie fan. With the ability of scoring that ball and put it in, Tyree. You got to have A-I before all of them because he averaged the 27 a game. Like in the era that he was in, six-foot. But the difference is, score that bitch. When it comes to Kyrie, and we say we're going to break down all of the basketball.

Kyrie ability. he will post you up. He's going to ice you. He's going to have left hand floaters right there and floater. Like he has really the overall bag of all hoop hoop. Man. Because no matter where you put him on a floor, post up mid-right, he knew how to do all of it.

But that's a difference though. So he's technically the most complete score. But his volume, his volume of scoring. He just, no, no, no. It never hit that. He never, but he never was that selfish to take 25 to 30 shots. Right. He has the capability as a skill set.

Like, he's the most skilled small guard that can go do it. But I'll say AI because AI didn't have to use all of that to go get his bucket. He was just, go get his bucket. He just, I'm going to go get his bucket. I think it'd be three or two. Would you please? So he'll go Kyrie Steph, AI, or Kyrie AI, Steph? You said what?

I'm saying AI because AI utilized his mid-range more, and he wasn't shooting as many threes. And Steph can shoot three and Steph to do what AI do and he do what Steph do. I'm going to Kyrie stuff. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's my name. That's my name. Who Steph and AI?

Cause he could shoot the three crazy. I like, I mean there's just, I'm going to Kari. I handle AI. No, for sure. Yeah, like I'm going to Kari one. Like if somebody, if somebody wanted to debate Kairi as top three,

you can't. Yeah, for sure. The only thing that knocks Karee, the only thing that knocks Karee is because he didn't average 30 and try to average 30. But when you say what can't he do, he can do everything. You can't, you're not going to be able to knock him.

Right, right? Jordan, you can say, oh, he didn't shoot threes, but the three point line was a lot longer and that wasn't there game then. So you can knock him there. But when you say post up, fade away this, you can't knock Kyrie on that. Dribbling, you can't knock Kyrie on it.

Create his own. You can't knock on three. You can't, midi. That's what I'm saying. Lay up package. You can't knock him from none of them because he had it all. Like it's like he's like he prefer. He just didn't say I want to go out there and score 30 I remember when he got traded to Boston

I said oh this is he's about to lead the league in scoring He wanted to win he got hurt He got hurt so he never really had a chance to he was but he brought and then Look like like even in my era I was I used like somebody with Kyrie in my era I was like man If Mashburn if mashburn took fucking 25 shots who's stopping him Who's stopping him? Who's stopping him? Who's stopping him? Who's stopping him? Right, who's stopping mashburn? What do you think about this, though?

AI, if he's shooting more threes in that era, it would have looked different. But you running the plays, the two-out, all the plays they was running for AI, you're not going under on the three-pointer with AI. He's thinking, you can't stop me from doing what I'm doing. I'm going to go get 30 a game doing what I'm doing. And your adjustments, I'm going to adjust too.

But Steph never had that problem. Like, you got to guard me here first. You ain't got to stop me from getting to the rim. That was AI. Stop me from getting to the rim. I'm adjust my game. Death is, hey, man, you got to pick me up from half. And now you're giving me the legups.

Now you're giving me everything I need. Same with Kyrie. Cairo, shaking your ass, baking your ass, and going to wherever he won't. But the volume was never there for Kyrie. Is there a gross in here? No. Your scores? No, pure.

It there grows in there. I think he developed his shooting ability later after the injury. but D. Rose as far as like he reminds me like Steve Francis. He reminds me as Steve Francis. They're such pure score. I mean, there's like BJ. They can pass the ball so well.

But the fact that their ability speed jumping is like and they get into the lane and I'm like, all right. So you're forcing those guys to score because once they get to where they're getting to is like, oh, no one's here.

high school college, right? It's zones. So they don't know this ability of just come off and everybody's playing man and I just beat my guy in the big and I see the lane wide open. I might as well just dunk this ball. So now you're turning a John Wall

and a Derek Rose type into more of a score than the passer when they started off as I can pass the hell out of this ball. He put LeBron on that bitch. And the same thing. So those... Younger LeBron was a pure... But that's what he scored.

He could score that. Now, think about if Zones always made you sit here and do this and now you get into the league and you come off the pick and roll and everything just opens up. LeBron's like, well, all right. Yeah, fast for what? I don't need it by saying. I don't think LeBron was a. You know who else is a Pierce for? When you think of that, Cavs versus Boss thing all that?

If you take, because, right, ISOs, post-ups, all of that matters. Yes. Fadeaways and all this is not. He took over at. Yeah, no, you're going to take over a game, but we're talking about the ability. Like, you're a pure score. Like, you didn't score more than me, right? But you were a better score than me.

Yeah, I get you. Like, Michael Beez-y. Right, you know what I mean? You're a better score than me. Like, your ability to create things I just can't even think of. Yeah. Like, I just have-you-go to certain spots on the floor and it wouldn't be a problem. Yeah.

Turn around and. But if you watch the game long enough, you can see like, oh, that motherfucker, the score right there. Like, you know what I mean? Like, you sit there and be like, yo, dude got buckets in. body. You might not have the selfishness in your body, but the ability to just create shots, you'd be like, yo, bro, dangerous. That's a different thing, yeah. So we got some breaking news that we need to get to right now coming out of the Sixers camp, Joelle and Bede.

Diagnose with an appendicitis will undergo surgery this afternoon in Houston. What? Appendicitis, appendix. I think he gets to get his appendix removed. Is that from the bleak thing. He was feeling some illness discomfort this morning. They wanted him to get evaluated. So six years have three games left. Obviously, tightly contested Eastern Conference Playoff Race. Currently in the eighth spot.

They have three games remaining in Houston. I think Pacers and Bucks. Not sure how long he'll miss for context. And this is obviously not apples or apples, but O. Janinobe had an emergency appendectomy back on April 12, 2019, right before the playoff started. His original timetable was might return after the first round. He ended up missing in the entirety.

of the Raptor 2019 title run. He was also done with a concussion and other things going on. So like I said, if they won? I can't say it's the apples to apples. What causes that? He doesn't look like Dr. Phil?

He holds his pee. He don't go to the bathroom as much, that's what? No, we'll call it. He holds his pee. No, he hold his pee. He holds his pee. Can we see what that? No, that's like a little kid.

What causes his appendix? I just Google, what causes the appendix of birds? when it becomes blocked appendicitis. I'm telling you. He holds his feet. He'd be scared to say you got to use the bathroom.

Swing. This is not the time of... No, my brother. My son. That is a thing. My son, I had to take him to the doctor. He said, he said,

he said, my... This hurt dad. Which one? Nice. Because he's always playing this shit. He don't just want. Like, niggas. Go use the bathroom. Stop holding it. He holds his feet.

That's what they don't. Yeah. This is coming from Google. Don't take my word for it. Primarily caused by an obstruction or blockage in the appendix lining, which leads to infection, swelling, and inflammation. Blockage often caused by hardened stool. I mean, I think hardened doo-doo.

The non-medical turn. Swollen lymph glands, tumors are parasites. Oh. He have an immune system. These are the factors that lead to an eye. We know what it is. He dehydrated. All of painkillers.

He can't Google. All on painkillers. No, no, no, they have facts. That's true. All the pain can... Him trying to keep these playing and taking those peels for that need. It's blocking his stomach up. You got to take an animal or something.

Nah, man, hey, listen, do you some taco bill? Get you $4.50 is $450 alloy. Go to your nutritioners. It's 4.50 alloy to give you these pills. It's like it actually helps you really... Nah, bad ass, though. Because he's been injured for so long thing. Taking that...

You get stuck on those pain pills. using the bathroom. Like every time I have, so I remember when I got my knee surgery and they're telling them, oh, take the two pills a day and I couldn't use the bathroom for nothing. And I didn't know it was the pills. So when I get surgery now, I don't take them. I don't know. I'm good. I'm going to

deal with the pain because this pain you're sitting there trying to do this. For real. Ain't nothing like that. You don't know how to fix you. You can't go in there. You're all blocked up. That shit. Hurt. Still eating? Still eating. Back here too.

Food not going nowhere. Food. It's not going anywhere. Kidney shot? That's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, yeah. All trying to play. That's what's, that's messing his body of just trying to get out there. Just trying to play, bro.

Don't kill yourself, man. But yeah, so Penicites will undergo surgery today in Houston. Like I said, six years up, three games remaining. I think that Rockets, then our Pacers, are back to back, and then I think bucks, let me double check. Man, he's going to have surgery, man. We don't care about this, who they're playing. They got three games together. We know he ain't going to play in Detroit.

playing Detroit? I guess Detroit. Okay, now what is the rest on that? What? What is the timetable? We're trying to figure out the timetable. No, no. What does Google say? What?

It has regular humans. They don't have MB. It might. It might. Hold on. Pretty sure other players haven't had it before. I think it is. Half his face was called.

Prompt surgery using insurance recovery within one, two, three weeks. He meant to- So he potentially could be back. potentially could be back. I mean, he don't need that. What side is it? But if they're now pushing the playing, they'll obviously be playing. That's him be, man.

He'll be back, man. He had half his face is falling apart, man. Think about that. You down there dying. He had to glue one of his eyes down. I mean, this man has done played through some stuff. Like stuff I even heard of. That's a take, though.

Bell's pauses, Bill. That was the weird shit. He knew what's going on. He said, I can't move half my left side. He said, he said, I couldn't move half my left side. I don't need this whole left side. Shit. Listen, you know how talented you got to feed, dog, to do what he's done and half his body

don't work. Man, he out there getting 30 and half the boo-woo. No, that's right. He got a boo-boo getting 30, bro. In the game, his stomach is full. Just start. Farting this shit? What?

Air, all, air coming out. Man, he didn't even get the nervous boobo. You know, like, most of the players, like, when the game getting ready to start, you start You're seeing players just running back. The nerve is got to get the nerves out. The nervous booboo. The nervous booboo is the medical turn. You have to count that in to the history of the game.

He's playing half. He's half man, half amazing for real. Have you ever played full? Like your body just. Yeah, not a good feeling. All that red bull, all the red bull and stuff I was taking before the game. It was getting out of you. Was evacuating.

Yeah, I read that red line. I was drinking that coffee. You drink coffee when you play? Before the game, yeah. You didn't know five-hour energy? Just make you move. Yeah, I hate that. Did you have catapult?

You could drink five-hour. It was like an Ottawa one, cataport? Back then? I didn't know if you could drink. Five hours. Something called catapolk and red line. Did it really live? Did it really live?

Two avioles. Two tautiles. Two avinals, two avills and red. I didn't start doing an av-vils. You got a basketball. Right? I didn't start doing avioles. Ten to 90s and ten to 90s.

Oh, yeah. I didn't do advils and ten down. I didn't do ad-out of there. So what we do know, we don't know the cause, but we do know drool and beat appendicitis undergoing. No, we know the call. We know the call. You are not sure.

I guarantee you. The Viking, what was it? All the ball in time and all, whatever, whatever was, whatever you don't want to feel painful to play in a game. Whatever that medicine was, that's what caused it. For sure. You really can't move up after that fucking. The proxin and all that shit. You take, yeah, you take, you going days.

You take three days of, you take, once you, once that hits your body, boop-boop. Stopped. You better start. No boo-boo. All right. I had to take it. What's the thing? I had to take it in them at once, man.

That's a what? Not a conversation. We were particularly interested in having today. No, Eric Waters. Oh, would you? Well, yeah, I'm taking them pills, man. The first time I got a knee surgeon, I'm just dropping. I didn't want to feel nobody.

You got to come on? No, I had to go in there, man, man. You got to push the medicine up me. Get it up out of me. Get it up out of me. Yeah. My stomach hurt. Sorry about that.

You go three days, oh, damn. You go, real, three days I ain't take nothing, man. But die. I told you back then they was feeding us medicine to get us in the course. Okay? No boo-boo for three days. Yeah, that's crazy. That is tough.

And you feel it. Fartin's just stinking. Just air. Just hot ass. Let's keep this thing. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Just air. That's from something different.

Okay, brother? We don't know nothing about that. about that. All right. It's just that loose where you just air? Who? Keep that to yourself, bro. Keep that to you.

See, just out. Just whistling, huh? You was that. That was that foist yourself. That was back there. That was that. Whistle while you were. I thought you had a button, too.

He got the ease. I thought you had to whistle him. Wow. See how you were doing against me? That's crazy. Let's go head and farting. Yeah. Yeah.

Hey, oh, Nicky? Nicholas? What kind of flavor is that? What kind of flavor is that? Like you don't bust me out. Oh, I want to use it. You make it look like it's cool. No, I want to use it.

I'm family watching. Can you please stop, man? You're on chop, man. You'll be on episode. Stop. All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. So we talked about Yokic and Wemby earlier this week before the conversation shifted to a spirit of debate on two-way players.

Nuggets and Spurs are set to face off in the final game of the regular season this Sunday. Wimby still needs to play one more game to reach a 65 game minimum. Nuggets need one more win or a Lakers and Rockets loss to secure the three seed. So there's a possibility that both players will play in that final game. Yokhs and Wembe have played against each other seven times in their careers. Let's take a look at the head-to-head. We didn't really get to dive deep on this earlier this week. Joker getting the best of the matchup so far.

In the seven games they play, Yokic averaged 37 points on 55% shooting, 11 rebounds, 9 assists, 2.5 stocks. and has a 5 and 2 record against Wimby. Wimby, obviously, Young, only year three, has been honed his own against a three-time MVP, average 26 points, 15 rebounds, four assists, four blocks, and nearly two steals. So it's looking like this is shaping up to be a very, very heated,

heated head-to-head battle for many years to come. But I wanted to ask you guys, do you consider Yokic versus Wembe to be a rivalry yet, or do they need to see each other in the playoffs first? I think they need to see each other in the playoffs first. I don't think this is a rivalry yet. I mean, he's up 5-2. He's averaging almost 40 against him.

You know, and it's only been seven games. So, you know, we're going to need to have 15 or 20 more games to really see those stats for real. But right now it's not even, it's just, you know, he just, it's a baby. It's a baby to him right now. So there ain't no rivalry. Burping babies. How many rivalries can you have? I thought he was rivalry with, okay.

see too like she it was a chat win that that goes back to their younger days now when we're talking about rivalry usually kind of starts like college right get into the NBA it's usually your

peers that's in your your draft class or the top two spots so the rivalry for Yokic was in B'd that was in B. That was was the rival between those two.

That's what it should have been. I mean, you know, yeah. So Winby is emerging as a challenge for, you know, he's like replacing Embed, but he's still the young puppy trying to try to figure his game out before. But so when you're looking at these stats, right, I don't, you average in 37 against someone who's trying to figure out his game. just like when you score 70. Yeah, you're going to take,

you're going to take advantage of a guy who don't fully know the game yet, right? This is still learning and understanding, you know, what I'm doing. So I'm shooting 42% against you, but you're not a defensive player. That's only because I'm taking bad shots and I want to shoot threes

because this is my skill. Once Wimby understands who he is, he's going to be dominating while Yoke is just falling down. Right? So his real rivalry has to be, it has to be Chet, but Chet is not number one star, right? So Wimby's looking at him like, yeah, I'm not paying attention to a dude who's not the best planet's team yet. So, so, but like, it'd be, it'd be, but it has to be, it has to be within that group of where he's at.

And he doesn't have really. Are Yonby in the MVP discussion? I think we've had that conversation. No, Wimby is in the end. Okay. Just, yeah. What are you saying? I said, are Yokeets and Wimby both in the MVP?

the MVP discussion for this season? Yeah, but I'm not going to take this three MVP vet, and I got this pub, and I'm going to say they're a rival. Because if we ask, if you... I'm saying the building tour. If you ask Yokic is his rival, he might smack you. He might smack you. It's like, you're not going to, I'm a three-time MVP.

Like, don't play with me like that, right? Don't play with it. But, you know what I mean? But as a big man and these guys are trying to battle, if they go into the playoffs, this is their matchup. So if they're going to the playoffs, go down to a game seven and stuff like that, There's going to be featured next year between them two.

And those games start being battles. It can be coming. It can be coming up. It's not being up to feel that way. But even Wimby in year three, we're talking about Yokoage's numbers. It's really impressive. But a year three, Wembe, averageed 26 and 15 against a three-time MVP, in my opinion. We've got to see.

Also very impressive. You can't start the rivalry with the numbers. You have to start the rivalry with how they're playing against each other and how we're watching it. Because the numbers are going to favor Joker. just because of his experience. Exactly. Like Gil's saying, the more time he gets,

the more he's going to change that dynamic. He's averaging, what, 15 boards, four blocks? So is Wimby a sinner? What's funny is it? It's hard to be a rival if Yogi's don't even guard him. Is Wimby a center? Is he considered a center? Who does Wimby guard him?

So he'll be. Oh, Yulgich. So when it's all centered down, will Wimby be one of the best centers ever? I mean, we don't know. We got to see. We know Yoke's his time We know his we know what lane he's in

He's in that lane Right You're talking about what he's doing year three He can he can I mean this motherfucker can come out here and have 70 night I didn't know what position to put him man that's well He can be a center Okay

He said he's a powerful He's seven five right But you've got paid E is seven feet And he's small four So make me a small four Make me a small four I can't wait to that list That's gonna be a crazy list then

What you want? With me, any added to it? Because the Shacks and... Well, Yokers... Yeah, Yolkutche is not fine. So, and he might fucking... Well, you're talking about as far as stats. I'm talking about when it's all sitting done.

I'll say, I can't wait to see that. Like, as far as stats, though, right? Yes. Everything, yes. Because right now, he... David Robertson and Tim Duncan are the Spurs niggas that he's already, like, trying to get past them. I'm talking about when it's all said and done.

I think he'd be past David Robertson. As an individual stats, as an individual player, yes, he can surpass him because he has, he's younger coming into the league, right? He accomplished more fast. Yeah. So, like, I think this would be David Robinson's rookie season, right? He came in with 21, 24, I believe. Yeah, so, like, so all these stats is just free money for him. The nigga was in the Navy.

Right, so. The Navy to get, right? So he can, yeah, so he's going to click. Just say he has 10 healthy years, 10 healthy years. He can clear out all of. That's what I'm saying. He can, listen, to be honest, when you think about the Spurs organization, he can own them every category.

Rebounding, blocks, scoring, threes made, right? You got threes made. He's going to be that guy for that. So he can sit there and own all the records. Well, it would have to be like playoff records now. That's true. The team that takes him over a playoff point. Like, that's Tim Duncan's bread and butter what he did in the playoffs.

So Wimble being his fifth season when he's 24, David Robinson, like you just mentioned, a rookie, 24 years did the two years. That's crazy. The Naval Service, the Admiral. He already been probably fast as shit. So that brings me to my next question. I think it's different. Everybody, you know, talked about the Embed Yokic.

Obviously, they were never going to see each other in the playoffs as long as Embedit was playing with the Sixers. Oh, yeah, because Easton. I'm just saying, but now you've got, and obviously learning each other twice a year, you've got, it seems like Wimby Yolkish can fast track, but with the Nuggets, likely to secure the three-seed, Spurs locking up the two-seed. These two appear on a collision course to meet in the second round of the playoffs.

That brings me my next question. We saw they had a great game recently with the overtime. Who are you taking in a seven-game series? The Nuggets or Spurs? It all depends on who they play in the first. many reasons I say that is who okay we know Yokic and Wimby are going to do all the heavy lifted

right we got that none of those two will be challenged at their position because they technically face each other so it's who am my role players being challenged by how much energy are they going to be exerting you know to get out at first round because yeah we might four old somebody

but let's say Castle has to guard somebody who averages, damn it 30. And he's just wasting energy. Yeah, so he has to guard, you know. Right now, it's shaping enough to be nuggets, timber wolves. And then, uh, it's... Nuggets, nuggets, and timber wolves. Yeah, that's a great...

And if spurs and either the sons, clippers, or potentially Blazers is based on who gets that eighth spot. Okay, so Spurs... So he says, so Spurs is playing who? Spurs. Spurs are either played the sons, Clippers, whoever. You know, amen.

All right. That's the only teams they can play. Or potentially the Blazers, the Blazers jump up to eight. Whoever wins that 7-8 game gets the 7. But they put them out the last two years. All right, so Spurs, I mean, besides Devin Booker, they're not going to waste a lot of energy

from the role players that they need. Unless they play the club. Dylan Brooks out there, though, you know, he's going to come in high. Yeah, but you're still not wasting energy. Like, as long as Fox, as long as Fox Castle, as long as those guys are not. expending that energy where they're too tired to do heavy lifting in that next round, right? If one is just, okay, you just guard Booker and I can just, then Spurs could be Denver, right?

Because if Murray, that would be stupid if Murray's guarding Ant Man, right? And he has to deal with Edman and he's getting his ass burnt out. I hate him. Spurs simply because the last game they play, I think that was the highlight of what that series is going to be between them too. As far as the coaching matchup, how they coached that game, they did a lot of leaving Brown open in the corner. He hit a lot of threes that game,

and there was a bunch of rotation shots where Joker found him based on them running at him, and they was playing solid defense up until like the last three seconds of the shot clock, five seconds maybe. And there was a lot of times that you could see that San Antonio was scheming for the Nuggets. and trying to see what Gordon was going to do, who was going to hit shots on the weak side,

and they actually left Brown open a lot. So if they're going to keep that same game playing, it's going to be based on Brown actually showing up and doing his thing. They took Jamar Murray out of the pick and roll where he was doing his thing and hitting those little shots. They actually clogged the lane on that. They had guys on elbows and nails where they made him kick and kick. So a lot of those things came down to throwing it in the Joker,

off him. And I think that if they play that way, they got a chance to take it seven. No. If they change up the difference of how they play that game specifically and they do anything else, it could go Denver's way just because they know what they're doing if you're not making it tough on the pick and roll and making another player play. If you allow them two guys to just play the pick and roll and do what they do, you get blown out. I think, I don't think the spur, depending on, no matter who they got out there playing them guys. It's just the way that they play. But I think the way that they play that game,

if De Aaron Fox don't fucking, shit, he fucking tricked off the fucking layup to fucking tie the game up. He was supposed to make the game. Nah, when he shorted, he shorted the little shot. And I think a lot of different plays. That's why I don't feel like the Spurr's going to win.

Because Demmer, that showed it. Like they showed how to win. And the hard times, when the game's on the line, that youngness come out. And I felt like even Wimby in overtime, he didn't step up. He didn't shoot the ball. Didn't go towards the ball that much. He did.

They went to him every time. He got the ball. It was just that he had Aaron Gordon on him. Aaron Gordon knew how to play him. And when playoffs, new shots matter. When you miss a shot as a young person, that's like, God damn. No, you go to Deerrin Fox. That's who you got to go to.

But he still ain't been to no, he ain't been to the second round. But he's just a clutch performer He is He can make He's the one that got the experience He's thinking he got a pass to Wimby No that's what needs to change That's what I'm saying

Yeah Everybody feel like they got a Huh That's why you test it out That's why you test it out That's why you test it. They've been there before They're comfortable

When you see a guy Looking like that Making every shot And you missing yours Your head goes down The Young player You start thinking all Man

This shit is over with We ain't got a chance But he ain't like everybody else. He's not the type of guy that's going to be like, oh, nah, he, he gives me the ball again. And then I think he will defer if he ain't got it going. He really like, hey, Deeran, if you feel like you got it, just go. Take over. Let's do it.

As long as we winning, that's all it matter. Fox, he got to get that program. It's going to be a really, like, if they meet up in the championship, it will be a very, very. A second round? I mean, I mean, in the second round, because. Because outside of your, like, the guys are going to be left open, right? If you're trying to scheme, really aren't great three-point shooters. So you're going to rely on them to shoot threes at a very high level.

Right. So if those guys are making threes, it can change how the defense is. If they're missing threes, it's going to be a problem. Right? So I'm looking at they took 45 threes. It was 15 for 45. If Wimby don't, and this was rare that Wimby got fouled and went to the free throw line.

If Wimby don't shoot 16 free throws. Yeah. You know what I mean? If he was sitting there just, I'm going to just keep checking threes with the rest of my team, they don't stay in that game. But now he's getting people in foul trouble. Like he's putting pressure on the-

And he did that early in the first half too. He had like eight free throws in the first half. He was getting to the line. Like Champany, Wimby shooting threes. Okay, so like Fox, okay, you can shoot threes. You didn't make none in that game. Harrison Barnes. Vasell, right?

You're a three-point shooter. Now, Cassel. Arkansas and Winby in the clutch, we're obviously left much to be desired, but you would think that that's not going to. Like Brown, 11-3s. He shot 11. Cam Johnson. He shot a couple.

He was four for eight. But, you know, the ones that are really like, you're talking about Peyton Watson, if he's not, oh, he's not. Like, you're going to allow Gordon to shoot threes. Like, if you, if you hit it, He can hit it. He can hit him. If you hit him, we'll guard you, but we're going to, we're going to, we're going to let you shoot them.

Close out late. So they're going to allow, they're going to let Gordon shoot threes before they, they guard them, and they're going to let Brown shoot threes. And they was pre-rotated. If you make them cool, we'll adjust. But y'all going to see if y'all hot this series in game by game. For sure. But we're not going to let Murray or not let Murray and Yokic get open shots to shoot threes

because we know what happens if they are on fire. But if Christian, if you hit three threes and you're going to take shots away from, you know, your two stars, cool. Yeah. Keep it. Keep going to do. Hmm? Cam over there. Yeah.

But he's a three-point shooter, but, you know, you got three, you're going to always have three and you can have three. Oh, no, Tim Hardaway. Tim Hardaway. Jim Hardaway, June. But, yeah, you're going to them three. That's what they was doing. They was leaving Tim in the game with Cam Johnson. Okay, now you're changing.

Now it changed. Then you got Aaron in the dunker. Yeah. That's what made it tough. That made it real tough. So we asked the chat. Who wins in a seven-game series between the Nuggets and Spurs? If it happens, 62% of the chat thinks the Nuggets.

It's six, probably. Nuggets in six, should be, so. I think Yon is going to tell you. I can tell you, I mean, if Spurs don't do nothing, nothing too serious this summer, they're going to be favored next year. By far. Spurs don't do nothing too soon. I like the Spurs next year.

Meaning if they don't, if they don't, if they don't, like, I don't care how you lose in the playoffs. Let's say you get four-old. Don't do nothing drastic. Yeah, yeah, please don't. Because all they need is more time, meaning that means castles going to go into the summer. He knows how year two went. He's going to develop the jumper in the midi, right? Same thing with Harper.

It's his first year. He's going to understand how to get better, right? Wimby's going to understand how to get better, right? Fox is like the perfect guy that you need right now. Yeah. And if my two six six jumping guards find their jumper, find their rhythm, we can see what we can get for you. Right now we need you because they still haven't developed yet. So what happens to Fox is he can be the reason they win the championship or he can be the reason they got a piece to win a championship.

Right? He's going to be like if he can get one this year, cool, he did it for us. But he is going to be that piece that you're going to move him. I don't know how long I keep Harper in. Right, because he's actually breaking out in front of us. Yes, and Fox is like. Are he breaking out like that over Fox? Because he's not going to say, I'm not going to say, I'm not going to say over.

That's why I'm not going to win. Because Fox sees this shit. He got Harper. He got potential, bro. Like, he really, he got bounced. He got everything. He can. really go.

He can really go. He can really go. But Fox is still so good and you're like, well, if you can get two bigs for Fox? I was telling you all this earlier about getting rid of Fox. I thought I was crazy. He rid of Fox is sick. I thought it was crazy when I said that. A All-Star.

Dylan Harper is 12 and 4 and 23 minutes per game. He's so good. Rookie year, right? Rookie year? Yeah. But the Spurs have bread deal next season too. I know. get a drive, but they can...

They can go get somebody. That's what... But you can get somebody for Fox. I think it's going to get one more year. Let Dylan get another year. And you're going to sit back. And then...

It's going to be a setback. Mm-hmm. I mean, they're... It's going to be a setback. What's a setback? You can go get another... You can go get somebody for Fox. You're going to have to...

Hope he get better. Who? Harper. He is. He is. It was like the wizard. The Wizards. The Wizards...

The bullets. The bullets had a problem. The bullets had a problem, and they didn't know who to keep. they had on one team they had Rashid was a Rashid Wallace Ben Wallace

Chris Weber Chris Weber and Joanne Howard Right so that That was You don't even know the names Were you even mentioning No you know

But that's the team that they had You got You basically got Four Hall of Famers Yeah On the same team But you can only play two at a time So it's like

Who do you get rid of? But they all play on the same They all play the same position. It's like, who do you get rid of? They got Harrison Barnes coming off the books. I was thinking that, too. I was thinking Harrison is going to be. They've got somewhere like the 20-30 million.

What about Kelton? Caled is still there for one more season. But you got to remember also their shooting guards and their three is the same size as their points. Right. So Vassel and, you know, they're six-four. They're smaller. They've been playing Castle at the point. They've been playing him at the point.

So they're really looking at Dillon and Castle as being one-two. One-two. That's my one-two. I've been telling you how D. Fox was going to be like, everybody thought I was tripping. He was averaging 20 next to Steph. Once he left, like, once you become your own guy, like, you don't have to worry about. You got to deal with that, too.

What? The pressure with Harper move up to that starting job at the point guard position. Pressure from who? Guard and Shane and all. The main God. Right now he's coming off. Right now. They got cast on everybody.

No, but that's what I'm saying. No, no, see, the thing is, Harper's there to get up. No, that's what I'm saying? This is the difference. Like, they are both 6-6 with damn near 40-inch verticals. They can create the own shot.

They can get downhill. They're strong. They're physical. They play defense. Right? So they are like an upgrade to my 6-4 guy. But my 6-4 guy is an all-star. But my 6-4 guy is an all-star who can shoot the ball.

as fast as shit, right? So he has different attributes. We upgraded him. They are an upgrade hybrid of what Fox is. Physically, right? So when we're talking about... When we're talking about Garden, Shea. No, no, no. When we're saying Garden, Shea and Luca and all of them, I don't have to worry about

none of those two because they're strong enough and big enough to guard them. So would you put Fox on Shea and Luca to stop them? So who they put on them out? Bro. Would you put Deer and Fox on Luca to stop him. I'm putting Castle on him.

Right. So that's what he's saying. He's saying the upgrade body frame and all the... If Harper Dream was that, I would put Castle on him. I'm not putting Harper on him. You're not putting Box on him. I'm not putting Harper on him. Why not, though?

Harper 6.6. He did the same. No, but that's what I'm saying. It's just like... You're just saying the match-up. How the match-ups is, Deer & Fox is a thin. It's almost like, when you're talking about a 2K player,

you will put Deer and Fox in the game because his attributes and his achievements, but you're going to look at the skill set of Harper and Castle and say, nah, I need him to guard Shay, I need him to guard Luca, and we're going to play off that. Fox will bring you in and get buckets because that's what you do, but you're not going to go on the other end and do what they do. It's just like, what are you winning to lose?

You're losing a pure outside shooter, someone who's fast as hell, who can just get downhill as fast as possible, right? One of the fastest in the league at doing it, you're going to lose that in real shooting from the outside, and you're gaining more height in a stronger attack at the basket. It's not, what I'm saying is, it's not a good move,

but it's going to be a move. Like, it's like, do I want Harper and Castle or do I want Fox in Castle? And it's no way to be hearing of Deerrin Fox, but you're paying Deerrrn Fox $55 million a year. You got Dylan Harper, but you don't have to break bread with. But it's not, it's not that,

It's not the money. But it's not the money part, but I can take that money now and get it. It's one of these. It's Houston. No, not Houston, but no, no, Houston did it with John Wall. John Wall, damn it, their average, look at that last year. What was the average of 19 and 10, 21 and 10? And it's like, yeah, you can keep doing this, but I got two guys that I need to, I need them to play 30-something.

John Wollah off of injuries. No, what I'm saying is, but I need, you're still doing you, but I need them to play. As long as you're on a team, they can't develop the way I want them. Well, it seems like this season, two season next year. So it's like, do I keep Fox in because I got to play him, or do I let Harper come in and hurry up and get those minutes? At a certain point, he's going to make it undeniable. I'm saying 12 points per game in 23 minutes from 51%.

It's like how long do I keep it? No, how long do I keep him at 21 minutes is what we're saying? Because he's coming off the bench. He's giving us firepower, 12 points off the business for a rookie in 20-something minutes. Well, Vassel could be, not to say the I-Man out, but he could also be moved around. Yes. No, no, I remember we, no, no, Vassel, like, he's going to, he's going to be one of those. But he's got a great contract.

I remember we traded for Quran, right? Karan was supposed to be our sixth man, right? He was coming off, he was coming off the beach, he's supposed to be a sixth man. It was only like five to ten games, and we sitting there looking at coach like, nah. Yeah, we need a lot. Like, you know, he's moving different. We had Jarvis Hayes.

Jarvis Hayes was the three. Yeah. Can jump and shoot. Jarvis Hayes. But I don't know if, I don't know if Karan being there kind of like got up, but it was like one of those things where you can see Karan came in with a whole different attitude. Right. He's coming in.

He's playing bully ball. He's getting downhill. And it was like, I don't know how long you're going to keep him on the bench. Right. He's a starter. Shit. He's the third best player on the team at this moment in time. And then he started starting, and we was just a whole different team.

Same thing with Andre Blotch. Andre Blotch. There was a moment in time where we're like, yo. Yeah, he pretty good. Like, we over here thinking that there was one of those decisions and was like, yo, do we get rid of Antoine Jamison? Because he's making this much in put in Andre Blotch and have Andre at the four, Brennan, or do we play small ball and have Andre at the five in what's an end?

That was a decision. Because and Andre Blotch was still in it But the way he was playing and moving in practice We're like, yo, he is for man Yeah Because if and this is what the lineup was supposed to be This is what when we're having that discussion Me and the coaching staff

Before the season The idea was me at the 1 Karan at the 2 Antoine at the 3 Andre Blatch at the 4 Brennan at the 5 That was supposed to be Our team

We was going into the season moving with. And Andre Blotches, you know what I mean? You keep seeing the potential. Like, yo, take the shit serious. Don't get out the club. Let's go ahead and make this happen. And then training camp coming out of shape

and it's like, all right, we're going to roll this goddamn lineup. Now we're going to go smaller. Now we're going to go smaller. We're going to be smaller. We want to. So, you know, you do have plans on a lineup that you like. And then training camp changes. But it's like with Harper is like, like,

man, you can see. problems to have if you're the San Antonio San Antonio's the sale thing. What? No it's not a good problem. It's not a good problem. These are good problems. It's not a good problem.

You have a loaded roster with pieces of you need to strengthen that roster and a generational talent and victim would be. You know what I say is not a good problem? Because your ass going to have to make a decision. Are you smart enough to do it? That's the difference. Somebody going to get lost.

Are you smart enough to do it? But you don't have to do that until the end of next season, I would argue. No. You can roll with this crew next season. No, I can't. Ah, because you're talking about value. I can't roll with this.

You know why? How valuable are the pieces as hot as they are. If we win this year as hot as we're hot, right? So now you can potentially move Fox. You could potentially move Vassel and Johnson. You can move all because we've accomplished something and now we go into the direction of Castle, Wimby, Harper. But you got a guy in Kelton Johnson.

We bought in from being a starter average of 20 to now. Oh, no, I'm sure. It's business. But I'm not tripping. I'm not serious off trying to get out of it. Who winning championship in me? No, you got to know history, right? The bosses and Celtics?

Who do they move? Prozingis? Drew Holiday? After they lost. Yeah, they lost. But then what I'm saying is this. All right, we have Eddie Jones, right? Eddie Jones is all-star.

We have Kobe. He looks different. Right? Got to make a decision. He looks different, and we're saying like this, we can't keep him off the bit. Like, he's moving to the point where he's a starter. He's not as good as Eddie right now.

But if we gave him Eddie's time, he will surpass where Eddie is right now. He just needs the time, but Eddie's still playing like an All-Star. So what happens is you sit in there and say, all right, hold on. As long as we keep him on a bench, there's still a problem because everyone's clearly seeing his talent. He's not as quite, but if we, 20 games into the season, him playing 30-something minutes, he clearly is going to be a lot better. That was the decision that the Lakers had to make. Because of that.

Right? Sometimes you have a talent that comes in, and they're moving to the point where they're making you make a decision faster than you want to. That happened with the Lakers. Like, remember, the year Kobe made the all-star game? Pazingis.

The year... No, the year Kobe made the all-star game. Pazzynski. No, the year Kobe made the all-star game. Remember, what's the name was an all-star? Eddie Jones made the all-star game. He's a real all-star. So my shooting guard,

who's coming off the bench, who's an eighth man, making it too by fan favorite. But, Eddie Jones. And Fox is different. Huh? No, no, what I'm saying? No, shit, man, stop. Eddie Jones and Fox? They said Eddie Jones is an all-star.

Eddie Jones is an all-like-I-M-A-Jones. He has his own team like Fox too? With Nick Van, Venn's a jacket on him? Yeah, his own team like Fox. No, no, no, no, no, NBA like Fox. Box went by himself, he was over there with some bonus. No, but what I'm saying is, what I'm saying is, it's not at that caliber where we're saying that you have this talent that

is a talent, right? But we have this piece that's not here yet, but if we upgrade it, will he surpass by next year? And the answer is, yes, you might have to do it. They took a chance on that. Like with you. When you came in,

the idea was if you started looking decent in the first 20 games, they were going to start you in front of Deshaun. And Deshaun was just going to be a six man. That's how that was going to work. That happens, but sometimes it happens like Clay and Prisinski. Eddie Jones, there were too. No, but that's his, like.

He was young. Eddie Jones when that's. No, think about how old was that he was that? He was in his third season. I think when they drafted coach. Eddie Jones was his third season. He was the all-star. He was supposed to be like, I wanted the max.

And it was like, yeah. Eddie Jones is crazy, bro. Hey, I fuck Eddie Jones. Like, that's what I said. It was one of those things. You have to make that decision. Same thing with a, Luca. Think about it.

It was Luca, it was Luca, it was supposed to be that dude. Dennis Smith was supposed to be that dude. was supposed to be that guy. And then Lucas coming in, he just looks different. And I was like, all right, Dennis, move to the two. We're going to put the ball in his hand.

Gordon Hayward and Jason Taylor, yeah. No, it was different. No. He started with what we called it. Utah. I know, but with Boston. You're talking about the decision they had to make in Boston with them two?

They were trying to put one at the four and tried to make it a small ball on the line. And then what happened? And then what happened? No, not Tatum. Brown was coming around. Yeah, Brown came off the bench. No, that was, no, Brian was coming out the bench first couple of years.

Yeah, Tatum came out the bench. But look, I want to ask you about a 65 game. So you got Ant Man, they're going to make it, Luca, Clay, Cade. Who else goes? So who take their spots? We're about to see. It's about to be some dudes who wasn't supposed to be. That's because you wasn't here there.

That's what I was. I've seen the list. It's a lot of people on that list. That's not going to make it? That don't look like they're going to make it unless they do that shit. Now you got to, so the people who are going to make it a bunch of people we never talked about really? Well, hold on. Well, hold on.

You still got Yokic, right? No, no, but we're saying like, Jalen Brown. Right, that's first, that's awful. No, so yeah, so they'll get moved. So basically, whoever was first team, how many first team players are not going to make it? So you got Luca. Okay. Yonis.

Yonis? No, no, he wasn't first to know. Like, in this last two weeks, who was guaranteed first team? But, I mean, you put Kate. Luca and Cade, right? So, Luca and Cade is out, which means Jalen Brown. There's not, I think, a lot. Yeah, Jalen Brown and who else would have been there?

Is it Brunton? They're saying. Well, SDA's in there for sure. They're saying? Jamal Murray. As first, over Brunson? Not first team. First team.

Oh, no. So you're moving up. So you move up Jalen Brown and probably Brunton as first team, right? And then second team will be, so. No, maybe. It'll be Donovan. Oh, Donovan. Oh, Donovan.

Oh, Donovan. So now, like, Kat, Kat. Dang. Guy, like that. Why is going to be second team. Kauai. Oh, Kauai could make first team or second team. So it would be Kauai.

Oh, Devin Booker? Remember guys, we haven't been talking. KD? I mean second to third. KD? No, AD. You can move in the third. KD?

KD. Second. 25. Low key, he could be second. Low key. He could be second team. This is going to be one of those times where it's going to be some borderline guy that's been a veteran

and they're just going to give it to him so they don't give it to somebody else that's going to activate. I think they should Jalen Johnson? Let them make it. From the Hawks? 13. Le Mello? Hey, Lamello might make it. Le Mello Ball could.

If they get into the Afe's, if they get into the Afe seed, if they get into the AFC, like if he just If he touches six-spot. Think about all those spots. No brown, no curry. They normally make it like a third team or something, so they ain't in that. These are just predictions. Ant-Man is out too, right?

Yeah, Ant-Man. First team, you got SGA, Yolkich, Jalen Brown, Wimby, but Luke is obviously not in the mix now. So he's gone. That would be, okay. So Jalen Johnson was projected to make second team. You got Maxie, Donovan Mitchell. Kauai, obviously Jalen Brunson.

Now you got Jalen Duran, Tounds. Towns and who else would have been? Shangoon. Okay. All this. After all this shit, say good, like, bitch, I'm me here. I told him. I told you all this is my shit.

Potentially, Jamal, I mean, I think he's... Now, now, now, now, now, here it is. Is he a free agent this year? Who? Jamal. Jamal Murray. Ooh. You will hate if he's an all-N-BA player this year or next year because he unlocked.

No, he's unlocked up until 28, 29. Okay, so you're good. Give it to him. Oh, Bucker. You're going to be in there now? Devin Booker? I mean, most like they'll just give it to... They'll just give it to old, older players who've made it that wouldn't have made it.

Giving the cats. Give it to people like that. Devin Booker, I have him to do it, 26. Yeah. He needs one more game to make the... Yeah, he could get in there. He wasn't going to make it at all, though. Really?

You don't hear about it? I don't hear about it. That's all I was ever thought he was down at the 26. Because he didn't make the All-Star team. The Suns were playing well. That's a good place for us to wrap up. Whoa, hold on. We're done?

Yeah. Wait, hold on. Hold on, Joe. Hold on, Joe. Hold on, Joe. Hold on a minute. Jesus. What you mean?

Wait, wait. Hold on, Joe. Hold on. I'm a Jehovah's Witness. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Oh, shit. Happy birthday.

Thank you. Dear Dostaya. How bless you all. You know what to say on this? Happy birthday to you. I don't want it to fall. If we can get the camera on it. Oh,

Happy birthday to the number one host tomorrow. I appreciate all y'all. You try to sneak that in here. I turn that hat back around. You didn't want that's the birthday hat. That means the birthday. This is a tough crowd. Oh, that tough crowd made you a happy birthday,

merely a host's birthday. This is a regular tough. Oh, I can't make a birthday. I'm here on your birthday. Yeah. I'm nearly your host birthday. Yeah. I'm nearly your host.

Happy birthday right there. Yeah. I bless everybody in the chat. Thank you to our crew for blessing me with this lovely cake and brewing colors. Shout out to the national champion. You saying with the basketball team. Wow. Okay.

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