Gil's Arena - Chris Paul SENT HOME By The Clippers STUNS Gil's Arena

Episode Date: December 3, 2025

Chris Paul SENT HOME By The Los Angeles Clippers STUNS Gil's Arena as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to the news that the Clippers sent their legendary point guard home for the season aft...er he reportedly fueded with head coach Ty Lue and the Clippers front office and debate if it was a dirty move by the team to sever ties with the best player in franchise history in the middle of his retirement tour. Next, they react to cryptic behavior from Giannis Antetokounmpo as the Milwaukee Bucks superstar scrubbed his social media accounts of a majority of his bucks related posts and debate if the Bucks should be concerned about the hapiness of the Greek Freak as trade rumors continue to swirl as he looks to move to a bigger market with championship aspirations. They then react to Dwyane Wade's take on the NBA Goat debate, telling fans that LeBron James was the best player he ever saw play while Michael Jordan was the greatest player he watched and highlight Cooper Flagg making big noise in the NBA after the Dallas Mavericks superstar became the youngest player in NBA History to have 10 assists in a game and score 35 points in back to back nights. They break down if Flagg is showing he has what it takes to be a generational superstar in the NBA before reacting to trade rumors surrounding Anthony Davis and debate if it's a good move for the Mavs to keep their big man on the roster. Finally, they react to the Boston Celtics big win over the New York Knicks and discuss how Jaylen Brown is performing like a true #1 option in the absence of Jayson Tatum before debating what a successful season looks like for the Celtics without their All-NBA Superstar. PLEASE give us a Like and Subscribe!! Today's Gil's Arena Crew : Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Kenyon Martin, Rashad McCants & Swaggy P Gil's Arena premieres every Wednesday & Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog HERE with promo code GIL and play $5 to get $100 in bonus funds or bonus entries https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... For a limited time, save on the perfect gift by visiting https://AuraFrames.com to get $35 off Aura’s best-selling Carver Matframes - named #1 by Wirecutter - by using promo code ARENA at checkout. SUBSCRIBE:    / @thearena0   Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos!   / discord   Must be 18+ (19+ in AL, NE; 19+ in CO for some games; 21+ in AZ & MA) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369) 2 Min Timer 0:00:00 Show Start 0:02:01 Giannis Sends Another Message To The Bucks 0:06:20 Best Landing Spots For Giannis 0:50:27 CP3 Sent Home By The Clippers 1:00:48 Cooper Flagg Is Making Noise In Year 1 1:49:18 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:34 Whoa, whoa! Full couch here today in the arena. Happy to be employed. The Nike? Uh-uh. I like them. How everybody feel? I just thought it was nice.
Starting point is 00:00:46 The fans came up a little bit. Good today. Got a lot of things to discuss going on around the league, some unfortunate things for some out there in Los Angeles and Milwaukee. But he's still... They dirty, so that means he walking in the bushes. Looking for his ball. Like normal.
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Starting point is 00:01:30 T1. First swing. Right. You gotta keep you all the ball. Oh, I did. Can't go get it. It's all in the head. That win.
Starting point is 00:01:38 I can't do nothing about that win up there. Can't go get it either. But this is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. Woo-Woop. I'm merely a host Josiah Johnson. As always, we've got the NBA and NBA 2K legend Gilbert Arenas. I want to change my name. What do you change your name to?
Starting point is 00:01:52 Because you keep doing legend out there and people are taking that to series. They've been whooping your ass? They've been who, yeah. Yeah. I'm going to say 2K player. 2K player. 2K.K. Player. 2K.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Content creator. 2K. 2K. Contact creator. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been getting body slammed out there, man. That's any word. Next to you.
Starting point is 00:02:14 We got NBA champion of the world swaggy P. Nick Young back here with us. Representing tough crowd in a card carrying country club member. We got Mr. B. Brandon Jennings back on the couch. Rocking the 34. Yeah. Interesting things going on with the 34s out there. Yon, this is brand.
Starting point is 00:02:35 Yeah. Oh. I like the color way. They got the own brand. They got purple and gold options? No. On this side of the couch, we got the distinguished gentleman from Oak Cliff, former number one pick, Kenyon Martin.
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Starting point is 00:03:50 People will buy them, though. The only AI we respect. The content, what is it called? Like, oh, do you can ID them? Oh, IDM. Like, what's crazy. Well, we got a lot of things to discuss. Here's what's cracking in Gil's arena today.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Let me stop walking in for people. Yon has made some interesting moves on his social media, but could he be making a move out of Milwaukee too? We will discuss. The Clippers shockingly cut ties with Chris Paul in the midst of his retirement tour. Where to CP3 go from here? And Cooper Flagg has been making history as an 18-year-old in his rookie season, but just how high is the former number one pick ceiling?
Starting point is 00:04:29 But before we get into all that, as always, this episode is presented by Underdog. New to Underdog, use Code Gill and get $100 in bonus entries when you play your first $5 entry, win or lose. Underdogs available in most states, including Florida, California, and Texas. Support the show, claim your bonus, and start playing today with Code Gill. And if you can't watch the show live with us on YouTube, we have audio version available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcast. So let's get right to it.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Things might be getting messy in Milwaukee with Yanni. Janice making some questionable moves on his social media to send yet another message to the Bucks. So according to reports, in late November, the Greek freak scrubbed both his Twitter and Instagram accounts of the majority of Bucks-related content with the only IG posts of himself in a Bucks uniform coming from the NBA Cup in 2024 and an NBA title in 2021. And on the app formerly known as Twitter, Yannis deleted all posts following the 2021 championship. So you see right here the first posts on the account being a birthday tribute to Kobe from August. 23rd, 2021. So Monday night, the Bucks tricked off a 16-point second half lead to the Wizards to fall to 9 and 13 on the season, 11th in the east.
Starting point is 00:05:35 It was just Washington's third win of the season. And back in early October, Shams reported the Knicks and Bucks were engaged in trade discussions with New York being Yannis's preferred destination. Yannis shot that report down, but did raise some eyebrows with his comments at the time. I'm here. So all the other extra stuff does not matter. I think I've communicated with my teammates, communicate with the people that I respect and love, that the moment that I step in on this court or in this facility
Starting point is 00:06:06 wear this jersey, the rest does not matter. I'm locked into whatever I have in front of me. Now, if in six, seven months, I change my mind. I think that's human too. You're allowed to make any decision you want. But I'm lucked in. I'm locked into this team. I'm locked into this guys, to this group.
Starting point is 00:06:26 and to my coaching staff and to myself. So we'll start with Mr. B rocking the Yannis brand on this episode of Gills Arena presented by Underdog Woo-Woop. How concerns should the Bucks be with Yonis scrubbing his social media? I mean, we all have crash out moments when we want to delete things. I know I do all the time, so I don't really pay too much attention to that. I think the real concern is the Bucks just trying to find ways to win. I mean, whatever's going to happen is going to happen is going to
Starting point is 00:06:56 happen at this point you know with with the bucks I mean they already shot themselves in the foot when they got rid of Drew Holiday I feel like that's what started it then you get rid of Griffin when he came and they were winning they were third or second in the east so yeah it's been I mean you know it's been coming to this point you know dealt with injuries Kevin Porter Jr. has been out he's just getting back so it's just all over the place right now and the team is just not good you know like I said before not Yannis is 90% of the team, 95.
Starting point is 00:07:28 So, you know, I think the more concerned is the Bucs trying to figure out what's next and their future. I mean, Yannis franchise player, Bucks have made some interesting moves these past few years. Fire Boone Hoser, obviously led them to the first championship of 50 years. Ronan Adrian Griffin, he lasted about 40 games. He was replaced with Doc Rivers, like you mentioned. Yeah. The dame trade, which. It's so hard to say goodbye to yesterday.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Hey, don't. Hey, there's a lot of shit going on in your world, man. Everybody, you're supporting. Just gone. They're just getting out of there. Who? There's a lot of there. I know he's a, he's a free agent.
Starting point is 00:08:17 He's a free agent. He's a free agent. Uh-huh, and then yonness, me. What? I'm sorry, keep tanning it. Detroit hates me when I said it And I'm saying Them faces
Starting point is 00:08:31 Them signature shooting Them guys right there That Nike be saying You are that guy They move them They move them They don't sit in them cities long Like that
Starting point is 00:08:44 They're moving them He's going up the road somewhere So He doesn't He doesn't ran his course over there In Bucktown So it should be grateful I mean, yon is 13 season with the Bucke.
Starting point is 00:08:57 A 13? Good hard 13. Yeah. I mean, the Bucs have a lot to be grateful for. I know. I know it is. I mean, it's a chip, I mean, 50 years waiting. I mean, he's done everything he's, you know, he could do.
Starting point is 00:09:09 I mean, at the end of the day. So, you know, like I said, the Buc's concern is moving forward and what's going to happen with them. I don't worry about that. We know what's going to happen. It's so. Yeah, well, I mean, it ain't over. Well, what is this? But I guess whenever you erase everything, everyone looks at it, right?
Starting point is 00:09:32 Everyone's paying the phone. They said he did like two weeks ago, though. Yeah, I mean, you know. It said late November. So initially everybody after that Wizards game was saying he had scrubbed it then. Obviously, people, you know, you got the internet sleuth. We're not monitoring Yonis and social media. They're monitoring.
Starting point is 00:09:44 So late November. The fact that you can go back all the way to them tweets is crazy, though. But if you're deleting them one by one? Like, you know how Twitter works? So, I mean, you've got to go all the way back down to find somebody. Deleting one by one. Just all my history? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Just me, just, I don't want it. Like, Instagram is it. You can delete the picture, but. Instagram, you can archive, right, so you can do it hide it for a little bit. Yeah. Twitter, I believe, once it's gone, it's over. Yeah. You can't.
Starting point is 00:10:14 I mean, just saying. 44 posts left, I believe, on his Twitter, if he hasn't had any recently. Let's move over this side shot. What do you think about Janus? deleting the bulk of his bucks-related content, just keeping it championship-centric, 2024 NBA Cup, 2021 championship. I think a lot of my worry is him being with that one organization for his career.
Starting point is 00:10:44 I've always liked when players do that, fight it out, you know, figure out how to get with the management and make shit happen for his benefit. there's alike. But I mean, at this point, the way the NBA is being formatted and the way is functioning, they're doing what's best for business. Everybody's getting all this money coming in. And if you really look at it, the bucks ain't using their money to prop. They paid the coaches more than they paid the players. So you look at the players on that roster. You look at what Yannis has been asking for to get rid of Chris, get rid of Drew. Do you feel like Yonis
Starting point is 00:11:23 I mean, I'm not saying he's doing it. But he's at least known. Yeah, he's aware of all of these moves based on just like any other star wanting better talent. You know, he's like, yo, get us some real talent in here to give us back into a competitive mode. And that not happening leaves you to like really think, do I want to be here with this energy when they're not listening to me type shit. So I think wherever he do go, it's going to shake some shit up. and he's going to have more pressure wherever he go
Starting point is 00:11:55 because he's going to have to win because there's no reason to leave and not win and just be out there packing the stats and all that type of shit but I think it's going to be a sad day for Milwaukee because the buck stops here
Starting point is 00:12:08 so them getting dame that wasn't real talent I don't think they I don't think they wanted that deal I don't think they wanted that deal I think that deal had a lot of based on Miami not being able to take advantage of that deal. They needed to do something. They got it done.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Definitely didn't look like they ain't wanted to be there. Yeah, I think it was the wrong talent. The wrong talent? You needed help. He definitely, but I don't think they should have. Like just from the beginning, you shouldn't have traded Drew. Like you said, like we said, you should have never traded Drew from the beginning.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Treat Chris Middleton that way, right? Guys who helped you win. Right? Right? They were a part of what Yannis helped do. So you were to treat them guys that way? They're just coming back to Roos? You don't think they had to?
Starting point is 00:13:01 To get rid of the Middle Tim was hurt? No, he just came back. Like he played in the playoffs, he was playing on one leg and Yonis was out. He played well. Yeah. He played well in that playoffs when Yon is, like he was the only one out there. He played well. And then he got healthy, right?
Starting point is 00:13:16 But he had the bilateral ankle search that he couldn't walk at one point. But he made it back to that. It was playing well in their playoffs. And then you do that like... And then Drew wasn't scoring, and they figured that they needed more scoring. He wasn't scoring when they wanted. He was the same player when they wanted.
Starting point is 00:13:33 That ain't what Drew Holiday is built on. But for you to go out and do that, then the dames backfired. Then Drew gold motherfucking boss and winning to the champion. So it just backfired all around. And now this man has been asking like, hey, I'm trying to be competitive in the NBA as a team. I'm trying to be competitive as a team.
Starting point is 00:13:50 I'm already competitive as a person. Was it the wrong talent or was it just that they got hurt? The wrong. Louis Allen. With Dane. Yeah, they were hurt a lot. Hey, me, Dame can't play together. But Yonnas heard a lot during that.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Contrast and style. Because wasn't they number two? Yeah, it was number two in the East because they were winning with the coach. Yeah, but when he got, I just didn't, I don't think, I think the styles contrasts. But Yon has been hurt past few posts. He just didn't. He was a different player in it.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Yes, I just think the styles contrast. didn't know they can't run the pick and roll together really because John is he don't know whether the pop was on the road it was a conflict at times both hell of a basketball players and they all right
Starting point is 00:14:31 I think they both need you think if they keep Griffin you think it's a different story yeah okay I do all right I believe that too coming from a hooper coming from somebody who like really I don't know I don't know because when you look at the game
Starting point is 00:14:47 When we were watching them play, specifically them two, when Griffin was the coach, they was winning. You could tell one of the other wasn't happy with what was going on. You can feel it. It's new. It's something different, though. No, I get it. And that's what I was saying about Dame. I was saying the Dame, he has to adjust his game because you're no longer the number one alpha in a small market. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Now you're coming here to a championship team. that's formulated a certain pedigree, you got to adjust to him, right? And the adjustment wasn't immediate. It was gradual, but Adrian Griffin trying to hold them accountable was another thing that was getting in the way. I think it was working. You know, and then it's like, it's something different. What we talk about.
Starting point is 00:15:36 You didn't let Dame be Dame. But what we talk about, when you pick up Dame and you lose Drew, what does Dame have to pick up? The defense aside. The defense aside. What does Janus really probably? his cell phone being a defensive player the year type nigga right so if you giving up certain things that's breaking us down but you just want to come down and shoot that's going wear on you
Starting point is 00:15:58 but it's not necessarily they're going back and forth with it it's just something in the back of yanna's mind like bro your dude got 25 drew not letting that happen bro this is the reason why we was winning because these are always but these are always uncomfortable in the beginning like like when there's something different like even when i played with stan van gundt it was uncomfortable But it was working. It's working. It's working. So you 40 games in, it's still kind of uncomfortable, but you're winning it out.
Starting point is 00:16:26 We're figuring it out. And you got somebody over there, I think, and Agent Griffin, who would have figured it out on how to intertriamble both of them dudes. But it's unfortunate they are where they are right now, man. I feel like we always talking about Janus leaving our stand. It's about time you just go to. It's going to be another conversation next year what Yonan is going to do. I think they brought in the wrong coach for sure
Starting point is 00:16:49 because you see the players that come in they don't play the thing even from Kuzma. Let's just look at the buck. He's not even out there. Look at the bucks these past few seasons. So 2020, 22, 2020, 23 season, number one in the east. Lose to the heat.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Yonis hurt for a few of those games, right? Fire Boonehozer. Bring in Adrian Griffin, I think, start out 30 and 13 before relieving him. It's a 30 and 13. Made the dame trade. right before the season. But it was 30 and 30 and 30
Starting point is 00:17:19 with Dame in the lineup. Dame missed through those games that they lost. So they were 30 and 30. I mean 30 and 10 with Dane. Before he switched. Some dissension with the players
Starting point is 00:17:33 and Griffin and kind of his coaching style he led to his ouster, bring in Doc Rivers. So finished third in Dame's first season. Losing the Pacers' first round. Yonis, obviously heard again. And then 24, 25, again. loose of the pacers?
Starting point is 00:17:46 Yon, I've got to do too much. That's why he always going to bring in Miles Turner. Yannis, supportive of that move, still talk about did he know, did he not know? That would mean Dave was going to get way of stressed to be able to accommodate Turner on the roster. But sign Yonis' brothers. Obviously, first team with three brothers, all in the active roster together. So it seems like this team has done a lot to try to accommodate Yannis and what he's looking for.
Starting point is 00:18:06 But at what point? Except get players that can help to win. Is it Doc's players? Is it Doc bringing in his supposed to, it, formula to winning. What is that? Certain players that run in the system that we think that
Starting point is 00:18:21 he hasn't his head. Think about the Clippers. Maybe he should tell somebody. Think about the Clippers. When the Clippers played, JJ was the shooter, A.J. Green. You had Blake.
Starting point is 00:18:30 You had DeAndre, which supposedly could have been Brooke and Janus. Then you had your utility guys. You got your CP who was supposed to be Dame. It's a different player. It's a different,
Starting point is 00:18:42 completely different player. So you don't got C.P. setting up a JJ. Even with Rondo, too. Even with Boston, early Boston. So you're looking at a formula where he's expecting certain players that he implement and he bringing in that just don't work because those players don't got the talent.
Starting point is 00:18:59 They ain't the same talented guys. Yeah, they don't do the same thing. They don't do the same thing. So now you're looking at a shell of a formula. This nigga got in his head like, yeah, give me these guys, and we can work it like this. And it's like, you got Kuzma, Bobby Porter's, you got Kevin Porter.
Starting point is 00:19:14 junior and Roblins and they're not as proven as the other guys for sure not but what do you do if they get if they fire doc and they still do the same thing though oh no just swamp they should put them in the clippers bring a tyloo in yeah just wrong yeah just trade coaches the coach trade oh man send doc back down there because they they said there's all raggedy over there to it and ours is trying to figure it out. So let's just go ahead and do this. Damn, that's bad. So raggedy for raggedy.
Starting point is 00:19:49 No, no, not right. I'm saying, both teams right now very back anyway. I'm going to have a disappointed season. When John is coming back anyway. How long are they going to make the playoffs? That didn't Kevin Porter kind of hurt them being out. Yeah. No, it did.
Starting point is 00:20:03 It did. But that happens every year, I think, with us. That happens every year with the buck. That's what happened with the bucks every year since the championship. It's either in the playoffs or it's early in the season. Somebody's always going down. Johnny's got to do too much than be hurt before the playoff. I mean, but now, I mean, but now looking at Yonah's situation, I really, like, I don't even, man, man, like, I don't even blame Brown for leaving Cleveland.
Starting point is 00:20:25 So, like, back then, like, no, back then when you're getting. Yonis had more help trying to put a team together in Cleveland. I mean, they went to the finals. No, but versus what was coming to Cleveland. Yeah, but LeBron went to the finals, though. So I understand after that, like when I get to the finals, I get swept. So we have some breaking news coming from Shams Sharania tweeted just about three minutes ago said Janice and his agent Alex Aratzis have started conversations with the Milwaukee Bucks about the two-time NBA MVP's future
Starting point is 00:20:56 discussing whether his best fit is staying or elsewhere. A resolution is expected in the coming weeks. And we had a wind horse. Hey, yeah, what is that? I'm sorry. Whether his butt fit is staying or going. Why did they just say that? Yeah, you added a piece in them.
Starting point is 00:21:13 I'm like, what was that piece? I did not have to stay. I'm adding to the team. Saying if he's going to stay or go. We know he'd leave, and so it's just a matter where. And there's another report, obviously, that the Knicks and Bucks were discussing a trade, but I don't think a lot of people really is that Yannis apparently asked for that trade for those conversations ago.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Winhorse talked about that earlier today. So saying that this scrubbing of the social, not necessarily surprising. He did say that he was committed to the bucks and all that stuff, but. Had to be a billionaire. Who wants to be a billionaire? You go there in New York. It's time to go. The Knicks are one option, but according to reports,
Starting point is 00:21:50 the Lakers could try to make a move for Yannis if he decides to request him to trade. What about O.KC? We talked about on the show yesterday. OKC having the ability to make fuck you, Trays. The problem is that it would be some tough decisions and likely have to break up some of that big three. For some of the money to ballot.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Yeah, just to stand on that apron. A.R. and Ruby for Yon. So let's just talk real quick. So reports now, not confirmed, but the Lakers, if Yannis did request a trade, we'll try to go on and get him as a look to pair a superstar with Luca for the future. So after the Luka trade went down back in February, Yonis jokingly had this reaction to the Blockbuster deal. You know what I want.
Starting point is 00:22:28 I want Luka to the Lakers. I want Jokets to the Knicks. I want all the Europeans to go to all the big markets, you know, to see. see something incredible. This is what I want. This is my dream. This is my dream. So now again, that was a joke. No, that wasn't. He's been here long too. His English ain't good. No better. He was like he worked at a 7-Eleven or something. So Yannis said that was a joke, whether we're whether believed to be or not. But what he said right before that,
Starting point is 00:23:02 definitely was not a joke. It goes both ways. We cannot have a double standard here. You know, when the teams make the best moves for them and they believe that they can get another player to win now. When a player believes that he can go to a different team, and he believes that he can have a chance to win a championship, we cannot crucify the person and say that he's not loyal and he didn't do the right thing and he let everybody down. Because the history of showed you have to do what is best
Starting point is 00:23:31 for you and your family, you have to do what's best, most important, you know, to win. Yon is eligible for an extension next October. extension next October has a player option in 2027. A nigga up again? This nigga's always up. Will Yannis be a good fit? You're doing a bribe.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Damn. Was he signing only two-year deals? Doing a briar and KD. Because I was going to say, yeah, didn't he just sign his deal? So what he's doing right here is actually he's meaning it. But he's up again. So, okay, there we go. 2027, it would be very interesting.
Starting point is 00:24:06 No, you said this. No, he was for an extension. October. Yeah, October. Next, excuse me, next year, leading into the 2027 summer, sorry. Oh. So under contract this year, next year,
Starting point is 00:24:17 and then player option, that summer, excuse me. For me speaking, but Gil, resident Lakers fan, would Lakers be a, or would Yannis be a good fit with Luca and the Lakers? What? That should be heaven. I mean, it's not about the Lakers, it's about the Lakers, it's about can he fit with Luca's style?
Starting point is 00:24:35 Can they mesh together? Um, that's, that's between those two. I don't know the relationship, I don't know the relationship, but, uh, but you think it was a joke when he said he wants all his Europeans in a big market. He said he was joking. He's not joking at all. Everybody wants to be in a big market. They know they're not dumb.
Starting point is 00:24:59 They know if they're in big markets, they're going to be pushed out of this world. So there's a reason. He named the other two, we need to be in big markets. The euros. And he said what? There's going to be something amazing because they already know that they're going to be pushed to the next level
Starting point is 00:25:20 and they're going to get the respect and the accolades that just comes with being in the big market itself. Just be in there, get you advantages. So they want that. Yonke is sitting there with a fucking triple double every goddamn every goddamn night and nobody talks about them. and if he was in New York
Starting point is 00:25:38 he'd be God but do you think yoga cares he'd be God everyone cares you think motherfuckers practice every day not to care we say that shit I don't I don't care about being no goddamn all NBA player yeah yeah we do
Starting point is 00:25:52 we say that shit when we don't get it we do we're looking at the list too like why's he here why is he here we care we train because we care be humble so you know like we always say
Starting point is 00:26:06 yoghers don't care because he don't he don't talk about the game as we do but he's in shape every year his skill levels there every year he hasn't dropped he's putting boot to ass every season against every opponent so obviously this man is training more than we think so yes he cares and i'm pretty sure he knows if he was in a bitter a bigger market he would be treated like what his stats say But at the same, did you really think Joker care? Because he don't talk about that type of thing. He just care about his horses? Yeah, like, no.
Starting point is 00:26:41 He could have been left. Y'all think it's possible that the league has something to do with pushing players, the best players who are in the small markets, to the bigger markets, for the reasons of the broadcasting deal. See, now you asking, now you asking the question, boy, see? It's the AI. See, now you asking the questions, man. I'm just saying, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:07 New TV rights deal has been a lot of stuff going on this TV. Just think about what we talk about. We sit on here and we talk about the Lakers all the time. We don't talk about Detroit. Don't talk about the small. We have talked about Detroit. I'm just saying not to the extent. We also have the glazing extent of.
Starting point is 00:27:23 We had tier two Tuesdays that we've been workshopping. I'm just saying, like, we all know like when you pushing the bigger teams it's better for the viewership because everybody, wants to hear about certain players, certain teams, legacies, Boston, we've been pushing this shit for a long time, right? But then you look at the players who are in those other markets that are performing, they're not being left out of all NBA and none of that stuff, but it's like he's saying, the marketing push, the NBA partnerships that are all connected from TV deals to the shoe
Starting point is 00:27:56 companies, everything is there. Like he said, Nike's not going to let their player get buried in Milwaukee. So let's send them to New York. Okay. Let's send them to Boston. Let's send them to Atlanta. Let's send them to Miami. Let's send them somewhere where we know our visibility is going to be bigger.
Starting point is 00:28:11 But what's going to cover that? Sending them to the finals, getting them into the third round of the playoffs when it's time. These are things I feel like are set up already. It's predetermined. Back in 2011, they talked about contraction. The word contraction, bringing all of the big market teams together. and having them actually be the one little pool of teams that we're all going to look at. And all the small market teams are going to be the ones that we're like, yeah, we'll have you on TV, but not like that.
Starting point is 00:28:44 All y'all are going to be here. And once you look at that, all the powerhouse, you look at the super team started forming. These guys start going here, these guys on TV a lot. This is just what's happening. A lot of guys going to have to move. Like he said, Joker to New York. Joker to New York and Janice to L.A.
Starting point is 00:29:04 Yeah, I feel like... That's insane. It's called good business. NBA new TV rights deal, but you got the NFL that's also been pushing in on the NBA's corners now with Christmas games taking more of that market share.
Starting point is 00:29:15 So you think Adam Silver in the league are filling the heat of that and saying, we need to get these numbers up? No, I mean, listen, I've heard this by owner a long time ago. Yeah, he said, the NBA, not your team, The NBA itself thrives.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Like when you're talking about big business for the NBA, when the NBA is rocking globally, Lakers have a superstar. Chicago has a superstar or they win in. Boston has a superstar they win in. Them three teams, there has to be a superstar in those three teams for the league to thrive.
Starting point is 00:29:51 For sure. So if you got all three of them with superstars at the same time, the NBA's on fire. as a global group so that means they can go out and go get big business deals if those three hubs are held down He ain't even got to move
Starting point is 00:30:06 Are you saying Thunder Pacers? No, no, no, no, no, he ain't got to move He can just walk down the street He ain't even got to move Right on the highway. Go to Chicago. Yep. Do you, do you, do you, do you...
Starting point is 00:30:13 If he goes to Chicago, that's yeah. But do y'all think if, okay, see, like become a dynasty that become like a big market? No, the market... No, I think you're coming to dynasty. The market's population style.
Starting point is 00:30:26 But, oh, like, the Warriors wasn't, nobody wasn't checking for the Warriors and so they became a major market, though. Remember, they're still in California. They were just asking. It's your market is where you live. I know, but OKC being that team to me, like when KD was there, they felt like a big market with KD and Russ was there. They was always on TV. Everybody liked them. No, KD and then were big.
Starting point is 00:30:47 That's what I'm saying, though. No, no, no, KD. No, KD and Russ, the city is a college town. I know, I know the team, but the team. The college town, though. But the team was always on TV. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But if you win, say they win three.
Starting point is 00:31:02 They don't help the NBA. Like they can't be like. So go to the city, but the chief. No, I don't help the NBA. Football's different, though, right? Because they only play once a week, right, so I understand what you're saying. That's what I'm trying to say. They become like a dynasty.
Starting point is 00:31:15 You don't think. But it's a little harder in the 82 games, right? Because no matter how many games, right now, if we go there, there, what, 20 and 1? 21 and 1. Just beat the Warriors. 21 and 1. And let's go check the ticket prices.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Because they ain't moved. Detroit was a big thing back in. What I'm saying is they're not moving. I don't know. What I'm saying is their ticket, their tickets is set at a price. Here, L.A., okay, so he can come here. We can charge 20,000 front row. They're going to pay for it.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Because the market itself. Don't you think winning changes like a team, an organization, though? It can. Like even the pool. Multiple championships. But Bulls is a big market city. It's a big city. Listen, the bucks is a big city.
Starting point is 00:32:02 The bucks are the championship and everything, right? So, what's the, you know how much it costs a sick course type of the bucks here? Swaggy. I'm saying, like, it still didn't go up a lot. It still didn't. No, but I'm saying, it's about the demand. It's just so small market. It is.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Right. The demand in OKC is going to be smaller because it's not a big, not necessarily a big city. Let's just say it's a college town. It is. Oklahoma Sooners are bigger than the O KC based on longevity. Yeah, that ticket is going to be more for the... I mean, what is it? Is it the Seattle Supersonics, the team that came down?
Starting point is 00:32:36 Seattle, OKC, right? Move from Seattle to OKC. So that move alone was a power move based on them not wanting to do some shit business in Seattle no more. We're going to do this and we're going to own the team, NBA. We own this team down here. They're not trying... Initially, we ain't trying to make no big money off this team. because it's a small place.
Starting point is 00:32:56 But guess who we got? Kevin Durant, picked up Russell Westbrook, picked up James Hardin. We didn't plan this out. Next thing you know, we're in the finals. Now we've got to play these guys all over the place and billboard. But then what happens?
Starting point is 00:33:13 Where does KD go? Much bigger market. And where did James Hardin go? What was they calling? Houston. Houston is a big market. What was they calling Warriors fans when they was winning?
Starting point is 00:33:24 Warrior fans. No, no. It was a different name. Because people just start coming out the woods. Like, that's what I'm talking about. I know it's California still. But people don't check for Chicago now. When I lost, when I was there and we was losing, it was sold out.
Starting point is 00:33:36 I'm not watching the bulls. But no, what I'm saying, and go to say? Oh. Do we believe Warriors? They were there. You didn't go out. You can go back. For sure.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Go back. With BD in there. They were fighting. Nobody came to see Bobby Surr and you. B.BD. Nobody was coming to see Bobby Surr and Antoine Jackson. and Tony James and you that's all right your games are sold out but I'm trying to say like you don't check for the Bulls right now at all the Bulls is a big
Starting point is 00:34:03 market but you if they had a superstar there you're back on TV yeah if Yonis went there it just run it'll turn it'll turn over night it'll turn over what I'm telling if Yonis was they need a whatever TV games they got now they went there that whole change that whole show you said so what does they're a big guy on the superstar though so if Shay went there and you think okay see it fuck yeah hell yeah no he's an MVP candidate he's not like
Starting point is 00:34:29 the eric rose exciting it don't matter not like the timid wolves people watch the timid wolves metrics because ant man like they're a big team he's exciting but he's also no no he's also an all NBA but his play yeah he's exciting no what you're saying is ant man's play is yes
Starting point is 00:34:45 yeah that's so sad people love watching but Shay's game and his accolades he would be pushing as a superstar that bull's jersey look you got exactly Levine and Damar DeRosen on the same team in Chicago, right? One is exciting, the other one is precise, he's consistent. Tomorrow was like almost like he was in the MVP racing when he was When he was told, tomorrow he had it on but both of them there together didn't do no
Starting point is 00:35:12 justice because they wasn't all NBA just so you know he won how many championships game winners I remember that they got five championships and they Make it bigger in my eyes. So, Antonio, you got five championships in the organization. But they was born, no. But look who's in front of them? The Wizards. Because the market's bigger.
Starting point is 00:35:35 So no matter how many championships, OKC, win. I feel like it depends on a player, too. What I'm saying is it doesn't matter how many championships your organization win. OKC can win 10 championships in a row. They're not going to sell more than New York, Boston, or Lakers when they go to I'm not saying they go big market. You think Cleveland was a big market when Braun was there? It was on, but of course it's Bronn.
Starting point is 00:36:00 They're not a big market. It wasn't a big market, but they were on TV every fucking that. That's what I'm saying. It depends on the players. It was fighting the wide. It was crazy. Miami and Cleveland, 17th and 18th largest markets. So you literally went from Cleveland to Miami.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Two middle tier markets. Yeah. But that's just LeBron. Bronte, as we call it. People watch the Tim of Woods all the time. of Wool's all the time, I feel like. But back to the Janus Lakers discussion, because if you're talking about Janus
Starting point is 00:36:27 wanted to go to the Knicks, that would be huge for the league. Nicks are already big time, but with Yannis on that squad, you're talking about Yonis pairing up with Luka two of the best Euros in the game right now. If you're the Lakers, who's off limits on that roster besides Luka? Keep in mind, LeBron has a no trade
Starting point is 00:36:42 clause this season. Wait, why Yonis got to go there? Why can't go to Nix? That's just, the Lakers would be aggressive in trying to, they're trying to make big moves. Mark Walter came in, push the bus family out. You're right. I'm spending a big bread. In Francisco, I mean... They've never seen the players in the face. You got to
Starting point is 00:37:00 go to Jackson Hayes in there. Jack's Hayes got to be, or we're not doing it? Go to the state? I mean, if it's a big market, I know all of them are going to be trying to throw everything they can. You think they'll do right by Yonathan, send him where he want to go, though? Or they'd be like,
Starting point is 00:37:17 I think he earned that, but... But if you try... He still feels. He has power in here because if you try to pull that, well, I'm just going to opt out and go where I want to go in 2027. So whatever you're doing right now. He's going to be 35, 36. He's Greek though, Greco Nigerian.
Starting point is 00:37:31 Is he going up still? Clippers ain't won a goddamn game. Look where they franchises were. I say, I know the, I'm just saying don't the players sometimes make the team. They make the team visible. That's what I'm saying. I'm not saying that OKC going to be bigger. Yeah, I mean.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Is he getting better or is he has he reached his people? peak. 30 points per game on 60%. I believe is heading for three straight seasons in doing that. Yeah. Are we going up or are we going down from here? If this is the peak, three years in a row, can we go up like Joe L&B? He went up.
Starting point is 00:38:07 When we thought he was at this, like come back next year, big fellow get in shape, wow, what, he averaged, what, 32, 31, he went up a couple points and won the MVP. But now, you know, he got hurt. So now it's like for Yannis, if he come, like, if this is the peak he gets traded, is it going to be, all right, we're going to outperform now? We're going to show that this new place that I'm in helped me get to these new heights. Or are we going to be at this place where we're like, damn, Yonis, production went down, but they're winning more. Okay. I mean, that means on a better team.
Starting point is 00:38:42 If I bring this 31 and 13 and 7 somewhere, you put me with some pieces, we got a fucking chance to win. every time. Like, if I don't put you with no pieces, we just put you in a new place. But my 31, 13 and 7 ain't good enough then. That's what I'm saying. It ain't good enough. Does it go down? No.
Starting point is 00:38:59 I don't think it's production goes down. Yonis turns 31 on Saturday just for, because he's only 31 years old. God, damn. I don't think it's production goes down. Allegedly. You just got to change the way he played. If he played for the Knicks? You got to change the way he play.
Starting point is 00:39:12 They play in the half court. That ain't going to, because Jalen Bruns is still the control pace. Right, right. So his number, you think it would go down a little. If they, if you plan, if he had, That's the half court where he's not the focal point. For sure. But the winning, though.
Starting point is 00:39:24 But I mean, but the thing at that end of day so you. Him averaging 25, 13, 6 ain't the worst thing. No, no, it's not. Everybody do that. If they're doing that and he's got a Jalen Bronson's controlling to pay somebody like that, and he's averaging that, yeah, the production might go down. No, no, he's getting up off that ball.
Starting point is 00:39:41 Yeah, that's the thing. He's going to have a choice. Fellow man, get up on that ball. Yeah. Get a little nigger to ball. What is that? What is that? Because you got two different Kobe.
Starting point is 00:39:52 You got the eight Kobe and then the mature 20, like, you know what I'm saying? Like you can still. But how hard Yannis played always. You put him in, I'm saying, if the injuries that Yonis has suffered in the playoffs is because he plays basketball a certain way. Yes. Right? For sure.
Starting point is 00:40:08 He's running down here. He's rolling ankles. He's running over people, bumping knees, all those things, right? In order to avoid something, we all know injuries are a part of sports, I'm not saying that. But if he changes the ways he plays. instead of 50 possessions him doing this shit you cut that down to 25
Starting point is 00:40:23 So you're saying He's still going to get them same bucket It's just going to look different That's all Do we say it's going to become A more of a half court player I think he can't And that's fine
Starting point is 00:40:37 Because now we're getting To another element of his game And that's the part of maturing Right He has the ability in the body and the skill set He has the ability In the body and the skill set I ain't saying change to go back to the way the NBA used to play with Shaq
Starting point is 00:40:52 and throwing a ball down. I ain't saying go back to that. But he has the ability to implement it a little more because of his skill set. Let me ask you this. Throw him the ball on the block, action on the weak side, and let him go to work. You're still doing the same, you can still get the same looks if they decide. You got the guy coming out the, I'm saying you've got the dude coming out the corner. You still get the same three and same looks if you put him in a...
Starting point is 00:41:15 Let him play in that Joel area. Joel did it. What the fuck is going on? He can get fired. He draws files. You put him in that Joel area. Catch it, go to work. He has to work faster.
Starting point is 00:41:31 I'm living with that. Joel is more skilled with this shit. I'm living with that. Catch it. Go to work. Hold on. My question is this. Spin out.
Starting point is 00:41:41 What team is he going to go to with it? I'm going to have a dynamic point guard like a Dame Lillard that won't the ball and want to shoot. They want it in his hand. all the time. What team? There's plenty places you can go. What good team?
Starting point is 00:41:52 Listen, the Knicks are good. No, I'm back. That's Jalen Brunson. Okay. And, yeah. Now, what happened with him and game? They got other players too that played defensive. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:42:00 I'm just asking. With him and game, the style of play you're talking about, but they moved into a half-court game. They slowed the ball down to see if they can play like that. That ain't not a pick-in-roll play. That ain't what he'd do. That's what Jalen Brunson does. They was given Yonis the ball in that mid-
Starting point is 00:42:18 and letting him work. The thing was they were sagging off and it was making him do other things. And that's what it couldn't, it wasn't real good for Dame because Dave was like, well damn, my nigga go to work. We're giving you the ball.
Starting point is 00:42:30 You ain't going to work. Yeah. So I'm going to say, yeah. I'm living with. Run when you have it. The whole game, y'all is supposed to know we're living with it.
Starting point is 00:42:38 I'm living with that. I didn't say, yes. But what were you, I said a fifth. That's like LeBron. That's like him getting a rebound and pushing that bitch 50 times.
Starting point is 00:42:48 what he does and cut it down to 25 what's you running for him what you running for Janice in the half court that's going to make him effective that's what I'm saying that's what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:42:56 if we're not if we're not giving him 50 at ease and we're like play your way right and we're like all right let's take me out let me go I'm going to give you something
Starting point is 00:43:06 defensively we get back in transition all the time enough we get back in transition enough to force you into half court okay cool we put Janus on the fucking wing we run a back
Starting point is 00:43:18 screen for him, either what you're going to do for it? Flights cut. You run a back screen for him. You're going to switch it? We have to. Peel and post. Right there. Throw the ball. Do you switch it? Throw the ball the side he came from. He's doubling on the cat. He's doubling on the case. He's under the fucking away.
Starting point is 00:43:33 We're switching right away. We're switching right away. He's going back door. You got to hold him up, switch it. I'm going to be honest with you. It don't matter how many people you put on you. Oh, this nigga. Yeah. This nigga over the thing in the way. We used to play basketball, right? That niggas say, hey, that niggins said, hold him up. When we switch, as soon as we switch, hold him up. No, that, no, there's a free run to where he want to get to.
Starting point is 00:43:57 But ain't nobody getting those kind of seals in the beat right now. If you draw it up. Zach Eadie might be the only one to get a seal like that. So you just ask me what we're running for him, right? I'm giving you set. I got you. I'm giving you sets. If you want to, listen, if I'm coaching Yonis and I want to get him different looks
Starting point is 00:44:14 in better situations, I put him in. those situations. Right. I run things different for him to get him easier looks, is what I'm saying. He catch the ball, he buff and go down that bitch, peel open, he wide open and you don't throw it to him and you five three, I got a problem with you. No for sure. He pill and post, you trying to fight with him to get position, it's a foul, right?
Starting point is 00:44:39 He's more aggressive than fucking 85, 90% of dudes in the league, offensively in that area that I'm speaking of. A hundred percent. You throw that bitch down, he hooked dunking that bitch with his left hand. But what has happened is, you just told me that side. I'm telling you how we were guarded. This is how we were guarded. The NBA is not.
Starting point is 00:44:59 I'm going to tell you who did, though. They guarded it. Sangoon and those boys guarded greasing them over there. The same way I'm talking about. He said, listen, as good as Janice is, he's a terrible passer. He don't know how to pass the ball. So we pressure him in the double team situations. he's not going to be able to make that play.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Because you know why? He didn't have the players. But he ain't been putting them situations. That's why we would do that to your offense. But we would do that until he adjusts. So the adjustment would be it ain't you just pull this shit out your ass out of a timeout, right? You practice. You were supposed to be training camp.
Starting point is 00:45:35 Yeah, yeah. We're going to put this is our offense. This is the, this is the Janus package pause. Right. Damn. Good job, Ken. Where to be mindful. This is the Yonis offensive.
Starting point is 00:45:48 The fucking play sheet, right? Yonis got 10 half-court sets. I ain't saying it got to be 35 of the motherfuckers. 10 different ways to get Yonis to touch on the block, on the elbow. With the scoring point card, you're saying. Yes, whoever you want to have on the rock. You're talking about the good team. Whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:46:07 With Luke, put him on the Lakers, whatever. J.J. Reddick. With Luke. I'm just throwing this shit for shits and giggles. We know the way Luca controls the pace of the game with every possession. It's the end of the third. We know that. You got 10 plays.
Starting point is 00:46:21 I ain't saying you get to all 10 every game. But we got 10 to get Janice touches close to the rim, which puts pressure on the defense. We all know that. You put them in those situations. I ain't saying you get to all 10 every game. You might only call fucking three of them. He might have got scored. He might got fouled.
Starting point is 00:46:41 He might put pressure on the defense. getting wide open three. You put him in better situations to help him because he's proven what he is going to do when he get the ball in his hand off the rim. He's proving that. He's getting that motherfucker. He's going with it. So if 50%, 60%
Starting point is 00:46:57 of his scoring output is that that means the 40% we're going to bake on 40% of you in the half court. And then we're going to cut that 40% into 20 because we know you can't shoot the jumper as effective as you should and you really don't like playing with your back to the basket.
Starting point is 00:47:13 So, we're at 20% with Yon is saying, all right, we're taking away 60% of your fast break offense. We can actually play this. So, push, hold on. I hear you, but that's the way we played an NBA and the way we gained playing shit. I hear you, yes, that's not this NBA. There is no fucking resistance around that paint area.
Starting point is 00:47:39 15, 16 feet, and in, there is no. resistance when Janice, under the Kupo, makes his mind up that he's going to attack. There is no resistance in those areas whatsoever. One moves, listen, trust me, from a nigga who I lived on one, two dribbles, 16, 17 feet in, I'm going left, I'm spinning back right, I'm going right, I'm spinning back left. He has the ability to finish with both hands around the rim, he's long athletic, he's dunking the ball from areas that most people can't reach. He's getting filed.
Starting point is 00:48:16 He's shooting fucking 13 feet off. So put him in those situations. Like, I hear you with the percentages and all that, but that's the way we would have guarded him. That's the way I got him right now. But you're sitting over here with me. I got him right now. But question for the couch, now, you got Yonis.
Starting point is 00:48:30 And the NBA ain't doing that. Especially them big, because they don't know how. You got Yonis trying to go to a better situation where I say you want to win a championship. I think that's been the main thing he said repeatedly. But you talk about making these trades. You've got to think about what all these teams are going to. give up to get him, is he going to find himself right back in a similar situation with Milwaukee
Starting point is 00:48:45 and not being on a contending level team? So when you look around the league, would other teams give Yannis the best chance at being on a championship contender year? The first time he gets when he gets traded there? What's the right? Nobody. You're going to have to you know, you're going to break your team up
Starting point is 00:49:01 to get him. So let me thought some names down. Then you have to make a deal. San Antonio. Does they make them? Do they have enough who do they have? Who do they have? They have to get rid of what? They have players in the tradeout. I mean, but what does it do with him? But just him and Wimby, at some point they're going to win a championship.
Starting point is 00:49:19 It wouldn't be just him and Wimby. It can be just him and Wimby for that. What's the one? Next year. And then from there, they can find anybody at that one. That's the same. Two years? Three years from that.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Three years from now, they have pieces, yeah. But defensively, they shouldn't everything. They have pieces, my point. They would have to give up some of those, but you're talking about a combination of Castle, Delon, Harper. what I'm saying. It don't matter. They're winning right now without winning. You put him in Yokish. It don't matter. You put him
Starting point is 00:49:48 in Luca. Within two to three years they win in the championship. Him and Winby will be crazy. I mean, we can talk about what our defense look like back in the day like King said, that's not our defense today. He's averaged 30 points a game.
Starting point is 00:50:04 11 rebounds, 6 assists for the last 5 years. 29 for the last 7 years. Right, which means whoever's out there for the last seven years couldn't do nothing with that motherfucker, okay? Right? They couldn't do nothing with him. So you put him with someone else that can put the ball in the basket at a very large rate, he's unstoppable.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Because right now, he's playing one on five, and he's averaging 30 and 11. One on five. We know who's coming down. He's 90% of the off. Right? 90% of the defense. You put him with anybody who can put the ball in the basket who's a threat in trouble You put him with Brunson like Dame Lillard
Starting point is 00:50:47 But you don't know like his style of place they were 30 and 10 I know 30 and I'm saying like They were 30 and 10 oh they got hurt but they were 30 and no I'm I'm saying I'm saying I'm saying to your point They were playing well they were playing well but it didn't sustain They got hurt they changed the what's the name but because they changed I think it got to be more than just a guy that puts the ball in the, but just a little bit more than that. He can have a dominant point guard. He got to have a two holiday points. He got to have a point.
Starting point is 00:51:20 What did he average with Dame? Oh, it doesn't matter. He averts 30. Okay. You can play stuff they. But what did Dame average? 26. Yeah, I think they were.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Are you talking about two 30 point in night scores? Yes, that's what they were there. There were 30 and 10. That's what they're actually. No, I'm saying like the other player. Does the other player need to average 30? Okay, can ask you something. Is 30 and 10 a good record?
Starting point is 00:51:42 Yes. Okay. Yes. I don't think he has that. We're looking at what happened after the, after they fired the coach. Now, that was different coaching at that point. I'm saying that Yannis wasn't unstoppable when he was with Dane. They were winning, but he wasn't no unstoppable guy.
Starting point is 00:51:59 They were still figuring out how they needed to play together. That's what I'm saying, the longevity of them two playing together. I don't feel like. Dame scoring output went down. He stayed. the same because he ain't changed his game. Nothing changed. Yonest style of play is tough
Starting point is 00:52:15 for a bronze or a point guard like that. Or Maxie or something like that. So their game changes but they both have, but they both had a chance to try to win it. But they're playing like this. So like so like the win. They're looking at it. So like the production, I mean at the end of day if
Starting point is 00:52:30 if Dame numbers is going down and Yonis is going up or going, long as they're winning, what difference does it fight? 40, 42, 21, 31, 33, 33, 32, 27. What was Drew's output when they won a championship? Back to back. Drew's output wasn't no 20-something. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:52:47 No, it was both both sides of the floor. But the thing was, Janice was able to take over when he needed to. It was all dependent on him. Drew and Chris, y'all come in and y'all. I mean, wasn't just, I mean, Chris Middleton wasn't no fucking slouching. I mean, I'm 20, yeah, I'm about saying, Chris Littleton was hurt. I mean, yeah, P.J. Tucker over, yeah, vets, you needed a whole conglomerate of thing. But you need it in a whole conglomerate of shit.
Starting point is 00:53:07 But I still, but now looking back, though, like, yes, I didn't like the dame, like, trade, but for Drew, but if they're 30 and 10, and they both averaging, I mean, we didn't really get a chance to really see. You put Janice with trade, like, that's not fair either. And then you fire your coach, and then it's just like, they win it? I like that one. Do they take it all the way? I like, who many years? Where are you at? Janice and.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Yeah. No, Janice and Trey. Where is he? We're not going in Atlanta. He's not going to Atlanta. He's not going to Atlanta. He's not going back to the basement? He's not going to Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:53:41 Because I know one thing he knows. We can give it a train. He knows if he goes to Chicago. He knows if he goes to Boston. He goes to New York or he goes to L.A. He can recruit better. So what about Chicago? Giddy, Gitty.
Starting point is 00:53:57 Gettie. Gond. Gettie gone. Gond. Gettie gone. So who you going to bring in? I don't do that, then. Jai?
Starting point is 00:54:03 No. You got to remember. So what about Jai? What? What I'm saying is he can recruit any of them guns, all them guns and shit in Chicago. You're going to put him around that. Jai and Yannis in Chicago. There's more Yen's in Chicago than there's Memphis.
Starting point is 00:54:18 That's what that shit really. What about Lamello? Lamello and Yonis in Chicago. I was going to say, I was, Lamello and Yonis in Chicago. It all depends. But I'm saying it's easier for him to recruit in Chicago with the Chicago back in and bag than it is to tell somebody to come down to Milwaukee. I'm just thinking of the guy. We know damn well, if we got that call from Yonness and say, man, I know you're sitting in L.A. right now.
Starting point is 00:54:42 I want to come on down to Milwaukee? Click. Click. You go, click. You go, is it a festival going on? You got a festival going on? You got a charity again? You invite me to do. You got summer fest?
Starting point is 00:54:56 Are you going on? Are you doing it in Chicago or are you doing in Milwaukee? I like, jeez. You know what's so crazy. The drive is only an hour. Yeah. A hour drive is the, like, one. How many players are capable right now in the league that could do what you're saying?
Starting point is 00:55:14 Have that other side of Yannis that can contribute those points and play winning basketball. Is it on, you could. There's one team that can actually. Like five guys, mate? You could throw aunt in there. You know, I thought about Kate too. I thought about Kate, but they would have to break up that team a little. The only team that kid is nice.
Starting point is 00:55:40 I like Hague. Golden State. I just, what I just said? Golden State can actually move pieces. But what are they giving up to get them? They can give up Dremont Green, they can give Kaminga. They can give Kaminga and Pazinsky up. I'm not doing that trade if I'm Milwaukee.
Starting point is 00:55:54 Yeah, that's what I mean. He's not doing that. To Milwaukee, they make a team. Nah. They make a team like the wizards. They be the wizard. So we actually asked to chat, best non-laker landings. Every game, let's go, let's go get that point.
Starting point is 00:56:10 I hope you all didn't put Miami in it. We asked the chat, best non-laker landing spot for Yannis, 30% said the Knicks, 20% said the Warriors, 20% said the first. Oh, the Warriors. I forgot about that one. Him and Steph could play that face. Didn't that deal? I saw them at the party together.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Hope not. We will monitor the Yonis situation. We got a lot more to discuss in the show. So let's keep the thing moving. Bill, what the fuck Spurs, O.K. Z. The nigger is not going to O KC in the burn. So you can run the same offense. God damn.
Starting point is 00:56:40 He's seen what happened to God damn. Y'all don't respect that man. Off the double. He can rock old. He's going to a big market. So I didn't use OKC, nor did I use the other teams. Because he's not going there. All right, well, let's keep this thing moving.
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Starting point is 00:58:08 Google this real quick? Because somebody said I hate Miami. Or refrain. You kind of do it. Can you because nobody wants Miami players? You kind of do. Can you name the best Miami player that's went somewhere else? What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:58:24 In the last five years. Is it Jimmy Butler? Yeah. Who's second? Because Jimmy's we know his resume. Any of Miami people that they done bred and played there and when they moved on because
Starting point is 00:58:40 you know you think they're some hot shit and the first they really paid was Duncan Robinson. Yeah. We've seen them, ooh. I'm just any, just any. I'm saying any Miami. We got one over here.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Sharmour. We got one. So nobody, so nobody wants to trade with Miami, man. Nobody wants those things down there. They ain't got nothing. We don't know.
Starting point is 00:59:03 You got nothing. You're going to sell me some. You're going to trade me some sand? Harold? You're going to take what you? Wet Willie's a coupon because nobody wants to play us. I'm sorry. Don't want to say it.
Starting point is 00:59:16 So we got- Let's keep this thing moving. We got some breaking news coming from the Clippers. Yes, sad. Shocking news, excuse me, that came through last night. It's already broke. But, CP3 and the Clippers cut. And the Clippers cut ties.
Starting point is 00:59:33 12-time All-Star Future Hall of Famer, Chris Paul, was with the team this season of 21st. It was announced that they will be going their separate way. CB3 in the midst of his final season in the league. So the news broke early Wednesday in the wee hours of the night with the Clippers on the road in Atlanta, getting ready to play the Hawks. CP3 posted this story on his Instagram as well around 2.40 a.m. Eastern Time. We have the photo right here. He said, just found out I'm being sent home with the Black Duce's sign.
Starting point is 00:59:59 Paul was the floor general for the Clippers Lobb City era. This was the white deuses? No, I'd like that he actually put the correct amount. This was the seventh overall season with the franchise. He holds several franchise records to help lead the Clippers to six straight playoff appearances from 2011 or 2017. So just hours before this IG story, he put up a post saluting the Lobb City era
Starting point is 01:00:20 and celebrating his time with the franchise. So Clippers' president of basketball ops, Lawrence Frick, released the following statement to talk about them cutting ties of CP3. He said, we are parting ways with Chris, and he will no longer be with the team. We will work with him on the next step of his career. Chris is a legendary clipper who has had a historic career. I want to make one thing very clear. No one has blamed Chris for our underperformance.
Starting point is 01:00:42 I accept responsibility for the record we have right now. There are a lot of reasons why we've struggled. We're grateful for the impact Chris has made on the franchise. So Paul recently announced that this would be his final season in the league before playing his last game in his home state of North Carolina against the Hornets. season has been disappointing for both CP3 and the Clippers. Clippers are up to a 5-and-16 start, second worst record in the West. Oklahoma City owns their draft pick.
Starting point is 01:01:07 CP3 has gotten multiple DMPs of this season. Now, according to Lou Will, CP3 was trying to hold people in the organization accountable from players to coaching staff all the way up to the front office, with the front office criticism being the straw that broke the camel's back. So he's eligible to be traded on December 15th. But obviously, given his age, low output this season, that may prove to be difficult.
Starting point is 01:01:28 But take it to the couch. What's your reaction to the Clippers cutting ties were Chris Ball during his retirement tour? Ah, man. The fact that they didn't wait to, the fact that he did on the road speaks volumes to the turmoil that was going on, right? Merry Christmas.
Starting point is 01:01:52 Yeah, no, I'm saying, but you can't, hey. Man, this is a, niggas, a Merry Christmas. Want to be home? No, it's just, it's unfortunate. We was just on this very couch praising him, giving him his flowers on his career. And less than a week later, days later, yeah, we are here discussing the other side of it. Holding guys accountable is one thing. More teams need it, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:23 How you deliver that message to guys. This is another conversation. We've heard things in the past that Chris Paul has been difficult to play with. Basketball, that is. Yeah, and it's unfortunate that this situation is what it is. And we were talking on this couch about what conversations had beforehand about his production coming into the season, whether he's going to play or not play, whether games, this, that, and the third.
Starting point is 01:02:55 All those things were on the table. But yeah, no, it's been documented from people around in certain situations on the person and the player. So this coming out about him challenging people within coaching staff, players in front office. Yeah, you can do that with your teammates because you're in the locker room with them. You are in, you're there with it. It's not liked, but he's done it before. It's not this first time, right? Speaking from experience, being on the team with you, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:03:34 So this is not nothing that I heard, you know what I'm saying? And for this still to be a thing, not surprised. You questioning management in front of certain people don't sit well with certain guys. We look at Chris Paul maybe as a future coach in the NBA. Not saying I know this for facts, but struggling, thinking of point guard guys that's got done and had a job the next year like Jay Kid. I'm thinking he's of that same caliber of brain. That's what he's thinking.
Starting point is 01:04:23 They're not winning. you over there kicking T. Lou back in. So reports are that him and Ty Lou haven't spoken for weeks, according to the report. I can do that shit. If I was sitting in that chair of shit, we wouldn't be, if I was doing this, we would be, if I was. You always do that sneaky shit. It's been looking at Chris Paul as a politician. And you know people don't trust politicians.
Starting point is 01:04:50 So. That's my two-cent. Okay. Shift over. Shot, what do you think about Clippers cutting ties with Chris Paul during his retirement tour? Obviously, Chris Paul arguably one of the greatest players in franchise history, if not the greatest. I think when you don't mind being that guy. Which guy that is?
Starting point is 01:05:14 The guy that will tell it how it is, tell how I see it. There are certain things that need to be corrected, certain things need to be said, certain things need to be heard. A lot of people don't be liking to hear, especially when you're already at 5 and 16 or some shit like that, right? That they all. I don't want his back kicked in. Turn around to the front. I kick in your chest, nigger. Which one you want?
Starting point is 01:05:42 I'll kick in your ass, kick in your chest. I'm not you with somebody else. I'm just saying, like, what the fuck? We need accountability. I think Chris Powell is one of those guys who's proven over the years. I'm going to say, I get it. But it ain't about your feelings Put your feelings in your
Starting point is 01:05:57 motherfucking pocket Yes So listen T-Loo Hey Put that shit back on the screen Put that shit back on the screen I'm gonna tell you what I'm gonna tell you
Starting point is 01:06:09 What happened Can't go behind people back Yeah we get it He's done that type of shit Yeah yeah He's sneaky He's a cross-snatching He's still he still shit
Starting point is 01:06:17 No no no Look what it says No we didn't ask What it say after that Underperformance What that says? What's that first letter say? I accept.
Starting point is 01:06:29 Don't say we. I accept responsibility. Who wrote that shit? Lawrence Frank. Lawrence Frank. It's a personal situation. Somebody got blamed for some bullshit and didn't like it. Lawrence.
Starting point is 01:06:44 You've been doing bullshit your whole motherfucker career, Lawrence? Now you don't want to hear what the fuck the, what we see now? We've been here for this long. on wind in shit with what we got you got somebody coming in here like listen we went further than y'all motherfuckers with lob city about that what's the fuck y'all over here doing y'all got more talent do it got more talent than we got why we ain't doing this why y'all ain't doing this ways to go in no why you ain't doing this hey what did they say is the kids league or it's the man's league is it a kids league or a man's league kids league it's hate the ways too yeah what you're doing
Starting point is 01:07:23 What do you do with haters? Do you listen to him and you cry? You tell him to stop talking or you just... You shouldn't let it get to you. You ain't got no haters, Gene. If you ain't helping, he ain't doing it, right? He ain't popping. Try to get 15 by this time.
Starting point is 01:07:36 So I think Chris did what he posted do on his way out. Let's just say if Chris had 10 more years, Chris, you tripping. But you're on your way out, and we 5 and 16, and this nigga T. And this nigga, T. Lou ain't talking to me. Hey, check this out. We already in Charlotte. Name some of us. Superstar, I got down.
Starting point is 01:07:55 You're going to send me home? I'm trying to force their hands. It's an early Christmas for me. It did seem peculiar to that there, because we knew it was probably going to be his last season, but to come out of the announcement. Yeah, forcing their hand, bro. Listen, that shit is so calculated, bro.
Starting point is 01:08:07 Listen, one thing we know Chris Paul is a smart individual. The shit was calculated. He said enough shit to get his ass kicked off that team. Shit was calculated, dog. So what everybody wanted to say is just what it is, man. It's a hell of a basketball player. tough to be teammates with at times right i think like i said there's nothing wrong to hold the guys accountable right just thinking clippers right nothing wrong with it and nothing wrong
Starting point is 01:08:34 to hold your teammates accountable want to get the best out of guys but no no no not you're going about it though don't hold me accountable if you can't do it no more i was okay i was going to get to it and coming from the 40 year old motherfuckers over there like no i think he abuses his his power what i'm saying is if you if you were if you was who you were when you were younger and you was the all NBA player and you was the top five or top one point guard or whatever that was your resume yeah you 40 years old is your last year shut the fuck up exactly sit down there enjoy yeah don't come in here tell me shit yeah exactly don't tell me nothing i don't want to hear about nothing you had going on 57 years ago
Starting point is 01:09:15 okay right and i'm not i'm just that's just the way it is if you if who you are is Chris paul we We know with the demand. We don't need that right here. That's not our personalities. Don't talk to us like that. And we lose you too. Relax. Understand.
Starting point is 01:09:32 This is your last year. Go out there. Wave, do your day. Because that's what you deserve. Fighting with me every day? Nah, no, no, that's not what we're going to happen. So the fact that you have him and they put it up there again. Can we put the statement back up with it?
Starting point is 01:09:47 A lot of reasons. There's a lot of reasons. Where was that? Where was that? He is a, what, historic career. So the fact that he's there, with his career there, what he did for the city there, and they're sending them home,
Starting point is 01:10:05 do you know how bad it must have been? Yeah, that's what I'm going to say. Because that means they know the backlash then. They know everybody's about to be there. Oh, hell no. So the fact that they were willing to say, hey, enough is enough. God damn.
Starting point is 01:10:19 This is not the first time the Clippers have done this, though. No, no, no. Yeah, like, you can watch out. What we're saying. Get off that banana. It has to be rough in it. Y'all go all of a sudden start winning some games out. No, no matter.
Starting point is 01:10:30 Listen, we can do this. It ain't about winning. It's not what was Chris doing, though? Hey, listen, we're not doing this. We need to change what you're doing. We don't want to hear your mind. Y'all don't want to hear it? No.
Starting point is 01:10:45 Why? That's why we losing. And that's why we're losing. That's why we knew. And that's why he never won. So this is why he didn't. With LeBron James. Let's change Chris Paul with the Brian James.
Starting point is 01:10:55 Four-time champion, four-time NBA. Are we saying the same shit of LeBron saying the shit? No, we're going to keep it to Chris Paul. Let's say it. Right. This is about respect for a player who's 40-something years old, and hey, you ain't doing it. It's how you rubbed people wrong over here.
Starting point is 01:11:14 It's about telling the truth, no. Tell the truth. It only happened to him about it. But it only happened to him. No. Truth is the truth. Who? Chris Paul.
Starting point is 01:11:23 How are you going about it? Truth is the truth. It's how you handle the truth. It's how you handle the truth. Listen. Can you handle the truth? You can handle the truth. Well, let me tell you what I heard in therapy, right?
Starting point is 01:11:36 When you're dealing with people, right? The way is delivered, nigger, matters. Who you delivered it to matters. Why? Because they have emotions. Because these why? Because everybody there's, everybody, everybody has emotions. Everybody has emotion.
Starting point is 01:11:54 Everything on dealing with them people? Everybody got a deal with people's emotional. Right, everybody has emotion. Business don't got no emotion. What this is. Yes, they do. That's why they fired his act. It ain't no emotions in that we're going to let you go.
Starting point is 01:12:08 It was emotion. I'm pointing out the truth. Y'all in here can't handle the truth because the truth got us five and 16. Just the person, man. No, man, you're abusing your power. I ain't got no power I just got here
Starting point is 01:12:21 Let me tell you this That's why we understand Why you're talking James is saying the same shit And behaving the same way That Chris Paul was doing This thing and the third Holding people accountable
Starting point is 01:12:30 This thing and third We still going to average 25, 7 and 7 and 7 It's going to land different It would be 16 and 5 Instead of 5 and 16 That's what would be
Starting point is 01:12:37 Landing different We would be winning But James ain't holding Nobody accountable You ain't either Shooting 32% I'm barely playing Because my coach mad at me
Starting point is 01:12:47 Because my coach mad at me Because my coach mad at me No, yes, because we ain't talking. He ain't talked to me in week. You know what that means? You know what that means? You're walking past me in the locker room. Five DMP.
Starting point is 01:13:01 Five D&P. Why, no, no, no. Like Paul Pierce, I didn't, sit there just a mile away. Y'all know. You ain't talked to me in weeks. Yeah. Why? Why?
Starting point is 01:13:14 Why? I'm telling you why. Hey, man. What we're doing out here? What are you doing out here? What are you doing out here? I'm on the bench. You ain't getting you playing me.
Starting point is 01:13:24 I'm watching. I'm watching. He's played 16 games. I'm watching. I'm watching. Out of 16 games, 14 games has been negative. You know why? He's a 40-year-old point guard in a league.
Starting point is 01:13:38 That's y'all sign. And they're all signed. What did I say that other day? I don't want to hear the excuse of me being 40 and you signed. What did I say that today? The conversation should have been had with you were going to play a player. A farewell. A farewell.
Starting point is 01:13:51 A farewell. A farewell. Ain't no farewell. It is. You ain't playing me. Ain't no farewell, nigger. But this Clippers paid payment of the season with expectations of actually being good. They were wrong.
Starting point is 01:14:03 You said Chris Wong played. How many games? They weren't going to no play long? They played 16 games. No playoff. It was listening to Kobe. Kobe coming there and he say what he's saying. Ain't nobody in their life, man,
Starting point is 01:14:16 Cobb need to shut up and sit down. Yeah, what? I'm sure they were. Yeah, he's. Nika, what? Excuse me? What does Kobe have? What does Kobe have that?
Starting point is 01:14:24 Chris Fahder than. Oh, he was never the 13th man. Kobe had 15th man. Hey, he had them big ass being nice. Come in there. Hey, y'all niggins better. Shut up. I walk in here.
Starting point is 01:14:35 Gil, I was being nice. I said, like, there's a difference between COVID. When Kobe was there, who was on that team that had authority? Nobody. Nobody. There's two, there's two prime stars on this team. There's a Kaui Litter in the James.
Starting point is 01:14:48 Neither one of them talk. It don't matter. We don't want you to talk, dog. They're mine. But I'm the talker. I'm the leader. I'm the point. I'm the Hall of Famer.
Starting point is 01:14:57 You're not the whole. I'm the only one that y'all should be listening. Because you're a 40-year-old man. You know what niggas need to do at that age. You know what I do. Go complain to your wife. She's the only one want to hear. Y'all tripping.
Starting point is 01:15:10 Go complain to your wife because she's the only one want to hear. So she's the only one that give a fuck. What was the point of having you Donat-Hasm? Your wife's the only one that give a fuck. Go complain. hurt. What was the point to have you D on the bench? We got your point. I'm asking. Now, can you hear something? He's a 40-year-old point guard that wasn't
Starting point is 01:15:26 fast or quick when he was 19 and 20. Who the fuck is he guarding in today's NBA at that position? Who the fuck is Chris Dunn guarding? Who the fuck is his replacement guarding? We're still 5 and 16. It don't change shit, whether I'm 40 or 19. We are not doing shit and shit is not being addressed
Starting point is 01:15:49 and when I come in here and address it everybody feels some type of way because we didn't want to talk about it. Me putting the coat down and everybody else down going to make everything change. Right. Everything I come here. It says it's not about the record. Did you see that? We're not blaming him for the fact that he had to say that.
Starting point is 01:16:05 We're not. The man who is because you hate blame him for the record. Of course not. Because you got other superstars not doing their job. You got other superstars not doing their job. playing 14 minutes a game. Kauai Leonard came in there and said,
Starting point is 01:16:21 what about the team? We don't got enough, what? Talent, I believe, is what he said, shot. Nick, I'm asking you a question. We and you agree with me and you. What was he doing? But he spoke up. But was he holding anybody specifically accountable?
Starting point is 01:16:34 Did he call anybody out? Not on that one. No. Did James Harden say anything about, hey, man, we need to who-woo-do this better? No. Guess what Chris Paul not doing publicly, but it's probably doing it.
Starting point is 01:16:47 Internally. Guess what? Mm-hmm. And it's who is coming from, bro. Mm-hmm. Trust me. You don't like the messenger. He telling Kauai Litter.
Starting point is 01:16:55 No, he's telling Kauai Litter. I said you tell Kauai Litter. He's pulled. He ain't won this. Is he a finals MVP? What's your feeling? Two-time. Two-time.
Starting point is 01:17:08 They did. What the fuck this is all going to tell Kauai? Hey. Please tell me. Make that. If you ain't never won the motherfuck and I won it two times finals Hey, listen.
Starting point is 01:17:18 Watch them. Watch them. Watch them. Watch them. Watch that dirt off your hands. They can't talk to me. You don't be stretching enough. Get out of here.
Starting point is 01:17:26 You can't even play back to back. Stretch a little more. Can we try it again? You wasn't fast or quick in your 20s. You're 40 now playing against speed demons. You know that. Right? They made a statement because they didn't want people like you to confuse the record with why we're doing this.
Starting point is 01:17:46 They let you know this ain't. about the record. This is about him and who he is. So you want to hold people accountable and people are looking at your play. Are you holding yourself accountable? Because you're getting out there
Starting point is 01:18:01 and you're ass right now. But you want to sit here and yell at us but you have a performance too. You can't stay in front of your man. Obviously we know that because you're an older guy. We get it. Now can you just relax? Enjoy your year. If we suck, we suck.
Starting point is 01:18:17 But we don't need you coming in here telling us who the fuck we are. And you're just here with us. Okay. Okay. This is a very different situation. You're not Chris Paul, averaging 21 and 12 killing the league. Right now you're being killed and you need to just relax because we're trying to figure this shit out of ourselves. We don't need the coach in the locker room.
Starting point is 01:18:41 So we don't need to be demonized by the motherfucker. We don't need a teammate. We don't need you. No, we don't need you. Why did you bring me on the team? So you can help you out? Why did you bring me on the team? It made those hands.
Starting point is 01:18:54 So if he was a coach, he wouldn't be able to do the same thing he's doing? No. So you can Paul Pearson. I'm asking if he is Adrian Griffin. No. The reason he got fired was because he was holding his players accountable. You weren't playing with the. Now, I'm playing with you.
Starting point is 01:19:11 I'm playing with you. Now, your excuse is because I'm not fast or quick. Or not good anymore. We're not good anymore. You sign me to a contract to be on the niggins team. Yeah. To shut the fuck up. Hey, guess what I'm not going to do?
Starting point is 01:19:25 Yes, what? I'm not going to shut the fuck up. Okay. Guess what you got to. Hey, hey, hey, hey, let me say, what we're going to do. You're going to lose. You're going to lose. You're going to lose.
Starting point is 01:19:38 You're going to lose in peace than losing your shit. I'm still going to be all the fan, man. It's going to change nothing on my side. It's going to change everything on y'all up, y'all. It's going to change. It's going to change. It's fucked up your first one tour.
Starting point is 01:19:56 No, it don't. I still go to every city. It's though up. Hey, what's up? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you show up, every city.
Starting point is 01:20:04 Hey, they're going to be like, if you saw, if you saw it at every arena like that, it don't matter. I feel me. It don't change me. Listen, y'all are bugging. They're bugging. Y'all bugging.
Starting point is 01:20:16 My guy can tell you. Y'all bugging. He wouldn't go, Hey, he wouldn't go to say it to get his ring him. That's a shit. All I got to tell me. And y'all don't like the kind of business. You're right.
Starting point is 01:20:25 All you got to tell me that's all. That's all. Everybody is disfigurelius. If you said a nigga come in and tell you how it is and you don't like the way he's saying it. Yeah, I don't like the way. Yeah, I don't like your tone. Get the fuck out of here. Man, that's some whole shit.
Starting point is 01:20:41 Okay. That's some whole shit. Okay. Hey, hey, you got to tell me better. Hey, you know, let me get this. I got what I said. I said. I got one for you.
Starting point is 01:20:50 Either you like it or you don't, step up. And I got one for you, right? And get out. Who do you think did it, man? Who do you think was Chris Paul on my fucking Nuggets team? Who you think was the Chris Paul? Who you think did that things on the teams I was on? I wasn't there.
Starting point is 01:21:02 I did, nigga. So you think my tone and shit didn't matter when I did it? Did you change your tone? When you got to New York? No. No. Or when you got the, when you got the buck. When you got the bucks, what did you do?
Starting point is 01:21:15 Did you change your tone? He studied what it is. No, in Denver. Did you change your tone in Denver? No, we're not going to Denver. We're not going to Denver. We're not going to go to go. We're going to move to go.
Starting point is 01:21:27 He said in Denver. We're going to move to go. We're not going to come on. You. Wait, that's what he just said. He don't let him talk. He don't let nobody talk to New York. So you're going to, so you want to tell him.
Starting point is 01:21:41 But you said in Denver. Did you experience or did I? You said in Denver. And I'm fin to tell you, so can I finish my fucking statement before I cut the fuck off? Let's see you change it. When I'm in Denver, I'm that guy. Right? What's that guy mean?
Starting point is 01:21:53 Nigger, get your shit together, put your feelings in your pocket. I went to the motherfucking nix. Guess what I did? You wasn't Kenya no more? Tyson, you got it. Damn. You let Tyson have me? Milwaukee.
Starting point is 01:22:06 Oh, I didn't say a motherfucking thing. Damn. Did y'all win? I went right there. Did y'all win? Did you go and go and a lower and you? It don't matter. You got to play your room.
Starting point is 01:22:15 Hey, but Kenyon, why you do that, though? Because it ain't my place no more for you to be in a road. When I'm making STEM team and I'm doing- talk about leadership, can we talk about leadership? And that vocal guy? Niggo, I'm making one-point-five over this motherfucker, but you're still being vocal. You're not pulling in your phone.
Starting point is 01:22:34 Hey, y'allel, you can't do that? Can I take my friend? Hold on, let me tell you what it is. I got this. He hasn't got me walking, right? You know what I did? No, real shit, you know what I did? But we're having a motherfucking meeting, they're not paying attention in the meeting.
Starting point is 01:22:49 I scold niggas in the meeting with NBA people there. Y'all, young niggins need to pay attention. Y'all don't know shit. Y'all need to do this, thing, they're there. They complain in the locker and what I go do. I don't say nothing. I go to Jay Kidd. He's the head coach.
Starting point is 01:23:02 Hey, Jay Kidd, you got a problem in your locker room. You need to figure it out. I don't go in that motherfucker. Listen, man, Sugginson. So, Yonis ain't happy with you. Okay, you said. Wait, Nick. He just said he went to Jake here, right?
Starting point is 01:23:14 Listen, you got a problem in your locker room. Guess who wasn't talking for weeks? You got a part of your locker room. Listen, you got a problem in your locker room. Listen, you got a problem in your locker room. T-Loo and Chris Paul not talking for weeks. You know why? Don't matter.
Starting point is 01:23:27 Guess it does. You got to go to say key. No, because you got to go to him. Because if I would have came in there being how I was in New York, I mean, in Denver, with the, listen. But all the shit that I was saying the niggas in Denver, by not playing hard, by not defending, by not boxing out. cussing George out, cussing the train out, cussing this motherfucker out, half this say about the GM, this thing ain't doing
Starting point is 01:23:50 their job, my tape too tight, the ice ain't cold enough, the water ain't warm enough, bitching complaining about everything because I can. Because you can, because you are the man. I'm making 17 million a year, 18 million. I feel like I can do that.
Starting point is 01:24:07 I'm making 1.5 at the tail end of this shit. When I sign late, I ain't got shit to say. When I got to the I got signed late. I was happy we had a nigga like Tyson over that motherfuckers. I was like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:20 Did Tyson say something? Yes. Tyson said something. I didn't have to. So Tyson, so who's saying something to the clip? So who's saying something for the clip? You know what they say something to him about him? Y'all making this a, y'all making this a difficult thing.
Starting point is 01:24:36 You don't know what leadership is. Y'all making this a difficult thing. Leadership don't mean therapy. Leadership don't mean care. Yes, it does. Yes, it does. No, it does. Yes, it does.
Starting point is 01:24:46 We know. We know that vanguard, he said, leadership is lonely. Don't make you say his name. Don't make you say his name. He said, no, it's a very lonely thing. I hope you do. I don't come in here. I don't come in here to pay it to your opinions.
Starting point is 01:25:02 Say it. But he does cater to that. No, no. But he does want it to people. When Gilbert is around you. Who said it? It's lonely. When you are the man up here.
Starting point is 01:25:11 It's lonely. Now, who, if you the man, down here, lower your motherfucking toe. I'm not the man down here. I'm still a Hall of Famer, niggas. Stop put some fuck right now. Put some respect on my name. I'm the only one that can come in here and tell you
Starting point is 01:25:27 can what you're not going. I'm saying. I'm saying. Are you not going to listen to Russell Wendrizzell? No, bro. No. No. But they do.
Starting point is 01:25:38 What happens to Westbrook? What they do? But what they do? Listen to him. So we can. But what happened? What happened to Westbrook and different? They do.
Starting point is 01:25:45 Okay. That ain't what happened. It wasn't, oh, Russ is saying too much. Every single teammates say, I love Russ. But what did the organization say? Fuck their organization. It's the teammates. They're putting it on the teammates and everybody.
Starting point is 01:25:57 It's Lawrence Frank. Fuck the organization. It's Lawrence Frank. So who else going to make the statement? The teammates ain't saying shit. I ain't seen no motherfucking reports from the teammates saying Chris Paul is this, this, isn't that? I'm saying, I ain't heard shit.
Starting point is 01:26:10 As a leader, you just, we don't say. I know. I can tell you 100% this is a fact. And I can back it up 100%. And why did Lou Will say? Lou Will with with sourceable. 100%. Sourceable information.
Starting point is 01:26:26 And I'm saying sourceable information without dropping no niggas names. 100%. You got to drop the names you're giving us sourceable information? No, I do not. Is that sourceable information? 100%. They don't want to hear that shit at your age. You can't do what you used to do.
Starting point is 01:26:41 Not being a leader is breaking a person down. No, I told, what's the point of a bet? What has been a letter? What's the point of a bet? I told me, a big leader is breaking everybody down. Accountability, Nick. But don't you know. Accountability.
Starting point is 01:26:55 We got to be able to talk to different. Sorry. Listen, no, you don't. Nigas. So just feel your motherfuckers, tell them what they do wrong. Did you know Chris ain't screaming at nobody, nigger? Stop playing. Y'all don't know what they're running with this.
Starting point is 01:27:09 You know what accountability is. Demential question. Hey, Nick, pass the balls, swing, no, fuck that. Nick, all that shit and shooting and turning around. I was there for a 60-point game at the end. So guess what? He didn't come to no practices. Come on, man.
Starting point is 01:27:23 We're speaking facts on the count of this. We're talking about the person, right? Right, right. Y'all plan. Somebody who got personal experience in this situation dealing with the person, right? Man. Win a pick and roll coverage. Who's supposed to call the coverage out?
Starting point is 01:27:37 Big man. I'm asking, no. Oh, shh, okay. No, I don't know shit, King. I don't know shit. I don't know shit. Who's supposed to call it? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:27:47 No, I don't know. Move on. The big man. Pick and roll coverage. Who's supposed to call the coverage? The big man. I call the coverage out. There's a timeout.
Starting point is 01:27:56 He turned, get screened, and come over to upset. That ain't the coverage I called. He'd come out his mouth sideways because you wrong. I'm not him for you to think you're going to talk crazy to when you're dead fucking wrong. I beat you up on this bench, nigga. Is that what you're telling you? Straight the fuck up. Okay.
Starting point is 01:28:21 I will beat you to fuck up. I got more games played than you, more expensive. This is when we were the clippers at the time, which was factual. More games played, more playoff games played, more experience, this, all of these things. Now he wanted to see. Vinny come over there trying to intervene. Shut the fuck up. This ain't got nothing to do with you.
Starting point is 01:28:38 back to you, nigga. Vinnie the Black. I am not him. I told him, you're not smarter than me out here. You don't know more to me. I call the coverage out, nigga. You're supposed to do what the fuck I say. Point blank, period.
Starting point is 01:28:51 The person thinks he's fucking right in every situation thinking, talk to people crazy. And you can't treat everybody the same, man. And this is Chris Paul at his peak. You can't talk and treat everybody the same, dog. Everybody don't go for it. I'm not.
Starting point is 01:29:08 him. Other people went for it. I see you going certain situations. I'm peeping. I'm not him to go for it. Other dudes went for it. They needed that. At that junction of my career, I was good. How did he handle that exchange with you though? He bowed down. Okay. Because he's like, but with the sarcasmus and shit, yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right, you got more, you, you're fucking right. I'm right, nigga. And I will still beat you to fuck up. A good exclamation point in the combo. Fast forward. He having conversations about me with people that he don't know I know. Talking bad about the nigga.
Starting point is 01:29:43 It gets back to me. I approach you. You can't do that. You can't, by the point I mean, you can't treat everybody the same. At this junction of your career, where you are, you have to humble yourself and be a leader.
Starting point is 01:30:00 You can still be holding people accountable, but that's how you're going about it. You can still be the same vocal leader that you have been, you can still be and all that, you can be at this juncture, 40 years old when you're on, it's declined
Starting point is 01:30:17 that's happened. You can't treat people that way and be doing these things, though. You cannot. So what do we know? What do we know that? Listen, this is from experience. I had an opportunity to go join the Golden State Warriors. You know what they told me?
Starting point is 01:30:34 Kenyon, we're afraid of what you're going to do in the locker. What you're going to say in the locker? This is real shit. How long goes that game? Towards the end. Okay, because all things can sit there. Yeah, it's towards the end, you know what I'm saying? No, it was towards the end, but they, we're afraid of what you, how you're going to be in the locker
Starting point is 01:30:48 around the young guys. This is a real fucking thing. I knew, realize then, like, I got to shut the fuck up. I can't be this person anymore. I'm not playing at this level. I got to shut the fuck up, which is, when we're not winning and we're in a fucked up situation, you don't think that I'm the first. that I'm the first one to tell you put your feelings in your pocket and shut
Starting point is 01:31:09 I'm him but if I'm not contributing and being who I have I shut the fuck up yes it's hard you got to learn who you dealing with you got to learn the room and you got to read the room obviously that the room didn't matter to Chris Paul and we are where we are right now with him unfortunately a great coach and a great leader of a team understands how to get all of the tribe to the goal. So this person might like the way you talk to them aggressively.
Starting point is 01:31:45 This person might need to be babysitting. As a leader, you're supposed to know how to leave them all. That is your job as a leader. We're going to this, and I have to be able to get everybody to get there. I might be like, yo, you ain't moving faster enough. Get your ass on. And he's like, all right, all right, and go. This person, I might need to walk with him for a couple miles for him to get his confidence.
Starting point is 01:32:16 But that's who you are as a leader. We can see, Shea, he has every single one of those guys on the same accord. Right? A real leader has that. There's no breakage in that. So if you are a player, and I know Chris Paul, that's one of my friends. I play with us, our son's just, I know, I know the fierceness in you. So I know what you bring.
Starting point is 01:32:45 You can't bring that now because you can't change the game no more. So when you're sitting there, they're like, oh, y'all don't want to fuck, you pick somebody up full court, you're doing this, you get, you led by example, then your words follow. Right now, it's your words is all we hear. We don't want to hear them. if we can't follow your lead because you can't lead no more so now you're just the old dude
Starting point is 01:33:11 at the end of the bench yelling at everybody so we're like yo hey hey yo come get dude he's tripping somebody come get your man who's man's his man who's and that's what this was so who's the leader
Starting point is 01:33:24 so who's the leader don't matter that's irrelevant no no no it's not irrelevant don't just say all that shit and saying who's the leader who's the leader who's the leader that's supposed to be doing what Chris y'all telling Chris not to do.
Starting point is 01:33:38 Brooke Lopez. Listen, I hear you want to deflect it. You like deflected. Take a drink of your wine. All right? Take a drink. You're being a wine, though, right now. Are you drunk or are you talking to me?
Starting point is 01:33:49 Brooke Lopez. Who is the leader? You're right. Brooke. So, Brooke, are we listening to Brooke? Hey, maybe. Is Brooke saying the things that Chris Paul is saying? Come on, you a bitch, what, what, is he saying,
Starting point is 01:34:03 hey, y'all need to get here and do you. do these things and do this faster. All the things, y'all just said, Chris, you shouldn't say it because you can't do it. So tell me who the leader is. That's saying it. Not you. So don't say. Okay, that's a great answer. There's a great
Starting point is 01:34:18 There are two other players, two other players on the team that can do what Chris Paul can't do. So you want us to say, Kauai and James. So who is the leader? I gave you. We don't know. We don't know. Good Glopes ain't saying what Chris Paul been saying. How do you know Chris Paul? How do you know Chris Paul been saying everything that he is supposed to know what Chris Paul been saying
Starting point is 01:34:38 because we told you all motherfuckers is tripping they got him sit home I just don't want to have real conversation on man we put the quarterback up please when you get up how about this no we know who not the leader is we don't know who the leader is but we know who they don't want we know it ain't we know it ain't the coach okay cool we know it ain't the coach okay cool what do you mean Cool. They can't send them home. What do you mean, cool? They can't send them home.
Starting point is 01:35:06 Yes, they can. What are you talking about? Did they? What are the fact? You want to be the leader. We're saying no. Who is the leader? You're not saying who the leader is.
Starting point is 01:35:19 I'm not the leader. Why am I the only one saying this? It doesn't matter. We don't listen to you. Why am I the only one saying? We don't want to listen to you. Because the leader is not saying anything. Have you noticed?
Starting point is 01:35:30 You're missing the point. You don't want to listen to that. You want to be the leader? What's the fuck are y'all talking about, man? We don't want your mouth. You can't even tell me who the leader is. We don't want your leadership. You can't tell me who the leader is.
Starting point is 01:35:40 It does matter. It don't matter. Yes, it does. We don't want your trust. Because we want to hear from the leader. We want to hear from the leader. Why is the leader not talking? Who is the leader?
Starting point is 01:35:51 Exactly. Who is the leader? Do you know? He just asked me the question. Do you know? I've been asking for five minutes. We all. I asked your question.
Starting point is 01:35:57 So we're asking you. I asked your question. I'm asking you. Right. So we're asking you. Who is the leader? Chris Paul's a leader. He's not a leader.
Starting point is 01:36:04 No, he's not. He's not. He's not a leader. He's not a leader. He's not. Let me hear ya. Let me hear ya. He's a leader, but he's not.
Starting point is 01:36:13 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. He's what? He was a leader. He's not a leader here. You know what that's all? Not here. That's called full circle. That's called full.
Starting point is 01:36:24 I argue you niggas around and go prove the point. Exactly what I wanted to do to say. We're not. What's not. either year. Dirk last year, who was the leader of that team? Luca.
Starting point is 01:36:40 Wasn't him? He had to sit there, shut the fuck up. In Derman. He has a trophy, but he knew his role at that moment in time. If you're going to talk to me as a player,
Starting point is 01:36:54 please come gentle or whatever. Whatever my vibe is. I said, whatever my vibe is. Like I said, come gentle. You are a half-jerkens. You are a has-been player. I'm a half-been player. Wow.
Starting point is 01:37:10 You are a leader in your team. You're not a leader here, so you think you're going to come over here and stump your feet on my territory playing 10 minutes talking to me like I'm a dog. All right. It was probably, James. I got to. I, you know.
Starting point is 01:37:26 I can tell you this one thing we do know is. What niggas said. Bejj. How bad you have to be as a leader if they sent the leader home on the road? Can I ask you that? If he was the leader, how bad did it have to be if they sent them home on the road? It has to be five and 16 bad. It has to be five and 16 bad.
Starting point is 01:37:43 It has to be a tree planting scandal bad. It has to be, man, we don't know what the fuck we're going to do next year bad. It has to be somebody said on the media circuit, Kauai Lina was the worst free agent signing in the history of the NBA bad. It has to be some type of reflex. It has to be, when are we going to win the championship we invested in for the last six years bad? That's what it got to be. Nah.
Starting point is 01:38:07 No. Old man had too much one. You have his three points. Why does it always got to be on somebody else? It could just be, it's on him. All of that. Everything he just said, cool, right? Cool means you're right.
Starting point is 01:38:19 Cool means you're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. We don't know what you're saying. Hey, no, no, guess what, Richard. You're right. And guess what's that?
Starting point is 01:38:27 He still went home. He still went home. You're still losing. And you're still losing. And we were losing. That means you're ignoring the accountability. You're ignoring everything I'm trying to tell y'all. I don't think he read this right.
Starting point is 01:38:38 Let's try. You're right. Wait if you're ready. Once again. Let's try it. Let's try it again. He plays 10 minutes. 14 minutes again.
Starting point is 01:38:47 He averages two points. And they wrote in a statement to the world. No one is blaming Chris for our underperformance. Meaning he has nothing to do with our record we don't want him here and we don't want it to get confusing that you think we're looking to bring somebody else in to help us win no no no no no we just want to part ways because we think it's best for both of us so again how bad does it have to be for us to send a guy home who is the 15th man averaging three answer that for yourself Okay, I answer. I'm looking at the man in the mirror. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:34 He is. He's looking at the man in the mirror. That's bad. That was legally safe. That is exactly. Keep singing. Come on. No, no, good.
Starting point is 01:39:43 They're not. Looking at the mirror. Yeah. Seven seconds or less. Then the clippers ain't looking themselves in the mirror. No, no, no. No, no. Team, man.
Starting point is 01:39:53 Team. No, I said what I said. Say it. You don't tell me what I'm saying. You don't tell me what I'm saying. You don't tell me what I'm saying. Man in the mirror, Clippers, y'all going to look y'all's up in the mirror. Regardless if Chris Paul there or not, y'all don't win another five more games, ten more games.
Starting point is 01:40:10 You can't sit there and blame someone else. No, they're not blaming him. Obviously, because it ain't his fucking fault. They're five and 16. They ain't. They're saying it. It ain't. Obviously.
Starting point is 01:40:21 They don't like the accountability. They don't like what they're saying. We don't care about the wins and losses. We don't want to hear while we trash. No, no, no, no, we don't want to hear while we track. We don't care that we're trying. We don't want to hear. We just want him out.
Starting point is 01:40:36 Everybody get a hell of time. Everybody get hell of him. We don't want to hear while we track. Everybody get hell of the rest of the season. They're cool. We don't want to hear. Everybody else. While we are trash.
Starting point is 01:40:48 That's what we're saying. No, we're not saying that, Nick. Do you wait it all that time to say that? I don't like it. Yeah, I mean, that's what it's not like. Yeah, I mean, I mean, I mean, that's what it's That's what it said. Y'all ain't listening.
Starting point is 01:41:00 No, you just talking. You just talk to fuck. Y'all niggas not listening. We hear you. Hey, they're just talking. Just talking. That's all. Shit.
Starting point is 01:41:08 What are y'all going? They're going somewhere. Like, we hear you. I can tell you. I didn't tell you. Emotional baggage. Everybody has emotional baggage. I got to check my tone when I talk to you,
Starting point is 01:41:20 niggas, huh? No. Be gentle. Be gentle. We don't think you're just a leader. I know. I know. Man, you set yourself up.
Starting point is 01:41:30 There, you heard of up. For what? There it is. I said myself up for what? Woo. He knows them too. Man, hey, is it obvious? So, Rashad, we actually did ask the chat, is it obvious 16 minutes ago, over 3,200 votes.
Starting point is 01:41:45 78% of the chat. Y'all niggas is not ever going to be me. Wait, wait, is it obvious? What? You will never know what is obvious about, nigga. You will never know. You ain't a part of that club to know what 78% in the fucking chat agree with. I don't.
Starting point is 01:42:00 You will never fucking know. You niggins are cooked. Every single conversation, cook. I have never lost the chat. Is it obvious? Hey, put Chris Paul face in the chat. 100%. No two.
Starting point is 01:42:13 Hey, stop laughing over there. That shit is not funny, okay? 100%. I'm going into stand-up comedy. They didn't care about no 5 and 16. They wanted his ass gone after the eighth game, but they were scared because they were. They didn't want the backlash.
Starting point is 01:42:27 Yes. So eight games into the season, they didn't want them a part of the season. So 13 games later that. You know how bad your energy is? What was their record? Eight games into the season. What was that record? That's what was they're getting the D&P?
Starting point is 01:42:41 When they said it, when they had it, two and six, eight games. No, they were like that thing, they started out. They were four and four, right? That means every time he walked in, everybody. No, that's exactly. Every time he walked in, what do you think? 78 percent is fast. Here this thing is.
Starting point is 01:42:56 I'm like, here he comes. 78. 78%? 3 and 5 after the first age. That's incredible. It's four on one. Wait, while he talking, just walking it out? It's four on one.
Starting point is 01:43:08 I'm at 78%. Trust me. If he was on the team talking like this, where's ass would have been? Out of the league in four years. Out of the league in four years. Out of the league and four years. I was out of the league. I was out of the league in four years.
Starting point is 01:43:28 I would have had you out four days. Yeah, that's cool. Because we know you don't want accountability. You don't want to hear that shit. Tom Tipido. Four hours. He doesn't matter. Who?
Starting point is 01:43:38 Tom, Tipido. Four hours. Get that motherfucker. 78 percent. What you do? What you do? What you do? Two hour practice?
Starting point is 01:43:47 You know, hour drive. As you know, I'm permanently new. Hour setting up the practice. He said, if an hour set up the practice, worked for two hours. God damn. Get the fuck on out of here. We don't need you.
Starting point is 01:43:56 services. Because, again, if you ain't him no more, Laura, your motherfucking, if these your player, the star player, he can go over
Starting point is 01:44:10 there. Listen, he can go over there with y'all. You see, hey, I'm going to tell you right now, I'm going to tell you a veteran who's 40-year-old, who's smart as a motherfucker right now. Is that sitting there? I know who you're talking about. It don't matter who the fuck he's talking about all of them.
Starting point is 01:44:28 78% Niggins, I'm wrong, 178% Hey, so how you dealing, Dylan? Y'all good, family, you know? Oh, I didn't have, like, no. Y'all good? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah, I'm just chilling, gonna see it.
Starting point is 01:44:41 The young nigga gonna pass me, ball. I can't see, I yell at that motherfucker lit the way, I'm probably being, let the way. All right? Slovenian. So I'm just going to sit here. Sit here. See my staff.
Starting point is 01:44:52 I'm going to get this in, though. You see, Bray. And I'm the joke. And brawn right now, you can tell people to shut the fuck. You see his ass over there, quiet in the mother. Austin Reeves out there with the motherfucking turbo button on. You know what I had to. Braun over here like, hey, Braun over here like, you know I had to opt in to this country.
Starting point is 01:45:12 Yeah, the opposite to this 50. And then one that's, you know that. All right. Let's see. Let my ass go. Yeah, you got to know who you are and what your value is in that moment in time. That's just anything in life though. Yes.
Starting point is 01:45:27 Like not just, I think just when you go into any situations in life, like when you don't, when you're not, when you don't own something and you have to work with people, like, you got to know your role. Like in every situation, like you got to know when to go and when to, you know, sit back if you're delivering at a high level though, it seems like you should be able to have more of a voice. Oh no, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the more.
Starting point is 01:45:48 Okay. Let me have to be 30. Hey, listen. Hey, yes. You're in the MVP rate. If I'm in the MVP rate. Top of the MVP ladder. A little different than 14 minutes a game.
Starting point is 01:45:58 What's 78%? That's like averaging 50, ain't it? Is it obvious? But we got one more thing we got to talk about. I'm going to tell you so an example. Kyle Lur. His name is Jeff Teague. Kyle Lurie.
Starting point is 01:46:07 Right? He is, his gamer team is called 520, which is them. Yeah. But he's the worst player on the team, right? He's a corner dude. See, he didn't want to be a corner dude. He thought he was bigger than everybody else. He's a corner guy who scored zero points, and he thought he can talk to the point guard who kind of kept the team afloat, and guess what?
Starting point is 01:46:35 Point guard said, I ain't got to take this shit no more from y'all. Where did the point guard go? You're sorry, motherfucker. He laughed. Where did the point guard go? Did he go to another team? Huh? No, he by himself.
Starting point is 01:46:45 He 520 all by himself. Teague is in the morning still. You know how bad he got to be the Nick Batoon to get your ass out? He's a nicest Frenchman in the world. Hey, I can't handle this. Horvah. He's the shit that Chris Paul, got the good. All right, we got one more thing.
Starting point is 01:47:02 Hey, they said, hey, do we have a vote? Hey, won't you read what's going on in the chat? How many 78%? 78's in terms. 78's and 108% all down through the chat. Shout out there to the chat. We got one more thing we got to talk about before. We got one more thing we got to talk about today.
Starting point is 01:47:17 78, 78, 78, 78. What the fuck they're talking about? We don't know. 78. 4-on-1. Chris Paul, you're 21. 4-1. And where's the, yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:25 78% I don't I think Ask the chat is Chris Paul still With the clipper What is the fact It's at 80% It's at 80%
Starting point is 01:47:36 There's only one fact In this whole thing I was one He had Walmart Behind the Christmas tree right now We've seen him We got one more thing to discuss Here on Gills Arena
Starting point is 01:47:48 Present about it all Whoop So CB3 year 21 Let's shift our focus to a rookie Who still has a burgeoning Career header from A Mazz have left much to be desired this season, but number one pick.
Starting point is 01:47:57 Cooper Flagg has continued to be a bright spot. Flag is still a few weeks away. Wait, hold on. We got five minutes left. You're not going to throw Cooper Flagg again. Yes, we are. You're going to say that shit for tomorrow. Yes, we are, Gil.
Starting point is 01:48:06 We're not going to about to go 20 minutes on no go cobra flag. Yes, we are, Gilg, Gil. No. We're going to be about to get Chris Paul. Seeing your ass home. Good, Gil, we know you're a Gilzerina. Oh, your motherfucking voice. Gid, we know you're a Gilz Arena legend, and we appreciate that.
Starting point is 01:48:22 I do that. I do that. That's good. Good, Gilles Arena Legend. We'll go quick with it though. So Flagg, a few weeks way for celebrating his 19th birthday. 18-year-old continues to show that age ain't nothing but a number. Let's take a look at what's been going on lately with Mr. Flagg.
Starting point is 01:48:37 One night after becoming the youngest player in Emory with 10 or more assists in the game. Flagg became the youngest player ever to score 35 plus points in the game during a win over the Clippers when Chris Paul was still the team this past Friday, beating LeBron's previous record by five days. So Flag was 13 or 22. 13 to 22 on the field, good for 59% added nine rebounds. 35 points is the third most ever by an 18-year-old
Starting point is 01:49:01 with Braun holding down the top two spots scoring 38 and 37 in game before his 19th birthday. Flag is doing this thing though, looking a lot more comfortable out there. It's a bunny, huh? A now a vintage clip of Chris Paul. The first, right. The bigger clip.
Starting point is 01:49:19 The flag followed up the 35-point performance. 35-point performance with 24 points, 8 board. God damn. And a win over the Nuggets. So he had 35 on the Clippers, 24 on the Nuggets. God ain't out there doing cone work, boy. Oh, yeah. Zubak.
Starting point is 01:49:34 Don't say nothing to nobody, though. Zupac back. Don't say nothing. Yeah. Right for it. Spin. There it is. Oh, don't say nothing to nobody, though.
Starting point is 01:49:46 Uncle Wach. So, Mabbs, beat the Clippers Friday. Everybody beat the Clippers. They did. Then they went on to, proceeded to beat the Nuggets as well, giving Dallas their first winning streak of the season. So in his last six games, Flagg has averaged 21.7 rebounds, four assists, shooting 49% from the field. But when I ask the couch, you're seeing what Cooper Flagg's doing now, we've seen the trajectory throughout this season. Do you think Flagg has the potential to be a superstar in the league?
Starting point is 01:50:13 Of course. For sure. Of course. I mean, I think the position that Jason Kid has him in. I know everybody was against him running to one. but obviously you know how this league is man you know it's always going to do take him some time um i think his ceiling is very high shifted over to now small forward though that experiment but but the fact that he started there so he knows how to you know he got some reps up but now that he's
Starting point is 01:50:36 back in the spot um i mean you know he's a kid that plays both sides of the floor plays hard every night um and he's just going to keep getting better at 18 years old so no you have to at 18 years old he's nice bro he's he's I like him. He'll be 19 in what, December of 20? A couple weeks. Yeah, a couple weeks. I like it.
Starting point is 01:50:58 I like his flow, his pace of the game, his secondary moves, his bumps off. He knows how to control his body, his feet work already. And I hate to say at 18, but yeah, at a young age. That's the age he is currently. I know, but he's a rookie. A rookie is a rookie coming in. First time, 10, anything. So Arvita Sabonis.
Starting point is 01:51:21 But you're seeing something new, that's what I'm saying. So as a rookie, you ain't never seen it. So, but I like them. I just hate when, like, when he does bad, he's on the 18, you know. But, you know, you're going to have some up and down games. It's a roller coaster rider as a rookie, but they should have been did this. Ben gave him a team. They knew they wasn't going nowhere.
Starting point is 01:51:46 All the hype coming in. It was still Anthony Davis with the. gargles you know so the gargles hey but when he still has a good game he's so the gargles i know that's what i like you so good or bad though 80 had 32 recently though but let's get up from this side shot saw you in the cooper flagged duke jersey yesterday here on gills arena presented by underdog woo wool when you look at cooper flag what he's been doing lately do you think he has the potential to be a superstar in this league yet to be determined got a long way to go um
Starting point is 01:52:21 I'm wearing an Anthony Edwards jersey today, so I'm not a lot to say about Cooper today. She's, you know, he got a good trajectory. I'm glad they listened to what I was saying and put them in his right position. Social media can do that. Put some heat on you. A powerful tool. You can post things on there.
Starting point is 01:52:48 You can also delete things. It started being French, my love for that. It was we. It was we? We, we. Oh, you want to, do you want to come up here? Yeah, yeah. You'll come over here.
Starting point is 01:52:58 That 80% said it don't feel good to it. No, no. It don't feel good at all. I played with them. That's why I'm not with you. It's all good. Yeah, we put some heat on that. We put some heat on them.
Starting point is 01:53:10 We put some heat on them. Move them to the right position. Do I see you snacking? Yeah. What we're talking about? Cooper flag. I checked out. It's 131.
Starting point is 01:53:22 30 seconds ago. Don't need you to stay with this just a little bit longer. You were talking about a nigger at home for an hour. Maybe in trending. If I don't know we was going to keep that long, I'd have to be called in. Who's your side? Who Chris? Maybe in transit.
Starting point is 01:53:42 You know what I was talking about that? I'm like, I was like, I was like, look at what I was talking about. That's talking about. Hey, man, pull up, man. We're going to be able to pull this damn story. Pull up and tell us what's really happy. Chris Paul, if you're watching this,
Starting point is 01:53:58 and you want to come on Gil's reading from that my end up, who, whoa, whoa, share your side. And I can tell you, you motherfuck who really haven't. When I'm all sincerity, you're looking at what Cooper Flagg's doing, 35 piece, 24 against Joker, obviously that Nuggets have some injury issues going on, but nonetheless, 24 is 24. Cooper Flag have the potential to be a superstar in the league. He is a superstar.
Starting point is 01:54:19 Well, he has a superstar name. He has potential to have a superstar game. The mechanics, right? You're talking about an 18-year-old. You hate to say it. No, what I'm saying? You're talking about an 18-year-old who is making moves like this. Like, these are his moves at 18.
Starting point is 01:54:39 He's creating his own shot. He's taking people off the dribble, right? He's bringing it up. He's making decisions. Like, correct decisions. On Kauai. Right you mean? Like we're talking about elite decision making.
Starting point is 01:54:53 He's making, for the most part, all the right moves to score and deliver the ball when he needs to. But for the most part, when you're talking about putting the ball in the basket, we're watching it. And at this, at the age of 18, it's supposed to be new. Right? You're supposed to show glimpses of your talent. Right? Every night he's showing that, listen, he can, he's surviving with his average about 15 now? 17. 17? Like, come on.
Starting point is 01:55:26 That's a, that's what superstars do. Yeah. And he's a white American, too. He's not foreign. Like, I mean, like, it's like little bumps. Like, he's bumping. Like, you don't learn, you don't learn that. You don't learn that for a minute. It takes you, it takes you, it takes you a couple years before you get into your groove to understand, like, what you can do on players. He's learning in real time every game, yeah. Off the glass, yeah, that's tough.
Starting point is 01:55:52 So, I mean... Yo, does he have the potential to be just as big as Larry Bird as a white American Hooper? I don't. The league is not going to let that happen. No. Fuck, we bird. I mean, nobody noticed in the last business since COVID.
Starting point is 01:56:08 I think he does. No, no, no, since COVID. No, no, no, I'm not talking about the MVP's. I'm talking about just... No, no, no, since COVID, they've labeled, they've labeled trophies. to submit their players which was Magic Bird and Jordan
Starting point is 01:56:22 right so this NBA we're living in was built off of them and we're they're never gonna these are the founding fathers and the only way they know how to respect them
Starting point is 01:56:36 is to keep them where they are so I don't know how many championships or MVP's he will have to win for them to consider it but Larry Bird basically is just That's the untouchable is Michael Jordan. Let it happen.
Starting point is 01:56:49 Let's let it just. Let's not talk about that. That's a big part of it. He got a weird part. No, I'm just saying. Let me be a rookie right now. I mean, the potential is there. No, I'm not.
Starting point is 01:56:59 Seeing the potential, obviously, you know, in the rick of the year race, Connoeco also from the Hornets, his Duke teammate, balling out as well. Yeah, he's balling. But he's just slowed down a little bit. He just slowed down a little bit. It seemed like the league has an interest to make sure a Cooper gets that rookie. But it's just a talent.
Starting point is 01:57:15 I mean, they're figured out they, you know, when you don't, we don't know you, you can get off, and then we start scouting you. He's going to have to just, you know, scout more himself as a rookie. Like, the league game is, like, especially for somebody like, Vijay, you can jump over everybody. Just understand your angles, understand tendencies of what defenses do. Because once you get a step on somebody, I can trust it. We've witnessed it. They're not jumping with you.
Starting point is 01:57:40 There's only a couple of nutheads out there who's going to actually challenge your shot. but for the most part 80% of the 80% of the big man out there ain't jumping with you they don't want to be put on that poster you don't got that much power but flag got bounced too though
Starting point is 01:57:56 no flag got that's what I'm saying his bouncing is high it ain't as much power as BJ but no but there's some I mean it's a good rookie class it is better than like yours
Starting point is 01:58:06 oh yeah way better we don't even talk about last yeah I don't even no Zach Ali you Sash or Alex Arla I forgot they were in the leaves. We do talk about the 50th overall bit. I mean Castle, Castle came out.
Starting point is 01:58:24 Oh, yeah, I like Castle. Castle came out of, I mean, Castle. Rookie of the Year. All right, well, you know, that is sufficient basketball discourse for the day. Wanted to end it on a little bit lighter note, lighter mode. Ferely turked up. CB3, if you're in the area, you want to pull up to go. Any area.
Starting point is 01:58:41 We got, we can throw it. It broke at 3 o'clock in the morning. You could have still been in Atlanta at that point. No, it was 3 o'clock. You know how early that it is? We got to make sure that niggas sleep. Anybody got eyes on him? He's sleep, right?
Starting point is 01:58:59 Hey, pack the jet, we out. All right, yeah. To Lou Will's credit, Lou Will lives in Atlanta, always the consummate sports journalist. Lou Will was up at that point. Thought it was on the road, three in the morning.
Starting point is 01:59:10 Ready to get some news, gathering going on. And on that little tech thing. You don't think about it. Hey, hey, we're about to believe that tweet. I'm sure he would have did. And on that note,
Starting point is 01:59:26 appreciate all you fine gentlemen on the couch. Appreciate everybody in the chat. This has been another episode of Gil's Arena, presented by Underdog. Whoa! We will see y'all tomorrow.

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