Gil's Arena - Cooper Flagg LOCKED UP Rookie of the Year

Episode Date: April 8, 2026

Giannis Antetokounmpo & The Milwaukee Buck's MESSY Divorce SETS OFF Gil's Arena as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to Giannis sparking an investigation into the Milwaukee Bucks franchise a...fter publically slamming the team for not playing him despite being healthy and debate if this messy situation means the end of the Greek Freak era for the Bucks. Next, they break down the Houston Rockets hot streak as Kevin Durant & The Kets have ripped off 7 wins in a row to vault themselves up the Western Conference standings heading into the NBA Playoffs and debate if the Rockets are finally clicking at the right time. They also react to Kevin Durant making Dillon Brooks look silly after the NBA villain poked the bear once again before reacting to Cooper Flagg ending the debate for the NBA's rookie of the year as the Dallas Mavericks' young superstar made history with back to back 40 point games including a 50 burger to spring himself over Kon Knueppel as the league's best rookie. PLEASE give us a LIKE and SUBSCRIBE!! VOTE THE ARENA FOR BEST SPORTS PODCAST - https://shortyawards.com/vote/ Today's Gil's Arena Crew : Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Brandon Jennings, Kenyon Martin, Swaggy P, & Skip Bayless Gil's Arena premieres every Wednesday & Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog HERE with promo code GIL and play $5 to get $50 in bonus funds or bonus entries https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... SUBSCRIBE:    / @thearena0   Read Rashad's Blog - https://rawrashad.com/?blog=y Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos!   / discord   Must be 18+ (19+ in AL, NE; 19+ in CO for some games; 21+ in AZ & MA) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369) 2 Min Countdown 0:00:00 Show Start 0:01:46 Rockets Win 7 Straight 0:05:47 KD Makes Dillon Brooks Look Silly 0:35:02 Giannis & The Bucks' Messy Divorce 1:05:25 Cooper Flagg Steals The Rookie Of The Year 1:52:25 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:03:53 for keeping Yonis sideline, despite him saying he's ready to play. We break down the messy situation going down in Milwaukee. And Cooper Flag came through with an historic scoring weekend. The Flag lock up the rookie of the year. Before we get into all that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog. Underdogs available in most states, including Texas, California, and Florida. New customers get $50 and bonus entries when they play just $5 to get started.
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Starting point is 00:04:42 And if you can't watch this show live on YouTube, we have audio versions available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcast. So Rockets and Sons met Tuesday for final time in regular season. It was Katie's first time back playing in Phoenix since the Blockbuster trade last summer that sent them to the Rockets. Green's first time playing against his former team. Things got chippy in this one.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Both teams fighting for playoff position in the final week of the season. Let's take a look at the highlights if we can, please. My good man, Ian, so Sons came out on fire in the first quarter. They put up 37 points, including a 24-0 run led by as much as 21 points in the quarter. 16 after the first frame, though. The Rocket started amounted to come back. It's bounced back in the second quarter, cutting the deficit to three by half time. KD. and Dylan Brooks had some shenanigans going on.
Starting point is 00:05:36 We will discuss that more in depth in just a little bit. Houston has seven players, score and double figures in the game. Amon Thompson stuffed the stat sheet. 22.11 rebounds, eight assists, and three steals, taking his matchup with Jalen Green personally. KD finished with 24 points on 8 to 20 shooting. He was five for nine from three. And like I mentioned, him and Dylan Brooks got into it, but he was unfazed by. that. Jabari Smith had 20 and Alperin Changoon had 12 points, 14 boards and six assists.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Devin Booker led the Suns with 31 points while Jalen Green added 15 on 5-014 shooting. Brooks Trash Talk didn't work in this one. He finished with 10 points on 3 or 12 shooting. He was one for seven from three. You see it. So Houston outscored Phoenix 65 to 48 in the second half as the sun's cooled off in the final three quarters after their hot start. So with the loss, The Suns are now locked in the plan. Currently seventh, if the Clippers keep doing what they're doing, they could potentially push them down to the A-spot. While the Rockets have won seven straight games,
Starting point is 00:06:37 now tied with the Lakers for the fourth spot in the West with three games remaining. LA still holds a tiebreaker, but based on how things are looking out there, they're not gonna have enough wins to get it done. But Gil will start with you. What are your biggest takeaways from the Rockets win over the Suns?
Starting point is 00:06:56 You know, When the season first started, we thought with adding KD and what they did last year, that this team would be competing at one or two, right? And it seemed like that they really did need a point guard. They're a point guard that can shoot the ball and get everybody in position. Where they struggle at is they're very athletic. They get out in the open. They're very good in the open.
Starting point is 00:07:26 when you put them in half court and make the other guys make decisions, that's where it gets a little murky. And when you're talking about playing playoff basketball, you have to be dialed in and, yes, they won seven games straight. But are they dialed into winning series and series to go to, you know, that chip and compete for a championship? I don't know. Because it seems like if you, if you can confirm.
Starting point is 00:07:58 contain KD and make KD take under 20 shots and it's just Sangoon playing one-on-one and everybody else shooting from the outside even though they got them 610 and they're not attacking that basket. They will struggle, right? So, you know, they're a good team. They're a dangerous team, but will they find the rhythm that they need to push in the playoffs when they're going against the O KC, when they're going again? Denver Nuggets when they're going against even the Spurs.
Starting point is 00:08:37 Right? You know, those teams will have the advantage over them, so they're going to have to play great basketball and be careful of what they're doing. You look at that seven-game win streak, not necessarily against the best that the NBA has to offer. A lot of fluff in there. But Mr. B., you look at this Rockets team.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Are they clicking at the right time? I mean, they're winning, the games are supposed to win, but I think they're cooked. I mean, I said it. And I think they've been overrated the whole year. I said it before. Last year, I felt like they were better. They just gave up on their two. They gave up on Jaylen and they gave up on Dylan Brooks,
Starting point is 00:09:16 who were having good years over there this year with the Sutton's. But they struggle on a half court. They turned the ball over. They started off. They were down 26-5. I mean, yeah, they went on a seven-game series. win streak, but they played against teams like Utah, Milwaukee, Grizzlies, the Bucks. Teams that were on.
Starting point is 00:09:37 I don't know if they played them, but you just told them in it. Yeah, they did. But, I mean, the only real win I'll give them is that Knicks one. So for me, it's just, yeah, I mean, you know, if they match up with the Lakers, they've had a hope Luca and A.R. aren't playing because I don't see them getting past the Lakers because they turn over the ball too much in a half court. So I don't know. We'll see what happens.
Starting point is 00:09:58 It feels good to hear you said. I'm just saying. I don't think you've seen the Lakers in the half, Quentin. Yeah, but I see it look good and it's better than that. I'll take my chance of that. All right, let's shift over to this side of the county.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Kenyon, you've seen this Rocket Squad. We've been watching them all year. They're struggling in clutch, struggle without having a true point guard. Reach Shepherd just kind of tried to fill that void. I think he started the last four or five games. Been playing solid, but this Rocket's team is for real or Fugazi?
Starting point is 00:10:28 I don't know. One day they look like they can compete, and the next day they look like they don't know how to play basketball at times without KD being out there, you know what I'm saying? So I think they've played a long season and for the jury to still be out is not a good thing. No, I don't. The fact that to Gillsport, they don't make shots. Reese Shepard can make shots, but he's not the point guard that you need to get people involved. He's looking for his shot first. Sort of a liability on defense. But try to neutralize that by making shots. Yeah, their success is definitely reliant on KD having KD Knight's 27 to 35 and Sangoon put numbers on
Starting point is 00:11:30 board. If they're doing that, they're tough to beat. With Thompson going down hill and Jabari making jump shots, if they're doing that, they're tough to beat. But that's where it gets tricky after that. You got solid players, but in this league, you have to be able to make shots. We know that. And they don't have shot makers coming off the bench in case guys start a lineup and not getting it done. So whoever they match up. with in the first round is going to be a difficult time because game planning, they will make them shoot. They will make the ball find certain guys. Are they capable? Yeah, are they capable with in the series? I think it just depends on who they match up with. It depends on if KD is
Starting point is 00:12:16 game planning with him, right? Depends on how they go. So I think Gil said something that was key. If they keep him 15 to 20 shots by doubling him. and making him uncomfortable and making him a passer, it's going to be tough. So it's going to be tough. But don't know. Really don't know. I said, some days it looks more promising other days. I really like I'm...
Starting point is 00:12:46 Well, last one, a little shift over to skip skip. When you look at this rocket squad, do you feel like the rocket's for real or the rocket's fool gazing? This rocket squad is real enough that if it winds up in a four or five with the Lakers, even if the Lakers have Luca and have AR and have LeBron, who was out with a foot injury. I think he just said, I don't want, I can't do this, but if the Lakers are whole, you gotta catch the ball? Yeah, that's true. Yeah, if the Lakers are whole, the Rockets will still beat the Lakers because the Rockets have found
Starting point is 00:13:25 themselves their best version of themselves lately. And I root for them not because of Kevin. Durant, but because of that coach, I just love this coach. I may is my kind of coach because he's your kind of guy. And this team has some of you in it because what it does do better than anybody in this league is, it will just kick your ass on the backboards every single night, especially the offensive glass. They destroyed Phoenix on the glass last night.
Starting point is 00:13:59 It was 55 to 34 rebounds. and offensive rebounds were 24 to 10. So they are just crashing the glass. And allow me to say amen to Amen Thompson because he has grown up before your very eyes. He is a problem for everybody on both ends of the floor, on just sheer energy on defense and crashing and driving on the offensive end.
Starting point is 00:14:28 And the other weird thing about them, as Gil pointed out, obviously they've been a drift without their leader and their point guard the whole year, but the last seven games, I'm seeing the center become their joker of a point guard. And what did Kevin say in his stand-up interview on court right after the game last night in Phoenix? He said, we just fed off Alpi in the fourth quarter. And I'm like, you did? And I'm looking, and Shingoon is now the point center of this team. So the offense is going through Shingoon, and he's leading them in assists.
Starting point is 00:15:08 He's six a game. I know it's not 10 a game, but he is leading this team in assists, and they've found their best version of themselves with him initiating every offensive possession. The ball goes to him first, and he kicks it, or he drives it and kicks it. And that's the best they can be. So do I think they could beat the Lakers in a four or five? I definitely do. Can they beat the Thunder and the semifinals of the Western Conference?
Starting point is 00:15:36 They obviously have zero chance with Kevin going home to Oklahoma City. No chance. Y'all agree? Zero percent chance? What, to beat O KC if they match up? I think they have a chance to beat the Lakers, though. I mean, no, the Lakers have a chance to beat Houston with Luca. They got to be healthy.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Yeah, yeah, no, I'm saying if they're healthy. If they're healthy, but if not, then, you know. And Houston would need a lot of help from the Nuggets. They could potentially jump even into that third spot. I think they'd have to win all three games, and the Nuggets have to go like one or two. Who has to win? Rocks would have to win out,
Starting point is 00:16:13 and the Nuggets have to go one and two. Nuggets do have games against the Spurs and Thunder. You know, this is the playoffs? So matchups is the most important part. There's no way Houston will try to jump the three. if they have the Lakers that hurts. Yeah, four, five.
Starting point is 00:16:31 They want to be it. You also have the timber world that are. I'm definitely trying to. I'm definitely trying to. I'm definitely trying to. I'm definitely trying to. I'm not trying to see Yolkich. And one is 40.
Starting point is 00:16:41 And the rest of the bench is a G-League team. I understand. I am not trying to jump to three. I'm going to say exactly four or five. To them? To the wolves dealing with it with a... Four or five. That's them stems on the cheese from back.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Yeah, you still got the rest of the, like, Timberwolves bench squad is better than our whole team. Right? They got guys who can put the ball in the back. Yeah, yeah. They got a legitimate sick.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Our best player right now that I trust is Luke Kinnard. I'm not even going to lie. Well, outside of LeBron. Yeah, I mean. Aside of it. Because he's going to play.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Now, I figured he'll do with, you know, he's healthy. He's healthy. He just set out because there was no need for him to play because Oklahoma. Go out and. getting bears like that. I'm not going to be,
Starting point is 00:17:29 so y'all already got me the worst loss of my career on the record. We're not going to do this shit twice. I'm not going to go out there. Come on, man. You're not going to have this. You're not going to do this. Twice in a week, actually. Twice in less than.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Yeah, we're not going to do this. On Taco Tuesday, come on, man. We ain't for to do that, dog. We'll drink me some loboes and my other can have me some tacos, man. They go play some in my golf simulator. It's, even though Kevin to Grand average is about 20 shots a game, The difference is he doesn't have two studs that he used to have with him, where you didn't have to double Katie.
Starting point is 00:18:04 You couldn't double Katie. You couldn't. Russell James, right? You're talking about where. Kyrie James. You couldn't do Booker. Like you couldn't do anything with him. Now you have a handicap and the handicap is the shooting.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Yes. Because they have to play though money. Like even Sangun, you're not Yokic. because you can't shoot from the outside. We know where you want to go. You want to do, you want to get in and try to get, you're going to pump fake. Don't jump.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Nobody needs to jump. No one needs to go for the pump fake. You're going to pump fake to try to go and do all your things to get in. So you are limited. So when San Goons, the point guard, treat them how you would have treated Russell Westbrook, Rondo, Ben Simmons. If you're going to beat us, you shoot 10 threes.
Starting point is 00:18:52 if you make three I'll think about guarding you if you're not going 50% I'm not I'm not going out here just do you and we're just going to sit back we're not going to let you do no back shoot the three
Starting point is 00:19:03 could test late yeah we just shoot the three we just do it like because you know and that's he's not his game yet that's the problem with yoke engine and indeed
Starting point is 00:19:13 that's their beauty where they can shoot that shot at a very high clip so you are forced as the big man to go there where they get the drive and then use that advantage against him. So that's where he's going to have to improve
Starting point is 00:19:26 to really be an all-around threat. So what version of Kevin Durant do you guys think that the Rockets need in the postseason for them to be successful? It's not him. It's not really him. It's 25, his 27 is what it is. Because they're going to double him.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Does that need to... His 27 is what it is, man. So what do you need to get to? 35. I mean, maybe. No, it ain't on him. But he might. I mean, to get past 4.
Starting point is 00:19:53 OK, see he's going to, he might have it. Yeah, to see what, so his 27 is enough. They just got other people. It's a, it's that. I mean, we're going to need some 30s, though. Of course, he going to give you that. For him to keep it, he going to, he going to give you that. Anything from 27 to 35.
Starting point is 00:20:09 It's amen. Right. And he's going to dominate. It's amen. It's going to have to, like, you're going to have to lock down and you're going to be very productive on the offensive end. Or Jabari Smith, right? One of you two are going to have to really be great.
Starting point is 00:20:28 I think it's made for Thompson to, Ava and Thompson, to dominate it because how he, just down here, man. Yeah, if he gets down here. You're downhill, man, and you're attacking guys, man, game after game, after game, possession after. No, that's, they get tired. They don't want that. Like, if you had a jump shot, bro? Yeah, they don't want. But if he had a jump shot.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Yeah, they don't want to have to guard that, man. Do you run it back with this team if they can't get out the second round? I'm saying Fred, not Fred not being to hurt them, though. Like Fred not being to hurt them. But that's the point, too, do you give KD some grace with this squad not going to finish with a better record than they did last year?
Starting point is 00:21:06 Or not going to finish with a higher seating than they did last season, but didn't have their point guard all year long. But obviously had time to address that and had some roster issues that kind of limited their ability to bring another point guard onto the roster. That's when you got to be creative, man. You got to do your job. As a GM, as a president, you all have to come to get a collective mind.
Starting point is 00:21:26 I mean, they had a chance to go get another point guard. Yeah, but like they couldn't do it until after December 15. Cool, cool. They had a- They was holding a fort down. They would have to make some trades and I think they just decided to roll with it. Yeah, they was holding a fort down to December 15th. Then you should have, you should have had a plan when December 15th hit.
Starting point is 00:21:41 To get something? I'm saying, we gotta get something, right? This is our date. We know we can't move before that, but we need a plan in place. So on December 15th, 10th happened. We make this move because we see what this could possibly be. First game of the season showed us, right? We was already talking about how it looked, them not having a point guard. The very first game of the season, how it looked.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Double-a-tied on the-old. Yeah, double-old. And it looked like, yeah, you need somebody to get them guys involved, right? You had ample time to address that and you didn't. That falls on front office. The guys going out and playing, they're going to try to do all they can to circumvent not having that but still those guys need to like you need somebody out there like Fred that's been there that's won
Starting point is 00:22:32 and they had ample opportunity to go get something listen man you could have went and got Kyle Lari from Philly and he could have somebody hey something yeah something somebody
Starting point is 00:22:44 right able body he over there just sitting and he only big minutes point guard. He don't need them big minutes. You just need somebody out there when the shit get tough. He knew he know where the ball need to go. That's all. I'm like I ain't saying you playing 35 a night but it's just a name. I'm just done like somebody of that knows how to play the position that you can depend on. That's all.
Starting point is 00:23:09 When you look at this current iteration of the Rockets. Fuck Mike Connolly. I ought to do what I did to go get Mike Connolly from him. I don't know. I ought to do something. Yeah, my bad. I tweeted the other night during the final four championship game. If the Rockets had that Elliot Kodot, who was the most outstanding player, obviously from Michigan, if they had him right now, they'd be a tough out. They just don't have that tough little man to run the show. But let me say this about Kevin Durant. I saw some slippage last year in Phoenix. I saw some aging taken over, and he and I went back and forth on social media a couple of times about that.
Starting point is 00:23:51 And I must say, he took it back up a level. He looks like Kevin Durant to me right now. And I know he gets in some binds when they don't have somebody to get him his shots. And some teams can take him completely out of being able to create a shot. But, man, last night, as he returned to Phoenix with a chip on his shoulder and a grudge in his heart, once he got untracked, I don't know. You're going to talk about Dylan Brooks in a second. But once he got on track, he looked like Kevin bleeping Durant to me.
Starting point is 00:24:24 He's playing at extremely high level, and he will have to for them to make any noise in the next two weeks. So I think we've said it for Katie doing his part. Like he always, Katie is a. Yeah, any class, any, we always, project he does. We always say, I'm not saying. He's been saying, right? He's getting a.
Starting point is 00:24:45 Everywhere he's way, he'd get A. He's A. We've been saying he is. is probably the only plug and play player in the national basketball associate has seen in a long time where there's been a lot of great players to play in this league but systems have been built around them and they have to wherever they go that system has to change for that person that's a good point yeah not for Kevin Durant everybody else can still be them because of his efficiency right 50 90 50 40 90 no flirting with it right now
Starting point is 00:25:20 Right. 51% from the field. Like that's, come on, man. At this age, still doing it like that. Like, it's, it's, injuries behind him. Yeah, 52% from the field, 41 from 3, 88 from the free throw line. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:25:35 26. That'll work. Yeah, you got to, can't miss, though. Can't miss. I know he missed those, he missed those. He missed those. He missed those. He got to run some, he got to run some 15, 20 straight real quick.
Starting point is 00:25:48 They don't need to shepherd to actually hit something. actually hit shots. Because when you're talking about just the playoffs themselves, right, we know, okay, all right, Kevin Durant, okay, he's his own, he's his own scouting report, right? So it's like,
Starting point is 00:26:03 all right, if we're going to take him out, what are they going to do? All right, Sangoon. If we take him out, who's third? Who's going to win it for him? Right? And I think no one's going to guard Sheper like that. Unless he's making. Unless he's making shots. And the only way I'm going to
Starting point is 00:26:21 help off of and keep my eyes off of Kevin Durant or Sangoon as if my man is hitting shot. So if he comes out, game one is going to try to take them to, if Shepard comes out hitting shots off the rip, that changes the series. But they thought he was a point guard and he's just not. All he is is a shooter. He's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a six man. He's a guy that can, more like a Ben Gordy. So you got to play him.
Starting point is 00:26:52 When he's coming in, you're the microwave guy. We got to come, bring you off screens, let you be that run-around guy. You sitting there doing pig and rolls, I got to put you, let you come off screen. Nobody's chasing nobody off screens these days. They can't even keep up with Kevin Durant. I mean, Kevin, I mean, Curry, right? Like, as soon as Curry passes the ball, he understands what defense does. Go!
Starting point is 00:27:16 Takes off. Go! Right? So, you know, with guarding him and you just sitting there running off all these downs, you're picks and splits and stuff, that could be your job. You would get so much easy buckets, just moving without the ball. They got a willing pass it too in Sangu. Is 20 and 9 enough for them to, from Sanguon?
Starting point is 00:27:38 No, and 29? I was just about to ask you that. Do you think Sangoon was having a down year? Yeah, he is. Right. Like, I felt like the ball was in his hands more last year when they needed like clutch plays and stuff. Like, even when they was playing a game.
Starting point is 00:27:52 against the Warriors, like in that playoff series. I just felt like it was different last year. Like, this year's more like he's, I mean, he's averaging more points. He's averaging 20 last year he was 19. But I just felt like he was a plus. He was a plus, like, five, and now he's a plus two. You know, we got a camera right. No, I.
Starting point is 00:28:11 But we were expecting, we thought we were going to go to more. We were, we sat on the couch like that. San Gungu was going to take that next. Yeah. They were going to play through him throughout the seat. Yeah. He's not. He's not a good.
Starting point is 00:28:23 He went up a point. He went up a point. Yeah, a point. But then the year before that, he was averaging 21. Yeah. But it's hard to be, it's hard to be a go-to guy if you can't shoot the ball. That's hard. Like, I mean, how many times you're going to fall for the same pump fake before they realize?
Starting point is 00:28:39 You're talking about shooting threes or... Period. No, he can shoot in the life. That's what I say. He just shooting the ball, damn it right, the hash. Yeah. He wants to catch it at the hash then go. So it's like, all right, you, it's not like you're a cut.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Catch you that the frito line didn't go on here, you're catching at the hash and you're going to dribble. You're going to play sloppy man basketball, put your body on them, spin, spin, and do a... You want to flail and do all that stuff. Just back up. He plays little to me. They listen to him at 611. He looks like he's 6'9 to me. Plays like little big...
Starting point is 00:29:09 Under the basket, it's that Z-bow, that Z-bow style word. There is. There is like a counter-puncher. I'm going to go spin. You're going to... I'm going to feel you here. I'm going to... Yeah, I'm going to use...
Starting point is 00:29:20 I'm trying to use what you're off. I'm going to, like, it's that. Yeah, I'm trying to use whatever it is you're presenting. Yeah. So you can play, like him, Yokic. No matter how rough you play with them, they're countering all of it with the spins and bumps and this and that. And, like, it's...
Starting point is 00:29:34 I think KD. took a lot away from his aggressiveness. No, he's aggressive. Yeah, but I'm telling him, like, it looked like he was ready to take that next. And then he just... I mean, and it's, yes, Kevin Durant. So, of course, you're going to defer. But without a point guard, too, I'm thinking, okay.
Starting point is 00:29:55 He's taking the same amount of shots, though. But you know what? More. I think career high. How many free throws is he taken? He is shooting, Gil, about five free throws again. Okay, that's not enough. That's not enough.
Starting point is 00:30:07 That's not enough of somebody. That's not enough of somebody. 70%. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, when you're talking about taking the next step, right? That means you are going into the summer, looking at a flaw, and making that a strip, right? When Duane Wade took the next step, what do you come back with?
Starting point is 00:30:24 The bank shot. He came back that year with his bank. Then the very next year he came back with a pump fake, right? So that means he still has all the drives and the splits that he had. Then he added a bank shot. Then he added a pump fake to the bank shot, right? That's how you elevate your game. So we're talking about taking the next step.
Starting point is 00:30:44 The next step is making sure you can hit the long ball a little bit. making sure you can make free throws, making sure you're getting fouled because the difference between 20 and 25 is free throws, right? I don't have to shoot no more extra shots on my field goal, just free throws. Right, we're getting the penalty.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Come on down here, got you. Two free throws, right? It's that game that you upgrade. So the fact that he's a guy who does all this bumping and stuff, he's only shooting five free throws. Trey Young shoots more than that. Brunson shoots more than that.
Starting point is 00:31:19 You know what I mean? So you understand. You're the big man who's driving all the time and you can only get fouled. Right. Would you take him over DeAndre Aiton right now? Who? Over who?
Starting point is 00:31:28 Sure. Over your guy. Aighton. Would you take Shingoon over Aiton? Yes. Hell yeah. Like hell yeah. Like hell of him.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Hey, man. That's like a Ferrari and a Honda. Stop. What? Come at him. Damn. Sh. Why?
Starting point is 00:31:43 It's a Honda at best. Right? J.J. Reddick said. This is your first car. That is your car. Get him a Kia. His comparison, how much is this a comparison? Where's Clint Capella?
Starting point is 00:31:57 What's his comparison? I was going to at least give me. And get me Clint. That ain't a new Kia. Shit. The Kia that still does that. You still got the plug-in lighter. I'm saying for the car charger.
Starting point is 00:32:11 You got the plug, the lighter for the, yeah, he got that one. Yeah, that's what that boy is. He made me laugh. I've ever seen one of those Back down memory lanes We've got to go back to a moment in the game that Had the internet buzzing So let's take a look
Starting point is 00:32:29 Like I mentioned things were chippy all game Including in the second quarter When Kevin Durant, Dylan Brooks were jawing at each other So after Brooks foul KD got up They started talking reckless Amidst the trash talk KD appeared to tell Brooks My worst season is better than your best
Starting point is 00:32:44 Right there Then on the very next play Got a foul now. That's mean-spirited. KD. Sam Brooks, Thumbling, hit a jumper over, Mark Wood. Hey now. Oh, oh shit. My worst season is better than your best.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Shit to talk. Get your bum ass up. I'm sure he did. They kept talking as he went back down to course. So Duran was asked about that moment, and Brooks continued attempts to try and poke bears and had this response. Not at all. I'm not giving him that. He don't get that type of credit with me.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Maybe some other guys that may turn up because he talked to him, but he's not that important, especially to me to get me going. You know what I'm saying? I wake up going getting ready to play. You know what I'm saying? But I respect it. I respect what he brings to the game.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Like I said earlier, I think that gets him going more than me. You know what I'm saying? And I just happen to get that ball right afterwards and make a good move, but it wasn't in spite of dealing. I wanted to show him up. Like, he's not that much of a concern to me. but I respect how he approaches the game and what he does. And that's valuable to him.
Starting point is 00:33:53 That brings him, makes him a better player. But me, it has nothing to do with my game. That was worse than my worst year is your best year. That was worse. Some good trash talk. Some good trash talk. At the end? Yeah, everything.
Starting point is 00:34:08 No, that at that end, that hurts. Some good trashd. You talking to me gets you hype. They don't do that to me. I don't know you. It's some good trash talk. I like it. I like it.
Starting point is 00:34:18 I like it. Don't say. It's like, it's the perfect time. Playoffs is right around the corner. Let's go. Because that is the actual truth. That he's getting himself hype to stop you. Like, yeah, yeah, this is what we're doing.
Starting point is 00:34:32 And it fuels that type of guy. So for him to say it in reality, yeah, that gets him going. I don't do nothing to me. He just. Just the guy. Just a guy. Just a guy. He's a guy on the team.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Skip, I saw you laughing during KD's commentary. Yeah. Look, that was a classic case of why Dylan Brooks is more trouble than he's worth. That there was why he's no longer in Memphis and no longer in Houston, and probably next year he'll be somewhere else. So think about this. Dylan Brooks team, the home team, had just gone on a 24-0 run. They were up 26 to 5 because Kevin Durant was trying too hard.
Starting point is 00:35:20 was pressing because he said earlier this year, but the first time in his career, he got, to use his words, kicked out by a team. He got kicked out by the Houston, I mean, by the Phoenix Sons. And it stuck with him, and it stuck in his craw, and it hurt him. And he wanted to show them. He wanted to punish the home crowd last night in his first game back in Phoenix. And he starts one for six. So you've got them right where you want them until Dylan Brooks starts poking the bear. Well, that's the one bear you just can't poke.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Just let him stew, let him fret, let him keep trying too hard, let him press on his jumper and go one for 12. Just leave him alone. And the game flipped on what you just saw. And he pushed the wrong button in the wrong guy at the wrong time. And all of a sudden, the game just flips on his head, on its head. It just goes crazy from that point on. And Kevin just took it out and took it out
Starting point is 00:36:27 and took it out on Dylan Brooks. And I love him just dismissing him like, I don't even care who he is. Like he's talking about him like he doesn't really know who he is. That's fine. And that's what I think of Dylan Brooks is he's a pretty good player, but he's only a pretty good player who always having to instigate as part of his repertoire, but you have to read the room and pick your spots. And he picked the wrong spot because I thought Phoenix had him right where I thought Phoenix was going to win the basketball game. And from that point on, they lost in the fourth quarter 38 to 21 because Kevin Durant was by far the best player on the floor because he's, he's him. He's it. He's he. And he was so infuriated.
Starting point is 00:37:15 that that guy would dare to try to get in my head, get under my skin, just because I got off to a bad start. And that was the end of that game at that flashpoint moment. So congratulations, Dylan. You lost the game for your team at home. So you're talking about Dylan the villain, though. And I understand what you're saying. But in Memphis, successful, obviously scapegoated him after that series.
Starting point is 00:37:41 I got smacked by the Lakers, which is going to happen anyway. I mean, he even pushed LeBron's button at all the wrong times, you know? But goes to the Rockets, the part of that turnaround over there with EMA Adoka, helps build the culture over there. Goes to this Sun Squad, having a career year right now, putting up 20 points per game. But it seems like, you know, you got to take the good with the bad with Dylan Brooks. Because nobody would expect that the Suns would be seventh right now. No, but that was a classic case of why you can't trust him when you need him the most.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Because he doesn't know when to turn off Dylan the villain. That's what happened last night. to turn it off, you got to pick your spot, pick the wrong spot. That's just me. Is that all you got to stay in the league is being Dylan the villain? Okay. Got to be really good.
Starting point is 00:38:28 You can continue to be that. You've got to be really good. What, the Trash harder? No, just the villain part. Just the antagonist part. Right? You got you got to go out and you got to do what Dennis Rodman was doing. Shit like that, right? You got to be, like, putting up, like, I mean, he's average in 20.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Okay. He's playing well. I ain't saying he's not. He's playing well, but you got to... I mean, I'm just saying, this is his best year. It is? I mean, I know this, the... I love it.
Starting point is 00:38:56 I love it. I mean, in Memphis... There was a point we were talking about him in the All-Star discussion. I'm just saying, you know, earlier this season. I feel Memphis went down when they let him go. I mean, that's just me personally. I mean, I just think they lost that firepower. I feel like that's just where it started going downhill for them.
Starting point is 00:39:10 I think they needed that with Jha and that. Everybody needs that. But to skip point, yes, he does a little bit too much. But I mean, I mean, like we said, we didn't know the penis is going to be here at 7th. I mean, dude was averaging 20. Dude went from last year to having his best year this year. You know, he's filling himself. He gets criticized a lot for a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:39:30 But he still goes out there and does his thing. So it's kind of, you know, you do got to be careful who you are poking. I mean, Kevin Durant, like if I'm meeting up with Kevin Durant in the playoffs, I'm not, you know, you got to calm it down just a little bit. But he's not. I can't. It's just hard because he's he's cooking too, though. At the same thing, it's 20. But he's not, he's not, he's cooking.
Starting point is 00:39:52 He's playing well. For Dylan Brooks is cooking. No, no, no. For him for what he's cooking. He's cooking for Dylan Brooks. He's having a career year, right? He's having a career year, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:40:05 For a defender, right? Just take last night with the Kevin the Red thing, right? You already have this thing with you, right? You know for fucking with people. Katie get off to a slow start. We think it's because of us. Right? Right?
Starting point is 00:40:24 We think, hey, we think it's like, shit, I'm like Katie's shit down right now, right? Yeah. I got that shit. You ain't getting that off right now. You walk up to him, say something. Shit, got that shit right now. You can't, you.
Starting point is 00:40:36 No. Like, with people like that, there's no defense that you can just missing. Right. So we get this inflated thing with us and we are already shit talking and we already built on this and it just brings it out even more and we don't know where to put it at times. Right? You just don't know where to.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Right? I'm not to fucking with Kobe for what. Right? For what? You did that? Yeah. Like, because I, the only thing I got to come back with you said, you know what I'm about out here. The only thing I can come back with is
Starting point is 00:41:13 and you know what I'm about out here. Right? You keep scoring, we're going to fight. You keep scoring. Right? That's all I had, right? You're out there going through it, right? But it's that, right?
Starting point is 00:41:26 You fuck with the wrong people. That's just who we are at times, right? We think we didn't got a couple stops and we think we're playing better defense than we are at time. We can be playing great defense. Either they're scoring or they make it or they can play the best defense in the world and they miss. And they make it.
Starting point is 00:41:41 It's not us, but we don't, like I said, he don't know where to put it at times, right? And that's, I think that's the difference is he doesn't realize he has a double-edged sword with him now, being in Phoenix. See, you used to get hype stopping players, right? You're only targeting superstars, right? It's like you are going out for the big whale. Everybody over here fishing, you're like, LeBron, KD, Curry, yeah, I can get somebody that whimby. I'm going to get some of that whimby. That fish, right?
Starting point is 00:42:17 Yeah, I want that shade. Like, I want the big, I want the, I'm not wasting my talent over here. I want the big stuff. Now the difference is you have something to lose. See, they're going to keep shooting. They don't care about you. So what happens when you miss shots too? See, before, because you didn't.
Starting point is 00:42:39 See, Dennis Robben, he don't care about missing. That is not part of his. Like, I just get the defense, smack you on the ass, wrestle you, tackle you. I don't have to worry about offense. Well, Dylan average is 20 now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You go over three, over four. You don't even want to talk trash no more because now you got to focus again.
Starting point is 00:42:58 You got to get back. Like, you don't talk yourself out of your own game to the point. It's like, yo, hey, how about this? Do what we do as offensive players. Just wait until your hit bucket and start talking trash. You can't guard me. Like, you need to change the narrative for yourself and be more of an offensive-minded thinker
Starting point is 00:43:17 because trying to stop someone who's going to shoot all the time and you're trying to keep up your 20-point average, you can dial yourself down on accident. Like, what do you go last night? Three for 12. He's one for seven from the three. Yeah, yeah, you do this. He talked yourself out of the game.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Should he go talk to, like, Ron Artes? Somebody like that. Say it again? Like Ron Artes. I mean, I mean, I'm looking at Ron Artes' stats. I mean, he was averaging 20, 18, but he was still, uh, he was wild and getting guys' face, but he still had a, but I'm saying like from the aspect of understanding when to be that in.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Nah, okay, Ron Artez was, he, he was different because he didn't really talk to you didn't talk. He didn't talk. No, talk, but he was still known as a, like, you know, like, you know, like, you're not, you're not, you're not, you don't see none of his emotions. So you don't know what's going on over there. You just feel it. Feel the hard hiss, the elbows and the mouth. You don't know if he's frustrated or not. Right. So it's more of a Gary Payton. Remember, Gary Payton came in as a, only a defender, right? That's where he started. Okay. Right. Then, you know, he got his office together, but he was a guy who talked trash the whole game.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Yeah. And still had to put points on. Right? You're talking about, I got to guard Jordan, stop Jordan and put points in because I'm one of the scores on his team. So those are the type of guys he has to talk to. Okay. And ask questions, how do you keep, you know, once you get to this level, how do you keep your offense into it?
Starting point is 00:44:53 Yeah, because it just has, you got to be able to do it, man. Like that. Like, you got to be able to talk and play, right? You can't, like, that's the beauty about it, right? You got to be able to do it. Like, Katie, like, he can do it. don't bother him, right? Whoever, like, when he was out there talking, the Denver game, was it Bruce Brown?
Starting point is 00:45:12 Yep. It doesn't phase him, right? Because we are here to hoop. I'm going to talk shit and bust your ass simultaneously. That has to be your mentality, right? You can't let your psyche get the best of you where you're not contributing and helping your team. GP did it well, other guy, Michael Jordan did it well, Kobe did it well.
Starting point is 00:45:34 You say something to him, you know what it was, right? I'm going to bust your ass while talking shit to you. And I'm going to stop you. And I'm going to come guard you, right? That's a thing. And I'm going to come guard you. So it ain't like we're going to be
Starting point is 00:45:48 on opposite sides of the court. Like, no, I'm going to come stand next to you. Right? You're going to guard me, and I'm a damn sure going to make sure I'm going to go ahead. It wasn't a matchup to start the game, but you started running your mouth. Now I want this action.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Now I got to try. Now I'm going to turn your water off. So, Gil, remember the, playoff series a few years back, Lakers, Memphis. When Jah was at his superstar best, I thought Memphis was a little better than your Lakers. And what did Dylan the villain do? He started going after LeBron to the point he was even going after him
Starting point is 00:46:22 in the Lakers huddle before tip off. He's going over there and antagonizing. And to the meeting, he's calling him an old man. Remember this? Yep. You just can't. There's a line you can't cross. even though LeBron might be a little more susceptible to that than KD is,
Starting point is 00:46:41 but if you cross that line, the best LeBron I've ever seen is angry LeBron. And it doesn't happen very often, but when somebody courtside gets under his skin says something, we've seen it happen in LeBron's past, where somebody heckled him, got under his skin, and he just goes crazy. I wish we'd see more of that guy
Starting point is 00:47:03 when he just plays flat out angry and Dylan the villain sent LeBron over the angry edge and it was spectacular to watch. And after that series, the Memphis GM made it clear publicly I have seen enough of Dylan Brooks. That they basically
Starting point is 00:47:22 scapegoated him for the whole series because he deserved it. But do you need, but when the rest of your team is quote unquote finesse players, do you need a Dylan Brooks? Yes. But is he physical?
Starting point is 00:47:41 Is he, is he, is he, is he, is he? And this NBA, yes. And where the game is played now, I would say yes. But like, in order to be successful, you need a few assholes over there. Okay, he is that. You need somebody that's a designated asshole. Yeah, you need somebody that's not going to deviate from it.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Oh, I got that. But I think, But is he a bad MF? No. Is somebody you're afraid of physically? No, no, no, not that. He's somebody that's annoying. That you know, like, he's annoying.
Starting point is 00:48:18 He's annoying. He's just like, here we go. I think you need somebody when shit gets going. If the game is going a certain way, in order to get us going, we need somebody coming there and mix it up and for us to have to rally together and all. Like, we need that at times. There's a time and place for it.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Of course, we don't need it. But Dennis Rodman, I covered Dennis Rodman in Chicago. He was as fierce a below the rim rebounder as ever stepped on an NBA floor. So he's backing it up. He's a bad MF. You can't deal with him. They couldn't keep him off the glass. And he was very physical and scary physical.
Starting point is 00:49:03 And I don't see that from Dylan Brooks. He's a good defender. Is he a great? defender? No. Is he an overpowering physical? No. Has Dylan Brooks played with any superstars yet? Like Dennis Robin? Jaw. I mean...
Starting point is 00:49:19 Jaws at his best. No? So so Dylan Brooks played with LeBron. I mean like, you're talking about a young guy. Yeah, yeah. Trying to figure out what he is. Right? So the only superstar he really played with that Ben to the level would have been that Derek Rose when Derek Rose got there. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:49:36 I think Derek left or he left. when Derek Rose was there. But that would have been the only superstar. Right. But don't you think his control would be different if he played with a guy like KD? If he played with a guy like Steph Curry, if he played with a guy like LeBron.
Starting point is 00:49:49 Like Dennis Robin, right? I'm playing with Michael Jordan. So I know my level of... No. Like, you know... He's playing with Booker. Huh? He's playing with Booker.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Booker's on the same level as... Like, Michael... I mean, as... As... As... I mean, there's only like 4 of them. That's, you know... I don't think he...
Starting point is 00:50:06 I know, but what I'm saying, like, Dennis Robin, he... played with the bad boys with Isaiah Thomas. Like he's playing with these superstar guys to where he has to have a level headed. Like you're not going to be, like you're not going to come in here and just act like you. But he did.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Who? Dennis Robin did. Did what he wanted to do? He didn't do that with the Bulls? Yes, he didn't. He didn't do that. He went to the Vegas. No, right.
Starting point is 00:50:24 No, right. Right, that's fine. We let, but we're wet. But at the end of the day, you still, you know what time it is though. No. At the end of the day. No, no.
Starting point is 00:50:31 Okay. So why did he come back and win? The thing with Dennis Robin is, I am your Michael Jordan, you're gifted at putting that ball in the basket and defense. I'm great also at rebounding
Starting point is 00:50:44 and stopping people also. So we're both the elites at what we do, right? I don't say none of you. You're not going to say none to me because when I get out there, yeah, I parted all night. I just got in. But I'm going to have 18 rebounds.
Starting point is 00:51:01 I'm going to stop my man. I'm going to do that. So you don't need to tell Dennis robin' nothing because Dennis Rodman is going to show up what he does. Dylan Brooks is not that type of defensive players. Because he doesn't have. Like if Wendy was talking trash, he can back it up. Because he's not playing with those type of players. So the level of what it, like the thing, I'm playing with the Bulls, bro.
Starting point is 00:51:23 I'm on like this is the top of the top of the level. I'm playing with Detroit Pistons. This is the top of the level. Of course, I'm going to do my thing, but I'm definitely going to come here and do my job because of who I'm playing with. I'm playing with Michael Jordan. So, of course, I'm not going to overdo. Yes, I am great, but I also know, listen, I better do this.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Dylan Brooks don't have that because he's not playing with a superstar like that. He's not playing with a LeBron James and Aluka. If he was on the Lakers right now, Dylan Brooks ain't doing all that. Yes, he is. No, he's not. No, he's not. He's not. He's not.
Starting point is 00:51:52 But he's not. You're playing with a superstar. It's too much on the line. Dennis Roman is a superstar. But it's a lot on the line, too. See, it's a lot on the line. See, if he's playing with the Lakers, it's a lot on the line. I don't think you know Dennis Robin.
Starting point is 00:52:05 He partied every night. He came from the club to the game. It's a lot on the line. A lot on the line. I'm coming from the club to the game. I didn't care what Michael Jordan was saying. I didn't care what Phil Jackson was there. But that was his routine.
Starting point is 00:52:18 I'm coming from the club to the game because I do what I do. I'm a defensive, I want defense player to year coming off the bench. I'm one of only two people in. in the history that was a bench player that when I got in, I shut shit down. Right? So that's what he was. Right? The headache probably, they're like, okay, he's a headache.
Starting point is 00:52:46 We'll take it. We'll take him. We'll take our chances with it because no matter what he does, we know what he's going to bring. That's Dylan is not that guy. He's made a name for just targeting these guys, right? That's where we know him from. We don't know him from the production of shutting shit down, right? That's Draymond Green.
Starting point is 00:53:05 You know what I mean? That's that type of guy. Trashaw could do whatever he wanted to up because he has the awards that's going to come with it. So it's very... Because of who he's playing with too, though. Look we play with.
Starting point is 00:53:14 But did he learn anything, though? Who? Dremont. You got kicked out of a fucking finals game. You got suspended for a finals game. Yeah, but we got that one. But I'm just saying... But we got four, though.
Starting point is 00:53:27 He got four. But the point I'm making is guys like, they do. they need that, right? If Dylan Brooks wasn't that, he wouldn't be in the NBA. If Draymond wasn't that, he wouldn't be in the NBA. Because they're good basketball players, but there are other people that could feel that role as well.
Starting point is 00:53:51 So they have to be that. So you said if Dylan Brooks played for the Lakers, would he be doing all that? And I said, yes, because if Dylan Brooks, Brooks is not doing that. Dylan Brooks is not an NBA. No, I'm talking about all the other stuff that Skip is saying, like all the, like with the time in place.
Starting point is 00:54:11 It's like, yo, LeBrona's out there. Hey, man, you know what timing is. Hey, we ain't doing that. Knock that shit out. Like, it's going to hit different. You don't think Steph and Katie them said that shit to Draymond? Yeah. And what happened?
Starting point is 00:54:23 And they won two rings. But they won two rings. And he got kicked. So if he don't get suspended for game five. That was before. You're talking about before Katie came. But here you go. I mean, it sounds like I hate it, Joe.
Starting point is 00:54:38 With LeBron or a superstar, technically, Dylan Brooks takes the pressure off of them, right? Because he's going to guard the best player. He's going to do all that, right? So it kind of takes the pressure off of them in that sense. But one thing that these super defenders, especially at the guard position, some super defenders. The super defenders, the trash talking defenders, right? It's the trash talking ones.
Starting point is 00:55:04 One thing that they haven't calculated, and they will never calculate, there's nothing you're going to say that's going to get under a superstar skin. Remember, a superstar has been a superstar since he was little. He doesn't heard everything under the sun from his own teammates wanting him to pass the ball, from overrated all through high school, from Kala.
Starting point is 00:55:31 He's done heard it all from. every arena he's done went through. Trash talking is what he knows. He's the only one that's coming to arena where the whole crowd is booing him. And he's out there buzzing that. So trash talking him makes him go harder. Right? So you come in the game and he's just chilling, passing the ball around.
Starting point is 00:55:49 We're just over here in Memphis. And now you want to get it crack it? You know what? I needed this. I was going to take the day off. Let's go. Let's go. And that's what ends up happening.
Starting point is 00:56:01 Like, we've mentally, like, we already know. All right, I'm playing against Katie. LeBron and Katie, we know y'all going to show up. Curry, whoever has matches it, going to show up. It beat him when we go play Utah, Memphis, Blazers, right? Those things, wizards, right? It's like, oh, man, all right, we just, and somebody started getting a yapping. Somebody get the yapping, start talking trash, and that's how you get them numbers put on you.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Yeah, we was playing the bobcats, the Knicks. What's the boy, Henderson? Played for the bob, bobcats got to run in his mouth. Mello? Yeah, buddy. Yeah. Hey, Jack. I was over there like, dude, I was over.
Starting point is 00:56:50 I was on to play, man, dude, shut up. Hey, man, leave him alone now, man. He was trying to help him. Yeah, green light. Now that was ultra green. Yeah, dude, 08. Go ahead, bro. No, the only reason why I said that is because Ron Artes, when he went to the Lakers, they won a championship.
Starting point is 00:57:08 And him and Kobe had this little fuse every time they played. So Ron, Ted's and Kobe, right? So I just feel like if Dylan Brooks is on the same team with LeBron or with the Kady or with the staff or whatever, like it's different. Because I'm trying to win now, right? So I just feel like if that – I've seen it before. I'm just saying I've seen Ron and Kobe bumps head. in Houston. They bought the fight,
Starting point is 00:57:29 and then when they get on the same team, oh, it's time. That's Kobe, because he's a psychopath. And he was the same place. So Kobe won't. LeBron James is a psychopath.
Starting point is 00:57:37 No, no, no, no. Yes, he is to be playing this. He had a Laker jersey on, didn't he elbow James in the back of his shit? For no reason.
Starting point is 00:57:45 So, no, I know, but what I'm saying, there's no, there's no, I didn't say he turned it off as well. They respect the guy. They still won it, though. They respect the guy.
Starting point is 00:57:54 Who? But the guy has nothing to do with it. No, no, I'm saying me. Like, Cobb is a different person, right? He's the guy that when he comes into a room, if you're scared, he don't respect you. Right? So if you ever look at the players he brung and he went out and got,
Starting point is 00:58:18 have you noticed the same people who challenged him? Took the challenge, right? Him and Ron Artesse, let me get him. Matt Barnes, with all that. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He wants the guy. that he knows where. Well, you're going to come at me.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Okay. Well, then I need to have you on my team. Right? You know what the worst. I remember someone saying is. Someone was saying something about a player, right? And, you know, like in the locker room, like, if you back down to me in practice, right? If we're going at, I'm talking trash and you back out of that, that trash talking, you're not, what are you going to do when AI and Cole is going to do?
Starting point is 00:58:55 I'm not even, that's what you're going to do? Oh, you are no good. us. Just that simple. Me and you talking trash. I'm trying to see where you at mentally. And then you check out and you can't perform. Bro, what do you? Like, are you not even going to compete when Coveham start talking to you?
Starting point is 00:59:10 And that's how we judge talent. We judge who's in that foxhole with us. Right? So with Dillon Brooks, Cole would love Dillon Brooks. Going out there, going after only the Big Fish. Like, hey, I don't care if you're scoring 30 on you. They're scoring 30 on you.
Starting point is 00:59:26 You were taking that challenge every single time. That's what he was in respect of it. And then he'll start teaching him little techniques and stuff like that, but that's him. Everybody else's like, bro, you're a number, bro. So to your point about Jordan and Rodman, only one time when I was there, did Jordan ever call out Rodman publicly for his behavior? And he might have done it privately, and we didn't know about it. But I don't think he mattered, minded the Madonna stuff. off the floor, staying on all night.
Starting point is 00:59:59 But one night before a home playoff game, first round playoff game against nobody, against New Jersey, Rodman showed up about 20 minutes before tip-off, and Jordan would not live with that. You just don't do that. And the Chicago traffic, as you guys probably know, and remember, it's awful before those games.
Starting point is 01:00:18 You just have to figure out how to get downtown two hours before the game, three hours before the game. and Jordan started his remarks to the media that night with, we don't need any more of this shit from Dennis Rodman. That's a quote that started unprovoked. He just volunteered that to the media that night. That was the only time I ever saw him call out Dennis Rodman,
Starting point is 01:00:42 but that was about showing up on time. You can do whatever you want. You can stay out all night. You can come straight from the club, but you better come two hours before the game, three hours before the game. So Jordan's just all about the discipline of showing up of being prepared to play the basketball game that night at the highest level.
Starting point is 01:01:06 So that was it. You know the way San Antonio organization has been noted for being, right? Yeah. They went and signed Dennis. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. But look at the situations that Dennis is right?
Starting point is 01:01:23 He's in winning situations where a lot of is on the table. He's a winner. Yes, no, but for sure. But I think Dylan Brooks plays as a winner too. I'm not saying, like, in Memphis, they were getting to the playoffs. I'm not, like, I don't think he doesn't play to win, but he hasn't been in an environment to where he is on that level and where it matters the most.
Starting point is 01:01:41 Like, he went to Memphis where they're trying to, like, you know, they're trying to win. Yeah, they're young. They're coming up. They're young. But, like, give him an opportunity to go play for a team that's in Boston or something. Like, have him be around that type of atmosphere. We'll see.
Starting point is 01:01:53 Because if he's a psycho Cycles know how to When it's time to win I'm a cycle by also I ain't that damn I ain't that bigger than the program now Come on Yeah
Starting point is 01:02:03 Like when you're talking about With a superstar And if you aren't Like if they're the offensive side And you're not the defensive side of that And you're just a mediocre Defensive player That's talking trash
Starting point is 01:02:16 I'm good But he's not He's not good He's not mediocre right now No, what I'm saying? No, no, not. I'm talking about defensively. Right now he's turning it into a two-way player.
Starting point is 01:02:28 That's what I'm saying. You don't need the gimmick of the defense anymore because you can hype yourself off of buckets. Yeah. Right? Okay. Right. Before he was hyped off of defense,
Starting point is 01:02:38 and then now, you know what I mean? Defense would, I don't have no fourth option. I don't have no production. John, Jaron, Bain. Him, he was the fourth option, so I should, I got to get it where I can. That's that. Like, no matter how many shots Draymond missed from the three.
Starting point is 01:02:53 He's still locking down down there because his shooting is just like, hey, if I'm open, I'm open. There's nothing you're going to say that bothers my trust. When you're averaging 20 points a game, it's different. 20 points again, that's a bigger contract. Now, I care about the shots that I'm shooting. So now if I'm missing and you start talking trash, I'm now the one running.
Starting point is 01:03:20 You think he'd be looked at different if he was in Miami with the way they run their stuff? No, listen, you remember I said it earlier, man, I said, you know what? He trained too hard this summer on skill development. You can see he put in a lot of work to be disproductive
Starting point is 01:03:42 to still only be known as Dylan the villain. You have outgrown. Okay, okay. No one always average in 20. Like nobody, no one would know he's average in 20. No, no, yeah. The antics and everything is out. It outweighed.
Starting point is 01:03:56 I do that. Oh, it's still Dillon, Dillon. Even though he's averaging 20 points a game. I do that. He needs to stand on these buckets. So Brooks the bucket instead of,
Starting point is 01:04:03 yeah, I'm, yeah, I was saying, or just Dillon Brooks? Yeah. Or just Dillon Brooks. I'm a bucket getter now.
Starting point is 01:04:09 I'll be saying, I'm a bucket getter now. Defensive players got to stop me. I can only stop myself at this point. I would start doing stuff like that. You know what I mean? The defensive side, you've outgrown the Dillon,
Starting point is 01:04:22 the villain. All right. Let's keep this thing. Moving, got some more things to discuss. So let's head over to Milwaukee with the Janus and Buck Saga taking yet another turn as tensions continue. So this past weekend, NBA announced they were investigating the Bucks for potential violations of the player participation policy for their handling of Janus's knee injury. Yonis been sidelined since March 15th after hyper-extending his knee in the game against the Pacers, now missed 12 straight games with the team is describing as a bone bruise before the Bucs game against the game. the Celtics this past Friday, Yannis was very candid about being healthy enough to play
Starting point is 01:04:59 and the buck sitting him against his wishes. I'm available to play today right now. I'm available. Do you look like I'm not available? No, you tell me you guys be around me. Do I look like I'm hurting? Good. So I don't see myself in the first 12.
Starting point is 01:05:15 I don't see it. I don't see myself in the start of the lineup. Oh, that's pretty much, I don't know, I don't know what game is being played right here. I just want to be part of it. Especially like, look, I'm like, I understand. I'm a vet. I've been here in half years. You know, and I understand. The team gets eliminated from the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Be smart, think of your body. You know, being in and out, being in the minute's restriction. Just to be careful. They will pray for the next season, for the next generation for the young person who gets what you need to go out. I get that. But that wasn't the time that this took place.
Starting point is 01:05:55 that this took place that's what bothers me something like you wait the white flower and I don't do that I am sorry I don't I'm saying I will never I never will sorry you know who you're dealing with so for for somebody to come and tell me that to not play or to not compete it's like it's like it's up in my face so I don't know where the relationship goes on there we got to go definitely in a couple's therapy go consultation couple's therapy sit down you know Tell the side, I'm telling my side, let me be finding a solution. I'm going to vote. Right?
Starting point is 01:06:30 That's the word. Find a solution to get it. Just in couple's therapy with him in the books. So Janus went on to say, I've never seen a case of my caliber of player saying it publicly. I want to F in play. You know what I'm saying. I don't think I've seen this. So if there needs to be an investigation, great.
Starting point is 01:06:46 There should be. I don't know. There should be until we figure something out. Yonis was ruled out for the Bucks game against the Nets Tuesday. In the interview with the athletics, Eric name, Bucks GM John Horst said the following. He's not clear to play yet in the game, and we're going to continue to evaluate it.
Starting point is 01:07:00 I don't know what the outcome in that world will be, but the only lens has been to make our best professional judgment for him and for us, and it has nothing to do with draft picks, nothing to do with tanking, everything to do with the health of the player. So the Bucks have told investigators that Yonis declined the opportunity to play three-on-three scrimmages
Starting point is 01:07:18 as a part of his return protocol from his knee injury. Yonis has told the NBA that is he healthy enough to return to the rest of the game? action regardless obviously mr. B one of the motivating factors is Janus desire to play with his brothers Alex and Thanassus who made history as the first trio of brothers to be on the same active NBA roster I think I was got his first points recently you were out heavy in Milwaukee I was out there a couple weeks ago looked at Yannis working out before the game against the Clippers looked
Starting point is 01:07:43 like he was able willing ready to play in that particular game but mr. Bish a reaction to the messy situation going on with Janus and the Bucks right now I I mean, well, both, you know, both don't want to look like the bad guy, but, you know, they both look like the bad guys right now. I mean, because they both can't figure it out. I mean, he's healthy. I mean, he looked healthy to me when I was out there and he was working out to me. But they got a game, maybe Friday or something. You know, if I'm honest, I would want to play with my brothers.
Starting point is 01:08:16 I'm sure that would be the last time they'll probably, you know, last home game together. But it's just a, you know, it's an unfortunate situation because, you know, this should have been done behind closed doors. I don't think both, I think both sides. I mean, I think the fans and everybody, they understand, you know, what it is. I mean, this is a guy who brought a championship, you know, to the city in 50 years. So, you know, he's done his job. John Horace, you know, John Hammond, you know, who drafted him. He drafted me also.
Starting point is 01:08:46 You know, he knew what he was doing. And, you know, Janus checked off everything that you can think of that you can think of that as a Milwaukee Bug player. So hopefully they figure it out. You know, if Yonis wants to play and this is somebody that you want to come back, I would let him play. But it's definitely going to have to be some changes being made
Starting point is 01:09:06 from top to bottom. So, but that's just between the Milwaukee Bucks in the situation. But it is ugly and it's unfortunate right now. It's between who? No, he said it's us. It's everybody. Couple couples therapy. He put everybody. Now it's, yeah, it's publicly.
Starting point is 01:09:25 But yeah. I don't know, man. It's unfortunate. I love it. I love it. Why do you love it, Gil? Because it proves over and over that load management was never part of a player's DNA. It's always been the upper management.
Starting point is 01:09:50 And they've been getting called out over and over, but nobody tends to listen. And what I honestly said is he's the only superstar to publicly come out and say something, you know, because he has the advantage right now, because, you know. Right. So, listen, it's business. Like, we're looking for ping pong.
Starting point is 01:10:13 I don't care what they say, right? The rules change next year. Everything stills apply this year. We tank this year, we get one of these nice little phenoms. coming in the Western name, we're good. We have something moving forward, right? So I'm not going to mess that up, letting you come in here and play, put us in the playing game.
Starting point is 01:10:32 We win the playing game. Now we're in the playoffs. Now we're the AFC'd and now we got the 16th pick with the sorry-ass team. No, that's not what we're going to do. You're going to sit over there. You're going to let the NASIS and... What's the other one? Alex.
Starting point is 01:10:47 Alex? Alex. Oh, he got a regular name. Alex. He must be the oldest one. No, he's the youngest. He's the youngest. He's the youngest.
Starting point is 01:10:54 Oh, it's the nasas. They're Americanized. We got Americanized, Alex. All right. So I know you want to play with them. Cool, right? Rob and Alexandros. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:11:04 There we go. There we go. There's still Greco. But obviously, this is about the future. You're this far into where you guys are. You might as well just continue to sinking. There's no point of we are already halfway. You know, the.
Starting point is 01:11:21 boat is already halfway to the bottom. There ain't no point of trying to patch it up now. Now, if you want to play there because you want to play with your brother, cool. Come on, let's go. All three y'all start. Run up and down. Sup.
Starting point is 01:11:34 Get them out. This Friday. This Friday. I'm taking them out. Yeah, we could do it this Friday. I'm taking them out. I'm going to play them for one. I'm going to piss them off.
Starting point is 01:11:42 Playing one minute. So, Mr. Stats up since you want to be out there so much. Mr. Stats. You want to run out there with your mouth. I say, oh, it still look bruised. It still look bruised, bone bruised. Because, you know, it's a bone bruise. That means you can only see if it's healed through MRI.
Starting point is 01:12:00 You can't tell me it's fixed. MRI said it still. You took my point out. I was going to make it off. Like, you, he can say how he feels all he wants. Hey, that MRI is saying something different. You see this spot right here? The MRI, you see this spot right here?
Starting point is 01:12:18 That spot that they put there. That spot say you ain't healthy. That spot. Hey, trust me, boneproof, dog. He can say he feel good all he wants. Yeah. Right? MRI telling them people, if it's saying he health or the veins, they go on with the medical thing, right?
Starting point is 01:12:32 That's why they use the key word in that he is not cleared. He's not cleared. He didn't want to play three on three. He didn't want to play. So he is not cleared. Come run these three. So we can continue down this path, right? But they have 31 wins on the season.
Starting point is 01:12:49 It's no guarantee of a top 10 pick Right? They get the lesser of theirs And the Pelicans picks So Pelicans We traded that pick to the Hawks For Derek Queen, if I'm not mistaken Okay, that's a good pick
Starting point is 01:13:02 So they get the lowest between who? Potentially The lowest between that So that should be top three, top five They should be top ten Maybe Maybe Yeah, I'm just saying
Starting point is 01:13:11 Maybe Listen, if you were in the top 10 this year You should get someone good Yeah, but you can't be thinking That the same shit gonna happen to happen to the Mavericks last year You got a one half a percent chance and you get the number one pick. You can't rely on that.
Starting point is 01:13:24 Right? But small market team, it may get a little. Pelicans get the number one pick and get the number one pick. They keep it, right? I think it goes to the Hawks. It goes to the Hawks. Yeah. So either way it goes.
Starting point is 01:13:34 And then the Bucks would keep their pick. Now the Bucs get the number one pick, it goes to the Hawks. So whoever gets the number one put to between the Bucks and the New Orleans, it goes to the hog. Whoever gets the higher pick that goes to the Hawks and then the Bucs would get the less favorite one goes pick. So to B's point, right, everybody looked bad in this situation. There's no win in this situation right now, right?
Starting point is 01:13:54 Because there's no guarantees. It's not like the NFL. You know where you're going to pick. You lose, you finish certain record. You got 12, 8, 6 wins, you're going to pick 5. You got 4 wins, you're going to pick 2. It ain't like that. Proper tanking.
Starting point is 01:14:10 Yeah, you can do that in NFL, right? This is not that. So it's a nasty, it's a nasty divorce going on, right? People slinging mud now, right? You're honest, he feels he needs to defend himself. The bugs feel he needs to defend themselves. So I see a nasty ending coming this summer, right?
Starting point is 01:14:33 And that's them part ways. There's no coming back from. But I think it's going, but if it's nasty is between them, not the fans. I don't think the fans are, like, like, like, like, I think the fans are happy. Just whatever happens just happens. Like, because the fans, you will love. already, no, listen, the fans already love Yonis for what he's done.
Starting point is 01:14:50 So it's not that. So they just want him to be happy and, you know, whatever it is. I don't think the fans would be like, oh, man, like he trade, no, no, no, the fans ain't going to be tripping. No, yeah, yeah, I believe. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, they're not going to be tripping.
Starting point is 01:15:02 Yeah, not, not, but as far as like, yeah, it's like my situation when I left the nets. Yeah. It's not. It's not. Well, we want him. He won his money, but he wants to play. He want to, it ain't him.
Starting point is 01:15:12 So if anything get nasty, it's just going to be between. The fans are collateral damage in this now. The Bucks fans are collateral damage in this situation. It's very unfortunate. But yeah, the writing's on the wall, man. It's time for him to move around. It's time for him to find his peace again and go out and do what he loves doing.
Starting point is 01:15:32 It's competing at a high level. And you know he's going to do that. So, yeah, let's just get it done, man. Let's shift over to you, Skip. This, John, the situation has been going on for a while. Now, Shams dropped the article yesterday. detailing a lot of stuff that we already knew, but essentially that Yannes and his crew behind the scenes have been saying, look, it's time to move on. Get me out of here.
Starting point is 01:15:52 I'll never publicly request a trade or try to embarrass a franchise, but get me out of here in New York. Nix were reportedly his favorite or his preferred destination, only spot it was going to. So when you see this situation going on with Yannis and the Bucking now, he's made comments all season, even last summer, maybe I'll stay, maybe I'll go, maybe I can go to Denver, maybe I can go here. but what do you make of this messy situation with yon? I read every word of Shams piece. It was well done. Learned a lot. I'm sure Brandon already knows all of the above or below.
Starting point is 01:16:23 It's all of the above, right? This is just what's hard for me to believe that the Milwaukee Bucks in five years have gone from NBA champions to maybe the biggest mess I can remember in the history of the NBA, because it's not a funny mess. It's a sorry, nasty mess, as you just said. It's ugly, personal mess. And it's hard to believe it got to this point.
Starting point is 01:16:53 Although, I'm not trying to put you on the hot seat here, but when Jimmy Haslam gets involved with a team, as he has been with the Cleveland Browns and the National Football League, it turns toward clown show to me. And he's heavily involved in this one. So to your point, Joe, about, the offseason, he made it clear, I want to go to the Knicks.
Starting point is 01:17:17 And they said, well, give us one more shot. We're going to send Dane back to Portland, and we're going to go get Miles Turner, and they did. Okay. And Yonah says, okay, I'll try it. And they immediately fall to 9 and 13, right out of the gate. And he's like, that's it. And his agent goes to him, his agent also named Alex from Greece. Alex to Russia.
Starting point is 01:17:38 Yeah. And they just say, okay, that's enough. Nine and 13, get us out. We went out. And the trade deadline gets closer and closer. And everybody, obviously, wants Janus, and the heat make their best offer, and the Timberwolves and the Golden State Warriors.
Starting point is 01:17:56 Everybody is clamoring. I think everybody in the league made an offer for Janus at the trade deadline. And your GM Horst, according to everybody around the league, through Shams, he wouldn't return phone calls. It's like the owners are saying, oh, screw him. You know, just make him wait, make him sweat, because we'll just hang on to his ass for the rest of the year.
Starting point is 01:18:20 That's how it came across to me. That we're just going to hold, we'll just make him sweat for the last, whatever it is, three months of the season. And they're mathematical eliminated on March 28th. And now, remember, Janus has been hurt five times this year. and I think they're like legit injuries until now. I'm not sure about this one,
Starting point is 01:18:42 but the previous four, he was hurt. I'm pretty sure because it was his choice to say, I'm hurt, I can't go. And with him on the floor this year, they're 17 and 19. So there are two games under 500 with Janus playing basketball for them. So it's everything is wrong about this. And to Brandon's initial point,
Starting point is 01:19:03 it's like everybody's the bad guy. It's hard to say it's his fault. No, it's all their fault because it got personal. And it got so messy personal that now we get to what's happening. And to your point, he does want to play to play with his brothers. I get that. And yet there are two other things operating here. He's got a Nike deal that pays him off if he plays 41 plus games,
Starting point is 01:19:34 and he ain't going to get there. He did not get. Okay. So that's a big chunk of money that he's not happy about losing. And then finally, it appears to me it got so personal. He actually wants to play to try to win games to damage their ping pong ball chances. Like he wants to play to screw them. I'm going to win games and screw these people because they wouldn't let me leave twice in the offseason at the trade deadline.
Starting point is 01:20:00 And it's just, it's hard to believe. And it feels like Janus's lost heart. Doc's on his way out, and I love Doc, but man, this team is completely quit. Just quit, quit, quit on everybody. I told him to check his resume. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. But from the beginning, right?
Starting point is 01:20:18 Doobilly. When they fired Boodenhoes, right? Yeah. They all was like, they y'all do that for, right? Yep. Like, what y'all do that for? Yep. And it's been downhill since.
Starting point is 01:20:30 It has. It has been a shit show since they fired Mike Boodhosa. They've lost in the first round three straight years of the plows. three straight first round exits just for the record. I mean, that's how bad. He has a lot to do with them. I'm saying he hasn't been hurt. It's been a lot of changes.
Starting point is 01:20:44 Coaches, owners, Peter's gone. It's a lot of stuff. You know, the only thing that worries me is just like, you know, with the Bucks, it's like, you know, they're superstars, you know, that don't come back. And it's just like, you know, I just wonder what really goes on with, you know, the big dogs, the Ray Allen's, the Kareem's, the big O's. And then it's just like, you know, like there's, there are core superstars, the guys who who helped the city, like, who it is, you know, they don't come back.
Starting point is 01:21:14 And it's just kind of like, you know, it's kind of like, you know, like, I don't want to see this same situation happen with Yonnas, a guy who, you know what I'm saying, 50 years by the championship. And now, you know, he's looking at, oh, I don't ever want to come back to the city. It's like, man, this, you built this. Like, this is, like, this is you. Like, this whole new arena and everything. And it's just, you know, that's where it's looking like.
Starting point is 01:21:34 Huh? It's how you treated while you were there. You know. And it's just like. damn, like, you know, I just hope they can figure it out, you know, in a way because, I mean, this guy has a store right across the street from the damn arena. Anytime you're like going to a very big store, like, you know, it's just like, you know. You said one thing that they said, Skip said it's said they're sweating him out.
Starting point is 01:21:54 Mm-hmm. What do you think, you're sweating out who? That's what they think. Every team wants him. There's no sweat on him. The problem because the problem becomes you guys because I don't think you're understanding how chess plays. You're going to get your best options now before Tread.
Starting point is 01:22:21 Everyone's dumb. Agreed. Everyone's trying to win. I'm going to give you here, here, here, go. You three go, right? They don't know what they're giving up. They're not thinking. They're giving you the best options.
Starting point is 01:22:34 So you say, we don't want none of those. We're going to wait to the summer. Oh, now you have to be a genius in negotiation because I have all the summer. I get to sit back, relax. I get to really look. That's true. I get to really look at what you put.
Starting point is 01:22:48 See what I want now. Now I was about to, oh, my almost gave you these two pieces. Now we're going to take that off the table. Because now you have to get rid of them. Now we're going to play all of us is going to play the waiting game on you. You is playing it on Janus. We're going to play it on you because we're going to play it on you because We don't have to give you nothing.
Starting point is 01:23:08 Okay, but they didn't want Janus to go somewhere this June and win a championship despite them, right? To make them look down. I'm sorry. How that got to do with y'all? If he goes and win a championship, he's that good. It doesn't matter. How does that help you? You still got to think about you.
Starting point is 01:23:25 It's your team moving for. It's my organization. I don't care if you go win a championship. Did I get back pieces for me to build my team? Because obviously if you're that, you're not. You're that good. You won one here. So if you go team up with another superstar,
Starting point is 01:23:41 I'm pretty sure you're going to win another championship. So how does that affect me and my, it's an ego play personal? It's like the PG thing with Oklahoma City going to the Clippers with Shade and all. Like, it's like that, right? All right. Yeah, but why does it get to that? Like, why does it have to even get to that? Ego.
Starting point is 01:24:01 I mean, but I know, but why we just can't be like, yo, listen, man, you did what you did for here? I think everybody, boom, move, let's just go our way. Like, because at the end of the day, they all won. Because as I made you. Like, both won. But it ain't the same people that drafted it, right?
Starting point is 01:24:14 They got the same owner or the same people that drafted. So part of the same people. They're not invested in it. So they don't, they're not invested at all. They didn't build that championship. They don't care. Yeah, but why would I invest in something
Starting point is 01:24:27 and not like be, like, you know what I'm investing? I'm investing to the whole history, everything. Like from the jump. Like, if I'm buying it. A toy for them. I know, but if I'm buying a team, right, if I'm buying a team, I want the whole history. But you're not buying history unless you're buying the Lakers, the Cowboys, the Yankees, the Red Sox, or the papers. Every NBA team is here.
Starting point is 01:24:46 Right? When you're not, you're not buying history unless you're buying that. But they got one, two championships in existence, right? Yeah. You're not buying that. It's a shiny new toy. You got a brand new baguadi. Right?
Starting point is 01:24:59 And I'm a street racer. I'm not a collector. I'm a motherfucking drag. I'm a fast. furious out this bitch. This is what they're doing now. This is play shit for them. This ain't, if the people that drafted Janus and had the team that owned the team
Starting point is 01:25:14 when Janus was, now, this should be handled way different. Those people will respect his wishes. Listen, you know what, man, you've done so much for us, man, you brought us a championship, did this, we're going to make sure you go land on your feet here. It ain't that, unfortunately.
Starting point is 01:25:32 For the people of Milwaukee and for the fans, ain't there. Fortunately. Let me play devil's advocate here just because it seems like everything is put on the bucks, but Janus had to have some understanding and the knowledge of the moves that were being made. But you know, yeah. He was cool with Booting Hozer getting booted.
Starting point is 01:25:46 Listen. You don't. He won a day. Listen, if you have a job, right? Your job is your job, right? You're supposed to be scout and talent. I have an opinion. We played basketball in the summer together.
Starting point is 01:26:01 We work well together. I would like him on a team. Right? You're supposed to still do your research on if we actually fit in the NBA game with the NBA coaches' plays. Because the plays we did at the LA Fitness all summer, that ain't part of our playbook. But I do like them. We cool, right? That's my opinion.
Starting point is 01:26:21 Now, you have to do your job to see if it all matches up. So you telling me come get Dame and all that. We don't know. We don't know what it's going to be. mean we don't know what it's going to look like until you put it on the court right that that's how that works yeah but boon oh good booted so we got a top 75 dude to come though but just like but just like um but just like uh Dallas and lucca right it was easy for that owner to get rid of him I don't know him I have no relationship with him we never had lunch or dinner or none of this all I know is
Starting point is 01:27:01 he's the hot shot, he's talking back to me. I don't like him. Get him out of here. All I hear, don't play defense. He's fat, he is, he's that, he asshole. But you know who his guy is? Cooper Flagg. Guy drafted him.
Starting point is 01:27:16 That's my guy. Right? So that's how that works. When you come into something, you're bringing your own people in, you don't get a fuck about the other people. I don't have no history with them. Right? So you're like, okay, yeah, y'all, y'all built a little shit here, cool.
Starting point is 01:27:31 Let me get rid of them. Let me put my two cents on it, and we're going to see what I can do. You're just like, you can go to new teams, and they can vouch for certain coaches. Hey, man, this guy is a life where he's here. Hey, he's not my guy. Yeah. Right? He's not my guy.
Starting point is 01:27:43 He's not my guy, right? Just like kids coming in and transfer a porter and all that, hey, I ain't recruit you. Yep. I ain't recruit you. So you feel free to, hey, you can feel free to follow him. Follow your coach. Or I didn't recruit you. So it's unfortunate.
Starting point is 01:27:59 it, but I'm going to go get my guy. I'm going to go get my guy. I'm going to go get my guy. Deion with his son and the quarterback, right? They had a quarterback in Colorado when Deon took the job. You know what he told him, hey, I'm bringing my Louis with me. I got Louis. Right?
Starting point is 01:28:17 I got Louis luggage. I'm bringing my Louis with me. And that Louis were number two when he played quarterback. So, hey, you're nice. You've been here. Hit that photo. I'm going to need you to get in that. P, baby.
Starting point is 01:28:30 Quickly. Right now. You ain't did it yet. Them spots is getting filled up. I bet you're done. No, it's that, man. It's unfortunate, but we are here. Let's talk about now the future
Starting point is 01:28:41 with the future host for both sides. Obviously, like I said, Yonison's been comments have been very pointed at the bucks for the bulk of this season. Say it. What? Say it. Say it.
Starting point is 01:28:51 No. No, Lakers? Say it. There's no. Lakers? Say it. Speak it. Talk it.
Starting point is 01:28:59 Where are he going? Right? Well, that's now the conversation we need to have. So, like, Skip, like you mentioned. Sacramento. It's Champ. So, Sean's article, Bucks had the opportunity to move Yon's for the deadline. Seriously considered to trade with the heat, which would have centered on Tyler Hero, I believe it's from Milwaukee, Kalil Ware.
Starting point is 01:29:16 Other players, multiple draft picks, pick swaps. Same seems like a very good offer. Owners should believe the best move would be to hold on to Janus to receive better offers in the summer. Like you pointed out, not making that move with the deadline. They want to hold them. He's eligible for an extension in October, which will give a lot more insight into what he wants to do. But there's only a few teams that will have Supermax money. Do you know any of those teams off the top of right?
Starting point is 01:29:45 One is the Lakers. Oh. The Lakers? Okay. Yeah, we got Super Max money because one, LeBron's Supermax is coming off. And Luca never signed the Supermax to replace LeBron. And if you got a pick between Janus and AR, I think you pick Yonnie. You very well may be able to have both.
Starting point is 01:30:00 I'm to pick, I'll pick Janus. He's going to be in the Supermax, and then, hey, LeBron, if you want to come back. So A.R. is gone. A.R. is gone? is LeBron gone? So. I think Brown took a page. No, so this is how it works.
Starting point is 01:30:14 So it's kind of like, think about like Golden State, right? When Curry signed that $64 million deal, right? Then you had, which is your best player, but because his ankles, they got him to sign this deal before. I think he signed in October before that season started with the healthy game. Before for 44th or 44th or right? So he signed that deal. Then Steph becomes Steph and GOSA becomes Golden State. KD's up.
Starting point is 01:30:40 They have no max player under contract. So there's the only ones that can actually go out there and give him that money, right, without doing anything to their team. So here you have $50 million a year coming off with LeBron, right? Six. Huh? 56. 56. Then with Luca, Luca getting traded, not hitting Supermax,
Starting point is 01:31:02 he don't replace LeBron with the 50, right? So he falls under like option two. So he's like Jalen Brown with no Tatum money, right? So now we have-supermax already. Brown and Tatum both are Superman unless I'm tripping, right? No, he's like, Brown is like a little bit under. I thought they were signed for 300. I thought they went back to back, back-to-back.
Starting point is 01:31:23 The Brown signed his first. It was 300. And then Tatum did what? Supermax, but it was the next year, so the bread went out. Yeah, so when you look at AR, you're like, oh, wait, hold on, I got AR money and LeBron's money free. I can give LeBron's money to Yannis. Then I can say, hey, Bron, look, we got Yonis and Luca. We want you at the third option.
Starting point is 01:31:47 You want to take this AR 20, 20, 30 million a year? And I can then now have all three of them with the same money. If the Bronn comes off the books, I think AR has like a $27, $28 million cap hold. on them right now. So you take those two numbers out. But now, what do you... So that's $78 million... But what do you trade
Starting point is 01:32:03 to the bucks to get, you honest? I got Bronny Jr. He's going to get the jerseys in there. I got... Okay, one thing, we don't really have no real good assets unless they, you know, they want to take Rui.
Starting point is 01:32:18 You got a few pieces. It all depends on what they're doing. What they're trying to... Depends on what the... We want to... James. Like, what are you trying to do in the wall? Yon's could force the Buck's hand on me.
Starting point is 01:32:32 You said, D.J. Adden over there. I'm opting out next year. You keep me on this team. I'm not going to sign an extension with any other team you trade me to. Hey, hey. But now? You know what I would do if I'm the owner? Do it.
Starting point is 01:32:45 Carly the Bluff. Do it. Like, I never understand signing trades. I've never understood. Like, as the player, yes, sign and trade me. Like, give me your max money. and trade me to the destination I want. That's us.
Starting point is 01:33:00 As the organization, you really believe that I get six-year, 127 here, and I'm going to go five-year, 95-day-old. You really think I'm that dumb. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:33:17 I will let you walk, go out there and sign it, big man. Right? If you want to go there, it's going to cost you 30, 40 million. And owners never did that. Owners always did the sign and trade because they want pieces back. And it's like, when LeBron and Bosch did they deal, I would have said, all right, both of y'all go.
Starting point is 01:33:41 Let me see it. Let me see y'all both take $85 million each. You're not doing that. I'm not going to sign you to my max to then trade you to get some pieces back. But is that bad business for an organization then? Because now other people are looking at that. I was like, well, I want to come play here and get dead like, you're like, well, you left.
Starting point is 01:33:59 Okay. You left, you left. Right there. You opted out. You opted out. You was free to go do whatever you wanted to do, you know? So it's part of the game, but you're giving a player everything he wants if you're going to sign and trade him because you're scared to just lose him for nothing. Skip what you think?
Starting point is 01:34:16 Okay, so you can afford to pay Janus, but you can't pay for Janus because you don't have enough to pay for him as in. assets as in draft picks that would be the kind that Milwaukee would say yes to. Yeah, yeah, we're the opposite of Draymond Green in that skit. We got a hundred million cash. We don't need the assets.
Starting point is 01:34:40 We got it liquid. Oh, y'all is here? I did watch 80s show for a lot. Who has a hundred billion liquid? We do. Because we can pay him cash. We don't got no assets to give him. Right? It's one of those things where it's like if we
Starting point is 01:34:56 got to trade pieces. God, do you really, like, you can pick. You can pick. I mean, I'm just going to tell you, it's not what you won't over here. I don't know if I got anything that excites you over here. You got to bring in another team. Huh? I'm bringing another team.
Starting point is 01:35:11 Yeah, unless we bring in, you know, a team and, you know, it's. Because Milwaukee ain't just getting, like, anything. Like, they're going to get something back. But the problem is, there's only a few teams. You think so? They don't know what they're doing? I mean, so, okay, so what you said what? If they knew what they'd do
Starting point is 01:35:26 and they wouldn't handle the situation this way. So you said there's three teams, right? I mean, it's only a couple of teams that got the Supermax. Lakers, who else? No. No.
Starting point is 01:35:35 No. No, no. Yes. Brooklyn? No, no, because Brunson gave them a friendly deal. Philly, too. You can come off a cat. You can come off the tab.
Starting point is 01:35:44 Philly took a lot of, uh, within B's new contract. What, the 180? Yeah, he didn't sign the Super 80. Yeah, he signed none of that supermax. But he took, it was an extension on that. Yeah. Was it?
Starting point is 01:35:56 Yeah, he's time for 180. It was three for 180, so he took it. Yeah. So let me look briefly, just a brief surveying. It was three for 180. So Clippers would have the bread. Okay. Brooklyn.
Starting point is 01:36:09 Washington. Yeah, those don't know. I think, hawks, potentially. Bulls. Bulls? You said bulls? Yeah, nets. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:17 Potentially Grizzlies jazz. Ah, okay. Bulls. Brooklyn. Pistons, potentially. He's going right down the street. Chicago, he's going right down the street. Like, because what I do know about Janus, and he sees it,
Starting point is 01:36:32 like he's very in tune with how everything works, Nike contract, Disney. He knows him, his brand in a big market, is booming business. He knows that shoe contract. Chicago for sure, with them covers. He's going to want to land in L.A., New York, or Chicago for sure. Not Brooklyn. Yeah, Brooklyn.
Starting point is 01:37:00 Are you sure you- But Chicago with those colors, though? I dig it. Are you sure you would get MVP Janus at age 31 after 13 NBA years and three or four other pro years before that? You're sure you're going to get him? He hadn't won an MVP since 2020, so it's been six years. You're sure you're going to get the finals MVP in 21?
Starting point is 01:37:22 Will he be that guy for you? you immediately. Yes. I believe so. Motivation. 14th NBA season. Motivation. He cut from a different cloth.
Starting point is 01:37:34 But I also say this. We said on this couch, he has to change the way he plays or he's going to continually get hurt. True. He will continuously have the bump knees, the roll ankles. That will continue to happen if he doesn't change. Agree. How he plays to a half court more controlled environment, right?
Starting point is 01:38:00 That's why we're saying like he got to change his game. Because if you get that jump shot like he or whatever, is it something easier. You ain't got to do all that. Like post up, put him on the block, man. He's too gifted, man. 13 season, too athletic. I don't know what MVP or finals MVP, what he was doing.
Starting point is 01:38:23 But these last six years for him to lose. We know who he's losing it too. We know what they're doing. But yeah, I don't mind taking this 30 and 11 every year he bringing. I don't mind that. I'll take that. If he brings 60 from the field, if he brings this, I'm going to be happy with it. It don't have to be MVP.
Starting point is 01:38:43 But if there's not 30 and 11. Do you think he'll have less injuries if he plays with another superstar? Yes. It doesn't have to do as much as he has to do now. So maybe he won't have to change as much. just having somebody else like, you know. He doesn't have a choice, I don't think. It depends on who he's honest.
Starting point is 01:38:59 It depends on the story. It depends on how the other person plays. With the Lakers. What? With Luca. Does he have to change his game? With Luca, he, he don't have to change his game. But he might benefit for having Luca on his team.
Starting point is 01:39:15 Because Luca gets hit and gets fouled. And that would save him from getting hit and fouled. Right? People don't understand that is a very important thing, right? Like, let's say I have somebody like Brunson, right? For Brunson to really be dangerous, that penalty has to take effect to. But I don't want him to get hit seven times to then get to the penalty. So I would need someone to take off the hits night after night after night.
Starting point is 01:39:45 So I need another crash dummy that can take, you're going to take it, like having a Cori McGettie on your team, right? Oh, my God. Right? Oh, my. What's his numb? Ellen Brennan is sitting there like, yeah, all right? Yeah, go ahead, get them hits.
Starting point is 01:39:58 Now give me the ball. Now you have to play me straight up or I'm going to shoot free throw. Right? And I don't think people really calculate that into someone's game. And if Yonis can get with someone else who's going to take hits away from him, he's going to last longer. Because now I can sit here and do all this. You found me. I get to walk to the pito line.
Starting point is 01:40:22 Get the playback. That's why LeBron James gets to sit at the three-point line, and he don't have to do no heavy lifting, and then once they get in the penalty, that's when he becomes the train. I'm just going to come in. I'm going to do all that. So if he goes to Chicago.
Starting point is 01:40:40 Yeah, he got to do all this. He'll have to average 33 next year. Okay. He'll be back in the MVP conversation. He goes there because he has to average 33 and 14. And as much as a average, What about the Knicks? Nicks for Kat, I mean, it depends on it.
Starting point is 01:40:55 If they keep for Kat, I don't know. He got to go somewhere they got pieces in place, man. Now, because he's trying to compete and win and be able to do less. He needs shooters. He needs shooters and better pieces around him, right? And where that will be, we don't know, because I think things are going to change this summer with all the movement and all the tanking and the draft picks and people trying to go get top fives because they think they're going to be able to get AJ or.
Starting point is 01:41:20 You don't know right now on what it's going to look like for agency, but... So this summer is all about Janus. Like, you know, as they, you know, every summer is somebody, right? Every summer is that where they're going? Is it Janus this summer? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no. Especially now.
Starting point is 01:41:41 What's the funny is July 1st, everything's going to be frozen for a little bit. Right? Everybody's going to be waiting to see... Because everybody's going to, yeah, I need to, I need my cap space. I need to just against me to make some moves. Okay. All right, Janice. Whoever is going to trade for Janus, if you don't have the pieces, there's only one team that has a bunch of potential players that are usable, that are agile. That is Houston.
Starting point is 01:42:11 Houston has a jam log in the same type of position, which is three, four, five, two, three, one. Whatever it is 6-9 to 6-11 is of these athletes that I got. Go ahead. What you think? No, what you think? Go ahead. What you're thinking? Let me hear.
Starting point is 01:42:25 No, nothing. No, what I'm saying? Go ahead. You got it. So when I'm making, if I'm the Lakers and I'm trying to make a trade, I need to, I want to add Houston into it. Where I can use some of that talent, mix it in and say, here you go. Because they have a bunch of 6-11, 6-10 type of guys that are wing players that I'm going to need to run up and down. Right?
Starting point is 01:42:48 I need to draft my guard. I need to drive, whatever these guards, the DPs, the A Cubs and McHale, I'm trying to get one of them. If I can get one of them as my guard and then I can get Jabari Smith or whatever that's jumping out the gym a little bit. Cool. I'm good. I'm good on that. So that's the only way. There's only a few teams that are stuck.
Starting point is 01:43:12 They got a lot of, they've been having a lot of raw pieces for them. They're like six years now trying to figure out, you know, what they got over there. They keep in some jumpers. I can tell you that. What was you doing? They get after. No, I was, if would you trade Al P for Janus if you're Houston? Would you throw Al P in there?
Starting point is 01:43:31 Yes. Okay. Unfortunately. All right. I would as well. I would as well. I would just fit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:37 Yeah. And one of my kids. Thompson? Which one you want? You should. Thompson and Al P? Mm. Ooh.
Starting point is 01:43:49 The reason I will lean, I will lean with yes because I will be scared to have Yonis and A-Men on the court at the same time. Like, I better have nothing but shooters at that point. So if they ask for them, it would probably take me 48 hours to think about it. But I will probably lean yes, not wanting to do it, but I'm going to take the chance to have KD and Yonis. And you can get a guard. And then I can go by it. I wouldn't be happy with getting rid of A-Man because. It's just something he brings that just, it's just different.
Starting point is 01:44:24 Like we've seen in a play where he's like he dove to the basket, then at the frito line, he just jump off the wrong leg and just, like, you can't, you can't mimic that. Like I can sit with him all summer, give him a jump shot. I can get someone who can fly just off, off any leg. Instinct. Yeah. And if I'm coaching this something, if I,
Starting point is 01:44:49 If I'm in the coach this summer, it's like, hey, listen, what I need you to do is this summer, we're going to go 300 makes a day, twice a day, first 30, 40 days into this offseason. One thing I need you to do to take the next level to superstardom is I need you to have a jump shot. Because if you have a jump shot and they have to guard you out here, there's no one that's going to stop you there. But if half the defense is already sitting at the free throw line and you're still jumping over them, wait until they have to guard you at the three-point line or half court. So I would spend all summer trying to get 70,000 to 100,000 shots in that arm. Yeah, I don't care about no arms, tendonitis, none of that.
Starting point is 01:45:35 You're going to get a jump shot, goddamn it. Yeah, don't touch the rim, bro. You're going to hit a jump shot. That's the one thing you're going to get. Hey, before my senior Cincinnati, bro, like, hey, I don't think I dunk the basketball one time. That's what you do. You're going to be on the rim all ceases. Hey, I didn't touch the rim.
Starting point is 01:45:51 Right? What I need to do that for, I do that well. Right. But I need to work on this. So I, so to you, young fella, hey. Lock in that gym, brother. Like, I seen Jason, I've seen Jason Richardson. Like, go from a guy, everybody's sitting in the lane.
Starting point is 01:46:07 He's about the tomahawk double dunk on us. And then he sat on the shooting machine all summer long. To then become a three-point threat. Now you got to guard him out here. Now he's back doing double pumping on you. Man, after 13 years, you think all of a sudden you just flipped the switch and you got a jump shot? Who, Viannis? I'm talking about Thompson.
Starting point is 01:46:28 Oh, oh, amen. I mean, uh, Rondo, Jay Kid. No, later that they were over like, they were shooting. They were not. It was a long. It took a long time. Yeah, it was a lot of rips, brats. But I'm just saying, for the finals, I mean, it was not getting.
Starting point is 01:46:45 I'm just sad, so. But it wasn't like a, like, you got to do that. You're so, listen, you look at the stats. I've been top three in view. It's more ego than anything. I've been top three the last seven years. I'm one of the best players in the world doing this. The best players get better.
Starting point is 01:47:07 You know what I mean? But me sitting in the gym just shooting random jump shots like, you know what I mean? I'm dialing it in like that. You have to do that early in your career. Yeah. So you don't think you can do it now? He can. He needs to.
Starting point is 01:47:22 He needs to the last longer. He needs to. I mean, but that's what I'm saying. That's the part of getting better. Like, everybody, I feel like if you're great, even the great ones, Kobe Bryant, like, they still got, LeBron, they still got better. Like, Michael Jordan, they still got better. Like, you still took it to the next level.
Starting point is 01:47:39 Like, you wasn't, as much as your ego is what it is, you still was like, you know, I got to get better. Mike came back, everybody. Just say if it's not the jump shot, though, right? Okay. A post game, right? Free throws? Free throws in a post game, right?
Starting point is 01:47:53 It changes. That changes. If it's not the jump shot, get on that block, man. Like, I'm going to keep saying it until he fucking does it, right? Because I believe that he could be dominant on that block. Yo, get you. You don't get you, you know, it's your kiss. Right?
Starting point is 01:48:09 If you will get your ass on that block and don't deviate from it, man, These guys, they don't know how to play post-defense these days. He will get every shot he wants in the half court if he just... Two moves. Catch it. Because what you don't do... The sweep through, dunk. I mean...
Starting point is 01:48:30 Turn, sweep through. They cut it off, spin, dunk. Then come back, you can half spin jump hook. Hey, half spin, boom, boom, half spin jump hook. You don't want to go to like the Lakers, right, and play with Luca. and now you're the number two option. But your number two option still might be 31 and 12.
Starting point is 01:48:50 Yeah, but you're... He rolled it in a lot of three. Yeah, but you just said, like, ego, right? I've been, I've been the MVP. I've been the MVP twice. I've been finals MVP. And it's like, okay, well, yeah, that was then. But, okay, if your ego is still,
Starting point is 01:49:02 I don't want to get better, I don't work on this, then you're going to come to this team and be the second option. And then how's the ego going to hit that? But your second option. I mean, but I mean, but, I've been number one doing this my whole time, right? Like, you don't want to be number...
Starting point is 01:49:15 Do you think it's going to be a one and a two? If that happened, you think it's going to be one, two? I don't think it's going to be one, two. Luca just got the ball. I don't think it's one two in that situation. In that finals... I think it's one A and one B. I mean, in that finals, I mean, in that finals is going to count.
Starting point is 01:49:29 One A and one B. No, it's going to be the Kobe Bryant and Shaq situation. 1A1B. Yeah. So who's willing... I mean, I'm just... We already know... You can have 45 one night and not going to have 38.
Starting point is 01:49:40 or the night you can have 35 and I can have 32 it doesn't Luca's going to win an MVP The reason Lucas is going to win MVP Is because What Janice don't do That Luca does very well is
Starting point is 01:49:54 He's the one that's going to be passing the ball So you might have 40 That's 12, 14 assists Giving it to you Plus I'm going to have my 37 points anyway And I'm going to have like 8-9 rebounds You know what I mean So that's how it's going to look
Starting point is 01:50:07 B, I'm two in the pick and roll No no I'm rolling I'm just saying at the end of your career you know how we always talk about you know how we brought up the Kobe in this first couple years he was number two and then you know what the Andrein won't be because of
Starting point is 01:50:20 that's the beginning of it that's the but they've already had their career first okay right remember Kobe was getting stunned it okay he was getting stunned it and he's like no y'all you hold on no no no I'm I'm dangerous what are y'all talking about Scotty Pippin ain't average in 28 you know I mean and that's what it was
Starting point is 01:50:36 okay okay okay I mean because remember when they started using that who he was playing in the playoffs. Skybibibin. They look like they playing. And that's what they were doing then. So he had to branch off just like Kyrie had to branch off. Yonis is like, I did it by myself.
Starting point is 01:50:52 Right? Now I want to win three, four more. How are we going to do this? And I think him and Luke in that picking roll is dangerous. He allowed threat, steel. He do all the stuff that DeAndreid won't do. Roll all the way to the rim. Like, it's like standing in the goddamn pocket.
Starting point is 01:51:08 Like, throw it to me now. Now, damn it. I wish I had a, man, I wish I had a dunker when I play, boy. He probably wouldn't have got the ball because I didn't know how to throw lobs. But the fact that he's doing that and the defense is adjusting. Moat's shooting for me. All right. Let's keep this thing moving to our final topic of the day.
Starting point is 01:51:27 Oh, shit. Talk about the younger generation. So entering Friday, Concanipple was the betting favorite to win rookie of the year over his former college teammate and roommate Cooper. But Flagg came through with a historic weekend to flip the odds back in his favor. Let's take a look at some of the highlights if we can please. So started Friday night. Flag put up a career high, 51 points on the magic, becoming the first teenager in NBA history to drop a 50 piece in just the ninth rookie ever to accomplish the feat. Also the first since our very own Mr. B, we went 55 and three quarters against the Warriors back in 2009. He
Starting point is 01:52:01 also passed you as the youngest player in NBA history. You only played two quarters? You only played four quarters? Yeah. He played four quarters, but I think he'd be scoring the first quarter from not Oh, so you got shit out on the first quarter? No, it just, you know. I went 0 for 5 in the first quarter, dog, and I score 55. Jesus.
Starting point is 01:52:14 Getting his rhythm. So you score 55 in the game after a quarter? Second through fourth quarter. No, three quarters means you only played three quarters. Okay. Technically, yeah. Scott Scal says,
Starting point is 01:52:24 he was just out there the first. He was just out there. Just running around. Just throwing us 55. 51 against the magic. He was 19 for 30 from the field, six for nine from three in the game. Followed that up with 45 points,
Starting point is 01:52:36 nine assists, and eight rebounds. on 14 to 27 shooting against the Los Angeles Lakers. Flagg and Bronn became the first team in player over 40 years old. Both scored 20 or more points in the game, with both players doing that in the first half. The flag is the first rookie since Alan Iverson with 40 plus points in back-to-back games. So his 96 points in a two-game span is the second most by a rookie in league history behind Wilk. He has four 40-point games this season.
Starting point is 01:53:04 No rookie had had a 40-point game until Jeremiah Fears did that. with his 40 piece, I think, Tuesday night. So after the win over the Lakers, Flagg was asked what statement he made over the weekend in the rookie of the year race? I think it's definitely some sort of statement. But it just goes back to what I said. I'm confident in myself and I know what I'm capable of love.
Starting point is 01:53:25 And I'll just let the rest of the stuff figure yourself out. The main event, ladies'ammy. Yeah. So Flagg followed up his big scoring weekend with 25 points, nine rebounds, and the loss of the Clippers Tuesday. Now let's take a look at the updated rookie of the year prediction odds over on Underdog, if we can, please. Flagg, I believe 71%.
Starting point is 01:53:47 You see how it was trending previously? And then it will drop down to 33%. Mm-hmm. Those dude leading league three is made, man. This shit, like, it's a tough race. The human race. I think it should be one. I go back just.
Starting point is 01:54:07 It's a business. Go one each conference, man. Just go one each conference, man. But we'll start with you. I'll see you wearing the Dallas Cowboys hat. This is Dallas-related topic. Do Cooper Flag lock up the rookie of the year this weekend? Yeah, he did for the wrong reasons.
Starting point is 01:54:26 And I still think Con Conypill should be the rookie of the year. Look, is Cooper Flag a better player than Connoeppel will ever be? Yes. but who had the more valuable rookie year, to your point, I think you were about to make. Con Cinnipple did. Leading the league in three is made, 43% from three.
Starting point is 01:54:50 And he's not the best player on Charlotte's team, but he's the catalyst because he's doing things nobody thought he could do this quickly. He's the fourth overall pick, and I just shrugged when they picked him like, come on, seriously. But I've been watching, watching this team because I have to watch this team because since late January, they've been the second hottest team in basketball and the biggest surprise in the NBA since January. They have caught real live fire, albeit in the Eastern Conference. And cons average a 19 a game to Cooper is 21. So it's 21 to 19. But speaking of three-point shooting, Cooper flag is dead last.
Starting point is 01:55:36 in the NBA in three-point shooting. So I got to factor that in. But beyond that, I got to factor in that when he exploded against your Lakers last, what was it, Sunday, that was the first game they had won in 15 games at home. They had lost 14 straight at home. And now Dallas has lost 28 of its last 34 games, 28 of its last 34. So one team is crazy hot. and one team is just playing it out
Starting point is 01:56:08 with Najee Marshall as their second best score. And all I know is Con Canipa was the favorite until three games ago. And three games ago, Cooper Flagg was averaging 15 shots a game. In the last three, he has taken 30 shots, 27 shots, and 25 shots. So all of a sudden, with nothing to play for except garbage time points, He is just garbageed out, and he's really good.
Starting point is 01:56:38 But we knew he was really good, or at least I think I knew he was really good. He just is. He can do all that. And he exploded for all these points late and stole MVP. And I'm sure he's going to win it now because the public loves to see 51s and 45s and 30s. Wow. Oh, okay. But Concanipal has shown you.
Starting point is 01:57:04 He's a basketball player who does a lot of little big things for Charlotte. And he's not just a catch and shoot three-point shooter. He can create his own shot. And he can make mid-range jump shots. He's really good. And he helped solidify and make a team that obviously is focused around Lamello and Brandon Miller and Bridges. They're really good.
Starting point is 01:57:30 And they're going to get a whole lot better fast. and they're going to be a problem for somebody in the postseason, in large part because Connipal is playing way beyond his years as a rookie. So in impact, he deserves rookie of the year. And Cooper Flagg has been really good, but only great late when it didn't really matter. Shoulder do you agree, disagree? Okay. Stats is one thing.
Starting point is 01:58:04 and then reality is the other. One is a third, fourth option on his team, right? Fourth, which means no one's paying attention to you. No one's guarding you, right? So your shots are very high-value shots. So you should shoot 40-something percent. Can you play that video again? This is the difference between number two and number one.
Starting point is 01:58:32 Number one, the reason his shooting is going to be off because he has to, this is what he has to do. He is the lamello ball on the team. He has to create everything. He has to drive. He has to create the offense. He is being guarded. When you're going against Dallas, you're trying to guard this. Okay, but everybody beats that.
Starting point is 01:58:56 No, no, no, I can beat it now because they're not young. They're still young, but I'm this, these are the plays I have to make. No, I got it. I just, if you just set Cooper flag in the corner to shoot jumpers, he's going to be a great three-point shooter. But he has to do step back, step back coming off the pick and roll while somebody's guarding him. That's the difference between his shooting and canipples.
Starting point is 01:59:17 Well, absolutely missed a lot of open-free. Yeah, yeah, but he is the number one. He's bringing, this is what he is doing. This is his game, right, versus option four. Yeah. Right. He's going to have three or four people loading up on him, and he has to make a number moves like that.
Starting point is 01:59:34 So when you're talking about impact, his impact is a lot different because he's the star player that someone's trying to guard. When it comes to just the business of basketball, it looks, it doesn't look
Starting point is 01:59:50 like the future is hitting the right way if you give it to a fourth option player. That's true. No, I got, clearly Cooper is just better, he's better, but he hadn't had a better year. He hasn't had more value than Concanipal has had for the team. But he's, but the value is coming from who road was harder.
Starting point is 02:00:14 That is like the road is, these roads are very different. One is smooth sailing. Just, hey, just hit the open shots when you're, you know what? You don't have to worry about the double team. We got that under control. When the other one is being doubled and triple team, because he is the only the best player on the team. So the, the roads are very different.
Starting point is 02:00:32 They're playing a very different battle of games. If you're saying is is Knieu important to that team? Hell yeah. If this is what you're doing as a fourth option, hell yes. Now if Knappel had his own team, will he be great? I think so. I've seen him in college. I thought to be honest, I went to the Arizona.
Starting point is 02:00:57 I thought he was more aggressive than Cooper Flagg was. Like it took me a while to really see what Cooper actually did. And I was like, okay, he plays hard. Is he just a catch and shoot? Is he like, what does he do? Knieple always got it. He started doing his own thing. So I know he has it in him, but he didn't have to display it this year.
Starting point is 02:01:20 Okay. Right? So I'm going to always go with the guy who rode was a little harder. And by far. Okay. You know. Okay, but just three games ago, Khan was the favorite. until Cooper took 30 shots a game for three straight games.
Starting point is 02:01:34 That's what happened. Yeah, just like, you know, Wembe was the favorite. You know, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm betting on it. Yeah, I'm just, baby for the money's really, I'm just, not the, the rookie ladder in the, yeah, I'm just throwing it out here to make y'all jump at it. I know who I'm giving my trophy to. I'm sorry, I know who the trophy's going to.
Starting point is 02:01:54 You know what I mean? It's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, as a product, looks a lot better if Cooper Flagg won. It does. I agree. Someone who's not the star of the team right now. Yeah. No, for sure.
Starting point is 02:02:11 I mean, for me, man, I want to shout out, first of all, you know, Cooper Flag, breaking the record, you know, youngest ever. I've always been a fan of him since he was at Curry Camp in high school, but also just him coming into the league being able to play for a point guard like Jason Kidd, right? You've got to, you plan for a top five point guard who has the, you know. the craziest mind, insane mind of basketball IQ I've ever been around. And, you know, the fact that your first year is with him and you can have the freedom to be able to, you know, make mistakes and do whatever you want.
Starting point is 02:02:43 And, you know, I'm just happy for him. I mean, I got my new balances on, you know, these are new balances. Did you rock your new balances today for Cooper Flay? I mean, yeah, I knew we were going to talk about the Cooper Flag and I wanted to give him a shout out for breaking the record. So no animosity for him bumping you out as the youngest player to drop him? Not not at all. You're second youngest.
Starting point is 02:03:02 Yeah, yeah, I'm the second. But he also, but also who he's around, though, too. Like, Jason Kidd. Like, Jason Kidd knows everything that's going around. Like, he knows who he has. Like, he put him at the one position. At first it was, you know, it was hard for him. It was a little adversity, but it's going to help him down the line.
Starting point is 02:03:18 I mean, you saw what happened with Yannis. Like, with him. Now he's taking the ball. And all he's going to do is help this kid. This kid is going to be on the Olympic team in 2028, I feel. In Los Angeles. Yeah, yeah, in Los Angeles. I just feel like just off this 50-point game
Starting point is 02:03:32 and what he's going to be able to keep doing, he's definitely going to be on the team. And sky's just the limit for him. Wait, wait. What was the record? Brandon James, the youngest player in any better should have dropped 50 points in the game. But he didn't draw 50. He dropped 50 plus points.
Starting point is 02:03:47 See, you water down. No, no, you're good. Don't water down the five points, man. He got to do that. It watered down. It was the youngest to have 55 points. So Mr. B. You are still the youngest
Starting point is 02:04:00 to drop 50 plus points. He's the youngest to drop 50. Different award. Okay. I like you. I like it. Could he created an award? Look.
Starting point is 02:04:10 Hey, chat, please stop saying this is like Mello. Stop. Mello was the star of his team. He was the number one option of his team. All right. Mello had them in the playoffs. Le Mello and the others had them in the playoffs. how you say they are playing very well.
Starting point is 02:04:31 They're playing. Huh? Nice play right now. I'm not fin of, no, no, no, no. You're out as fish grease and they're still in the goddamn playing game, man. But like I don't want you to compare these. You know what I mean? I don't like people compare it.
Starting point is 02:04:45 Like Mello was the main guy on the team being doubled in triple team. Carmelo Anthony was the main guy. This is not the main guy. He is the fourth option on the team. He's doing his part. Yes. To help them win. games. He's not the reason that they're winning games.
Starting point is 02:05:03 He is open as much as he is, he is open as much as he is, because he is the four, he's taking the fourth most shots on the team. He's Rui for the Lakers. So, he's Rui. Hit your shots. You have other guys. Appreciate you. But they have, not the reason we're going to win. Still in the plan, though, King. You're still in the plan.
Starting point is 02:05:22 You're still in the plan. As you pointed out. Yeah. I told you what spot to get. You want me to give them credit. I get the guarantee, six. Still got a play in. Like, got a chance to get in now. I want them to get eight. I want them to get eight. I do.
Starting point is 02:05:36 I want them to finish eight so they can play Detroit in the first round. I want to see that shit. There's a potential thing. I want to see them playing the first round. I'm saying, but right now. That might be the only excited first. I want them to play. Because I don't have a lot of first round.
Starting point is 02:05:51 I don't like, I don't want that style. I do. But they have the potential to jump up as high. I don't want that. Like, cool. Six, seven. Let them. Listen,
Starting point is 02:06:00 Charlie don't want to see Boston. I hope they get it is. Jaylon Brown. Charlie better. Charlotte better. Watch out. They do not want to see Boston. I hope they get as high as well as they've been playing.
Starting point is 02:06:10 Yeah. Well, as well as the Charlotte Hunter has been playing. I want them to get as high as they possibly can. Right. If that's getting the five, six, five, whatever it is, get there. But as of right now, as I've been stating, it's still in the playing game. And I would love for them to get to eight, right? If they get to eight and they get to eight and they get to eight and they play
Starting point is 02:06:27 seven. No, you do not won Boston. I just seen Boston play live in Milwaukee. No. No. Okay. They're going to lose first round, right? Either way, go.
Starting point is 02:06:38 Which one is a more exciting look? Detroit. Them versus Boston? That's going to be, damn it, 200 points. No, Detroit. No, no, no. That might be 185 to 140. You just want to see this year.
Starting point is 02:06:51 I want to see that. I want to see it. No, no, no. Squabble up. That's going to be a blowout. These two, like these two plays. Like, they shoot 53s and this team plays fast. This is what the NBA, when you shoot 53s,
Starting point is 02:07:05 this score is what we're supposed to see. Boston play defense. Right? I've seen them live. Like, when it's Boston, like, you're going to go up and down. You're going to chuck threes. They're going to play style off the backboard. Cool.
Starting point is 02:07:14 That grind it out is going to take away from the show stopping we're trying to see. Right? It's going to take away from the show. I want to see. I want to see a team lose. Lou's throwing a ball off the backboard, shooting from half corn, pointing doing all that. I want them get the eight.
Starting point is 02:07:27 You know, shoot an arrow, shoot a couple of people in the stands. And on that note. But, you know, but, you know, a nice little fight, you know what I mean? Fisticoke. As long as Kade comes back. If Kade comes back. Kade coming back tonight, Gil. Night.
Starting point is 02:07:41 From the collapse long. Sweet. All right, well, there we go. Does he get the 65? I believe if he plays the next two games, we beat 64, but there may be some wiggle room or some negotiations that go on behind the scenes. Let's see. The light skinned the community will unite.
Starting point is 02:07:54 We will unite. Is it to give leeway or? or hard, 65. Some exemption. 65. If it's 64, dog, you can't do that, dog. You can't do that, too. You can't do that.
Starting point is 02:08:07 No, no, no, the bad part of it, the bad part is, if it's 64 and the person that gets picked over him, it's 65. Right, right, it's 65 whose stats is just like, they just try to do anything. Like, imagine 33, 33, 9, and 8. Right? And you got 64. And then the person they put in is 21, four, and three.
Starting point is 02:08:32 You'd be like, yo. The fuck out of you. We were vote. So, Pips three games left, K, K very well made, hit the 64 game threshold. I think it would only still be 63 because he only played like five minutes when the game he collapsed along. But that's neither here nor there. I let the league in the squares figure out. That's an injury.
Starting point is 02:08:47 Yeah, that's how I go. I don't make the rules. But appreciate everybody in the chat. As always, appreciate everybody on this couch. Kid, thank you for pulling up yet. You got you good today? You had a good time today? You got a good day here?
Starting point is 02:08:57 You're good? You're good? You're good? All right. Okay. All right. You're just making sure. Hey, I like the haircut.
Starting point is 02:09:06 Like the, like, show the girl. J.C. was a little fan that you put the hat on this. No, no, no. You got showing a little duck tail. Oh, you brought it back? Ducktail. Woohoo! Kenyon said I should have went all the way.
Starting point is 02:09:17 If I wanted to really show the south some levels, should go all the way. 80s, couty cat head. 80s, This has been another episode of Gil's Arena, presented by Underdog. Whoa, Whoa! We will see y'all tomorrow.

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