Gil's Arena - Danny Green Breaks Down The NBA Playoffs With Gil's Arena

Episode Date: May 12, 2025

Gil's Arena Breaks Down A SHOCKING NBA Playoff Weekend as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew return to Gil's Arena to break down everything that went down during a wild weekend of NBA Playoff Hoops. They start things off by reacting to the Boston Celtics dominant win over the New York Knicks in Game 3 where Jayson Tatum and the reigning champs finally hit shots and closed out the blowout to get back in the series. The Gil's Arena Crew gives their takeaways from the Celtics' win and discuss how this series is showing off the power dynamic between superstars Jayson Tatum & Jaylen Brown. They also debate if the Knicks should be worried about Jalen Brunson & Karl Anthony-Towns' struggles in the series and discuss which team is under more pressure heading into Game 4. Next, they break down Game 3 of the series between the Minnesota Timberwolves & Golden State Warriors where the Dubs fell in back to back games without Steph Curry to show how vulnerable they are without their legendary point guard on the court. They discuss what Jimmy Butler & Draymond Green can do to pick this team up throughout the rest of the series and highlight how Anthony Edwards is changing his game to dominate in the post season. Finally they welcome 3x Champion Danny Green into the Arena to break down the Denver Nuggets vs Oklahoma City Thunder series where Nikola Jokic & Shai Gilgeous Alexander continue to trade blows as the best players in the NBA, sparking a debate over which NBA MVP Candidate will have an F YOU game to carry their team across the finish line. Please give us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas Josiah Johnson, Rashad McCants, Brandon Jennings & Danny Green Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Credits and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Listen To Rashad's Song - https://youtu.be/U_Pm3pmcQ-s Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with @shop.mando and get $5 off your Starter Pack (that’s over 40% off) with promo code ARENA at https://shopmando.com! #mandopod Use our code for 10% off your next SeatGeek order https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/ARENA10 Sponsored by SeatGeek. Restrictions apply. Max $20 discount Join the Playback chat to interact with Gil and Josiah https://www.playback.tv/gilbertarenas SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog 0:00:00 – 2 Min Countdown 0:02:04 – Show Start 0:07:38 – Michael Jordan Is Back In The Media 0:22:02 – The Celtics Finally Closed Out The Knicks 0:46:10 – Danny Green Enters Gil's Arena 0:51:18 – The Larry O'Brien Enters The Arena 0:56:36 – Jayson Tatum Is The Man For The Celtics 1:16:24 – Rashad Drops His Music Video 1:17:08 – KAT Has To Show Up For The Knicks 1:29:55 – The Warriors Lose 2 Straight Without Steph Curry 1:33:53 – Julius Randle Deserves More Credit 1:50:12 – Is The Perception Of Draymond Green Fair? 2:04:39 – Danny Green On Kawhi's Legendary Game Winner 2:12:02 – Danny Green On The Lakers Bubble Championship 2:19:26 – Tim Duncan Is The Greatest #1 Pick Ever 2:23:20 – Danny Green On Pop's Legendary Career 2:27:12 – Debating Where Giannis & KD Will Land Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Welcome back to Gills Arena presented by Underdog. Whoa, whoa. How everybody feeling today? Good. Blessed. Nice little weekend. Good. Mother's Day.

Good. Good Mother's Day. Good Mother's Day. Good. Good Mother's Day. Yeah, good Mother's Day, Sunday. Grinding, playoff basketball. Shout out to you representing. Oh, okay. The Pats? Yeah. Go, dude.

Still holding it down? Still believe? Go, dude. You're a go, dude. You're a go, dude. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Just making sure. Just making sure. Doing what you can't do. I mean, there's a few. There's a lot of happy people. Doing what you can do. I mean, there's a few. There's a lot of happy. Besides about what y'all can't do. 2026.

Only thing you can do is change teams man. Like your king. There's only one person in here that's not really happy this morning. There's a few, but three ones still believe. Believe Glenn. A lot of things. George. Marcus.

A little somber in the group chat this weekend. We got an old video. But this is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. As always, we've got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us. And on this side of the couch, we've got the man known as Cemetery Larry, NCAA champion. Current Knicks fan Rashad McCann back here in the arena. And next to him, representing Tough Crowd, Tough Crowd University, we got Mr. B. Brandon Jennings.

Y'all been doing your thing, pickleballing, bowling, a little bit of everything. Screen out right now, you know. It's Monday. Are we going to get it back to right? Yeah, I know. I don't know what's going on with the show. I don't want to talk, on with the show. I can't see myself.

I don't want to talk, man. It's just weird. Just the controller. I'm like, that's true. I'm looking at myself. I'm comfortable talking right now. Just on. That's it.

That's all you got to do. It is Monday here. It's broken. Just hit the on button. We're coming back. We're coming back. I feel better. It's still better just being here. We're coming back. I feel better. It's still better just being here.

We're coming back. We need to see ourselves now, though. But for all the fans out there, we've still got two viewing options for you, our traditional version, mobile vertical version. Pick whichever one you want to watch. Just make sure you support the show. Here's what's cracking in the arena today. The Celtics found their stroke in Game 3 and cruised to an easy win over the Knicks in the Garden.

Which team has the most pressure on them heading into game four? The dubs battled without Steph but took their second straight L to the wolves What do the Warriors need to do to get a win without their Batman shot off cominga trying to get his bag back? Shot out Draymond to say that he tired of that angry black man perception that the media putting on him. He's a good black man. Okay. He looked like a happy black man to me, but that's my opinion. And SGA came through in the clutch to help the Thunder get a game four win to even the series with the Nuggets.

Is Jokic due for another dominant performance? And will it be enough for Denver in this series? But before we get into all that, as always, the show is brought to you by Underdog. Go ahead and download the app, use promo code GILL, get up to $1,000 of bonus cash, plus a special pick. And as for tonight,

GILL has some picks up in his partner pack on the Underdog app. Let us take a look if we can. You got Jason Tatum, higher, 39.5 points, rebounds, and assists. Game four tonight in the Garden. Ooh, looking lovely. Jalen Brunson, higher, 5.5 assists.

I struggled to distribute the rock as of late with that Celtics defense, but he's going to get it back going. Derek White, higher, 13.5 points. And Mikael Bridges, higher, 13.5 points. Bridges had, I believe, 12 in the last game, game through loss, but trying to get his buckets back right. How everybody feeling about Gil's picks on the underdog app? Raquel, Bridges had 12 last game?

Three times your money, man. You got to put in something. You do the safe pick. Got to put in something to win something on that right there, boy. It's a good pick, though. Conservative. I just, I just, I can't, I can't. I got to be 10 times the money of Bella.

Bridges did have 14 in the fourth quarter. You're not going to get them picks, though. Our resident Knicks fan. I wouldn't even. I'd like to remind you all. All them good. All them going to hit, though. Yeah, all them going to hit, for sure. That's why I'm.

Well, I was 91%. Derek White going to hit. Yeah, all of them are going to hit for sure. That's why I'm... I was 91%. Derek, we're going to hit five threes in this game? You said you need to be 10. Yeah, I got to get some money. I'm just not sparing. I'm not scraping, man. I need the bed. Man, I need to hit you on the head. They had to knock me off the shit for like

two weeks. I hit him over the head. I'm trying to hit him over the head a hundred times my money. A hundred times. We asked the chat if they are riding or fading with Gil's picks tonight. 54% of the chat is riding with your picks, Gil. How much? 54%.

Better. Majority. If you like the picks and want to ride with them, head over to the Underdog app. If you don't have Underdog, go ahead and download it. Use promo code Gil. Get up to $1,000 in bonus cash plus a special pick-em. So if you like the picks and want to ride with them, head over to the Underdog app. If you don't have Underdog, go ahead and download it. Use promo code GILD to get up to $1,000 in bonus cash, plus a special pick-em. And if you can't watch this show live with us on YouTube, we have audio versions available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts. So we've got a lot of playoff basketball to talk about.

Also have a couple special guests pulling up to the arena later today, so make sure you look out for that. But let's start with NBC. NBC will be back to covering the NBA next season after securing a slate of games as a part of the league's new TV rights deal. And Monday, they made a huge announcement. Let's take a look at the tweet. It said, a legendary addition to our team,

we're thrilled to welcome Michael Jordan as a special contributor to the NBA on NBC and Peacock. Ladies and gentlemen, MJ is back. There you go, Gil. He gets some smoke. Shout out to Round Ball Rock. So aside from the Last Dance documentary on the Bulls that was released in 2020, MJ has largely

avoided doing media since his retirement from the Wizards in 2003. So MJ joins an NBC roster that includes Melo, Jamal Crawford, and Reggie Miller as the NBA on NBC makes its return for the first time since 2002. Crazy to think that that was 23 years ago last time we got to hear that theme song. See some play? Since 2002. Legendary basketball game. Michael Jordan retired. They retired. Michael Jordan.ary basketball game. Michael Jordan retired. They retired.

Michael Jordan. They come back. Michael Jordan come back. We back. We back. So I wish our reaction to Michael Jordan becoming a member of the sports media. Don't know if I ever thought I would see it happen, but this day is here. Just got to wait and see. I mean, is he going to be around the table?

No. He's special. You might see him. Just hanging there, popping and smoking a cigar. MJ style. Doing what he's doing. So what you think about MJ becoming a member of the sports media, joining the ranks of this legendary crew on Gills Arena presented by underdog will know dime in my pocket I would have no breath with me hey yeah man man jr. I have no problem now yeah Mike Mike, congrats. Great. You talked about just TV landscapes.

There's been a lot of talk as of late about viewership decline, all the things going on. It seems like NBC is trying to make a big splash. They're also going to do, I think, the return of the starting lineups before the game. Starting lineups. Player intros, giving players their love. They're going to be there and shoot around, right,

talking to them before shoot around. Obviously, MJ, right? If you think about NBC, every time they had NBC, it was MJ. When he retired the first time, they left. Then they came back when he came back. And then when he retired with the Wizards, they retired. Now they're back together. And they're going to have all the views

basically since early 2000. Bring it back to O'Hare. So this is to bring more views? No. He don't play, but they're going to... If MJ says something, you're going to watch. No, they report their views different than everybody else. They report totals.

Like, so if you go back and really look, they had household views and then they had viewers. Two different views. So they're going to show you their viewership, not that household stuff. The difference is the desperation. You feel like it's a desperate move on NBC? Well, what's in the past that ain't dead? Okay, so we're going in the past. We're going to bring some shit back.

Bring it back to the past. Because everybody feel like that's going to make us feel whole again. Like, we complain about the old school guys and what they complain. Then we bring them back to the fold to give more of what we say we don't like about the old school, the OGs, the haters. Why are we not moving forward? What's the forward plan? What's the forward? Because we are the forward plan.

Yeah. We've created a forwardness to this. Gills Arena presented by Underdog Woof Woof. No, no, they didn't see me coming. No, they didn't see you coming. You was with him. So y'all was already, you know what I'm saying? So we're in a space now where, you know, they didn't expect us to be here.

Them coming back, they're bringing things back because they feel like, what kind of artist is it going to draw? Michael Jordan coming back? Oh, shit. I'm just curious to see how much they will actually utilize a special contributor. Obviously a very broad term. It's just a way to put his name back up there so he can keep his GOAT status. Yeah.

But as it goes to the conversation you talk about with LeBron and how Rich and them is trying to figure out how to get rid of the old guys so the new guys can have new legacies, right? Mm-hmm. But NBC is not going to do that. The old heads say we ain't going nowhere said we ain't going nowhere you ain't going nowhere right so it's like even for the gatekeeping for our generation to try to step up and get those different seats they gonna sit in them seats as long as they can keep them yeah right so i feel

like the whole nbc thing the whole nba jam feel that was cool when i was growing up they got mellow and jamal over Yeah, they keep it new and cool. So you think TNT, they should be trying to get younger? Yeah. It's the new time. I mean, like a Draymond Green would

go right in. You got to see how our personalities and perspectives already clash with the new guys. You already got Donovan Mitchell and Jason Tatum up in arms, but that's friendly competition. So the old school guys look like they hating. TNT obviously lost their NBA package,

but inside the NBA, we'll continue getting licensed out to ESPN. There'll be a lot of crossover, Steve and that crew. Yeah, they're going to slave the hell out of them boys. That's what Charles was telling me. They're going to slave all that shit you've been saying about them

back in the day. They're going to slave your ass. LaQuinn, 24 hours, shoe locked down. Damn. You better come in here at 6 a.m. and leave midnight, motherfucker Charles. That's saying I'm saying.

That's what I'm saying. There's going to be some new stuff, but at the end of the day, man, it's... Entertainment is entertainment. Yeah. And, you know, you guys are on TV handicapped by hours.

And that's what they don't realize. You guys are hourly. You come on at a certain time and then sports continue and a content creator can just outwork you in the time, space, that you're at home.

And shall you talk about us coming, kind of new media coming to the space? People weren't really rocking with us when we first launched Deals Arena presented by Underdog Woo Woo.

It's unconventional, right? Very authentic, right? We don't have a stronghold saying, say this, say that. Even the last episode, great entertainment, but people don't know the behind the scenes and how it never gets too wild, right?

Honestly, it's been so long, I forgot all about it. Right, right, right. But you just think about how... Average day in the arena, honestly. People can confuse entertainment with personal sometimes but you know the way we've built it I think that it's a model it's a model like that old model is the old models like you're trying to keep pushing the

whole first like yeah whole no generate yeah that panel tie the suit tie, all that. Think about the old days. We'll come here with the humans. That's what he created. That's what I'm saying. He created the environment where we can come in here and just talk barbershop shit, right? Talk what we all feel is our own opinions being the strongest. I'll beat me on my opinion. Up there, they got to read the script, bro. It's a teleprompter shit.

I done been on them. No prompter in the arena. That's why I constantly look down at the computer, ladies and gentlemen gotta read the script, bro. It's a teleprompter shit. I done been on them. No prompter in the arena. That's why I constantly look down at the computer, ladies and gentlemen. We wanna keep it thuggish over here. But we asked the chat, are you excited to see Michael Jordan in the media?

69% of the chat said they are excited. But Gil, like I said, MJ special contributor, we don't really know exactly what they means at this point. What do you think MJ's voice will be like in the media space? Is he going to be educational, trying to uplift the game, or is he going to be salty and a hater like some of the stuff we saw in the last day? He's going to be educational.

MJ didn't hate when he played. He was the definition of what a superstar is supposed to sound like, so I don't see him getting rid of that to try to, you know, save faith. All he has to do is just be himself and who he was and just talk the game as it is. And, you know, everybody else is going to run in there just for him. I need to see him with the long cigar just taking things personally.

No. I mean, I think for me, when Mike won his last championship, I was eight years old, so to be able to hear how Mike is going to talk about the new generation and just the game, just in general for me, I'm excited. Yeah, I'm curious to hear his perspective on everything that's going on.

You know, like, oh shit, that's the GOAT? We're about to see a lot of media twerk. Oh, they're going to be twerking. Oh, MJ's back. Oh my god, you're about to see a lot of media twerk. Oh, they're going to be twerking. Oh, MJ's bad. Oh, my God. You're about to see twerk. If you've never seen a man twerk, you're about to see them twerk like crazy.

Daisy Duke style. Straight Isaiah Thomas shorts. Because remember, MJ is not a hater. MJ is not a hater. Right. So think about all MJ's minions that just, that just stands for MJ.

He's going to talk regular ass basketball. He's going to talk about how great Ant-Man and Shay and all these guys are

and it's going to go against the minions and they're going to have to twerk backwards to just... Yeah, I agree with MJ. With MJ sitting like, wait a... Hold on, dawg. You've been

sitting this nigga's ass for two years now, now all of a sudden... We haven't seen him in two years. He's great. He's literally the back hand. He's been out here like, yeah, you've been sitting all that, so the Brian's better than me, huh? Jason Tatum, he... I think that's. So LeBron's better than me, huh? Jason Tatum.

I think that's his whole appearance right now is to be like, so y'all really? I think he's going to uplift the Jordan guys. Really? For sure. No, no. Oh, yeah, I think so too. Yeah, Jason Tatum, Luka. All the Jordan brand guys.

But you got to remember the media who team Jordan that kills everybody for Jordan, he's going to be building them up and they're going to look stupid. Who are those two guys on that panel? There's a hundred. All of them. No, on that panel for NBC. The studio show, I think Melo, Jamal Crawford, I think Reggie Miller will call some games. MJ, special contributor

again. We don't really know what that means. I'm hoping that we get to see the guys. We get to see the MJ, LeBron sit down. I'm the Jordan guys. I'm the Jordan guys. Soon as I see the power, I'm like, okay. MJ to go. Melo.

Reggie. Yes. He's comfortable. But that's what I'm saying. I'm not worried about them because they're new in the media, so they don't really have a – they haven't pushed a narrative for 20-something years. It's the guys that have to to they have to go against now everything

MJ is going to just talk the game like he's not going to have a narrative he don't need a narrative right so you know when he says Jason Tatum is the new face or he says Ant-Man and when he starts speaking all this good talk and it goes against all those other guys they're going to have to twerk

to make MJ happy they're going to have to twerk to make MJ happy. They're going to have to twerk. Oh, my God. I have a question. If MJ started a podcast, whose podcast would be better? Mind the game? Or MJ? Or MJ.

It depends if MJ does it with Ahmaud Rashad or not. Oh, shit. Why would you even say that? You just fucked up the whole shit. I give away free shit every once in a while MJ and Amal talking the game. Getting lit. Getting lit. With just Steve Nash? Nah, we're not rocking. But a serious question you think down the road we'll see an MJ LeBron interview at some point sit down cause that'll break

the internet year 23 for LeBron I think so yeah it is yeah yeah that's gonna happen you think Charles and Mike will sit down

no okay no they ain't no they enemies MJ and LeBron they're not enemies oh no who

who Charles just said some dumb shit. Mike just don't like dumb shit. Cut him off. I know. He been popping asses, man. Who else won't answer the call? I'm not talking to this nigga, man.

But, I mean, obviously, we'd love to see MJ come in, come help grow the game. Obviously, gonna have some strong opinions. I just hope he does what MJ does, right? Just when he speaks positivity into basketball. And he gets to show media everything y'all have done to the game that's been wrong. Because he's not going to be in the GOAT debate. He's going to say there's no GOAT.

We're all GOATs in our generation, right? He's going to be in the goat debate. He's going to say there's no goat. We're all goats in our generation, right? He's going to be in that type of time. And it's going to make all the MJ fans look stupid. Because while you guys are sitting here killing legacies, he's not about that. He's about building legacies, everybody's legacy. And that's going to be the contradiction of what's been going on for the last 20 years. All right. Well, excited to see what goes down.

Yeah. NBL, NBC is back. Can't wait to see. Got our round ball rock. Iman Rashad is coming back. Hmm? That's where I got my name from. Huh?

That's where I got my name from. You just dropped the Ahmad? The silver shot. I guess that's all my mama heard. He scored a touchdown. That's real though? He was a receiver, wasn't he? Receiver niggas, he scored.

Yeah, he played in the NFL. So shout out to NBC. Ahmad Rashad did? Mm-hmm. Back in the day. He used to be all right. That's why he come in popping his shit. That's why he friends with Michael Jordan. I didn't Mm-hmm. Back in the day. Used to be all right. That's why he come in popping his shit. That's why he friends with Michael Jordan.

I didn't even know that. They get turnt up. I will share some stories about the last dance with y'all after the show, how turnt up they were getting. But let's get into some playoff basketball. So got to talk about Eastern Conference first. Celtics set an NBA playoff record after their first two home losses to the Knicks, missing 75 threes while shooting an underwhelming 25 percent from deep. So despite

their shooting struggles, they were still in position to win both of those games, losing by a combined total of just four points. Boston pulled up to Madison Square Garden in desperate need of a win to keep their season alive and pick the perfect time to throw a three party in the Big Apple. Let's take a look at the highlights. Celtics came out on fire in the first quarter, knocking down their first four threes, going six of seven from deep in the period to jump out to a 36-20 lead. Meanwhile, the Knicks were bricked up like roast barks, starting the game 2-4-11 from the field. Jalen Brown scored 17 of his 19 points in the first two quarters, finishing with six rebounds and five assists as well. Brown was tied with Derek White with a team high plus 29.

Celtics were 12 of 19 from deep in the first half, went into the break with a 25-point lead. It was the largest halftime playoff deficit for the Knicks in their franchise history. Jalen Brunson led New York with 27 points and seven assists, going 9 for 21 from the field. Cat added 21 and 15 boards and was 5 of 18 from the field. He did go 10 for 11 from the field. Cat added 21 and 15 boards and was 5 of 18 from the field. He did go 10 for 11 from the line while battling through an injury on his non-shooting hand. Mikael Bridges added 12 points on 6 of 10 shooting.

Josh Hart had 10 and 6 boards. And O.G. Ananobi was held to just 2 points in 31 minutes of action. It was O.G.'s second straight single-digit game after putting up 5 points in the Knicks' game 2 win. So the Knicks overcame 20-point deficits in each of the first two games of the series, but that streak would end in this game. Celtics led by as much as 31 points in the second half. The Knicks had no answer.

Jason Tatum finished with 22 points, along with nine rebounds and seven assists. He was 8 for 20 from the field, 5 for 9 from three. Sixth man of the year, Peyton Pritchard, led the team in scoring with 23 points off the bench, hitting five of his 10 three-point attempts. Derek White added 17 and five boards, and Al Horford had 15 and nine rebounds going three or four from deep. Horford put an exclamation point on the Celtics' win, hitting the team's 23-pointer of the game with a little over two minutes remaining. Boston shot 50% from three in the win, never trailed in the game, improving to 40-3 this season when they hit 20 or more threes in the game, while the Knicks shot 40% from the field in the game,

but just 20% from three, going 5-25 from beyond the arc. So New York has now lost three straight playoff games in the Garden for the first time in franchise history. After the game, Jalen Brunson and Jalen Brown had this to say. I came with the mindset of being satisfied, but I think it was just subconsciously

satisfied being up 2-0, but it's not the way we need to approach the game. Yeah, you got to beat us four times. I mean, that's what it comes down to. Not twice, not once, not three. You've got to win four games.

So it's a lot of basketball to be played. So, Sean, we'll start with you. I see you coming through the arena. The Pat Ewings, full Knick gear, still supporting your squad. 2-1 lead in this series. Celtics found. Three-point stroke in game three. The biggest takeaway from the Celtics game three went over the Knicks in the garden

Too many of these Nick former knickers and all Lot of knickers in the building many knickers Too many knickers at the fucking garden. There's too much energy in there. They letting everybody come through. Too much energy going on with all them knickers. And they in there fucking knickering. Nickering and knickering and snickering and shit. They can't focus.

Your cat is not. And he don't know what to do in there. There's too much shit going on. They got blissed early. I don't like it, but I'm a rep because I got to. God damn it. And we're going to handle business, you know? Nick or please? Yeah.

Y'all in trouble. Huh? Nick's in trouble. Ooh. Hold on. Did you call me from Cancun? You called him from Cancun? Because I think, I feel like Boston, they shot them first two games. That was those bad games that they was going to have shooting-wise. I just think, I feel like Boston, they shot them first two games. Like, that was those bad, you know, games that they was going to have shooting-wise.

I just think, man, the way they shot that thing up in the garden door, I just think, like, they're going to do it again. I mean, they're going to keep doing it. So, it's like, and they've been up 20 every time. Well, we say, though, they're going to have the good shooting nights. Right, and I think they had their first, them first two games, I think those were their bad ones. So, even despite the bad shooting nights, though, game one and two, Celtics still had 20-point leads.

Knicks were able to come back. But even them after those games saying, this is not the way we want to be playing. Like, yeah, we're happy we came back and won those two games, but we prefer to not be down 20. Right. It looked the same. It looked the same.

They just kept it going in the second half. When you're hitting shots like that, just think about the Indiana game. When you're hitting shots and there ain't nothing you can really do, because that's what they do. They hit shots if you let them. But they're going to be hitting. Bro, they've been up 20 every game.

They're going to go up 20 again the next game. They're going to be up 20 again. The Knicks fall asleep because Jalen Brunson be dribbling our ass all the way to Dreamland. Well, OG didn't have a good game either, though. They didn't. We can't have the dribble, dribble, dribble shit all the time, bro.

You got to get to his spot when we need to buck it. Everybody else got lethargic. They're just sitting around waiting. You can't play Boston like that. You got to play fast. You got to stay in. You got to be solid. You got to keep your energy consistent.

You ain't have no dip offs. You got to really play perfect basketball to beat them. And they got to play bad basketball. So the first two games. Shot they played. Shot they selves out. So now they got to get the full strength of Boston now with shooting good, Jalen Brown getting to the lane, you know what I'm saying, Tatum being able to do what he doing and all

that type of shit. Six man playing like a six man. Like I say man, Pritchard dangerous man. Then you got Derek White in the head. I don't know what he'd be thinking about. Should I shoot it or not? That motherfucker say, shoot it every time. They ain't going to blame me. Master of mine. What are your biggest takeaways from the Celtics' game three win in the Garden? Down 2-0.

Obviously, not to say it was a must win, but no team has ever come back from down 3-0. I mean, it was a must win for them. I mean, they had a good shooting night. Half the shots they made were threes. The fact that you got the two most athletic dudes on the court on the same team and the fact that you guys

spend the majority of your time settling, you guys, you're helping the New York Knicks. That's all this series is. If you guys played basketball and not analytics it'd be

3-0 but because you're playing analytic basketball and not basketball basketball you got two guys who are 6'9 6'10 with 30 38 to 44 inch verticals going against a center who probably got a 5 inch vertical

you playing against Bigfoot. Yeah. What the fuck? Eddie Murphy. Eddie Murphy is the lead. I'm going to slice your bob out, bitch, man. The bitch is Bigfoot.

What is Carl Anthony Towns going to do with you, Jeff? Eddie Murphy. Size 20 shoes. Size 20 shoes. It looks lumpy out there, but it looks like he's sitting there floating on a layer. You see him doing this. He's behind a guy like I don't want to touch him.

What happens when you two are jumping? So you guys are actually bailing the New York Knicks out by taking threes and jumpers. So the fact that, yeah, you had a good shooting night, but half your shots are threes. You barely get to the free throw line. I mean, that means nobody really on their team is in foul

trouble. They don't have to worry about, really, they don't really have to worry about fouling. You don't put that type of pressure on them. You guys are going to always be in some type of foul trouble because Brunson puts fouls on you and for somehow Robinson, you guys are spending

fouls on him. Right? But they're 43 and what? Three? 43 in games they hit 20 or more. That's regular season. I mean, they shoot six. I said that too. I said that too. Who scouts in regular season? Come on, we've played in the NBA.

When we go from city to city, it's just a little bit of, hey, they shoot a lot of threes, just pick a hand up. It's PowerPoints. There's no real detail. We don't know if a motherfucker go left or right. What he's saying, when we have to take shit away from you, we really like, yo, we got to beat them four times.

Bro, we can't let them keep doing this. But are they taking anything away from you? Or are they just missing shots, though? Me, I'm going to play the percentages. Yes. And the percentages is, I want you to shoot threes then. I want to six. If we make 20, we 40 and three.

But that's If you make That's your average I know we shooting 60 of them So think about What he's saying I get what you're saying I'm living with 39%

If you shoot 60 And make 20 You lost But your field goal Percentage is If you play well 60% 55%

For the game As a team I mean they play defense They D up But if you shot more Twos that he's talking about, like, the two most athletic guys on the team

are shooting half of their shots or threes. Right. So the percentages, if you play, if they don't have a good shooting night, which could be

any fucking night. No, right. We've seen it. Right? And we've seen them play. They had off nights. I mean, Jason Tatum has more off nights

than he has on because he gets his shit back from the free throw line. He know how to get to the bucket. But when it looks bad, it looks bad. So for them right now, yesterday, yeah, they made shots. But percentages, if we're going to play the percentages for this series, they got maybe one and a half more games of shooting well before they fall two more. But didn't they win it like this last year?

Not at this rate. I think they up their rate I think they're looking to shoot threes way more than they have before so Celtics shot I believe 37 percent from three during the regular season in this series. We said first two games They were 25 for 100 25 percent from the field this game 20 and 40 in game three So shot 50 percent from but which game represents the real threes right and they had 115 points okc on wednesday made 16 threes they had 149 points that's crazy bro so the position is not because they're making layups they're getting twos they getting in ones they're getting free throws right and you you're talking about a guy he

he's semi-athletic but he's crafty and he's not gonna settle see that's the difference between him Jokic Giannis it's like playing one-on-one if I burn you three times and you back up I'm backing it because I want you to shoot it yeah yeah I'm tired of you just driving by me a smart player drives anyway anyway I'm backing up because I want you to shoot it. Yeah. Yeah, I'm tired of you just driving by me. A smart player drives anyway. Anyway. I'm going to follow you. I'm going to follow you right in there. You keep backing up, God damn it.

Scary ass nigga. I'm not going to just shoot this shot to prove your point. Exactly. I'm not going to bail you out. And that's what they do. They spend more time bailing teams out when they don't have to. Yep. Facts.

Like if they said, yo, hey, listen. Jalen. If they said, Jalen Brown, Tatum, don't shoot no threes tonight. Y'all will probably win by 40. Because there's no one really on the team that's going to block your jump shot. You start driving and get in that lane and start probing and then shoot

your jumper. Yeah, you got McHale, but listen, he's going to jump every single time. You sit there, McHale, but listen, he's going to jump every single time. You sit there, do a step back pump. He's going to jump. Walk in. Boom. One of y'all drive. So we should be questioning Joe then, the coach.

Yeah. He thinks it's okay because he's playing the percentages. That's what me and Gil are talking about. Is he really a good coach at this point? I said that. He's taking the percentages. That's what me and Gil are talking about. Because, like, is he really a good coach at this point? I said that. He's taking over for somebody. Or did he just, like, you know, or did he just come in with a team that was talented? Guys that just keep seeing threes. Because he dope.

Last, who was it? Adopa? He made Adopa. Right? Is he a better coach than him? We don't know. I'm going to have to say no. Because one won a championship.

The other one didn't. Because he took over his team. I took over. I know. You took over. But did you see what I just did in Houston? I'm going to have to say no because one won the championship, the other one didn't. Because he took over his team. I took over. I know, you took over, but did you see what I just did in Houston? Yeah, lost first round. Okay, so let's take Joe off and let's put him with, let's put Joe with Brooklyn. We can't. The Spurs.

We can't play fantasy. But I'm saying, Houston, they were a young team. He got them in the all season. He did a great job with them. And I did a great job with this team when we won a championship with it. So you can't take away and say he's better. But if we're talking about these percentages. But we're asking the question.

Yeah, he's just asking the question. These percentages are, like you said, if we just get more twos, then why do y'all keep shooting threes? So as a coach, it's like, is he really a good coach? Or is he just stuck in his ways? Mazzulla, I mean, I'll do it Was you three students? Doing there was checking them shits up there. There's nothing but that's why that's why he's asking that if nothing's changed

He's just telling them to do what they was doing before Yeah, but 60 at once a 63 is in game 140 game 240 game three But now game three you go 20 or 40, which is what they expected. When we hit, we hit, we win big. When we don't, we struggle. So they just gambled. They said, Gil, they took 36 free throws. They took 36 threes, 16 for 36.

Doesn't matter. They only made 16. They scored 149 points. 149. That's a lot9 points. 149. That's a lot of points. 149. That means they made a lot of fucking twos at a high level. Celtics 15

for 17 from the free throw line in this game. You don't get to the free throw line that much. What did they shoot from the field as a team? Both teams. So from the field Celtics 48% from the field, 50% from three. Knicks were 40% from the field, but 20% from the field, five for 25. What's the series averages for field goal percentage?

Field goal percentage is a double check. I know they're threes, they're not there for Boston. It might have changed after this last year. New York would be probably higher in field goal percentage because they take, or they're two point. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, Branson and all too. But it's just weird basketball that the smallest guy on the court

is getting in the lane the most. Tony Parker. He's Tony Parker right now. So he's not scared to get, like, he can't get blocked. Ain't that what Tony Parker used to do? All right. Come in here, right. Right, spin.

Spin to the right. Back to the right. Float that bitch, nigga. His float game was so crazy. Not going in the left. Wedge roll, pick and roll. Wedge roll, rescreen. Yep.

Come on, Tim. Come back. Come do it again. Fuck. Back door. Yeah, man. Brunson got that. But, I mean, I like Boston acting like that's all they got to do is make threes.

Good. Good. Live and die by it, huh? Good. Live by the three, buy by the three. That's what it's been said. I mean. Like, the problem is it's – we know who's the better team,

and it's really not even a close matchup. The only thing that makes it close is because the dominant team spends more time not even shooting threes. These could be considered four-pointers at this point. Right? So you got guys that's shooting shots that's just... You know, they've taken open shots

and semi-open shots just to get it up there. And it's not like you've got a Dwight Howard down there or a Harkinstein where you're going to be getting a lot of offensive rebounds, right? You've got Al Horford, right? And he's most likely sitting in the corner himself, right? And it's like y'all don't even have the drive. You don't do drive and replace. That's one you don't do.

You don't even have drive and dive, which your team's supposed to do that. Jaden Brown dives. Jordan Brown drives. Tatum should be diving with him. The year Miami won the championship, when LeBron and Dwayne Wade said, we're not shooting fucking threes. We're not settling nobody. I drive. I'm driving. You dive

in. They was throwing lobs and lobs. That's what that look like. When one is driving, he'll throw the lob and then he catch it, he throw it right back. That's what you guys should be doing. When one drives because your man is going to turn his back, dive right behind him, y'all will be dunking on everybody.

Jalen Brown and Tatum should be diving every time somebody drives. But no, y'all are sitting on the 3-5 out, floating. So that means I got to drive. But think about it. I got to drive as a guard before we used to drive, look here, right?

Now I have to drive to now look at the 3-point line. Look backwards. And that's the jump pass that's happening most of the turnovers is jump pass and trying to pass it back and I was just about to say this so you look at that part and you say

what are the practices like are they shooting threes all practice are they fucking just shooting threes from Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. They're not even just shooting threes from way back all practice. Because I remember

they told me that Tony's practices was like that. Come in, shoot threes, get shots up, get out. Everybody shoot a line. You shoot a two, get out. Run a line, man.

We don't do that shit here. You gotta run lines if you shoot twos. Get your ass on the line. That's crazy. Everybody, he shot a two. That's crazy. Shot that layup.

Everybody, everybody. Shot that damn layup. Man, run. Shot a layup. Everybody. Everybody. Shot that damn layup. Man, run. Shot a layup, motherfucker. He was in the corner. Everybody. Wide open. I'm a layup.

So shot for this series because you asked, Celtics shooting 39% from the field, 32% from three. Knicks are shooting 42% from the field, 33% from three. So they both shooting the same. It looks good. It looks good. It looks better for the Knicks. I mean, I'm pretty sure the free throw is the changer.

So it's 32-33? Yeah. 32-33 from the three-point line. That's good. Knicks shooting 65% for both teams to be there. But for the three, they both shoot. The Celtics definitely should be at 33. They should be at 37.

Yeah. So they're definitely struggling shooting the three right now. I mean, the free throw percentage don't matter. So Celtics, I want to say, have 58 free throw attempts. They're 49 of 58. And the Knicks, 49 of 76. They got more. 76.

Shooting 65% from the line. That's Brunson. Brunson. No, no, no. The reason the percentage is so low is because of Mitchell's getting fouled. Ah, the fucking Hacker Shack shit. Hacker Mitchell. Which, that is brilliant.

It was too much energy in there. I think he was 4 for 12 in game three. Too much Nick? Nah, I like it. Because he got to step up to that fucking plate. And when he hit that motherfucker, that motherfucker went crazy. Ah! You need to understand that.

4 for 12 from the line. He in his mind. He can really hoop. No, no, for sure. We saw him shooting threes in the summer. I'm going to tell you, listen, the only thing that Seltzer's got to stop doing is I wouldn't foul him. Here's why. They have a Brunson, right?

If you don't foul anybody else, Brunson has to try to get all the fouls. That means if he gets fouled in the backcourt, take the ball out. That means you can hit him six times before you have to shoot a free throw. Right? That means you can beat him the fuck up before it even costs you two free throws and a point.

Oh, you're saying foul him before the penalty. You can just foul. You can just rough him up and just take the ball out. If you're spending fouls on Mitchell and you done wasted four fouls on him because you don't want to get him a lineup, now Brunson is like, ching, ching, I don't have to get a hit.

So that's what they was doing, fouling him to get to the moment? That's all Hackensack. When I looked at the Hackensack rule, it was the dumbest thing because it's like... Wait,'s like think about like somebody like a you know uh denny reed right and he's picking me up full court and he's trying to play rough basketball with me well if nobody else on my team shoots free throws or aggressive that means i have to get i gotta get hit all seven times to get into the penalty. Well, if you're fouling someone who don't

shoot free throws like a Mitchell and you foul him four or five times, that means you can only hit me twice now. Maybe not even. And then if we're in a penalty and you didn't have to hit me, now every time you touch me, I shoot free throws. So that means every time you hit

me, I'm getting rewarded. So I'm getting those Mitchell fouls back too. And then just take Mitchell out. You just take Mitchell out and now Brunson's going to be sitting there doing all the stuff he's doing and every little touch, shoot the free throw. That's crazy. I didn't think that that was...

Why would you want to put them in the penalty early? But they don't think about that. Because at the end of the day, he coming out. By the time y'all... I mean, you know, you're going to waste four fouls on him? Cool. Brunson, go to work. Yeah, but as a team, not even Brunson, we all going to work.

Like, it's super aggressive. Everybody, man, go to the hoop. And then the thing about it is they ain't even wasting a lot of time because they hack-a-shacking right away. And it's stopping the clock. Stopping the clock. Oh, man, what the fuck is going on? Now you got to literally play him on the ice.

I can't even touch him now. Yes. Because any little bump, he just walks to the free throw line. That's the worst thing you want to do with a guy who's a free throw baiter and all that stuff. Celtics stay with that strategy and game three despite being a big Missoula, a man of his way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're not switching up. I mean, listen, they can literally just blow.

It can be a 40-point blowout if they want. He's a military nigga. Like, as great as New York is feeling right now, the fact that it's been a 20-point deficit all the games is kind of disheartening. But if you're the Knicks, obviously, we saw off their game 1-2. You're going to feel that way. You got the wins despite all that stuff. But the players knew what time it was.

I'm just saying, you know, we don't want to keep doing this. My thing with them if I'm coaching, listen, three games, they done had us by 20. Let's just stay within 10. Like, first half, just don't get down by 20. Just stay within 10 like first half just don't get down by 20 just stay within 10 and then when they they have these bad when they have when they go through that slump we gotta go we good i think i'm i'm telling them we going on the slump because we know the slump it's gonna happen it's the game of runs we always talk about too like you know they're gonna make their run they know

we're gonna make our run. But if we stay, like you said, if we stay close and we can strike when they're going through their slump and missing them shots. The question is, do New York have the fucking players to do that from the bench? Because the slump not going to happen from the starters. I don't think the starters are going to be the ones missing. I think it's going to be that second team. OG, he didn't give y'all nothing last game, so he's going to have to do something. He's going to get playing like OG Bobby Johnson right now.

He ain't in Anobi right now. That's Bobby Johnson. How does OG Bobby Johnson? Straight prison. Trying to get his life together. Straight prison room. Trying to get his life together, coming back to the streets. It ain't being him.

Ray Ray got him stealing car radio. It ain't being him. He got his son stealing car radio. It ain't being him. He ain't going in. He said, Deuce. At regular season, Deuce says. His son like, ain't my OG. It's Deuce.

You ask your dad. It's an OG call. Got him stealing car radio. Got his son stealing car radio. Give it a $20. He got Bobby over there.ios got his son stealing car radios giving him $20 Bobby over there he got my boy alright let me stop

ladies and gentlemen we got a very special guest making his first appearance in the arena McDonald's All American NCAA champion out of the University of North Carolina one of four players to win a chip. Uh-oh, be careful.

We got some moving parts here. What's up with you, bro? How you doing? Watch it. Thank you. One of four players to win a chip with three different teams. Did that with the Spurs, Raptors, and the Los Angeles Lakers in the hardest championship in NBA history in the bubble.

Now you can see him talking all things hoop with ESPN on shows including SportsCenter, Get Up, First Take, and NBA Today. He's also got a podcast called Inside the Green Room. Danny Green, welcome to Gills Arena presented by Underdog. What, what? We appreciate you pulling up. Nah, it's an honor and a pleasure, man. Thanks for having me. This is dope, man.

It's a really good setup. How's Elijah, man? He doing good, man. He up there mil, it's an honor and a pleasure, man. Thanks for having me. This is dope, man. It's a really good setup. How's Elijah, man? Yeah, he doing good, man. He up there milking it. Making sure. Making sure he good, man. Yeah, yeah, he good. Tapping with him.

All right, boy. I'll tell him to come down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, Danny Green was teaching me some good shit last summer. A little bit. Cutting, go with that cut. He was like playing without the ball. He could score.

We know he can do that. See if he can do some different things. But he's good, man. He's a good kid. So, Dan, we appreciate you pulling up. We were in the middle talking about Celtics-Knicks game three. Obviously, Celtics found their stroke. Got the win shot 50% from three.

But when you look at the squad, what were your impressions of that game? What were your biggest takeaways from that game three win by the Celtics? I mean, Celtics to me was a better team. They just haven't played well. They played pretty historically bad the first two games. And that might cost them the series, honestly. And some of it could be fatigue because they had been so many years of being East of Conference Finals, finals, won a championship. A lot of them played in the summertime. But, nah, there's no real excuse. Like, the way that they were performing,

they're up 20 both those games. They finally closed out a game. That's what I saw. They finally actually stayed locked in for four quarters instead of, you know, two and a half. Knicks went up 2-0. This is what we're hitting on right before you came out. But Knicks go up 2-0, but had to overcome 20-point deficits both those games.

Same situation in Game 3. Obviously, we're not able to overcome that. Should the Knicks be a little nervous right now with how this series is going? They're playing with house money. They're not supposed to be winning. But, I mean, if they let them get another win, the pressure's all on New York because you lose a series being up 2-0, beat them twice at home. But they're not supposed to win the series.

Nobody bet on the Knicks to win the series. Well. Maybe a game or two. Well, maybe some New Yorkers. What's going on with the New Yorkers? Some New Yorkers, but I mean, I'm from New York. I didn't think I was, you know, if they won two, I was like, if they can take this to seven, that's a good series for them.

But there's going to be a lot of pressure on them if they lose these two games at home. I'll tell you that. Especially Cat. More so Cat than anybody. Yeah. It's 2-1, right? Yeah.

It's 2-1 right now. Yeah. Okay. Sean, you only played three games in this season. Yeah, you hear a lot of shit. I'm just like, we're in control right now, ain't we? We played tonight, right? Yeah, I played tonight.

We played tonight, right? We played tonight, right? I'll tell play tonight. We play tonight, right? I'll tell you, this game right here, all 48. Who? Brisbane? All 48. Yeah. Because I just, mathematically, you know if you go up 3-1,

you have a 94% to 96% chance of winning the series. New York. That means I'm treating this like game seven. Facts. Yeah. I'm like, hey, listen. 48. There's no shoot around there.

You sleep all year long. And with Josh Hart and Bridget, all three of y'all. All three of y'all. We need 48 all night. And I'm telling you, Kat, you better turn into the tiger. I need 25. OG, I don't know what you've been doing these last couple days, man. I don't know what's been going on.

But God damn it, if you can give me 15 tonight, we're good. I can't know what's going on. But goddammit if you can give me 15 tonight. We're good I can't win with two and five. That's insane 41 minutes. I think a is a lot to do with JB having to take a little step back, though. If he played 48, they all should be prepared to play 48. But OG don't play well when Jalen is taking over. See that? You see that? The last stretch of their season, they all play good when Jalen has to...

Yeah, he can be in the driver's seat, but sometimes you got to take your foot off the gas some and facilitate a little more. That lets Mikkel get involved, because Mikkel don't get involved until the fourth quarters. Yep. But JB be aggressive, but you still got to let those guys, you know what I'm saying, let them rock a little bit. But that's when they, to me, are a more successful team. Dribbling.

Jalen obviously missed the clutch. He get all the buckets in the fourth quarter, but that always isn't a formula for success, for winning. But yes, the first team to three is usually the team that wins the series. So we're going to talk Celtics in a second, defending champion Boston Celtics, but Dan you brought a special present with you to the arena. We got the Larry O'Brien trophy. Oh word? In the arena right now.

Is it here? They brought it through. It's coming through. Okay. Uh oh. It's coming through. Shoot. Uh-oh. They came with the mindset. Bring that damn trophy, ladies. Being satisfied, but I think it was just subconsciously satisfied.

Uh-oh. Being up 2-0. It's coming. Just not the way we need to approach the game. There you go. We got the trophy. We're going to bring it out in just a second. Yeah. There it is.

You see, heavily secured. Oh, yeah. My guy, Mike. Shout out to Mike Levine. He gets it done. Unboxing. Now, this is this year's. That's this year's?

I think so. That's the one that was supposed to be in the Lakers? Steal it, girl. That was supposed to be in the Lakers? Steal it, Gary. That was supposed to be a prize? There you go. Steal it. Yeah. Take it back to his rightful place.

Tiffany. That's why I got the Tiffany bag in there. So you just roll around with it. You got three. You want three of them things. I get it. Uh-oh. Look at it.

Put the gloves on. Put the gloves on. Put the gloves on. Don't get it all greased. Is this the new one? I think it's the new one. When you African-American, they give you gloves. All right, all right.

We got grease fingertips. No gloves, no love. No shake butter. No shake butter. That cocoa butter be smearing it. They give you the OJ gloves if it don't fit? What's going on? Uh-oh.

Yeah, yeah. Where you been at? Oh. Ladies and gentlemen, we have the Larry O'Brien trophy here in Gills. Don't tell Adam Silver. We don't want no black SUVs in the neighborhood. Let's take a look. Oh, oh. Yeah, we can bring it in here first. them let them look at it don't touch it though Just look at it. Yeah, you can tell us a newer version about the bottom. That might be this year's lovely

Did already pre did already pre have the Lakers on and let me see did it have LeBron Yeah, I can see the erase mark right there. Oh, man. I don't got no gloves on. I'm not going to touch it. Yeah, you can tell by the bottom. It's the newer one. Yeah. I guess this one came in in 2021.

Oh, there's names on there. The bottom was different before 2021. The Warriors, Denver, and then... Oh, okay. So, yeah. Those are the newer ones. So, we got Warriors, Denver Nuggets, and Celtics. Mm.

And it was supposed to have... How do you feel about the Eastern Conference Finals and Western Conference Finals MVPs? I like it. Look, okay. I get it, right? It's the evolution of the NBA. But it's unfair to the past if we're comparing and we're doing these GOAT debates and we're doing these rankings.

Because you're using these rankings and you're using accolades to move people. Well, there's accolades that wasn't available for people. Like, you know, when you talk about Bill Russell, finals MVP wasn't available then. So you're also not okay with them having positionless awards for first team, all defense, and NBA. Okay. I get where that came from because that came from the Jokic-MB debate. Okay. Right?

When you have a – because it kind of hurts them. I mean, Pat Ewing back in the day. And that hurt Pat Ewing and, you know, them too. It kind of screwed it up a little bit where you have two runner-up, but one is playing on the second team. So when you're doing these first team, second team, it's like, oh, he got three second teams. Well, if it was the runner-up to MVP, he should be first team.

And so I get it. So you're not a fan of celebrating the Eastern Conference Finals and West Conference Finals like MVP, like individual? I mean, I don't mind it. It has to be factored in a little bit. You can't use these awards and push it over somebody else's and if that wasn't available. And that's how I look at it.

I'm all for just creating new awards like the MVP versus the best player in the league, right? There should be a best player in the league and an MVP. There should be, you know, there should be something that separates. I love that. I mean,

you know, we won the hardest in-season tournament championship in the league. Should there be an in-season tournament MVP? Yeah, there is one. There is one? Is there? I think so.

I don't know. We just gave it to Bron. I don't know if that was a real thing. We didn't have a... We just gave it to Bron. We had nothing to do with it. I don't know if it was a real... Wait.

Giannis? Wait, who won it this year? Yeah, someone. The Bucs. The Bucs. Was Giannis a mid-season MVP? I guess. I don't know.

I didn't know they had one, honestly. I got MVP for everything. But tonight's game. So you got the Knicks tonight? I got Boston. Okay. I'm a Laker fan, man. I'm a new New York.

Both L.A. teams made me look bad, bro. I am technically New York right now. Giannis won it. I'm more Bronson. I'm players. I just, I like players. I'm with you. I think Boston. You know what I mean? Just the players are so good. I think Boston. I just, I like players. I'm with you. I think Boston.

You know what I mean? Just the players are so good. I think Boston. I think Boston are going to make it a series today. Well, let's talk a little bit about the Celtics. So, Jason Tatum leading the Celtics, points, rebounds, assists, and steals for this playoffs. Broke out of a shooting slump game three, 40% from the field. He is.

He's leading them all categories. What? Yeah. Again. Even still, with Bronson's poor performances. It steals. Jason Tatum. It didn't last year. Even still with run through four performances. It stills. Jason Tatum. It didn't last year.

But last year he played good. Like the start of this series he had a tough game too man. 40% of the field last game. 56% for three.

So Tatum heavily criticized with his lackluster fourth quarters in the first two games of the series. Now after the Celtics game three

win he said that comes with being the guy. You understand what comes with being that guy, right? I live a great life. I ain't going to lie. I make a lot of money. I take care of my family.

I've been able to experience a lot of things. But you also have to accept what comes with that, right? I get a lot of praise. I experience a lot of things. But you also have to accept what comes with that. I get a lot of praise. I get a lot of credit. I get a lot of accolades. But I'm not perfect, and there's times where I've needed to play better. I've needed to do more. And that's what comes with being that guy.

So just understanding that. And it's not that people. So just understanding that, and it's not, you know, that people don't just criticize me. There's a lot of people that came before me that they criticized, and there's going to be people that, you know, come after me that they criticized. And, you know, for me, it's just a sense of joy that I play with, right? You know, coming into a game, you know, with an angry face and mad at the world, that's not who I am.

That's not when I play my best. So I always say you've got to be the same person when things are going great and when things aren't going great. You can't switch up. That's the character of a good man. So there's been a lot of discourse around who is the man on this team. Jalen Brown, like you guys just talked about, won the Eastern Conference Finals MVP.

Finals MVP during the championship run last season, but Tatum became just a sixth player in NBA history to lead their squad in points, rebounds, and assists during the championship run, but the only one to not win Finals MVP. And again, we talked about this a little bit on playback this weekend, but does Tatum deserve more credit for being the guy

on this Celtics squad and impacting the game with more than just scoring? Listen, we know he's the guy on the team because whenever the team plays bad, he's the one that's pointed out. How we talk about the game today, we discredit we try to discredit whoever is that guy.

We don't attack number two or number three. It always falls on the guy who we believe is the number one guy, and we try to beat them down. You know, because I guess that's a part of the game. It's not the part that we sign up for. You know, when we're in the gym practicing and we're spending hours and days and watching film and studying

and, you know, being a student of this game, we don't factor in that I'm going to be hated for it. Right? You know, that's never crossed my mind that I'm going to be hated for it, right? You know, that's never crossed my mind that I'm shooting 2,000, 3,000 shots a day just to be criticized when I have a bad game. None of us ever went through that. I mean, it wasn't designed for it.

Like, we want to be praised. Like, I don't care what anybody says. We want to be liked. We want to be appreciated. We want to be appreciated. Just men, right? You know, when we pay our light bills and we pay the bills that our kids, we want them to say, hey, thank you, daddy, for this shit.

That doesn't happen for us, right? We're paying the bills and no one looks at us, right? Father's Day is coming around. None of us, we're going to get a stupid ass sweater and some socks, okay? We accept that. It's just like in basketball. It's just like in basketball. It's like we accept now our 50, 10 and 10.

It's just going to be like, all right, good job. That's what you're supposed to do. And then as soon as we have a five for 25, oh, we told you he ain't the man. Sorry, motherfucker. You ain't in a category no more.

Retire. That's our reality now. I mean, he's not wrong. He's not wrong. A lot to digest there, by respect. Does he deserve more credit? I think he gets enough credit. I think he, the start of the season,

he came out with a different type of edge, chip, after that summer. I feel like he needs to get back to that. But he handled himself very well. There's a lot of superstars that do not, after being criticized needs to get back to that. But he handled himself very well. There's a lot of superstars that do not, after being criticized, approach the podium like that, some of whom don't even get on the podium. Some of them speak after wins and losses, some guys dip out. So I've never been the guy, so I don't know what it's like.

I've been a role player and been criticized, and I know that it'll get to you. It's a pain in the ass. So for him to handle the criticism that way, it shows a lot of maturity of maturity even though he is a vet. He's only like 25 26 years old But Reason why they don't just blame just him when the team loses is blame him because he plays bad and yes They give him credit if he played well and they lost it'd be different narrative, you know I think there was something they did in the past they didn't go to as much. But they played bad.

They played terrible. He played bad. He didn't create. So if he did other things besides scoring, if he created, he rebounded one of the games. But if he created, if he was playing the pick and roll and was the pick guy and rolled and played the Draymond roll, played quarterback, finished at the rim, assisted, impacted the game that way, then we'd be like, oh, Jason Tatum did his job. Chris Daphne Porzingis didn't show up.

Or Jaylen Brown didn't show up. All those guys are on payroll and make a lot of money. And they're over the cap for a reason. They're paying for a championship. And if they lose in the second round, there's going to be some issues within the front office and the roster. Somebody's going to get traded. So it's not just on him.

But it is on him when he's getting paid a lot of money and doesn't play well. But I think he gets enough credit. Probably could get more, but he has a really good team around him. He has a lot of good pieces around him and getting paid a lot of money. So if he plays the way he's supposed to play, even if they lose, he'll get the credit. Let's shift to this side of the couch. Mr. B, we'll start with you. What do you think about what Tatum said about being the guy? I mean, I do agree. I do think he does get enough credit. He is a great player. But the guy, I mean, if you're the guy, then you will have a finals MVP.

You'll have a playoff MVP. Your running mate has that. So if you're going to be the guy, then make sure that at the end of the year, this year, you're holding up the finals MVP. Your running mate has that. So if you're going to be the guy, then make sure that at the end of the year, this year you're holding up the finals MVP if you're the guy. And we're just going to sit here and wait. How does that one trophy define

if he's the guy? Because if you use that across the board, then all the narratives will change. So Steph wasn't the guy when he lost? When he wasn't the finals MVP? Even when they won. Because he wasn't the first three times they won. Nobody criticized him.

He has won. Won. At the end. The last one. But the first three times, he wasn't the guy? No, he wasn't the guy. He wasn't the guy until he got the finals MVP. No, but nobody.

What are you saying? Y'all trying to change what he's saying? No, I'm not. No one said that. We're asking if that's true. No, he already said what he said. Y'all asking to change what he's saying? No one said that. He already said what he said. Y'all asking again. He said what he said.

But the one before that, to me, I thought he was the guy. Who they gave it to? The world said he was the guy. But also, Steph had two MVPs already. What happened? Steph already had two MVPs. Also, so now it changes. Because MVP means more than the finals MVP.

No, but what I'm saying is Tatum don't have none of that. So me being a top five player, me in an MVP race, none of that matters? Nope. You're in the MVP race. Steph has two MVPs already before we even got there. I'm in the MVP race, and I'm an all-star, and I'm first-team all-NBA. None of that matters.

No, you're on the list to the party. You can get in. But you're not going to VIP, bro. Sit at the fucking bar. Order your drinks. Shut up. No VIP? He can go to VIP.

Oh, he can go, but he can't get by the rope. He's not moving the rope for you. We put the stats up there and we put all the metrics up there and then we all voted the MVP. There was a bunch of people that don't like him that voted against him.

You guys used the same complaint about Kobe Bryant. You guys used the same complaint about Kobe Bryant. Yeah, we did. You guys used the same logic against Kobe when he didn't win rings and say, of course, it should have been his, not Steve Nash, and then you used it the opposite way against Tatum. But he got one.

And he never should have been MVP. So that means Steve Nash... Tatum was never in a race to win MVP. I mean, he got it. I mean, it's like I can't change the fact. So you're saying at the end of the year, he's got to get one of those to be the guy. To be the guy. He should be at least the MVP or finals MVP.

Yeah, something. To show. The guy has, if you're the guy in the NBA, you have an MVP or a finals MVP. Russ, James, KD, Giannis, Joker. So the two losses are Jalen Brown's fault? Because he's the guy? If you want to put it that way. I mean, yes.

Yes, that's fine. Absolutely. I'll go with that. I'm with that take. That's what I'm saying. As long as that just... I'll go with that. So he can go left?

I'm sharing the blame. They're both the guys. You just got to be fair. I can say something negative about him. Don't say you the man, but then they come to me in the media and killing me in the media all day. He didn't say. He said he the man. No, no, no.

He said I'm the man. We didn't say he was the man. He said it's what happens when you're the guy. He said that. Who are you saying? We didn't say Jason Tatum, you're the guy. We didn't say that. He just said this is what happens.

Could you play a clip? Because I want to show y'all some light skin shit. Who's the guy? You're saying J. Brown. J. Brown's the guy for me. All those losses, you should be blaming J. Brown. You shouldn't even mention Tatum then, right? No. I don't know why.

I'm sharing his blame. They're both the guys. They get paid enough money, they're both the guys. They're both the guys. I mean, he's the guy. That's the guy. Okay, so we shouldn't even talk about him then. Let's talk about him.

But Jalen Brown never said that he was the guy. Exactly. No, you said he is. No, no. I'm saying, yeah. We both said it. We're talking about what he said. He said, I'm the guy.

That's right now. So for game one and two, why y'all didn't blame him? Why y'all didn't blame him? I blamed the whole team. I blamed the whole team. Nobody blamed Jason Tatum. But I didn't blame Jason Tatum. Nobody blamed Jason Tatum. Tatum does have an Eastern Conference Finals MVP.

I know. That's what he does. I didn't say anything about, oh, Tatum ain't doing this. I'm like, this team. He just pointed it out. Clearly, Jason, Tatum ain't doing this. Tatum ain't. It was the team. I'm like, this team. He just pointed it out. Clearly, Jason Tatum has been playing bad basketball. Which he would even admit, I think, in those first two games. So. Fourth quarter, but still.

He's been playing bad basketball and leads the team in every category. That means everyone else has been playing worse. But no one's paying attention because you want to keep. Because you want to call yourself the man. Yes. In game three. I don't care what game. You call yourself the man.

After the win. You're going to take accountability for what happens. After the game, this is game three. This is not after game one. So who was blaming in game one? Nobody was taking accountability for being the man in game one. They were a team. Nobody came out and said, I'm the man, this and that.

I got a question. If they lose, what do you change? The coach? Joke? Damn! Damn, Mr. B. Joke and go. Joke and go is a part of that. He's not a better coach than Udoka. But Udoka has a job already. He's not. He's not. He didn't used to.

He just came in and, you know, hey, man, this is what I got to work with. So you change coach. If I'm GM, He's not. He's not. He's not. He's not. He's not. He's not. He's not. He's not. He's not. He's not. He's not.

He's not. He's not. He's not. He's not. He's not. He's not. He's not. He's not.

He's not. He's not. He's not. He's not. He's not. He's not. He's not. He's not. He's not. He's not. They both Both of them gone. I'm gonna put him here. I'm gonna put drew in here and I'm put Porzingis in the air and Al Horford Depending on what he's making. I'm cool with what Al brings me. He's making like 10 I think then I'm cool without but he'll be a free agent believe after this season then I

Had to you do so this is his last year on that deal. This is his I'm I'll be looking to sign him back I mean, I don't you know for like five. Yeah, you know, whatever he's he's a great last year on that deal? I believe this is his... I will be looking to sign him back. I mean, I don't... Sign him for like five, ten years? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever. He's a great asset. Yeah, it's the last year of his deal, so he's free agent.

He's serviceable. Yeah. He's serviceable. So with Drew and Porzingis, I will be looking for another impact player for that money that they're making. Because you're making star money. Both of you guys, right?

They're both making damn near. So what I can get, if I can trade both of them? What's the pieces? It's a big wing, a point guard. Big. Okay. Mr. B, you have it. And there was talks about this KD situation a couple seasons ago.

Both of them would match up to Giannis. I knew he was going to say that. Right? I'm just saying. There are reports Giannis may not be as happy as... Don't Bobby that, man. Don't worry about it. But what I'm saying is both of their monies match up to Giannis. Yeah.

They both make some big money, so you can get a really big free agent that's producing more than them two combined. But I'm not getting rid of Jalen. If you talk to me about Jalen Brown, Tatum, or White right now, you're fired. You're fired. President, you come in here talking that bullshit about Brown, Tatum at 26 and 7. 26 and 7.

You're telling me to trade anybody that's 26 and 7? You're getting fired. Don't even talk to me. I mean, it's a new owner. So, fire. Tatum, 27. Brown, 28. Fire.

Miko Harris. Don't he still got his job? Yeah. Who did he trade? No, it's not who did. He didn't trade nobody. Hey, how old was dude. He didn't trade nobody. Hey, how old was dude? He didn't trade nobody.

Let's not even pretend that. He didn't trade nobody. That was his decision. How old is dude? 25? Right, 25. He's saying that 25 at the time turned 26. That's all that's above him. If Luka can go, guess who else

can go? Everybody must go. The person who brought that to attention, I can't fire him. He can fire me. It was just like the dude who tried to trade Chris Paul. Everybody pretends that he really traded Chris Paul himself, the general manager, and there was no owner. You really think you can do that? I'm a general manager with no owner, and I can trade an asset?

It'd be fucking crazy. Y'all be leaving this shit. That was the NBA call, man, and they got called out, and then they had to retract it and then sit his ass somewhere else. So we talked about the Jason Tatum side. Let's shift over to the Jalen Brown side in terms of who is the guy on this squad. So Jalen Brown came to the Celtics a year before Tatum. He's embraced his role as the vocal leader of this team, referring to himself as the captain. During All-Star weekend, Brown was asked why he calls himself the Celtics captain

and offered this response, saying, quote, One, I'm the longest tenured Celtic. I've been here the longest, so even though we don't necessarily have it written down, the team moves to the things me and Jason do. I feel like my team relies on me to be the leader, the vocal leader. I've taken that role,

and defensively being the head of the snake, taking on those matchups, my team feeds off of that, so it's understood, I guess. So, let's start with this side of the couch. My question for you guys, any issue with Jalen Brown being the vocal leader of this team, or is that something that Tatum

needs to embrace more of? No, I think they both play their roles the best way for the team. You know, you have one that's you have one that's more of the face and the star, and then you have the other one that's more the vocal leader, the dog. That's why I think they work good together.

You know, so I do have to say that. But, yeah, Brown, that's what he does. That's why he is one of the leaders. And, you know, defensively, that's why he always takes on the big roles. So, I mean, I'm rolling with both statements from both guys. It's just, you know, it depends on how you feel. I'm a Jalen Brown guy. So, to me, he's the guy.

So, you know, when they're not winning, they're not playing well, shit is on him. Rashad, I see you nodding your head in agreement. 100%. Okay. What's understood needs no explanation. For sure. And moving inside the couch, a couple years ago when the Souths were struggling, there was talks, oh, they need to break up the Jays, they need to move on.

But it seems like you keep those two pieces together, even if you don't advance past the second round of the season, you've seen where they can get to, the success they've had in the postseason during their time with the Celtics, and tell some other guys to move around. Yeah, I mean, this is an NBA where you're talking about guys that are coming in at 18. Yeah, they're seven, eight years in the league,

but they're fucking 25, 26 at that point. Right? So, yeah, it might look old to you, but they're not old players. So when you're talking about trading, you know, your core away and they haven't even hit 30, I mean, it's just, what are you looking for? Right? You're trading, like, as long as you have them on your team, you're going to be in contingents of something so all you just got to keep just keep putting puzzles around

it until it matches versus trying to say alright we're going to blow this thing up and then bring back what 118 19 roads you did mention a name a little bit older than that Cooper

I'm just saying, they're Boston. They can get a lot if you keep Jalen Brown and Tatum together. You could just keep adding around. And it's Boston Celtics. Four years of rotation around them. I mean, like you said, nobody thought it would work until they showed that it could work. And now that they proved that it works, you're not going to find much better. Like, you're going to trade them and get who in return that's available.

Like, Luka ain't going to be able to. Like, you're not going to find much better. And then the drafts up and down. Some of them are strong. Some of them are weak. You just never know how it's going to pan out. But that's a big risk. When you have talent now, that's good for another five years at least.

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Ten toes coming soon. Let's talk to Nick. You talked about Cat, some of his struggles. So second straight 20-point double-double, but was 5-for-18 from the field. And a little concerning video from the game during the second quarter. Cat was spotted grabbing his left hand and peering to mouth. I broke it. Talking about a finger.

So according to Nick's beat reporter Christian Winfield, Cat was a full participant in the Nick practice on Sunday. Expected to play in game four. Cat has struggled from long range in this series. After going 12 for 25 for three against the Pistons in the first round. Through the first three games of this series, he's just one

for seven from beyond the arc. So should the Nicks be worried about Cat's finger injury and his three-point struggles? What? I would be more worried about his mentality than his finger. I don't know who he was talking to saying he broke it, but I think there was some portion he might have been talking to his

pops. I'm not 100% sure where. Cheerleader? His pops at his baseline? Maybe wifey. It might have happened. Said if it happened in the game, a broken finger. It's on his left hand, right? Yeah, not a shooting hand.

Don't need it. You don't go left much. Yeah, you don't shoot left foot. I thought it was a three. I mean, they go as far as he goes, right? This is why Minnesota traded him. They didn't think he was consistent enough. They needed more grit, more edge.

Yep. And Minnesota has figured some things out, and they're looking pretty good right now, even though the series against Golden State, a little up and down. They look a little shaky. We're going to talk about that in a second. But they're winning. Cat has something to prove, man. And for some reason, even during the regular season, he did not play well against Boston.

And if they want to beat Boston, he has to show up. Whether his finger's broke or not. If you're on the court, you got to hoop. How big of a deal is a broken finger in your non-shooting hand for those of us who have never played? It depends on how much you use it. I've never been the guy, so I can't speak on it.

You had a very solid bottom line. I never had to handle the ball. He ain't dribbling that much either, so he's not bringing the ball up the floor. He's using his right hand most of the time. I think he can get away with it, so I don't think it's that detrimental. If he's a point guard, I'd have to bring the ball up. If he's a defensive guy that had to use his hand a lot,

it depends on what part of the hand, the metacarpal, if it's above the finger. If it's ring finger, I'm not 100% sure. Did he say it's broke? The self-diagnosis. He was not on the injury report for game four. No report, no shams. Not on the injury report for game four. No report. No Shams. Not on the injury report.

Shams be everywhere, don't he? Listen, I don't believe shit to Shams. I don't believe your shit broken. Full participant in practice on Sunday. Broke his nail. So if it's not in the hand, then he's good. If it's above, like, you know, because you have a broken metacarpal in the hand, which is more detrimental. But if he's broken up top or dislocation, tape it up, you know, because you have a broken metacarpal in the hand, which is more detrimental.

But if he's broken up top or dislocation, tape it up, go back, keep hooping, bro. Shots to your team. You're a big man. Leave us alone. Big bodega. Leave us alone, man. Big purr. Shit.

Meow me. The cat's cage is next to the lion's cage in the zoo, okay? You just got to mimic it. Motherfuckers be going in the wrong cage sometimes. You know what I'm saying? We got to figure out where the cat at. You in the kitten cage or you in the lion cage today? Because all that fucking shit.

He be doing too much, man. He be doing too much. He got food. He got raw meat over here. He did take 18 shots in that game, played the whole game. You're in trouble. No, we're going to come. Hey, look, we're coming out to a strong start.

We're playing in the garden. Can't get down 20, man. We're not. We're not. It's in the garden. It don't happen. They never seen this. They haven't seen this energy since.

You say it was too much. It was way too much. They've been down 20 in all three games. They're going to bring Eddie down. They're going to bring Eddie down for sure. The horse is going to come out. They haven't led in a game. They've led about 12 minutes in the whole series.

Yep. They've played 12 quarters. Right? 12 quarters and they've led one quarter out of the 12. It'll be another 20. They better figure something out, man. So let's talk about the Knicks leader, Jalen. This is just everybody in the front row.

Everybody on a – it should be mandatory. Everybody in the front row, all black Air Force One. Black socks. Too many X's. Just black. Just let the – because, you know, as players, we know what that looks like. That means energy on high alert, right? Spike Lee pulling out the tubes.

All of them. Spike Lee, the white lady that's sitting next to you. Black forces. Fat Joe. Yeah, everybody wear black forces. It's all them. As soon as we run out, we just looking at, oh, shit. It's Fat Joe.

It's all of them going to the game. They fucking the mojo up. Y'all ain't been there the whole time. Y'all show up and you're fucking up the energy. Can't bring the celebrity. Where's Tracy Morgan? That's who we need. He's the only one that we need there. Him and Spike cool.

Ben be cool. Ben be cool. Everybody else can just goddamn move around. Fucking up the energy. John Starrs, you good. Steph is good. You know Steph, you always good. J.R. Smith good.

J.R. cool too. They doing too much. They got Pat walking around like he got black socks on, man. He got black? He got white shoes though. He Euro style? White socks with the black? That's nasty.

Why I mean white shoes with the black socks? That's nasty. You know what I'm saying? Rostow white socks with the black that's next why I mean white shoes with the black Euro style But it magic other, got the black stripe. He usually be like all white with the black stripes. You're like, wait, hold on. So unnecessary, dude.

We got company here and there. No, that's it. No, I always thought that was your role. Like at home, I own it, bro. I respect it. But quick, before we move on, how can New York keep from getting punched in the mouth to start a game for it? Like we said, 20-point deficits in all three of these first games. Duck.

Duck because the boys is punching. Limit the three. That's all Boston. I mean, they shot 60 in game one, but they shot 40 in game two. I don't know how many. 40 in game three as well. Somewhat limit. I guess limit as much as possible.

And then Cav cats got a hoop This cat Oh Jalen Jalen is there Oh gee Mikkel got to get involved earlier. Yeah Yeah about the OG to straight back earlier I think it starts with cat, you know cat or cat and Josh kept them in the game most of the game in game two Well the difference you gotta look at the difference is they're taking them out of the original sets. The things that Cat are used to doing in the mid post and how he's taking the ball off the dribble. Think about who the defender is. Drew Holiday is playing the nail. And if we watch and film, Drew, you got to be there on all the cast drives. He's driving when we're swing, swing. He's driving where you have to be there because you're our stopper.

You're our blitz guy. You are Mike back. So when you look at their defensive scheme for cat, it's Thibodeau that has to change up the offensive sets. Like you said, we're going to get these guys involved early. We need to put them in actions where it don't involve cat at all. Let's allow cat to be the decoy. And we bring Przingis out of the paint and we allow other guys to get going early. But it's not going to happen that way because Tibbs only know one way. Do you think Cat can know how to be effective in that type of style of play? When we look at Joker, right? Dribble handoff. Stay at the top.

You dribble handoff everything. You pass and pop. You pass and move. You pass and move. You're always moving, but you're not sitting in that post position where you're clogging the paint up. You're allowing guys to move freely. They haven't made that adjustment. That's why he can't get off like that.

So you think he'll get off more? He'll get open shots because dribble handoffs force you to rotate. Rotates, they force open shots, dribble drives. I would to rotate rotates they force open shots dribble drives i would do old school put them down there turn face up turn i would do turn two and have no i have brunson come off turn one i'll turn turn turn five but with brunson coming off. I'd have Josh Hart as the entry pass, and then cut through. And then first five possessions, go.

Because you have Tatum. You're saying throw it in the cat from Brunson? No, I have Brunson coming off. Because he's the more crafty one. So I might be able to hit him. Oh, you're going to you gonna tight curl I'll tight curl Brunson got it and then let him bump him a little bit and then see if we can dump it in right To him and say I need you to get foot in paint He's not Tatum is not defensively Sound enough not to reach. Right.

If we can get two quick fouls on him or one foul on him, that helps us a lot. And the fact that he's guarding you the whole game. Yeah. So the reason you're struggling against him is because you like to pop. Yeah. And then when he closed out, now you got to drive and you don't have the foot speed on you. Yep, he can guard you.

Right? But if I put you in a post, give you a couple bangs here and there, then I try to pull up. You're going to reach. All I need is a quick foul on you. And then from there, if I can get another one on you, now you're sitting out. Effect the game.

But the fact that you're sitting around floating at the three-point line, you're not putting. If I'm cat, right? He's guarding you. No, that's actually a better take. That's actually a better take. So you think Phipps is getting outcoached? Yeah, I do. But like what he just said, that's a coaching thing.

That's a get on the post and we're going to take advantage of Jason Tatum. So I'm thinking getting him involved for him, but you're thinking getting him involved to put pressure on Tatum, put pressure on Boston to go to their bench, which is way smarter because you can turn one, you can do that quick little screen right there for him, get him involved a couple times. And Jason Tatum don't want to play defense. After that initial fight down, he's going to let you score.

He's not going to try to block your shot. He don't want to do none of that. He's going to save his foul. Those first five plays, it's like, I'm going to force it down there. And then second half, same thing. Turn five. He's not getting positioned.

That's what he's not doing. He's getting pushed off the ball. How many possessions do you think he needs throughout the game at that? At that? You know how, like, also you start off with the first five and see what he's doing, right? And then if he's successful with it, then you just keep feeding him, you know, milk it a little bit. You know, Brunson's going to always do Brunson.

And then if they start doubling now, Josh Harden will be open. Now McHale get his wide-open shots, and OG can dive, and it kind of, you know, if Kat's getting doubled on the post, actually it's going to open up a lot. It's going to open up a lot. Do they have the discipline to do that? You think the discipline of Kat

getting back-to-back buckets, right? Right? And then somebody comes down, and they got to open three. Are they going to pass that three up to pull it out and set it up and we go right back to that New York will You think they would Mikhail Mikhail is disciplined enough Josh Hart is disciplined. No, it's like they turned they open a turn No, they turn down shot Josh does not he does well Early though. No, no But that early in the game? Yeah.

Josh was on the road. I'm shooting that. I'm shooting. I mean, I think Josh will do it. I think Mikel and OG, I think, are shooting. But if we know what the game plan is, the game plan is to get Cat involved early. Yeah, but they probably got it off a miss. Yeah, transition fast break.

Yeah, but that's not a – Three touches a quarter, honestly. No, that's a – Because if you don't get him involved offensively, I don't think you get much from defense. We run the play. Okay, we can go back to you. It's like, I don't like a guy who's happy to just be floating around. Yeah. You know what I mean? He's just

out there. Nobody can yell that. Nobody. You talking about OG? No. Cat. Yeah, you got to get him involved. Where is the, like, you know, hey, man, hey, hey, come on, man. You got to do some of that. He's not one of them. Hey bring that bitch over here Yeah, so we'll find out what happens in game four man. This is this Man yeah Mike yeah what minecraft see y'all ain't hit y'all y'all at the Met Gala You brought that Gallagher to give the ring to present about underdog. We'll be galloping. I mean, I was let's move over to the West y'all at the Met Gala two gills arena presented by Underdog

you know what I mean so let's move over to the Western $40,000 to look at each other not here let's move over to the Western Conference Wolves had no problem with the Warriors in game 2 cruising to a 24.1 with Steph missing his first full game of the series

while dealing with a strained left hamstring so with Steph still sidelined in game 3 Steve Kerr rolled out a starting lineup the Warriors had never used this season his first full game of the series while dealing with a strained left hamstring. So with Steph still sidelined in game three, Steve Kerr rolled out a starting lineup the Warriors had never used this season. Dubs put up a fight, but Ant-Man and Julius Randle helped Minnesota deliver the knockout punch. Let's watch some of the highlights if we can, please. Wolves were on the hunt earlier in the game, jumping out to a nine-point lead, but the Warriors went on an 11-0 run to end the first quarter

and start the second quarter to keep things close. Both teams struggled offensively in the first half, with the Warriors leading 42-40 at the break. Warriors did not make a single three-pointer in the first half, becoming the first time to have a lead at halftime of a playoff game without making a three since the Raptors in 2017, while the Wolves shot 34% from the field in the half. Playoff, Jimmy tried to put the team on his back taking on the role of Batman with Steph watching from the bench.

Butler finished with 33.7 rebounds and 7 assists, 12-26 from the field, 7-9 from the line. Jonathan Kaminga had his best game of the playoffs coming off the bench with 30 points and 6 rebounds on 11-18 shooting including 3 of 4 from 3 in his 36 minutes of action. Buddy Hill was the only other warrior starter to score in double figures finishing with 14 points of five assists he was four of eight from three Draymond green fouled out with a little over four minutes remaining in the game two points two rebounds four assists and five turnovers so words were down by our wolves were down by as much as seven late in the third quarter and down five

with a little over eight minutes remaining before their offense finally started clicking. Anthony Edwards had a monster second half while showing no signs of being hampered by the sprained ankle that he suffered in game two. Ant-Man put up 28 of his 36 points in the final two quarters. 15 points in the third, 13 in the fourth quarter. He was 13-28 from the field, 5-14 from three.

Julius Randle messed around and dropped a triple-double, finished with 24 points, 10 rebounds, and 12 assists. Randle, first Wolves player with a playoff triple-double since KG did it back in 2004. Jada McDaniel scored 9 of his 15 points in the fourth quarter, while Rudy Gobert came just short of a double-double with 9 points, 13 rebounds, and 4 blocks. So with the Warriors up for the little remaining, Ant-Man missed a 3, but Gobert got the offensive rebound, passed it to Julia Randall, who found Ant again in the quarter. He hit the dagger right here, put the Wolves up seven.

Wolves outscored the Warriors 33-24 in the fourth quarter, shot 55% from the field, 50% from three in the second half. They take a 2-1 lead in this series. Danny, watching this game, obviously no Steph. Warriors trying to do their best to stay in this thing. What was your biggest takeaway from the Wolves-Warriors game three? The Wolves just didn't look that good.

As good as they should have, anyway. Second half, they did better. They had no rim protection, Golden State. They were settling early. He finally started going to the basket finishing. Game four, he missed a lot of bunnies. But he finally took upon himself to be more aggressive which they could have been doing all game

but even with that being said that game was way too close for a team that's supposed to be a championship contender or a team that's in the Western Conference Finals I think if they play like that whoever they face whether it's OKC or Denver they're going to get smoked.

And so they got to figure out. They shoot good every, what, four games, three or four games from three? That's not good enough in the playoffs. Gil, we were watching that game on playback. Very hard to watch early on in the game. It was very nasty on the world side. Very nasty defensive game. Nothing looked comfortable from either group.

We expected from Golden State, obviously. But watching Timberwolves just struggle to get open shots when you guys literally had the advantage. But they pulled it out.

I mean, you know, every game is not pretty. You know, they end up pulling it out and, you know, their shooting is going to get better. But, you know, Julius is playing fucking very well. Very well, very well. I mean, this is, I guess he's always, when you really look at it, he's always been a solid basketball player. He's always been a double-double guy. But I guess, you know, just being on this side of the coast and you really get to look at him, like he's really a positive player.

Like he brings more positive than he does negative attributes. Do you think Minnesota's good? No. They don't look like a good team? They don't look like a good team. Does that make the Lakers look worse? Worse. So they have a lot.

I think we got out youth. Yeah, they ain't got no big. No, I think we got out youth. I just don't think. So that makes the Lakers look at themselves like, oh, we got to make some real... We got to make some real changes.

You didn't play Dalton Kinnick. Yeah, yeah. He's not a shooter. Yeah. You got used to sitting there at 15 points a game

right there. Even with Hayes and all that, we needed guys that can just keep up with them. Just to run, get up and down.

Trying to slow the game down on someone who can just get to a jump. It could be just matches. Would you think that would be the same result if they played at Houston? Because they're younger. No, it would be Houston because they don't have a go-to guy that can go to. Maybe not, but they got those two.

The issue was the size, right? You got the double, Stephen Adams and Shang-Goon at the same time. You see what they did to the Warriors with the... Yo, I think they would've slept. It's all... It's all a matchup. It's all a matchup. Ant-Man and Julius.

Ant-Man and Julius took over that series. Don't do that. Don't get sensitive. They don't have to. I'm not allowing you to get sensitive. They had a lot of youth

in Houston. They don't have two guys that's taken over the series. They had two guys that take over the series. Gotcha. And they would've tired them down, too. I don't have two guys that's taken over the series. They had two guys that take over the series. And they would have tired them down, too. I thought Minnesota looked good last series. They don't look good right now. Maybe it's just the matchup.

I think it's Steph being out, too. It kind of changed everything. And then Golden State became like a defensive team. We're expecting great basketball. And they ain't played great basketball all season long. Defense though, man. Minnesota. Defense though.

They had a couple good games in that Lakers series. But this series looks – and maybe it is because the style of play would be different. They were shaky all year, though. It's a very ugly, mucked-up game. No? I mean, the Lakers series made them look better than what they seen all year. But they are playing the exact same basketball that had me kind of like they're going to be 6, 7, you know what I mean?

They ain't got the grit. So, naturally you thought they were a first round exit type team? No, they second round for sure. Okay. Because it's Ant-Man. Ant-Man not going to allow that, but I think his grit can take them from almost losing in the second round to going to the third round. And thinking about, man, are we really supposed to be here?

It's up to him. I think it's really up to him and how he starts the game, how he finishes the game. But then Walker and McDaniels, they got to be more consistent. And Mike Conley got to be more consistent too. They can't be consistent because the reason a lot of these teams can't be consistent and get consistency from the players is because the players aren't getting the same consistent shots. Right?

Like, if you're going to sit in that corner, you're going to sit in that corner. Now it all depicts on how the defense plays, right? Maybe they might double me in your open. Maybe they might play me one-on-one. Maybe they might down it, right? So your shots are not actually consistent. When you have an offense,

the offense itself creates consistency for the role players. And a lot of teams don't have offense for the role players. The triangle, the Princeton offense, right? Wedge roll, right? The offense makes everyone move for everyone. If we're doing a wedge roll, you have to be at the nail every single time or Parker's going to get a layup.

You're going to be at the nail every single time. Number one option. That becomes a shot right here or a swing shot right there. So if I call it 10 times, we know we're going to get maybe about three shots each.

That is consistent basketball for those players to play consistent. In these series, it's basically we're going to play one on one basketball. We're going to pick and roll, they're going to switch, I'm going to go one on one, depending on how that's playing, depending on if you're going to get the fucking ball tonight. So most of these guys just be sitting there chilling. Right? Like I got, if I got shooters, why am I not running? Hey Rudy, we're going to set this pick, right? And then you're going to run into a, you're going to run into a pick you're gonna run into it you're gonna run into a pick

and roll or run into a downstream what happens to those you think somebody knows how to guard that now what happened to the this pick to a down pin down you know you curl at you curl we throw the little lob big pin down man run it

loop two loop three we could even guard that if we knew it was coming cause cause you can't down it anymore. You can't down it. Depending on who you guard. And depending on who you guard. Motherfucker pop back. Hit that bitch in the corner if you cheated.

Motherfucker bury you under the screen. But think about it. What if Nas Reed plays when he gets in? But if I'm going in with Nas Reed, I'm like, Nas, me and you. Hey, listen, we coming down. Look, man. Hey, Mike got the ball. Mike should be saying, just go get him. Go get him.

In the corner. Where's the Nas? Where's the Nas Reid? He has no play. He waits to shoot the three. He don't do nothing but shoot the three. He should be out there. Many years he's been playing. Andre Miller in it. He should be Andre Miller all day right now. Let's talk about the Wolves dynamic duo real quick.

So after game one, Chris French challenged Ant-Man to set the tone in this series. Ant responded with 20 points, nine rebounds, and five dimes in game two in their 24-point win, 36-4-4 in game three. Julius Randle done his part as well, averaging 24 points, 12 assists, nine rebounds in the last two games. So despite the Wolves' struggles offensively, what are your impressions of the Ant-Man and Julius Randle duo so far in this postseason? It's been pretty good. It's better than I expected. When the first, the trade first happened, I thought it was a horrible trade. I thought Cap was a really good piece to give

up and I wasn't sure the pieces they got in return was enough. We've seen what they got I thought it was a horrible trade. I thought Cap was a really good piece to give up. And I wasn't sure the piece they got in return was enough. We've seen what they got for Rudy, right? DiVincenzo struggled some, but he's found a little rhythm here and there. Julius has gotten healthy and playing really well, so it's a good tandem. You know, they found something. they're still missing a piece or two To be in contention for me, but they're better than what I expected them to be You got wrong with Ant-Man and Julius Randall so far

Obviously no stuff makes the circumstance a little different but like we talked about sorry to me is kind of like It's up and down. Based on how the regular season played, I think a lot of people, like you said, would have thought that the Knicks won that trade. It wasn't like a crazy trade. I mean, you know, she got one. I mean, I don't know. It was okay. It's alright.

But I don't think no team really won. I think it's kind of just even. Facts. To me, in that trade. They're both in the same position right now. For sure. Nobody won. I mean, well, Minnesota have a chance to get back to the Western Conference finals for sure.

Well, I mean, the winner is whatever happens this summer. That's really the winner. You know, this record right now doesn't really matter, right? If Julius leaves and they don't re-sign him, then New York won. Right? That's if New York trades Cat and gets Giannis, New York won. Right? You know what I mean?

So it really all depends. Like this season, it's more of what's gonna move So neither one of these teams are winning the championship is what you're saying. No, no the way they're built now No, so New York does not like I like new I like New York's team better than I like So they have a better chance than Minnesota's or something. Yeah, but neither one of them have they're in any danger of winning Larry no, they're not Don't where they're gonna see this trophy This trophy about that at all. Okay. No this They're not. The only way they're going to see this trophy is to watch Killian Reigns. This trophy.

No, no, no. This trophy. I don't think about that at all. This trophy is really on. Do you think the Knicks win the series? Do you think the Knicks what? Win the series. No, I don't think the Knicks win the series.

Listen. You played for the Knicks. I know they're up. I know. You didn't play for the fucking Celtics, Brandon. No, I'm just going by the- What the fuck is going on? I'm just going by the talent. What is going on, broics, Brandon. No, I'm just going by the talent. What the fuck is going on? What is going on, bro?

You live in L.A. I'm just looking by the talent. And you just go, what is you doing? I'm just looking at the talent. That's crazy. I'm just looking at the talent. That's crazy, yo. Like, I get it.

Like, the Red Cross is crazy. It's crazy. You going to go against me? It's less New York winning and more Boston's losing. Right? It's more of the Boston is losing this series versus New York is winning this series. I agree. So I got to look at it like that.

It's like, you know, if somebody say, oh, New York, I mean, Boston's going to win by 30, there's not going to be a lot of people like, I disagree with that. Right? Because the last three games will focus me down 20 something right so you know that it's like oh that could happen um so if if New York does win it's because they grinded out this game this is that's what I said this this game tonight is going to be a grind game. If they can keep this bitch under 105, New York is winning. If they can keep it to about 195 to 105, New York wins.

Yeah. If they get that bitch to 120, I don't think New York can keep up with it. Can I ask you this? Game one and game two, is it a testament to Thibodeau's defense? No. It could be. It could be. No?

No, I can't. Was it a surprise? Was it a surprise, though? Boston just shot themselves out. Did they? I went back and I looked and I'm like, the scouting report had to be, we have to have contested threes. We have to have contested threes. We have to have contested threes.

They scored their shots on second chance points, open threes. They missed a lot of open threes, dog. Game one, they had a lot more open threes than in game two. They shot 60 in game one. So they shot 60 in game one, 40 game two. So they went back and they said, all right, we did a lot. Thibodeau went back and said, hey, man, we got to get a hand up for real. We gave them a lot of open shots.

They just missed. Game two was a defensive game. What happened game three? They hit shots. They still had their hands up? I think so. Yeah, that guard, I mean, that guard, the guard is tricky. Yeah. And the reason I say the guard is tricky because as loud and crazy as the guard gets, the guard really empowers the opponent.

Absolutely. Because New York fans, as much as they love the Knicks, they love basketball. That's the only downfall about a Knicks fan. Knicks fans love basketball, meaning I don't give a fuck who gives it to me. I'm rooting for the Knicks. But if Jalen Brown and Tatum

got five straight threes and they about to hit 50, we cheering. We in this bubble. Oh! For sure. It's a game now. We in this bubble. Oh! For sure. It's a game now. They love the game. To them, treat that light-skinned

motherfucker like he is young. Or Trey Young. Treat him like Trey Young. It's Trey Young coming in the building. A whole bunch of Trey Youngs. Light-skinned Trey Young. A dark motherfucker Trey Young.

A little dark with a ball-headed Trey Young. All of them Trey Young. Probably popped Trae Young with it on the carpet. Right. A foreign Trae Young. The bald-headed big-headed Trae Young. That nigga probably do look like Derrick White with the ass bald head. Everybody Trae Young. Just boot a shit out of him. Every shot you

don't care. Somebody put the side-by-side Trae Young bald-headed. But when you come into the garden, man, just the building itself is like an energy pack. And that energy pack, yeah, it gives it to your team, but it gives it to the opponent too. So that's why all opponents, that star player plays very well in there. Because the energy you bring, you're bringing it for the building. You're not just bringing it for the, you're bringing it for the building. You're not just bringing it for the... You're bringing it for the building itself.

And the other... The opponents can feel that shit. I know if I hit two shots, I know, yeah, I got the light on me. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Then it gets silent in that moment. Come down here one more.

Oh, my God. Money Mitch in that. All that energy go out. Everybody money Mitch. Woo! Shit. It's quiet. What does Boston shoot

average per night from three as a team? Do you know what that is? During the regular season or... Regular season and playoffs, no. So I think 37%

during the regular season. I think they're shooting like 33% in this series. 32. And the games they lost, they shot 15%. They shot 25. They were 25 for 100.

25% sorry. 25 for 100. They made 15 out of 60 and 10 out of 40. Yep. And then 20 out of 40 in game three. Mm-hmm. Missed 45 attempts in game one, right?

Historic. And we're a playoff record. So they're down 5 percent from their regular season stats shooting the three. I think that defense, though. That's got to be defense. Yeah, but in the series combined, I think 32 percent. So they're about 5 percent off of. Yeah, it's because

those two games they shot 25, but regular season's 37, so it's a good 12% off their normal. But that's what he's banking on. Joe's banking on

that 50% gain to keep him where it logically makes sense to him. Because if we get two more... If we get another 20-point gain, pushes us up

to about 36%. So now we look like our mastermind scheme for last year, scheme for this year is to shoot threes. Don't fucking, hey, guys, don't fucking worry about it. Keep shooting. Keep shooting. Because we're going to have four people make four threes tonight. I mean, all we got to do is make 20 at least.

One guy get hot. Derek White got seven threes tonight. Jason Tatum is going, keep shooting 15 threes because he really feels he can get to 10. He really feels like a hit 10 one night. It's so weird. It's gambling for sure, but... It's so weird that you adopted

Golden State's three-point attempts, but didn't adopt the most important part of it. Movement. Movement. That's why they get open threes versus you don't get none of that.

They're moving. They're all running around. You're chasing him over here. He went there. He done gave him the signal to come back this way. There's rotation and movement. This one-on-one, I got the ball, and I'm going to sit here and poof, poof, poof. You ain't leaving your guy. You're just sitting there.

That's more of Houston. Right? I'm just like, you know, you're just one-on-one style. You got to contain. So when he passes out, this man don't have no wide open shot. He's taking technically a contested shot every single time down the floor because you don't have any structure and movement for your shooters. Your shooters are sitting there just flat.

Y'all don't remember Cal Corvert? Yeah. Cal Corvert was a corner shooter, but he came off pinned down. Fast fuck. Deep. So you just couldn't sit and just wait ever and play safety because you had to fight him over the thing. And if you sit down here, you were fucked.

Dead. He was coming off that mother. Shooting at you immediately. Because they ran a play for him. They run plays for him. Yeah, immediately. Because if Cal in the game, you ain't running no play form, you're useless.

What the fuck is you doing out here, bro? Give us something. So, you talked about the Warriors. Let's talk a little bit about Draymond Green. So, we got to go back

to game two. Draymond picked up his fifth tech of the postseason on this play. Let's take a look at the highlight. So, Nas Reed

gets whistled for the foul. Draymond flails his arm out, makes contact with Reed's face, sent him to the ground. Play was reviewed. Draymond was given a technical foul. As a result of the review, naturally, Draymond wasn't happy with the call. Proceeded to give the ref an earful. As Wolfman called for him to be ejected. That's BS. You know that's BS. This fan particularly incensed.

You can't do that. The crazy thing is I don't think Golden State took 63s like that. No. Steph trying to calm Draymond down. You pointed out Draymond tendency to crash out with Steph Curry. Not available to play in the game. And I already know what...

And then there was also another situation. We cut out of this video. During the fourth quarter of game two, fan caught in exchange with Draymond and a Wolves fan. We pull that clip up with the guard with the fan reportedly hurling a racial slur.

Get him Draymond. . Look at Yusa. After the game, Draymond had this to say about his perception in the league. I look like the angry black man. I'm not an angry black man. I'm a very successful, educated black man with a great family. And I'm great at basketball. I'm great at what I do.

The agenda to try to keep making me look like an angry black man is crazy. I'm sick of it. It's ridiculous. The agenda to make you look like an angry black man is crazy. Sick of it. ridiculous. The agenda to make it look like Angry Black Mountain crazy. Sick of it is ridiculous for context. In his nine postseason games at that point, Dre had already amassed five texts, two flagrant fouls.

Do you understand Dre Mount's frustration with being viewed as an angry black man or is that perception justified? Angry, I mean, two things can be true. Yeah. You can be an educator, you can be all those things, and you can still be angry. He appears happy when he's angry. But I don't think it had anything to do with his skin color.

I don't know what the fan said. I think his emotions was because of the interaction with the fan. But I don't think there's an agenda out there that people are targeting him as that. And I spoke about this before. But he's got to learn how to keep his emotions in check, man. They put you in the angry category because you show anger on the court

quite a bit. The technicals and the flagrants say that. And a lot of them, they try to keep him on the floor. So we saw him going at the rest. He has a longer leash than most people out there. Absolutely. We have gotten texts for a lot less. According to reports, obviously other teams are a little frustrated

that he's able to have that long rope, able to do these things to the ref without much retribution. They try their best to keep him in the game. I think you've got to stop playing into it, too. I mean, I think it is a target. I mean, if you know somebody that was targeting Russ, if you keep playing into it and keep showing emotions into it, too. I mean, I think it is a target. I mean, if you know somebody, like it was targeting Russ. Like, you know, if you keep playing into it and keep showing emotions to it,

I'm going to keep bothering you. Because obviously it's getting you off your game, so I just think now, like, I don't think he's no angry black man or nothing like that. Like, you know, he is great at basketball, but I just think a lot of the stuff he lets get to him, and you know, he plays into all the bullshit, and I don't think he needs to yeah, cuz they're not targeting him

Yeah, the referees. I think he's thinking the referees are the fans. Well teams fans refs I mean they all go I mean if you keep playing into it, all right, but that now is replay just as an example I don't think he's being targeted on that that particular plan I don't know if there's a need to flail the arms out with the – I mean, we've seen Matthew get tossed out. Yeah, for the little – For the judo. Come on, bro.

But that wasn't even – This is the playoffs. That should have been a flagrant one. That was Hunter being a little punk, bro. And Hunter retaliated with the push. But why would you even have to even – All that. Like, bro, chill, bro.

You could have got – Box him out hard, chill, bro. Just get him. Box him out hard or something, bro. You ain't got to. Y'all tripping. I don't think you should have been tossed for that. I thought it should have been either technical or flagrant one. Keep it moving. It's the playoffs. It was a, obviously it wasn't a very clean play, but it wasn't the dirtiest of plays. Yeah. They tried to call it a punch, which I thought was... If it was Draymond, they would have kept him in the game.

For sure. I mean, they love what he brings to the table. His emotions make him a great player, but he doesn't know how to reel it in and how to keep him under control a lot of times. This has been consistent during his 13th season in the league, but like you said, he has a very long rope in the ability to do this. Yeah, that's Tony Brothers, man. Tony Brothers was kicking him out.

He's the judge, jury? No, no, no. Your team getting their ass whooped. I'm not letting you go back to the goddamn locker room and just pretend you ain't getting it. No, you're going to get your ass whooped just like they are so you're not getting kicked out of the game. I don't give a fuck what you call me at this point.

Stay in. Keep getting that ass whooped. I heard that I was next to him, Tony Brothers, when somebody was trying to get kicked out the game Cuz they're like no no no no you're gonna take the ass whooping With your team, you're not just gonna sit in the back and take a shower and watch it on your phone eat food No, no, no, no

Take this ass with me like a man So the cats and that sometimes when when you have somebody like Tony Brothers. It's like he understands what the player's trying to do. He's trying to like, this motherfucker right there. We can ask for 1730. He knows we got underdog pickings we need to hit. You know what I mean? But I don't think he's an angry black man.

He's an angry basketball player when he's not happy. Right. But do we think he's angry when he's doing that stuff? No, that shit looks funny. You don't think like i listen but why are you so there's not one hit that he thought it was a real hit he's argued every single one of these motherfuckers just oh what i do like so i don't what i do i he plays with aggression, and it's only in this form. This is not his personality when he's off the court. He's a fun dude off the court.

He has fun. He enjoys his game. He doesn't get in trouble. This is not some guy who's, you know, you're seeing him at the mall, and he's sitting there fighting with kids. This is his basketball persona. This is how he plays this game, right right he doesn't know how to turn it off when he get inside those lines or in practice so you know he's the antics guy you know and this

plays to all of it and this I don't really think he can control it because if you look at the plays it's never actually during a time of anything being serious. It's these off the wall, you tip the ball, and he done lost the ball, and he's going to throw it. Like if you hit the ball from the back and he knows you're coming, he's going to do one of these, right? He got the ball, and you're about to push him out of bounds. You're about to push him out of bounds, and he flings his arm back.

It's always some dumb, it's always a dumbass play. But you know what you're doing. And it's just like, no. Because if you think about it, he's dribbling and then someone tips it and oh shit! Nobody's doing that though. Who does? Nobody's ever done that. Most people think professional athletes

can control their body a little better. No, he's clumsy. So y'all don't know nobody like this? Y'all mean to tell me y'all ain't never hooped? The extra flailer has to be... You ain't never hooped with no flailer. Football players? Football players all the time. So no hoopers.

You never hooped with a hooper who flails. Yeah, but... Like Draymond. Not to flail to hit you in the face. Is it an over-exaggerated flail? To flail to hit you, yes. If you're in my way... Reggie Evans was like that.

Dante Jones was like that. Dante Jones was like that. Fucking Bruce Bowen was like that. Bruce Bowen was like that. Roger Bell was like that. But Jones was like that. Fucking Bruce Bowen was like that. Bruce Bowen was like that. Roger Bell was like that. And he might bust your whole fucking face and not say sorry, bro.

He felt that shit. That shit hurt him more than it hurt me. He's going in the locker room like, damn, that shit hurt. He might bust your face. Like, if I'm going to compare how he uses his body, it was more Reggie Evans style, but Reggie Evans was really

more in control of it. His was like, he knew you coming, and it's like, boom, right? Reggie will give you a knee to the thigh and help you up, bro. My bad, my bad, bro.

But do you feel he was intentional? No, he is very intentional. He's looking at you. He might even wink at you while he's pulling you up. Like, yeah, it's going to hurt in the morning. But sometimes you can see Reggie's coming. Draymond, you. People are missing Draymond.

I don't even think he knows some of the times. It's like Steve Courage just hit it with the button. He did a spinning right hook. Oh, shit, about to lose the ball. Hit it. Y'all got to know what it with the button. He did a spinning right hook. Oh shit, about to lose the ball. Hit it. Y'all got to know what it is though. He did a spinning right hook to Nergis.

That was crazy. If you play with a flailer. To spin and flail with a right hook? A flailer. If you play with a flailer, you know for a fact that a flailer

is a motherfucker that's going to do whatever he can to compensate for what he cannot do. Uh-huh. Yeah. So, Draymond had his best years when they was playing their best ball.

He was athletic. He was mobile. He could guard one through five. But time is over. That time is over. We don't see none of them numbers. We got to now justify why we even keep you on the floor There's a player to your no we understand but they'll be doing this thing he's still undersized too

Right. So we still got a compensate for the little things. Draymond is not a five man. He's a four So he playing out of position is getting him in a place where he has to show these other guys That's in the league Sabonis and goon amen y'all gonna respect me he has old school mentality and it ain't so much his his behavior and how he thinks and his emotions it's survival he's trying to survive this is his only survival mechanism is respect and if i gotta hit you in your mouth for some respect y'all little young motherfuckers ain't going to keep crossing this line like y'all going to disrespect me. And that's why he's, I'm a strong brother. It's just anxiety. Yeah, but who be disrespecting him?

Like far as like those bigs that you're saying. Whoever talks shit to him. I don't think a lot of guys talk shit to him. He might be feeling you. He might have heard you say something and your mouth wasn't moving. Might have just waited until you looked. What'd you say? Jordan Poo didn't say a goddamn thing.

That motherfucker blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Nah, he said something. He had to free-throw him. What'd you say? Huh? Nothing. Like, dude, when the program. I heard what you said about my mama.

Oh, yeah. The last thing you want to do, though, is be down when Draymond's in the game. You don't want to be up. I mean, you don't want to be up when Draymond's in the game. You got to start looking at the clock like, all right, we have 17. Draymond's still here. Hey, man,

watch your face. Watch it. He's still in the game. He's still in the game, man. You got to wear your McDavid. You got to wear rib pads, elbow, knee pads. You got to just like, it's 1964. It's about that time.

You about to hit somebody. You about to whine. That motherfucker's a jack-in-the-box. Ding, ding, ding. Every time you go down the court, ding, ding, ding. Bitch! With no Steph in the game to help. No, it was worse when there was still Steph.

That's what I'm saying. Because then it's all his basketball. It's just ugly basketball. You see what happened with the Nas shit, right? He hit Nas, nobody moved. Yeah. Everybody stood still. Mm-hmm.

Like, you see what happened to Rudy last time. Nobody fucking moved. I will choke another motherfucker here. Don't nobody fucking move. I will choke another motherfucker in here. Don't you move a beat. It only happens

when they lose. Yeah. Like it just is. What does that say? I don't know. He don't like losing. What do you call that?

Sort of loser. Oh yeah, for sure. I feel like he cost them a game or two in the Houston series. They weren't down a lot in the Houston series when they lost those games.

Yeah, that's, yeah. The antics kicking back of the head in Houston. That was crazy. It's like, they weren't really losing like that. They probably could have won the game if they didn't. They could have came back. I think because he's gotten so much rope and they understand it's his personality that he

doesn't know when too much is too much. Because most of his texts are always the dumb shit. It's never... I don't even know if he's ever gotten a smart technique. It's always at the worst time.

It's the worst time. What are you doing? Why did you do that? We need answers, though. I need answers. We up seven. What you doing? And then Klay gets mad.

He's like, come on, Dre. God damn, we need you. Just me and him. Just be over there with us. Just be over there with us. Technically, it might be smart. Some of his shit might be smart because most of the time he's losing the ball and is getting away from

something and it's like the open court foul. Loose ball. The loose ball open court foul. That take foul. It ain't usually no take foul. It's just a technical. Thanks. Thanks. But he's not angry. I mean, I wouldn't label him.

He's angry. He just plays the basketball. Very passionate player. He's just a... He's just a... No, he's what we call therapy resistant. Understand what to do. I'm not angry.

Stop telling me to go to fucking therapy, though. I'm not going to go. There's nothing wrong with me. Why are you angry? I'm not angry stop telling me to go to fucking therapy though I'm not going to go there's nothing wrong with me why are you angry I'm not angry

ask me one more time ask me one more time alright well let's keep this thing moving so we got the Larry O'Brien trophy here Danny like we mentioned you've won three of these things in your career. But today, a special day in the history of your career and the Raptors as well. Today, sixth anniversary of Kawhi's legendary game winner.

Ah, okay. In game. Did you not know that? I did not know. Y'all don't have a function to celebrate? No, we don't have a function. Sixth anniversary of Kawhi's legendary game winner. Game seven, the Eastern Semis to lift the Raptors over the Sixers. Let's take a look at the video.

Go back down memory lane if we can. Looking at this moment. Boom. Ooh. That's a wild-ass shot. Ooh. Boom. This time, Boom. Just time man. Oh man. And that's how long it took in the arena. In the arena it felt that fucking long.

So what do you remember from that moment and that championship run with the Raptors? The whole run? Or just that moment in particular? I mean that moment, because if we went into overtime, it might have been curtains for us. They had a lot of momentum. I remember when he took the shot. I don't even know if that was the play.

I don't think we ran it, executed it the right way. When he took the shot, I was like, oh, shit, this is not a good shot. And I thought we were going to go into overtime. But it caught the rim, and it bounced. I was like, and each bounce, it had a chance. But when he originally took the shot, I thought it was a bad shot. And he was going to miss it. When he made that shit, though, it changed everything.

But I remember a lot during that run. I remember Fred having his baby, and he went off crazy in Milwaukee Series and Golden State Series. I remember K-Lo playing extremely well in the Golden State series. I remember Kalo playing extremely well in the Golden State series. I think he had lost his grandmother. It was Pascal's coming out season. He just had an unbelievable season and playoffs against Golden State. A lot of variables came into play. It was Nick Nurse's first season. We tried a lot of different weird shit. We played a triangle or two we had never done throughout the whole year. We played a box at one at one point.

We doubled everybody in Milwaukee even when Kawhi was guarding Chris Middleton on Malone's spot. He was throwing different things in the mix. I remember just having to adjust

and learn a lot of shit on the fly. But ultimately certain guys stepping up and everybody had a moment at different times be honest did it feel like like i mean once you got to this point this shot and get into the championship the idea of we could win kicks in then but starting to play off did y'all have we can win a championship in mind when we got there in the beginning of the season i thought

we had a shot to come out the east but when a championship was not We're going state with having Katie. Mm-hmm It wasn't like a thing like But if you've ever been to the finals, it's like you just gotta get there you just never know what's gonna happen and because most teams aren't 100% healthy when you get there and Anybody can get hot when you get there and Tony told me that actually my first finals End up actually being me being one of the guys can get hot when you get there. And Tony told me that actually my first finals ended up actually being me being one of the guys to get hot in the first finals. He was like, because we weren't supposed to beat Miami. He was like, we're underdogs.

He was like, you just got to get there. You just never know what's going to happen. If somebody get hot. And we actually had a chance to win in 2013 even though we lost. But I was like, if we get there, we might have an opportunity. But I knew we could come out the East once we had the group that we had. Especially when we got Marc Gasol at the trade deadline. Yeah, that was a big pickup. How good was Kawhi Leonard? That run?

Yeah. Yeah, no, he was... I seen him when he was... I seen him, the growth. And nobody predicted that, bro. From what he started out as to what he became, I'd never seen it coming. But his efficiency, man, and what he could do, not just on offense, but both sides of the ball. He was doing it on one knee. His knee was not good. That Milwaukee

series really solidified it for me. Like, oh, he's having an unbelievable run. Because we were down 0-2. And he don don't never get shook or he's just the same person he's like all right like more he's like what Kawhi where we go from here he goes back to Toronto for game three like you know what I'm saying so everybody else kind of just followed suit and then we went we went four straight so so there's a lot of narratives about Kawhi uh that we hear from the outside world but as a former, just what's it like being with him as a teammate? What's his work ethic like? And then also just dealing with the knee injuries and the injuries throughout his career,

but still trying to play at a high level. He puts in the work. And a lot of times you don't, some guys won't see it because he's there early, he's there late. But you can tell he puts in the work. There's a lot of other guys I've been around that are just talented and don't put the work in. But he's one of those guys that puts the work in. And it's just unfortunate to see because he could have been one of the best two-way players, one of the best players to ever lace him up.

And I still think he is in the conversation top 75. But if he had those injuries, he probably could have won one or two more. He probably could have gotten MVP on one of those years But yeah He was said I've seen him when he was yet when he first got into the league to what he became he because he couldn't Shoot when he first came in, you know serious not well, you know It was more of a mid-range like they had to reconstruct his shot a lot. He was more of a defensive They thought it brought him in to be Bruce bone. Mm-hmm

He had the he had shoulders, he had arms, he had the hands, and they were like, oh, he can be our defensive stopper. And they traded George Hill for him, which, they loved George. I was like, we're trading George for him. I'm like, okay, they must see something. They came in, I didn't see the offensive repertoire like that, but he worked on his shot every day.

Started in close, free the line, and he expanded, became a 40% three-point shooter, took his time. Obviously his mid range 99, but once he extended it to three and went from fourth quarter to give Tony the ball to Tony give him the fucking ball. And it happened real fast. And I was like, oh shit, this is what we're doing now? Tony's not fourth quarter angle.

It was Kawhi, I was like, oh, shit. Give Kawhi the ball. Happened that fast. Okay, I'm moving forward. If your ass can't shoot, I'm just going to stare at you. I'm sorry. I mean, because the fact that when I look at his shot and I call him a

pure shooter. He's done had this shit since he was little type of shot, But the fact that he created it as an NBA player really means... That's why we couldn't see it coming. Because it's rare. You don't see people change a shot and become a good shooter. You either have touch or you don't. You can shoot or you can't.

You usually don't develop that as an adult. He developed that, even though he wasn't a full adult, but like 2020 he restructured his shot, changed it, and became a really good shooter. Before that, it was like more mid-range, more like floaters, layups, hook shots. But three-point shot, he wasn't one of those guys. But he developed that.

Would you say he's a top-five player in this era? In this era? In his era. In his era? If he was healthy, yeah, but it's hard to put him in that conversation because of the last two playoffs, postseasons, he's not been able to be active. He's missed a lot of postseasons. But talent-wise, for sure.

He's up there in the top five. Let's get back to this postseason. Okay, before that. It this postseason before that it is postseason since you were on the team that won this can you can you tell because it's always coming from people who wasn't there

how hard was the bubble the bubble was a pain in the ass man it was a nice setup I give a lot of credit to the NBA for giving us a nice resort, everything, food and all that. But even if you're eating the best food in the world, if you eat it every day for

100 days, you're going to be tired of that shit. But the walls just start closing in on you. You're in the same hotel room, same resort, eating the same food, guys trying to do the golf court, doing the same golf courses. We were there for like 98, 99 days. First two months without family, no wives, no girlfriends.

It was just more mentally and emotionally taxing. And physically, because I feel like they have some rest days. I feel like they have more rest days now. But then I think we're the only sport that kind of started back up, and it was like every other day we had the training, which was a plus 24 hour trainings training room So you have access to getting your treatment? But it was just taxing physically mentally emotionally

It was a pain in the ass. So would you consider that that that championship run easy? Nah, I was my it was the hardest one for me about for sure by by far. Like, none of them were easy, but that one was the most challenging. Definitely the most challenging. Because even when I hear about the bubble, all the players that were there say it was the hardest thing to do because now you take away family, you take away friends, you take away all the things that make you comfortable. Yeah, small things you don't realize.

You ain't driving for three months. You don't have any chance to get fresh air. You come back home, oh shit, I haven't driven a car in three months. Mind you, they're testing you. Back then they tested you. They scrambled your brain. That was in the nose back in the day. Every day, twice a day.

Just getting random food spots you wanted. Just small things that you miss that you don't realize you're not having access to. And the biggest thing for me is I'm used to playing in front of fans. Like, I feed off the fan energy. There ain't no fans there. I'm like, we fucking, they got the noise through the, it ain't the same. And that was adjustment for a lot of guys. Some guys are comfortable playing in quiet gyms or LA Fitness, and they excel. But I also think that's the reason why teams could come back down 3-1

and win in the bubble because they're in a home court advantage there. So it made it... Some people's easier, some people's harder. If you look at before y'all won, everybody was Clipper, Clipper, Clipper, Clipper. It was Clippers going to win

the championship and then when they lost it became, oh, this is too easy. Whoever wins is going to be easy. I mean, anybody that's a Bron fan or not a Bron fan or not a Lakers fan, they're going to hate on it, of course. But I feel like if it was in a natural environment, then we might have gotten that Lakers-Clippers series in the Western Conference Finals matchup. That would have been. And they was, honestly, they got the best of us most of the year, throughout the year. But I think in the playoffs, once the game slowed down, we had so many pieces, we had

a lot of depth. I think we would have gotten them. Yeah, I thought so. We'll never know, right? They were a really good team, though. If it was in a bubble, then it favored the Clippers a little bit because the Laker fandom can't take over the building. Now, everybody has fans.

If it's here in Los Angeles playing in the crypto, the Clipper gym is going to be just seven Laker home games. So that's why I think once it went to the bubble, everybody was on the Clipper tail. And then when they lost, it was all, OK, this sucks. Yeah. I mean, they had a lot of guys leave the bubble for other reasons and I'm not discrediting that but they all had family issues and once we saw that we were like, ah, yeah, they're not

going to get into chemistry and they're not locked in like that. That's crazy. They had to be locked in. I think Trez left. I think Lou left. Pat left. I think Kawhi came in late. They had a lot of different things going on. And there was a moment we said, they was thinking about shutting it down.

We almost left. I don't know what was happening, but Milwaukee didn't play one game. We had a meeting. It was just a random, oh, we're not playing tonight. Oh, shit, okay. Reschedule the game.

And then at that point, guys were thinking about leaving too. And then obviously everybody looked at Bron. Like, if Bron's leaving, this shit is not working. Like, it's going to shut down. So they're all looking at the Lakers like, what y'all going to do? Because we ultimately made the decision of if it was going to keep going or not, in their minds. Because if we left, then

Clippers ain't staying. Like, nobody else is staying. That's how I knew, man. It was for Hoopers. It was for Hoopers, man. If it was for Hoopers, then you was locked in. It's like NBA camp. Yeah, for Hoopers, man. It was for Hoopers. Then you was locked in. It's like NBA camp. Yeah, that's how much of it it is. That's why when someone said it, like, it's a bubble.

And I'm like, well, I don't count. It don't count? That's why. Because you can't focus? Is this NBA? Yeah, it's a fucking deadly virus in the fucking air. What the fuck are you talking about? I might die.

In there? Anywhere, nigga. Around that time, everybody was scared of dying. The only people that wasn't going to die was NBA players that was in that bubble. They was good. Like, y'all was good. Everybody else. Everybody else.

Everybody else. So think about what he just said. All those players was leaving to go check on their families, my nigga. Y'all rich. Stay asses in the house. All right. This is what we're doing. But he said it was the hardest championship for him.

So that's why I said I wanted him instead in speaking because he was there. He won. Somebody got to win, right? As a hooper, though? But as a hooper, you wouldn't want to play? As a hooper. I wouldn't want to play in what? In that bubble? In that bubble?

That's all? That's just who? You going to ask him? I'm not trying to. As if the Knicks. I remember, wasn't Julius in there like, hell yeah. I love you. You're not going to catch nothing.

Yeah, Rudy did the shit, man. Rudy started it. But what I'm saying, though, in the bubble, though, you're not going to. Don't touch me, nigga. I'm saying, though, in the bubble, you're not going to catch nothing. You're just hooping every day. Matter of fact, talk that way, bro. It's the best hoop ever, dog.

Stop saying I asked because LeBron. I asked because I'm a Laker fan. Thank you. I'm a Laker fan. When LeBron leave, I would never say the nigga name again because it would be Luka. I don't know where y'all get this from. I didn't say his name before he got here. I won't say it after.

It's going to be fucking Luka. He's already ranked top four for me. I'm sorry. Magic and Shaq, you got to move around. LeBron would be a Laker great, but Dan Crosby or Disney. Magic and who? Magic and Shaq got to move to five and six

because Luka's four already. That's crazy. If Giannis comes, Giannis is four. For sure, Giannis might be three. Cole go back to two. Giannis goes to three. Luka, then probably Bra.

My shit is movable, baby. My shit is movable. I'm not stuck. As a Laker fan, that's nasty. Soon as you put a Laker uniform up, your shit just heightens. Steph, KD, come on. Oh, shit.

Oh, shit. Oh, shit. My top ten, I think I got eight Lakers. Jordan's one, and then Tim is somewhere around there. He's floating. He's a floater. He's just floating around. Number one pick ever. Who? Tim eight, nine. Number one pick ever. Who?

Tim Duncan, the greatest number one pick ever. LeBron. Tim Duncan. Tim Duncan, the greatest number one pick ever. He got five of them, don't he? No, just go look at everything. He got five of them? Yeah.

He got five of them, don't he? LeBron. He got five. LeBron is there, right? Pop drafted him. I mean, yeah. Well, okay, hold on. Defense and all that.

When it comes to, like, if he's – Well, okay, hold on. Defense and all that. When it comes to – like, if we're just going to say just accolades and you start factoring teammates and stuff, then okay. Then I can give you that. When it comes to your teammates also and who you played with and who you played against, then Tim Duncan should be top, top four, top five of all time.

No, for sure. Because when you talk about Magic, Magic got drafted with the number one player in the world on his team. You got to remember, before Jordan became the number, the GOAT,

Kareem was the GOAT priming. I think Kareem was the MVP of the league when Magic got drafted there. A little older, but yeah. So then you have him, you have, then you get James Worthy. You're coming into a dynasty already.

So the fact that Tim's shit was created from Yeah. From the ground up I mean I just threw it out there so I don't know why people feel I mean he came in with David Robinson but from there once they got rid of that I say ground no he didn't got me no ground but when they left from the ground we had to build from it and it, Tony Parker was a Second round player around it was two picks before me was 28 29 1999 right the lockout year

The locker yeah, they won that but I'm saying 2001 when David Robinson all the vets left Ginobili was the second round pick and Tony Parker was a late late first round that speaks a lot about pop Pop after the piece a lot about Kobe and Shaq. No round. That speaks a lot about Pop. That speaks a lot about Kobe and Shaq. That speaks a lot about... Pop drafted the greatest number one player ever. That wasn't his pick, right? That wasn't Pop. But no.

They have great scouting. Unless you try. No, but when it comes to scouting, Spurs pick some amazing pieces that fit exactly what they're trying to do. I mean, they have the perfect specialists for their squads. Even when you think about some of the people that got there and left, those were some pretty fucking great pieces that they picked up. Boris Diaw, Matt Bonner. Even the new age guys. Derek White was there, John T. Murray was there.

John T. Murray. Who was it? You said George Hill came in? Derek White. George Hill came in. Derek White, George Hill. You said drafted? They're picking basketball players. Is it Steven Jackson? Yeah. They got basketball players, like guys who know basketball.

Well, they have functions that they use for players. What function do you have for our system? Yeah, they're looking for something. This is our system not moving. We're not changing our system. We're only going to change the functions. Can you do this, Will? No?

You can't be over here. You can go to that team. We need Danny Green over here that can shoot that shot right there because that shot is going to be the shot he's going to get. No, I don't want Danny in that place. That's his spot. You go over there. You shoot that shot.

You shoot that shot. You shoot that shot. Don't let me catch you in them spots. Don't you be in the wrong spot. Even Blair was good. Hell yeah. Dwan, yeah. Hell yeah.

He had no ACLs. Yeah, he played without them. That motherfucker was good. I'm like, I am. It's all right. Peace. So, Danny, you want to chip with the Spurs? Castle.

Castle. Greg Popovich announces retirement coaching after 29 seasons with the Spurs. So, on this show, we talk a lot about heat culture, but we got to give the Spurs some love. What is Spurs culture, and what are the major ingredients to help that franchise sustain at such a high level for so many years? I mean, exactly what they've been talking about. They let you play to your strengths.

They're going to maximize you to the fullest. Pop knows how to get the best. And they draft more so certain types of humans first, like guys without egos. And that's why they find guys overseas or different countries, because they understand the game is bigger than them. They don't handle guys with egos. You guys mentioned Steven Jackson. He was there, but he didn't stay long, both stints. Jack was a great player, but he also had issues when it came to his personality and bumped heads with pops at moments. But they did a great job instead of finding you Tiago Splitter, Boris Diaw, they got Patty Mills. There's a bunch of guys

from different parts of the world that just understood their role and they made you understand your role and what you were good at. I'm going to emphasize that. We don't need you cutting or need you in the dunker area. We need you out here. You can shoot, pull up, transition threes. You can't. Because the numbers say you're good. Mind you, he wasn't even a...

He adapted and adjusted to the three ball, but he was not a fan of shooting the three ball. Pop was definitely an old school type of guy. He wanted to throw it in the post, traditional two bigs, four and a five. He knew he had to adapt to it to win. Golden State and Houston, those teams were up and coming, and they shot a lot of them.

But he was more of an old school type of guy. But he's disciplinary, very militant. Come in, you do your job, and you know what's expected. You don't let your teammates down, you don't let your coaches down. But he knew how to manage

egos, and he was good at getting the most and the best out of people. He knew how to approach this person, how to approach the Kawhi. Some guys can take criticism a certain way, some guys can't. He knew the person to all of them? He knew every person, every player. How did he approach you?

Not so gentle, I would say. I was one of the guys that I probably got, me and Tony, probably got the most of it. But he knew we could, you know, we knew how to handle it. He was like, all right, he knew what players would play better mad. If I can get you angry, I know I'll get the most out of you. You know what I'm saying? So he'll push those buttons.

Some guys don't play that well. You know what it's like? It's always a chess game. He'll fucking cuss you out today, bench you, because he knows we're playing so-and-so in two games and I need you locked in for that game. I knew it. I'm going to put you in the doghouse for a couple games. You're going to come out hot.

I knew he had that stepdad energy. He got that stepdad energy. It's cool. Come here. What you doing? When you're young. When you're older, you're like, yo, we don't have to do this. You know what I'm saying? We don't have to do this. Bring me that damn beer, boy.

But that's exactly how it was. Miller High Life. Miller High Life. Man. Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure. Last time we was talking about it, I popped. It got popping up.

I saw it. I'm glad. I'm glad. I keep looking out for my shoulders. I mean, they did start talking over there a little bit. I was like, I love it. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I mean, they did start talking over there a little bit.

I was like, I'm just kidding. Kid and shit. Kid and shit. Don't do the kid. I ended up looking over my shoulder to make sure we were... Hey man, play the bike shit. Play the bike shit. He coming.

He in there. Last one. This kid thinking I was talking about two dark niggas over there. We didn't make it through the show. We had to leave early. As soon as you put the pop in, I'm over there looking like,

oh shit, Paulo gone. Him downstairs. He didn't bring a pop. All right, well let's move on to Mostly Fans. Presented by Underdog.

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What? We're not only fans. We got mostly fans. Mostly fans. Okay. I respect the hustle. They still be paying. We'll do some strange for a little piece of change.

That's what's up, man. I didn't know that was a thing. Dan, you're first time in the arena. Always welcome back in here. Thank you for bringing the Larry O'Brien trophy with you as well. This is dope. This is dope, man. I want to take a picture with it because this is a close thing.

I'm getting to a championship. I ain't even going to lie. I'm going to put the gloves on. No glove, no love, Gil. No glove, no love. So we got a question from Underdog user Zoic. Where will KD land this summer? Mr. B, you said something earlier in the show.

I don't know if people picked up on it. Who? KD. Kevin Wayne Durant. I hope he land on the good foot. Nigga been on the bad foot for a while. Land on that motherfucker. Like who was going to go after him? Angel Friend Group.

Angel Friend Group. Miami? Miami? I keep hearing, I mean. Fucker. Like who was going to go after him? In your friend group. Miami? I keep hearing, I mean, I keep hearing Houston because they got all the pieces. Yeah. And I hear OKC because they got a lot of pieces over there. I don't know. I got to watch the draft. I think this year's draft

is very important to a lot of teams cause you got a lot of I think he's stuck in Phoenix man for another year at least till deadline after the deadline

maybe Houston or OKC I think he wants to get back to OKC I think something makes him like he wants to get back there

again they're a good team they're a good team again. Well, okay see yeah, so I mean yes, I mean Andy can retire there. Yeah Again, I'm just saying Who else on the move everybody on the move? Yeah, maybe you got some you got it by y'all. That's why yo kitsch again. So I can see yo kiss in Boston. I Don't know if they let him go. Oh, yeah. I don't give a fuck. But if they do,

they're going to take everything Boston got. There's certain people, man. If you're the organization, I don't give a fuck what you're trying to. You can come in here and, hey, yeah,

I'm thinking about a trade. Hey, what did they give? I'm looking for one in LA. You better keep thinking. What did Denver give, what did they give New York? Who? Denver.

From Mello? From Mello. Hot cheese steak? I don't know. What the fuck? Gallinari, Chandler. Gallinari, Chandler. Who else?

Wait, was that it? It was just them two. No. That was Mello. Listen, them Europeans, they're one of them big picks. What's up, Mello, Gallinari? What's up, Chandler? Yeah.

What's up, Chandler, Gallinari? That's decent. From Mello? Yeah, I don't know. Decent. Jokic, three-time MVP. Pr For Melo? Yeah, I don't know. Decent. Yoka's three-time MVP. Pritchard. I mean, I just feel like the Europeans, they're the best players in the league,

so they're going to need some of this big market. They're going to have to start marketing the European players. I mean, I know you guys keep looking for a face at the NBA, but it's like. There's only one person that's marketable. The Europeans is just. Only Giannis is marketable. Everyone else is stoic. He's just watching paint dry.

Giannis want to beat up daddies in the crowd. It makes him more marketable. Nah, he didn't want to beat them up. Nah, nah, nah. Nah, man, we just had... They just had a grown man conversation. That was the only person that Giannis or that could have went up...

Like, Giannis was the perfect... If he went to Draymond Green, he about got closed down. In doing this? Draymond would have been like, like, Giannis was the perfect. If he went to Draymond Green, he about got closed on. In doing this? Draymond would have been like, what'd you say, huh? Who called my name? That's a fact. Oh, real slick, like, too.

Knock him out. Like, Giannis is the only person that'll sit there and have that conversation. Even if it's a rough conversation, Knock him out. Like, Giannis is the only person that'll sit there and have that conversation. Even if it's a rough conversation, Giannis is the only person that will sit there and dialogue with him and then say, I love you at the end. Right? So, you know, it could have went south, but because it was Giannis. Irrespectful. He's a great dude. And, you know, I would love to have him here in the Laker organization.

Very prudent decision for you, Giannis. Great brick food. We got LeBron James. We got Bronny James. Luca. We got Austin Reeves. Y'all would love him in Milwaukee. You were mentioning.

He just lost his lemon daddy to Dalton Connect. You can have Dalton Connect. You can have him too. This is going to be three can have Dalton Connect. You can have him, too. Listen, there's going to be three players on the Lakers team this summer. J.J. Riddick, Luka, Bronny, and Bron. What I'm saying is I don't mind personally. I don't mind Giannis. I don't mind.

You need a big three. I don't mind. You need a big three. Luka. And Bronny. And Giannis. I don't like Giannis. a big three. Luka and Brunny. And Giannis. I don't like Giannis. The third best player of all time and the fourth best player of all time on the same team. It's the

same thing with Blaine Day. Who don't play defense? You ain't hearing what he's saying. He's saying Bron is up for it. He's saying Bron and Bron are up. Yeah, he's a Bron fan. But Gil, you're just doing this to antagonize me. I don't know why. I don't know why. I don't know why.

I got to look out for the. I did about five playbacks with you last week. When LeBron retires, I still got to live here. Okay, so. We building Bronny. All right. The Bronny era. You got Rory, you got Austin.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody can go. Everybody can. They have to go. Everybody has to. Do one of these if you're talking about Giannis if you're smart

you're only looking at a few teams you're going to be looking at Houston and you're going to be looking at OKC OKC got some pieces that they can't afford you can't afford your team because you got four people up at the same time. Why would he go back down?

Why would he go to a small market again? Who? Giannis? Giannis is going to Miami. But he don't have a trade call, so I don't give a fuck what he's talking about. Fuck no. Because if I'm going to trade, I'm going to trade him away from here. Listen, if you're Milwaukee, if you're going to trade Giannis, send him somewhere respectfully.

Like everything he did for that city, 50 years. You don't got to do shit. Send him to Utah. I don't have to do shit. Send him to Utah. I don't have to do shit. Okay, all right. Watch the bad karma. Let's just, like, tell him, my girl, like, yeah, let's go ahead and split it 50-50,

so you're going to share it with another nigga. No, thank you. No, thank you. Listen, send him. Respectfully. Respectfully, you got to. You are my enemy right now. Respectfully, you got to.

No, you're my enemy. It's been 50 years. When we break up, you're my enemy. 50 years. We are not friends. It ain't no enemy. 50 years. You can do both.

You can respond. I could. But you got to find pieces that make sense for you to get back together. And the only pieces that fit is you can give me Chet back, right? You can give me one of the... I don't need Caruso. I don't need Ballhead Tiff. Okay, see, you're going to go back to another small market.

That's you. I'm trading him. I'm going to trade him. Laker, great. Alex Caruso. I don't need ball-headed tennis players. You're going to go back to another small market? Like, that's you. I'm trading him. I'm going to trade him. Laker, great. Alex Caruso. Makes me. Like, I'm going for Houston. You got some pieces in Houston that you don't need once Giannis gets there.

OKC has pieces and picks. They have a lot. But Houston got, like, you got two, four. You got them four, them Easton. And you got the Jabari. And you got, you got, you got them two bitch guys. You got Reeshan, Whitmore. You got Shepard and Cam.

Give me both of them. Give me all four of them. And I give you Giannis. Man, listen, man. And I'll throw in Kuzma. Throw in Kuzma. His wife and Beyonce. That's a good marketing team.

Who did you want? Who you want? Hold on. Say it again. Easton, Jabari. So Jabari, Jabari Smith. Shepard and Cam Whitmore. Them four?

Yeah. For who? Giannis. For Giannis. That's a championship. I need about five first rounds. That's a championship. You keeping Sangoon.

You keeping Jalen Green. You keeping Fred VanVleet. Depends on how Jalen Green comes back. Nah, Fred is free agent. Team option. Every time. You can get him back. Team option.

You get him back for sure. No, no, no. Me? You got Giannis, Sangoon, and Steven Adams. It's a team option for Fred. Fred. Yeah, they're going to let that go. For 40?

Depends on how Jalen Green comes back, though. They might renegotiate to make it cheaper for an extension. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I'm not. If you keep Thompson. Yeah, 45. I got to call this.

I got to talk. No, you didn't say Thompson. No, no, no. Jalen Green might I'm saying? Yeah, I'm not. If you keep Thompson. Yeah, 45. I got to call this. I got to talk. No, you didn't say Thompson. No, no, no. Jalen Green might be in that. No, he's not in that. If Houston keep – if they can keep Thompson, but if you're Milwaukee, you can ask – No, no, no. You can ask – they're not giving up Thompson.

You can ask for Jalen Green and give up for Giannis. You're giving me Thompson for Giannis. No. You're not. No. 100%. They're not going to do it. You're going to give me – not only you got to give me Thompson, you got to be thinking about giving me Thompson for Giannis. No. You're not. No. 100%. They're not going to do it. You're going to give me Thompson.

Not only you got to give me Thompson, you got to be thinking about giving me something else. Jalen Green. I can give you, I'll give you Jalen Green, Eason, Jabari, Cam Whitmore, and what's it? I can give up. Yeah. And if you're Milwaukee, you're not saying no to that.

But you're giving up too much to avoid giving up one guy. Yeah. You're getting some. No. That one guy is one of the best players in the NBA. We don't know nothing, just like the rest of the guys. We know what you're doing. But that's what you're getting.

Who are you getting? Who are you getting? Huh? Who are you getting for this? Bro. You're getting Giannis 30. 30th. 12.

30th. And six. A night. For a guy who just came into the league. Yeah, yeah. No. I'm doing that deal. No. That's a championship in two years. Because I need him and Giannis. For a guy who just came into the league. Yeah, yeah, no. I'm doing that deal. That's a championship in two years.

Because I need him and Giannis to protect. For Thompson? No, for Giannis in Houston. For Thompson and you should say Thompson and Whitmore. You're not getting Thompson. I'm not giving up Thompson, dog. You keeping Eason, Jabari, and all these other. I'm not keeping Thompson.

But that's the best for Houston. Thompson's a dog. Because you can see that talent right now. You can say. I'm not giving up. I'm in. They're you can say. Thompson's a dog. Because you can see that talent right now. You can say, I'm not giving him Amin. They're young. No. For Giannis? No.

No. I'm not giving him Amin Thompson. No. He's a dog. On record. Because if I'm going to win a championship. On record. If I'm going to win a championship.

Because we're going to come back to this. On record. No, what I'm saying is if I'm going to win a championship. I'm keeping Amin Thompson. I'm winning the championship because I need a player like Thompson. You have Giannis. He is my glue guy. Giannis is the seven-foot even.

No, that's my Drew Holiday. No, he is seven-foot even. He's my Drew Holiday. Play both ends. And he's going to guard. He's whatever I need him to be. So I need him to win the championship. Jalen can go.

I'm keeping Ahmed Thompson. Everybody else, but I'm keeping Thompson. On that note we gotta shut it down for today we got all summer terrific we got all summer

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