Gil's Arena - Gilbert Arenas DOESN'T TRUST Golden State

Episode Date: February 23, 2023

Gil and Jo discuss Russell Westbrook, Dame Lillard, and if the Warriors dynasty is over after 2023. GIl's Arena is NOW LIVE. Every Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Brought to you by Underdog Fantasy: Sign up here for a deposit match up to $100 Follow Gil on Twitter (yup, he's back): https://twitter.com/GilsArena Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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still hating on the Wi-Fi. This is what I think happened. I think all the Caucasian neighbors you have banded together. That's everyone. They had a council meeting. That's all. And we're going to fuck up Gil's WiFi so he can't get this show out to the people live like he want to. But we still doing it. Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Woof, woof. Woof.

We back with the man, the myth, the legend, Gilbert Arenas. And we got two gentlemen. You saw them on the first two episodes. We got Brandon Jennings here in the building. We got Rashad McCants in the building. He covered up this time. Uh-huh. With the cramp. We got Brandon Jennings here in the building. We got Rashad McKenzie in the building. He covered up this time. Uh-huh.

With the crown. They was asking about the crown. They going to ask about everything, man. The whole head to toe fit. Where can we get a crown like that? Man, you got to be born with some shit like this, man. This is my mom's place. She put this up in the closet.

When you get older, you going to fit it. You know what I'm saying? I done grew into it, you know what I'm gonna put this up in the closet. When you get older, you gonna fit it. You know what I'm saying? I done grew into it. You know what I'm saying? Grew into it. So, let's get into it. It's time for hibachi time. Damn, all right.

Okay. It's hibachi time. Mr. Gil, Dame Lillard, your Adidas brethren. And before we start, I see you with the nice Adidas fit. I need to get that plug. You know what I mean? Who is your Adidas plug? Why go to the mall when I can go to the..

You got a mall. I go online. You got a mall upstairs. I go online. You got these. We wear the same when I can go to the you got a ball. I got ball upstairs. I say you got these and we were the same size too. So I'm gonna sneak up during the show. One of these walls.

I'm still here. Wow. That's a 14th. 14 is not the same size. Oh 14. The same shoes. They won't know. You did this is last season.

I don't know. So now I'm not fitting in that that's going to be snuggie on me, but you're Adidas brethren Damian Lillard the Blazers team playing got stuck in a blizzard. I think they were on a plane for seven hours dropped a freestyle now during the freestyle jammed up the following bar shooters in the locker room like we the Wizards. Are you honored to be mentioned in this freestyle? Yes, sir. There's no be means who no beef. You rock it with it.

Zero. Okay, that's zero to zero. We got the shoe. Is it over? Nope. The cash my word. I wore it the first episode. I thought I had my shoe. I definitely had it on the first episode. Collab very comfortable. Very comfortable.

Very comfortable. Made me want to go get some buckets. So you honored to be in Dame's freestyle? Yes, man. Yes. Mention me. So people don't know, Dame was supposed to do the freestyle for the show, Gil. I know you reached out.

So he got time to do freestyles. You know. He ain't got the Gil's Arena freestyle for him. No, because everything, you know, all-star season, trading. So, you know, we'll probably get it in the summer. Okay. Probably get that in the summer. Okay, probably get that in the summer. And we still waiting. We still waiting.

God damn it. So question for the panel. Is Dame the best NBA rapper of all time? But before you answer, I'm gonna throw some names out there. Shack, Kobe, Stack, Dana Barrows on the NBA's best-kept secrets. Hey, Cedric Sabalos. Stack who? Stack? Stack 5. Oh, Stack 5. I mean, you got we got stack house. We got

that fire. All right, take five. We got a I a I dropped a banger Lonzo miles bridges in the current area. And we can't forget about my personal favorite Master P. Well, wait, you can't you can't preseason roster. He got an NBA check. He has a

dirty name on. No, that's per diem.season roster. He got an NBA check. He has a jersey with a name on. No, that's per diem. Check. That's not an NBA check. That's a per diem check that does not count. It's not see Miller had an NBA signed. It's not what I'm saying. It's not written. The check is not written to you. That's given in a white envelope. The Percy Miller had a journey can't put Master P. That's what I can't tell him that.

No, I know you can't tell him that, but that's unfair to throw in Master P. Like, when he sees this, he's going to have a problem. No, no, he's not. No, you got to play a game in the official game. You got to play official. So other than Master P, we'll remove him from the list. That's not just saying, like, J. Cole,

because he had a tryout. You can't do that. NBA Africa. He did it in the African League. He got a bucket. He had a tryout. You can't do that. Yeah, Africa. He did it. The African League. He got a bucket. We had a solid to go play. Yeah. Yeah, you can't you can't throw in. So then no Master P Master P excluded. Who is Dame the best NBA rapper of all time? Okay.

We're doing bars. We're doing body of work. Bars, Body of Work. It all goes into it. It's like the Go debate but for rapping. Well, that's going to be unfair then because, you know, back when Shaq was doing it, it was bubble gum rap. So, it was all kiddie type stuff.

I don't know. Shaq got a song with Notorious though, V.I.G. That's tough. Well, they ain't got one with Lil Wayne. You know what I mean? So for this era, I'm pretty sure they're gonna... So Dame is that dude? I don't know, y'all.

Y'all gotta say something. I like Miles Bridges. The younger generation is rolling with Miles Bridges. Miles Bridges is hard. Miles Bridges is tough. I haven't heard. And he rapping like a real rapper. Oh, yeah, he in the in the trenches with the homies.

Yeah, I'm gonna go with day. I'm going day. I'm going day. Just because he's current, you know, he got bars. He got old school bars. He can deliver both sides. Anyone has radio play besides Lonzo ball. I feel like Cedric Sabalos was getting some radio play back in the day out in LA. At least I think Dave was getting some

radio play. No, I know he got no, no what I'm saying. I know he got but I remember like Lonzo. He might shumpert. Lonzo did. Oh, he might shumpert. able to stack a little bit by stack that did a little bit, but they didn't push it. Like yeah, so that was pushing it in Milwaukee though. He had a mixtape. Yeah, so probably Dame is probably the most active one that's out there.

Come on. Yeah commercially next All-Star weekend. We need the verses Adam silver. If you taking notes, let's get the NBA player rapper versus this Cypher. That's like it. But she didn't I gonna do it because somebody gonna get climbed. Whoa, whoa, hold're not going to do it because somebody's going to get clowned. Well, hold on, hold on, hold on.

I had to think about it. We just heard Dame do a song on the plane about the plane. That means it's in real time. Absolutely. That was nice, too. All right, I got Dame. Because I had to really think about it. He wrote it. Yeah, he wrote it on the had to really think about it. Like he wrote it. He was on a real.

He wrote it on the plane while he's on a plane and boom like got the whole team to be in had the good angle. Yeah, I mean, that was the beat that he wanted to rhyme. Yeah, I mean, come on. Y'all got to check out Miles Bridges. So I'm pretty sure he ain't putting no flow on on the plane. Aaron Gordon got flow to though. Y'all ain't heard Aaron Gordon. No, I heard Aaron Gordon got

some feets. He got last fire. We have the y'all listening to my bridges. Don't know. What music is y'all listening to even notice? We not listen to heard it through the grapevine. We not listening to that. I mean,

that's it. Just pop up on YouTube. People like, poop, pop up. Depending on what rabbit hole you going down. OK, OK, OK. You on some bullshit? Algorithm is interesting. It'll send you all kind of places. I mean, I do have Lonzo, too, that'll pop in.

I'm like, OK. It's a little bit. Ah, ah, OK. All right. Miles and Aaron are like new age. They got their own beats? Miles Bridges got his own., like I got all his stuff. Oh, oh.

He talking. My kids play Miles Bridges stuff. He talk like he don't play basketball. He talk like he's in the trap. Yeah, like in the trap. In the trap. Like getting technically in the trap. Yeah.

He is in the trap right now. He is in the trap. We talked about this a little bit before the show, and y'all was getting into it. But real quickly, if y' the trap right now. He is We talked about this little bit before the show and y'all was getting into it But real quickly if y'all go around greatest rapper of all time Y'all let you go first. This is your show. Jigga paying all of us Jay-z Jay-z Shaw you got some interesting opinions about that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna go ahead and just show the people this Thing but I think I have them on my jacket

Tupac Shakur Thank you very much on here and just show the people this is. I think I have them on my jacket. Two Pacs of core. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. And Brandon, who you rolling with? Man, I'm going with Jay-Z. And we're both West Coasters. It's okay. Y'all not real West Coasters.

That's all that means. I love Pac. I got Machiavelli tatted on the top of my head, and I love Pac. But we rented Pac. Like, we rented Pac just like we rented, like, LeBron. Like, we renting these greats. Like, you're not from here. Is it a rent? I mean, you're from Baltimore.

He embraced us, though. Is it a rent, though? He embraced us. We're renting you because Snoop Dogg, being who he is, as great as he is, he was like, no, let's just take a step back, Suge. Let's give him the... That's the real L.A. move, though. Y'all bought him.

Y'all did not rent Tupac. Y'all said, we need that asset. No, I mean, doggy style job. We was fine. We was fine. But what happened after doggy style, though, y'all needed a battery pack. No, for sure. But that's what I'm saying. Like we were running. Being who he was. Y'all was backseat a little. East coast likes to over. Y'all lost control of the no Vaseline

and y'all let that go to New York. He was out there fucking with a public enemy. And then that's when Tupac said, this is a little weak. This is a little weak. Let me go over here with them. Okay, so what if New Orleans started claiming Snoop Dogg as one of their greats? They do. No, they don't. Yeah, they do.

No, they don't. Why? Because he went down there with Matt? Yeah, for two years. No way. They give Snoop love. They give Snoop crazy love. But they're not claiming him.

Yeah, they're not claiming Snoop like he came and saved New Orleans. No, they're not. And why does Snoop get more love on the West Coast? Why does Snoop? Why doesn't he? Because we wasn't supposed to get doggy style. Why not? Because of what he was going through.

If he doesn't get off on that trial, we don't ever hear doggy style. And then who he has became, like he's more than just a rapper. He made Smokin' Weed cool. He made, you know, just being like from the West Coast, like I feel like, you know, lean back like everywhere I go, I'm just chill. Because I'm like, you know, it's that Snoop like, you know. That is kind of funny with Snoop is it's like he transcended rap. So when we're talking about the greatest rappers,

we forget because he's been out of like he's, you know what I mean? It's like he's been somewhere else. Like even though we, when we say, what about Snoop? Oh shit, yeah, Snoop, god damn. Like two. We want to put him somewhere

but because he's been bigger than, he's been big, just like Dr. Dre. Is he though? He's top five. Let's think about it. Think about it. Think about it. Snoop took himself out of a genre.

He said, I'm no longer a gangster rapper. After No Limit, it was, man, beautiful. It was Snoop Lion for a little bit. So what Snoop did is he tapped into a whole other market, right? And so for L.A., if you take gangster rap, Snoop the leader, kind of help usher in that movement, you take him out. You take him out of the conversation. Where do you put Snoop in the conversation in mainstream pop culture?

Yeah. Okay. When you talk about music, right? So then you're like, well, Snoop's all over the place. It's like he did that to himself. But if we put him in Gangsta Rap, he's still top. That's what I'm saying. I think rapper in general, he's top.

Yeah. I think he's top. I would just say he was until he took, he took yourself out. No. What is, if you're thinking rap is just some ghetto stuff, then yeah, that makes sense. And he's better than still look at it as right now future NBA young boy 12 young little dirt and all 12. You know, I think pocket I think Snoop is better than Pog but of course because Snoop

is still living but I just feel like he was going to always mature faster than Pac. Pac had this beef with just with bad boy like Biggie like the beef was just so it is like okay well after a while like you see now on the internet when guys are still beefing it's just like all right like next like you know it would have died down it wouldn't it's like where's the growth though like like where's the growth from here and I felt like Pac was a better actor. You see but now that's LA. I like them in movies. Yeah, for sure. But you look at the music, right?

And if was a fifth, we all be drunk as fuck, right? Yet, yet we got the same core. Look at Tupac, his body of work, his facets of talent, the women, the gangsters, the homies, the white people. He get them all. And he got them all. And you include acting with that. And again, your movie, your tour. And you include that.

So then you take his commercial hits, all the things that he was doing, and you say, all right, we squashed the beef with Biggie. We go to Atlanta. We start Death Row East. We build up. We do our constitutional activism shit that we said we was going to do. We go out and be a public figure, an influence without the beef.

Where is everyone else in the equation as Tupac is still living and coming up? We don't know. You don't see them. They're not in the equation. We don't know. You can't. Wait, Death Row East was a waste of time. It wouldn't have been because that's what Atlanta ended up being anyway.

Pac was leaving. Yeah, that's what Atlanta ended up being anyway. Pac was leaving. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He was going to go east, back east. Back to where he came from. Yeah, and it wasn't going to be Devereaux East. He was using Devereaux East. So we're winning him. He was using Devereaux East to get there.

But what I'm saying is the Atlanta hub became Atlanta because that's where the energy was going to go. That's where Pac was taking the energy, to Atlanta. And that's what makes Pac that much more better than everyone else, because everything he touched is going to go up. Jay-Z's not taking culture and moving it over here and saying, hey, y'all, come with me.

We're going to do this. You what? Look, he took title. He took title and sold it. He took Duse and sold it. He took Rockefeller and sold it. He took all the things that we take as a culture and say, all right, Jay got this. And he sold it.

He ended everything. Ended what? He started button-ups. We all wore button-ups. Then he dropped button-ups. We all dropping it. When did he start it? He talked about jerseys.

We all bought jerseys. He stopped wearing them. Threw them away. Cash Money Records was wearing jerseys before Jay-Z. Who ended it? Nelly. Jay-Z. Nelly.

I don't wear jerseys. I'm 30 plus. I'm 30 plus. I'm wearing button-ups. I'm 30 plus. Jay-Z. Everybody. No.

New Yorkers stopped that. New Yorkers stopped wearing jerseys. He ended jerseys off the list. LA niggas was still wearing jerseys. I was wearing button-ups. Down South nigg Yorkers stopped wearing jerseys. He ended jerseys off the list. L.A. niggas was still wearing jerseys. I was wearing button-ups. Down South niggas was still wearing jerseys. That's when the league had to wear button-ups. That's the only reason we was doing it.

That's the only reason we was wearing button-ups is because we had to change the dress code and the song came out the same time. Mitchell and Ness, their company ended because of Jay-Z. No, they still around, though. Mitchell and Ness? Mitchell and Ness. No, no, no, no. Heavy, and they still around heavy.

They're still around. They're still around. Does not mean anyone's just wearing jerseys like that anymore. Because they might not do push-ups no more. You out there fat. We used to go to May. Cristal, when you look good. Cristal. Cristal ended. All right, fellas. We could there. Go to May. Look good. Yeah.

Crystal ended. Go. All right. Fellas. We could talk about this all day. And we talk about this all gold bottles. Get about it here. He brought it in and threw it away.

We got it. We can talk about this all day, but now it's time for zero to 100. One of my favorite segments on this very, very young show, Gil. So the Westbrook to the Clippers thing, we've talked about a little bit. AD spoke on it yesterday. Ty Lue spoke on it as well. And here's what Ty Lue had to say. He said, we want Russ to be Russ.

If he's doing too much or not enough, we'll let him know. We want him to be the MVP, the Hall of Famer that he is. He's excited. He just wants to win. So 0 to be the MVP, the Hall of Famer that he is. He's excited. He just wants to win. So zero to 100, what are the chances that Russell Westbrook thrives with the Clippers? Usually I always go like one or 100, right? I got to give a number. Do you do? Because you always say zero or 100. That's what I'm saying. So like 80 or 92.

92.3. If you want to keep it LA-centric. 92.3. He succeeds. His coach says, I want you to be you. They're not trying to make him be someone else like they did with the yellow and gold. So you be you. We want the Russ. We want the MVP player. So there's no confusion here with him.

Do y'all think it's wild, though? We talked about this a little bit yesterday after the show, that Russ was the sixth man on the 13th seed in the West. Now has the potential to be the starter on the fourth seed in the West. Literally playing in the same arena. Okay, so whose fault is that? Like, who looks stupid? We're going to find out because we haven't played a game yet.

But what I'm saying is, think about it. If you're coming off the bench on the 13th seed and on the second seed. Fourth, I believe. Let me double check. Because you're not going to pack me up if I'm not right. Who looks stupid? Fourth, 33-28. Who looks stupid from the previous?

Is it the owner? Is it the player? I mean, not the player, obviously. It sounds like you want some Darwin Hampton. Is it the owner? Is it the player? I mean, not the player. Obviously, it's not like you want some Darwin coach. I mean, someone has to answer for my didn't have enough balls. Yeah, someone there. He goes, I'm going to have no cojones. So I have enough balls to be like, not this will be rolling with Ty Lue. Yeah, come on.

Yeah. I mean, yeah, I know we got Kawhi Leonard. He's a two-time NBA champ, but now come on, we need you to be you, though. That's the difference. That's my problem with that. The team hasn't developed an identity within themselves to say, Russ, come be who you are. Because we don't know what the team will look like with Russ being who he is. Because Paul hasn't started being who he is yet.

Kawhi still hasn't tapped into the guy we've seen win championships. So who are they didn't let Reggie be who he was right? So you come in and you get this illusion like a look

Russ do what you do best. It was like, all right, what does that look like with these other two guys out here? What does that look like? Is that a disaster? Does that look like LA? But we are optimistic because we think I believe Russ is

this is his best situation because he can come in and be himself. I'm the I don't know what that looks like with the other two guys. I know what it looked like the last time you play one of them that one average 28 at his best year. When we didn't say nothing about what they were not you don't like the Clippers. But what I'm saying is you have to say let you be you because we know what you look like

when you're not you. All right, that's been the last year and a half. So I know what that we know what that looks like. So we got I don't want to say that be you so we can see what it looks like at least. I got it. Remember what you think and he's already you said, his resume speaks for itself. So guys that play with him get better. So let him be him.

And I think, like, that's the main thing. Did y'all see his swag where they had a walk-in and a hug? Yeah, yeah. Hey, that's the beyond it, though. You see how he walked in? He had that pep, right? He had that pep. That was kind of after the thing in the locker room in Washington.

When I came down, that's how I walked out. Hey, what's up? What's up? What we doing? Uh huh. Look, I know how you feel about the Clippers. I know how you feel about the Clippers. Yes, man.

I want to ask y'all too. Do y'all think that this Clippers team can actually do something or is it going to be the Clippers curse? Can they really finally get over that hump? I mean, I think the Clippers are just cursed regardless. It don't matter what happens. It's not just the Clippers. It's the Clippers.

It's the Clippers. It's the Clippers. It's the Clippers. It's the Clippers. It's the Clippers. It's the Clippers. It's the Clippers. It's this Clippers team can actually do something or is it going to be the Clippers curse? Can they really finally get over that hump? I mean, I think the Clippers are just curse regardless. It don't matter what happened. You know, it's not even about the players. Not about Ty Lue.

It's just that Clippers. There's this curse. Like I just the stench of Donald Sterling. This is the thing. I always say does my pop played during the Donald Sterling era. He was a piece of shit. I'm going to happily on record and say that but his wife is still associated with the team.

So until you get the complete break where she's gonna have to do do sound holler back. She still gets tickets. You know, I mean, she still has a presence. You still have that Sterling stench hanging over the franchise. Steve Ballmer's tried to get rid of it. He's put up a big bag to make those things happen. But if Shelly still around, then what do you expect? She's an extension. She didn't see shit because she was doing shit too. I don't

mind them moving to Seattle. Woof. Like I don't mind them moving again. I getting out of LA. I know they just built the arena in Englewood though, but I flew over it. It looks yeah, I was like a little cool little 15,000 cool of 15,000 18 or whatever.

But yeah, I think they should go back to like Seattle or somewhere like move it. Like it seemed like they were having success in Anaheim back in the day when they was playing out at the Palm when the Palm first opened, they were getting good crowds and all that stuff. I'm going to go against the grain on y'all. I'm going to hear this man go. I'm going to give them a chance. A chance to what? We're a crowd like that.

No, no, no, no, that. No, no, they can never have it. You know, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, disrespect that. We're going to say this. The Clippers can take it to the Eastern Conference finals. Western the Western. Yeah. No, he said it right. If they was over there. No, no, no, no. He said it right. That's how the losing. The way that they can think they can win in the East. So

look on the west. We talking about sneak sneak sleeper teams that can catch teams off guard when they not ready at the end of the season going into playoffs. You don't want to match up against the Clippers in the first round. And if they get past the right team and going to the second round and they healthy,

they can they can make a move. I'm saying just with the team with the three players. They got they can make a move. I don't want to count them out because Russ can get them there. I just don't think that they got a player that can take them over the top get in there as can get they can get there. Okay. I know you ain't been how long you been in LA?

I'm just saying man. I don't know how long you been in LA? I'm just saying, man. It's not an LA thing for me. No, no, no, no. How long you been here? Like 10 years. 10 years, right. So have you ever met an actual Clipper fan? Yes, Clipper Darrell.

Right, right. Clipper Darrell, you got Marcellus Wiley, right? Those are the only two? Basically. Right. Have you noticed every year they have hope? Yeah. And when they lose, it's already the next day, championship, right?

Like, it's delusional. Yeah. If they get to the Eastern, I mean the Western Conference for the first time, they're gonna be like, oh, I'm gonna win. I'm gonna win. I'm gonna win. I'm gonna win. I'm gonna win. I'm gonna win. I'm gonna win. they have hope. Yeah, and when they lose, it's already the next day championship, right? Like the delusional if they get to the Eastern, I mean the Western Conference finals. Do you know how bad those two men are going to be? It's

sufferable. Like we're not going to be able to sleep as a city. If those who are running around talking about how they got to the Western Conference finals, if you keep playing the lottery one day, you go with all that. Like they get to the Western Conference finals. Where to God? I'm checking off Instagram. I am not going to be on Instagram. New I am. It's going to all post about I don't think so. If the big teams can take themselves out and leave the Clippers stuck with a couple mediocre teams

to beat like a Utah and a you know what I'm saying? I mean, I see they could depending on who's in front of them. I get it, but I don't. The playoffs are today and this is not realistic, but Clippers would be the four sons of the five. So that would be their match. Yes, they knockout. That's not going to happen. That's not going to happen. You don't think that's a good match up.

I don't think that's a great match. It's not even a match. No, it's a great match. It's just the fact that I don't even think Kawhi Leonard can play back. That's a great. It's a great match up. Like for you, I think he healthy enough. I don't I don't know. He's out a lot. He's in and out a lot. And I don't know if he's going, I don't like, you know, playoffs is different and he can't and he hasn't been playing a lot this year. So he can't play back toto-back. So what you're

going to do in the playoffs when it's that high intense. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, like like, you know, it's a lot of help. Like I'm watching a lot of guys is just sitting out. It's like, okay. Well, you ain't gonna do nothing when the playoffs start, right? Because that's another intensity. Hmm. All right. Let's let's take it back to New Orleans. They heard who you got what to what come out the West? Yeah, Lakers.

Okay. I'm delusional. It's a guy. I'm talking about. I know you're talking about me. No, I'm talking about me. Look, if you look at that top that top half of the West, you got what the Nuggets the Grizzlies. Do you really believe the Nuggets or Grizzlies. Do you really believe the

Nuggets or Grizzlies are just a surefire? Like, oh, we know that but wait, what's it is the Lakers 13? Are they going to even get in? They got 23 games left. We saw how they played against the Pelicans. How long you been here? But look, you said yes. LeBron James take LeBron and ad off that team right now. It's a G League team team, but with LeBron and ad on that team, it's a G League team. Oh, y'all just come down for a game or two. I'm gonna be right. I don't know how to West it. It looks crazy because I

don't I don't have a ton of faith for the teams at the top and these next 23 games just going to break out. But this is probably the craziest Western Conference. I think I've seen in a long time where you know, you trick three or four games. You go from 450 to out the playoffs. Usually how is probably the craziest Western Conference. I think I've seen in a long time where you know, you trick there for games you go from 450 to out the playoffs. Usually how it is. I'm saying with the Clippers. They were like you go stop with the Clippers. Oh, you stop with the Clippers. You stop with the left.

All right. All right. I said it first. I'm standing here first. We doing our predictions. I'm telling you Clippers got a chance. I'm not picking them. The wind it. I'm not picking them. I'm not picking them. A chance of what though? To make it a good run. Who made it a good run? Which one? Make it a big friend. Let's talk. Let's talk about another team in the West that we have not mentioned yet. That's the defending champion Golden State

Warriors. So we're going to do a segment called trust issues. Steph still has at least another week for his clear to come back to the court as it stands right now. The words are 29 and 29, which is good enough for ninth place. They'd be in the playing game at the season started or the playoffs started. Gil, do you trust the Warriors to defend their title? You know, they're a team that's been there, done that. They've been there, they've done that. They've won last year.

No one expected it. With a non-healthy know, that was his first year back. So, I don't trust them to win it, but I wouldn't bet against them. Okay. You know what I mean? I'm not gonna put my money against it because we we just watched last year. This team just come out of nowhere and just click at the right time. So, you know, if they get into the playoffs, I'm pretty sure they're thinking the same thing. As long as we get in the playoffs,

we have a chance to repeat. Brandon, what you think? I got to agree. And it depends on how Steph comes back. I know he's getting revaluated this week or two, so we'll see how he comes back. But like you said, you can't count them out. Like, I mean, they go through this all the time.

But I think this is last. I think this is it, though. Like, this is it for go through this all the time, but I think this is last. I think this is it though. Like this is it for that whole group. Like so this is the last season. Yeah, I think this is I think Draymond's gone. And I think they just have to find another way like, you know, find that other dog to come in there and you know, be able to take over that that that position that they need. You think you think they're you think Draymond's gone after

they got rid of Wiseman because he was supposed to look like he was supposed to be in a replacement. I just think everything that happened this year from the beginning. I think he's been going like, you know, just like I think this is it. Like I think this is just the last one like, you know, let's see if we can get one here and then you know, moving on.

But you know, I definitely think we'll put that Laker Jersey on. You They Draymond going to Lakers. I like to break bread. I just don't know if they have enough bread to give them. I mean, well, we got to figure out something. Yeah, I don't I don't see how he comes here because of LeBron didn't like wrestle because the floor was the floor was shrunken. How are you going to bring Draymond Green into? Because our relationship is better.

Huh? Our relationship is better. Okay. You rolling or not? Y'all not. You know he's going to go against us, bro. Oh, you know I'm going. You know it.

Because y'all not addressing the elephant in the room. Last year, there wasn't no punch knockout. Hey boy, get your ass up. You talk shit to me ever again in your life. You said it wasn't there wasn't they want it good chemistry. Oh everything is looking lovely out here next year. Hey Jordan, you feeling yourself out here a little boy. Shut up, man. You ain't going to get no money after this. You're going to get traded.

Wait, wait, wait. That changes everything. Because that little shadow running around in that locker room, like, hey, man, you going to punch that nigga back or what? Are you going to punch him back or no? So you think that was the first time he done that? I'm not saying it was. Oh, I'm going to say that. I'm saying it was the tipping point of Clay and Steph being able to be like,

about time somebody hit this little motherfucker in the face. Hey, look, he running around out there. Jordan Poole running around out there like, hey, look, this is my team. So they're going to have teammate issues. They're going to they still trying to figure out what's going on right now. Steph been out long enough to Jordan pool go from 14 points of game off the bench to 28 starting. With no Steph. I'm averaging 28. So so when they come back, they still got to figure out

they chemistry issues on something that happened because of a Draymond Green Draymond. Once again, compromise team integrity that pushed KD out. They could have won five championships and then won this one last year. They could win this and again, if that didn't that exit that incident don't happen, right?

The incident happened to take the team chemistry to the point. We got to get rid of Jordan. Cuz after they just paid him. Yeah, Jordan pool. Yeah, they got to get rid of him or they break the whole team up. So you saying you would get rid of Jordan for you got rid of Draymond and that and that no, I'm getting rid of the I'm cutting it up and I'm keeping Jordan.

The Warriors should have took care of Draymond though. They shouldn't have or they should have. Like I feel this frustration though. Like y'all don't want to like give me my like, extension, like, after all I've done. Like, you know, his ego, too. Like, you know, I'm a big part of this, right? I'm a big part of all this. 100%.

So don't get it twisted. Like, when I come out here, you know I'm doing all this. So y'all don't want to take care of me. So I always feel like him and Bron becoming close was such a good, like, was such a good thing from Bron, because it's like, okay, well, I'm going to take your heart, you know, have him over here with me, hanging out with me, you know what I'm saying? And, you know, like, when it comes to, like, business,

like, I feel it because it's like, well, like, he, you know, well, he, you know, he fucking with me outside of the hoop. And they don't, you know, they don't fuck with me. All right, well, I'm going to, you know, yeah, he is the greatest. Yeah, he is this. Because now we're doing business outside of basketball. Now it hit different.

So it's like, you know, I don't know if he's doing business with the guys on his team, like Steph and all these other guys. But it's like, yeah, like, you know, guys asking to get paid and nobody's in there fighting for me because you're thinking this and that. All right, well, then, all right, well, I'm going to go. And Brian, you know, being smart, he knew. Like, yeah, let me go get the dog. Let me go get the one that's, like, really keep going to go. And Brian, you know, being smart, he knew. Like, yeah, let me go get the dog. Let me go get the one that's like really keep them all together.

You talking about a whole other conversation, too, because that's what A.B. was talking about with Tom Brady. Like, when you fuck with your teammate off the floor, he fight for you, and he going to make sure you come back on that team because this is my man. I can't function without him. But if you're not my man, and I got some man's on another team. He like a yo. They treat you bad over there, huh? That's all we do.

Biggest competition to and we're in the finals and we in the fight. Oh, yeah. That's all we did. That's all we did on the court. Pass me the ball, man. Football boy got back. You was averaging like 17 and 8, man. I don't know why you taking this. I don't know. It's like that old Kiffin street.

How you going to just let him swing the ball past you? He looking you off out here, man. He looking you off. So, question for everybody then. Now, we look at this Warriors squad, and again, let's just say hypothetically, season end of the day, they be playing for an A seed because they're the ninth in the West the way that playing is structured.

Now if you're the Nuggets or the Grizzlies and you see that are you trying to duck that first round matchup? Fuck. Yeah, are you taking a head on? No, no, no. I don't know. No, because they want that matchup. Yes, who won't match up the Nuggets or the Grizzlies Grizzlies.

Okay, the Grizzlies want that matchup because they want to prove that to the better team. Absolutely after what happened last year prove it in the second round. That's what I'm saying. No, they want to prove it. They like if they I don't see them. I don't see a team like that. It's too young to try to play that that Dodge.

I want to dodge you team, you know, they did cocky right now. So you know, they want to try to beat him and say yo, I want you first round. I want to knock your hopes out. What if you're the Nuggets? And that's you know, when you're when you're a top one to see, you know playing against the you know, the champs, you know,

that's hard. That's just the that's a horrible first round. You want to play against a legit HC. That's what I'm saying. You know what I mean? And that's but I'm not going to lose their their first seed to do jump down. Okay, to the but it is going to do it. But look at look at what y'all talking about though. If the if we looking at one through nine.

Denver matching up against the Warriors is good for Denver. That's good for Denver because the other matchups is bad for Denver in the first for the first round. All the other teams in the West other than the Warriors. They're the weakest team. The Warriors the war in the West as far as matchups for Denver for Denver. Why would them because they don't the Warriors don't match up with Denver. Joker. But they can't match up with none of the other players.

They can't match up the dream on can contain Joker for sure. It ain't about him containing Joker is about Joker being able to be Joker while he out there and getting all the other guys involved all those other guys don't focus on getting involved when Joker's doing his thing. When you isolate Joker and you neutralize him, it makes the team better. With Draymond, that's going to be, that's going to be,

just like when Dwight. Draymond only got six fouls. Just like when Dwight, just like when Dwight, the reason they couldn't beat, because the white man handled him. Who? The white man handled Joker. The white, AD and JaVale McGee they had three bigs and we certainly three

One they had they had to move them boys around to get to that man Go back and look at it Man dream I will about six seven to white about six ten six eleven. I mean six fouls, bro And you were and you a hack. That's all I'm saying. And you a hack. We're going to run this big ass off pick and rolls. 30 and 11. Pick and rolls.

We zoned it. Zoned it up out there. That's not how that works. Match up zone out there. Double the top. Move to the corners. On the best shooter. That's a one thing.

We've done it. Not against them? Yes. You've done it against Steph. Before they came back and won this last one. It took Steph a little bit to adjust. All because Clay wasn't there. Yes, of course.

But Clay and Clay and Clay. No, no, and you just said Jordan Poole has been averaging. What look 2828 collect. That's Jordan Jordan's a monster. I ain't worried about. So now you have curry and Jordan and clay just them two. We just got to focus on them. They gonna knock him down. Yeah, I'm gonna knock it down in the player. They gonna

not make fun of Denver. I mean, if you're Denver, the best team you want to play right now. One through nine. I'd rather play over the plate of Grizzlies. Yeah, if you're doing but you're not playing the UK, but whoever is that whoever plays Denver, I mean, whoever plays Grizz feels happy about that matchup. Why because they're not proven. It don't matter. This can park it at some point. You got to

prove it. Is that about not being proven. It's about we have three years. It's time for us to say, now we're proven. If you're a veteran team, that's the team you want every single time. I want the young boys who have no credibility in the playoffs. They have no veterans. They have no veterans. They have no referees.

Come on. Isn't that when you get credibility, though, when the vets come in and they say, we't do because they young Then you beat the vets and it's like a y'all don't come here with What you mean Every team that's emerged to be anything Same thing happened with the Warriors before they became the dynasty. They was the young unproven team They came in and won.

Then they became the proven team. How long did it take? Two years. Two years. Wait, wait. It took Steph two years? After they, Mark Jackson, after his departure. Two years.

No, I think that was three. How long was Mark Jackson there? Three years? Two. Just the first two? No, because I played Steph my rookie year and it was Don Nelson. No, no, no after after what's that became playoff after coach after the coach

which it was that one year that they wanted to lecture. Yeah. Okay, two years. All right, two years. Let's keep this thing moving man. We got to talk about Zion. So when you look at Zion, I think reports just came out that hold on. Let me pull it here. He's missed 60% of Pelicans So we look at Zion. I think reports just came out that hold on. Let me pull it here. He's missed 60% of pelicans game before entering the league and they're saying he's not close to returning this year as

he recovered from a right hamstring injury. So we're going to talk about trust in issues. Do you trust Zion's body to hold up for an entire season? The body he has right now the body he has no what you got to do to it. What I'm saying, because the body he has right now, he's out for the rest gotta do to it what I'm saying because the body he has right now He's out for the rest of season. So what do you got to do to it? Yes the lose He's really listen

When he was in college, I was the only person that said why are you guys glorifying this weight? You guys are glorifying weight when there's guys in the league who have weight clauses that you're trying to get down. Why is this impressive to you guys? Yeah, six six six five six seven, whatever it is 285 at 19 years old. He only gets bigger with time by the age of 23. He will be if he doesn't like this in college, this is an NBA going through NBA You're drinking Gatorade all that extra sugar your party and every night plane rides He will be all of three hundred and ten pounds before he's 21 22. I

Said that then they all thought I was stupid And living in New Orleans and living in New Orleans cuz you gotta remember no matter we can be on diets right now We're not gonna be on diets at 19 20 21. we're gonna be 19 20 21 year old kids hanging out having fun partying so i seen it coming so for him and i said he needs to be more of a lose a lot of weight to be a shooting guard come downhill be about 245 250. Got to cut weights about 245 250. You got to remember as you jump, you got to come down six times that powers coming on

those knees. So you have he has to get to the 245 250, right? I don't trust it. That's a hard city to do that in. I'm just being real here. There's something like, okay do that in. They got I'm just being real. Yeah. There's something like, okay, see you can get that off the Applebee's ain't really hitting like that. So funny. And I said, I said, you know, with a player like that, he does a player like that didn't need. He didn't need a

nutritionist. He needed another player that had problems just like that. So you mean like Carmelo, right? You can see Carmelo, like, really takes care of his body to stay thin. Talk to him, what does he do? Al Harrington, guys who really had to focus on, like, all right, I gotta, you know, we're about to go to Miami or something, right?

Let me run two miles before I get on this plane, eat this plane food, then go to Miami. What? These niggas lazy. No. They all lazy. At 21? Let me tell you why.

You know how? Let me tell you why they lazy. Mm-hmm. You look at Lonzo, Chet, Holmgren, all these young players that's getting these first, second, third year injuries because it's college, they not in the weight room. Y'all not on the track.

Y'all not doing all the things we had to do when we was in college to really, really, really stay in shape. 33s, the six, the tens, the real running, the real stay in shape, like body fat, that stuff they do at Miami. You know what I'm saying? That should be league wide, right? Just for a standard of you staying in top shape as an athlete. But why the hell should the organization hold you to that standard and you not hold yourself to that standard? If I'm Zion and anybody in his camp and I know that you came out of college 6'7", 285, and you saying to me as Gilbert

Arenas, if you got down to 245, bro, LeBron ain't got nothing on you. So why wouldn't I take that and say, yeah, I'm going to get down to that? But I don't. I sit in a room. I play the video game. I order Uber Eats. I'm drinking wine.

I might be smoking some weed that really kind of enhanced my whole appetite to eat more and more. I got enough money. I got enough money to tell people to shut the fuck up when I'm doing what I'm doing Because I'm me. Mm-hmm. So now what now you can't get your shit, right? Now you you trying to figure out man. Why am I still hurting man? Cuz you lazy you supposed to do three workouts today. You did one and you sat back and said I'm gonna go tomorrow Because Because the big brothers are gone. There's no more big

brothers. No more is it's all you have to do. You just have to do just enough just to get by now, but like, you know, I don't have to play. I don't have to do anything. I could just, you know, go out here play a couple of 510 games show my skills and get a highlight tape and then they're going to rock that with that bag, but but this this let's let's go back to when we were 19. Like, let's not, like, we're talking from where we are now.

But it's a new day, too, Gil. We can't go back in time and say it's the same. No, no, no. We can go back to be 19. We can go back and be 19 with money in our pocket. Okay. Right? You couldn't tell us shit.

Right. So you couldn't tell us shit. No, you couldn't. Like, you couldn't to the point where, okay, listen. Before you got your bag, you told the world where you was at. I'm in the gym. But what I'm saying is you're trying to tell a 19-year-old kid to be on a diet so he can lose weight.

That goes against everything of being 19. Because you got to remember. Why would you draft him? 19. You have to. Like, you got to remember. Now, imagine being 19, right? And they're saying get down to 245.

That's 40 pounds you got to lose during a season. So what are you doing after practice? Running 5, 10 miles every single day? That becomes miserable to you. That's not basketball to you. That's 22 though. So put your but what I'm saying is that's not that's not basketball to you anymore. That becomes a prison. It is though because Sean May had to do the same thing in Carolina. He was overweight. He wasn't

overweight in in college. He was fine in college. Nope and they put him on a weight restrict in our last year. Mm hmm. Sean was on a two different diets. He had to run every day. How did it work? We won the championship. I mean, how did it work for the rest of his career? I don't know about that. He started. He went back to being because he's like, because he was lazy. But when we needed him to be top tier, and he answered that call. He showed up in 2020, like 20 points, 20 rebounds, 30 and 20. Sheldon Williams putting on his head like he showed up in 2020 like 20 points 20 rebounds 30 and 20

Sheldon Williams putting on his head like he showed up, but I said this to I said the wood Zion's natural body. He can't touch a weight room. I said the reason he can't touch a rate room because if he has football genetics into him, it's too much once he hits a NBA workout in lifting. He's going to blow just it. He's not going to be fat. He's just going to is going to be muscle. Like we seen what he looked like in high school that

senior year to his first year at Duke. Like wait, what is this? Anthony Mason because yeah, because he got in that weight room. He got in a professional weight room and he you can see the explosion all and I'm like if he gets to the next level and he has an NBA weightlifting program and all the time in the world that's going to turn into that's going to be bad yes yes you know what I mean so it's yes but that's that's that's something that he's going to have to really understand that's why I said he needs more of the secrets during the season where you know before you go to cities, get on a treadmill a little bit.

You know what I mean? You can't eat on the plane. I think we're giving too much excuses. No, it's not excuses. That's what I'm saying too. It's a secret. It's a secret. Yes.

It's a secret. At 19, I couldn't do that. We didn't have to worry about that. Yeah, but at 19, I couldn't even do that. Like Scott Skiles, like are you, like seriously? Like, like, like, like, Kirk Thomas, Jerry Stackhouse, like Luke Ritenour, like these vets, it's your vets, man. It's the people that's around you that's supposed to hold you

accountable. Like, if you're the number one pick and you're supposed to be this guy and you want greatness, then you need to do this. Like, why is it always just like, oh, you know, this and this? Like, man, fuck that. Like, bro, I had no excuses. I had to get in there every day, do what I had to do. After 55, the next day, back in the gym.

Get to it. But i'm saying we're trying to pretend that because he's not losing weight he's not doing that he is doing that right but when you gotta remember after i did 10 miles when he goes home and eats 15 burgers or 5 burgers everything he did just went out the way out No one's going to come in here and make you be great. You got to take it upon yourself to say, look, I'm a little chubby. I'm a little girthy. Need to get in the weight room a little bit more. Maybe the morning session that I do, stretching and this thing.

Let me go back and try to tone this up. Let me ask the coaches how many more sprints I can run. Can I get some more movement in the offense? Let me do what I need to do for the accountability sake. No, but that's what's going on. Because we need you on the court, so we need you. You ain't doing something. And Zion's 22, so, you know, 19-year-old kid.

When did Kevin Love change his body? Kevin changed his body, so I was going to use that as an example. Yeah. Because at UCLA, Kevin was a big boy. I want to say his first couple years. No, not his first couple years. First year, he was with me. He was my rook. He was my rook. Because the UCLA Kevin was a big boy. I want to say his first couple years. No, not his first couple years. First year he was with me. He was my rook.

He was my rook. He was flat-footed. Yeah. Cinder block feet. Yeah. And you went to over that. I didn't see him in Pride Cleveland. Yeah.

See, being around Brown. No, it was right before. Right before. The 30-30. The 30-30 game is when he was trimmed. He was trimming up. Yeah, he had to do it. That's what I'm saying.

Lumberjack beer. Mike Miller. Mike Miller came in as a chubby little white boy, right? When I got him in Washington, motherfucker looked like Brad Pitt. Abs everywhere. Like, how's that? Right? So, you know what I mean?

Like, he hasn't been in the league long enough to really understand. You got to remember, college, what you're used to in college is what you're different in the NBA. How long have you had you? How many years are you going to give him? No, no, no, no, no. How many? You need 10 years? We take Kevin Garnett away from you.

You're a different person. Absolutely. Okay. But those are two years I had that I had a vet. Like he said. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. So you learned from him. I did.

Right? We take him away from you. You're finding out for yourself. Man, I don't know. What the fuck? That's what I'm saying. You're finding out for yourself. And he didn't have that.

You know what I mean? Ain't the coach that? No. CJ McCullough? Oh, because, yeah. So I'm supposed to eat the same thing CJ's eating, right? No, JJ said he came. JJ was one of the guys.

JJ really was. I don't want to listen to JJ. You don't want to listen to him. I want to listen to someone I know I can see. He went to Duke, though. He was at Duke. He's at Duke. He looked like Coach K.

So it's like. I want to listen to someone who has the same problem as me. Some skinny dude who got abs. You don't have my problem. You can eat anything you want. You don't have to worry about that. I eat two burgers, I gain five fucking pounds. So we can't bring... It's taking me 10 miles to get this shit off. You don't got my problem.

We can't bring Oliver Miller in. No. No, but you can call. Who? You can call. You can call Antoine Walker? You can call anybody. I can look at a body and say, hey, Mello, can somebody get the phone on me? Hey, what are you eating during the season?

What is your diet? Kyle Lowry. Like, yes. We have these players. But look, their diets are still ongoing. Still going on. They're having real trouble. They're having real trouble getting that weight off.

Kevin Love. Like, you shredded down your third year. What did you do? Like, I need, like, because I'm dying, and this shit ain't going off. How easy were you talking about, because this is, I think, a lot of people don't realize just how much food is around, from the plane to the hotel. There's a lot of food. You know what I mean?

Like, I spent no money on food. I think about it, I spent no money on food. Anything you want, too. This is a real story. Look at my pictures in Orlando. I weigh, I'm lighter than I was when I was in Orlando. Because we lifted, they had, oh my God. Oh yeah, we had breakfast.

They had breakfast, they had lunch, they had pregame, and they had, after you get off the game, they had dinner. So you didn't have to spend a dollar. I was walking with plates, right? Yeah. And I'm sitting there looking at a picture and I can see all edges. Like I'm in shape

but I can see it. I can see the weight. You can see it. I was 234 in Orlando. All my wizard years, I'm 208, 210. 208, 210. I remember I got the 221s and I freaked out.

Right? Like I had like, you know, count my calories. How am I? And I realized I'm drinking four Gatorades a game. All that sugar and shit. Because I'm not burning it off. You know, you got to remember in a game you, in a game, you

probably ran 1.6 miles. Maybe. For sure. Easy. That's a G you probably ran 1.6 miles. Maybe for sure. Right? Sure. Easy. That's a Gatorade one. I'm drinking three. So I'm gaining weight during the season not realizing it. You know, maybe just because of the habit. So, you know, I mean like whatever he's doing in the summer. Okay, cool. It's not the summer. You have to worry about with him. It's gonna be that season where you're not running as much. You're playing games. You're flying. You're getting in late. worry about with him. It's going to be that season where you're not running as much. You're playing games.

You're flying. You're getting in late. You're eating late. That's where, you know. But get your ass up and go to the weight room and run. Get your ass up. Get your ass up. But that's what, he don't have that.

He don't have what you're saying. He got it in here. No. Get your ass up and run. He needs you to say that. No, he need him to say it in his little head. You don't know that yet. And get your little ass up. You don't know that yet.

It's not being taught. It's not being taught. Hey, Zion, if you listening, I'm telling you, you don't want to wait till it's too late. You don't want to wait till it's too late to get your ass up and run. You don't want to wait till it's like, oh, I should have. That's even against it, because he has a hamstring

and a foot. He can't ride. Get your ass up and do the motorbike, nigga. Get them on. You got the turkey arms. I mean, it's other things. They got so much stuff now. Now.

Like, they have so much stuff now. Do some neck exercises. You can do that. Just keep going. Just go. We good. Just go. All right, let's do it.

No, there was another one. Oh, you want me to ask? Yes. Gil, this is your show. You pay the bill. You feed my children. So do you think that Zion can live up to expectations? No.

And when you say no, why do you say that? Because he, one, is he was supposed to be the next LeBron, right? And was it fourth year? He doesn't have the accolades as LeBron did. So he can't be, no matter what he does going forward, he can't be the next LeBron. So that means we have to push him down now. You can't, no matter what you do going forward, you can't be the next LeBron because you you

already wasted four years of your career. So now it's who is the next so you can't be the next LeBron and that's obviously you know, the pinnacle of where you want to be but what level can you get to do you think now? Well, Sean, Sean Kemp Charles Barkley, you know, it's all the Sean. That's not that's it. Some people are here. It's oh, here go Gil Hayden, whatever. Like, shit, if somebody told me I could be Charles Barkley, and that's what my feeling could be, I'm going to say.

You might want to listen to us, not motherfuckers at ESPN. Because, look, ESPN is going to have him failing. They're not even going to give him another goal post. We're giving him a goal post. Like, hold on. This is where they put you where they shouldn't have done it in the first place. Absolutely. They should like it's like what they do to young athletes. They give you the highest achievement to

try to reach when we should say, hey, all right, listen coming into the league. He is the next, you know, Charles Barkley, Sean Kim, let him hit those markers first. Then you address the next one. But but now you put them up here where you already gave him the F. Right and say, wait, hold on. That was them. That's not us. We're players. We really understand that. You can't be that. It's just impossible now. So here's the

next goalpost, you know, you got a car Malone. You have, you know, I mean you have you have other tears that you can make and have a Hall of Fame career. So, you know, it's to have a great because he says he I think he's a he's a higher tier than Zeebo. No, he's way more athletic. Yeah, that's right now. So that's why I said, you know, right now you're talking about, you know, that second that that second third tier of, you know, shot, Charles Barkley Sean camp. Yeah, you know, if he gets to them, then, you know, I'm shot Charles Barkley Sean camp. Yeah,

you know, if he gets to them, then you know, we try to find somebody else that's above them that he can wiggle Johnson, you know, you know, but that's what I'm going to shoot it a little bit. But that's what I mean. So he has, you know, next group of people that he can, you know, you know, go forward and try to okay. I mean, I think when you explain, I think that makes sense for me. It's always, you know, you know, go forward and try to okay. I mean, I think when you explain it, I think that makes sense for me. It's always, you know, I'm very supportive and defensively yourself.

When I see people like, oh, Gil's hating or whatever. It's like now I'm giving you a realistic goal. Y'all were hating when y'all said he could be LeBron without letting that man even play a game yet, letting them get to that level. First of all, these fans don't know shit about basketball. I don't know shit about no guy. You know, so so just this is put that in perspective first. Like, we can't be out here trying to prove them.

Oh, I feel them. But that's what we try to do. And we hurt ourselves. Yeah. Trying to figure out like, like, like, think about like the Vince Carter's and the Tracy McGrady's, you know, you throw these tags on them. Like you throw a tag on them that like like you're making it impossible. Like especially with the Jordan thing. Like they don't want to

tell us Jordan was considered the greatest basketball player of all times. By his third championship, right? Yeah, he's only at that point. He only had about 25,000 points. If that and you coined him the best player ever. So it didn't even have nothing to do with the other three championships. So let's stop pretending. Oh, Jordan got six championships you you named him the most the best fucking player on the planet

that ever lived on his third championship shit on his second championship shit the first time he won the first championship you were just waiting for a championship to name him the best player that ever walked this planet yeah so let's stop pretending that any of it actually mattered after he got the six one then it was finally Oh, man, like he got that sick, but it was after one You know number one soon as he won the first one greatest man ever played his game cream I do Jabbar was mad at that point. Yeah Kareem was mad in 92

He needs 20,000 points to catch me and you named him number one. Let's just be honest with it. Got no rebounds. So now let's hit our last segment. Y'all heard of OnlyFans, but we got MostlyFans because we got a lot of fans, but we got a lot of haters as well. So I'm going to go around. I'm going to ask you, what's your most embarrassing basketball moment?'m gonna ask you which which is your most embarrassing basketball moment.

Brandon go first. What's your most embarrassing basketball moment? My most embarrassing basketball moment. Like when I was just like just anything silly or just somebody in the game. Whatever. I think man. Whatever happened to you like. Man, I think when Derrick Rose hit the game winner on me and my son was at the game. Courtside. And that's what he was doing to MVP. Like he was on his MVP run. Uh was in Milwaukee. I played great D I'm there hand there. Everything hit the shot. I just walked right past my son. Just like, just so embarrassed. Like,

look at your dad. Like, I'm your father. God. I was so hyped to have him there. I was so hyped. My son right in the air. You see pops. Derrick Rose, now you know that. You fucking up. He said, look past my son. You fucking up.

He's not in it. He over there waving the thing. The goddamn sign on my goddamn face. Rashad, what's your most embarrassing basketball moment? And you talking about like on the court? You can give me whatever whatever you got. Man, it had to be. I was I was getting I wasn't getting no calls on the court and I was trying to figure out what the rest what they was on.

And I was taking the ball out. And the ref that I was having problems with, he looked over to me. He was about to hand me the ball. He said, you know, I seen you on TV last night with the Keeping Up with the Kardashians. Why you do that girl like that? I said, man, is that why you ain't giving me no calls, man? Why you ain't giving me no calls, man? And it was just like, that was a moment of like, ah, shit, what did I get myself into? You know

what I'm saying? I was so like, is this how it's gonna be? I ain't really like that shit. I ain't like that shit. All right, girl, I'm a little scared to ask you because I don't know what it's gonna be, I really like that. I go. I'm a little scared to ask you because I don't know what it's going to be, but I'm going to do it. Girls Arena. Wish your most embarrassing basketball. So it was an off court thing that happened on court. So I was manscaping

trying to be all cute manscape it and a razy rust, a rusted razor. So I got these like black kilos on the side. Right. So the team doctor gave me some little medicine to put on the sides to burn them off. It's like in three days they'll burn off. Well, he said, just dab it on. So I, you know, I, you know, did one of these joints, right?

Like some cocoa butter. Yeah. Three days, three days later, bro. All burnt. Like all this, all the flesh was rubbed. All, I mean, all flesh, all pink, red. Like it was, it was bad. So we're playing the Clippers, right?

We're playing the Clippers. So, so I'm trying to figure out how to not feel this pain, like trying to run. So I decided, OK, got my tights on. And I got my tights. I put baby powder. Like, I'm just like powder. I'm trying to like cool it down.

Got the baby powder. Pop, pop, pop, pop. You didn't go seek medical attention at all. You just. No, the medical attention I seek got me this problem. So you was like, fuck them. Fuck them. I got them all over me.

Baby powder is loose. So I put baby powder, right? So like, so then I seen like baby powder like seeping through, so I said, oh, shit. So what I did is got the, what's the name, tape? The tape we do. Yeah. So I put the tape around the thigh.

Boop, boop, boop. Good. In the game. In the game and you know, I guess once you start sweating, start seeping. So the baby powder is seeping on. White shit. Yeah. So something happened. All you see was Hey man, they had to stop the game, change the tights and all of them baby powders slipping everybody. You doing the Lebron one? I hit the Lebron.

Oh my God. Swear to God, man. That was the most embarrassing thing ever, man. Just imagine you get hit and just white stuff just. This baby powder all over the locker room. All over. This baby powder everywhere over the locker room. All over. Baby powder everywhere in the locker room. Yeah.

They got baby powder everywhere. That's why you dumping that. Yeah, I was dumping it. If it was the 80s, they would have thought some other shit going on. Yeah, no, serious. No, dead ass serious. But everybody was slipping on the floor.

It was just, because everybody was like, oh, man, it's kind of slippery. Everybody doing one of these, I'm like. The baby powder's leaking. Did they ever find out it was you or? No, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah baby powder's leaking. I'd never find out it was you. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, nah.

Listen, when I got hit and it just. What is Gilbert hiding? Yeah, bro. It was everybody laughing. Oh, everybody laughing, man. I'm so embarrassed, bro. Because now you got to explain, why would you have baby powder in you? Yeah, man.

It was burnt off, man. Where did you get the razor at? Girl. My girl. You know, you kind of keep it was burnt off, man. I didn't know. Where you get the razor at? Girl, my girl, you know, you gotta keep it in the shower. Oh, oh, oh, you use it. Oh, yeah. You don't know how old them shits be. Boy, excuse me? No.

Why you don't live with me? No. Why you get your own shower, man? No, you got to have your own razor. No. Get your own shower, man. Stop trying to be what you're. No, no. That's what you meant by manscaping, huh? Yeah, no, because, you know,ower, man. No. Don't shower, man. Stop trying to be what you're...

No, no. That's what you meant by manscaping, huh? Yeah, no, because, you know, come on, we know. They say, get rid of all the hair. You look bigger. And I, oh, I'm about to gain a few inches. About to gain a few inches. That's why you did this thing.

Yeah, I learned the wrong way. Oh, nigga. Over there listening to the Belmont team. Yeah, man, you shaved it off. You got the inches. The man in the mirror trying to see extra inches. Let me see. Let me see.

Let me see. Let me see. Let me see. Let me see. Let me see. Let me see. Let me see. Oh, nigga. Over there listening to the dumbass TV. Yeah, man, you shake it off. You got to get you, though. Man in the mirror trying to see extra inches. Let me see if this here works. That's our show for the week.

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