Gil's Arena - Gilbert Arenas GETS REAL On NBA Locker Room Dynamics

Episode Date: August 3, 2023

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We had a bigger studio audience on Tuesday. I'm just going to point that out. People get lazy as the week goes on. Not clapping as hard. Not bringing it. But we hard, not breaking it. But we always gonna break it. Everybody's, you know, we're heading out. We're going to Rose, so...

Yeah, we're doing... We can't say just yet, just in case he canceled on us, but we gotta... If he can't, I'm whooping his ass. We locked in. We locked in? We gonna jump him. We gonna jump him. We gonna jump him.

Just jump him. Just jump him. Put your dad get a pass cuz he'll let you Welcome back to gills really presented my underdog fantasy join as always with Gilbert arenas. Good what you rockin today? Let me some type of easy There's some type of easy. I don't know. He's still us to keep him the easy alive Keep him alive. Yeah, you're Martin back back on the job. Did y'all's on different side yesterday. Yeah, keep it moving I just said we won't see you This is your normalcy so you got you back there

I thought BJ was gonna be here though. I Thought they're cooking with famous. Well, I thought he was gonna be here and in the stuff. Yes, that's camp That didn't invite us. No, he did Kind of shit you all. Say, where the gentlemen's cutting in? We got Rashad McKenzie's always. Always, always. T-shirt game always on point.

You know how we do. Yeah, it's my new book, man. When's it dropping? On my birthdays, 9-25. Pre-order now, right? Pre-order now, man. Get your book. You know what I'm saying?

We just got you on Twitter, so. 9-25, that's Virgo? Libra. Oh, you just jumped. It's your life story, bro, or you just... Nah, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just know what I'm saying we just got you on twitter so 925 that's Virgo Libra oh yeah you just jumped it's your life story bro you just nah nah just a survival guy just some I wrote up when I was through that COVID shit

you was in the pens yeah yeah I was locked up when I was locked up they wouldn't let us out I was bored and I was like like, let me put some manifestation shit together. I'm a spiritual journey shit, you know, the whole crown shit. You know, how to come up from this mentality, basically. You know what I'm saying? From a mentality of a nigga that don't want to be accountable. Motherfuckers who, you know, always blaming people to motherfuckers who take responsibility for their actions and shit. You know what I'm saying?

That type of shit. Pre-orders available. You can available going Rashad's IG page You just join Twitter to we're gonna get them Twitter numbers up everybody in the chat. I'm a three game followers I got three five three. That's where you start Use my third Tweet I don't tweet. You don't tweet? I don't. No. Get you in trouble. Get you in trouble. No, I'm serious.

No, thank you. Listen, I was, I remember our lockout was 2010. Uh-huh. Right? And I'm on Twitter. Mm-hmm. And I'm like, oh, shit. Since the NBA don't control us, they can't find me.

Mm-hmm. You thought it was a lie? They lied. I was wrecked. I had every group that you can think of LBG oh yeah, especially Strippers I miss triplets like I there was unions. Yeah, I said some shit listen to war All haters to catch full-blown boy. Listen to I was like that

log out Twitter fingers No, thank you. Yeah, they had to find me this NBA find me 50 grand every time How you finding me? I don't even might even work for y'all not even a pen like that. We gotta do something. Yeah Yeah, I don't even listen, bro. I can't even lie. I don't even know the password to it Get the ugly stripper you come out. I was only stripper Union. Yeah, I said they all look, they all need to be in kittles. Damn, bro. It was rough. I just came from Miami, you know, like. It's different. It was Memorial Day weekend, and all the strippers from every other city was at King of Diamonds.

And I was like, oh, they ugly. Oh, nah. Some of y'all just shouldn't even be here. There shouldn't be no line. There should just be a dog came out of this motherfucker. Just go in there and got fined. Got fined. Ain't nobody called down yet. Man, where the dog catches at? Shit. Without incriminating yourself,

what's the wildest thing you ever did on Twitter? Was it the blind date? Blind date. I think I ruined two comedians' careers. Like, ever since that day, they ain't popped. Wow. Yeah. I said, why don't you just take my jokes and go in here?

I should write for you, because you ain't funny. Wow. That was it. I was ruining lives there. Yeah. I ain't there for that. I ain't there to ruin nobody's lives. I'm just watching.

I'm just watching. We're uplifted. I was unfiltered. It was none of your... How you going... I gots no job. Gots no job. They fined me off. I'm like, ah, fuck this. I got a hundred... Wait, lockout, you still getting fined? I got fined, bro. The lockout. Yeah. They was fining me. 2011. It's like when you get on a team, we taking out your check. Like, I don't want to play it

I don't want to play you don't find me They said they had a they said they had a special person just watching my Twitter feed And I remember I wrote I said what kind of man? I said what kind of man you got me how do you sleep at night telling your wife your job is to watch? How you getting pussy Tom are you you know what your job? Yeah, I watch you bring this Twitter About the piss man Like yo, how you live with yourself watching other man dicks come on man What you doing like real like what type of grown man sign up to watch I'm saying you look like just

You'll certify Peter games Meet watching day Team the team meat watch man. I got another appointment. I got another point They just stand there like you guys something they won't do it. Hey yo, yeah Yo, chill. Dude. Yo, chill. Damn. I like y'all with that Twitter. Hey, you know what's funny though? That person we do try to make feel little as muck. Yes.

Like we try to make him feel as low as possible. Absolutely. Just because. Yeah. We mad we got to do the test, so we try to make him feel as low as possible. Like yo, this is your job, bro? This is your job, dawg. I'm just watching ding-a-lings all day. Just ding-a-lings, just city after city, just all year long.

Just knock, knock, knock. Can I see it? Pull it out. That's how I act when the TSA agents, when they try to, I say, listen, man. You ain't got no other motherfucking assignment to do. You got to pat niggas down. Relax, my nigga. We just piss people off for no reason.

So Cliff Robinson called me one day. Cliff was like, Ken, what did you say to him? I told him, man, don't be calling my motherfucking phone so early. I'm trying to watch my dick, man. I'm pissing and shit. Cliff said, Ken, you please don't talk to the man that way. I was like, listen, man. That's when Cliff was at the NBA.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The niggas used to be mad at us. Cliff and Dirt, man. Them cool as a mother. Cliff and Dirt. Cliff and Dirt was for me. Dirt, Men of Phil. Cliff called me like, hey, man, you can't.

Please don't listen. What you say to him? He called. I get the man was shaking on the phone. That's when he was in the drug program. We got three fucking visits a month, nigga. Just leave me alone, nigga. Come on, man. Just give me the box. Let me go up in here. What? Yeah, come on. Just let one nigga pee for all of us

All I pee maybe we all doing good that was the move at certain points back in the night and they got more elaborate No, I remember something and I had some teammates ahead the peonazer Just Oh, yeah My man Just piss You just walking around with a bag of piss and fake ding-a-ling nigga Yeah, I had one on my New do you talk a lot right? I had dudes coming to Denver We doing the game. Hey, can you got some of them drinks bro? Like I heard you guys

Listen, I'm like, who are you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. How do you know me, for one? And why are you asking me for this? Who told you this? Yeah, yeah. During the game. You was the, listen.

Yeah. That's how I got my, I learned how to get the drink. Because it was like, we left Denver one time. And nigga was Tricky Davis. Yeah. We in Denver. He knew all the spots in Denver. And I remember one night, we had a party with you and your Denver. He knew all the spots in Denver.

And I remember one night we had a party with you and your homies at one of the spots. But after that, we went to the game that next day, and Tricky had a motherfucking whole little drink. I'm like, what the fuck is this? He's like, oh, yeah, you got to take this. I said, what are you... He said, oh, yeah, Kmart. Kmart, Kmart, Kmart. So they whole team was like...

But the thing is, Kmart, Kmart. So they hold me was like eight whole days. But the thing is, so I only did like use the drinks in the preseason. Like to clean my system. I like during the season, like I was one of the dudes who like people just wonder like, like this dude so mentally strong because I'm go all summer. Labor Day was my last. I just stopped, right?

And I need to clean my system up because they can come and train. We don't know when they come. So I'm cleaning my system up before the season because I didn't smoke during the season at all. Like once the ball was going, like I stopped because I know me. Like once the broke stove, once you crank that train up, it's going down here with no break. You know what I'm saying? So I know me. So I didn't smoke during that train up. It's going down here with no break Yeah, no, I know me so I didn't smoke during the season

I'm saying I wish I would have instead of taking anti-inflammatory shit all the time. That's another story. But yeah It was coming like doing could I because the company was in Colorado? He had to plug he was Coming in asking me for a drink to clean the piss. I'm like nigga. Who are you? Why do how I don't know you like that to give you nothing, bro I'll give to somebody else they might can supply you but I don't know you know You ain't finna go tell nobody I gave you shit Shake kept many careers alive college cuz y'all know tournament you failed you had to you were suspended for you. Oh, yeah circumventing

Every fucking I just smoked couch. I didn't smoked after I got drafted Like I was a million when I first started Y'all so, you know you growing up you hear somebody smoking dope right you think they Like they smoking crack or something, right? They popped the drug test on us at Cincinnati, right? And a few dudes on the team, like six, seven dudes failed the test. Hugs is livid, right? So he called a team meeting.

He come to that motherfucker, he, you motherfuckers want to smoke dope? I'm like, which one of you motherfuckers smoking crack, man? Yo, that's where all the back of my brain go. Because I'm from the hood.

You here smoking dope. You dipping cigarettes in crack. You doing something that you... He said, y'all motherfuckers want to smoke dope?

I was like, who in here smoking crack, man? Man, somebody in here crack-headed. Crack-ish. Crack-ish, nigga. He ain't a crack-head. Speaking of crack, here's what's cracking today.

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I saw something the other day. I don't know if it was true or not. We were like top five basketball podcasts at one point. Then I refreshed and we disappeared. So I don't know. Damn. That fast? It was your computer. It was the Wi-Fi. Yeah, it was the Wi-Fi. It was the Jackie Wi-Fi. Mark R's in the neighborhood. Yeah. But let's get into it. So the proverbial legend that is Rasheed Wallace was on his podcast. It's called That's What She Says, presented by Underdog Fantasy. Whoop, whoop.

Oh. And he told a great story about a special gift he got for his teammates after the Pistons won the championship in 2004. So I ordered these, I would say, probably about two weeks after we won the title. Okay. And they came about a month and a half later. I ordered one for everybody, like, you know, our GM, assistant GM, trainers, a couple of the media guys, and of course the team. And so it was all in all, I think it was about like 40 something belts. And so they came throughout the summer

and I just sat on them. I went into the locker room and, you know, guys, I hid the belts, guys went through their thing you know their whole routine go out the shoe get take this and that so after um after lb did his little meeting and everything i was like yo you know i got something for y'all i was like jerry i need your help i was like i got something for y'all man that we can go out there with and man we rolled out these bins and i passed everybody a box, and they opened this, and it was the championship belts.

Like, oh, man. It was, hey, you should have seen the jubilation on everyone's face in that locker room, yo. So that's a major flex to be able to wear your finals jersey with the championship belt. Can you, before the clips are,

you said, fuck that team? Yeah, fuck that championship. Be forever? Beef. Beef. We should be beefing with him, too, because he was supposed to be every Thursday. Yeah. Clips are you said you said fuck that team be forever We should be with him took cuz he was supposed to be every Thursday. Yeah, you know enough, but yeah, no see they wouldn't see They stack the deck. I was listen. Let's call it spades, but I was giving them boys fucking hell Detroit okay, that's why they went in gosh. She didn't have enough

That damn it call it what it is. They didn't have enough God damn it Call it what it is They didn't have enough That was a sweet year We just swept them boys The year before man They went and got Yeah I played against Sheed

His only game in Atlanta When he got So he got traded to Atlanta To play one game One game I played against him that game In Atlanta And then he went to Detroit

Yeah man Yeah they stacked him. Yeah, they had to. Trust me. They had to. They had to. They didn't have Chauncey then. Yeah, just.

Chauncey was on that team. Big Shot made a shot. No, listen. We up. He made a shot from like three-quarter court to going overtime. I remember that. Okay, yeah, I remember that. I found out.

There was only like 13 and 15 or 15 and 15 when they made that trade, huh? Something or whatever. I don't know what it was. Yeah, I don't know what they were. They needed that trade when they made it. But whatever it was, yeah, they needed help. They'll tell you. Don't ask Ben, all of them, Corliss, all of them.

You go ask them. Was that what Cliff was before? All of them. Cliff, Corliss, him, all of them. You go ask them. Was that what Cliff was before? All of them. Cliff, Corliss. Hell. First three games of the series, I get a dunk off the tip. Trying to step in and listen, man.

This motherfucker get a dunk today, man. We're going to have a problem. Off the tip. No, no, no. That's how the game's going to go. This is how the game's going to go. This is how the game's going to go. This is how the game's going to go. Off the tip.

Off the tip. Turn around and go out the first person I see. Yeah, what's up? March Madden and shit, nigga. March Madden, for real. We got to point out, too, just a few short weeks after she gave out those belts, it was the malice in the palace. So don't know if there's any correlation Mmm, whatever it may be but

Yeah, what's the best gift a teammate gave you? the ball See that's awesome That's all That ball gave me millions So you know where it was like give me millions of dollars when they gave you that Can't beat that Don't ask me that question. That's the best answer I ever heard. Hey, where we going to go to you, Ned? What's the best gift?

That's the best answer I ever heard. I don't know if you can top that. You can't top that. Team A never gave me shit back then. They never gave me a goddamn thing. Be honest with you. Niggas didn't want to pass the ball either, so it's like, goddamn, nigga.

Hey, listen up, friend. Motherfucker, yeah, I ain't... I ain't do like Secret Center. What is it, White House? Yeah, we did that shit. What is that? Why don't we did this shit mufflers complain this shit? I want to fight everybody man. Why see you guys? We see this shit. Yeah, I gave my fuck this one iPods first came out Mm-hmm I go and get everybody joining got the joint loaded up with the music all that only for everybody needs somebody Had to our dad's complain immediately Went to the music something like man. I went who the fuck said All that only for everybody needs somebody had our dads complain immediately

What to the me says something like man? I went who the fuck said Slap all y'all Anonymously complained about the free. Yeah Yeah, we doing this this way no team or something man. No soon said get my shit back I found out eventually who said it but I boy Yeah, I don't eventually who said it, but boy. Yeah, people, don't do nothing to him, please. Please.

Yeah, boy. Every day, one day. They used to try to talk me off the ledge so much in Denver, dog. Can't just, just, just, just please let him, man. Just don't do nothing, please. So let's ask the other side. I feel like y'all, you know, good dude. You said you gave the iPod. What's the best gift you got a teammate?

The best gift? One made a, one, it wasn't a gift. I mean, shit, it can go either way. He got engaged, and then it broke off, and he was stuck with the ring. So I bought the ring from him. I bought the ring from him, and then I sold the ring for cheaper, so I ended up losing. So he bought the ring for $60,000. I sold it back, got $40,000. Oh, so I ended up losing. So he bought the ring for 60, I sold it back, got 40.

Oh, you're a nice guy. So I gave him 20 grand, basically. Damn, with heartbreak? Yeah. I gotta say, probably the work. Gave my teammates some work. Nah, that's a good-ass present. A good work? Nah, for real.

A good work? Some good work. A good work, loyal, don't call you out? Yeah, yeah, pass her right on off. Hey, man, that ain't gonna lie. That's a good shit. Man, the man was, you know, looking kind of thirsty, man. I'm like, my nigga, you okay, bro? You sure? Look, you know what? I know what you want.

I know what you want. Hey, baby, hey, baby, listen. Go ahead and sit over there next to that nigga over there. Man, listen, that's a good-ass, people don't, that's a good-ass president.

I'm a good teammate, man. You're a good one. Come on, you're a good one? They ain't going to say nothing. They ain't going to speak. They just going to be in the room. Most fuckers are married to work. They done married to work now. You know, most fuckers are gonna be in the most of the married to work They don't marry to work man. No, no, my father's a very to work. Yeah, man to work them

They marry to work in like yo, and then stop talking to you He told us I want you to be a nigga friend don't don't don't even think I passed you to work They get what you're doing. I gave you the lobby. Yes, go You're not my friend She did the move on you get it move on you did the move I told you about the move it was good It's good work. I told you it was good work. Yeah, then if we have a show Tuesday, I'll be very surprised Yeah, they don't know what you work. So we don don't know what the word some people in the chat are very They think they did not they watch Paul Pesci

They got a site they got a site where you can get the work I didn't got a couple do some jobs. So I didn't yeah, I guess That's the good. Yeah, I own the team. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got a couple do some job I put some money. Yeah, that's it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got a couple dudes some jobs like put some money Yeah, that's it. Oh, yeah You know, you're right. Yeah, we was in Denver. Yeah, I got yeah, I'll be story Every story But he earned it. He earned this spot though. So, you know training camp, you know how they already have the prefix and shit So in training camp shit, man, he was a was at least top seven right worked hard did his thing hustled and he got cut so i went

wait hold on how he get cut and coach was like oh yeah we need no no no no we need the best player who is in camp right you know if we're gonna talk about players in camp, he's top seven. So how is he getting cut? I don't give a fuck what you think we need. We need a dude who's going to do what he did. Bring it, play hard, hustle. Like, come on, Eddie. We talk about, you know, fairness.

We talk about bringing hard. This one dude, you ain't never got to say that to. Right. He's like calling back boom got a moment and hey but these two years with us that's fire so so speaking of work so what if so what if your teammates got the ball got to work and the work want to get traded but but but but this is not trade trade request coming on site there a trade deadline oh. Oh some dude. What's the very word now?

You guys oh, yeah, they don't want to let the work go the ball man the word Man, I learned early though like my nigga Rip rip rip Hamilton before he was you know married and all that shit certain niggas had work that was like immaculate work. T. Lou used to have some immaculate work. I got to, got to, because these niggas, this is before the time. Remember the time. This is before.

These are before. These niggas was playboys. These niggas had to work, nigga. So I'm like, hey man,, hey, man, I appreciate the work, you know, passing the work. I'm a young fella. It was 20-something years ago. So I learned how to pass the work without attaching yourself to the work. Leave, don't attach yourself to the work, nigga.

The work is the work. They here to work, nigga. Let them work. Let them work, nigga. Oh, man. Yeah. NBA, listen, that's a whole other segment of just NBA stories. Like, you know, the shit I used to hear that never,

I used to hear like, should they be waiting in the lobby? Early on my rookie year, I get, where they at? Where they at? That's the first thing we all did. Where they at? We're in the lobby. Nobody in this lobby, man. We in the wrong lobby.

Nobody in the lobby. We in the wrong lobby. Where they at? Nobody. The first time I seen it, like, come into, like, true, my rookie year, like, all-star weekend was in D.C. Yeah. And that whole, like, people had bussed, literally, so they had bussed people in, bruh. I was like, they were literally in the lobby.

I was like, oh, my. Oh, my. Not usually in the lobby. It's just someone else's girl. Yeah, absolutely. They're just waiting at the bar. Yeah, ain't nobody just at the bar. Six random chicks waiting on you to come down there to get a drink.

Man, I was hot when I got to the NBA. What? That's not true. With his lava, nobody's sitting looking for me, man. Not at all. Hey, we got to give some advice to these young fellas, though. We're here. Don't leave your work unattended.

Oh, you little shit. Do not ever leave your work unattended. They would get towed away. I'm just saying, there's a lot of snipers out here, and they got the wandering eyes and looking looking never leave your words to call them Work these back in today Why you need good work? Already passed the test already passed

She was left around millions man. I look 200,000. She ain't worried about that Boy they go man Pete Pete Pierce man, I'll never forget this story. This nigga, Al Jefferson, him was telling us. Hey, another one. When we in a... That's the Statue of Libertation. No, man, look, we chilling in Minnesota, and he's like, man, we got stories about how niggas used to walk in the room and be like, man, we had to work in there. And he'll come in the room

and say, which one of y'all bitches want to fuck with a 200 million a year nigga? I know who that is. I know who that's from. I'm like, yo. You can't beat that. Two of the work got up.

I'm going. I'm going. I'm going, I'm going to go. I'm going, I'm going. You can't ever fault the work for being knowledgeable. Hey, man, listen. It's one of them things where when you know the work, you got the work. It's the NBA, man. It's a brotherhood, man. These niggas ain't exempt from throwing the names out there.

Y'all niggas, you secure, right? You niggas. You tough. You tough, right? You tough. There's going to be no chill after dark. You tough. names out there y'all niggas you secure right you tough you tough right you don't be no chill after dark tough we do have no chill after we are negotiating underdog fantasy we got some no chill after dark that'll be coming soon a little bit more what NC 17 is he 17 you're gonna have to be 21 for that 21 oh yeah you know that's your mom you got a permission slip have some of the old working here tell a war stores

Funny though ain't that basketball wise no No, they think they wives not realizing come on the day to work. Damn. Come on y'all like you be looking at a TV like It's a damn shame You. You. I knew the way. You. I knew you. It's a small community, very tight knit. What? I don't know what y'all scared of. Shit, it's YouTube, man. Fuck this dumb shit.

It's YouTube on a Thursday, middle of the summer. We appreciate you, everybody who's locked in with us. We know y'all ain't got shit to do either. Now, we can make up shit to talk about, but we're going to talk about some real life. Hope you can learn to apply this to your regular life. If you some work, you some work, goddammit. I used to be the work. I used to be the work.

Hey, bitch, what's up? I'm working too. What's up? What you need? Working? Oh, my lord. Oh, my goodness. All right.

But let's move on. Please. I know the chat is entertaining and interesting. They want to know more about the work. No. If you have work-related questions, drop them into the post. We will ask them at the end of the show. Work-related questions.

That's hilarious. If you or someone you know is a work thief, it's time to come clean. Get right with God. Stealing the work. Don't be stingy. Don't be a work stealer. It's like a potluck. You come to the potluck, you got to bring some shit.

Don't just show up and eat everything. You can't just eat everything. You stare at the steel. People do that shit. For real, bro. You need to bring shit. Who you bring? You just throw it out by yourself?

You need to bring utensils. Can't have my work. But let's move. Let's talk about some serious shit. So, serious as we can. Steph Curry did an interview with a guy named, I don't know if you know him. He's a guy named, I don't know if you know him. He's a guy named, I don't know if you know him. He's a guy named, I don't know if you know him. He's a guy named, I don't know if you know him. He's a guy named, I don't know if you know him. He's a guy named, I don't know if you know him. Throw it up by yourself? You need to bring utensils. You can't have my work. But let's move.

Let's talk about some serious shit. So, serious as we can. Steph Curry did an interview with Marcus Thompson of The Athletic recently to talk about the sacrifices that come with being on a winning team. So, I'm going to read the quotes for you guys. I don't really have a step for it, so I'm going to read them normal. The biggest thing is look at teams that have won. You realize that there is a certain way about how you show up on a nightly basis. Everybody's important.

Everybody is valuable. It's not going to look pretty for the majority of the year for some guys. Some are going to be in and out of the rotation. Guys are going to be asked to do things they may not all the way vibe with, how they see themselves. You've got your core that's going to figure out how to stay at a certain level. All those things are about winning. We had a lot of narratives around the team

that have been a little bit distracted to that, but that's all it is. It's not about anything other than winning. Oh, look at these nice graphic bars and shit. That's a lot of words on that motherfucker. That's a lot of words on there. So first question I ask you, how difficult is it to control egos in an NBA locker room?

I mean, I went to the finals twice, so you would know. Yeah. I don't think it's, personally, I don't think it's difficult if you know the group, if you know your locker room, if you know the guys who you going into battle with. Yeah, I don't. And it's like a lot of things, man, it's self-evaluating, man. Like we was talking about before the show, man, it's self-evaluating.

Looking in the mirror, man, like realize what's important. He's absolutely correct. It ain't always be pretty, you know what I'm saying? It ain't always go some guy's way. But when your number call, you got to be ready. And in knowing that and not not letting to why he playing, I should be playing creepy. And you know, I'm saying, but just being ready when this when the time is called, but just I'm, I'm a firm believer in what Bill Belichick always preached. Do your job.

You know what I'm saying? Everybody do their job, and it's easy for your ego to be, you know what I'm saying, checked if you're doing your job. Like, that's, it's that plain and simple. You know what I'm saying? You're not trying to be something you're not. Just come in and do your job, man. And I think if you do that, then your ego is checked at the door.

You know what I'm saying? So obviously Warriors had that situation with Jordan Poole last year. One of their more major distractions. But just looking at it from Poole's standpoint, you signed that contract. You're making $30-plus million a year now. Yeah. Obviously you're going to feel a certain way about yourself walking back into that locker room.

So did you ever have to deal with guys who weren't making a lot of bread? And Gil, you could probably speak to this too. First couple years not making a lot of bread, now you signed that big deal. Of course, shit, y'all giving me the money, I think I'm that level of player now. Yeah. But let me just piggyback on, I'll let you speak, but let's piggyback on like, Gil said we made it to the finals. So we had three guys averaging basically 17.

Like 16 is some change. You know what I'm saying? We knew J.K. was the name and he was making all the money, but he didn't have no ego, so it was about winning. You know what I'm saying? We all showed up and we played hard as hell

all the time. You know what I'm saying? And his ego was checked at the door, so it was easy for me going, I'm in my second year. RJ a rookie. Kerry been around, but he come off injury, so it's easy to have

I'm saying in our situation ego check at the door you know I'm saying. We make to the West Conference finals with the Nuggets it's easy to get that far if we I'm saying because we had guys that knew what their role was and what was important and you show up and do your job. You know what I'm saying? But, to you. Yeah, I mean, you know, I was a rookie second year player in Washington. I mean, in Golden State and Antoine was the man, right? Two years later, I'm in Washington, he's getting traded there.

So you would have thought that, like, there was going to be this tussle. And it was like, nah. But at the end of the day, you're the captain, Twan. I'm just a face. It ain't no, you know what I mean? So I'm still listening to whatever you command, but I'm going to do my thing. So it was easier for me. But when it comes to personalities, it's if you understand everyone's personality and you're paying attention to

the personality to see what makes them tick, how they move, and you just let them do them, on the court becomes easier, right? It's usually like in a locker room, like, you know, certain people going to do shit that they might not vibe with you, but it helps them vibe. Like I know when like some dudes had to go to the club the night before. That was their thing. Right? Like, I can't sit there like, oh, y'all about, damn, man, we played. That's his thing.

If I need him to play well, he need to do his thing. So there's things that you let slide for that person to really, you know, like like function inside of this this atmosphere So it's really just understanding people Say like Minnesota there was this dynamic O4 kg never made it to the was it Western Conference mm-hmm this when he had salmon spree So when they didn't re-up he was upset because they had their egos checked at the door. He really fucked with them niggas, and they really fucked with him.

So it kind of demoralized him when they had to leave, but he still had Wally, right? This was a funny-ass story because this is when I first seen egos clash. That's why Wally got traded. His ticket was taking the ball into his hands. Fourth quarters, he always wanted to take the last shot, but ticket wasn't the last shot taker, right? So he was always depending on Spree or Sam to do that. So when he lost that, Wally felt like he was next up.

And ticket was like, man, fuck you, nigga. Straight up, fuck you, nigga. So we came in the locker room one time, and Wally chose to voice his opinion. Ticket, you ain't the only one that can shoot. I can shoot, too. We need to spread the ball out. And Ticket stood up, man. This was one of them times where he was like, I'm about to fuck you up type shit. But Rex Chapman was one of our special guys in the front office, and he kind of demoralized and shit. But we could see that the egos was Wally wanted the ball and crunch time to take off that pressure, and Ticket didn't fucking allow that. So then we ended up bringing in Ricky Davis, Mark Blunt, and Marcus Banks for Wally.

Ticket thought that was going to be better. Ricky Davis was the nigga that partied. He needed to go do his thing, and Ticket wasn't that dude that was reliable on niggas like that. So they clashed, and it was like, he goes at the door, not going to work. And that ultimately led to Ticket going to Boston and getting that trade because he couldn't replace that Sam and Spree dynamic where he could trust them and they didn't have to worry about, you know, what are you doing outside the court?

You ain't jealous of me getting all the touches. And you've seen the dynamic, and it's like he went and won. But I just wish that the egos were checked at the door So then I would have had a goddamn chance To make more that playoff push or you get closer to that shit. So as an organization, I'm just checking here I don't think it Timberwolves didn't make the playoffs again after that 04 season till Shit 2017 2017, bro

But as an organization how much is that on on them to put the right roster together of guys that they know actually rock with each other? Obviously, you want to listen to your star player and take their opinion, but we need to surround you with the guys that we know can be successful. That ain't something that an organization can really foresee. You don't know who's going to mesh, who's vibing. But once you see that it's not working, like, alright. But that's just players themselves. Right? If a player decides he don't want to mesh with this player,

he don't like his views, he don't like how he plays, that's just that. Right? There's, like, a coach is, a coach, certain coaches have the respect to control a locker room other than that The locker room is controlled by the locker room itself

Right, you know you you have the leader in the locker room who might not even be the best player, right? But you have someone that basically lets the law down there's rules. There's Understanding but that comes from within the team right, so, you know you can you can draw up a play for do coach can draw about it's what I want to get the shot for and somebody be like nah I don't give a fuck how much she makes it 13 14 minute no no no no no run that over here right now happened before like there was a point when I was you know I'm 300,000 and I had to prove a point

that I was the gamer in Golden State oh yeah oh yeah the yoga way I'll go shoot let's see let me know when y'all need my help again and I'm pulling you know I'm pulling New York Knicks we playing at home and niggas complain about the ball So I ain't shooting in I cool good I'm sitting around and I ain't they complain just passing and then timeout came like three four minutes left argue. We got it Go do you? First day that serious But you know that's that's that's but that's something that has to be

Manufactured to our team you have to earn Certain things right and that's just yeah, it's just a locker room Like there's just certain personalities you do need in a locker room because they set the tone for just everybody Like I wish I had more if I could him in a locker room cuz have this shit I was doing and he again I look like I don't want my ass with today. All right, man. I'm passing the ball What is we doing tonight? Give it to him. Give it to him. Give it to him I'm not gonna sit in the locker room and watch certain

shit and let certain shit happen. We lost a regular season game and new dude, new to the team, he ain't no motherfucking shy of singing. We just lost. It was a regular season game. I guess he didn't know. He had no idea how I am about winning and losing. I go in there, hey, it's your problem, dude. Listen, man. Last time, warning, warning. We don't do that around here, man. Winning means something.

Was it a good song? I don't give a fuck what it was. What it was. You could have been singing Kumbaya. You could have been praising the Lord in there. I don't know. You just lost. It could have been game three.

It could have been the third game of the season. I don't, listen, bro. We don't, nah. Let's talk about these Warriors a little bit. You talk about a guy like Draymond, everything he's meant to that franchise. Obviously been instrumental in winning those four championships. But you also got to talk about the other side. Obviously KD had the story that came out about that Clippers game.

When he took the ball and how KD was kind of off the team. Or not, just kind of like checked out, mentally checked out after him and Draymond got into it. You got the pool situation. Obviously Draymond re-up. So the Warriors made their choice picking Draymond over pool But at what point do they need to start looking at it and saying we need to start focusing on our long-term future Or do you just keep riding with this big three squad? Four chips keep it rolling No, no, I'm not saying that. I mean, he got four. That's what I'm saying.

His personality, what he brung, got four rings. This is what you're going to say, right? No matter what you say, right, the technicals, 16 technicals, the getting kicked out of the games, that's what he gets to do. Two? 16 technicals, they're getting kicked out of the games. That's what he get to do. Two? Give him two championships. Because KD got the... That's two? It's two. I'm going to give him two.

Warriors fans watching. I'm going to give him two. But he's still there. But that's what gave him... They don't win two with Draymond out there, bro. Let's be honest, dog. We can do without Draymond those last two. No, you can't.

Because KD, you know, he can do what he can do. Well, my point is you know, you can't His confidence you can't win from the first two you can't allow him To say the shit to KD to do the shit to Jordan pool Because that's what winning does when you win and you solidify yourself as a winner. It's like nigga I can say one was with yeah, you got the first one, what, 2015? Oh, yeah, yeah. So it's just one. Oh, he got two because the last one.

But I'm saying, so he had one when KD came in and KD won those. One without him. So, yeah, he got himself two where, you know, he didn't have to depend on the sniper. But like I'm saying, it's just one of them things where he has to be accountable For the things that he does and for an office got to hold him accountable as well And even the cp3 shit that's recently bubbled over now You got to deal with a new teammate that you didn't like and it's like what's gonna happen throughout the dynamic I'm saying like Draymond is like a firecracker that I'm saying sometimes you'm saying, sometimes you like that motherfucker, it might not go off.

Sometimes you like that motherfucker, and that's going... That's what I'm going to say. You got to take the deal with the movie. You're trying to go get number five, man. Hey, you know what the funny part is? If he don't have no championships, the narrative would be he's a horrible locker room guy. Absolutely.

It's a horrible fucking team, man. That's why I said the championship is mad. No, no, no. What I'm saying is that's how we... A guy who has that type of passion in a sport, if it doesn't turn to winning, we say it's a bad locker room guy. Look at Jimmy Butler.

He's been a bad locker room guy until he gets to Miami. Now he's a winner. Right? Because if this winner is in a situation where he's not winning. Looks bad. He has to, he's going to voice his disappointment. Absolutely. And when you have a whole bunch of losers with you,

those losers overtake. Absolutely. We don't like them. It's bad. We gotta get rid of them. Now you got too much pressure to... Kobe. It's the same shit about Kobe.

It's you against them. Them last years. Yeah. Oh, he's a horrible locker room guy. Horrible locker room guy. This shit, losing shit sucks. I don't even want to talk to y'all niggas. I'm saying, I don't want to be around y'all.

This shit sucks. Take my goddamn shoe. Yeah. You know how everybody go back to the Jordan clip in The Last Dance when he had to reflect on who he was, right? And he actually started tearing up. Remember that? When he was right and he actually started like he started tearing up remember that and he was like you know you want to play that way if you don't want to play that way and he's you know you don't have to like you can see that he now that he's not competitive he's reflecting on the he did to be a winner. Mm-hmm. And... Asshole, I mean, assholes win!

No, I'm a firm believer in this, and I tell this to everybody, and I say it to my kids, and I say it to other people. Man, when it comes to sports, put your feelings in your pocket, man. Mm-hmm. Hey, put your feelings in your pocket, man.

I don't care about them. Because I heard them. Mm-hmm. When it comes to this, winning, I might say some shit in the moment when we on that bench, bro When we in the moment I'm gonna might say something that's gonna hurt your feelings though And that's my I just what it is man like I'm competitive that man that people competitive and that's what they people take from it Oh, there you go again No, they can't be around this guys. Oh

Tough to man. Listen, how can we deal please? Can somebody please talk to him like that? That is but that's the sad thing That's the set that you're so used to Out of 13, you might have two dudes that have that passion Shit, if you're lucky you got one, right? to, out of 13 you might have two dudes that have that passion. Shit, if you're lucky you got one, right? That's the one no one likes. Unless you're on a winning team.

So like when you think about somebody like Rasheed Wallace, right? His whole career getting all them techs. He's in Detroit. The least tech year. Because he got winning that's helping mask that. You know, the frustration is gone. Right?

And it's just, like, when I look at people. And then you got Big Shot over there. Yeah. Yeah. Leadership is lonely, man. Yeah. Leadership is one of those things where, you know, heavy is the head that wears the crown.

It's a guy, you know, that's going to hold not only himself accountable, but everybody else around him, even the coach. Coach say some stupid shit in the huddle. It's like, coach, man, come on, man, clear that up. You know what I'm saying? The film guy fuck up some shit in the film. You got to be able to correct everybody, but correct yourself first. Because that's the number one thing with leadership is, are you doing what you're telling everyone else to do? Are you dropping on that rotation? Are you

fucking up the rotation? Are you doing certain things and holding yourself accountable? But I think that's the number one thing is the leadership is a lonely, lonely, lonely road. And you got to be strong enough to be able to navigate who you can talk to, who you can push and get the best results out of that. Because you pushing the wrong guy who, you know, is going to push back, push back, push back. You're not reading the room because this guy is going to create a conflict within the team because you're trying to push him. He don't want to be pushed. So then it it ain't like you got to give up on him but it's like the kobe mike approach where i lead up i'm leading now by example i don't want to fight your ass every day so what i'm gonna do is just show you what i do and you can either jump on board or not nigga so we got that that jordan last dance quote you were talking about gill you basically said when people see this

they're gonna to say, well, he wasn't really a nice guy. He may have been a tyrant. Well, that's you because you never won anything. I wanted to win, but I wanted them to win to be a part of that as well. Look, I don't have to do this. I'm only doing it because it is who I am. That's how I played the game.

That was my mentality, and then obviously the best part. If you don't want to play that way, then don't play that way. Break. Yeah. Wow. I mean, that was powerful, man. Like, you got to really. Like, when we're talking about the elite of the elite, the winners of the winners, if you start asking teammates, right, nobody's going to be like, yeah, we was doing this.

We was having so much. There ain't no fucking fun with those dudes They ain't no fun. You don't start seeing a personality into after they're done Like Kobe when he's done and he's retired, you know, he's coaching girls. He's like Like that is public was a shit do about fucking during the season. Oh, right I mean you like these guys once they're done, is when you see, oh, okay. He's a person. He's a person. When they playing, he ain't no fucking person, man.

That's that fucking robot. That motherfucker. Robot. Fucking tyrant. Machine out this bitch. And that's what AI was saying about Kobe. He didn't know if Kobe liked him throughout his whole career. He's like, I thought the nigga hated me until after he passed.

And I realized that he really looked up to me like I looked up to him. And I wish I'd have had more of a relationship with the guy. Because we hold that character. When you're in character and it's kill mode, I don't care who you is on the other side. You might be my homie. We might have just partied last night. But, bro, I'm about to tear your throat out. You better have the same mentality I got

because I ain't helping you up when I knock you down. That's what I love about competitiveness, which is not as much anymore. But when you're going against somebody that you know is good, you know a nigga can cut your throat just like you want to cut theirs, man, that's what really make it interesting.

Like, yeah, man, I'm playing against Gil and Kenyon on the same team. Oh, it's going to be a tough night. But I'm about to try to kill these niggas. So, I mean, you talk about MJ reflecting in that last dance clip. Question for all y'all, when y'all reflect back on your career, there are moments or situations or things you wish you would have done differently to be able to win a championship. With, you know, my teams, we wasn't, we just wasn't, we wasn't old enough yet, right? You know, we were still getting snippets, trying to learn, trying to figure out what was what.

We didn't have that real veteran group. By the time I got hurt, now I'm 27, 28. I'm not the same player I was. I'm not who I am. I have no real influence. I'm still trying to get my career back and trying to get you know everything going back so We were just young you know I didn't You know first round second round you know that was it I really only played in two playoff series

You know the my first year 0405 and then 0506 That was it. That was really That was really it for me. I feel like people will look at that and be like, oh, he didn't do this, he didn't do that, and not really understand how difficult it is even to make the playoffs. Everybody, we live in this ring culture we talked about earlier this week. But even getting to the postseason,

just how difficult that can be and what that means. But Kamar, when you look back on your career, do you have any things you reflect back on, like, damn, I wish I would have done this differently or that differently? Yeah, yes and no. You know what I'm saying? Because I always played the game a certain way.

But yeah, I let the situation in Denver, how I felt about the coach getting away of my, the way I worked on my game. You know what I'm saying? Like, I didn't want to be in that moment. I didn't want to be around. I didn't, like, it was like, Wayne.

So, yeah, for me to let that interfere, like, a few years. Like, for me not to put the effort in working on my game, because if I'm working to please him, I don't fuck him. But it wasn't about him, ultimately. You know what I'm saying? Then when we had an assistant that was, like, instrumental, like, it ain't about him. But it wasn't about him ultimately, you know what I'm saying? Then when we had a system that was like instrumental,

like it ain't about him, you need to do this, you need to. And those years were like, it was cool. But yeah, but probably that, you know what I'm saying? Did he challenge, was it him challenging you and then you like saying, I ain't about to do this shit for him? Nah, nah, nah, nah. It was just, I didn't want to be in Denver, bro. Like I did not want to be there.

You know what I'm saying? Was it his energy? Yeah, yeah. I didn't want to be around dude, man. Like as much as I love my teammates, I just didn't want to be around dude. You know what I'm saying? And I did everything in my power to get out of there.

You know what I'm saying? I did. When I say everything in my power to get out of there, I did everything in my power to get out of it You know I'm saying I did I did When I say everything in my power to get out of there I did everything in my power to get out of it, but it just didn't was that despite the success I was having like during the race because this Like I just I'm gonna show up and do my job though I'm saying no matter how I feel about him

I'm gonna show up because I'm a competitor Mm-hmm, and I got a job to do so I'm gonna show up and I'm gonna play hard no matter what cuz it's about winning once I lay some up like I told you earlier in the week once I lay some up man. It's time to go Ain't no off switch so they knew that We can't trade him or he can't get out of there then, but we know he going to show up. So they betted on that. They counted on that night in, night out.

So, but yeah, I let that affect how I worked. So as far as the teammates, like, you know, we all can't be in the locker room and know a certain nigga don't fuck with the coach and all that. Did everybody know, like like he wasn't rocking With him and everybody just kind of filled in little slots It wasn't a secret

It wasn't a secret that I didn't Because it didn't start off that way. You know I'm saying like dude came in we were winning You know I'm saying I'm well I'm rocking with him. We had a somewhat of report and I just started seeing over time There's the shit that I didn't like about him and he's saying certain size shit and just there's over time And I just did you guys have any private conversation? No, he never know. No, we never okay Okay, do you feel like things might have been different if y'all were able to sit down? Probably early on but also I understand gets to a point where it's just like yeah We don't like it like we talk earlier like that's getting to know you guys You know I'm saying come in and don't walk through the locker room and act like 15 guys ain't sitting in here, right?

You're not like you're not better than that and I'm the guy like so you ain't go fucking speak. Yeah Mm-hmm for sure. I'm saying like I'm that guy like you so you ain't go fucking speak? Yeah. For sure. I'm saying? Like, I'm that guy. Like, you ain't better than nobody in here, dog. Yep. Or you ain't, I'm not going to let you treat this person that way or talk to this person that way. Right. Like, what do you mean? No, we're not going for none of that, man.

And then I started just seeing the characteristics of the person that I did not like. They hate that. You know what I'm saying? And when I get to that point, I call you out on everything. characteristics of the person and I did not like they hate them saying and When I get to that point I call you out on everything You can do no right in my 100% I'm saying I don't care what you do what you say once I put you in this place over you can do no, right? And everything that you do that I deemed us not accurate around straight up and down 100

I'm I'm gonna call you out and it was no not one day exempt from that my it wasn't every day but a lot of days like I would just you start that and here I'm a man ain't nobody trying to hit that shit today man big question there do you think without that riff y'all would have went over the top of the hump yeah Yeah, it just wasn't me though I know but I was vocal because because what you said about your game like he you he kind of stopped you from Getting better at certain things that you you know, you said a man I wish you if he wasn't on that you would have went to a whole nother level of play you think y'all would have went to

The you took it to there. I mean because I see you as a different type of asset to a team like that. Yeah, yeah. And if you're telling me now that you could've gotten better, I'm like, like, wow, like, okay, well, what does that look like? Absolutely. Absolutely. I put a lot of that on me,

you know what I'm saying? Like, in times when Melo had to carry the burden when he was struggling offensively. You know what I'm saying? Allly. You know what I'm saying? All that. You know what I'm saying? So. I know I regret something.

Yeah. When I got traded to Orlando. And I was coming off the locker room stuff. So coming off the locker room stuff. So I'm not agent zero no more. Right? So now I'm just trying to blend in right so you know we have you know you know you have dwight right um who's a star and then you know i got jj reddick anderson right and you have coach who stand was that that's why I'm like, oh man, fuck Stan.

Because he lucky he got me at this point. He lucky he got me in a situation where I couldn't be vocal with him. Because the shit he was doing in the games, on the bench, you can't do that. Right? Like, we babysitting each other because of this man like first person call a timeout the scores 12 to they scored they go as 12 to now it's 18 6 he want to call a timeout we winning we winning oh you motherfuckers don't want to play get them all out of here and he'll always dirty talk like like, motherfucker, turn the ball over. He'll go, why do I even have him in here? This stupid motherfucker.

And we sit here like... I hate that shit. What the fuck that motherfucker be saying about me? Yeah, that's what he's talking about me. You know what I mean? And I'm playing with JJ and Anderson. So I need both them mentally. These are shooters.

So we coming down, and he's killing Anderson. And I just be wanting to say man Yo, shut your motherfucking ass up, man Like get shot you shut the fuck up, right? No, no you sit your ass down you call the plays over there Don't talk to these motherfuckers. Yeah. Yeah, you you ain't doing you ain't doing nothing to help these people game you hurt in the game You hurt any confidence these people game you hurt in their game you hurt in their confidence right and and and like when you say you did and i'm like dan that's the only time i didn't tell him my coach like yo relax bro yeah relax like let us let let the white tell him let us tell turk yo hey you're lazy today we say it differently right we know how to talk our teammates respect but you the coach you you

control it at the time man We can't tell you the only person that can tell you something is Dwight and the only time he gonna say something is when you just Keep poking at him. Yeah, you poke at him enough then he gonna spaz. I'm Remember this move Dwight got a block boom, right? Somebody came down. Oh snap that and then he tried to throw it. They caught it, and then boom, scored. Time out, right?

How come you didn't get that other block? I just got two blocks. In a row. They call you Superman. He didn't say that. I ain't calling you Superman. He didn't say that. He said, this Superman name getting to your name.

The crowd out here, pause. They are here just sucking you off Yo, yeah, then why you just make it show fat ass out there and do the same shit I'm doing mother fuck over is always criticize the man. I'm not yeah, you might need to do that a lot big fella Yeah, right, but it took it took the point where this man hustled his ass off And then it took for that right there, and we up 20. Fucking Georgians do that shit. Somebody do something, take a shot, fall out.

Oh, this shit. I did someone game, and I saw my peripheral. He fell out of this chair. Man, I went right over there. Fall out of your motherfucking chair again. One more time. See what happens. Yo, man, I went right over there.

What the fuck? Man, no. I seen it in my peripheral. Did you just fall out? Man, man, I went right over there. Man, no. I seen it in my peripheral. Did you just fall out? Man, listen, dog. Man, we were playing the game. He and that joint talking about it. Donyell Marsh had a tip to win the game.

He missed. I had 17 rebounds. Eddie had like 13 or whatever. He coming out. Marks came. Of course, he's number one, two in the league in rebounds. MC don't play that game. I had 17 of them bitches.

You come in there, oh, we're not men, we're not tough, we don't rebound the ball. Who the fuck you talking to? You talking to me? Now, Ed, and you should be pissed, too. I'm going off. And then it go, big fella, when you coming back? No. Yes.

That's the type of shit. He said that shit. Hey, big fella, when you coming back? No. Yes. That's the type of shit. He said that shit. Hey, big fella, when you coming back? Yep. I lose it, man. That mean he didn't like you, though. I lose it. Yeah, that's fuck shit.

So, of course, I go. He come try to talk. We had a day off, whatever. Come try to talk the next day at practice. I go over there, stand next to the gym. He come over, think it's going to be sweet again. Didn't you hear what the fuck I just told you, dog? Man.

Fuck away from me. I ain't got shit to say to you, dog. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's the type of shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, you poking at a nigga. Like, you. My knee bothered me.

Shoot around. Are you going to go today? No, I'm going to wait until tonight, man. My knee bothered me. I'm going to walk through the place, but I ain't gonna go up and down right now my knee Bob go down We'll figure tonight out what? Yeah, that's him. That's him. That's him Like this is the so people wonder like yeah, no, therefore I'm not gonna my knee bother. I'm not gonna work extra in here, man

not To go play for you. I'm gonna do my job, but I'm gonna do the stuff that I need to do to stop you. Mm-hmm. Man. I'm saying, we... It's crazy, man. Coaches, like, we see what you're doing.

Like, if I see you cussing this man out and saying sly shit and I'm on the bench, I can assume you're saying it about me too. Yeah. Right? So I'm already self-conscious of the things I'm doing now. Right? I'm self-conscious of like, damn, I turned the ball over.

First thing I want to do is now look. I'll see him doing this shit. Like, ah. Right? You get into that and coaches don't understand that. You're killing, your mannerisms can kill your team. Yes. My best games, I can, my best games in Orlando is when a player got hurt,

and he couldn't play, and Stan was forced to play me. Like, Jay Rich miss a game You guys suspended. Mm-hmm. I go in there like Yeah, I got 20 today. He's he gotta play he gots to play me Oh, I'll be that motherfucker cocky didn't motherfucker being that motherfucker. He talking up. You know, but the stretch of this shit. Yeah. Yeah I said you are no place Zipper up goddamnit. You gotta play me today Go on this court 20 this game one minute barely play but at that point it really didn't matter

right it really didn't matter cuz He didn't I wasn't like he though he had the advantage over me. He had my pass. Fresh off the pass. So imagine having coaches like him in that your whole career. Oh, no, they would have got broke. Oh, no, they would have been broke. Oh, Eddie tried... Oh, you had Eddie. Well, he was assistant.

Oh, no. Oh, we had to tell Eddie, you ain't the head coach, sit your ass down. I'm young, I got niggas like that. That's like talking crazy From from randy whitman, even kevin mckell. She's like slick shit You know i'm saying roy williams these all guys that try to break the one to break you And then like you say you you as a higher og you watching this shit You like man, what the fuck did you break you trying to break him? He not gonna say nothing back He's just gonna go into his shell and we need him to play at his best his highest optimal

situation like what do we what are we doing and just like y'all I Used to be the guy even at a young age that would say something like coach. Why are you talking to him like that? If daddy don't talk to him like that. So you need a nigga like me on your team. I got you. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I didn't have that.

I didn't have that. This was in KG. Yeah. But KG was gone at that time, so I was like one of the. Yep. Like, man, what's up, coach? And that shit used to make me mad because I knew we were winning. I'm like, yo, you can't win like that.

You don't have no power. I had no power. Yeah, that's the veterans. Yeah. Nobody would do it. That's why we always suffer from my rookie year all through my fourth year. It's like, if I got to be the one to say it, I know I'm going to lose because I'm too young.

I haven't accomplished anything. So nigga's not going to respect what I'm saying, but he hear me. I know he fucking hear me. This nigga not responding to the way you coaching him and We not winning in result. So what the fuck is you saying this type of shit to the It's not helping us. You want to tell me about my game beat me in the gym coach Coach beat me in the gym. I'm here 530

530 we won't talk about the game you watch more film to me. Ah, no You better come correct on that game plan. You better, um, no. Write it off. She's right-handed, but he like going left. Like, stop. No. We talk about the time in terms of the coaching aspect,

but do you guys have more respect? Do you feel like coaches that played before, and obviously this doesn't hold true for every coach, but coaches that actually played in the league before know how to approach players differently. Like, you're talking about Stan Van Gunney. Does it make you even madder looking at this dude? Like, bro, you would have never hooped for anybody at a high level talking this crazy shit versus a coach who actually played in the league you know has been through the same things you've been through.

No, look, when we, me, when I evaluate coaching right it's right plays Practice schedule is it functional right? How does your practice? Is it a functional practice meaning like are you one of those type of coaches that? Start off a certain like you know We're gonna do some full course stuff turn it in a half course stuff do some plays Then go back to full court. Like, how are you progressing? You know, so I go by that.

Then now in game situations like your timeouts, your plays after timeout, can you sub correctly? So, you know, played or not played, that's how I evaluate you. The advantage like a player's coach have is that schedule. That schedule is very important, right? When you can look at a schedule and be like, all right, okay, we're going to have day off here, day off here. Like you can pre-put them shits in and then boom, now I can look at them. And then when the season starts, how long do you, like there'll be some times where we have a day off and I look at the and then when the season start how how long do you like there'll be some times where

we have a day off and i look at the coach like nah the way we playing oh motherfucking day off shit these motherfuckers die we need to practice we need to practice there'll be some times like yo hey coach come on dude playing well motherfuckers hurting day off yeah we need day off maybe two yeah right and then motherfucking be like All right, because he plays so he understands what back-to-backs four games and five nights eight games in ten days Well fucking knows that. Yep. Right you come to practice you ready to practice like no no no no no We're like I feel they ain right, back, back. Yeah, yeah. Rats. Shots up? All right, you fuck niggas, y'all better practice hard. Yeah, I'm with that. Yeah, no, that's, yeah, that's,

but I played for, like Lawrence Frank never played, right? I think for when he was our coach, I think he was one of the best basketball minds there could possibly be, you know what I'm saying? Like after timeouts, drawing up plays, calling out defensive sets, like, calling out the off, like, one of the best basketball minds there could possibly be. You know what I'm saying? But then I've been around a guy like Mike Whitson that played, and he know how to locker

room guys, dance days off to Gil's point, went change and shoot around times later to let guys sleep in. Just like, learning your guys, you know what I'm saying? Like all that's important, man. It all matters. I love a coach that harps on execution offensively, effort on defense, strategies, being able to put in, you know, things that we know as a system that's going to work for not only our

advantage but help him learn us, you know what that we know as a system that's going to work for not only our advantage but help him learn us you know i'm saying what the things that we do good at as a team what's our identity you know i'm saying a lot of teams right now that i look at don't got no identity they don't have no structure they don't got no execution it's like you don't run the play to you know we got three options that's what i used to love about watching the nets is because jk used to make sure y'all go through the options and if a nigga got scored you go back to it you know, we got three options. That's what I used to love about watching the Nets is because J.K. used to make sure y'all go through the options. And if a nigga got scored, go back to it. You know what I'm saying?

Go back to it. Go back to it till they break it. And then defensively, strategies. We was talking about this offline. You know, you got the trap on the side, trap at the top, and you're going under. You know, Kenyon hated bigs that dropped on the pick and roll because it's like you're giving the point guard too much.

But if you can go down here on the offensive end and twinkle toes and do all these fucking moves, but you can't come out here and guard, like the coach, it's up to the coach to put you in a position to do these things. So I always made sure that when I assessed a coach's ability that they had both sides. You know what I'm saying? It's more execution and more strategy on the defensive end.

And when you got that, it's championship shit. It's just now up to the players to execute. So we talked about the Warriors winning championships. Let's talk about a team now that's trying to win championships.

Give up your least favorite team in the league. But Ty Lue made an appearance on All the Smoke and talked about his expectations for Kawhi and PG this regular season. The organization's done a great job of putting this together.

I just want to see it, just one time. Just let me see it one time. You know, everybody had a low management and they kind of give those guys a hard time, but they don't want to play in the playoffs. Like, these are real significant injuries. One thing I told Kawhi and PG this summer, like, we do got to approach the regular season in a different way. Like, let's be serious about it.

Let's not wait until the playoffs because it matters. Who you get matched up with, have a home court advantage, not fight in the last 10 games of the season so we won't be in the play-in. Now you can get rest. Now you can get yourself together. So they both understood that as well. So last season, Kawhi and PG only played together 38 times. They dealt with injuries.

Clippers finished fifth in the West. I want to say they were a game out behind the Suns for fourth place and potentially getting home court in that first round. But do Kawhi and PG need to take the regular season more seriously? I think every NBA player needs to. Every team does.

You're talking about you're fifth in the West and your two players only played 38 games together. They didn't play half of it yet. What? Like, imagine if they did play this 72 to 78 games together. Where they would have been? If they played 65 together.

Man. Say it again. But they don't think about it. They think that we can just turn this shit on in the play We can miss all season and then playoffs getting we all fresh Nobody ain't even ready for that dumb shit and ready to win. Yeah How chemistry you know how you have no chemistry? You just all just training camp chemistry is gonna kick in and then man you crazy as hell

And we got a point out there dealt with injuries and all that type of stuff But no, no, I'm just saying but now coming into this season. That's the real shit You talked about before the load management. It hasn't really resulted in a positive now come postseason Some of his load management of course, but some of it is Maybe just want to need the day off. Can't take the day off. You know what I'm saying? Like, you got a little nick, I ain't feeling.

No, you got to play, dog. You ain't going to never feel 100% ever. You know what I'm saying? So you can't. Like, you got to play. Gives points. Like, winning is a learned behavior, dog. Playing, winning in the fourth quarter,

learning your teammates learning It's a learned behavior and that's what the regular season is used for and to Gil's point All 350 need to take this shit Seriously at night. I'm like Like you getting like it ain't This is not recreation Like you getting paid To do it. this is a job you're gonna paycheck I get somebody you gave somebody no Social Security number from saying like you're getting a paycheck for this all right just imagine if the

dude that's didn't live in the mail or the doctor today decide that he don't I want to give up the mill. Yeah Yeah, you know what yeah, I'm supposed to be 120 hours a day I'm gonna do 27 but a month I mean, you know what? Guess what? You ain't have a job And if more people approach that way That's why I like when I took point I was making before But I didn't work on my game but they can say that cuz I showed up and I did my job I'm saying when the lights came on what I'm getting paid to do is win basketball game people that's what I did you know I'm saying so them dudes need to do this

I'm saying it's got you got a win man it's about now I guarantee they respect Allen Iverson's quote now practice y'all talking about practice hey they talking about the games now yeah they missing games now Y'all talking about practice? Hey, they talking about the games now. They missing games now. Right? He talking about he missing practice, but he's playing his ass off. They missing games. And practice.

Like, they keep Iverson out of the game. You had the motherfucker lock the you had to lock the doors on him. He got to lock the doors on them They missing games in this oak is cool now then that's the problem it's cool to miss game like Yes, I saw a mean right Somebody said I need the top one. I did a man that don't play no games and it had a picture of Ben Simmons Why

No game Crucial boy if you have an injury man, that's an idea if you have a in my you you injured We know the difference. Little banged up ankle, thigh bruise. Shut the fuck up. You hurt? Better put that little icy high. Better put some football pads.

You hurt? I mean, Dwyane Wade had all body like, what the fuck was a football player out there, man? You talking about, come on, y'all talking about knick-knacks that y'all resting on. So we talk about Jordan, his last year, age 39 into 40, played all 82 games, started 67. and was playing like 37 minutes a game. And they said they was taking, when they was draining his knee, they said it was black. It was like draining black tar out of his knee.

And he's still going out there goddamn playing, man. I just think they need to make him for one, demand it for one. And them dudes, yeah, to T. Lou's point, they need to take it more serious, man. And you got to try to win as many games as you can in regular season. Yes, you have to. And not even knock the quiet PG, but there are only 10 players that played all 82 games. I know one of them. 82 plus.

I'm going to give you the list. I know one of them. 82 plus. I'm going to give you the list. We're going to start. K.J. Martin, Easton, Harrison Barnes, Cale Bridges, Harden Stein, Kevon Looney, George Poole, Vucevic, Derek White,

Patrick Williams, Cale Bridges, actually played 82 games. So no stars. This nigga played an extra. Give me my extra game check. K.J. had a false positive COVID test. That's the only reason

he missed two games. So you're talking about not one star is playing. So these guys can go all 82 games, but you're saying your best players can't. Yeah.

Like, look at the example that y'all making. Come on, man. Like, I can say if the whole league was, but these guys, right here, you got these guys

playing all 82. Stockton and Malone was a prime example of just playing. Cal Brees played 83. Yeah, he played extra games for Detroit. He was trying to get there. He was like, man, this is going to mess up. I'm going to play one more. He was like, because he wanted to play.

They were like, it don't count against you. It don't count. You'll be all right. You're good. It don't count against you. The travel day and all that. We give you time to get off the plane. You ain't got to get off the plane and go play today.

I'm trying to get there. I'm trying to get there. I'm with him, though, man. Just quickly, we talked about the Warriors last segment, but Jordan Poole played all 82 games. So whatever you want to say, distraction, whatever it may be, obviously the best ability is availability. So these guys are.

But now let's get back to Kawhi and PG. I know it's pretty fair to say that they're not going to play an 82-game season this year. Why is it fair to say? Because we haven't seen it in the four years that they've been there. We should be more critical of these guys because they're not even going to budge unless we're more critical. You want to see it. It don't matter if we're critical or not, man. It's on them whether an, an organization, demand it

and on them to go out and, you know what I'm saying? Of course, injury is a part of it. I'm the first one. We played through surgeries and played through injury and played hurt and played when I know I shouldn't have played. You know what I'm saying? That led to more surgery. So, you know what I'm saying?

I get it, you know what I'm saying? But I know playing through stuff at times when you guys need you Know it goes a long way How bad my question be how would you guys approach if you're the Clippers? How you approaching load management this season with quiet PG? I? Put a number games on it. I Get a few are they both coming back from injury? Yeah.

Before I had the knee, PG was out. Are they fully healthy going into the season? That's the question. I mean, we'll find out in the next. Listen, if I'm the Clippers, or if I'm any team, right, I'm going back to the AI. I don't need y'all in fucking practice like that, Dan. My resume is off the fucking games. My resume is not.

Nobody's judging my practice. Yeah, good practices. Oh, shit. He 82-0 in the practice. Nah, fuck that. Like, I want you for the game. There's no ego with me as a coach. Oh, yeah, you're going to give it to me today or tonight?

Tonight. Hey, I'll tell you. Hey, GM, tonight. We love you know, you're gonna give it to me today or tonight Tonight hey, I'll take a GM tonight. This is we pay him tonight, right? Yeah tonight I don't want the fuck to shoot around. Uh-huh. Fuck the practice. Yeah show up tonight If you need to sleep all day, goddammit, I need to see you tonight I need you to be out tonight. I don't need no Eagles got never tonight I that's what that's where everything counts tonight. Make sure you're ready for to I'll get fuck what you do Make sure you're ready for today. That's how I'm approaching it. Yeah, now you motherfucker shooting 10,000 shots You know after practice and now your body too sore for the game. No, no, no, no, no

Take 10,000 shots in the game. How about that? Mm-hmm. Give me them too sore for the game. No, no, no, no, no. Take 10,000 shots in the game. How about that? Like, give me them shits in the game. Yeah, I think they need to put a number on it. Yeah, so what would that number be if you just hypothetically be able to think about it? How many games they need to play together? 82.

82, Gil. Say it again. But I'm being realistic. 75. I ain't gonna even say that many. 70? Like I said, if they play 65 games together. Just the CBA minimum.

Together, 65. If they play they play 65 games just the CBA minimum together 65 if they play combined together 65 games I With the roster they have and all that they record in those 65 should be decent should be a fucking pretty good record I'm gonna have with top three in the way. I have the top three in the way if they play 65 games together Mm-hmm and The young dogs they got over there, I think the other fifth, they can hold the fort down. They can hold the fort down.

That's compared to the 30, what is it, 35? 38, I believe. 38. Give me 65. Give me 65. Yeah, you hit that all-NBA minimum, postseason award minimum. So if they play 65 games together. I think the team need to put a number on it.

We'll give you them games. We'll give you the 15 off. I'll give you 15 off. Here's something that is going to shock the basketball world and all them reporters out there. I talked to Tyrone Lou, and I said, man, why do my mans get low money? Right? Talking about Westbrook. Why my man get low money, man?

He said, we gave him everything we had. He said, we gave him everything he had. He didn't want to go nowhere. And we're glad he didn't because we've never had a leader, and he is our leader. Think about the perception of Westbrook. And Tyrone Luce said, we finally have a leader on our team to push us forward.

I believe that. I believe that. Because we played. Because you're good at the sport just because you can put that ball in the basket and you fucking can stop a motherfucker on the other end that don't mean you're a leader you know what I'm saying

Paul George is one of the best talented offensive players there is he just seemed like a quieter kind of a guy I'm going to lead by example I'm going to go out and play hard I'm going to put that thing in that basket I'm gonna lead by example. I'm gonna go out and I'm gonna play hard. I'm gonna put that thing in that basket. I'm gonna strap up.

If I have to say something, I might. But Kawhi, you know, he ain't gonna say nothing. Right. You know what I'm saying? But yeah, I could see that. You know what I'm saying? But no, you know, Russ is vocal, but. I know, but it's crazy how like the perception of,

oh, this man is the selfishest. And he said, man, that's my leader. That's the leader of this team. It's the confrontational guys that become the leaders. He's not confrontational. When it matters, though, he'll call you out. He's the aggressive alpha of the group. So you got

two non-confrontational guys who don't speak as much, don't say as much. But then you got Russ, who coming in there, hey, what's up, man? This is how it's supposed to go. He knows traditionally how to be a leader. He's an alpha, and that's how he play. But when you got a guy like that, and Tyrone's like, oh, we got us a leader, that shit make all the sense in the world. You remember that shit? We said it before, but Bill was telling us when we was in Washington, he said when the trade happened, he was just, I'm worried. The perception of what Westbrook, who he is, how he sounds.

He said, so when Westbrook came to the locker room and to the gym, we were playing. He said, so we're going up and down. He said, westbrook watching Hold on hold on give him a ball. Hold on. Hold on y'all. Hold on. Hell. Yeah, he said he said He pointed to me. He said y'all know who the fuck that is Huh? Do y'all know who that is right there? Bradley motherfucking bill right there. Oh, sorry all nba player best player on this team Y'all went up seven times. He didn't get the ball.

Who the fuck do y'all think y'all are? Who the fuck do y'all... That's Bradley fucking Bill right there. My point. Right? He's supposed to get the ball seven times. Every time. And he gonna give it to y'all. Ain't no damn way y'all go up seven, not even two times

without that man touching him. Y'all should be looking for him the whole time. Bradley Bill sitting there like, I think I like this man. Right? And he said, man, no one's ever said that shit, man. And he said, man, I loved Westbrook. I'm mad he left.

It's crazy how the perception of it. Washington was mad he left. They were mad like, yo, West Westbrook don't go over there they tell don't go over there like grass and green Don't go to over there to stay over here. We want you over here And that's just it just it's crazy though Like the perception that's put out there versus what the players say.

Is that the conflict that happened with the Lakers? Is that he was too much of the alpha leader for them compared to what LeBron wanted? Possibly. That's a conflict. It looked like a clash. It's a vocal person that's seeing things that just doesn't fit what he does. Yeah, but then it says a lot about his character as a person, though. You know what?

I'm going to take a back seat. I'm going to take a back seat. Yep, yep. And didn't say much. Yep, take a back seat, yeah. See how we do without me. Tell me, guess what this shit going to be. Mm-hmm.

Vroom, vroom, vroom. It's just, it's just, it's just, and that's why, you know, players, it's better when we talk to each other, right? Because we understand the game. We've been in situations. We understand where, all right, they fucking with dude, man. We've been in that situation before where our hands is tied. We can't say shit.

So we just trying to, when you going to trade me, man? Y'all having to be over there, okay, I'm just taking my jersey off over here. Like, oh, I ain't got time for this shit. Like, we've been there. And everything we said about Westbrook, that full season he played with the Lakers, obviously it didn't turn out how anybody wanted it to, but started

78 games. But played 78 in 82 games. Last season with the trade, played 73 games. So I'm just saying like... He gonna play, he don't believe in days off like that unless he's really injured. When people ask me, who would you pick? And I say, if I don't pick him, I'll be mad I gotta play against him. Because one thing I know is he's going to play 1,000%. He's going to go 1,000%. I don't want to play against a dude like that.

So he played, what, two years with the Lakers? One full year and then they moved him to the bench just passing him before the trade. He probably played the most games his Wait, him and LeBron and AD combined Wes probably played more games than both of them combined.

I think it was close. It might have been like, they might have played like 82 or something like that combined. LeBron not. You know what's crazy though? Yeah. It explains his production drop off from Washington to LA because your leadership, being able to be a leader, affects how you play. Because I used to be like, like, how the fuck is he missing the shots that he normally makes

his whole career? The little middie, bank shots, the side shots. This nigga was air balling, hitting the backboard. And I'm like, ain't no way you just drop off like that. But then you look back and you say, damn, this nigga was mentally trying to find out why I can't be the leader of the team and run the team the way I'm accustomed to. When we talk about Russ, Kobe fan. No, big Kobe guy, big L.A. guy, comes back to the Lakers.

And some of that was warned about him. I want to say his first two preseason games, he had like 15 turnovers combined. And y'all know, fucking with Lakers Nation, anybody will get it. Everybody going to get it. So now you, Russ, coming you. Anybody will get it. Kill you. Everybody will get it. Everybody will get it. So now you, Russ, coming back. You coming back home. This is your homecoming. You playing for the team that your favorite player played on.

And you literally got fans during the game. Who win? Calling you Westbrook, pass, whatever. But now you go to the Clippers. You're in shock, right? I remember Dwayne Wade said the same thing about Chicago, right? He said, my perception of Chicago wasn't the same when I got there. He said, you know, Shaq, me and Shaq coming back, sold out, right?

You know, me, LeBron coming in, sold out. I'm like, yeah, Chicago, yeah, your man's here. He said, now you're going in there, they see you every day. You're like, damn damn where everybody at right? He said the reality was when I'm coming to town. I am him when I'm here It's only being sold out when the stock And you know saying they were Westbrook. I'm coming home like when I come here. I'm cheered as an opponent now as a Laker hometown hero this and this and now the people I

generally came here to see the the city I represent when I'm when I'm in these other cities y'all booing me man like y'all really hate me oh no that's hurt that's hurtful well I'm gonna go to the other side and stick it to you. Yep. Yep. I'm going to go to my hood. Now you go to Clippers, 21 games with Clippers, started all 21 games, embraced them. You know, it wasn't all the shit.

When them dudes was out, man. They relied. He played great. Yeah, he did. On both sides. Yeah, he played great. The hatred that the Lakers gave was unwarranted because he's the only one that was actually playing. Yep. Like, LeBron and them, like, if we start a season off and say, all right, LeBron's going to play only 30-something games, A.D.'s going to play, you know, about 30-something games.

We would have sat there and said, oh, they're going to be shitty. Trash. Right? You're not going to blame nobody at that point. If we already said they're going to, you're going to be like, oh, they're not going to do nothing. And, you know, but the fact that they're not winning and he's the only person that y'all just like. We got Westbrook. Well.

We got Westbrook. Boo! Who else y'all going to put the fuck in? Triple-double. Triple-double. Who else? Ain't nobody here. Triple-double. We got Westbrook well So let's put a pin on this Clippers one open up their new stadium in Englewood next season Plan is to have Kawhi and PG PG there to launch the new era in the city of champions Englewood The Clippers don't win a chip this year. Do you trade PG, Kawhi, or both? Well, Gil, if you're saying they're not going to win, then answer the question.

It's just empty. There better be water. Hydrate. But what I'm saying is, if that doesn't happen, but if you drink too much of it, you go to the Clipper game, they got like 6,000 bathrooms for you to pee wherever you want.

You're not going to wait in no lines. I told you, that lets you know how motherfucking terrible, or bathrooms, that's what you highlight. Like, yeah, we got 6,000, but everybody go take pee-pees. With 1,000, whatever it is. Everybody go take pee-pees, yeah. You can pee quick and get back to the action. Come on, man. Not heated seats. Not little TVs right here so we can...

You know, the upper room, they can see. Like, come on, man. I mean, they got a lot of other shit, too. I'm talking about, like, come on. We're going to do something to brag about. That man work Microsoft. Ain't no telling what he got. That upper room there that whole level Like I know y'all can't see down there. I got your little screen TVs where y'all can just look in they got the AI facial recognition

They go Screen capture put them at the game. So it's always gonna be sold out, you know, I'm a Clippers fan. I mean, oh 1162 We heard. We seen it. We seen it. Absolutely, Jack. But I'm just saying, now at this point, they've strengthened this roster up. Obviously, everything is contingent on Kawhi and PG. As the team goes, as they go, the team goes. But they don't want to chip.

Now do you start thinking about breaking that thing up? No. You keep it going? It's the Clippers. Like, okay, let's be real Do they even have luxury to trade people? Listen y'all got two stars that the three that the world wouldn't think y'all got like just keep them right just keep them No one cares, but you're not gonna get anything better. I think somehow get hardened. Okay, keep it to

Just keep just whatever you can get the company just keep it right you remember the old model was everybody we get get rid of it just three years ago three years ago now you just keep just keep all right you know they get old whatever you know just you don't you're not in you even though you're in la you do not have the luxury to be trying to dump players and rebuild. You don't have that kind of luxury, bro. It makes sense, too. That makes sense. You don't have.

You're not the Lakers, man. You're not going to go two dead seasons. Then you're going to get LeBron, AD, and shit like that, win championships. That's not going. You're going to have to build and build and build. And, you know, you get hard this year. Next year, you probably get, let's see, Dame Lillard and then boom, we won the championship.

There we go. There we go. It took you seven superstars. It took you seven stars. That's right, bro. That's right. 1200 round throws. Because if they do get rid of them, it's like you said, rebuilding in LA, it don't

make sense. It's going to be- You can't do it in Englewood. Yeah, it's destruction. You can't come L.A. next to the, it don't make sense. It's going to get... You can't do it in Englewood. Yeah, it's destruction. You can't come up with that bullshit in Englewood. In Englewood, you know, it's not the same anymore. But they definitely not winning no chips. I'm just saying the city. Stop it. The city.

It look different now. They ain't been playing in Englewood since Skippy was a puppy. The city's different now. It's Caucasian, right? They still got the Sizzler. They got theian, right? They still got the Sizzler. They got the Sizzler still? They got the Sizzler. Man, I love it. So that's the last match in the Open.

Man, listen. I just want my son to play some meaningful basketball. No. That's all I ask for, man. I've been watching horseshit basketball for the last three years, man. So I just want him to go out and have a chance every night. I mean, listen. So, I just want them to go out and have a chance every night. No, I mean, listen,

they should be, they should be exciting. It's just that the stars got to play, that's all. They got to play and win, man. They got to,

they got to want to win. They got to want to win. They got to want it. They want to want it. Like, you got to want to want to play 70, 65,

70 games. You got to want that. I feel like that podcast shit, man, like, that thing, to me, that. I feel like that podcast shit, man, like, that thing to me, when I see PG doing the podcast shit,

like, the air, I see it, I get it, everybody wanna do it and have a conversation and have, you know what I'm saying,

but it's just like, this is time to be in the lab two, three times a day, you know what I'm saying, where even you taking an hour or two just to talk on the pod,

but we know how much time that takes. Production, coming up with guests, you got to do it this time, that time. They got a good, strong crew over there,

so I know they're maximizing his time and energy. So for me, I used to be over there, so I don't know. It's just like, man, but where's the priority? Right?

Where's the priority? Because I'm just cut from a different cloth of seeing guys who have like a Kobe Bryant it's always my metric man look how much time a nigga like that spent in the gym even a guy like Melo D Wade LeBron you never seen them deter to go do something else during the season yeah it was always the focus you know I'm saying so I just don't see the focus. Motherfuckers wasn't offering millions of dollars to sit down and talk. But you already making millions of dollars

to play the game. No, but we're talking about, I mean, we're talking about an hour, hour and a half of talking, right? Like, we can't be that delusional of like what media say, whoa, get in the gym. How you at this award show?

Bitch. Cause it's 10 o'clock. All right. It's 10 motherfucking o'clock. I just finished working out. I might go work out after this. Right. We're,

we're, we're, let's not pretend that right. If I practice every three hours after my practice, I can come in here and do an hour and a half and leave and go like, this is not something I'm sitting here eight hours. You know what I mean? But it's the perception becomes reality.

But that's the whole point for me. If you want it to be reality. But I'm saying, it's okay. I did a blog. But that's different. Draymond got four chips. It's okay. But I'm just saying from the perception out there, he's got four chips.

So if you want to do a podcast. For us to finish a game and I want to go on after the game and talk about my day or the games that went on in the NBA. What else is there for me to do after the game? But that's my other point.

So you hear stories back in the day about MJ playing cards all night doing whatever he's doing. So that's cool. But you can't knock PG. And I know, but that's kind of, I'm not saying you are, but that's the perception narrative out there. It's like shit, Artest used to work at Circuit City back in the day. You know what I mean? Like guys have free time, they got shit to do.

I'm just saying, the guys have free time, they have shit they want to do in their free time. Like would they rather, like we don't see him doing his pod, but he out on the corner fucking do whatever you're doing it's the narrative yeah we talk about the bobo nerd we don't you don't work hard on this it's like if you in the booth you're trying to rap what you're trying to do whatever it is you're trying to do the perception comes well if you wasn't out doing this and you was in here doing this maybe y'all would have won that's the the variable that's created with the narrative of, man, you're spending

more time on this than we see you in the gym, right? If God's not winning, then yeah. That's what I'm saying. That's the whole point. If God's not winning, what's the priority of, like, once you start to take us to the point where we can see wins and feel good about, yeah, do more of that podcast, man, as long as

it's leading to us winning, keep doing that but like perception is perception is not reality reality is reality right i did this podcast after we played i do media before the game i do media after the game that's an hour and a half of my motherfucking day what's the difference no No one no one cares then when I'm talking I could be out there motherfucking shooting But I got to sit here and do this stupid ass interview winning and losing is the difference There's no no one talks about the losers doing interviews for an hour and a half But if I did a podcast for that same hour and a half there would be a problem not realizing I do it Anyway for these goofy ass that's why I just said the perception is that the losing but that's not really matter but

you're telling him that he should do it when that's not reality like no he does his thing like do your thing like you got time to get in the lab you just 24 hours in a day yes like I said they wouldn't all friend guys millions of dollars to go to I did a blog. I did the NBA blog, so I already know. But you did a fire blog, PG doing a fire podcast. If the podcast was trashed, then it would be like, damn, nigga, you're not playing

your shit, your podcast, wack. It's fire. But it's fire. And it's doing its numbers. It's supposed to do what it's due, so let's see you do the same on the floor. For sure. That's my point. It's like, yo, you got a fire ass podcast. It's like you're putting a lot of energy into this. By himself.

Because you're doing your damn thing, right? Now let's fucking win some fucking games, my G. Let's play 65 games, my G. Because now I'm thinking. That's going to boost the pod numbers. You could be icing or rehabbing or whatever the fuck you're supposed to be doing extra time. This is extra hours you could be putting in on this shit. But it's like, I just want to see the carryover.

Like, yo, you're going to do this. Do this. Nigga, win. But how does that carry over to wins? I'm not saying it does. I'm just saying when you're doing this, I need you to win too. Why do you need him to? Because you're playing.

You're getting paid to play. So if he goes 0 for 82, that podcast is a problem? No, if you only play 38 games, it's a problem. You only play 38 games. No, they play 38 together. So whatever games you play, nigga, play half the season or more half the season, bro, so we can actually see it. Maybe he's hurt, so that's why he's podcasting. Maybe he's not hurt.

Maybe he just not focused on getting back. He played 56 games in the regular season. He was almost at that 65 minimum. Where was he at? He played 56 games. 56 games. You know what I'm saying? 35 minutes a game.

But at the end of the day, I'm not saying that the podcast is a detriment to how he's playing. I'm just looking at it from a perceptional standpoint of if you looking at it like, damn, this shit, why this not adding up? It's supposed to add up together for me. What I'm saying is, PG, if you shut down the podcast, we move up to number three in the standings. Exactly, shut that shit down, nigga.

Step down. Number one, retired players. You're five. Huh? You're going to be five. Why? If he stops the podcast. The podcast is after.

It's not like he's doing his shit during the game. No, Gil, I'm saying. We in that number four spot right now. Yeah, if he shut his shit down. We go to number three. Three, yeah, yeah. Hey, BG, shut that shit down for personal use. All you players, shut your podcast down.

Y'all need to focus on your craft. Focus it. I'm trying to push this in the right direction. Y'all ain't catching on. Y'all ain't doing too much podcasting. Y'all players is doing too much. You, Draymond. Go win.

Go fucking do this other thing. Let us do this. JJ, all you motherfuckers, go on. Get the fuck out of here. JJ, go start your career again. That's all I'm saying. Go be a coach, goddammit. This ain't shit to be a GM.

With all that talking. We selfish over here. No, for sure. We're gonna be a coach. God damn it. This is gonna be a GM We selfish over here not for sure but Speaking of selfish good. We got some shit to do today. We got a long-ass drive to make so we're gonna get it to here. Is it? Now when you say we were doing this shit, I'm like, okay somewhere greater Los Angeles area gotta be then you said the location I did the ways two hours. Just like 220 But y'all gonna appreciate it. That's why we grind for y'all. So let's get into mostly fans She said two hours 20 minutes. I'm stopping at Taco Bell or somewhere Taco Bell, you know, who are you going? You got a port-a-potty in the car. No Labyrinth he must be a total elaborate roll the window down. He's part in the day

I got my control the driver see almost in the bottom part must retract my control I'll be holding military style days on end if need be nubskin First question is a underdog user tag spash g6 and when they don't fuck me They fuck me up. They fucked me up. Who was it? Big Chubby or whatever it was yesterday. So I got to read these names at events.

So when NBA players get fined, where does that money go? And why is it so damn much? From the NBA or the team? Which ones? I mean, shit, but we're... I'm going to just be honest with you. I never got fined from the team.

Okay. No, like the coach would be like, yo, we fining you. And I'm like, all right, bet. We're going to see. All right. Motherfucker fined me. We're going to have problems.

Because this is what I remember telling the general manager this. I said listen We're NBA players The fine is not enough to change the behavior but enough to piss me off Mmm, right, you know you talking about I missed the bus 5,000 right fuck your 5,000 But you finding me 5,000 for being one minute late. I Took a cabin beat you motherfuckers anyway. Yeah, right. I'm not late to this practice. I beat you here anyway

Right, so you won't piss me off, huh? I Get played for the guy get paid in the game. I think I know I think my ankle hurt. How about that? Right. So I said so so stop all this little petty shit, right? Either fine me, big boy fine, or I'm like, oh, I ain't doing that shit no more. Yeah. Right? I got fined. Hey, I hurt, I played my life. My knee was hurting, so Nick Young can start.

Fine me $50,000. Never did that shit again. Yeah. Nigga, you ain't worth $50,000. Absolutely not. Five? Oh, he petty. He also petty.

Right? So I don't know where the money actually goes. Yeah. I don't know where that shit goes goes. Yeah, I don't know where that shit goes. They talking about charity. Charity starts at the crib. My second or my third year, rookie side, lost like 350. And fines?

NBA fines or team? NBA. Texts and stuff? Shorts? Fighting, fighting, fighting. They take it out the check? Hell yeah. I'm like, you're not seeing that shit.

You're expecting the check to come in the middle. You just see the ducks, yeah. Yeah, I had two fights that year, a couple injections. Yeah, like 350. On a rookie day. On a rookie day? We don't have to talk it out. No, no talking out. No, we talked it out.

That man told me, listen, son, if you want to continue to be a part of this NBA, change ways. You got it. Wink and the gun. That rip line? Oh, shit, good man. Good Samaritan. I can find 25,000 a time, $35,000. Like single incidents. Like verbal abuse of a game official.

They're saying you leave the floor on the time. Oh they packed that shit on dog. Man I got kicked out for no clapping. They kicked me out of the game for clapping. Oh was that year when they told us no reactions? Yeah, well, I was... The nigga missed the stack, missed the tech. Man, I said I didn't... Yeah, the motherfucker gave me the...

Man, I lost it. Yeah, referees. Yeah, but no, yeah, no. We don't know where the damn money go. We don't get it back. That's the damn show. That's the damn show. I don't know where it go. We don't get it back. That's the damn That's the damn show. I don't know where it go I don't get it back

All right second questions from jug up underdog user named jug up What was the best run you had in the summer that the media wouldn't have known about? best run The best run would probably be L.A., back like 05, 06 for me, a real run, or when I started playing in Chicago. Okay. You never did hacks? Real run! Hacks.

At the hangar? Out here in L.A.? The hacks hangar? Nah. Oh, man. I've never seen you down there. What year was that? This was 2008 2009 yeah, I was staying in DC. Yeah Vegas had good runs too. Yeah at the Joe Boomizar impact impact

Yeah, not a real rough Yeah, it wasn't that wasn't really around when I when I first when I was like that wasn't what'd you play in the summer? You see a lady. Yeah, UCLA. That was it. I mean, those runs were always cool, but real run had a moment. Everybody talks about the Drew League, but real run was, you know, Antoine Walker showing up at halftime with no shoes, dropping 60, just all the crazy games that would crack out there in Carson.

So, shout out to the Anthony Necro over there. Yeah, them shits. It's just used to go down a last question for you guys This person didn't put an underdog tag so they get no bread so don't read it But no bread no wasted time not appreciate the question. No, it's a good question. Okay, fuck them. Yeah The people in the chat won't take money man. Go somebody in the money. Yeah. I think people in the chat want their money, man. Fuck him. Go pay somebody in the money. Fuck him. Can I just? Nope.

Can I just read it? Nope. Fuck him. It's work related. Nope. He don't get no love. Nope. Sign up.

Download the app. Download the app. It's the only work related question. Download the app. That's how we get our bread. So whoever, I'm not going to read it, but whoever posting this, George Lucas, if you download this app, you ask this question again, what's your underdog username? You got to spam us, though, because you know it would be too many. Just got booked, y'all. You got a 50 coming for you next week if you do it.

If not, we're going to move on. Forget about it. Somebody going to read some videos. You got another one? Yeah, I got another one. Okay. Follow the rules, man. All right.

So last question comes from, his username is Pepperoni Tony 4. I think that's still, I can say that, Pepperoni Tony 4. What do you think is the biggest misconception about basketball? The biggest misconception? He should have went with it. Everybody cares.

Everybody cares about it, right? Yeah. It's just like anything in life. Some people are just gifted enough to pass through it, just getting the check, getting to feed my family, right? Everybody doesn't love it, just like everybody doesn't love going to their job. They're doing it just to pay their bills.

Same thing in sports. Which is, from an outsider's perspective, we think y'all are getting all this money, but it's all relative, obviously, to whatever industry or business you're working in. But most people hate their jobs. That's just... Work is still work.

Work is still work. Which is weird, because... Like some days y'all know what it means. We work the least hours. Yeah, get paid the most. Yeah, we work the least hours, get paid the most. Shit. The biggest misconception is that everybody wants to win.

Everybody wants that. Y'all think it all ties in the same? If you care, you care about winning and losing. It all ties in together. The players care more than the owners. It means more to you. I don't mean from a financial standpoint, obviously. But we actually playing, so it should.

We actually out there running up and putting it down. You would think that if you own a business you will be running it to be Successful be invested to to be the top be invested Yeah, like but we talked about this last week full owners. That's invested We talked about we talked about this last week right for them like you look at the Donald Sturgeon mentality Success for an image should I bought this team for 300 million just sold it for five billion, right? Yeah, that's waiting Oh, that's it. We didn't win our championship. We barely made the playoffs business Yeah, that's but yeah, and we know those owners, you know, that's just that you don't take more Cuban for instance

Like he invested like he cares about if they don't call a foul for dirt more if Luca not getting the calls he he's Making a fun saying he's investing. He's making calls. I'm saying, yeah. Yeah. He's getting fined for shit like – But he comes from a fan.

He's a fan. He's a fan. This referee cannot ref none of my games no more. Oh, he doing all that. Yeah. Steve Ballmer, he's invested. I'm saying he's there. He's – like that ain't an act when he's at the game and he's cheering.

He's red as mud because them guys playing great. He's like that ain't enough Act when he's at the game and he's cheering. He's read his mother cuz them guys playing great He's into it like now that's he's invested in his team. Yeah, for sure Well, you got some other guys that they don't come out the boot running know who they are You ain't never seen them. You might know their name. It's called our group or force a group of Or it's a group of Return on investment like but it's all about. Where's my bread? At the end of this motherfucking quarter, I need to know that we made some money. That's what business is compared to Mark Cuban and Ballmer being fans of the game that can be invested in the actual winning and losing of it.

But when the owner shows up, it's like a big deal. Oh, shit, owner. Everybody, it's like a big deal. Oh shit, owner, such and such, such and such. Everybody walking around that bitch on eggshell. Yep. Everybody want to have things spick and span around this motherfucker. They take the angles a little tighter. They motherfucking send the floor clean, the rims tight. Yep.

Everybody want to be on point because the owner show up today, next thing you go back tomorrow, trash ain't been taken out. Trash, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Want to be on point cuz I only show up today Nathan go back tomorrow trash ain't been Yeah, I Got some good news to announce So we had the username George Lucas obviously phenomenal filmmaker, but he downloaded the app already hit a buzzer beater So you gonna breathe any use promo code gills arena? So you got that hundred dollar deposit match? Hey, that's why we was just stretching it out to give you time We just do the same shit underdog keeping us alive. You see the cups

I told you I listen one of y'all created his username for him. Let me find out start putting y'all motherfuckers up here So we don't start doing y'all on the summer jam screen And since y'all want to talk about how niggas look all the time attach an image of yourself as well Mm-hmm see how we got damn it. See how we just squeeze a nigga out for $100? Yeah, go and read his question, man. No squeeze. He got a deposit badge. You better download that app. Now you got $150 off top. Download that app.

Y'all better fucking run and download it. But he wants to know, has any work messed up a teammate's gameplay? No names needed, Rashad, LOL. Throw that in there. Oh, I'm going to drop the name any motherfucking way. I don't give a fuck about these niggas out here, nigga.

You was in the story, nigga. They need to know who you are. Nigga, what's up? The work messed up us? Mm-mm. I don't know no stories about the work. Has any work improved gameplay? Like, you know what you need to do is just...

Need to go call such and such. If you show harder on that... Hey, hey, hey. Yeah. Oh, good that you had over there, man. Nah, hey. Nah, nah, nah, nah. Work helping.

Was having a shoot. One player was having a shoot slow. And I said, oh, no, no. Yeah, work. Work helping. Was having a shoot. One player was having a shoot slump. And I said, oh, hold on. I got something for that shoot slump. Why are you just stressed? Hey, can you meet in the garage? All right, Maybach opens. There's going to be a play in there.

Hand me your business. Damn, that's how your live room is. And five threes. There we go. And the funny part is, that became his routine. With the work? Just work. Just before the game started, you got to go give him a head.

That's the Becky work. I told you. All the Becky work work. That was his good luck charm, boy. Not no socks, not no meal. Give him a head. You know, that's the funny thing about athletes. If you do something and it works, oh, shit.

Got to keep it going. I got to keep it going. That's my shit. That's my shit now. Got to keep it going. That's my shit now. Yeah, I don't have any. I don't know if she did or she didn't.

I have no answer for that one. Just got a text from my underdog. Said, y'all niggas is fire. No, how? We're boosting the ratings answer for that one. Just got a text from my underdog. Say, John Niggas is fired. No, how? We're boosting the ratings. With an ER. With an ER. We got players out here trying to work out, baby.

What's the work? They looking it up. What's the work? But all the players that watch this show, I hope you are taking lessons on work. If you're a work thief, like I said at the beginning of the show, you know, look in the mirror. Really address yourself, all right? But, hey, these players are getting caught with the work in real time. The only fans work.

They, social media work. It's hard out there. They're doing it wrong. See, you're supposed to keep the work on the down low.

When Facebook came, there was a lot of positives that came with it. You know, we missed the instant messenger day. A lot of positive

with the Facebooks and the Twitters and all, but a lot of negatives too. Connectivity just became a little too easy, a little too quick. You can reach out

and touch anybody, but that's neither here nor there. Appreciate you, Canyon, for pulling up all week. I'm talking about it. Appreciate you, Gil, as always, in the Yeezys. Appreciate you, Rashad. Appreciate you.

And we appreciate all you out there, man. This has been another episode of Gil's Arena, presented by Underdog Fantasy. Whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop. We'll be back Tuesday, maybe Monday, just if we get this interview we about to go get. Man, pass the work, man. Pass the fucking work, man.

This is our Paul Pierce right here. Pass the work.