Gil's Arena - Gilbert Arenas Gives His Top 5 Players To Stop The Monstars

Episode Date: July 28, 2023

Cam Thomas Enters Gil's Arena To Talk NBA Offseason & Nets Future as the young superstar sits down with Gilbert Arenas to break down his rookie season. Other NBA Topics include, FIBA's futuristic cour...ts, Aliens, taking a paycut to help your team win and the most dangerous players to get hot. Like and Subscribe!!! Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GILSARENA and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Gil’s Arena premieres every Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. SUBSCRIBE: / @gilsarena Chapters Show Start 0:00:00 Intro 0:05:22 Aaron Rodgers Takes Pay Cut To Help Jets 0:09:40 Cam Thomas Joins Gils Arena (kinda) 0:34:35 Gil Beats Miko At Golf 0:48:47 Do Ya'll Believe In Aliens? 1:05:59 Starting 5 To Save The Planet 1:08:15 What Players Mightve Been Aliens? 1:10:34 Most Dangerous Player When Hot 1:23:52 Gil and Rashad Rehash the Shooting Contest 1:40:16 Mostly Fans 1:58:31 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:00 Hold me fine, be wet, cold as the Pacific Some dudes try to start, no need to be specific He dazzled up the crowd as a wizard for years You rusty? I'm rusty. Me too. That would be a good night. It's gonna be definitely good. So, is that the night of the month? I'm hip all smoky. I mean, we're just gonna have a good time. There ain't no good time. We don't want no excuses. We just warm up.
Starting point is 00:01:11 Let's both warm up this time. No. We can both warm up. We can both warm up. We both got the whole lane. He said, you trying to make sense of me. I see what you're trying to say. I see what you're trying to say.
Starting point is 00:01:19 I see what you're trying to say. I see what you're trying to say. I see what you're trying to say. I see what you're trying to say. I see what you're trying to say. I see what you're trying to say. I see what you're trying to say. I see what you're trying to say. I see what you're trying to say. I see what you no excuse to even warm up. Let's both warm up this time. And I'm not here. He's trying to warm up. Warm up night. He's trying to warm up. Both got the own lane.
Starting point is 00:01:27 He said, you're trying to make it against me. I see what you're trying to do. I even let him warm up and everything. Let him warm up. She let me warm up. Welcome back to Gills Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. What, what? Thursday.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Everybody was on the chat before the show. Y'all know we got some special shit going on today. I can't keep a straight face. Back with the living legend, Gilbert Arena. This is all I get. You all dressed up for him. What are they going to do? I feel like a winner.
Starting point is 00:02:00 God damn. I got to represent Forrest Millions out here. You know what I mean? We got Brandon Jennings, repping Tough Crowd. For sure. Head to toe. I was on my
Starting point is 00:02:11 Tough Crowd shit too. Yeah, every time. If you wear Tough Crowd, you're going to win. No, no, yeah. I had the hat on, had the glove. It was cracking.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Okay. I had the golf balls too. I didn't want to use them. I was like, I'm not going to use them yet. I don't want them to get rough. Right. I pulled out generic. You know, I didn't want to use them. I was like, I'm not going to use them yet. I don't want them to get rough. Right. I pulled out generic.
Starting point is 00:02:27 You know, I didn't want to use them. The generials. We got Rashad McCann here rocking the crown. Y'all know. Miko Grimes. Miko, you all right? Yes. I'm rocking Sia, of course.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Okay. Today, who cares? These shoes, I'm wearing a whack. But, you know, I just put them on because I found them. I know. Whatever shoes they are, it is coming from a winner. So here's what we got cooking today. Star players take discounts to benefit the team,
Starting point is 00:02:55 but when is it time to separate the love of the game from the business of the game? Allegedly, aliens are real, so which Hoopers not being human would surprise you, wouldn't surprise you, and Brooklyn Nets bucket-get Giddengard, Cam Thomas is pulling up to the arena to chop some game. We got a guest. We out here doing it.
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Starting point is 00:04:08 what he was shouting out a lot it's like everybody the mood is bad in here man what do you mean the mood is bad you see what happens what happens you get your ass whooped everybody's dying and shit I did not get my ass whooped that's so crazy I feel some type of way
Starting point is 00:04:24 he whooped your ass you didn't whoop my ass whooped. That's so crazy. I feel some type of way. He whooped your ass. You didn't whoop my ass. You just beat me. I whooped your ass. You just beat me. That's it. There was no ass whooping. I warned her.
Starting point is 00:04:34 So you know you fucked up, right? Listen. You know you fucked up, right? When I pull up, she tried to say as soon as I got there. She did it. She did it to you. Not even going to lie. We going to start right now.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Oh, but then he ain't going to let you. You going to make me cancel? He ain't going to let me warm my cancer. That's not my fault. You're late. Hey, the warm-up, I feel parter. No, you did not. I did par. No, you did not.
Starting point is 00:04:51 I did par. No, you did not. You bogeyed on that hole and so did I. I don't know what a bogey is. You don't even have the scorecard. I don't need a scorecard. Exactly. I don't need a scorecard.
Starting point is 00:04:59 I don't need a scorecard. I know how to keep count. I know how to keep count. I missed two and then I made the third number down and shit. I'm going to let him tell his version of what happened, and then I'm going to tell the truth. Go ahead. I don't need to tell the story.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Go ahead. Warm-up won, then she said, that don't count. That was a warm-up. That's not true. That's not true. All we care about is who won. He won. Of course.
Starting point is 00:05:20 We're going to find out. I'm not ashamed to say that. He won. We're going to find out later in the show. Straight up. He won. Of course. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:26 It's a girl. It's a girl. Every day. Oh, shit. When you see... That means we're one day closer to getting canceled. One day closer. One day.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Every single day. Every single day we're closer. And one day closer. But we're going to start the show off with a little football. Now, Gil, yesterday you talked about how you regretted giving the Wizards $15 million back so they could make the team more competitive. Also recently, Dwayne Wade expressed the same sentiments, saying he regretted giving up around $20 million to the Heat in the Big 3 era.
Starting point is 00:06:00 But yesterday news broke that Jets quarterback Aaron Rodgers has restructured his deal to give the team back $35 million. That's a bad picture. That is a bad, that is a terrible picture. Somebody said it looked like Aaron Rodgers wearing a Halloween costume of Aaron Rodgers. Shout out to the internet. That is a bad photo. Why does he look like the dude from Napoleon Dynamite?
Starting point is 00:06:23 He does. Uncle Rico. Uncle Rico. Uncle Rico. But according to Tom Pelissero, the Jets signed four-time NFL MVP Aaron Rodgers to a new two-year, $75 million guaranteed contract through 2024. Rodgers had nearly $110 million guaranteed remaining on his old deal with the Packers. He's taking less for a shot at a ring or two in New York. So Rodgers already has a Super Bowl ring and MVP,
Starting point is 00:06:46 but like Herm Edwards once said, you play to win the game. Jets fans love the move, and it will surely endear Rodgers to his teammates. But let's talk about the other side. The Jets are currently valued, I want to say, at $4.8 billion, seventh highest in the NFL, and their owner, Woody Johnson, currently has a net. He went to Arizona?
Starting point is 00:07:03 Yeah. I already know. I already know. He's not intelligent, but he got a net. He went to Arizona? Yeah. I already know. I already know. I already know he's not intelligent, but he got a net worth. Dumb people get bags. Dumb people get bags, too. But he currently has a net worth of $3.7 billion, according to Forbes. So, Gil, I'll start with you.
Starting point is 00:07:17 I know what you're going to say, but I got to ask. Are you rolling with Aaron Rodgers taking a pay cut to try and help the Jets win a chip? I don't. I mean, that's what I said at this point in life. Knowing what I know, there's no point of a player taking a pay cut for a millionaire taking a pay cut for a billionaire. It sounds retarded, right? Like, I'm the millionaire. I'm trying to get to where you are.
Starting point is 00:07:40 You're telling me to take a pay cut to win. This is your business. You take a pay cut to have a winning team. But we're so convinced and conditioned since we were young that winning was everything that we don't think about the money. So it's like, all right, you want these rings? All right, you worth 20? Give me 10 so I can get him.
Starting point is 00:08:00 All right, cool, that's my man's. So I can keep all my money still Instead of said I'm gonna pay you and then I'm gonna give some to you and I take a pay cut the owner will never Take a pay cut for that ring. He wants the product to do it, so I mean I agree So I know how this side of the couch feels Now let's shift it over well Let me just say this because there is times where you take we should do it in times where you shouldn't Most times I would say 90% you should do it and times where you shouldn't.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Most times, I would say 90%, you do not take a pay cut. You're right. He's a billionaire. Figure it out on your own. I'm an employee. This is my brand. I'm building my brand. I get that.
Starting point is 00:08:38 The reason I said yours was different is because it was $15 million. You already had $170. I was like, I could see that happening. $35 for the Jets? The stinking Jets? Are you dumb? Now, I get him feeling like they can win because that division is weak. The Dolphins are there, the Patriots are there, and the Bucs.
Starting point is 00:08:57 That division is just, not the Bucs, the Bills. The Bills is the only team in that division that can actually compete with them. So I can see him feeling like, oh, all I got to do is get in the playoffs. He's a good player, but still 35 for the Jets, that's outrageous to me. Like, that's crazy. Should I see you over here? Deep thoughts? In the flavor of conversation,
Starting point is 00:09:22 I'll say Aaron Rodgers, MVP, champion, bringing the pedigree to New York, right? And he's attempting to revitalize something that's never been done, which is try to get them to a place where whether he stays or leaves, they can have something to root about, cheer about since, what, Joe Namath, right? And you look at salary cap, right? You know, if they don't have enough money to spend around him, he's just going to be the only one there, and they're just going to stink like the best thinking. So to give them some leverage to try to get something that can help him get them over those trash teams that are in that division, that can get them to the playoffs and have the city root for something outside of the Nets and the Knicks and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:10:07 I can see that, right? I see that perspective from Aaron. But then again, like you said, it's the Jets. It's just like the Browns. They fucking suck. It's like the Clippers. It's like, what the fuck are we doing, right? But I see his perspective just because he's already won.
Starting point is 00:10:20 He knows it feels like. He's a leader. He's an MVP. He can go into that situation and give them something to feel good about. So taking a pay cut gives him that extra confidence from his teammates. Like, damn, Aaron came in here and took less money. So I see both sides, but it's just one of those confidence things I think that he's doing. He's inserting himself from another side or he's
Starting point is 00:10:45 Like I don't really need that 35 right and maybe down the line like we're saying after a while He'll look back and be like And we still Good if they win the Super Bowl honestly if they don't Know you have to win it. $35 million? We got to win it. We got to win it. We ain't changing.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Where they at now? Trash, trash, trash. It's like the Cleveland Browns going to the Super Bowl. Getting there? Oh, no. Like, win. Oh, no. Get it?
Starting point is 00:11:16 Yeah. It's like football. Football. I got a paper doing forever. You'll never get there again. Just getting there. That agrees. It's fair.
Starting point is 00:11:23 It's a fair. Because Cam Newton had a chance. Go ahead. Never got back, right? You all know Thanksgiving, right? You know how we have all this food on Thanksgiving? Yeah. And we pick and choose because it's all there. And then Christmas, before Christmas comes,
Starting point is 00:11:40 and you're hungry as fuck, and you start thinking about all the food you didn't eat. That's what happens when you're done You you got you your business manager now you becoming a businessman looking at your portfolio I'm gonna fucking say 125 125 All right, it's like you even had to bump it up to 200 and then you thinking about that damn 35 item God damn it at 35 You said Thanksgiving food to Christmas Eve, no, no, no. We usually have Christmas Eve dinners, right?
Starting point is 00:12:07 No, no, no, before Christmas. You know, before Christmas. But when you're starving, you start thinking about the food that you didn't eat. I'm going to have a Christmas Eve dinner. Before Christmas. The 10th, and then go. The 10th. Okay, the 10th.
Starting point is 00:12:18 All right. You got to move that 10th. All right, I'm just saying. You got to move that 10th. Anything around Christmas, I know we're eating good. It's around that last. Before Christmas, when you're hungry, you start thinking about all the stuff you yeah, you didn't eat and that's what happens with when you're done done You're an athlete you become a businessman
Starting point is 00:12:32 You start thinking about all the mistakes you made that this number could have been a little bit higher And that's why I say you regret it at the end. Yeah, well, when did the wing way say that a Couple months ago really recent interview So so like the 20 million what when he got two rings out of that for that big three? Take a little less bread but That's interesting because it's like he already had one ring So he probably now looking back at it like the next one next who wasn't really he's looking at 20 million is a lot of money
Starting point is 00:13:03 No, for sure hard to make's hard to make it after. Right, right. No, for sure. A lot of money. I get it. He's definitely getting the checks. This is... I'm not going to say the player's name, but...
Starting point is 00:13:11 This is bullshit. No, I'm not going to say the player's name. Say the player's name, man. This is Gil's Arena. What's up? I'm not going to say the player's name. Sharunas Marshallonis. But he is considered a basketball top at least 20 player ever.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Okay. Right? And he said, legacy means nothing if it doesn't help you when you're done with your career. Right? He says, you know, having two, five rings, what does it really mean when you're done? If nobody cares about you and the game moves on. And you're sitting at home, looking at the next generation, they're talking about how this player's better than you
Starting point is 00:13:49 and this and this, and you're sitting there wishing that I'll trade all this in for... For a better manager, for a better PR team. No, for something you need, brother. I'm about to say, yeah, I'm about to say, wait, hold on. Like, if I got five rings. Yeah, rings can help you make money. But if I win a championship, like, I just felt like we should be able to tap into other things.
Starting point is 00:14:13 That's what I'm saying. That's what it is. Like, I feel like I'm going to be way bigger than I was as a basketball player. Who's your representation? With what I'm doing now. But that's what I'm saying. That's what you think. You can still make money with rings.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Your legacy means nothing if no one... Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Where's your legacy? It just depends on who you are. You're sitting behind... It depends on who you are as a person. You're sitting behind the bench doing nothing. You never had a job after that.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Right. It depends on who you are. It depends on how active you're trying to... But that's what I'm saying. What are you doing with your career once you retire, once you're done? Those rings can help you make money they can it's based on what you want to do but but the legacy means nothing if you can't capitalize right that's what the person said i get it i'll trade it all in i'll trade it all in for a real
Starting point is 00:14:56 opportunity today but the difference is i feel like if you can't capitalize right some can't right the can't isn't won't like are you trying to capitalize yeah are you out there brand you have a brand yeah that when you walk in the room it's like Isaiah said the one guy we all bow down to is Kareem Abdul-Jabbar that's the captain like he was the guy who paid the way for everybody right so it's like if the captain can't capitalize that's the captain's fault. Captain, what was you doing to put yourself out there to be like Joe Lewis, the boxer? When he finished, that
Starting point is 00:15:32 nigga was like Shaq. Shaq is the biggest, most capitalized off of everything he's done. Why is he not the biggest example of this is how you go get the bread? Go to Papa John's, go to the... General Insurance nigga. Man, what? What. Go to the generous... Man, what? What?
Starting point is 00:15:47 I see hot. But it's in you, though. It's your competitiveness, though. But that's what I'm saying. Like, when you're sitting around watching people explore the world, and you're sitting there with five, six, seven rings
Starting point is 00:15:59 on the couch, talking about, and I trade all this in for to be on TNT or ESPN. You could. Being an analyst or being a coach or being- You could. You can.
Starting point is 00:16:10 You gotta have a better manager. Get up off your ass and go- Rob Dory. Representation. Get up off your ass and go- I feel like Rob Dory could make money from the rings he won. He could do things, but he's not- He's still doing stuff, but-
Starting point is 00:16:19 Yeah, it's up to you. He analyze. I think he's an analyst on Fox Sports. I think people just be downplaying themselves too though. Yes, it's yeah, it's up to you. We and a lot of things the analysts on Fox Sports I think people just be downplaying themselves to though Like it's a lot of downplaying yourselves and you looking at you too busy looking at others when you should just be focused on what? You got to do. I think that's the thing It's a lot of insecurity or you just depending on this this game to do it for you
Starting point is 00:16:40 Do it for you say here you go. Come on. We gonna walk you into these millions of dollars You got to get out Hey, but if you don't know what door to walk in with this ring on you don't get nothing for it Like if like we have a little we won We could walk in any door we wanted to we can go anywhere we wanted to in Chapel Hill Like we wouldn't know where we couldn't go we were getting the ship free But if we was stuck on the car we couldn't go. We wasn't getting the shit for free. But if we was stuck on the couch,
Starting point is 00:17:07 we wasn't going nowhere, you wasn't getting shit. You don't walk on the lot, you're not getting a whip. We were out here playing. Every day. And also, like, that's your fault. That's your fault for being an asshole.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Burning bridges. Burning bridges. Should have been a cool nigga. Should have been cool. Let's talk about the flip side of that, though. Should have been, you know, should have been out here. If players get praised for taking pay cuts to help the team win, should teams get criticism for making players do that?
Starting point is 00:17:30 Like, your bum ass couldn't even run your team correctly, so now you're asking for it. I mean, that's a good point. Nobody does that, though. Nobody talks about the Jets. Nobody ever talked about that. Like, ugh, niggas, like, Malone just got 500 mil. You can't...
Starting point is 00:17:42 How come you keep driving a star-used quarterback every year? Like, you just can't get it right. 500 mil for 10 years get it right by the way Hmm, I'm gonna mill for ten years. It's trash. It sounded good at the beginning That's like magic Johnson signed that one year when you five million dollars for one that was like 30 It was like 28 for 30 with some crazy shit back in those days Before 90 before was Jerry Stackhouse 94? That was 95 draft? Mm-hmm. Before the 95 draft, whatever Jerry Stackhouse, before that draft, Big Dog signed that $90 million. It was something wild.
Starting point is 00:18:12 $90 million for 10 years. At that moment in time, it sounded good. It looked crazy, yeah. That was the end of his contract. Yeah. That was it. Was it all guaranteed, though? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:21 It was? But, I mean, everybody else, there's players in that same draft made 200-something million with the same numbers. Wow. But he was in such a long deal that after the... You know, you play your four years, you could have... He was 10 years 68 million. Stuff like that in baseball sounds good.
Starting point is 00:18:37 His agent should have been responsible. But as a rookie coming in, somebody said, you got a 10-year 68 million dollar deal. You coming from Purdue. But that's still your fault. I mean, it's the Scottie Pippen deal. That's still your fault. Yeah. The Pippen deal was a bad deal.
Starting point is 00:18:49 It was nasty. Yeah. But they're looking at that. When you're coming as a rookie, you're looking at that longevity. That's what I'm saying. Championships are made off of bad contracts. Bad contracts makes dynasties. You can't be a dynasty if everyone is being paid to their potential.
Starting point is 00:19:07 You can't afford it. So you... there has to be someone that gets fucked over. So Magic got fucked over. Magic got fucked over. Then it became a dynasty. But look at Magic now. Think about this Aaron Rodgers thing. Is it a bad contract that could potentially put them into a situation?
Starting point is 00:19:22 He got... You talking about the younger back? Like the Steph shit, like the Steph? Like with Steph, you know, they got him for pennies on the dollars compared to his talent. So, was it 65 million? Steph, I thought was like four for 44 or something. Yeah, something like that.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Yeah, horrible deal. Right for him, for his talent. No, but that was the market though at that time. And he was injured. No, it wasn't the market. And he was injured. Yeah, but it was the market. That's when Ty Lawson had got 48. Everybody was getting 40 and 44. And he was injured. No, it wasn't the market. And he was injured. Yeah, but it was the market. That's when Ty Lawson
Starting point is 00:19:45 had got 48. Everybody was getting 40 and 44. Everybody was right there, so no. Because nobody took off. Yeah, nobody took off. Drew Holiday was
Starting point is 00:19:53 all-star. No, James took off. James took off the next year when he got traded from OKC and he got that 80 for 5 from Houston.
Starting point is 00:20:01 That's what took off. They had them Jordaneras. Then you look at the Spurs. All those guys are underpaid. Yep. That's what I mean. But they them Jordaneras. Then you look at the Spurs. All those guys are underpaid. Yep. But they won. Huh? James had it cracked.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Because when you're underpaid, you can keep adding all these other pieces. And you can lock it. And the franchise gets to keep making their money. Yeah, you helping my valuation play, boys and girls. Like, I'll tell you this. When Boston won that championship, they said for them to break even, they had to win the championship. And they did. That might, look. That to break even they had to win the championship and it did Make me feel like the Jets might actually cuz as the owner think about see what they do with that
Starting point is 00:20:33 Ticket prices taking that 35 back. I know you're raising ticket prices. Mm-hmm. You get more national games there Already everything's going up if the price of everything Jersey sales being there think about ownership, right? If I own a building and you're paying rent you pay your rent on time. What does that do to my credit? Make me good. Thank you. Go pay your rent on time nigga helping me when you show up and I pay you as an owner and I give you what I give you and you take it Come show up play good for me for sure and we go win and when we win I win yeah I get my evaluation we keep going up but if you don't take it and you you demand more
Starting point is 00:21:12 you're like hey man I'm not paying that high ass man you need to bring this shit down no you need you're gonna have to move get out of the game so as a star player how hard is it to balance the love of the game and we talked about this yesterday how hard is it to balance the love of the game? And we talked about this yesterday. How hard is it to balance the love of the game versus the business of the game? Like, we talked about this before the show. You're on a championship team, right? You might be a loser. But you're one of those 12 guys. You get a chip.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Now you're automatically seen as a winner versus you might be a winner on a losing team. You're doing everything you need to do. Showing up early, putting in the work. Numbers, everything. But you're going to get the blame if that team is trashed. Ownership rarely is going to get that blame. It's rarely going to trickle all the way up to the top. As players, we know who the winners are and who the losers are.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Yeah, for sure. Exactly. And I think that's kind of Gil's point he made on my post. It's like, there are loser-ass niggas on winning teams that are still just losers. Right. But they got credit as a winner. But we know that if they go on another team, they're not going to go lead that team to a win. They just got credit for it. And that's the dynamic of the conversation that needs to be understood is that winning is a pedigree. It's a mentality. But you can get credit for being on a winning team just like being in a
Starting point is 00:22:25 winning company or a successful company and you didn't do shit just like you were talking about when we do the group project and i did all the work and we all got an a turn it in right we all got an a like i i literally did all the work but you can go and say i i'm an a plus student too yep i got that and then just to shift it back to basketball, James Harden, right? Harden takes a pay cut with the Sixers. I want to win. They get bounced second round. He opts back in. That'll all surprise us, but it seems like they have some type of handshake
Starting point is 00:22:53 deal going into that. Like, all right, just take this pay cut now. We're going to break you off. Then you don't get that. And now you're basically fucked. You got to wait another year now to sign an extension. He deserves it. I'm not taking no pay cut. I'm not taking no pay cut.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Fuck all that. You see how it backfires. Nah, I see what you're saying. I'm not taking no pay cut. Not from no billionaire. No, yeah, we were. Like, not from no billionaire. That's like that theory when rich people go get free shit.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Right? It's the same thing. We're going into a business, and then we're expecting for you to give get free shit. Right? It's the same thing. We're going into a business and then we're expecting for you to give us free shit. Yeah, the dinner's on y'all, right? My presence is here. That's the same thing how the owners are.
Starting point is 00:23:35 It's like there's this, we should be grateful that they're offering this type of thing. But it's one thing like, say a designer or whatever sends you some gear, you wear that. Now people see that. Like, Brandon sent me some Tough Crowd,
Starting point is 00:23:51 and I wear that somewhere. I'm going to get a bunch of publicity. Now people ask, that's one side of it. But yeah, I understand what you're saying. Like, I don't know, it's hope. The owner's like, I'm going to give you this. I mean... Now I need you to go.
Starting point is 00:24:02 I mean, you should be grateful. I mean, you should be grateful, though, because God is putting you in that position. I mean, you are talented. A lot of people don't get an opportunity to be around billionaires and get paid. So to me, I feel like, yeah, you should be grateful. If they are, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:15 they are helping you change your life. I mean, I can't help that he's, you know, he put himself in a position to be able to pay others and be able to have a business. So I think you should be grateful, too, at the same time I learned I learned I learned from the chick that I was dating She said, you know, we used to pay for the bottles at the club went to the club with her one night
Starting point is 00:24:34 And she was like, uh, you paying for this They supposed to be giving you free shit when you walk up in here, because you are the life of the party. People are coming to this club now because you are here. And I was like, Talk to them. Points were made. I said, wait, what? She said, oh yeah, we don't come into no club
Starting point is 00:24:56 without the motherfucking whole booth paid for, any bottle we want. We ain't paying for shit. Because we here. I don't say her name, but that changed my dynamic of how shit is done when you rich. And you got money, and it's like, hey, man, we got the value in our presence here.
Starting point is 00:25:14 It should be that we're bringing more value to the place. Okay. Hold on. So that means y'all wouldn't take no pay cut. Because taking pay cut is getting you paying for those bottles. What you mean? You know how you said you would take a pay cut for the business? That's the same thing.
Starting point is 00:25:33 No, we said take it for the rings. For the rings. It's the same concept. If you're buying your own bottles, you're helping the club. If they pay you to come in club if they pay you To come in here. They give you bottles out of their pocket It's not the same concept. It's the same concept. It's ring cuz it's technically range is a reward The ring is and you get drunk and take 15 You was a reward you were saying that if you would say that the club has the reward as the girls something else is like
Starting point is 00:26:03 I get it, but remember they're paying either you're gonna pay you're going to come out of pocket, which is a pay cut. I'm going to come out of pocket to have a good time. Or they're going to pay for you to have that same good time. So you wouldn't take a pay cut for that club. So she has you see it. But they're not necessarily paying. They're just giving us free bottles. They bought it.
Starting point is 00:26:23 They're giving us free shit. No, they bought it even though it's pennies on the dollar They bought it with their own money So even though it's up charge I bought it for 20, you know 50 bucks and I'm charging 150 now I'm giving you and that's the reason why it's not a big deal for them to give us free shit Compared to us paying no For it, right, but the conversation yesterday was about those five rings. It's a championship. Yeah, it's a whole experience.
Starting point is 00:26:52 I'm coming with the... If Beyonce and Rihanna is at the end of that night... The bottle's not a championship. No, the bottle's not a championship. Wait, the club? Yeah, I'm saying... That's what comes home with you. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:27:05 If B and Rihanna, one of the things I want, J-Lo, one of them things is coming home with me at the end of that night, that's a championship. There we go. That's a championship. Yeah, man, if I'm in the club, I'm getting free bottles and it's being all that. I'm definitely going home with a win up in there. That's a fact. That's a fact. That's not a fact.
Starting point is 00:27:23 That's a fact. That's a fact. Not to your land. That's a fact. Not to your land. You's a fact that that's a good name. That's You get three bottles you get Party in my prime and I'm in a club with and they've given me free bottles and all this I'm going home with something that night. What if you got a girl in my prime, huh? No, I'm gonna know No win for everybody in there. I'm just talking about like it. No, I'm talking one
Starting point is 00:27:44 Shut up. You know, need is one. As a win. I mean but if I go to the club and I'm by myself. If they find out that you're in town, like you're sink, like you're definitely going home. If I go to the club right now and you're giving me ten free bottles, I'm taking, I'm trying to take all ten home. They're all coming back with you. Party at the crib. That's what I'm saying. They're all coming back regardless. Everybody can handle 10 women now. Heard it. Got it.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Who's that? I can handle it. I can look at 10. I just like it. I can look at 10. You see what? What's happening? What's happening?
Starting point is 00:28:16 What's happening? So we got this side that feels one way, this side feels the other way. Are we going to meet in the middle at all? Mine relates to where you are. No, we can agree on this. I don't know. Where you are in your career, how much money you've already made.
Starting point is 00:28:28 That all depends for me on where you are. For you, I felt like 15 for a ring for you was worth it. That's just my opinion. For you. As an investment to try to win something. It didn't pan out.
Starting point is 00:28:43 I personally feel like if you win a ring, if you're a champion, me personally, and I don't know this, maybe you would still have been an idiot and bring those guns into the damn arena. But I feel like maybe you don't do that when you're a champion. Maybe you're like... I think it gets worse.
Starting point is 00:28:59 I think if he win a ring, it get worse. It get worse. I hope he changes his whole perspective what the hell he would be. I hope he changes his whole perspective on his job, on his career. If you are a champion, you move differently. You're trying to get another one. But I could be wrong. When you're done playing, right?
Starting point is 00:29:16 You're done playing. You got your bag, right? Everything is good. Your next thing to do is what? Be a business person, right? Right. Right? Now you're trying to sit here
Starting point is 00:29:25 and try to figure out real estate or investments and this and this. Now you're trying to build money. Yeah. Once you realize that it is hard to make a million, two million, three million a year, you start thinking about the 40 and 50 million dollars
Starting point is 00:29:43 you got rid of for this But you see keep adding money because it would take 15 don't it don't matter It don't matter how much it is. It don't matter because that yes team to have one year Yes, it's gonna take you 15 million probably five six seven years to make the same 15 million You're missing is that's the problem. I wouldn't say 40 and 50 million already covered this 15 We didn't already covered. So I'm gonna go 20 minutes into this. How much how much I Most of these players when they're done how much money did if they made 15 million dollars since they've been done playing He got two rings. I'm not arguing with that. I mean, he got three rings. I'm not arguing that, though. That's not what it is. And he marketable. It is.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Let's keep this thing moving because we got Cam Thomas has pulled up. He did. Oh, yeah. So we got a special guest making his first appearance at Gills Arena, entering his third season with the Nets, prolific bucket getter since high school, setting the scoring record at Oak Hill, branding your alma mater as well.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Ain't shit funny. Led the SEC in scoring as a freshman at LSU. And he's the youngest player in NBA history to drop three straight 40-point games. Cam Thomas, welcome to Gil's Arena. We got him? We figuring it out right now.
Starting point is 00:31:01 We're a black show. Here we come. We are a black show, so we have black issues. BET Plus on the way. Hey, we need to get this shit on Tubi. Damn. Tubi? Hey, we want to get on Tubi. We need to get a bad show on Tubi.
Starting point is 00:31:16 God lord. That is a bad show. Tubi is lit. I don't care what y'all talk about. Tubi making money. They can't get it? That's like Miami Memorial Day weekend. Have you seen the one video to do who shot the bullet There you go. Hey Hey, man, you can smile man. God damn. No, I ain't shit. You can't hear shit in years
Starting point is 00:31:42 And shit funny to him? Buckets. Ladies and gentlemen, bear with us. Black show. And we're supposed to get this shit right before we even get this nigga. I'm glad it's a trial run because I got somebody that I want to have as a guest on there too. At least the connection look good. It does. Look at it. He hasn't spoken yet.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Say something. What if he can hear us? He's just not fucking with us. Yo, can you hear us? Fuck, that's my guy. We're just not fucking with you, Gil. I heard something. Yeah, we can't hear you. I heard it. Y'all gotta turn our shit up. I heard it in there. What's up, Cam? Can you hear us?
Starting point is 00:32:26 He can hear us. Can you hear us? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you got to turn our mics up. Turn it in here. Our speakers up. Man, y'all getting fired, man. This is why you fire white folks when you can. When you can fire white folks, you fire white folks, man.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Just do it in February. February 1st through the 29th. Yeah, stay here. All right, so ask him a question. So, Cam, what's going on, man? It's still early in your career. You've shown what you're capable of doing when you get the opportunity. What are you focusing on this summer to get you right for next season?
Starting point is 00:32:54 Yeah, I'm really just focusing on, like, really just getting my body right. Conditioning. Louder. I expect that. You need to cut his phone up. Turn your mic up, Cam, so we can see. No, no, no. It's not him.
Starting point is 00:33:03 It's our speakers. They need to push it out here. I said my shit loud as hell the chat can hear we just can't yeah I can hear him on this hold on can't bear with us for one we got baby we're trying to get this thing right we live ours ours need to come all right go ahead camp sorry let me ask you again what are you focusing on this summer to get right for the season yeah i'm just really just focusing on like just really like just getting my body right condition ass but i mean obviously the all court stuff is there you know you know we all who but we just gonna keep working on everything
Starting point is 00:33:41 but really just getting my body right and just being in more, like, better shape, better condition. For sure. Now, Gil and Cam, I know y'all got a relationship. Gil, early in your career, you weren't playing a lot, but made the most of your opportunities. What advice would you give Cam going into this season? You know, me and Cam talked, you know, I watched him before, was it pre-draft?
Starting point is 00:34:00 He was working out for, he was with moms, you know, over at the district. And I just, you know, love the mindset, the work ethic, how he got his shot off. So I said he was gonna be good. It's just sometimes our careers don't start off the way we want them to, but it's never about in real time. You still gotta work, train, be professional because you don't know who's looking. You don't know what team is looking, what team needs what. So you still have to go out there
Starting point is 00:34:33 and just get better. Sometimes we get into our, I did it myself. I got depressed. I wasn't playing. I'm looking at players play. I technically mentally gave up, physically gave up. And you can't do it, right? You just got to keep working and working and working. And when they call your name, you ready. Shit, when they called your name, you was ready. Yeah. We can't take that. You was ready.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Yeah, yeah. Had to be. Had to be. Because we was, like, transitioning from, like, the super team to, like, you know, getting those guys out of there. Because that was when Kyle got traded, again, like, the day after. And then K got traded, like, two days after. So it was like we was starting to transition a little bit. So I was like, shit, I mean, they got to play me now.
Starting point is 00:35:18 You know, KD ain't playing. Kyle ain't playing. So I'm like, hey, you might as well go out there and kill. Yeah. So let's talk a little bit about that. You play with, obviously, KD and Kyrie, both future Hall of Famers. What did you learn from them about manipulating defenses to be able to get buckets?
Starting point is 00:35:33 Yeah, really just, like, really everything, really. When I was in my rookie year, K told me just, like, always get closer to the hoop. Because sometimes, you know, when you first come in, you take, like, long, long,, like long twos, long middies. And then Eli told me just, you know, try to get in like the paint area to get to your middies. Because, you know, it's always there, honestly. So he was like, start from inside out.
Starting point is 00:35:56 Because, you know, kids now, they try to go three ball, then to the hoops. You know, because K got like an old school game as as far as inside out middies, pull ups, and then he'll go out to three. Because K don't shoot a lot of threes for everybody doing today's game. So that's really the main thing. And Kai just caught me. Left hand, right hand. He got everything, literally everything. So I learned so much from know, I learned so much from them, and, you know, they really helped me in my career so far. So let me piggyback on that. So you believe that KD and Kai helped you become a better player, just watching them, being around them, even that what you just said,
Starting point is 00:36:36 that little bit of information that KD, did that help you become a better player? Oh, no. I mean, really just, you know, it's just good info to know about the league. Because, you know, coming in, you don't really know too much about the league, really. You don't really prepare, especially when I came in. It was like a cold year, so it wasn't really like a whole lot of runs in the summer. It was just like working out and stuff.
Starting point is 00:37:01 I didn't really have a real fall season. So I went straight from summer league. We played summer league into like training camp damn near basically So it was like I really have a chance to prepare for the season like I wanted to But really just you know, I made that I mean, you know, definitely definitely good info. So that's probably the main thing I'll take home. Yeah, so basically, you know, thank you for the info, but I'm him. Yeah. Hey, he tried to set it up and got rejected again. Who got rejected?
Starting point is 00:37:32 No, no, no, no, no. Who got rejected? He tried to come in with the backslide and got it. He said the information. What's the information? But he had to go do the work. What's the information? You went to go do the work, right?
Starting point is 00:37:45 You had to go put in on your own game, right? Oh, yeah, for sure. Did the information help you do that? Did the information help you? What's the same? No, he was built. He's been doing this. What is the same? What is the same?
Starting point is 00:37:55 All right, I got a question. So how was your experience at Oak Hill and also your top, your starting five ever out of Oak Hill. Oh, say that again. So tell me about your experience at Oak Hill. I mean, you went there a different time than I did. And also your starting five at Oak Hill ever. Yeah, the sound went out. Sound went out?
Starting point is 00:38:24 Can you hear me? Yo, can you hear out? Cam, can you hear me? Yo, can you hear me? Yo, can you hear me? Yo, yo. Yo. Yo, Cam, can you hear us? That means that last answer was capped. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Hello? Damn. Damn, what happened? Oh my God. That's all that means. Hello? That's all that means. We lost the audio. Damn. Damn, what happened? We'll get back to you. Get back to you. All right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:51 Can you hear us or no? Nope. Clearly can't. All right. Well, let's try and figure that out. Again, Black Show, Tubi's finest. Tubi watching live. We headed right to Tubi.
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Starting point is 00:39:31 Is he back yet? Can you hear us yet? Can you hear us yet, Cam? A Wi-Fi, man. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Gil Zerino. This show is live. As always, let me remind you this is brought to you
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Starting point is 00:39:52 we can get better Wi-Fi. We can bring y'all better quality interviews. We get the audio right. But we're working on it right now. But just amongst yourselves, Brandon, for you, what was your experience like? Oak Hill. Just that lineage. Stepping in. What have you, what was your experience like Oak Hill?
Starting point is 00:40:06 Just that lineage, stepping in. And what have you seen from when you were there to now? I just visited Oak Hill about probably like two years ago. I mean, they definitely have better Wi-Fi service now. They can definitely get off campus more. But I think when I first got there, I played with Nolan Smith my first year. And, you know, he was there to help me out a lot.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Just get adjusted, being the way California kid coming all the way to Virginia to play ball. And I think the nearest thing was like a McDonald's and a gas station, like 45 minutes. But I think... From the school? Yeah, from the school. Oak Hill's like up in the mountains.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Who's your top five? So, that's why I was about to say, you give us your top five O'Kill. My top five O'Kill? I just saw Jerry Sackhouse top five O'Kill and I wasn't in it. Not that personal, but I probably wouldn't have passed it to him.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Is it beef? No, no, no, no, no. Who was his top five then? He picked Rondo at the point, but I understand because Rondo would pass the ball. Me, I averaged 35. I wasn't passing. But my top five would have to be myself,
Starting point is 00:41:08 Nolan Smith, I'm going to go with Cam Thomas, I'm going to go with Melo, and I'm going to go with Josh Smith. No Stack Jack? No Jerry Stackhouse? No Stack Jack? Because I don't know if Stack... Wait, did Stack Jack finish?
Starting point is 00:41:24 Yeah. At Oak Hill? Oh, he graduated? I think so, yeah. So I guess that would be hard because, you know, once the player gets to the NBA, he's not going back looking at his high school. And it also depends on how many years you were there too, right? Does that matter?
Starting point is 00:41:37 Yeah, like a lot of guys came like one year. I came twice. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I went two years, and then guys started doing like three years now. Like they're starting to go three years. Right. But like it's usually like you get them on their last year. So it's kind of hard to be like, yo, if he's the best there.
Starting point is 00:41:50 Because it's like, well, sometimes they just go in there for their last year. I'm hearing something. We got Cam. Cam, you hear us? Still figuring it out. Yeah. That's why I just host, okay? I don't do none of that other shit.
Starting point is 00:42:05 None of the shenanigans. But we don't play for state. Like a state championship. Y'all got fifth years there too, right? No, no. You have your own individual division that you're in, right? No, no. You could play again?
Starting point is 00:42:15 Y'all don't play for state? Do y'all play for national? No, we just play for the national. So if we don't beat, if our whole schedule, if we don't go undefeated, we don't win nothing. Yeah. So we don't play for no state championship, like none of that. We don't have no division. Because don't win nothing yeah so we don't play for no state championship like none of that we'll have no division because because i think i think because the way it's set up like because we recruit from everywhere so it's like you know us like like like
Starting point is 00:42:33 us playing for the virginia state championship every i mean we'll have one every year so it's like we only play for the national like finley prep right in vegas yeah same thing it's a super it's a super prep team yes everybody else step else step your game up. It's so funny But we don't have 15 years. We don't play for Nationals No, California. Yeah, we don't get that's retarded. But that's stupid. We are the news. What have you done? I'm one team. Is that why just so good? It's not fair to other states. This is a basketball dominant state though Well, that's crazy But that's a but if you're allowed to recruit if you're allowed to recruit and build a team, how come we can't?
Starting point is 00:43:07 Because y'all got the most players that go for fifth years to go to other prep schools. A lot of California players that don't come out that senior year, they go to the East Coast. We got about a year. Who the hell wants to do a fifth year? In high school? Yeah. Sometimes you have to because you don't get the grades. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:27 Or you get hurt. MCL tear. You want to get another year. Oh. I just feel like, hey, I'm going to come back again for my fifth year. I'm ready to get the hell up out of here. I'd rather you do fifth year versus hold back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:41 No, I hold back. No, I'd rather hold back when he's in middle school. That's what I did. You stay back? Yeah. No, I hold back. No, I'd rather hold back when he's in middle school. That's what I did. You stay back? Yeah. The reason- Because I got put back into my right grade. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Because I was always playing up. Yeah, so if my mom didn't put me back into sixth grade, I would have graduated in 07, and I would have been 17. Okay. So that's not for me, and that's not like- Like, yeah, so I was always playing up until my mom, my mom held me back and I was playing my right great They had that ruling Cali, right? You couldn't play past like 19 some of those dudes. Yeah, we're so close to Everybody so the camera's over what we doing think they're still working it out
Starting point is 00:44:22 Is that the first time you guys have had one on on me? No, it's a second second. I think the first one go first one was good. He was white First time madam I try to give him the white handshake. He did I was like, I didn't know but I'm sorry. I'm sorry. He thought she was white too I know we can do We can talk about how you got your ass hooked on that golf course Oh Segway You know, you don't fucked up right? I mean, I know he's texting me Say thank you to cam guys. Thank you. Can we still working on cam? Let's work on that You're not Thank You Kim alumni. I think we okay alumni have a keep getting buckets a little footage of we have a little footage of That ass whooping that we we got can we play that for the crowd while
Starting point is 00:45:26 we figure this camp thing out told you to leave that nigga alone now that's we go we gonna show it out for a little bit we still working on it so we can play that until they get the shit together no because you're not gonna tell the truth I know I mean we clip is showing you're not telling what this really is what would really what the clip that you're play. You're not saying what really happened in that clip. We know what happened. Yeah, I missed the ball, but you're not saying what led to it. You can talk after.
Starting point is 00:45:54 You want to do it now or we want to do it? Play that clip right now. Let Gil run the show. Let Gil produce the show. Gil's Arena presents the first annual Gil's Arena Open. Let's show the clip. I'll show you the 400. Like, it's literally we drove to the thing. Oh, and look, if y'all golf game like that, I'm going to pro-compete y'all. I'll show you the 400. Like it's literally we drove to the thing.
Starting point is 00:46:17 Oh, and look, if y'all golf game like that, I'm going to pro-compete y'all. We up, we up. What's up, everybody? And then he gonna tell me, you can't even get the ball to the hole in the par five, Miko. That's what he told me. He basically said I can't hit the ball far, which, no, I can't hit like a man. But you're a girl.
Starting point is 00:46:37 But, yeah, I know I'm a girl. What's up, Chad? I'm just saying. I don't want to hit 50 years. I'm just saying, why was my mom like... Nah, you don't want to. You don't want to go give a girl another... I hit 300. You got to... It's going to take you three hits just to get to one hit.
Starting point is 00:46:52 But you don't... You act like you hitting a hole in one or something. Like, are you doing a hole in one? You still got a putt, you still got a chip, you still got to do all those other parts of golf. We ready to get it? I don't know. Trev, you're peeping, man.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Oh, no. I'm proud. You see the tough crowd? I ain't see it. Yo, what is that? Yo, this is it. Let's start this shit. Oh, we live?
Starting point is 00:47:15 Yeah, we live. Yes, we live. Man, I'm over here trying to show them niggas my golf shit. Mm-hmm. Pull it up, because we want to see it. I'm about to pull up on this yeah i see him too i wish i would know if gil's gonna duck the fade again today let's get it off before we even start the show it was happening i'm like bird man are you ducking the golf fade today because we have first of all you're trying to go golf at 8 3030. No, 4.25. No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Yesterday, he said, yesterday he said, I have a nap at 4.30. I said, okay, well, let's do it tomorrow. You said, okay, tomorrow I'll do it. Yeah, I'm talking to all three of y'all. Put some respect on my name. You told me. Why do you think I'm scared? You're scared.
Starting point is 00:48:02 I don't know if this is feminist, but you're a pure woman. You're scared. You're not feminist at all. I'm scared scared I don't know if this is feminist weird Not feminist at all Hit the ball every 30 yards how what am I fucking my skin at folks? I think I'm gonna one hit 300 yards is gonna take you all day to get there. The funny part is that's where the fourth sweet That's where Forbes swing. That's where Forbes swing. There's no taker all day to get 300 yards. Nobody worry about you. You think because you can hit further than me, you can beat me, that's it?
Starting point is 00:48:44 You know, there's like chipping, there's putting, there's other parts of the game. Unless you're hitting hole-in-ones, you still got to complete the process of getting the ball in the hole. That sounds cute in theory, right? I'm not losing. I'm not losing the dog to no girl. You're crazy. If I hit it 300 yards and it it takes you three hits to do that, I can fuck up all day.
Starting point is 00:49:06 It's not going to take me. I can fuck up all day before you get to the first hit. All right, I'm not worrying about it. We on the par five. It'll take you 25 shots to get there. No, no. But what was the competition? She can't handle the pressure.
Starting point is 00:49:18 She missed twice and then hit it four feet. Look at that. She's picking up both her balls, right? Right here. Look at that. The chat is 100% people saying I'm going to win. Okay, fine. So then prove them right then. What you scared?
Starting point is 00:49:30 Come do it then. Come do it. Come get some. Whoa. Excuse me. That's simple. I flew out here with my clubs to shut you up. So don't make me fly all the way from Florida with 12 clubs
Starting point is 00:49:45 for nothing. You got all 12? All 12 in my car right now. I just used three. She picked up one. She's about to pick up her other ball. Look, look. She's looking for her other ball. Look, right here. She right there picking up her other ball. We going all the way down that switch. You called me trash in the group chat.
Starting point is 00:50:05 You said I'm sorry and I'm trash. And you posted me trying to shade me. So come get the fame. First of all, you posted you. You posted me in the group chat, though. I did not post you. It was your Instagram. Yes.
Starting point is 00:50:16 Public. Yes. You was trash as fuck. Damn. You swung hard as hell with four feet. And this is who y'all voted. This is 39% of y'all voted. Huh?
Starting point is 00:50:29 Grab it. I know you can. Four feet. Like, you think I'm worried about four feet? She think we have a flat butt. That's fine. That's fine. You know what? So, come beat me then. All button. That's fine. That's fine. You know what?
Starting point is 00:50:46 So come beat me then. All right. Come beat me. Is it 4.30? Another challenge. All right. Oh, not no girl. Not no girl who started one month ago.
Starting point is 00:50:57 And she, we want to see if she got that same smoke when, yeah. It's a girl. I'm not losing no woman and nothing. I swear to God. I swear to God. I swear to, you better play. Oh's a girl. I'm not losing to no woman and nothing. I swear to God. I swear to God. I swear to... You better play... Oh my God. Boy, that's smokin'.
Starting point is 00:51:16 Come on. I'm not... It's on now. We're getting it crackin'. I'm not losing to no woman and nothing. Driving, swimming, nothing. One more try. We're getting it correct not losing to no woman Watch the mara chat she'll. She gonna be sitting right there, hot as a motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:51:48 Yeah! Yeah! Oh, that's cute! Keep your same energy! Got my first point! Yeah, I'm here! I'm here! What's happening? If you beat me, cool, you beat me. But if you lose...
Starting point is 00:52:02 No, no, no, it can't be that. It can't be if I beat you is cool He beat you You can talk your shit, but what I'm saying is if you lose to me I'm not listening This is this is she's gonna hit six Oh my Lord. Mercy. Gil, why you didn't... Why you didn't... That's not what actually happened.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Yes, Gil. Great footage. You know you done fucked up, right? Uncle Shook got you. Gil, did you miss any balls? Did you shank any balls? No, you did. I shanked and still won a hole. I didn't record you, though. I didn't record you because I don't care. No, because you know you did I shank and still want to hold you though I didn't
Starting point is 00:52:46 record you because I don't care no because you seen how good I was let's give that's not true let's give the true disclaimer of what that clip was do you want to say or you want me to say what really happened so when we get there I'm playing I'm already four holes in got a par I'm playing great are you getting there explaining no no no I'm, no. I just want to explain what that is. I'm teeing from the ladies tee, right? Gilbert says, and Darrell was like, do not do it. Do not fall for it. He goes, let me just see you try to hit from the 500, you know, or whatever, from the men's tee, which is like 500 yards.
Starting point is 00:53:24 And I was like, you know what? Fuck it. I'll try. I know I can't. I know that's not in my game. I was going to fuck up my whole swinging technique. So I just tried it. That's it.
Starting point is 00:53:33 That's what happened. But wait. That's literally what that was. It was me trying to hit the ball as far and hard as I can just to see. That wasn't even a part of the game. That was me just trying something. Almost like if somebody said to me, imagine we were shooting a three-point contest
Starting point is 00:53:50 or something, right? And we're in the midst of the competition and you say, Miko, let me just see if you could try to make some four-pointers. Just for shits and giggles. That's what that was. And it's fine. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:54:01 But your form wouldn't change, though. You still hit the ball. I am a brand new golfer. That's where I It's fine. I couldn't do it. But your form wouldn't change, though. You still hit the ball. I am a brand new golfer. That's where I messed up at. I'm trying to swing my, like, almost take my shoulder out because it's 500 yards. It was just me trying something. You think you would have hit the ball if you were just hitting from the women's tee? I did.
Starting point is 00:54:19 After that, I did hit from the women's tee. That was me trying to hit from the men's tee. That's it. All right, so look. Basically, what she's saying is from the yellow tee, right, from the yellow ones, the woman's tee. That was me trying to hit from the men's tee. That's it. Alright, so look. Basically what she's saying is from the yellow tee, right? From the yellow ones, the women's ones, she sucks, right?
Starting point is 00:54:32 She can hit the ball sometimes. No, that's not true. You move it back a couple more feet for some reason. That's not a couple more feet. Blue, she can't even hit the ball. That's not a couple feet. It's almost a hundred. Did y'all notice she didn't actually hit the ball in no way. I did too, Gil. I did. Two different times hit it. I did. Two different times.
Starting point is 00:54:47 Yes, I did. You weren't recording then, remember? I recorded. No, no, no, no, no. No, you even said, I wish I was recording. Recording the first one because you missed the first two. No, I didn't. Went to the bushes.
Starting point is 00:54:56 You went to go pick the balls up. No, you recorded the ones I missed. No. I hit those other ones far right. Those other ones. I did. Who won? He won. Bird in. Those other ones. I did. Who won?
Starting point is 00:55:06 He won. Bird in the hand. Listen, if she hit the balls, why are we still? How can I put? She was missing. I was like, oh, shit, I got to record this. We're still here. We're still sitting here.
Starting point is 00:55:17 We're still here. There we go. I just said that. I was trying to see if I could hit the ball from the 500-yard mark. Can't do it. You can't. It's not successful. Moral of the story is... We'll see you next summer. Yeah, but how many
Starting point is 00:55:29 shots did you beat me by? How many? I don't know. I wasn't counting. Because you... Like that right there. So like that hole right there, I didn't even... I didn't even... I didn't even... You did, but you didn't finish that hole. I hit it, and then I'm like... You didn't finish that hole. I did it, and then I'm like, it took her 12 hits.
Starting point is 00:55:46 I'm good. No, that was practice. I can't. That was practice. Moral of the story is, I want chicken and broccoli for dinner. Moral of the story is, I'm not losing. Get your ass in that kitchen. Get your ass in that kitchen and cook me something.
Starting point is 00:55:57 I owe him dinner. I owe him and his kids dinner. But my point is, you beat me by two. I can cook non-vegan food. I fried chicken for my mom and my sister yesterday. I told you. Vegan chicken? No, stop playing.
Starting point is 00:56:08 No, I didn't. I'm sorry. First of all, no, I didn't beat you by two. Yes, you did. Listen, she didn't even count this video. More like a story. There was 12 hits here. She didn't count it.
Starting point is 00:56:19 Here's how it went. Here's exactly how the score went. Gil showed up right after we finished four, okay? Fourth hole, which I parred. First time ever. Shout out to me. Anyway, the fifth hole, we're getting ready to start the fifth hole. Wait, hold on. So out of all the golf you've been playing for a month,
Starting point is 00:56:36 that was your first? Okay, go. I've only played twice. I told you that. It's only my third time playing. Are you fighting for a loss right now? No, no, no. I'm just explaining the score, what happened. He shows up at the fifth hole, and I say, we're on now. He goes, no, you're going to try to McCants me. I need to warm up.
Starting point is 00:56:51 Don't do me like he did me. Is that what we're calling it now? That's what he's calling it. The McCants me? He said he tried to McCants me. The McCants me. You know, the McCants me means, what am I be doing to people? What am I be doing?
Starting point is 00:57:05 He's already warm, and then he wants to challenge We told you the tea times 425 in the spirit of him not crying about whatever happened I said fine this fifth hole doesn't count to you because you need a warm-up hole fine. We'll start at six He said cool. So fifth hole don't count. What would I do in the fifth hole? You got par. Okay. I got par still. Okay, so fifth hole don't count sixth hole sixth hole which counts We both bogeyed we both bogeyed Darrell can vouch for this. Okay Seventh hole is that one that you guys saw right there that he didn't finish. I finished it at a double bogey What's double bogey. That was the bogey to Yeah
Starting point is 00:57:50 I just told you that that was just so You know from the ladies Listen to what we see her take seven hits Right now we're gonna add she move to the yellow and double bogey off the yellow This is yes, that's too much Now we're gonna add she moved to the yellow and double bogeyed off the yellow She don't even get to go the next turn I was just trying this he wanted to see what look like me hidden from the men's side kicked her I went from the ladies. Oh, he refused to finish the hole. He goes, you missed too many times. I said, Gilbert, that don't count. That's all I had to do, switch a little league. The eighth hole we both played, he got par, I got bogey.
Starting point is 00:58:33 You won that hole. Eighth hole. That's the first hole he won. I bogey, which means that one shot he beat me by, right? The ninth hole, when we get there, Gilbert realizes he left his fucking putter at the eighth hole had to run back to the eighth Hole to find his putter so he didn't even play the ninth hole. I did play that hole. No you did not you played the tenth That was the last hole we played The rail the rail we already talked about this what would I do on a you you part and you won that one
Starting point is 00:59:02 Oh, and then I left. Yes Me and Darrell played the ninth one. Oh, and then I left? Yes. Oh, okay. And then you left. Oh, then I left. Me and Darrell played the ninth hole. Okay. Okay? The tenth hole, he caught up to us. Mm-hmm. And he parred, and I bogeyed.
Starting point is 00:59:12 So that's one shot win on two holes. The other one, we both did the same thing. Okay, so in theory... Two shots, you beat me by. So... Two. So I won every hole we played. You didn't get a win.
Starting point is 00:59:22 No, no. You didn't win one hole. No, we tied on the sixth. But did you get a win. No, no. You didn't win one hole. No, we tied on the sixth. But did you win a hole? No. Okay. You tied. Nobody won that.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Never lost to no girl. Never lost to no girl. You won by two shots to someone that's only played golf three times ever in their life. She was getting her ass whooped so bad that she had to change it to, we're going to play per hole. We're going to play per hole. I don't know any other way to play, Gil. And you agreed to that at the beginning, so stop. I didn't care.
Starting point is 00:59:48 I don't know another way to play. Like I said, I'm new. I'm brand new. And I said, we're going to go by hole. That's the L-C. How many holes can you win? How many holes can I win? That's what we did.
Starting point is 00:59:57 We played. You know the rule. Y'all should be ashamed of yourselves, ladies out there who voted for the. That's okay. Two months. 46%. Give me two months. Two there who voted for the that's okay two months give me two months give me two months you won Gil fair and square you won
Starting point is 01:00:13 fair and square you beat me by two shots good job you beat a girl that's only played three times with her first time playing with her first set of clubs good job way to go and you can't hit the ball And you can't hit the ball. And you can't hit the ball 400 yards. You can't do that.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Like you said, you lied on that. That's the problem. I didn't even... No. You can't challenge him and then make it like... I didn't even get my power off. But you can't challenge him. Why can't I just say he won?
Starting point is 01:00:36 But look, you challenged him, right? I did. And then you... Because he said I was sorry. Now you're making it like him beating a girl is not a thing. No, it has nothing to do with a girl. But you're like, oh, he beat a girl. You challenge him.
Starting point is 01:00:47 He beat somebody's soul. He beat somebody's soul. I didn't even get to use my power. I beat her because my touch was so nice. He didn't know my touch was nice. No, Gil. Remember you said, you can do the power. How are you going to putt and do all this?
Starting point is 01:00:59 No. Putt was phenomenal. Phenomenal. No, I gave you props on your chipping. My chipping, my putting was phenomenal. Your chipping was regular. Your chipping was phenomenal. Phenomenal. No, I gave you props on your chipping. My chipping, my putting was phenomenal. Your chipping was regular. Your chipping was good. Your putting was regular.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Your chipping was good. Your putting was regular. Your tee was trash. And you hear from the ladies, too. Match. Good shit. Give me two months. That's all I got to say. Give me two months. That's all I got to say.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Give me two months. Before we proceed with this convo, we just want to apologize. Can we see Gilbert hitting the ball bad, though? Can we see that? Because he's trying to act like I'm the only person that shanked ball. We don't need to. You know why? Why?
Starting point is 01:01:35 Because you didn't win a hole. That's fine. That's fine. So what's up? Before we go any further, we want to apologize to Cam Thomas for your technical difficulties. Cam, we appreciate you pulling up. We're going to get you back on the show soon. Yeah, man, I had a good question, too, bro.
Starting point is 01:01:47 We had a good-ass question for you. Shit. I didn't even get to do it. It's all right. You should just email him. See if you can make him just respond. Email me. Niggas answer emails?
Starting point is 01:01:55 I don't think niggas answer emails. All right, can we get back to basketball? Let's get back. Let's get back. All right, let's talk a little bit. We're going to talk about aliens. But there's a basketball pegging in this shit. Do y'all believe in aliens?
Starting point is 01:02:06 Peg? I'm an alien. Pause. I'm an alien. You want to say pegging? No, there's a peg to the topic. But there was a UFO hearing on Capitol Hill Wednesday with the House Oversight Committee investigating an alleged cover-up by the Pentagon of a program on UAPs, which are unidentified
Starting point is 01:02:23 aerial phenomenon. But during the hearing, a dude dropped this bomb about some of E.T.'s cousins. Do we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted this craft? As I've stated publicly already in my News Nation interview, biologics came with some of these recoveries. Yeah. Were they, I guess, human or non-human biologics? Non-human biologics? Non-human, and that was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the program I talked to that are currently still on the program. So we know black people don't take shit seriously,
Starting point is 01:02:56 so the jokes started flying like them. I believe it. They coming. Niggas found out it was aliens yesterday. All we want to do is get the jokes off. That's why I love us as a human race and people. Doing this for white folks. You know what you're turning up? You sure?
Starting point is 01:03:11 He done finished the wine. I'm not doing alien talk. No. That's 15% wine. But he just finished it. I drank water. That was water. You turned water into wine?
Starting point is 01:03:22 Yeah. You're not talking about aliens? You're not talking about aliens? What are we talking about? That was water you turn water into wine. Yeah You're not talking about aliens what we talking about good do you believe it? No not at all We're the only species living here on this earth How long you been on this earth longer than you okay, have you seen one of the motherfuckers up there? Yeah. I've seen people record things. Yeah, I have. Have you?
Starting point is 01:03:49 With your eyes? Yeah, with my eyes on my phone. Yeah. No, no. With your eyes in the sky. No. In the sky. Not on the phone.
Starting point is 01:03:56 Not from the... When we go outside and we just look up in the sky, have you seen UFOs flying around this I think I have. I don't have any proof, though. But other people have shown their proof of it. I think I've seen men in black. Yeah. I believe it is. There's so much shit flying around as much. I think I have. I don't have any proof, though. But other people have shown their proof of it. I see men in black. Yeah. I believe it is. There's so much shit flying in the sky. Yes. We can't think that we're the only
Starting point is 01:04:11 species here. God needs to come on home. Save us. Y'all been on all these flights looking out the window. Y'all ain't seen not an aircraft. I be asleep on flights. That's my sleep time. Alright, this is what we doing. If we go down, I don't want to know. Question hypothetical for y'all.
Starting point is 01:04:26 If the Monstars came back to Earth looking for a rematch, which current NBA starting five are you assembling to save the planet? Wait, what? The Monstars. First starting five are you assembling to save the planet against the Monstars? If they came back. Current player. And we have to pick five right now.
Starting point is 01:04:41 Ooh, follow Kyrie. Everybody healthy? Everybody healthy? So Shaq healthy? No, no, we're talking about right now. Current plan. And we have to pick five right now. Ooh, five. Five. Everybody healthy? Everybody healthy? Everybody healthy? So Shaq healthy? No, no. We're talking about right now. Current plan.
Starting point is 01:04:50 Current plan. Like, why are you trying to go back? Yeah. Let's stay right here. Let's stay right here. Okay, so let's get the Europeans. I believe we need them to save us. We need them to save us.
Starting point is 01:05:01 Shit. Come on, Joe. Come on. Come on, Greek. Shit. You know, the aliens, they probably might be a little athletic. And then come on, Braun. Come on Greek. Shit. I'm with you. You know, the aliens, they probably might be a little athletic, right? And then come on Bron, come on Bron, come on Steph. Kyrie, I want Kyrie on my roster.
Starting point is 01:05:12 And KD, come on, let's go. Let's get it. We're going big. Ill ain't even with it. We going big. Earthlings, how many? Seven games. Whose one is this?
Starting point is 01:05:22 I'm playing with the Monstars. I don't know about y'all. I'm playing with the Monstars. I don't know about y'all. I'm playing with the Monstars. I'm on the Monstars team. Starting shooting guard for the Monstars. What if the Monstars ask you to take a pay cut, though? I'm taking a pay cut to be on the Monstars team. I'm going to be...
Starting point is 01:05:39 We're dominating and invading this planet. If we haven't already. Listen, you heard my five. Them Europeans, they coming with me. Two of them. They saving the league. Saving the league. Thanos is here.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Saving the league. They saving the league, girl. We gonna be up here. I don't believe alien until I see it from my own eyes, okay? All these aircrafts falling. All these aircrafts falling. And with our technology, ain't no real footage like boom. Oh shit Vegas that was just footage last month in Vegas. There was he talking that was wimpy
Starting point is 01:06:12 you gonna be the first one try to fuck some alien pussy anyway, so This episode is going to go down in history. Gil, for sure. For sure. For sure. I'm pretty sure all men are going to try. No, this is true. I'm pretty sure all men are going to try. It might be a little cheaper these days. Wild people.
Starting point is 01:06:39 So, I know you don't believe in aliens, but which players in NBA history would you not be surprised to find out that they were actually aliens? Ron. Ron. Ron. Ron. Ron. Shaq. Ron. Shaq. Mike. Mike. But which players in NBA history would you not be surprised to find out that they were actually aliens? Braun. Braun. Braun. Shaq. Braun, Shaq, Mike. Mike.
Starting point is 01:06:50 Mike. Mike was sore. Mike an old alien. I think Iverson, too. How he that little? What kind of aliens are they? Braun's a reptilian. The Predator.
Starting point is 01:07:02 I don't know. The Men in Black Ones. I don't know what they're called. Zents. Oh, Vance. Vance. The Men in Black Ones. I know what they're called. The Men in Black Ones. Kobe. Kobe. Steph. Steph is short alien.
Starting point is 01:07:12 Steph is short alien. He's an android. Yeah. Yeah, I've seen Steph play beer pong. No one do that. He was nice. He played beer pong too? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:21 It's the same thing. How's he good at anything? It's the same thing. Steph made a hole in one and ran the whole time. Yeah, I'm about to say, yeah, I saw it. No, Ant said at it like that made a hole in one and ran the whole Said that wasn't his best shot. Hey, we're in the hall. Yeah didn't sweat. It's hot as fuck He ran around this way didn't break a sweat and said that's not even yeah Yeah, I watched him play 18 holes of golf and then we were playing beer pong and he was whipping everybody ass and he was Just they needed it was just like this. Yeah, we got test. Yeah, is this I'm blocking
Starting point is 01:07:44 I'll take the I that's all presentable. I'll take the L. I mean, we all seen LeBron, you know, get swept or attempt to get swept, go to the locker room, change his blower body, come back out. Vince Carter alien.
Starting point is 01:07:55 He put a new body on. A whole new body on. Vince alien. Dennis Rodman? No. Huh? Regular? Dennis might be alien.
Starting point is 01:08:03 Nah, Dennis, yeah. Dennis Rodman might be alien. Dennis flew to Dennis, yeah. Dennis probably might be an alien. Dennis flew to Vegas, partied in the back. I mean, are we talking about looks or smuggling motherfuckers out there? I mean, it's smuggling. I'm sure the aliens ain't cute.
Starting point is 01:08:15 No strays on a Thursday. So let's keep this thing moving and shaking because you don't believe in aliens, so we could have talked about it, but I thought you would have been conspiracy theorists stars moons quasars your mom I just to be honest I don't believe in a lot of shit right mm-hmm like you know buildings that was built in 1855 that's still up I don't believe
Starting point is 01:08:37 that shit mmm they're there you know last week But that building over there 1855 still up and perfect get the fuck out. You got a link in my house Built to power. I don't know when it was built, but I got a leak and motherfucker. No, I don't believe like there's a certain number I just don't believe it was so you believe in the pyramids How they building bigger? I don't talk about the pyramid. I don't believe in cowboy era And I know a lot of black cowboys. I don't believe in the cowboy era. Damn. I know. A lot of black cowboys. I don't, that. Not because I did. Just, just, pow, pow.
Starting point is 01:09:12 I'm sorry, man. My brain can't process that era. I'm just like. So, flat earth or round earth? Oh, God. Uh-oh. Flat earth or round earth? You believe the earth is flat or it's round?
Starting point is 01:09:25 Round? Good. You believe it's round? Because they told you? I don't know. I don't even think about shit like that. Exactly why we shouldn't be asking him. To be honest, I don't...
Starting point is 01:09:36 Hey, Gil. Hey, man, if the world came to an end, Gil would be the one to survive. Yeah. He just won't get through shit like hell. Flat? I don't even know. Where'd everybody go? Like flat like a box? Like flat. It's just flat. Like the way we are. Yeah Like up like flat like a box like flat is just flat like the way we are like like you say flat like a box
Starting point is 01:09:56 Like a box right did you say flat like a box? Yeah a box is flat Like flat size pizza's flat like flat size a. Also like a pizza. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. So like, that's how the world's supposed to be? Yeah. That's how they thought it was back in the day. Let's not do this. I don't know, man. Nobody has actually done any research. I feel like we probably need to do this.
Starting point is 01:10:14 Gil don't care, man. Gil just trying to see another 24, man. Gil want to see another 24. He don't give a fuck. He just going to be like, well, I saw it. God, look at me. I'm like shit like that like you know, I mean like Straight we could be straight come to girl house. Yes, I support I seen it, but I you know, he was coming from monkeys and shit
Starting point is 01:10:37 Wow, why why because they turn into my field? He's a turner the humans right now like I, I know. Them motherfuckers just evolving. They not doing it though. There's just shit that just does not register in my brain, so I don't even think about it. But there's a theory also that dinosaurs is not a real thing anyway. It was made. That's not even kidding. They say last day is a monkey, first day is a human.
Starting point is 01:11:00 People like, yo, you don't go to the pyramid, you don't go sightseeing. No, I don't believe in none of this shit I see. None of it. I don't know none of this. You're going to die right here. Go to Italy, watch these buildings. Man, fuck all that. That's the end of that shit.
Starting point is 01:11:15 That's why I don't travel. Nothing to see here, huh? Do you feel like we're living in a city? Gil, I bet if you travel, your whole life would change. Your whole life would change if you traveled. You should stay single, too. But you went to China, and China didn't do nothing for you That's see now you on my thing. They didn't have they didn't have like right piping for the for the sewage system
Starting point is 01:11:38 So the fuck were they doing the last hundred years if it's if it's fucked up today where they've been doing the last hundred years You see what my brain goes like? Oh, no Just built like fucking couple years ago If it's fucked up today, what they've been doing the last hundred years. You see where my brain goes? Like, oh, no. China was just built like fucking a couple years ago. I ain't trying to get into all this, man. Yo, something's wrong with you. We're going to do our job today. Something is wrong with him. We're going to piss every single person on the planet off,
Starting point is 01:12:02 except for the city of Detroit. Motherfuckers riding around the country in horses. Hey, yo, did you, um, did you walk the Great Wall? Yo, did you, uh, walk the Great Wall of China? No, it's too long. I don't do all that just walk on just... Nothing? Nothing just made you want to go out there? No.
Starting point is 01:12:20 History? No. More than room service looking at the shit that makes sense to me. Cartoons. Come on, man. What's wrong with y'all? History? No. I'm more than room service looking at the shit that makes sense to me. Cartoons. Come on, man. What's wrong with y'all? It's cartoon. It's cartoon, makes sense.
Starting point is 01:12:30 Like, what's wrong with you? Oh, Bugs Bunny is on. Like, the shit I think about is who came up with the color yellow and why is it yellow? That's, you know, like, the shit I can, yellow, who came up with this? This is brilliant. Do they still get paid today?
Starting point is 01:12:42 Damn. Who's that family member? Hey, I saw something on Twitter. It was basically like, why is today Thursday? When was the first Thursday? Who's the nigga that can't track? Yeah. Why do we have Monday through Sunday? See, that's the shit I be on,
Starting point is 01:12:56 man. Why does it have to be morning and night? Why do we have to go by time? But there are answers to that. You just got to look for it. Ancient aliens. By the time I do all that I don't went to a point I'm good. I mean well, I mean I mean read the Bible read the Bible read the Bible They're beyond a lot of answers out there like this why I keep my mouth shut about that shit
Starting point is 01:13:17 you ask me why I wear this crown because I'm superior So I don't even get into it Just know I wear cuz because I wear it. God damn it, I ain't going to call myself the king of shit, but I'm king of everything. Yo, what would you do with a billion dollars? I'd buy a lot of shit.
Starting point is 01:13:34 A million dollars ain't really... A billion dollars is nothing? It's debt. It's debt? To who? Why is it debt? To the... Because it's paper.
Starting point is 01:13:47 Paper needs to be backed by something valuable why do you care because I was on gold I'll go buy gold my gold you're gonna buy gold to do what would they do what though it's like where would you live and stuff I'll go buy gold. Buy gold. You're going to buy gold to do what with the gold? To do what, though? It's like, where would you live and stuff? I would go get the gold and then have conversations with my Saudi friends. So you would move out there? I wouldn't have to move anywhere. I would have conversations.
Starting point is 01:14:18 They would actually talk to me. They don't talk to people with paper. They talk to people with assets. Gold is an asset, so the conversation I would be able to have with them would be different than a Floyd Mayweather would have with them. If you don't have gold, silver, or anything worth something- Boy, I got that. You don't think Floyd got that?
Starting point is 01:14:38 Boy, I'm just confused. So you're going to use the money to buy a different kind of money? No, no, no, no. It's not a- Oh, use the- It's valuable. It's just it's a value system Currency is a value. Okay, so what I'm saying paper in the paper is not a value. Take this paper This is a different way to buy gold boy. I got a whole airport in Dubai like My own island and have my own family my my own community, my own, you know.
Starting point is 01:15:06 Black welfare. Yes. Are they going to get annoying after a while? Are you going to boot them off? If I own the land, I'm building the houses. This is something I'm actually working on now. I don't have a billion dollars, but it doesn't cost a billion dollars to do this. But I would like to buy some property in another country and build like 15, 20 houses on that land and sell them to people.
Starting point is 01:15:24 I would choose to be my neighbors to run this community with. If I'm buying an island, ain't nobody, can't nobody come on. No, I'm confused. But I'm confused. No, no, no, you can pull up, but... You need help. But like, I'm building, that's like a...
Starting point is 01:15:35 Like, if I got an island, it's a private... Like, I'm doing like, what's that one movie with DiCaprio? Oh, the island. The beach. The beach. Yeah, the beach. Like, I'm building something like that. But you need somebody there.
Starting point is 01:15:46 You need people. You need someone to feed you. You need your kids to have education. You need all kinds of stuff. What he would use his gold for. No, no, no. I don't care what he's going to use the gold for. It's to get the gold.
Starting point is 01:15:58 So you're going to use paper money that don't mean nothing to buy something that means something. So instead of using the paper to buy a car, you're going to buy the gold, and the gold is going to buy the car? Do you want a history lesson? No, I'm just saying, like- You said you don't understand. Yeah, just- Do you want to understand?
Starting point is 01:16:13 If I can buy the car with- Yeah, yeah. Do you want to understand? Gio's Arena on a Thursday. Yeah, I want to understand. 1933, they told people to take in their gold and exchange it for paper, where gold was the standard before the paper. And when that happened, gold became obsolete because they said, here, we're going to give you this piece of paper that you believe is gold. It is not.
Starting point is 01:16:36 And you're all going to operate on this paper system. So now you can take paper to go try to buy gold back, which means that it's more. It's worth more than the paper. So I would actually need paper to go get the gold, which I can't just go get the gold by itself unless I'm mining it. So the whole system that was created with paper, with niggas think they rich because they have a bunch of paper, is an illusion because you don't have anything behind it. Gold is the standard. The standard is gold. That's why they call it the gold standard because that is the metric of value. So if you don't have
Starting point is 01:17:12 gold and you only have paper, you really don't have any value. You just got a bunch of paper. No, I get that. But that's not true that you don't have any. No, no, no. Listen, I get that. You can buy gold with your paper, then you have something. I get all... Listen, I get that. I'm saying if you have a billion dollars in paper, and then you go take that paper to buy gold, and then that gold buys you the house and the cars. No, the gold doesn't buy you anything. The gold creates a sovereignty, just like this crown creates a sovereignty.
Starting point is 01:17:41 He asked you what you're going to buy. Yeah. I'm going to buy gold which which creates my own Did you have just have gold sittings? No, no Because now my sovereignty is that I you can't infringe on my area because this is my area Sovereignty is a different conversation than just being rich and wealthy No, we're asking you what you are A billion dollars I want to buy a billion dollars.
Starting point is 01:18:07 I want to buy. Look, that's too deep for me. Like I said, you wanted a history lesson? I'll give you one. I don't know. I'm just asking. I'm history. I'm asking what people would do with a billion dollars. I mean, I'll give you some different shit.
Starting point is 01:18:16 I would buy some gold, but I'm still going to keep. I'm getting my own community. I would buy some gold bricks, but I'm still going to do my own stuff. I have a billion dollars, and I'm going to buy something, and I now have a billion dollars in gold. But I can't use the gold to go buy nothing. You can. Because gold is worth more than paper. If I can go take my gold.
Starting point is 01:18:33 You're going to have to exchange it. I can go take my gold. No one's taking gold as a. And go buy a car with my gold bar. No, you cannot. Yes, you can. No, you cannot. No.
Starting point is 01:18:41 So I can take my gold bar and go buy a house with my gold bar. Okay. Okay. No, they're going to. I've never heard that. They're going to need you to exchange that. They're not going to're gonna need you to exchange they're not gonna tell you what the rate of gold is and they're gonna say this how much what do you say if you can buy if you can buy a house with a gold bar you gotta just go for it you gotta try that you can buy listen i mean i've never seen it i'm just saying gold bars are rare you can buy so one gold bar you can buy a house one gold bar is worth at least 50 million
Starting point is 01:19:08 One gold bar. So like so how big is the gold bar like this like? Depends it could be this big blue cut get these long to be a small slim All right, but listen, all right, all right my bad. I'm sorry y'all we got off the rails a little bit We're trying to buy I'm gonna go get a little bit. I'm going to try to buy... I'm going to go get a gold bar. I'm going to try to buy a house with it and see if it's really accurate. So you're going to have a whole different...
Starting point is 01:19:31 Chad, we appreciate y'all sticking with us. But I can also buy that house with the same paper. Never mind. Whether it's paper or gold bar, take it under Dog Fantasy. Download the app. I want the result. I don't give a shit what I get it with. If it can be
Starting point is 01:19:45 dog nuts. I got enough of it to buy this car I want. There you go. So let's keep this thing. We'll be back to a basketball discussion. Then we'll probably go off the rails again. But you posted an interesting question on your IG recently. Do we have that? So in their primes,
Starting point is 01:20:02 who's the most dangerous when hot? You had Dame, you had Steph most dangerous with hot when hot you had Dame you had Steph you had Melo you had Clay it's not even a conversation bro Steph when hot right
Starting point is 01:20:13 when hot Steph so Gil do you agree with Brandon I pick when hot I pick Clay when hot why'd you pick Clay because
Starting point is 01:20:22 out of the three his hot can it's hard to control his hot because he doesn't need the ball. Dribbling, he's, you know, two dribbles, like he scored what, 67 points, less than... Like 11 dribbles. 11 dribbles, so when he gets hot it's more dangerous because he's moving. It's hard to double someone who's coming off screens and doing all that. So it just seemed like I wanted to go with Dame originally,
Starting point is 01:20:49 but I was like, well, Klay is hard because even when he scored 60, he had Curry and KD on the floor. But because he shoots so fast and he can get it up so fast, it just seems like once he gets high, it's hard to go. So you picked Klay? I picked Klay. And who'd you pick? I haven't picked anybody yet.
Starting point is 01:21:05 Oh. I'm picking Steph just off the OKC game. I'm picking Steph. Like that OKC game, I feel like that was Steph's coming out part. That OKC game, when he hit them threes back to back and seat walking and uh-uh.
Starting point is 01:21:18 I feel like that hot was like, that took him to another, I feel like, another level. But I understand what you're saying with Klay because that 63 with 11 dribbles is crazy. And then you him to another, I feel like, another level. But I understand what you're saying with Clay because that 63 with 11 dribbles is crazy. And then you got to go, to me, I got to go Dame and then Melo after that. If I'm ranking it. Who you got, Gil?
Starting point is 01:21:39 Who's order? You got Clay first. Who do you pick after that? In order, Clay, Dame. Clay, Dame, then Steph, or Mello? We got to get some more gentlemen's cut on here for you. It's so hard because it's three different types of hot. I'm just saying, like, when it pours in, when we're talking about hot,
Starting point is 01:21:58 that means it's boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. It's Steph. It's got to be Steph because his hotness is like, if Steph gets hot, right, and he hits all. Has Steph scored 60 yet? He don't have to. He don't even play in the fourth quarter. A lot of those years.
Starting point is 01:22:13 A lot of those years he didn't even play in the fourth. I feel like his hot always goes. It's always going to be. It's always a momentum to where it's like the team is about to take off now. His hotness is like. Steph K to blazer 62 back in 2021. Where, okay, let me ask you guys a question, okay? Let me show you.
Starting point is 01:22:29 So between Steph and Klay, how are they getting the ball to score their buckets? I don't know. Steph is bringing it up. Steph is bringing it up. Yeah. So Steph comes down and boom, boom, boom, shoots the ball.
Starting point is 01:22:40 Yeah. Right, that's how he gets hot. Or it comes off screens. And they come off, you know, all that, yeah. So someone has to pass Klay and Steph the ball, so he has to screen for them to get them the ball. Yeah. Right, that's how he gets hot. Or it comes off screen. And they come off, you know, all that, yeah. So someone has to pass, play, and step the ball. So it has to screen for them to get them the ball, right? So if we can neutralize that, it can stop that hotness, right? Dame and Melo got the ball in their hands.
Starting point is 01:22:56 They're creating their shots to stay hot. I believe Dame is one because he's going to come down. He can get it off the bounce. He can get it off the dribble. He can get it off the step back. He can get it off all of that shit, and he's going to come down. He can get it off the bounce. He can get it off the dribble. He can get it off the step back. He can get it off all of that shit, and it's going to go in, go in, go in. But Melo is post-up, middie, three-ball, bring it up. It's a different type of hot that you can't really turn off.
Starting point is 01:23:20 I feel like you could turn clays off. You could turn plays off It's never been it's never been turned off with those two What do you mean it's never been it's never been I mean they're still hot they just won a championship last year so When they get hot who's when they're hot who is the most dangerous person when that's that yeah, I would say dance Because you can't because you can stop me. I can bring it up. He has the ball. I can pass it off.
Starting point is 01:23:48 You can't stop me. Yeah, he's hitting it from way more ways than me. Because if I want to come down and shoot three in a row and make three, I can do that. You can't stop me. And Steph goes to the whole... It's everything. It's like you said, levels to the game. Steph has every level.
Starting point is 01:24:00 But we're not talking about who is the best scorer when they're hot. No, no. Come on, when he's hot. Who's the most dangerous when hot? Dame. The person who can score 37 in the quarter. If Dame's hot, he still can't win. That's not Dame. So it doesn't matter. Dame. There's only
Starting point is 01:24:13 one person who scored 37 points in the quarter. No, no, no. That's the one person who's done it. I scored 35. That doesn't mean Dame can't do it. No, it can't. But it doesn't mean he can't do it. Not 35 in the third quarter. Oh my lord. It doesn't mean he can't do it. He can't do it. I mean, I'm just saying like being hot. I just feel like being when they're hot though, it leads to winning. So it's like, I mean, I mean hot is okay. Oh shit. I'm hot. Okay. The question is who's the most dangerous? Not least danger.
Starting point is 01:24:42 When you say in danger, what does that mean? Winning, winning. I mean, he's dangerous. That means when he gets hot, he's going to win. He can get a win for his team. I don't care about, like, I don't know. There's nothing about win. Who is the hardest motherfucker to guard when they're on fire? When they're on fire. When they're on fire.
Starting point is 01:24:56 Who is the person that you don't want to guard when they're on fire? Does this list? Because he don't need no dribbles. He don't need nothing. You think Steph needs dribbles? He can just do whatever. Steph don't need dribbles either. He can come up at whatever. Steph don't need dribblesbbles. He don't need nothing He can come up Down he's doing he doesn't need dribbles God damn damn God damn
Starting point is 01:25:25 No I got the collab coming and shit, but goddamn. But goddamn. I didn't even think this was going to be cut. Goddamn, no. I didn't even think this was going to be cut. This motherfucker winning. He's still hot. He winning fucking golf tournaments. I mean, he's just hot. That's not. We're just talking about when they get hot.
Starting point is 01:25:34 Right. Who are you scared of? Steph. Steph. You should be scared of somebody who's going to turn that hotness into wins and to a championship. I'm not about that. We're talking about individual. When you have to guard someone, who will you be scared to guard when they're on fire I'm not scared to guard nobody can win a game
Starting point is 01:25:52 when he's hot I don't care where he's getting well get off they meet up be hot and get off and lose by if you lose and you're hot then you lose you fucking loser the fuck care about you scoring 70 and losing Devin Booker was fucking hot and he fucking scored 70 guaranteed a whole bunch of Boston players that would pick him well no that one like I don't want to I bet I bet not I mean let's ask the chat who's the hottest so the chat has a dark horse who's not included in this they're gonna pick Katie probably they saying Kyrie okay okay I mean I like that one too. He wasn't on there though Yeah, boo's gives arena
Starting point is 01:26:27 Because you gonna get that any type of way so it don't matter. Yes, come on. You want it? We get to hear right here. Just throw it right here. What's the difference Kyrie Kyrie and Dame? What's the difference? Yes. Oh the concept of no thought one can shoot from 40 feet pulling up like I Don't think that you there's only one. there's one person who don't have no concept of score in time My dame Play don't have no concept of scoring time, but he has he's just gonna shoot. Yes. That's not as the ball. No matter It does nothing with me. I mean somebody else is controlling when don't matter. Okay?
Starting point is 01:27:02 Let's just say you get to pass him the ball a hundred times. It doesn't matter. We're saying who don't you want to guard? Because you got to come off those screens if you're guarding them. And you got to come off the screens with Steph. Look, I got Steph and Clay one and two. Okay. I mean, after that, you know, y'all can figure around with the mother two.
Starting point is 01:27:19 All right. Go ahead. What's yours? I told you. Name is mine. Gilbert Arena. Gilbert Arena. What's the ones like? you. Name my mirror. Name is mine. Gilbert Arena. Gilbert Arena. Who writes my checks? My pick is Underdog Fantasy.
Starting point is 01:27:33 50 most dangerous is 40. I mean. Is there two different ones? They got Steph. Play Steph, Dame, Mello. Hold on. You got to just pick one. Mello's nine. Dame's 15%. So right now, Steph is winning, Melo. Hold on, you got to just pick one. Melo's nine, Dame's 15%. So right now, Steph is winning the initial vote. I mean, because people like it.
Starting point is 01:27:49 If you win it, that's the hottest. I feel like Steph is always hot. It just makes sense. And I'm a LeBron guy, so that means a lot for me to say. I don't know how the credibility of the chat is supposed to be validated. We're just merely telling you. I love the chat. It's basically an average. I fuck with the chat. It's an average. We're just merely telling you. I love the chat. It's basically an average.
Starting point is 01:28:06 I fuck with the chat. It's an average. You're getting everybody in there. You're getting fans that are not smart. You're getting fans that are smart. You're getting haters. You're getting lovers. These fans, they all watch the same thing.
Starting point is 01:28:16 They all got two eyes, right? They ain't stupid. If you on the street. If you on the street, though. I ain't stupid. I'm watching. And you see somebody in the chat and they say, what's up?
Starting point is 01:28:24 They're like, I'm from the Gills Arena chat. Are you dapping them up? You said what? I had a guy. You don't know if you're dapping them? What am I doing right now? What am I doing? I'm minding my business.
Starting point is 01:28:40 I'm dapping them up in the chat. I mean, anybody I see. I'll give you this. Anybody I see. Give me up. I hired a task rabbit to come. I had, when I was finishing the third floor of my house,
Starting point is 01:28:52 and I had boxes probably covered this whole room, just trash everywhere. And I hired a task rabbit to come just basically take the trash and go. Soon as he walked in, he said,
Starting point is 01:29:02 I'm thinking he's talking about Brent, you know, me being Brent's wife. As soon as he walked in, he was, I'm thinking he's talking about Brent, you know, me being Brent's wife. As soon as he walked in, he was like, you're from Gale's Arena. I watched that show. I'd be in the chat. I was like, oh, that's dope. That was kind of dope. And I keep on hiring him for all kinds of stuff now just because he said that.
Starting point is 01:29:18 Because I can go give anybody money to do a job, but the fact that he watches the show. So he goes out there and takes out the trash? Huh? He goes out and takes out trash? No, he's his job. He's a task rabbit. Do you know what that is? No. So that's somebody you can hire on an app to do whatever job you have. Maybe you have like... Like a handyman. Handyman.
Starting point is 01:29:33 He's a handyman. A handyman. So I can hire go on that app and pick anybody as my handyman. You hired him to take out your trash? Yes. And you still had your golf club? What does that have to do with anything? I'm just saying. I keep Yes. And you still had your golf club. What? What does that have to do with anything? I'm just saying. I keep hiring him now just because he watches the show.
Starting point is 01:29:52 I don't like that list. They should put Kyrie and Katie in there. It should be other people, yeah. Like, it should be more than just those four. Then we will argue more. Because I think it changes. I mean, Kyrie, if Kyrie gets hot, I don't think nobody want to be on a highlight reel
Starting point is 01:30:08 with Kyrie getting hot. That's scary. Because you getting... That's scary. Oh, that, everything. And Kate, the fact that Damis has so many different back-to-back-to-back 60s, 50s, 50s, 50s, 40s, and you're not even considering the niggas.
Starting point is 01:30:21 We are. I'm absolutely considering them. You know who else could get that? Unbelievable. You know who else could get that in this era right now? If he was still playing, Monta Ellis could do what Dame doing. No, he can't. He don't have the range.
Starting point is 01:30:32 No, no, no. What? He don't have the shooting range. No. He don't need the shooting range. He can score. He can score, though. But I'm saying, like, when you can shoot the ball,
Starting point is 01:30:43 it's actually a lot easier to get to the basket versus we just sit in the lane with you. So you don't think Monte can do the same thing that he's doing today in this era? Monte Ellis. No. We're putting up 40, 50 from the... Pulling up from 40 feet?
Starting point is 01:30:56 From his nickname is what? Something like that? His nickname is Logo. If Monte's playing in this era with the way they're playing now, I think Monte could. What? I think Monte could. What? I think Brandon Roy could, too. Mid-range middie?
Starting point is 01:31:10 It's just, I mean, I'm not going to stop shooting the mid-range. I'm going to just get 40 off the mid-range. What was it? You said they could do the same thing. How many jumpers was it? A lot of jumpers. I only shot eight free throws. Now, so imagine, but now you see it because people want to play off you.
Starting point is 01:31:26 Like, we want to see if you can make these. All right, cool. This is easy. I mean, okay, you're 60. I had 27 free throws. Okay, so what would you do today then in this area? That would be 80. That'd be like 70, 80.
Starting point is 01:31:40 Because, like, I mean, I would have had 60 if I would have scored at least five points in the first quarter. It's really hard. I mean, it's just depending on how you wanna I don't I just think this air is more like it's more space like for you to like You know the shots that you were taking back then wasn't it was looked upon and then I was like so much you value to like They have different styles different game You know, I mean like everybody doesn't do the same things. But they all are bucket getters, that's for sure. When Steph and Dame are the only two guys, when they come across the half,
Starting point is 01:32:13 it's your ass. Clay. Clay, too, though. When they come across half with the ball, Clay, too, though. If your ass is not pushed up on these two specific players, they're going to shoot that bitch from Bangladesh. Clay, too, though. If yo ass is not pushed up on these two specific players, they're going to shoot that bitch from Bangladesh. Clay too though.
Starting point is 01:32:28 Clay, he has to make you look somewhere else and he has to- No, no, no. He's not like, nah, I don't want to hear that, man. Clay can do exactly what you said. When he coming off that bitch and he like how Martell Webster used to get off when he got that bitch, It's in there. He's the similar type of player where it's like, nigga, you get that nigga and you leave him open. It's automatic cash.
Starting point is 01:32:52 I agree 100%. He could come right down off a make, right? And they could push it up to Clay and Clay's going to shoot that bitch from where he touches. But that's what I'm saying. But Steph and Dame, when you're a point guard and you're bringing that bitch up casually, and you playing back like, all right, we about to guard this. No, you're not about to guard. Shit, I'm pulling. What do you mean?
Starting point is 01:33:11 You don't have a chance. You know who else got that type of mentality? Jordan Poole. With your ass. Just getting, like, if he just comes down getting hot. The reason I picked Klay is he's going to use the least amount of energy to score that's what I'm saying he just get off the rip right here that's it shot he go like he's that's dangerous or sissy without sweating the other one to go have to get this shit
Starting point is 01:33:35 off so I thought that's why I went with him first play okay that's that was that's what the reason I went with him I mean I agree with I was going with Dame that I had like clay burst vs. Steph shooting competition. Who wins? Clay vs. Steph? You say it? What is it? A three-point competition? I don't know. They both my boys. I've always considered Clay a better, like... Pin on the boys.
Starting point is 01:33:56 Pin on the boys. Pin on the hot. Cause general fans, everybody's gonna say Steph. But the people you talk to that play with you... He's automatic. Matt Barnes... He's a machine. Mine is... I play with you, Matt Barnes, he's a machine. Mine is... I agree with you, though. Mine is if they did 10 days of shooting, whoever can hold their concentration the longest.
Starting point is 01:34:13 Yeah, whoever's hot. What if they did, let's say, like 30 shots? That shit can be ugly. No warm-up. No warm-up. I'm going Clay. I'm going Clay. I'm going clay I'm gonna step is I feel if you go off the dribble with that 100 in a row step foot dribbling
Starting point is 01:34:30 It's that made a hundred threes in a row. Yeah, I ain't saying clay can't do it. I'm sorry, but I Don't know I Wouldn't I would put like this I wouldn't be comfortable with my money on yeah anyone. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I would I bet As a fan, okay, I'm gonna watch this the one I'm paying to watch I'm not even paying for that one. I'm not I'm not I mean I can add on this couch Here you go, here you go shots 30 shots not me. I like myself. I like money like they said like me. Everybody like they said. I like me. I like me. I like myself too. I like me. I mean, I know who the easy is to beat. Who?
Starting point is 01:35:08 You. The person who went, no, the person who went, was it 10 for 32? Oh. You going to take that? You going to take that? I like me. You going to hold it? I'll say, I like me.
Starting point is 01:35:18 10 for 32. What you got to say? Next. I like me. 10 for 32. When y'all shooting again? Next. I know it's 8 for 10, but I know what 10 for 32 looks like.
Starting point is 01:35:25 When y'all shooting again? That room was janky. Huh? That room was janky. I mean, it took him 22 shots to get warm. When y'all shooting again? When's the fade? Zeke weekend.
Starting point is 01:35:33 We got to do it at Zeke weekend. We got to do it at Zeke weekend. I think what's fair is this. We got to do it at Zeke weekend, man. He took 22 shots to warm up to do his thing, but he finished 10 for 32. If you give me 32 shots, I can beat no warm-up though. Yeah, I just know We got to do it I think weekend telling you is there somewhere we could do it. Yeah Zeke weekend We got the 32 shot. We got the we gonna show up early. We gonna show up early
Starting point is 01:36:01 We go be in there early. Let's get it before everybody comes. We were there. He took 22 shots and got his little rhythm. So if I go take 32 shots, don't warm up, the part of the 32, do you think I can beat 10? Gilbert Arenas? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:17 You think I can beat 10? Yes, I do. Okay. Do you think I can? Because he only had 10. And he has the crown. Do you think I can beat 10? The only thing is,
Starting point is 01:36:24 I don't know that he shot out to a to a brand over there We're in like I was over there working out. No, but I'm Brandon. I'm disappointed Sia what I do I'm disappointed Cuz y'all are parading around and this little circus of going y'all got going on right again. I don't want to hear that Yeah, that's what I want. I don't want it Happening right now. What you guys are doing for the... You got your... What you guys are doing right now...
Starting point is 01:36:50 What you guys are doing for this guy right here, validating his foolishness. So, you were there. You were not jumping on no fucking trampoline, Brandon. You were not. You were standing next to me. You were standing... I was working outoline, Brandon. You were not. You were standing next to me. You were standing. I was working out.
Starting point is 01:37:06 Josiah. I was warming up. Josiah, you were there. I said we're nothing. You were there. I was trying out for the team. Trev, you were there. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:37:13 Like, niggas was there. Niggas was watching because nobody else was doing it. Trev was over there like this. Nobody else was moving. So the fact that niggas is over here like on Gilbert's. No. Like the fact that Interjection and about there's always the interruption
Starting point is 01:37:36 Like like like he said, oh he went 10 for 32. He went all this warm-up shit But he's never talking about how he only made one shot. One warm-up. Your warm-up you made. This is what didn't happen. He didn't just step on the floor and just we started shooting. That did not happen. No, you was taking
Starting point is 01:37:58 shots. That did not happen. So he's saying you warmed up. Yes, he did warm up. Was I taking shots? Yeah. Brandon wouldn't be able to say yes or no if he was practicing. Because I'm videotaping here. If Brandon was practicing, he wouldn't be able to say. I don't know. So you took warm-up shots?
Starting point is 01:38:10 I was trying out with a team. He took the warm-up shots. All I'm saying is this. And he kept saying, oh, he's scared to shoot. He's scared to shoot. I'm listening to you. One, two, three. I wasn't there.
Starting point is 01:38:19 I was so open. I'm listening to you guys just sit here and be like, yeah, man, that shit wasn't fair. Some janky rims. I never said that. So all I'm going to say. Some janky rims. I never said that. So all I'm going to say is this. Oh, my God. If there was a Nerf rim, if there was a wastebasket, I don't give a fuck if it's circular and I got something to throw in it.
Starting point is 01:38:34 Nigga, I'm winning. Did you go 20 for 22? And all I know is this. I don't need no fucking warm-up. I don't want a fucking excuse. I ain't got none. I blasted this nigga. Okay, look. Okay, cool. So can we change the fucking subject already?
Starting point is 01:38:48 Can we keep bringing this same shit up for him to keep validating that the fact that you got warm-up shots and all this warm-up shit. I don't want to fucking hear this shit no more, man. It's the same thing you did. Ten, one. Okay. You played four rounds. Ten, one. You played four rounds.
Starting point is 01:39:03 That's why I said let me give you. You gave me a warm-up. He did not. I gave you. You played four rounds of golf. You gave me a warm-up. He did not. He shot 22 shots. Does Gilbert play golf for a living? No. What does he do for a living? Basketball. Okay. He shot 22 shots. Does Gilbert Arenas need warm-up? I'm going to the rim.
Starting point is 01:39:18 I'm taking 32 shots first. No warm-up. I don't need a warm-up because he didn't. First it was 22. First it was didn't first it was 22 22 then 10 first it was 12 then it was 22 now it's 32 your total shots and none of these niggas in here is talking about how my stick was going I'm gonna go to my rim right we're not taking 32 shots we're not done with the show yet y'all do the show we don't need to be done with the show put it on here put it on here Let's go let's go I want to see
Starting point is 01:39:58 Y'all y'all killing me man. Oh, I got a beat shot killing. I gotta be 10. Let's go. I Want to see it. In his backyard where he warms up every day. It's called witness. This is what we do. Hey. Witness it. You going to sit up and talk?
Starting point is 01:40:15 No, I'm about to watch it, witness it in person. I can't believe y'all even entertaining this shit again. I'm sipping wine. And it's warm out here. All I need is a cigar. Try not to make the shit about me, but God damn it. Y'all want to make it about me all the time. I'm going to go home and watch the Godfather.
Starting point is 01:40:24 I'm going to go home and watch the Godfather. I'm going to go home and watch the Godfather. I'm going to go home and watch the Godfather. I'm going to go home and watch the Godfather. It's warm out here. All I need is a cigar. Try not to make the shit about me, but god damn it. I want to make the shit about me all the time. I'm going to go home and watch The Godfather. Let's see. Let's see. Rebound for your daddy. Rebound real quick.
Starting point is 01:40:40 Make sure you're the men's. No, that looks smaller. Like where he got it going? The filming? Is that high school he's by the way you shoot? I see it. You don't want me? Can they see me?
Starting point is 01:40:54 Yes, we can see you. Yeah, we can see you. Hey, tell me, yeah. It's a competition. You good? All right, 32 shots. Clipping it. Oh!
Starting point is 01:41:13 You made the first one. Two, two in a row. Yo, y'all, we live on the show right now, and Gilbert is challenging Rashad. Two for three. This is a waste of time. Three for four. Look, as y'all can see, we got the cameraman out here filming this and everything.
Starting point is 01:41:35 Four for five. So if he's doing this with his first five shots, why would he need a warm-up at the get-up? Why would he need 32 warm-up shots? This just doesn't make any sense. Listen, don't put me... It looks like he's doing pretty well right now in his own backyard. Listen, I was training to get on the team. It looks like he's doing pretty fucking good.
Starting point is 01:41:58 Six for nine. For the first ten shots. You did ten shots. Rush that one. Where we at? Six for ten. Move it. Ten shots? You did ten shots? You rushing that one. What was that? Six for ten. Come on, bitch.
Starting point is 01:42:09 You rushing. Seven for eleven. He ain't lost shit. Eight for twelve. Nine for 12. 9 for 13. Ah 9 for 14. 9 for 15. 10. 10 for 16 right now. Hey Paula can they hear us out here? 10 for 17. BJ out here? 10 for 17.
Starting point is 01:42:45 BJ out here. 10 for 17? 10 for 17. 10 for 18. That's his daughter over there, rewounding. 11. 12 for 20. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:43:04 12 for 20. 12 for 20. Okay, I'm warm. I'm warm now. Oh, man. You starting over now. Yeah. 2 for 2. That first round of 20 was 12 for 20.
Starting point is 01:43:23 That's 3 in a row. Four in a row. He's talking his shit, too. Oh! Four for five. Four for six. That is hot as fuck out here. It's like 97 degrees.
Starting point is 01:43:48 I done lost count. I done lost count. I think it's four for seven. I think it's four for seven. I can't. Where we at? I think it's four for eight. You made the first four. I think it's four for eight.
Starting point is 01:44:01 All right. Five for nine no no good Rashad is not out here y'all he not he not coming not gonna get it done 17 to 32 all right now let him beat that and then I get to beat his next one now we're gonna make we're gonna force him to shoot now. We're going to force him to shoot. It's getting real serious around here. You were shooting that hot ass. It's hot as hell.
Starting point is 01:44:38 I ain't doing none of it. Gilbert, you have a nice house. He has an amazing house, right? Gilbert, you have a nice house. Gilbert, it's an amazing house, right? Gilbert, you have a nice house. Gilbert's house is fucking beautiful, you guys. Y'all just seen us come from outside. And we going back to the studio so they can talk some more shit.
Starting point is 01:44:55 Did y'all watch it? He went out. He went out? No, sorry. I got it right here. Sweat man. You want a shot? My kiss like. He said he warmed up now. My kiss is unbothered.
Starting point is 01:45:13 You unbothered? He unbothered y'all. What's up? What we got? What's up? He can be unbothered all he want to. You want to shoot? No.
Starting point is 01:45:22 No he don't want to shoot. He going to have to warm up first. Next. Now this is like, all right, let's go out there and compete. Let's go out there and we're going to have ten shots. Let's go take ten shots. Next. Let's go take ten shots.
Starting point is 01:45:38 Me and you, ten shots. That's what he did. Let's go take ten. I'm already warm now. Let's go take ten shots, me and you. I done already rolled the clip Chilling and he challenged me after you and then 10 when the challenge came about he was not ready and
Starting point is 01:45:55 I flamed his ass now. He wants to go out and shooting hot Sun and prove up Yes, too hot the game has already been won the challenge has already been met I've already played you can't run forever you're not gonna be able to run forever alright do you not validate his point of saying that you won I don't want to hear a god damn thing 10-1
Starting point is 01:46:18 he made one he just started out when he went first went out there he made what six in a row nah I don't think so yeah I was, he made what, six in a row? Nah. I don't think so. He made like six straight. I don't know. Yeah, I was counting. He made like six straight. He went 12 for 20 in the first 20.
Starting point is 01:46:29 I said when he first started, first six shots. And then. He made five in a row, six in a row. I'm like, damn, where was that at? How can you not? Okay, listen. Remember, no warm-up. He just went up there.
Starting point is 01:46:40 Real talk. You were supposed to be a great shooter, but you're trying not to account for the two for 22 you went when you were shooting. What was the great shooter you're talking about? Because I wasn't trying to shoot. I wasn't trying. The shit you was counting is because you were trying to say, oh, look at my cans. I'm like, my nigga, I'm just out here fucking around.
Starting point is 01:46:59 They said you went five for ten on your last ten. Do you think you can go beat that? I ain't trying to beat that. I don't trying to beat that. I done already beat him. This is what happens when you lose and you want to try to get your face back. This is what happens. I mean, I would. If I was a shooter,
Starting point is 01:47:14 I'm taking that. Five for 10, right now. If you was a shooter, you would take that. You said you wanted to take the loser, right? You said you was going to go against the loser. No, no, no. When we competed, you were like, I got the loser. So you go against him.
Starting point is 01:47:30 I can't. I'm a king of the tower. Y'all niggas need to get in line and get me. We played basketball. In the first half, he's 2 for 22. In the second half, he's 8 for 10. All he wants to talk about is the
Starting point is 01:47:45 8 for 10. He don't want to talk about being your 10 for fucking 32. What counts, though? Does the first half count or does the second half count? In theory, no matter what your last 8 went, in theory, you're 10 for I'm 17 for 32. Nobody remembers
Starting point is 01:48:02 who lost. I'm 17 for 32. No matter who lost. I'm 17 for 32. No matter how you want to do it. No matter how I want you to laugh. You're one for 10, nigga. You're not 17 for 30. You're one for 10. Okay, can I get the other 22 shots then? No.
Starting point is 01:48:16 Of course not. No. Because you started with the conversation. You're two for 22. But can you understand? You're one for 10, nigga. I'm basically beating you. Why are you fighting for him?
Starting point is 01:48:24 No, no, no. I'm not fighting for him. Stop fighting for him. Let's go to the next thing, please. I'm saying, can you No, yeah you playing again Me and Brandon play one-on-one He give you nice back whack the fuck out this nigga 570 what he's gonna be like, let's run it back. And I'm going to be like, nigga, don't you ever challenge me again. Don't you ever challenge me again.
Starting point is 01:48:53 He's a win dream killer. Don't you ever challenge me again, nigga. Don't you ever challenge me again. Hey, McCann, count your days. Don't you ever challenge me again. Count your days, buddy't count your day. Don't you ever tell?
Starting point is 01:49:08 Count your days Count your fucking days better win when you tell your days you better fucking win You better fucking win. But Rashad, you can't see somebody. I don't Look at my one on one at Zeke weekend you better wait. I want to want to Zeke weekend. We got a week Let's get ready. You better win when you challenge me That's all I can say. I'm gonna be ready as Zeke weekend I know I'm gonna go one for ten, right? He took a total of 32 shots. Do I get the other two? Here we go. He won't give it to me go He won't even give me the whole. I just want another feedback. On the regular rim. Next week, I ain't drinking at all. On the regular rim.
Starting point is 01:49:45 I'm warm. Let's go. With a regular ball and a regular three-point line. Listen, next week, I ain't drinking at all. I'm going to go to staff camp, play against some high school kids, and I will see you at Tacoma. That's not... High school kids not going to help you.
Starting point is 01:49:57 I'm going to see you, too. I'm going to see you at Tacoma. High school kids is not going to... I'm going to see you at Tacoma 101. You need to go to the... I'm going to see your ass at Tacoma. I'm going to see you at Tacoma. You need to go to the weight room. I'm going to see you at Tacoma. You need to go to the weight room.
Starting point is 01:50:06 You need to go to a whole lot more. We're doing three dribbles. I ain't worried about none of that. We're doing three dribbles and you better hit every time. We tried to set this up in Vegas, but the Nevada Gaming Commission was hating. So if y'all gentlemen agree to it, right now in this very time. 7-0? Shit. He said 7-0? Shit.
Starting point is 01:50:26 Shit. He said 7-0, BJ. Shit. How are you going to stop me? I'm going to week. Mr. B is going a whole week sober. And I'm reffing. And I'm getting ready. You're going to stop? I'm reffing. You're going to get stopped. I'm just kidding. Offensive charging.
Starting point is 01:50:43 Charge? I'm going to say anything. Charge? I'm going to say anything. Charge? I'm going to say anything. You play the fan, God damn it. I'm going to call it against you. I'm going to say anything. Hey, just look. I guess, look.
Starting point is 01:50:54 Moral of the story is. He got me getting wrecked. Moral of the story is I fucking suck. I ain't no good at shit. No, we want the crown. Moral of the story. The moral of the story. I fucking suck.
Starting point is 01:51:04 Everybody come at me. We playing for the crown. We playing for the crown. And you got a shooter. I ain't no good Be heard horse, let's go bring them all Cuz I can't do such things. Oh, yeah, never mind. See how y'all doing me? Never mind. See how y'all doing me? Okay, but we gonna get our crowns.
Starting point is 01:51:31 Let's go. You know how to bowl? You know how to bowl? We gonna beat them in bowling. Hey, man, come on. We gotta be with... Hey, hey, that nigga's nice in bowling. I see that nigga wind up.
Starting point is 01:51:39 I ain't gonna run. I see my nigga wind up in. I ain't going that far. I ain't going that far. Wait, what happened? You see my reality kicks in? I'm gonna go get my ball. I'm gonna go get my ball. I'm gonna go get my ball. I ain't going to break. I see my nigga wind up. I ain't going that far. I ain't going that far. Wait, what happened?
Starting point is 01:51:48 You see the reality kicks in? Bowling, yeah, I ain't going that far. I, you know. You nice as fuck, too. I'm nice at everything. Tell us what? So like, what's his name? He said, he was like, man, we can go over his house
Starting point is 01:52:04 and just kill him. Ice Cube. I would go over his house. He said, I can go over his house and just kill him. Ice Cube. He said, I don't know about all that. I don't know about all that. He ain't know about all that. He's like, I don't know about all that. We bowling Friday. When's Friday? Tomorrow? Yeah. No basketball?
Starting point is 01:52:19 Nah, Friday's Tuesday. I mean, you can be any Friday. I need to know. I mean, next week before we got. Shit, I need to know. I don't live here, so I need to know. I mean... Go next week before we... Before we got to head out. Hopefully everybody is invited because y'all know how y'all niggas do.
Starting point is 01:52:31 Yeah, you're right. We don't be inviting you. Y'all don't. Yo, let's go next Wednesday. I just want to be invited so I can reject it. When y'all went and go-kart riding and shit. Nigga was go-karting. Gil was some bullshit out there.
Starting point is 01:52:41 Nigga was go-karting. Gil was out there... Gil was out there cheating. Yeah, I had to call him, and I was like, what you doing? He's like, go-kart riding with them. I said, also, I'm just not even invited. No invite. I'm trying to win.
Starting point is 01:52:50 I'm trying to win. Gil out there on some other shit on them golf carts. But if y'all invite me, I'm just going to reject y'all. I'm trying to big time y'all. Okay. This host is paying dividends. So next weekend, where is this? Tacoma?
Starting point is 01:53:00 We'll be in the Seattle-Tacoma area with Tacoma Community College at the Zeke Inn. Shout out to IT3 for inviting us pulling gun out I'll see you Whatever other Washingtonians are around interviews all crit. Y'all didn't even tell me about it either Getting it ready represent the home is tight homies cut. I think I hurt my back. I don't even want to hear the bottom one. I don't want to hear the bottom one. I think I hurt my back again. I'm fucking sick of you.
Starting point is 01:53:31 I need a backie out of me. This was a wild and crazy show today, Chad. We appreciate y'all. We know y'all are very spirited, had a lot of opinions, a lot of shit to talk. But you were talking that shit in the chat of Gil's Arena. Notice we're not in your chat. Hey, one thing is no other show can do what we do. Yeah, we got mostly fans We know other show can do we do is being can't do it y'all can't do what we do, right? No, wait, we do competitive. I just wish they might say, you know
Starting point is 01:53:59 Every time we go on the road that we get crazy when I said I was ready to go I said But he wasn't ready to go upstairs then I have it right now that's like man He already lost I'm trying to get a win. I'm getting into this. You gotta fucking win. You gotta fucking win, man. I settled my win. Gotta win, man. Negro Catalan, we going to celebrate you, man. I said, we're going to get a kill. Gotta win. Goddamn, he going to come on the show happy tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:54:35 Mm-hmm. He was happy. He beat me. He beat me in golf. But now it's time. It's the Thursday last show of the week. Time for my favorite segment, Mostly Fans. Now, Gim, top of the week time for my favorite segment mostly fans I give top of the show. We sent the bird call out We said that they needed to include their underdog username for a chance of a $50 bonus from the good folks at underdog fantasy
Starting point is 01:54:55 Mm-hmm. So the people have responded they actually listen today. Some of y'all was hard-headed yesterday didn't want to follow directions They follow directions today. So every question that we asked they're gonna get a $50 bonus Oh, so I would just tell you on the chat if you were smart and you like $50 bonuses directions they follow directions today so every question that we ask they're gonna get a 50 bonus so i would just tell you on the chat if you were smart and you like 50 bonuses you should be i would download that use promo code gilzerina i want the 50 dollars you got to jump in the chat and ask a question with your username so first one is for um andre tells his name but he said breeze 34 is my udf username gil what happened in your career come up where you knew you were NBA ready? When I knew I was NBA ready? What happened in your NBA come up?
Starting point is 01:55:35 What moment in the league did you know you were NBA ready? When I got my first start? No, no, no, no, no. We're playing Timberwolves. And we were down eight points. And they put me in the last two minutes of the third quarter. And I went on an 8-0 run. I went on an 8-0 run, tied it up, you know, and, you know, that was my two minutes. That was it. That was it and I was like, oh shit
Starting point is 01:56:08 I was here like the team and all that we end up getting our ass whooped, but but that's not the point but out you know, I mean, it's like oh shit that and then that like gave me the confidence to like Cuz the first part was I was getting killed but that Know them first couple games Oh shit, it's too fast for me, but that that moment right there. I thought okay That's fine. Let me let me stick to what I've been doing right. I think I know what you're gonna say But man, you know what now they asked me to ask Gil the chat needs to ask me a question Let me answer that. Let me answer that. It's B for Bruce 34. It's B. I'm just playing.
Starting point is 01:56:50 No, like, so it's this tape, too, and I want to get this tape. Malik's story. Your dad has this tape, Kenny's story. He has this tape of me in the seventh grade, 13-year-old. We won a national championship. You know, we go AAU, you see everybody. AAU, Memphis, Tennessee. I think that was when I knew, like, that's when I first had my first article, my first, I signed my first autograph, but winning the national championship,
Starting point is 01:57:11 and I kind of took over the game, but it was just like, I just knew then, like, all right, like, you know, like, this is something that I want to take serious, and I can really be good at it and make money. You know, when you're young, you're just hooping, but like, that was just that moment at seventh grade, winning the national championship, and that was just the moment of me like, yeah, I can you know, like, yeah, this is something I really want to pursue and become
Starting point is 01:57:33 make money off of it. My shit was Houston Rockets. I was only playing second quarters, Dwayne Casey, my rookie year. Dwayne Casey? Dwayne fucking Casey. He didn't believe in playing rookies in the second half, right? So I knew this. We just traded Wally Zerbiak for Ricky Davis and Mark Blunt and Marcus Banks.
Starting point is 01:57:54 So it was their first game. We were playing in Houston. And I always knew I had second quarters to play. But this was a game where I had been talking been talking about doing what doing um for his regiment trying to like follow him but then like two weeks before that guy rex claimed me and pulled me to the side like shawty we're gonna do our regiment we're gonna get you ready for your minutes when you're in the game so for those two weeks i was preparing for just my minutes coming off sets, doing shit. And I scored 18 straight, 18 in the second quarter. Everything from pin downs, post-ups.
Starting point is 01:58:30 That's why I said David Wesley, Luther Head, lunch meet, post-up, fadeaway, Kobe shit. And it was like, that was the moment I was like 18 in the second. And I didn't play the second half. That's what I was going to ask you. You feel like it was him? What? And he didn't play the second half? Didn't play I was going to ask you. You feel like it was him? What? And he didn't play the second half? Didn't play me the second half.
Starting point is 01:58:48 And I think we lost that game. But every game after that, my second quarters was 12 points, 14 points, 16 points. And I was like, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I know I can hoop in this league. And the people I was getting the points on, like, after a while, they had to put TMAC on me because it was like, you know, I think it was Jeff Van Gundy was the coach of Houston at the time.
Starting point is 01:59:10 He was like, what the fuck is going on out here? He's fucking killing us. And then I remember I had one possession with TMAC on me, and it wasn't like he, like, stopped me or anything, but that let me know. I'm like, they had put TMAC on me. It was like, yo, I knew, like, I had some game, and I had prepared for that moment,
Starting point is 01:59:27 so it was like, that was my arrival, my rookie year was my arrival. For sure. Good times. Let's keep this moving. Next question from Chris Lewis. His underdog name is Ballhead Lou Will. Yeah, that nigga $55 for that.
Starting point is 01:59:46 That's a dope name. Hey, y'all got a good name. We're going to talk to Underdog. Y'all got a good name. That makes it look like we got to get y'all some more bread. But we're going to give you the 50 at least. Don't come looking at it from me. I ain't got it.
Starting point is 01:59:58 What did you do with your first NBA check? My first one? I gave it back to the agent. Damn. To your agent yes why because I spit all my money before I got drafted oh dumbass yeah I bought my chain about the fake chain and Obama escalate had the five TVs boom boom boom right so when my first NBA check came, yeah, that ain't yours no more. That's gone. Wow. It's different. How much did you say?
Starting point is 02:00:29 Do you remember what you did with your first? How did it come? Direct deposit, paper you got to take to the bank? Like, I always, like. It was direct deposit to his. So you didn't even see it? Nah. You couldn't frame it?
Starting point is 02:00:39 Nah. I mean, to me, mine is different because I came out of high school and I'm pro in Italy So I bought my mom a house with the first check. Yeah, it was like a lump sum not to be in your business pocket-watching But like how do they do that over you like some well? I mean I got money from the Italian team and then under armor Okay, that's how I was able to be like 1.5 or 1.2 at that time But I made sure my mom got a house Was it a good thing what um no no i mean seriously
Starting point is 02:01:10 like because these are because like your first thing like as a young and when you get in the league it's like yo buy my mom a house like bye but i feel like i should have bought myself something first you know um you know i'm saying like at the end of the day like because i'm the one that's you know making this decision and you know like, because I'm the one that's, you know, making this decision. And, you know, like, you know, that doesn't mean that I don't love my mom or, like, you know, my family or I don't appreciate it. It's just that, like, I think we get caught up in, like, okay, when I get this first check, I got to give it back to my family. When it's like, well, you can get hurt next year. And then, so it's like, you know, like, if I could have reversed it, I would have bought myself something.
Starting point is 02:01:45 Wait, does she still have the house? No. But that's probably why you feel like that. Maybe? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that. Just, and then, you know, like, I made people comfortable early in my life. Like, at 18, 19, you know, so I'm 18, 19.
Starting point is 02:02:02 You know, I don't have a father figure. Like, I'm trying to figure it out. And, you know, your first thing is like, I got to do for my mom. Like, you know, my mom is the reason why I'm here. And it's like, well, yeah, but also, like, I'm the reason why I'm here. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, just for youngins, it's just like, you know, maybe you should buy yourself something first to make sure that you're stable. Because you don't know you're stable because
Starting point is 02:02:25 you don't know what's gonna happen your career luckily I was able to play nine years and 11 years and buy yourself the house and let her lease it from you at a discounted rate just or just buy the house and then leave something for your mom first and to that money is able to build up like you know about I think you should take care of yourself first my My shit is a little bit different. Like I tell y'all motherfuckers, I'm different, man. I got robbed my first check. Peggy Williams. I heard about that.
Starting point is 02:02:51 Peggy Williams. No, I watched a documentary on Dennis Rodman and I saw him. Yeah, it was, you know, she finagled me to become my financial advisor. I gave a black woman an opportunity because I wanted to do the whole empowerment shit. And we believed in that as a family. the story is kind of crazy because how I found out about it was weird. I was getting
Starting point is 02:03:15 Ricky Hayes by KG bringing the donuts in and one day I couldn't bring the donuts in because my account was zero. And this is before I had got paid. So I went in the locker room and I had a ticket. He's like, what the fuck them fucking, what the fuck are donuts at, motherfucker?
Starting point is 02:03:31 I was like, man, I ain't got no bread. He's like, what the fuck you mean? You an NBA player, you ain't got no goddamn bread. I ain't got no bread. So he was pissed at me. Whole practice wouldn't talk to me, none of this shit. And I told him, I'm like, man, I got robbed, bro. My financial advisor took all my bread. She set up up a trust she did all this shit with our bread came in woo me and my mom and all us
Starting point is 02:03:50 believed on all this family shit and it was about three 350 something like that 350 400 and I remember just getting the call Like yeah, man Peggy goddess my agent Jeff Schwartz told us like me God like what the fuck you mean she got us she got us now for those who ever seen the doc I mean great a great with the Ricky Williams but in still alive yeah she in jail but she isn't they didn't have me in the dock
Starting point is 02:04:19 because I refused to be a part of we have pictures of him and because they weren't gonna pay me they gonna get paid off of the doc, but they weren't going to pay me for it. So I was just like, it's cool. But there's an episode on American Greed. Talk about it. I was on that shit. But, I mean, my first check, I didn't get to do shit with my first check. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:04:35 I was in debt my first check. So Ticket gave me a little loan to keep me afloat for a little bit. And that's why I always mention him as my vet as you know somebody who gave me a lot of grace um but when it come down to that first check and being finagled for money and being picked 14th supposed to be picked higher and David Stern I had to tap that nigga on his shoulder he wasn't paying attention made the first mistake he ever made in the draft in 20 years. What did you like my story? goes beyond you know I got picked 14th and
Starting point is 02:05:12 David Stern made a mistake and didn't shake my hand when I came on stage What do you mean he didn't shake your hand? He was looking over to the motherfucker. He was just where were you? I was on stage. I think I had to tap. I had to tap him on the shoulder like yo, what's up, my nigga? It's my time This is my day. What are you doing? Yeah, yeah the turnaround shake my hand. Why was he looking somewhere else? It's my moment He never fucked up before and never fucked up again after that So, you know for that and then for me to get robbed and then for me to you know
Starting point is 02:05:41 Go through the shit that I went through in Minnesota and all that shit, I persevere. That's why I wear the crown. You know what I'm saying? It's a symbol of perseverance. It's a symbol of going through the bottom, rising to the fucking top. So niggas can't take this shit off my head. All right, so you went through all that, right? So what is your perspective now in life?
Starting point is 02:06:00 You know what I'm saying? You caught a couple L's. We all catch some L's, right? We all have it. Right? So, like, what is your perspective now? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, how do you view life now and where you're at now in life?
Starting point is 02:06:13 It's all about mentorship and giving back, you know, with the wisdom and knowledge that I have to have it all, to lose it all, to be able to say, damn, I know the mistakes I made and the people I learned from going up, seeing the shit that's happening, and be able to say, well, if I'm not an example of what it is to lose, what it is to survive, right? I can be around motherfuckers like Gil, who's always been a beacon of respect. We look up to the niggas like him. And for me to be sitting on the couch next to niggas like y'all who's done what y'all have done.
Starting point is 02:06:49 But for me to survive, I've always wanted to just be the example. Like, yo, you can still wear a crown. You can still have confidence. And you can still be a survivor. You ain't got to be at the top of the top of the top, man. You can still be the nigga that can walk in a room full of motherfuckers with billions of dollars, and they look at you like...
Starting point is 02:07:09 Yeah, make them uncomfortable. Yeah, yeah. Are you shining? Are you doing... You would never know, my nigga, because I never lost that shine. I never lost that glow. And I want to tell those youngins it doesn't matter failure or not being accepted or being picked on a bully.
Starting point is 02:07:27 You still got to stretch. You got to stretch. So do you want more? Or, like, so I heard you, like, when Gil was talking about, like, the money situation, right? Like, losing all the money. And you were saying, like, you don't need all this money and this and that, boom, boom, boom. Like, so say, like, you do get $10 million, whatever. Would you want more or are you content with life?
Starting point is 02:07:49 You know what I'm saying? Because me, I feel like you always want more, right? And I always want more. I don't feel like there's no limit. I feel like if whatever God is showing me, that means he's making me to the best ability that I can be, right? So if a certain amount of money or anything success makes you, like, will make you content and feel like, all right, I'm cool and I don't have to do much?
Starting point is 02:08:11 Or will you want more? That's a good question because I've learned to have and appreciate the abundance that I've grown without things to not have to depend on money to be the thing that makes me feel like I'm more. I was able to dig deep inside of myself and be like, yo, if I know my worth and I know who I am, the money is a bonus. If I was to come up and get 20, 50, 50, $60 million, like I wouldn't know what to do with that shit immediately. I would go back and help motherfuckers who have ideas, who've never got a second chance, third chance. Like it's not about me going to live a life ideas who've never got a second chance third chance like it's not about me
Starting point is 02:08:45 going to live a life that i've never lived before like i feel like during my 20s i've done shit around big time motherfuckers that i don't really need it so i can now live and say all right i have an abundance inside so all that other shit fame and to me. But these young kids has never experienced luxury. I like to take them on a trip and show them what it is to feel like on a G5 jet, what it feels like to live in or stay in a five-star hotel, to eat luxury food. That's the type of shit that I would like to do with my money. That's why I say when y'all ask the billion-dollar question, all that shit, it's like I want value because I know know that like a william wesley taught
Starting point is 02:09:25 me the most important thing is your value he was moving around without having money to do it and he was like these niggas owe me so wherever i want to go stay in this hotel i want to ride in this car i don't got to pay shit it's already there sitting for me is marriage important to y'all don't ask gilbert that question no i, I'm not. I'm asking to... Don't fucking ask somebody because you said you value, right? You value certain things, right? Money, right?
Starting point is 02:09:50 Billion dollars. So, like, is marriage important to you for value? I mean, that's a whole different conversation because it's like companionship is something that everyone needs. You know what I'm saying? And if a value system
Starting point is 02:10:04 based on somebody that's, you know, your significant other can help you be a more valuable person, it should be. Marriage should be that. But I don't think
Starting point is 02:10:13 that the concept of marriage itself is a value system. I just think that two people being able to trust each other. Union. Yeah, like,
Starting point is 02:10:21 I don't think it's so much about marriage. Why did God put us on this earth with man and woman, then, if marriage isn't... I don't think the word marriage is did God put us on this earth with man and woman then if marriage isn't I don't think the word marriage is important it's more about the Union because like the government being in your business has nothing to do with what type of it's not about it's not
Starting point is 02:10:32 about the government it's more about like finding your purpose and your partner so why would you need to sign a piece of paper from the government to find your purpose in your it's not even about sign a piece of paper it's not about I'm just saying on this earth on this earth that I'm living, I need to find a partner to make me better. Right. Yeah, that's not a marriage though. And it definitely needs to be a woman for me. So it's like,
Starting point is 02:10:53 like, I'm just saying. I get it. I understand. You know? Don't get it twisted. So I just feel like if I got, if I became a billionaire, if I became all this money, I would need a partner to help me, you know, understand different values like praying together. Like, I want to hear my partner pray. Like, I feel like that's a big thing to me to hear what she's praying for.
Starting point is 02:11:18 Because I know that we're safe and whatever she's praying for will help us. Know her intentions. Yeah, her intentions. Yeah, like, you know, we're being, you got to find somebody that's, what they call it? Equally yoked, is what they call it. Yeah, you know? And we're just getting older.
Starting point is 02:11:34 Like, I'm getting older. I'm 33. Like, I want to be married when I'm 35. So it's like, you know, I'm looking for that, I'm looking for that next chapter. I want to break the curse. I want to break the, you know, I don't see marriage in my family. I only see marriage from
Starting point is 02:11:47 my girl. She's teaching me. I'm loving life right now. That's why I'm just asking. That's a blessing. I'm loving life because I'm seeing something different. I'm not in the NBA. I'm not the star.
Starting point is 02:12:04 That's why I just asked you. I'm enjoying life too like I don't have like, you know, but I'm just that's why I just asked you because I'm just I'm enjoying life too because it introduced me to so much different things in life now This is a he finna say something Gilbert. Don't ruin this moment. Okay, go ahead Go ahead or they don't mess up. What's wrong with you? You know why you whoop them in sports? I'm glad you added that in sports. You know what I mean? You just whoop them in sports. I'm glad you added that in sports. Thank you, because that's sharing the shit.
Starting point is 02:12:31 Okay, Mike Turner. See your ass straightened up, though. Didn't you see his ass straightened up? So before you met your girl, right? Yeah. That question women always ask men, right? What do you see in me? What do you...
Starting point is 02:12:50 Like, you know that concept of... Yeah. Does it match now on what you was thinking then? Or did she show you her value? I think I had to understand my values. Like I had to get closer spiritually. I was out here wilding out. I got three baby mamas.
Starting point is 02:13:06 I was wild, young. Couldn't nobody tell me nothing because I was who I was. But once I got out of the league and I visited and I went to China, I started my brand, Tough Crowd, I wanted to start changing my circle. I wanted to start changing everything around me, and I needed somebody that was compatible with me, that understood understood that think like me or that had the same type of mindset It wasn't about her having all the money It was just you know
Starting point is 02:13:32 My girl got more connections than me and it's like and I'm seeing that through my brand and where I'm headed Like with my brand my brand took me from all right. We're gonna sit in here in this house We're gonna try to figure it out to my girl walk in boom. Oh, I can put it on this and that person, boom, boom, boom. So she was teaching me, showing me a value that I've never saw. I'm the breadwinner. I was always the breadwinner. But now I have somebody that can show me different ways of making money when I could just sit back and just chill. Minister Farrakhan said a man isn't a man until a woman makes him a man. And that's what I was getting with because when girls ask that question of like, what's your intentions with me? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:14:16 That's a stupid question. It's a dumb question. It's not a dumb question. It's a dumb question. It's not dumb. Because what were the intentions when they first met? You don't know. No, you don't know You're gonna show me what my intentions are when she asked you that question. She met you first meter
Starting point is 02:14:31 Yeah, I'll ask for me but but but but also for the woman that like you watch you Yeah, like like a woman that like she's gonna watch me. She's gonna watch certain things She gonna figure out where she can help you what she can add value to your life. So where is my compliment? Yeah, like my girl. Yeah, so what the intentions are I don't have no intentions. I have none you're gonna have to show me Your woman you're asking you because we coming from a different point soon as they ask that question I'm like, I don't know fucking attention at all But when a woman asks you that. When a woman asks a man that, it's a dumb.
Starting point is 02:15:07 Are you honest, though? Are you honest? No. You're not honest? No. No man can be honest because it's a dumb question. You can be honest. You want me to lie.
Starting point is 02:15:16 My intention is I want to be in a relationship. No, you can be honest. They want to hear what they want to hear. How? You can say, I just want to fuck right now. That's not the answer. Yeah, so be honest. That is not intention. That is an intention. You can say I just want to fuck right now I don't want to marry you but three weeks with you now I want to marry you
Starting point is 02:15:37 He wouldn't know three we this is the Are you sure are you done? Your intention will change the problem is you have men up here. You're asking a question to men. I don't give a fuck if you don't like it. We're giving you the answer. I said you can be honest still. We don't know the honesty of it. You do know the honesty of that moment.
Starting point is 02:15:56 We don't know because you're... At that moment... I don't know who you are to give your answer. Exactly. I don't know who you are. That's an honest answer. You're asking men. That's an honest answer. Won't asking men. That's an honest answer.
Starting point is 02:16:06 Won't you listen? That's an honest answer. Hey, hey. The answer is. That's what they call red pill. And they wonder why they have a problem with this because they don't want to listen to you. They don't listen. You don't want to listen to me.
Starting point is 02:16:15 The answer is I don't know if that's what the answer is. No, the answer is whatever I give. It ain't the answer that you give. It ain't the answer you give. He just said he don't know. But he can say I don't know. I can say something different. No, I'm saying his answer.
Starting point is 02:16:29 I can say something different. His answer was I don't know. No one knows. My girl made my plea. No, you cannot know. No man knows. Come on, bro. What my intentions are with you, who are you?
Starting point is 02:16:38 I cannot. So American asked me what my intentions are for him. American asked me what my intentions are. And what your answer is is your answer. Whatever my answer is, I can still be honest. If we're all thinking the same thing,
Starting point is 02:16:51 right? Your answer can be... How can you argue? You can't. How can you argue? You can't interject. You can't argue. You can only listen.
Starting point is 02:16:58 You can only listen. I'm saying to you, there is an answer. There isn't. There is an answer. He's just telling you that it's not an answer. How can you tell me that it is? No matter what you say, you're trying to...
Starting point is 02:17:09 I just feel like, all right, I just feel like it's an art form of knowing women. Thank you. Right? That's all I'm saying. Art form of knowing women? There's an art form? You don't know what I'm getting. There's an art form to knowing men also.
Starting point is 02:17:20 Yeah, but you don't know. No, for sure. It is. You saying to someone, you meet a woman, right? You meet a woman. Doesn't matter what your intentions are a month from now. You have an intention on that day? It is not just to fuck,
Starting point is 02:17:34 Nico. I didn't say that was. I said if that's your intention, just say it. I say what? Whatever it is. What is your intention? If you don't know the intention. How come you can say that? That's what he just said. He said I say it. I don't know. This is like going to the game and you ask me how much you're going to score. I don't know the intention. How come you can say that? That's what he just said. He said, I say this. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:17:46 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. You asked me how much you're going to score. I don't fucking know.
Starting point is 02:17:49 I don't fucking know. I don't know. You can say that. I don't know. I'm not supposed to know. You can say that. The end result lets you know. I can have my intentions to say, I just want to fuck you today when I marry you.
Starting point is 02:18:01 That doesn't mean that's not the intention today. I'm just giving you an answer. Okay, that's it. The answer is a lie. Yeah. Because the result, the result is the actual answer. Yes. No, it's not.
Starting point is 02:18:13 It is. No, it's not. It actually is. Am I right? I can meet a guy. There's a man. He's telling you. I'm telling you yes.
Starting point is 02:18:18 He's telling you yes. On the other side, let me give you an example. A man can meet me and say, what are your intentions in dating me? And I can say, right now, I just want to see if you have a big dick and if you eat pussy. I can say that right now. I can say that. And then let's say we fucked that night. He eats pussy well.
Starting point is 02:18:37 He treats me like I want to be treated. 30 days later, I have more intentions for you now. That can change is all I'm saying. You can be honest about what you want right now. Have you noticed men don't ask you that? Have you not noticed that? I'm not going to front though. If a chick asks me how I'm eating my dick, I'm going to be
Starting point is 02:18:56 like, yo, this is a one-time thing. But what I'm thinking... Yes, you can say that. Nico, are you not listening to the concept? I am listening to you. There's no man has asked a woman what your intentions are with me. It's a woman asking a man. That's not true. We're giving you the answer.
Starting point is 02:19:10 I don't fucking know all of our answers to things. You can't just, the same way you can't say. And it wasn't why women have problems with men. No, we don't have problems with men. We have problems with boys. You force us to lie. We have problems with boys. What's your intentions?
Starting point is 02:19:21 Oh, my intentions are to, oh, did you make a mistake? We have problems with little boys. That's the you make a point? We have problems with little boys. That's the problem. Let's see them next week. Let's see our little boys. Go ahead, Josiah. Wrap it up. Thanks so much, Gills Arena. After Dark Show, where we will continue all this conversation. We appreciate
Starting point is 02:19:38 you, the underdog fans. We appreciate you, Cam Thomas. Sorry about the Wi-Fi jankiness. We're going to get you back on the show. We appreciate everybody in the chat. We will see y'all next week. Thanks for rocking with us on Gil's Arena. We need to do an After Dark show. We need an After Dark show. Let's rock and roll. Desire is true. I'ma say it loud and other than who? Some swear by Nikes, others love Adidas.
Starting point is 02:20:06 Rappers be rocking crowds, I'd rather rock arenas.

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