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Episode Date: February 25, 2026

Victor Wembanyama & The San Antonio Spurs Are CLICKING At The Right Time according to Gilbert Arenas as Gil & The Gil's Arena Crew return to the virtual arena to react to the Spurs take down of the Detroit Pistons in what could be a preview of the NBA Finals and discuss if the up and coming Spurs have finally arrived after ripping off 9 straight wins. They also debate if Cade Cunningham's slow night changes things in the MVP race, highlighting Jaylen Brown as a riser after his impressive performance in the Boston Celtics' win over the Los Angeles Lakers that saw LeBron James give him adjusting his MVP Ladder. They then discuss LeBron's future in Los Angeles as the team must deal with the contract extensions for both the King and Austin Reaves this summer and debate if Bron will return on a team friendly discount to chase Giannis Antetokounmpo and another ring or if he will take his talents elsewhere. Finally, they react to Kevin Durant announcing he would like to play for Team USA at the 2028 Olympics, sparking another hostile debate on USA's chances to stay on top of the basketball world as the rest of the world catches up before giving their takes on the NBA's tanking epidemic and discussing what they would do to curb the league's obsession with bottoming out as a strategy. Please give us a Like and Subscribe!! Today's Gil's Arena Crew : Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Rashad McCants, Brandon Jennings & Kenyon Martin Gil's Arena premieres every Wednesday & Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog HERE with promo code GIL and play $5 to get $75 in bonus funds or bonus entries https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... Use our code for 10% off your next SeatGeek order*: https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/ARENA10 Sponsored by SeatGeek. *Restrictions apply. Max $20 discount SUBSCRIBE:    / @thearena0   Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos!   / discord   Must be 18+ (19+ in AL, NE; 19+ in CO for some games; 21+ in AZ & MA) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369) Show Start 0:00:00 Mayweather Set To Fight Manny Pacquiao 0:03:49 Gil Gets Cooked For Hating On Wemby 0:23:28 Jaylen Brown Is Making A Push For MVP 1:11:29 Team USA Doing Closeout Drills 1:30:15 What Should Be The Criteria For MVP? 1:32:04 Kevin Durant Wants To Play For Team USA 1:45:45 Locks For 2028 Team USA Roster 1:50:54 Rashad Addresses More Quitting Allegations 1:57:35 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The Spurs gave the pittons the belt in Motor City to extend their win streak to nine straight games. Is San Antonio clicking at the right time? LeBron praised Jalen Brown as a worthy MVP candidate while taking issue with the MVP criteria, which should be the most important, in selecting the most valuable player. And KD says he wants to play in his fifth Olympics in 2028,

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And if you can't watch the virtual arena with us live with us on YouTube, We have audio versions available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcast. So before we talk basketball, we got to talk about some big news coming out of the boxing world. Wait, maybe. Before you talk about that, Brendan, you, you, you inside your house, right? Yeah, for sure. Okay. Finish your side.

Now, I'm curious. Like inside, right? Mm-hmm. Okay. We all inside, give. But let's keep this thing moving. All of us look like we inside. The stunner shade.

One of us looked like he's in the sun outside. Where are your stunner shade during the day? It's bright in my house. I mean, I dress up every day. I mean, I don't care. This is what I don't know. I'll make money off this. Oh, okay.

My bad, my bad, bro. I was just sitting. All right. Like, you out. I'm okay. So we're going to start to show some news coming out of the boxing world. So after squaring off from one of the most anticipated showdowns in boxing history back at 2015, Floyd Mayer.

And Manny Packio finally announced their long-awaited rematch. Can you? I already see you shaking your head. We are going to get into it. No, nobody want to see that shit, man. The pair will throw hands on September 19th at the sphere in Las Vegas, with the fight being streamed globally on Netflix. The first bout in 2015 ended with Mayweather beating Pacquiao by unanimous decision.

Pacquil claiming he entered that match with an injured shoulder. That fight set records with 4.6 million pay-per-view buys over $410 million in revenue. So Mayweather ended his professional prize-fighting career with a perfect 50-0 record back in 2017 after defeating Connor McGregor, but has competed in several exhibition fights since then most recently, 2014. While Pac-Yau came out of retirement last July against then WBC Welterweight champion Mario Barrios to a majority draw. So Mayweather slated to fight Mike Tyson in exhibition match this spring leading up to the Pac-Yau rematch. But Mayweather, 49 years old, turned 49 yesterday. Pachial 47 years old when this fight will go down.

So Gil, we'll start with you first. Are you excited to watch Mayweather v. Pachial part two? I'm not really a boxing dude. But I'll watch this one because it's two professionals. I'm a fan of both of them. So, you know, even if they go 50%, I'm in it. I'm good. You know, you can take my money.

Well, it's on Netflix. So if you have a Netflix account, you get to watch the fight. But Kenya, I saw you shake your head right away with that announcement. That announcement dropped yesterday. What do you think about Floyd Mayweather, Manny Packy out? Back in the ring, round two, 11 years. I know a lot of people about the first fight, but it was too late. This fight is entirely too late.

But it was wanting to see a 49 and a 47-year-old guy fight, man. Like, just for what? I understand. It's a payday. Cool. But as far as the sport goes, like, I don't want to see that shit. Give me some young guys, man. Give me, you know, all these young dudes that's coming up in the sport.

I'm saying they need a following as well. The sport need to do a better job. They're promoting those guys. But, no, man, the first fight was mediocre. So how the fuck the people think the second fight going to be? Like, years later. Like, the first fight was that. This fight going to be.

worst. Like, it's just what it is, man. Losing slow down over the years. They've been sitting on the couch doing Lord knows what to come back in and try to fight. I'm pretty sure it's going to be an eight-round or a six-round gimmick shit, some shit like that probably. So, no, waste my fucking time, bro. Let's move on to you, Mr. B. Brandon Jennings. Are you excited at all to see 49-year-old Floyd Mayweather fight, 47-year-old Mani Paki-out?

I mean, I'm not excited, but, I mean, I guess just to see them go out there at that age, it would be cool to watch. Somebody needs some money or something. Is that why they're doing this? We all need money, Mr.Corp. I'm just trying to. I know everybody wants to make money,

but I'm just saying, like, at that age, like, is this because somebody's financially in debt, or is it what? That's a good question. I imagine a hefty bag being doled out on both sides. I think both their marketing promotion companies are helping promote the fight. along with some other people.

But let's move on to Cemetery, Larry. What do you think about? Foyne Mayweather, Manny Packyout, Part 2 in Vegas, September 19th. I love it. I love it. I'm an avid long time since I was six years old boxing fans. So, you know, watching Mike Tyson go up against fucking George Foreman

and different guys and, you know, I mean, these are things that, keep the boxing world afloat regardless of, you know, it's not everybody's cup of tea, but I think the real boxing fans want to see boxing. You know, you got to see Shakur Stevenson. You got to see Terrence Crawford, Canello, a lot of flights you don't get to see.

We never got to see Roy Jones and Mike Tyson. We got to see that later in the years. We should have seen McManian and Floyd Part 2 a long time ago. But just the, it's just like the big three. Like, who wants to see a bunch of old niggas go play three on three, right? But we go out there and we play. It wasn't for a payday because we love to play. And I think this is the same thing with boxing.

It's like, you know, if you want to fight, fight, go out there and still get it. I was fortunate enough to be in one of Floyd's camps and seeing him prepare for the fight. So I think that it's commendable for him to get back in there and prepare because his preparation is like no other athlete I've ever seen. Prepare for anything. He's the greatest for that sentiment alone. So to see many go out there and try it again, to see him go out there and prove that he's still the best, it's always going to be short.

Florida is showtime. Floyd is the guy who have people coming to see him fight. So regardless of who want to see him fight, it's just for boxing. It's for boxing and boxing fans. Very rarely is it for the casual people who want to watch. It's usually for the boxing fans, because, you know,

you can take Paul and all these other fights people tune in millions of people so why not this one yeah well i've been the biggest boxing fan for as long as i can remember as well and i don't want to see the shit right i don't want to see it and let me ask me the question msha so you said like florida's the he has the best training camp of anybody ever from what i've seen oh so that's the only the only one you've seen no not the only one i've seen but from all the ones i've seen he has the best He prepares, he prepares. Oh, okay. Okay, I was the one that you've seen.

Yeah, and all of his parents have said the same thing too. Okay, cool. Cool. I know other guys were going on. That's all. Been a lot of champions that will say the way, the same thing. Huh? I said who to you, Ken.

Of course, Stevenson, Roy Jones, Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis, Cili Lomachinko. I can, I'm saying, Terence Crawford. David Benavides, Pinello Alvarez, and the Sarah Lara. It's, I can go, I can,

I can go on. I can, Sugar Ray Leonard, Marvin Haggit. About the camp? Oh, I'm just saying, I was just thinking of champions

that probably would say that they had, that they worked just as hard in camp leading up to a fight. That's all. People can bring it, ask me who. Could Brennan asked me who?

That's all. But don't know about, like, listen, the first fight was five years. past due. Right? First time they fought, it was five years past due.

So now this one is 10 years. Come on, man. They didn't fight when they were supposed to. And that's the bad part about boxing, right? Because everybody wants to be the A side,

don't nobody want to come and meet in the middle so we can get fans a show when it needs to happen. Right? That's what that was. A lot of guys don't fight when they're supposed to because everybody want to be the A side.

Let's split it down the middle, 50-50. Like in that situation, man, it was just as popular as Floyd. Then, so let's split it down the middle. Let's go 50-50. Because we both bringing an equal amount of fan base to the table at the time. But...

So you think it's a waste of time now? It was a waste of time five years. The first fight, it was a waste of time. Like, there that, like, I watched the first fight. It was a waste of time, dog. It was five years past two. So, so we should be not. So should we not have no fights because you don't want to watch them?

No, you can watch that shit. I'm just not. I'm not wasting. I'm asking. Should we not have no fights because you don't want to watch? I watched the Jake Paul fight last fight because I knew he's going to get knocked the fuck out by Anthony Joshua. I'm not watching gimmicks and all of that shit, though.

Like, that's why, hey, that's why I'm a big time boxer fan because all of the shit that's went on in the past. Right now, I'm born for UFC guy because they fight each other. Ain't no ducking. Ain't no, I don't want to fight this guy because it is. Ain't all of these belts and this, that, and the third is one champion per one division. And you got a number next to your name.

He got a number next to his name. You 12, he 13, let's fight. You move up, you move down. That's what it should be. Instead of all this bullshit, man. That's all. If you're popular, we're popular, you think you're the man. I think I'm the man.

You think you're the man. I think I'm the man. Let's see who the man. Nothing has changed in 30 years, bro. 30, 40 years has been the same since Ali, they were fighting each other. They were fighting each other when they were supposed to. No, they wasn't. Ali got locked up.

That's the only reason they didn't fight before they supposed to. It's the only reason they did. Everybody didn't fight each other. Praise she didn't fight. Ken Norton? They didn't fight. Everybody didn't fight. Everybody didn't fight.

All the main guys did. All the main heavyways. got the defense that you just spoke of fought each other. Everybody in boxing, and you talk about boxing, everybody knows. I said it's a man. The man, you don't fight everybody. You don't fight everybody in division. It's contractual.

Everything is contractual. Well, like I said, everybody wants to be the A side. That's the only reason you don't fight. Everybody want to have their promotion team in charge and they want to be the A side. But it's going to be a good fight. What though? Yeah. That's going to be trash. Because it's a two.

Two old hands. What you mean to, folks? What are you being too old? Like they're going to fight for real? Or like, y'all sound, it don't even sound real because we can watch two young niggas not do shit and be disappointed just the same. Yeah, I'd rather see that than two old niggas.

No, not me. I'd rather see two skill fighters go out there and show what boxing is about. I dig it. It's two under grace. Why wouldn't? I don't get it. I can find something else.

I can find something else better to do. two and a half hours of my time. Well, that flight, uh, fight's late for September 19th. Uh, you got the Jake Paul, uh,

Tyson fight that did a hundred and I think eight million global viewers for Netflix. So you see obviously why they're doing it. I don't know if it makes sense to the old niggas get in there, but I'll be watching. You said it don't know if it does. I don't know if it does, but I got to,

economical sense. That's the only sense. Yeah. What does it mean? You say you don't know if it makes sense. It makes economic sense. And then it makes some type of sense. It don't make all the sense.

It don't make boxing sense. So we're the best fighters. So we're the best fighters in the history of the fight game. Fighting each other for the second time. It's a money grab at 47 and 49 years old. 47 and 49 years old. It's always a money grab. Every big fight is a money grab.

For both parties, it's a money grab for both points. If you don't want to be side B, then it's because of the money part anyway. So it's economical always. If you're going through, everything is true about what the floor is going through. I can tell you this. He won't be going through it no more after the fight. Oh, no, for sure.

Today, tomorrow, he made $2,300 million. He bragging. He's the only person that in a hour can go from. Well, technically, if they're going to garnish them wages, so he won't be back. If those rumors are true, I hear you, yes, but if the, I just had a conversation with somebody earlier day.

I didn't know all of that stuff was floating out there about this financial situation. I didn't know that, you know what? But if those rumors are true, I'm not counting to demand money. I'm not counting, if they are true, he got to pay them people, right? Okay, okay.

So if I owe this much, let's say 50, right? You got to put taxes in there. Whatever the money is, cut it in half. No, the one out is 50. So if I, the fight is 100. Yeah. They're going to take 50 of that too, right? Yeah.

So if I make, if the fight is, if I get 200 for the fight. Yeah. I'm digging. I'm with it. I'm with it. I'm with you. Absolutely. Now, I'm going to pay the old taxes.

I'm not going to do one. I'll pay the old one. And then I see you. You think I'll do. Yeah. Now three. Hey, man over. Hey, boy,

Hey, boy, and then Bobbo, call Terrence Crawford. Hey, hey, what you try to do? A boy, you've been out of ring for a few years now. Hey, man,

you're trying to go make another quick 200. I mean, it's, it's amazing. And you got to give Floyd credit for the sacrifice, the dedication he has done since he was little.

So put him in a situation where every time he, he comes back. He demands top dollar. He can come back at 50, 51, 52. You're going to pay top dollar to see that man be a machine. So his financials is meaningless because he's probably the only person on this earth, no matter how much that he can get in, he can get out of it, with jabs, dodgers, and a win. So the financials mean, Nothing because because this this right here for him is wealth. And every time he put the glove on, he's wealthy.

So none of the numbers mean anything because it really don't matter. Devil's advocate for a second again. By chance. It ain't happened. It ain't happened. By chance. Man, to come out and land one on that button. and knock him to fuck out then.

And then there's going to be a rematch. Part three. Rematch owner rematch is on. Yes. Yeah. Just them two fights. 100 million. It just sounds like it makes a lot of sense now, though.

No, it doesn't. It sounds like it's making a lot of fucking sense right now. No, it doesn't. To have a loss on your record? Let's think about this. a second. How much is a loss part, Mr. Ben? You're saying it's a money grab. Okay, if it's a money

grab and he's fixing his money, that's one thing. Okay, cool. Let's say this is a legacy play. I want to fight you again. I'm undefeated. Let's see if you can beat me. I'm going to get paid this fight and you beat me. We're going to run it back again and we do part three.

Yep. Yeah, but you start out that loss. Here's the difference. It's good for the fight game because guess what? Everybody watching boxing. Do you think that man gonna go out there and agree to some boy, this man.

I know one thing for sure that long. One thing for sure to take the cert. No, I'm not saying he's going to. I go out there to put my record on the one thing for sure, two things for certain.

He ain't scared of no record. He ain't scared about holding none of that. When I talked to Floyd, he said this is prize fighting. It ain't pride fighting. I go out here to get the fucking bag and secure to win. Syria.

Okay. They were running back That's bad. It would be bigger too. So I didn't say, what if I said? But I'm saying, I ain't saying, I'm saying, what if it's a fight, God damn it? Run it back?

That's all cool. Man, running back again. That's, that'd be for the two fights, he'd be making about 400 million. He made $100 million from what the, the, what fight was that? Was that a jig? What was his last fight?

Logan? He fought, John Goddard was his last fight, but he also fought at Logan Pitchman. John Guy. He bought the John Goddney. And that's the nigger y'all want to see fight. The nigger fought John got, man,

stop it, man. I'm just saying you don't. Like, this shit is gimmicks, man. I would hope it's sufficient amount to get it in the room. For a person that's a fan of the sport. For a person that's a hundred. That's a fan of the sport. You should feel embarrassed about this shit,

Shaw. Care money don't make money, man. Scare money don't make money. I fight the web. When the chance of hell he was going to lose the John got to the 16th. Exactly. So I just go out here and beat your ass. I'm going here to beat your ass. Who else want to fight? It's the legacy, man. I can't have no loss. We asked to chat. Who else want to fight?

We asked the chat if they were excited for watching Mayweather pack you out to. 70% of chat, not excited to see that, but we will see what goes down September 19. Let's move on. What was that number again, Josiah? 25 million for that fight. For the Gotti? $20.5. Yeah. Cool.

Shit, I'll knock myself out for 25 million. Hey, somebody go with Pam. for that more power to him. I ain't saying don't go get your money, my name. We are. We are. Go get your money. You may not. You're not being more. We're not paying more. We're going to pay and watch this.

I got Netflix. I got Netflix and I'm still not watching. I bet you don't. I bet you don't. But you want to bet. Hey, Gil. You can be together. Gil. You love watching.

He watched you take more. Yeah, Ken, you love watching it. You love watching it. This is not a fight. He was watching it. This is not a fight. He's not a fight. He's watching this.

We're all watching it, dog. We're watching it in the virtual arena. I guarantee you this. So it's going to be on a Saturday. If they fight on the Friday, hold on. I'm just tell you, is this? Wait, September 19th? Is that a Saturday or Friday?

Let me pull it up. I got to put my calendar. Let me check my Palm Pilot. I don't even know. That is a Saturday, day. This is a Saturday. It's a Saturday fight, right? Let me check my Palm Pilot.

And you know, Dana White about promotion, Dana White about both fucking fuse, right? So if there's a UFC fight on that day, I'll be watching UFC instead. It'll be much more. So, tell me. So, but I'm not watching that shit. I watch this. I watch UFC on Tuesday.

Oh, get that man flustered, man. Hey, Bill, I watch UFC on Tuesday. I watch the dudes that's trying to get on the main, and the main program on UFC, they fight on Tuesdays. I watch that as well. So, look, trust me. He watches, I don't care. I don't care.

Wednesday, he watched Thursday, Thursday football. He watched college football. He watched Sunday, all college Sunday, he watched Monday night. He watches, so he's going to be watching. You know, the only Jake Paul fight I watched was the last one. Yeah, no. Hey, Gil.

And all of the UFC niggins he talked about, all of the UFC niggins he talked about, ain't none of them nobody's. He's watching a bunch of nobody's too nuts. Listen, this is a job interview. No, no, I'm watching a job interview. This is the most violent job interview you can be on. You're trying to impress Dana White.

This is the most violent job interview you can possibly go on. So that's why I'm watching it, because I'm a fan of that sport. Boy, Mayweather. The only reason I watch Jay Pauls last got the fuck out. Dana used to carry Floyd bags. Hey, you better be tuned in, Dana. Dana and everybody else. That ain't happening now.

We will see what the numbers look like after fight. move on to some actual basketball here in Gills, virtual arena presented by Underdog Woo-WW. So let's talk about the biggest game going down Monday night. Spurs and Pinsons faced off in Motor City, Monday night for the first of their two meetings in the next 10 days and what has the potential of being a finals preview. San Antonio riding an eight-game winning streak

with Detroit boasting a five-game streak of their own. Game was physical. Chippy had a playoff field. Spurs overcame the Pistons' physicality to deliver the belt with an 11-point win. Devin Vassell led San Antonio with 28 and 4 assists. He was 7 for 11 from deep. Wimby had an off game offensively but was dominant defensively.

He had 21.17 boards, six blocks in 36 minutes. Most minutes he's played in the game since mid-November. Julian Champani added 17 points, including 5-3s. The Fond Castle had 16, 11 assists while coming up big on the defensive side. Castle guarded MVP candidate Kade Cunningham for most of the night. Cade went 5 for 26 from the field, finished with 16 points and 10 dimes. Jalen Duren bright spot for the Pistons with 25, 14 boards going 10 to 13 from the field. Spurs held the Pistons to 37.7% shooting, worst percentage of the season, including 19% from three.

So San Antonio now has season high, nine straight wins with the last eight of those coming by double digits. After the game, Wimby was asked what the Spurs learned about themselves after a game like this, and he had this response. I don't think that's a night where... We learn the most things about ourselves, but it's definitely a night where we confirm progression and confirm potential as well. But that was a good test.

So. Must have read that. Waited to exhale. So I got it out. So I know you guys don't necessarily care about, quote-unquote, statement games in the regular season, but it's the spurs coming into Detroit, beating the best team in the league.

for their ninth straight win, a statement game for San Antonio. Gil will start with you. You're going to start with the nigga that said. They're going to be out in the first round. That's weird. Yeah, I know. Sandy, don't start with somebody else

because I've seen what I've seen. We can all change our opinions. Let's move over to you. Okay. You're going to jump in at some point anyway. Well, I'm just saying, look, they playing basketball for a team who has a seven-six dude that nobody can guard whatsoever.

How come you still struggle offensively? Where is the consistent offense? Like, we know the defense is consistent because you have Wemby and you, but offensively, they're still very up and down. Like, even last, even last game, 42%. Oh. 42% in the field, 45% from three, Gil. Oh.

Again, how are you, 42% from field? So you feel comfortable shooting threes, then getting the inside where you have everyone's athletic and you have somebody who's seven, it just boggles me that they don't have anything that's consistent, like offensively. It still looks the same. Nine straight wins in a row is consistent. No, consistent winning. I didn't say, I said consistent offense. Consistent winning.

Finding a way to win is winning. Consistency. It's consistency, right. So Wimby was also asked about the offensive side of he said he had six players on the team who took more than 10 shots. They were moving the ball around. Everybody got to eat. He was very proud of that fact in getting this win as well. Everybody got to eat. That's Victor Wimbi Yama's words, not mine, Gil. No, I heard what he said.

Four for six. Four for six. Go look at the stats. Go look at the stats. That's going to tell you. Four for 17, eating. Six. Go look at the stats. eating four for 11 eat i mean they're eating watch the game man i watch the games i watch the game

right here in the biggest games man i know if you didn't mention champany or for sale but we will keep i'm watching the game everybody that don't help his that don't help his argument if he mentioned guys who play well i'm looking at the two best the two best players i'm trying to figure out when what what is their offense what is the offense i'm having a bad night i'm letting the other dudes eat What you know basketball? We know basketball. What is letting someone eat? What does that mean?

You hot, nigger, keep shooting and keep making it. You know this. Now, that would make sense if Winby took, if Winby took five shots, if this person took six shots. But four for 17 don't mean I'm letting you eat. Yes, it does. Who's guarding me? Who's guarding me?

Who's guarding me, Gil? Who's guarding Victor Wimbiana? I'm not doing very well. Who's guarding Victor Wimbionna? Did you watch the game? Himself? The coach is dirt in. Darden.

A all-star is guarding Victor Wendion. Strong as fuck. Strong as an ox. The niggas kept him off the block. They kept him out to paint the whole game. He struggled. He let his teammates put him in the game. Easy buckets.

Layups and dumps. He didn't have to do anything outside the norm of just missing shots he usually he makes. Everybody else fill the gap. His next man up. We know this. It's who. We're talking who, right? But you, you, okay, I know it's your team. When someone, if you're telling me, you're taking the night off because I'm on fire. And I go to your stats. And it says four, for 17, that means you took 17 shots. You didn't take the day off to give me the ball. I had a bad night. I had a bad night.

You had an off night and the other players. It was a ball and that's when you go up there and you say this was a great team win because you had a bad night and we still won. Great team win. Not that I was sacrificing my shots for you. Nobody said he was sacrificing shots. No, they was missing and other players had to pick up a slap. It's one guy.

It's seven guys playing. You're talking about one guy. One guy not going to have an extraordinary night every single night. He still had 21, 17, and six. He affected the game outside of going four for 17. I don't even know what we have. What is we talking about? Well, I wasn't even talking about him, but you just said his stats.

There was two. I said the two best players, right? Four for 17 was Fox because you didn't watch the game. So if it was Fox, then what about Castle? What about Champini? What about Vassel? So even though Deer and Fox and Castle didn't shoot the ball where they had 18 assists between the two, right? They did the fuck they're supposed to.

They did what they were supposed to do against the number one team in the east. And you can shoot 42% from the field when the other team shot 38, right? So they're a lot of defense. What did I understand? I'm still trying to figure. out what their offense is. Defensively, they're fine. Offensively.

They struggle. They didn't struggle. They didn't struggle. They stopped 45% from three. I thought Detroit had a lot to do with, Detroit has a lot to do with that, the way they play defense, of course. So, I'm saying?

So you got to give credit with creditors do, and the reason that they probably did have a bad game was the way that Detroit plays the game. They end up winning, of course. because their defense was good. They got had six blocks and they made Tommy. So, no, listen, it's a good win for San Antonio overall. What's our scouting report?

We got a scouting report going into, San Antonio going into Detroit. Detroit's scouter report is we need to make sure Fox and Winby have a bad night tonight. I'm going to say more Wemby, but yeah, I dig it. Right? So if we take both of these guys out, out of the game, we got a chance to beat them. Have a chance. Mm-hmm.

But guess who showed up? The other players that they got. The other guys showed up. I didn't say that. I didn't say that was... I like what this first is that. I like what this person is that by now. I said, what is the baseline of their offense?

They have no identity offensively as what my... What I said. I thought it was four out. They're a team game. They played ethical basketball. They played ethical basketball. basketball. If I'm off, if I'm off, you're on this.

No, we're all the two. So, so, so, find out. I mean, four out. I mean, yeah, yeah, you know, now you understand. Now you understand. See what I'm saying? Like, I'm trying to figure out, like, day in and day out, what is the, what is the blueprint for the offense? Four out, one in, right?

It should be. It should be. Yeah, but that's, that's, that's all I'm saying. Like, if the offense match the defense, day in and day out, that will be. they will be a dominant team, right? You know, like, OKC, most of last year, last year, the offense is just as good as the defense. Right now, Spurs' defense is elite,

and offensively it just seems like they just don't have an idea an idea what they're doing. It's like they're coming down just on the move. And I'm like, mm. Yeah, but they'll get your places, though. I'm saying, that'll take you some players on your defense. No, they, I'm saying? You're saying that, but the Spurs are nine and up in the month of February.

Hey, Gilman, they've been cooking, man. Man, listen, man, they play the same style of basketball. OKC playing. What is OKC doing from what foot to fuck the Spurs is doing? What's different? Consistent. Well, we have a consistent number one option for sure. What?

We have five options. That's why we beat their ass four times. Y'all not talking. Who, man? I swear, y'all don't know. What are we talking about? You know what consistency means? It means every single day you can rely on this person to do something.

Like, like Yokic, consistent at least 25, 9 and 8. They're 4 and 6. Their team is 4 and 6 in the last 10 games with him being back. What? They were 10 and 6 before he, no, 10 and 4 before when he was out. They 4 and 6 with him back. That's not consistent. I didn't nine and oh the spurs are nine and oh they're on a nine game win street consistency i i i'm

saying him him as a player consistent about the team man we talk about team they're not say nothing about the team itself that's what we talk about though we talk about the team you're we know what we're going to get from yokitch when he steps on the floor that's called consistent we know what she is going to bring every night we know what Curry, consistent. So when you said we got five people that are consistent, that means

even on a bad night, we know what they're going to bring. Consistency, right? That player, yes. All five players, somebody going to show up out of the five, right? That means you said all. You said five.

All five, out of all five, somebody going to show up. Somebody. Right? Somebody. out of all five. Out of all five. Nigger, that's every team.

Somebody's going to show. Out of all five, somebody's going to show up. Tombstones in the chat, man. It's man talking about his ass, man. We ain't talk about. Do you sell how stupid you are? Five players on the spurs can show up and ball out any given night.

We don't have to depend on one player. I didn't say you can. Everybody can. But is everybody... No other team in the NBA can say that. Shay can say he shows up every night. If he don't, they lose. If, stop saying can and if.

He ain't there right now. He's not playing. They're losing. Stop saying yesterday. They beat the can. If every single, how many 20-point games has he had? That is, those are real. They don't have a nine-game win streak right now.

What has, what has he had? How, what is the streak here? So like, 121. Individual. Individual? You talk about individual shit again. You're moving a goal post on TV to individual.

My point is the same point. What is it? How many? I think 121, if I'm not mistaken. 121, he's done scored over 20. You can rely on him for over 20 points. How many straight games? I think 120, 10021.

my math may be off by a game or so. Or will, it has been done. So that means when he steps on the floor, you know he's bringing you 20. So that means O KC, the way you said, somebody on OKC is going to have a 20 point game.

We're talking about the person itself, who is the consistent day in and day out person they can rely on every single day offensively. That's what the comes out. How much does Wembe? Victor Wimby, Aalah averages like 25 and 12 right now for the season? Yes.

Yeah. So wouldn't that make his averages consistent if he's going out there getting 25 and 12 every night? That is what an average would say. That is what an average. Come on, Joe. 2411. If you're going to ride with me, ride with me because it don't make no sense.

2411 and three blocks. Average is your average. Does that mean you're consistent with the average? if you ever six fucking points, that's a fucking consistent six. Isn't that consistent, right? That's your average. You're averaging this every year. The average is consistent.

I would say that the SGA's 31 is a consistent 30. It don't fluctuate much between 26 to 35. If Shea averages 32 and he's scoring 30 to 32 every game for fucking 50 game, that is consistent. If I score 40, then I score 10, right? That's an average of 25. You can't say it's consistent. Right. But throughout the whole course of the game, not just two games.

Not just two games, but 30-something, 30-something games in 40. No, how many games are we in? Hey, how many games over here? We're 40 games in? 50. Are we 40 games? 50. We're 50 games in, and he's averaging 25.

That seems pretty consistent. 57 games in, but Wimby has played. 43 of those. 43 games. He's being consistent. His team is on a nine-game win streak. And other players, I think, I ain't even looking at the stats. I'm just going to say that there are about three of the guys averaging at least 17, 18, or 19 points in game.

Maybe 16, 16, 17, something like, something in the realm of being consistent when we show up every night. Somebody's going to get their consistent numbers. consistent numbers is what you average Yeah we know I just pointed it out Okay Rashad If I score 50 today Right I'm averaging 50 right If I average if I score 10 tomorrow

Right My average is 30 In those two games Was I motherfucking consistent Jesus Christ Now, spread that out for 50 games. Are you saying? Spread it out to 50.

Spread it out to 50. So 25 games averaging 50. 25 games average in 10. I'm averaging 34 the season. Am I consistent? Yeah, you're consistent with 50-point games, Gil. And I'm consistent with 30-10-point games. That means you're consistent around the board.

You're not making no sense. You're consistent. I have the consistent. I'm consistent. I'm consistent. getting 50 consistently. I'm getting 10 consistently. What are you talking about?

I do love these moments. Hey, you went to North Carolina, dog. Hooked! He didn't wake up this morning, ready to go. I'm on fire tonight. I'm ready to address everything. It sounds like it. Come on.

Watch the games. Come on. Be consistent. I'm very consistent. It's MVP here over here. I'm on fire. You're consistent. You talk about a consistency,

Gil, but the Spurs have been consistent as of late. Don't say that shit like you're just on my side. You can't say that's like you on my side, Joe. I'm on team. No, if you're not like me like that, you can't be agreeing with me and still be friends with people. Niggas betrayed me last Thursday. Chad had my back.

Appreciate everybody in the chat for support. But I got said. So Spurs been oppressive against, Inconsistent against other top teams in the NBA, eight and one record against the Thunder Piston Celtics, Knicks and Nuggets, which does not include their Knicks loss in the NBA Cup. Also, 9 and 0 in February,

leading the league in points per game, scoring margin, assists, points in the paint per game this month, also have the fourth best defensive rating in February 3rd best this season. So when you hear all of that in Black History Month was coming to conclusion in the next couple of days,

are the spurs clicking at the right time? Yes, I believe so. I believe so for them to be as young as they are, the teams that they play, the tests, the battles that they have to go through this season, to be on a nine-game winner street going into the playoffs in the second half the season. I mean, you can't ask for more. You know, they struggle sometimes, but a lot of teams struggle. But I still just feel like, man, when they, you know, depends on who they see in the playoffs,

man, it's going to be scary. So I'll be careful trying to see the spurs first round or a second round. Can you feel like the spurs are clicking at the right time? They've been playing consistent all season. You know, they, yeah, they've been playing consistent all season. There's no surprise that they have put together a nine-game winstreet at this point. They'd be some really good teams. They learned a lot about themselves playing Oklahoma City and the way that they competed against them.

Those games having some meaning to them, to the spurs that is. So, yeah, no, there's no surprise that they're on a nine-game win streak right now. They have really good team. They defend well. They have an anchor back there on defense and Wemby. So, yeah, I'm not surprised, not at all. Thank you. Let's move on to yourself.

I know you still think, you know, a Spurs believer, but would you say this nine-game stretch nine and old month of February coming in and out of all-star break? He's got, he has a book out. How, wait, what happened? Because I was just going back to the last 10 games of Wembe trying to figure how consistent he was by scoring 25 or more. He average is 24 for the season, Gil, but. In the last 10 games, because, you know, consistent means what?

How much is consistent? Like, if the average is 24, how, King, can you answer this? How, what is consistent? If you average 24, 24 or more, like, what is consistent? number out of 10 games. You would have to do to keep your average at 24? No, no, no.

To be, we're saying consistent. That's what I'm asking. So if he's average in 24 within those 10 games, within those 10 games, at least 8 of the 10, he would have to score at least 24. And that will be, you're consistently. Yeah.

How about you, Rashad? What is your definite? What is consistent? How many times does he need to? score over 24 out of 10 games to be consistent in your world? Stat man, stat man, yeah, that's me. Okay, let's do the stats. In the last 10 games, I believe I've seen that it said he's averaging 25 and 13

over the last 10 games. I don't need to know what he was doing in those 10 games to know that the averages tell me he was playing. consistent basketball. I'm asking, I just ask you, what is, so he average short so happy. I mean, you even moved to the, so in those 10 games,

25 or more how many times would be considered consistent? No, it wouldn't. That's what you're using. No, I mean, we know what we're talking about. The average is the average. He's averaged 24 and 12 in his last same, 24 on the dot and 12 rebounds. I know he's averaging.

Okay, I'm just telling you. 10 games. I'm saying what, when you're, you say consistent. Average. Average means consistent. I ain't going to lie, man. I ain't going to lie.

You get cooked right now. If you have three Fs in the class, I ain't going to lie. You get cooked right now, bro. If you have three Fs in the class and three A's in a class, what is your average? A C for the class, right? You're a C student, correct?

Yeah. You can't lean on the fucking A's, nor can you lean on the Fs. You're in the middle. You're in the average of a C student, right? So if I say, are you consistently a B student and you just want to lean on the fucking three A's and ignore the three Fs,

you're not consistent at your grades? So yes, he averages 24 and 13. And I'm asking you, out of the 10 games, how many times do you think he scored over 24. It don't matter. It don't matter. He's averaging 24.

Well, he's definitely done it over six or seven times. And you're wrong. Hey, and this is why... I'm wrong, too? And this is, yes, of course. This is why it's the problem because you're just leaning on... Hey, hey, Brandon, it would have to be five, right? I said six or...

No, he said five. It would have to. That's why I was hoping you said five. So, like I said no to your ass, too. Oh, you're trying to predict some shit. You getting cooked, bro. You just cooking yourself. Wait, to average over 24, he wouldn't have to do it over six times out of 10 games?

No, he doesn't have to. See, this is a problem. In theory, he can only do it just one time. If he scores enough points to balance it up. So, Joe, just bring, hey, Joe, could you just bring up the 10 games? Can you just bring up? I've been telling you guys the 10 games. No, not the average.

Like, the actual, like, what he scored those last 10 games. So he has five games with 25 or more, seven games with 20 or more. Brandon, you were right. And then 17, 16, and 16 in three games. Say that again. So you stop listening to a nigga, what was the last games? This is the problem

how he says shit. If I score 100 my first game, I'm averaging 100, right? Yes. I'm averaging 800 points. If I score one point the next game, you're not averaging 100. You cut 1-1 and a half.

I am not a consistent person, but you'll have someone like here says he has to be consistent. He's averaging 50 fucking something points. So, let me bring it up. I'll bring it up. Let me bring it up, Joe.

Please do it. I have it right here. I have it right here. Go ahead. Joe, what did you do for him? So again, five games with 25 or more in his last 10 games.

Okay. And the other games? Seven games of 20 or more. Then the three games below 20, he has 17, 16, and 16. Three games he had lower than 25. No. No.

Five games. Yeah. So he had 20. What was the other numbers other than 16, 17, and what was that? I'll read. Yeah. No, so he's had, he's got seven games with 20 or more. And then three.

Seven games with 20 or more. So you would say if we take the number from 24 a game to 20 a game, yeah. We would be able to say, Wimby is averaging a consistent. 20 points a game, which then we would be able to say Wendy is being consistent on a nine-game win streak. Yes.

Okay. So wanted to make sure. Yeah. 20 is not good enough, though. 20's not good enough for consistent. And the nine-game win streak, he's averaging 25 and 12, if you guys can. If he's average in 25, then 20 wouldn't be consistent. It would be below average.

It would be It would be called below average. So, so this is how you wrote it. How many times was he below average? Josiah. Was he below the 24 he's averaging? How, yes. How many times was he below average?

Five. Okay. Out of 10, right? Five out of 10. Five above 24, five below 24. If that is the threshold. That sounds pretty consistent to me. I wish I had that man.

I'm getting cooked right now, but why I would use that bitch every time. He didn't get cooked so bad. He don't even want to admit it. We should just bend and change the topic. Let's get to some other shit. This ain't even fair. It all makes sense.

Back to the point, though. Of the spurs clicking at the appropriate moment, Wimby aside. Hey, you know, your green screen ain't all? Yes, I do. That means we can turn it to whatever the fuck we want to when it's over. Whatever grave yard we want to put back here, whatever anything, put some shit back here.

So, good, a follow-up question for you, then what is it going to take for you to have confidence in this Spurs team moving into the postseason? Obviously, the Young Squad, winning his third year, Safon Castle in the second year, Deering Fox, you said, needs to be the go-to guy. What do you need to see from this Spurs team? Oh, what I need to see?

them playing to their dominant attributes. Right? When you're talking about great teams, the great teams do what they do best. And my seven foot six guy

not knowing what his go-to game is, it's not going to, it's like are you, like I don't see some games you go in the post take advantage of that. It's like you're trying to do the same thing on everybody.

Like you want to drive on a guy that's stronger, faster and quicker than you. But you're taller than him, right? That looks like a problem, right? Where you can identify with what you're trying to do. Well, I guess that team is going to be tough. Please explain, can you? Because without, so they got two guys. Just say if they met in the finals, right?

Like, Detroit, San Antonio, meeting the finals. I'm looking at how Durian and Stewart would play him. It's how I would play in. And what is that? Not let you catch the ball where you want to catch it. At the top of the three. I'll let you catch it there. But you won't catch the ball and where you speak in there

that you think you should go get it at. Like, he'll have to work his ass off. And he don't weigh enough. So basically, it's your business. benefit where he's catching it at the three trying to dribble past you yeah i wanted to catch the ball where i wanted me to catch the ball where i wanted me catching it yeah and that's and that's i'm gonna be as physical as i positing and they got two guys that can do that so i think that's like because at this point he is going to defer because he's not physical enough to he's going to defer to

okay i still have this in my bag right and that's what we want you to do i want you to dribble the ball against me. If I'm doing and Azale Stewart. These are the things I want you to do. No beef stew in that game. I know what I'm saying? I know I'm saying. Listen, we talk in the same talk. Yeah.

He understands what I'm saying. Yeah. He's got to defer. Any pushback, he's going to defer. So now instead of playing four out one in like Brendan thought their offense was, you're making it five out one in. Now you got all five guys shooting jumpers.

Makes it easy. It's the same thing. That's Porzingis, right? He's going to, if there's any deterrent, right, he's going to stop free throw line. He's not going to go past the free throw line. Oh, stop. He's going to catch the ball on the wing, catch the ball on the top of the kid, do his thing.

That's just, like, what it is. He's really good at it, but he has to perfect catching it instead of dribbling it, catching it, turning a shoe right over them. Go, create the little space if you can and working on your footwork to be able to get your shots off. So that's the same way people try to play. I tried to play Kevin Durant.

Mm-hmm. Same way I tried to play Dirk Nevinsky. Like, it's just the same thing, right? I want you to catch the ball where I want you to catch it. So those do, they knew that. So they got good at catching the ball at those areas. Like, this is what people, this is the way people are going to try to play me. So let me get good at catching the ball here, not just there.

So I get the point that you're making, yeah. And I get me, Sean saying as well, but I get the part that you making Gil about his where he gets the ball at consistently and where his shots come from, consistently like if he's on fire and get him shoot five three five plus three is a game okay you make your first two three

you two for three three okay I get you shooting more but to consist for him to consistently shoot five six threes a night does his game a disservice because he doesn't have to settle for that that's all okay

um if um khan He said 11 more points. He would have had 30 something, right? I think we had 16, if I'm not mistaken. He had 16, right? Wimby played the way he played because Detroit plays a certain style of basketball.

And apparently the Spurs played a certain style of basketball on Kay Cunningham. I believe that they were equally neutralized with their star players and the other guys had to step up. And the other guys to Detroit. We're talking about just a consistent. Can I finish my point? Can I, I let you back to, can I finish my point? Can I get to my shit at some point?

What I'm saying is your point? At my point, can I get to my point? Are you addressing what we were talking? No, I'm just, I'm just making my statement. I'm making my statement. Okay. So, so, I'm making my statement. I'm adding to the conversation.

No, you're not in our conversation talking about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm adding. I know you don't like it. It's cool. You're going to be all right. We're talking about the general offense of a consistent night. No, I'm talking about the consistent offense for the pistons. So Jalen Darden, 25, cool.

Kay Cunningham, 16, we don't, ain't nothing to say about that, right? I mean, you take him out. He doesn't perform well for his team to win. Still had 10-11 assists, man. What's that, what's that have to do with anything? I don't know. Hey, hey. We're trying to check out what you're...

Hey, Brandon, how are you doing today, Brandon? Oh, okay. Y'all going to deflect from the cooking. Y'all going to deflect from the cooking. Y'all don't want me to cook. I'm not getting cooked. Why, y'all don't want me on the soul. Y'all don't want me on the soul no more.

Y'all don't want me to talk. Oh. That's crazy. We're talking about crazy. You're talking about this game. We're talking about, like, just the offense, like Spurs. Spurs with Duncan. I never got to my point.

I mean, I can't even get to my point. He was going to get the ball day in and day out. We know AI. We know we know we're no recurring. We know the things Curry's going to do. We know Lucas, we know consistently he's going to be in picking rolls. We consistently what these guys are going to be in. We were talking about as of right now, we don't see the like the day in and day out where he's going to get.

If he's taking 17 shots of game, we don't know. Is he going to be a consistent team? in a certain area in a certain style. Right? Are they going to consistently do this? That's what we're talking about. It's not just the game you were talking about. So you're going to tell a little baby

you get that fucking piece of paperwork out of here. You know, all right, moving on. Anywho, Spurs and Pissons face off again, March 5th, San Antonio. I'm sorry, why are you letting them treat me like they treat you, man? Why are you just letting them push me out the box? No, you can do. That's insane. That is fair.

That's insane. bro, why they're treating us like this? Why they're treating us like this? You saw it. We be the ones cooking. We've got to the niggins' blight. Let me say nothing. Let me say absolutely nothing for five minutes.

Let me say it. It's my turn. Let me say nothing. It's hard out here for us. Go ahead, Joe. My bad. Go ahead. Can we unite?

Let's take a break. I just, I just asked him. Brett and I was doing today. I'm good, man. I was trying to, you know. Talk about the Spurs, man, because I'm happy for the Spurs. They're rolling right now. A nine-game win streak, you know, they're on up and up.

Somebody picked the Spurs, Brandon. Somebody picked the Spurs in training camp, man. Somebody did. No, you did. You did. They've been tested. I mean, no, they've been battle-tested. They've been shored up.

I can't front. So we know why you're going hard for your team. I'm not going to, I haven't went hard at all yet. I'm just warming up. I'm just warming up. I'm just working up for your team, right? We understand why you're sticking up for your guys. right?

So he had to, cool, but we understand why you're sticking up for your guys. Absolutely. We get that. But we just pointing out, he was pointing out something that he saw,

that's all. And that the guy needs to catch the ball or he wants to catch it. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. Talk about your team, though. Talk about,

you talk about the Lakers. Talk about whoever team y'all pick. We got a dick pink with my team. My team doing what the fuck they're supposed to be doing. Y'all teams ain't doing what they're supposed to be doing. I don't have a team. In the playoff series, because it's going to come down to it, in the playoff series, who is you guys, go to guys?

Like, in the playoffs. We are a team. We are the 18. I know, but what I'm saying is, like, when they come down to that game five, game six, you're going to need somebody. We don't, no, we don't. No, we don't. No, we don't. We got five guys that's going to be able to make this shot.

So I get what he's saying. Like, so this is what the way the spurs are going, right? it's it's like well we didn't win it but my it's too like my net's teams right where any given day we know who's supposed to be scoring it we know that but some days the bitch jess ain't going to go in and we got five guys that average double figures

and some guys some days is one guy going I have 35 the next game in a I think he's also with them some nights which I get Gil's point But most nights is who has it going? You know what I'm saying? Like it's just who has it going and who does it? And them dudes did an excellent job by them having 18 assists,

Castle and Fox. Being aggressive offensively, shots ain't going, but still finding open teammates and making plays. So them having 18 assists between two guys with the misses that they had at the rim and the threes that they missed, the Air Fives going 0-4-5 from three. Cal's not playing as well as he would like, missing double-digit shots.

Yeah, but they still found a way to engage other than scoring at the ball one going in that night. So I think that's what they can lean on in a playoff series. Yeah, is it helpful that you have a Kevin Durant and a Devin Booker and, yeah, is it helpful? Absolutely. To have a Jalen Bronson, a Tyrese Maxia,

Anthony Edwards, it is very helpful in the incidents. Like Gilbert arenas or Kobe Bryant or, yes, Tracy McGregie. It is very helpful to have those guys, those closers and those guys that you know you can throw, Carmelo Anthony, that you know you can throw the ball to when you need a bucket. It is very helpful to a team and a coaching staff and everybody involved, right? But it's also beneficial at nights when you don't know where it's going to. coming from and you can the sale can come out and give

you 28. Champagne can come out and give you 19 when so it's very helpful and useful to teams and you see both sides of it. Has anybody ever won a championship playing like that? But we knew where the ball was going the last two minutes and three minutes. Yeah, he's named Big Shot. Yeah, two people would shoot the ball in the last

yeah. So. So, Jane. So, Dean, all the names just stated and the, the, you don't think something's wrong with that then? No. Oh, I know. You don't? Because he's still not, because you want to make, you want to make something wrong. Yeah, you know why?

Then you know why? I want to make something wrong because it's team basketball. Because the guy, because, because, because Wimby is in his third year. Uh-huh. I don't think it's meant to, like, he is heading into that direction. to demand the ball late and he's heading in the direction, yes. So we know the potential there. I don't expect it from Castle.

Deeran Fox will defer. It should be the guy. Okay. Yeah, Fox should be the guy when the balls and when the game is on the line. Okay. Last two, three minutes, you know where it's going, you know it's going to be a pick and roll, and he's going to be the determining fact on what happens.

Okay. So the last two minutes. He should be that, right? The last two minutes, three minutes of the game, if you was coaching. But he deferring to the guy, though. What would your offense look like? Oh, it would be him controlling the pace like the other guys. It would be me to be.

Probably pick and roll with Wendy. Absolutely. Yes, every time. Oh, every time. Every single time. And then you dictating who gets the shot. Either you're going to get an open look, you're going to get something at the rim, a lob, we'll be on the roll.

We're going to get a swing, swing dictated by your action. Absolutely. Appreciate it. Or, hey, or can you, we can put Castle in that pick and roll to put the Fox in the slot. Absolutely.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Because he's a better shooter. We allow him to take the side if he gets castle on God's shit. Yes. Yes.

Absolutely. But the ball still ends up in Deeran Fox's hands either way you put it, right? Okay. So, yes. But if Castle has it going that day. That day. So, but that game, right,

Castle got it going. 40 point triple doubles, this, that, and the third he's put on the board. So if it's one of those nights, then yeah, you put the ball in his hand. Because he has that particular game, you do the coach, and you coach each individual game in that manner.

Right? Some games mellow didn't have it going at the end of the games. And big shot, hey, we need you to go give us a bucket or we need lay day, we need a post up. And we need a, so yes, in certain situations, those things occur. But I get that Deeran Fox, should be, because he has the most experience,

and we know what he's capable of doing. It's an all NBA caliber player. So we know what he's capable of doing, yes. But he will defer to the young guy because the young guy is a bona fide superstar in a lot of people's minds, right? And at times we're like, no, dude, you need to go, hey, no, you go dictate this.

But we haven't seen it yet in the playoffs because they haven't been there yet. so let's see how it plays out. But I like where there are and I like where they're heading, like what their coaching staff is doing. So they have pieces. So I like where it's headed, man. But, yeah, like, Wendy is not there yet mentally to, like,

I'm not going to be deterred when it, when it counts, I think, because he's still fresh. I mean, he's been in his 23 years. I mean, he's been in his three years still finding his footing. You accept that, Rashad, right? Yeah, that's good, right? That's good, right? Did I help your argument, Rashad?

No. I didn't need, I didn't need help, can you? You know, I don't need no help, my nigga? I've been doing this shit for a long time, my nigga. It's beat for itself. You see the game, like Hooper's see the game, so it didn't have to, I mean, we're watching it. You see it like I see it.

You're a Hooper. You can tell team basketball. Yeah, I'm explaining it to the fans. Yeah, and I'm glad you did, because I'm, Now, I don't have to because they respect your lineage, your career more than mine. So when you say it, it come off a little bit different than I say it. You know what I'm saying? But it's still truth at the end of the fucking day.

It's still who, you know who just as well as I do. Wembe might not even have that footing. But who was the most clutches player in the league the last, like two years ago, I think, maybe a year and a half, I think it was the Aaron Foss. The first winner of the Clutch Player of the Year Award. Right, right. So we have a clutch player on our team if we wanted to say you take the shot.

It don't even have to be Wemby, but he wanted to be Wemby because he's the best player. But you got a good team. So when you got a good team and it's not focused on individual play, you have more options to win because anybody can step up and help the fucking win.

So did you agree with him or didn't you? It doesn't matter. I don't have to agree with him. It could. He cooked. He cooked. He's telling the truth. He cooked. But you're celebrating.

No, I say he cooked. That's what I'm saying. He cooked. He let you know that you have two players on your team, that the ball should be in their hand, night in the night out of the end. But it's not. They're not doing that.

There's still, in nine-game win-stream, there's still 41 and 16. There's still two. I let you say it in the West. Where you talk? I let you celebrate. I ain't celebrate yet. I haven't celebrated yet.

What I was saying is exactly what he said, that if he was coaching, the offense will be the same offense that I don't see them doing because they have a two-time all-star who goes downhill. He hits game winners. He has game shots. He won a war for it. You have a big man who's dominant, right? he's whimby yammy he's supposed to be the best motherfucker that the world doesn't have ever seen

these two in a pick and roll if that's not going to put cast on something that identifies your offense day in and day out that's exactly what i was saying and you were wrong thank you kingin because he agreed with you saying it i appreciate it again we were both listening and he did not say shit like that he just waited for you to finish to say he said the same shit. We can hear you talking on the fucking camera, bro. You didn't say nothing that he said.

I did not say... You're just saying shit that he said. Diccan you be getting cooked for 40 minutes now. You're just talking over. What are you talking about? Did I say that... Did I say about their offense? What did I say about the offense?

Yes. Come on, Ken, you don't save this. You don't have a thing. You don't have a... He said that'd have a consistent. He said they don't have a consistent. He said they don't have a good thing. He said he said.

number one. I appreciate it. Man, I need a drink. But who is the consistent number one? I think about going to HQ after this kid. Who is a consistent number one? Oh, man. Think about going to HQ?

Lord. God damn. Right. God damn. But let's keep this thing. We got a lot more to get into on this episode of Gilbert your arena presented by Underdog Woo-Woo. Hey, Joe, do me in favor.

Appreciate it. Whatever the next set, whatever the next segment is your side, can you please start with Brandon? We love Mr. Bender and Gilles Verdez. Brandon said four words. We've been on the air for hours, 10 minutes. I want to go out. We've been on air.

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No Axel Foley there to save them. Proceeded to take it out on the Lakers as the Celtics got the blowout wind to slow out. Boston with 32 points, eight rebounds, seven assists, while Peyton Pritchard added 30 and eight assists off the bench going six for nine from three with both Brown and Pritchard putting up 19 each in the second half. Celtics held the Lakers with their second lowest point total of the season as the purple and goal dropped to eight and four in games where Luca LeBron and Austin Reeves all play together this season.

Boston is second in the east with a one-game lead over the Knicks with Brown in the midst of his best season as a pro, averaging career highs of 29.7 rebounds of five assists after the game. LeBron was asked about Brown's season so far and whether he was worthy of being in the MVP discussion had this to say. I think you just use the motivation of a while. A lot of people are just saying that they're going to have a down year because of, you know,

obviously JT being out, you know, them losing Drew, Al Luez, you know, Lee, Pras Angus Lees, the whole championship team pretty much is kind of revamped and he's that motivation to keep them afloat, they're playing great basketball and it's because of him and the rest of those guys. He's taking that next step. He's playing great basketball, man. And you can't, you can't for his, you know, this whole MVP thing. I don't understand why his name is not getting talked about some as well. Like nobody gave them a shot to start the season.

and he's having, what, 30? Yeah, just under 30? Yeah, it's a popularity contest sometimes. You feel like he could be? I mean, that's not for me. I'm going to be honest, I don't know the criteria of MVP anymore. I kind of stopped giving a damn about it a long time ago. I got my own person if he was about it.

Yeah, these guys will tell you why. Shout out, LeBron Ramon, James, Sr. So two parts, but let's start with the first one. With your thoughts on LeBron saying Jalen Brown is worthy of being in the MVP discussion. Oh, man, I love it. You know, I've been high on Jalen Brown since when he became a final MVP. But, you know, nobody had, you know, nobody had Boston this high. And I just think everything that he's done this year, putting the team on his back without Jason Tatum and, you know,

being able to play both sides of the floor and also lead his team. And, you know, he's having an incredible year, man. He's an incredible year. There's a lot of other guys, too, having a great year, too. But, you know, Jalen Brown being the second option and, you know, putting yourself as number one and, you know, taking your team like this is big. Definitely in the top, definitely in the top five. Let's move on to Cemetery Larry. No, man, they got to give them more time.

Brandon, they get you all that time. You got to give us more. Brandon, you've been very supportive with Jaylen Brown over the past few seasons. Yeah, I have been. But the season is over. I mean, there's other guys that are playing well, too. So it's a tough race. I can't just give it to them.

You know, we've got to finish, you know, Detroit is still number one. You know, SGA's still doing his thing. But is he playing at a top level? Hell yeah. Hell yeah, he is. But, you know, it's just other guys in this league, too, man. That are doing it too. That aren't getting love either.

I agree. Okay. I agree. To me, it's still early. Like I already said, Wimby out there playing his mind. And there's, you know, guys that are continuing to rise.

You know, Maxie ain't let up at all. Brunson ain't let up. You know, still guys out there bawling. And, you know, the criteria is always going to be the criteria. Criteria ain't really changed, especially with guys who got it, they got it based on criteria. So it's always going to be political at some point. It's always going to be numbers based at some point.

But who's playing the best basketball at the time? It's always going to be up in the air. Everybody, somebody going to get snubbed. Somebody going to feel like they deserved it more than the other guy. And it's really right now social media push. Everybody's pushing certain people based on skin color, based on, oh, I'm friends. with them. I got their number. We're in the text thread. It don't even matter what it is. At this point, everybody's going to push who they like.

I like Winfinyana, so I'm going to push him. But, I mean, I think LeBron supporting Jalen Brown, obviously especially considering the situation they had. Brown was also asked about the comments that Jailen Brown had made about Brony back in Summer League in 2024 when he said he wasn't a pro. And Braun said that our relationship been pretty respectful besides that shit. He said about Brony. But other than that, we've been all right. So hearing LeBron Kenyon give Jalen Brown this support after Jalen Brown was caught on camera, trashing his child. Do you think that adds more weight to what Brown is saying about Jalen Brown in the season he's having?

Well, first and foremost, Jalen Brown is the title to his opinion, no matter what. So that's the way he felt. That's the way he felt. The kid was in the NBA at the time. So it's his opinion. So, yeah, no, it's because if anybody knows what an MVP looks like, Mr. LeBron James, he knows what it takes in order to win the award and to carry a team. Yeah, so he's been there and for him to recognize where Boston was slated to finish to start the season and to where they are now.

You have to give Jalen Brown credit. You have to give Joe Missoula credit, what credit is due. But, yeah, no, Jaylon Brown is playing out of his mind. So he definitely should be mentioned consistently when the MVP talks are being had. His name definitely needs to be mentioned more than it is, I believe. I know only one guy can win the award and it's going to be everybody, like we said, like LeBron said, at times, it's a popularity contest, which is unfair to the guys who probably don't have a signature shoe or who don't have.

a signature shoe or who don't have, who's not on commercials and different things like that every hour on an hour. So, but to be, going out and doing his job and to put his team at a position that no one thought that they would be in, yeah, you got to give Jaylon Brown his flowers, man. And Bron did that. So that's what's up. Gil, how about yourself? Thoughts on LeBron saying Jalen Brown deserves more love in the MVP discussion?

No, I agree. You know, doing some research from the beginning of the month. for preseason. So they had them ranked 8th in the East and 16th in the NBA. So the fact that Brown has, Brown and Boston are sitting third, third best team in the NBA right now.

I think they have the third best record. What was it 39, 30, was it 37 wins? Yeah, 37 to 19. Yeah, so they have the third best, record in the NBA right now, yes, he should be considered a MVP Kennedy. So they're fourth behind San Antonio, but everything else you said, it makes sense. So, you know, at this moment in time, when you're talking about you already, you had them ranked eighth in the east and 16th in the NBA.

So the fact that, you know, this is where they are right now, you have to, you have to give them his credit. right, especially when you didn't think he could do this, especially at a high level and the team wins, right? That is an MVP candidate. And, you know, you have to give him his flowers and his credit. Well, let's shift to the other side of what Brown was saying. And Ken, you already touched on a little bit.

But do you guys agree with LeBron saying that the MVP is a popularity contest? And I said that with the caveat, SGA last year, obviously got his first MVP award. There was just a clip that got posted from Jeopardy where they asked the contestants what SGA stands for and they all just sat there with blank faces. So don't necessarily know how popular he is. I know he's got the signature show.

Yeah, it's not a jeopardy question, but in the sports world, like, yeah, of course. Like in the basketball community, yeah. Yeah, it's a popularity contest, man. Like, I just, along with your play, like it ain't just who everybody like gonna get MVP now but you got to play well of course

in order to lead that and then you need you need a machine behind you to push you so his play speaks for itself the play is first of course but and then Brent Humboldes

yeah I think it's play I think it's what the NBA wants to push your market your marketable ability I mean my last favorite MVP probably ever was probably Derek Rose. I'm going to go by just saying Derek Rose because of what he did all year.

He had those moments, the marketing behind them. Adidas was pushing him from Chicago. But it was more of the moments, though, that Derek Rose had to me that made him MVP and one of my favorites. And then, Sean, how about yourself? Do you think the MVP is a popularity contest like LeBron said? I mean, based on the metrics of a preseason ranking for a team, the Spurs were 20th.

They're now number two. And the player that's leading that team is 25 and, you know, 13. And he's on a minute's restriction. So I would see him being a clear-cut guy to do that and be put in front of Jalen Brown, which is what I was saying before. But the metrics of an MVP, It's not going to be based on popularity.

It's going to be based on how you finish, I believe, and where your projection is going to go when you get to the playoffs. The popularity push comes from essentially the players who chime in enough to sway the public vote. When the players get involved, it's when people believe that it should be this person or that person. And the players get involved based on who they are closer to who resonate with them the most. So that's why I feel like Wemby's a clear cut than Jalen Brown, even though Jalen Brown's doing it essentially without Jason Tatum. But Wemby had a longer trajectory, I believe.

Did you say essentially without him? No, he is doing it without him. There's no adjective that you should use in front of that. he's fucking doing it without me, no. I use the word because I'm a grown-ass man and I can use any word I want to do. It doesn't fit. But it fit for me because I'm the delusional, nigger.

No, it doesn't fit. I'm not the nigger that's going to use the words everybody wants to use. No, but it doesn't fit. It's for me. It fits for me. No, it doesn't work. It doesn't fit for you, but it fits for me. No, no, it don't fit for no one.

It fits for me. It fits for me. It's doing it without him. Doing it without him. Essentially, he's doing what he's doing. So let me ask you this, Michelle. So on that team that you said was slated to finish 20th, right? They had them preseasoned to finish 20th.

Do they still have their number one guy? Did you say, do they still have their number one guy? And has he been there most of the season? Yeah, what are you getting at? I'm asking the question. You know what it You're asking rhetorical questions So therefore they have that

Number one guy So they was expect to finish No they don't No they don't Yeah they do No they don't Yeah they do Hey Mr. B

What's them plaques his shit behind the world What was with that? No Nope No Don't be laughing man You got chival Don't bring Brandon into this

No Brandon just said No, Brandon just stated. No, Brandon just said. Brandon, what did you just said when you made your statement? I said, for the number two guy, I said, for the number two guys. I said for the guy that they had the number two guy and to do it. For the guy that they had number two, they did have him as a number two.

They had. Absolutely. And to get the number one role and to go out there and do what he did. Yeah. Did I ever have him as a number two guy? No. So I never had him in. So I don't know who they are.

I don't know who they are. You started the season, and they were slaved to be two and it. I don't know who they are. Now they're doing better. Absolutely. This guy, they had to finish 16. The world did have Jaylon Brown as number two. They did.

But he's playing like he is the number one. So he absolutely, yes, absolutely. But they were slaved to finish 16 with him. So without their number one guy. And they're in a much better place than that. So. And obviously, the meth is cooking. It is, well.

I gotta make sure I don't get the meth burns. The shit I make niggas meat suit, nigga. Damn, man, you gotta you gotta quit swagger jacket, my jeez. Come on, man. You gotta stop swagger jacking, bro.

I don't want it. I really don't want it. I'm sorry. You know, this is that nigger's swagger jacket like a long look. He said I don't vote it. He said I don't vote it. You know what the problem was

with all of what in music. What did that have to do with the question that man asked? This didn't say who should win the MVP. He asked, should he be in the conversation? We know Wimby's in the conversation. We didn't say with Wimby or Jalen Brown over Wimby. You just ask, should he be part of the conversation? I don't answer questions the way niggas won't.

me to answer questions. Hey, who is, who is that man? Who is that man? I got a name. I don't give you no answer you all. It was the back. Him downstairs. I ain't got no name.

Didn't even know this was the part of who, who has a better chance winning. I guess y'all know. I'm not going to tell y'all, niggas what you all want to hear. I'm not going to give you niggas what you want to hear. Hey, what the fucking end. We just want the. Hey, you got. Hey, you bring Nick on.

You bring Nick on to give me the answer you want to hear, you know what, you know. Bring Nick on. Bring Nick on for that shit. I ain't here for that. I ain't here for that. I ain't here for that.

How Wimby should be over Janan Brown. Obviously, he is over Jalen Brown. If we got to, if we got to put Janet Brown in it. Uh-oh, he's yelling. We're right here. Wimby's in the foundation. Okay. Hey, Joe, cut his, cut his volume down a little bit.

What? What? I wish I did. The thicker box is loud. And you telling us about fucking Wimby. We know Wimby's in the conversation. Just say you don't like what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.

Just say you don't like what I'm saying. We know Yokic is in the conversation. The question was, should Jalen Brown be added to the conversation? Just say you don't like what I said. Don't be sweating and shit. You got that hot-ass suit on. Are you sweating? Is that a sinus suit or a meth-cooker-s-cooker?

Huh? That's a... That's a high-s-in-bird. That's that eyes and bird, baby. That nigga, breaking bad right now. That's what he's doing. Breaking bed. Got to cook the meth up there.

Yeah. It's raining. Hey, don't cook the meth. Take the meth, my nigga. You need to take the meth. Don't cook the meth. Take the meth. You getting cooked too bad right now.

You should just take it. And take a knife. Now, take it and take it now. This is the virtual version of Gil's or interpersonal by their own. Josiah. No, I'm that man now, Gil. You've been playing me the last couple of days. I don't got a name no more.

Okay. I'm that man now. Right back, Joe, the nigga took your whole spot. He did. He did. He did. He wants you to still be friends with him and shit. That's weird.

My family watching. You know, if you ask a question and then, and then, He moves, like, way that way. You know, you can stop. Hey, oh, that's not the fucking question I asked. I ask just this question right here. Do you think Jenon Brown deserves to be mentioned in the MVP vote? That's it, you know?

I know, I hear you talking about anybody already in there. Can you answer this one? That's it. Y'all been doing this show for four seasons. It's not like when I ask a question, y'all just answer it. This man. Poking up water is good for you. It's very hydrating.

more than actual water, according to studies. But anyway, let's bring it back, as we tend to do here on Gil's virtual arena. Bring it back to what. The question I'm about to ask, Gil, dot, dot, dot. That was a dot, dot, dot, dot. To the question I'm about to ask. Yeah, I got a random, all right, Joe,

I got a random question. I'm sitting here watching a clip from USA basketball practice. Why they got them doing close-out drills? So it's supposed to be the best 14, 15 motherfuckers in the world, right? In the U.S. from NBA, right? If you own that team, you don't know how to fucking do closeouts. I'm just going to go out of limb so you probably should be there. But go ahead, Joe.

I don't, I just, my bad. Hey, fundamentals. You know, that's a lot of clothes out. You know, that's part of it. No, we're going to skip that if I'm coaching the Olympic team. I'm not wasting, not wasting five, ten minutes. my fucking practice the teeth work on the fucking clothes I drill for you. It's just not what I'm going to do.

But my bad, Joe, I didn't mean, I, yeah, I just saw it. This is a conversation came. There are no best. It just sparked me as, like, somebody teaching my seven-year-old about weak side defense. Like, same shit. Like, he's going, no. Go ahead. This is a free-flowing conversation that came to your point.

I have been working with my seven-eight-year-olds on that same situation. So to hear you say that. And good luck with it. We got to playoff game tonight. We're going to find out. Hey, niggia, you can't get your child to turn off the light consistently in his room. Do you think you're going to be able to get the 7-year-old? No, no, we have elaborate defenses.

We're rolling out for the playoffs. We'll see if they can adhere to the game plan. But if not, it's going to be a situation. I got the same 7-year-old that you had. I got one in here. Trust me. But back to the whole MVP. Did you turn the light off in your room?

Put the clothes and the hamper. But we talk about MVP criteria. It seems like it shifts. every single year. Shea wins last year. Yolk his first big man, NBA history, first senator, average, a triple double. Yolk is doing very similar this year despite the stretch of games. He misses.

Obviously, he's one, misses two more games. He's not eligible for MVP. But it seems like the criteria shifts every single season from season to season. So what should the criteria be for the most valuable player? And your gentleman's opinion, with all your basketball knowledge, years of NBA experience, what is the criteria for the most valuable player in the NBA? Good luck.

What is the criteria? Good luck. What is the criteria, in my opinion? Your team being number one, how important you are to the team, your big moments during the season, you know, defensively how good your team is, your leadership, vocally.

What? As an MVP? Yeah, defensive team rating, what they got to do with you. No, no, I said not ratings. I said on the defensive end, as far as like my individual defense and the team. Oh, you said, oh, his individual.

Yeah, yeah, all together. Okay, my bad. All together. And I guess your marketing, too. I mean, I think it's more of the big moments too and where they had you ranked too and how far you come. So we talked about it before. Team success.

Should it have an impact? Should it not have an impact? If that's the case, Jalen Brown having the Celtics with the third best record in the league at this point, has he deserved more love, K. Cunningham, having the Pistons, They're flip-flopping between the top record, second best record, best record in the east by a comfortable margin. Impact on winning team success.

Like I think, yeah, I do think where they had you slated, starting to start the season where you finish matters. It should, and if you are leading that charge, I think it should be a part of it. I don't know what percent of it. But yeah, so I think individual success, team success, Um, yeah, I just, both of those things should add up. Um, not saying that you have to finish first in order to be the MVP because other guys have had better individual season.

The team has done great and won the award. So I just don't see that's that being a factor in their voting process. And it wouldn't be in mind as well. But yeah, I just, yeah. your defense I don't think it matters in the in the in the conversation should it probably but it doesn't so I'm not going to put it in there that wouldn't boost wind be up I mean we talked about it a little last week but that wouldn't necessarily boost wendy up in your mind if you got a defensive player of the year candidate I mean just watching that

pistons game and with him on the floor that too you got to put defense in it has to win it In his case, it has to. But in a case like Joel and B, it doesn't. You know what I'm saying? Because the offense, the offense does so much more than it. In Nicola's situation, it doesn't. It doesn't factor in when people are voting, when they're voting for the, when those guys won their MVP.

It didn't factor in. It did factor in. But Wendy and Wood, the other people, the other people was involved in the race were not, both sides of the ball candidates. Neither is Joelle and B, so it doesn't matter. That's why it didn't matter. When it was going between them for the last three years,

it didn't matter. But it mattered with Janus. Because you factor because of how he plays the game. And it's almost unanimous based on he's playing both sides. So if Yonis is fourth in that race between Joker and B, if Janice is fourth in that race. But when James and Steph is going back and forth of the MVP, defense fucking doesn't matter.

Because there was nobody else in the category that was playing defense for it to matter. Even if it, so Kauai Lennel was never in that conversation? Not when they were. The offensive output is going to exceed with nobody else in the defensive output can't even balance the equation. So didn't Kauai win the league?

Didn't Toronto win a MVP when James was out there doing what he was and Steph was out of doing what he was doing. Like, Kauai was in that mix. You're in, you're out. But my thing is, but those, like you said, those guys' offensive output better. Kauai's defense, what he was averaging 26, 27, six and five.

And his defense, it didn't, the mother dudes, what James was putting up and what Steph was putting up nightly, the metrics mattered more for the people that was voting. But with Wim being honest, you have to because with their dominant at it, the Wembe is dominant at defense. So it would be a part of his conversation.

Yes, but not for the masses. It doesn't. Lucas, Luca ain't in, Luca, Lucas not in the MVP conversation because he's a fucking stellar defender by any stretch of imagination. With Wemby being in the conversation right now,

Jalen Brown fits that, yes. Are they going to equate that? don't know. But for the masses, overall, I don't believe defense matters when they're voting for the MVP. Certain guys, it does, yes. But not overall.

I don't think it does. Like, with you honest, did they put the fact that he, what he was doing defensively for his team in that equation? Yes. Are they using that for Wemby, the reason that he is ahead of Jalen Brown

down MVP conversation? I think they are using that metric, absolutely. But I just don't think for everybody every year defense is on the docket. When you vote, what is he doing for his team? When Jalen Brunson is in the conversation, he's not

fucking defending anyone in that manner. It just he's done who he's doing what he's doing. I just, they move the needle for everybody. So they're just what it is. And I just, for me, if I had to put it together, I just, yeah, if Wimby is doing what he's doing his team finishing one, two, then yeah, you use it. They can't

for Joelle, they can't for Nicola, they came for James Hard, they came for Steph Curry. Like, they just can't. They can't for Luca. They just can't use that metric. You know, I see you over there, grinning. I was trying to figure out if he was going to intervene on King is saying the same thing he's trying to say.

Oh, man, you're like watching me. No, I was just waiting because I thought you was going to interrupt. Niggins like watching me perform. I just thought you were going to interrupt him. Taking a break. game. I'm taking the break. But he was basically saying that because when he plays two sides, they're going to

have to try to figure out how to factor that in in the voting. Most valuable player, right? What does it really mean? It's very loose term. Like, is it most valuable

player to your team and your team's success? Most valuable player in the entire league? then that has to be based on team success the year before, team, who you have on your team and how value you are to the points, the defense, like, you know,

if you're averaging 120, if you're off the court, what does the point spread go by? Like there has to be, there's a metrics to all of it. Now, with someone like, your second, third in the NBA right now,

when you're off the floor, there is this big gap defensively that can't be ignored, right? Now, what does that do to the offensive side for offensive players? So somebody like, like, Yoki's just not on the floor offensively. What does it do to that team? So because we've all been brainwashed

and we've seen the up and down of it, it's hard to say, what our true values are for picking an MVP, right? I have to go on, where are you ranked? What is your production? How value, how valuable are you to your team and the NBA itself? So, you know, what is your plus minus to your team? And then, like, there has to be some type of system.

I don't know. I've asked. I really don't. I don't really know to even say what I can, what I, what I would want in MVP. I know if I see it in real time who the MVP is. Like I knew like, okay, this year, hey, Kobe, you should have won this one or LeBron.

D. should have been your three. Jordan, that should have been your. You should have had, fucking six, seven in the row. Yeah, I mean, it's, when you're watching it in real time, you know who the MVP is. You know, I just can't tell you what I want from MVP. I just got to be watching it throughout the season.

So, like, right now, you know, Shea, Bokic, Cade, Wembe, Jalen Brown. Those would be my mind right now. And then probably throw Brunson in there, Brunton, Maxie, you know. Luca, somewhere in an 8, 9, 10, you know. If I can squeeze them in there, nobody going to complain. You know, I mean.

Yeah. Put it being a 7. I'm flat a bit of a 7-8. But I think, like, right now, Shea is running away with it. You say, She running away. So you don't think what Yolke is doing

is impressive enough this time. If it wasn't impressive enough last season. No, no. I'm just saying, I'm not saying. It is. You got to do something. I think it would be easier if he just misses a game. The other games, it's just like, it's just one of those things, man.

Like, this should be, I don't know, there should be another award, best player award, man, most valuable. And however the fuck they figure that out, it's like, okay, we know who the best player in the game is. And it's been a war for that. Do it like the NFL does it. Do it like the NFL does it. You got the offensive player here.

You got a defensive player at a year. You got a league MVP. you got most the best yeah so just I think you should do it in that matter man so guys can get rewarded for like if Nicola does miss out on MVP again right you get the best offensive player in the war because he averaging the triple double

and he averaged 12 or 6 right so let's let's honor him at for what he's doing and so he knows and feel slighted on his season like the NFL does right so you came up the most clutch award you came up the fucking best dress came up to the better so you came up the bell So you can't come up with,

no, my. Yeah, okay. The best dress. The fuck, man. Yeah, they get that award out at the end, fucking ceremony. So, yeah, it's, I was,

about you do, yeah, yeah, it's just what, yeah, it just one of them things, man, it's subjective to self-interpretation, and you have guys that people that vote that make their mind up way before the season is over.

That we know to be a fact. You got 100 Meteor members, with varying levels of basketball knowledge that are tasked with trying to depict this award. And they live in certain regions. Some live on the West Coast. They're not staying up and watching the total. They just live on the West Coast.

East Coast. It's just vice versa, man. You're not watching games. People at work, you got a second job that you being a writer is not your first job. So you're not watching all the games. You're not catching Boston play against fucking Chicago and mid.

You're not catching that game to see what Jalen Brown is doing, seeing his impact in the middle of the season. You're not watching Shea play against Sacramento on January 17th. You're just not watching it. So it's biased. I know you said you started to show off and say the biggest game of the night. And you said, there's only three games. There's only three games. You mentioned another two,

so if any of them, can the MVP want to do the... Rocket, like Kevin Durant, like, should we play it last night? We beat the shit out of our guys. Like, you ain't... You play the tank. But we play the jazz.

Because they play the jazz. But a battle of what, two of the top three teams in the NBA to that point, obviously the piss is dropped to now second overall best record in the league with the loss. Spurs in the top four.

But speaking of Kevin Durant. Let's keep this thing moving. Kevin Durant, most decorated men's basketball player in U.S. Olympic history, four-time gold medalist teams' all-time leading score. So even though Los Angeles games are still two years away, Durant wants to throw his name in the hat for the 2028 Olympics. In an interview with ESPN's Vince Goodwill, Durant offered these thoughts on playing in his fifth Olympics. Let's see if we have the right quote available. He said, hell yeah, I want to play. I would love to, but I've got to stay on top of my game. I'm not expecting. I want

to produce on the floor and make grant and whoever is making the decisions, want to put me on the team. I don't want, not just for seniority, I want to still prove I can help the team win. So according to ESPN's Mark Spears, Steph Curry hasn't ruled out playing

in his second Olympics in 2028 as well. If Katie and Steph do decide to play for Team USA in the next Olympics, the rent would be damn near 40 years old. Steph would be 40. When you look at this team, we had the oldest team in Olympic history last year that went out and won that gold. You got LeBroners already said he's tapping out.

Steph, like I mentioned, undecided, KD, saying he actually wants to play. Would you like to see KD play with Team USA in the 2028 Olympics? Yes. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Just for the culture and just to be around those young guys. He ain't got to be, listen, man.

He ain't got to be average in 25, man, to be. to be still efficient to still to be looked at as like this dude is a threat when he's on the floor. So you have to game playing around him for teams throughout the world. So yeah, like hell yeah. If he's still capable and he still feel he can still go out and do it at a high level and like he said, help the team win. I'm with him. Yeah. I mean, it's Kevin Durant.

I mean, it's Kevin Durant. And then stuff, I mean, yeah, it would be good to see those guys with the young guys going into the 2020 Olympics is here in L.A. I mean, why not just right out to the end with that? I mean, it's nothing to voice. You know, yeah, that voice. The voice of being there, man, he'll be in this fifth, he hasn't seen it all. So he'll be in his fifth Olympics, man, and be able to guide the young guys,

maybe a couple guys that, it's going to be a couple guys that's never played on the Olympic team. So you never know. The moment might be too big. It's kind of like a bird. It's got you that you can rely on. Yeah. It reminds me like a bird and magic type thing with Stefan,

you know, just riding out with the, young guys going through their last Olympics. Bad back, Larry. Bad back, Larry. I got a gold ring, baby. I mean, got a gold medal. Got to hang out. Hey, y'all got it.

Magic. I was going to do his thing as well. Shit, I can average five and a half. Shit, y'all got. For sure. Hell yeah. Just to be a part? Let's move on to you, Cemetery.

Lary. Are you rolling with KD playing with Team USA in the 2028 Olympics? Two thumbs up. For Kevin Durant. That's all I got to say about that. Last but not least, Gilbert J. Arena. The namesake of Gilson Arena presented by a hundred-old.

You wrong with KD? Playing with that Olympus squad. I think you had said previously that he was going to try to play. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm excited that he's going to play in 2028. We're going to have a hell of a team, is all I'm saying. What?

I'm not down. How old was LeBron James? What he... He was two years ago? Three nine. It was 39? Yeah. 30 what?

38, 39, you were one? 39. 39? He was 39? 139? Yes. Why, why we didn't hear that Magic Johnson

retired Larry Bird bullshit when he was 39? So we're going to do it with Kevin Durant? Not at all. Okay. So Kevin Durant at 39 is going to be just like LeBron James was at 39 out to give him fucking buckets to the French. Okay? Yeah, but that'd be his last time playing the Olympics, though.

I don't know what time it is. That's what I'm saying. That's the last time he'll be in an Olympic. That'd be the last time he'd be in Olympic jersey. That's the only time we need them. Go. We do it. Him, Steph, we good.

And them young dogs, they're going to have. Yeah, they're going to be all right. He said, how many dogs Kevin Durant got got? said five, six? Is it six? Four. Four. Four.

Oh, so he's going for his fifth. He's going for his fifth. So that means a young man that's coming up that's in his problem. I've got to don't, don't get a shot a chance to go. Five, five gold medals, two NBA championships, a league MVP. Top ten on top. Two finals MVP? Hey, fucking, hey, that's a hell of a resume, Kevin, Kevin Durant.

Fuck, boy. Yes, absolutely. So yeah, go get your fifth, brother. Yeah, go get your fifth metal. Yeah, we'll get your fifth gold medal, man. So let's talk about the makeup of this 2028 team. Obviously, a lot left still to be decided over the course of the next two years. Who's going to emerge?

Who's going to potentially drop off of that team? Steph LeBron and KD with the top three scores, 2024 Olympics. Obviously, KD saying he wants to come back. Brian has already tapped out. Steph still on the fence. That squad had an average age of 30.1 years old, which was the oldest in team. team history and seven repeat players, which was also a record.

So seven guys came back to play on that team. There's 2028 Team USA squad could have between six to seven new players just depending on how things shake out. So in your guys expert opinions, who are the locks to make Team USA in 2020? And I also want to focus too on the big man side of things. They're saying, bam out of bio pretty much a lock, but it seems like we're going to be a little thin with our big man. Well, Anthony Edwards.

Well, Anthony Edwards is a lock. Devon Booker. Do you think D. Book for sure? I think he's a lot. Tyrese Maxie. Kaye Cuttingham. Kaye Cuttingham. Cooper Flagg.

I think those are locks. And if Jalen Brown or Jason Tatum wants to participate, wants to participate, I think there are locks if they want to participate. That's a big if. Spolts are taking over. Spolts are taking over for Steve Kerr. It doesn't matter.

It's still a big if. USA basketball, USA basketball. Somebody could have pulled Steve Kerrass to the side and asked what the hell are you doing, man? Like, hey, they didn't get one D&P, he gave him a couple. So it ain't like it was a one-off.

So, yeah, he got every right not to want to play. But if they wanted to, I think they're locks. And get luck with the bigs. So you guys mentioned Chet. You talk about BAM. You also got Jalen Dern, who's been emerging. That's a potential vibe option. What is his nationality?

What is Jalen Duren's nationality? I think he's an American, if I'm not a second. Got some of the young boys coming in the draft, maybe. He said if he is in that day, but you know, you never know. This dudes probably want to play for their home country. But if he's that, then you definitely need to take him in Chet. Because he brings something different to the table. Yeah, it was on one of the USA squad.

Yeah, he's like having tomorrow start tomorrow on the Olympic team. Like, you know what you're going to get, right? You know exactly where that ball going when he get it. So, yeah, I think he was very, very likely candidate. You know, no, he might be, he might play on the USA team, but he might be like Joel, you know what I'm saying, he might be of other end, got dual citizenship or something.

Born in Pennsylvania, but has a potential. Okay, cool. That don't mean just because he's born in Pennsylvania, Josiah don't mean his daddy, he wasn't born somewhere else. I'm aware. I'm fully aware. But you got time between.

who could potentially play for Jamaica, North Power. You got guys out there who could pick a side, basically, if they want to. Shot, I see you looking. You gave me two throws up before. No, I was just ready to address some other shit that's going on on the internet. That's all. Oh, let's get there. Well, let's address away.

Let me get mine out the way. Go ahead. Cade, Ant Man, Tatum, Cooper Flagg, Chet, Pallowenchero. Loser boys are going to be on that team. AJ or DP, those have been the youth, USA, go-getters from the last, like, like a five years. Do they're going to have enough in in two years to, do you think they're going to have enough in two years, Gil, under their belt?

Huh? You think they're going to have enough in two years, like, under their belt, to go out and play on their stage? Now, but they're USA Golden Boys. So. I'm thinking about the other guys that you named. I'm just thinking about the other guys. All the guys that you named is Locke.

Oh, Locke's Cade and Tatum, Chet, Cooper Flagg, KD. Tyrese, Maxie. Like, you got it, though. It depends on if Curry. Devin Booker Curry, Durant. So that's what I'm saying. Young guys, they're going to pick Steph before they pick one of the young guys. That's what I'm saying.

And that's what I said when it comes. of them, you got, you got five plus six, you have Ben Chiro, and then depending on, Bruce Brunson or Maxie. You need more than one being, though. Golden Boy, DP, you know, from Kansas, you know. You got to remember most of the guys that funneled through USA basketball as youth, they need that have a pipeline.

So I'm thinking about, you know, the 15, 16, 17, and 19 youth team. You know, I think you're going to be on there, like LeBron, when LeBron D. Wade and him was on there, just some young boys that's sitting there getting experienced. Two or the three are going to be on there. Yeah, you need some guys with some two on. Right. You need some hype, brother.

You need some hype. Cooper Flagg, Paulo Ben Chiro. He don't play big. Allo don't play big. I ain't saying booze are going to make it. I'm not picking all of them young. dudes. I need some dudes that's

going to go play. No. That shit cool. That's your cool. And the mother dudes is you got motherfucking 7-2-7-2-7 morning out there, bitch, playing the 2, the 3-4-5 and 611

playing the 2. When you're playing France, like, you got to get some rebounding out there. That's all I'm saying. You got to get some size. We can score with the best of them. Listen, we can score with the best of them. You need some size.

That's all I'm saying. But that's enough. Paul is 16, right? I mean. I know. But he, he, don't play big, though. But I'm just saying,

but everybody I named this, 10 and above. But they don't play big. That's all I'm saying. They don't play down low when that shit matter. They don't play big. Okay. I'm just a lot.

Good, great basketball players, yes. I'll give you, everybody you name, yes. I'm just thinking the size of the rest of the world on these teams, is all I'm saying. That's all. And you need some boo, like when Booza played,

big daddy played, yeah, you knew, he, He was in the mix. You knew what he was going. That's all. Like, you need somebody like that. That's why I think Duren is more likely a candidate.

That's all. But cool. But that's all. Yeah. All right. Let's get to it. Yeah. This will be the last segment of the show.

Shot. I mean, I've seen the chat buzzing. I've seen some clips circulating around social media. Obviously, some things you want to address. The floor is yours, sir. I just got a question to y'all first. I mean, I can predict. addictive answers, but just as for my own

collective memory bank. For knowing me, for as long as y'all know me, do I look like a type of nigger that would duck smoke or quit? Yeah. Well. That's one answer. Can you? No, I don't see that in you.

Like, I don't. Brandon? I don't. No. I don't see it. My person. Okay, so we got one nigga on the whole. We got one nigga that don't bring.

We got one nigga that don't respect. We got one nigga that don't respect me. We got one nigga that don't respect me. So that's, so now the chat can hear that. So with that being said, anybody out there to think that I would duck or quit with any nigga in front of me for any reason got me fucked up.

One, it was cute the first time when niggas tried to line me up and bring a nigga on the show. and help him get his views up for all that nigger to just lead a shit right after I'll go to the bathroom and nobody knows I tried to line it up with him

and he ducked and then karma caught up with him for what you. You can't lie on God and then think nothing don't happen to you. You know what I'm saying? So the niggas just got out of jail for that, I guess.

So you got these other niggas that don't like me. I guess when niggas don't like you, you expect them to say anything good about you? Ligger, you got some shit? If you done some shit to some niggas, you think they go sit around together and kumbai y'all talking good about you, especially when you rising.

Niggas out here, they out here. We're moving. I'm out here 85% in the chat. Niggas don't like that. But when I start getting group chats and niggas sending me screenshot what niggas is saying, I see y'all niggas all together. Y'all want to attack the God. All right, cool.

But I've been nice for a long time. I've been trying to be corporate and professional on this platform, man. I don't never go at nobody personal. But when niggas start doing what they doing, I got to set the record straight, bro. Like, D-Will, I used to belt to ass that boy, bro. It's my son. He knows it.

Raymond Felton, come on. What are we talking about? We giving these niggas power, right? Charlieville and the waiver. Niggins said I was sick in a workout. I think I got sick right after I Tomahawk dunked on his ass and I threw up. I almost threw up on it after. I yelled so loud.

I almost threw up on him. They told me to come back the next day. I used to do race so bad in practice that it's just like it still lingered 20 years later. Niggas still talking about shit 20 years later. Why you didn't say this shit when it happened? Because you're lying. So a nigg is lying on my name just to get clicks on out of mud. y'all niggas ain't gonna reach that cobi 81 numbers without me back on that show my nigga y'all gotta start figuring out what the algorithm is put my name in the chat oh joe come on man say my name you know ken and king gonna knock your face off ken don't even play like that so yeah it's cool to try to box a six nine nigga but

you come on man what we doing i know don't none of these niggas like me so i don't be looking for no friends And when niggas don't respect you, you ain't going to be no friends. But I'm unfuck-wittable. You niggas not fucking with me. And I ain't never ducking shit. So if a nigga want to step up and see me outside, here's the time, too.

We can go to the court, we can get in the ring, we can do whatever. That goes for Pat, Darren, D, Rai, Theo, the sick nigga. You got a sick nigga, a fat nigga and an ugly nigga. All on one pie. Who? So if you ain't got no receipts.

My nigga, it's all, it's going to be mutual. I don't got no respect either. So now that we know what it is, you know, niggas think that I would quit, then you obviously know I don't fuck with you. Niggins that, no, I ain't on that business. Niggins know where I'm from. We don't get down like that.

So it is what it is. I think that last one was towards me, but you asked me a question. And I said yes. any reason I said yes is one it's already obvious Gil no nigga you asked me a question

we had it wasn't a match you didn't put that in the chat bro I asked them if it's obvious I don't get fuck what they're talking about we just going to get to the fact the fact was on the rematch you didn't want to do it so to me that's quick the second one was you said in video games if you win the first

you just made that shit up you know I can't believe you would just make that shit up. You just made that shit up, you win the first game. Brandon, you hear this nigga just make that shit up, Brandon? Did you not say that? Did you just hear this nigga make this shit up to try to make

himself look good? Chat, did he not wins the first of something? He's never playing the person no more and that's why he never wanted to shoot out again. Was that that, was that not? We shot again. Gilbert, I beat you 10.

I beat you 10-1, and then I beat you again. Was that not a thing? I beat you twice. Wait, hold on. You asked me question. Was that not a thing, Brandon? Hey, yo, that was on battle mode, right? That was on battle, where was it a thing?

I know what the fuck you're talking about? What was on battle mode? You did say, once I beat you, I'm not playing you no more. You did say that. And I played him again. Oh, you didn't. You played twice, bro. We stopped twice.

We shot twice. Brother. See, I was trolling you off. You wasn't trolling shit. You niggas didn't even invite me back to the battle mode because I was whooping niggas ass and tell the truth, bro. I disagree. Tell the truth, nigger.

I know you're in your field. Tell the truth, nigga. The reason I wasn't there is because I'm the king, nigger and I kick me his ass on everything from video games, two-on-two one-on-one shooting. You can't beat me in nothing. Tell the people the truth, nigga. Okay, cool.

That wasn't the-that-was-all-right. Ain't no quit. Hey, how a nigga can quit if a nigga ain't, invited. Okay, let's try. You asked me a question. Hey, Brad, if I'm not invited, how can I quit? You asked me a question. Hey, we're not going to invite shot back.

You asked me a question. Did you not? I mean, this ain't about you, my nigga, I've already addressed the people I'm addressing. Don't include yourself into this shit. I didn't care nothing about what you had going on over there. You asked me So this ain't got nothing to do with you unless you included yourself on the side of them.

You look like a quitter. because you quit two times and you said it out your mouth. All right, so you pushing the narrative. No, I'm not pushing the narrative. So you push about that narrative. This is a nigga supposed to be on my team that's saying I'm a quitter. And you brought the nigger on the shoulder to give him a chance to stay in my face. I brought him on the show.

Oh, yeah, that's your man. Or did you ask him? No, I didn't ask him. I didn't talk to him after. No, did you ask him? He told me. He told me. He told me.

Wait, no, did you ask him? No. He told me. Fuck all that. Now, now I'm serious. You didn't. You didn't. You didn't.

I was just trolling because you quit on us in video games and said if you won, you would never play again. That to me. Hey, Brandon. That's what I was there. Brandon, you was there? Brendan, did he say that out of his mouth in battle mode? Who was winning the championship four or five weeks in a row, bro?

He did say that. So what I was saying. It's all on film. It's all on film. Why shine? Not here. Why shine not here? Y'all go ahead.

Y'all go ahead. So it's all on film. Then when you're talking about about Pat Bed, bro, you had Pat Bet, you asked for Pat Bed full week. I ain't asked for shit. You did. I ain't asked for shit.

We get Steve on the line, too. We can ask, we have it in the chat. We can get Steve on the line too, bro. Oh, he's scared. He's scared. We can get, we can get the Pat Beth shirt. We can get, we can get, we can get Steve on. Is that one?

They called me the day before and told me to be on. They called me the day before. Are you cool with Pat coming on? I was like, why would niggas have Pat coming on? Well, I mean, I don't know, but they had a-all-all-all-all-all-all-all-all-all-all-all- I went and got the shirt made that day. Is this what y'all, Rick? Is this what y'all remember?

I wasn't on a-gap. Pat-bad didn't cancel for fucking, oh, no. Pat-bad didn't cancel for a week. It's all good, man. I don't know. Let's move on, man. Yeah, let's move on. It's over.

I'm not dressed. I had this shirt. I addressed my shit. That's above my payout. I addressed that shit. No problem. But don't try to bring out the bullshit to us. It's cool.

Ain't no us, nigga. Kenyon and Brandon, respect. You can't put Pat Ba' for fucking two weeks. Every time we say- Kenyon and Brandon, Kenyon and Brandon don't believe I'm acquit.

Kenyon and Brandon don't believe I'm acquit. He don't, they don't believe I'm acquitted. You and your question. Joe, you believe I'm acquitted. Between y'all. Hey, Joe, do you believe I would, Joe, do you believe I would quit?

I do not believe it. You do not believe I quit. All right, cool. That's three. I think Nick feels the same way. It's all good. Damn, dog. Stop trying to play us like that.

It's all good, man. You had this shirt made for two fucking weeks. No, I didn't. Drag it that nigga. Oh, he's. My turnaround time. My turnaround time is two hours. My turnaround time is, you can't win this deal.

You already. Because of that. You sold your hand, man. God damn. You showed your hand, bro. What the fucking change the fucking schedule for two weeks because of that shit? I change the-up. Are we talking about the first pat-bad for the season finale?

How I change any schedule when niggas get, you got, y'all got topics and shit when I'm not even there. How I'm changing the schedule. I'm not even knowing when y'all talk about shit that I'm supposed to be talking about. It's not even my show. So how do I have power over the schedule? Are you going to answer? Hmm. I'm going to know, are you talking about the first

Pat Bev appearance or the second one? The first one. Oh, he came back twice, didn't it? Oh, he came back a second time. And I wasn't invited on the second time either. I had to show up. Wait, didn't you make a special appearance on the first one? I had to show.

I wasn't invited that show. I had to show up. The first one? I said it was a bad look if he don't come back. I was like, This nigga, on work today? And I said, oh, y'all fucked up. I was not having that man work.

On the first one. The first one. Oh. Yeah. You showed up on the second one with the, with the whole theatrics of it. Oh, shit. God damn, you had the whole fucking production set the shit off the- Hey, Kenyon.

Hey, Kenyon, you remember you text me, Kay? Remember you text me, Kay? Yeah. You remember you text me? Yeah. Yeah. I got the same text when I got from Steve. You text me.

I said, don't worry. I'm on my way, bro. They just told me what was going on. on. Hey, Paulo, make sure I get, make sure I get the smoke and turn the lights out when I show up. These niggins ain't even going to know what's up. Yeah, okay. Yeah, it was a whole. So the first one, you don't remember. It was a problem.

Good, man. Why you keep diving? It was a problem going on in the arena. It was a problem going on in the arena, right? At the end, I'm a quitter. People couldn't work with each other. I'm acquitter. Okay. And we already had to schedule. We scheduled Rashad. for Pat Bev on that last Thursday, but he flaked on it. Who flaked on it?

Who flayed? On the Thursday. I said, who flaked? Pat Bev. Oh, Pat, Bill. You ain't called him a quitter. Pat Bev. Pat Bev quit.

He didn't say, he didn't say, he didn't. Oh, he didn't. Out of his mouth. Okay. That was a video game conversation you had with us. Am I lying, Brandon? Can you please? That's what you said to put up, right?

Brandon, save him. Brandon, can you please? Go ahead. Y'all go ahead. Can you please? So it was supposed to be a Thursday. Then you started talking shit all week or that, that whole weekend. And then our schedule we had for the week.

You remember, Miko? She was falling on the day fucking Pat Bev confirmed. So we had to cancel her, tell her, hey, Boof. Rashad wants to be on that. And that's how that episode came. Hey, Brandon, why was you on that episode, Brandon? I was on the episode because it was our last episode

you was on that episode because he mentioned both of our names, nigga so both for you all got it was the last show of the year though yeah that was the last show

and he mentioned both of our names so we don't remember us having a conversation like yo what's up with this nigga Pat Beb why he on this shit

okay yep and I asked Oh shit they're about to bring them on the show oh we got some shit to address right and I asked Pat Bev

I said what do I know? And he, but wait, I'm talking about before that. When I was at your career, we was smoking, we was talking about this situation. Okay. The day before. The day before. The day before, okay.

See, the day before, but the motherfucker just said he just found out that that day. No, that was the second time I found out that day. The second time I found out the day of it. Yeah, Kenyon. You remember back then Brennan, Brennan, a shot had to be. be on one episode, you and Miko had to be the reason Miko wasn't on an episode, even though she was part of the show. Like, stop. Dude, well, listen, the problem you have with them, dog, that's your business. We don't give a fuck. But don't try to pretend we against you or what. Like,

be like, come on. I have my own. I'm not pretending about shit. I asked y'all all the questions. I asked y'all all the questions. I asked y'all the question. Y'all asked all y'all the question. y'all gave me the answer. That's all I said. And I gave you my answer because of what? I don't care what you gave me your answer because of what. I don't give a fuck about none of that. I'm dressing the public and my perception of what these niggas out here lying about.

So if you can't contribute to that, cool. I'm going to, hey, this ain't about I'm just that no. I'm that niggas no. I'm that niggas no. I'm taking the gloves, though. I'm taking the gloves. I'm just from me. And then some of people said,

and then you're like, are, am I at this? So, so, so, so, so,

so, so, so, so, so, I'm with, I think you should have been to the gloves off, like,

I know, but look, I'm bit, I think you should have been to the gloves off. Yeah, I know, I know, you know what we got going on,

nigga, I'm not the dumb, nigger. I'm not emotional. So, but, that's why I said at time, like,

like, I don't play well in the sandbox, so I'm glad, like, Yeah, you'm saying? Because you, you have taken a higher road of all of this than I would have. So I commend you in that regard. I would have been to the fucking gloves off. Like, so, yeah.

It's just, it's boring. It's boring at this point. Niggas taking shots. Niggas telling lies. I'm cool on all that. Man, I'm going to start with the jokes. And when I start with the jokes, it's going to get personal. A niggas going to feel some type of way.

So are they getting personal? So, wait, hold on. I don't know. So, are they getting impersonal with you? outside of or is this just hoop talk? Is this just just hoop talk or this is more than just hoop talk? Ain't no hoop talk when you're lying and the reason you lie is because you hate me

because you don't want me to tell the people why. I don't want to get into all that he say, she's shit about why a nigga feel a certain type way about me. I would. I don't do that shit. Man. I'm about to say, I'm about to clear my.

I'm going to clear my shit. Like, hell, you ain't for the decision. I don't need to clear it. If a nigger believe that I'm a quitter. You don't fuck with me. If a nigga, I'm a quitter, I hope you're going to fuck with me. You slinging mud, that's sling mud. That's my thing.

If we're going to talk to, let's talk to you. Yeah, but you talk about that. Ain't none of them niggas can fuck with me in hoop then. Let's just say that. Now, damn, one of these niggas that ever spoke my name ain't never could fuck with me. No, but I'm a firm believing you can't dictate my response neither. So that's my thing. You say something to me, you can't dictate my response to my reply.

So you talk a hoop, you say one thing. and I invite you to the square. That's just what it is. So I get it, bro. Hey, I don't fault you one minute for speaking up, so. I think it should have been time. No.

On that note. I don't care about that. The fact that this nigga is trying to make it personal with me, even though he said that shit on video game. Nobody may sit personal with you. We're trying to pretend that what I'm saying has to do with that shit.

That's my fucking. You are the only nigga on there that said that you thought I was quit. I know you talk about you. You talk about the video. You talk about it. You're talking about him. Brandon,

but you didn't even agree with him. I mean, you don't fuck with me. I agree. Because you know what happened. I agree. You know why I wasn't invited back to the fucking back. You know ain't nobody fucking quit when you niggas was filming without telling me to

all of a sudden, come on, man. Stop that shit. Bring him. Let me put that. Hold on. Stop that shit. That's a conversation that we was having in video games. Okay.

So let me, it's not. Let me, let me, let me do this. Let me do this. Put on, because he's trying to,

he's trying to, he's going to bullshit. Brandon, let me just, explain what you heard, Brandon. Okay, Brandon,

explain what you heard. I heard that. And I'm, and I'm, and I'm, once I beat you, I'm not playing you no more. Okay, cool.

That, this is right. This is right. That's, That was all I'm going. And then it had to do something with the three-point competition. Right? That was two times.

Okay. Yeah, there was two times. So that was it. But that has nothing to do with what they talked about. He just asked me, Kenian, and I was sure, because of those. Yeah, so, though, well, let me tell. Well, Gil, let me tell you, I'm going to be the one to tell you, if don't nobody else tell you at time, nigga, it was terrible fucking timing.

Like, he didn't want to hear that shit right now. this shit he got going on way deeper than that video game shit so right now I'm gonna be the one to tell you he didn't want to hear that shit like but there's a lot of news that but no but you interjecting some video game shit with some other niggas playing with this nigga names I would take offense to that shit too

so terrible fucking timing nigga terrible I hear you you got that the video game shit saying he quit this that the third yeah okay cool that was fun in games that were niggas I were playing with this man name so I would take offense and I would group you into that shit as well

nigga you are like fucking trying to troll me right now like trolling like y'all niggins as they what they call it right now you niggins are rage bait like that shit don't work well in all in all incidents man yeah but he ain't been doing this since even with my problem with everything that I've got

and everything with Nicky and all of us go but it's a further point with certain shit though like the niggins I playing with this man named. He didn't hurt and heard and heard. He addressed one nigga with it, right? He addressed the pet-b-b-ha-f shit. Boom.

And then niggas piggyback a year later on the same topic. Like, yeah, I'm going to say something. I'm just not going to keep that you niggas. Oh, facts. True or not. Listen, true or not, right?

Whether he was sick, whether he wasn't, whether he got hurt, whether he did, whether he did, right? The fact that they are mentioned in his name is enough. to have something to say and not to want to put up with no jokes and no bullshit with it.

That's all. So, yeah, like, we are in this thing together and we've been fucking with one another, trolling one another. These two niggas have been going at it for time again, time out, but we never thought that it would get personal. You know what I'm saying? Because we all in this shit together.

We see niggas every day. We're on the couch together every fucking day. We don't think it's going to go that far. But this other shit ain't got nothing to do what we're doing on the couch and with us. It's what I gather from it. I'm saying? I played golf for the nigga yesterday.

So I get his frustration with it. Like, niggas I had playing with it. So who? You wake up and niggas on the East Coast and mention your name three, four times before you can fucking brush your teeth. I get it. I'm saying? But ain't that what we signed up for?

But ain't that what we signed up for? No, no, not that. No, no, no. I'm saying the fact that who we are and how we talk about people you don't think that that shit is going to come back to us at all so so now that when somebody says- But he's saying niggas I had lying though

But he's saying I can only go on He's here He's saying that they line on his name Right I think I think a lot of me reliant We didn't sign up for niggas lying on our name We ain't sign up to be Doing this for niggas to be

lying on my name So there's shit that's being said That don't add up And I know the facts I am going to address it 100% of the time So So when I got in trouble with my shit and I was being trolled, little comments there,

my shit was serious. Yeah. I didn't get personal. I laughed and trolled too. But that's you, Gil? Yeah, I'm going to say, yeah, Gil. Because you was a troller. I'm, like, that's you, Gil.

Like, you don't take, but, Gil, in your words, you don't take much serious. You don't take much serious, right? So you were able to make, light of people calling you a jailbird or criminal it is, a dad, a woo, boo, who. But I'm saying? So you, you're able to make light of that. Some people aren't. Some people not.

Everybody ain't built that way. Like, I'm just, I know I'm, I tell you all the time on the couch. I ain't in the turning cheeks. It's all you're going to do is slap me another one. That's just everybody. It's going too far, man. This shit going to. That's all. What are you supposed to go this deep, man?

It's supposed to be out of here by now. We cool. I addressed what I was going to address, like I said, man. I ain't no ducker, ain't no quitter, and niggas want to find out. Come see me, man, that's it. And how about this? We just stop bringing that person. If you want to talk personal and shit, do that shit on your own page.

How about that? So we don't have to worry about it, you know, because if we can't, if we can't comment and troll, then what the fuck are we doing anyway, right? You can't, Gil. You're fucking, you're contributing. You contribute. You contribute. You contribute.

You contribute. I said you can't just have this bad time. I'm quitting. Gil has removed himself from the arena. I was going to say let's end the show with a positive note. So now they can't upload the thing because this asshole then left. Like, dude.

They still got 99% came, but I want to end the show. Everybody says something positive. He's back. Everybody says something positive about each other before we leave. Hey. I back out just bullshit. On a more positive note, hey. A, B.

Yeah. Hey, Brandon. Yeah. Shaw was part of their losing twosome yesterday when I got J.C. glove, just FY. Sean? That's okay. Hey, bring it to my glove. Hey.

You know what? Hey, Kenyon. Hey, Kenyon. Hey, Kenyon. Hey, Kenyon, did I quit? Yeah, just fight him. No. Did I quit?

No. You know what? Hey. I play the old shit, right? Hey, hey, we want to fight, y'all. Us, us, us, us, us, us, us, against you. You four. Who?

Which, which who? As you know, I'm a man of peace. I'm a man of peace. I'm a man of peace. Them three nickers are dead. You guys can't have about two and a half. Show battle. Prob project managed.

I'm a project manage. But I appreciate you. Saying your piece, obviously. Like I said, I saw the clips. I see a lot of stuff on the internet. I don't tend to care of my business, but I'm glad you addressed what you had to address. Yeah.

And then what people that are, thinking in another note. I ain't got no problem with Chad. They was talking about something me and him made a friendly wager about some cigars. And they mentioned my name and Rashad name on their nightcap thing and they wanted me to come

on this show and this, that, and the third. But like I told, I laugh and joke told Chad, you five, ten, I'll jab your face off. So you don't want no action with me. I'm too tall. I'm six nine, bro. I'm six nine. What if? What if? What if?

What if? Somebody come with some money for celebrity boxing a match, I put the smoke down and getting some real motherfucking shape and jab his goddamn face off. Well, just so happens, we know a company that has the ways it means. Higher lowers.

Hey, there's a number. Hey, there's a number I thought to put me, hey, I get actors, but trust me. Trust me. You're going on the evening, man. Hey, I'm just saying, now, we made a weird friendly rages over some cigars, but he told me

that he was going to whip my ass if I didn't pay him, And I said, I ain't paying, now what? So you can't beat me. So that's the thing that, you can't beat me. Wait, can we all stay in unison so we can wrap up the show? Thank you. We got to wait. Everybody gets your cameras fixed.

We got to wait for the video up a love. But appreciate everybody in the chat. Appreciate everybody. I will jab has got them face off, though, but I ain't got any issues. Well, trust me. Jab has got them face off. Once again, we are all friends again, ladies gentlemen. Appreciate everybody in the chat.

I should cordial to the female, you got this jab and it is stick, boy. Hey, you guys feel faces right there. Appreciate everybody in the chat. Appreciate everybody pulling up virtually. This has been another episode of Gilles Virtual Arena presented by Underdog. Whoa, whoa!

We will see y'all tomorrow. Less drama. Hopefully.