Gil's Arena - Gilbert Arenas Predicts BIG MOVES For NBA Stars

Episode Date: June 14, 2023

Gilbert Arenas Predicts BIG OFFSEASON MOVES For NBA Stars in this episode of Gil's Arena!! After Doc Rivers comments on the downfall of the Philadelphia 76ers, James Harden seems to have one foot out the door while other superstars like Bradley Beal and Damian Lillard seemed primed for a trade ahead of the NBA Draft. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GILSARENA and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Gil’s Arena premieres every Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We got Kenya Martin, Nuggets legend. Can you know where this jersey came from? Hey, listen, man. I haven't seen you guys since, man. Everybody been good, man? Nothing good. You know? You been eyeing on me?

All things considered. No Jimmy Buckets memorabilia to display today? No coffee-sipping Jimmy Butler shirts and shit? Okay. We still confident. And what? Next win, win. And Kofi won the war. He said, we still confident, just not coughing.

Okay, yeah. Turned into soda. Yeah, I just, yeah, that was just a little, I'm saying, a little something that I had, you know what I'm saying, a little gift from, you know what I'm saying, from the folks alone. Out of respect for this Nuggets championship, we will let it ride.

Yeah, you know what I'm saying, got you. Before we start the show, I heard a rumor that's circulating that some people on this couch went go-karting recently. How was that? That was fun? You said some people or everybody but you? Well, you can exclude me because I can't fit.

So we just figured you were- You know I like to go-kart. That's one of my favorite pastimes. It's all good. It's a black people rule. If you get invited, you can't invite somebody else. I was like that. Niggas out here go-karting.

Hey, that's a good rule. That's a good rule. That's a good one. We're all going to be there. OK. So I was with some people the other day. We was eating brunch on Sunday. They were talking about going go-karting.

I said, yo, y'all over there having little dude conversations. Like y'all ain't including me in that talk. Like let's do something that I like, some like, yeah, like go bowling or something. Like, yeah, like something we ain't gotta, ain't no height restrictions. Not at all.

I can barely fit in a regular sports car. You gonna. Niggas just out here go-karting, I guess. Some go-karters. Yeah, I think that's the thing now. Just some go-karters out here. No, I'm just fucking with you. But here's what we got cooking today.

Nuggets are champs, but can they repeat? I think some people on this couch may feel a certain way about that. Others may not. We will find out. Bradley Beal could be on the move this summer. What team would be the best fit for his services? And did Doc Rivers throw James Harden under the bus with some recent comments? But before we get into that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy.

You haven't done so already, go ahead, download the app, use promo code GILSARENA. They will match your first deposit up to $100. You could be successful like some people on this couch or you could just be learning, you know, get your go-kart on You know just practice you're done not ready for f1 just yet, but be ready for the real deal Who's making bread off that Rashad you making some bread off the the underdog fantasy people I am okay. I have okay, you know You know, not me. I'm probably in the lead. I'm probably in the lead. I can. Okay. You know. You know. Not me.

I'm probably in the lead. I'm probably in the lead. I can't even lie to you. Gil, lie. This is your show. Post the winnings only. Floyd Mayweather. Only the winner.

That's cool. My winnings be like $18. $62. Right? That's it. That's it. That's all I got for y'all. Nothing to talk about.

Yeah. I can't. I gotta fake it. Yeah. all I got for y'all. Nothing to talk about. Yeah, I can't. I gotta fake it. Yeah. Comment? Yeah. A comment from that side? I don't be winning at all. I'm straight. Five straight picks. No insurance.

No insurance. No insurance. We got a raw dog, always. But that's why, look, this was a learning period for us. The show's only been around for a couple months. We are learning the hustle. Underdog, we are coming to get that bread back from you guys. The goal is to bankrupt y'all by any means possible or die trying. So we're going to keep it going.

I'm going to a new sport. Tennis. Okay. Soccer. WNBA. You know about those to be putting money on and picking? Not the first two. I don't know nothing about it.

I just figured. Okay, I was about to say. WNBA and picking? Not the first two. I don't know nothing about it. I just figured it out. WNBA, anything that says like 25 points lower. Lower. Stop. Stop. Just stop. Stop. Gil getting us canceled already.

We've been five minutes into the show. Into the show. It depends who it is. Gil, you gotta go higher sometimes. Stop. Stewie had a rough night, but she gonna get her shit back. Yeah, I mean. She gonna get it back.

12 rebounds. 12 rebounds. 12 rebounds. 12 rebounds. It depends who it is. Girl, you got to go higher sometimes. Stop. Stewie had a rough night, but she going to get her shit back. Yeah. She going to get it back. 12 rebounds. No, you're not joking. Stop. Old girl from the storm be killing. She be having like 30 saddens.

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We can raise our bag, raise our profile, and then maybe we could do a group go-kart outing. So everybody could go go-kart, you know, underdog could sponsor it. Everybody get the invite. Y'all know I like go-karting. I didn't know that. You know, I had to hear y'all stories of go-karting. I'm like, damn, I was, I was available.

Gil had his ear pods on. He was dancing. Just laughing people. What's happening? Yeah. Must've been nice. Must've been nice. I was dancing, just laughing at people. What's happening? Yeah. It's organized. Must have been nice. Must have been nice.

But let's talk a little bit about Spencer Dinwiddie. So we had Dinwiddie on the show. He said he's one of the best one-on-one players in the game. He said it repeatedly. So he pulled up to China this week and got into some big trouble on the court. That's the homie. I just seen the homie. I just seen the homie two days ago. He told me he was going out to China.

I ain't know for that. Come on, Spence. Oh, man. That's my dog. A brief moment of silence. We're losing recipes. Y'all serious? We're losing recipes.

I mean, you know. We losing recipes. Y'all serious? We losing recipes. I mean, it happens. If it take you 32 dribbles, and you throw up a prayer, patch on your ass and tell you good shot. He throw up a prayer? Man, that took him 32 dribbles. He said boom, boom, boom, between the legs, step back, boom, boom, boom.

It was more dribbles than that, keep going. Let's count them, you wanna count them? Play it back. Nah, I don't wanna count them. Exactly, I'm not buying. Man, count them. Exactly. I'm not buying. It's free ball. 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 left, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17,

18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25. 25 dribbles. Come on, man. Jesus Christ. Oh! He was a great father to him. He was a great father to him. 25 dribbles. Come on, man. Let's stop it. Let's not act like that's something. Please, let's not get that stuff.

I guarantee you can't tell. It's just one clip. You can't tell that man that ain't something. Can't tell that man. That's one clip. And did we see Spencer on offense? No. That was it.

You got to play defense over there? This is what I'm 25 dribble stop it I'm not rolling if it was 20. I'm not rolling 15 If it takes you more than three passes, okay? Get over But you know in situations like that is basically until you stop me If you doing all that I got free round the file the shit out you don't be here Listen the first time you boom boom boom. I'm gonna cross your arm. I'm gonna run through you

After you throw it through his legs. That's just wrap up Get clothesline, but you don't even get to that you guess so're just supposed to get clotheslined, but you ain't, you know. We ain't even gonna get to that point. You a guest. So every- I'm gonna trip you while you're going by. Bloop. All that. So every real Hooper has been cooked at some point in their basketball career.

It happens to everyone, even NBA players. We all remember Frank Nitti, Denzel Valentine, the Drew League a few years ago. It was very detrimental to his career. It was a tough moment. It even happened to some of the greatest players of all time. Just ask MJ about the time John Rogers gave him that work. Don't be mad at me. I'm just too good for you guys.

What do y'all think I had this camp just so y'all can beat me? He talking crazy too. He talking crazy too at the beginning. Hey! Left. Hey! Yeah. Good job, John! He's. To the old. Oh, he got his cap in the hallway.

Just about ready to kick. Oh, I heard you again. He made Mike mad. Oh, he's mad. He's mad. He's mad. He's mad. He's mad.

He's mad. He's mad. He's mad. He's mad. He's mad. He's mad. He's mad. He's mad.

He's mad. He's mad. He's mad. He's mad. He's mad. He's mad. He's mad. Oh, I heard you again. He made Mike mad. And he got glasses on, my God. And he got a bald spot. All right. Pass up.

No. No. No. Oh no! Oh no! I hate the right-finger. I hate the right-finger. Three-two. Yeah. The Jordan, oh no, at the end of that. Three-two. Oh no! So he's telling that story.

Listen, that's a new play. His grandkids' grandkids. Absolutely. Don't know this story. Absolutely. Mike can't hold me. So, first question for y'all. Is facing an amateur a...

First of all, first of all, I'm going to say this right now. Mike get his ass cooked. I'm sorry. Like, you know, I have more respectful, like, the one on one skill level. And I'm going to say right now, ain't no motherfucking way. So let me ask you this actually he give me the ball first He's never getting back. Well, the match is

Do you actually think that man was playing him for it I don't care, but when he scored the first you got it. You got a whole generation of people looking 110 percent effort I might know Mike was giving him NBA Fin finals level defense. No, no, he wasn't. I don't give a shit what none of that is, but he, look. He scored. 3-2. 3-2. That was no joke. Mike with the left, Mike trying to go up.

No way. No way. I've been getting this off on everybody. You ain't getting this one. Exactly. Goggles on and everything. Prescriptions on and everything. Now you get scored. This is every day at 1240. You ain't getting this one. Exactly. I had to be this on the time. Prescriptions on and everything.

Hey, this is every day at 1240. They getting this work at lunch. They picked me first. They picked me first when we come out there. I'm the first round pick out there, nigga. Would MJ consider that a failure or a step to success? Oh, man. That's, oh boy.

Because he was getting a bag. He charged all them dudes at least 15 racks to be there. Man, listen. 15 racks? I probably would have lost two. Somebody got to win. It was master marketing. Get them to come to the camp next year. But question for you Gil, is facing an amateur a lose-lose proposition if you're an NBA player?

No, no, no. It's a lose if you lose. It's a lose if you're an NBA player? No, no, no, it's a lose if you lose. It's a lose if you lose. If you just beat on them, you just, hey. That's what you're supposed to do. You're supposed to do that. That's what I'm saying, it's not, that's what you're supposed to do.

Yes, no, no, then you do it. So it's not a lose-lose. Do what you're supposed to do. You just do what you're supposed to do. And not play one of them. I think it's a lose-lose. Yeah. Because at the end of the day, I mean,

it's like, if you go out there and beat them, I mean, that's what you're supposed to do. If you lose, it's like, oh shit, he finally, somebody got me. So you kind of like, it's like this amateur that's beating you, but it's still, at the end of the day, you're just putting yourself in a lose-lose situation. It's either you're going to get embarrassed or you're just going to embarrass them, and then they're going to be like, well, you're supposed to. Every time MJ sees that dude, he goes, oh, yeah, I bust Mike's ass.

No, that guy should be getting Jordans for the rest of his life for free. The streets. Team Jordans are one through one through what? One through 17. We stopped. Yeah. One through 13. I think that's it. After that, it's like, ah, so it brings me to my next question. What is the worst cooking that you got as a player? Oh, yeah. The video you don't want people to look at. Barry Farms is, this is kind of embarrassing, but he had one arm.

He had one arm. And I looked at him like a one-armed person. And he hit a three. And I'm like, come on. Came down, hit another three. You know, the crowd getting hyped already. I'm like, all right, all right, this is what we doing? So I've already put, I'm about to smack the shit out

this next time he came, hit me with the nub hezi. He flew and I flew. He hit the shot, everybody going crazy, everybody jumping. Dun-nuh-nuh, dun-nuh-nuh. Welcome to the big show. Yep. Welcome to the big show. I guarantee he ain't scoring another bucket.

I sat right on that right arm. I don't give a shit what kind of spin you gonna do. You can spin around in circles like a top top idol. You ain't gonna top top. No. Like a top top. You ain't gonna, no. Like a top top. No, Hesi, look, I don't give a fuck where you going. You ain't doing that no more.

You got nine points on me, bro. Check my strong game. Check my strong game. Check my strong game. Nah, look. I'm with you, bro. Come on, bro. He hit me with the boom, and I jumped, too.

Like, I didn't know. I didn't know he had the hesi with him too. Aw man, I'm so embarrassed bro. Oh I gave him the speed limit. He got the speed limit. I gave him more, the speed limit was 65, he got all 65. What about in the league?

Bray don't get no more embarrassing than a one arm dude hesiting the shit out of you. Not at all. Brandon how about yourself? Mwah! See? He dropped to the mwah! Ah, dropped on him with one arm, with the dub.

Me, I would have to go back to like, The fugitive. He dropped on him with the dub. That's why I said it was embarrassing, man. Shit, I thought it was embarrassing. But thank you for sharing. Boy, you lucky this ain't the airing of social media, boy. Listen, Jack, boy, you would have been all over the place, boy.

Rewind. Rewind that. Rewind that. Come on, you don't think of Hezzy, what? Like, I'm not going for no Hezzy. You ain't got to be. You went for it, though. Well, it's funny you say that, because we actually

got the video. No, I'm just fucking off. Oh, man. Oh, my God. I jumped off the screen and everything. I tried to kill it. Oh, man. That's funny.

Brant, how about yourself? What's the worst cooking that you got as a player? I think my ABCD camp against the New York guards. Corey Fisher came down in the All-Star game on the sideline, hit me with one of those. I slipped and fell. I think Jay-Z and them was there. I slipped like slipped and fell then he dropped it off as a dime and you know you know New York you know when they that crowd you know you're hearing it it was just like I was just embarrassed did you look at Jay Z after that like how did

you feel now you know one of them when you do this after like man I was like I was looking like man come on it's my it's my shoe of them. Rashad, how about yourself? I want to confirm the stats on this though. This nigga's team, JR and Melo went crazy. I can't remember if it was both of them that went crazy in the same game. JR hit like 12 threes. Double record. And we was playing like a zone in these niggas and bam, after. But I think Melo was going

crazy too like he had like 45 like before it was like a circus out there like that's a tough never got flamed quite like that that was a flame and you feel comfortable sharing with the group. Oh yeah, I ain't talking shit. Yeah, go ahead, who dunked on you? No, everybody dunked on me. But I guarantee I didn't dunk on more people than I done dunked on. I ain't never been dunked on hard. Like no, like embarrassing type shit for one. But we had a home and home with Orlando, with Matt.

He scored 74 in two days. Who? Traceace McGregor. At home and home. Yeah, like 43 and then like, it was like, I was like, yo. Yeah. Man, y'all, those are star players. But I'm just, these are, but I ain't never, I ain't never played for fun, bro. No, yeah, I see.

No, oh. Yeah, I ain't never going out there with the, No, yeah, I see. No, oh. Yeah, I ain't never going out there with the list of four. I'm not playing in certain things. I played in the rucka one time. Yeah, you played too hard. I played in the rucka one time. I had like 35. I'm dunking everything.

I don't do that going out there, me and you, finna play one on one for the... You're going to lose every time, bro. Not for free. Listen, you're going to lose every time, bro. Not for free. Listen, you gonna lose every time. But that's Garci. I'm gonna play you hard. I'm not finna go out there for fun. I just not what I did.

So these are like, nah, Matt got off in two days. Like it was like, this boy on one. Carlos Arroyo. This is before the US found out. I found out. I found out game one of my NBA career. Game one. We're in Toronto.

You know how like, I'm pretty sure we was gonna ask because we all got in the game. So I got in the game. Carlos got in the game. And I don't know what happened till this day. I refuse to look at the footage Right. All I know is he did a fake and I turn And he turned and did something happen I did like a 360 360 and all of her was And all I knew is just take the ball out everyone's laughing the bench laughing I got put on IR like 17 straight games after that it was supposed to be back then is like five games on right IR

Not not for y'all right IR was like five games and then it put somebody else five games And okay, it was I was I was acting the first five after that game. I was the active That's how bad that one play was and yeah, I'd never seen the floor for about a good month One and a half. Yeah, I refuse you. I ain't like that motherfucker since I Don't want to go to Puerto Rico because of him Was a fake somewhere not Then turn around and came back like, where'd it go? I don't know if he, listen, I don't know if he scored

the bucket or passed the bucket. I would not look at that game. That's how bad it was. He beat, this was the first game of my career, man. And it got me benched. Damn. It got me benched, it got me benched. Soup.

Hey, we gonna put you on IR. Well, I got four more games. Nah, we gonna sit you out. Nah, nah, you ain't ready for this big league. So we talked about y'all getting cooked, but who was a player you enjoyed cooking? Like who'd you look forward to? Like, oh, he's getting this work.

Man, Larry Hughes. Teammate. It was my teammate, so I had to play against him in practice every day. He was a great defensive player. I remember when he went to Cleveland and I told him, yeah,

I got a new bag. I got a new bag. I'm about to use it all against you in this playoff series. I had 34. I had 34 that series. Brandon, who did you enjoy cooking? Oh, man. Any L.A. guards that come up to use L.A. in the summertime.

Didn't matter who it was? Yeah, anybody that stepped in at Rico's thing, that's from L.A., that's a hooper, I was cooking. So I don't care who you are. Were you talking to him while you were doing it no it was just personal like I just felt like that was personal more to me the tours tours like like that summertime I took really well every time I played I felt like but the summertime and Rico's cuz it was like no cameras back then this one it was no cameras like for all the cameras came like you would like bust niggas ass. So like some of the top names that you made

too. Yeah for sure. And Rico had it when you was there? Huh? Rico had it? Yeah this was just used in LA. Yeah this was like. I was about to speak to him.

Rico was there then? Yeah Rico didn't have a spot. Rico didn't take it. Yeah Rico took it over I think. That was when I was gone. Nah he didn't have it. But I remember going up there. It was it. But I remember going up there. It was transitional. But I remember going up there.

When I was going. But I remember Derrick Martin. Derrick Martin. Yeah, D-Martin. Yeah, D-Martin was up there. Yeah, I remember I was in the 10th grade. I used to go up there with D-Wright and Will and all them. It was transitional with that because it was like Magic and this dude, Adam.

Yeah, Magic and Adam, yeah. So Adam McCungie, short wide, two buckets, first game, then you went to see him for the rest of it. Then we had like a transitional period then Rico came through it. Well, yeah, that was like the best the best run to me. So, who's a player that you enjoyed cooking? Um I wanna say the same thing that Brendan with the summer **** but that was that was an obvious thing every summer for me. So I'm going to pick a player, Kyle Korver.

Okay. Kyle Korver, I used to roast his ass all the time. I used to roast him every single time. Run that shit again, run that shit again, run that shit again, run it again. That's how I felt my rookie year, too. My rookie year. Like when it come to NBA, my rookie year I felt like it didn't matter. Cause I had such a good rookie year, like just coming out.

So I felt like everybody got the smoke. Can you talk about yourself? Like them early years, man. Like them fours that was in the East. Tuan Walker, like all them. Like I used to thrive playing against them. Like I like salivated. Yeah, I used to go at Tuan.

It was kind of, I don't know why, it was kind of personal. You just saw something. Yeah, I just saw somebody. I just saw something. Yeah, I just saw something. Just be personal right now. Yeah, I just saw somebody. I just saw something. I don't know what it was. I just, I don't know what it was. Yeah, just like the way something they do like, they take the shit out you. I think it was the shimmy. Yeah, yeah, just even taking the shit out you.

I think it was all the shimmy and I wouldn't go allow you to do that shit on me. Both ways. Like, I think, probably what it was, but I, yeah, I was, but yeah, I was... That little shit just... Did y'all have players like that? Same way you just didn't fuck with and you didn't know why? Oh yeah, hell yeah. It could just be like, why are you even over here? Why are you over here hanging out with us?

Why are you around us? You're not even that good. Or you've been around because you went to Westchester or you went to one of these schools in LA. It's like, you're not that good. Like, and I don't want to name names. I'm just saying. We who?

We who? Is that that regular dude that come in the game and then he just, he's like, he just already touching you. It's like, come on, bro. Who the fuck? Who is this? Yeah. Yeah.

When did you play? Y'all ain't tell him? Man, come on. Like, going mad hard. Like, he like to pick up 94. He like do everything to Kose. Like, one of them. Like, those guys

Like watch out bro like close now Gordon close now, we're the real NBA defensive player You ever play with the dude that slapped the floor where you're ever did that I took off Soon as they did that file soon as they did this right here fire boom and then always rub their hands every single time oh i couldn't wait that was like that was like that was like all right ready go and so i did it every time i don't give a what the play called i mean they're gonna tell that mean that when you seen that it was a that was a hack he had because he had yeah he's gonna hack he's gonna do that he's gonna find somebody they got lower yeah yeah, they did it and they got lower He's about to Quick look in and out. I'm going straight just drive. I'm just okay. That's hilarious

Be right play. Uh, we're gonna do the circle and mother just boom and then get lower Yeah, when you can who you you see that shit right away. What about the ones that know you in the gym but act like they don't know you but they know you? Yeah. Like they do little things like they hit you or they be like, what's up, man? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like watch out.

Chill, nigga. Chill. We not cool. We not taking it easy on you tonight, bro. Yeah, we not cool. Stop that work. About to get that work. All right, last question for y'all in this topic.

So who was a player that unexpectedly locked you up by who was a guy? I'm gonna cook this dude and he ended up getting the best of you Every time Marcus banks every time Every time Literally hated that man Like as soon as he got cuz that was one like, yeah man who was dude man? Who was the dude, right? Who was the dude that is?

All right man we gonna run it. Dude! Oh shit. Got you. Got you. Come down, all right. Take you serious. Turn around, he poke it.

Damn it. Larry just take this goddamn ball. You bring it up. Every, but it was every game. He literally stopped me from running offense. Every game. If it was four minutes, five minutes, I was working in the negative against that man. I couldn't wait until he gets subbed out.

I remember my rookie year, summer league, preseason, it was Johnny Flynn. Johnny Flynn used to really just irritate me cause he was like, you know, he was, he was like point guard picking up 94 feet, like everything like that. So he used to really irritate me and he used to really get the best of me early before the season started.

Once the season started, you know. You were ready for it. Yeah. Cause he had that college strength. Yeah, that college, you know, that college, yeah. He'd been lifting for three, four years, shitless. You wasn't ready for that young fella. Nah, nah, I really, nah, I wasn't. Cause I remember he went up for a layup. We was playing preseason, I had started, four years, shitless. You wasn't ready for that young fella. Nah, I wasn't.

Because I remember he went up for a layup. We was playing freezies. I had started. I was hyped to start. He had came down. He gave me one of them. I flew all into the thing. I was just like, okay, this is something.

I got to change my attitude or something. He woke me up. Oh, somebody like, no, Chuck Hayes, man. Like, I'm feeling to just move and do what I want to with him. Nope. Sitting on all that, nope. Nope. No, I'm just gonna shoot this jump hook from here.

He can't get to this. He can't get to it up there with all that other shit. He wasn't going for none of it. I'm like, man, Chuck liked that. You gonna share with the group, Rashad? Yeah. I'm going to go with Stack, Steven Jackson. Stack was fucking 6'8", nigga. Strong, long arms, nigga. Just fucking tough, tough.

It's tough. For sure. You had to put him in the mixer, you know what I'm saying, if he got the chance. He was tough. He was my toughest, for sure. Yeah, it just... Like, y'all... You thought you was going to be the toughest, but you're not. You're not.

You're not. You're not. You're not. You're not. You're not. You're not. You're not. You're not.

You're not. You're not. You're not. You're not. You're not. It's tough for sure. So you had to get put him in the mixer. I'm saying if you got the chance So he was tough. He was my toughest for sure Like you thought you were strong and you don't bully something like we like nah He had all them dogs behind him so he was just running around doing whatever right now was one man Oh Rondo you say Rondo one man for me It was him Marcus Bay Everybody else do everybody like that. I got this work. Oh, it's getting work. It was just something He was like he was fast and quick It's like he studied you it's like he was like, you know, like somebody who just built exactly to stop. I got to take off.

That's a lot of niggas worst nightmare. A lot of niggas say the same shit like Banks is really like like it was like seven minutes. I got three turnovers because it was three overs where he stole it. It wasn't like I threw it. He stole it like he got it. That's what he do. He got like I'm about to die. Smart shit.

I saw Lindsey Hunter take the ball from Jason Kidd. I thought it was the most impressive thing ever. Like Jay Kidd running Lindsey Hunter's like two, three. I was like, oh, that's him for him. That's him for him. That's him for him. He trying to lean. I'm like, oh, this man. Give me him for him. That's him for him.

He trying to lean. I'm like, oh, this man. Give me that. Yeah, I'm like, oh. Now, could nobody get that. Yeah, yeah, that J.K. Yeah, yeah. Drop that thing right, man.

There's Lindsey right there. Lindsey had them things, the crump snatcher. Yeah. Lindsey was a crump snatcher. Let's keep this thing moving. I don't know if y'all have seen this Baby Gronk phenomenon going on around the town, but- Baby Gronk? Baby, he's not related baby Gronk phenomenon going on around around the town, but maybe Gronk Maybe he's not related to Gronk, but his name is baby Groot baby Groot

Ugly baby out there somewhere just tree ish. He said Gronk like the football player Yeah, like the football player, but you know over pairing overbearing parents in sports of the tradition is all this time We all remember those AU dads would be in the gym with the unrealistic expectations for their kids in their future So it's a kid by name of Matt Madden San Miguel aka baby Gronk 10 year old internet sensation 300,000 followers on his IG For his football highlights He's also hanging out with celebrities now making appearances at colleges all over the country doing a little recruiting thing with the the jerseys and the chains How does he 10 years old. But behind the scenes, Baby Gronk's dad is pulling the strings,

and he's caught some heat lately for just being a little too thirsty, sliding in a bunch of famous people's DMs, trying to collab, trying to get stuff done. But a clip dropped this week of Baby Gronk doing an interview, and it exposed his pops for feeding him some lines. Are you him is the real question. Yes. See, I'm the real question. Yes. See, I'm going to punch him in.

Ask that again, bro. Say, man, what kind of question is that? You see my Instagram? Say that. Ready? Hey, baby grump. Are you him? What kind of question is that?

Look at my Instagram. Would you take her to prom someday? Hey, no, say it again, bro. You got to say it. Man, I already DM'd her and asked her, say it again bro. You gotta say it. I already DMed her and asked her and she said yes. All right, come on man, sit on the mic. Hey Baby Gronk, would you take Lillie Dunn to prom you think? I already DMed her and she said yes.

Damn, damn. Yeah, so, you know. Baby Gronk's dad been called out for cloud chasing, but Baby Gronk, is Pop's bad dad or about that bag? What about the interviewers? What about the podcast niggas? Wait, who's interview? Did they ask the question again and then do it?

Yes. Like they are more the reason. They're part of the problem. What the? The dad is cutting it. Huh? Did they supposed to cut it? Did they supposed to cut it? I think they were supposed to clip it and then question and answer.

Unlike Gil Zerino, we do everything live, unfiltered. Everything you see is what you get. You know the best part about it? Is after he gave him the answer, right? And he's saying it, he's saying it with him. Like you said it right, like, come on, Pops. Hold on, let's do that one more time and I need you to say something. One more time.

But I got to give Pops some love, man. I think- Hell no, dog. They're talking about cloud chasing, but is it master marketing? You know, Oz is an artist's kid. He's going to have some juice now. He may flame out like Macaulay Culkin did from his home alone. But he getting it while he can get it. I'm...

You're not rolling? He's 10. One, why are you doing interviews with a 10-year-old? It just gives me that, here I go again, like parents man, you need to go get your own fucking goals. Like go reach your own goals in life. Stop trying to live under your kids. That's what it is, you're corny.

Like that's a 10 year old kid and you're telling him how to do an interview and what to say. Like, let this kid be a kid. Like you had your chance as a human. The 10 year old shouldn't be getting interviewed at this point. So it's the podcast. First of all, it's the podcast. First of all, it was the dad. It was the dad.

It was both. It's kind of both because it's like, yo, if he's not answering these questions, he's not putting the situation to look like this. It's not looking like this if y'all not thirsty for the content. Or the parents not looking at these type of podcasts like, let's get here because we know they're going to interview us. Let's go get the kids. The parent is trying to get everything he can out of the Sun now And it's that's why it's corny. It's like it's ten-year-old kid. It's available

That's what it is. It's like man where we can go. We got somewhere We can go get some quick clout get this back some quick clout real quick son say it like this Yeah, but he not doing it like I mean he ain't doing it like lower like like ball like ball that yeah Like at least ball that's in my kid is the great, like he over here, say this, say that. So I was going to get to that. Baby Gronk has drawn comparison to LeVar Ball, but like you said, LeVar is different. And from the standpoint, all three of his children made it to the pros. Two of them were top three picks in the league.

And even though Lonzo LaMelo, obviously, career has been hampered by injury, and we've seen that, there was a time when the ball family was the biggest thing going in basketball. So what's the line between promoting and marketing your kids versus exploiting them? That. I mean, he called him baby grump. Was he just bigger than everybody at 10? Yeah. He was just bigger than everybody at 10?

Yeah. He played hard all the time? No. I mean, how tall is his daddy? Five nine? So he's going to be... I'm just realistic. Your daddy's five nine, your mom's probably like five six. You're not going to be grunk.

All right? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's just realistic. Yeah. I mean soccer's good. You can be a nice little soccer rugby player. If he is the size of grunk, you probably wouldn't go get him swabbed.

That ain't your kid. That ain't your son. It ain't your son. Ida Pappy, milkman. We talk about this a lot in youth sports, and I'm seeing it tonight with my kids. You look around, and we've had this convo, but it's like, look at some of these kids, phenomenal five, six, seven, eight-year-olds. Then you look at the parents, it's like,

you gotta be real with yourself. This shit is not going, like I remember Englewood Y back in the day, you get these pops come in and you look at them, but you look at them, it's like, dog, your kid's good now, but, he's five, six, ten. You're five, four, he's five, seven. This is it.

This is it. This is it. Is dad and mom together? Cause I guess they need to go get some pussy or something. This is terrible. That was trash. They said the dad is 5'8 and they said he got the same reading level as Grum. Yeah, I mean.

That was an Arizona joke. To call yourself dad, you must be, you know, just bigger, a little bit bigger than everyone. That is my first time seeing or hearing about this and hopefully it's the last. Don't worry, you're going to slide in here damn soon like, yo, let's collab. Let's collab. I got an interview. Bring him on Gills Arena.

Dude, I don't want to interview you. Not my son. I don't want to interview you. Neither one of y'all. He's 10. What are we going to say? Imagine how many of those there is out there, though. What?

Dads like that. Oh, for sure. I watched them. Imagine how many of those there is out there? What got dad's like that? Oh for sure. I watched imagine how many I was against that wasn't a lot here Hmm. What's the name? It ain't turbo fast Speed it what was his name the young kid fast as hell He was like fast for four-year-old fire or six. What's this name? The young kid. Fast as hell. He was like the fastest four year old, five year old, six year old. What's his name? Y'all know who he is. Flash.

Let's see if the chat. Nah, he's like a running back. Fast as shit. I don't know. A track runner. I ain't never heard of this baby girl. That's the first time I heard him. I tend not to pay other people's children attention.

I got my own. I got my own. Blaze. Blaze, yeah. Like, he look like he could be good. Because he's, you can see he puts in work. He's like a Tyreek Hill kind of a situation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But he's only like 10, 11. For sure. But you can see him put his words. His daddy just, like, his dad don't be in it. Just put him through his drills. He go out there, run his little routes. Looking them kids up, like little Reggie Bush. Saw this clip the other day,

this little girl doing jujitsu and this dude is commentating over it. He's like, she's like smiling as she's arm barring everybody. Like she getting everybody on the ground. Like little girl smiling before the match and all that. Little girl get up crying. She didn't armbar her in no time.

And the dude is coming to take me, giving her all of like the rough names that you can possibly give her. Like Princess Chewbacca, like all kind of, I'm like, yo. But if it's like that, if your child is like special, he or she is doing something like that and you, you adamant about their future in it, then yeah, you know what I'm saying?

But if you, to your point, if you're trying to live vicariously through your child and you putting them in situations where there is no way hell they gonna be successful in the sport or the field that you're trying to push them in, you know what I'm saying? Then you gotta be realistic, you know what I'm saying? For sure, for sure.

That's just what it is, you know what I'm saying? Then you got to be realistic. You know what I'm saying? For sure, for sure. That's just what it is. You know what I'm saying? You can't be out there putting your child through this and then when people start talking about it negatively, and now it's a problem. You know what I'm saying?

No, but you're exposing them to the world for people to have something to say. That's right. You know what I'm saying? So let, and I'm just a firm believer,

I'm going to say this, I'm just a firm believer in letting kids be kids. You know what I'm saying? firm believer. I'm gonna say this. I'm just a firm believe in letting kids be kids No, I'm saying let them enjoy their childhood because the world gonna teach them enough bullshit along the way I'm saying so let them be kids if they good at what they are Let them be that you want to film film do all that let build them a resume of highlights cool Do all that but not exploiting them to the point to where it like this Yeah, it's, like, yeah,

it's just sick, man. The funny thing about football at that age, 90% of those players won't even be in those positions once they get to the, because all coaches or whoever the biggest kid on the team is, he's the running back, because no one can stop him. Yeah. Right? We're going, you know, you got this 200- kid, but like you gonna be on the defense, bro Right you work on your defensive skill

But so that's what ends up happen with these kids anyway Like you most of you guys gonna be deep if you're bigger than everyone now Most you guys gonna be defensive players anyway when it comes to developing, high school, college. All right, well let's keep this thing moving. We got to go back to basketball. We got to talk about Bradley Bill. We got the chance to interview him. Was that this year?

When did they do that Wizards shit that we went to? That summer. That was during the season. Remember, because they played the Heat. November. Yeah. November. Yeah. Yeah, so we got to interview Bradley Beal, just talk about his future and his situation

with the Wizards. So this tweet is just in. According to Shams, the Washington Wizards and Bradley Beal will work together to find a trade for the three-time All-Star if the team elects to reset the roster in the near future. And this is league sources tell Shams and Joshuaoshua b robbins so bill is the only current player with a no trade clause which means he has control over his destiny just finished the first year of a five-year 251 million dollar deal but on the flip side he's only played 90 games in the

past two seasons i want to say like 2019 20 in 2021 he was averaging 30 a game these past two seasons he's been at 23 points per game. So when you look at Bradley Beal, where do you think he could be traded to? What's a good option for somebody to bring in Bradley Beal's services? I mean, you know, what do you mean? Put the ball in the basket. I mean, smooth, knows how to play the game.

You know, watching him up close, he's actually unselfish. So I mean, you know, with a player like that who can come off screens, can, you know, play off the ball, you know, I'm pretty sure anybody can use him. For that bag though. Philly? Philly, huh? You got him, Tyrese Maxey together, big fella.

I think that somewhere like that where he ain't got to be the man I'm saying definitely somewhere where he ain't got to be a man. Like you got the man already allegedly You're Robin. I'm saying so Dallas. Yeah with Luca just I Think you just need the ball a little to Luca is more dominant I'm saying I think you need to be able to get it when he need to because he still can go score that thing against anybody.

But I think having somebody a big or, I'm saying, where he could be a part of a collection of not having to be. Yeah, I think he's past the point of trying to be the guy, the main guy on the team. I think he's going to be the trying to be the guy, the main guy on the team. I think he's going to be the Robin or the utility guy. I think Dallas might be a nice fit. Somebody. When was he the guy? He was the guy in Washington. He's been the guy the last three years.

Three, four years. Two years when Wall was hurt and he had to carry the team. Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay. You know, I feel like- I'm sensing some other, you know- When Wall was hurt and he had to carry the team. Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay. You know, I feel like. I'm sensing some other, you know. I'm just saying.

I mean, can he stay healthy? I mean, if you're moving Bradley Bill. Put him with the Lakers. Put him with the Lakers, right? To your point. He would fit good with the Lakers. I think so. Because you got a big.

Because you got a big. You got a big and you got a good. You got another guy. And you got another big rebounder. He playing in Washington. They losing. Losing. I'm saying losing like a big. Because you got a big. You got a big and you got a good. You got a big and you got another guy. And you got another big rebounder. Like to your point though, he playing in Washington, they losing. Losing? I'm saying losing like a mother. Yeah.

Right? Them injuries could be like, man, I'm not finna keep putting my body through that dog. He could be healthy. He could be not as bad as he making it seem at times. But who's going to keep putting up with that? It's just human nature at times. I'm not finna keep. What's the farthest he's been in the playoffs I'm saying what second round

Like the furthest they ever been to the playoffs was second round, but they never had a he's never had With John Wall they did I John Wall was hurt. They never Know they had a team but a team to make a run no wall kept getting hurt They never had no team room and so they never like you you got your main so it was him Gorta second round Nah, so let me throw another team out like when wall kept going down cut and so it kind of So we talked about the he talked about the Sixers. What about the Celtics? Bill and Jason Tatum went to the same high school Shaman I college preparatory in st. Louis. It's a better fit I mean, that's a better fit than what you're talking about breaking up the Tatum went to the same high school Chaminade College Preparatory in st. Louis. It's a better fit

I mean, that's a better fit than what you're talking about breaking up the Tatum Jalen Brown duo I go to I like a little more because since he's unselfish I like him and go to stay he can pass off the Huh, Milwaukee? To get rid of all the heat on the Milwaukee. They all go to Milwaukee I think he gonna want a big market. He's more consistent that city. Yeah, but he gonna want a big market Why would he want a big month? Is he a trade clause because? He has a trade kick. What do he need a big market for because I'm Towards the end of my career. I'm like like this is like wherever he goes now

The books inserted it is certain right into the playoffs right away right away He got a he a contender team with a little bit of this little candidate, but who's up here for Christmas him him holiday and the honest with bro. That's the nice you get rid of 30 in a couple of years, but I'm already I'm thinking about okay. Well, I got five more years like what five more good years left. Okay, so I'm thinking marketing and I'm thinking having a chance to win a championship every year. So marketing wise I would go to go to state but Golden State shit Miami shit Miami. The Lakers who you moving in Golden State. Pooling um pooling Andrew Wiggins and Drew is you move pull away. Yeah. Yeah Bradley bill go to Milwaukee. What you get Andrew Andrew Wiggins. You can't do that defense. Yeah

That don't I don't like Bradley bill not give you where Bradley bill play D Who's on 23 to we just gotta go Cool, but I'm trying to win like I Got consistent. I got consistency and another guy Lakers The bag is but then with the bag is too fluffy, I think. That's the other issue that goes in with any potential suitors. He's got like 50 mil per year committed.

But as I said, Poole and Wiggins eat up that same something. You got the home of City. If he's making a move, he needs to make a move to where it makes sense for the rest of his career. This is it. This is it if he's making this move. You don't want to make a move where, all right, it don't work the first two years, then I got to move my family. And he got a family.

So we talk about Bill. Obviously, it could be a prolific score, and it's done in the past few seasons. Like I said, the last two seasons kind of seen a drop off in that. But what scoring option is Bradley Bill on a real championship contender? Two. On a championship contender? Two. Two? On a championship contender? Number two guy?

Yeah, two. Okay. Yep, him and Steph together. They can go with him. You could throw Klay out in the mix. Klay I think's contract's up next year. Yeah, but I would move Klay to the third option though. I move Klay to the third option.

One stronger. One athletic. Do you need strength? Do you need strength? One can create his own shot. Defensive. He's like Booker. Yes, he is.

Defensive. You know what I mean? So it's... Do you need a Booker on the Golden State? Yeah. Why? Because if Steph goes down, I really have someone who can actually take over number one.

And you still think Bradley Beal can be that number one guy? He's a scorer, man. He's a scorer. He definitely could. He could fill that void when you just lose. Any event, any event, and he's a vet. He's a pro, man. I'm just saying, I just think a lot of them.

He's a professional scorer. That would help them miss back there. That would help the Golden State get back there. I think a lot of them games they missed had to do with the fact that they was losing. He gets sick of it. He was ashamed of it. I'm not rushing back out there, man. Like get sick of it. You get ashamed of it. I'm not rushing back out there, man.

Listen, dog. This is real. How prevalent do y'all feel like that is? It seems like when you win and you're going to play through injuries, you're going to do what you got to do when there's actually that hope of getting to that championship level. But if you know your team's mid. Mid and bottom.

You got 30 games left. Y'all damn near 700 games behind 500. Right? You're supposed to be back in two weeks. Like, for what? Yeah. Right?

I mean, just for what? Let me go. I'm going to let this thing all the way here. Instead of me coming back at 85, I'm going to try to get this thing closer to 100 as I could possibly get it before we step back out there.

If we ain't got no chance. We ain't. Hell no. They ain't got no chance. Hell no. They ain't had a chance in years. Let's be honest, man. You ain't got no chance, man. It don't make no sense. I'm going to get healthy.

But even with the Dame, between him and Dame, they're going to have to make decisions to where it's a championship caliber team. Absolutely. If not, then you're just wasting your time and then you're just going to become a journeyman. So you have to make decisions

that they make this summer is going to have to be a decision where they can't. But Bill can't be a journeyman. Huh? Bill can't be a journeyman. So you have to make, the decision that they make this summer is gonna have to be a decision where they can. But Bill can't be a journeyman. Huh? Bill can't be a journeyman. Yeah, you can be. Not with a,

not with that. Trade to your claws. No, but I'm saying, once he get traded from there, then what? Then it's over. Then he get traded from there. Yeah, it is.

It's a no trade clause. It's a no trade clause that goes away then. Yeah, the trade, the no trade clause, yes it does, it goes away. No it doesn't. Yes it can. You can't tell Golden State, oh don't trade me. There's no trade clause that goes away then. There's no trade clause. Yes, it does. It goes away. No, it doesn't.

Yes, it can. You can't tell Golden State, oh, don't trade me. Man, get the fuck out of here. Once they trade you, you can't. You're not going for the game. No, that trade. No, it's in your contract. No, it's not.

You just can't trade me to any of it. No, they can't trade me in the city. I get that. Once the contract is up. Once the contract is up. Once the contract is up five years. So he got four more years So he so if he gets treated came this year and then he goes into the front and then next somebody want to trade him They got to negotiate with that man. Yeah, they came

Track is up. Yeah, so okay. So how many years he got left? So he got he's got three more in a player options of four bus. Oh next season. He's making a 47 million 2024 is making 50 million. 2025 is making 53. And that 26, 27 year when he has a playoff option, it'll be $57 million. He has to get in a championship. But that's the thing.

That's why it'd be hard for him to trade him because if you're trying to trade me. Let's say you're trying to trade me to Memphis and I'm sitting here like, nah. Nope. You're going to have to trade me to where I want to go. Make it happen. So he's at the point where he's like, okay, these are the – he can come into the season right now. He can say, I'm only going to two teams.

I'm going to go to Golden State and Lakers. That's it. But the organization can see. The organization. I mean, my thing is like talking like that, That's it I mean, I think it's like talking like that then you better be bringing in the championship talking like that They can do but who has oh, I mean we don't have to bring that I don't give that shit out a lot unless you got leverage over the muffler We don't have to who has the leverage in the situation because if bill says that and I'm the Lakers of Warriors

I know well shit. I don't have to offer as much like this is where you want to go No, take it or leave it. Yeah Because if Bill says that and I'm the Lakers or Warriors, I know, well, shit, I don't have to offer as much. Like, this is where you want to go. Take it or leave it. Yeah. That's all I'm saying. Bill and who has the leverage, Bill and whoever he wants to go to. Not if you want to bring a ring. There ain't no leverage.

Then it's just like, whatever. But those teams have to want him too, right? It has to be guaranteed rings to me. For the team that's getting them? For you to be saying, okay, well, I want to come here. Well, you're telling me where you want to come. So you want to come here because you're going to add, like, championship mentality, right? So then you better bring it.

And I don't want to hear shit. Wait a minute. Any team that's going to want them is going to want them. Like, if I don't have to give any pieces up because you want to be here, that helps the Lakers. Like, let's say the Lakers. If the Lakers know this is where he wants to be, now the Lakers are sitting there like, well, we'll give y'all, uh, we still got rice to Kuzma? No there like well, we'll give you all uh We still got rice to Kuzma. No, I will give you a like you just start throwing shit out there because you know They don't have to give up anybody because he wants to be the contract So they're gonna say he's saying when you get a power to the player the player got a delivery. Yeah, you got to deliver

This is the bar that's saying like yo, nah, fuck that. I don't want to go there. I want to go here So we forcing that trade to go there He's saying nigga you gotta come here I don't want to hear nothing. I'm paying you all this money and we better win a ring Yeah, but okay, you're the boy come here and we and I don't know what you're gonna do still pay But now I'll make you a journeyman so now I can't I'm a trade Okay, well I want to go to But now I'm gonna make you a journeyman so now I can't I'm a trade Okay, well I want to go to I want to go to go to state make it happen That's fine. Now you got to sit there and negotiate with Golden State and Golden State is doing the same thing now

Go to say this life I'm gonna give you these pennies form but you to give up $50 million worth of whatever to make those contracts match. So it becomes a situation for the Wizards if they don't see the value. And there's only a finite amount of teams that can do that. If I'm an owner, man, I need what I want back.

If you're the Wizards, what you going to do? I'm going to wait. Me too. That's fine. I mean, that's fine. We can play the game. At the end of the day, I'm paying you anyway. I'll play the game. We'll just sit right there. And the player loses because he doesn't

play. That's another year you ain't playing. That's another year you ain't playing. It don't matter. The biggest issue in this whole situation, the new CBA obviously trying to punish big spending teams. He's making 50 mil plus a year for upwards of the next four years. So wherever he goes, that team's got to give up that and now have that on the books. Man, listen.

I'm just telling you. Listen, man. As a businessman, as an owner. Go ahead. All that CBA shit, man. Listen, that's for the public, right? That's for the public and the fans to have some loyalty to the team. Silver works for the moaners.

Right? So no matter what it says in the motherfucking writing, it's going to favor the people who need it to be favored. Right? We done had how many CBAs? We done had how many lockouts? Yeah, we can go to that. We done had lockouts about money. Where that money at right now?

250, 251, 260. They have another lockout. It'll go down 100, 195, and then that bitch gonna be up at 308 years. Right? Eight years, though. Look at the gap. Eight years.

You wait eight years. It's the only... Do to take the max of 195 But what I'm saying is, it's the only- Dudes will take the max of 195. What I'm saying is, you can't tell a billionaire how to spend his money, right? They gon' figure, their business, they gon' fit, Mark Cuban gon' figure out how to spend his money,

Ballmer gon' figure out how to spend his money, New York, they gon' figure out how to spend his money. That language don't, listen, that language is for the broke owners. That's sad to say right now Yeah, bro. Like a billion Yeah, the means what it's like before there's a lockout there's owners meeting and they'd be sitting there big boy What's him you on? Oh, yo, yo Take it from the players and then that's what they'd like. All right. Yeah, the players is making too much money

And then this is then we have the lockout. We have the lockout because they can't come to an agreement on TV shit. So no matter what the writing said, they're going to get through that, man. The Clippers wouldn't be a bad pick for Bradley Bill. Yes, definitely. Oh, man, don't do that to me. He don't deserve that. What you mean, don't deserve that?

He don't deserve that. What you mean? Shit, we got pieces. They got pieces over there. He don't deserve that. They can give up for him. Why not? Don't do that.

Oh, you just don't want to see the Clippers be good? You got to give up Paul or Kawhi to get him. Huh? You got to give up Paul or Kawhi. I'll keep them both. You can't. I'll send them to Denver. Why not?

You can't. Well, one's going to play 40, 50-something games. Bring them down to Miami. Then the other one, good luck. They ain't got no pieces in Miami. They ain't got no money to match him. Yeah, to make that move with the Clippers, you gotta go Paul George, Kawhi Leonard. If the Heat wanted to do it, it'd have to be some janky shit like Kyle Lowry and Duncan

Robinson. I mean, just shit that. Some janky shit, right? Like the Wizards probably. The only people who got money that can dig and do it is... I'd get off Tyler Herro and Duncan Robinson for him. Yeah, I wouldn't mind that. And Gabe Benson. For Bradley Beal.. And Duncan Robinson for Bradley Beal.

For Bradley Beal. You're still not going to win it. You're still not going to win it. You're still not going to win it. You're still not going to win it because you're not getting past the Bucs. You're still not going to win it. They make $10.

And Cavanaugh. Just the two. They make $5. Just the two. They got the cheapest bench. And Udonis Haslam. They got the cheapest bench ever. So they know.

And Alonzo Mourning. I mean, the Heat. But if you're the Heat, are you looking at Dame? You looking at Harden? Who are you valuing? He over there trying to survive. He's giving like six people just to match his money. That's all. You're Bob McAdoo.

Take five. Duncan Robinson and Tyler Herro. Yeah, Herro and Robinson would make it work. Kyle Lowry if they take that. Wait, wait, no, no. Herro's, Duncan Robinson's contract is a little weird. That's a lot of incentive base. So you don't know what that base salary really is.

Is that up to Miami? Well, I'm saying, I mean, you got Kyle Lowry, but it's really a matter is a little weird. That's a lot of incentive base, so you don't know what that base salary really is. Send him to Miami? You got Kyle Lowry, but it's really a matter of will the Wizards take that. Kyle Lowry on an expiring deal next year. They can free up after the following year. And I'm no CBA expert or whatever. If I'm the Wizards, I'm being tough. I'm going to Miami. I need it.

You got no tough. How you being tough with a dude with a no trade call? No trade. Right, so wherever he want to go, I want they star players back. It's not No control in this situation this ain't this was a it says no tree That means you just can't wake up and say you're gone Nah, every other player that's that has it in a contract besides Kevin Oh, that's why so whatever team he was that he want to, I'm going to make sure I get their star player.

He just want a good deal. But still, I don't want him in there. That's who I want to play with. Why would the Wizards do that? Because they had no leverage. Because they have no leverage. They had no leverage. And you always have leverage if you're the boss.

Whatever. We're going to sit out there. You got to cut his check for one. Huh? You got to cut his check for one. I'll cut whatever I feel like. If I'm the owner, I'll cut whatever I feel like. If I'm the owner, I'll cut whatever I feel like.

What I'm saying is, I asked for the same thing, but I didn't have leverage because I was hurt. I don't care if you have leverage. Yeah, you can have a trade clause if you want, but it's going to be at this number. I'm good. They're not going to understand. If I'm the owner of the Wizards, I don't give a fuck about what he talking about. I can get another one. I can get another one. That's how they do talk.

I can get another one. So at the end of the day, I'm not doing, you ain't good enough to be having no trade clause. But that's the deal they gave me. I'm going to save my money and then whatever. But that's the deal they gave me. But the fact of it is, they did it. Because now I'm fucked. At the end of the day.

At that moment in time. Right, but now I'm fucked. Yes, but at that moment in time, you had Wall who went down, right? You had Wall who went down, and then he emerged as the number one option. Now you have clean image, good dude, practices hard. So you have all the elements, and when he asked for it, it's like, we don't have no leverage against him. So just let him go.

We can keep our money. We don't have no leverage. Well, they didn't, and. We can keep our money. We don't have no leverage. Well, they didn't. But that's what I'm saying. But this is what I'm saying. With owners, it's like you're fucking yourself at the end of the day. Like you're giving these guys these contracts. Guys only like two or three people.

So if the GM come to you, be like, he worth it. The president come to you, be like, he worth it. And I'm the owner, right? Yeah. So what are you going to do? Who's worth what? If he's worth the money? If the GM come to you, the GM and in the present y'all sit down at?

Dinner you're on mm-hmm me give you come in we up front office. We come to sit down with you Yeah, Bradley bill is the topic. Mm-hmm He's your this piece about it. I say the same thing. We need this piece to build around we can do this We can do this this contract says I think we paying He's asking for a no trade this. His contract says, I think we paying. He's asking for a no trade clause. What you think? I really don't like it, but this is where we are with it.

Right, and this is what I'm gonna say. What's our record? The owner has the right to say yes or no. So what's our record with him being a man? You have the right to say yes or no in that moment. Right, and I'm gonna say, so what's our record with him being a man? Right, I'm gonna say that, right?

So how many games have we won? So obviously, we can pass on him. Like I'm going to say that, right? So how many games have we won? So obviously we can pass on him. I get it, the future, but it ain't really showing me nothing because when he's being a man we ain't winning. So you lose him and Wall at the same time? That's fine and then we'll just start over. Well that's what they're doing right now but still. But what

I'm saying is now I'm in a situation where I have a no trade. Let's say Luka's, I mean not Luka but Joker's up this year and he says I want't no trade. Let's say Lucas, I mean, not Lucas, but Joker's up this year. Okay. And he says, I want to know trade calls. Yes, because we won a championship. You already proved it.

But it don't matter, but you're saying yes anyway. But I'm saying he don't play for the next three years and you're trying to trade him. I'm saying yes to a nigga that is proven. He's won a ring. He is proven. But facts, to your point, if he was up last year. Or the year before that. Or the year before that. Two-time MVP. He could come in that Buffalo. I want to know

trade clause. Guess what the Denver Nuggets is going to do? Okay. Yes. Do you see the record? Do you see how good we're getting? But there's no championship though. But we're there. We're right there. The Wizards have no chance of even getting to the championship. A lot of teams have been right there and they never win it. No, but the Wizards had no chance. When Wall went down, it was When Wall went down, it was a wrap.

It was time to just get rid of both. So they was putting the ball in the way of the team. But no, when Wall went down, he emerged. So therefore, they was like, here you go. He emerged into what? We not winning. You emerged into a scoring god. He was already a scoring god.

He's already been a scoring god. No, when Wall was there, he was capped. Bradley Bill could always score the basket. He could, but he was capped. But he was capped because the other star there when the other start down and he rose Oh shit, we can build around So we can get pieces for him instead of having a no trade clause 22 to 30 shit like that. Here's the question. Why is it important to have a trade clause?

Why is it important to traffic trade clause? Why is it important to have a trade clause? Why is it important to have a trade clause? Why is it important for Bradley? So they can't just wake up and be like, you know what, Bradley? No, I know that. But I'm saying for me as an owner, I'm not giving that because I know the leverage. But you would need it, wouldn't you? You're not giving it to Luka? If Luka's...

So here's the rules to be eligible for a no trade clause. I think it's important to mention that. So to be eligible for a no trade clause in clause. I think it's important to mention that. So to be eligible for a no-trade clause in a new contract, a player must have eight years of NBA experience, have spent at least part of the least fourth of those seasons with the team he is signing the new contract with. So when you look at guys over the course of history who've had the no-trade clause, Carmelo Anthony, Bill, Kobe Bryant,

Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, LeBron James, Dirk Nowitzki, David Robinson, John Stockton, and Dwyane Wade. You can't just shit me off. I would have never gave him a point. You can't just shit me off somewhere. Who would have given him a point? You can't just shit me off.

That's what Bradley on. He like, no, no, no. You can't just shit me off without my permission. I ain't waking up and seeing that I'm gone. Right. And this is no... I'm just talking about the no trigger. It has nothing to do with Bradley Bill, like whatever. Any player that was in this situation. But I just feel like, why are you giving guys, I think you should, you should, you should,

you got to win a championship, first team. You got to be like MVP or something. Or you're young. It's your future asking for. Out of all NBA players, it's only about 10. So it's not like you're talking about the whole league. So it's not like Giannis don't have one.

He should. He should. Steph Curry should have one. Well, no, Steph, I mean somebody like Steph, KD, right? KD should have one, yes. He probably do

because he only, yeah. But he got to be four seasons so you got to be at the four season spot. But he got it. That's the new one. That's the new one. Like Devin Booker

should have one. Men to the finals. But no, no, no. Giannis won't have one because he's in a small market. So tovin Booker should have one. Men to the finals. Giannis won't have one because he's in a small market. So to him, he don't really. These are guys who don't want. They're big names that don't want to go. Because if it's not working out in Milwaukee, guess what they're going to do with Giannis?

It's not working out, man. Where would you like for us to send you? You've done this for us. Where would you like for us to send you? You've done this for us. What would you like for us to send you? He has the leverage. Of course. But I'm saying, so to Gil's point. What I'm going to do, I'm going to build the statue, and I'm going to put the jersey up there.

But that don't happen to everybody. Everybody, you can wake up one day, and your ass got shipped to motherfucking any city. That's why you need to win. You'll be in Minnesota. You wake up, and you got traded over to Twitter. That's why you need to win. You went from L.A. to Minnesota. You'd be like Minnesota. That's why you need to win. You went from LA to Minnesota. You'd be like, what's this? Like, I think Jimmy should have one.

Jimmy Butler. No. No. Yeah, I think he should have one. Why? He's proven. Proven what? I can get there.

I can get there. Get where? I can get to the finals. Shit, I proved that shit too. Right, so you should have. You should have. Then win it. should have 10 people that means magic didn't have one that is mad I mean come on I mean we're talking but these

are guys that should but this is why it makes the no trade calls like it's kind of like why do like who the fuck are you to get that like if the other guys ain't got it smart because I think it's just like you know I didn't do it I think the owners are just giving in too early. A little bit too early. They have no – You're giving them too early. I mean, just giving in too early. So Kevin Garnett had it in Minnesota, so you're not giving KG a – no trade calls

in Minnesota? Of course I'm giving KG one. And he didn't win nothing. He didn't win nothing in Minnesota. He didn't make it out of the first round. The ticket won a ring. He didn't make it out of the first round. The ticket was already –

He had that in Minnesota. He didn't make it out of the first round. I mean, I was MVP. He didn't make it out of the first round I was MVP He maybe I'm MVP at a league, right? I'm MVP. I'm the first thing we be in this. Yeah, I'm MVP But what I'm saying is we get out and I'm and I'm here MVP dog your city don't take off the niggas who aren't even we What are we doing so What are we doing? Hold on. So to your point, right?

It's cat and pig. So is it we're competing for a championship, or we're not with you? We're competing for a championship, and I need my guy. Go get MVP for me. So how are we competing for a championship, and we losing in the first round year in, year out?

Well, like you're saying, it ain't my fault. I did my job. No, but you just said about Bradley Beal though. Is he coming in with a championship? Kevin Garnett was losing the same thing as Bradley Beal at the time. So therefore, what is it with you? Is he competing for a championship? Did he deserve that or is it because he got MVP?

So what is it with you? What I'm saying is we have a better chance of winning with Kevin than we do with Bradley Bill and that era he was looting first round. I mean, I mean shit the Kobe's I mean that the East is not I mean, I mean you can't make it in the East round about the owner and not understanding that if you're a player and you know, like when John Moran's up, right? When, um... John Moran could get a no-brainer. No, not when Cat, when, um... Who?

Cat, uh... Cat. No, no, no. Ant-Man. Ant? When Ant's up, I want no trade clause. For what? What they gonna do? For what?

What you gonna do? For what? What you gonna do? Okay, well, I won't. Well, then... You gonna let me walk? Well, then... I'm a free agent. Okay. Well, I won't well then you go I'm a free agent. Bye. Bye

Bye your whole franchise is done for the next we already done anyway with you niggas already done. We're already done anyway, we're niggas That's not true If they leave the franchise is this another just somebody feel the shoe hold on like John Moran Says I want a no trade calls and they say now we're not gonna give you to you go to free agency and leave When you when you think you use him with a sabbatical, I'm not using John right? Yeah. Why because John Morris like AI Okay, no, so you're taking the extra risk You're letting he asked for letting them walk. I let him go. Because he's a headache. And you're Memphis kid.

Absolutely. How long has Memphis been around? It doesn't matter. No, no, no, it does. No, it doesn't matter. Because with this situation, it doesn't matter. He's selling out my seats. With this situation. That one man is selling out my seats.

I let that one man go. I've been in this business for how many years? Listen, had he not had the situation that he's had, I would agree with you 1,000%. That sounds good in the broad things, but as an owner, he ain't do nothing worth not giving him what he wants. Ain't nobody been involved. It's been by himself.

He hasn't damaged the brand. He hasn't damaged the brand. So let's make that same conversation now that the fine is over. And let's see what Adam Silver... Since 95-96? I see what Adam Silver got to say here soon. They moved to Memphis in 2000.

John Moran has been my best asset thus far. He's been the most popular. He's been the biggest name I've had. And I'm just going to let him walk and expect I'm going to get another one of them in this situation absolutely

you don't get another LeBron we're not talking about LeBron James we're talking about Ja Morant we're talking about Ja Morant with the current situation you let him go, your team is going to go down a billion dollars in this current situation that's happening. You let him go, your team's going to go down a billion dollars. In this current situation, this current state.

Nah, man. That's not true, Gil. That's not true, Gil. That's not true. When he gets suspended, let's see them ticket sales. Okay. The damage has already been done, though. I guarantee you, they better sell them tickets today.

The suspension's coming. Before the suspension happens. It's coming. They better sell the season tickets. The suspension's coming. Before the suspension happens. It's coming. They better sell the season tickets before the suspension's coming. I guarantee you, if they start selling them after those first 20, 30 days, the motherfuckers ain't buying. So let me ask you this. So now you're contradicting yourself.

So now, before you said Brad Bill, clean cut, this, that, and the third. That's why he deserved no trade clause. Get him. He did say that. Get him. So is John Morant clean cut the same thing? Bill clean-cut this that and the third. That's why he deserved no trade clause John Moran clean-cut he the same thing so that's so that's so that applies the same way Who's a special talent? It doesn't matter. Yeah, but clean-cut this special talent all that Does it matter yes it does so is this the same situation does. So is this the same situation?

No, this is not the same situation. So he's not clean cut, is he? No, he's not clean cut. Because he has a super talent. But your argument was... Would you have given Allen? Bradley Beal does not have John Morant, the it factor. Okay. Right?

He does not have that it factor. So that it factor overshadows a whole lot of shit. Well, not in this NBA we're talking about. Would you have given Allen Iverson a no-trick law? Not in this NBA. Would you have given Allen Iverson a no-trick law? In that era? Absolutely. Because what was his what was his what was what was wrong with him in that era? He was made it to the finals. We made it to the finals with him. He is Philadelphia. I was either saying he was a say he is Philadelphia.

I was the same. But it is Philadelphia. He was here. He did all that shit. The browns back in Philly. I wasn't the same person as John. No, no, no. But what he's saying is they have the same type of or like like like every time they

walk into the arena and be you know, it's a must-see TV So I'm giving it trade close to this NBA rally bill. They changed the car They changed they changed how we dressed we're talking about this. They changed how we dressed because of him He but it so there's one person. Yes, so no trade clause for the Philadelphia 76 You would give me Alan Iverson would have asked for a no trade clause, I would have signed it. You would have gave it to him, right? Yes. But you wouldn't do that for John. Because I haven't seen Allen Iverson out here waving no pistol on Instagram.

But that's the generation. We don't know if it's a real gun or not. No, no, no. That's the generation. Now, here it is, God. Hey, go to one AAU game and let them play NBA young boy. Okay. Threes being shot.

Gritties. Everybody gritty and all down. 10-year-olds, 11-year-olds. That's him. Just like back then, everybody's wearing the cornrows, getting the fake tattoos. We talking about this NBA. This NBA. Trust me.

Memphis. He is Memphis. He is Memphis. He is NBA young boy. He Memphis. He is Memphis. Not a chance. He is Memphis. He is NBA young boy. He is the gritty. Not a chance. Hey, Nike tried that shit, too, until they got all them emails. Not a chance.

But it is wild that Nike. Not a chance. Not a trend, man. But they consider taking the shoe down, but they put them shits up. They put them shits back up there. Okay, that's fine. Them little kids wasn't playing that shit. Listen, but trust me.

When they could, can, contractually, trust me, bro. And Ja's a few years away from even being eligible for a no-trade clause, but you think the Grizzlies could replace that? I'm just saying what he brings on and off the court. It's just certain. It ain't about trying to replace Ja. See, but that's my thing. Like, you can't replace him.

It ain't about trying to replace Ja. It's about not dealing with the headache, the shit that he bringing to the – that's what it's about. But are you dealing with that headache if you're getting the bag off of it? Like Nike said, we're dealing with that headache. In this day and age, bro, they not putting up with it.

Like Nike. Hey, would that be exploitation? Would that be exploitation? It's something in Nike. Are you promoting exploitation right now? It's something in the black and white. It's something on page 17, 48 F that say we got to put this shoe out for extended whatever.

Yeah. This could be that or this could be them trying to listen. We're going to get this money off him. We're going to. We're going to. But in this day and age, in this day and age, all the bullshit that's going on. Dudes can't even go enjoy a celebration in Denver Championship, people getting shot. You know what I'm saying?

This is all I'm saying. In this climate of this day and age, it ain't going to happen. But just to talk about the job point, basically what I'm saying is they know they can get a bag off of it. This is a question we really got asked. Is Nike even really? I'm sure, sure yes a bad look for the brand or whatever But they're not tripping on that When they've been moving all these shoes 17 I'm gonna tell you why 47 F

And like who helped us and I'm gonna tell you why they're not tripping and I'm gonna tell you why because I'm gonna tell you This dude helped us out a lot Kanye. Yep, Kanye the city did to Adidas Are you wanna you want to keep my shit up there? All right, what is fucking y'all lose a billion dollars? I bet them shit is up now Yeah, so it's like yeah, you're not gonna do that Hey, if you Memphis you not cuz you don't cuz you're not gonna be able to get that back just like Adidas You're never gonna be able to get that back and I can tell you it was like you're stuck with some people. Like John, they better put them shoes on that. Like, you know, they would be missing out on money if they didn't. It's the easy like you're missing out on a bag if you don't drop the

motherfucking shoes. Right. Because we're in contract. You're in line. It's like, look, if we don't we miss out on a whole bunch of money. Right. That's a business move. But for the culture, they don't care if the shoes are there or not if the shoes are not there They don't give a fuck. They're not knocking down the door like what is that? Who knows the suit the culture the culture not knocking down the shoes No, no, that's what I'm saying If they don't make look if I don't make the shoes available the cultures not knocking down the door for that's why they guess it out It's gonna be a one or two day, oh man, where the shoes at? Next thing, next thing,

next thing. No, not released. Who else? I read you, where your shoe at? Where the mellow shoe at? Why you think they got released? Those emails was fucking they- They didn't ever stop the release. Yes, they did. Yes, they did. They took his shoe off.

Yeah, they took his shoe off. So that's the reason they made the release. They knew the motherfucker was going to... And the lawyer came in. They wasn't ready to take the risk of letting them niggas beat the... They don't want to take the... They're not going to protest the shoe.

They're not protesting the shoe. Hold on, hold on, hold on. They re-released it because of the bag and they wasn't going to miss out on the bag. you know, they wasn't gonna miss out on that. Nike exploited the situation completely. Okay, so what's the difference between Memphis not wanting to lose the bag of number 12 coming through that building? What you mean?

If he says, I want a no trade clause. So let me ask you this. You said let him walk. I got a question. I have a question. Where's the business? The business ain't gonna kick in and say, I can't afford to have this fucking lot. He got my shit worth three billion. I got a question. But it a question. Where's the business? The business ain't going to kick in and say, I can't afford to have this fucking lot. He got my shit worth three billion.

I got a question. But it's affecting the value of the company. Ooh, you got a question. How? His behavior. Hey, hey. All them kids going to be in that motherfucker and come and run it in. Listen, Nike could never get canceled.

Adidas almost got canceled. We're not talking about the Grizzlies. We're not talking about Nike. I'm talking about the Grizzlies. Go ahead. Go ahead, Kevin. The Grizzlies. We're talking about the Grizzlies. Go ahead, go ahead, K-Mart. The Grizzlies. What you talking about the Grizzlies? Oh, go ahead.

Was the Memphis Grizzlies, when Zach and all of them, were they set with that group of guys, Tony and Z-Bo, Mike, Mike Conley, that just have a small, were they setting out the building then? Yes. OK. I don't want to hear nothing. They selling out the building. With winning.

With winning. That whole team. This one man did the same thing. If Jai is that man. His jersey outsold every Grizzly player that ever existed. And if Jai is not winning. They're winning. Perfect.

If Jai is not winning. One jersey outsold every Grizzly jersey ever combined. Were they winning? Were they selling the building out without a Jai Morant? One jersey. Were they selling out the building without a Jai Morant? There's not a lot of good players that was there. Were they selling out the building without a John Moran. There's not a lot of good players that was selling out the building without a John Moran.

The team. Not one person. Not one person. The team. Not one person. That merchandise. You know that merchandise? That number 12?

Do you know what he's saying, though? Do you know what I'm saying? He's saying that the Memphis Colts don't care about that. They're going to come out regardless. You're saying that the Colts is just going to come out. I'm going to sell number 11 jerseys. You have to be a good team. You have to be a good team to outdo the one person.

So this one man, his number 12, outsold the last 20 stars y'all ever had. So y'all worried about jersey sales instead of wins. If you're the owner. Who's selling out? Nike's worried about shoes? They winning. No, you're worried about wins, bro. The owner's worried about asses in the seats

Yes or no To my point Back to what I just said Who you building the team Did they have a job around When they were winning They didn't You're talking about 2010

11 They haven't been around Going to the playoffs every single year. When did they have a job? When? When did they have a job? What year? What year?

The year that you just named. All of your Z-Bowls. You're talking about Z-Bowl. All of them. You're talking about Z-Bowl. All of them. All of them. Rudy Gay.

All the All-Stars. All the All-Stars. How about when they had a left and they've been bad? Did they have a John Morant? When the team was bad? No. Did they have a John Morant when the team was good? Period.

No, they had a team. Did they have a team? So they had a team. To my point. They don't need a John Morant. They had to build a team. To my point. They don't need a John Morant, bro.

They don't need a John Morant to put asses in the seat. That's all he's saying, bro. You don't need a John Morant to put asses in the seat. You need five all-stars. It wasn't five all-stars. They wasn't five all-stars on the Memphis Grizzlies at one time. You needed a different nugget damn near to do what the one man does when he comes out. One man. What is the owner concerned about putting asses in the seat?

Yes or no? So why am I going to let him go? If I'm winning without a job Ja Morant, why do I? You guys won only, what, to the second round? You haven't gone to the Western Conference finals? So where have you gone? Two of them. So where have you got two of them?

The Western Conference? No, no, no. Did they lose when he got hurt? Same spot. That they got with the first round. They went to the same exact spot. No, second round. The year he got hurt. No, no, no to the same exact spot. No, second round.

The year he got hurt. No, no, no, no, no. Right, right, right. The one year he got hurt. And this is what, his third, fourth year? Who? John Morant. Right.

So they, John's first year to make the playoffs. Second year they lost to the Jazz in the first round. The year after that, they lost to the Warriors in the conference semis. Then they lost to the Warriors. They sold out ever since. And they were selling out then too, bro. No, they was not.

Before John Morant came, they was not selling out. I'm not. So you just want to talk about the few years after Zach and all them. Of course they was not selling out. They wasn't fucking winning. I'm talking about when they were winning. Going to the playoffs. And going to the playoffs every single year. What is the owner concerned about?

Put asses in the seats. Okay, but it's taking you what to build those two teams? A team. You're talking about 95. For me to sell out tickets, I had to wait for this perfect team. So that means 14 years to get this. And then when they stopped playing, it took me another eight nine years before I got this player that matched my whole fucking franchise so if they don't win in

the same situation so I have Kobe he's selling out every seat he gets after he leaves I have to wait for LeBron James to come yeah no I don't need a winning team with LeBron James because LeBron's gonna do it John Mor John Morant, win or lose, the building is sold. LeBron James win before he got players with him, dog. It don't matter. My seat is filled. My seat is filled. My seat is filled.

One player. Allen Iverson, win or lose, the seat was filled with Allen Iverson. One player. That era, yes. It don't matter. One player. Allen Iverson, yes. They were winning with Allen Iverson. They was winning with Allen Iverson. When they were losing, iton, yes. They were winning with Allen Iverson.

They was winning with Allen Iverson. When they were losing, it was sold out. They was winning with that. When were they losing with Chuck? When? They went to the championship one time. But when did they win? When were they losing with him?

They went to the championship one time. So consistently they were winning with him. Consistently going to the playoffs. I'm saying this. Yes or no? Yes. Yes or no? They're going to the playoffs here. Like Z-Bo and them had to be perfect to get those people in the season. Because nobody was electric.

Bro, what are you talking about, bro? What are you talking about perfect? They were winning. They were getting to the playoffs. They were having winning seasons. Okay. And they're having winning seasons now because of one nigga. And they put asses in the seat. Even were having winning seasons. And they're having winning seasons now because of one nigga. And they put asses in the seat. Even if Memphis don't win, they're sold out.

It's just like when I went to Milwaukee. Milwaukee had an eight-year drought. Milwaukee had an eight-year drought. Once I got there, we started selling out and we got to the playoffs because of one nigga. That was the hype. Let that tree continue. Hold on.

To your point. It is the case with Memphis. They was already going to. No. It's dropping off. Gil. Gil. Hold on.

Back up. Back up. What you just said, right? For these, he's been in the league four years, right? Three. Four. So hypothetically, so we're going to throw it hypothetically in there right now, right? Because we, so we're talking facts now, but let's throw it hypothetically in there.

Over these three years and going into next year, right, had they been in the basement of the league, year one, they got 12 wins. Year two, they got 13 wins. Year three, they got 11 wins. What, you think people are going to be coming and spending their hard-earned money to watch that shit, boy? To watch him?

To watch that product that they put in the fuck job. To watch that product. Hey, talk about Chicago when Jordan was there and it was losing all them games So you just You just compare Michael Jordan I'm done. Let's move on. Let's move on. Let's move on. You're talking about a one-man shot. We're talking about a difference maker. We're not talking about some regular ass person. We're not talking about no regular ass person.

I'm not talking about no Luka. I'm talking about a real star. If a real star is on a bad team, we're going to watch him be a star. Let me ask you this. Were you around? Nobody knew Michael we're going to watch him be a star. So let me ask you this. Were you around? Nobody knew Michael Jordan was going to beat Michael Jordan. When they were playing at whatever the college scene, before it was United, to see them setting out, Michael Jordan came.

Were you around? No, but I seen him. You seen what? On TV. The bottom row? 84, 85, 85. You seen the bottom? They came to see Michael Jordan.

One person. So you just compared the greatest basketball player of all time to a three-year-old. They didn't know that. But right now, you just did it. You didn't know that yet. You didn't know that yet. You just did it. I'm talking about Michael Jordan when them teams were sorry.

You just compared the greatest basketball player of all time to a five-year-old. When they were sorry. To a three-year-old. When they were sorry the first three years. You just compared the greatest basketball player of all time to a three-year fuck-up. Was he the greatest his first year? For a three-year fuck-up. Was he the greatest when he broke his foot?

You win, Gilbert. When he's the greatest his third year. You win, Gilbert. Like, you're trying to. We're not talking about Michael Jordan. You win, Gilbert. So what you're saying is when you're talking about the first four years of Michael Jordan, when the team was bad.

So you're saying John's the best in the league? We're talking about a city in the middle. Michael Jordan wasn't the best person in the league. He wasn't winning. We're talking about he wasn't winning. Let me ask you this. The Michael Jordan, you don't want to talk about. Since we're speaking facts, right?

We're talking about the Michael Jordan nobody talks about. What is the poverty level in Memphis, Tennessee? We're not talking about the Michael Jordan. What is the poverty level in Memphis, Tennessee? So you think people are going to spend their hard-earn earned money to go watch a bullshit product they put on the floor? I doubt it, very seriously. We do a poll from Memphis, would you rather see the team play or would you rather see John Moran play?

I wanna see motherfuckers win that I'm paying my money for. 98%. 98%. I don't need somebody to win that I'm paying my money for. They can go see the team play regardless. It's either or not, they gonna go see the team. It doesn't matter who it is. I'm 98%. If I live in Memphis, Tennessee.

I'm going to anywhere. If I live in Memphis, Tennessee, I'm not paying my hard-earned money to go see the Memphis Grizzlies. They're not winning. I don't care who's on the team. But let's talk about Grizzlies attendance. So since 2010, I'm just going to read where they ranked in the NBA. 2010, they were 28th. 2011, they were 27th. 20th 2013. They were 19 2014. They were 20th 2015. They were 18 2016 They were 24th 2017. They were 23rd 2018. They were 28 2019

They were 26 20 they were 26 21. They were 20th 22. They were 22nd 23. They were 22 Because the size of their rearing up a Dead that don't mean anything to me, but we talked about attendance We got to look at all the ass in the seat Jersey sales all that merchandise ass is in the seats, man But all the other things that go into that 12 is the only Jersey they selling listen when Memphis was winning back there They wouldn't have all the rappers. They didn't have none of that shit. It was just regular They coming to see one player like Philly was coming to see okay Like ladies coming to see Kobe Bryant like that is 35 with that sorry. Yes

Yeah, it's like they was come to see me in Milwaukee you and you When the Lakers had them sorry ass teams teams and motherfucking sold out to see Kobe Bryant and the rest of them boys. Because you know why. It was Kobe and the rest of them boys. Because you know why. I guarantee this. Hell no.

I guarantee this. Sorry-ass. They don't ever see me. Who the fuck had a John Moran on them? No, I'm asking. Did they ever sell out? You a Lakers fan, right? Utah Jazz never sold out?

Yeah. LeBron would like your money. Sell out? So what do you think the wait list is? So you actually think there's a fucking wait list before now to get on the Memphis Grizzlies and take it over? No. Until I got a job.

So of course the Lakers are going to sell out no matter what. You can't keep comparing the best to the fucking worst, dog. You're talking about going to see, even if you paid your money, you don't want to go see Kobe in a... No, I'm going to see the nigga who's averaging 35 a game. Because I didn't pay for these fucking tickets already. Like, when Chicago was sold out for 10 years, nobody went. I didn't pay for these tickets already.

Nobody went? Them Chicago games wasn't sold out after Michael Jordan? We're talking about Los Angeles Lakers. We're talking about living in L.A., living in Chicago. We're talking about Memphis Grizzlies. When Michael Jordan left. So keep bringing him up. And they had the season sold out.

So you're just going to keep going up. They had him sold out. So win every argument. We're just going to go with the best. No, won't you let me say it? So when Jordan left, they sold out the next 10 years. No Michael Jordan. 10 years after him.

Michael Jordan. That means every seat was sold. So let me tell you. Nobody went to the game. So let me tell you, Michael Jordan. That team was bought. So let me tell you, real Michael Jordan. No one went to the game. So let me tell you, Michael Jordan. That ticket was bought. So let me tell you, real Michael Jordan. No one went to the game.

So this is a real. No one went. Are you listening to what I'm saying? I'm finna give you the Michael Jordan effect. Are you listening to what I'm saying? I'm finna give you the Michael Jordan effect. You're not even listening to what I'm saying. I'm finna give you the Michael Jordan effect.

I said, when Michael Jordan year, 98, those tickets were sold until 2008. When Michael Jordan was gone and the rest of the team was here. Those sorry-ass units. You spent your money already for the next 10 years. They already spent it. You didn't go. They already spent it. You didn't go? Living in Chicago to see the Bulls play.

You already spent it. Did they have a Kobe Bryant on their team? Oh. Did they have a Kobe Bryant on their team? So therefore, if the Lakers fans, if the Lakers was losing and I already paid my money for these season tickets, I'm going to go fucking see Kobe Bryant play. That's what the fuck I've been saying. And I'm not going to go see the Bulls play because they ain't got no Kobe Bryant.

But this is most. Exactly. And they live in a big city. Exactly. This is Los Angeles, dog. People want to be seen here. Don't nobody want to be seen in Chicago. Duh!

Don't nobody want to be seen in Chicago. Why would I? But let me give you the Michael Jordan effect. But let me give you the... So since you want to bring Michael Jordan up, since you want to bring Michael Jordan up, let me give you a Michael Jordan effect, right? We winning in Jersey.

Uh-huh. Right? We winning. We first in the East. We ain't sold out one game. Michael Jordan from the Washington Wizards show up. We sell out.

I'm sure. It's the Michael Jordan effect. He is not guaranteed. Listen. That's not what the conversation is. Yes, it is. You brought Michael Jordan into this. You brought him into this. I'm giving you the effect brought Michael Jordan into this. You brought him into this. So I'm giving you the effect

of Michael Jordan that you compare Michael Jordan and fucking John Morant. Can I finish my story? Can I finish my statement? Right? What Michael Jordan

are we talking about? When I brought him up. Michael Jordan period. Which one did I bring up? Michael Jordan period. The first three years. Michael Jordan period. The first three years. But I'm giving you the effect of Michael Jordan, period. The first three years. Michael Jordan, period. The first three years.

But I'm giving you the effect of Michael Jordan. Okay. The last. No, it doesn't matter when. No, it matters. From 83 when he got drafted to right now, the man is relevant. Right. Okay.

Do you agree with that? From 84. To right now as we fucking sit here at this goddamn table. Yes. Is Michael Jordan relevant? Has he been relevant since then? Yes So therefore the effect of Michael Jordan is greater than John Moran could ever fucking possibly be so you're saying so therefore for you

To bring him into this conversation. No, no, no, no, no, no, we so we had sold out one home game We first thing is we win. He was already great We're not I'm not talking about Michael Jordan six screens not I'm talking about One two three when they were sorry as fuck We didn't know Michael Jordan was gonna be my friend was the third talking about when he had 35 when he's average 35 as a rookie Michael Jordan when he averaged He broke his foot the second year. Then he averaged 37.

That Jordan that came on the rookie. So you're comparing that Michael Jordan to this John Moran. That's what I'm talking about. They have a bad team. You're out of your mind. That one player is selling tickets. You want to compare Michael Jordan to John Moran. You keep saying that Michael Jordan, dude.

I'm not talking about six rings Michael Jordan. No, we're talking about the first three years Michael Jordan. Then you keep saying that Michael Jordan, dude You said you talking about six rings Michael Jordan We're talking about the first time you're Michael Jordan then he broke his foot did Did John come in as a rookie and average 30? No, he's wicked here. Did he average 30? Nope Oh You said that like I meant something. You're talking about the worst shoe company after Josh Rookie years. After Josh Rookie years. The aura of those players at that third year. All right, so what about Derrick Rose? The aura of after year three, it ain't close.

Derrick Rose had a bigger impact than MJ his first three years. It ain't close. The aura after three years of Michael Jordan and John Redd is not close. What, the aura? It's not close. In the first three years. It's not close. The first three years with Michael Jordan, John Rant is not close. What? The aura? Is not close. In the first three years. Is not close. The first three years.

Take social media out of the fucking aspect of it. It's here. You can't take it out of the aspect of it. You can't take it out. It's here. So what about Derrick Rose? Popularity would know this. What about Derrick Rose? What about him?

First three years. He had more impact than MJ. His first three years. He was MVP his third year. And the Chicago Bulls. We're talking about the first three years. They want to use the Michael Jordan that we know now. You can't do that. Who? You brought him up.

I brought up the first three years. This is like saying I'm better than Kobe his first three years. Anybody can say that. We're going to play the first two. People can't say that. So what'd you say? Who can? Jordan was cooking year three, Gil. Not 37. That was third year. I know the fucking exact thing. He's tripping.

And what do John Morant do in his third year? John Morant's average is 27. And what else happened? I mean, he got in trouble. Nothing. Huh? He got in trouble. It don't matter. He got in trouble. It don't matter. Y'all trying to think y'all can just tear him down because he's a regular dude. We talking facts. His effect.

The fact of. You want me to tell you how big his impact is? That during the finals, they got to bring his name up. That's how big he is. During the NBA finals. They got to say, hey. Why did they bring his name up? Because the NBA finals was a.

Because the NBA finals was nothing. Why did they bring his name up? Because controversy sells. Because the NBA finals wasn't. Because controversy sells. Because the NBA finals was nothing. Why did they bring his name up here? Because controversy sells. Then why? Because they wanted to prolong his. You just heard niggas in here sweating like shit. Why? They wanted to prolong his name.

In the middle of the finals, why? No, he's the hottest nigga in the league. What do you mean why? Why? In the middle of the finals, that's the thing you need to talk about. Because controversy sells. A dude who ain't been here in damn four months. The face of the NBA, right?

Controversy sells. He's the face. Why are they bringing him up? Because controversy in damn four months. The face of the NBA, right? Why are they bringing him up? Because he's the face of the NBA. Because he's that big. Because Controversy's saying he's the hottest nigga in the league. He's hot. He's the hottest nigga in the league. No matter if you like it or not, he's the hottest nigga in the league.

They broke his name. They broke his name up in the middle of the finals. So we're talking first three years. Right now, what is everybody waiting for? Whoa, whoa, whoa. What is everybody waiting for? Job. What are they waiting for?

When Jago gets the spin. Final points. Final points. When Jago gets it. That's what everybody's waiting for. So we're talking about the first three years. So back it up. Back it up.

Back it up. When they were losing. They all went to see Michael Jordan. First three years of Michael Jordan career. They went to go see Michael. First three years of job-ranking career. Right? Or they. You just said. Right? What did Jordan do? Jordan first three years of Michael Jordan career. They want to go see Michael first three years job record, right? Are they?

You just said right my what did your Boy doing his third year and what did I do in his third? 37 30 and John was like, okay Tell a whole story The whole story who is better Michael Jordan who know tell the whole story whatever it was Michael Jordan? No, tell the whole story. Whatever it was, Michael Jordan. Whole story. Were they winning? Whole story. Was he selling out the seats? Whole story.

Yes. Whole story. Was he selling out seats on the team? And keep going. Keep going. Whole story. Keep going. Keep going.

No, keep now. The other part of it. Shoes were selling out? Flip the coin. So you just go omit all the shit that's happening. The point is- Oh, the Jive stuff. Yes, that's what I'm talking about. Other side of the coin. Flip the coin.

We're just out here sniffing on the scene. We don't, you know. Other side of the coin. Other side of the coin. So none of the stuff that's happened off the court is an effect on what we're talking about here. And this all started because of no trade clause. Let's go back to what I was saying. If John Morant gets suspended, when he gets suspended the first 30 games, we're going to look into that arena.

So is there year four he's going into? It don't matter. We're going to look at the effect when he's talking about you I guarantee you the day they say John Moran is about to play it's gonna be the line out the motherfucking building Can we not say the first three years and now we're talking about I say that okay? People at the game so you can keep moving the goalposts. Who? What do you mean? Are they going to be sold? There ain't no owls in here. Are they going to be sold out if John Moran is not there?

Are there going to be people at the game? Yeah, there's going to be people at the game. Watch this. Are they going to be sold out? That's the good question. No. You don't think so. When he is going to play, that one player is going to sell it out just like Allen Iverson did.

And just like the team that was before Todd did. Just like motherfucker Vince Carter did on bad teams. There's just certain players in the league that are bigger than life. Vince Carter played in Canada. There was nothing else for nobody else to go watch. Didn't he bring bottle servers to Toronto? Yes, he did. Okay, that's fine.

There's certain skills that a person – think about the names we're talking about. What do they have over everybody else? I get it. I get it. they have over everybody else? I get it I get it. Do you understand my point? I get it people not paying a hard-earned money to go see losing basketball dog She is a giant every city you done talked about those players those motherfuckers. Okay walking gods damn near jumping over motherfucking Jumping over people in the we want to see the mother to jump over. I don't give a fuck what that score is Vince Carter jumping over All-star starter. OK.

Jordan. Listen, gonna keep bringing him in. Just saying. And on that note, let's keep the show moving. Michael Vick, come on. Passionate debate guy. They coming. Passionate.

He gonna do something electrifying. Yeah, that's right. Michael Vick. Control the boat, man. I'm trying. Control the boat. But sometimes you just gotta let them cook. I'm just saying. You're shaking over here with the boat. God man. I'm trying to troll the boy. So how you just gotta let him cook

No That bottom court look like all wrapped like It looked like a BET award. Because there's a lot of rappers that's from Atlanta. It looked like a BET award. Because there's a lot of rappers that's from Memphis now. Hip hop awards. Because there's a lot of rappers that's from Memphis now. And who are they going to see? The Memphis Grizzlies.

No, they not. You know they going to see John Moran. I know one thing though. I never saw them niggas in there. I never saw them niggas in there. Because you know why? Because the motherfucking Memphis Grizzlies wasn't on TV. How about we see them?

Oh, no. They had their team. They were good. They had their the motherfucking Memphis Grizzlies weren't on TV They were good We went to the playoffs So the match it is the same situation They losing you think they'd be on fucking TV to think people want to see that shit. All right. Yeah, not a chance, bro But he's so excited. Bro, listen.

They had us playing on ESPN in Memphis. So I know one thing. But out of his mind. I know one thing. They ain't putting him on TV. I don't care. They definitely putting that nigga on TV. No, they not.

Not if they lose him. Not if they not compete. Not if they not compete. They can show highlights. I just know one thing. People see highlights. They're not putting that on ESPN. If John organized a go-karting trip for the Grizzlies team, he would invite Kenny Lofty Jr.

That's all I'm going to say. He wouldn't get an invite. I'm the Kenny Lofty Jr. of this squad. Without the Twisters. Don't say I'm hot about the go-karting. We barely fed her that shit. You're not hot about the go-kart. I like go-karts! You're not hot about the go-kart. That didn't even fit in. Y'all motherfuckers, that's... We barely fed her that shit. Niggas out here body shaming.

Barely fed. You can... On Al Gore's internet. I'm working, Gil, okay? You know I needed the exercise bike, but I love snacks. Y'all motherfuckers gonna have cheesecakes and cannolis and all types of shit here. Where's the pineapples? Where's the mangoes?

Can we get the fruit cart? But last thing we gotta talk about on this show, and that was how you transitioned later, Gemma. I had to let them cook. I appreciate y'all for rocking out. I appreciate y'all for being here. I appreciate y'all for being here. I appreciate y'all for being here.

I appreciate y'all for being here. I appreciate y'all for being here. I appreciate y'all for being here. I appreciate y'all for being here. I appreciate y'all for being here. I appreciate y'all for being here. Where's the pineapples? Where's the mangoes? Can we get the fruit cart? But last thing we got to talk about on this show, and that was how you transitioned later, Jim. I had to let them cook. I appreciate y'all for rocking out with us. Probably one of our most spirited discussions I think we've had on this show. Yeah, we got 8,000 people here cooking. We're going to get to that 10,000.

10,000 tomorrow. 10,000 tomorrow is our last show. You cannot dissuade these people. We're going to make Gil smoke the blunt, and then we're going to see what's really cracking. But we got to talk a little bit about Doc Rivers and James Harden. So Doc Rivers is on Bill Simmons' podcast. Recently has some interesting things to say about coaching James Harden.

I'm going to read them for you. I was going to read them in my Doc voice, but I've been hitting the vape pen. It was challenging, more because we were fighting two things. No, I'm fucking kidding. And not like visually fighting. It was like James is so good at playing one way. And the way I believe you have to play to win in some ways is different because it's a lot of giving up the ball, moving the ball, coming back to the ball. I would have loved to have him younger

when that was easier for him because giving up the ball and getting back the ball is hard. It's physical. It's exhausting. So it would have been interesting if I would have had him younger where he could have done that more. He went on to say, I thought James was playing perfect basketball. He was the point guard of the team. done that more. He went on to say, I thought James was playing perfect basketball. He was the point guard of the team. Oh, in the first half of the season, I thought James was playing perfect basketball. He was the point guard of the team. He was still scoring, but he was doing more playmaking than scoring.

Then in the second half, he started scoring more, trying to score more, and I thought we got stagnant in the times. I thought we changed. So Doc got booted. Harden may be out of Philly, but did Doc Rivers throw James Harden under the bus with those comments? Mm-hmm. Did he?

Absolutely. Threw him under the bus? The game has gamed threw him under the bus. I mean, we can literally see it. Yeah. We can literally just watch that it's one style, right? But he hasn't said anything that, like, Mikeael hasn't said or any other coaches to me. Like he's just saying like he has a way of playing.

He has this one way of playing. Yeah, and everybody knows his style. When you get him, you got him. You know what you're dealing with. Absolutely. What the fuck is you talking about, Doc? I knew he was that before you got him. Exactly.

What the fuck kind of shit is this? That's a cop out. That's a fucking cop out. Yeah, but you know every coach feels like, okay, maybe we could just get them like, you know, the team is different or, you know, you're trying to think of schemes. You don't know. You telling him to get off the ball. You tell him he should have got off the ball.

But you know, the difference between like that, like that and Kobe and Jordan, like they were willing passers. LeBron, they're willing passers. Like they know when to get off the ball. Like if you ever hear about them, how they became champions. Like if you ever hear anybody that played how they became champions, like if you ever hear anybody that played with James or anybody that played with Kobe or Mike, they always say they were willing, they were unselfish.

Speaker 2.: It's who you giving the ball to? Who you giving the ball to? Speaker 1.: I mean, who Kobe had to pass to? Speaker 2.: That's the thing. That's what Gil was saying the other day. It's like, Kobe had to get to 37 because it's like, who's going to pick up the slack on this other three? Speaker 1.: Yeah, but-

Speaker 2.: It's hard to say a man, even though it looks selfish, hard to say a man's selfish. Between 2010? 10 assists every fucking, you know, I mean the way he plays it's selfish for winning because it doesn't allow anything else. Thank you. Anybody gets 10 assists. The assists, okay, we get it. It's 10 assists, right?

But the style you're playing is very selfish because what ends up happening is you're one-on-one every play and you make 50 passes. But because of the style, it's 50 passes to people who are just going to shoot. There's no offense, right? So it's a selfish way people who are just going to shoot. There's no offense. Right?

So it's a selfish way of playing, and you can't win with it because he's going to go down as one of the greatest shooting guards, small forward, without no real offense of skill. Like he's great at this. One thing. Not backdoor, not posting up, not flaring, not moving without the ball, no popping that he has no offense. He has this yeah, that's this way of scoring which is you know, it's like this with this is an assassin. He's an assassin. No, no, it's an assassin. Let me tell you what he's killing you.

What it is you contracted for the tell you what it is man. It's a manipulation of the game though. That's just call it what it is. But you contracted for this. Let me tell you what it is, man. It's a manipulation of the game, dog. Let's call it what it is, man. He gonna go into his thing, either I'm gonna score that thing or I'm gonna throw it to you so I can get an assist. Five seconds on the shot clock or something. That's the same. Like, Chris Paul, one of the best point guards of whatever in floor generalship in people's

opinion, when they sign on to play together my first it's never gonna work James and Chris Paul are the same player. Yeah People don't want to say they are great talent pick and roll But we gonna manipulate this thing dribble that bitch pick and roll come up come off the pick and roll again snake you come back Oh shoot it three. That's what I'm saying. It's fluff. You know what I'm saying? That's fluff. But yeah, let me, No, no, no, you're right. If you wanted to,

you broke your man down religiously. You wanted to get that motherfucker every time. Oh, here you go. Take that. Here you go. 10 times. Here you go. Thank you.

Here you go. Gotcha. I get it. You could, because you're one of the most prolific scorers they're seen. If you chose the, that's, you know what I'm saying? But that's just the game is,

it's funny in a way that like people, where people pay attention to what people idolize in the game and we all hoopers be like, good, but you know what with us yeah hey is he low-key saying he's in our shape no it's just when he said it takes effort a lot of effort oh that was seems like he's like I don't think he's. He's not the best. I don't think he's. It's like he's saying he's not like Steph Curry and play. He can pass and move. Move and get back.

He's going to get tired. It's like kind of saying that. Don't play hard. But why not? It's just kind of saying that. Don't play hard. But you already knew that. If ain't nobody ever made him get off of it and have to come off a down screen,

that ain't what he do. You know what I'm saying? That's Dan Tony though. But that ain't what he do. Let me read that part of the quote again. I would have loved to have him younger when that was easier for him because giving up the ball and getting the ball is hard. It's physical, it's exhausting.

It would have been interesting if I would have had him younger where he could have done that more. He wouldn't have did it then. He could have got extra points getting the move and off the then. He wasn't getting a move and off the ball. That's what he's saying. He had opportunities. This man averaged 40 for a month. He wasn't getting the ball and giving it up and getting it back.

He was going into his thing, man. At the top of the key. You know how many players could average 40 in a month in the league if they just had the ball? You know what I'm saying? If guys had the mindset how they have in the summertime when you're not looking over your shoulder, you know, a lot of guys would be averaging 40 in a month. Yeah, like I believe that because the way the game is being played in if you have that

place or just your style. Yeah, like a lot of guys average 40 over three months. If Eddie didn't come in, that's crazy. Oh, three months. Three months. If Eddie didn't come in and put in crazy. Over three months. If Eddie didn't come in and put in Princeton told you, Gil, go.

I mean, Kobe would have... That Gil, bro. Mike, just go. Kobe just go for three months. LeBron. But what does that mean? He's very skilled at that one thing. He's deliberate at that. But the problem is, if you don't let him at that one thing. He's deliberate at that.

But the problem is, if you don't let him do that one thing, he's not usable. But we not playing basketball. Yeah, but we don't know. But we don't know if he's usable because he's never tried. It's not basketball. No, because we see him when you're doing something else. Like I've seen him, it'll be half court and he'll just be sitting by the half court. Standing right there watching Dylan B go to work. Yeah watch or they want to post up for Tobias Harris

He not doing To try to get you There's no coach that put in like, all right, we're going to do pass and we're going back door. And we're going to swing you through, try to post you up there, get it at the mid post and then boom, make that motherfucker run a little bit. Try something. Yeah, don't run.

But then it's going to be a straight drop for him. That's what coach did for him instead of doing what you say. They just go run away. But that's what I said. We're gonna do something. But try to score somewhere else. Like I want to put you closer to the basket, do something like it just does that make does that make James like like as far as intelligence like you know, making your guy move a lot more get you more opportunities.

We can't say he don't have basketball IQ because he has manipulated that motherfucker to the point where it's perfect for him. No, I'm saying I'm saying to'm saying to be able to cover the manipulation. To be able to cover the manipulation. What he talking about? We figured out this nigga James been manipulating the situation this whole time. So for James, it's like, nigga, you know back doors and shit help you get open shots. Why are you not doing that?

That's what he's saying. Because I need to. He's like, man, you lazy. Because I- Because you lazy. It hurts. Because I can do this right here. You got the ball. No, you got the ball in the wing I threw it to you and I want it back instead of me cutting through I can do this To one I'm not even gonna lie. I've seen this dude right here. This is the half court, right?

They ain't nobody right here. He has them just like this, like, throw it, just throw it. I'm like, man, just backdoor the man, get the ball in. He's just sitting there like, ah, spin out, like, spin out, fake it like you're going backdoor, do something to make this. But he'd rather just hold you off because it's the easiest thing. But that goes back to my Greek the freak take, take right where everybody got mad at I said, you know Yes He's had success

But you know we can see that he can he needs to get better at this and that right same thing with James Yeah, yeah, you know you average 40 for three straight months. You got an MVP. You got scoring titles You need to change the game. You need to add more things. And people are like, well, he, you didn't score better than him. It's like, that's the problem with, when you're successful, you don't see anything else. You just say, if they can't stop me doing this,

when you gotta add, I gotta add. Yeah, I agree. Wait, so you don't think Giannis added? He has, but- Like, you don't think Giannis understand basketball? No, no, no, I think that's- He does, but still, if teams get back in transition defense on Yonis, it's gonna Just be honest. They wall up be big. Did you play a big lineup?

It's gonna be tough. He's won a champion I think he has listen. I'm a big Yonis family. I've seen the development. I was I was there a year to yeah I seen the growth and everything that he's done to become what he is now. But to Gilber's point, when teams have made him do something different, when the teams have had the personnel to make him do something different. He still exceeded. If James Harden wins the championship next year doing the same style, he's still exceeded. No matter what you throw at Giannis.

Giannis don't need that. Hold on. So let me ask you. No matter what y'all throw at Giannis. Okay, I can't make free throws. Okay, I'm going to go. We're not saying that. He plays the game.

We're not. Listen, I'm the biggest Giannis fan there is. No, no, no. For sure. I'm not taking anything off his plate. For sure. But to the evolution of your game. Individually.

That's what he's saying. That's what Gary's saying. I'm saying he don't need nothing. He don't care about individual. He just cares about the game. But my thing is the evolution of the game. You don't think having a mid-range jump shot or actual real post up, you don't think that's important?

For him, it's not important when he can just get to the rim. It might not be important for him. There you go. It might not be important for him. Individually, he don't think that it's important for him because it's in the team and how the team is putting him in. Okay, so what's the difference between James? You don't win. I don't win.

You don't win. So if he wins, he can impose his will to get the buckets. He doesn't win. You don't win. You don't win. So if he wins it. Giannis can impose his will to get the buckets. He doesn't win. He can impose his will. If James win a championship next year, do our takes change? Yes. Why does our takes change? Because he wins a championship.

You have to win it because it shows that. Which is rare. Well, winning a championship, you have to win a championship. Wait, hold on. Hold on. If we consider him selfish and lazy right now and next year starts. But he's not going to win a championship. Wait, hold on. If we consider him selfish and lazy right now and next year starts. But he's not going to win a championship next year. But if he wins a championship doing the same thing, our stance has changed because that's the problem.

We think championship is the solver, not realizing. Maybe the team just got better. No, maybe you just got better. You understood what you needed to do. But nothing changed. So if they got – Giannis Sting did change. He started shooting three-pointers with more confidence.

He went to the free throw line. They said he couldn't make free throws. He went 10 out of 10 or 8 out of 8 in the championship game in game six. I mean, I had 50 in game six. I think his field goal percentage went down. I think his free throw percentage went down this year. When? His mid-range.

Giannis. I had 50 in the championship game, and they told me I couldn't make free throws. And I went 8 free throw percentage went down this year. When? His mid-range. I have 50 in the championship game and they told me I couldn't make free throws and I went 8 for 8, not 10 for 8. And then I came back next year, my percentage went down because I'm dealing with injury. I'm pretty sure Shaq had a great free throw. I just gave him

a little snippet about what we were talking about just now about Giannis' evolution of the game, right? The way the evolution of the game, right? The way, the evolution of the game, right? Mm-hmm. Do you remember when San Antonio

played Cleveland in the playoffs? Yep. How did San Antonio guard LeBron James? Well, LeBron had, I mean, was he just going under?

I mean, so they're going under the pick and rolls and made him do what? Shoot jumpers. And what did LeBron do? Start working on his shot. He what yeah, he worked on what? That part of it cuz yeah teams like shit. We just gonna go under so the evolution of the game

Told the way the San Antonio Spurs played LeBron James like LeBron. I need to work on his Jimmy You know I'm saying and I need to get this thing down to a point where they can't play me that way. We don't feel, and I'm a big Giannis fan, that Giannis is there yet in that part of his evolution of his game. He's won a championship, yes, taking nothing from that. But the evolution of what he can become as a player, if teams take certain aspects away from you that you do well, what can you go to other than that? I know. I know.

I'm going to rebound. I'm going to get on this defensive end. I'm going to get this and I'm going to still be, so it's not going to look like I ever failed off. But the scoring, we're talking about the scoring aspect. He going to do all of that, dog. We're going to do all, LeBron did all that with Cleveland when San Antonio was going up. They got swept.

That nasty Cleveland thing was there for four games. They got swept. They weren't even supposed to be there. Why do you think they got swept? They weren't even supposed to be there. But the way they played the best players, what I'm saying, dog, for evolution of the game and changing your game to be what we're talking about with James, but James has never had to.

Mid-range pull-up. What I'm saying is. No. No, no, what I'm saying is. Because he hit the numbers he got right now without one. That's the problem. That's what. You're not getting better because you're doing something that no one can stop.

No, no, no, no. I'm not saying. I'm not saying. That's why James Harden has got better because no one can stop him. But Giannis has actually won MVPs and a championship. James has won MVP too. He ain't won no championship. What if he wins a championship next year?

What the. Them changes that he don't have no. Let's say he got Giannis over there and they win the championship. Nothing changes him. It's only going to please you and your preference though Gil. It's only going to please you and your preference of him as a player. You prefer that he has a jump shot to make his game look more well rounded for you. I don't need him to have a 10-shot for me.

No, it's not because I have a different preference than you. It's not the preference. It's not the problem. It's you. You prefer something different. You prefer something different. You prefer something different. iPhone 1 was perfect.

Your what? iPhone 1 was perfect, but we got 20 more. That's because they keep buying the difference. No, they don't approve girl. They just give you the same phone over and over again I got a fucking one. My shit. Take a picture. That's a picture. Don't look the same picture, man. No, you don't know if you're saying no, he's great at what he's doing. He can improve at what he's great at going to make a layup. Yes, Duncan.

I sit every single time. Yes, getting to 98 shit every single time. Yes, getting to 98% field goal percentage. Yes, getting better in your field goal percentage and shooting two. You don't got to go shoot threes. You don't have to all of a sudden go do threes because it's a category to field. Why does he shoot that category? We get 100 at the category we already good at. So because we can't stop him at making layups,

what that means in the summer, he just goes and keeps trying to make layups. No, he doesn't. He's doing free throws now. Every year. No, he's shooting free throws, Gil. He's shooting free throws, Gil. Every summer, this is all he wants.

No, free throws. Until I can make all of them. Free throws. Until I can make all of these, this is what I'm going to keep doing every summer. Because they can't stop me. They can't stop me. So I'm just going to keep every fucking summer.

Seven years of this bullshit. No, he definitely wasn't a jumper. Just's gonna keep every fucking suck seven years of this bullshit No, he does like you shoot jumpers. I guess you jumpers a hundred years of this bullshit You don't know what he's doing. We're watching the game. It's his offense that's got him doing what he's doing. It's the offense. It's the offense. It's the offense they run. It's the offense they run.

How many posts did I ask for on post-ups? Y'all ran an offense where you could display your skill set, Gil. I posted up. Yeah, yeah. You displayed your- I played mid-range. You displayed your- I played iso. Yes. I did free throws.

Your coach allowed it. I did free throws. The only thing I couldn't do was motherfucking floater. Your coach allowed it, Gil. The only thing I couldn't do was a floater. Yeah. That's the only thing I needed to work on. So I can say, I didn't do a floater.

But what's the point of all that? We're saying get better. Like, the first year, I didn't know how to post up until Gary Payne was fucking me up in the post. Then I had to learn how to post up. So to your point, and I just told him this, he heard this. In the game, we're talking about Giannis. If I could game plan to make Giannis shoot more jump shots than layups,

I don't think consistently that he's worked on that enough to be able to beat me. If we give him 12 layups and four jump shots, we gonna fucking lose. If I make him shoot 12 jump shots and four layups, I like my chances that night. That's all I'm saying. Could he make five other eight other 20 could I'm a if I'm a betting man He's worked on it. So yes, if he can I say can I say can I say what I'm saying though? No, I'm just saying this is what look Giannis Giannis is gonna be put in situations where he's picking rolling picking rolling picking rolling

Offensive reb, where he has an advantage to get points, where they don't have to have a set done for him, he don't have to do no one-on-one, anything. That's where he gets all of his points. And then they get fast break, fast break opportunity. He bringing the ball up. Giannis, we don't really want to run no plays. We want you where the defense is offset and we can get you going downhill where you can

score the ball. Now, everything else y'all talking about is like playoff basketball where we have court and John has got to hit this shot. It's like he don't got to hit that shot. He don't got to hit. He just got to draw two and kick. Why do you think Blake Griffin, Amar, why do you think they had problems later on in their career when the athleticism went out? Because they couldn't do what?

I'm here. I'm here. Yeah, I couldn't do what? Couldn't I jump now? Why they couldn't do what? Couldn't I jump now? Because they wasn't being stopped. Pick and roll slash ah.

Pick and roll slash ah. Right now. Right now. And then what happened when they couldn't do it, they didn't practice on anything else. No, they wasn't working on any of that shit as is. It was natural. They wasn't working on that shit every day like that.

That was Boobie Miles walking in there. Now I'm got to work out. I don't got to lift shit. I'm him. That's how niggas was walking in that shit, nigga. What you mean, man? That's how niggas was playing. But when you put the work in, nigga, you're at that position you do that. So what happens? I'm not saying that he don't have to work better period

I'm saying what he's doing now Niggas can't stop that shit. I know yes Nobody was talking Michael Jordan, but he created motherfucking mid-range jump shots. He created a face. He's more known for fadeawaying. His signature is fadeaway. That's Michael. Michael Jordan's signature is the fadeaway jumper.

But nobody was stopping him from dunking. He just realized I need to evolve my game. Oh my Lord. He didn't slow down. He slowed himself down. I need to tell a fairytale story now. I'm like that. Michael Jordan just all of a sudden said I need to add a fadeaway that he just woke up and was like, I'm going to just put the fadeaway on. So it wasn't no defense. Wasn't no get your ass beat. Wasn't no none of this plan. Oh, okay. Okay. So it wasn't. So it wasn't. So wouldn't know get your ass beat. What no none of this plan? Oh, okay Okay, so it wasn't so what so he didn't just wake up my just wake up So now you're gonna be in his ass, but then he had to develop you make my point. So therefore you make

It sounded so bad like this was a but you're making my advances game, but you're making my point Yannis hasn't been forced to do anything. Why hasn't he? Michael Jordan was still leading the league in scoring and stuff. Because you haven't exposed Giannis' weaknesses to be something he needed to change. He come in and do the same thing every year. Exactly. He comes in and do the same thing every year.

And he's won a championship. He's won two MVP's and won a championship. He's taking more time. He's He's won. He's won two. He's taken. He's taken more. He's taking more. He's getting better. I'll say he was getting better. All right.

Let me ask you. Let me ask you this. But what if Yannis? What if Yannis can post up? Mm-hmm. And I saw at the elbow. How does this game change with the game? He already has put him in the back of the post.

He has real legit post up move and you get him at the elbow and he can I mean change I mean opens up the floor for a lot of more Oh, what was up a lot of people a lot more opportunities because he's not gonna down for sure Okay, that's 15 footer right you're talking about coming off right here elbow and he not gonna like a little bit. Yeah. Yeah How much better does he become I? Mean shit, that's like he that damn they're averaging probably 40. So right now he's here great, right? He wants to keep him here cuz he's doing it. I'm saying add a little bit more. Where does he go again? Almost after like 40. Okay. There we go. Easy. I'm just trying to add something to your boy

I know you listen. I know your boots is good. I'm gonna put some spikes on it. So when you kick a nigga he good The boots is good the way they are just trying to put some spikes on it so when you kick a nigga, he good. I just look at the boots is good the way they are. I'm just trying to add some spikes on it so when you kick him. It's like boxing. He got a nice jab. Mm-hm. A jab ain't enough. They gonna need some more in that toolbox to get this done.

I'm just one of the people that's like, listen. He's great at what he doing. No matter how great you are, you can always improve. That's what we're always taught. Always improve. You got to dissect your game. I know I average 35 dunking, but they might come back with a plan. Let me go ahead and add a little floater in it.

Let me add this. Let me add that. That's what we're supposed to do to be who we are. No, I agree. I'm not going to wait until someone stops me before I add something. I'm not going to wait until someone stops me before I add something. I'm already going. Like, when Kobe was shooting all left hands just in case he hurt his right hand one day. When he hurt it?

I've been working on this one. Good luck. Even when he didn't hurt it, they ran that. They would just run the pistol play. They kicked that thing up. The guy cut it off. He boom, boom, boom, went. He getting ready to shoot that thing with his right.

I'm all on top of it. He shot that bitch off the glass with his left. I Don't do that again perfect perfect Practice on it before it even became an issue. That's all I'm saying. So look we're gonna talk a lot about this on tomorrow show We got one more day left. Y'all have one more chance chat y'all been lazy get us over 10k So the moment we all been waiting for but now it's time for the last segment of the show I'm not gonna say my favorite anymore because y'all provided some great moments

in this show today. Mostly fans. We messed up all your topics. Yeah, we did. Did that shit on purpose? Oh no. Took up all your time. Joke's on you because I'm just moving up to tomorrow.

So you saved me some work tonight. I don't gotta be up till three in the morning wondering what y'all doing. Wondering how y'all evening went went while I'm slaving away on topics. As soon as it's over, we'll forget what we said. I said, y'all done said what? That was that whole Detroit. I had people hit me like, what are you talking about? I remember what he said about Detroit.

What did I say about Detroit? I ain't never been- A lovely city, I might add. Fine people. Fine, upstanding human beings. So, first question is from Bridget Faison. Will you be surprised if Kyrie plays for the Suns? Him and KD reunite. I'd be surprised. Yeah, I would. I would.

Yeah. That would be surprising. You think, we need to have KD on the show, too. I know he's somewhere in the area. He always lurking. They're both somewhere around here. But, I mean, yeah. If I'm Kevin Durant. I know he's somewhere in the area. He always lurking. They both somewhere around here, but I mean, yeah. If I'm Kevin Durant, I'm not signing up for that again. But what's the friendship like?

Wasn't he like friends? Like it was close though. Okay, that's, but this has been, we can remain friends. I don't think none of these niggas are friends. We can remain friends. I think it's just, we working out together. Brotherhood, cap. Like the brotherhood cap.

I think that's all cap. That brotherhood cap shit is cap the Brotherhood cap that think that's all cap that Brotherhood We cool like that, I mean I just why because we shooting and we working out every summer That's it, but you could be friends with a lot of people work out with them But then you actually ought to really work with them. Yeah, but are we kicked like what the like a friend man? Yeah, like this part of it is strange. Yeah, the business part. Yeah, I are we kicked like with the like a friend man? Yeah, like the business part of it is strange. Yeah, the business part. Yeah, I think my work friends, you know, yeah, it's like, let's get all the work cameras

so they can feel like you know, we working together. We work and it's home. Yeah. You got other personalities to deal with now different personalities. Yep. The book and for sure you are the people saying so I just Alright, second question. All right. Second question. Final question from Chris Lewis.

For all you guys. Did your pregame routine change once you got to the NBA? Yeah. I don't think I had a pregame. I'm about to say. I didn't have one until I was in the league. You damn sure didn't. I'm about to say.

I didn't have one until I got there. You're not at all. I went from high school to Europe. Yeah. You didn't have no pregame. I didn't have one until college. Hell no. No.

I didn't have no pregame. Yeah. This was a different time. Yeah. And I spent four years there. I had no pregame routine. Yeah. Who was your joint?

Becky. Huh? Wait, what'd he say? Wait, what'd he say? What'd he say? Cut! I thought I heard him say Becky. I thought I was like, that was your pregame.

I love this shit. I love this shit. I was like, that was your pre-con. Rashad, what's wrong? I love this shit. I love this shit. What the fuck was y'all? Y'all didn't have no... I was waking up at... You know, I had rookie duty, so I had to go put everybody's shit on the thing. This is college!

We talking about NBA. Before we got to the league, what was your routine? You came from high school. You damn sure didn't have no pregame ritual. I lived in different times. I lived in different times. I lived in different times. Beat that gym.

I won. Beat that gym. These niggas still in bed and still sleeping. 1250. Beat that gym. Before games? I had a hell of a career. Don't tell them that was before games.

I had a hell of a career. Your legs was cool. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine hell of a career. Hell of a career. They put my jersey in the wrap. You know, you always heard the year I left your legs, right? So you just never did it. Like I always just assume you go mess your legs up.

So I was you assume wrong. You assume wrong My nigga. Ha ha! Ha ha! You missed a lot of numbers, boy, for no reason, nigga. Get your fuel up. That would have helped the nerves, some of them nervous games. Yeah, you would get all that nervous energy out of there. What's wrong with you, man?

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