Gil's Arena - Gilbert Arenas Reacts to The Rudy Gobert Punch

Episode Date: April 11, 2023

Gilbert Arenas Reacts to The Rudy Gobert Punch on this LIVE episode of Gil's Arena. The Gils Arena crew breaks down the fight with Kyle Anderson and The Minnesota Timberwolves before discussing a range of NBA topics including, The Play in Tournament, NBA MVP Race and Lebron James and The Lakers. Gil's Arena is NOW LIVE. Every Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Brought to you by Underdog Fantasy: Sign up here for a deposit match up to $100 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Because I'm looking at it. No, I mean. Suspend them for the first game of the regular season next year. I really don't believe in penalizing my players when it could cost us something. Like, I'm not, this is my team, right? So why am I going to penalize them in the most important time? Like, this doesn't hurt Rudy, but it hurts you overall.

Because if you don't make this game, you lose, because you're going to lose to the Lakers. And then you lose the next one when he comes back. You just look stupid, right? Has nothing to do with Rudy at this point. So, you know, the punch, I I mean it was a punch in the shoulder. I mean- Try to give him a dead arm.

So it's like you're penalizing a guy for nothing that really happened, just a little distraction on the game y'all won. But you can't, but you gotta set some type of rules though. I set it after. Huh? I set it after the season. After the season? To find him, playoff check or something, but I'm not suspending you.

Yeah, but if you do that, and then the next guy does it, then what? So you just go around punching guys? Sometimes you got to make your shit known. That's tough. We do it anyway in practice and shit, right? So I guarantee there's bigger fights in practice than that was right there, and I'm pretty sure you never suspended him. Yeah, but it's on camera, though.

I mean, it's on camera though. It's on camera. 20,000 people saw that. It's different. Like practice, okay, the Draymond thing don't come out on camera, then we won't say nothing about it. But to see that, you gotta have some type of rules. Yeah, see I don't give a fuck about no optics.

From reading in the paper, ooh they got in a fight to seeing... But then you'll have guys like just punching. Then guys just going to be punching guys. You know what I'm saying? This is like saying, yo, hey, man, I messed with a fat chick last night, right? The concept of what I said. You're like, all right, cool. And then there's a video or a picture of the fat chick.

Then you react, right? Nah, that's not how that works. I already told you it was a fat chick, right? Obese. You know what I mean? So you can't really try to get me because you now see the evidence. So a fight is a fight. I mean, some people like big girls.

A little punch in the arm. Big women need love too, Gil. Punch in the arm. 25 grand, 50 grand, 75 grand. We don't discriminate on Gil's arena. We embrace all of you. Just love yourself. As long as you love yourself, that's the most important thing.

Man. Just love yourself. As long as you love yourself, that's the most important thing. So Kyle Anderson allegedly called Gobert a bitch repeatedly, allegedly. I'll start with you, Brandon. How many times have you let a teammate call you a bitch before you swing on them? Never. I mean, one? One time. So it's not like it can't be a repeated thing?

Bitch. Bitch-ass nigga. It's like terms. What's worse though? To be called a bitch or a bitch ass nigga in contact? Man, stop acting like a bitch ass nigga. That's worse. That's more hurtful?

Yeah. I mean, I think any time us as black men, we talk in front of other races and we call each other out of names, it's going to go there. I think it's more embarrassing. And it's ego. I think for us, I mean, I don't know. Everybody's different. But for us, I know we're going to get hot. How many times did you let a teammate call you a bitch before you get the strap?

I don't think I've ever got called one. No teammates called you a bitch before? No, I was usually the one that was verbally abusive. Oh, man. I was all, bitch ass ain't getting the goddamn ball. Oh, nope, nope. So bitch ass is like bitch, bitch ass, bitch ass. I think bitch ass is fine.

No, it depends on how you say it. I always say stop acting like one. And then they try to use, so you calling me one? If you're acting like it. But one did show up to my hotel room. I called Brendan Haywood, you know, a bitch. Get your bitch ass in there. I started doing all that.

Get it off the glass and started doing all that extra shit. And then, you know, chilling at the hotel room and got one of those. And it's like, yo. It's like, yo, this is B. Wood. What's up, man? He's like,. Yeah open the door so we can talk talk That'll sound funny. I get the fuck away from my door No, no, no, we need to go ahead and talk about what happened man. I'm calling security brother. I call it secure I'm not opening this though, so you can whoop my ass and no one can help me

So you didn't open the door? Hell no. Why don't you put the lock on? Click, click. Security. Call security down and everything. Security. Yeah, got a big black dude in the hallway trying to fight.

So we talked earlier about Draymond Green, his situation with Jordan Poole. You know, he's no stranger to stealing on a teammate. But he got petty after the Gobert incident. He tweeted, insecurity is always loud. you know he's no stranger to stealing on a teammate but he got petty after the Gobert incident he tweeted insecurity is always loud now this is the same thing that Gobert tweeted after video leaked to Draymond One Piece and Jordan Poole but Draymond went on his pod also said

he respected Gobert for sticking up for himself so for both of y'all do Gobert's actions hurt or help the Timberwolves in the long run listen let's just say this. I don't think it changed Kyle's attitude towards him. No.

It don't because you went on Twitter to basically apologize for throwing the punch. Bitch. Right? That's what they did. He's probably reading like, this bitch. Right? This twit. Right.

So it hurts because you lose a defensive player, right? You lose a defensive player. You lose a big man going up against LeBron James, Andy Davis. So, you know, when you're talking about, like, playing game and the most important time, yes, it actually does hurt. Okay. I mean, I think it hurts when they made the trade. I think they've been hurting.

So this is what you get. The Draymond thing going back at Rudy. I mean, I think it hurts when they made the trade. I think they've been hurting. So this is what you get. The Draymond thing going back at Rudy, I mean, you know, that's just how it is. You know, we petty. So, you know, you throw stones, somebody's going to throw stones more. But I think it started from the trade. They should have never traded him over there. They gave up a lot of assets.

Yeah, they did. And you're seeing what's happening now with all that. And just everybody out there who didn't see the Gobert tweet, he got a lot of us blocked. So a lot of us couldn't see it anyway. So somebody took a screen grab. I was doing some questionable Gobert videos back in the day. You got blocked? Yeah.

See? But that's not like a big deal because it's everybody. Listen, Kay Anderson was right then. Bitch. Come on, man. Come on. Listen, K Anderson was right then, bitch. Come on, man. Come on. You're an NBA player. All this sensitivity and blocking.

Just mute. But I'll be blocking people. Come on. I'll be blocking people. How sensitive do you got to be? I'll be blocking people because they talk crazy. You're light-skinned. I know.

Light-skinned. And French. Makes sense. But Gil, good reason though because then I'll find their address if they keep talking wild. It's pull-up mode. That's all you do. I can afford to do it now. Now you see why you don't need to block.

I'm not paying for a size 5. I can't take connecting flights into some of these cities these people live in if it's a direct shot, with some of them being hubs that aren't supported by direct flights. Just pull up. You don't need to block them. Pulling up to Temecula and all that goodness on Christmas. You go to Temecula and all that goodness on Christmas. You go to Temecula on Christmas, that means you really want to fight.

But we have some legendary cooking to cap off the NBA season. So let's show them some love with a very special hibachi time. Pick it up! We need theme music for these. We need a video of me shooting or something. Yeah, for sure.

Like us hitting shots or some shit. Like all of us. I mean, not you, though. All of us hitting shots. Did you see the screens I was setting? Did you see the screens? You sound like an ex-teammate. I said, all the screens all the time.

To open up shots for you. Y'all not appreciative of that shit. But let's start with LeBron and these Lakers. LeBron capped off year 20 in legendary fashion. Dropped 36-6-6 in a win over the Jazz's JV team. They had Kelly Olenek, though, in their defense. But, you know, after hitting

a big three late in the game, which we'll see first. We'll just watch him cook a little bit. I don't even know who he gave a bucket to, but whatever. It counted. Look at, oh, JTA grill sandwich. Look at it, look at it. But here's the one right here. Here it goes. Oh, from the crypto.com arena logo. There it is.

Crown me. Crown him. And that's one of them like big head crowns. He didn't go, he went. Y'all seen them big ass hats? That's one of them joints. So what did y'all think about LeBron crowning himself after the Lakers locked up the seven seed?

Because a lot of people on the internet were hating, were saying, why would you do that? Why would you do that? Why would you do that? Why would you do that? Why would you do that? Why would you do that? Why would you do that? Why would you do that?

Why would you do that? Why would you do that? Why would you do that? Why would you do that? Why would you do that? Why would you do that? Y'all seen them big-ass hats? That's one of them joints. So what did y'all think about LeBron crowning himself after the Lakers locked up the seventh seed? Because a lot of people on the internet were hating, were saying, why would you do that after a seventh seed and whatnot? I think it was more reflective of year 20, still cooking, started the season 2-10, got that seventh seed, never happened before if it was an old playoff model.

So what did y'all think, though? I mean, the resume speaks for itself, right? If Jordan would have did that when he played for the Wizards, I mean, I don't think anybody would have questioned it. Nobody would have questioned this one year. I mean, his resume speaks for itself. So if he want to crown himself after every bucket, I mean, do it. I mean, after the year they had, up and down year, I mean, going through trades and all

the ups and downs, injuries and things like that. So like you said, year 20, who he is, I'm going to keep crying to myself too. Because this might be it. So this might be my last time in the playoffs. You never know, or anything. So right now I'm going to get it off, breaking the record this year doing all this. So yeah, crown me. And he's rich.

Crown. And he's a billionaire. And he's rich. Crown. And he's a billionaire. And he's a billionaire. I mean, at this point, if I'm him during the playoffs, you know, every time I go to the bench, I just put a crown on. We got the Rashad. We rock the Rashad. So Rashad was ahead of the curve with the actual crown. Let's keep it real.

Let's talk about the Lakers. Fans were complaining because they had a couple of open roster spots. They felt like we needed another big. Winyah Gabriel, no disrespect to the man, with all due respect, let it be known, like Isaiah Thomas would say. But he wasn't really getting it done in that spot. So they signed Tristan Thompson. They also signed Shaq Harrison at guard just to add some depth. So what do y'all think about the Tristan Thompson signing and would you have made that move

if you were the Lakers? I like it. You know, him and LeBron have a rapport. You know, I call him T.T. He knows his role, right? He's going to go out there, rebound, block shots, be a big body. And, you know, when you're in the playoffs and you're thinking about at some point you might face Jokic, you need all the big bodies that you can possibly get, not offensively, but just more defensively.

I mean, it's a good pickup. I mean, like you said, LeBron in them does have a history. But, I mean, there were other guys out there. I mean, you know, you had Dwight Howard, Boogie. So, you know, there are other guys that has put on Laker uniforms that, you know, do know that system and everything too with it. So, but we'll see, you know, we'll see. I mean, the playoffs is about, you know, getting buckets too.

So, you know, you're going to have to, you know, do it all. No, he ain't going to do that. Well, yeah. Do something. Well, do something. Do something to get out the, you know, first round, you know. First round? Do you know who we playing?

Yeah, Memphis. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, we got that. We're going to talk about that a little later in the week. Okay. We're going to talk about that a little later in the week. I agree with you, Brandon.

When you look at somebody like Dwight and what he did to Joker in the bubble, does he make boneheaded plays? Yes. But he's a big Debo type, and we've already seen him in action. A couple years removed out in Taiwan right now. Boogie Lakers brought him in for a workout. I don't know what they saw in that workout, but they decided that Tristan Thompson was the move.

I think with Tristan, he's never been injured. No major injury. They probably worked him out. Probably still looks like he's in shape. Him or Dwight would have been my first two choices. But when you talk about Dwight, it's more of the experience, did they have a great experience when they were together? So we don't know all that stuff that happens on the line.

And one of Chiv's. The chemistry. It's just the chemistry. Just the people getting along. He was smacking asses with towels in the shower or something? What you think? No, you know him and AD got into it on the bench. You know what I mean?

So it's like we don't really know. It's all there. But he brought that fire out of Anthony Davis. Brought that championship. I believe that too, though. Was that the championship year? That wasn't the championship year. When he got that argument?

That was the next year. Oh, the next year, yeah. Well, close enough. All right. So Lakers face the Timberwolves tonight in the 7-8 playing game. Who winning? Are you sure? Are you sure?

The Lakers are notorious for playing down to their competition. Jazz took them to OT a few games ago. Barely beat them this next time around. You got Cat, Anthony Edwards, Kyle Anderson trying to ref for light skinned is far and near. Mm-hmm. Bring honor back to our. They just lost two defensive players. One guy who actually played great defense against LeBron. Yeah, he was. Broke his hand at halftime punching a wall. And then you lose your rim protector. A wall. Why not just put a big ass club on his hand like they do football play in a wall the team at a water punch the wall just to let you

know like this I don't want to call it man stupid but I know there's a lot of things that uh that you can punch that will fill it the wall in one of them I'm thinking the defense he thought it was it wasn't an actual wall hmm I need a witness and I'm not kicking or punching nothing, okay? Either way. They can't feel it. Well, let's keep this thing moving and shaking. I know he feels dumb as fuck, right?

Sitting there, hand broke. Did y'all ever have a teammate that did something like that? Because you know it was over something stupid, too, like a misplay, someone scored on him, some shit. He had two fouls in the first quarter. He had two fouls in the first half, wanted to punch himself, now you out for the fucking two. Do it for three.

You can't do it for two fouls. Goddamn. Have y'all ever seen a teammate of yours do something like that? That stupid? No. No, no, no. I had a lot of stupid teammates, all right? I had a lot of stupid teammates.

They did some dumb shit, okay? On that level? Usually, we say, hey, man, can I get the ball? It's just dumb ass. That's just some dumb ass shit you're just asking for. Can you get the ball? No. Rebound.

Rebound. Rebound. Rebound. Rebound. Rebound. Rebound. That's dumb shit, okay? Right? On that level? Usually we say, hey, man, can I get the ball? This is just dumb ass. This is just some dumb ass shit you're just asking for. Can you get the ball? No. Rebound. All right, so let's take it out to South Beach. Take our talents out that way.

Udonis Haslam went out with the bang in his last regular season game, capping off his 20th season with the Heat. UD dropped 24, hit three three-pointers, and a win over the Magic. It was just his seventh game of the season, though, so he's been big chilling, getting a check. Been doing it for a minute now. His role has diminished in recent years, but the team has kept him around because of his value as a veteran presence.

He's 42, turns 43 in June, so they won't go to the finals, but if that man was 43 doing this stuff, that'd be wild. But is Udonis Haslam one of the last of the old school style enforcers? The last? One of the last. I'm not going to say. There's a few lingering, but when we think about our heyday,

you had dudes out there who was ready to throw hands. I mean, you still have like Jermon Green type, but you know, the thing that I loved about UD was he protected his stars. I used to argue with our bigs. You see what, look, we just hit Dwyane Wade, and you see what he did to me. Like, you fouled Dwyane Wade, he chucked the hell out of me. Right?

Can we do the, like, you know, so he used to set an example. If you hit Dwyane Wade, you hit LeBron, you hit anybody that's on this team, I'm coming. And, you know, we all know that part of him, but nobody knows, like, the reason he's still on that team and been on this team for, you know, five, six years when, you know, his talents declined was them two championships that LeBron got there, you have to credit him for it because he's the one who took the pay cut to make it happen. People don't realize he took the pay cut.

Milwaukee offered him $33 million. Milwaukee offered him $33 million when LeBron was up and they were trying to make that big decision. UD was offered $33 million to go to Milwaukee. He turned it down and said, sign them. Whatever's left over, I'll sign. Right. So this, this is Miami and you got to credit, you know, Mickey for this too. This is him crediting him back that sacrifice he did, which is, you know, which is unbelievable. Cause you know, you know, there's not a lot of owners out there that will hold up their end of the bargain.

And look how it played out for him. Like at the end. Like for him overall. And when you say the last of his kind, I would have to go with Andre Iguodala. He's still in the league too. So they'll probably be the last two. Draymond will be in there. A guy like Pat Bev Pat Bev, you know, that has that, you know, aggression.

You know, those will probably be like the last of those type of guys. And after that it's just young. The league is young after that. So it's going to be interesting to see who are those next guys like Udonis Haslam to come in and help these young guys really, you know, you know, just mentoring them. And, you know, just be that big brother that they need. And do you look at Pat Bev as more of an enforcer type

or just more just like a nice vet to bring guys under their wing and kind of show them the game? I mean, I think enforcer. I think his aggression brings enforcer. Depends on how he is in the locker room, but I think he has that, though. Like, he has that type of aggression. But do guys take him seriously? I would say, like, Pat Bev's jaw drawing at you.

I think it's more just like a... No, I mean, because he's a guard. A guard enforcer is basically just protecting himself. When you have a big man enforcer, he can put that fear into other big men. So when you drive in the lane, those big men are thinking twice about really trying to hurt you. Because at some point, a guy who's really going in there and you're feeling that pain, oh no, no, we have Steven Adams.

Right? Okay. You can't hit his best player. You hit John Morant, you gotta deal with that man. That was you. You hit John Morant thinking he's sweet in there. You got to deal with, you know. And those are what makes the star players really, really get their confidence. Doug Lopez.

They are somebody that has my back. Yeah. So you mentioned earlier that Udonis Haslam had that offer from the Bucs. Said, fucking, I'm going to stay in Miami. Look, I love Milwaukee. Definitely would like some final tickets. But I'm not really leaving South Beach to go to Milwaukee, no disrespect to the city. It was 33 million versus the 12?

At that time. South Beach though. 33? 12. South Beach. Bangs in the stadium. I know, I know, but that's what I'm saying. Lifestyle, I'm accustomed to.

But the question for you, do you think we'll ever see that kind of two-way loyalty from a franchise again? It seems like nowadays everybody's bag-driven. Like, obviously, Damon stayed loyal to the Blazers, but also got the max contract. Brad Beal stayed loyal to the Wizards. He's getting the big bag. You know, I remember Tim Duncan cutting down some of his bread

when he was with the Spurs to still try to fill the competitive team. But for the most part, it seems the guy's like, fuck the franchise, I need my bag, so. It all depends on the owner. I mean, Mickey's still all depends on the owner. I mean, Mickey's still going to be an owner. Cuban's still going to be an owner. So, you know, those owners have a rapport with players.

So I don't think Mark Cuban's going to screw over Luka at any point in time. So it's usually what that owner and that player, what kind of chemistry they have together. So you had a similar situation with the Wizards, right? Could have got a bigger bag. No, I got offered, you know, I got, the general manager, you know, did his job. You know, I'm hurt, didn't play that year.

Offered me 88 million for the five years. The next day, the owner called me and basically said, listen, we can get rid of him if you want me to. Which I thought about, and I'm just playing. But he was like, listen, the max is yours, which was a six-year 125. And he says, it's yours. This is your team.

Do what you want with it. So I basically was waiting for Antoine, because I know me and Antoine was up at the same time. So I was trying to figure out how much money did Antoine need to stay because Philly was looking for that power forward guy. So they were looking at him and Elton Brand. So I needed to leave money on the table for Antoine too. Did Antoine send you a fruit basket? No, Antoine signed before I even signed.

So why don't you take more of the bread then? Not because we got players coming up. You know, Deshaun Stephenson, all these players is coming up. So, you know. Were those guys appreciative of your generosity? At the time, no. I mean, listen, we don't think about it like that because we think you're the owner, you got infinity money, which you do, and you need to give it to us, which you should.

That's how we think. We don't think about the salary cap and all that bullshit. We're just like, this is what I'm worth, give it to me. Okay. I'll never fault a guy like Dame or Bill or any of these guys. Get your bag. You make these franchises a ton of money. I think we've seen recently with Draymond and the

CBA. Warriors were like $500 million team when he came. Him, Steph, Clay obviously led to that squad being worth $7-8 billion now. So they're not hurting for bread. Obviously the confines and constraints of the salary cap is an issue, but that's y'all problem. I need my bread.

But when we talk about you, Don, it has them. Certified real one. I feel like a dude most wouldn't want to trifle with, which raises an even bigger question. Who's on your Mount Rushmore of NBA dudes you would never want to smoke with? King Martin. Jermaine O'Neal. Oakley.

Chris Mills. I've heard, was it James Johnson? Yeah. I heard he whoops ass. Boxer away. But, you know, I wouldn't be afraid of him because if he's been through training, then he's more calm and collected. So it really has to take a lot to push him. Yeah, he's very calm.

Yeah, so he's one of those very calm ones. So, you know, I can nitpick him to the point where it's like, I ain't got to worry about it. Who else? Who's a loose cannon? Stackhouse. Did I say Stackhouse? You did say Stackhouse. Stack fucking Stackhouse.

Okay. Jerry Stackhouse. And when you look at the current... When I put him in front, number one, then Charles Oakley. You played with Stack. Yes. What's the wildest thing you saw Stack do? The wildest shit I ever...

That you feel safe sharing. We was playing pick up. It was pick up in the summer. Okay. We was playing pick up. It was pick up in the summer. Okay. Right? We was playing pick up. All the stars were there. He's posting up. Because he's a big body, dude fouled him.

Check up. Bring it back. Fouled him again. Check up. Third time. Fouled him again. Check up. Jerry didn't say nothing.

Just check it up. This time, Jerry posted up. The dude stole it. Right? Clearly steal. Jerry calls foul. It was like, no up, the dude stole it. Right? Clean and still. Jerry calls foul. And it was like, nah, this wasn't no foul. Nah, hell nah. He's like, you just ain't going to foul me three times in a row and then get the ball back. Nah, nah, nah. Play defense regular. Check up. Right? So, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude. So, they just going back and forth. Dude was like, well, all right, come on in. Meet me outside. Outside?

Meet me right here. Meet me right here so we can just whoop your ass and we can just finish this game. I was like, oh, no. I mean,

I piss him off. All right. Did you have any issues with your... All right, stupid. Okay, good. Just making sure. No.

You gave him your cornbread? Facts. Okay. Nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with that. Cornbread, short. No. You gave him your cornbread? Facts. Okay. Nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with that. Cornbread, check. Every day. We look at you, D, and that in four times.

What about a guy like Z-Bo? I feel like. So I played with Z-Bo. Looked like Eddie Winslow. I played with Z-Bo, right? So we're in the playoffs, and we're playing against Clippers, right? So, you know, Z-Bo's, like, he's a big teddy bear, though, right? So he has that real aggression, but he knows how to just keep it calm, right?

Which is weird because it's hard to read him. Like, you just never know. So they're fouling in the playoffs, and he said, Hey, y'all better stop fouling around here or this is what's about to get real nasty. So he pump fakes and then someone fouls him, which was Matt Barnes. He didn't know it, he turned around,

was getting ready to put his hand around his neck. He said, oh my bad, Matt. I thought you was that bitch ass Blake Griffin. I was about to choke the shit out you. I was like, damn. I thought you was somebody else. I thought, ooh, I thought you was Blake Griffin. I was like, damn.

Crazy. Crazy, man. Brandon, when you look at your Mount Rushmore, a guy you don't want to smug with, who would you put on there? Steven Jackson, Ron Artes, Jerry Stackhouse is who I played with, and Larry Sanders. Larry Sanders, Larry Sanders, because you just never knew. They just never knew. And Larry's my guy too.

I fuck with Larry. Larry be good. But he was just like, he's one of those, all right, you say one wrong thing, he's just going to pop off on you. So he was just like, you know, he's one of those like, you know, all right, like you say one wrong thing, he's just going to pop off on you. So he was, yeah, he was one. You got to get him on the medication, that medicinal, make sure things is all right. It comes from the earth. It's for all of us.

All right, so let's talk about this Heat playoff game tonight, 7-8 game against the Hawks. Who y'all got winning that game? I got the Heat. I think the Heat take care of that. Yeah. I mean, I just think they're the better team overall. I know what they've been going through up and down,

but I think they'll be able to get the seventh spot easy. Yeah, Jimmy, it's playoff time, and Jimmy Butler in the playoffs is damn near top three player in the NBA. When you're talking about regular season versus what you get in Jimmy Butler in the playoffs, it's really two different fucking people. I'm pretty sure Jimmy is going to have 35 to 40 tonight. That's just Jimmy in the playoffs. So you mentioned Jimmy. I want to talk about something that he had said earlier in the season, basically, essentially that he doesn't even try until after the All-Star

break. Now you look at his numbers pre-All-Star break versus post-All-Star break, definitely proved him right. He was still trying before, but just that fact, do you notice that's a trend in a lot of guys? And when you get in the league long enough, when do you actually start giving a fuck about the season and getting ready for the playoffs? You always give a fuck. When you say take it seriously, it's more of mentally. It's more the mental, I got to hyper focus. If I'm going to clubs throughout the year, this is when I'm toning it down, going to

bed early, might change my diet a little bit, watch more film. That's really what it means. Not like I'm going out there, this is just boring-ass basketball game. Yeah, you can look at the numbers and see what... Yeah, it's more like I need to focus and tune in and get ready for the meat of the season. Brent, how about yourself? Yeah, I would say, well, I mean, I was always fucking around.

Yeah, you just got to take it, like you said, just changing your diet, watching more film. Towards, like, the later of the year, though, like, I think, like, the first month month everybody's trying to fill each other out then it's like you play hard around that That the all-star weekend and then you kind of like take a break a little bit and then it's like that last couple like like Months or whatever like you just turn it up a little bit So it's like you kind of just kind of pace yourself I mean with Jimmy now he's probably just pacing himself like he gets it and then he's just You know towards the end towards the second just pacing himself. He gets it, and then he just, towards the end,

towards the second half of the season, he just turns up. Let's talk about the Hawks a little bit. A report came out recently that Trae Young has been named to potential trades. This isn't anything new, per se. I think it was another report in March that said something similar. But when you look at Trae Young, the Hawks thinking about trading him, good decision, bad decision?

That's a tough one. It's tough because he is the face of the Hawks. He's the main guy. He's who they come to see. I'm pretty sure the way he – it looks like the way he carries himself. You're talking about an ultra confident player, right? So that means he's going to talk shit all day, right? And if you don't have the security of of a player like him he will turn people the wrong way and

You know like I look at a player like him as like, you know You you talking shit just empowers me you make me want to get better because I don't want you to talk shit no more So I got to figure out a way to shut you up With skill not punching on someone that's you know, that. That's what insecure men do. Insecurity is always loud. Yeah, so what ends up happening is if nobody wants to step up to the challenge, it's like we'd rather have them gone than, you know. It seems easier to trade one player than trade the whole team.

Yeah. And it's like, well, what else are you guys bringing in here, too? Like, how many years am I going to waste, Trey Young? Like you said, he is a lot, you know, he's loud. His game is loud. So it's like, you know, can Atlanta put the pieces around him, too? Like, and get him the right pieces in coaching and everything. Didn't him and his coach got into it or something?

Yeah, him and Nate McMillan got into it. Nate got booted, you know, like maybe it's time to boot everybody else, you know Instead of him, but it's a tough decision, you know, it's a tough decision as as a franchise It's it's rude. It's it is tough, but it's not it's like what he's on his fourth year This is Him Luca internet same here. Yeah. Yeah, I think so him Luca Aiden so they must he must have just got paid last summer He just got a bag At the end of the day as the Hawksks, you look stupid. You just look stupid.

This was the fifth year. Yeah, so this is fifth year. Fifth year, yeah. So he just got paid. Around the seventh year. That's what I'm saying. It's like too early. Five year, 250.

The player hasn't really developed into what he really is yet. So you got that five year, 215 bag from him. But you look at Trey, you look you look at Luca obviously traded for each other Both seem like to be having issues with their teams after previous success who would be more likely to not be on that team Trey on the Hawks or Luca on the Mavs who's going first tray will be tray first. Yeah, yeah Like but if you Luca and you seen what the the Mavs have put around you To lose years. I get a math. But Luke, like you're talking about, you're talking about an owner who really dedicates

to the player he likes, just like he did with Dirk. I'm gonna figure it out, don't worry. And you know, as long as you have that backing from the guy who writes the check, you're satisfied. Yeah, you're golden. Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah, you're golden, yeah. Yeah, I don't think Trae Young got that type

of relationship with his owner. Yeah, and see, I mean, we've seen, and Yeah, so I don't think yeah, I don't think Trey young got that type of relationship with his Owner. Yeah, see I mean we've seen and that's the stuff too. I want to ask you about Because from the outside looking in we see leaks we see reports even with this this Timberwolves stuff stuff gets reported You have Woj giving a pretty much verbatim account allegedly of the situation Like when stuff leaks from an organization or whether it's the team side or whatever I remember watching the last dance everybody thought Horace Grant was the one who was supplying You know local media with with information about behind the scenes stuff. What does that do to you? Was it what who was it? What? You said allegedly allegedly so no one found out who was well last answer was propaganda

Mm-hmm MJ was controlled, you know some some may say Joe Booster has something to do with it Allegedly. So no one found out who it was? Well, the last answer is propaganda. MJ was controlled. Some may say Joe Buescher has something to do with it. Okay. Arizona, you know, not reliable. Arizonans, sneaky. But just to say, as a player like Trey, we heard about that whole Nate situation. And somebody's going to the media and saying this stuff. So what does that do to a locker room when you get involved and hear your name thrown around?

Are you reading the paper and it says, Gil did this, that, or whatever and that shit's not true? So what it actually does in real life when it says, what does sources say?

Yeah. Right? Sources say, you know, this person is bad for the team. Everybody's a suspect. Yeah.

Everybody's a suspect at that point, right? Like, like everyone's gonna get this guillotine Right every way no one getting the ball. I don't give fuck who it is. I don't we can shake hands I don't know about whoever said it just be a man and see it like I used to go reporters Fuck all that sources say right who said it? Who which one of these little motherfuckers said it you know they're gonna they're gonna tell me because i'm gonna put the pressure on them so it's like i never i i that's one thing i do despise about media that you get to hide behind sources say because because no one has to tell you shit right we don't know if sources is telling Woj anything.

It can just be what he wants to say and he uses sources say to not be accountable for the things he's writing. So I'm like, oh, sources say, you know, they're doing a lot of

this and that in the locker room. And it's just me saying that shit. You know, no one can, you shouldn't be able to hide behind sources say. It should be an actual source. Source, yeah. It should be a person's name so that person can say, wait, hold on, I didn't say that shit.

Right, right. But sources say, you just made that shit up and you just used the sources say. I mean, it seems like when I grew up, I think we all grew up, you used to read the paper and we would take a lot of that shit as facts. Oh, it's in the paper, and we would take a lot of that shit as facts. Oh, it's in the paper. How could it not be true? As you're getting older, you realize allegiances. You've got certain journalists that are signed to certain agencies that also represent players.

So the way things are framed, even Woj had an interesting tweet the other day about the Go Bears situation and just how it was explained that something called a generational PR move. So how hard is it for you guys as players to navigate that landscape? I know, Brandon, you had your own issue with the media when you were playing, doing stuff. Where they're now taking this shit and essentially fucking with your bag and fucking with your ability to feed your family. Listen, I don't really believe in the media can mess up your bag, right? Your production is all someone really gives a fuck about. Like, you're talking about an owner.

Like, this is not the fans themselves. This is an owner, right? So when he looks at the numbers and says, hey, you know, you're average, you know, 35 and 14, and you say, I want the max. Well, this article said. Stephen A. Smith said. Get fucking with that man.

So it's really about your production on the court. Now, does sometimes what people say about you affect your ability to play? Yes. That's why you just stop fucking reading shit. Have tough skin. Everything can't be said good about you. There's going to have to be some negative. You have to realize the understanding of what print is. If you can't handle print, then get off social media.

Get off of it because there's some ruthless motherfuckers out there. I know I'm one of them. Yeah. It just depends on how you play into it too. Like, you know, what to answer back to. You know, sometimes they're testing you. Sometimes they're just throwing out things just to see how you're gonna respond. So, yeah, like you said,

I don't think the media can mess up your bag. It is your production. It is about how you carry yourself on the court and what they're paying you for it to do. They're paying you to play basketball. So that's what you need to, you know, be worried about more than anything. The media is just there for extra.

It's just to throw things at you. Last question on this one, I think, but here's the problem now. A lot of the same media, as we've seen, they get to pick postseason awards, all NBA teams, defensive player of the year teams, which are now directly tied into contracts. So how much is that? You know what I mean? It seems like you look at a guy like Ja, Ja very well may have cost himself an all-NBA team nod that he deserves because of situations that were all alleged to this point.

Yeah, I mean, when you put it like that, yes, now you're talking about a different element that's been put into it, where you're talking about extra money being put on certain things. Well, I don't know why the Player Association agreed to that, because it's now in the owner's best interest. Yeah. Because let's say I'm Houston Rockets, right? But I have a player who's balling his ass off, right? And if he makes an all-NBA team

and it's going to cost me an extra $50 to $100 million, I'd rather just spend a million dollars on everyone who's voting to not vote against that. Don't vote him in. Here's $200,000. Here's $200,000. Don't vote him in. I don't want to spend... Like, I would spend the money not to have this player voted in.

That's what you set yourself up for. See, that's where I think about shit like that. I think about the worst possible outcome. That's the worst possible outcome, where if I have a certain player on my team, that he makes a team and it goes up $100 million, no. No, I'm paying. I'm paying these reporters.

Don't vote, don't vote, don't vote. They're going to turn down $100,000? Fuck no. That's real. Broke ass reporters ain't turn down shit. Right? But you see what the capability of what someone's capable of doing. That's why I say I don't like the idea of incentives.

Fucking incentive. Just give me my fucking money. 10 extra rebounds. Oh, fuck you and that. All right? Yeah, yeah. When this five years is up, I'll see the next contract. We do that. But if you owe me, if I'm worth 127, I want 127.

I don't want 127 million in the census because I can't control that outcome. You guys are in control of that now. That's real talk. And just real quick, I want to thank everybody who's watching. We're live on Gil's Arena. It's our first live show. We appreciate the more than 3,000 of you that are plugged in right now. We're going live all the way through the NBA finals, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursdays, 1130 a.m. to 230 p.m.

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no suit to talk sports. Goof-ass people out there wearing suits to talk sports. And quick before we move on, this is some shit that's always bothered me. Why do coaches wear suits to coach basketball games? That shit has never made sense to me. Because they think it makes them look more professional, right? It's like a rapper who's talking about killing all day and then he get in court and then he got the glasses on and the suit.

No, he's got the glasses on. I just listened to your album, come in here, goddammit. That shit don't make no sense. court and then he got the glasses on in the suit. No, he's got the glasses on. I just listened to your album. Come in here, god damn it. That shit don't make no sense. So it's one of those things where I never believe, like, listen, you do look good up there, right? But just because you got on a three-piece suit don't make your fucking facts

facts. Yeah, exactly. Okay? Alright. Either you can tell sports or you can't. And we still getting our ass beat. Hey, you gotta remember. There it is. You got to remember. The mob, Italian mob back in the day only wore suits. The bad guys had better suits than the lawyers.

Just want to know. That's right. And it's loosened up since the bubble. You see guys like Darvin Ham, he coming in straight. No, they got rid of the suits. Yeah. He coming in straight. No, they got rid of the suits. So what they wore during the bubble, that was part of how we dressed in the bubble, comfortable, that's what we wanted to do. So now they all sweat suits and shit.

And I feel the same way about sports shows. I don't want to see grown-ass men in suits. I need to see you rocking your normal fits. Come through rocking the Adidas. The tough crowd. I got the Bayou Barbie for Angel Reese, supporting NIL out to angel. Okay, but let's let's keep this thing moving We're gonna talk about catch me outside. Huh? Is that catch me outside? Who? Angel Reese? Oh, that's oh, oh, I'm sorry Okay, unless you legend. Yeah, I don't know that that's an international champion. Yeah, Bayou Barbie. Okay. Oh Bayou Barbie. Yeah

Not I think what was that. What was it? Bad, what was her name? Bad Bunny? Yeah, that's what I thought. I was like, yeah, okay. Bad Bar, Bad Bunny. Bad Bunny's the legend. Bad Barbie. Woo, boy, you done fell way off. You must be hurting out there.

Now it's the catch me outside. Catch me outside outfit. Goddamn, boy, you just do anything. But our last thing, we're talking about Hibachi time. Got to talk about Giannis. May not win his third MVP. Oh, bad baby was what it was. I'm washed. I just turned 41.

I'm up. I had a good life. Now it's baby shark and tee ball. Facts. Yeah, Giannis may not win his third MVP this season, but he still makes some history. First player ever to average 30-plus points, 10-plus rebounds, 5-plus assists on 55-plus percent field goal.

So Giannis did an interview recently, had this to say about the MVP. I'm not going to do the Giannis voice. I'm tapped out. It's going to sound too much like the French one. It's going to sound too much Goberish. But Giannis said, I believe the last five years I've been the MVP. Do I want a third MVP? Hell fucking yeah, I want a third one.

I'm extremely competitive. I try to make my team successful. That's what I get paid for. That's what I'm here for. I'm never going to be one who discredits anybody else's work. That's not who I am as a person. And I will never beg for an MVP award that I believe I deserve. I'm very proud that I'm able to play at an MVP level

because that means I'm making my team very successful. That's the goal. So a question I have for you guys. Giannis has seemed like kind of the I-man out in this whole MVP race talk. Despite the Bucks being the number one team in the league, it's been all Joker, it's been all Embiid. Sixers third, respect. Nuggets first in the West, kind of faltered off towards the end I think Joker got annoyed

with this whole MVP talk but let's talk Giannis what more does Giannis need to do to win another MVP it's weird because you know what he's speaking is facts right you know when you take the last five years and you just crunch the numbers,

he could have had five championships, right? And when you talk about when Jordan played, and you said the best player on the planet, how could anybody have won an MVP while he played. So it's the metrics that they're doing in trying to figure out how to get someone to be a champion when this is the best player in the league, his team is number one, and that's what they have done every year. Just because somebody was fifth and then they got the second don't mean they're having an MVP year. You know, so it's really the math that they're using,

which, you know, some years they just get it wrong and it doesn't make sense. Well, it seems like there's no actual criteria. It's just whatever we feel like making up in this particular point. Used to be winning. Joker won one with the Nuggets of the 60. We'll look at the rest of his team. You know what I mean? Like, we can look at the rest of his team. Here's what it is, you know what I mean?

We can look at a lot of guys with a lot of teams. Yeah, I mean, if I'm honest, I just worry about just trying to win a championship in the MVP finals. I mean, the MVP thing is, like you said, they're trying to find ways to give it to guys. I mean, when I was in the league, you had to be number one to win MVP, and that's just what it was. So, I mean, but he's, I mean But I feel like he's done everything he can do. I mean, Drew Holiday's gotten better.

Bobby Portis has gotten better. I mean, they have the best record in the NBA. They started off the season 11-0. So, I mean, I think the focus is just trying to win the championship. I mean, the MVP is going to be what it is. I mean, we all definitely agree, but you can't control things like that. My thing was always this with the MVP. It is most valuable player in the NBA.

So now you have to really see from this year's crop who is the most valuable player in the NBA, not who is the most valuable player on the best team. When we say the most valuable player, you still got the same basically three guys. Now who's had a better impactful year, who's been dominant the whole year between Giannis and Bede at this point? That's really the biggest question. Well, if you trade those two, so say you put Giannis on the Sixers.

Sixers would be number one. Okay, and then if you take, you know, Denver, I mean, if you take Giannis off Milwaukee and put him on Denver, does Denver have a better chance of winning the championship? No. Not at all. They don't even get close. Milwaukee?

No, no, Denver. If Denver has a better chance. Giannis goes to Denver. If Giannis goes to Denver? I don't. Because what Denver needs is not the Giannis style. Philly needs that type of guy who's going to go balls to the walls every fucking play. And they can, you know, some of those players that have a little laziness in them, he's going to make them play better.

So it's really who's the most important player in the NBA. That's what the award is. I don't give a fuck where your team is ranked. Who is the most valuable if a guy was on you know this their last but he's averaging 38 that's the most valuable player because at the end of the day his team sucked but he averaged 38 and he averaged 38 going against five players which means you only have to stop him yeah right so that means you're going to triple team him he's going to get the most triple teams the most double teams you're going to every game plan is for him, right? He has to play every single game, a hundred miles

an hour just to do that, just to try to give himself a chance to win. So, you know, I look at the game different. The better your team is, the less you have to work because you have better, better players. So I look at it a little different. It's situational. But I guess to play devil's advocate, if you're on that good team and you have more guys who can go out there and do it and you're still getting that level of numbers, I know maybe easier to do it, but you still got to go out there and do it. To an extent. That's what I'm saying.

There has to be someone that's out of this world. Like when Kobe won his. When Kobe lost his, it's like, yo, do you see this team? You see what he had to do? Do you see the defense that he had to go through to average what he had to average? That was the upsetting part about it. Yeah. Okay, so you can also put, okay, so what if Dame, all right, so say Dame go to another team, Bradley Bill, and they've been putting up big numbers, And what is, like, so what if they can't do that same thing on a good team?

You know what I'm saying? So let's say Dame goes to Denver or Philly next year. Okay, let's say he goes to, well, because they already have a star. Let's put him on Miami, right? Let's put him on Miami. Let's put him on Miami. He becomes the number one guy. And he averages 23 points a game. And they're number one in the East.

Is he the MVP? Yeah, that's it. No. Why not? Because he's not playing at an MVP level. He's just on a better team. So he put, you know, that's the thing. So he'd have to go to that team and still put up similar numbers of what he's putting up on the list. But he won't because there's a better team around him where he don't have to go full board.

But I think he can still put up those numbers on that team. They'll just score faster. Man, it's one of those things where I have to see it. You know what I mean? It has to make sense. But like I said, if he averages, go to his his average of 23 right where he's been averaging 30 and 29 And it's like well, this is not an MVP. I mean well, he's the best point. Yeah, okay Well, he'll be the best point guard in the East. I mean in the East at least

Because is it because of what he's doing is because of the winds see you see how the winds in heightens I think if you can But I think if Giannis goes to like, if he goes to Philly, nothing changes. Nothing changes. Nothing. So that's the effect as a player. Nothing should change.

So if you're averaging 38 on Orlando, and then say you get on a team like you said, like Miami, you should be able to do the same thing. Yeah, no. When you... Okay, so if we took Giannis and put him with Kevin Durant or put him with LeBron or Luka, he's not going to be 31. He might be 27 and 14. His number's going to drop because there's more options now. So it just all depends. It all depends.

Yeah, I guess it's just who you are. So let's talk about Boogie Cousins made an appearance on KG certified on Showtime basketball. We're talking about Joker and basically essentially saying some things about Joker and where he would fall in the history of basketball if he actually did three-peat his MVP. I'm not okay with it being three MVPs in a row because it then becomes a conversation of, is this the best basketball player to ever touch a basketball? And I think we can all agree on that and say it's not.

Not saying he can't be, not saying he doesn't deserve more down the road, but at this stage in his career career I'm not okay with saying that he hasn't won anything he hasn't been to a final like it's a lot of things still in play for that so that's my only concern and now this is we're in the conversation he's at this point he's the best center of all time he's going three in a row three in a row can he, three in a row. Can he down? We're putting him over to likes of Shaquille O'Neal, Hakeem Olajuwon, Tim Dunn.

And it's just like, Will Chamberlain. Like, that's a tough conversation to have. Who's saying that? So, Boogie's saying it, but the question for y'all. Bill Russell, Will Chamberlain. Oh, I thought you was saying, is he on drugs? I was just going to say probably. But you have a real question?

Okay, go. So, Bill Russell, Will Chamberlain, and Larry Bird are the only players in the NBA who should have won three straight MVPs, but none of them are regularly mentioned in the GOAT debate for whatever reason. Listen, like, it's a dumb argument because um MVP is regular season awards right so really so everyone who's won this award it has nothing to do with the end result um Steve Nash won two back-to-back and no one has put him in the top five point guards ever. Right? It's one of those things that, you know, it's just situational during the season. If his team was great during regular season, that's how he got that award. Usually, you know, the best player in the league usually has the best team that goes

on to win it. That's usually, you know, how it worked. But, you know, there's going to be times if Joker did win it, no one in the fucking NBA in the last three years has said Joker has been the best player. Right? He just put himself in position to win those awards. Great team, great numbers, consistency. That's what's been going on.

So Kobe has what? How many MVPs? One. One MVP. One? And he's going to be in this generation's always top five. So that shit he's saying has no merit. So I'll start with you, Brandon.

I want to ask you, how important are regular season MVPs in the GOAT debate? I mean, I guess it's good for your resume. But the end result is to get finals MVP and the championship So, I mean it's good to have you know If you want to you know, have your pictures which are just your MPs and nothing else and that's fine But that still doesn't put you at that level of those other guys, you know, that have to have rings Yeah, you need you got to have a ring I mean obviously and this is a problem you deal with a lot of people,

is like, yo, would you rather have five MVPs or one Finals MVP? Five MVPs, no chip, or one Finals MVP? Even a Finals MVP, right? You can't, it doesn't really go to the best player every single time. So it's just who had that best series. Yeah. So that can be given away. And it's just more bragging rights.

Like you know what I'm saying? Like I went to the finals and I was the guy. So it's like that. Like you're going to feel like, well I was at the top of my... If you're not the best player. There's only like 11 voters, a part of the same media who votes on MVP. And as I've questioned before, I don't know if they actually really know what they're watching when they're watching these games.

It's just one of those things, like let's just say we played in the finals, right? Up until the finals, I'm averaging 38K in the team, I'm MVP league, all this, and then I'm shutting down. They're focusing on me and I got to delegate, and I got to delegate, and the number two or number three option is balling his ass off and he wins finals MVP. Right? Oh, I'm hot as shit.

Right, of course. But does that really say he's... How can he really bank his career on that award when it's delegated because of me sacrificing at the right time just to win this championship. Well, essentially the point is kind of similar, obviously 2015 Warriors, Iggy gets the finals MVP for what he did to LeBron. LeBron was still putting up 30-something, whatever it was.

But Steph probably had more value to that Warrior squad because of what he was doing offensively. He didn't get one vote, if I'm not mistaken. Who picks that award anyway? The coach, right? No, it's the media. A group of hand-picked media. That's the shit that always bothers me because again, I like to watch games at the crib.

It just gives you more perspective. I get to see the game angle. I am controlled and limited by whatever the director of that game is putting out there. Watching games actually in the arena, you get too distracted. There's too much other shit going on. You can't really see. I don't get that tight camera on the bench. If I'm at that Timberwolves game, when Gobert bings Kyle Anderson, there's a good chance

I don't see it, depending on where I'm at. I'm behind the hoop in the media section where they put it at. But I get four different camera angles of it. Now I can really digest what's going on. I think same for watching the game. But yeah, 11 hand-picked media members. So when you look at that, and these are a lot of the same people who get to vote on MVP, for me it's like, I respect these awards, obviously just because you have to, but also

like who the fuck is voting on this shit? I guess most of the awards are just impact. Just like anything, they've gotten some awards wrong, right? We know that. But for the most part, you can't get them all right. There's going to always be something that just, you're going to be like, really? Really? But for the most part, they do get them right. It's the criteria, you know, the impact of that series.

But when it comes to awards, right, and, you know, I know, you know, they love throwing, you know, especially when you come to Michael Jordan, right, when you go up there and you look at all of his awards, when, you know, like, everyone usually says, oh, Jordan's awards versus LeBron's awards, right? And we then, you know, they'd be like, alright, this is how many times he won scoring

titles and all this, right? He's going to always have that over everyone because when you talk about being the great, no one ever throws in scoring titles, defensive titles, all of this. You always throw rings in. So mentally, if I'm chasing the GOAT, I'm chasing his rings. I'm not chasing his scoring titles and defensive titles because I can tell you this right now.

When LeBron was going for scoring titles that one year, if someone would have told him, oh, to catch Jordan, you need nine of these scoring titles, who the fuck was going to stop him from doing it? Right? Who was going to stop him? The only person that stopped LeBron was LeBron because LeBron came into the NBA trying to win championships. He did not come into the league trying to get scoring titles and all this because when

KD won his, who was going to stop KD from winning the scoring title for the next three, four years? No one. You know, you put the importance of winning championships So high that it it kind of blindsided all the players and say okay, you know scoring titles I wanted once I don't need eight more, you know I need to win these championships and try to get these championships so I can be in that that look that Jordan You know that Jordan

Race, you know, it, that's what stands out. The scoring titles. Y'all, that's just always added. That's like the blind side. Well, hold on. You know, you got the rings, but you don't have nine scoring channels. Defensive player of the year. Finals MVP.

You're like, oh, fuck. They should have told me that when my career started. God damn it. I'm LeBron. I'm 20 years in. If I knew for the first 10 years I could just have pointless stats, motherfucker, I would have got those. If you tell me right now, I'm LeBron James, and we can rewind LeBron back to his first year and say,

you're going to have 20 years, and by the age of 38, 39, you will still be averaging about 28 points. Those first 10 years, my team is going to be sorry as fuck. It's going to be the 2017 Cavs, right? Just without Kyrie or just without like Kevin. It's going to be that team going for the next 10 years. Empty fucking stats. I'm trying to average 35 every fucking year.

I might just lose the one year to Kobe Bryant because this team was worse. But I would have just went for the empty numbers knowing that I still got 10 years now to try to pull out

six rings somehow. Well, spirit of debate, as always, that's what you can expect on these live Gills Arena shows. We appreciate everybody who's still plugged in. We know we switched the time zone, y'all. Y'all still showed up, as always. That's what you can expect on these live Gills Arena shows. We appreciate everybody who's still plugged in. We know we switched the times on y'all.

Y'all still showed up, showed out. The chat is buzzing right now. Great commentary. A lot of whack shit, too, to be expected. But now it's time for Mostly Fans. Hold on. In low key, these motherfuckers, nah. My shit's up, y'all.

They're still not talking to me either. Okay, I'm just checking. I feel like the secret service. You know some secret shit that I don't know. I don't like that. These motherfuckers, nah, my shit's up, y'all. They're still not talking to me either. Okay, I'm just checking. I feel like the secret service. You know some secret shit that I don't know. I don't like that. Wait, what did y'all say? It sounds like y'all set me up for the ends of some shit. That's what y'all really set me up for.

Which I want me to do it to. See? He can't hear you. He can't hear you. No, okay. I'm going to get his ass. I got you. So, question of the day.

Obviously, NBA playoffs about to be underway. I'll start with you, Brandon. What's one thing you would change about the NBA playoffs? If there was one thing I would change about the NBA playoffs, I would go back to the first round being five games. Oh. That five-game series. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

It used to be three. Three game? I was, when I was old enough it was five. It went three to five. Yeah. Well then, yeah, let's go three, five, seven again. Yeah, I think you should only be able to play seven games if you get to the finals. Everything else you gotta, five, three to five. Maybe I need that bread and cheese.

That's why when some people say, this is the only team that started off 0-3-1. Well, bitch, half the fucking shit was three games and out. So there's no chance for anyone to come back if you have three game series or five game series. I hate fucking sass like that because you don't tell the truth.

He didn't even know it was three three No, you know three but you know for you know, like Jordan's first exits was three games three, you know, so At least five I like the five first round get it in and out serious to to one Milwaukee play first round that's done whoever play Like certain ease some of these are done sometime man, you know But sometimes you know after two games it takes it takes time for people to get the the rhythm two games And then we got to win one at home and then try to get the next one Five games first round. Let's get it in and out

No time. You know you get you know, you get paid like off of the extra games, right? So that's like yeah There's two checks you don't get. So NBA shifted to first round seven game series in 2003, so it's been 20 years of that. Likely revenue driven. Just 2003 has been seven games. They'll get that bread. They wanted that money.

But I did enjoy back in the day, especially those 90s, those five game series, because those game fives would be rocking. They always saying like boat management and all this other stuff, so I'm just trying to figure out ways to where, you know, well. Listen, because I was, you know, because, you know, playing in the playoffs, man, like sometimes it takes a punch or two.

It takes a punch or two to really figure someone out before you can really adjust. So when you're talking about, you know, three games, five games So when you're talking about three games, five games, you're talking about really being on your shit early. Yeah. I mean, we already done played each other, what, three or four times this year? Nah, that shit don't matter. That regular season shit don't. Let's get right to it.

That regular season. Five games first. Let's get it to it. Five games. Think about it. You're talking about Jimmy Butler's regular season versus playoffs. Yeah. I played you three games in the regular season, and I see you in playoffs, and you're a whole

other man. That's right. Give me two games to figure that shit out for you. I'm one of those that home court advantage is home court advantage, right? Yeah. Like I'd rather say like, you know, if you're an AFC, you don't get no fucking home court. Or, or, or, or. You play every game on the road, though.

You play all seven. Listen, that was aggressive. How about this one? We don't go to the home until you win the game. So it's like make it, take it. Oh. So make it, take it. Make it, take it.

If we win, we keep staying home. Until you beat us, then we go to yours. I think that's the... But would you do it on the other side now? So say you have home court advantage, you're the Bucks, you trick off game one, you got to go to their joint You go to their joint until you beat them. Yeah until you beat them and to come back home make it take it Right yeah, yeah now that puts some real now now that makes a motherfucker fan be a fan

That makes fans real like home that means home court advantage is very important Now you got to value that team. A team comes in there and whoops your ass, and you might not come back here no more. It's over. That's real. Right? That's tough.

That's tough. So I got one. Normally I just host and let y'all do it. So we got NBA playing, right? Those games are Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday. We got the NBA playoffs. We need the NBA way offs. Bottom four teams play for draft position.

So they would start. You've got opening round games on Monday. It's a boring day. There's not shit going on. Opening round games are on Monday. Then the winners advance to the championship game, which would be on Thursday. Winners get the number one pick in the draft, and their players get some type of bonus. Normally, I don't like to reward

losing, but we're making them play extra games. Here's the extra bag. Wait, wait. So you take the four? Four worst teams in the league. They got to know. You see them, obviously, from worst to whatever. So you have like a three game round robin?

Like three game... No, so they just... It's a final four. One versus four, two versus three. And then whoever wins, that gets the number one pick in the draft. The other three teams go back to the lottery. That's not bad. I can do that. That's not bad.

Janky basketball. Janky basketball. Janky basketball is better than no basketball. Because what ends up happening is. I came up with that all by myself. Nobody helped me on the production staff. Nobody told me anything. No, I'm just kidding.

I can't take no credit for that book. No, but that's a good one because what ends up happening is you go from tanking to now trying to figure out how to be a winner just like that. Oh, that's clever.

I like that. Who came up with that? Can't say. Okay, they need you. Sworn in secrecy. Okay. Guilds Arena production staff. All right, okay.

So I came up with it. I mean... I came up with that. You pay our bills, so shit. I came up with that, y'all. came up with that. You pay our bills, so shit. I came up with that, y'all. I wrote that in. I'm just kidding.

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