Gil's Arena - Gilbert Arenas Says Dame Lillard Isn't Going Anywhere

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Starting point is 00:04:37 your way to work whatever it may be go ahead and do that visually challenged so yesterday on the show we talked a little bit about the Draymond Jordan Poole situation but that opens up a larger conversation about hoopers and trigger words that could potentially lead to an altercation. So I posted a tweet just asking people you know we all know we've all been hoopers there are words that somebody could say to you could be mother-related, family, boo, we've seen it that'll trigger you make you lose all sense of rationality and want to get into a fight. But whether it's basketball or life, there are some things that are just off limits. Seen it happen on the court, seen it happen in the streets.

Starting point is 00:05:14 Obviously people in New York, if you tell them SMD, you know what that acronym stands for, they'll want to fight you. I don't know why. That's the... And it comes from a girl too. G.I.J. You don't even know what's the only comes if it comes from a girl to Gij you don't even know it is. I know that's a what do New York girls say when they get mad. Yo suck my

Starting point is 00:05:40 The dumbest thing Gary you like what when you ask their New Yorkers as a whole their trigger word for some reason Yeah, that is a true. That's a trigger word from the female though. That's the problem Oh the female Like It just sounds dumb when the female version of new york starts saying but i got i got high level hoopers here and this is not to talk about the draymond during pool situation but obviously words were said we can't mouth read or look at the video to see what led to that actual one hit or quartering but what words will trigger a hooper and a one in the fight is this a player on your team or outside player? We go go both player on your team and player on another player on your team basically a

Starting point is 00:06:29 Lot of stuff because you know, they know you the most they know what's sensitive They know, you know, cuz you could find in your teammates so they know what you're going through personally So, you know anything that's personal Can have it going on quick outside It all the pins. It depends on how you feeling that day, right? You know Your teammates can get you more riled up then outside opponent and at what point in a teammate argument Do you drop that that nuclear bomb and talk about that thing that they've confided in you?

Starting point is 00:07:00 But how far does it have hands on how? It depends on how fast you want to get swole on you know that's like listen majority of fights happen gambling right now i want you to think about the gambling that's different we're all rich that's different right everyone there is rich yeah no one is losing millions of dollars when the fight happens is usually anywhere from $200 to five grand It's just what's going on when it's happening. I'm losing your talking shit now Principal yes, the principal issues of the principal of money Money's on the line as principal when a nigga do something say something it ain't what he's saying that's gonna fuck you up

Starting point is 00:07:43 It's the principal here. He think he could just say the shit get away with the shit and everybody's watching the shit yeah it's like oh hell nah nigga you're not about to just do that and say that and and you know this is one of them things so brandon does it make it worse like so if you're gonna argue with a teammate this is one-on-one but now now you got people around, and they're instigating, steering it on. And if you see their reaction, does that heighten the sense of wanting to really throw some hands? I mean, it hypes it, and then it's more like, I listen to who's laughing the hardest. It's like, oh, okay. Oh, that's what?

Starting point is 00:08:18 Bat. Bat. Bat. Say no more. I know you ain't talking. I know you ain't talking. Yeah, it's like shit like that. I know you ain't talking, Mark-ass nigga.

Starting point is 00:08:27 It's just like shit like that. Usually if we're arguing and someone else that you don't like starts to start to talk, I bet, and then it goes strictly to you. It's like, hold on, let me finish this. Hold on, I know you. I know you ain't say nothing in two weeks.

Starting point is 00:08:43 I came up on fix his toes and break your bones, but words can never hurt you. So for me, ain't too much a nigga can say. Even my teammate on the outside is going to fuck up my money. It's going to fuck up my situation. I'm rational enough to know, like, are you just talking shit? But when you witty enough to have a comeback to some shit some motherfuckers are saying it ain't never gonna cross a line because if whatever you're saying i'm gonna say back it's just like racism like motherfucker racism call you a nigga cracker we even you're

Starting point is 00:09:17 like we even you're like the racist jokes and like the race is like talking about it that's just funny to me like when somebody like i just laugh just laugh at them like man hey thanks but it's like you say but I feel like I don't know it's just certain stuff like call me a mark or something like the LA like you call somebody a mark it's like it's like well yeah we got a yeah like I ain't no more there's just I guess it's just certain work is just certain words on how you I mean it's just certain work. It's just certain words on how you I mean, it's just all how you feeling Who's saying it? It's just you're saying I'm not somebody's less than you like

Starting point is 00:09:50 The tone yeah, like a like a Pat Bev saying some crazy shit. It is like Still We need to get Pat back Pat but it's like, either you ignore it, and it depends on like, he around Gil,

Starting point is 00:10:08 he say some shit. Gil gonna instigate the shit to trigger me into doing something. Because he know you are. Yeah, because he's like, what you gonna do, son? You gonna let him just say that?

Starting point is 00:10:17 You know what's great? That's why you always gotta do your homework on everybody. Right. So you can have smoke for everybody. I can't wait. This smoke. I do my research.

Starting point is 00:10:24 I'll say something. I got something for that ass. I got something for that. everybody. I can't wait. I do my research. I'll say something. I got something for that ass. Got something for that ass. Yeah. I'm going to say something that you ain't ready for. That I don't know. And that's why I be like, let's not cross these lines because you're not better at me than this. I'm better than you at talking this shit because I cross lines, nigga.

Starting point is 00:10:40 You're not crossing lines. Yeah, I'm going to say, yeah, my mouth is. You doing it for you. I'm going to take it there. I'm going to. You got to take it there. Yeah, I'm about to say, yeah, my mouth is... You're doing it for you. I'm going to take it there. I'm like, hey, you... You got to take it there. Yeah! A habitual line stepper.

Starting point is 00:10:48 When did you step on it? Because I've seen some guys in the locker room, they could just take one little thing and they come in with like the most personal... It just depends on what... It depends on if they like you personally. Razor bumps, whatever, you know, whatever. No, no, no, no. Same velour suit too many times.

Starting point is 00:11:00 I mean... They'll go at you. Yes, listen, when you're talking about a team, you know, everybody don't get along personally but because of the team aspect you deal with each other so You might want smoke with him. Anyway, you just waiting for him to do so. Yeah, right You just wait like just I've been waiting for you. I knew it. I like You ain't go pass it ball. I hope you say get off the glass or something Hope you stay soft hair. I hope you say so fast

Starting point is 00:11:33 Where's the last time you have it into in film film to us? Film is when people petty that's what you'd be like, okay bet And then the coast keep rewinding then everybody be in their life Bet. Bet. Bet. Bet. Bet. Bet. Bet. Bet. Bet. Bet.

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Starting point is 00:11:58 Bet. Bet. Bet. Bet. Bet. Bet. Bet. Bet. Bet. Bet. Bet. Is the worst the works if you want to if you want ego if you want to start team fights? Yeah Team fights you can do it off of just film

Starting point is 00:12:11 It don't matter how you get in the game You could have had 40 just use all defensive clips. Yeah. Oh man. Oh be physical. Yeah, you didn't you didn't yeah I remember we did this we playing Houston Rockets, right? I'm Garth Steve franchise boom right and you know Steve would like to go left when he wanted to hang on you boom, right? So I'm up there and I already I knew the plan Boom Steve takes me like Dunks on uh Antoine boom it's like oh right so I'm just I just wait just to rewind oh shit rewind it okay he's talking about like I guess he can see me getting ready to go

Starting point is 00:12:57 like I hope he says you know Brent is like oh yeah push him this way and I didn't listen he went the other way he he talked about everybody else but me but antoine was sitting there matt because you know antoine had to help but antoine just sitting there fears that you're just going to keep just just watching me so he's trying to tell me like i'm playing bad defense but the film is showing an Antoine get dunked on the whole time. Yeah, yeah. Practice this man was hot. Hot. No, film is, man, you see people's ego.

Starting point is 00:13:31 Yeah. And I had Scott Scowl's rookie year, so, you know, anything you did, he was rewinding it and knowing your head about it. So, it just made you, like, just cringe. You'd be in there like a kid, like, just. And don't sit at the front with everybody in the back. So, you know, I used to sit in the front, like in the back. So, you know, I used to in the front, like in the air, I could just tell like niggas looking on me. Like you can feel it.

Starting point is 00:13:49 Like you can feel it on your back. We might be in scouting report, motherfucker be talking about scouting report. And then somebody be like, well, you know, you're not going to guard nobody. Like, okay. Say something else, nigga. Say something else.

Starting point is 00:14:00 Say something else. Say something else. Say one more thing. What, one of the football players was a Steve receiver. Steve Smith. Did he say during film he had to slap one of his teammates? Absolutely. It's that film, man.

Starting point is 00:14:16 That film is worse than the social media. They think that social media comments and getting that film with your teammates and y'all in there together Huh? I you're not with your head with the coach always said I got on live We rewind this shit as many times and every one but is the worst thing in Vinnie for coach That clicker you ain't got a coach ain't gotta say man coaching got it Coach ain't gotta say none all he has to just sit there just but the crazy thing it ain't even the coaches You know who it's the video coordinator cause he the one that know cause he the one doing it

Starting point is 00:14:48 so he's seeing it like look at this one it's the time stamp could you get that to 216 216 play that again motherfuckers so the video coordinators are the biggest instigators yeah and those be the ones that actually actually those be the ones that get the coaching job

Starting point is 00:15:04 like later on and the players who didn't play so they ain't got nothing to do with it talking about ooh Yeah, yeah, and those be the ones that actually actually those be the ones I get the coaching job Players who didn't play so they ain't got nothing to do with it tomorrow Okay Don't come in after a blowout like the guys they didn't play like his shit cool. I went on it anyway I could be better defense than that. Yeah start hearing all that shit I feel like sometimes I don't have to be a word It could just be like an elbow between teammates or the knee thing, like elbow. Or like one of these.

Starting point is 00:15:29 You see somebody like, they don't know where you sit. When you see the tap, we call it the tap. You tap it. Oh, we tap it? Oh, we tap it now. Oh, we tap it now. The tap is crazy. Even on the bench, you ever watch

Starting point is 00:15:43 when people get dunked on on the bench, they be like. Oh, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look,

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Starting point is 00:16:14 We looking for reasons to fight with our teammates, man. Nigga right here. So Brandon, Chad wants to know, he said you're a LA guy, how does it feel when somebody calls you a weirdo? A weirdo? That's, I mean, it depends. Like everybody think you you a weirdo a weirdo that's cut I made off like it depends like everybody think like everybody think you're weird or if you're

Starting point is 00:16:29 not agreeing or doing anything but I guess it depends on who it is like if it's somebody like you don't like or somebody you don't know and be like you a weirdo you're a weird-ass nigga like it just it just I don't know can't call you a weird I don't know what people got a defined weird though like what's weird offbeat doesn't It all depends. Wearing a crown. Fucking weirdo. Fucking clown. Like that shit don't bother me.

Starting point is 00:16:52 I don't remember fashion. Anybody who was fashion for was called weirdos. Well I think you weird if you have a finsta. Like a fake account. No followers, no posts. That's weird to me. Like why are you hiding? Just type from your real name. Them the like that's weird to me. Like why are you hiding you're fucking just type from your real name No, no niggas. I mean, I want you to see that I'm or I want you to have that

Starting point is 00:17:10 I'm looking someone who's who has who's following more people than they have followers man weirdo Yeah, that's where the more posts than they have fucking followers All of that is like you know people in the chat are listening because we're talking to some of y'all weird My niggas are mean-spirited like that. Yeah side check that post with no nigga that's weird oh wow like who's doing it off for you that's cold nigga that's weird like you're just on vacation by yourself where's the guy show the guy that you got off tinder you know weird uncle rob and that's how we started the show on this thursday Tinder. Champ for Tinder. You know, weird. Uncle Rob. And that's how we started the show on this Thursday.

Starting point is 00:17:48 All right, but let's keep this thing moving. We got to talk a little bit about the WNBA. WNBA had their All-Star weekend this past weekend in Las Vegas. It was turnt up. But before we get to that, we got to just mention that WNBA viewership up 46% on ESPN. ABC games are up 18%. But back to the All-Star game. Jewel Lloyd, one MVP, set an all-star game Jewel Lloyd one MVP

Starting point is 00:18:05 set an all-star game record with a 31 piece Sabrina Inescu set the three-point record with the 37 with the starry ball she only missed twice and now we may get a Sabrina verse step three-point shootout down the line who you think winning that stop it actually I wish you always sure we're real NBA ball. No, I mean I wish in college or a student No NBA or WB line, let's meet in the middle what ball Cuz I mean you put stuff at that range they get to use their own they get to use their own ball That's a free throw and the starry balls with the four pointers and all that shit And did y'all like that uh they had the four-point spots in the All-Star game?

Starting point is 00:18:47 Okay, you can't do that then. No, no, what I'm saying is you can't say it's a record when you change the rules to add more points. That's not a record being broken because that's not the rules. But they do it in both the men's and women's. But it don't matter. We had a starry ball? They got the two starry four-point shots. For Steph and them?

Starting point is 00:19:10 Yeah, they have those two special spots. So if the record was shot, like you're talking about the best shooters in the world up until a certain point, and they missed, let's say, two shots. You missed five shots, but because they've added more points, you're breaking records? Yeah, but she only missed twice, though.

Starting point is 00:19:24 So we got to... So what would the number be in regular? You know, I'm an old man. I just remember Craig Hodges days. I remember the Craig Hodges... You can't add more things. Like, she has a record now, right? And then they add a six-pointer in,

Starting point is 00:19:39 and then someone breaks the record. Oh, all new record. Like, no. But how did y'all feel about the four-point spots in the actual game in the actual game yeah the fuck does that do best good we are we ever gonna see a four-point line there was a time when there was no three-point line change is coming Gil change is coming just coming a lot of changes big three brought in that four-pointer. No, no, what I'm saying is you're acting like it matters.

Starting point is 00:20:08 Like, ooh, you can make it 10 points. What the fuck does it matter? So you can say, ooh, you hit 100 points because I hit 10, 10-pointers? Like, no, it was fucking 10 shots. But will we see a point when they actually institute that in real games? Do you feel like? Because, again, there was a point when there was no three-point line. Adam Silver.

Starting point is 00:20:24 Except in 980, they brought it in. The is changing man the game is changing the east is the end season tournament like everything that they're adding like so i could see i could see it coming i mean they shooting from damn near right there anyway yep and they make it on a consistent basis and it's gonna fuck up the game because niggas just gonna be shooting four four is more than two i mean i get it, Gil. I mean, I got it. You dunk from outside the lane, that's three points. It got to be.

Starting point is 00:20:50 Yeah. Outside the lane, three points. Outside the lane is three points. If you dunk from the free throw line, it's five points. You dunk on a nigga, and you dunk on a nigga, that's two and a half. And if he flop, that's another point. That's a minus. That's a minus.

Starting point is 00:21:06 It's like, just play basketball. How about about that i just want to see your ball like put it in the 2k put it in 2k first but put it in all the 2k games and see if it works see if it works with the video gamers like instead of a four pointer just if you want just you do like a half court shot or point it yeah how about this how about this? How about this? Make two threes, threes, four. How about that? What the fuck is the difference? There you go.

Starting point is 00:21:29 What's the difference? There you go. Make threes. I made two pointers, threes and three pointers, fours. If you want points, I just fucking play basketball. How about this? There's no zone. You know, take off the hand check.

Starting point is 00:21:40 There's other shit you can do to make the game more exciting than just add just random spots of ass. So that has nothing to do with it. And before we continue, can do to make the game more exciting to just add just random spots Oh, that's a good that's nothing to do with Three-point competition the starry balls are worth three I think the the bone of money balls are worth to the starry balls are worth three But either way they just add they're adding extra points to some but I think the max now under own NBA rules and max was Uh, I think 30 or some around that with she still think, has the highest percentage with just the two misses. Okay, so 30, right? So 30 is the highest.

Starting point is 00:22:10 She had 28. So she would have had 28 in the old rules. Is that a record? Yes. Okay, so she has a record. She's cooking. I don't need your 37. Oh, yeah, she broke the record.

Starting point is 00:22:21 The record was 28. She has a record because she's only missed this many shots. For sure. All right, but we also got to, you know, we talk about the positive of the WNBA All-Star Weekend. Vegas turned up. Also got to talk about the negatives a little bit. What's the negative?

Starting point is 00:22:35 So there's a YouTuber by the name of Gideon who's reportedly been banned from all NBA events and WNBA events after he was found sleeping courtside during the WNBA game mmm that's that's the trigger one we get these graphics right I don't know if we have the we don't have the clips that she we have the glit like it's trolling of him trolling he was sleeping courtside sleeping or site he's 40k was playing like he was sleep he put started clapping. He's like, oh. So he spent 40K for like four seats in the front row. He's a YouTuber? Wait, wait, wait, whoa.

Starting point is 00:23:13 40. No, no, no, no. That's what it said in the caption. It don't even cost that much. It's $240. $240. $240 for it. It said 40 with a K next to it. Oh, I mean, I'm pretty sure those seats were $240. I think he's season ticket holder or something, but he's also pulled other stunts like he was at a Mavs Wolves game. He was getting a haircut. Oh, yeah Ballsy so he's banned because he trolled Apparently the trolling is what the band so question for you. Go. Is there such a thing as bad publicity? No, no, he said that like I mean for him he is he pays 200 for he buys the seats so he can troll for his viewership right mm-hmm the WNBA and the NBA did exactly

Starting point is 00:24:01 what he wanted viral Viral moment. To be everywhere. So you gave him what you want, but, you know, the WNBA and NBA, you took away what you're supposed to gain from it. Notoriety. It doesn't matter how you get it. Right. Right?

Starting point is 00:24:20 No matter how you get it, you know, he's trolling you for his viewership. Troll his ass back. Right. Mm-hmm. And think about it. He might not just do the same thing next time. He might do something more creative.

Starting point is 00:24:30 If he's done the haircut, he did the sleeping on this time, maybe he get a chef come in cooking some shit up sitting next to him. Some noodles and noodles. He's gonna go to another sport,

Starting point is 00:24:40 do the same thing there. Yeah. How do you get banned, though? Like, they got face recognition. I mean, I'm gonna go to the Bucks game this year and just go to sleep and see what happens what i'm gonna do ban me no no no you're going to have a game and just sitting there like man y'all just end up 30. man no okay i mean we've seen chris came and do it in the actual game so yeah he kind of got out

Starting point is 00:24:58 this is what i got to say to the wnba like notoriety is what you want right you have someone who purposely does something that makes everyone talk about it instead of banning him won't one of you guys make him your personal troll against the other teams the NBA does. I guarantee you that Clipper Darryl, what does Clipper Darryl do when the other opponent is at the free throw line? Troll. He's a mascot.

Starting point is 00:25:34 WNBA, you have a personal mascot. At this point, he was trolling both teams. One of you guys hire him to troll the opponent. You put him across from the bench. You put him next to the bench. He's sleeping to the bench he's sleeping every time they defeat the line he will go viral every game everyone then other teams will start doing it now you have this inside the arena atmosphere that's going to be going viral that's

Starting point is 00:25:58 going to be doing this you're creating the buzz within the buzz yeah people will come to the game just to see him, bro. Yes. What he on today? Right. You know what I'm saying? What he on today? Like you just said, one day somebody could be cooking next to him or just anything.

Starting point is 00:26:14 We'll come to the game just to see that. Gil the guru. Well, what I'm saying is the WNBA, like y'all seen that clip from Asus, Asia Wilson? Yeah, when they were through with the coach. Coach, coach, coach, coach. And then as soon as coach leave these, but to be honest, that moment right there was the biggest moment of Aces this season and then the champs.

Starting point is 00:26:36 Man. That right there, that's the most viral clip. That funny, just a natural funny. They sitting there, sitting there dancing, coach come here, and they both just sitting there dancing. Coach come here. And they both just sitting there trying not to hold it. She walked by, ah, ah, ah. Right?

Starting point is 00:26:51 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're taking away the personalities. Yes. How come there's no group, no inside the WNBA following Britney, Rhyner, this whole season? There really might be. There really one might be be because that's the smart We did come out for entertainment up I'm saying you're like, where is it? Where is it?

Starting point is 00:27:13 She's the biggest thing all summer for the WNB one one There should be following her the whole season. How is she doing? How is she playing? What's going on? Yeah, need new marketing marketing where's your marketing group yeah sure that's the yeah that's the thing like they want people to pay attention to wmba but where's your marketing yep like you that is you're trying to put it on the chokehold like being too conservative yeah we i see more uh beef within the wmba players on ig and i'm like where is this during the season like i see someone crossing one up and like oh, that's what we doing

Starting point is 00:27:46 Yeah, I'm gonna show you what I did to you overseas. Bam, right? You're seeing this Where's this during the season and it's it's it's handicapped come on WNB Let it look let these players be themselves and we have a game. This is the audience Is not more children and nothing like it's more children and women sorry but that's all but that's all they young kids watch is prank videos yeah I'm I say that's all they watch maybe you're trying to compete with the men like you don't need to you got your own lane

Starting point is 00:28:17 where y'all can be creative inside of your own ecosystem to do whatever you want anika you got jewel you got brianna you got um young uh uh kelsey everybody has their own personalities that we're not seeing because it's like oh we got to compete with the guys and you don't like you got candace parker who's commentating for the nba who could be commentating for the wmba and giving more that light more that that brilliance for the NBA who could be commentating for the WNBA and giving more of that light, more of that brilliance for the women. And because she's funny as fuck. Yeah. Like it's a lot of shit that you can add that can give them more notoriety, more visibility, but it's being held up because it's like we have to compete against the guys. It's like you don't. Yeah. I do like that. Candace Parker, Lisa Leslie, like they should be announcing like the guys. It's like you don't. Yeah, but I do like that Candice Park and Lisa Leslie,

Starting point is 00:29:05 like they should be announcing like the games, and they should be getting a million dollars to talk. For women. Like they should be getting a million dollars to talk. They're like. I mean, Candice is still hooping, so I say off night she can get it in. Off night, have her go to other teams. I mean, come on, like.

Starting point is 00:29:18 Booyah. There's no reason that none of the WNBA girls should be going overseas. That's the truth. There shouldn't be. They should be making money here, doing things here that keeps them here. Seven figures for sure. I know you have to produce, but there's easier ways to try to produce in-house. Because I can tell you right there, there's going to be more kids.

Starting point is 00:29:41 You're going to have more kids now that are going to start trolling the WNBA now because of what the kid did. Why is it no WNBA players being sponsored by Lululemon? I remember talking to Ty Young because of that. I said, how come y'all keep going after, like, Weez and – you got Lululemon. I said, you have Victoria's Secret. You have lip gloss lines hair product line

Starting point is 00:30:06 what impart dash in highly tampon line you got all this female product that you use anyway you guys scam scams and a lot of money out there little skinny girl making a billion dollars off of sportswear lip gloss and lipstick and y'all the sports players fuck put it on them yeah it's a lot out there tina thompson wore lipstick the whole year i mean where's her agent yeah hey she was in vegas too she's a molly whopper agent right now i said i miss millions i need cover girl we need cover man cover girl for sure girl so levi's just back me quick to the trolls you mentioned clipper daryl and i want to know a fan, you can see his antics quite annoying.

Starting point is 00:30:47 I like the Riddler mismatch suit and all that other. Or who is it? Harvey. Yeah, Harvey. Two-faced. Two-faced suit. But I want to know, who was the best troll when you were playing? Probably Clipper Darryl.

Starting point is 00:31:02 I mean, we had a few in Oakland my first year and I mean we had a they said front was it a Sean Kent right playing Sean Kent Sean Kent ball fat and dude yeah used to be the rain man now he's just a big puddle of water we have some real trolls there but Clipper Dale would be yeah right Hey, bro, I'm starting to die laughing, man. Wow. We had some real trolls there, but Clipper Darrell would be the... Yeah, probably. Yeah, that's it.

Starting point is 00:31:30 I mean, that's the only one I know. Mike Lee, man. Just him being courtesied. He didn't troll like that. He didn't have to. He was just sitting there. Just him being there. It was like, if you had a bad game, it just felt like he was just saying shit about you.

Starting point is 00:31:42 What's the name was... Bullets had one way back he used to read and shit he used to read like charles barkley but yeah yeah he was a lawyer but they didn't give him his new tickets because i when we were going in when we were getting good i was trying to get him back for the playoffs for uh cleveland lebron but ain't that so weird that they don't take care of fans like that like fans that have come to the game just to do that intro and it's like they cheering hardest and you won't just give them a ticket like i said clipper daryl is so long by like you know what i'm saying like you can get clipper daryl is all time if you don't know clipper daryl at this point i can tell you

Starting point is 00:32:12 if i was an owner i'm making my arena the hardest place to win yeah like even the bucks they got a whole bunch of sticks if you have on the opposite should be there for all those people if you have the opposite jersey you don't even get the first two rows. Laker fans, if I'm the Clippers, there wouldn't be no Laker jerseys. I don't give a shit what banners is up there.

Starting point is 00:32:37 No Laker fan can buy a ticket in the first couple rows. If y'all going to cheer, y'all going to cheer for nosebleeds. Make it hard, yeah. Make you sue me me Clipper Darrell was loud as hell. It's like when it was quiet and all you hear was you That is the point of a troll, to get your attention there. Like, if you're a team, you want trolls because, obviously, we're the opponents. Every team, every player in the NBA knows Clipper Darryl.

Starting point is 00:33:16 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. No, that's true. That's true. What's the dude, Goldstein? Goldstein, but he wasn't a troll. Like I said, when you just looked over there, he's just like... He's just rich as hell.

Starting point is 00:33:28 What fit you got on today, nigga. What you on, dog? What you on over there? Alright, so let's talk about... We hit the Suns a little bit with Bobo, had a very spirited discussion. Let's talk about another situation with the Suns. Earlier this week, Suns parted ways with the only remaining veteran point guard on the roster.

Starting point is 00:33:44 Trading campaign to the Spurs for a future second round pick. Oh, campaign in the future second round pick to the Spurs for a future protected second rounder. First of all, how are you protecting a second, like future, it can't be top? At this point, I'm... How are you protecting a second rounder? Hey man, the way the NBA draft is and what the fuck they looking at these days and how they're Protect a protect your second rounds now You never know who you get

Starting point is 00:34:12 Think about if Denver didn't have that protected if they if Yogi's know if they had traded that one day and boom I'm probably sure that was somebody else's pick that's crazy Yeah, cuz the second round pick is a lot more important valuable now like now than it was like, you know Like everybody wanted to go first round. I was like, man, you just want to get in the right position Yeah, all right. Thank you say I'm on your base. Yeah, you know for somebody to go down and be like You giving me a chance? It's gonna pay off. You gotta stick with me long enough. So Spurs, you know, they got something in Cameron Payne, though. They need a point guard.

Starting point is 00:34:45 So that move saved the Suns, I think, like $26 million in tax penalties. They also got three future second-round picks from their Magic in exchange for a future first-round pick swap. So this means the only true point guard left on the roster is backup Jordan Goodwin, who was a part of that Bradley Beal trade. Seven careers starts with the Wizards at PG. But as of right now, Bradley Be Bill is expected to be the starting point guard for the Sun squad entering training camp. Devin Booker, Eric Gordon, potentially even KD helping to fill that role. So Gil start with you.

Starting point is 00:35:16 Does Bill as the primary PG make sense for the Suns? And from research yeah. I remember I did a study going back like the last 30 championships when you take out Magic Johnson himself. On championship winning teams, the starting point guard averaged 4.7 assists. Wow. Okay. Right? So the point guard that you're looking for that's making your team better didn't win.

Starting point is 00:35:47 Because if I got to make you better, that means you're not that good. Right? I'm doing everything to try to make you look good. Right? If you know how to score, I just get you the ball, you do your own thing. I get you the ball, you do your own thing. Right? We're not going to make each other better in a sense.

Starting point is 00:36:03 Right? Just go do your thing. Now, if I got to sit here and do this it okay you open I treat like that means you're really not that that that good so the stat says that anybody who's averaging seven when you start getting seven assists and in above right it starts getting tricky which your your chances of winning the championship. That speaks a lot about CP then compared to a Chauncey Billups type. To a CP3 type. CP always averaged and never got to that.

Starting point is 00:36:36 And it makes sense what you just said. It makes so much sense if you got to go get niggas the ball instead of just knowing like, hey, he going to get his as long as he got it. We move to offense, boom, boom, boom, he going to get his as long as he got it. We move to offense, boom, boom, boom. He going to get his. Instead of got to get you the ball, got to get him the ball, got to get them the ball. It's like it don't work like that down the stretch. Yo, question.

Starting point is 00:36:58 Yo, who has KD made better? Damn, we going there on a Thursday. Huh? Thursday. No, no, no. No, I'm asking because, no, this is his team, right? So this is his team. So he's definitely making it. Is it his team, though, or is it Booker's team? Brooklyn was his team.

Starting point is 00:37:13 Go from Brooklyn. No, no, no. Okay, no, the conversation is, what do we consider making someone better? What does that actually mean? Like, okay, like who's, like, LeBron, right? Like, when guys play with LeBron Do they become better like K love?

Starting point is 00:37:30 Yeah, yeah, I'm asked like to K love the decay love become a better player and the Tristan Thompson become a better player today So I'm asking you I'm asking you and I'm just asking you like these got boss. I really know the guys who are Making like who are running the teams, right, and who makes these decisions, when you come play with them, are you getting better? In history, has that actually been an actual fact? Yeah, Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant.

Starting point is 00:37:58 Okay, so who did Michael Jordan make better? Everybody around him. Who? Everybody around him. Steve Kerr. The mindset, the mentality, everybody around him. John Paxton. Everybody around him. everybody around Steve Kerr everybody right the mindset the mentality everybody around John back hold on everybody so everybody around so when so Jordan made them better so when Jordan because his level of play so man his confidence in them because yeah and when he left and when

Starting point is 00:38:16 he left they still went to the Eastern Conference Finals yeah they played better so no no Bob said they still no no when we start making someone better means in theory it means this, right? You're trash today. I somehow made you better, and then when I leave, you're sustaining that betterness because you're a better player. Not necessarily, Gil. Of course not. It's instilling confidence in you to go out and play and get better as a player individually.

Starting point is 00:38:40 You hear what I'm saying, though, right? I know what you're saying because everyone says the same thing. This player, he don't get nobody better. Again. Well, help me become a champion. You're a champion, right? So I'm coming to your team because you're a champion, right? If you're a champion, I'm coming to your team because I want to play with a champion.

Starting point is 00:38:57 And I want to know what it feels like. So what do I have to do to become a champion? Do what I do. Okay, and I'm doing it. So why it's not working? So why am I not working so why am i not winning a championship but that is not getting your back so why are we not winning championships okay when we say get something i'm asking you know what i'm saying why are we not

Starting point is 00:39:13 touching the finals what i'm saying is you're saying getting someone better which means this if i'm a high level player and you're not and you come to my team and you're watching my work ethic and you're following what i'm doing you're following what i'm to my team and you're watching my work ethic and you're following what I'm doing you're following what I'm doing I'm giving you the example to be a better player right then yes I made you a better player okay but if you're just gonna come on a team and you shot 0 for 30 and just because I passed you the ball because fucking four people are doubling me and you go 0 for 30 no I can't make you a better player. You gotta work yourself. Right exactly. Okay

Starting point is 00:39:48 so did Golden State make KD a better player? No. I was about to say that. They didn't make KD. You're lying. You're lying. How did Golden State make him a better player? If he was an MVP. The mentality. The mentality of winning. The team culture. The chemistry of the team. The culture.

Starting point is 00:40:03 Everything starts with mentality and culture. That's what I'm saying. What is your criteria of making better? He is a MVP. He's led the league in scoring. You just added another Bugatti. He would have never left. He would have never left if he didn't want to go into a better situation.

Starting point is 00:40:17 Better situation doesn't make him a better player. He's already a Bugatti. No, he was. If you're a Bugatti. He was. How about this? He is a Bugatti in the wintertime. And he's a Bugatti where No, he was if you're good. He was But he is a Bugatti in in the wintertime He's a Bugatti where it's snowing all the time so we can never see this and I'm body on the road

Starting point is 00:40:31 I'm not I'm just asking the question like like like all this like that Yo, like players that go run run to play with other players. It's like whoa Like are we gonna win? Like you don't say like are we gonna touch the finals? But that's not the question you're saying you asking Kyrie can't Kyrie came in play with winning right James came and played it Brooklyn was a disaster okay so what is Phoenix gonna do these next two years but that's not if they're not touching the final then it's always but that's not the

Starting point is 00:40:57 question your question says does he make pool has he right so if I'm coming over to wait who sucked I'm waiting my time coming over here to play with you but that's not the court. That's not the city. Make did he make Devin Booker better? No Devin Booker's already good. Okay, so they okay So what did when he went to the state when he went to go to say he didn't make stuff better They make him better. They didn't make you Of course not Clay Thompson already good You didn't have to make Steph better. Of course not. So, are we asking you to play Thompson? Already good.

Starting point is 00:41:27 Steve Kerr. You just added me. No, we're teaching you how to be a champion. Just like LeBron. I came to Miami. Just like LeBron. I came to Miami, right, to learn to be a champion, to become better. But you know, the way, the way.

Starting point is 00:41:39 Talk that shit. You're not like. You're a boogati. You got game. You're a boogati. You're a boogati. You're a boogati. You can't get to the top. You're just... Because I...

Starting point is 00:41:49 That's what I'm saying. You're saying regular shit regular people say. No, I'm not. If I'm a Bugatti and I have a bunch of... You're not a Bugatti. You're not a Bugatti. Okay, go. You're not a Bugatti.

Starting point is 00:41:58 You're not a Bugatti. Because you're not a Bugatti. You're a Lamborghini. You're not a Bugatti yet. Okay. You're not a Bugatti. You became a Bugatti when you got that championship. Yes, you became a Bugatti. That championship made you a Bugatti. You're a Lamborghini. You're not a Bugatti yet. You became a Bugatti when you got that championship.

Starting point is 00:42:06 You became a Bugatti. That championship made you a Bugatti. Because of the people that you're around. So if you're around, go to state, right, and you leave them and you win two championships. I'm expecting the same thing. Well, teach me. Because I'm ready to be a champion today.

Starting point is 00:42:21 Why do rich people hate with rich people? To become richer, right? A rich person... I will do everything. Why do rich people hate with rich people to become richer, right? That's not accurate let you I let you talk Rich and I'm hanging around broke people right? I'm a Bugatti or Lamborghini and I have Honda's in front of me Of course, I do not know how to do what I'm doing But I am this person already you put me with a group who's just like me who put you put Katie will know Katie was not like him Katie was never like those guys over there and go to say we already had one we are I already went to the fight.

Starting point is 00:43:06 I'm already MVP. I'm already him. And you're adding me with players. There's a reason you called me. There's a reason you called me. No, they didn't call him. And that reason is LeBron James and the Cavs. Who didn't call him?

Starting point is 00:43:21 Who didn't call Kevin McMahon? He's in Antarctica. He's in Antarctica. He came and took the bait. He's in Antarctica. He's in Antarctica. You took the bait. He needs to go to San Francisco where it's hot, where he can actually drive the fucking car. How about this? How about this? When we say, so we can get back to the topic.

Starting point is 00:43:38 Who sucks on, who's number 15 on the Suns? We probably don't know. Well, you know what? How about this? Kirby andving him go to state they made players better right right yeah go see your winners yeah winners yeah amazing winners yep for sure yep winners yep yep winners make you better yep that's how many championships they got they got four four champions yeah that's right it's a winning program. Yep. Curry. Winner. Yep. Clay. Winner. Yep. Draymond.

Starting point is 00:44:06 Even Kevin Durant. How come the fifth, not even 15, 25 to 30 people that were teammates with these guys couldn't get into the NBA the year after they won a championship? They didn't make those players better? Who? Huh? Who? I mean, you got to remember this. There's a 15 player. There's a 14 player.

Starting point is 00:44:26 There's a 13, 12. Those contracts, y'all don't even know these motherfuckers no more, right? Jabell McGee, he went off and still did his thing. That was great. Sean Livingston, he's still who he is. I mean, these are guys that, I mean, you know, these are guys that. I'm talking about 15, 14, and 13. But who's to say they didn't get better? They wasn'ts and 13 But what who's to say they didn't get better did they wasn't going to in it?

Starting point is 00:44:47 But who's to say they did it was better because there wasn't an NBA. Maybe they didn't have the opportunity I'm not even going that far. I'm talking about the 10 niggas that are playing. I don't care about What I'm saying, I'm talking about everybody that's playing on a championship team There's players on there, right? That's not gonna be in the NBA after they win a championship Right. I mean that goes for anybody any year. We don't know what's players on there, right? That's not gonna be in the NBA after they win a championship Right. I mean that goes for anybody any year. We don't know what's going so what happens is I Bring in more talent to add to my talent that is not considered making someone better, right? We're talking about Michael Jordan, right? Who comes Dennis rock people are coming to help build the legacy

Starting point is 00:45:26 I don't need to make you better if you're already a better shooter I just want to add your shooting you're a better shooter too I want to add you now I can't say I made you guys better shooters yeah because I'm getting you I'm getting you better shots no you can shoot but I'm getting you better shots but you're already the shooter yes but I'm getting you better shots though You like a non shooter is becoming a shooter because the star players know Gilbert. That's not that's not the car He shot test was his name was his name who since you're but the reason why y'all couldn't get over the hump because you were Playing with a bunch of uh, so what is his name? That's what that's why what does the corner? I think that's the bed. That's the example. He's the power for but he's like five. that's like six one for who warriors bucks what's his name what's his name angles pj tucker huh he won a championship right yannis right for sure how much better did he get he got 30 he got 30 for three the next year after

Starting point is 00:46:16 how much better he got better he got better he's the corner three he was still he can shoot he was i know you can't go to stat But the staff man can't go to fat You can't go to the stats He was just fighting with the next year he the lecture he left right he went to Miami there was fighting right everywhere everywhere he's been after that he's been fighting so I guess the question did the players make it better or did the situation make it better the situation of being but you take a bit but now you put him with Steph and Clay and all these guys on the court who you supposed to double right but now you can say the same thing you take them to

Starting point is 00:47:00 Brooklyn it should be that same got the You got the same formula. You ain't playing with Hondas over there in Brooklyn. Katie wasn't playing with Hondas over there in Brooklyn. His team wasn't healthy. Don't give them excuses, Gil. What I'm saying is you're trying to say I can make a sorry better play. Yes, you can.

Starting point is 00:47:22 No, you can't. You've got to make yourself fucking better.. Yes, you can. Yes, you can. No, you can't. Yes, you can. You've got to make yourself fucking better. I can fluff you. You can't. Because if you come in here watching me work every day, you're going to get in there.

Starting point is 00:47:31 How the fuck do I make 10 passes to P.J. Tucker but he only averages two? That's fine. How is that better? Don't look at P.J. Tucker. He's just a number. I'm doing my thing

Starting point is 00:47:40 to get you open but you can't make a shot. You know why? But wait, Gil. You're talking about offense. You're talking about offense. He's talking about offense. KD could make PJ

Starting point is 00:47:49 a better defensive player because now I got to focus. I'm not focused on hitting the corner shot. I'm focusing on stopping this guy. Because I'm playing harder because we got offensive threat. I don't have to shoot three. How does Kevin Durant actually make him better? Because I want to stop. Is he working with him? I want to stop. Hold on. Is he working with him? Yes, I'm in the to shoot three. How does Kevin Durant actually make him better?

Starting point is 00:48:05 Because I want to stop. Is he working with him? I want to stop. Hold on. Is he working with him? Yes, I'm in the gym every day. Is he sitting there running slides with him? You don't know. We don't know.

Starting point is 00:48:12 We don't know. Defensive rotations. We don't know. Defensive rotations. Who's made Curry better on defense? And they got two all-embracing. Curry has made himself better on defense because he see what Draymond Green. Draymond Green.

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Starting point is 00:48:28 Draymond Green. Draymond Green. Draymond Green. Draymond Green. Draymond Green. Draymond Green. Draymond Green. Draymond Green.

Starting point is 00:48:31 Draymond Green. Draymond Green. Draymond Green. Draymond Green. Draymond Green. Draymond Green. Draymond Green. is so better why why why why why the point why because he cares because he cares to me so he went in there got stronger got better I'm a guard I'm a guard I'm a guard the guards I'm gonna do

Starting point is 00:48:56 everything because I got because the leader that's what a leader does I'm not drunk that's right so so if I'm if I'm the leader and I'm picking these guys well then these guys got it this is what we talked about yesterday is what we talked about leadership you don't feed off me leadership question for all three you got leaders now you were in now you're gonna say right there now you're in Washington playing so you have to make everybody better. So, so, Steph took it upon himself to make himself better on defense to help the team. Why? Because he has defenders on there.

Starting point is 00:49:37 He has. Because the leader is a defensive anchor. And he knows we can't win unless, Steph, you play better defense. So Draymond in his ear like hey listen man i need you to stop giving straight line drives at the top and focus on your defense a little bit more steph know that yes and he knows that but he did it himself because of what that's but when we say kevin durant going out there working out six, seven hours a day. If the player does not put it on himself to watch him and do what he does, how are you blaming KD for this? I'm not blaming him.

Starting point is 00:50:14 He asked the question. Hold on. But then you give Curry credit for looking at Draymond and K Clay and say, oh, I need to do better. I'm letting these guys down. How on the other side? How come nobody's looking at Kevin Durant and say, you know what? I need to do better. Listen, I got Kevin Durant's fault because Kevin Durant don't have nobody in his ear like he didn't go to state.

Starting point is 00:50:38 That's it. And Kevin Durant. Yes, that's why. That's it. Who is he making better? That's the question. Someone has to look at him and say, I need to do better. But you got to lead by example.

Starting point is 00:50:47 Okay. First. So he doesn't. First. I don't know. I don't know. Getting in the gym and just shooting jumpers all day, that ain't nothing. It don't mean nothing.

Starting point is 00:50:57 It's like you need, like they need somebody in that circle. They need a PJ Tucker in that circle. What does PJ got to talk about you getting your motherfucking ass in the gym? Man, listen, man. You need dogs because you need a dog. You need a PJ Tucker in that circle. What does PJ got to talk about you getting your motherfucking ass in a jail? You need dogs because you need a dog. You need a dog. Actually, you obviously don't have a dog. Raymond was that dog for the war. You don't have a dog.

Starting point is 00:51:14 You're fighting against what I'm saying, but you're using the example that I'm using. But you never answered the question of what he said. All I said was, who has he made better? Who has he made better? Because I can name a lot of people. LeBron, Mike, Kobe, all these guys was who has he made better who has he made better because I can name a lot of people LeBron Mike Kobe all these guys everybody I just named him oh he has to push Parker and all them did he make them better with his average of five of them he made him better I'll be for sure yeah sure sure Andrew Biden oh sure yes yes Luke Watson yet

Starting point is 00:51:42 you want to go look at the numbers? What is the number? We are winning. Gilbert, stop doing that. What did he do to make them better? Shit, man. He won a championship. He won a championship for them, which makes them better. He won it for them. How about this?

Starting point is 00:51:57 How about this? He did it by himself. How about this? He did it by himself. He did it by himself if I if we if you're averaging right 30 and I average 10 and I work with you all summer long right yeah I work out with you all summer long personally yeah and I go into the season from my 10 I average 30 also we lose all the games did you make me better they know you didn't make me better I mean but is that the game plan Did you make me better? Thank you.

Starting point is 00:52:26 You didn't make me better? Is that the game plan for you to average 30 next year? Was that the game plan for you? Are we working out this summer for you to average 30 like me? No. I'm just working out so you can get ready to knock this shot down. When I need you to. And I knocked it down and I'm averaging 30. You're not averaging 30.

Starting point is 00:52:42 You made me better. You made me better. Better world peace. Get better plan with Kobe. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes, he did.

Starting point is 00:52:50 What do you mean? How? Mentality. Everything is mentality up here with basketball. To be a champion, you have to have a mentality. You guys are using non-basketball people's opinion about what. We're using our opinion. We're using our own opinion.

Starting point is 00:53:03 Did Magic Johnson make Kareem Abdul better yeah it's Kareem a they both they just two great players that play together it painted a canvas I think Maggie make each other better when you love her I can't turn the Honda into a Ferrari I can't they're under did Isaiah Thomas make Dennis Rodman be no, they are who they are. They just all came together and played with the USA team. They're all great players coming together. It's a system under Coach K.

Starting point is 00:53:33 It's a system. You have to know how to win. You got to down yourself. That's why I'm asking. Do you make people better? Can you make people better? Say that again. Say that again.

Starting point is 00:53:43 We might have missed it. You have to be sorry for me to make you better. I don't like that again play that say it again we might have we might have missed it you have to say it again please for me to make you better I don't like that you have to be sorry I don't like the theory of you're trying to take credit because you added me to your team to get over a hump now because we won a championship you got everybody better Kobe it's not a take credit more success you want more victories I mean and Kobe Bryant said it in a commercial. But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, better, but let's let's talk Kobe 2008 redeem. He was still on the team on George all these guys are still on the team that's been riding with Kobe and they just went and got they got Andrew bottom in The draft. Yep, right. They traded you all the saw The model was over there when they were struggling. So what are we doing? Like what are you talking about? So we got added pieces

Starting point is 00:54:42 Okay, we added pieces exactly. It's what I said. But that's why Kobe. We added pieces. Kobe, what do you want? I'm going to add him because I can help him be better. Yep. I can win with him. I can win with him.

Starting point is 00:54:54 I can win with him. Yeah, because I can make him better. He has to understand my logic. You got to buy into it. He got to buy into me. This is my shit. This is my shit. This is my shit.

Starting point is 00:55:03 I can't get you to the basket because I don't have no shooters. Let me add you. Let me add you. Isn't that what lebron was complaining about in cleveland hey man i need another point guard i mean hey man i need a shooter hey man i need a rebounder and when they added that that stole we won the championship my point because he had that he could make better he's like look i need a point guard who can come in and listen to me when I tell him, hey, man, I need you to come do this shit. You know what making better is, then? I take the same sorry fucking players that I'm complaining about and make them better to what I need.

Starting point is 00:55:38 Not sub you out to bring you in. That's not making you better. I can't do nothing with you, so I'm getting rid of you and bring here's your point This is your point when they got IT you are in there grows D Wade all them niggas on that Cleveland team This is what he's saying. Yeah. Oh, I'm gonna bring in niggas that I don't need to make better These niggas is already Lamborghini and what happened? Because you know Don't need to get better. They already, but they didn't buy into

Starting point is 00:56:06 the King's system. And it didn't work. And it didn't because he needed niggas like J.R. Smith, Sumford, Tristan Thompson, niggas that he could make better and buy into that shit. You're proving my fucking point. You're proving my point.

Starting point is 00:56:23 Making someone better is I have this group. I can't do not win the group and I make this group better I can't get rid of them bringing other people and say I made these other people better So him making the team better meaning he kept that same group and made them better He didn't he got rid of the group in brook why did he get rid of the group gilbert because he couldn't make them he ain't get rid of nothing we gotta get better we're from the gm everybody we have to get better right we got to make moves right all right braun what do you want all right that's what i want boom boom boom i know

Starting point is 00:56:58 they're gonna buy in boom this is what we're gonna do they're gonna listen to me everybody did the same thing to kobe everybody listen to me. I'm just bringing up Katie. Just ask You're saying I say But you're trying to go against what I'm saying but proving it I'm saying how you get someone better is I take someone who's not good and I I enhance him right I can't get ripped hold on I can't say I can't play with this guy because he can't do nothing get rid of them and then bring in someone I can and then you say I made him better no I found a piece that fed me better than it did you for me to say I got someone better is saying no no, I don't need you.

Starting point is 00:57:45 I'm going to turn him into what I need. Then we went together. Right? You're saying the same thing that I'm saying. You're getting rid of a group, bringing in better pieces that listen to me. And then you're giving me the credit for them listening to me. But I didn't do nothing different. Yes, you did.

Starting point is 00:58:02 What did I do different? I changed the mindset of a great player that came in here. I made him better. I made him better. Or did I? Or did I? Or did I? Or did I?

Starting point is 00:58:08 Or did I? Or did LeBron make Caleb better? Did he make KD better? I mean, AD better. That's the question. Yes, yes. Did LeBron make KD

Starting point is 00:58:17 better? Yes, yes. To win a championship in the bubble. Yes, everything. In the bubble. In the bubble. The bubble, boys.

Starting point is 00:58:23 No. You know why I make you better? Because your whole demeanor now changes. That's why it's better. I'm playing with LeBron. Yeah, because now I know. bubble yes everything in the bubble the bubble boys no you know why i make you better because your whole demeanor now changes that's why i'm playing with the bronze yeah because because now i know your whole demeanor is better you have an example of somebody making somebody better someone making someone better yeah helping helping to make making them helping whatever like we talked about the story of the 2008 redeem team these guys were all great players right but

Starting point is 00:58:44 they see kobe working out 6 a.m 7 a.. They coming back from the club. It's like he made them better They all said man, oh he became better players watching Kobe Bryant lead by example lead by example What do me what do they do? They got up earlier. They got up earlier. They were like man. That's a little bit 530 We were up at 8 and he's up at 530. We doing something different than he is Did you watch the did you watch the redeem theme did you watch the dog are you listen are you do you just talk just to Go again Do you listen we have to bring this it up or do you listen to the shit that comes out of your mouth i originally said i can't get a player better he has to want

Starting point is 00:59:32 to do it himself then you keep fucking saying the same thing they watch him so they decided to get up they were already clubbing he's coming down if they're not watching him, Gilbert, they're not getting up and doing that shit on their own. That's the fucking point, nigga. What is wrong with you? You're saying what I'm saying? What is wrong with you? If they're not watching Kobe Bryant, who are the fuck, what's gonna change

Starting point is 00:59:58 their mentality? Watching Kobe Bryant. If they, if they, so Kobe Bryant, Kobe Bryant. Say it again, please. I'm just saying, Gilbert. Now, if Kobe was like, fuck, Kobe Bryant. Say it again, please. I'm just saying, Gil. Now, if Kobe was like, fuck this, let's just go to the club. We don't need to work out. Nobody.

Starting point is 01:00:09 Is that making them better? Is that making them worse? What is Kobe doing? Showing them his work ethic. What is Kobe doing to make them better? Showing him his work ethic. Is he showing them his work ethic? Or did they catch him coming down

Starting point is 01:00:25 Oh my lord, did they catch him? Can I leave? They're at the club, right? Am I not? Are we talking the same thing? They're at a club. Did they catch him? Coming drunk from a club. They, the whole team coming drunk from a club.

Starting point is 01:00:41 He's going down. He's doing what he do. Coming down and they're like, what are you doing? I don't know what y'all doing. I'm going to work out. They felt embarrassed. He didn't say, hey, y'all need to come work out with me. He just doing what he do to his greatness. They felt embarrassed. He didn't do nothing different. they seen what the best player does they followed him they wanted to be better they wanted to do what Kobe does because they seen what greatness is Kobe didn't tell me to come to the gym at three o'clock I heard what he did and I got in the cab he didn't pay for my cab I did that and went there and watched him play. I never played with Kobe Bryant

Starting point is 01:01:27 But his work ethic triggered me why did his work ethic triggered me? Now how the fuck can Kobe get someone better? in you guys's theory without using my Argument coach came brought Kobe on for a reason you guys' theory without using my argument. Coach K brought Kobe on for a reason. He said, we need Kobe Bryant on this team in order to transfer and transform these guys' mentality. When they see Kobe Bryant work, they're going to change.

Starting point is 01:02:02 Coach K said this. We need Kobe going to change. Coach K said this. We need Kobe Bryant to win. We need him. Not because he's Kobe Bryant, but because they need to see his work ethic. They need to see what it really takes to be a champion.

Starting point is 01:02:17 Then why the fuck were they in the club? Why did they win? Why were they in the club? Why didn't Coach k bring him in to do this so why the fuck are they in the club in the first place why did they win you're asking the wrong question gill what they you're asking the right arguing they are doing they are doing what they do and that's why they're where they're at that's why they're not on kobe's level right that's why they're not on kobe's level using my argument but trying to reverse it no we're not i'm saying i can't make you better in the sense of

Starting point is 01:02:56 i sit here and just pass you the ball and you become a better player like that nobody said that you have to work on your own whatever Whatever to help you. If I go in a gym shooting three times a day and that triggers you to want to get in the gym, that is not me doing anything. It's inspiration. That is you doing something. It's called inspiration. You're inspiring. If I see my best player going hard, why would I I need to go work hard on what I can do best I want to be like Mike. I want to be I want to be like Like Mike, okay. Okay if I could be like Mike Like Mike you don't even know what his argument is

Starting point is 01:03:37 So how about this the same Kobe Bryant comes down the same elevator, right? Same players walk in that elevator drunk like they were before Kobe Bryant comes down the same elevator right? Same players walk in that elevator drunk like they were before. And they don't come back down to work out. Did Kobe make them better? You're talking about one day. You're talking about one day.

Starting point is 01:04:02 But what happened the next day? Hermelo was in there working out with him. You're talking about one day. You're talking about one day. But what happened the next day? What happened the next day? Hermela was in there. Hermela was in there working out with him. How about this? Hermela was in there. He's reaching out.

Starting point is 01:04:10 He's reaching out. Carmela Anthony. What if they don't see Kobe Bryant in that elevator that day? Oh, I bet you they hear about it. What? They're going to hear about it. They didn't hear about it before they went to the fucking club? Nobody heard Kobe was going to the gym at 4 in the morning. Probably didn't probably didn't probably that was they want that wasn't day one

Starting point is 01:04:28 That was not day one. What day was it by 10? They know that means not that first nine days. He was doing his thing. I'm saying against me. No, I'm not I think I'm not against you I'm not against you at all. My thing is your family. My thing is I personally myself Can't make him better. Right? I can wake him up every fucking day if he don't want to work.

Starting point is 01:05:09 Yeah. If he doesn't want to do the work. That's true. You can't blame me. I'm doing what I'm doing. You can't blame me. But if I'm doing something that triggers him to want to get in the gym. We can praise you.

Starting point is 01:05:22 You can't say. We can praise you. You can't. I didn't do nothing. You did it. You're giving credit to people. Who don't deserve it. I am not giving credit.

Starting point is 01:05:36 To who? To a star player. Because he did what he normally do. And I said fuck that. I want to be like him. I got to give you the credit. For that I want to be like him that's since I gotta give you the credit for saying I want to be like him and you're tapping into your own ability okay y'all both happen it's an all ability because you got inspired if you go to him every day like fuck that you need to go to the gym

Starting point is 01:05:58 let's just go get drunk so so do you know are you making fire words do you not want to be inspiring it sounds like you do not want to be inspiring? It sounds like you do not want to be an inspiring figure. Because when you inspire someone, your story from being zero to 100 is inspiring. Remember that commercial you did? Remember the commercial you did with Adidas?

Starting point is 01:06:19 That was fucking inspiring. Who? You know who got that message? Who? Damien Lillard. How many millions of people who didn't get it? What do who got that message? Who? Damien Lillard. How about the other one? That's why he worked at the city. How many millions of people who didn't get it? What do you mean didn't get it? What do you mean?

Starting point is 01:06:29 No, because they didn't have the ability. Why? They didn't have the ability. They didn't have the ability. My story couldn't get them better? It's the same fucking story. It's inspiring to the people who can actually go out there and do it. Exactly. What do you mean? The people who can actually go out there and do it. Exactly.

Starting point is 01:06:45 What do you mean? The people who can actually go out there. It's a small percentage of niggas that can apply. Are you not listening to what you're saying? We're saying the same thing. You don't want to be inspiring. If you want to be great, you're going to be great. So who's more inspiring? Okay, so who's more inspiring out of all these guys right now that own their team?

Starting point is 01:07:01 You got LeBron. You got Steph. You got KD. Draymond. Draymond dream on dream on Giannis Giannis Joe Joe Joe kids now right so out of all those like who's the most inspiring player at all whoever works the hardest it's it's a Giannis yeah this is probably the more I'm saying is think about it wrong but how many people but I gotta What I'm saying is, like, I don't like the theory of you out there playing your ass off. This is the theory. This is what I'm saying. You out there averaging 25. You're going hard three times a day doing your work ethic.

Starting point is 01:07:38 And then someone in the media says, who has he gotten better? Because your team wants to go party all night right you're the example you're doing what you do but then we come to your team right and we're like oh bj's in there hey we're going to join you and then we win a championship you didn't do nothing different you just had other players who decided that's what I want to Exactly my doing is why they want to be champions So so you right so you're you're getting credit for this but you don't get credit for the 32 people who didn't want to do it You do nothing different. You're trying to get credit and give credit to people who's not doing that But being themselves

Starting point is 01:08:22 No as people who are buying into what I do and people who don't those who don't there's a lot are not going to get better but those who don't do what i'm doing by leading by example are not going to get better but those who come in and they do apply it they're like man i really appreciate his work ethic because he didn't have to change anything he was losing with niggas who didn't want to follow him i came in and i followed him and we won that's the point hold on oh say it again you did i want you to keep saying he's acting like he's saying this he's not you're not saying this i said i can't get you better you have to get yourself so you're telling me a story against my story you're no I'm not. I'm saying you inspire me. I came in and seen you do this.

Starting point is 01:09:10 I got inspired. I did this to be a better person. It's I. If you are not there for me to see, Gil, I'm not doing it either. But you had an impact on his ability to follow you. But what did I do? How did I inspire you? had an impact on his his ability to follow you if i'm not if i but what did i do what how did i inspire by show you i'm showing you tell the story all the time of showing up to go go watch kobe

Starting point is 01:09:29 workout early right did that he inspired did that inspire you to the story yes to go work out so would you say that kobe helped you get better how can you was he was he rebound was he great that's a good question hold on answer the question please How many... Did he rebound for me? Did he show me moves? The fuck did he do? You said that he was in the gym doing things that you was like, I need to do these things. Because Kobe Bryant...

Starting point is 01:09:54 You said, I snuck in and I seen Kobe Bryant's work ethic. And I said, oh. I seen Kobe Bryant... He said, oh. I got to change. How many... So basically, we're saying... Baron, rewind the footage of what this nigga said. How many, how many, so basically, so basically we're saying, Baron, rewind the footage

Starting point is 01:10:05 of what this nigga said. So basically, so basically your theory is, because I use an example of the theory that I go by, that you say it sucks, but you're using the same theory, that I watch,

Starting point is 01:10:18 I hear something, I go and watch it for myself. I don't talk to Kobe. He don't give me no words of advice. I'm watching. So you're saying this player didn't even play with me, but he got me better than everybody on this team. Because you apply.

Starting point is 01:10:33 That's around him every single day. But you apply. Is that what y'all want to go with? You apply. I became a three-time All-Star, three-time All-NBA player, right, on a video game, and Kobe did more for me than he did the the hundred people he played with because you had a lot of ability I had their ability no

Starting point is 01:10:50 no you can't give me the ability you got to give it to Kobe why cuz he made me better why can't both of you you actually have if you go watch that but give you go watch that you're like damn that's cool I'm not gonna do any of that shit I'm not gonna do none of that I'm not gonna do none of that so but you did but you did all of that but you're doing that and you was like i know i'm about to change this i'm about to change my whole work ethic because i watched this do something different now i'm good enough to take this i i'm good enough i to take what he did and take it to. To take it to another level. That's inspiration. The point is that you can't, that he's not going to make you do it.

Starting point is 01:11:28 But if you see it, you have to take it upon yourself. No matter what, you can go wake up Brandon every single morning. Let's go work out. If it's hard, it's not in it. But you're at least doing your part as a leader, right? Trying to help somebody get better. So he was my leader? No, I'm saying if you tell him let's go work out every day, you're doing your part.

Starting point is 01:11:44 So, so, so. You need a tell him let's go work out every day, you're doing your part. So, so, so. You need a leader. Who's the leader on the team? So hold on. So his argument is still flawed. Because what does KD do? If KD works out three, four, five times a day and nobody watches him.

Starting point is 01:12:00 He can't inspire nobody. Okay. And we don't know. So that means they don't have a leader then. So that means Phoenix doesn't have a leader. Hold on. Hold on hold on because you could walk into a go to state and see a practice facility you could see steph and clay over there making shots i bet you everybody gonna try to outdo it or try okay but but what did clay them do besides do what they're doing inspire everybody's inspiration if they're great if somebody wants to be great too. That's the I don't have to do that That's the point that means you're not doing nothing

Starting point is 01:12:27 You're not making anybody better how you're just doing you and you fighting people that's what that's what greatness That's what grace what greatness does if I'm every greatness doesn't have to go out and you sound stupid from your original statement So who's the leader of Phoenix Suns right now cuz that's who they gonna follow. So who's the leader? Who Suns right now? Because that's who they're going to follow. So who's the leader? Who's the leader on Golden State? Draymond Green, Steph Curry. It's going to be one leader. No, it could be two.

Starting point is 01:12:52 Oh, it can't. Oh, no, it could be two. Okay, then over there we're going to say Bradley Bill, Katie, and Booker. Great. Okay. Second round and out. Second round and out. They would then inspire the rest of the team.

Starting point is 01:13:07 To do what? To be like around and out they would then expire the rest of the team to do what to be to be second Round it up so Speaking of somebody who might need some a no But you know somebody who might need some inspiration from those three DeAndre Ayton is one of the most polarizing players in the league and The Sun's big man is keenly aware that during the interview with eyewitness news Bahamas Aiden said he can feel all the hate and he wants to change the narrative. Well you better do it seven times a week.

Starting point is 01:13:29 Okay so how about this, can I ask you something? I think I'm the guy a lot of people point at and I see it and feel it but mainly what I've been working on five to six days a week since we've lost is just motivating myself to change the narrative of what people think about me. You know? Because no matter how you put it, I feel like I have no fans out here. You know? And I can feel it because the whole world is saying it. And my goal this whole summer is to change the narrative.

Starting point is 01:13:59 Just unlock whatever it is and just completely just focus on me and change the whole thing. You get some smoke? Well, he should have said seven days a week because he's going to need seven days a week. Five, six. We talked about this in the chat, Gil. Should he have just lied to you? I'm working out eight days a week.

Starting point is 01:14:18 Eight and a half. Five, six. Now I got a question for you two. Okay. Y'all heard what he said, right? Yep. Y'all heard what he said, right? Yep. Y'all heard what he said? Yeah, about getting better, all the hate.

Starting point is 01:14:29 Yeah, all that. Okay. So if Suns win a championship. Which they won't, but go ahead. No, if they won a championship, who got him better? Well, that's a big if. I mean, it's a big if. No, if they win.

Starting point is 01:14:43 If they win a championship, who got them better? Who got them guy no they win who got them better who got them better yeah who got them better if huh stuck huh ain't no stuff who got him better better oh okay i mean i don't i mean i don't need i mean i don't know but the question was i mean i don't know who is kd making better that means that kd don't get credit for making him better he gets credit for himself right i just i just want to know who the leader of that team is. He didn't ask. DeAndre Ayton can make himself better. He asked who has KD made.

Starting point is 01:15:10 DeAndre Ayton might not even be there in February, so it don't matter. They're not, though. But they're not going to win a championship. He said he has to himself. But that wasn't a question we were talking about. So if they win a championship, right, we can't say Katie got him better

Starting point is 01:15:26 Was all my whole point he he's getting himself better Well, he better he feels like he he has to do it himself That's been the point because he said he has no friends because everybody hates him. He's reading the internet calling him dog shit Yes, so he's I mean he's not getting inspiration from his teammates. He's gonna do it himself Right I mean he could do it himself all you teammates. So he's going to do it himself. Right. I mean, he can do it himself all he wants, but he's going to have to come in as a team and figure it out. Yes, he does. So all that doing it yourself.

Starting point is 01:15:49 You can't do it by yourself. You're not that good. You can't do it by yourself. He ain't that good. They're not. Right? We give him. You're giving a major hypothetical.

Starting point is 01:15:58 Let's talk about Aiden a little bit. So Aiden struggled in the second round, lost to the Nuggets, faced heavy criticism after sitting out game six with the ribcatures i already know we're not gonna talk about this i already know it's gonna come back to this but average 18 to 10 during a regular season but only 14 and 10 or 13 excuse me and 10 during the playoffs so let's let's talk about deandre and then we get back to the kd make it better and all that shit. We're done with that. That is awesome. We're good. You see that spirit?

Starting point is 01:16:25 I already know we're not going to do it. It's Thursday. I just asked a question. Hey, can we get some gentlemen's cut in here? We need. We don't want to make you look. We need Mr. B. We don't want to make you look like this.

Starting point is 01:16:34 We need Mr. B. I don't want to be an inspiring figure to the youth, bro. I just asked a question. It's looking crazy the fact that you don't think that you can inspire someone to do better and when you prove that kobe bryant inspired you so it don't make sense to continue down this path of you not believing what i said you can make someone better bro that's weird i said that at the beginning no you said that at the beginning you just go against me so you don't even listen to what i'm going to say if i say my favorite color is red and then you be like no, blue, blue, blue, blue.

Starting point is 01:17:07 By the end of it, you end up saying red. You always do it. But that's not what's happening, Gilbert. That's what happened. That is what you're hearing. That's what I said. I said I can't physically do it. My work ethic has to make you better.

Starting point is 01:17:21 Gilbert, you said it. For you to say no, then say the same thing. Gilbert, you said you was going to beat me in the shootout. You said you could not lose. You said you would not lose. I would not lose. And then you fucking lost. So everything you're saying now don't even make sense.

Starting point is 01:17:37 It don't make no sense. It's like, oh, now you're saying your word. I'm saying this in blue and yellow. I said, nigga, you're not going to beat me. I'm not going to lose. And then your ass fucking lost. And then it's like, how can we even believe anything you say anymore? Because it's like you just standing on shit just to just to fucking have an argument. Nigga, listen to what you be saying. You don't want to be. I can't inspire somebody to go in and be better. Yes, you can. You're a leader. That's what you do. You don't have to change anything you literally go in there be

Starting point is 01:18:06 yourself i'm a leading by example follow my fucking lead i come in here five i shoot till seven i come back in at 12 i shoot till one i come back in at four i shoot till seven nigga if you can't follow this fucking mantra and become a better player you need to go to another fucking team. That's inspiration. That's the same thing I said at the beginning. Oh, Lord. Try to change subjects. No, no, no.

Starting point is 01:18:34 Because we're not going to go through that. The fans love it. What does Aiden need to do to give respect? You know how we talked about yesterday about changing the narrative? Remember you were talking about how we put the narrative on Bobo? But you see how he how we talked about yesterday about changing the narrative? Remember you were talking about how we put the narrative on Bobo? But you see how he said

Starting point is 01:18:47 that how he wants to change the narrative? Like, I think, like, that's just what Bobo has to do. Like, he has to want to change the narrative. Yes.

Starting point is 01:18:53 Like how he said, I'm in the gym five, six, four times a day. Like, Bobo needs to come out and say, well, the narrative on me is boom, boom, and I'm willing to quit.

Starting point is 01:19:01 Does Aiden play enough minutes to be able to change that narrative? Huh? Does Aiden play enough minutes to be able to change that narrative? Huh? Does Aiton play enough minutes to be able to change that narrative? Hell yeah. Okay, Bo Bo, when he gets the opportunity to change that narrative with minutes, I believe he will. No, but he should change it now.

Starting point is 01:19:16 He can't if he don't get the minutes. He does play, though. He doesn't play over 12 minutes a game. He averaged 22 minutes a game last year. He does play. So 10 points in 22 minutes off the bench for the lendo magic right man career highs career highs so if he gets the opportunity to play more he will produce more but how are you going to get the opportunity if you don't change the

Starting point is 01:19:35 narrative that you work in and what that narrative is going to be changed how he has he has to put it out there by just talking to the media i'm saying making the effort so what you do that sit behind closed doors yeah I mean I think people will see it's tough because we live in a social media world now obviously you got a show to work out videos we've seen the hoodie mellow since you know you've been saying what I think y'all all Bobo's work I was like it's not good enough hey I'm not gonna know I'm not gonna know how to say he don't work out or not good enough so we're gonna pretend we don he don't work out. Or it's not good enough. So we're going to pretend we don't have a McCants rule.

Starting point is 01:20:06 What's the McCants rule? We had it in the chat. The McCants rule. It's right here. New rule, calling it the McCants. Anytime he's losing in the topic, he's just going to bring up something that has nothing to do with it to get a win. Y'all remember that?

Starting point is 01:20:19 I wrote that? That means I got to win? You remember that? That means I got to win. He's losing in the topic. Oh shit. That means I got to win. Thank you. He brings up the slam ball contest to try to prove it. Remember I remember that? That means I got to win. He's losing to the top. Oh shit. That means I got to win. Thank you. He brings up the slam ball contest to try to prove it. Remember I said that? And then y'all remember I also said this. And he said every time he says something, he's going to try to use Michael Jordan. I said, I guarantee you he brings

Starting point is 01:20:36 up the 10-1 slam ball when he's losing an argument. What did he do? And what did I say he do? Bring up stats. Stat man, stat man that man yeah that's me you want to see it fat man fat man fat man you want to read you want to read it out what you actually said that man fat man yeah that's me i'm gonna bring up michael jordan kobe the group chat is this is this the same that thing could go off at any point what's the day or night you don't know what somebody gonna say in say in that chat room. We lit, man. What's up?

Starting point is 01:21:05 I just said I ate. Thank you. I appreciate it. God, man. Star seed. I'm from a different planet. We can put all y'all bitches in our chat room. What's up?

Starting point is 01:21:12 I just wanted to get my extra win. That's all. Sorry, y'all. Looking at the group chat, because I said he was going to do that whenever he's losing. So when McCance loses at something, I know I won when he brings in something that has nothing to do with it. I know I won whenever he brings in something that has nothing to do with it. I know I won whenever a nigga say my last name first. My name is Rashad.

Starting point is 01:21:36 When a nigga say McCants, hey, a nigga ain't got damn feelings, nigga. McCants, nigga. I'm like, goddamn, coach, you're selling my goddamn. Okay, but I know I don't want that Let's talk about day we appreciate y'all rocking with us remember if you haven't done so already download the underdog fantasy abuse promo Oh, it was arena. They will match your first deposit up to $100 Look the more signups we get the bigger bag we get the bigger bag we get the more shows we get and you get To see all this amazing discussion debate every single day and the thing is if y'all see the group chat We might bat on here, you know in the voice you talking your but everybody loves each other we don't know look what you said look what you said at 15 minutes

Starting point is 01:22:42 ain't nobody gonna say nothing y'all just let this man come on but now these dudes know how to clip and edit too so they'll bring don't clip and edit all shit from shows to go at each other in the chat but let's talk a little bit about damian lillard damon's let it be known that he wants to be traded to the heat but as of right now the heat haven't made a compelling enough offer to make the blazers want to pull the trigger maybe they have we don't know we hear a bunch of mixed reports from media we got some media that's on the blazer side some media obviously that's on damon the heat side that's the game journalism is it dead i don't know you guys can discuss that but nonetheless blazer gm joe cronin has some interesting things to say about dame's future during nba summer league he said we're gonna do what's best for our team we're gonna see how this lands and if it takes months it takes

Starting point is 01:23:22 months so based on cronin's statements will the Blazers get the Dame trade done before this season starts? I Mean Till They should Right you you will want to be trying to move forward you will want to get it started before the beginning of season so You can have a fresh start to your season um i i usually don't like middle of the season trades it just you know the whoever's being traded to the team he got to try to figure out what you know the locker room the situation how everything moves you know he

Starting point is 01:23:56 ain't playing like we've seen it with what stephan luca i mean not stephan luca but kairi and luca like you know that's what ends up happening so if you're going to trade somebody, man, do it before right now. You know, what happens when Dame has to go to training camp and he don't really want to be there? You know what I mean? It just makes for a bad atmosphere. Professionalism. I think the league is now cracking down, especially owners and GMs.

Starting point is 01:24:21 The owners are sending their memos down. Hey, man, we're not giving these players what they want anymore. We're going to send them where we want to send them, where it's going to be beneficial to us and our bottom line. So when you look at the situation between James Harden and Dame, it's like, all right, Dame, you want out? You asking for a trade?

Starting point is 01:24:40 We're going to dictate what we're going to send you. You don't get to dictate a goddamn thing. And then when he came in to do, what's his name, Cronin? When he came in, he was hired. It was all Dame. It was all, man, Dame's my guy. We done had a meeting, blah, blah, blah. Soon as Dame said, are y'all going to go scoot?

Starting point is 01:24:55 Get me up out of here, right? Now it's different. But how much pressure now is on the players to know Dame saying, I want to go to Heat. Y'all try to send me anywhere else, I'm not going to be happy. So now if I'm other teams, and I know I'm getting a disgruntled Dame coming in, I'm going to be less inclined to want to make that trade.

Starting point is 01:25:11 It feels like a strong arm, but it also comes to a point too, Gil, like you said, like, you know, Dame don't want to be on the Blazers. He's given that team several years, he's been loyal, given him his heart, sacrificed. He's not interested in being a part of another rebuild, which it looks like that team is obviously headed towards. But at what point now, if I'm the Heat,

Starting point is 01:25:31 Will's like, okay, I don't need to give you everything. Like, he said he wanted to come here. It is what it is. So you're playing, you know, both sides trying to play chess, but at some point somebody's gonna have to cave. And like you said, trying to wait now to the trade deadline, making Dame go into camp. And camp and now you've got scoot who you want to build

Starting point is 01:25:48 this franchise around for the future that's got to deal with this shit as his first entry into the league is kind of like yeah so you're saying who has the leverage that's my point like who because right now i can't really tell you who it seems like the blazers because the blazers you don't want to sit a guy like i mean i just feel like as a team like you just said like right you want to get this out the way you got your youngins you don't want to have a start the season where he's coming here uh he's might play might not want to play you just want to get it over with um and then a guy like him you don't want him sitting down not playing like the league ain't gonna want that yeah definitely you know i'm saying the league

Starting point is 01:26:22 the league don't want that the league want dame lillard on that court so like they're they're gonna have to figure it out you're not gonna have a guy sitting down that's averaging over 30 and you know saying right now i feel like he has the leverage now because it's like all right well then all right but the league's gonna the league's gonna come in and be like no we need him on the court because we need this we need our product tickets but we need tickets we've seen this already though if you think about it we've seen it with a Philly and Simmons. Yeah, but Simmons ain't Dame, though. But who had the leverage?

Starting point is 01:26:53 Who? I mean, Philly. Obviously, Philly. Philly started with it, and then Ben Simmons said, I need a backyard of me. Yeah, I'm not playing. I'm not coming. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:27:01 But that's what I'm not playing. I'm not coming. Yeah. But that's what I'm saying. So at the end of the day, if you're trying, if you're both, it seems like both will be 50-50. Who's going to break first? Right? Because if Portland's sitting there and let's say Portland goes on 10 game winning streak without Dan. That's different. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:27:20 That's different smoke. That ain't going to happen. That's different smoke. That's different smoke. But let's say, let's say they don't have no plan. They don't plan on winning. And I just want to get scooting them all their chances. Right?

Starting point is 01:27:33 Me buying you out is no different than me just letting you sit there. Yep. You just rotting. So just buy them out and send them home? No, I just let them rot. What I'm saying is, as Portland, it depends on what I'm really trying to do here right right right if i know you don't want to be there but you're not giving me what i

Starting point is 01:27:53 want because you're like shit you got to get him here won't you because that's what you're doing right you don't give a fuck what we do you want to go there right you're like well he want to come here so i ain't no matter where he goes you sitting there like gotta come in he coming here So I'll be sitting here like well fuck it if I'm gonna lose you no matter what and he want to give me the pieces This is what I'm gonna do I'm gonna go my unit not gonna play you I don't give a shit I'm not I don't have you anyway, so I'm just gonna sit let you sit there. That's your this is your legacy Your stats this is this that means hey how many games you gonna play there's to the 65 65 made all NBA

Starting point is 01:28:33 don't say that Tonsi gonna let that happen oh no but what I might be above him but I say he ain't got no control over there hey it's not like he ain't got no control but he don't but how Chonk. He ain't got no control. No, he don't. But how would that make him feel on his watch? He got to do this to Dame. I mean, that's what you signed up for. You're the coach. That's what you signed up for.

Starting point is 01:28:53 So what ends up happening is. And you ain't got no leverage. If you're Dame, man, if you're Dame, now you're like, fuck that. I'm going to play. Yeah. Now I got my player back. Now Choncy got to play him. That's what I'm saying.

Starting point is 01:29:03 For Choncy. Choncy got to play him regardless. But you're sitting there sitting like, it don't matter. It don't matter what you're doing. He still got my player back. Now Chauncey got to play him. That's what I'm saying. For Chauncey, Chauncey can let the player regardless. But you're sitting there sitting like, it don't matter. It don't matter what you're doing. He still want to be here.

Starting point is 01:29:10 So I said Portland, I mean, Portland's got it because to your point, they started out 10-0. That reflects poorly on them. Like, hey, we don't need you. You start out 0-10,

Starting point is 01:29:19 well, fuck, we're going to get a top three pick in the draft this year. We was rebuilding anyway. But I mean, I think, but also there's a a point made and it's not necessarily a hot free agent destination but how does this make the franchise look in the eyes of other guys and do they give a fuck we're not getting those free agents really anyway i don't really want to come here now so

Starting point is 01:29:39 it's not like we care if y'all think we're going to be on some bullshit if you come over here. None of us would have went to Portland. No sales tax deal. $2 bill. Portland cool. It just rained a lot. They got good food, though. They got good food at the strip club. I mean, you whip.

Starting point is 01:29:55 You can't even drop the pot. You can't even get the top. Yeah, yeah. Obviously, you can't even drop. Don't even get the two-seater. You can't drop it. Get a Range Rover. So Dame obviously reportedly wants to go to the Heat, but is this Miami or bus mentality still the right play for him, or should he open up his options to a team that could potentially give enough assets

Starting point is 01:30:09 to satisfy the Blazers' demands? I just think it ought to be a multi-team. Miami or Philly to me. Miami, Philly, or if you can trade Jalen Brown. Because you can get Harden, you can get Harden to the Clippers, you can get Dame to Miami, and everybody in that crew can get satisfied I'm just saying I'm just saying like the best chance for him to have a chance to like compete doesn't like it got to be Miami Philly or Boston or all four and then we didn't block what shit or

Starting point is 01:30:34 Milwaukee still that's just this thing like I like it seem like you get complicated at that it does yeah I just be like straight-up shit you know all that triple shit run around we're gonna swing the boomerang around that's how it makes you get confused but that's how they try to make sense of it is because you do a 3-4 team trade where you're saying this guy to this team this guy to this team this guy to this team money money makes sense now then it's like all right what picks are you throwing in what other utility players they end up in miami because jaylen brown leaves boston james leaves philly then they start matching. So James goes to the Clippers, Jalen Brown goes to Portland, you know, then the Picks go to Philly.

Starting point is 01:31:12 They break up that Philly team and they end up in Miami. I guess we've got to ask ourselves this. What does Portland actually need? Three men. They just saw Jeremy Grant back. Was he in the four, right? Yeah, he played the four. They got a two, right?

Starting point is 01:31:29 They got Simons and Scoot. No, Simons and Scoot, they have Sharp. Sharp. Isn't that a two? He's coming off the bench, though. Three. Two, three. So then they got two, two, three.

Starting point is 01:31:40 So their young team can be Scoot, Sharp, and Simmons? Yeah. And Grant? Somebody needs to go get Siakam. Somebody needs to go get Siakam out of Toronto. So, I mean, that's young enough. I mean, probably get a young five. So it's like, what do they want from Miami?

Starting point is 01:31:55 But you're not going to rebuild with that lineup. You wouldn't? They're all about, what, under 23? I mean, under 23. Ah, that's a nasty lineup. But Sharp is just playing a summer league. No, I mean, that's what I'm saying. You're rebuilding.

Starting point is 01:32:06 So, you know, like, you put him in the category as Houston last year, but you put him OKC and all that. So what do you do with him? I mean, you just, that's what I'm saying. It's like, what do you offer? But, like, does the Gobert and the KD, does the trade create some delusion in the team's mind where it's like, shit, we've seen what fucking they gave up to get Gobert.

Starting point is 01:32:24 Dame's on that level obviously like we need to come back with a hall like that like it needed to be some historic level shit yeah or do you go withers mentality who do they give all the people to again for uh gobert yeah yes we don't even know what jazz got or didn't get real It was this blockbuster this big huge thing, but we don't know nothing from it. Yeah, right They low-key need to get rid of the jazz The whole franchise is there jazz in Utah is there jazz all just change the name nobody's going Nobody's going there. There was no Utah. Just just just tear down marketing out there, huh?

Starting point is 01:33:17 Marketing Lauren mark or market is out there Utah folks a good destination for a move Utah's Man, who the jazz to Seattle so I know this sounds racist. No. Here we go. That's where you're going to be racist. If Utah was just all white, I'm pretty sure no one would say nothing about it. No, for sure. We wouldn't even care because we know they would be trashed. The all white Mormon team. Yeah, Utah. They're going to run to Princeton.

Starting point is 01:33:40 It's like BYU. It's like BYU. What if they start killing though? No, no, no, no, no, dead ass. Like BYU What if they start killing Then Utah should be the only team where you can only pick white players No, ain't nobody be offended. No, no, it's all foreigners a white place boy. I don't see no black players There's all foreigners will be on the reeds get a hundred plus out there and we'll be and we would literally be okay Oh, oh god, we'll love that. Yeah. We got the white boys tonight. We got the white boys tonight.

Starting point is 01:34:07 If somebody from their team start busting that, he's like, ooh, white boy done bust your ass. All right, we're going to get some white boys going to bust your ass for 30. We are off the rails on a Thursday. I'm just saying that. It seems like it's the only city that can get away with it. And we'd be like, man, you.

Starting point is 01:34:23 Yeah, that's cool. It's cool. It's cool. It's cool. We rolling. We rolling. For sure. There's no diversity over there. Princeton, man.

Starting point is 01:34:31 Princeton offense. Yeah. Do Princeton got black people? A couple. A couple smart niggas. A couple smart niggas over there. Pass the ball to you. A couple Richards.

Starting point is 01:34:41 Richard. Richard and Gilbert. Gilbert. Richard and Gilbert? Gilbert. Richard and Gilbert? That's where the Gilberts come from. That's where the Gilberts come from. That's where the Gilberts come from. That's where the Gilberts come from.

Starting point is 01:34:50 That's where the Gilberts come from. That's where the Gilberts come from. That's where the Gilberts come from. That's where the Gilberts come from. That's where the Gilberts come from. That's where the Gilberts come from. That's where the Gilberts come from. That's where the Gilberts come from.

Starting point is 01:34:51 That's where the Gilberts come from. That's where the Gilberts come from. That's where the Gilberts come from. That's where the Gilberts come from. That's where the Gilberts come from. That's where the Gilberts come from. That's where the Gilberts come from. That's where the Gilberts come from.

Starting point is 01:34:51 That's where the Gilberts come from. That's where the Gilberts come from. That's where the Gilberts come from. That's where the Gilberts come from. That's where the Gilberts come from. That's where the Gilberts come from. That's where the Gil. Here it is. That's big. It seems like people expect players to be

Starting point is 01:35:12 loyal to the team, but don't share the same sentiment when it comes to team loyalty. You've got to be loyal to the team. The team can be disloyal. How long has he been in the league? Almost 10 years. So not going on 9? I think almost. Yeah, going on 9. So Embiid doesn't fit that category? No. He's seven. Embiid is seven right now. Ten, he has nine.

Starting point is 01:35:30 He ain't there yet. He ain't got no ring. He talking about everybody got a ring. See, here you go. You got to have a ring. You got to have a ring to be in that conversation. Every conversation got to do with winning in a ring. Should have never let them niggas win.

Starting point is 01:35:39 Should have never let them niggas win. Should have never let me sit course side game 60 days in a row. Giannis entering year 11. I I was looking like Birdman. What's up, baby? We were putting beat in there too, though, right? My shit. But the question is,

Starting point is 01:35:51 should we care how loyal a player is to the team? Does that have any bearing? Like, back in the day, we talked about Kobe staying with the Lakers for 20 years, Mike staying with the Bulls

Starting point is 01:35:58 for the most part until the Wizards years. Reggie Miller. I mean, it don't really mean nothing. It's just rare. Is that a fan thing? No, what I'm saying is it's not necessarily a player thing.

Starting point is 01:36:09 It's the organization. If you're still valuable for them, you're there. If they're not, they will trade you in a minute. So Giannis is valuable, so he's not being traded. But at the end of the day, when his legacy changes, it's because they traded him. Like Klay, we're not thinking about go to say he said clay how many years claiming a league 12 12 13 you mean so but if y'all is ever good but we understand what he's saying but you know clay still in there you

Starting point is 01:36:38 know I mean I mean it's a great I mean it's a great thing to see I mean it still means that you know some players can still stay with one team look I know everybody's moving all around but there's still a great thing to see. I mean, it still means that, you know, some players can still stay with one team. I know everybody's moving all around, but it's still a beautiful thing to see. Like, if they're able to retire with one team, I mean, that would be rare in this era to us. Like, you know what I'm saying? It's not up to him, though. It's not up to Giannis. It's the niggas up top saying, we're going to keep you as long as you keep doing what you're doing.

Starting point is 01:37:01 Like, it's more impressive. Like, 11 years? It's more impressive for Giannis than the other people because um that's a small market team if you didn't win a championship you'd probably want it out the other teams they're in big markets so no player wants to leave there Steph don't want to leave there no I mean Kobe didn't want to Kobe don't want to leave Los Angeles no way right Shaq didn't want to leave Los Angeles. No way. Right? Shaq didn't want to leave Los Angeles. Almost happened. It was 24 hours away from being in Detroit. It was going to be an eight jersey in Detroit.

Starting point is 01:37:31 That was Detroit. He was going to Detroit to play with Detroit. No. Yes, he was. Go ask Joe Dumars. Let it be now. Go ask Joe Dumars. I'm telling you, Kobe was 24 hours to be in a Piston.

Starting point is 01:37:46 Austin Reeves didn't want to be in Detroit. Because Kobe said, if I'm going to get traded, I need to go to a championship team. Chicago had nothing. Why would I go play in Mike? I thought it was Chicago. No, it was Detroit. He said he was going to try to. He said Chicago.

Starting point is 01:38:00 Yeah, I thought it was Chicago. But Detroit was doing it. Yeah, Detroit had it because they was going to start him, Chauncey. It was going to be all of them. They was going to run it right back. So, question for you, Brandon. Obviously, Detroit had it today was gonna start him Chauncey. It was gonna be all of them It was gonna run it right back. So question for you Brandon, obviously you familiar with the Bucks It seems like everything John is done for the Bucks Yeah, they would never pull no shit like that. He can stay there as long as you want He could pull you down this house. Well, I mean, well, you never know Haslam I mean, I mean you never know though. I mean they got rid of big dog

Starting point is 01:38:22 They got rid of it. They got it with a couple of the Jonathan Ray Allen. Yeah, Ray Allen. I mean, you never know, though. I mean, they got rid of Big Dog. They got rid of a couple of players. But is Giannis on another? Ray Allen. Ray Allen. I mean, yes, he did win it. He did win it. But, I mean, you know, times have changed. Like you said, that's a small market. So, I mean, I hope he stays in Milwaukee for sure.

Starting point is 01:38:37 But, you know, you just never know today. Like, you know, like you just never know. Like, I always still feel like if the Bucs don't win in the next two years, you could start hearing them talk a can start hearing talk a little bit like, you know But they need to build that statue so he won't leave and our research teams that Kobe almost went to the Bulls Now he almost went to Detroit Joe Dumars told me that so the research team Will you let me be know that do we do Like the the mainstream was was Kobe was and there was some talk about the Clippers to just to fucking

Starting point is 01:39:08 Yeah, now think about it like this Westbrook, okay, this is when we think about loyalty Westbrook was the most loyal. Oh, Keith. Okay, yeah Remember everybody, you know, the whole city went against KD for leaving. Yeah. For the city to trade him the next day. Or the next year. After he won MVP.

Starting point is 01:39:34 After he took that team. Now, he took a bunch of Hondas to the playoffs. The only person, the only American who loved Toronto was shipped off. Vince Carter?

Starting point is 01:39:48 Who? DeMar. Oh. Mm. Mm. You know what I mean? The only person who, hey, I love this. This is, you know what I mean?

Starting point is 01:39:58 So it kind of gives you that real. So you got to win it, basically, to stay. Like, MB would need to win it the next two years or they or he might be getting shipped off right yeah like talking like that i mean i feel like yannis because of winning that chip most mbps i don't see that franchise it would have to come to a point where like they need to build a statue didn't they get they need to build a statue of him now nothing that's for trade there's gonna be one big statue of yannis i'm not sure i'm not sure i think he asked for a trade because um he wanted to be in la because um because i remember i killed him i killed him

Starting point is 01:40:34 for you remember when it was too cold no when jello ball got in trouble in china in china and then he came out and said you put a black eye over the UCLA organization and I'm like wait a minute oh hold on old fella I don't think you remember in college then y'all have boosters that was doing all this it was different time hookers and all that shit you was one part of that with the NIL and I said you went to um you went to that same booster, end up being your agent, and got you out of Milwaukee back into Los Angeles Lake. Gil, we're UCLA Bruins. We are ahead of the time.

Starting point is 01:41:15 We was getting NIL cracking in the 60s. But I'm saying, didn't UCLA, there was a big crackdown on UCLA. Yeah, I mean, we had my dad on the pod, too. I'm not going to say the booster's name, but he was, you know. He became a lot of these dudes' agents. But then something happened to UCLA because of it? I mean, you know. I hate UCLA.

Starting point is 01:41:31 Ten natties. I hate UCLA. They never recruited me. They said I wasn't their type of guy. But we talked about you. You would have not enjoyed. If you went, you would have not enjoyed. I still should have just got an offer.

Starting point is 01:41:39 I still should have got an offer. 50 points. I'm Brandon Jennings. I'm Brandon Jennings. Yeah. I should have got an offer from you. I understand. Mr.nings. I'm the number one player. Yeah. I should have got an offer from you. I understand. Mr. B.

Starting point is 01:41:46 Yeah. Baron Davis went there. Like, all that. He ain't Mr. B. He ain't Mr. B today. It was not an offense. It was a game. I'm Mr. Jennings today, baby.

Starting point is 01:41:55 The one. Mr. Jennings. I love my name. Mr. Jennings. Mr. Jennings. All right. So, last segment of the day for mostly fans. We're going to get into this USAverse. We're actually going to have a draft closer of the day for mostly fans. We're gonna get into this this USA verse

Starting point is 01:42:05 We're rushing to have a draft closer to the World Cup Yeah, but before we do all that cuz I've been going back and forth on the group chat We need to establish a criteria what players are eligible for what team and yeah, and let me tell you that they need to do Chat got it. No chat. No. No, no, we don't want no interest. You can't reduce the conversation Let me explain it can i explain it should be able we go off what the chat says okay that's fine that is dumb as fuck man we should be going off with the fucking chat there i don't know what never go i don't know what the chat is saying but i know the chat be like i got good fits i know the chat say i got good fits

Starting point is 01:42:38 very fine people in the chat very fine people on both sides of the chat all right so go all right so listen all right so instead of the all-star game i know we said all-star game in vegas right so instead of the all-star game let's just take the best 15 american players call it the dream team right and we go and we play against the best 15 world players from around the world so canada counts for the world yes for the yeah it may not count for the world yeah if you're not mexico yeah if you're not from the united states then you're from over there or whatever okay and we play for the world cup so we take out that whole olympics like the dream team is not playing against the olympics like they're not playing against italy slovenia autumn sorry yes like countries so we'll just play like a five game to seven game series and you pick the best

Starting point is 01:43:22 15 american players versus the best 15 world players. So every world player won't be in the NBA. There will be some Europeans that we never heard of that are top over there that we'll have to play against. So how the fuck do – okay. No, no, but it's the world. That's the point. That's the point.

Starting point is 01:43:36 It's not about all just NBA. The NBA team never played against all the top world. They only played against France or Spain. But you're going to name some people no one's ever heard of. That's fine. So how do we know – the top of the only played against France or Spain, but like put them all together, but you're going to name some people. No one's ever heard. That's fine. So how do we know but that's how you win an argument. You name six players. No one's ever heard of that. He got there because that's part of them. That's their shit is fake, right? Like we're just why not? No, no, no, but we're we need rules. So what I'm saying is that are you

Starting point is 01:44:01 scared that there might be a nigga you don't heard of that's maybe right then go over here And bustin the gas how you gonna make an argument form if nobody knows them and then they do know The world knows them the world knows him that's that's between the world and then so then what you do is right So then you take the USA team like you take young ins right so you take young is from like high school You take like brawny you take college and like rookies and like high school players and they go play for the gold medal what against the against the country against the amateurs yes you gotta get yeah because you get the pros wait wait hold on no i guess the pros against other but i mean it's the same thing i mean they're i mean they have youngest ever superstars versus i thought i thought we were gonna take you pick your best 15 right right and you two got world and i and i take the

Starting point is 01:44:44 best 15 americans right right right that's what two got world. And I take the best 15 Americans. Right. That's what we're doing, right? Right, yeah. For the World Cup, five to seven games. But the Olympics, but I feel like the Olympics should be for the youngins. Like, give the youngins a chance. Oh, no, no, no.

Starting point is 01:44:56 I thought this was an argument. Yeah, I thought you said make the young dudes have to play against the old, hardened world vets. No. Yes, in the Olympics. Oh, you're talking. yeah yeah so take the youngins to represent us in the olympics so so what who cares that they're young like like let them go play but you got your best dream team play for the world cup championship i think it should be separate because all those countries want their bread like no no no although okay like you get

Starting point is 01:45:18 them okay he's actually he's trying to say this is what should happen yeah yeah so he's saying that we take our best 15 players and then the world cup players yeah they should form all their best have that be a game five against then the olympics be the younger the younger it'll be crazy marketing run this in an off year or world cup year and then just make it a whole separate thing yes yeah for sure yeah for sure so you have so so yeah you will have do it, you would have to do it, like, soon, because, I mean, if the game was to happen, because you would have to do it with Bron. Like, the game doesn't make sense if Bron's not playing, because you need our best 15.

Starting point is 01:45:53 That would probably be the most watched shit. So, like, so say everybody's going to Paris, right, 2024, right, to play. Scrap all that playing against, like, the teams. Just pick your best 15, we'll bring our best 15, and we'll play in a 5 or 7 game series. The only problem with us

Starting point is 01:46:09 doing it is our politics kick in. No, it's no politics. You just got to... What I'm saying is, I know what we're saying. Steph is going to play though. Allegedly. No, I don't care about the Under Armour stuff. I don't care about the Nike stuff. He's going to play in that.

Starting point is 01:46:25 But what I'm saying is, we're stuck by shoe companies, right? So this is the problem with our USA game. Okay, so no shoe company then. But that's what I said. Because this is not a real thing, and we will have our 15. We will know what 15 we will have our same we will have our 15 we would know what 15 we will use yeah but when Adidas or Nike get involved certain players are gonna they're gonna want their product on that stage so we just let's just erase that market no no just to have your names yeah just your name that just the name

Starting point is 01:47:00 no he's not he's not actually having a debate he said what he should what he wants yeah that should happen. Yeah, this should happen. This should happen every two years. They should let these young'uns go play in the Olympics, get their marketing off. And it's still good for us because these are the next young kids growing up. And not to say these other countries, they don't have 16, 17-year-olds that have been playing professionally. So why not give these young college guys an opportunity?

Starting point is 01:47:23 And then you do the same thing for the women. The women's dream team go play against the best 15s from overseas. I think if you do that, you gotta make the bag so overwhelming, like, winner- I mean, that's- It's just- You're playing for the World Cup, though. Line up the top 12 players. To get all those guys that wanna play, like, you're gonna make more bread than you

Starting point is 01:47:39 make on a contract in a season just playing in the 15- No, you're playing for the World Cup. I mean, I'm not saying- I'm just saying, bragging rights, you're playing for the World Cup. I mean, I'm not saying, it's bragging rights. You're playing for the World Cup. The trophy different. It ain't no more gold.

Starting point is 01:47:48 Listen, Mike and them can't say they ever did this. They're there. Mike and them can never say they played against the best. You gotta say, all right, there's no shoe companies attached to the jerseys.

Starting point is 01:47:59 Y'all can wear your own shoe. Elon Musk, all the billionaires, just watch. You can wear your own shoe logo on your jersey. You can wear your own logo on your jersey you can wear your shoe logo on your jersey we make it international where you can you can have all the sponsors on your yeah you can actually have only fans as long as they're a shoe company that you know if it's if it's you know shoe company they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna select the players that they want. Yeah, no shoe company. Just get Elon Musk or go get one of these billionaires to go ahead and sponsor it.

Starting point is 01:48:29 But that's just like doing a dream team. Now, let's say if the dream team really had been the dream team and Magic didn't make it or they didn't use Magic, they didn't use Berg, they didn't use... John Stockton was healthy still um they didn't use christian lakner those three players are gone and then you added dominique you added uh isaiah thomas shaq and shaq yeah now that probably becomes the best team that ever got assembled yeah well because then they're not playing well we could see it and people would be like oh magic and burke they were hurt yep they wasn't they

Starting point is 01:49:06 just had the name at that point they weren't actually the players playing but if you got to add dominique zeke and shack and replace the guys who didn't play for the name that becomes a more yeah because zeke met the criteria yeah remember that let it be known met the criteria let it be known we're gonna let i mean even domin. Dominique was basically the second to third best, you know, small four. But as I'm saying, if you add those three players and take the names off the, you know, for the splash. So let's go selection. First question for y'all. Do you need to be born in the United States to be on the USA team?

Starting point is 01:49:39 Yes, you do. Or can you be an American citizen? No, you need to be, your birth certificate needs to say from the United States. No, this goes for the chat. I don't want these the chat chat cuz I'm going against two against one So check the one of the criteria the criteria you got it right in the chat Do you need to be born in the United you gonna lose all the boys tell them who you lose? Kyrie Kyrie. Yeah, maybe Kyrie wasn't born in the u.s. Yeah, he's American citizen. He's all I am so the so the argument is this

Starting point is 01:50:11 Do you have to be born in the u.s.? Or lived in the u.s. Long enough to be you need to be Listen listen when you popped out of that thing Where you at? Where you at? In America, Sawyer, or are you overseas? Where you at? When you popped out, where you at? Because I know you're losing. Yeah, did you do? Puerto Rico's Puerto Rico. It's a territory. Puerto Rico got their own national team. They had their own national team, but we folding them in. We folding them in to America, United States. Say it. Who we gonna lose?

Starting point is 01:50:43 You gonna lose some people. But they're saying naturalization. So some people in the chat say born in the USA. For me personally, if you're an American citizen, if you have the passport. That's T-M-A. No, no, no. Listen, Kyle, we're going to play for the world.

Starting point is 01:50:57 Kyle, we're going to play for the world. Not because of what it is. Because there's players on the national team that they're national. They were born in America. So they can be be American citizens so their country can control them. And you guys don't know who those players are. So when we have the argument. You can take your two.

Starting point is 01:51:13 We need Kyrie, though. So whatever two bigs you're taking. He's trying to take Joker. He thinks Joker's born here. I'm just saying if Joker and B. He thinks Joker was born here. Y'all don't know who's born. Y'all don't know who's born.

Starting point is 01:51:22 Joker and his brothers. He was born here. Y'all don't know who's born in the third. Wait, Joker was born born. He was born here. Y'all don't know who's born in the third. Wait, Joker was born here? No. Oh, OK. Oh, good. Oh, shit.

Starting point is 01:51:30 I mean, we could lose and beat then. He was born on American military vet note. Y'all don't know. He was what? Y'all don't know who's. He was born where? No. He was born where?

Starting point is 01:51:38 Y'all don't know what I'm saying. I've seen y'all 15. Y'all don't realize. You ain't seen our 15. We ain't showed you our 15. Y'all that bullshit. We ain't showed you. Y'all can get the bullshit y'all got in there. Brandon't seen our 15 we ain't showed y'all that bullshit y'all we ain't showed y'all get the bullshit y'all got it brandon made a post on the lord's instagram on the lord's with

Starting point is 01:51:50 his with his squad but i've just said like now we have to get birth certificates okay we can find that information like that's not hard to find these it is yeah it's not gpt you know what that is no it's not i've heard of it you heard of check. Oh, it's not I heard of it. You're the chat GPT Yeah, Google you 40 plus you feel on Google chat GPT for oh, we're talking about it We're talking about an era where we got four we got three we got 25 year olds Posing this 19 year olds because they change birth certificate Maker you gotta be a ruin to do high school We can just do wherever you want to be from no no no i don't feel like it was easier i mean it helps me whoever it helps us

Starting point is 01:52:33 for the usa team is a usa player that's you saying at the end of the day we get kairi and can none of your guards guard kairi so it don't matter. You can't guard Steph. Huh? Kyrie can't guard Steph? I got Steph and Dame. Dame can't guard fucking. Luke can't guard Kyrie. Luke. You crazy. You got the, first of all, you got the slowest starting five in NBA history.

Starting point is 01:52:55 Luke. Slow. Jokic. Slow. Embiid. Slow. Slow. Slow.

Starting point is 01:52:59 Slow. Slow it down. What kind of team is this? Listen, we're going to play a zone. That's not one of these guys who are the defense. They got no defenders. What are we talking about? Giannis. We got no defenders. What are we talking about? Yannis he gonna guard all five So what are we doing with them be born in Cameroon got French citizens? Where does he born? Got a guy us it is a ship. Would you say first? He's a United States

Starting point is 01:53:21 What did you say first morning? He's where but okay... Okay, and... What does he sound like? Do we sound like he's from fucking Philly? Can we get the USA and Africa? Can we get the USA? No, no. Does Embiid sound like he's from motherfucking...

Starting point is 01:53:33 But he gets... I'll get the rest of the world. You know, this is... People, this started because of Sabonis. Right? He puts Sabonis on there. I was like, first of all, Sabonis was born in Portland. Okay, cool.

Starting point is 01:53:44 So you want to take him? You want to take him? Cool. Go ahead. We'll take Kyrie. Y'all don't know their parents, some of them were born here, born here to move there. They just didn't want the country to own the rights of their child. That's why I said y'all don't know who actually-

Starting point is 01:53:58 That's fine. You just said two people. You said we lose it too. I'm only telling you the two people. I'm not telling y'all who it is. Because when y'all start arguing, this guy's going to do this and this. I'm like, okay the two people. I'm not telling y'all who it is You know what? Because when y'all start arguing this guy's gonna do this and this is like, okay Oh, you still got this cuz he's got more we still got car Remember, remember the world gonna pick six seven different players from Europe that we that that that that are the best players from over there

Starting point is 01:54:18 That are these so these guys are still like you act like these guys are like trash. Hold on. Hold on. What? First of all, I some European players that can play in the league we don't know that because they got winning we don't know that you got wimby we don't we do i do the fact that they put wimby on this ticket i mean why not they put ad on the 2018. no he wasn't even right he wasn't even right you guys are picking 15 correct and i'm picking of course i'm gonna add wimby this is you're gonna add right you're gonna add wimby for sure you're gonna add Right, you're gonna add windy for sure. You're gonna add bog on A shooter my Donna bit back down of it a shooter now. I want to ask y'all in what world No, no, no what world we don't have to sub. Oh, no, you keep on on

Starting point is 01:54:58 Yes, I was the name No, we plan of it. We play a wreckly rules everybody. They got five minutes Everybody got a No, we're playing rec league rules everybody they got five minutes They got Bogdanovich right and who's the other shooter We didn't say we got we did I don't give him no no no now No, cuz I got the names here Bogdanovich is not as in our top. Hey, hey, hey, yo, here come the stats. Watch. Here come the stats. Is that dude that y'all named, that's on your team, that's on your team,

Starting point is 01:55:33 is he better than Clay, who's not on the team? Is he better than Jimmy Butler, who probably won't be on the team? Is he better than Devin Booker, who probably won't be on the team? Is he better? No. But he's on your team, but you think your team is better. And these three aren't on the team. Wait, Murray.

Starting point is 01:55:48 Wait. Shai Alexander. Wait, hold on. Shai, Murray, Kyrie. Fox. Luca. We got Marketing. You got Bam.

Starting point is 01:55:56 Bam. Bam is not on your team. Where the fuck is Bam? Bam. You know where Bam is from? Where? He's from the Bahamas. Where's he? Oh, not the Bahamas. Um American no, he's not. No, he's not Bama

Starting point is 01:56:13 What you call you can say is you can ain't born in Newark, New Jersey Your New Jersey and I was born in New Jersey. Yo, what rules he playin'? Because he's not on my team. That's the funny part. He's on your team, but he can't make my team. He can't make my team. First of all, Devin Booker is making the world, the dream team, for sure.

Starting point is 01:56:31 He couldn't even make the All-Star game. Come on, man. How we playin' it? You remember there's seven Americans on the All-Star. That's fine. Seven Americans on the All-Star team. And y'all gotta go win. You gotta win.

Starting point is 01:56:39 And Jimmy Bowler won. And Jimmy Bowler won. And Jimmy Bowler won. And Jimmy Bowler won. And Jimmy Bowler won. And Jimmy Bowler won. And Jimmy Bowler won. And Jimmy Bow played it. You remember there's seven American on the All-Star. That's fine. Seven Americans on the All-Star game.

Starting point is 01:56:47 And y'all gotta go win. You gotta win. And Jimmy Butler wasn't it. Booker wasn't it. You gotta win. Zion wasn't there. You gotta win. I mean, come on.

Starting point is 01:56:55 You gotta win. You name it. And why he wasn't on the All-Star game? What does that have to do with it? I mean, I got 30 fucking players who ain't on the team. Nigeria. His dad is not on the team. I don't think his dad should play basketball.

Starting point is 01:57:03 I can fuck. Where is daddy from? Right? We're talking about babies from Newark, New Jersey. I don't think his dad should play basketball. I can fuck where is daddy from right? We're talking about the club. I thought I was a criteria. No, you don't you say the boy Kyrie's daddy's an American What the fuck doing it man? Hey mate. Hey mate. Hey, mate. I he's going you said that he's playing for the world Let's see what did to Kyrie. He ain't fucking with y'all. That's why I say that Chet has to pick it. Because you see, they start losing players.

Starting point is 01:57:32 We're not losing no players. That means that Bim Alamalabulu, like, that's his name. No, because he's from Nigeria. No, his daddy's from Nigeria. He's from Newark. He's from Jersey. I mean, at the end of the day, man, we got, I mean, at the end of the day, if we add in Kyrie, we got like three or four of the top players in the U.S. I'm trying to tell you, y'all going to lose a whole lot of players.

Starting point is 01:57:49 No, we're not. No, we're not. Y'all don't know. They were born here. Yes. Birth certificate. Their parents is overseas. What rules do y'all have?

Starting point is 01:57:56 They left and went overseas. What rules do you plan? I don't give a fuck what rules y'all play. See, you don't want to play. Y'all, you want it bam, and I don't want to have them. I can't even talk about it. We're going feeble rules. He ain't even good enough to be on my team. Four 10-minute quarters, you can smack, and I don't have him. I can't even talk to him. We're going Fever Rule. He ain't even good enough to be on my team.

Starting point is 01:58:06 Four 10-minute quarters, you can smack the shit once it hits. I'm going to say, yeah, we playing that. Listen, all right, all right. Y'all got, okay, we got Jokic. We need Bobo. Second best player. Smack that shit off the rib, Bobo. Kyrie, Luka.

Starting point is 01:58:20 Okay, Luka. Oh, no, I mean, no, wait. I mean, Giannis. Luka, Giannis, right, three, then, right I mean, you know, this right three then, right? Is he saying Lucas the best guard in the NBA? If we got Kyrie, I mean, best Kyrie Luka better than Curry. No, no, no. Bob Murray.

Starting point is 01:58:35 Let's take off. Let's take all five of them back out. We're going to take all five of them. I started five is nice. Right, right. And from there. Okay, We got so I coming off then from there. Yeah from there in Order right. Where was shy ranked? He's talking to the chat right now. That don't mean nothing when it's time to go in. Where would he rank?

Starting point is 01:59:06 Where would Siakam rank in the NBA? The rest of your team, bam. Where would he rank? He'll talk to the fans. Where would the fans? You got it. You have to. We're talking to players.

Starting point is 01:59:16 He's talking to the chat. SGA finished fifth in MVP voting. Thank you. Okay. Okay. That's MVP voting. Fifth. Not 10. Not 12. Where did. That's MVP voting Tim but then it's what a hurry rank and where the KD rank in MVP boys better

Starting point is 01:59:30 You know, we're not talking about better be better No, right we we're trying to build a team to go in team your bill We're not you're not building a one-on-one tournament bill, you know Europeans do come together They do you know the one-on-one tournament is the only thing we come together We know all your niggas are do. They're building a one-on-one tournament. The only thing we come together with... We know all your niggas are killers. We know they all can play. We know they all dog.

Starting point is 01:59:49 But when they talk about come together as a team... That's all... It's different. That's still all in theory. No. You're building a team and everybody you're putting on a team

Starting point is 01:59:57 that's coming off the bench is ranked 30 and above. We talking about stats and rankings, bro. We talking about... We know your niggas are killers, but just say that. We know all your guys are ranked in the top 15. Can I ask y'all something?

Starting point is 02:00:09 The only thing we know for sure that we're with is winning a war. That's it. That's the only thing we know for sure. International niggas are warriors. We could just win a war. Can I ask you a question about that argument? What's up? If Jimmy was from Nigeria, would he make your team? If Jimmy was from where?

Starting point is 02:00:26 Nigeria. Would he make our team? Fuck yes. Fuck yes. Um, if Booker was from Africa, would he make y'all team? Fuck yeah, right? If who? Jimmy, Jim Bulla.

Starting point is 02:00:38 He would make your team, correct? Okay. Um, if Brown. Who? Jaylen Brown. Jaylen Brown Jaylen Brown If he was from I don't give a fuck where he went

Starting point is 02:00:47 Canada Will you make your team? Probably yeah Fuck yeah But that don't mean they starting That doesn't mean they starting These three guys won't even make my team That's how much fucking talent I got

Starting point is 02:00:58 No you Really You ain't got that much talent You ain't got that much Will Fox Will Fox make your team? Who? DeAndre Fox

Starting point is 02:01:03 DeAndre Fox No What. No, no, what? No, yeah, no one You know why wouldn't you know, I don't think so Point guard we don't need another He's not better than Kyrie or Mursha. Or Murray. So it's like, so no. So no, we don't need him.

Starting point is 02:01:29 And then we're going to go get a European guard that you never heard of that's going to be feisty. I'm getting there. Bro, bro. Bro, from Hustle? What's the thing about that? Y'all about to go shit. Y'all about to go shit. Y'all about to go shit.

Starting point is 02:01:41 Y'all about to go shit. Y'all about to go shit. Y'all about to go shit. Y'all about to go shit. Y'all about to go shit. Y'all about to go shit. Y'all about to go shit. Y'all about to go shit.

Starting point is 02:01:42 Y'all about to go shit. Y'all about to go shit. Y'all about to go shit. Y'all about to go shit. Y'all about to go shit. Y'all about to go shit. Y'all about to go shit. Y'all about to go shit.

Starting point is 02:01:42 Y'all about to go shit. Y'all about to go shit. Y'all about to go shit. Y'all about to go shit. Y'all about to go shit. Y'all about how delusional this group is. He's really going to put on your 15-man roster a European player that you can't even argue for. But why?

Starting point is 02:01:52 You talk about stats and highlights, man. So somebody over there. We talk about niggas who can play, but they're the worst players. Name somebody over there you're going to put on your team. Yo, you'd be stuck on this shit, man. Go. Name somebody. Name a European player right now that's playing, that's killing. That'd be on your team. Yeah, you'd be stuck on this. Go. Name somebody. Name a European player right now that's playing, that's killing.

Starting point is 02:02:06 That'd be on your team. Man, fuck. That's a lot. Just name one. One great one. What's a great European player right now? That will make your team. That's gonna be great. That we don't know about? I'm gonna let him. I'm gonna let you argue for him, but I want him to name it. Oh, I'm not gonna argue for him? Go. We gotta look it up. Don't answer. Don't answer. Just, we gotta look it up. No, no. He's no, you know, he's not gonna tell us who we losing. No, no, tell them Don't say a goddamn word money name somebody the fifth He's saying it he said that he's gonna put people on his team

Starting point is 02:02:37 We that's the world what the whole name the world would the world would do not name them that we're gonna look them up Don't name them. It's a we got a up don't name them it's a mystery box don't say a damn word of course of course you can't say because he's gonna name him but you don't know him now you gotta we're gonna find him now you gotta argue for him on the player you don't even know we're gonna find you win the argument because you're scared you don't know who it is i'm putting boogie down brown Exactly Down brown that's who boogie down played in Oakland wasn't Amy. I was 57 point. That's not what the fuck y'all supposed to do in His argument in play

Starting point is 02:03:19 World it's the world best 15. How do we know him? I mean, we can't pick. You don't know him. He did. You don't know him. That's the point. He plays for the world. If you don't argue the world, nigga, you won't argue with him in a debate then. Because he's a professional. First of all, he's a professional, and he's winning. Whoever they're bringing in that we don't know about, he's definitely one of them.

Starting point is 02:03:48 And he's definitely known as one of the greatest European players ever. players ever for sure right do you not hear what i'm saying we they just signed a guy for what three for 35 million from coming to europe they never played one game yet what i'm saying is how are you going how are you going to argue against me on a guy that i don't know bro we're not arguing with you so how we have it to debate? We're picking teams. You picking your team. All you need to worry about, stop worrying about our fucking roster. Worry about your own fucking roster. You keep trying to mess you up. Who you going to pick? Because you two are arguing on the same argument,

Starting point is 02:04:18 but y'all don't even know the same player. Don't worry. We're going to get together, and we're going to pick our players. What I'm saying is, when the Olympic team go play against teams in the Olympics, we don't know all the players, but there's a guy out there kicking his ass. Kicking their ass.

Starting point is 02:04:33 Kicking their ass, right? So what's the difference? It's going to be the same thing. You see these two loophole-ers? He's talking about real life. You're talking about our debate. No, I'm not. We're talking about the same thing.

Starting point is 02:04:50 We're talking about picking 15. No, he's talking about real life. Yes, real life. talking about our debate no I'm not we're talking about the same thing we talk about picking 15 no he's talking about real life yes real life nigga I played overseas I do know what the fuck he's talking about nigga I'm talking about our debates we're not talking about a debate we're talking about real rosters nigga what are you talking about talking about a real roster for the NBA to try to input yes I'm talking about when we debate this on Tuesday. Okay. How is you gonna add some people into your I'm gonna fuck I'm gonna fit listen. I'm gonna ask internet They're definitely gonna tell me the top five players in Europe and you're gonna put them on a team Of course because they would do that. It's not gonna be all just in the players on the world team It's gonna be God that we never heard my world that are nice that don't the world. Okay, so I'm gonna add some Americans that I mean You're wasting the roster, nigga. Pick Frank Nitti if you want, nigga. Give me the Hezzy guys. Pick them if you want to, nigga.

Starting point is 02:05:48 Go pick Mavis Lowe, Hezzy guy. Yeah, go get whoever. These niggas over here play for best league and play for the top teams in Europe. Go get whoever. You got to give me some stats and say, oh, yeah, this dude averaged 7.7. He won championships. And I'm going to say, he's the top player in Europe. I mean, he's good enough to be on the top 15 right from the world, right? Yep.

Starting point is 02:06:03 Okay, that's not who I got. That's between them. That's between them. And how do I support? The chat? You think the chat is going to know who the fuck? I mean he's gonna be on the top 15 right? The chat you think the chat is gonna know who to fuck And why would you put them on your team cuz we talking that player is talking as fans We're talking as niggas who know about world of that world international world World. Okay. World. International World. So example, you're going to say, let's go with a man. Ishmael. Yeah. Uh huh. Right.

Starting point is 02:06:32 And then you're gonna be like, yeah, he cold. And I'm gonna be here like, yeah, he, he whoop their ass. That nigga should be over here playing five games. Serious 15. If you make the best 15 ever, that means you're good. And I'm... Yeah, right. Knock it on that door.

Starting point is 02:06:50 What I'm saying is... Knock it on that door. Beat that shit. No, no, no. What I'm saying is, how is he gonna make the best 15 if we're creating it for the first time? Because it's the best 15 that the world wants to see play against the best 15 from us.

Starting point is 02:07:04 We can't... Listen, of course we're gonna make it in can't... Are we talking in theory or are we trying to make this a real thing? If it's a real thing, it don't matter. If your 15 show up to Paris, they have no idea who we gonna show up with. So this is a lot of debate then. It is a debate.

Starting point is 02:07:19 Because you're playing against the world. First of all, I mean... I thought you was gonna pick your 15 European players. No, you just thought our 15 was gonna be in the world. I mean, what I'm saying is why we debate. First of all, I mean, I mean, we're going to be was, I thought you was going to pick your 15 European. No, you just thought our 15 was going to be an NBA. That's yeah.

Starting point is 02:07:29 Yeah. That's what you thought. No, it's not. We said the world, we don't worry about 15 European players that played in the NBA

Starting point is 02:07:35 because the top 15 niggas that's in the US against the top 15 of the world. You're playing against the world. So you're playing niggas that just played

Starting point is 02:07:45 Top line security of the world Craig understand what they're trying to do and that how it don't make sense It does make sense. We're gonna make more gonna say all this guy is the Michael Jordan over there. Okay? He probably is the fuck What what says he is it don't matter if you watch your 12 and be confident with your 12 We don't worry about our Michael Jordan's right? know when he get out there he might do some mike we're going we're going we're going to let the chat help decide please chat help me the chat i know the chat got 12 european players we'll put a panel together of esteemed hoopers that'll come through too but that'll be in august but we gotta we gotta curtail this chat for right now let's do

Starting point is 02:08:22 it let's get to it we gotta get the most defense get to most defense. Let's get to most defense. Let's get to most defense. What they asking? It's a great show today, god damn it. Mr. Jennings. I don't know what these other shows doing. Nothing. But we out here getting it. I know they ain't even visualizing a whole bunch of players that don't exist.

Starting point is 02:08:37 They do exist. Yes. They do exist. Yes. And 2K, too. They exist. European basketball is at a high level right now. He knows it.

Starting point is 02:08:45 Or he doesn't. Overseas. They a high level right now. He knows it, or he doesn't. They're running the league now. He knows it. Thank you to LeBron and Steph for winning the championship in 2022 and 2020. 2022 and, I mean, 2020. You can name them 20. You can name them just three big men. That's it.

Starting point is 02:09:00 Go. For the rest, I know the show is never going to end once I ask this question, but I'm going to ask it anyway. Go ahead. This comes from B Morale. He says, if Dame goes to the heat with Jimmy there and the heat win the chip, did Jimmy Butler make Damian Lillard better? Yeah! That's the point!

Starting point is 02:09:17 Did Jimmy Butler make Dame Lillard? No! Because he don't even have a ring either. So how? He don't even have a ring. So no. We just trying to just... shit, Pat Rowley making us better. That's why he got us here. That's who get the chip. Pat Rowley. Ha.

Starting point is 02:09:30 I like that. Next question. Next question. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Hey, who said that? Who said that?

Starting point is 02:09:37 Be Morale or anything. Be Morale. You should get some of that. You should get some of that. Some fantasy money. That was stupid. Give him some underdog fantasy money. That was stupid. That was stupid. That was stupid. Give him some underdog fantasy, bro. Underdog fantasy.

Starting point is 02:09:45 That was stupid. That was stupid. That was stupid. Because the nigga don't even have a ring. So nigga, I see. We're going to start hitting underdog fantasy. Tam, I know you watching this. Nick and the rest of the crew, underdog fantasy.

Starting point is 02:09:53 Block that nigga. If they ask a good Mousy fans question, we should put some bread in their account. I love blocking the motherfucker. We're going gonna start putting ready Make sure you got an underdog fantasy account if you get featured on mostly fans you got an underdog fantasy account We go put some bread in there. We gotta start rewarding you Next question block is there the next question is from the average guest average gas fee Not the great guess me the average guess me he's uh who deserves a ring more

Starting point is 02:10:26 dame cp3 or russ that's an average ass question next mr drill we know we know it ain't gonna be cp3 for him uh can we get cp3 on the show y'all can hug you know who has a who deserves one russ from la russ russ can't argue with triple double machine russ i always go with the i always go with the longest tension so cp3 i go with someone who can't really do it himself anymore cp3 okay i'm gonna go with the guy who hasn't had the opportunity cp3 you've had multiple opportunities with who with who with who with who with who next come on man wait hold on with the now i already said we have players that dames never had no one said but what what would he russell westbrook has played with players that dame willard has never had yeah but russ been

Starting point is 02:11:20 to the finals though russ has been to the finals. So, Dane, if you give him somebody who deserves the opportunity. Yeah, Dane. We can say the same thing. He had all the time. For sure, yeah. He deserved more. For sure. I'm rolling.

Starting point is 02:11:34 Aldridge and all of them? It wasn't good? I'm rolling. Who? What'd you say? Aldridge? Did you say Aldridge? Aldridge.

Starting point is 02:11:40 You talking about Aldridge with? Aldridge. With Brandon Roy Aldridge? Yeah. Aldridge. Did he play with Dan one year? Aldridge. He said Aldridge. He said Aldridge. Aldridge What's up with Aldridge With Aldridge With Brandon Roy Aldridge Yeah Aldridge Did he play with Dan one year Aldridge He said Aldridge He said Aldridge

Starting point is 02:11:49 Aldridge That's him reaching That nigga He reaching Niggas is clicking up Teaming up on each other You got to be faster than that That's like

Starting point is 02:11:56 I'm Switzerland That's like I'm neutral I'm trying to figure out When does he be That's like Paul Gasol And Aldridge I'm trying to figure out

Starting point is 02:12:02 When does he be Have a chance to win a chip With James Harden? No, with the Suns? With the Rockets? With the Suns? With the Clippers? With the Rockets?

Starting point is 02:12:11 No, Clippers more than the Rockets. Clip Rockets? Rockets whole team was six foot and under. What does that have to do with having an opportunity to win a championship? The Suns? They lost to Six. I mean, the Suns. I mean, the Suns.

Starting point is 02:12:24 But I wouldn't say the Rockets. I'd say Clippers. I'd say Clippers more. Shit. Rockets. The whole roster was five foot six foot four. I don't care about none of those excuses. How's that an excuse?

Starting point is 02:12:35 You're giving excuses. I'd say Clippers more than the Rockets. I'm going with Dan. Last question for y'all. This comes from... The Rockets. That average-ass question. This comes from...

Starting point is 02:12:43 Is the average Block block This is why you can't is why you can't stop with if you see I just throw y'all to the wall Yeah, cuz I'm not talking shit. We don't know Cool, I'm the flyers in the chat. Ask them who the flyest. They want to see me every week. Every week. Every week. I'm in here every week.

Starting point is 02:13:09 I love them. Our production team said your questions are kind of mid. So y'all got to get together. Get on a Discord. Get on a chat. GBT.

Starting point is 02:13:17 Formulate some good questions together amongst yourselves. Vote on them and then bring them to the actual show. But last question for you from Jay Clarkson. What are you doing with the billion dollar. What are you doing with the billion dollar

Starting point is 02:13:26 winning Powerball ticket? So if you won that Powerball and won that billion dollars. Ask Gil last. Ask Gil last. Man, you go with you first. Shit, building tough crowd, getting away from all y'all. Y'all will never see me ever again.

Starting point is 02:13:44 I mean, I'm going to go build my own damn city. I'm going to go to Catalina. I'm going right to Catalina. I'm going to still be here in Louisiana. That's fucked up. Yep. And then I'm going to start

Starting point is 02:13:55 You're just tying your back on us? Now I'm going to start my own black welfare for my people. I'm going to start my own black welfare. Only black people can get it. And you got to graduate

Starting point is 02:14:04 from high school. So shit. There's going to be a lot of niggas left in the car. That's fine. They're going to start my own black welfare. Only black people can get it. And you got to graduate from high school. So shit, there's going to be a lot of niggas left in the car. That's fine. They're going to love me. Rashad, what did you do with that billy? Kingdom. I knew it. Bill, a fucking Wakanda.

Starting point is 02:14:16 I knew it, Bill. Everybody wear crowns and shit. Shabba. And robes. And rubies and diamonds all over the streets and shit. I already know where he's going to get all of them. You know what I'm saying? Gold bricks and shit. I already know where he's going to get all of them. You know what I'm saying? Gold bricks and shit.

Starting point is 02:14:26 You'll get a custom crown. All of that. You got, everybody got 16 bitches. You know what I'm saying? You get all, you get what you want. There ain't no haters. No haters allowed. No hating allowed.

Starting point is 02:14:38 Man, ain't no haters allowed in our ecosystem. There's an EMP. I'm pushing a button and electrocute all haters. You hear that? No hating allowed. Y'all niggas be really mean spirited. Again, damnMP I'm pushing a button and electrocute all here that no hating a lot I think it'd be really mean-spirited again damn I'm seeing all the comments on the percent I ain't trippin damn feelings billions no hurt yeah I was don't come to work like I didn't win cuz I did play and it is California so I could be a winner. I could be downtown I don't know I

Starting point is 02:15:11 Wouldn't let nobody know I want cuz I won't pay child support on the billion dollars. Oh That's why you got No, give back that's why you got to start a well start you gotta get back. why you gotta get back if I get back and then they get rich and we know get back That's why you got to start a well start you gotta get back. Yeah, you're not gonna pay the debt What that the child support did I got no debt my child support goes up. So a billion 300,000 a man How many more years you got live you got like four more years? I'm gonna smoke it just like you know, I want I'm being here like

Starting point is 02:15:47 Anything else every just like this. Yeah, that was a good one Oh, no you for sure. Oh, no you go for sure. I know I'm yawning on those she will be work I'm opposed post. Everybody get raises. Everybody get raises. Y'all hear that? Y'all hear that shit on Tuesday? You're going to cut this out just in case. You're going to lie. Just in case my mom watch it.

Starting point is 02:16:14 I'm like, hey, everybody get a little raise. Everybody get a little raise in here. Y'all know I'm one of the winners. You know I'm one of the winners. Y'all know I done won like three times. Y'all going to see me. Right next to Jay. Jay, what up?

Starting point is 02:16:28 The fact that you a leaver. You see this nigga leavers for some reason. I'm not leaving y'all. A billion dollars? A billion dollars? I'm a chair? Listen, a billion dollars. I'm gonna come on whenever I feel like it.

Starting point is 02:16:38 Scoot over. Scoot over. Hey, freedom. Scoot over. Freedom. Scoot over. What? You see chat? As Hey, freedom. Scoot over. Freedom. Scoot over. Z-Chat. As usual, Thursday.

Starting point is 02:16:49 Ladies and gentlemen in the chat, all the staff and crew, we appreciate y'all pulling up with us on Guilds Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Next week on Tuesday for more shenanigans and hijinks. We appreciate y'all. Have a great weekend. Except for all y'all niggas in the chat that was hating you Have a terrible weekend. Yeah, I know that chops were gonna be high as hell though. They're gonna be chasing you

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