Gil's Arena - Gilbert Arenas Sends A HOSTILE Threat To Skip Bayless!!

Episode Date: March 18, 2025

Gil's Arena Gives A HOSTILE Response To Skip Bayless as Gil & The Gil's Arena Crew break down an up & down season for Jokic & The Nuggets and debate if this season is the last opportunity for Denver's... championship core of Jokic, Jamal Murray, Michael Porter Jr and Aaron Gordon to go for another title before the team decides to blow it up. They then react to another impressive game for Luka Doncic & The Lakers as the Lake Show smothered the San Antonio Spurs in their 4th game in 5 nights and the great white hopes of Luka Doncic and Austin Reaves continued to prove they can carry the team without LeBron James. They debate Lemon Daddy's ceiling in the league as he continues to improve and discuss what the Lakers squad has shown during LeBron's absence. Next, they react to the news that Paul George is out for the season as the Philadephia 76er's year from hell continues and highlight Quintin Grimes as only bright spot for the 76ers this season. Finally, they break down Karl Anthony Towns' resurgent season for the New York Knicks and get real on if the team's beef with Coach Thibs' minutes policy if for real or fugazi. Please give us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Brandon Jennings, Nick Young & Rashad McCants Gil's Arena Merch is Available NOW at https://gilsarenamerch.com/ Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Credits and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena If you need to hire for your business and want an easier way to find qualified candidates, head to https://ZipRecruiter.com/GIL to try for FREE. Download the NetSuite CFO’s Guide to AI and Machine Learning FREE at https://netsuite.com/GIL USE Code GIL10 for 10% off tickets on SeatGeek https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL10 Join the Playback chat to interact with Gil and Josiah https://www.playback.tv/gilbertarenas SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog Stream Josiah's Film "Memes & Nightmares" Available NOW on Hulu and Disney+ 0:00:00 2 Min Countdown 0:01:57 How Gil Became A Selfish Hooper 0:07:08 The World Wants SMOKE With Mr B 0:12:45 Paul George Shut Down For The Season 0:28:36 Daryl Morey Uses AI To Make Decisions 0:51:41 This Is The Last Dance For Jokic & The Nuggets 1:11:26 NBA Teams Are Resting Stars To Play The Lakers 1:15:30 Gil Shreds The NBA Over Sportsmanship 1:29:34 Gilbert Arenas FIRES BACK At Skip Bayless 1:43:04 Steph Curry EXHAUSTED From Carrying The Warriors 1:57:58 Gil's Arena Hates The Play-In Tournament 2:05:40 The All White Lakers Can't Stop Winning 2:09:16 Lemon Daddy Is LeBron's Best Teammate Ever 2:29:58 MostlyFans Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:50 It's a lot of- All over. A lot of talent is being issued. And people looking for us. I guess that's what happens. You run these numbers up. Rough in them streets. They want face. My back is rolling out.
Starting point is 00:01:04 On and off the court? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Okay. I see you, Swaggy. Champ. Champ P. Oh, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:01:12 My apologies. Champ P. Yeah. Like the glasses? Appreciate you. From winner to winner, I understand you. Okay. Yeah. You know, I'm a champion of the internet.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Yeah. This is Gil Zerino, presented by Unique. I'm a champion of the internet. I'm a champion of the internet. I'm a champion of the internet. I'm a champion of the internet. I'm a Yeah. You know, I'm a champion of the Internet. Yeah. This is Gil Zerino presented by Underdog. Whoop, whoop! Whoop, whoop!
Starting point is 00:01:31 As always, we got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us. What up, what up? Damn, man. The leg. That direct deposit must not have hit. I mean, you know, when you ain't claiming wins. Hey, any win counts? Uh, it depends. Special ed spelling bee. Oh, my God. Third grade. When you ain't claiming wins, any win counts? It depends. Special ed spelling bee.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Oh, my God. Third grade. That's a good one. That's hard. Special ed. That's hard because they count you out. Don't put me in the class. You ain't never won nothing else.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Spell A. You ain't never won nothing else. I didn't win a regular one, no. No, but he ain't. No, not a regular one. Get it wrong. I didn't win a regular one. Get it wrong. There he ain't. I didn't win a regular one. No, not a regular one. I didn't win a regular one. Get it wrong.
Starting point is 00:02:07 There's a lot of A's out there. I had four. I had four people of my kind. A-Y-E. That was a big deal. You taking a nap, man? Nothing else like a ball. Taking a nap, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:15 All that. When? When? Like recess? Like nothing? You didn't win that like P-E? Like P-E? Yeah, mile runs every Friday.
Starting point is 00:02:24 I won all that. That's basically about it. Y'all didn't win that PE? Like PE? Yeah, mile runs every Friday. I won all that. That's basically about nothing. Y'all didn't have a basketball tournament during lunch in that PE? One-on-ones? No, we left 14, like 5-on-5. Yeah, like at lunch. You know, at lunch, everybody got their five back in the day.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Oh, y'all don't know what era I came from. Dude, we the same age yeah I didn't start I didn't start basketball till 12 I forgot you will think about who was popping at my age Michael Jordan mmm iso-keen hmm I want to be like Mike mm-hmm so I learned selfish behavior before team basketball I didn't know team concepts. I didn't know play as a team. All I knew was me. So it was you versus five people.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Yeah, yeah. I played one-on-one on the basketball court. I didn't understand. And that's Michael Jordan's fault. No, no, no, no. That's not Michael Jordan's fault. I just, that's what I, I didn't grow up on, you know, the Magic Johnson, boom, boom. When I learned basketball, it basketball, that was the vision.
Starting point is 00:03:27 But I thought Penny was your guy. When did Penny come in? I was a high school kid already. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Penny was... Yeah, when I first... Penny came in 95. Yeah. When I touched the basketball, I was 12. I was in fifth grade then.
Starting point is 00:03:42 You was in fifth grade in 95? Yeah. We're dating ourselves over here, but On this side of the house work Bringing this championship experience to the couch and with his glasses no man came when I was in high championship piece swaggy Right so you wasn't in high school yet. Championship introduction. You said Penny came in. I graduated in 99.
Starting point is 00:04:09 So what were you, 95, ninth grade? Can you introduce other people? Oh, you was in seventh grade. You said you was in fifth grade though. OK. I will do your championship introduction one more time, Swaggy. Champ P.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Sorry, my bad. And bringing his championship experience to the count. Championship P, Nick Young. Six-time champion. Yeah, I've been winning in life, you know. It's hard to do, but somebody got to do it, right? Somebody has to have championship experience. I can be the example for the winners, you know?
Starting point is 00:04:46 This is what winning look like over here. Amen. Preach. And on this side of the couch, the man known as Cemetery Larry. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Also a champion. No.
Starting point is 00:04:56 What? There's no more Cemetery. We've just Larry. It's just Larry now? It's just Larry. Just Larry? Yeah, they can't say that on corporate TV. And the man known just Larry. It's just Larry now? It's just Larry. It's just Larry? Yeah, they can't say that on corporate TV. And the man known as Larry.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Thank you. Rashad McKenzie. Larry. Mike Larry. Just Larry. Just Larry. We dropped it. Larry the cable man.
Starting point is 00:05:23 And representing Tough Crowd, Tough Crowd University, we got Mr. B, Brandon Jennings, back on the couch. Mr. B, a lot of people want your face. Yeah, Mr. B. Your name should be Mr. B. Kelsey Plum, I mean. Oh my God. They looking for you in these streets. They said they want to get you bucky.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Jeff Teague and them? Jeff Teague, Kelsey Plum. Beef Jennings. Are you working out? I Teague, Kelsey Plum. Some Beef Jennings. Are you working out? Beef Jennings. I just said, are you working out? Yeah, you better. Yeah, I mean. Yeah, I walk my dog.
Starting point is 00:05:54 You walk your dog. Feed him rough greens. You be dribbling the ball when you walk? Yeah, at the same time. Okay, okay, okay. As long as I got that, right? Yeah, that's true. Up and down the street.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Because these last couple days, last Thursdays, ain't been looking too good. I've been playing in y'all in vans. I played y'all in vans and slacks. There's no excuse, no excuse. In a McDonald's too? We was in vans too. In a McDonald's?
Starting point is 00:06:21 We was in vans. I just hopped out of a van. You just hopped out of a van. You just hopped out of a van? Yeah, he got seven kids, so he can't have no regular car. He gotta drop the kids off at the school, then come here. See, I party. Nah, this is the shit that I'm talking about. No, wait.
Starting point is 00:06:35 That's why people on the streets think they can talk to me like that, because of you. How do the people on the streets talk to you, championship? They don't call you championship, Pete. Nah, they be disrespecting me. I'm like, man, that's the only Gil could do that. Nah, man, he ain't getting too comfortable. He ain't getting too comfortable. He's making this shit feel like it's normal.
Starting point is 00:06:54 You got a pull-up on him? You got a LeBron number four? You got a pull-up on him? Give him the smoke. For all the fans, we still got two viewing options for you. Our traditional version, mobile vertical version, pick whichever one you want to watch. Just make sure you support the show.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Here's what's cracking in the arena today. Jalen Brunson will be out until at least late March or early April with his sprained ankle. But can Cat and company keep the Knicks afloat? Or is Tibbs going to run them to the ground? After getting pool-partied this weekend, the Nuggets got their ninth straight win over the Warriors without Joker and Jamal Murray in the lineup. Is this the last dance for their championship core?
Starting point is 00:07:29 They're third in the West right now. You know, even if they get past the Warriors, they got to see the Lakers. It's not. It's going to be over for them. Somebody got to go, and it ain't Joker. And Austin Reeves has been playing at an all-NBA level. Wait, what?
Starting point is 00:07:43 Said somebody got to go, and it ain't Joker. You just said they're gonna play the Lakers. At some point. And someone gotta go and it ain't Joker. No, after they get eliminated from the playoffs by either the Warriors or the Lakers. Someone gotta lead a team. Somebody has to lead. You scared me.
Starting point is 00:08:00 I thought you was jinxing us. No, no. My bad, boss. We are not traditional media. We can show our allegiances and loyalty. All right. Carry on. Austin, you call me boss. You the boss, Gil.
Starting point is 00:08:10 You responsible for my direct deposit. And Austin Reeves has been playing at an all-NBA level with LeBron out of the Lakers lineup. What's AR-15's ceiling in the league? He's got a lot of love and support from Luka Doncic. The Caucasian Lakers have won two straight games. But before we get into all that, as always, the show is brought to you by Underdog. Go ahead, download the app, use promo code GIL, get up to $1,000 in bonus cash, plus a special pick-em. As for tonight, Larry has some picks up in his partner pack on the Underdog app.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Let's take a look at Larry's. See, they got, but they still got the first part. No, no, I'm going to make a call. You know, we have that power. It's just for today. Okay. All right. Oh, okay. We got Dyson Daniels. Got to get my highlight reel up, get my reels up. He's been balling. Dyson Daniels higher 10.5 rebounds and assists. Cam Johnson higher 22.5 points rebounds. Draymond Green lower 22.5 points rebounds and assists. Darius Garland, higher 25.5 points and assists. And Jared Allen, I think he'll get a double-double against the Clippers. Cavs are in L.A. tonight. I like it. You rolling with it? 20 times X? That look like an insane Harry Pickens. I respect it. If you're going to do a Pickens,
Starting point is 00:09:22 you got to go all in and try to get that hard to get that kind of It's it's hard to get that kind of spread right there my green gotta go 21 times Hey, my money one times your brain my green gotta guard yannis tonight. No, it's back-to-back man. Oh They tired they exhausted. Oh three five and five Even play Okay They look tired up there. I thought you were about to say, um, step out. I'm glad. I want them to be tired. Okay, because he does that. I was about to say he does that. I want them to be tired. Against that Nugget Squad, coming into the Bay.
Starting point is 00:09:48 That's the only way y'all can win, right? Mm, what? Milwaukee. When Milwaukee, when other teams are tired. So we asked the chat, are you riding or fading with Larry's picks? 57% of the chat is riding with Larry's. He cussing. How much?
Starting point is 00:10:02 57%. He cussing. 57% of the chat is riding with Larry's. How much? 57%. 57% of the chat. Not bad. If you like these picks
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Starting point is 00:11:21 Got to talk about the Sixers, unfortunately. Sixers announced they will shut down Paul George for the rest of the regular season as he deals with injuries to his left groin and knee. His left groin, dude. Man, look at that left groin. PG played 41 games in his first season in Philly, averaging 16.5 rebounds, 4 assists per game on 43-36-81 shooting splits. As a reminder, he joined Philly with high expectations this offseason
Starting point is 00:11:46 after signing a four-year, $212 million contract to replace Tobias Harris. What went wrong for PG this season in Philly? What went wrong? Yeah. Preseason. Did it have that hyperextension? Preseason. Did it have that hyperextension? Preseason. Very early on.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Maybe an emotional departure. Yeah, I was about to say that. Right? Let's just be honest. I'm pretty sure he didn't want to be in Philly. He didn't want to go to Philly. Nobody want to go to Philly. So just the fact that just the energy itself has just been off a little bit,
Starting point is 00:12:25 and from there it just trickled down. So why'd he go? 2-12. So saw a situation with the Clippers, and then Kawhi got that 3-for-1, 53. 2-12. So I guess his lesson is that all money ain't good money. Whoa. That's good.
Starting point is 00:12:42 What do you mean? Money is good. No, that's all. What do you mean? It's an emotional decision, so you made an emotional decision because of the paper, not because of what was really best for you. Yeah, I get that.
Starting point is 00:12:54 No, I'm just saying, right? You can't say that and then... No, no, no. Because if it's an emotional decision, so that means you don't want to go, but damn, 212, I need that money, but I can go here and still win and have a better. But the 212, though, it's the money. He winning real.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Winning a championship? So I get 160 to lose in the first round or the second, and I get 212 to not even make it. To not even make it, and then you're not going to even make it next year. Give me the 212. That team would have been cold. Okay, so don't. Lose first round and be the Clippers?
Starting point is 00:13:31 Okay, so don't. They're not losing the first round. That's what I'm saying. You're not losing the first round with Paul. No, no. So the motion. As a Clipper? Right.
Starting point is 00:13:38 $53 million a year. You're not losing the first round. Not in the first round right now. Not right now. Not right now. Not right now. They would have been cold. If Paul was in the Clippers right now. They would have been cold. They would go to the second round. Woo! Prior to the first round. now. Not right now. Not right now. Not right now. They would have been cold.
Starting point is 00:13:46 They would have been cold. They would go to the second round. Woo! Prior to first round. I said first and second. No, no, no. I think higher than that. I say higher than that. All of them healthy?
Starting point is 00:13:53 I know they can get out the first round for sure. All of them healthy? No, no, no. They're healthy. But would they have been healthy? The Clippers. Yeah, for sure. Would they have been healthy?
Starting point is 00:13:59 They have a better chance than... Is Kawhi still playing, right? Kawhi is playing. And B can't even play back play back to back, so that... Okay, let me try this again. You can't play for the quarterback. 160 to lose in the Western Conference Finals, or 212 to not make the playoffs? Man, bro.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Think about it. Think about it, kid. Okay. Do this mess up his legacy? Is he still first ballot? Is he the whole thing? Wait, hold on. 160?
Starting point is 00:14:24 As a Clipper? With my owner like this? To go to the conference finals. No, but with the owner that we got? And you're going to take 212 to never go again and then cry about emotional decisions? No, we're not doing that. No, we're not doing that.
Starting point is 00:14:36 No, you wanted the money, so this is what you got. So that's fine. I can tell you this. So my thing is, too, don't stop doing the podcast. That's what I'm saying. 160 with the podcast No, that's what he said he said it was a emotional decision, but I said that it looked good on paper MB Everything good on paper
Starting point is 00:15:03 It's gotta go out there and play. Phoenix Sun. We see that a lot. Yeah, everything look good on paper. And it's for real. It's hard leaving, being in LA that long, then just leaving to Philly. Philly ain't got shit to do.
Starting point is 00:15:13 160, and my owner like this, and all we got to do is win? Have you seen Philly? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you decided to go to Philly. Yeah, leaving $70 million on the table. Basketball, thinking we about to win. You decided that. If everybody healthy, they.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Nick, where's the accountability? He didn't go to the series because he thought they'd be mid, right? Thought the big three would be maxing. That's the thought. On paper, that's the championship. Early last summer. Fuck the thought.
Starting point is 00:15:36 I'm just saying. You did it. You made the decision. He made that decision when he had the money. He made the emotional decision. So where's the accountability? Accountability on him getting hurt? No, no, it's not an emotional.
Starting point is 00:15:46 No, I just don't like the emotion. Just, yo, this is the decision I made. All right, boom. Yeah. Like, what went wrong was it was just, dang, I came here for the money. I made a bad decision. I came here for the tooth.
Starting point is 00:15:57 But the Clippers did it. It looks like it. They did it all for him that morning. It looked like it. It looked like it. Did the Clippers offer him? So Clippers, I believe, tried to get, according to PG, Clippers tried to give him a similar deal to Kawhi.
Starting point is 00:16:05 He said, all right, throw in a no-trade clause. They balked at that, said no thanks. At which point. That's fine. I mean, you can have it. That's fine. I just don't like the excuses. He didn't give no excuses.
Starting point is 00:16:17 He didn't give shit. You just said. I said it. He said what went wrong. What went wrong is. Emotional decision. Yeah, that's my. It went wrong. I'm just going off good. I know. So said what went wrong. What went wrong is... Emotional decision. Yeah, that's my... It went wrong.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Emotional decision. I know, so I'm going back. So if it's emotional... Then you get hurt, and then from there, just been bad after bad omen. That's what I'm saying. You probably got to go to church, bro.
Starting point is 00:16:37 All of it. They need to cleanse that whole goddamn locker room. You got to go to church. Y'all need to sage that motherfucker. When you start off with bad energy, it ends with bad energy. For real, for real. I mean, Dallas is facing that too right now.
Starting point is 00:16:50 When you start off with bad energy, you finish with bad energy. So I want to go back to something you said. I mean, can we all on this couch agree PG Hall of Famer? Because the chat seems to believe that he's not a Hall of Famer, some people. Yes, he's a Hall of Famer. Okay, just... First ballot? Should be, yeah. Okay. not a Hall of Famer some people yes he's all okay just first ballot if he should be yeah okay I mean you mean still got to finish this career yeah but where it
Starting point is 00:17:12 stands right now if it career ended today no he won't be how many first first teams oh I think one first team all NBA five third teams and then a couple all defensive teams gold medal podcast the way of all-defensive teams. Gold medal. Podcast. The way they ended... Nine all-star games? Yeah, here, make it. The way this ended, he wouldn't be a Hall of Famer right after. The way this season,
Starting point is 00:17:33 if he stopped today, he'd be a Hall of Famer... What is it, nine all-star? So, nine all-stars, six all-NBA teams. Five years. Nine all-stars, six all-NBA teams,
Starting point is 00:17:43 four all-DVL teams. Stay on that. Stay on that. I, no, no. Stay on that. Stay on that. I can't hear you. Stay on that. That's what you said. I know what you're thinking. Yes.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Nine All-Stars, six All-NBA selections, four All-Defense, two First Team, two Second Team All-Defense selections. Yeah. Gold medal. Most improved player. It's five years from now, so, yeah, he'll be first ballot. Oh, okay. And went to high school in Palmdale, which I think has to mean something.
Starting point is 00:18:06 I just hope Derrick Rose is first ballot. All the fame campaign, what? I just hope Derrick Rose is first ballot. Okay. So what's the first ballot? That's five years? That's all I want. After you retire?
Starting point is 00:18:16 After you retire. Oh, okay. I agree. So I just hope the youngest MVP ever. It's four years now. Oh, it's four years then? Oh, it's four years? Yeah, they got to sell they gotta sell them tickets.
Starting point is 00:18:26 All right. We need more big names in there. Four years after you retire? Ooh. Shit, I might be a first ballot in this. Huh? What happened? So I gotta remember, so whoever he retires with,
Starting point is 00:18:40 that's kinda like the group. Yeah. Do they retire teams? Like my, my. Oh, so who you, oh, so who retire? The Warriors squad. Yes, it's four years. So most likely when he goes in,
Starting point is 00:18:49 depending on who he retires with, most likely it'd be put in with someone who's from the past. Yeah. Okay. He's a log jam of former players. Yeah, it'd be a log, yes. Right, gotcha. Former Clippers as well. They'd be like, yeah, PG, Muggsy Bowles.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Right. Latrell, Sprewell, Choke. Not Latrell. We were just the... And all those guys would be in the first ballot. No, no, no. Their ballot has been up. That might be 10 ballot.
Starting point is 00:19:18 That would be his first time. Whoever retired the same season that he retired. Okay, okay. I'll be up for it. Okay, okay, I get it. So how many people do they put? It just depends. Usually anywhere from like four to eight ranks. So basically if
Starting point is 00:19:29 LeBron, Steph, all these guys retired at the same time he did then, yeah, he probably won't make it. Gotcha. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Because they'll all be ready up at the same time. Okay. So let's keep this moving but there are reports that the Sixers may be looking to move PG in the offseason.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Damn. Just a year after he joined the roster to form a big three with former MVP Joel Embiid, Tyrese Maxey. But for the gentleman on this couch, obviously high-level basketball knowledge. Do you believe PG can turn it around next season, and will it be with the Sixers? Yeah, I do believe he can turn it around. I mean, if you take care of your body this summer and really get right, yeah, you can. I mean, I don't count him out just because he is a proven player. At the end of the day, he's still, you know, he can still play and he can still defend.
Starting point is 00:20:16 He can still do his thing. It's just he got to take care of his body to me. I think he got to learn how to get his old man game. He's still stuck on young PG, going tween, tween, pulling up threes, step backs. I think he got to learn how to adjust to getting easy points, man. What's old man game?
Starting point is 00:20:38 Like, as far as, like... You got to get what the defense give you. The block? Yeah, nah. Get in that corner sometimes, quick moves. People rushing at you, you know, quick moves. You can't sit there and dribble and think this slow shit gonna work on some young legs. So like 12, 15 foot?
Starting point is 00:20:57 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Get to that block post up. Because he could adjust to being, what, 3'4 now? You know, that's how they doing it. He's 6'8. LeBron did it. You think it's over? I think he just needs to figure out his why. His what? His why. His why? Yeah. Why I'm doing this shit still. This some KD shit. Watch KD. Why? Why? Why? Like, if I'm not trying to win a championship,
Starting point is 00:21:28 I'm not chasing that on no specific goal, you're showing everybody your why is just kind of up in the air. You don't think you got a goal? I don't know. I'm saying I think if you refocus a goal or change it, it shows everybody else that that energy is gonna go somewhere else, because the energy that that energy is going to go somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Because the energy going right now is going towards one way. I think his goal is to win a championship. He said it. Yeah, I think he said it. Does it look like that? But I think he listens to the world. It don't look like that. So a lot of people say things that don't look like that.
Starting point is 00:21:59 So you think with this time, you think he should rehab? Like be able to take, I mean, the only way you you're gonna be able to prove that if you're healthy I mean he said he stopped the podcast to focus on team success he wasn't hurt he wasn't hurt when he said that so now he's he's injured and he want to focus on his like his injury so you're gonna pick up podcasting again yeah you're doing that you should I'm saying? So it's like you got to find your identity again. Like who are you, the basketball player or the podcaster? Shouldn't he film his journey, though, since he got the podcast?
Starting point is 00:22:35 Wouldn't that, I mean, you still, I mean, the cameras be in there and filming with your journey. Should it? Should you? Yeah. Would that be a distraction? No. Would it make you work on it? Yeah. Would that be a distraction? No. Would it make you work on it? No.
Starting point is 00:22:46 I don't think if he's getting this- Or if you just get down there in that cave by yourself one time, just grind it out and come back to the surface and let everybody know what it is. You got to show nobody, tell nobody. So you say he don't need it because he got the money? He got the- Yeah, he got the fame. He got everything.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Right now, it's about proving something to himself. He got to prove nothing to us. He's got about six or seven months to do that, obviously being shut down for the season, looking ahead to next season. Three years remaining on his deal. Got a player option in last year. I think it's about $160 million that he's owed. If you were another team around the league...
Starting point is 00:23:17 You're not paying for that. Would you... Don't you think he got to stop listening to the media and shit? Like, say, fuck it. Like, he got to stop listening to the media and shit? Like, say fuck it? Like, he listens to everything. Like, man, people told him to stop podcasting. You hear rumblings of it, he stopped. Yeah, but that's why he should.
Starting point is 00:23:37 They go to Philly, he went to Philly. Inside, when you did pee, it got to him, he already was missing. He went to that dark place in the injury. I remember talking to him after the injury. He came back. He was like, man, I thought I was done. So he battled all the way back. Got to OKC.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Had that big season at OKC. Felt back to himself. Go to the Clippers. You know, they couldn't stay healthy. So that fuck with your mind, too, when you're trying to figure it out. You know what I'm saying? So now he's moved to this next chapter where he's more successful and it feels better with the podcast than it does trying to chase a championship. And I'm not speaking for him, but that's what it looked like.
Starting point is 00:24:17 It looked like that because the podcast is more successful, like I said, than the team is. So it's like you've got to recalib everything I think I think you should film his rehab his journey we can actually see like what he go through every day if it'll be it out there he get easier shots too so I think that would prolong his career too so I think everybody got to be on the floor is it fair for us to say though that sometimes we don't notice that they're on a decline at a certain age? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I believe that.
Starting point is 00:24:50 I believe that, too. I believe that, too. But even though they put up similar numbers, like, hey, he's putting up numbers, but you can see a decline, but he still can do it. Yeah, 36. I think PG would be 35. Nobody want to say it's like these dudes not moving the same. look older Kawhi all the look kind of you look a step Slow and you still can get you cuz you're smarter, you know, we like you smarter you can go get it But it don't look the same. We're giving you this much money with this expectation
Starting point is 00:25:19 So the critics are gonna look harsher Because we like yo, we just gave you 50 mil, bro. You got to give us more than this. But if you say that, are you hating? Yeah. So if you say- But I'm me, I'm a hater. Not you, I'm me.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Not saying shit, that's hate. What you think, dude? We've been in this situation. I put some hate on it. But somebody averaging, I don't think it's hate, it's just you seeing the game. Like, it's a decline, it's nice, but it's just you're seeing the game. It's a decline. It's nice, but it's just.
Starting point is 00:25:46 As we point out, PG will be 35 in May. Like I said, three more years on that deal, two plus a player option. No, I mean, I get taking the money, the 212 at 34. So this side, you say, take the bread, worry about all the other stuff later. Yeah. You said he took it. He took the bread. Okay. but as a general principle and rule for life Give me my money
Starting point is 00:26:16 So we asked the chat is PG a Hall of Famer 59% of the chest says no. Really? No? Well, I guess they're going to be very upset when he retires and then it says Hall of Fame. It's not about your feelings. It's all about accolades. Do you have enough accolades to get you into the Hall of Fame? He's a Hall of Fame. He has more than enough accolades to be able to accomplish it.
Starting point is 00:26:44 It ain't about what your feelings are. It's about accolades, and his accolades is first ballot. I think pretty easy, close to 19,000 points. Yeah. 5,600 rebounds, 3,300 assists. Yeah. Career averages of 20, excuse me, 21, 6 and 4. Nine All-Star games. I think it was about to be his lead before he got hurt, right? career averages of 21, 6, and 4, nine All-Star games.
Starting point is 00:27:09 I think it was about to be his lead before he got hurt, right? It was about to be his lead. Well, let's talk about another element going on with the Sixers. President Daryl Morey is taking some heat for some of his decisions, but he revealed that he consults AI, and not Allen Iverson, artificial intelligence to aid in some of his decision making. In a recent interview with Pablo Torre, Morrie said, we absolutely use AI models as a vote in any decision.
Starting point is 00:27:33 So are you guys cool with Daryl Morrie using AI as one of the factors to make personnel decisions with the Sixers? Really think about it. Isn't that wrong? Personnel like as in players or people that work for them? I think player decisions, moves the team makes. Damn. This is the world we're in?
Starting point is 00:27:57 It makes sense. I remember, you can see it. The logic is undeniable, you can see it in what's going on. You can see it, but, yeah, that's a crazy world we live in now. So he drafts off of AI, huh? I don't think a complete usage of AI, but, yeah, in terms of making any decision with the organization, they consult AI models, try to use technology,
Starting point is 00:28:24 get all technological, if you will. So, I just want to just ask, when... Did you talk to the AI when PG got hurt at the beginning and then you wasn't playing Embiid in preseason? Did you actually talk to the AI and say, should I shut their asses down today? And didn't just say, fuck the season. Because if AI was smart,
Starting point is 00:28:50 he would have told you, shut them down right now, bad year. Just let it go. But obviously your AI did not tell you that because you kept playing and playing and playing and playing, fucking up. Everybody got fucked up. They got fucked up more than I would.
Starting point is 00:29:04 You got to get a whole robot leg to play next year. Your AI didn't prevent you from that. When I clearly said, as a human being, you can look and say, you know what? If this is the problem you have today, you might as well shut them down and just get ready for next season. A robot leg?
Starting point is 00:29:20 They said MB got to cut off half his hip. That's the type of shit he want, though. Cut off half his hip, give him the robot joint, right? That's Nick. I am robot. Come on, dog. You're like, fuck it.
Starting point is 00:29:31 I robot. I am legend. Two great films. Preseason. Preseason started. I told you, hey, man, shut them two down, man. Let it go. Do you feel like the real AI would have told him the same thing?
Starting point is 00:29:42 A real human would have said that. No, the real AI. Because I'm pretty sure he wasn't asking a I the right questions Robot leg I use a I to trust me. I wrap it all the way around I go I go in and out of it and in and out. Yeah, so you should have used chat DMP You gonna be one of them is that? No, it's no it's it's good. It's look listen. Isn't AI the same as like data analytics?
Starting point is 00:30:09 Yeah, analytics, data. I think I would put that all. Is it the same? I could plug it into the program. Same guy. Same name. Just referencing them. Different, right?
Starting point is 00:30:17 AI, stats. Same. Yeah. So don't use stats? No, you use stats. Because you said stats are facts. It's a baseline. You're talking about a human being if you're going to bring him on your team or not bring
Starting point is 00:30:27 him on your team. Yeah, the stats. The stats are going to determine that. That's what they've been doing. No, it'll tell you. Like, playing energy, it'll tell you all of that. Like, injury prone, it should give you all of that energy. Right?
Starting point is 00:30:38 So you should have a baseline, give you a percentage on should you take a risk for this guy because of what all the data says. And then you have to still make a decision on, like, does he have heart? What is his, like, because the AI can't tell you that. Can't tell you if he's a good locker room guy, his emotions, his go-match, right? I can't tell you if a motherfucker, you'll start playing, eat 22 hamburgers before game,
Starting point is 00:31:03 but don't do that. You know what I mean? You got You gotta you motherfucking eyes for that shit So but do you think you got to find some balance? I mean look people have incorporated artificial intelligence all facets of their life now find some balance I was giving that by use ways ways to give me direction sometimes, but I know the road better than way So I know I can't make that left there cuz it's gonna jam me up I can just whoop around and save three minutes on the trip. I just can't wait
Starting point is 00:31:28 I'm making it like the AI work, you know, like the movies The work no artificial intelligence not Alan not Alan Iverson the one true AI He's almost that about stats. He's just talking about stats. The work. You use AI for the work. Yeah, I know I'm talking about like the movies when they start making like the robot ladies and shit. I just can't wait to that. They already have that about 2,500.
Starting point is 00:31:57 It was just Alexa. That's all it is, bro. But she knows it. But with a face, though. She ain't got a face. It's not real. She's just talking to a... She. It's not real. She's just talking to a phone. She be real in the moment. Yeah, I gotta see how he uses it. That's all. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:11 I mean, that's... I mean, it's a part of life now. It's great, but it's just a baseline. But my point is, it doesn't sound good now, because how the Sixers season has played out, if it had been the opposite and we'd been saying this. But can't he just talk to his players? Like what's wrong with talking to him? Can't you talk to him? They talk to everything but the actual people. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like how do I make y'all lives easy?
Starting point is 00:32:35 It's weird. This is crazy, bro. Are they scared to talk to the players? You can't go and ask them to be the PG, what I got to do. What I got to do. How about this? Do a board. This is simple. Hey, players,
Starting point is 00:32:55 look, I'm trying to make y'all lives better. Can y'all all write down something on a list that y'all need from us as the organization to improve y'all experience here? give me a whole bunch of negatives that i need to clean up and give me a whole bunch of things that you want right don't put your name on it so i can look at the list that's it but so now i can see okay they want uh these things in the locker room right okay this is what we do they don't want this anymore so y'all can function better as a
Starting point is 00:33:25 team right at the end of the day you still you still are the product that i need to perform very well which means i need to cater i really do need to cater to you mentally physically i i really do so if you say you need fucking two jacuzzis god damn it i gotta bring in two fucking jacuzzis but i just paid you millions of dollars. Yeah, I'm about to say, but the NBA has always provided. Then you're a bad businessman. Because I got to do extra shit after paying you? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:54 No, no, no. You ever bought a car before? No, but since... Do you do extra shit called insurance? Guys. But Gil. No, insurance. Insurance protects you from...
Starting point is 00:34:03 Being a bad driver. Yes. So I'm going to protect myself and my investment that I invested in you guys with protection. If you go out and you need a bodyguard, I'll get you your bodyguard. If you need a driver, I'll get you a driver. It's still my investment. I got six, seven hundred million dollars here. Embiid, if you don't want to buy a chef, don't want to spend my then fuck it I'm gonna do it yeah but don't you have to earn it no by winning right the fuck I need to know
Starting point is 00:34:31 but I'm paying you million dollars and you're not even showing me what you can do so I'm gonna cater to you already what did you eat as a rookie what does I eat as a rookie what did you eat as a rookie? What did I eat as a rookie? What did you eat as a rookie? Shit. I mean, fast food. No, not fast food. I was eating good. I came from Italy.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Come on now. I had some etiquette. So I paid you millions for you to do whatever you was going to do. You had a salary for it. Right? Bring your friends, eat whatever you want. I already paid you millions for you to do that. You don't know how to take care of yourself yet.
Starting point is 00:35:09 You don't know how to be a professional. The owner's been rich for a long time. Right, okay. These guys are just getting their money. They don't know what the fuck is going on. How long did it take you for you to decorate your whole house? Be honest. Shit, probably when I got my next deal. Your next deal? Yeah. So you
Starting point is 00:35:26 bought a house, didn't decorate the whole until you got it. We don't know that. We just go up to the biggest house. We got two rooms done. But those are the things that we don't know. We have the money, but we don't know how to. Okay, so shouldn't college
Starting point is 00:35:41 get you prepared? Bro, that sounds wild. But it's the truth. It's not. If he has rooms. No, no, I mean, no, no, no. Listen, I hear both sides, but I feel like, but I still feel like, bro, you got to earn it. You didn't have a furnace joint when you went to the league?
Starting point is 00:35:55 No, no, for sure. Yes, it was. What the fuck, bro? No, no, no. Yeah, I had it. 95% room. No, no, somebody came in. No, somebody came in and did it for me.
Starting point is 00:36:05 But it wasn't like how I, no, what he's saying, it wasn't like how I wanted it. But somebody, when I got to my place in Milwaukee, oh yeah, I had everything in there. But it wasn't how I wanted it. Yeah. Yeah, I know. I didn't get to do my shit, but it was done. It was fly. It was just shit.
Starting point is 00:36:19 It was shit shit for sure. TV's and the room. All that. Man, I got into my accountant, everybody like, look, you gotta go do this shit. For sure. Even your agent's gonna tell you to go get this shit. All that. I got it in my account. And everybody like, look, you got to go do this shit. Even your agent is going to tell you to go get this shit. For sure. Got that shit. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:36:30 I mean, my agent, Bill Duffy, did. For sure. You got a top agent for sure. Big ass mansion. Yeah. No, I had a townhouse. And when I got in there, all my furniture, everything, all I had to do was put my clothes down.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Ping pong table in the living room. Yeah, no. But I just felt like you're catering to them, and they're not even, like, I'm paying you a million dollars, and now I got to take care of you again. It's like, well, shit, I don't have to wait. I could just, you know, hey, fuck it. Like, you're not giving them a go or nothing.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Because like you said, with Joe Wizard's owner, right, he said, Gil, if you can come in here and change it, I'll give you whatever you want. You had to go in there and change it and make sure that Jordan didn't exist. And but you owner, right? He said, Gil, if you can come in here and change it, I'll give you whatever you want. You had to go in there and change it and make sure that Jordan didn't exist. But you did, right? But at that same time, you asked me to do something for you, right?
Starting point is 00:37:13 This is what you want to do. So I see the flaws in the organization. Hey, we should have a chef. But you're doing it, though. What I'm saying is, we haven't won yet, right? He asked me, do we have a, I said, we need a chef. He's like, why?
Starting point is 00:37:27 I said, none of us eat before practice. We just wake up and then come here. So we're going on fumes. And then when we leave here, we're going to McDonald's and stuff like that. Wouldn't it be better for you to have food for us? And then we need a player lounge. What do you need a player lounge for? Because, one, this room would be set up better than any of our houses right now.
Starting point is 00:37:47 So you put pool table, you know, this little area. We stay here longer. We don't want to just go back home to do nothing, go to an empty house. You stay here, there's video games, there's a TV, there's a movie thing, there's drinks, there's food right here. It makes us stay in the gym longer. And he thought about it, and he said, granted, what ended up happening
Starting point is 00:38:06 Motherfuckers are staying after practice longer hour to hour So I'm the motherfuckers is living there bringing the work in there everything But it kept them in the gym and then them being in a gym longer. They start shooting longer day They wasn't quick to leave. Yes, so you still have to in it's like you ask for that But you asked that when you had the leverage though, you didn't know that right away No. No, we have to start you you was hoping right? No, we want 20 something games I'm like I got hurt. Yeah, you know you was hoping after my first year. Yeah, no with the Wizards Yeah, my first year I got hurt that summer. That's what I asked for. Did they pay you already? Yeah, pay me to go to okay
Starting point is 00:38:42 So now you can come out. What? No, I'm just saying. A rookie is not going to come in. This is their first time not going to the playoffs. What I'm saying is. But you have a business, right? No, but what I'm saying is you have the leverage is what I'm saying. But what I'm saying. You still step onto the business side.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Okay. Tough crowd. Yeah. A great brand. Are you going to not protect your investment? Of course I am know it's your investment So you're gonna protect it. These are their investments This has nothing like if you're dumb enough to just let your money go out there and do it
Starting point is 00:39:14 Fuck it wants to do then that's you as a donor But the smart owners the winning owners protect their investment. That's the difference, right? Orlando, right? I don't want y'all to spend money on food. I don't know what the fuck y'all eating out here. So we're going to have breakfast. We're going to have lunch. We're going to have pregame. We're going to have dinner, right?
Starting point is 00:39:34 So he knows, right? He knows you are going to be eating right. I can take care of that, right? That's investment in your... Yeah, I mean, yeah. I mean, yeah. If I know you're a partier, I'm going to make sure to save the face of my franchise. I can't have my face out here getting drunk,
Starting point is 00:39:55 people taking pictures of him. So I'm going to personally spend my own money to have somebody watch you, protect you. The Lakers did that? Bodyguard. You're a bodyguard now. My bodyguard is bodyguarding you. The Lakers did that? Bodyguard. You're a bodyguard now. My bodyguard is bodyguarding you. The Lakers did that pool. Yeah, but...
Starting point is 00:40:08 What are we talking about? But what I'm saying, it don't matter. But everybody can't get that leverage, though, Gil. It ain't leverage. This is not leverage. I'm going to say,
Starting point is 00:40:15 you can't protect... Every player on your team ain't going to be able to get the same shit. Like Royce White. There's no way... Like Royce White. There's no way everybody...
Starting point is 00:40:24 Royce White couldn't get that treatment. And he was with Houston. He had anxiety. And they wouldn't give him special treatment. And it fucked him up. And he never recovered. Special treatment, what?
Starting point is 00:40:35 Drive? Drive to teams? Yeah. Drive to cities? Drive to cities. And he didn't want to fly. He didn't want anybody to drive to cities? They just wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:40:41 It became a conflict because he refused to fly. So, that's the thing. So, what do you do in that situation? You let him drive, right? You got to cater to him, right? No, I don't. I really don't.
Starting point is 00:40:56 So, why are you saying cater... Why are you saying cater to him now? If you're saying you don't have to cater to him? I said protect your investment. This is your investment. Roy's right.
Starting point is 00:41:04 You're saying, no, don't cater to the dude with anxiety. So I'm supposed to drive him? You're supposed to do whatever. You're supposed to spend and do whatever that you're saying that Brandon's arguing about right now. He's arguing. Listen, you're catering to the player. They gave him counseling? No, bro.
Starting point is 00:41:21 They did. And after that, there's nothing you can do. No, bro. If you go to council He made a big thing about it just the NBA refused to cater to him That's you know how stupid it sounds we go replay in Miami today, and then we got to go to goddamn, LA I'm supposed to have my player drive. Why do I have to hear but I? But I got to hire security for you to go out and fucking get drunk, nigga? You niggas don't make no sense to me.
Starting point is 00:41:50 We're talking about driving a dude from this state to this state because he has anxiety. That's a mental illness. The dude that you're talking about getting security for because he want to party has a fucking alcohol problem. No, why do you have an alcohol problem? He want to fucking go party and problem. No, why you have to have a party?
Starting point is 00:42:05 He want to fucking go party and drink. So why you got to have security? Why I got to use money for security? Yeah, shit happens. Yeah, but when my guy will flip out on the plane because he has anxiety, we need to drive him. That's the same type of investment. Why he can't drive?
Starting point is 00:42:21 Can someone Google, we played a day in Miami. We played a Mar and Ella. Can somebody tell me how long that fucking drive is? You will not make it for the game. Because I'm pretty sure he's not going to meet with them in time. Or a train. Or a train.
Starting point is 00:42:33 You won't feel no blood. You will not make it. No, no, no. That's fine. You won't feel no blood. Can you tell me how long that train ride is from Miami to LA? He might have to leave a couple days early.
Starting point is 00:42:40 A couple days. We played a day. We played a day. Back to back. Do I say say fuck this game and then just fly him over there because I need him in LA? Make it make sense. Do you cater to him? What do you do? No, no. You make it
Starting point is 00:42:51 make sense. You're saying you want to cater to these dudes. I'm just trying to understand how you make it make sense to cater to them. It's your investment, right? No, you just did all this yelling about your investment that you can't cater to now. How can you cater to somebody that don't fly? You just paid for this, dude.
Starting point is 00:43:07 You just drafted him. I'm trying to see, though. 39 hours. And now you're saying you don't want to cater to him. But how do you cater to that, though? You give him a purchase. You have to figure it out. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:43:15 No, no, no. With the money that you said to him. Hold on. With the money you said you was going to spend. You bought a flying car. Now you're going to do whatever you got to do. All right, so it's 30. So on a track. You just said line car. Now you're going to do whatever you got to do. All right, so it's 30. So on a trip.
Starting point is 00:43:25 You just said you have millions of dollars. Spend millions of dollars. Who? You spent millions of dollars, didn't you? Yeah. He said it, right? He said spend millions. Yes.
Starting point is 00:43:33 He just had the same energy for you. Now I got it for you now. No, you don't. I do. It's already over. So hold on. To drive. To drive.
Starting point is 00:43:38 It's already over. To drive from Miami to LA, 39 hours to drive. All right, so we play tonight. 39 hours. We play tonight at 7 o'clock, right? Do he play or not? Do you cater to him? Do he play or not?
Starting point is 00:43:50 I want you to tell me what you would do. He plays tonight at 7 in Miami. Are you going to play him tonight? We have a game tomorrow. He has to drive 39 hours. Yeah, we're going to play him tonight. So you're going to play him tonight? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:04 All right. If he gets there. Gets where? To the game. So if he gets there, you're going to play him tonight. So you're going to play him tonight? Yeah. All right. Now... If he gets there. Gets where? To the game. So if he gets to the... You're in Miami, so he plays the game in Miami.
Starting point is 00:44:11 So that means you're not going to have him for the next game, right? Because it's 39 hours, but y'all play in 24. So what are you going to do? Because you can't fly him. Got to figure it out. I'm asking you to figure it out. Tell me. Figure it out.
Starting point is 00:44:22 I wasn't in the position to figure it out. I know. I'm telling you, since you want to say all this, answer the question. 39 out. I just gave you the answer. Do the math. I don't know the answer. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Exactly. Is that it? Can't argue if you don't know it. Okay. So go back to the situation we were talking about with you. Thank you. Trying to cater to the players. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:39 All your investments. All your investments. No, every player. Oh, if you're going to do this, go get a security guard. You need to spend extra money on your players. On his top player. You're an owner. I'm just trying to figure out, are we investing in every player the same way?
Starting point is 00:44:53 So how does that not play into the same? Or is it just for like. It's your investment. Yeah. I don't know. My top player for sure. But what I'm saying is your investment. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:04 So you can only invest what you're trying to get out of it What like Clippers investment in the 80s and 90s they didn't invest nothing what did it look like why yeah? It looked like nothing, right? Lakers invested in their team Chicago when Jordan was there, they invested. Private plane, Detroit. Private planes, championships. They invested. It's who you are as a businessman.
Starting point is 00:45:34 I'm telling you as a businessman, I know I have a whole bunch of young players coming in. I'm going to protect my investment. I got $400 million going on. I'm not going to spend another two to make sure they're mentally stable and ready to play I'm just gonna let them just be wild. That sounds ridiculous What happened with Dennis Rodman walk? But what if they say they don't want that because they you know, they see how everybody else is living
Starting point is 00:45:59 Like what I mean because the league has things where yo they have they have, they, when you come to the league, the NBA teams, they have everything you need, right? They have people that can help you, you know, get to where you got to get to. So what if players come in and be like, no, I don't want that. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't want to live where you, I don't want you to, I want to do my own thing because my other peers are doing it.
Starting point is 00:46:19 My other peers? Yeah, like they live in, like they're, like, how are you trying to invest in them? I don't need all that. I don't need your help. I want to do my own thing. What you mean? So then what?
Starting point is 00:46:28 Because that's your investment, right? Yeah. But what if they don't want to take your help? They're going to take it. But you don't need to ask for it. But if I don't want to, I'm grown. Like I don't need you to do it. But you can't help somebody if they don't know if you need help or not, though.
Starting point is 00:46:43 So you're going to tell the GM, I don't need your help. You don't need my help putting you in a place where you ain't got to pay rent? You got a mansion to yourself that's already paid for and decorated. Maybe I want to, I mean, I don't know. I'm just saying. You got players that want to. Okay, I'm just saying. I'm just saying, if I was your junior manager and there was already a four or five bedroom mansion for you,
Starting point is 00:47:03 you have your own driver, your own chef, you got your own laundry. All you have to do is worry about basketball. You wouldn't have to have a better rookie year, mentally? For sure. Okay. For sure. That's all.
Starting point is 00:47:16 And this doesn't count out of my paycheck? Nothing out of your paycheck. So this is just you just doing all these? This is just me as an owner. I got houses for the rookies that come in. As a sophomore or your third year, or whatever you can move on to your own But I'm sure you like a real professional. Yeah, so I invested my so until you become a professional Like don't they give you a spot and everything you know crib what I'm just saying
Starting point is 00:47:39 I don't yeah, I'm just looking at how rookies live and what do they know? Hmm, they don't know nothing. So there has to be something implemented. It costs you nothing. You're already spending hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars. You're talking about spending another two? Two to protect 400 million? Come on.
Starting point is 00:48:00 A couple bodyguards here that like... You are the elite of the elite. Right, right. Right? It's like taking a girl from, you know, Denny's to Noble. She don't know how to fucking act yet. You said Denny's to Noble. Here you go to Denny's to Noble.
Starting point is 00:48:14 She don't know how to act. Right? I thought you said Denny's to Noble. We've all been there. She might have been like, hey, hey, hey, oh, it's, uh, uh, wait. You'd be like, relax. No, I thought you said Denny's to Noble. So, all right, so back to, so what would you do with Royce Wright
Starting point is 00:48:26 if that was your investment and you drafted him? I don't know, that's tough. What can you do besides get him a therapist, try to talk to him? What can you do? But this is your investment. You have to give him, like, a no-no back-to-back? You're talking about, you're talking about, like...
Starting point is 00:48:39 Somebody drafted him. No, no, what I'm saying is you're talking about, like, flying four days out of five nights. So you're basically saying that you can literally comfortably only play what, 20, 30 games a year for him? Yeah, just give him some love.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Because all the traveling, you got to go from city to city, you're going to be driving six, seven, ten hours from game to game. That's a hard one. Guess what? They knew it before they drafted him. I think it's going to be like that probably. Yeah, they knew it before they drafted him.
Starting point is 00:49:10 They knew he was... But didn't he fly a couple times in college? Yeah. Yeah. That's why they drafted him. That's why he developed it, because he couldn't do it. Yeah, because they only fly once a week maybe he couldn't tolerate it
Starting point is 00:49:26 that's why it was a demand in the draft and why he was surprised to go so low because he was expected to go high pick and that was the reason why he didn't because of the anxiety took medication alright well let's keep this thing moving shout out to Zip Recruiter
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Starting point is 00:50:33 nearly beat his squad at home Friday night and offered these thoughts after the game. All right. Oh, you have to. I mean, Washington's coming in here tomorrow night, so... This isn't a beauty pageant. You know what I mean? We don't get rated on our wins. It's a win.
Starting point is 00:51:03 Bought up the piece of paper. I appear he was aiming at a target and bricked by his reaction. But nonetheless, Nuggets followed up a close call against the Lakers. Looks like the game. So Nuggets followed up that close call against the Lakers with an unwanted invitation to a pool party in their next game.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Let's take a look. Game tied at 123.5 seconds remaining in Jordan Poole. There he goes. There it is. My corner. Your corner inward. As they say, Poole party. Look, he's still celebrating. To give the Wizards a win.
Starting point is 00:51:32 They said the Nuggets needed a flotation device. We're not going to, you know, that's not one of my favorite celebrations, but I'll give them love. So the Wizards swept the season series over the Nuggets with two of their 15 wins coming against Denver. The Wizards swept them? Beat them both times this season. Damn.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Two of their 15 wins. The Wizards' 15 wins over the Nuggets. It's a pull-up. Very nice shot. There it is. It's who did the deal. So after winning the chip 2023, Nuggets decided to run it back with their core in 2024,
Starting point is 00:52:06 losing to the Wolves in the Western Semis in seven games. They lost KCP to the Magic this offseason and have struggled to replicate the success of the 2023 season with their core crew of Jokic, Jamal Murray, MPJ, and Aaron Gordon. But they did pick up an impressive win over the Warriors last night without Nikola Jokic, Jamal Murray, and Christian Brown in the lineup as Russell Westbrook led the way with a triple-double. So looking at the Nuggets, they have the third-best-rated offense in the league,
Starting point is 00:52:32 but their defense currently 20th as they hold down the third spot in the West right now. I believe they're tied with the Rockets for the second spot, but tiebreaker, they would be third. But just looking at this Nuggets crew, we talked about what George Paul said last summer. They need to give Yolokic more help and support. We talked about MPJ before the season said that this team doesn't perform to expectations. This could very well be the end of this crew. Something will have to happen.
Starting point is 00:52:53 But is this the last dance for this Nuggets squad? Did Scar have like 33 on Joker through that game? Alex Sar? Yeah, Sar. Scar, whatever. Can I get a shot? Scar. He did.
Starting point is 00:53:09 He had 37 on Joker. He was boned. How did you get Scar? How did you get Scar, though? Chad Hologram, Scar. Scar? Yeah, motherfucker be watching. 34, 6, and 5.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Mufasa was cold. Watch your words. Mufasa was cold. 34, 6, and 5 against the Nuggets. Alex Saar. How much? 34? 34, 6-5 against the Nuggets. Alex R. How much? 34? 34-6-5 in 32 minutes.
Starting point is 00:53:29 It said, this your king? Another movie. I'm talking to him, motherfucker. I'm just saying this is a different movie. See what I'm talking about? No, I'm just saying. We're supposed to be Shay-Sai right here. We are.
Starting point is 00:53:41 I'm just saying you just said another movie. See, that's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. You got to use the Lion King. It's Lion King Scar. You're supposed to use that. Only thing I got to do is just poke you just said another movie. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. You gotta use the Lion King. It's Lion King scar you're supposed to use. Only thing I gotta do is just poke you in the middle. And Black Panther. I'm just gonna do something to you.
Starting point is 00:53:50 You can't disrespect me like this. I like the mashup. That's the next movie, motherfucker. Both take place in Africa. It does. I got your back, squad. But looking at this Nugget Squad, I'm gonna feel like they're feared like they once were.
Starting point is 00:54:06 You feel like this is the last dance for this team, and if so, who's gonna be the Iron Man now? Thank you. Uh... You can't blame Russ like normally people do. You can't blame Russ. Russ used to be the scapegoat. Russ cheap. But can't blame Russ. Russ used to be the scapegoat. Russ cheap.
Starting point is 00:54:27 But they all got value. Like, Gordon had 30-something last night against the Warriors. He was almost an all-star before he got there. People just, they lose value because Jokers, they make Joker feel like he's up here and he's playing with nobodies and he's just doing all this spectacular stuff,
Starting point is 00:54:50 but all them players could play. You got Russ Murray, Murray average 20 something. Gordon right there, 18, big man. He was supposed to be really a part of this Orlando team. Now he would've been a big presence on that team, but, and the other kid, the shooter, really a part of this Orlando team now. He would have been a big presence on that team. And the other kid, the shooter, the tall shooter,
Starting point is 00:55:09 6'10", shooter. You mentioned Joker never played with another all-star. Gil, it's a point you made on Instagram recently. Somebody said, Jamal Murray, all-star caliber. And that's the caliber, but has not been an all-star. So everybody's all-star caliber. Everybody's all-star caliber. has not been an all-star right like so everybody's all-star everybody's all-star like an all-star are you all
Starting point is 00:55:29 star or not so obviously his team has success 2023 had a shingle hold on me but he is better than some of the people that he is but at the end of the day the point still remains that Joker hasn't played with another All-Star doing what he's doing. Was it his team first? Murray's? And the bubble was Murray's team. Then he got hurt, right? Yeah, it was bubble. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Bubble Murray? Yeah, he was number one option. Bubble Murray went crazy. The hardest playoffs in the NBA? Jokic was still defining what he was. Then he got hurt, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah, okay. Nuggets stuck with him. He was very patient.
Starting point is 00:56:07 I mean, they definitely got pieces they can move, though. Man. But in terms of Joker's longevity, you got, obviously, a perennial MVP candidate. Squad wanted Chip for them to stay at that level. Other teams have gotten better in the West, obviously. How old is he? I think 30, I. How old is he? I think 30.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Cool. Jokic. Well, you're going to say trade him? I mean, no, not trade him. I mean, it's just what can Denver do for him at this point? Sometimes people just outgrow where they're at. That's fair. It ain't him.
Starting point is 00:56:44 It's not like if he goes somewhere, his number's going to go down. That's fair. It ain't him. It ain't like he ain't... It's not like if he goes somewhere his numbers gonna go down, he gonna keep doing what he do. It's just what can they build around him? Like if you're not gonna be able to get it done in these next two years. The best big man in the league. You know, you got Luca over there in LA. You know, you got Tatum and them in Boston.
Starting point is 00:57:09 I think, personally, I think it's up to his teammates, Joker's teammates, to decide whether they want to actually stay and make it worthwhile. Joker's not the type of guy that needs another place like Denver. Denver's like home. It might be a little bit colder, but it's isolated. You ain't got to worry about nothing else, right? Everybody else, the other players might just be tired of that shit. Jamal and MPJ, they're like, man, I've been here too long. This ain't the type of city to be here 10, 20 years, 15 years.
Starting point is 00:57:40 To have a chance to win with it. Right, but if they keep that team together, you're looking at who can you move for those pieces, those assets, that value. That's in the league that will help him do something different than what they're doing right now. They just need a bench. What other player other than MPJ you're going to bring in to trade that's going to give you what he give you at that size?
Starting point is 00:58:00 Then you look at Jamal. Who you going to trade that's going to be willing to get off their asset for that? Is this hurting their careers though? If if they don't want to be there Is it because it's so much like spotlight on Joker that is your more Murray consider a Hall of Famer? No, well, yeah, you gotta ask Tony Parker. Yeah, you gotta ask That's what I'm saying. Like but he don't get the same respect as Tony Tony I mean, all NBA. Tony never voiced the fact that he wanted that recognition.
Starting point is 00:58:29 You play in a system where everybody gets credit for winning. So even though Timmy was the guy, you got Ginobili, you got Tony, you got certain guys that got recognized because of that. So it's the same type of situation. Did Ginobili make all-star game? You can move Eric Gordon. See what it's the same type of situation. Did you know we make All-Star game? You can move Aaron Gordon. See what I mean? Who else? Porter.
Starting point is 00:58:50 Aaron. I mean, so you move Aaron Gordon, who you get that's gonna do what Aaron does? Yeah, that's tough. I mean, you can move two people with him. To get who though? It's hard to find them bigs. You need a bam, you got to get a bam for them, too. I mean, who? You got a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:59:09 A lot of people want to come play with your kids. They just need, like, a Jordan Poole. What's your talent swap with your experience? KD out there. For Aaron Gordon? And somebody else. They relying on him. But when you say that playing with Joker helps those guys?
Starting point is 00:59:25 I mean, obviously you got a guy who's a willing passer, don't make it about him, could average 35 if he felt inclined to do so. If you're MPJ, you go somewhere else, you're going to show all your weaknesses. It's going to be maximized. Right now you hiding a lot of things that you don't even need to show people. Come off, shoot, and do your thing. You don't got to show nobody whether you can carry your team or none of that. My point is if you're the Nuggets, you're not going this way, right? They are. They're going up. I mean, they're not going down. They're not
Starting point is 00:59:56 going down. They're right here though. Because they can always take this and take it home. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They can stay here and be like, yeah, we get past these dudes, we can take it there. I think that's why they're keeping that team together. Yeah, but you come from a trip of 2023, you don't build on that. You don't even get back to the finals next season. Obviously, you don't even get back to the Western Conference finals. But did the West get stronger? But other teams are getting stronger.
Starting point is 01:00:17 Okay, so now, do we make changes or do we adjust to the strength? Do we adjust to what we're seeing? I think if them staying at 5'6", 4'5", 6", is saying that even though y'all made these changes, it still don't change the fact that we can still compete here. I mean, you can compete, but we're trying to win the championship. Exactly. So that's the point. How far can we go with what we got?
Starting point is 01:00:38 Yeah, it's competing good enough, I guess, is the question, right? Yeah. So I had a chance, I think, to beat what Topsy in the West last year. Kind of came down to the last game or two. At this point, Thunder, 13-game lead. Been over. I think it's cooked. Fuck.
Starting point is 01:00:53 That's crazy. Did anybody else become an All-Star on that team besides Joker? Like ever? Like... They having a season, a whole full season? Unless they number one and... But they been number one. They was like tied number one and that's what they've been number one They was like tied number one last year and nobody else made it. Yeah, I mean his numbers are ridiculous like
Starting point is 01:01:12 I've got to pick up what you think you like Mobley making it with averaging with 18. Yeah 18 and endo 18 another one he averaging what 21 the. I can't think of it. Garland? Yeah, Garland. Murray average 20, 21? Hmm. Yeah. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:01:35 The West guards is different. Yeah. You got two guards in the West averaging 30. Who? Who? Shea and... Luka. Luka. Luka. Oh, Luka, Luka.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Even like this year, Luka was hurt. They couldn't get in, Steve. Man, just use ChatGPT, man, and then ask them who you should trade, man. Just call. Do what Murray do, man, or what Maury. Do what Maury do.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Just hit that chat, GBT. See who the fuck that's a good fit for you. So Nuggets, obviously, close call against the Lakers. C-Squad and Austin Reeves. Lose to the Wizards. Second time this season. But the Nuggets, Monday night, primetime game against the Warriors. Snapped the Warriors' seven-game win streak,
Starting point is 01:02:26 despite being without their two best players, Denver's won nine straight, 12 out of 13 over Golden State overall. As it currently stands, the Nuggets and Warriors would face off if the playoffs began today. Nuggets at the third spot, Warriors at the sixth seed. Do the Nuggets have a mental edge over the Warriors with the playoffs looming? They've won what? Nine straight. Nine straight?
Starting point is 01:02:50 Yeah. Wait, they won nine straight over the Warriors? Denver Nuggets have won nine straight games over the Warriors. 12 of 13. Huh? When was the last time the Warriors beat them? I could look that up, Gil, but it's gonna be a while. Why didn't you ever talk about that?
Starting point is 01:03:04 Oh, no, because of LeBron. That's all. All year they got likes. Okay. It's 20 what? 2022. March of 2022. I remember when I was going to March of 2022.
Starting point is 01:03:14 Oh, they don't know. You don't talk about that. You do not talk about Steph, boy. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's only popular to talk about LeBron. Well, I didn't know that they had an email. Because when the Nuggets were doing that to The Laker I feel like we heard about that
Starting point is 01:03:31 Who's your daddy Burping babies and all that good stuff Nice trade on the Warriors. I mean you feel like you haven't okay? I mean this this this don't help shit that they sit fucking three starters and They still beat on you while you out there trying to win a game so Prime nationally televised game on ESPN this one. Why leader this don't make it any better We heard the the Warriors say that they were Championship level ball club now with Jimmy Butler. I didn't know they was going to
Starting point is 01:04:05 ask whoop like that. Might want to rethink that. Yeah. Might want to go ahead and rethink that and try to move up a little further and play Houston
Starting point is 01:04:14 or something. Shit, because they look like they're going to be A lot of people didn't know that. Nobody knows nothing about history, man.
Starting point is 01:04:21 Not when it comes to LeBron James. A lot of people didn't know that. But that's why you have to do it. They can when it comes to LeBron James. A lot of people didn't know that. They can tell you everything about LeBron James. They can't tell you shit about the rest of the league. That's crazy. That's because the Warriors ain't been going to the playoffs. They didn't go.
Starting point is 01:04:36 They didn't go. This is Devin Curry. They're the second most talked about team. No. It's Lakers, then Curry now. They didn't make it the last three years, though. It's Lakers then Curry now. They didn't make it the last three years though. It's Lakers then Curry now.
Starting point is 01:04:48 A lot of people argue this is Steph Curry's era as well. You have to think about what I'm saying. It's the Lakers then it's Curry now. So that means
Starting point is 01:04:56 we should have known both was getting their ass spanked by that man. Nah. If I'm going to go to state I'm going to try to get that second spot.
Starting point is 01:05:05 We did not know that. Try to lose. This was information that was live before. Yeah, I'm playing against Houston. Yeah, I'm trying to... Houston, Memphis, where y'all at? I'm looking at it right now. I'm looking at it.
Starting point is 01:05:15 They... They had mind control over it. Me and Rich. Smokey and Rich. He be like, shut the fuck up. I be quiet. I be quiet. I be quiet.
Starting point is 01:05:23 I be quiet. I be quiet. I be quiet. I be quiet. I be quiet. I be quiet. They had mind control over me and red. Smokey and red. He be like, shut the fuck up. I be quiet. We'll see you in the playoffs. We be talking again. Yeah, all right. Yeah, I guess what Lakers is red.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Yeah. Golden State is smokey. Got about $200. You want some of that shit, too? Oh, man. No. I got about $200. He said it's like both ours.
Starting point is 01:05:52 It's like both ours now. Keep that in mind. It's like both ours. It's like both of ours. Shout out to Beach Cruiser. No, I mean, but serious note. Right now, they actually have to, like, really pay attention to what the team is built like
Starting point is 01:06:09 and think about what assets you've built that you can trade for assets for Jokic. Yeah. Right? Complimentary pieces. But, I mean, you feel like this squad is complimentary shot, like you're saying, like, we've seen what this squad is capable of doing.
Starting point is 01:06:24 But. You have Kemp. I mean, you have um you have brown you have watson right you have young pieces that look like they can go you might have to offset some of those to bring in some some some pure shooters that can keep the course because those two are just athletes now you got those two athletes with Russell Westbrook, who's an athlete, with Gordon, who's an athlete, with MPJ, who's an athlete. But MPJ is your only real outside threat. The other four are just mainly athletes.
Starting point is 01:06:56 That's not working with Jokic. He doesn't need four people trying to dive. He need four people sitting in a corner and one ducking in and diving. They need to make a call to New Orleans. Losing KCP hurt. KCP, Brown, what was it? Bruce Brown.
Starting point is 01:07:12 Bruce Brown. Bruce Brown, yeah, because they spread the floor. Yeah. And it's about that time like CJ turned into Reggie Jackson for them. You need floor spreaders, man. Yeah. You need some shooters. Look at CJ and Murray, the floor. If I'm them, Golden State, I'm going to ask Golden State for Buddy Hill.
Starting point is 01:07:34 Veneers, as he's known on our playback watch party chat. No. Nah. I think they're more effective with one shooter. I think Joker liked those passes to the backdoor cutters. I think he likes cutters. Yeah, but it's too many. You can't have three cutters.
Starting point is 01:07:50 I said he likes one shooter. So one shooter. There's Jamal, there's MPJ. Jamal's the mid guy. He's in the middle. He's not considered a shooter, but he can hit shots. Everybody else besides those two need to be cutters. The other two guys need to be cutters.
Starting point is 01:08:07 He has to have cutters. In this era. He need one knockdown shooter. Think about when KCP. Well, he had KCP and- Yeah, he had four shooters. Yeah, M.G. He had four shooters and one person had back down.
Starting point is 01:08:20 No, Bruce Brown was a cutter. Yeah, Murray, KCP, MJ. That's Brown and Brown. They were both. Now, the white boy Brown, he's just like Bruce Brown. No, no, no. Watson is just not a shooter. That's the KCP y'all talking about.
Starting point is 01:08:39 Watson's just not a shooter. That's what I'm saying. They need that KCP out there. And they had Reggie Jackson too. Because Yoka shoot three. Reggie shoot. Yeah, Reggie. Reggie helped that too.
Starting point is 01:08:49 Reggie helped that. So... No, and the other dude was a Morris. Trade Buddy Hill for Watson. Morris. Who was it? Morris? Monte Morris?
Starting point is 01:08:57 Monte Morris. He came off the bench and was giving them something too. They don't got... The Drew Holiday brother, right? Well, Holiday brother was there. Yeah, the brother. Holiday brother. Yeah. He was there. Yeah the brother holiday You better than holiday brother I played with just
Starting point is 01:09:11 We didn't ask you to Are you better than this brother? Are you better than this whole family? Is it all the brothers? Look at it. Mr. B one on three. I fight the holiday. I'll lock you up. No for sure. I love the holidays But of course I'm better than all the holidays. Brandon and five. It's true. Holiday in. Holiday in. Brandon and five.
Starting point is 01:09:36 Shout out to Championship P bringing his championship experience. Another question for you guys. Nugget's decision to sit Joker, Murray, and Christian Brown for a nationally televised game raised some eyebrows. We were watching that game on playback. I think we were really excited about doing the Nuggets-Warriors game. Really, really, really excited.
Starting point is 01:09:53 And then found out. That's a lie. We was not excited about doing that game. I was trying to get the play. Okay, I was going to say we was really excited about Luka. Let's just be honest. The Warriors also playing. We were going to double up.
Starting point is 01:10:04 But that was the game that we were billing. They put Joker on the graphic with Steph. We were like, ooh, ooh, ooh. But sat Joker, Jamal Murray, and Christian Brown. Nationally televised game on ESPN. Raised some eyebrows. It may have confirmed what Lakers fans have been saying about opposing players missing games in preparation
Starting point is 01:10:19 to play the Purple and Gold. Nuggets face the Lakers on Wednesday. Wait. They set their players to get ready for the Lakers? That's what Lakers fans have been saying for a long time. If you go and look at just the history, a lot of guys will sit the game before playing the Lakers to prepare for them, or they might miss an extended stretch of games,
Starting point is 01:10:39 come back to play the Lakers and miss games after that. Just telling you what. Is LeBron about to play or something? No, LeBron is still... I like how JJ been doing it though. So they said everybody for this Lakers? Any issue with Joker and Jamal Murray missing the national televised game
Starting point is 01:10:56 against the Warriors to prepare for the Lakers? Are they at home? They're coming to Los Angeles. No, were they at home yesterday? They were in Golden State. Yeah. San Francisco, All-Star weekend. I mean, they about to come. What I'm saying is I don't like the idea,
Starting point is 01:11:12 if you're going to load manage, if you're going to sit your players, you sit them on your dollar. Don't sit them on mine. Right? The San Francisco Arena was buying tickets for Jokic. Right, so y'all got home games, you got 41 of them shits. Sit that motherfucker on there.
Starting point is 01:11:34 No, I got you two times a year. I expect him to play two times a year because when Steph comes to town, he's gonna play two times a year. So your people can see him. And that's the only thing I don't like about low managing. Like, if you're going to low manage, do this shit at home. There's 41 home games.
Starting point is 01:11:49 You sold season tickets at the beginning for this. I got people who's coming for Jokic, and you're sitting your guy. That's not fair. Time to win. That's not fair for my fan base. Well, it's not an issue that he's even load managing? They did come in to San Francisco and bust a warrior's ass. I'm just pointing it out.
Starting point is 01:12:11 I don't. But everybody else load manages the problem, ain't it? No, I mean, I get the business part of it. You're trying to protect and do the longevity. Y'all didn't get the memo. They all had groin injuries. Yeah. Oh.
Starting point is 01:12:28 Yeah, Joker. Yeah, they all had groin injuries. LeBron, as we know, has a groin strain that he suffered against the Celtics. LeBron, Raymond, Jameson. Oh, I'm talking about these demo. OK, are you saying that it's a groin? Yeah, they was out.
Starting point is 01:12:39 There wasn't no load management. It was groin injuries. It was groiny? Yeah. Why y'all tripping, man? Say, call it what it is, man. Whatever they want to use, it don't matter. Just do that shit.
Starting point is 01:12:47 Because if you play today, just do that shit on your team. Because I'm sorry, you know what I mean? Whatever it is, just do that shit. Big toe, back spasm, whatever you want to use, do this shit on your dollar. Don't do it on the road team's dollar. Just do that shit. Okay, okay, whatever it is, just do that shit. Just do that shit.
Starting point is 01:12:55 Okay, okay, whatever it is, just do that shit. Just do that shit. Just do that shit. Just do that shit. Just do that shit. Just do that shit. Just do that shit. Just do that shit.
Starting point is 01:13:03 Just do that shit. Just do that shit. Just do that shit. Just do that shit the road team's dollar. Just do that shit. Okay, okay, what it is. Just do that shit. Because, I mean, if your groins are better for the motherfucking Lakers. Yeah. If your groin is strengthened enough. But no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:13:19 The Caucasian Lakers. Better work out there. I don't know, man. I'm just saying, man. Do that shit on your tour. The non-LeBron Caucasian Lakers. Don't y'all got a lot of the home games coming up whoo Lakers Everywhere we go. Yeah, like more straight. I'm brother. We at home. Yeah, I got like four straight Yeah, four straight man. We damn you got 80 some games at home
Starting point is 01:13:43 It was a Madison Square Garden home game. After low management. All I see is purple and gold. Only time we ain't got purple is down there in goddamn Boston. Right? I don't know. I don't know. Leave me alone.
Starting point is 01:13:56 Yeah, leave me alone. Stop starting shit. I know. You're right. Lastly, let's just take a look. Here's what happened at the end of the game last night. We're just gonna run this clip. Wanna get your guys' opinion on it.
Starting point is 01:14:09 So, Nuggets were up 10 about 20 seconds to go. Hell yeah. And Watson, you know, go ahead and get him a bucket. But both teams just appeared to just give up. That is Steph Curry. That's Jimmy Butler. Yeah, what's up? Yeah. Shot? All right. Let's see what we got. Moses, moody, mighty, moody, moody.
Starting point is 01:14:23 Yeah. Took the shot, got his own rebound. Yeah. You see the winners don't give a fuck. Moody, moody, moody moody. I got his own rebound See the winners don't give a fuck moody moody moody body. I hope he shoot it We had that spread hot. Yeah, no issue with that Just the lack of effort energy You keep playing to the to the game is over two zeros. Yeah, did you see right? The team that's winning don't give a fuck, right? Mm-hmm. It's always the loser who actually is offended about sportsmanship.
Starting point is 01:14:55 But they don't consider this. You shot the ball. You came down on offense and tried to get to your bag before I got the ball. That's fine. But if I try to score it's a problem if You want sportsmen like it should start with you give up give up give the fuck up Hold the ball right there. Let the time that now I know but if you're gonna sit here and try to go on me Don't don't push me because I try to score on you. You just tried to get two fucking points. That's the most irritating shit ever.
Starting point is 01:15:28 Wait, wait. You motherfuckers go on offense four or five times trying to get the lead back. And then I get the ball scored too fast for you. Now you want to get mad? Now you want to be all rowdy and pouty? Get the fuck out of here, man. Y'all goofy for that.
Starting point is 01:15:44 Damn. Wait, wait, wait. Like,. Y'all goofy for that. Damn. Wait, wait, wait. Like, I can say, there's 46 seconds left. We down 10, and I just hold the ball and let the time run out. And then I give it to you. If you try to score,
Starting point is 01:15:55 that's offensive. But if I sit here and try to bop you and score two points, and then you come down here and try to score, then I get mad to push you. Hey, man, it's strange for this shit to score, then I get mad to push you. Hey, man, stranger shit than happening.
Starting point is 01:16:07 Nah, that is weak, though. Weak nigga shit, man. T-Mac scored in, what, 30 seconds? Weak nigga shit, man. I like that, bro. If I'm him, I'm going to keep playing. I got my rebound. I got my missed shot.
Starting point is 01:16:17 You see that? That's a tough situation. They didn't give two shits. He took two shots. Nobody even flinched at that man. That's tough. That's a tough situation. You don't think so?
Starting point is 01:16:25 Yeah. Yeah. The winner don't care, man. The winner don't care, but still, you like, ah. But listen, if I'm Denver, I would've got the ball out, and I would've tried to go down the score. Don't shoot me here. The home player, star player, shoot that motherfucker so you confused like, shit, what the fuck to do? That's tough.
Starting point is 01:16:38 Look at it like this. You try to score on me, I should be able to try to score on you. But if he missed, though, like, you should feel like you won right there. You shouldn't have to feel like you have to go back. If I'm down, if I'm up 10, and you see a nigga trying so hard to make a shot and he missed,
Starting point is 01:16:53 that's just no good over that. So you're going to go back after that? If I try to score, why you mad? But you won if you got to stop. But you just tried to score. But you stopped him. Cool, but you just tried to score. You tried to embarrass me. But you stopped him. Cool, but you just tried to score. Don't do it.
Starting point is 01:17:08 It's over now. It ain't. It ain't over. No, it's been over. It ain't over. Don't then talk sportsmanship. He can't go back because I got the ball now. No, no.
Starting point is 01:17:16 What you mean? You're saying I got the ball. Like, he scored. Da-da-da-da. Right. I got it. Now I got it. No, and I'm about to go back at you.
Starting point is 01:17:22 Now, fuck all that. I don't think this is. It ain't over. No, it ain't over. It was over before you shot the ball. No, it ain't over. No, it ain't over. It was over before you shot the ball. No, it ain't over. Now it's over over. Now it's over over.
Starting point is 01:17:30 It was over over when you shot it. Now you don't get a chance to shoot it, Oboe. No, yes, I do. You don't get the ball. Yes, you do. Yes, you do. I'm going to come down, boom, boom, boom, hit. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:17:39 I got it. Who think this is? I got it now. I just don't, I just don't think I got it now. Now what? Time's going to go, we're going to let the time go. No, watch out. I'm about to be petty, too. You want to be petty? I'm petty now. Come get this is. I got it now. I just don't, I just don't, I got it now. Now what? Time's gonna go, we're gonna let the time go. Nah, nah, watch out. I'm about to be petty too. You wanna be petty? I'm petty now. Come get this work. So y'all
Starting point is 01:17:49 saying to tell the people to give up, no matter, you see this Dale, hey, if you keep playing to the end, I'm gonna keep playing. Here's the issue. It's across, it's only in basketball. This only happens in basketball. For some odd reason, when a team gets up on you,
Starting point is 01:18:07 they want the winners to now play babysit basketball. AAU, they don't want you to press no more. They want you to allow their team to run their offense, and then you're supposed to stall while they're playing hard. In the NBA, they want you to sub out. You're up 20. They want you to sub out. You're up 20. They want you to sub out your starters while their starters is still in the game.
Starting point is 01:18:30 Then when they come back, now you got to put your starters back in, and then if this team wins, now it's, oh, my God, look at the miracle. It ain't no fucking miracle. You are forcing me to sub my players out so these sorry motherfuckers who have been beating up all day can come back and
Starting point is 01:18:46 Have a chance of winning. Yeah. Yeah, if you want me to sub my starters out you sub yours out Mm-hmm As long as your starters is in my starters is it we practice two hours a day Trying to whoop ass and then you're saying there's this rule of giving up we're taught play till the whistle ends but there's this unwritten rule that says when you're up a lot feel sorry for these professional bastards that can't take a ass whooping that they've been taking all fucking game or they want you to put the guys on the bench I thought when we sub our benches, boom, the score is 0-0.
Starting point is 01:19:28 Go out. If you up 20. If I'm up 20, I'm trying to be up 22. Yeah. I'm rolling. The fuck you talking about? That was the Kobe mentality. What was that Kobe, what he did with them girls?
Starting point is 01:19:40 76, beating your ass. Going to keep beating your ass. One of my favorite photos of all time. What kids are doing a rap beat? Them just keep stomping on you see y'all it's only you it's only It's only used when you want to use it so so you have 20 Quarter like I'm up say four minutes. Mm-hmm. Four minutes four minutes You don't want to come something yourself out It's not a starters in the game? Are you...
Starting point is 01:20:05 I'm subbing my... Usually, I'm going to sub my starters out. The fuck are you going to do? Keep yours in? No, bud. You're down 20. You're down 20. Are you going to sub your starters out as the losers?
Starting point is 01:20:16 Don't you know, as a coach, most coaches do that. No, they don't. Are you, though? Are you going to sub your starters out if you're down 20 with four men? Or are you going to be like, we have a chance? You know you ain't got no chance to come back. Yeah, I'm going to see what else I got. You need new energy.
Starting point is 01:20:30 But what I'm saying is... Make a sub. But what you're saying is those guys, if those guys come in the game and start playing the way you don't like, is it bad on the sub guys? No. I thought the unwritten rule is when we sub our starters out and we put our bench in, the score is 0-0. I didn't know my team that's up 20
Starting point is 01:20:54 that's trying to get more playing time can't shoot the ball. Because I'm judging these motherfuckers. It's called running the score up. No, because it was 0-0. No, it wasn't. It's just 0-0 in your mind and everybody else in mind we up 20 yeah we up 20 so it ain't zero zero when the subs in if the subs give up if yo
Starting point is 01:21:12 if yo subs bring the score down to 10 we gotta with two minutes left we gotta think differently but if we go up 10 with our bench guys in we're looking at our bench guys like don't try to run the score up we're already we up 30 now but if they happen to just because y'all playing competitively hold it wait if you scoring and we scoring and you score that happened that happened but if it's like on some purpose like yeah we trying to run the score up you know what that look like you know what run the score look what's up so i should approach every time y'all go to a basketball game? What's your approach when you're playing? You're trying to kill the opponent team, right?
Starting point is 01:21:49 No mercy, right? You want them to know that. But you know what we're talking about when we're talking about running up the score. Yeah, no, I got to play basketball. But is Joe Stardust still in the game? No, we already established that. Okay, so if both our benches is in, then it's free play. You go ahead. I don't care if we up happen. I have no opinion if my bitch is doing Then what does that say about your team if they what is it about Josie? I mean your team sorry
Starting point is 01:22:12 Oh, is this sorry so your team is sorry go get in the gym But then you're gonna complain if we put our starters back in I'm gonna keep my starters in that's what I'm saying Like if you keep your starters and I'm gonna keep my star, think about what you're trying to do. If you keep your starters in, I'm going to keep my starters in. Like, think about what you're trying to do, what we're saying here. Let's say we're up 30, right? Mm-hmm. And we, the six-minute timeout, right?
Starting point is 01:22:35 You take your five out. Obviously, we'd be looking. All right, bench, come in. We do the same. We match you. Bench, come in. I supposed to tell my team run the clock why your team is gonna go full motion with a minute left
Starting point is 01:22:51 but what I'm saying is he says your team was just talking about was the last 10 seconds but what I'm saying is your team we're talking about the last 10 this is like running up the score is just awesome boom boom boom we like come on bro losers are playing down Yeah, but you're down 30. But your team is still shooting. There's no reason for that. I'm trying to get mine, too. I don't play either. We get that.
Starting point is 01:23:14 But you're down 30. I know, but you coming down getting yours. Hold on, hold on. I don't get mine either. That backfires, too, though. But it don't matter because no one's looking. One team is told to come in and don't do nothing. The other team is just go out there and play hard. So you coming in, me and you are facing each other.
Starting point is 01:23:31 You come here with one minute left. You are allowed to go at me. No one judges you. But he didn't. I got to get the ball. I got to get the ball to run by offense now? We're just talking about what we're talking about. That's not good for the mental.
Starting point is 01:23:43 Let's talk about what we're talking about, though. That's not good for the mental. Moses Moody about what we're talking about, though. That's not good for the mental. Moses Moody looked crazy. Why? No, because he didn't look crazy. He didn't look crazy because he's not down 30. No, he didn't look crazy because he's down. Down 30.
Starting point is 01:23:53 If you're down 30, you look crazy because we got you down 30, and we look at you like, come on, man. And then you get the rebound. Come on, bro. Yeah. It's like you're trying to pass your stats or some shit Yeah, but if you're down 30 with two minutes left every time you shoot the ball the game is over But you're still shooting when you drag when you dragging the clock out right and that dude is trying to steal the ball from you
Starting point is 01:24:16 Are you not mad at him? Are you not mad at that dude? The guy the guy that's on you're down 10's five seconds. I'm trying to, no. But you're trying to. It's usually the guy who's up 10, the defense is trying to steal. It's usually the defense that's trying to steal play hard. Like that. The offense is sitting here doing this.
Starting point is 01:24:37 Trying to drain the clock out. Listen to what I'm saying. See, y'all are arguing on my side now. The guy who's up is wasting the time because he's not allowed to score. The defense is still allowed to play 100%.
Starting point is 01:24:50 So he can steal a ball and go score. But what are we doing, Gil? We're draining the clock out. The winners is draining the clock. Because why? The game is out of reach.
Starting point is 01:25:01 So there's no reason. So they're not playing defense. This is the NBA thing. That's what we're saying. He's dragging the clock out, bro. Why are you trying? No one talks about that person No one talks about the losers still playing hard because that's what he's supposed to do, right? That's what it's supposed to play till the clock is the winners No are supposed to hold the ball and do all this
Starting point is 01:25:25 dumb shit and all that stuff. We don't even practice that. The loser has never been pushed out of bounds or no shit like that. Game three against the Rockets. We was up 20. I was on a swaggy peeve mode. Steve Kerr took me out.
Starting point is 01:25:41 Are you not listening, nigga? The winner is supposed to not choose. I'm talking about the loser. Listen to what I'm saying. You're the winner. But the game was out of reach. You're supposed to, as the winner, hold the ball.
Starting point is 01:25:57 You're not supposed to play hard. The other team that's losing gets to go as hard as they want. That's what I'm saying. Wait, how is that fair? You mean fair? That's what I'm saying. Wait, how is that fair? You mean fair? That's what I'm saying. You're arguing my point. As a basketball player.
Starting point is 01:26:09 No. Because if we can run the clock down, we can run the clock down. You can play as hard as you want. You can play as hard from five, four minutes. And we ride it all the way down to the, we turn over. All right, y'all got it now. Now, you take your ball out, and you try to do your thing, and you miss,
Starting point is 01:26:27 and we get it again. We're looking at you like, hey, bro, let the fucking clock go out, bro. God damn. And you do that. You got 18 more points. And you do that again,
Starting point is 01:26:37 and I get the ball, and I go score again. So how does he look? Nothing. How does he look? Realistically. Realistically, how does he look? Mama. How does he look? Realistically. Realistically. How does he look?
Starting point is 01:26:46 Mama. Mama. And did some crazy shit. Realistically? One of my favorite things. He looked like he played to the end. No. He looked like he played to the end.
Starting point is 01:26:53 You know what? Shit. You could play hard. If you're up 20, you could play hard all the way up until about that 35, 40 seconds left. When you know the game's over. If you still try to go out and go offense, y'all... See, again, y'all, you're speaking what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:27:09 Don't talk about me. That's what I'm saying. On offense, you're not allowed to go hard when you're up. The defense can go hard all the way up. If you haven't paid attention, dog, everybody who's up, if they score, the losing team
Starting point is 01:27:26 gets mad. Yes. But the losing team always shot the ball before the winning team did it at the end. But if the losing team keeps trying to pack their stats, no one says nothing. It depends on how, too.
Starting point is 01:27:41 It's called a dagger. You know what a dagger is? You motherfuckers keep doing that, and then dagger. That should put them to sleep. That should be the nail in the coffin. It's like 15 seconds left. I thought off the backboard trying to duck the bitch. Yeah, I'm going to take you out. The winners don't do that.
Starting point is 01:27:56 Losers always do that. Right, nobody's doing that. You got to knock them out. We did that. Knock them out the box. Well, speaking of knocking out the box and nails in the coffin, let's keep this thing moving. This next topic has a lot to do with that.
Starting point is 01:28:06 So back when LeBron surpassed the 50,000 point mark, Gil said that media types like Skip Bayless haven't opened their eyes to what LeBron has been doing this whole time. Skip decided to respond to Gil and issue a challenge on his podcast. And I may mention, his podcast is also on YouTube like ours. While our podcast does very, very good numbers, his is a little struggle mode, so so might be bad to you, Gil. But let's take a look at the clip.
Starting point is 01:28:29 After LeBron passed 50,000 points, I posted a video applauding LeBron for his astonishing longevity. Gilbert responded on his show by saying, if I just opened my eyes, I would have seen LeBron's greatness from day one. I am here to tell you, I have never been anything but fair and honest in my assessment of LeBron James. From day one, he was the best passer in basketball. From the start, I said he was the greatest driver of the basketball I had ever seen.
Starting point is 01:29:03 Yet, from the very start start in late and close situations. LeBron almost always opted to pull up and attempt deep threes instead of just attacking the basket, what he did greater than anybody. He feared the late game free throw line. I'm not making this up, Gilbert. I do my homework. I actually watch the games. I actually love watching the games. I'm addicted. I know you got a lot going on. Maybe it just slipped your mind.
Starting point is 01:29:32 But whatever. I would still love to share the air with you. Go back and forth on all of the above. Let's do it. How about next week? Let me know, man. Let me know, man. Let me know, man. John Edward Bayless the second I was a nice looking like a member of Heaven's Gate you can google that people
Starting point is 01:29:52 for those who don't remember what looking like Skeletor you do you have the cosmic key yeah what is your response to Skip Bayless? He calls more than a 150. He's trying to cheat you. I'm sorry, Skip. I'm sorry, Skip. I think... I guess you don't know me. When I first heard you were actually wanting to debate,
Starting point is 01:30:21 I needed to know what you were going to debate about, right? And because I know who you are, I know you're debating style, I knew that was a trap. So, but I know you're impulsive, which means if I ignore you, you're going to do exactly what you did and give me your hand. Now, those 15 minutes that you put up there,
Starting point is 01:30:42 I've done dissected that shit for the last 17 to 18 hours. Uh-oh. You're good. Not slept, man. Uh-oh. Right? So I, one, yeah, I haven't slept.
Starting point is 01:30:54 One, you can't use a teleprompter against me. I can spot that shit from a mile away. That's one. Two is when you want to talk facts against someone like me, you use all the facts, not what you want to pinpoint. So when you want to pinpoint something to make a point, that is hard to do when we talk about all of basketball. I will respond soon, and I'm going to tell you,
Starting point is 01:31:24 it's not going to be pretty. I'm going to be gentle, but I'm going to tell you it's not going to be pretty. I'm going to be gentle, but it's going to be, yeah. You're in my world now. But you shouldn't have played your hand. Like, you should have tried to get me on the show or came on the show, and I don't know what you're going to talk about, so I'm not prepared. I researched everything from 1977. And I know you don't remember, like, print. We can't Google print now, but I found print.
Starting point is 01:31:56 And I noticed your style before 2004. Get him. And it don't sound the same as today. You proved my point at the beginning of the video when you said, what is there bad to say about LeBron James? I mean, Michael Jordan, he was perfect. Is that how he did it, Gil? That was the voice? Oh, I mean, how he looked for Michael Jordan, when he said Michael Jordan's name,
Starting point is 01:32:24 the joy he has is Exactly what I was saying You don't love the game you love a player hmm, that's the difference between me and you I Don't think you know I have Michael Jordan is number one But I love the game so much that you think I have LeBron James as the GOAT. No, I have Michael Jordan as the GOAT. My favorite player is Kobe. I just respect greatness across the board. So I don't sit there and depict someone's greatness
Starting point is 01:32:58 and just look for only flaws. I'll see you in about 40 to 72 hours, and it's not going to be pretty. You're going to have to do another video. 40 to 72 hours? Those 15 minutes that you put up there, sir, pointing out a game four and a game, and I said he was a great passer, and he made layups great. Not a great player. A great layup guy and a great passer.
Starting point is 01:33:29 That's the problem right there. You point to what you want to talk about. And you got a word. Yeah, where's the smoker? Oh, no, no, no, no, no. We don't need no smoker. No smoker? No smoker's good?
Starting point is 01:33:39 No, no, no. This is going to be a nice, gentle cut up. Nice, gentle? OK. I would have thought you were the champion the way you was talking. Oh, no. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:33:49 That was good. That was good, bro. I told you I didn't sleep. I got shit from 1977 when he was with the Los Angeles Lakers. I mean, I got interview on top of interview that he has done. He called you Gilbert. He called you Gilbert. He called you Gilbert. He called you Gilbert.
Starting point is 01:34:06 Yeah, he kind of sounded like you were 150. That R was very hard on Gilbert. You were 150. That R was very hard. You really hit hard on Gilbert. Good night, buddy. Bird. We're not going to bring him on the show?
Starting point is 01:34:17 We're going to dinner. After that dinner, I'm on that. We're not going to bring him on the show? He said he want a bunch of mayonnaise if he comes on. I don't know if we can. Man-nay. Hey, what's up with all these wearing black? He said he want a bunch of mayonnaise if he comes on. I don't know if we can. Man-nays? Hey, what's up with all these wearing black? Why all of them wear black?
Starting point is 01:34:28 Black turtleneck? Gil, serious question. Do you feel like Skip is baiting you right now? For sure. Baiting me? No, no. No, he was baiting me before. And what level of baiting would you say that was?
Starting point is 01:34:39 Was he a novice baiter? No. Mm, mm, mm, mm. I can't say, like, what I'm saying is, because I've actually studied him, I studied what made him great, what makes him great, right? I have to respect, like, how these guys got famous and what they put into this game.
Starting point is 01:34:59 Like, no negative, no positive. It's 20-something years. He's done built Stephen A. Smith. He's built Shannon. Like, he's built what his empire is. Takes dedication. It takes skill. So I wanted to know how he got great, right?
Starting point is 01:35:18 I wanted to know, like, he wakes up at 2 a.m. every morning, works out, does his what's-his-name. I know even when he gets to his job, he doesn't talk to the other cast members, so they don't talk. He don't want to talk to you before. He don't want y'all to, he don't want to do this with you, the feedback. He wants to just, everybody do their own study, and then we go out there and let's go to war to see who's the smarter. I know everything about him, which means this one was serious for me,
Starting point is 01:35:45 so I didn't need to sleep. Now he's in my world. And I'm pretty sure if he still wants to come on after, then good luck. Colleague or colonizer, I believe it is. You got to represent. What we are looking at. But that's why you don't talk to me before.
Starting point is 01:36:03 Brother, brother, I told you, man. I'm about to be. Jordan is his favorite person. I'm about to be Jordan in his third year. Jordan, 87, 88. I'm about to be Jordan's first three rings. I'm about to be Jordan next three. I'm going to be the Jordan you only talk about.
Starting point is 01:36:21 Yeah, I'm not going to be that Jordan. I'm not going to be the Jordan the first seven years or them wizard years, God damn it. I'm going to be the Jordan you only talk about six Yeah, I'm not going to be that Jordan. I'm not going to be the Jordan the first seven years or them wizard years, god damn it. I'm going to be the Jordan you only talk about six and oh. That's that Jordan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the only Jordan I'm going to be. What was it, 90 to 98? But you don't talk to us before the show either. I just want to point that out.
Starting point is 01:36:37 Where you think I got that from? See, Skip, I apply your shit here. But you don't talk to me after the show. You don't mingle. We don't mingle. We don't mingle. We don't share thoughts, God damn it. So I appreciate the challenge, and I'm going to take that one. Man, fuck Skip. Is he the reason why you don't talk to me before the show?
Starting point is 01:36:56 I was like, fuck Hector. That's why I'm like, fuck Hector. Nah, hell nah. The reason why you won't talk to me before the show. The reason why you don't talk to me, you're gonna talk to me, motherfucker? It's the reason why you've been coming down here at 11.30. I know, right? I've been texting niggas and shit, get ready to look at it.
Starting point is 01:37:11 Baby Skip. Little Skip. Grand Risings, baby. Little Skip. Little Skip. Little Skipper. Little Skipper. Little Skipper. We look forward to that response. All right, but let's keep this thing moving. No, no, no,'s keep this game away. No
Starting point is 01:37:31 Mr. B likes to say skip counter fucking dance days. This is a gazelle, baby. Yeah When stupid prizes news flash bucko Little skimpy. No, no, no, no, no, no. And I told you. Nah, this motherfucker came down. He came down. I thought you could stand up like a nigga. Remind me of myself, master. Ladies and gentlemen, Championship P bringing his championship experience into Gil's arena. If you enjoyed this show, download the Underdog app, use promo code GIL. Get up to $1,000 of bonus cash.
Starting point is 01:38:12 Don't spill again. Don't spill again. Hey, Nick, you remember what you was doing over there? With that pacifier in your mouth. With your daddy next to you. You remember what you was doing, right? You say a lot. You say a lot. You say a lot.
Starting point is 01:38:29 Yeah, you couldn't. You was distracted. You know what you did say, though? You was like, security. Security. Security. I thought you was going to come with that shit. But you distracted me.
Starting point is 01:38:40 You're blaming me? Yeah, you had your hand in his lap. I'm like, god damn, both of y'all got your hand in his lap. God damn, one of y'all put your hand up. Hands in the lap? God damn, there's a lot of shit be going on in here. But I'll be letting this shit go. I'm like, shit, let me put this mask on.
Starting point is 01:38:53 I act like I don't see shit. There's a lot of glazing going on. It's like I don't see shit. That's the security. I had to play that shit back. Like, damn, a lot of motherfuckers didn't show up this day. Shit, what the fuck y'all doing?
Starting point is 01:39:06 Well, ladies and gentlemen, that's our show for today. No, I'm just kidding. Let's keep this thing moving. Little Steve-O. That didn't go the way he thought it was going to go, did it? No, I'm Godzilla. Terry.
Starting point is 01:39:18 No, I'm sorry. Just there. Just there. I don't know if, hey, hey, I'm just telling you and your producer who helps you with your Your teleprompter you might want to tell him to go to No-chill Gil and look at how I dissected some of your old colleagues for trying to run down this this rabbit hole No teleprompters here at Gil's arena. I ain't seen Rob Parker since I mean he done lost every day He lost his do Rob Parker's radio show it for you come back
Starting point is 01:39:45 You better you come at me boy. You better have bullet poof Because I'm boy I'm firing Yeah Rob Park ain't been Rob Park ain't been a sense of that motherfucker said my name boy. Hey Chris Bouchard left that motherfucker Chris Bouchard hey man I'm about toouchard, hey, man, I'm about to go. I ain't going to let him fuck up my business. I'm about to go. I'm about to take my light-skinned ass over here and be professional.
Starting point is 01:40:16 You stay in Detroit, God damn it, and do the radio over there. Radio is like, who? Who you at? Hey, man, we can't even sponsor this show, though, boy. Oh, man. Yeah, man. We asked the chat, should Skip enter Gil's arena? We asked the chat if Skip should be allowed
Starting point is 01:40:29 to enter Gil's arena presented by underdog Woo Woo. 74% of the chat said Skip should be able to come on the show. Oh, yeah, no, no, no, no, no. When he come hit, oh, yeah, no, you know, no. That's free play. Yeah, yeah, I'm not gossiping. That's what? That's free play? Yeah, y'all, this is a nice little conversation. Like, no chill.
Starting point is 01:40:48 Oh, I'm going to dress him up. Don't let him use the good bathroom if he can. No chill. And it's called no chill, Gil. No chill, man. I done ruined a whole bunch of pages, man. I done ruined a whole bunch of YouTube pages. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:02 I'll fuck up your algorithm. Turn this way, boy. Put that on a T-shirt, well, I'm gonna be algorithm Put that on a Day you about to get gills arena That's all chill Gil come for you my man. Fuck up your house. They call me Godzilla down there Let's keep this thing moving. See what he did to my son. You see what I did to Nick's son, right?
Starting point is 01:41:30 You see what he did to my son. He ain't been over since, God damn it. Neither Mr. B or me. Both these kids got a restraining order on me. For sure. They ain't never walking through this building. Let's talk a little bit more about the Warriors.
Starting point is 01:41:47 After the Warriors' disappointing loss to the Nuggets last night, Steph Curry admitted he was exhausted, and it showed as Curry shot six for 21, scored 20 points. They asked Jimmy Butler about Steph being exhausted, and here's what Jimmy Butler had to say. Do you see him having, wearing down a little bit? Yeah, I'm not going to say he's wearing down, but it's okay to be tired. And that's on myself, and that's on us as a unit to pick up the slack for him.
Starting point is 01:42:11 He's, you know, as everybody wants to think that he is superhuman, he is not. He is our leader, and we must protect him all the time. I'm gonna tell you that. So that's on myself for sure, but everybody else to make sure that we're doing what we're supposed to be doing and give my man a break. That's some champion shit right there. So, Mr. Larry.
Starting point is 01:42:31 He brought out the other belt. Brought the belt out. Saw you watching that clip. Mm-hmm. What do you feel about Jimmy Butler's comments? What do you feel about Jimmy Butler's comments? Well, as merely a host, it's not my contract to offer my opinion. You were laughing. You laughed first. You laughed first.
Starting point is 01:42:47 I'm very easily amused, and I giggle a lot. But, as you all know. Yesterday on the show, we talked about Warriors being a championship-level ball club. Steph said, absolutely. When asked if he thinks that Warriors are a championship team, Draymond said, we're finally a ball club now with the addition of Jimmy Butler. But as J.J. Redick told the Lakers after they lost to the Bucs,
Starting point is 01:43:09 it was all good just a week ago. Just a couple days, honestly, but when you hear Jimmy Butler say Steph's exhausted, Steve Kerr echoed those sentiments in his post-game press conference as well. Do you feel like the Warriors are relying too much on Steph? I mean, they want to win, like you said. You believe Steph says they're a
Starting point is 01:43:26 championship team because he knows what it takes to get there. He got a lot of shit on his back right now. I know that. Draymond on that Gucci backpack, that's heavy by itself. Just him in the backpack. Got my back hurting. Now I gotta carry the rest. Jimmy too? Backyotomy. Jimmy too with his soft voice? That's the inside voice Jimmy. That's golf cart Jimmy. Not confidence coffee.
Starting point is 01:43:52 He ain't drunk coffee yet. It's weird. But we'll let it slide. We'll let it slide? We'll let it slide. You'll let it slide? We'll let it slide. You'll let it slide? We'll let it slide. You know Steph, you know he's struggling.
Starting point is 01:44:08 The Charleston Diamonds don't lie. Mm-hmm. Ain't no championship team. Who's struggling? Jimmy? Mm? Jimmy's struggling? Steph.
Starting point is 01:44:17 Oh. You feel like Steph is struggling, right? Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm. You gotta try to keep it together. Y'all ain't... You shot from the three yesterday, like three, four from...
Starting point is 01:44:27 Pull it up. Four from the 12. He's struggling, but they was what, 14 and one? Yeah. They're 15 and two in their last seven tickets prior to this point. 14 and one with Jimmy Butler in the lineup prior to this game. I mean, I could feel that he's tired because they had to fight back. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:43 But they're 15 and two had to fight back. Yeah. But they're 15-2. Before this game. Yeah. Four for 14 from three last time. Four for 14. I mean, yeah. I mean, shoot or shoot. Jimmy said it like it's more on him than it is the rest of the team.
Starting point is 01:45:00 He's new. He came in there to help relieve some of Steph's load. And I think he's still trying to figure out the game and fit in. And I don't think he needs to fit in right now. This is, you have championship pedigree on the team. So I think he should go in there and try to be dominant so they can see how to play with you right now you're trying to see how to play with them yeah yeah right you need to go in try
Starting point is 01:45:30 to average you need to be that legit 20 point score for them so you don't have to do the heavy lifting right I don't think Jimmy should like how Jimmy's been playing right now like like even the first play curl he gets in the lane has a nice little five footer and he tries to throw it to a three that three swung then they shot a long three right those are the put those buckets in right right you don't need to do the the hockey assist especially at the beginning of the game you need to make yourself a threat right and then pick and choose i mean you've done it like i can't tell you how to play basketball because you've you've been there you've done that just right now at this point in time he's been carrying the season tell you how to play basketball because you've been there, you've done that. Just right now at this point in time, he's been carrying the season.
Starting point is 01:46:07 So you need to relieve some of that because you've got all the energy right now. So relieve some of that so he can take a break without missing games. But ain't Jimmy supposed to know that? No. I don't think he's supposed to. He ain't supposed to go all the way in. No, no, no, no, no. We're talking about reading the room.
Starting point is 01:46:22 That's what? Read the room. Who on your team? Who left? Who left your team? Who left? Who left your team? Who left this team that I just got to? Who's on this team that I just got to? And what did he do?
Starting point is 01:46:30 What's my place on this team? What did he do? I don't know yet. I don't know yet. I mean, you got Draymond. You got Steph. I'm trying to figure it out. Expectations.
Starting point is 01:46:38 Let's talk expectations. You're coming from a place where you're the star. You're coming on a team where we expect it. But he's not a big star in this stuff. I know. But we're still expecting a star. You're coming on the team where we expected. I know, but we're still expecting a star, right? We got a star and we're expecting one. Now what we're saying is, Jimmy,
Starting point is 01:46:52 step up and be a star. Right? That's what I think we're all saying. Right now. Jimmy, we need you to be Jimmy. But this was the problem that was happening in Miami. During the season. Listen to what I'm saying. But we 15-2.
Starting point is 01:47:05 No, I'm saying. Listen to what I'm saying. You're 15-2. Why? What role is Jimmy playing at 15-2? The two. His position. I mean, shit.
Starting point is 01:47:14 So that's why you're 15-2. They didn't have that in Miami. And Jimmy was unwilling to play 100% all the time. You can't use Miami. Like, don't use Miami. It's the only reference. It's the reference. No, because I'm not playing there.
Starting point is 01:47:25 I'm not happy there. I'm saying he's done moved to a place. The problem is... But are you happy here? Yes. Okay, so why are you not playing like it? Because they're 15-2. Bro.
Starting point is 01:47:33 See, we're 15-2, man. Why? Why? Because all of us. Because all of us. The team. All of us. This is not because of Steph.
Starting point is 01:47:41 Yes. Because of all of us. Yes, but all of us too. But you made you 15-2 before I got there. If Steph plays bad, team. All of us. This is not because of Steph. Yes. Because of all of us. Yes, but all of us, too. But you didn't do 15-2 before I got there. If Steph plays bad, this is Steph's first bad game. Okay. First bad game in 16 games.
Starting point is 01:47:56 He knew it. He knew it. Okay, go ahead. He knew it was his first bad game. They were 12-3 to start the season, went through a really nasty slump, and then now have since got it back together. So now that you got this streak, and then you play bad this one game, and he knows it, he's like, man, I can't afford to play bad.
Starting point is 01:48:18 That's what that was. I can't afford to play bad. I can't afford to have nights like this where we look at the sheet and we say, well, we got to now expect Jimmy to do more. Four for 14 on shots. Okay, Jimmy. So if Jimmy doesn't know to do more, I can't afford to have these games. Because Jimmy's supposed to know. What?
Starting point is 01:48:40 Steph not going? No. I got to pick up the pieces. When Steph's going, we're going. And then for y'all to admit that he's tired and he looks exhausted because he's been doing so much. Well, that's their opinion, that he ain't say that. Well, he said it in the press conference that he's tired.
Starting point is 01:48:54 Steph said that? Yeah. Said his back is, well, he said he feels all right, but his back, his back is tight. I mean, yeah, I mean, Braun's sitting out, I mean, these are guys who waited. Y'all looking at that wrong. But he said he had a bad game. He just said, like, I just had a bad night, to be honest. He's like, I mean, Braun's sitting out. I mean, these are guys who played in... He said he had a bad game.
Starting point is 01:49:05 He just said, like, I just had a bad night, to be honest. He's like, I just had a bad night. And he said, this is the first time in a while that I've really had one. So it's, I get that you guys are worried about whether I'm tired or not because I've been lighting it up like this. But there's nothing to panic on, I think.
Starting point is 01:49:19 No, no, what I'm saying is, Jimmy Butler came into a situation where he has to fill out the room. Right? He's got to make sure that he's fitting in with their program. Right? This is not he can come in and just do what the fuck he wants to do. He's trying to say, yo, I'm here to win.
Starting point is 01:49:38 Whatever you guys need from me, this is what I'm going to do. Well, they've been winning. So there's never been a reason for him to tap into 20 and go to 30. Because how we've been doing it It's been working for us. We lost leaders tired. Okay, I'll do more Yeah, so we'll see what happens moving forward as of right now There was no reason for Jimmy to go out there and just do a whole bunch of stuff because it was successful Just like what our Kaminga Kaminga had to come in and fit in like we're winning I don't need you to come here and do shit. It's working this way. Now we're losing Steph
Starting point is 01:50:08 I mean we lost Steph says hey my back a little sprained now Kaminga Need you to be a little more aggressive takes the pressure off him. Jimmy do a little bit more So he can rest a little bit more. That's all. During that streak though Kaminga was, wasn't Kaminga out half of that streak? Right, so it changes a lot of the dynamics of scoring and other players for him, right? So now that they got that, and we asking the question, like, Jimmy, Jimmy got to look like he want to be the second guy. But we have to see now. Like, he's been a second.
Starting point is 01:50:38 He's watched it last night. But we just seen it last night. That's what I'm saying. The only indication we have right now is last night. If you want to win a championship, you got to learn how to fall in line. Everybody got to be as one. He knows Steph is his leader. You go on a 15-1 winning streak, you stick to what was going on.
Starting point is 01:50:54 Now Steph is hurt. Not hurt. Tired. Not tired. Tired ball. That big anus wing. Just a little bite. But ask him if he's going to sit out.
Starting point is 01:51:02 Is he going to sit out like Amar? Did he play tonight? He played tonight against Milwaukee. If he sit out. Is he going to sit out the game? Did he play tonight? If he played tonight against the Walkers. If he sit out, it's time for Jimmy to get more aggressive and learn how to add that in, too. What I'm saying is even if Steph plays, I think Jimmy is going to probably be more aggressive. Yeah, for sure. All of them, though. Yeah, I think they're going to be more aggressive.
Starting point is 01:51:19 So does the more aggressive mean 20-plus? Yeah. It could be more aggressive. Or does that just mean he's going to have moments of playing hard? No, I think he's going to try to go. He's going to try to relieve some of the pressure. I think he plays hard. Him and Kameem.
Starting point is 01:51:30 No, I didn't say he didn't play. I'm talking about scoring. Like, being aggressive and going to get that shit done is different than just going out there and being Jimmy Butler, playing hard and all that shit. I mean, sometimes, like, we've all been there. We've been on a team where there's something going on and you can't really do you because you don't want to mess up the flow Joe and you're waiting for a loss Mm-hmm say all right. So well y'all need me right and then you get to play your game because they took that L This is one of those moments. So we get to see like how cominga and
Starting point is 01:52:01 Jimmy responds today if they're gonna be be more aggressive to see what they have. So we got some news. Steph has been ruled out. Yep, I knew he wasn't going to play. Jimmy's going to have about 25, 28. First the Bucs with the back. At least go for it. Where they at?
Starting point is 01:52:16 Where is the Warriors statistically? At home? Six in the West. In the standings? Six in the West. Six? How many games up? So six in the West right now.
Starting point is 01:52:24 They are. Them and the Timberwolves basically are 17 games behind, but they've got, I think, one less win. The Timberwolves got 40 wins. So, Warriors are 39-29. Timberwolves are 40-30. So, Warriors have a better win percentage at this point. It's just one game. So, this game right now, even up, if they lose this next game?
Starting point is 01:52:42 If they lose this game, then I believe the Timberwolves would jump them for the six-pound words. We'd be back in a plane And then what's the rest of their schedule like? Warriors it's only what like 15 games. Yeah, I'll give you there'd be six So they have the Bucks tonight then they've got the Raptors Hawks Heat Pelican Spurs. Yeah Grizzlies, Lakers, Nuggets, Rockets, Suns, Spurs. So they got 14 games left? Those four games are going to be tough. Lakers, Rockets, Nuggets. Yeah, Grizzlies, Lakers, Rockets.
Starting point is 01:53:17 That's after the skid though. It's like six games before they can get their momentum back. Them motherfuckers will be on fire by then. Who do you got after this? Raptors, I believe. before they can get their momentum back. Them motherfuckers will be on fire by then. Yeah, they'll be on fire by then. Who do you got after this? Raptors, I believe. He might fuck around some two games. Raptors, Hawks.
Starting point is 01:53:29 Yeah. He might fuck around some two games. And, you know, Jimmy really own the Bucs, so it's... And it's all those or are those home games? Mixed, obviously. Jimmy what? The first guy that he said that he owned that shit? Play all, all that shit.
Starting point is 01:53:44 He owns shit. So they've got the Raptors at home story today going to road trips a road trip They got the Hawks heat Pelicans. Are they going to East Spurs Grizzlies? Lakers and they come back down on the bottom. Yeah Like six or six game road trip to their back they soon gonna be seven So after tonight's game or after tonight's game in the Raptors game city going to six game We're gonna be seven cuz you got to play in the play-in game to get seven Yeah, and play Portland or Dallas in the plane. No, you got to play horse eight. So that's Phoenix Suns Clippers No, let me listen 12 7 & 8. You have to play eight
Starting point is 01:54:21 Or the seven so the plan yeah, then So whoever wins between seven and eight, which is the stupidest shit. I'm sorry, that's just dumb, just to think about it. I got to play a motherfucker who's behind me for my spot that I'm in. Yeah, that's crazy. I'm five games in front of you,
Starting point is 01:54:40 but I got to play you for my spot. So even if you five games in front of you? Yeah, that's weird. I got to play you for this spot. So even if you five games? We'll beat them. Yes. Yeah, that's weird. I got to play you for this position. That is crazy, man. And knowing you can get that spot. You five games. Off one game.
Starting point is 01:54:52 You five games. Off one game. Off five. We could go in here and steal this. Steal this. Somebody hit a crazy game. One good game. Oh.
Starting point is 01:54:59 That is, that is, oh. Let Aiden fight for his mother. That's a hard factor. Nine play 10, and whoever wins. If you feel like top 7 should make it, then the 8 should be toss the wild card. Like the wild card game. Let 9 and 10 play and then winner 9 and 10 play 8.
Starting point is 01:55:17 I'm the 7 spot playing the team behind me for my spot. Just doesn't seem right. just doesn't seem right. Especially if you, like, five years... Like, I've been six and seven all fucking year long. This motherfucker been eight, nine, ten, fucking around in the back room. Like, double elimination. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:37 You can lose twice at the bottom and still be in the championship. Hell no. And then I beat you and I'm seven? Yeah. Hell no. And I don't you and I'm seven? Yeah. Yeah. Hell no. And I don't even get eighth. I got to fight now for eighth.
Starting point is 01:55:49 That fucks up your head more. Yeah. We got the eighth. We got the eighth. And we got to play the Lakers. Got to play the first number one. It was one eight, right? I believe the Lakers have never lost a playing championship.
Starting point is 01:56:00 No, that's what I'm saying. But that's what the Lakers. Lakers been in seven fighting for seven. And successful. No, it's just I'm saying. But that's what the Lakers, Lakers been in seven, fighting for seven. Yeah. And successful. No, it's just a fucking waste of, it's a game that I could be resting. Yeah, that's what they was talking about, what Tim Hardaway was talking about Miami. Like we don't want to be in the play-in, we want to have enough time to rest and prepare
Starting point is 01:56:19 for the first week of that play-in. You're basically close to a week off obviously between that last game on Sunday versus the fifth. Like if you want to do a, I don't even think there should be a play-in shit. You're basically close to a week off, obviously, between that last game on Sunday versus the fifth next play-off. Like, if you want to do a... I don't even think there should be a play-in game. Man. I mean, like... Because it's wasting their rest. No, what I'm saying is, we had 82 games to see who the fuck was one through eight.
Starting point is 01:56:38 These motherfuckers been losing all year long. Yeah. Now you're going to give them a chance to use one game to... At the end of the season. At the end of the season. But let me play devil's advocate. It don't make it interesting. Devil's advocate.
Starting point is 01:56:49 You talk about teams that have been losing during the season, but they might have suffered injuries. I don't give a fuck what y'all are. Or a terrible GM. And it's the times when some people have to sit down and do the same record. Just because you beat these certain teams, you couldn't get in. There's teams... Hey, hey, hey, hey.
Starting point is 01:57:01 And like you're saying, like the Jalen Brunson shit, like certain teams that come from 12 to fight back to eight to try to get in because they had momentum for the last 15, 16 games. They went on the street. They deserve a chance. If they got eight, they got eight. Why are you fighting for seven? To then get seven for now. Seven, who's been holding seven all year.
Starting point is 01:57:25 So is seven always up for the slot? I thought it was just eight. Seven and eight. Seven and eight. So seven and eight play for seven, and then nine and ten play for eight. So whoever loses seven and eight, whoever loses seven and eight.
Starting point is 01:57:37 Exactly. I thought it was just eight. No, there's been... I thought it's always been just an eight spot. There's been years where from seven spot to the tenth spot, that's a big-ass gap. That's not like three, four games. You're talking about 10, 15 games. Yeah, for sure, for sure.
Starting point is 01:57:53 And there's possibilities where they can lose the eighth, they win, and then they push them out. A 15-gap winning streak or distance margin. Last year, it was like real close, wasn't it? Between all the out-of-bounds teams. It always is. But just how you just explained it, though, if one team can lose, one pushes one team out, and then the whole thing changes as far as match-ups
Starting point is 01:58:19 and who plays against each other, and then you got to play twice. What I'm saying is something that's better is, all right, eighth spot, right? All right, eighth spot. What we're going to do is we're going to do a tournament between 9, 10, 11, 12, right? We're going to have a little bracket between them, and then we're going to play, right? Those, you know, let's say 8 and 10 win, whatever their matchup is, however you do it, you'll be 8, 10, 9, 11, right?
Starting point is 01:58:44 So 8, 9, no, no, 10, 11, 12, 13, right? That's how it'll be, right? So it'll be 9 and 11, 10 and 13, right? Let them play. Winners play each other. Whoever wins that plays eighth, right? So that means they played two times before they played an eighth spot, so it's a disadvantage for them because they're a little bit tired, which is the point. plays eighth, right? So that means they played two times before they played an eighth spot,
Starting point is 01:59:06 so it's a disadvantage for them because they're a little bit tired, which is the point. But you got more games, you got excitement. It's like AAU. But don't they do that now in the bracket? Four games in a row. The last 16 games. You got the play-in.
Starting point is 01:59:20 What is the first in the tournament? It's tonight, right? Oh, yeah, yeah. What's the first four? The first four, if I'm not mistaken. It's not called play-in. It's called something else. It ain't the play-in tournament? It's tonight, right? Oh, yeah, yeah. What's they call it? The first four, if I'm not mistaken. It's not called play-in. It ain't the play-in, but it's something. But they play for that six-team spot.
Starting point is 01:59:31 The winners of the conference tournament play for the play-in slot. Is the first four, what is that called? First four. Like North Carolina. That's what it's called? That's what it's called. It's the first four. First four.
Starting point is 01:59:45 So 68 teams, right? The first four play in to advance to now get in the national tournament. The thing is called something, not a play-in, though. The Tuesday-Wednesday game is the first four, and then the Tuesday plays Thursday, Wednesday plays the first four. The pre-selection and some shit? I don't know. It's tonight, though.
Starting point is 01:59:59 What was it? What do we call it? It is called the first four. The first four. Players call it something else. It's the 16-16 and what, the 12 seeds, right? That's what I don't know. We want to get on.
Starting point is 02:00:09 That's a whole other thing. With the tournament. Rashad, you won the tournament, man. You tell me. The tournament, the tournament, conference tournament winners play for the play-in. So you got the 16 seeds that they'll play. Like, so the bottom, like the last teams to get in,
Starting point is 02:00:23 the 16 seeds will play to become a 16th seed in the actual tournament. Then you've got the 12th seed that also do it. Yeah, so the 16th seed are the ones that play, like the final four, the last four. So the first four is like, it's two 16s and two 12s, if I'm not mistaken. Okay, so they play for the 16th spot. And then they play for the 12th spot. But those 12 teams would have already actually been in the tournament. So now they've got to, so now your season gets ruined on a Tuesday or Wednesday
Starting point is 02:00:44 if you trick that game. I didn't know it was 12. Yeah, they got 12. I didn't know it was 12 either. Because we played 12 seed. Mm. Damn. Yeah, because they put some of those conference champions
Starting point is 02:00:53 to those lower spots. Yeah. So if you're in the Yankee Conference, you're generally going to get that 15, 16. Yeah, like Asheville, North Carolina. Arizona was number one, right? Y'all was number one. They were sitting there, I think it was two.
Starting point is 02:01:05 Two one year, maybe. How many teams from the pack got in that year? Us, Stanford. Cause we had, Who else got in? Eight teams. UCLA? We were in there. I mean, to be honest, we wasn't in that bitch. We was thinking about championship.
Starting point is 02:01:19 We had eight teams in that bitch that year. Were you paying attention when you guys came into the Poly Bavilion? And I had like 25. You had 32, second half of overtime, I bitch that year. Were you paying attention when you guys came into Pauley Pavilion? And I had like 25. You had 32. Second half of overtime, I remember that game. You had 32? I had a course title. That's hard to do in college.
Starting point is 02:01:32 I let the team score, man. Big zero on the first half. Man, 14 points. What was it? I had four All-Americans on my team. The starting four of the besides. Me too. They was All-Americans.
Starting point is 02:01:42 Me too. McDonald's All-Americans. Me too. North Carolina actually in the first quarter. Did you lead the team? Your freshman year? No. I made it 30 points. I made it 30 points. I made it 30 points.
Starting point is 02:01:55 For me? Oh, no. I averaged about 20, so it's like... Your freshman year, rookie year? No, no. Rookie year, I averaged 17. Oh, that's good. That's nice. So, first four, also known as the early eight, 11th seats and 16th seats. Two. So which year was your sophomore year then? 15.
Starting point is 02:02:12 That's peasant. Then I entered the drill. Yeah, that's peasant. But I had four All-Americans. What did you average your second year? You didn't have four All-Americans in your team? Tosh Gibson, Gabe Pruitt, yes. They was, yes.
Starting point is 02:02:23 Okay, who else? I said four. And fucking Daniel Hack yes. Okay. Well, I said for And fucking day Maggie. I know what I average in county logic Stewart. They always your sophomore year cap I told the NCAA ain't making no money off I'm worth a million man. I'm gonna worth 1.5 out of high school, man. What you talking about, dog? At like 20.
Starting point is 02:02:47 Can you tell him who the top five L.A. City scorers are of all time? So number one is Elijah Arenas. Say that again? Elijah Arenas. That's cool. I believe number five is Gilbert Arenas. I don't know two, three, four.
Starting point is 02:03:01 So top five, you got two Arenas in there. Did you see a young in there? Did you see one of them youngs? I did not see Championship P's there. I don't know what you three, four. So top five, you got two arenas in there. Did you see a young in there? Did you see one of them youngs? I did not see championship peas there. I don't know what you was doing in high school, but you wasn't getting to the bacon. You didn't even make the playoffs. All you could do was score.
Starting point is 02:03:13 You wasn't getting to the bacon. How does it feel to be a loser? This is a scoring loser. Who didn't get to the playoffs? You're just a scoring loser. Who didn't get to the playoffs? I told you, man. Who didn't get to the playoffs?
Starting point is 02:03:21 I got to the playoffs, sir. Don't talk to me if you ain't won. You lost in the first round just like I did, sir. No, you crave this, pup. You must be on dope or dog food. Dope or dog food. Well, let's keep this thing moving. Thanks to NetSuite for sponsoring today's podcast.
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Starting point is 02:04:16 at this point in the show, the Lakers. Yeah, I mean, I feel like we have to. The Caucasian Lakers, the Brownless. Ronnie doing his thing. So Lakers hosted the Spurs last night in a make-up game from January 11th. It marked L.A.'s fourth game in five nights. So let's take a look at some of the highlights. So Luka Doncic got 21 points, 14 rebounds, and 9 assists.
Starting point is 02:04:39 5 for 20 from the field, but got to the free throw line 13 times. Was 10 of 13 from the line. Austin Reeves led the Lakers in scoring with 30 points on 12 for 21 shooting. Been on a tear with LeBron out of the lineup. More to come on that in just a second. Dorian Finney-Smith also known in the arena as Black and Miles. Jordan Goodwin, Gabe Vincent, and Dalton Connect also scored in double figures for the Lakers. Ronnie James also got in the game late, sunk a very, very pivotal three-pointer. Ooh.
Starting point is 02:05:11 On the other side, rookie Stephon Castle led the Wimbley Spurs in scoring with 23 points. With the win, the Lakers moved up to the fourth spot in the West would face the Grizzlies if the playoffs began today. Papa Dilemon. Wait, Grizzlies is five? Huh? Grizzlies is five? They are below the Lakers.
Starting point is 02:05:27 The four-seeded Los Angeles Lakers of Los Angeles. Backdoor. Ah! That's just terrible defense. Yeah, you can see that coming from a mile away. So, Gil, we were watching Nuggets-Warriors. That game was mid, so we switched over to Spurs-Lakers. No, it's not. That's a bop-bop. You can't guard. Look, that's a bop bop. You can't guard look that's my bum
Starting point is 02:05:47 My dad Papa de limon you're not stop Multiple circles that's a a sir and that's a foul and as a foul just the angles that's been the best third option for a long Time I mean I just just bad angle you could if you want to take my so Gil a resident Lakers So how much credit do you give the Lakers for the win with LeBron James still sidelined? That's now two in a row. That's two. Caucasian Lakers. We had them.
Starting point is 02:06:09 We're two and three? Or is that six games, six? Hmm? That's six games? So we can possibly be three and three? So they lost four straight, but one of those was with LeBron playing against... Yeah, I'm talking about since then.
Starting point is 02:06:19 We've had six without LeBron. So we only had... We've had five without LeBron. So we're two and three. We got one more. I'm good. I ain't gonna front. We had... We've had a five without LeBron. So we're two and three. We got one more. I'm good. I ain't gonna front. We had y'all winning one game.
Starting point is 02:06:28 Six games, eight. Some in the arena said only six. I had y'all winning one game. Some said no wins for the Lakers in that six game, an eight-day stretch. What I'm liking, just as a fan, what I'm liking is this. The shots they're taking or getting
Starting point is 02:06:43 are so wide open, it should be scary. Lucas putting so much pressure on defenses that you are forced to double this man. If you're not, he is just going to pick apart the offense. And, you know, when you're talking about wide-open shots, you're talking about wide-open shots for people who can score their own buckets. So Reeves is getting wide-open shots.
Starting point is 02:07:08 Blackett Miles is getting wide-open shots. Gabe is getting wide-open shots. I mean, this is amazing, you know, this play. Then you add LeBron. I mean, you're talking about... You're talking about a team who's going to be thriving at the three-point line because you are focused on Luka at all times.
Starting point is 02:07:28 You can't just let him play one-on-one at no point. Right now, hear me out, right now. I'm hearing you. Do this sound crazy? No. Right now, at this stage, not saying overall, is AR a better number two option than Kyrie at this stage right now you said number two see Swaggy I wasn't gonna go that far I said top number three option in the
Starting point is 02:07:54 league right now not overall not overall no don't think of Kyrie back in the day think of Kyrie right now how much is AR average as the number two option without LeBron? So, in the eight games that Austin Reed has played without LeBron James this season, Gil, you're going to want to see. 28.7. 28.6. Like I fucking said. 8.4, 6.8. Like I fucking said.
Starting point is 02:08:15 I didn't even know when I said 28.7. God damn. Like I said. And remember when LeBron was out, he had 40. Think about all the buckets he gets. Like a 45, 77 game. I'm not saying bad of Kyrie at all. But I'm saying right now. What are you saying? Kyrie's hurt. Yeah, 40 speak about all the buckets he get like a 45 What are you saying Kyrie's hurt
Starting point is 02:08:31 So what are you saying? Hmm? Kairi sir, he tore his what are you saying? We got her which is the fact that you put a are in the same conversation as Kyrie is just like no no He's in before he got her. He just saw my pretty before Last year so last year no no no no no before he got, no, no, no, no. Before he got hurt, like, the season. But he was the number one option, though. I'm going to say he was the number one option. He was, yeah. He wasn't the number two option.
Starting point is 02:08:51 I'm just throwing it out there. Just throwing it out there. Keep throwing. Kyrie has the number two option. They went to the finals last year. He's trying to intercept the ball. What are you going to do? I mean, Kyrie has the number two option last year.
Starting point is 02:09:00 Went to the finals. So I'm going to read you Austin Reeves' last four games. We're not talking about wins here. We're talking about production. Winning is the number two. Winning is the number to read you Austin Reeves' last four games. We're not talking about wins here. We're talking about production. So Austin Reeves' last four games. We'll start, work our way back. So against the Bucks, 28-8-3. Against the Nuggets, 37-8-13 assists.
Starting point is 02:09:16 Against the Suns, 28-4 rebounds, 6 assists. And then last night against the Spurs, 30 points, 7 rebounds, 6 assists, 2 starts. Come on. Come on. That's four games. Come on, boy. Oh, four games? That's four games. Come on, niggas. Get it going, boy.
Starting point is 02:09:26 Oh, four games? That's in four games? We talking about four games? No, he's been doing it. Okay. You can even do it before Luka. Okay. Do it when he scored 40 when LeBron was out.
Starting point is 02:09:34 45-7. Have you seen Kyrie as a number one? Yeah, 40. Have you seen Kyrie as a number one option? Yes. Okay. I'm not talking about Kyrie. I'm talking about...
Starting point is 02:09:43 You put Kyrie in this. You put Kyrie in this. You say, is he a better number two? Right now. Kyrie's talking about Kyrie. I'm talking about... You put Kyrie in this. You put Kyrie in this. You say, is he a better number two? Right now. Kyrie's hurt. Right now. Of course. Of course.
Starting point is 02:09:50 Kyrie's hurt right now. Of course he is. Because Kyrie's hurt right now. Hey, man. You can't be mad at this. The hell? If he has AI right now, the percentage, let's say he averaged 28 something. We can ask both AI.
Starting point is 02:10:01 And what Kyrie averaged? 22, 23? What's the question, Nick? I'm saying right now. No. He better... No, no, no's Harry's average? 22, 23? What's the question, Nick? I'm saying right now. No, no, no, no. Hold on. He better than... What's the question?
Starting point is 02:10:09 Tell me the question. I'm going to ask... We're going to ask AI right now. Right now? We're going to ask AI. Tell me the question. What's the question? If you could ask AI how I just said it...
Starting point is 02:10:17 What's the question? ...he could be a better number two right now. Is he a better... Of course they're going to say it... Is Austin Reeves... Austin Reeves a better number two option right now? In 2025. Can you type Lemon Daddy?
Starting point is 02:10:27 Try to see how... 2025 season. In 2025 season. I'm not talking overall. That sounds crazy, but I'm talking about in 2025 season. He's a better number two than Devin Booker right now. Yeah. Than Kyrie was last year?
Starting point is 02:10:40 No, this year. Kyrie's the number one. They started off together, right? How many games did they play together? 20-something? About 15, 16. Do it last year. Last year, right?
Starting point is 02:10:48 Is Austin Reed a better second option right now than Kyrie Irving was last year? Of course, they're going to make it to the finals last year. I said right now. You didn't say right now. I said right now. No. They said, yeah, that's last year, of course. I said right now. Yeah didn't say right now. No. He did say right now. No. They said, yeah, that's last year, of course.
Starting point is 02:11:06 I'm saying right now. Yeah, right. Okay. Let me change. Before he got hurt. Let me see. For the 2025 season, before he got hurt.
Starting point is 02:11:13 Put a limit, daddy. So we doing 20 games out of four. You gotta be, you gotta be, you gotta, yeah. You gotta say, you gotta say November.
Starting point is 02:11:20 This year? You gotta say November. No, it can't be this year. January? 2025? You gotta say November. No, you can't be this year. January? 2025? No, you got to say November. You can't say this season. October, November, December before Luka actually got out
Starting point is 02:11:31 because that's the only time he was actually number two. Before Luka's injury. Yeah, before Luka's injury. Oh, okay. I mean, boy, see, I was doing that time. You good? Can you tell me real AI now? No.
Starting point is 02:11:43 Yeah, I knew that. All three was not a better second option than Kyrie before Luka's injury. Kyrie was playing at an elite level alongside Luka, averaging 25, 5, and 5. Oh, I see. Come on, man. The shot creation, ball handling ability.
Starting point is 02:11:56 So did I win? Austin Reeves is a solid secondary playmaker and can score efficiently, but he's not on Kyrie's level in turn. This is AI saying that. That's good. He's not. All right. He's not staying on the level, but he's not on Kyrie's level in terms. This is AI saying that. That's good. He's not. All right.
Starting point is 02:12:06 He's not saying on the level, but you just proved his 25. He said 25, 5, and 5 as a second option. He's saying alongside Luka. Yeah, as a second option. And he averaged 28. So he's alongside Luka now. He's averaging 28. In four games.
Starting point is 02:12:22 I thought it was without. That's without LeBron. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Because it's only in four games. I thought it was without. That's without LeBron. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Because it's only in four games. It was only a couple games. So far. Is he a better second option than Norman Paul? No, Norman Paul.
Starting point is 02:12:36 Paul? Who? Norman Paul. I would say because he's younger. That's different because he was technically the number one option. I'm just saying. As a one option. Papadi Limon? I'm just saying. As a third option, he's the best third option.
Starting point is 02:12:53 He's averaging 20 right now. He's averaging 30 right now. He's averaging 20 right now as a third option. He's averaging 20. You know what I'm saying? As a third option, he's the best third option. Once LeBron retires, we're still going to be in good hands. That's what I'm saying. With him and Luka.
Starting point is 02:13:07 Well, Joe said that he's playing like an all-NBA. No, with LeBron out. In the games that LeBron hasn't been in. Which I would say those numbers would be worthy of all-NBA. What do your numbers have to be to be all-third NBA? Not this year. Not this year. I know, but what do your numbers have to be?
Starting point is 02:13:24 Like, what do they have to average to be third? I don't know. I done seen some weird shit in all NBA games. I said the eight games he's played without LeBron, he's averaging 29, eight assists, seven rebounds. I would say those would be NBA level numbers in that small sample size of eight games. Oh, so we see what the future is like. Is the without LeBron with Luka, though?
Starting point is 02:13:47 No, some of them was before Luka. Just without Luka. So some of them, he was the number one Austin. So Austin and AD been talking to each other, trying to figure out what they could have been getting their little jiggle on. Well, no. They could have been getting their little jiggle on.
Starting point is 02:14:00 No, Austin could get his jiggle on. No, no, no. Austin and AD. No, no, not AD. Not Austin. Not AD. Austin could get his jiggle. No, no, no. Austin and AD. No, no, not AD. No, Austin. Not AD. How much he had? Austin.
Starting point is 02:14:07 That was the... Austin. Not AD. Austin. He was being held back by Lil D-Lo being in front of him. Yes, but he didn't prove that you didn't need Anthony Davis. Yes. Anthony Davis was the second option.
Starting point is 02:14:20 He's showing you that... He's showing you when LeBron's gone, I can take over, and he's still going to be who he is. Yes, yes. He's showing y'all that based on the offense that they have, which is no big offense. It's not going to sustain. He's playing good now. He's not going to keep 30 a game up.
Starting point is 02:14:36 What? Come on. Shit, I don't know. Still Austin. Shit, I don't know. He played 60 games, and he averaged, what, 20? What you mean, still Austin? As a third option. Yeah, as a third option. it's still Austin Reeves? As a third option.
Starting point is 02:14:45 As a third option. What you mean Austin Reeves? Man, you start getting that green light like that, shit. Ain't going to be no just Austin Reeves. He's better than I thought he was. Thank you, good. I just wanted to hear that. He's better than I thought he was.
Starting point is 02:14:54 26 and five in 60 games. I didn't think he was that good. I'll be honest. I think Dalton Connect is better. You think Dalton Connect is better? I think Dalton Connect is better. All right, man. 100%.
Starting point is 02:15:04 They're the same age. But, you know is better. 100%. They're the same age. But, you know, Dawson is good. They're the same age. You can't say he's younger. How you gonna see Dawson's age? He's better.
Starting point is 02:15:11 Austin Reeves is average. Austin Reeves is 26 years old. He's alive right now. Yeah, his usage rate, though, is high as fuck. Who? Austin Reeves. Man, get into it.
Starting point is 02:15:20 If you give that young boy Dawg Connect that same usage rate, you ain't talking no more. I mean, he out there. I mean, but listen. No, no, but my thing is he out there. No, no, no boy, Dalton, connect that same usage rate, you ain't talking no way. I mean, he out there. But listen, my thing is he out there.
Starting point is 02:15:28 No, no, but my thing is he's out there. Austin Reed's pulled that last year. Austin Reed's pulled that last year. That's a bad white boy. I'm not going to... That's a bad ass white boy. Look, Dalton dunked that shit. That's fine.
Starting point is 02:15:42 That's fine. That white boy out here doing... Bam, bam, bam, bam. That white boy, yeah, Dalton dunked that shit. That's fine. That's fine. That white boy out here doing, bam, bam, bam, bam. That white boy, yeah. Dalton got real good. Yeah, that was bad defense, but he made it fly. Yeah, he had, what's his name on the pick and roll? Come here.
Starting point is 02:15:53 Yeah, bad defense. That's a bad white boy. He's not creating his own shot. That's the baddest white boy he's played in. Like, all the Reeves know how to actually get fouled. Man. He's very good at getting fouled. And when he out there on himself,
Starting point is 02:16:05 oh, bet, it's my time. For you. He put... Bro, that boy's a killer. So we asked... I need me an AR-15 jersey. Thank you. We asked who's a better number two option to LeBron.
Starting point is 02:16:18 Okay, 26% said Lemmy Daddy, 74% said Kyrie, but that's still LeBron. That's still LeBron. They won championship together. But let's talk about last night. After last night's win, Lucas said this about Papadim LeMond. I mean, this guy just scored 30 in his four game in five days.
Starting point is 02:16:34 That explains everything. But he's an amazing player. For him to go undrafted is unbelievable. And, you know, it's not easy to go and draft it and then play at this level. And it's amazing just to be by his side. You see his English already got better. Oh, boy. You see that shit.
Starting point is 02:16:54 Look good. You see the words is coming clearer than a motherfucker, boy. It's that bitch, Chip Todd, baby. It ain't that Dallas Boone shit he was giving y'all. They teaching him what to say when he holds that trophy. You know, when you win, you're like, anything is possible. They thinking, they getting ready for it. You got to teach them that shit.
Starting point is 02:17:14 And that's going to be on the next shoot. Whatever he say after they win, it's going to be on the next shoot. His next Jordan? Yeah. His Jordan signature? That's Adidas. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 02:17:24 That little shout out you done gave us. Yeah. Is it Jordan's signature? That's Adidas. I appreciate that. That's a pretty little shout out you done gave us. Yeah. See my dog. I was Adidas too. Whoever paid me, I'm with. But look, I get it. I'm sticking to Lucas again.
Starting point is 02:17:33 Listen, they ain't paying you like Rockport paying me. What? Shroud is wearing the Rockport. That's the shit I'm talking about. You even went to Flair Steepanation. See, you gotta go low budget to get high budget. See what I'm saying? I go in low budget.
Starting point is 02:17:44 You even tried to wear an even-neighbored shoe shoes. They gave me about six self-pickers for this. Quality shoes. They said, go ahead and put these soft shoes on. We'll throw you a bag. I said, okay. I ain't no front. They throw you a bag. I'm going right back to Target to get another size, baby.
Starting point is 02:17:57 Go ahead and throw me a couple more hundred thousand. You can go to church or to Hoopin's. Shit, they got budgets for the Rockport. Steven A's on. Yeah, I came prepared. Little P. For sure. Them the shoes right there.
Starting point is 02:18:08 For sure. The little P. You don't even get in without having these on. He said, for me, it's the clothes. You got to goddamn wipe your feet at the dope. Them the carrots. You might as well. Them the, I'm going to record you.
Starting point is 02:18:20 Come here. Get off my property, buddy. I just see the rock porch. I don't care. I've been living here. This is my parking space. This is a neighborhood watch. Get out of my parking space. I'm not moving.
Starting point is 02:18:33 This is mine. You don't live here. I've been living here 20 years. I've never seen you. Tight as a motherfucker. I got the brown on the back. Let me get the brown on the back. You know somebody?
Starting point is 02:18:47 I can coordinate with the brown on the back, baby. You know, get the brown on the back. I always say no. What? What? Do you know somebody in the neighborhood? Nope. Keep going.
Starting point is 02:18:57 Do you live here? Nope. You do this. You be like, do we have problems? So, Gil, earlier in the season, when I pointed out that Austin Reeves was the best third option in the NBA, you were a little hesitant and reluctant to acknowledge that. We've had some debates here in this arena. So, so far this season, in total, Austin Reeves averaging 20.6 assists, 5 rebounds in 60 games.
Starting point is 02:19:19 As I mentioned previously, the eight games without LeBron, the numbers jumped to 29 points, 8 assists, seven rebounds. But I want to know from you, Austin Reeves undrafted, Lakers made a great move bringing him onto the roster. He's proven he took a discount to stay in LA. I think the Spurs offered him more bread, said no, I want these Lemon Daddy billboards in Los Angeles where they belong. What is Austin Reeves feeling in the league? I mean like as an individual it looks like like he's holding his own as a you know
Starting point is 02:19:50 making an all-star game like I mean he's one of those guys like you know Jordan Poole was actually you know he got drafted but that Jordan Poole
Starting point is 02:19:58 where someone can make him the number one option yeah right there'd probably be a team out there that actually you know say you know we're gonna make you the number one option. Yeah. Right? There'd probably be a team out there that actually, you know, say, you know what, we're going to make you a number one option.
Starting point is 02:20:09 You know, that's his ceiling. It all depends on, you know, the luck and, you know, what he wants to do. But the talent is there, the skill is there, the willingness to get better is there. And you think it would translate to another franchise. I think that was kind of the conversation. You come play with the Lakers, play with guys like LeBron, Luka, those type of guys where you're not the primary focus of the defense.
Starting point is 02:20:30 You're able to put those numbers up like that. But even without those guys. I mean, he's holding his own. Yeah, because he had 15 games without a star next to him. He's gotten better every year. Yeah. Yeah. So... Peyton Pritchard better.
Starting point is 02:20:48 Peyton Pritchard better than Austin Reeves in your estimation, Mr. Larry? Oh, no. You think so? But also, I said that... Austin Reeves is better than Bradley Beal. He's a better third option than Bradley Beal right now. I mean, well, he has been all year. All year.
Starting point is 02:21:05 I gotta give Austin Reeves that. And what I'm saying is different roles, but Pritchard has different roles. But that's why I said... But, but, but... I say that based on the talent and the opportunity that Austin Reeves has with the Lakers if Pritchard had the same type of opportunity. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:21:22 I mean, he had 40 as a starter, so we see what he can do as a starter. It ain't about his size. It ain't about his size. Yeah. It's about what he can saying. Yeah, I mean he had 40 as a starter so we see what he what he could do I ain't about him sighs anybody sighs. Yeah, but he's like he get a bucket. He go get a bucket He might have time he won't him is JJ Maria the same Name is sets again. So you can see he's 26 and 5 I believe in 263 but that's you should still use He started he's passing he's usage rate. It's still usage rate. Rebound, six rebounds, five. Right. So if he's starting. He's passing. He's getting a fifth, too.
Starting point is 02:21:48 He's a player. How tall is he, though? He would have to be like 40. He just had 40. He just had 40. But he played like that. So Peyton Pritchard averaging 14, four rebounds, 3.4 assists. On what minutes? 28 minutes per game.
Starting point is 02:22:02 28. Yeah. On a team where he got to do this. So if he's on a team where Austin Reeves comes in. On the Celtics? Listen. Austin Reeves comes in at 35. But they don't got him on your microwave for us.
Starting point is 02:22:14 They got him on. Come in here and score. Just do what you do. Just do what you do. No. His mind, he's not, I got to score. He's just, I'm just going, you know, if I get some shit open I'll get some shit open think about if they tell him go get it I think they tell white and all of them not touching the ball
Starting point is 02:22:33 No, he didn't 18 or Jordan pool he turns into Lou Williams in them he turns into you So that's all say a nor Jordan pool So I mean he's gonna have that green light pool If he had to join the Wizards me I would the Wizards me if you put paid in a set of pool there Two different people, but I'm just saying I read both like Peyton's is his stable. So yeah He knows how to play Basketball but then one just knows how to play he just One just knows how to play. You put him out there, no rules, then you take Jordan Poole.
Starting point is 02:23:10 You know what I mean? One knows how to play basketball. You can't say that. Pritchard was a scorer his whole life. He's on the Wizards. That's why there's no structure in basketball. But when Poole was on the Warriors, now he knows how to play basketball. So if Peyton was on that team, it would have been worse.
Starting point is 02:23:24 What'd they do when he was on the Warriors? He just got to go out there and just shoot and play. The knew how to play basketball. He was a structure. If Peyton was on that team, it would have been worse. So what'd he do when he was on the Warriors? Same thing, a structure. He just got to go out there and just shoot and play. The structure was around everybody else. But they both had structures. But the question is, it didn't look like Wizards. No because they don't- He knew when to shoot.
Starting point is 02:23:35 He knew how to get stuff going. No, it didn't look like Wizards because they don't know how to play basketball. So what it looks like for them, they're like, oh shit. Even in Warriors, some of them times, they's like, yo, hey, come on. Back door, pass, move. That was the complaint sometimes. You can't average 20-something next to Steph and not know how to play basketball. No, you can't. Are you serious?
Starting point is 02:23:53 No, you can't. Seriously. There's a whole bunch of people that don't know how to play basketball. Who's done it? That's what I'm saying. You're talking about he doesn't know how to play basketball? We're looking at it right now. He took the play spot.
Starting point is 02:24:03 He took the play spot. We're looking at it right now. No, he asked the question. He said, what player played with Steph and averaged 20 that don't know how to play basketball? We're looking at it right now. He took the right spot. Jordan Poole, we're looking at it right now. No, he asked the question. He said, what player played with Steph and averaged 20 that don't know how to play basketball? Who averaged 20 that played with Steph? Jordan Poole averaged 20? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:24:12 Yes, he did. Okay, and we see right now, he doesn't know how to play basketball. Man, you can't. They have the worst. You can't put, I mean, it's the organization. It's either you know how to play basketball. Do you like Cal Kuzma?
Starting point is 02:24:22 Huh? Do you like Cal Kuzma on the Bucs? Yes. Do you know how to play basketball? Yes. Did he know how to play basketball or you don't. Do you like Kyle Kuzma? Huh? Do you like Kyle Kuzma on the Bucs? Yes. Do you know how to play basketball? Yes. Did he know how to play basketball last year? Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 02:24:31 No. He played on the champion. You see that? See, that's crazy. You see that? You see that? The last four years with the Wizards, man, he... Hey, man, Kuzma, man, he don't pop any ball, man.
Starting point is 02:24:41 That's a real... Now he give him the Bucs, he know how to play now. That's the difference of what he's saying. That's what he's saying. That's shit. You can't... I mean, as a player like that the books. He know how to play now. That's the difference of what he's saying You can't as a player like that you gotta know how to play basketball could you play but I'll cause we always been a role player Though don't matter he on the Pool was on so he went back to the Wizards play my role again. Okay, and they sit here This is your thing now here. You're're the guy. Go do your thing. If Peyton was on that team, the Wizards would look different.
Starting point is 02:25:08 Middle, Middle. Oh, it wouldn't be winning. If Peyton and Middleton. No. Oh, Middleton just got over Peyton. Yeah, they'll be a better team. Huh? They got smart niggas.
Starting point is 02:25:19 I mean, not them, but they got players like that. They still look like the Wizards. They still the Wizards at the end of the day. Either you know how to, like Brunson, when he went to New York, because he knows how to play basketball, he understands basketball. It changed the whole thing? It changes the whole thing. When IT went to Boston, because he knows how to play the game of basketball,
Starting point is 02:25:43 he knows how to control the game of basketball. He knows how to control the game of basketball. That means he's not going to come down there and take these 55 spin, spin, chuck it up there. He's not playing that game. He's manipulating the game to make sure everybody looks good. I'm not taking, we're not going to do all this rogue type of basketball. It made the team look great. Then you have to flash. Before IT got there,
Starting point is 02:26:07 before IT got to Boston, he was in Sacramento trying to figure out because I was with other good players. He was with other good players. Who was? IT. In Sacramento? Yes.
Starting point is 02:26:23 Who he played with in Sacramento? DeMarcus Cousins. Yeah, but I think Tyreek was there, too. Tyreek Evans. So then he goes to Boston like Pritchard. I got nobody to refer to now. What do you mean? Who was on that team? Nobody.
Starting point is 02:26:37 Yes, but what I'm saying is... Nobody. Who was on his team? Hold on. They beat us. Oh, no. What about when he was on Phoenix? He got traded from Phoenix. But how
Starting point is 02:26:45 was he playing? Was he playing a wild style basketball? No, he knew how to play basketball. He knew how to play basketball. IT was never one of them. One of the niggas is the most smartest nigga. They got to adjust to you mother fucker. That's why. No, but what he's saying is IT has never been a basketball player. I'm just out here doing
Starting point is 02:27:01 whatever. He's always been in control. He just had to wait his turn. So when it came to Boston, look what happened. Boom. Like Maxie. I know how to play basketball. Like Maxie with a bunch of players knew how to play basketball. When you put him up by himself, he knows how to play basketball. He's not out
Starting point is 02:27:18 there playing rogue just for the fucking trying to play for the high line. But he is. Maxie actually was playing like Jordan Poole without Paul George, the NBA. He was out there just playing. He was out there just shooting, jumping. He was just doing his Maxie shit. He was out there being Maxie.
Starting point is 02:27:35 He was an all-star. He was an all-star. He was out there shooting. I've never seen that in my life. Tyrese, he's an all-star. It's never happened. It's never happened. He got rid of Monte Ellis. He was a bucket, right?
Starting point is 02:27:46 20. Uh-huh. And then what happened after the Warriors? You would play with him. You played with him, so it looked like he could play. So it looked like he could play. Because he was still playing, right? And he went to Dallas.
Starting point is 02:27:57 He could still play. He was in Milwaukee, right? Yeah, for sure. So, but was Monte a wild player? Or did Monte get buckets? What you mean a wild player? Like a system player? Yeah, he was an algorithm. Monte was the algorithm.
Starting point is 02:28:11 Okay. That's why it was difficult for him to go to somewhere else and not be the guy. Okay. So back to Austin Reeves quickly. We asked the chat, what is Austin Reeves ceiling? We gave them four options, All-Star, All-NBA, starter, corner dude.
Starting point is 02:28:24 58% say All-Star,-star, all-NBA, starter, corner dude. 58% say all-star. 21% say all-NBA. 18% say starter, which he already is. 3% say corner dude. So Chet seems to be of the presence of mind over what 79% think he's an all-star level player at the minimum. But let's move on to Mostly Fans presented by our good friends over at Underdog. Download the app. Use promo code GIL, get up to $1,000 in bonus cash, plus a special pickup.
Starting point is 02:28:49 Do not forget... Do not go back to being no corner nigga. Oh, he's still a corner nigga. You be a star. Hey, hey, you got to prepare. He's a corner nigga. All right, who is? Don't listen to the people that don't wear it. Who's a corner guy?
Starting point is 02:29:02 He's a starter. Who's a corner guy? Yeah, no just... His starter. Who's the corner guy? Yeah, nah, yeah, he graduated. I'm sorry. He graduated from the corner with honors. But we have one question. It's a video question from underdog user D Smith. So I'm getting married at the end of the month down here in South Florida.
Starting point is 02:29:20 And I want to ask you guys, what advice do you have for fellas getting married for the first time? I know on the couch we have some Forever Bachelors. We have some recently married folks. Congrats, Gil. And some other folks married for a little bit longer. So what advice do you have for fellas getting married for the first time? By the way, Josiah, you're more than merely a host.
Starting point is 02:29:38 Feel free to chip in. And all y'all invited, I threw the details in the email. Take care and stay blessed. So Dee Smith getting married at the details of the email. Take care. Stay blessed. So D. Smith getting married at the end of the month in South Florida. We are invited to D. Smith's wedding. If you can't come, just send me a plate, D. Smith. Send me a plate.
Starting point is 02:29:57 I'm getting married at the end of the month. He wants any advice on getting married. Thank you, D. Smith, for saying I'm more than merely a host. I am a movie star now as well, Thank you, D. Smith, for saying I'm more than merely a host. I am a movie star now as well. As you guys know. Oh, for me? You know, I was raised right because I got 14 years
Starting point is 02:30:15 by the same woman, been with her since high school. You just got to be able to go through the ups and downs and know what you want at the end of the day. Like, I know I want my woman. I knew where I was going to come back to. And yeah, man, you can be with somebody. You can't leave after every little fight or whatever,
Starting point is 02:30:35 you know, jumping in and shit, you know, because there's nothing out there, man. So stick through it through the hard times because you don't want to be going from place to place, you know. When you got a good thing, you know, a family Stick through it through the hard times, because you don't want to be going from place to place. When you got a good thing, a family is like the best thing to have. It's your backbone.
Starting point is 02:30:52 It's made me feel like I'm a champion, just going home to my kids every day. They get to see me every day. My mom and dad did it. That's what I knew growing up. My mom and dad was married for 50 years, so same kids by the same woman. I'm just an example of a good black man.
Starting point is 02:31:11 So D Smith getting some championship advice. I feel like an episode of Sally Jessie Raphael. Hey, take it back. You funny. You funny. I ain't going to give it to you. You funny. You funny. Swaggy, man, people have to go pick up.
Starting point is 02:31:28 He's coming from school right now. Go ahead. Me? I mean, my advice, man, just keep God first. Make sure you guys are compatible. And make sure you guys are working towards something together. I think that's the biggest thing. If you have a business and you can help her start a business and you guys can grow as each other,
Starting point is 02:31:45 because the more money you guys make together, the easier it is. Do you have your advice? I got it, go ahead. Larry, do you have advice for D Smith as he embarks on this next stage in his life? We are invited, dude. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm.
Starting point is 02:32:07 Hmm. Hmm. And we are invited, D. Honestly, don't tempt us, because I will have underdog fly us out to the wedding. We do like events. We hate people, but love gatherings. I just want to be the guy in charge of the bachelor party. That's it.
Starting point is 02:32:21 That makes sense. That's it. D. Smith gift shot. Excuse me, Larry. Because that's going to fuck around and get the divorce anyway. So we're. That's it. De Smith gift shot up. Excuse me, Larry. Because that's going to fuck around and get the divorce anyway. So we're going to figure it all out. We're all going to be kumbaya-ing all the time. That's why niggas don't like to have me do the bachelor party, because they just still
Starting point is 02:32:34 want to be married after me. They'll be like, why? You see how we live on this night? This is an every night thing. What you getting married for, nigga? That makes sense. Shit. See that?
Starting point is 02:32:44 Look at you. You're all stressed out and shit. Every time you come over here for the bachelor party, you want to stay and shit. Saturdays, I give him a fucking phone call. Ring, ring, ring. Man, why you don't pick up, bro? You know I'm married.
Starting point is 02:32:55 Mm-hmm. You'll need this weekend, man. Come on, man. Same hoes. That makes sense. Run it back. Run it back. I mean, he makes it. Ball up top. Ball sense. Run it back. Ball up top.
Starting point is 02:33:08 Ball up fucking top, Joe. It's coming soon. We got to play for your heart every fucking weekend. We got to play for your heart. I'm going to dunk on your ass. Shoot your shot. You better not miss. I'm telling you.
Starting point is 02:33:24 Ball up top. Y'all want some advice, I'll tell you. He dunked on her for game. He said double or nothing. Double or nothing. He's a minister. Yeah, he was sitting courtside with me. You seen him. You seen him.
Starting point is 02:33:37 You seen him. Don't get married until it's time, nigga. You never know who outside your door talking about, let's shoot. Let's shoot for your love. Nigga, you better go to that window and see who outside ready to shoot for your shot, nigga. Married, nigga. See it.
Starting point is 02:33:54 That message sponsored by Rock Dog. You want somebody you know needs a five-pack of Rock Porch Holler at. Holler at me. Dog. Just chill, man. Get a laugh and not lose yourself. What was the question?
Starting point is 02:34:06 Nick, I hate you. Shut up. He said, I'm getting married at the end of the month in South Florida. Any advice? This comes from D. Smith. We are all invited to the wedding. Any advice for being married? Of course.
Starting point is 02:34:15 Any advice as he embarks on this next phase of his life? She's your queen to be. Nah, that's it. That's the one. I think some of us just need to stay off the internet. This reminds me of people who got doctor in front of their name, but they're not doctors. You got relationship coaches, but they're not in relationships.
Starting point is 02:34:37 Are single to the front. This motherfucker right here just talked about what you need to do to be married, because his parents been married 50 years. He ain't married. He ain't married. He ain't engaged. This motherfucker ain't nothing.
Starting point is 02:34:51 He in the streets with me. Oh, I had to leave him. I had to leave. I said, no, nigga. I got a ring right here. I'm married. Huh? This is married. Let me see them goddamn knuckles that you got. That ring going down to the altar.
Starting point is 02:35:09 Yes, sir. Be in there. Be right next to your wife. This is my wife. You get married for a ring? That makes you married? My wife right here. See, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:35:18 Your husband is happy and feel like. Yeah, nah. Tell him. He still says my girlfriend. A ring makes you crazy. He still says my girlfriend. She a girl. She ain't even a woman. She ain't even your woman. Tell him. He still says my girlfriend. A ring makes you crazy. He still says my girlfriend. He still says my girlfriend.
Starting point is 02:35:26 She a girl. She ain't even no woman. She ain't even your woman. My family. He says my family. Nah, nah, nah. Like sister? I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 02:35:34 Like your sister? I'm not going to lie. I got her ass Mrs. Arenas in my home. You took your mic off. Mrs. Arenas. Yep, Mrs. Arenas. Let me see. Let me see your phone.
Starting point is 02:35:42 Let's see what you got. What's her name under? We're going to see. Yeah, let's see what you got. What's her name under? Oh, first let's see what my theme is. You see that? That's family. Family. Family.
Starting point is 02:35:50 What about, wait, where the camera at? Straight ahead over there, yeah. Right there? You see that? It may be a little blur. It may be a little blur. So if the work see it, anybody see it. They see it.
Starting point is 02:35:58 Boom. They see the family. What mine say? Family. Miss Serena. Let's see what her name is. Mine say Miss Serena. Miss Serena. Yep, Miss Serena see the family. What might I say? Family. Miss Arena. Let's see what her name is. Might I say Miss Arena. Miss Arena.
Starting point is 02:36:06 Yep, Miss Arena's in there. What that fucking say? Kiana Young Green. Thank you, mother fucker! Kiana Green. Yeah! Her name is Kiana Green. Yeah! Ain't got shit to hide. That's your girlfriend. That's my woman. Yeah, that's your girlfriend.
Starting point is 02:36:21 Can I see my phone? I'm gonna put Jenin's... My girl, David, you got her number. Cajun Jennings. Who ain't got a screen saver? To your microphone. Who ain't got a screen saver? Boom, right there. Let me see.
Starting point is 02:36:34 Right there. You learned from me. Oh, yeah, right there. We're going to see what her name is. What's the name right there at the top? Wife. Wife? Damn. Don't even know her name no more? Wife. Wife! Damn.
Starting point is 02:36:45 Don't even know her name no more. Wife! That's on you, man. That's on you. Let me tell you what I got. Keanu Green name in here. That's what I'm talking about. That's the shit.
Starting point is 02:36:54 That's the shit on the street. That's the shit on the street. That's the shit on the street. That's the shit on the street. That's the shit on the street. That's the shit on the street. That's the shit on the street. That's the shit on the street.
Starting point is 02:37:02 That's the shit on the street. That's the shit on the street. That's the shit on the street. That's the shit on the street. What Smith. What is her name? The moral of the story here. That's the shit on the street. What's your name? What's your name? That's what I know him from. That's what we used to call him.
Starting point is 02:37:18 Dee Smith, moral of the story. Please don't ask Gil's Arena for relationship, marriage advice. But appreciate your swag. We got one last piece of business before we go for the day. We are still doing our Gillian subscriber giveaway. I am proud to announce that the Gills Arena YouTube channel has over 980,000 subscribers. Strong.
Starting point is 02:37:37 980. We are 20 away from a Gillian, ladies and gentlemen. That means we're giving out $3,000 on this show right now.

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