Gil's Arena - Gilbert Arenas UNLOADS Another Hostile Take On Towns

Episode Date: June 6, 2025

Gilbert Arenas DOUBLES DOWN ON His Hostile Karl Anthony Towns Take as Gil & The Gil's Arena Crew react to the discourse rocking the internet surrounding Gil's viral take on Karl Anthony Towns' defense and clarify what he meant while roasting the Big Bodega. They also react to Adam Silver confirming the NBA's decision to change the All Star Game to a USA vs the World format and debate once again if this is the right call to add some juice to the NBA's failing mid-season showcase of talent. Next, they continue to examine the big offseason ahead for Giannis Antetokounmpo as the Greek Freak decides if he wants to continue his career with the Milwaukee Bucks and react to Shaquille O'Neal's advice to Giannis, telling him to stay in Cream City because nobody cares about what market he plays in. Finally, Gil's Arena Previews Game 1 of the NBA Finals where Tyrese Haliburton & The Indiana Pacers take on Shai Gilgeous-Alexander & The OKC Thunder in a small market Super Bowl. They give their predictions on who will win the series and highlight key matchups that will define the NBA Championship, before gicing their reaction to Coach K crowning Cooper Flagg as the greatest player in Duke history. Please give us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Swaggy P, Rashad McCants & Kenyon Martin Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Credits and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... If you’re 21+, try VIIA! For 15% off AND a free gift with your first order go to https://viia.co/GIL and use code GIL! #viiapartner Fetch a FREE Jumpstart Trial Bag for your Dog. Go to https://ruffgreens.com/arena and use promo code ARENA Use our code for 10% off your next SeatGeek order https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/ARENA10 Sponsored by SeatGeek. Restrictions apply. Max $20 discount Join the Playback chat to interact with Gil and Josiah https://www.playback.tv/gilbertarenas SUBSCRIBE:    / @gilsarena   Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos!   / discord   0:00:00 2 Min Countdown 0:01:55 Show Start 0:06:38 Gil DOUBLES DOWN On His KAT Take 0:21:39 Adam Silver Confirms USA Vs The World All Star 0:52:19 Underdog Of The Week 0:58:07 Shaq Gives Advice To Giannis 1:33:03 How It Felt Playing In The Finals 1:53:51 Gil's Arena Previews The NBA Finals Refs 2:00:47 The Small Market Superbowl 2:09:25 NBA Finals Preview 2:25:58 Finals & Finals MVP Picks 2:31:21 MostlyFans Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Listen, can you just quick cat up? It didn't just be educated on cat himself. It's him. It's his physical makeup. Long legs, short torso, big ass feet. There's nothing he can do. He's built like a whole fucking bitch. He's built like a whole fucking bitch

Built like a girl yes girl hips he's like a full WNBA player As a reminder the views are not those of underdog or any of our other employers or advertisers Are solely those of Gilbert arenas? You can you clarify what you meant about car Anthony? Tell you guys say about that after all that come on. I mean it seems pretty clear It is clarified We was talking about you know him not be able to play defense they was frustrated with him and I'm saying well if you think about his makeup as a

basketball player is actually the opposite of how a basketball Male should be right where you know, you got a him small torso long legs Right small torso long legs Right But the big feet what girl got big big feet, right? I just that's just ass to it

All right, you got Mary J Blige hips to the knees, right? So they came in every comes from injuries, right? So what I'm saying is hold is correct. You probably don't like the way I said Oh Mary J. Blige. He saved Mary Mary J. Got the knee here This race over here Hold on. Did he say Mary J? Mary J got the, yeah. It means hip. To the knee. Mom, look over here. This ratio to here. Mercy! History of women's basketball.

I was saying WNBA, like if, in the history of women's basketball, they have ACL tears because they're hip to knee ratio, right? It's wide and boom. So that's why they have ACL tears, right? And you know, when you look at the makeup, if anybody has, and you look up a model, when you're looking for the ideal model,

woman model, it would be exactly what I said. Small torso, long legs. Unfortunately, I spotted it. And that's why I said, well, physically, maybe he just can't keep up because of the structure of his body. And you know, he's a good player, but just, you know, give him relax on the defense.

He just can't move the way he would like to move. So you were saying that in support of Kat. I was supporting him. Based on his structural integrity. Yes. Okay. You see how that word like, yo, hey, relax. You know, it ain't him. It's not like he's not giving no effort. It's just, you know, structurally he's not built the way, you know.

You know, you got 45 feet, man. You ain't moving left or right like that or front to back, you know. And then we're, you know. And, and, and, and it's a know it was And then you know he's gained weight he's gained weight a little bit so I'm gonna go home if you stop No, no, I'm just saying but you know It's not like I just threw this shit out there. I literally was watching You said he didn't got 45 feet. 45 feet. Don't say looks, man. Yeah, because his legs are high. His legs are little.

That's why the shoes really look big on him. Like little ankle? No, they are big. If you look at anybody that's supposed to have 20s, it only looks big on him because his legs are little. And then he's a little older, so he's got the heavy top.

So he's top heavy. You got a muffin top. Yeah, he got the muffin top, right? Little wisdom tooth thing going on. So this is just a lot of things going on with him. Little wisdom tooth. Little wisdom tooth, you know what I mean? Little wisdom tooth.

He hit him with three. So I'm saying, so stop. Mary Jane Blind. Hip to knee. Oh, what up, man? Let me stop. Let me stop egging this boy, old man. They gonna run so many videos. Let me stop, man. Mary Jane Blind. I'm just saying motherfucking to step with the hip to me. the structure. Yeah, you are. Oh shit. That's what it's called. The 1990s. I'm going to.

I just I didn't want to be all fucked up. Am I off here? And then I typed in, you know, is Carl Anthony appropriate? Is he appropriate to a man or a woman? It said he's seven foot tall with very long legs and a narrow frame compared to mine Like in bead or shaggy. Yeah. Yeah. He does have a high waistline Which makes his torso appear small on the court that

Mixed with his upright vertical posture gives him a little somebody come take this mic off posture gives him a little somebody come take this mic off probably what gives off the oddly proportion of model walk energy you know I don't know why you're bringing it am I just making it up this according to Chad GP I'm trying to tell you secret model Chad GBT say He did catwalk. Please don't read the Translation and then on on the WNBA side. It was more of this So a basketball player

When you're a coordinated basketball player right when we when we get the ball, we pivot on our leg, and you know, this is our free leg, so we can, this is where our power comes from when we're pushing off. For some reason, women's basketball, from even a small age, it's opposite. They stand on their right leg to go like this. He does the same thing.

So I was like, Oh, you play like that's where that comes in. I think we got video of it. Just in case so people can see it. Right. Look, good. Do you think you're right? Look, no, that's normal. There you go.

You see that? And then drop his right foot. Yeah, that's what I said. That's the W.A you go. You see that? Yeah, that's what I said. That's the WNBA. That's like Wimbledon's basketball tips. Yeah.

There's more. I don't know if they put it up there. We had to go all the way to Asia for those video clips. Right? Look at that. It was so funny. You could call and travel on him every time. Like I even called to see if he was right. Right? Look. Like he traveled it was so funny you can call it trouble on him every time like I even Called to see if he was right right look just it's awkward. Okay. That's why he looks awkward because He's on the wrong leg. No pounds and whoop your ass

Huh? I would like to see that I'm just doing a research look at this awkward that boy right there got block work They thought they thought Michael Jackson couldn't fight neither. I'm just saying I'm just going off man. I'm just doing the research. Look, it's awkward. That boy right there got block work. They thought Michael Jackson couldn't fight, neither. I'm just going off of research. It's unorthodox. I was trying to figure out if he's actually left-handed that just shoots right. That would make sense. That would make sense because he plays like he's... That's why he loves driving left. I was like,

shit, maybe he's just actually left-handed and just plays basketball right. But I'm not the only one that noticed that he, I think we got a, if you need the cleaner version, can you play Winnie, please? Damn. Brian? Oh, I don't have it.

Oh, you don't have it? Okay, we was playing Brian. They're playing up in the back. Brian Windhorse, I believe? Oh, you don't have it? Okay. We was playing. We were Brian a wind horse. I believe it went horse. He actually pointed it out to that the reason his game is so awkward because he did long legs short torso, but he said two players are like that. He said him and Tyrese is both built the same.

Who? It was Hallenberg. Hmm. I can't I can't see it on him, but I spotted that on Kat Quik. You do play a little odd. Yo, the chat pointed out this is likely a mandatory fade between you and Kat. Yeah, for sure. You have ventured in the beef stew range.

Why is he fading with me? I'm just telling you what's going to happen. Like the Dominican said I couldn't come to Dyckman. I'll help you ready. You're not allowed to Dyckman. And I don't even know, like sometimes you got to be careful on what you say because you know what I mean? I didn't know where it was coming from and you throw out Dykeman and I'm like, it's

a good excuse. You got to choose your word carefully. That just doesn't them two words, them two words separate makes for a funny argument. It just makes for a funny conversation. Well, yeah, the Gil don't go out, y'all. So Gil could never go to Dyke. I'm like, Dyke? Man, that's hilarious.

And I'm like, why can't I go there? Here's the thing. They try to send a message through me to reach to him. Oh. And what was that message, son? Whatever message they want to get out, when they see me, they say, hey. Tell Gil.

What? Hey, I just know there ain't been no shots or nothing yet. Whatever message they want to get out when they see me they say hey tell Gil Ain't been no shots or nothing yet. No throwing no tomatoes But yeah, they waiting to hey man. We have a Dominican I had a whole bunch of Spanish people in my chat. I don't know what was going on. No, I guess because you know It's all in Spanish. So I was I don't know what to talk about So I didn't know they was the Dominicans. Please don't make it so that I can't go back to my no what I'm saying is I don't know the Dominicans I'm like what did I do to y'all? That is Dominican. I know he's Dominican but I didn't say nothing about Dominican I'm like I thought the people who should be mad is men with short toes soles and long legs

Yo Dominican people take their structural integrity very seriously. Cool. But you should only be mad if you are small waist or high waist, long legs. Yeah, his daddy gonna have a problem with it. The Africans last time I tried to fuck with him. His daddy gonna feel some type of way. You are not only not good in several cities across America,

but also countries, entire continents. I was, I was trying to give him an out on why his defense was lacking this year so the rest of the team don't have to be frustrated. Well we will see. Wait how come I say that y'all mad but when they call him what's the name that they give him? Big Bodega? No no no no no. Oh. When they see him walk around. Juana? No. Yeah. Right, they call him what? What was it?

Zesty, Zesty Carl, that's fine. Why? That's fine. His voice, his voice. But that's fine. So that's okay. Y'all can go in. It's funny, that's funny.

Everybody done called him Zesty, that's fine. You can't call the man the big old big. What I said, he look like a model from the bag. I, I. What's wrong with me? Model with big feet. This is big mama. call him a big ol' big ol' He look like a model from the bag I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I You definitely got a bad body when you watch the game and you're doing oh, yeah Yeah, definitely feel like somebody when you watch the game and you're doing a oh, yeah Yeah, definitely feel like somebody's auntie. They call me they call me suspect. I was like I'm drinking my mother run across another This is co-ed oh

Bigger damn, you know gives really insane than just yourself, we have to live here as well. I didn't say nothing. We go out into society. I didn't say nothing wrong. Yes, you did. I didn't say he was the B word. You don't talk about him. I'm not saying him as a person.

You don't talk about my team. Is the B. But you said not a half or a sum of a B, but a whole B word. A whole, whole, whole fucking bitch. And I'm still keeping order not him as a man just he said skip just whole shit just what just fuck the assessment this boy's crazy y'all pointed out the past it's a workout

get to like i didn't do none of that yeah you just did it hey i didn't do none of that right so all of that so all y so all your means we made that no look I'll get away with that. That's who is doing is I do some shit Yeah Apologize that you didn't get all your father's attributes, but just size the height. You know, sometimes we just make little pants. What work walking around with 20-size feet?

That's what he got from his daddy. I'm not going there, no. Not on duty. He's been through too much. So do we have that Winnhurst clip ready? All right, let's see. You got it? How would you describe Cat as someone who's just getting into basketball?

He's an awkward guy. Actually Cat and Halliburton have the same feature. They have a very high waist. That's what scouts will talk about. Towns is going to look a little awkward because he has very long legs relative to your average NBA player. Because he falls awkwardly. He does things awkwardly.

So you see a guy who plays that way and then he has sort of unusual mannerisms for an NBA player. You know, the way he talks and the way he makes his facial expressions. You put all that together and you have a guy who's just a little bit awkward. But he's super duper crazy talented. And here's the other thing. The guy just absolutely puts up statistics. You don't fall backwards into the all-in the 18. Okay? That's how I would describe them. I don't know if you agree or not.

Super duper talented. Okay, so we're going to replace my word to describe them and then we're going to use Brian's. Awkward. It's very awkward. Unorthodox perhaps. Unorthodox. No. Yeah, I've always said this game is disgusting. And I've always, but he get it done though. Right? So that was always been my, like to watch him play, you like, ooh, but you look at the stat sheet,

and it's like, all right. And when he's shooting through this, you're like, all right. So you don't fall backwards to all NBA teams. I mean, no, it has nothing to do with it. It can't do that to tennis. No, what I'm saying, it has nothing to do with his talent. I mean, he's nice. I'm just saying that he's a hell of a basketball player.

Don't worry about the defense. Leave him alone on the defense. I think the moral of the story, beyond everything you said, is just leave him alone about the defense. Yeah. That's all that matters. That's where we should clip that part, please clip that part, but let's keep defending I'm defending his defense I know defending And they get mad they get strong, you know, the hood girls make it strong them hood girl

Yeah, they real big at the top big at the top. Grab your ass, you're gonna be shut up. And moving onward, moving onward. They all structurally like this, you know what I mean? You know, they try to run. So let's get to something that Commissioner Adam Silver said yesterday. There's some chatter about tinkering with the All-Star Game format for next season. We discussed this a bit last week when Yana tweeted about it. During the interview with the Breakfast Ball crew on FS1, the commission provided some insight on the potential new format for the 2026 All-Star Game, which will be right here in Los Angeles. Yes.

So next year, as part of our new media deal, is the All-Star Game returns to NBC. OK. Yeah. Yeah. We need it. I agree. Next season will be smack in the middle of the Winter Olympics.

So in fact, the game will be on NBC. And the very day after that, it will be the leading. We're running back from the top. Yes. in fact, the game will be on NBC. And the very day we're on, there'll be the lead-in. We're running back from the top. Yes. It's NBA finals day. We are preoccupied getting ready for this. Returns to NBC where it was when we were younger. Yes.

So next year, as part of our new media deals, the All-Star game returns to NBC where it was when we were younger. And it so happens that next season will be smack in the middle of the Winter Olympics. So in fact, the game will be on NBC and the very day we're on, the lead-in will be Winter Olympic events and then coming out of the All-Star game, which is not going to be in the afternoon, instead of the evening, there'll be more Olympic events. So what better time to feature some form of USA against the world? I'm not exactly sure what the format

will be yet. I mean, obviously paid a lot of attention to what the NHL did with the... Which was a huge success. ... which was a huge success. The Frozen Four. That was awesome. It was great. But also, you know, going back, you know, last summer, our Olympic competition was a huge success. I mean, those games, USA, Serbia, USA, France...

I love watching it. And by the way, to your point about the European style, a more physical style basketball, a 40-minute game which I will reference again. You love the 40-minute game. I just said it happened to be a 40-minute game in the Olympics. But yeah, we're not changing it. But it was, but I think that's another example. So there you have it for the commissioner himself. Is the USA versus the world format the right call for the All-Star game son? I'll ask you first. I know what gills gonna say Okay, I

Think we've predicted this I remember saying let's push this narrative because See it happen before the next Olympics and here we are 2026 World Vs USA exactly how we wanted to be panned out exactly how we want to see it so just Shastradhaman is doing Shastradhaman shit as usual. Shastradhaman strikes again Canyon what do you think about Silver saying US vs the world format NBC another part two that the game will air in the afternoon. I just think it's another gimmick.

So like I said the other day, we talked about it today, it's just another gimmick in my opinion. So I'm not with it. Whatever they gonna do is they gonna do. So like this past one, I did not something else. And therefore next February, I will have something else to do on that Sunday.

Celebrate Black History Month. I don't know, I kinda like it. Swaggy, you like the USA versus the world format for the All-Star game? I like it and I don't like it. I feel like for All-Star weekend is gonna make them work too hard for all-star weekend Cuz they don't want to win they gonna want to play nobody gonna want to lose I felt like

But I feel like right now they The world might in my whip our ass next to the all-star game. I don't want to see that. Obviously the international is very fun. Y'all is an old motherfuckin' joker. Turn it up. Turn it up for real for one day. One night only. All players are hurt right now. One night only.

For one night only. Watch us turn up on the USA. Our players are hurting old. One ticket? Our players are hurting old. I wish that ticket would are hurting old. You know how much that ticket gonna cost to the All-Star game, they promote that. We will be there in a suite, courtesy of Underdog. Woo woo.

Not a really good one. Them first five, that first five. Luca, Yannis, Joke. Oh my God. Stop. Coby got no Kyrie, right? No Tatum. No MB. We don't have AD.

AD on the way. Bam. They are big. And I didn't even say nothing about my monster. My monster. They ain't gonna have to have that. They ain't gonna need hips. You gonna need hips. My monster. They didn't go at the hat. They didn't go knee-hips. Wimby-nyana. You go knee-hips. That'd be up there. Wimby-nyana. You go knee-hips out there, hip-hitting.

Well, technically, Kat could be eligible to play on the international team. Wow. Give us ties to the Dominican Republic. Wimby joker Yanis, Luca Shea. Canadian is actually kind of. No, it's not. He is North American, but world.

It's the world. That is a separate country. You need a passport to enter. It's over. It's over. You got a Hollenberg and fucking. Hollenberg. Hollenberg.

Hollenberg. Gil, now you're not a fan of this in the past, but after hearing Adam Silver explain the logic and rationale behind it Winter Olympics the game on NBC Does that change your opinion in the slightest about a USA versus the world format for an all-star game? No, it doesn't change my mind because because...

the idea is them to play hard, right? That's the idea, to be more competitive. No matter if it's USA vs USA, Mikko in with 6 euros to play hard. Yoksae vs Hardy, they don't wanna play hard, they don't wanna play hard. What makes Jokic play yet, Hardy? Sabonis hasn't played hardy is that yet. Siakam hasn't played hard yet. Right? So the guys that we are wanting to see the USA against, they yet.

Right? So the guys that we are wanting to see the USA against, they haven't gave two shits either because they don't want to be there just like nobody else. They want the vacay their season so they have middle of getting ready for the second half of their season. So they haven't given no effort either. Like I can say, if all the euros is out there going balls to the wall. Yeah.

But don't this get even worse? Like, what are we talking about here? But don't this give you like a, like this is good. The problem that they're having is, their format goes against what they're looking for. When you're talking format goes against what they're looking for. When you're talking about the format of 12, right? Or even if you got four teams of eight like it's five it's five guard how to get or it's five four and three so they got to try to figure out how to get the top heavy euros for all

those go though those players to make it so they they're worrying about the format change the whole format and that's what they're having a problem with only this is how it's been done so they got to change the whole format and that's what they're having a problem with. Only, this is how it's been done. So they gotta change the whole format. And that's what they're having a problem with. That's why he can't give you no details because that's what they're talking about. Like, what do we do? Do we say seven fucking centers game? Four power fours and then we have the two guards here.

Are they gonna make the all-star game? Do we go with the traditional four to six guards, four to six wings? Do we do six and six? They are actually having a problem with trying to figure out the structure for it to actually make sense. And Kenyon, like you pointed out, last year's all-star game, not the NBA's best offering.

Difficult to watch at points. That's what it is. Four teams of four, including the Rising Stars winner, who were elevated to play in that mix. Yeah. To give us point of guys not going to play hard. They're not going to play hard. There's

they haven't been good in these games. They have been good in these games. And I like I said, the guys that go out and play hard. They are trying to get MVP. All right. That's just what it is. Like, you can tell from the very all hell out here

and all this to whenever the wins to are there on that scene. All having to go to this game. This bullshit. Sonny. Sonny. How many times did we do the format

where LeBron is the captain and the other guy's the captain and they get to pick their own All-Star team? I think we did about three or four times a month. Three or four years in a row. Because they kept the guy. Nothing. You know why? Last. And they went out there and did like last. So it was a buddy system that they started. So listen to me carefully. These are what you're saying. We excluding the euros who wasn't getting picked like top of that four years straight What are we doing well, well you're over in that well you're over in that Could get picked but this is what I'm saying. We sat through six years of what the fuck is going on with the All-Star game. We sat through six years of what the fuck is going on with the All-Star game.

Now we're not noticing it. We're gonna forget about that. That didn't exist. Now we're seeing here talking about another gimmick. Another gimmick. Which we had a six year gimmick. Six years. No one had a problem with it.

When everybody wasn't playing hard, we was really complaining like, what's wrong with these dudes? That's when it started. Then we come with this last year shit, they had to try to change it up. Just try to figure it out. No, no, no, we're gonna keep coming in here and doing this kind of shit.

Cause look man, fuck it. Now they like, all right, look, play against these guys. Cause we seeing that they coming in here with a whole different kind of vibe. All-star game. Very hard. Hey, did you ever ask yourself the reason that those heroes got picked last?

No. So, my thing, I saw this thing. So, this is the thing. If they're going to play real basketball, right? And not an all-star game, but you think they're picking Nikola last? No. I would never know, man. People may really know. Alright, so, don't. Nikola Yoki's winning the second round. If make really dumb decisions. Alright, so don't

Nikola Yoki's winning the second round and he goes to the second round. Alright, so don't basketball players know do they all know about it? Basketball players do, Gems don't. So, a lot of those guys are going to pick them. So, if it's a real basketball game being played as they

stood, right? So, if it's a real basketball game being played as they stood right we picked so if it's real basketball game being played as they stood right We pick on the team where this shit means something. He's not going like that I can tell you isn't that game so he went last cuz it didn't mean that because they know I was last Because in that game cuz he don't play hard. Yes Everybody else proceeds making sense to me because that's what they are. Okay, so what? Making sense to me because that's what they are. Okay, so why they didn't pick them before they wanted me to understand Yeah, so they could have picked up before they wanted me to You're not picking me because I'm not cool with they wanted me to

You're not picking me because I'm not cool with y'all y'all don't like me We all know what it really is I'm with you. It's not exciting. It's not exciting. We all know what it really is, bro. It was Buddy's buddy for six years. What's the Joker gonna do that for his life? I dig it.

Yeah. If you're not playing it hard, you can still be exciting. Who is he having fun with out there when he out there? Oh, he was second to last. All-star game. Who is he having fun with? Joker and Lucas. The lawyer, Laurie Martin was the last.

They would love to be on the same team. When they out there on the same team, they out there just fucking around. They was on the same team. Who? I'm not digging where he pulled off. Hey. In 20 minutes. It was the last they would love to be on the same when they out there on the same Fucking around Minutes

Sixes is he for 20 minutes? I don't think so maybe so so the person who got picking I know so the person who got picked second to last what was the stats? Yoke it stacked in the 2023 NBA All-Star game. We got picked second to last four What was the stats? Yoke is stacked in the 2023 NBA All-Star game. We got picked second to last. Four points, five rebounds, six assists. That's not even playing hard. Now the one who got picked last, what was his stats? Laurie Markkinen.

Let me see. He shouldn't even be in that much. Finnish, also international player. 13 points, seven rebounds. So he played hard. Yeah. Right? he was on team Lebron. So I'm pretty sure as a basketball player you know who is gonna

take it serious and who's not. Right? And he's been picked last because they know he don't care. You know he don't care about getting picked first or last. He's getting ready for the second half of the season. He know he's not no matter how he plays he's not gonna win an MVP because it's not structured for the second half of the season. He know he's not no matter how he plays. He's not going to win an MVP because it's not structured for him to win it. He know them guards gonna come down there firing that motherfucker from full court. So he's gonna be running for no damn reason.

So he's not even gonna go out there and waste his time. This is not the old school where Gary Payton and Jason Kitter coming down there giving it to the big fella. Right? Where, ah shit, no. These motherfuckers shooting from half court.

Nine out of ten times. So the big man ain't getting it. All he can do is fucking rebound the ball. And he ain't kicking it live. So he's sitting there like, shit, I'm going from three point line to three point line. You ain't throwing them alive to dump them, motherfucker. So of course you're going to get picked alive. The Rows don't play like that.

That's what I'm saying. It's not exciting. No, it was going to be picked a lot. The rows don't play like that. That's what I'm saying. It's not. It was going to be a different game. That's why they pick my eyes. It's going to be a different game. It's still on the structure. Like we still got to wait till they get to the structure.

And is it going to be normal structure where it's certain amount of guards, amount of wings and your two centers, but they don't say it's two centers, but they always have two centers. Right. Or is it going to be four teams like it was last All-Star game with two international and you're two sinners, but they don't say it's two sinners, but they always have two sinners, right? Or is it gonna be four teams like it was last All-Star game with two international teams, two U.S. teams? Or is it gonna be, don't worry about our fucking roster, you worry about yours. Don't worry about who we pick, worry about who you pick.

Because if you scared, say you fucking scared of us. Say you scared. Say you scared. Say you scared. Say you scared. No, because what happened? I wanna hear all this moving the goal post-siffling. It you scared. Say you scared. You got to hear it, young. Say you scared. No, no, because what happened? I want to hear all this moving the goal post-siffling. It's not. Line it up.

See, that's what I said, you're lining up. But there's a structure. No matter what you say, there's a format that they're having a problem with. So if you're going to take off the format and say we get to pick our own players, now you're talking about a whole different team. Because now you don't have to go to this format.

So somebody like Booker, where our first five guards are Now you're talking about a whole different team. Because now you don't have to go to this format. So somebody like Booker, where our first five guards are taken, and then he has more votes from reserve than one of the forwards, but the forward needs to be put into place because he's the top four forward. Right? So there's a reason, there's a snub list. Some of these guys that are getting snub is because it's too thick. They are in the positions already taken.'s gonna continue to happen because there ain't nothing gonna change

You can tell you to get snubbed So okay sit down and move around when we pick you we pick you if we don't we don't we lining up against these dudes If you don't fit the fucking bill man, chill out. Okay, we're trying to beat these euros Six six monsters over here. We need to match up with them You get your snub you get snubbed Y'all have to figure out who y'all gonna be we got six monsters We not worried about who snubbed over there. Y'all gotta figure that out. It's 12 players But y'all gotta figure that out. It's 12 players

Well, well, so play your best 12 No, it's the format cuz you're telling people to get snubbed. So now we say alright, you got seven centers pick your three Right, you know to me you can't put all can't name 12 No, you can't you're not safe you it where you feel safe. You're not safe. You're not going to be safe. There's no way to shape it where you're safe. So you're going to pick, you're picking six more just to feel, it's going to be a team thing. Do you want the top ten based on last season? You can go Yannis, SGA, Jokic.

Go Luka, go Wimby, Shangoon. Three centers. SGA if I didn't mention it. I'm sorry. Subonis. Can't go with that. Yakam. You can go him. Marketing. Shangoon three centers SGA if I didn't mention I'm sorry sub bonus marketing why can't you go to bonus center he's gonna do whatever it is I don't care. Why are you arguing? It doesn't matter. I'm just saying. Here is the problem. When we can play the point guard, let's try it again. So for the people who don't understand the format that they're having a problem with, not fucking me, their format, five guards, four small fours, three centers at best.

If they go six fours, then you get two centers at best if they go six forwards then you get two centers at best there's no four centers there's always a two or three pick how you want to pick you can have three centers the all-star game format right right I just told you to for this right now they drafted teams so it was a 24 player pool for the three the three all-star teams in the rising stars Before this last one what was it was it position this is a five guards Before the five are so it's four to six guards four to six So if you go six guards, then you go six wings, that's 12 with centers That's that's wings, but they're only means are them they're there because they're position is because they're positional. Okay, so what?

But they pick two centers. No, they're not putting We can put in the centers as wins. We can have five centers. All you're up. They're only taking, no. You can't, they're only taking two people that are actually considered sinners. They got 12 centers. Alex Sars, Arisha Shay. They got all big names.

Give them a look. You know you can't believe he's on the Jamaican basketball team. You're going to have to. If you're having a problem with it, just go through in here and go now. You can't believe he's on his Jamaican basketball team Problem with it just go through it here Now I've already did I've already went through it already asked me like Dylan Brooks gonna be on it, huh? Dylan Brooke like the door to chamber Lou Dorda Somebody like him I have to be on the team. But that's what I said.

They're trying to figure out how to create a team and they're throwing the idea of All-Star. So it would take away from the All-Star then. It won't be an All-Star. That's what I'm dying. And then he messing up people with him. Why you see he can't explain. We want A-Min Thompson in the Zarkin Cup too.

They can't explain. But that's probably going to work. What's going to happen? It's an All-Star game. Where you're going to put A-Min Thompson. You're going to take A-Min. We'll be at an All-Star level next year anyway. No, no. You're going to what's going to happen. It's an all-star game. Where you're going to put the, you're going to put A-Man Thompson, you're going to take, uh, We'll be at an all-star level next season anyway. You're going to take him, you're going to go Jordan Poole. I mean, not Jordan Poole, but, uh, Utah.

Um, Jordan Clarkson, right? You're going to start, you're going to, because you got to, you got to feel your five guard. Well, feeling with the Filipinos. Getting green. Yeah. That's, you know, so that's what's going to happen. Clark's made the All-Star game.

That's what they're having issues with, because there's a format. Like the idea of what everybody wants, but there's a format. How many centers do the Americans have? Let's see about that. What American? What pigs? Centers.

Bam. The centers. How. The centers. Bam. How many made it last year? What year you want to go? That's what we go. BAM, MB. AD, BAM, MB.

AD, BAM, MB. That's it. I'm proud of America. He's never. No MB. Walker Kessler. No MB. That's it.

That's all we got? Yeah. Two? Yeah. So how they going to feel? Those two guys are feeling the two center spots? That's it. That's all we got? Yeah. Two? Yeah. So how they gonna feel the two, those two guys are feeling the two center spots? Same two centers that always feel the two center spots that they call wings.

So Joker and Wimby feel the two center spots. And then you're gonna have some bonus. But Wimby has a three. No, Yannis has a four. He's our two. He's our three players. We can guess. Yeah, everybody else. Who?

Except for the two centers we named. Wimby, Joker, centers, everyone else is Wink. So center, here we go, here we go. Sam Goon, he's a center. Brings it up. He's a wing. He's going to play Wink. He's a center.

Rashad, stop this. Stop this. I'm sorry, he's a fucking five, man. Anthony Davis played Wink? He's a fucking five. He's a four, five. Anthony'm sorry, he's a fucking five man, though. Does Anthony Davis play wing? He's a fucking five. Does he play wing? He's a four, five, five man, though. Does Anthony Davis play wing?

He's a fucking five. Does he play wing? He's a four, five. Let me get a four, five. He's a four, five. So what is Singoon, a four, five? He's a five. So when Steven Adams is in the game, what does he play?

Four. Four. Okay, man, let me go use the bathroom. That's not a wing player, that's a fucking powerful. I'm gonna use the bathroom. What does he start the game at? I'm gonna use the bathroom, man. What does he start the game at? I'm gonna stand in the center now.

What does he start the game at? I'm gonna use the bathroom. He's the starting center. What does he start the game at? He's first in title. Jesus Christ. What does he start the game at? He's in the center.

What is his position that he starts the game at? He starts at the center. He fucking jumps ball in the middle of the, that's the starting, he's the fucking center. So go to the bathroom or you won't. You argue like. He's a fucking five. They center. So go to the bathroom or you won't argue like it's a fucking five As the listed that they have so far the list that I was they got they got guards at Luca Shay

Stinking wings as Giannis Laurie Wagner Pascal their centers is your kids Wimby Sabonis Rudy and be Nurkic who it chick Zubac, Capella, Kristoff. Now, out of that whole fucking big ass list, the max that they can do is three. They're versatile, Gil. They're international players. They can't put them at the fore. That's not out, you know what I mean? It's... Don't work both ways. It only works one way.

Yeah. Put Wimby at the one. What way is that? The American way. It's the one way. Yeah. Who would be at the one with that the American way? It's the American is the American All-Star game. Huh? I said saying so we got to be in position. Y'all y'all can be out of position. We got to be in position.

Who's out of position? Who's out of position? Yeah, that sounds like xenophobia shot. Yeah, who's out of position? Who's out of position? Okay, this be wrong. I'm saying they don't have 12 European players that are on fitness criteria. It's not even about being wrong.

But they can put a team together, yes. They can put a team together if they... They gotta be creative to put this team together. I agree, they can do it, but... They got eight guys in the mix. As the big standing, all them bigs can't make it. Can they do it? You got Cat in the mix well on the the international

Can they do it with real all-stars though? That's the thing You need it's not so it's only we got eight it's only eight only eight we got eight eight That's all that all is so what about the other four we can trickle them But if you if you go to class last year Teams of eight you four teams eight guess how many in. But if you go to like last year. Teams of eight. Four teams, eight. Guess how many sitters played in the All-Star game last year? How many do I know?

You already know. It is a plush couch. Four! You see the number. Four. OK. I thought you were just rubbing the couch. To build up the discipline.

Guess how many was on the East Coast? You can just take a wild guess. There's four total. So three? Oh, no. It's two and two. You can have Przezinski in it too. Another big.

Who? Przezinski. You got him at the center. He's the center. No, that's what I'm just saying. I'm just throwing it at it. Przezinski too. Ain't for him.

He just has a foreign language there. Lord help us. I I get it man. Yes, I'm excited. During the Winter Olympics who wouldn't want to watch that? Me and Przezinski. You know what the problem is? Now, now let's ask this question. Easy work. Now let's ask this question. Now let's ask this question. I like it. It's not. It's not. I don't know if you'd be with me, but it's not. One, two, three, everybody's a bad.

You just said get our soul sick and just add anybody to the motherfuckers. Now let's ask a real serious question here, since it's about integrity and playing hard. You put this American list together, right? And then you put your American list together, right and then You put your euro list together and then you you have been Matheran you start putting bobon in there you start putting these guys in there and you put Dylan Brooks in there Tim Bo Bo get no no what I'm saying is you bobo gets just Do you think all of a sudden these niggas gonna say oh shit Let's play hard. Well, if they're getting their asses busted with that make them what I'm saying is

Not playing 48 minutes They look how did they treat them little ass kids that they didn't think was worthy Yeah, what are you gonna think? What are you gonna think where you got guys who don't even play on me? They don't even start on their team and they told her can six and seven. What do you think? They're gonna look at them at? Yeah, it's so push shoulders. I'm gonna be sitting. Oh shit. My ankle hurt again Push the shooter on the team Murray and make the team but Why are you got a field you got a field of guard? and green but That's not a ball. He balled. Murray would make the team. Wagner. You got to feel the guards.

Green and green. Wagner. Wagy Wagy. But what I'm saying is. Siakam. Jamaican too. Siakam Wagner. All-Star squad.

Siakam Wagner. Jamal Murray. Yeah. R.J. Barrett if we want. They can put it together. Andrew Wiggins if we want. I'm gonna take those names serious enough to go hard if they're not taking each other who are real all-stars hard You think they're gonna take all the names seriously? No, they're not taking each other seriously

They're not taking each other seriously They're not taking each other seriously They're not taking each other seriously They're not taking each other seriously They're not taking each other seriously They're not taking each other seriously They're not taking each other seriously They're not taking each hard if they're not

taking each other who are real all-stars hard you think because you put world on the jersey and they're looking at a whole bunch of dudes that's not even worthy of this floor you think they're gonna take that seriously well my friend do that when they go overseas and play in those they look at God's not where that's where they have to go say let's beat they ask And make sure they remember they don't Will they take it serious if they're getting their asses busted by the World Team with that it's like South Sudan If they're not gonna care from the beginning I got just good. I just watch this shit. I'm good

I just thought of the reference to shit. That's really right there Then did they take that serious? Big money because I went out there and play hard reference the shit that's really right there in front of us. Unless they put some big money in front of us. South Sudan, did they take that shit serious? Unless they put some big money in front of us. They did. The niggas went out there and played hard and they showed them. You're talking about world and we're talking about a weekend. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Unless they put some big money in front of us.

The real issue behind All Star Weekend is it became a production event. They're producing, like this is the movies, and the guys are just like yo, we're good Right when it gets just back to the game itself Right go back to the what made it poppin Like oh we need to change our jerseys back to our teams. No, no, no, no, the fucking Jersey don't make you play better or not It's take out all the production because you know all these sponsors coming in now This shit is three fucking hours now You got you know all these people doing halftime shows and we sit here in the middle of the game now

We got 45 minutes before when we jump up it became so studio like For the entertainment value to figure out how to the value of the actual game and why people are there and so somehow try to figure out how to get that love back now the problem is this how are you gonna do that if you think that Kevin Durant and LeBron James facing an East team that they didn't date East All-Stars and it wasn't going hard then, what goes hard against the guys that they don't even seem worthy or even in their realm?

They just did it. Eagles is Eagles. They just did it this past all-star the bronze showed up in We play GV all-star Andy Edwards, what is it? It was on my back. This is my back. You know, it's a new I'm doing how many how many how many players didn't play? We only thought about LeBron. We know who not doing that type of shit. Did Yannis play?

Who didn't actually play? It was Yannis, it was Ant-Man. Westbrook, Ant-Man. If I made the All-Star game for the first time, and I had to play like the G-lead elite, I'd be upset too though. Think about the names that didn't play. Ynis, Ant-Man, and LeBron. Yeah, we're good.

All right, well we asked the chat, who wins the USA versus the world matchup? 63% of the chat says USA. Chat was also supportive of the USA versus the world format. 62% of the chat liked the idea of a USA versus the world format. But let's keep this thing moving. So as you all know, Gills Arena is presented by underdog woo woo.

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world team in the all-star game format if he was healthy has been the subject of trade rumors ever since the Bucks were eliminated in the first round for the third consecutive postseason. While Giannis himself still has not made a decision on whether he will request a trade or not, he has been trolling on Twitter throughout his offseason to keep us entertained. One big man who knows about making big moves in pursuit of titles is Shaq, being traded to the Heat after signing with the Lakers as a free agent in 1996, then another title after being traded to the Heat in 2004. On the Good Word podcast with Vince Goodwill, Shaq gave Giannis some advice on what he should consider when making his decision.

If you had advice, if you could give him, if you could bend his ear a little bit, what would you tell him as he's approaching sort of maybe a crossroads in his career? I would tell him they're probably throwing, you go to LA, that's 50% of your contract, goes to Texas, more pressure, more oracles, and that's 50% of your contract, goes to Texas, more pressure, more oracles, and more stress.

You know, he made a name for himself being that he's in the control of that ship. He should go upstairs and be like, I want to see all the things you're looking at too small, you probably need to go to a big market. I'm not every market is the same. And not only that, he's making a supermax. So what do you need a big market for? So Shaq went on to say a big market is to help you get more opera so shot anymore on your answers not gonna change what he said just phone somebody need free agents phone numbers

and talk to them personally all that I did They're gonna accept the call and just cuz of you. They're gonna accept the call and just cuz of you. and politely decline. Like ain't nobody going to Milwaukee. They have beer. People not free good dudes that have what's up and coming about it. They have beer. People not free good dudes that's trying to win something or be some in its NBA they are not going to Wisconsin man they're not just what the fuck it is unfortunately a proud state it is very proud Green Bay Packers go Marquette go Bucks but they not ain't nobody going there man they're not like it's just what it is man

we're gonna turn down money who won't it ain't about the money bro like it's always about the money dudes ain't going to Miami oh dudes is gonna go this they have it Gonna go on a field regardless of what y'all think. You always talk about what someone's gonna do. What has happened? What has happened? What has happened? That's what we're asking. What has happened? What's gonna do 20 years from now as We're talking about the proof right now. We've been through as we sit at the 2025 through this. Yes I wasn't here. So there's 2025 fucking memory, please who has went to who has signed it who has signed in these places Please refresh my rated side. Jog my memory. What did he just say? I heard what he said get guys phone number market get the social media

But this guy is not 1990. Yes, we talked about a private market shit Don't mean nothing if you got a big social media present. He don't Who don't you honest? He's trying to get there. He's not Shaquille O'Neal personality man is he Is he the Greek Freak? I don't care for what you call him Nobody gave him he didn't come up with it is the He's a two time MVP. He's the two time MVP. Who in Milwaukee? He's a champion.

In Milwaukee? Yeah. Not in the NBA? Ain't nobody coming there to join him. Yeah. In Milwaukee. All those things that did happen in Milwaukee, yes. So then nobody else is like...

Who came here? Defensive God. You're not going to come join Gianannis a proven champion MVP defensive God Have they done and why would you go and have they done it? I mean Yes, and nobody has They haven't had time to do it they was winning winning team They didn't know it wasn't trying to bring people in there was already winning We got our guys. We're winning with our guys, what do we need free agents for?

They need them now though. So who's coming? We'll see. We'll see. If he stays, somebody's gonna come play with us. He's been trying that for ten years. Huh? But you're just, to be honest.

Ten? Ain't nobody going to Milwaukee. Ain't nobody going to Milwaukee. Reality is always reality. Can you play back what he said? Dudes ain't going to Milwaukee. Ain't nobody going to Milwaukee. Reality is always reality. Can you play back what he said? Dudes ain't going to Miami. Dudes are free. They ain't going to Miami as free agents.

If you had advice, if you could give him, if you could bend his ear a little bit, what would you tell him as he's approaching sort of maybe a crossroads in his career? I would tell him they're probably throwing in his face bigger market. Doesn't matter. Social media is the market now.

You go to LA, that's 50% of your contract, goes to Texas, more pressure, more articles, and more stress. You made a name for yourself. Let it play, man. So, let it play all the way out. I'm fucking confused now, because if you stand in your market that you're in

you're just as visible but you go to LA now you get more articles more stress more what like well and the good part more recognition more Jersey sir sales more off-the-court. We watched it in real time. Luka Jersey in Dallas and then when he got his motherfucking ass in Los Angeles. No matter what they said, did his jersey sales not pop out? He didn't win a G-Sales. He got aimed. The nigga. Because what's more? I hear the hear the bad part yeah taxes and yeah yeah but there's a good part too but you're saying that old markets don't matter do anybody have the Charles Barkley because I'm pretty sure Charles

Barkley this year at least eight times has can big markets about the coverage of only big markets. From his side... Let me tell y'all something. Tell me something. And first of all, I want all the smoke. From his side... Let me tell y'all something. Tell me something.

And first of all, I want all the smoke. I don't whistle when I walk by the graveyard or anything like that. Are doing great. When I walk by the graveyard. I like that one. Hey man. I'm stealing that one. The Lakers are doing great

Got a long way to go But the reason the season has been going great for the Warriors is and the Oklahoma City Thunder Y'all just want to talk about the Warriors and the Lakers. They're both doing great Don't get me wrong if I turn out to be wrong I got no problem with that But y'all are idiots because y'all talk about the Lakers and the Warriors all the time. Y'all know that Cleveland Cavaliers won 12 straight games. The Oklahoma City got the MVP and they are on fire. Y'all are talking about who's in second place. That's the reason I get pissed. Hey, the Lakers are

doing great. I don't mind being wrong. The Warriors are doing great But that's cause you fools on other networks, which we gonna become become fools next year We've been working on that network. But Oklahoma City and the Cavs been balling for six months Y'all talking about teams that had two great weeks months. Y'all talking about teams that had two great weeks. Tell me about it. They're going to be fools. So a team that played that's been great for all season is getting overshadowed by niggas who played two good weeks.

I think that was the gist of it. While he's at a Laker game. They're going to be fools. Just of it while he's at a Laker game While he's at the Laker game not okay see wasn't that okay see versus Cleveland he wasn't Cleveland versus Indiana game. No, no, no, he was at the big game Talking about who they should be talking about but he never talks about them either So what Shaq is saying is not actually reality because here it is you only talk about big markets because the big markets is what makes the big money right if you go through baseball there's two motherfuckers that's standing out right what cities are they in? Huh, if you're referring to show hey, oh tiny who played for the Los Angeles dollar dodgers I'll be able to other one if you're talking my air

Six seven motherfucker up the six What's the other one the little one the Mets that's New York, right? I know black one soda I know that he's the highest paid right? Yeah, he does make a lot of money Okay, who makes the most money all good bottle flippers like one of them make so much money off the field He'd even take his contract just defer that That was show. Hey, okay, because he's here in Los Angeles. He's making so much money 65 million dollars a year in Endorsements yeah that he don't need yes

Mayor may not be using some of those funds to same thing with you They they use the underdog but so so the market is the place I get that social media is a thing I get it. I get it's a thing, but it's still the same man Where you live does matter if you're honest went to a big city is gonna change just like it changed for Luca Which is tough Shaq saying this when Shaq literally left Orlando to go to a... But he's trying to say it's not back then, but it's still the day now. Shaq left Orlando because they took out a poll in the newspaper and asked the public should they pay him. And that motherfucker said no, he was hurt, he left.

But that's just indicative of how small markets think. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But there was a new, there was an expansion franchise that didn't think they could afford him. The city of Orlando didn't think they could afford him. So the polls said no. So of course he benefited of going to the lake. The Lakers had no problem affording him though. It's not about that.

He's talking about the contracts. The contracts across the board is the same max is max, right? that's not the advantage of big markets the big market is Endorsements shoe sales jersey sales likeness the things that you know, I got GQ magazine GQ Man, have we seen a GQ magazine over in Memphis anyway, you got I mean mean you know Sam a great film man now you think Louis Vuitton is putting the billboard up in Milwaukee I guarantee you if bill if they're gonna put a billboard of Yanis who who's Louis Vuitton

I guarantee that bitch is gonna be in Chicago. They gonna put it in the big mark. They're not putting it in Backwoods, Milwaukee No, hell no, I'm just sorry. Milwaukee, a solid metropolitan area. He here in Los Angeles, you're gonna put that motherfucker anywhere. Oh, he was out there. So, you know what I mean? It is, it's a real thing.

Even though we try to pretend it's not because obviously you don't want everyone just jumping up trying to get to the big market. Yeah. Right now, too. Everybody can't. You don't gotta be greedy. You can just stay where you at and win, is what Shaq's saying. You don't have to the big market. Yeah. Right now, OK? Because you don't got to be greedy. You can just stay where you at and win.

That's what Shaq's saying. You don't have to do all that. Nobody going there, though. But if you lost now, three straight firsts. You don't have to do all that. Nobody's going there unless it's a trade. We won here. Unless it's a trade, ain't nobody got it.

We brought the first championship. Well, the next championship. Through the draft and trade. 50 years. How many years was it? One and left, man. How many years was it? One and left, hell. How many years was it? Do the Draft and Trades.

Oh. Why would you leave your kingdom? I hear him. Why would you leave your kingdom for a bigger market and a bigger payday and not win? So before that was Lou Alexander, that one. Yeah. He need to follow us. I ain't leaving. That's cool. I'll send her that one. Yeah, he's a father. I ain't leaving.

That's cool. I don't need to leave. That's cool. Ain't nobody coming out to join you. We good then. That's what you gonna have to be. Cole can figure it out. He can figure it out.

Who? Los Angeles. Los Angeles. So what Shaq saying does, it doesn't matter, right? That means in theory, we know the real answer. That means two small markets with social media glaring, these finals should be breaking records or at least stay the same as last year's then, right?

Well, they will with real basketball fans. Right, I'm just saying they should, right? If you don't watch it, that means you're casual. People gonna watch it. Yeah, people gonna watch this. Unless it's being promoted otherwise. It's gonna be good. It's good basketball.

We've been watching good, same two teams play good basketball all year long. Yeah, who watched it? Everybody watched it. Then why were they complaining about it? Do we need to play Charles Barkley again? Say they won 12 games straight, I think three times in a row, but nobody cares.

I think that's what he said, it's out of his mouth. He said the people that was covering it didn't care Yeah, like him because he wasn't covering neither. He just that's not the world doesn't want to see it though It doesn't account for everybody who likes basketball just for people just talking about it on TV. It sure You're a Cleveland Cavalier fan, right? How often did the world talk about Cleveland when it was whooping ass? They didn't okay We don't we all get worse. It was our time. You had to convince us that it was whooping ass to take names, right? But we

Had a feeling that another small market team would rise from the fight because much it Go to Ohio. I can tell you that Yo, I hear you shy and I hear like but there's a reason that they put them teams on NBA TV. A fine network. It is, it's a very fine network. Hard to find sometimes in navigation. Keep going down. I guess so.

Just keep going down. And I guess it's the reason why these teams is in the finals too. Yeah, I'm, man, I don't. NBA TV to the finals, what a fucking come up. This is a great come up. They put a patient game in like 3 o'clock in the afternoon I like underdogs, I like the niggas that don't supposed to be in the spotlight

Then all of a sudden they like man how the fuck you get here? You wasn't invited to this table, how you get here? It'll change I hope this happens for the next 10 years They'll be on TV more next year, they'll have more national televised games next year All you gotta do is win Crash the party What did you say. All you gotta do is win. Crash the party. What did you say?

All you gotta do is win. All you gotta do is win and you gonna have what? More. Dude, Lakers gotta win, to be on TV? Nope. Oh. Oh. Oh.

Phoenix 30, Lakers gonna have to win, Lakers gonna have to win, Philly ain't gotta fucking win. Yeah, it's just unfortunate. If you don't wanna win. There we go right there. Golden State ain't gotta win. The conversation about who's winning. Golden don't want to win there we go right there Conversation about who's with it. Oh, they didn't got a we have it st. Is always about who's know nothing. We talking about Yes, not TV now because the bigger market doesn't do anything. We talking about for us. Yes, not TV more Lake he's not gonna get more national TV games in the Laker Golden State or Nick game

Not gonna have TV games in the Laker Golden State or Nick game. They've curry down it. Yes, please Cuz that's Steph Curry down it in season games. Six thousand career threes made shit. Listen, this motherfucker is amazing. So why does Giannis need a big market again? I didn't say he has a chance to win more championships. Yeah, I didn't say he did. You're talking about winning. That I don't agree with is people coming.

The point of his statement that I don't agree with is people coming. Like if he's standing and walking, he need to get guys phone numbers and call them. That's my- In bed. He can do all the calling he want. And telling guys that this is, it's not. People not coming there, bruh.

I don't believe that. Hey, yeah, yeah. I do not believe that. Okay, some- Motherfuckers gonna pick up the phone and Yannis on the phone like, hey bro, what's good? Yeah, they gonna pick up the phone. What's good? Yeah, they gonna pick up the phone and Yannis on the phone like, hey bro, was good. Was good.

Yannis, Honest, and Proof. With that kind of reputation. That's what you would do. I'm saying pedigree. No, that's what you would do. I'm saying if somebody get the phone and Yannis is like, yo, I want you to come play with me, you're gonna be like, nah, man, I'm good. That's what you would do.

What nigga in the NBA would do that? Whoever's done that for the last fucking 10 years. I don't know. That's what I'm saying. If we in the NBA would do that? Whoever's done that for the last fucken years. I don't know. That's what I'm saying. So if we don't know, we can't say no. You don't think Bam picked up the phone in Miami and asked certain guys to come join him? You don't think Bam picked up the phone in Miami and asked certain guys to come join

that motherfucker? I don't know. So... But you think Yannis gonna pick the phone up and somebody gonna answer? That's what he just told him to do. Ain't nobody gonna... People gonna pick the phone up and somebody gonna answer? That's what he just told him to do. Ain't nobody gonna pick the phone up because it's Yanis. Absolutely. They're gonna be like yo, everybody's gonna decline.

They're gonna decline, politely decline. Everybody's gonna decline on Yanis. Bro, I think we can win a championship. Come live in Milwaukee? Bro, I think we can win a championship, bro. Come live in Milwaukee. You mean to tell me there's gonna be players and NBA is gonna answer that call Cuz he just told him John is any time you had it made the car Cuz he just told him John is you need to call these guys

So you think Shaq had to tell him that that's what we talking about We talk about one a champion shit with a telling me you don't think he's never had to about we talk about one a championship with to tell him that you don't think he's never had to we won a championship with a core group of guys I grew with we ain't never been in this position before now we in this position around now so when they want to chat here that's what he just so no but so from the championship year that they had right when they won the championship right are we not supposed each year as a team? Yes, we do.

We're supposed to upgrade our roster every year, right? No, we don't have to. Well, we're supposed to. We don't have to. We don't have to, but this is the expectations. We didn't, okay. So therefore, okay, we didn't. We losing the first round, right?

Right, the next three years. But the first round exit, maybe it's hurt. Okay, but how about the second one hurt again? So you don't think like let me maybe get some help in this motherfucker after that one But those two injuries ain't got nothing to do with it. Oh, then damn. They're those two agent Then they ain't get through damn come through a trade Which is not a free agent didn't ask for him didn't ask for They didn't ask for him. They didn't ask for him. They didn't ask for him.

So, but that was a trade that was made, they got him through a deal. Wait, wait, so you think he didn't have nothing to do with it? They didn't ask for him, no. You remember the reporter, he was like, yo, I got Dave. So they didn't ask him. So was he welcome to open arms? So I'm asking you a question.

I'm having a conversation. Y'all just didn't go and recruit that, that was a trade. But was he welcome with open arms? So they never said, yeah, I'm happy to come and say that. Y'all just didn't go and recruit that, that was a trade. But was he welcome with open arms? Every trade is welcome with open arms. Bro, you got a superstar like Dame, look. Okay, we're gonna welcome him with open arms. So now he has help. Okay, third year, three years straight.

Now he lose again. We need to change some shit up. Dame not coming back this year. Dame not playing this year. So now he need to pick the shit up like we ain't never They ain't not coming back this year. They ain't not playing this year So now you need to pick the phone up and call somebody So do you think somebody's coming there? Yes, ain't nobody fucking coming. Yes. You know why cuz it's wide open No, what's wide open playing with y'all? It's the damas down. It's wide open But they coming back though, but it's right now it's wide open then I win it next year with that Ross whoever's come on that team can establish with that Ross that's constructed not beat nobody with that head coach over there that's a

handicapped they ain't beat nobody they ain't beat nobody you know what Yonis was great this year they just bought a house in New York they got a pedigree bro the Bucs have established a pedigree Every year Get to the playoffs on establish that pedigree ain't nobody know how he's going to be walking Pick the phone he can call every listen, why would I buy a house somewhere else? He just go to Orlando before they go to have an NBA Rolodex out there motherfucking so so so free ages go to Orlando before they go to the- He can have NBA roller decks out there, motherfuckers. So free agents go to Orlando before they go to Milwaukee? Yeah.

Free agents go to Atlanta before they go to Milwaukee? KCP? Yeah. He was free. He just won a championship. He got championship pedigree. We didn't need him. Touring.

We didn't need him. He got touring, but he's a free agent. Y'all did need a KCP. He had Beasley. No. We had Beasley. He don't do what he do. He ain't the winner. They do the same thing. He's not a winner. They do the same thing. He's a gauge. I didn't need a KCP. He had easily know we had be you know do they do hang Hey, you're the same thing. He's not a winner. They do the same thing. He's not a winner. He's a shooter championship

Wait, wait, wait, wait, and who's the better? We already had a guy So they got KCP just a shooting boom so so KCP just a shoe KCP went just where he was Is he just a shoe KCP went down? KCP went down What did he do Yeah, three and D guys Going to Detroit before they go to the portable locking shit of ours Harris free ages going to Detroit before they go to more to buy hairs recent

Guys You saying clay couldn't want to Milwaukee okay clay Tom ain't no way was there so nobody at his position nobody who's there who was there no who is there was her body who was hurt was he there he was hurt at this small for who is the shooting dogs like Dame hurt rightward right now, right? Chris Middleton was hurt when this was happening, right? That's what I'm saying. So why would he come there?

The man's coming back. He don't know they're going to trade him. So why would he come there? The man coming back. You're saying Clay, right? Yeah, why would he come to Milwaukee and Chris Middleton is still on the roster? I agree.

I said that same thing. Huh? I agree. So why would anybody come now? Dane coming back. So why would anybody come there? Like, the guy that's going to help. Dane coming agree. So why would anybody come now, they ain't coming back, so why would anybody come like that's gonna help? They ain't coming back.

That's what I was saying, I was like, yeah, like we won't need to do all of that because guys are gonna understand if Yannis calls me and he says he won't help. So give me a guy. This is not a shot in the dark, he's gonna make it happen, he thinks I can help.

So give me a guy. I'm gonna give you the actual guy, fuck Chris Biddle, to the shooting guard, Jackson Biddle to the shooting guard Jackson you know the shooting guard okay see me when I'm just saying it clay couldn't beat out him who averaged what three points four points okay see me when I'm before the for the Jackson kid I don't know man yeah the whole three he had the whole three you're talking about Clay didn't want to go there. Hey, can you do me a favor? Oh, Steve, no, no, no. You're reaching when you're throwing. Can you look up the unrestricted free agents for this summer, please?

When you're talking about who the shooting guard, Clay's position, it's number 44. It has nothing to do with what's in there. I'm going to hold on. I didn't move down. How did we get the clay? Yeah, how we get the clay? Because he was a shooting guard. You said, you know, Yannis is there.

Damon's there. Why wouldn't he want to go there and win a championship? Yeah, I just mean, I just want to go to Dallas. Why? He could have went there. Because Kyrie was there. But Yannis and Damon's there. He wanted to go somewhere else. Yannis and Damon's there. He wanted to go somewhere else.

Well, because Dallas is a better market than... Got it. You see how you just fell into that hole? Okay. Is Clint promoted more than he was in...oh. I'll give you like 10 names, Kenyon. Unrestricted. So I'm not doing player options or none of that. No, no, just unrestricted.

Brooke Lopez, he's in the **** now. Okay, big time. Clint Capella. Ooh. Bruce Brown. Ooh. Malcolm Broglla. Ooh. Bruce Brown. Ooh. Malcolm Brogdon. Ooh.

Miles Turner. They need to get Bruce. Tim Hardaway Jr. He could help. D'Angelo Russell. Little D'Lah. Harris LaVert. Luke Kennard.

Dennis Schroeder. Luke Kennard could help. Even Adams. Luke Kennard could help. He's a shooter. Dennis Schroeder could help. Tim Hardaway Jr. could help. He's a shooter.

Hey, I'm Yannis, I'm under the coupon. I call any of those dudes on that list. Yes, I give you... Except for Brogdon. So now we're gonna move to Goalpo. That list that he just gave me, absolutely. All the free agents available. Unrestricted guys. None of those guys are stars that's gonna replace Dame Lillard. So those guys are bitch guys that could help.

So now we're looking for guys that are gonna replace Dame Lillard now. That's gonna move, that's gonna help. Superstars. That's gonna help. No, no, no, a star. Give me a star. Is Dame a superstar? So give me a star.

That's gonna replace Dame. That's gonna help, Yannis. Why Dame is down? Why Dame? Because he's gonna miss the time year Okay, is that all next year? Okay. I'm not saying give me a super so give me a star But there are remember there aren't any available. So there's this has been summers So therefore you got summers every something every summer if I'm a GM and I look at that list and summer. This is all I got

This is crazy. I ain't got nothing to pick from this summer. This is all I got. This is crazy. I ain't got nothing to pick from this summer. This is all I got. So think about that. How about the list last summer? What did they grab last summer? Oh, I got a reason. What was the list of summer before that? Who the fuck did they grab that summer to?

I mean, we can go every summer. Name them. Yeah, no, but I'm just- Name them. Because obviously this summer, you said all of them will pick up the phone? A bet list that he just named? All of them. They would. All of them.

I'm pretty sure last summer, all of them would pick up the phone. So therefore, they could pick the phone up, but of the guys that... He needs shooters and athleticism, and they need to get off of fucking Brooke Lopez. All he gotta do is do what LeBron been doing. Call the niggas you need and tell them to come over here. Help me. Help me. Help you. All he got to do is do a LeBron been doing call the niggas you need and tell him to come over here help me Oh, man, I'm glad you helped me help you How many people do you think LeBron called to come down to Cleveland before he decided he was gonna go to Miami? No, no rich called everybody on whose behalf I don't know

They would say I Know nothing about who called who but how many people do you think he called to pick up the phone and come and play with me so we can win a championship. You don't think he asked mellow. You don't think he asked the Wayne Wade early. You don't think he called Chris Bosh. And when Chris Bosh said, hell no, I'm not coming down. I'm trying to leave the cold.

You don't think none of these calls has happened. All superstars usually get on the phone and try to use their power when Kobe called, who he needed. Yo, Dwight, I want you to come. Right? That's him calling. Because players respect players. So you're going to get more done by the player calling,

not the general mayors to try to. So 1,000% of Giannis is called players to try to come there. But it is Milwaukee. Same like when Dame was in. You don't think Dame called anybody to try to come there, but it is Milwaukee. Same like when Dame was in, you don't think Dame called anybody to try to come help him? I hope Yannis comes out and says, yo, I've never called anybody. I texted his brother.

Never called anybody. He never called anybody to help me. Yeah, but why you texting? I hope he say that, man. He gotta come out and say that, bro. I texted his brother. Just say it just for the trolling sake. Just troll for the sake.

I'd never called anybody to tell them to come play with me until this summer. Until this summer that's going to come up. You need help. Okay. Well, hopefully we get a text back. I text. Ain't nobody going to be walking. Y'all going to see. Ain't nobody going to see, bro. Ain't nobody going to Milwaukee.

You know it, y'all gonna see. Ain't nobody going to Milwaukee. Y'all trippin', man. Everybody better go where they can fit. Fuck that shit. What you mean you ain't going? Shit. Man.

Lil' Quint Dickie. I said, man, I'd rather be there. That's where you wanna go? That's where you wanna go? Uh-huh, huh, okay, okay you wanna go? Okay, okay, 23 hour lockdown. Okay, yeah, a super program. The LaQuin Dickie Miami company. You don't wanna go to Milwaukee.

Please. Hell no, I'd rather throw rocks at cars. What kind of cheese they got in Milwaukee? You'd rather throw rocks at cars, Swacky? Yeah, let's go. My last stop of my career was there. I had a cup of tea in that mouth. Coffee, tea, whatever you want to call it.

No beer. If you want a Milwaukee Bush, whatever that is. Milwaukee's best. Yeah, Milwaukee's best. A fine brew. Come on now. Milwaukee's best, right? You put the jerk in there.

Bro, I'm here to tell you. Don't do it man. I was in that motherfuckin' dead, I was got that dead. Don't do it man. I was in that motherfuckin' dead, I was got to that bitch in motherfuckin' January. Very cold.

Dead winter. Dead fuckin' winter. Dead fucking winter. As much as I wanted to play basketball, every morning I got up to go to fucking practice. I'm like, what the fuck are you doing here, Kenyon? Preference, man. No, I know. I didn't been every... Listen, I've lived everywhere I've played besides the Clippers.

Everywhere I've played since I left Dallas X, it snowed. When I went to Cincinnati, it snowed. I left there and went to Jersey, it snowed. I left there and went to Denver, it snowed. We left there and went to China for them three months, it fucking snowed. Came back with the clip, then went to New York for two, it snowed.

So the snow ain't the issue. OK. What's the issue? If it ain't snowing. It's the place where it's snowing. Yeah. That's, trust me, it ain't the snow that's bothering the people. It's the place where it's snowing. Yeah. Trust me, it ain't the snow that's bothering the people. It's the place where it's snowing.

It's snowing like motherfucker in Chicago. When I go in the snow, I ain't got no other place to go. I hear you. Listen, everywhere you go, they treat you nice. You go to the steakhouse carnival. They get you a steak. Cheese, please. They get you a steak with your name on it.

They treat you great. Man, how could you not want that kind of cheese? I get your steak. Hey, please. They give you a steak. You get your steak knife with your name on it. All that. How could you not want that kind of cheese? They bring that shit out. A steak knife with your name on it. What if your name is OJ? This is called a Gouda.

Gouda cheese. You ain't had no Gouda before. It's a different. You know what Gouda is. He showed you that Gouda. This Gouda. Different. You put this that Gouda, this Gouda. Different, you put this on the cracker. You put the cheese on the cracker, you eat it.

I used to get mad going out there for family reunions. I ain't no hearty. Speaking with your Milwaukee family. You can't avoid it. You can't avoid your lineage, man. Still looking for you. You got kids out there. Kids, God damn.

Let's keep this thing moving. And Jesus. Hey, hey, when Katie was a free agent, who called him, Ken? His players, right? His players? When Lebron was a free agent last year, who the fuck called him and tried to convince him to come on over there? Oh, we know.

Right, so they called each other, trying to convince each other that it's what stars do trying to call it so the fact that you don't really think Yannis actually called anybody is just sick in itself so he's just different than the other stars that's trying to fuck team up. We watch him play every day. Ain't nobody else in the NBA trying to win every game. That nigga's trying to win. He trying to win every game he fucking playing. So I'm pretty sure he didn't motherfucking call everybody

that was available from the time they won that championship before and now. Hey man, all Shaq saying is if you haven't, you might want to think about it. Well you don't think about it because ain't nobody coming there. All right, well let's keep this. I ain't saying he has to leave.

I'm not saying he has to join the big market. I'm not saying that at all. If he does, great. But as Stan right now, he gonna have hard time trying to convince a motherfucker to come to Milwaukee. It's just even harder in Milwaukee. Like hard times is harder in Milwaukee.

You ever had a hard time in LA and a hard time in Milwaukee? It's just so different. You don't even want to kill yourself. I had a hard time in Minnesota. I had a hard time in Minnesota, then I had to have a hard time in Sacramento. That's two whole, I think. I was coming from New Hampshire. It's been difficult everywhere. But your rise, your rise, your rise through the fire. He already has. We've been out here in LA ever since.

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So NBA finals tips off tonight as a reminder, two small market juggernauts. We will all be watching because we are real basketball fans watching in timely every single play, breaking it down, analyzing it, multiple TVs on around the house. So we have two people on this couch

that know what it feels like to be in the NBA finalsals. Kenny and your Nets squad made back-to-back Finals appearances in your second and third season in the league. Swaggy you won a chip with the Warriors in your last full season in the league. Gil you also won a Battle Mode 2. No no no I had to check my cuz you said NBA championship I thought you just said championship cuz I was gonna be with you and just like yeah. I do have a Little League championship on my side. You said NBA, so let me back that up. That's why I'm wearing the jewelry,

so I got to really support the youth. They give those out for us? You know, for Little League champions, I don't know what the other teams get. Pat on the back. Better luck next year. Shia, you also have a championship as well, so you can speak to this,

but what are the days leading up to the NBA finals like? Can Like what's you know, Ken you had like a think a four or five day break between your first one. Want to say a little bit longer between your second one but what are a little bit longer like eight days y'all got the sweep got to hang out for a little bit. What are those days though leading up to? You know I did the research. Oh yeah. I know we were man people don't know man y'all better. I just want your mother-fucker to be saying y'all better Google me. And people don't know, man, y'all better, I just want your mother fucker to be safe, y'all better Google me. No, honestly, it was fucking long ago, man.

The lead up. It's excitement and tension, you get to come to LA for the first one. Yeah, it was preparation, man, at that point. Right, you're just getting prepared. It's going over schemes and different things like that, getting shots up and trying to make sure everybody hold, right? You ain't got no nagging, injuries,

and lingering little things. So you got a few days in between the games. Like you said, we had four or five days in between the first one, a little longer on the second one. So, but yeah, no, it's... So the first one, it was... Nobody really expected us to be there. So it was us trying to prove to people that we belong, basically. The second one, we thought we belonged there, thought we had a legitimate shot to win.

So yeah, the second one is, like I said, there's a lot of days in between, but us, we're just ready to get going, man. Like ready to go out and prove to people that we belong here and it's gonna be a long series. And we split the first two games in San Antonio. So that was like huge, huge for our confidence going home. But you know, it's still basketball, but it is the finals. I was the same age as these guys,

a lot of these guys that's playing for Oklahoma City now. Right, I was 20, just turning 23, I was 24, I think. 23 in the first and 24 in the second one, so. Yeah, we talked about Little B yesterday, but that juggernaut Lakers squad in the midst of their three peak. Yeah, but it's gonna be nerves of course, man, for them dudes, man.

This is a big stage. It's the biggest stage you could possibly be on. And you wanna perform well. So. And then Swaggy, your last full season in Adam Silver's National Basketball Association won a championship with the Golden State Warriors. Now have championship experience as a result of that. Oh man, just bringing back all the emotions man. But now that... Emotions man. But now that... Emotions, man.

But now that... That's when, you know, I thought, you know, we won seven games. That's when, you know, I thought, you know, we won. I'm celebrating they let Nick celebrate, but... You did have a legendary speech after that game. This ain't it. Right after the next day, we got one more series to go. But right after the next day, we had a team meeting.

Everybody got not like a team, just like a sit down meeting, where people respect, where people want, going over schemes. If you wanted to get shots up, you could get shots up. And damn, it's like media. The media is just like college. Everybody got little sections and shit. You got to put that time in.

But the most important part is film. We watched a lot of film. We had a lot of teen films and going over schemes. That's about it. Worrying about LeBron. That's what we was worried about. 51-8 and 8 in that game went, unfortunately, as JR Smith opted not to try to take the game when the bucket called a

timeout instead. So they understand the game. Y'all had a motherfucking goddamn timeout. We were having fun. Yeah. They just trying to stop. Like, going out there, bitch, game one, trying to figure out how to go out of shack. Yeah, I had a motherfucking goddamn Like going out there bitch game would try to figure out a guard shot like Shit, I'd help him to go on out here man. The difference man You were blessed to win a battle mode two on two championship first ever

And being down to after coming down to oh, what's your national championship game, bro? Okay, you did but okay I want to talk about the championship got hurt. I know I went there you were there actually I experienced around one Playoffs got the got the round to to that got four old Tried your best I can tell you no matter how much we study I don't care how much we studied for that that that Shaquille O'Neal D Wade Miami god damn it we was getting swept, okay All right I watch hours and hours of video Of knowing that motherfucker was about it

Listen, they was so in front of us that Shack and even played two games and they swept us He's like, yeah out there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we good y'all. I ain't going down to DC Stam I don't stay on back here get ready for the day. Oh Yeah, that's how bad that was. They're not did not even come to the nation's capital Yeah, but I mean, it's the House of Representatives. No each round is a little bit a little bit of focus. You got to focus Just playoffs itself I can only imagine you know when you get to that that the next round Because you know what?

Just first run alone. You know, we plan, you know Chicago then you know, what's the name and you know all the prep work you're getting for those that those games and you know, Chicago, then, you know, what's the name and, you know, all the prep work you're getting for those that those games. And, you know, just to make it to the next round of extra round, you know, you're talking about sacrificing, you know, and focusing on the next three, three, four weeks, month and a half where, you know, you ain't in a relationship with your family. Right. There's no, you know taking the kids and doing all that. That shit is, we gotta wait.

You know what I mean? We gotta wait. I'm two weeks in and it's like, yo, wait, watch out. You ain't doing nothing. You ain't going out. Yeah, because you're playing like, for me, I don't like to speak from my experience. Playing a lot of minutes knowing you're gonna play knowing your team needs you So those things are real man. Like it was it was that it was nothing else going on Find somebody to get you a nice meal maybe and other than that Locked in game in time. Yeah

Like Sonny NCAA champion of the world. You're that guy that mess up. Yeah What's it like getting ready to play a championship game? Eyes of the world on you. A little bit different, obviously, with the Final Four. You have a quick turnaround preparing from one team to the next, but... Well, in my experience, it was just another day at the office. You know, it wasn't no real change of anything. Just keep doing what we've been doing to get here.

It was blowing teams out. So it was more of our focus and change of anything. Just keep doing what we've been doing to get here. This is blowing teams out. So it was more of our focus and execution than anything. Keep our foot on the gas. Keep doing what we do best. Just be yourself. Don't go out of your element doing anything different. And that was the preparation. It's like a superstition.

You get that superstition, and you're like, if I don't do it, then I have a bad game. You look back and you're like, see I didn't fucking do what I did last game. So just try to stay the course. Stay level headed. Always brush up on all of the schemes and plays and where you see yourself, knowing how to do little things that you've seen from the last game Knowing you got a different team. I just love preparation of everything so Championship big-time moments. It's always about who's willing to step ahead of the pack and say all right I'm ready for this moment Right, so I like that about championship basketball

So yeah, so he's round is different like I feel we didn't play in that Memphis series moment right so I like that about championship basketball so yeah. Each round is different like I feel we didn't play in that Memphis series we wouldn't have beaten Memphis like I feel like if he didn't guard I can't think of his name. Zach Randolph. I don't think Blake was ready for that. You don't know anything? No yeah you're right. For real I don't think cause he wasn't ready for that. You talking about us? Yeah. You don't know anything? Like I don't know. No, yeah you're right. For real, I don't think cuz he wasn't ready for him. And that's, and that's like, each round is different. But y'all smart enough to understand that. Put me and Reggie in it. Yeah like, you gotta be physical with him, close the gaps. Understand how to play him. Like I know how to guard Zach. Like nothing, like Zach is a very good, but I know how to guard Zach, right? So

I'm trying to. Blake was scared. That was the trying like was good. I was a serious. I was like I never seen anything like you ain't ever went up here He was playing you don't win up against everybody. So you like this up to that point shit. I'm in year fucking 12 11 12 at that point seen everybody I didn't Have to guard everybody and that's what when we talk about playoff Each round each round is different like you when we talk about playoff. Is each round different? Each round is different. Like you, your star might be outmatched by a certain,

so you might have to, and that's what it was. Like, all right, we just gonna beat up on, that's what it was, we gonna beat up on Blake, and then they switched it, and then y'all decided to neutralize him with you and Reggie, and then from there, it's like, oh shit, how we gonna, you know, how we gonna flip it back?

Game winning. It was like, we don't need Blake, we don't need Blake right now. We don't need Blake for this series. The other guys that can score, it was just other guys that needed to score the ball. So yeah, it was... They was like we don't need y'all for the Spurs. Yeah, yeah. We don't need you for the Spurs. Oh yeah, turn right around and get the goal in. That's the crazy part. We need y'all here. He fine against Duncan. You know what? Got swept. Yep. Got swept, yeah. y'all here he fine against Duncan all right got swept yeah right fuck that I

didn't played against this man damn baby you gonna look like I didn't play it against this man in playoffs in Jersey and Denver all these other places all of a sudden over coaching man like over coach and and and probably complaining yeah so he didn't come back with a game one You put me come right back with a game just to see if it work in this and I don't like what happened last series man 25 minute was going on. Oh, I got you. Yep loss Sometimes just get you got to get out of the round Get out of the round man

So both the Pacers and Thunder making the second finals appearance in their franchise history obviously for the Thunder since they've been in Oklahoma City This bitch if it's the guys first time playing in the final swag and you have NBA championship experience a dear time with the 2018 Warriors. What advice would you give that you fucked up? No, that's what you for the use fun playing See, that's where you fucked up. No, that's what you for the use fun playing See that's where you fucked up No, that's what you for the you said playing he played I did use instrumental Playing I'm gonna let you do Experience soon as you said playing I'm gonna let you do it. Go ahead. I can't ask you

You seen I can't ask you You see leave him alone man You seen it you seen it can you played you seen it he played Played and shut up get in when the game over with wave to your family and friends. Yeah, you gave me a shout out G8 that ain't playing. Damn. You made it. I gave him when I won. You made it. Hey. Change the word playing into cameo. Cameo can't be counted as a play. I'm gonna let you do it. I'm gonna let you say it. Ask the question. I was asking the champion. He know what a champion. You know how that feels. You know what it feels. I lost my goddamn mind and I got that shit.

I started watching it so I... Yeah, it's gotta be on the things that come in. So, for Caruso, you gotta get guys like that and ligands that come in the game and... We have the flow of the game going when they could easily that bench could easily fuck the game up for them. Like I mentioned you were at that game. The star is going to be the star but you I feel like the other guys ain't for sure. Playing on their game they make a big difference in the game for sure. At that game one 2018, Bron 51 8-8 for J.R game for sure at that game one 2018 Brown 51 8 and 8 for JR Smith at that game one 2018

Brown 51 8 and 8 for JR Smith watching that play in real time How absurd was it? When he got the rebound? Yeah, when he got the rebound I said, fuck him. I said. No, it was because I knew he was up, but he got the rebound. And he could have easily... No, it was because I knew he was up, but he got the rebound. And he got looked at the...

Went back up, but he dribbled out. And that made me think I looked at the clock wrong. And that made me think I looked at the shot the clock wrong And that made me think I looked at the shot the clock wrong, so you know, it's so funny I looked at that and I said, you know how like look if we get to say something in you know in the timeout And say all right, look if we get off here little we're gonna get the office We're so happy to get off his rebound and we get off his rebound and then you get it You didn't get the office with so we get the office rebound and we get the office rebound And then you get it you you didn't get the office Your job is to go in there and get the office Then dribble out the idea of if we get when they went into that timeout

The idea of if we get the rebound, this is what we're gonna do, then kick into nobody. Because he got the rebound. One thought about calling a timeout, they just chillin' like. Well, you see Brian trying to do it. Once he, once he started to do it, like, he was one of those.

Are you gonna turn this? Shoot, he's trying to get. Mr. Freethaw. That's the shot. I feel bad for you. That's the shot. I think George Hill, Mr. Freethaw. George Hill, George Hill. Mr. Freethaw. I feel so bad. What for you. Huh? Mr. Freethough. George Hill, George Hill.

George Hill. Mr. Freethough. I feel so bad. What was the mood like on the Warriors bench though after that moment? Did y'all feel like y'all had dodged? It changed the series cause we. Anyway.

No, no, we feel like we dodged that one. That's like the finals was the Rockets. Cause that was like a, but we knew, said but we felt like the finals was the Rockets. Cause that was like a, but we knew LeBron could change You like he did he came out LeBron doing average and 50 Shit like he did he came out Blue by me and dunk that motherfucker so fast on the Javelle

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J O N was my first playoff experience mm-hmm was fucking playing Indiana Pacers breath and like Reggie J O that like yeah, and I think they moved you on a German or no That was a you know, I was that was no I was Had to lock it put the clamps on a message different never game they try to run play for game Nah. He's weird. Nah. Nah. You know who was on top of that? Huh? He was on, he was on. He ain't letting them catch you. No.

I'm not going back. Look at his face. I ain't never, I ain't never. Look at his face. Look at his face. Your face lighter when you talk about deepfist, bro. He was just. He was like, I ain't letting them catch me.

I remember everything. He was smiling. I don't remember his smile. You remember all the backstab. I remember everything. I remember everything. But he just keeps this nigga talking about me. He's talking about me.

He's talking about me. Winner, they're like, stop that shit. They're like, yeah, yeah. It's like a game winner. They're running to play to try to score for games. On me though. That's not perfect. That shit means something.

They got one play and they trying to run a post up for jail. And you don't even get to touch the ball. They celebrate if he make it and he celebrate if not. When I stop that shit, turn the water off. Yeah, they got it like you don't even get to touch it. So that shit means something. That's a reward. That's a game winner.

That's an off real game winner. Reggie made a three at the buzzer going overtime. We thought the shit was late. So it was for the replay shit. We couldn't review it. The shit was late we thought. So we went over there. I think I played like 55 minutes that night.

Damn. That's the three over time? Yeah, bro. We, now that was Detroit. Now we play Indiana and that was the, that was game five. So this was when to go home Yeah, we was getting it Well, let's keep this thing moving

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I think, maybe sprinkle in a little bit of my anti-psychisms. Like, wouldn't it be like just more time convenient for yourself? Just shoot it once like commercial and just... But it's just clear it up that motherfucker. No, no, because I bring a different level of hosting every day. I'm in my NBA finals hosting level mode. My small market juggernaut finals hosting. I hear you. But this is kind of my, this is the only time.

I'm just trying to look out for you, brother. It's live. But this is kind of my, this is the only time I feel appreciated on the couch. You want it live every time. It's kind of my thing. I look forward to every day. Who's promoting the show?

You can't play the victim, Joe. Don't go there playing the victim now. I know, Black. All right, so let's get into the current NBA finals. As I mentioned too, small market juggernauts. Viewership records, look out. The NBA released the names of the officiating crew that will be assigned to this series. Let's take a look at who will be officiating.

Oh no! These fine distinguished gentlemen. The executioner as he's in their character and judgment abilities. Tony Brothers, the judge, jury and executioner as he said himself. James Capers, Mark Davis, Tyler Ford, the extender, David Guthrie, who is also here in Gills Arena right now with us. John Goble, David Guthrie, Ben Taylor Tiven Gucci Mane James Williams Sean right crew for this this will be own like

So this is the entire crew for this this will be those night game by game So this is the alternates are Courtney Kirkland and Kevin Scott and second row. It's fucking tricky as they got them come Hey, hold on second road Oh boy. Hey, hold on. Second row. All of them niggas. That second row. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Josh is okay. Josh is cool. You cool. Josh is cool. You cool. No, that's second row hell. Zach, oh my God, Zach, oh my God, man.

Yeah, that's second row. No, I like, Zach's a great ref. And Zach had his moments. No, Zach had his moments. Zach is one of the better refs. When he getting paid. I like Zach. He act like he got a little attitude and shit.

No, Zach always been cool. Tony Brothers, oh, Lord, Mark Davis, geez. No, Mark just don't take no shit. So I'm cool with this. So I've always been cool with the like, the fucking Danny Crawford's. You, yeah, I love Danny. Who else?

Joey, Danny. Joey Crawford, Danny Crawford. The fucking, Bob Delaney. Delaney was cool. All the dudes that didn't take no shit, right? Always been cool with them dudes that came out there, did their thing, was stirring in their approach. You knew what you was getting.

It's these tricky motherfuckers who you feel like cheating. You can look on their face, man. You can't not. John Goebel. You motherfuckers don't have enough experience to be. John Goebel. John Goebel, he you better sell you some bad insurance Like you like you like you ain't been around this shit long enough to have your attitude the way it is when I try

To ask you a fucking question back like some of them dudes like I'm like, oh man, you ain't that fucking important So therefore now I have to tell you ain't nobody here to fucking watch you dog man Tom Cruise and Gucci man I think they are there to watch good man. Tom Cruise, Smeagol and Gucci man. I like the bottom row. The middle one like Tyler. Zach Garber looked like the dude. They could put Tyler on the second row cause I didn't see ya. Zach looked like the dude from the podcast.

But that second row was tricky as a motherfucker boy. You know the podcast. You know the podcast. He look just like a brother. Shawn look like podcast, you know the podcast. He talking that shit, he look just like him. Brothers. This is brother. O-R-B. Sean look like he be in the Tyler Perry.

Who the? Tony Brothers. Sean. Sean look like he be in the Tyler Perry cast. He a Tyler Perry cast. James Williams, best hairline of all the rest. Yeah, you just gotta ask Tony Brothers before the game. Cause I'm gonna.

Are you gonna be a Trot nigga friend today or you gonna bullshit? Because I'm going to be a try nigga friend today or you're going to bullshit? Because I'm going to call you a schmigel for sure. You got to ask, we on bullshit. What's more important to you during the finals, allowing physicality or if we're on bullshit today are we cool? What's more important to you during the finals, allowing physicality or consistency in the whistle?

Have we seen it go both ways this postseason? You're not consistency, man. You don't want to feel like you're out there, bitch, being cheated. A team getting a better whistle than you are, like, it ain't nothing like that shit. I don't physically, because that's going to be, because we're in the finals now, right?

They're going to let you hoop. So, yeah, just being consistent, man. Don't, yeah, don't. You've been on the biggest stage and feel like you've been fucking cheated. Did you ever feel that way? That I was being cheated? Not in the finals, because they were just, but during, Hell yeah, during your career, during certain times. Hell yeah, man. Like, you, chit chat.

Do you talk about that? I think game against the Nuggets after the trade. They traded everybody, yeah. Everybody gone. They have 70. 30 shot attempts, not one free throw. Not one. Just took 20. 10 for 30.

Wait, you had 30 shot attempts? 10 for 30. You had 30 shot? Took 10 for 30. And I was positive that game. No free throws. No free throws, excuse me off that line God damn it. And he was there. The original. The OG Terminator.

The OG. The only time I really He was on that game Cuz somebody asked me I was like man I said the only time I read you know Colvin and we went down to Denver Denver just treated every day had nobody left Right. They only had like six seven people and I said we plan is we couldn't get over to We couldn't get over the hump and I'm like We couldn't get over the hump again. We couldn't get over the hump and I'm like, we couldn't get over the hump.

We couldn't get over the hump and I'm like, I'm driving, getting hit, nothing, nothing. Just Earl Boykins got like 15 free throws. I remember saying, man, why y'all cheating us, man? You keep, come on. I remember saying, man, why y'all cheating us, man? I don't like to hear that. I'd rather, I'd rather them just asking before the game.

I'd rather go out there because it's always asking before the game. Y'all going to let us play? It's going to be a close game? Are y'all going to call it close or are we going to let us play? How many minutes are they going to let us play? Before the game is the first five minutes, are they going to let us play? Or are they going to call it close. Before the game is first five minutes, they're gonna let us play or they're gonna call it close. Depending on how you play.

You play lazy, they're gonna call it lazy. You play aggressive, they're gonna have to be watching for that whistle. You adjust on the fly as a player too. I think that's what these other players are not doing. They're not adjusting to whether they're calling it close tonight, get your fucking hands off. Don't pick up no stupid fouls. They're calling it close. Hey Get your fucking hands off. Don't pick up no stupid files.

They're calling it close. Hey man, they letting shit go tonight. They letting shit go tonight, man. They letting shit go. They ain't calling shit, bro. I think that was used to be the recognition for me when I was playing. I mean, you figure that out.

You knew how to maneuver with the refs or run with them or run against them. If you're running against them, that mean you didn't get the memo in the captain circle. But there's always been players like Shane and James and shit that know how to get them fouls. I hated that shit. In Indiana, Tierra Gils-Marina presented by Underdog

Whoop Whoop for featuring two small markets in Oklahoma City and Indiana. I believe, uh, what? 22nd and 27th. Small markets in Oklahoma City and Indiana. I believe, uh, what? 22nd and 27th. Media markets based out of 28.

Obviously, TV is an expansive, which is why we are supportive. So there shouldn't even be no obviously 22 or 20. I'm just being bad. TV. No, I'm small market teams meeting in the five. It's one thing I really admire about the NFL. I mean, if we've got nobody celebrating again, it would be still getting around. You know, I'm for a team and it'd be great. They have collected, you know, to go to just by way of background. You know, we're going to have to go through a process of getting to the point where people are accustomed to tuning into the finals because the two teams

that deserve to be there and it's the best basketball, similar to, again, the two teams that deserve to be there and it's the best basketball, similar to, again, and now that's nerve-racking. If they were going to watch the Super Bowl, they wouldn't say, who's playing? It's a national holiday. And now that's, there's still, if the Knicks are in the finals, there's a segment of our anywhere close to that yet There's still if the Knicks are in the finals

There's a segment of our fan base that's gonna all this game may not watch if it's other teams But my job is to get people to love and follow this game And so that if you're a huge basketball fan, you should want to tune into the finals because that's the best basketball compared Packers this NBA Zambia finals, are small markets in the finals actually a good thing? The Zambia finals, are small markets in the finals actually a good thing for the league in the long run?

Yes. Salary caps and different things like that, is their formula for salary caps and different things like that is working right they are not letting the Lakers and these teams without the outcome of each free and I'm letting them dictate the outcome of each free agency so so it's working the formula that they're trying to implement is working so embraced during his testimony this would be a formula that was back in the day wrong I implement is working so. When you say back in the day, what day? I know the opposite team was probably, like Chicago, would they be considered a big market?

If Chicago was in the finals now, would they be considered a big market? Yeah, would Michael Jordan be on their team? I don't know. They do have to give them. Like if they had that team, I think it depends. Like, I don't think we would be saying it was a small, like, I don't think we'll be saying it was a small like I don't think we'll be saying it was a small market if I keep going back, but man was in the finals right now when uh

Yo, what is here's a small market? They did when uh Yoke ish was in the finals. Did they say it was a small market? Yokeage was in the finals. Did they say it was a small market? They did. Shea is here. And obviously they're having a conversation about the small market. So it actually is not something that's fake. It's a real-

It's OK. See, we can't even- Nobody said small market name. Miami. It was. Who they play against? Miami. Who's small market? LeBron James.

Did they not- Who they play against? Miami. Who's small market? LeBron James. Did they play against? Miami. LeBron James. I'm just saying. That's what I said. It depends on the player. West Brooklyn was playing.

You want me to explain it to you? I can explain it. I can explain it. CBA. They released an article after the CBA called Contraction. NBA going into Contraction. Contraction is to integrate all of the players in the big market teams and try to ease the small market teams out of the picture. So what happened

with the big threes after 2011? Big market teams, right? So you try to have a Neyana's conversation.. Where we pushing them to? Big teams like we've been having the Yanis conversation. Where we pushing them to? Big market. It's called contraction. They try to do that back then. It's full circle now. So it can win Milwaukee because the big markets hold all the money. But what we've proven is that Denver can win, Milwaukee can win, and this new team right now, whoever it is, they can win. So we're showing that small market teams have kind of went opposite of the plan that they've put out since then. 2012, contraction,

big market teams are going to win because they got big market. We got more money. But what they're finding is you don't mean you got better players. So with all that being said about small markets winning how is that panned out? What do you mean? How is it panned out? Because you just named a bunch of small market teams so why is that even a topic today? Denver won, Milwaukee won, all these small markets is one so we should be used to it then. So why are they complaining and making a big deal today? Because it is a problem.

Who's complaining? And we make these narratives towards the NBA though I feel like. We make them? NBA got a lot of negative narratives on it compared to other sports. So we can't accept who here and the reasons why. We've got to do the hypothetical. And the All-Star weekend to this shit, like, it's just, I don't know.

But I mean, I would say the product, and it's not talking about the finals, we're talking about the All-Star weekend. If the product's good, people will watch it. You say that, but the sort of product hasn't been good. So would you say the NBA All-Star game was a good product this year? No, he's agreed to the finals. The finals.

I'm watching every game of the finals. But I'm saying, but the finals at San Antonio was playing, who did they play in the finals one year? The Pistons. That wasn't a good finals, but there was low views year? That wasn't a good finals But there was low views, but it wasn't a good finals on who was playing but nobody wanted to watch I mean, it's just that was that the two smallest markets that played since this one Was that the last time to small markets played? Phoenix Milwaukee, huh? Oh Phoenix, Milwaukee

Yeah Phoenix, Milwaukee. Huh? Oh, Phoenix. Phoenix, Milwaukee? Phoenix, Milwaukee. Yeah? That wasn't bad. 1-21. And so it is. So we should be used to it then. But obviously. We wanted to see good basketball, Gil. That's the least I see.

Gil's reading and presenting my underdog, Woo Woo. Well, they don't have the power to control putting the big market team in the big spots. That's obvious. Cleveland won. They was winning out. Indiana ended up winning out. New York, a big market team, but they

didn't have big market players. They just like Indiana. Yeah. Right? So you like, you ain't really considering New York a big market. Because they players are not that that so all of the big players and big markets are out of the playoffs because why? Because it's chasing the bread over here and

not seeing the team is trying to build morale based on winning in a small market which builds up value in that small market. It may not be the value of a big market, but it's bigger than what they were before. Like Caitlin Clark coming to the fever, man, that's a jump and it don't matter where she go. So depending on how we look at the NBA, it's like, yo, the jump is going to happen somewhere. So the Caitlin Clark side of that, that's a star power thing. Right? Whatever star power, whatever team she would have been on but remember who was there the last two years they had two number one picks star power they're they're trying to build something that's always something get a little bit of boost you have the juice

minus 700 the Thunder entered the series as heavy Las Vegas favorites. Minus 700 to win the series, meaning you need to bet 700 bucks to win 100. Only six teams in NBA history have ever been large to win the title in the finals. And all six of those teams went on to eventually win the title. So any extra pressure on the Thunder due to being heavy favorites in these finals they're not worried favorites for a reason Brandon James crazy okay you saw the the post yeah okay yes you see that earlier. Yeah So I just have to look I just went back like how do For another another show. Yeah, the NBA draft quickly approaching but I'm looking at it like this like next season on this Thunder

Team, I'm like, mmm No extra pressure though on this Thunder Team guilt as a recent but dedicated devoted Thunder fan Unwavering loyalty pressure though on this Thunder team. Gil has a recent but dedicated devoted Thunder fan. Unwavering loyalty for this particular moment. What'd you ask him man? What did Vegas put? What does Vegas put? Minus seven fucking hundred. As any teams that was minus 700, have they lost?

Only 16 didn't make history, have been larger favorites in the finals. Any of them lose? They have all lost. Y didn't make history have been larger favorites in the finals any of them lose They all okay. Yeah, I'll probably want to get this man to stop wearing y'all gear and shit Cuz only team that he didn't like he's bandwagon jumping and shit, right? every team he didn't cheer for Well, yeah, okay, technically It was already going No, but you didn't pick the team right now though. You was already going. Indiana and Luce.

No, but you didn't pick the team right now though. So you're not going for Indiana right now. You picked your side now is what I'm saying. If Indiana win tomorrow, if Indiana win tonight, who you think I'm representing on Monday? I'm gonna be Indiana for sure. I'm gonna be Indiana. So I'm gonna win. I'm repping.

I'm not gonna argue with him. I'm not gonna argue, but I'm just saying. What was the start of the movie? Y'all ever seen that movie, The Bronx Tale? Yeah, great cinema. I bet not crap. What's the motherfucking Harlem Knight? The nigga told him to put the kid in the bathroom?

Little janky motherfucker, you? When I'm shooting. And I bet not crap. The Six Fees of Fortune. I can't stand of fortune look at his face put him in the bathroom he bad luck give bad luck I'm telling you know how horrible you have to be for Vegas to make it 700 a minus this is like a Mayweather fight is it 700 or is it a 9? I bet you it changed as a game. Is it 700 or is it 9? What was it when New York changed after game one?

What was the start of New York in Indiana? I'll find out after. I don't even know who it was. It was going back and forth during the series. I'm talking about the first game. I know everybody had New York. You know 700? That's literally a Mayweather fight. If you're going to bet, like we know Mayweather is going to win. But if you're going to bet with them, you're going to have to put Dows on it.

I got to put $100,000 to win 10. To win $10. It's still a good bet. They wasn't gonna win but if you're gonna bet with him you gonna have to put the house on it I gotta put a hundred dollars dollars away in ten Dollars, but it's still a good bet. What's the bet? Okay, see mine is 700 minus 700 you put seven You can win a hunt you got a bet my seven hundred to win a hundred Mike Tyson must have Douglas I Don't know what that Mike Tyson in training where he was I know but that's what I'm saying these boys in the and red I don't know what that's what I'm saying. These boys, Indiana Reds are motherfuckers. Fuck what all y'all talk about. How many teams have been above this?

Six other teams. Can you name those teams? Chicago, Chicago, Chicago. 2001 Lakers, 2018 Warriors, 96 Bulls, 99 Spurs, 2000 Lakers, 2002 Lakers. 2002 Lakers. So they had that on the offensive? Yeah, kicking our ass. That's a swept one, right?

Very close. Okay, very close. So that means that Denver playing against that YMCAT Miami, they had a better chance than this Indiana team is what they say? in but quickly is that where the Lakers hate comes from what no it just has been there I'm talking about fucking talking about him every day They were better than we were. Hey, I got a game shit. Yeah, I got a game here. Damn.

Damn. Damn. So don't you starve, bitch. God damn. Gazelle. Hold on. I'm playing in the finals and all that shit. I'll let you make it.

I'm just saying, man. all that shit. I'll let you make it leave me When gear was roasting you about not playing I let you make Get on it is a that is a your team. 2002. What is it? See, look at that. You're jumping to conclusion. Yeah, 2001, 2000 Lakers, 2002 Lakers. Yes, both Lakers. The 2004 Lakers were also minus 700 just for those. Yeah. They were?

Who was? So that's the only one that got upset? They did get upset. So they got 2004 Lakers going into the? Yeah. Damn. So Denver is the, I mean, Detroit was the only one that...

Yeah, I was shocked they lost that one too though. I ain't gonna lie. Small Markets in? Small Markets in, yeah. What was that series? What was that series? The Lakers in 04. Against Detroit.

4-1? Yeah. Yeah, they won. Carmelo fucked them up not being there, yeah. I thought it was at least two. They couldn't spread that floor for shit. What's serious was when Fisher hit that goddamn... Against the Spurs?

Oh, that was Spurs. Okay, yeah. So we asked the chat, is small market finals a good thing for the NBA? 78% of the chat believes that small market finals is good for the NBA. They will all be watching. No, they're not.

NBA finals tonight. They're not gonna be watching real basketball fans good So when the numbers come out it should be better than no Everybody on this chat is a real basketball fans watch we're not saying Lakers fans. No, they don't watch Basketball it is No, they don't watch. Everybody's fun. It's basketball. It is high-level basketball. What are you talking about? We know, yeah. Everybody's fun. Everybody's fun. I'll be watching the game, bro.

They want to know who's going to win. It's the two most deserving teams. There should be how many people in this world? One day when we come here on Monday, there shouldn't be no proof. So it should be how many people in this world? And it should be what? 30, 40,000 people watching these final games, right? I'm going to break a record.

I expect us to break a record. So that'd be, say, 1.7, 2.1, right? I'm going to break a record. I expect us to break a record. 1.7, 2.1. I think we're going to break a record for the Monday show because we're going to have two finals games to cover. My God, why do we live in fantasy world? It's only capitalized by good for the league when usually small markets is only capitalized by the city itself, right? Like the man said exactly what I was saying.

Oklahoma fans who don't leave Oklahoma for the most part, they will be watching their team. A New Yorker won't be watching. You don't think they'll be hate watching? They'll be praying on Tyrese Halliburton's downfall? Why hasn't it happened in life? Why is this a subject today? You don't think watch Milwaukee when Milwaukeean sons was there? Why wasn't the rest of the world watching for the views to be there?

Why are we pretending this is not a real thing and we're trying to talk in fantasy world? I was watching all of it. It is a thing. This man is having a full fucking conversation about the views. Is he not having a conversation on national TV about, hey, is this good for the league? Cause their ratings is probably going down.

Our numbers is going down because there's only a few teams in basketball, football, baseball that people generally wanna to talk about because There's more New York people in this world Around the world when you go to Laker games, right? If Lakers is playing in New York, are there gonna be Laker fans in there? Yes, if New York comes to LA is they're gonna be LA fans there, right? I mean New York fans there when L move, when Dallas goes and play,

I don't give a fuck where Dallas goes. They will have a large amount of fans there, right? But you say the same thing about the Steelers, who will take over the entire city. I don't give a fuck where old KC go. They not going to have no fans in Cleveland. They not, OK? They won't.

It's a thing, man. We can sit here and play around and try to convince each other that the NBA is benefiting from these two small markets. No, these two small markets benefit. Which is good for the NBA. But if we say franchises, if we say franchisesises the most expensive franchises in Sports I Don't need to know none of the goddamn sports but I can tell you what cities they possibly are in. Hmm

And I can tell you I'm sure none of them or at least half ain't even won no championship worth this shit But the city itself the franchise itself is worth a shit. But the city itself, the franchise itself, it's worth a lot of money because of this city it stays in. And I guarantee you there's gonna be teams that's won championships and they're gonna be somewhere at the bottom. Tomorrow the NBA just making their big market teams win every year.

Let me just cut the NBA to this. So I'm gonna just make sure a big market, cuz you can't. Cuz it would be obvious. Cuz you can't. It would be obvious. Cuz you can't, cuz you can't. Cuz we're over here in Cleveland, Milwaukee, Indiana. We're like, hey man, they got plans to put these big market teams in these slots, but we like, yo, fuck them.

How many championships have you had? Make it like NCAA. How many championships, how far you want to go back? I don't know, man. How many juice market teams have actually been in the market? That mean that small market teams can't even win. According to you, it's like it's not good for the league. I'm saying for the league. It's for the franchise for the league is great for

the league is a business the franchise is where it is no sense where people watching to be like yo the league does not benefit from two small market teams playing in the championship so no one should watch so we can prove that point no I was not you shouldn't watch you're not gonna watch, it's been shown. The fuck are you talking about? We are going to see who watches, we have nothing to say. We've been seeing it for the last 24 fucking years, man. So based on TV market size, this finals would be

between the two smallest markets combined of all time. I think 2007 Spurs, Cav, second, 1990 Blazers Pistons, then 2005 Spurs versus Pistons. So how many years has this been where this has happened? Three, four? Two, two, two, two. You're reading too far into it, man. No, you're not reading far enough into it.

So how many? Too good teams playing. How many times has this happened? Shit, Lakers got how many? So you're talking about the history? No, because we're- I'm sorry, that's- Are you acting like this is my fucking idea?

No, because we are supportive of whoever- No, you know what I mean? I'm acting like I'm making this shit up just because I did the research to see how often has this happened. Is it like that because North Lakers got so many championships? Yeah.

The teams there, you gotta be good many championships. The teams that won the championships in small markets got there because they were good teams. Not because they were in big markets. The small markets got there because they were good teams. Not because they were in big markets. But are you saying that the Army has seen big market teams in the finals because I've seen them at with ten times I think so we talked about the team. Let's talk about saying them at least I see them leaves with ten times in the championship The Lakers since These what six championships look but from the Kobe's I seen at least what six championships? Uh-huh

What's the point?, I've seen at least what? Six championships. Uh-huh, what's the point? Boston, I've seen. Miami, what's your point? What's the point? I'm saying from watching basketball, I've seen the big markets, and that's why I'm saying are we prone to seeing? Because that's all there's been.

Big markets and a championship. Hey, can I ask a question? This is just a hypothetical. This is your show. That's all we want to see. That's all we've been prone to see. Can anybody go to Bucs and find out what their ticket prices are before the championship? It didn't ask what the price is after the championship. You see how much their ticket prices actually went up in value and same thing that you know with OKC because I'm

sorry the market itself is itself that it's in not the team so there's only so much that the team itself can raise the price and there's only so many ads that the NBA can add on a market itself. Right? So when when the NBA is trying to sell NBA ads to these these corporations there's the market itself. The market has the benefit. I mean god damn it. They just it's the NBA why I ain't knows bro. Why? They're gonna be able to sell any ad spot. It's the NBA why I ain't knows bro. Why? They're gonna be able to sell any ad spot. It's the NBA Finals bro. Why?

You're gonna be able to sell any ad spot to anybody for the NBA Finals. Why haven't... What are you talking about bro? You're talking... It's like the Super Bowl. 50 years, how many times has this happened? Don't talk in reality. Reality we haven't. The last 20... How many? The last 50 years.

How many times has this happened? Two small markets? I think it's like four or five. Four or five! It's a rare thing? They not been able to sell the NBA five or five so it's a rare thing so it's a rare NBA finals so it's a rare thing so 45 other fucking championship there's been a big market team in it do you can see why they're fucking paranoid obviously if it's only four times what if do you can see why they're fucking paranoid. Why are they paranoid? Why are they asking these fucking questions? Because their ratings is going down. Wanna point that out.

But you know, And we've had some of our best shows. I just wanna point that out. But you know, you remember two weeks ago when the Knicks was in there and the Knicks was talking, 27,000 people in the chat. 27,000 play-offs. They may just be busy.

This is a 2017. And this is a motherfucking NBA play-offs. They may just be busy. This is a 1917 and this is a motherfucking NBA playoffs. They may just be busy. This is a championship So is the NBA in a bad place cuz these two teams? No, I don't think nothing is None of this is a twenty seven thousand thirty thousand in the chat We did Nick's was in the ball since was playing twenty seven thousand thirty thousand in the chat. We get to the fucking big game Seventeen thousand motherfuckers sitting there Yeah Yeah, cuz Yeah All right, let's do this on my heart check yeah Yeah, that's why

Yes, this is everybody who talked basketball. Yes. Yes being everybody who talked basketball Shit I started talking. I don't know shit about baseball. I don't know shit about baseball. I don't know shit about baseball. We asked our chat though for the 19,000 strong that have come to support us today. The other maybe busy will be watching the NBA final. I presented the chat real basketball fans today will be watching the NBA Final Final for a check And I presented the chat real basketball fans today will be watching the NBA Final Final for a check

19,000 19,000 right now. Mm-hmm. Hey, where my New York fans at? I ain't seen a blue orange flag It is my friends in that bitch either. Yeah, you know see no Laker fans and no Knicks fans Yeah, like my friends in that bitch either. Yeah, you know see no Laker fans and no Knicks fans Yeah, they all gonna be watching They're said that they're in the chair they gonna be watching everybody going finals MVP though Vegas list She has a favorite when the finals MVP at minus 550 finals MVP though Vegas list SG has a favorite when the finals MVP at minus 550 followed by Tyrese Halliburton at plus 700 Minus 550 next closest is plus what 700 we got a Nick

What do you say? They're not happy are we got a Nick fan and a car fan sitting next to each other? I couldn't hear you over there. I couldn't hear you both down bad in here. You need a mic I can't hear you but the player said he was over there. You see what he's saying over there So would you take it in here? You're Mike? I can't hear you But the player said he was over there. You see what he's over there? I need a mic, I can't hear you. The player said he was over there. So would you take SGA or the field? Kuzo has just as good of a chance as everybody else. Let's just say that.

Kuzo has just as good of a chance as everybody else. Let's just say that. That's what Vegas is saying. What's going on? You said the black one? The black carousel. Wait, what? I mean, it's God damn.

The both teams do have extensive rotations. God damn, dawg. They got about 60. Do have extensive rotations. God damn, dawg. They got about 16 players between the two teams. He could be one of the 18 players in the both teams rotations return to the chat

Your year for all of you. I mean our next fans have returned to the chat. Yeah Yeah, for all of you. I mean, yeah So last but not least as a reminder 50 day minus 300 or minus 200. I want to get your official Gills reading a present of my underdog. Whoop. Whoop. Let's go around the couch. I want to get your official gills reiner presenter my underdog whoop whoop. Let's go around the couch. I want to get your official gills reiner presenter my underdog whoop NBA finals predictions. Swaggy we will start with you. Championship experience. So okay see in... Six. Okay.

You have elected to go with Oklahoma City Thunder in six. Hundo on it. With Gilbert Arenas rocking the Oklahoma City jacket custom. Hundo. I just don't want it to be a sweep. Put a hundo on it. It's either a sweep or a six. Money.

They might need money. On it. Depends on how they want it. They might need more money. Put a hundo on it. On it. Depends on how they want it. They might need more money. You sleep there, plus these rings. Think about it. Honey, you know what?

Put a hundred on it, Nick. Think about it, T. Honey, you know what? Two hundred. Two hundred on it. What, they got to win it six or four or five? They don't get the money. So if they win it four or five. Win it six. But what if they win it four or five? you don't get them over so they win it before five winning six

But what if they win a four or five? You don't get the money Anything over five is You know you lose huh you lose sweet sweet Yeah, if you sweep you know you lose huh you lose sweet, too But they're gonna look seriously that's something Let's move over to Gilbert arenas the namesake of Let's move over to Gilbert arenas the namesake of gills arena Let's move over to Gilbert arenas the namesake of gills arena presented by underdog

Hey, I think he's gonna get it. It's probably your NBA finals prediction, please. Yeah, it's already over It's probably the only championship besides like 96 Over it's probably the only championship besides like 96 and whether they already got the nigga name on it and shit I mean Vegas two three four I mean it really doesn't matter but uh Oklahoma and two three four I mean it really doesn't matter Oklahoma city two three the game's over man it's just going out there simulating it at this point it is a simulator I mean you guys crazy let's move on to the distinguished gentleman from oak cliff former number one pick that's crazy Let's move on to the distinguished gentleman from oak lip Former number one pick can you that's crazy? Let's move on to the distinguished gentleman from oak lip Former number one pick can you Martin can you what is your NBA finals prediction paces and six? Basketball picking I'm just watching what I'm watching and I know them boys all the memos and bets and

Parley's and all this shit that I know them didn't give us the all the memos and bets and parlay's and all this shit. I know them, all the memos and bets and parlay's and all this shit. That memo didn't get to motherfucking Indianapolis. So, that's all. So, wearing the K-Way Clark, Indian, last but not least, Money Making Sonny. Wearing the K-Way Clark, Indiana Fever Jersey. I got the fever. I got the fever. You have the fever. Pacers in seven.

The couch is divided. Pacers in seven. The couch is divided. This side rolling with the Indiana Pacers. Oh man, I mixed the Thunder, Mr. B, who cannot be with us today. For the record, 65% of the chat has picked the Thunder, Mr. B, who cannot be with us today.

Busy getting turnt up on social media these past few days. He said, OKC and Six with SGA as the final. Next week. Presented by Underdog. Hey, when is the game? This series should be on foot. Next week. Presented by Underdog. Download the Under game? this series should be on for next week presented by underdog

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Y'all in this trade, what's the nature? Y'all ready to go with the narratives. This is Gilser in narrative free since 2003. Narrative free. So do you think events Carter it's from underdog user for the culture so do you think events Carter and T Mac had stayed together they would have won a title in Toronto events Carter and T Mac back then what would have been the Raptors first championship? You know? Back then? The Texas other pieces, it's a tough era, bruh.

So... What is this, what, 90s? What, 2000, 2001? Fucking in-row. He went to Orlando, what, 2000, 2000? No? They had to go through Shaq Nim. Tim Duncan early.

Resounding no. And that was the... The census. No, they had to go through Shaq Nim, Tim Duncan, early resounding no. That's actually smart because you don't really put that into the equation of who they going up against. You'll put it, Tim Duncan, Jack. What they at? All them boys over there.

Y'all need. Bro. Tim Duncan, Jack. What they at? All them boys over there. Y'all need more than that. They had a hard time with Philly, Milwaukee, out that motherfucker.

Damn, with them getting out of there. How about Glenn, how about Glenn Roberts and the motherfucking Ray Allen? Big. Who, who going who? Just them two. How about Glenn, how about Glenn Roberts and the motherfucking Ray Allen. Who? Who guard who? How about Glenn Roberts in the motherfucking Ray Allen? They proved that in the playoffs too.

Shit, they almost lost to one. But you just needed more. He had them up three ones. You always needed more. You needed more back then. You niggas was just almost one shit. You're amazing with that. Get out the East so the answer is that. The question is almost. Wouldn't they?

Get out the East, so the answer is no. The question is a if. The answer is no. We answering the question, that's an if. Cause they couldn't get out the East, so the answer is no. Then why I keep saying if? Because they couldn't get out the East. And my answer is yes.

No. They couldn't go nowhere. They can't get out the East. Yeah, that's what we saying. It's not an option, bro. It's proving they wouldn't go nowhere. They need more. Them two ain't enough. Cause I was thinking that. I said, they wouldn't go nowhere. They need more them two ain't enough cuz I was thinking

They were going nowhere. They need more them two ain't enough cuz I was thinking I said what happens if T Mac gets with AI in the East? What I'm gonna get shot they had a better chance. He got a better chance joining Chuck and Philly didn't stand with Vince They were going to more with the team Chuck and Philly didn't stand with Vince. They would want to. With Chuck and Philly didn't stand with Vince. They would want to. With the team Chuck had around him. Before we go, would you like to share the information that you've just secured?

He sent a text earlier in the show. Did you get a response to that text message, Gilbert? Two words. The text message that he sent. He did send a text earlier in the show. Did you get a response to that text message, Gilbert? Two words. What'd he say?

The last word was bro. First word, mini. The phones have been working. The question that we were... Mini bro. Mini bro. What? The phones have been working.

The question that we presented earlier. That he said he text Yannis' brother and asked him if he had called and free agent. And it was a one word answer. And that one word that one word did it come from Yannis? Okay, okay. You're right. And all that no ladies and gentlemen we have to gear up for the NBA finals. I know you do as well. The most exciting NBA finals in 2025. Shout out to everybody in the chat for pulling up the show. Shout out to everybody on this couch. Shout out to Underdog. Okay, I'm gonna be drunk tonight. That's the only thing you can do. This has been another episode.

That's only a WMB when I'm like. I could have been wrong. You gotta really get drunk to enjoy that game. This has been another episode of Dill's Arena presented by Underdog. What world? We'll see y'all next week. I know that, man.