Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena BATTLES Over How The Bucks SAVED Their Season

Episode Date: December 4, 2024

Gil's Arena Breaks Down How The Milwaukee Bucks SAVED Their Season as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to the Bucks winning 9 of their last 10 games to completely turn around their season a...nd discuss what Giannis Antetokounmpo, Damian Lillard and Doc River did to save the team after a nasty first few games. They then react to Karl Anthony Towns & The New York Knicks' VIRAL win over the Orlando Magic where the Knicks finally looked like they're starting to gel and establish themselves as a true contender in the Eastern Conference. Next, they flip the script to the West where the Golden State Warriors have cooled off significantly after their hot start to the season, losing 5 straight games and plummeting in the standings which sparks a debate on if the Dubs are surrounding Steph Curry with a winning team at this point in his hall of fame career. Finally, they react to the WILD reports that Ja Morant is looking to quit dunking and give their predictions on who will take home the NBA Cup as the Quarterfinal matchups have finally arrived. Please leave us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Rashad McCants, & Brandon Jennings Gil's Arena Merch is Available NOW at https://gilsarenamerch.com/ Use code GIL10 for 10% off your SeatGeek order https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL10 Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Cash and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Watch Warriors vs Timberwolves With The Gil's Arena Crew This Sunday on PlaybackTV! https://playback.tv/gilbertarenas SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:02:02 Kendrick's Toronto Tour Stop 0:13:50 Gil's Legendary Adidas Basketball Shoot 0:24:02 TNT's 2k Stream 0:32:03 KAT & The Knicks STOMP Out The Magic 0:40:05 Franz Wagner's Breakout Season 0:47:55 How The Bucks' Saved Their Season 1:00:23 Better Franchise Player? Giannis or Jokic 1:21:11 Why Energy Isn't The Bucks' Problem 1:27:11 Warriors Lose On A Blown Call 1:35:43 Warriors 5 Game Losing Streak 1:43:22 How The Dubs Screwed Up Kuminga's Career 1:49:48 The Problems With NBA Evaluations 2:11:03 Ja Morant QUITS Dunks 2:18:13 NBA Cup Predictions 2:30:28 MostlyFans 2:33:52 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:40 Gil, you've been doing your thing with the Caucasian football jerseys recently. Yeah, it ain't February. Okay. It ain't February. February you gotta bring out all the dolls. You saving them. You know since it's only 28 days I might have to double some of them. You know what I mean? Half, first half, second half just to get all ours. Bro it's okay. What's going on Brandy? You look a little. He was, were you sitting here yesterday? Where were you yesterday? Where was he the other day? Monday. I was over there yesterday. He was happy over there, man. He was 2-0.
Starting point is 00:01:11 I lost one game yesterday. Twice. No, I didn't. The connection... Bruh, stop. Bruh, stop. This man... Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:19 This man literally lost the game. I lost one game. Like... Hey, shot. I lost one game yesterday. The score is 21-7. He just- I had the ball. I'm about to score.
Starting point is 00:01:27 Why would I- He wasn't even- Why would I- He was on my 20. How come I don't get to watch? No, no, no. I don't know. You can't watch it.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Why you never want to play? Because y'all not on Twitch. You got to Twitch it, man. Oh, you're right. Yeah. Then I can watch it. This man hit pause, right? He hit pause.
Starting point is 00:01:43 You can hear it. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Oh, my God. Then... Game over. He comes back and says, you know, Kayce, you're doing too much. Like, stop, dawg. She was! Listen, pause, ding, ding, ding, ding, like...
Starting point is 00:01:55 She was unplugging shit in the back, bro. Is this man about to quit and didn't quit? She was unplugging shit. Quit. Just take a listen. When you can't score, you can't score, man. It's easy, man. They made a song about that, right?
Starting point is 00:02:12 Turn your TV off. Turn your TV off. Oh! Dirt! Dirt! Did it. That was the quickest unplug, plug back, and reboot I've ever seen. Touch your buttons in the back. Touch reboot I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Touch your buttons in the back. He's a sore loser. He's a sore loser. He's a sore loser. That's all. Sore loser, sore winner. Uh-oh. I'll be mad when I win.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Hey, man. You mad when you win? I've never seen this like, as soon as the game start, right, he'll say a couple words, throw a turnover, don't score. He don't pick up the mic. He literally probably puts the headphones down, right? Well, I don't want to break it. As soon as he scores...
Starting point is 00:02:54 Say something. You get... Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Man, come on, man. Stop this. It's a tough crowd.
Starting point is 00:03:02 I'm losing. I muted. Oh, he muted. Yeah, I this. It's a tough crowd. I'm losing. I'm muted. Oh, he muted. Yeah, I'm muted. I'm muted.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Yeah, I'm muted. Wolf tickets, man. You punch him in the face early. Yeah, you punch him in the face early. You ain't got to worry about him no more. He ain't quit. I was talking cash shit against Rashad. I was at 14-0. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Rashad walked me down. No more. I don't want to shoot on mute. No more. For all the fans out there, we got Battle Mode coming back soon. We are doing it bigger and better. I'm not even a part of it, but I'm about to come just pull up, see what y'all got going for us.
Starting point is 00:03:34 I do. A lot of traffic. Am I invited? Yeah, yeah, of course, man. It's going to be some work there, man. No, I'm going to stay home. Zoom in. I'll zoom in.
Starting point is 00:03:41 You got to go to his feed, because in the trenches. In the trenches, man. It's a little to go to his feed. Because in the trenches. In the trenches. It's a little different. It's a little different in the trenches. But this is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. As always, we got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us. What up? Representing Tough Crowd, Tough Crowd University in the Milwaukee Bucks, Mr. B, Brandon Jennings.
Starting point is 00:04:01 And Gil's Arena. And Gil's Arena merch. Season 3 merch, gil'sarenamerch.com. We still got the 40% off for y'all being cheap. Okay, Brandon Jennings. And Gills Arena. And Gills Arena merch. Season 3 merch. GillsArenaMerch.com. We still got the 40% off for y'all being cheap. Okay, see? We already know. We got the discounts for y'all.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Extended it beyond Black Friday. To light-skinned Wednesday. And we got the bat. The man known as Cemetery Larry, Rashad McCants. Back in the house. No, no, no, no, no. You see the McKiss. He's back in the house. Like, he a real dude. No, no, no, no. You have to... You see the outfit,
Starting point is 00:04:29 you got to give him the signal. What is it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Tim's in every... Okay. A real New Yorker today. He got butter zones. He got season tickets. Okay. He not New Yorker today. He got butter zones. He got season tickets.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Okay. He not playing? Since 0-2. He on a board with everything. The NBA Cup is important now. All New Yorkers bringing back 0-2. 0-2. These the 0-2 towns. All you need is a long do-rag that just hangs out for no reason.
Starting point is 00:05:00 And the Avericks, the leather jacket. Give me my leather. You definitely got to get your... Yeah, man. We trying to bring it back. The NBA Cup is important now, I see. Y'all trying to hang that banner. There's some people in and there's some people out.
Starting point is 00:05:11 You know, I think we're going to be playing for the Cup this year. Okay, we'll see. You know, we might be playing then. We might be in Vegas. Who? To see it go down. For the Cup. We'll wait.
Starting point is 00:05:23 We'll see. Oh, you already know. We have some things to address. I had to pull out the buck. Tough crowd. Oh, his confidence. The tough crowd fit. Oh, you back outside. He back outside.
Starting point is 00:05:31 You didn't crawl from under the bed. You did it right. You see, when I went to Milwaukee, play my clip. See, we ain't stock dancing since. Get it, Mr. B. Get it, Mr. B. Shit. It's been cracking ever since.
Starting point is 00:05:39 It wasn't even your fault. It was his. It was his fault. It was his fault. It was his fault. It was his fault. It was his fault. It was his fault. It was his fault. It was his fault. Get it, Mr. B! Get it, Mr. B! Shit. It's been cracking ever since. It wasn't even your fault.
Starting point is 00:05:48 It was his fault. It's the other dude who got the mojo. He the one who got the winning spirit. And I always, when the clips are up, I always wonder what that dude is doing. Yeah! He's like, man, we got to fight this. He's like, we got to jack damn something up. For all the fans out there, we still got two viewing options for you.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Our traditional version, a mobile vertical version. Pick whichever one you want to watch. Just make sure you support the show. Here's what's cracking in the arena today. The NBA Cup group stage is complete with eight teams advancing to the knockout round. But which squad will follow in the Lakers' footsteps and take home the crown? Ooh. The Lakers did win the hardest NBA Cup in history.
Starting point is 00:06:25 Maybe the Knicks will join us. That is yet to be determined. Huh? Who was MVP? LeBron James. LeBron James. Oh, I forgot, yeah. Five-time champion, LeBron Raymond James.
Starting point is 00:06:36 The Warriors have lost five straight games as they are still figuring out their rotations. Are they doing enough to surround Steph with a contending level squad? Steph dealing with knee tendinitis, jankles, all types of stuff. But we'll see what's going down in the Bay. And Mr. B's Bucks have won nine of their last ten games. Hey!
Starting point is 00:06:56 Are the top seed in the NBA Cup, number one overall seed. It's time to start putting some respect on free time and Doc Rivers' names. Before we get into all that, as always, this show is brought to you by some respect on free time and Doc Rivers' names. Before we get into all that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog. Go ahead and download the app. Use promo code GIL. Get up to $1,000 in bonus cash, plus a special pick-em. As for tonight... Freak. Freak, yes. Green freak. He a fan. He a fan.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Man. As for tonight, GIL has some picks up in his partner pack on the Underdog app. Let's take a look. Okay, you got LeBron Raymond James Sr. Higher 19.5 points. Do you think he's going? Yeah, he's Miami. He's going to break that 20 streak.
Starting point is 00:07:31 He's still got that beef. He ain't letting that beef. He wanted chocolate chip cookies. Yeah, he ain't letting that go. You can't take a man's chocolate chip cookies. He had a close one last year. You know, Cam Reddish could have put us over the top. Did not.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Anthony Davis, higher 39.5 points, rebounds, and assists. You think AD's going to bounce back, too? Because it was nasty in Minnesota, Gil. I'm not going to lie. Yeah. It was nasty. You got Jason Tatum, higher, 2.5 three-pointers made. Obi Toppin, higher, 13.5 points, rebounds, and assists.
Starting point is 00:08:01 And Ice Trey, this is the one that concerns me, Gil. Higher. Stop with the... Oh, you did higher. Wait, you did higher. I'm tripping. I thought it was higher. Oh, okay., and assists. And Ice Trey, this is the one that concerns me, Gil. Higher. Stop with the... Oh, you did higher. Wait, you did higher. I'm tripping. I thought it was higher. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:08:08 You did higher. He can fuck around and get a rebound. I know. He can fuck around and get a rebound. One. Give it to me. Playing 12-1. KD messed me up yesterday, man.
Starting point is 00:08:17 This entry is boosted as well, Gil, so you have a chance to win, what? 13.46. 13.46. Times your bread if you follow Gil's partner pack. Let's see...'s see always one off what is one but you do the
Starting point is 00:08:31 Use protections no protection today. Are you raw dog? Oh, yeah Smell good, right got a perfume on okay. She smelled like she's Safe I trust her. Wow. Wow. I trust her. Hey, it's gonna be the main motherfucker. Roll the dice. The main motherfucker gonna burn them, too. Oh, man. Listen.
Starting point is 00:08:58 The main man at the top gonna burn them from the top. It's always the top. It's always the top. Hey, Sean. Gonna burn them from the top. It's always the 10. Going to burn him from the top. It's always the top. It's always the top. It's always the top. It's always the top. It's always the top. It's always the top.
Starting point is 00:09:08 It's always the top. It's always the top. It's always the top. It's always the top. It's always the top. It's always the top. It's always the top. It's always the top.
Starting point is 00:09:16 It's always the top. It's always the top. It's always the top. It's always the top. It's always the top. It's always the top. It's always the top. It's always the top.
Starting point is 00:09:24 It's always the top. It's always the top. It's always the top. It's always the top. 57? No, 57. No, fading. They're not riding. Usually the 60s fade in me. Mm-mm. Oh, 50? Oh, so that means... Oh, no, they said you cooked. Oh, so they said he cooked. Yeah, he cooked. Yeah, usually 60s say I'm cooked.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Now it's 54. That is progress. Progress is a slow process, but we are making moves. How do y'all feel about... Oh, that's going down, right? They've been looking at it like four for five. Hey, I'm not going to lie. He almost got the one that I told him about.
Starting point is 00:09:52 What was it, the rebounds? Jason Tatum. Jason Tatum, yeah. I told you he was going to get the rebounds in the first quarter. Yeah, but you had it right there. That was funny. KD yesterday, I need a.5. He wanted to sit down for the next three minutes.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Shad, if Bron goes over 20. Can you put the jersey back on? You want me to put the jersey back on? No, you bad luck. You bad luck. Keep it on. I'm asking, man. I told you I'd go get the different colors. What do you call him?
Starting point is 00:10:17 He's a mush. Hey, yo, is that Kenyon Martin 3? Hm? That ain't no Brandon Jennings 3, bud. No, no, he would not. It's the main cell. They ain't sell those. We know who it is. The best Nick. It's the, bud. No, he wouldn't. No, that's not true. They ain't sell those. We know who it is. It's the best Nick.
Starting point is 00:10:27 It's the best Nick. No, John Starks. Oh, John Starks. No, no, that's too new. That's too new. That's too new. That's too new. That's the best Nick.
Starting point is 00:10:35 That has to be Mulberry. Mulberry. Yeah, that has to be Mulberry. I knew Gil would like this, John. That's their Reebok. Back when John Starks played, I think it was with- Spaulding? Champion Spaulding.
Starting point is 00:10:46 You know, they just. Pro win. Pro win. British Knight. British Knight. British Knight. Jesus. Couldn't wear those in some parts of the city.
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Starting point is 00:11:11 eventually he will come through and deliver, get y'all some bread. But as always... Just look, just whatever one you think is suspect, just take that out. That's it. Because the other ones is boom. Gil, you know how it works, though. As soon as you take it out, whatever one it is.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Whoa, whoa, whoa. The pick. Whoa. That's not a plausible moment, though. Excuse me? It's not a plausible moment. It's really not a plausible moment. Just don't say it again.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Just don't try to repeat it. Everyone you remove is the one they hit. You remove the LeBron 19.5. He'll measure out 25 in the first quarter. Yeah, but instead of five, you got four. It's still, you know, just pick out the one you don't like. And as always, we do Mostly Fans at the end of every show. If you drop a good question in the chat with your underdog username,
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Starting point is 00:12:06 $100 bonus. You can't watch the show live with us on YouTube. We got audio versions available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts. So, earlier this week, Kendrick announced he's doing his Grand National Tour, which will be a North American stadium tour across the nation. And there's even a stop in Canada. That's right. Kendrick's going to be in Drake's hometown, no less. Pulling up to Toronto, we'll perform in the Rogers Center along with SZA, home of the
Starting point is 00:12:35 Blue Jays, during Father's Day week on June 12th. Father's Day is a week now. We deserve it. Family matters. Good proud dance. Family matters. We're trying to push a narrative here, so it's Father's a week now. We deserve it. Family matters. Family matters. We're trying to push a narrative here, so it's Father's Day week now. Imagine meeting the Grams in Toronto.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Imagine that. Gee, the first time I heard this was at the concert in Toronto. Not enough. Did you hear, did you hear, um, Cam Newton? Mm-mm. Oh, you didn't hear Cam saying, uh, Lil Wayne, you need to come out and throw a diss track? Mm-mm. And say, yeah, Drake ain't built for it.
Starting point is 00:13:23 He ain't going to go low enough. Um, Lil Wayne, you need to do something. Lil Wayne's never been tested. Wayne's never been tested in no rap battle. Everyone's been scared of him. He's been boogieing. He's been Kendrick the whole time. Yeah, Pusha went at him, but he never responded to Pusha.
Starting point is 00:13:41 But the problem Gillian that don't really don't count. The problem is this I don't think they realize Kendrick Pac-man with the pellet Run This is when you run like like he is Michael Phelps in Beijing Wow, he is 87 88 Jordan right now. He is 2015, 2016 Curry.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Move. Right, this is when you got to realize when greatness is at the door and the rap gods is blessing him. Nothing. Move. I don't got it. Whoever think you about to ride the wave, he is not on that time right now. In fact...
Starting point is 00:14:28 He's crushing all opponents. Right. Yeah. 72 Miami Dolphins. He might be worse than Kanye. 2023 NBA Cup LeBron. He's worse than Kanye in the rap game. Huh?
Starting point is 00:14:37 No. Kanye, I mean, worldwide, Kanye says some crazy stuff, but as far as the rap, he's worse than Ye. He's... Yeah. He's 92 Dolphins. Undefeated with the championship. You got to look at the opportunity that presented itself with Kendrick
Starting point is 00:14:49 knocking off the biggest dude in the hole on the yard. You walk on the yard, you knock the biggest dude out, everybody's like, yo, we never thought anybody could do that. Nonetheless, even really think that they should do it. Pusher didn't think he should do it. He was responding. They going back and forth. This is Kendrick saying, man, it ain't enough room for me
Starting point is 00:15:11 and you no more. But smart move for Kendrick to do a show in Toronto. Yeah. Given the situation. Yes. Yes. In the Rogers Center. Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Don't matter. It don't matter. Because it's music. It's music at this point. It ain't like no threat, no violence, none of that. It's like, now can I steal your fans? So you think you're just going to walk into Toronto with no- Can I steal your fans?
Starting point is 00:15:31 Why shouldn't he? I'm just saying, so you're just going to walk into Toronto with no, you don't think they're going to do anything petty? No. Can I steal your fans? It's music. It makes you look bad. Way real bad.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Real bad. Like, it's no different different in I won the game I want to plant my thing in here and you you were sore loser. So you got a You know, you could be at the border fade ten hours, I mean the country I mean if you want to be on it I mean, I'm just saying with Drake connections like in Canada is gonna be a problem for you You get off that lax you get off now I'm not saying I'm not saying like somebody's gonna get I'm just saying the pettiness of it like but you know That's what I'm saying this Pac-man right now. He you your ghost right everything you do right now Is gonna bounce off of them. So there's no point in even trying to pull it
Starting point is 00:16:21 Don't even try to ruin the show it makes you look bad No, what I'm just saying if someone tries to ruin the show. It makes you look bad. What I'm just saying, if someone tries to ruin the show, you got your goons out there, it don't make Kendrick look bad. It makes y'all look bad. He's on a whole another planet right now. Let me ask you this then. Drake has a tour in Australia. Is it
Starting point is 00:16:38 smart for Drake to not throw shots during his tour? When Kendrick's tour is right after that. But why? Why are you still throwing shots? That's what I'm saying. So what is your tour?
Starting point is 00:16:51 I don't even care about the beef no more. What is your tour for? Is your tour to revive what's left? Are you going on tour to revive what's left? Because look where you're doing it on tour. You're not doing a tour where Kendrick's doing it. He's doing domestic. Let me go to the people.
Starting point is 00:17:07 You're going to the people who ain't seen you in a while. And they ain't Kendrick fans over there, so they ain't even going to be biased when you show up. Kendrick is big overseas. In Australia, it's Drake. No, but what I'm saying is you still got to move like you've been moving. You've been moving like you've been moving. You do a domestic tour.
Starting point is 00:17:25 You go to L.A. You go to New York. You go to Miami. For what? Because you just came off tour. At least Fresno. Before the beef started, remember, Drake was on tour when Like That happened. Like That came out, he was on tour.
Starting point is 00:17:38 He was like, I'm not even responding to this. But once he got off tour, I'm at y'all. Now he's going back on tour, but he got off tour, I'm at y'all. Now he going back on tour, but he not doing the same tour he was just doing. I know. It's a different tour. I'm going overseas. You avoiding the criticism.
Starting point is 00:17:53 It don't matter. It is criticism. There's nothing to prove. You don't get it wherever you go. Nah, nah. You safe over there in Australia. Nah, you're not safe over there. You still going.
Starting point is 00:18:01 What do you mean safe? If somebody want to boo, they going to boo. I already lost. What I'm saying is if I lost, I lost. Daru, what happened when them people showed up to that? 50 tried to destroy everything he did. But what I'm saying is if I already lost, what am I gaining? What is there to gain?
Starting point is 00:18:19 For me to not even win the battle, I lost the battle. Yeah. Right? The battle's lost. I have to continue to try to rebuild and do my thing, and maybe I can put some more armor on, and maybe four years from now we can go back at it. But right now, it's an L.
Starting point is 00:18:36 There's no fight here. Over here, we're not thinking about it being an L. We're trying to disintegrate you. Why? Then that's your problem then. Disintegrate you. You already knocked me out. You want to keep hitting me that I'm knocked out? I want to send a message. No, but he made a note. I want to sendate you. But then that's your problem then. Disintegrate you. You already knocked me out. You want to keep hitting me
Starting point is 00:18:46 that I'm knocked out? I want to send a message that this is what happens when you fuck with me. He makes good music though, so that's going to be hard. Like, you can't, like... Who makes good music?
Starting point is 00:18:55 Drake still makes good music. We haven't heard it since. Bro, we still play Drake's old music. That's the old Drake. His new stuff coming with him. What I'm saying? What I'm saying is... The old Drake. We love the old Drake. We love new stuff coming with the old Drake. What I'm saying is... We love the old Drake.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Come on, we can't deny it. The old Drake is like the old LeBron. We love the old Drake. We love the old LeBron. But all this recent shit, you tripping. You got to come up with something nice now. No, you think there's still a battle? It's over. I knocked you out.
Starting point is 00:19:22 I don't need to keep hitting you. Why not? For what? That says more about you than you. Say it again, Josiah. Why not? You don't tell me when I let my foot off the gas. You don't tell me when I get my foot off the boat.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Oh, no. You don't tell me when the tap out only exists in the octagon. You have no integrity. But that's what I'm saying. You have no integrity there. Rap is no integrity in rap. Ain't no integrity in rap. Like, I knocked you out, you sitting there asleep. Don't, you don't want to be the dude that want to now talk shit.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Then you want to start punching him while he's down. Yes, because he, you know what he was saying? You know what he was saying when he wasn't knocked out? You know all the crazy shit he was saying about my wife? Yeah, he's, but you- Boy! Do you think I'm just going to stop saying about my wife? Yeah, he's, but you- Boy! Yeah. Do you think I'm just gonna stop on a knockout?
Starting point is 00:20:08 Yeah. No! You should. No! Then wake him back up and then- No, we're not waking nothing up. We're not waking nothing up. Don't put yourself in a position to get knocked out.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Nah, nah, that's- Because he's going back on tour? That's- Man, listen, the beef is the beef. The beef ain't never over. So wait, so if you whooping my ass, I'm like whoop my ass I do you got it. I'm done. So I'm going like no Jay still drop music right when Nas drop music He dropped something just to make sure it don't get the shit that he they bought the job. They beef still lingering, bro
Starting point is 00:20:43 They made music together. Yeah, it's cool, but it's still there. We will see how this beef pans out. Nah, it ain't on. We will see how this beef pans out. Still there. White flag, man. You ain't never gonna stop beefing with a nigga that called you out.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Nah, man, I'm done, man. He said what? He said what? First of all, I'll be tired. You think that Drake can push a team beef ever gonna stop? Yeah. You're honest, bro. I'm done. I'll be tired. You think that Drake can push a team beef ever? It's going to stop? You're honest, bro. I'm done. I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:09 You're honest with me, man. No, you don't want people to take L. Listen, the beef, I took L. All right, boo, you do your thing, I do my thing. We don't have to speak, but I don't want to keep going back and forth. Have you ever heard when somebody said, man, he whooped my ass, but he whooped my ass every single day. Because the beef will never stop until I either beat his ass.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Or he's just going to beat my ass every day. That's reality. Those are fights that kind of, it could have went both ways. No, I've never seen someone get knocked out by Tyson with the one punch uppercut. And then wake up, yeah, it's going to be a round two. There was never a round two. No, they felt that round one. They felt that uppercut.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Thank you for saying it, dude. That almost had their hand cut off. There was no round two. It was a first round knockout. Nobody's asking for a round two. But it was a first round knockout. I just want it to be acknowledged. It was a first round knockout. Good music. I just want it to be acknowledged. It was a first round knockout.
Starting point is 00:22:06 It was King Kong and it was Godzilla. We want to see who won. It was a first round. One showed that, hey, we're not even on the same planet. They was going at it. And we like, you right. It wasn't no one. They was going at it for us.
Starting point is 00:22:18 You just said no round twos, bro. All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. First round knockout. This beef pans out. We're going to back down memory lane with a tough question that I saw on the app, formerly known as Twitter. So Timeless Sports posted a photo from a legendary Adidas basketball shoot back in 2007 featuring KG, T-Mac, Chauncey Billups, Tim Duncan,
Starting point is 00:22:38 Dwight Howard, and our very own Agent Zero. Look at you get out there cheesing. All right. Turn up. So five of the six players in the photo are Hall of Famers with Dwight Howard's induction all but guaranteed. And Gil would have been the sixth if the basketball guys could have turned injuries off. But looking at this, we got six players. We want to do a starting five. Who is coming off the bench on that spot?
Starting point is 00:23:00 At that point in time or just period? Gil, this is your show. No, no. I'm just saying. You got to give me the criteria. I was thinking that point in time. Give me the context. That point in time or just period? This is your show, so I'm just throwing it there. You got to give me the criteria. I was thinking that point in time. Give me the context. That point in time, 2007.
Starting point is 00:23:08 This, huh? 2007. Oh, during this 2007, then it'll be Dwight then. Dwight. And we're talking about that, this moment in time. Is that at UCLA? I don't know. Oh, see, I didn't see that.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Okay, so. If we're talking about 2007. Oh, we're just talking about just that. Okay. If we're talking about 2007. Okay Oh seven, okay seven the white came in with two thousand So let's say all six players at their peak at their peak who's coming off the bench girl With that group probably me You're humble. You're a humble. I'm gonna be honest, bro. I'm taking Tim down
Starting point is 00:23:52 Because I need because I suitors y'all like a G real KG and the white and Then you and what ends up happening is you can put KG at the three, but you would rather have to make at the three Yes, you right Whose feelings are we hearing? No, nobody because I want to you're talking about when you're scoring when I found when you're talking about The the team itself then you're talking about having Chauncey as the real point guard making sure everybody eats Man, listen, I want to score fast. You're talking about just getting to the coming off the okay That's fine for you. He might not even check in in. No, you crazy. No, you crazy. Chonsi, listen, I got Gil and Tracy McGrady coming off the downstairs. We have a dude that can play point guard and score.
Starting point is 00:24:30 He can do both. That's fine. We got T-Mac and KG, two, three. Say KG at the three. That's what I'm saying. I like KG at the three. He played a mid, and he's mismatched nightmare. Now, who's guarding KG at the three? Nobody. I don't like KG at the three. Then he can guard whoever at the three. What's up? I like Tracy McGrady at the three.
Starting point is 00:24:47 See, as I said, Tracy at the three, me at the two, Chauncey at the one is ideal. I'm bringing Tim off the bench because I want to run. I want to run, though. So I know what's – we're just going all pick and roll. We playing big. Get it off the glass. Get it off the glass.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Oh, trust me. Dwight Howard is going KG. Blocking everything. You got to shoot all threes. We're shooting before it hits. You're shooting all threes. And you got to shoot over contested seven-footers. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:25:10 We'll live with that. Shit, we'll live with that. We know how to play basketball over here. Nobody in 2007 can guard Trace and Grady at the three, so I'm rolling. No, you're ready to foul. So I got two people for sure that is for sure is getting a bucket. Nobody can guard a teammate at the two. to now the problem is me at the two That's why we don't I got a guard at the two. We're gonna hide. That's why I will put you where you go me
Starting point is 00:25:33 We're gonna hide you huh put you where you know, I mean I got defense back there. Oh, no boys That's what I'm saying. I'm not tripping Backwards I like I like it when people be like, yo, you didn't even play no defense. I didn't get paid to play defense. I got paid to do what I came to do. Put the ball in the basket with fashion. We all got paid.
Starting point is 00:25:59 I'm not telling you, listen. We all got paid to play defense. No, what I'm saying, I never told no defense to play. Hey, bro, you got to come out here and drop buckets. I never looked at Deshaun Stevens and said, hey, man, you got to give us 20 a game. He was getting paid to stop a motherfucker, right? He did it at his best ability. Don't tell me to do your job, because if I got to do your job, what the fuck are you here for? That's how I look at it.
Starting point is 00:26:23 You get paid to be basketball player. Yeah, now I'm a basketball player. Be a basketball player. Your specialties. Your specialties. On this team, you have specialties inside of those obligations. I mean, listen, if you want to try to, if you want to go score
Starting point is 00:26:36 80-some points with the motherfucker lineup, you got right there, cool. But if you're trying to get to 105, you might want me at the point, T-Mac at the two. Oh, OK. All right. So goddamn, motherfucker's in my way. But if you're trying to get to a hundred and five you might want me at the point team at get the two So goddamn one books in my way 105 with the truth the team I want y'all three guards Yes, cuz what cuz 80 points is gonna be with cage yet the three you need we need more you only got one basketball
Starting point is 00:27:04 We gotta shoot the ball 17 the stock is like 17. That's my rule. He won't 60. He won't 60. He won't 60. No, he won't. That's what he's talking about. Listen, if Derek Whitenim
Starting point is 00:27:12 can shoot that many shots, they can too. So we need nine threes from all y'all. And we can do it. Boo. You know who's going to start rebounding and blocking shots.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Give me the right. We need to touch the ball too. It's going to be easy buckets. Dwight Howard gonna average a double-double easy. What's so funny is I think we did talk about that, who's gonna start, and everybody, yeah, Dwight, you six-pack. Yeah, baby, you talking about...
Starting point is 00:27:35 Because at that time, right? You know what I mean, at that time. You talking about overall now. So we asked the chat, who's coming off the bench? 49% said Chauncey Billups. 32% said you, Gil. 12% said Dwight. They agree with me.
Starting point is 00:27:49 And we gave them a case. That's what I'm saying. It's either too slow. It's either either of us two. I don't care about that. You can come off the bench with all that. See, we need a board
Starting point is 00:27:58 or something so I can mark it. One. I mean, function... Listen, listen. Function-wise, you can't have Tim Duncan and you can't have Tim Duncan Dwight and KG yes, you can oh hell yes, you can
Starting point is 00:28:20 Video gaming Bitch video Video game real life yet the three this I put full sentence on that bitch. That's a video game. That's a video game. That ain't real life. All-star game, KG. Under. All-star game, KG played the three. You can't go under with the starting five. You have to go over.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Bucket. Me and Chauncey at the one, two, you have to go over. T-Mac. T-Mac, Duncan, Dwight, and KG switching all through. T-Mac, Duncan, Dwight, and KG switching all through. It all depends on the offense. If we're playing perimeter, we're trying to play fast, then KG for Duncan, right? We'll move KG for Duncan.
Starting point is 00:28:58 If we're trying to play inside-outside game, then I'll probably go with Duncan over KG. Push him off the line. And then KG, yeah. All right, well, let's... Because you got Dwight going to clean up everything. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, they did say that Lil Wayne did get in the booth.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Joe Budden's reported it. Lil Wayne has gotten in the booth. You can get in the booth all you want. So, just letting you know. Is it going to be booth, though? Getting that bag, too. I don't... At this point, it's...
Starting point is 00:29:24 At this point... Getting that booth, getting that bag, too. I don't, I don't, at this point, it's, at this point. Getting that booth, getting that bag. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, getting the bag. Yeah, flashbacks. Get your fucking legs in here. I know what's coming. I know what's coming.
Starting point is 00:29:38 At this point, Jordan showed who's Jordan, right? Fall back. Okay. You know what I mean? The goat is the goat, right? He back. Okay. You know what I mean? The goat is the goat, right? He got the crown. Everybody fights for second place. Stay the fuck out of the, what do they call them, the black cats?
Starting point is 00:29:53 Just stay out of his way. Don't look him in his eye. Didn't they start saying that shit? Don't look Jordan in his eye right now. Don't talk no shit to him because you're going to wake him up. That's where we are right now. Y'all can go in the booth all you want to, but we already
Starting point is 00:30:06 seen what he's gonna do, how he's gonna roll it out. It's gonna be disastrous. Let it go. Let that man just go on and make music and go back to wherever he came from, right? L-I-G, Reggie. If he came from Krypton, let his
Starting point is 00:30:22 ass go back to Krypton. Leave him alone right now. There you go. So, like I mentioned earlier, NBA Cup knockout round is set. But before we talk about the NBA Cup games, we've got to discuss some news that broke recently. So, on Tuesday, TNT Sports announced a collaboration with NBA 2K to present an NBA 2K25 Datacast alt stream for the knockout rounds of the NBA Cup on TruTV and Max. The stream will be overlaid with NBA 2K25 features, including the shot meter, badges, and video game camera angles.
Starting point is 00:30:51 So NFL announced a similar Madden All-Cast for the Texas Chiefs game later this month on Peacock. That will include Madden 25 graphics, root trees, player cards, and player ratings. CBS has done a Nickelodeon All-Stream past five seasons. ESPN and ABC have done animated versions of the game with players replaced by characters from The Simpsons and Toy ratings. CBS has done a Nickelodeon all-stream past five seasons. ESPN and ABC have done animated versions of games with players replaced by characters from The Simpsons and Toy Story.
Starting point is 00:31:10 But the TNT 2K NBA Cup all-stream announcement received some mixed reviews from fans. Some loved it, some hated it. But since I got three gamers on this couch, I gotta know, are y'all rolling
Starting point is 00:31:20 with an NBA 2K25 all-stream for the NBA Cup knockout games? So is this going to, like... So when we're watching it, we're going to be watching, like, watch 2K? That is, I think... Yeah, like, so it's going to hit the green beam and all that? Hey, listen, I'm sorry, man, but I got to see it. Like, I want to see, right?
Starting point is 00:31:47 You sitting on the ISO and then squares wide the fuck open and you just refuse to pass it to me. It looked like they took our idea from us watching Simulation. Wouldn't be the first time. How much we enjoyed watching simulation. We was doing that for at least three or four months,
Starting point is 00:32:09 just watching simulation games. So it's basically the same thing they're doing. We did do our all-time player draft presented by Underdog Woo Woo. I'm going to see it. I'm not against that they're going to put percentages
Starting point is 00:32:22 on the shots and we get to see, like... I just want to see how it's laid out, right? I can't knock something down. I want to see it. So, Shad, you said this in the group chat this morning, early hours. We were all waking up out of our slumber. You said this has completely ruined the real game. Why do you feel like it's ruined the real game?
Starting point is 00:32:41 Well, I mean, even as a gamer since Atari,, since the first Madden, the video game was the video game. You know, it was meant not to be real, not to be realistic. But the game is now so realistic that the real game is becoming a video game. So the influence of what we see now, what we complain about, is not necessarily what we have passed down to the next generation. It's what they're seeing in the video game. Think about when Joel Embiid and them get interviewed, and they say, what's your 2K rating?
Starting point is 00:33:15 They get mad about their 2K rating. Because it reflects their abilities on the court. But does it? Ronnie 2K is playing God with abilities. Uh-oh. Is he a vessel? I don't know. All right. Well, he can make sure you get an 85 or an 89,
Starting point is 00:33:32 and that's the difference between you dunking and when you get in the meter area or you fading away shooting the three. Now, think about if you're seeing Steph Curry doing what he's doing out there in the cup, and all you see in this video It's a video game now. You're watching a video game So why wouldn't I want to go out there and play like that?
Starting point is 00:33:51 So he's fucking a gamer. So you think so you think rotten Ronnie 2k is fucking up the game because of the ratings Well, we we've given him that we've given him the power You want to buy he giving him the access to the players? We've given them access to their their've given them the access to the players. We've given them access to their psyches to think that this is real. Your 2K rating actually matters. Right, so I'm saying... But that's always been...
Starting point is 00:34:13 I know. Because when it started, 2K... When it started, when I... What was that? 09, 2K, 2K9, 2K10. None of that 2K rating shit mattered because we just like the game. It was a fire game I mean, it's always video gaming has been a rating on it, but if we didn't care no place like it We didn't care about it. But did you ever say get back? We didn't realize I care about your real rankings high school college
Starting point is 00:34:40 Yeah, of course you Of course rank is his rankings but ratings in a video game your abilities And all that shit. I'm so couch I don't you're looking you like man. I don't dribble like that. I don't shoot like that Why they got my shot like that? So you think guys look at their ratings and they'd be like their three points percentages down you think you gotta go out there and get It up so it's better on 2k. So they'll go to the gym. So they'll go. Y'all know it's real. Y'all know it's real. You know it's real.
Starting point is 00:35:09 That's why I'm laughing. I gotta get my shit up because my 2K shit. I gotta get more dunks. I gotta get more layers. So I gotta go to the gym because my 2K rating is down. It's down. No, I think, no. I'm thinking that. You know it. Because if you complain and think about it, you're complaining. You're going on the 2K. You're looking at, alright, they're saying my inside shot is bad. Alright, my outside shot, my rebound and my blocking. You're going to go work on it. You're complaining. You're going on the 2K. You're looking at, alright, they're saying my inside shot is bad. Alright, my outside
Starting point is 00:35:26 shot, my rebound and my blocking. You're going to go work on that. You get more rebounds. You get more rebounds. You're going to the paint more. I get what he's saying. They know. They know what's going on. So your rating on 2K is what helps you work on your game. Depending on how you play. A hot streak, right?
Starting point is 00:35:41 What's your hot streak? If you got three games you score 30. Like with a video 30 like Jerry McCain? rating went up But isn't that feature new? No, they've been had that that's feature new word. It's a real-time. It's real-time ratings Yes for your if your ass was a fucking 55 you was a 55 all year No, but then look if you start playing well, you're going to be like,
Starting point is 00:36:06 just like in the video game, we're becoming real-time avatars, bro. It's crazy. Yeah, the video game makes you work on your game. That's crazy. So how many times are we going to see the green meter
Starting point is 00:36:17 when Steph pulls from... Yeah, I want to see it. Like, I got to see it. I want to see that. That's all entertainment purposes. I think Steph 3 on the video game was what, 98? 98, 99, yeah. I just want to see how they do it. I want to see that. That's all entertainment purpose. I think Step 3 on the video game is what, 98? 98, 99, yeah. I just want to see how they do it.
Starting point is 00:36:29 I want to see if it's green and that motherfucker brick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or it's red and then air ball. How it works. You want to see how it works. I just want to see how it works. No, for sure. That's entertaining.
Starting point is 00:36:38 That's fucking fire entertaining. But it takes away from the game, bro. There's no more game. If we appreciate this for its entertainment value, we not going to see no basketball no more. No, I mean, it's just like no different than, let's say, 3D and regular, right? You're going to have more kids, more youth,
Starting point is 00:37:00 watching video game style, right? Because, you know, they got to see all the splashing and you catch fire, now you sitting there with the red on. If that's going to be part of the... Then the regular people who just want to watch the game without all the extra, you know, shit going on, they're going to watch the game.
Starting point is 00:37:18 As long as they're given, you know, two versions, one's going to be for the youth and one's going to be for... Like, you got to entertain them motherfuckers somehow. They got ADHD at this point. They definitely do. That's for them. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:37:30 It's not catering towards the game more than it is to young people. Come watch this because it's more like 2K. You want to see them play like 2K? Steph plays like 2K for real. Yeah. Trying to make that bread. But football and basketball are in full swing. That's why I need to tell you about our special
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Starting point is 00:38:27 winner securing the East Group A and a berth to the NBA Cup quarterfinals. And New York put on their proverbial Timbs and proceeded to stomp the life out of the still-banned Carolist Magic. I see you, Shai. You came dressed to impress, ready to go. The big bodega led the Knicks with 23 points, 15 rebounds, and two blocks. Going 8 for 18 from the field, but 5 for 5 from the line. Jalen Brunson had 21 and 4 assists. He was 8 for 15 from the field. Mikael Bridges added 19 and 5 dimes.
Starting point is 00:38:56 OG Ananobi and Deuce McBride both chipped in 18 points each, with OG shooting 70% from the field, and McBride hitting 5 of his 7 threes. And Josh Hart. Oh, there it is. There it is. We've seen it before. Yeah, cat. I thought it was a foul.
Starting point is 00:39:12 He got his boogie get back. He got his boogie get back. Josh Hart dropped his second triple-double this season with 11 points, 13 rebounds, 10 assists. On the magic side, Franz Wagner had his sixth 30-point game this season, and his big bro Mo added 20 off the bench. So the Knicks were up by 31 heading into the fourth quarter. And despite the lopsided score, the Magic still has something to play for and proceeded to outscore New York 31-15 in the final period to secure the wild card spot on point differential.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Well, let's talk about these New York Knickerbockers. Eight and two in their last 10 games. Fourth in the East shot. We'll start with you. I see you are repping New York to the fullest, head to toe, even with the spiked bat. For my Wu-Tang fans out there. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Are the Knicks showing that they are a legit contender in the East? You made the move this summer. They doing exactly what they left off doing. Making a statement. They got a lot of the, I guess you say, rust off. Early games. Now they starting to gel. I think defensively they're picking it up.
Starting point is 00:40:20 They're going to do exactly what I said they're going to do. They're going to make it to the Eastern Conference Finals. Then they're going to make it to the Eastern Conference Finals. Then they're gonna make it to the championship. The Knickerbockers, Eastern Conference Finals, will make it to the NBA Finals. In your opinion, you're saying it right here on this couch, bat in hand. When has it not happened?
Starting point is 00:40:41 When has it not happened? Our New York fans here at work are not disagreeing with you. I came over here to restore. Do you really believe that, though? I restored in Boston. I restored in Miami. You are a franchise-changing fan. They hired me for a reason. They hired me for a reason.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Mr. B, I see you over there on this side. Do you feel like the Knicks are a real contender in the East? For sure. Shout out Cat, too, man. He looks happy. He's been playing well. I mean, his energy, even last night, was great. So, I mean, I think, you know, the way Cat has been playing and his energy and everything,
Starting point is 00:41:18 the Knicks definitely do have a chance. It looks like the trade is definitely in their favor. Based on offensive rating, I think the Knicks have the top offense in the league, defense somewhere around 14th. That should improve once Mitchell Robinson comes back to help bolster that starting lineup. But, Gil, when you look at this Knicks squad, do you think that they can make some noise in the playoffs this year? Obviously got to the second round last year, took the Pacers to seven games before they got eliminated.
Starting point is 00:41:42 I mean, you know, they're playing very well with who they have. You know, right now, we need to see what they look like with their full roster. Cat at the five is an advantage and a disadvantage because, you know, he's not a shot blocker or can't keep anybody out of the paint. So giving your five man his job back and moving cat to the four will help the defense but cat at the five on offense is you know doing a great job too with the five out so um that's going to be another adjustment that they're going to have to make when um when he gets back and then you know the only concern that I have, really,
Starting point is 00:42:25 and that's going to take them over the top, is going to be Mikel. And the reason I say that is his mid-range, and it's weird, his mid-range field goal percentage is up. He's killing it. Three-point percentage is down, He's killing it. Three point percentage is down and his free throws is down, which means something is really affected. This is not, I changed my shot. That's not, I've played basketball long enough. I've trained long enough. I've seen guys long enough to know this is not, I changed my shot and this is the result
Starting point is 00:43:05 of it you know something probably happened and he had to tweak it from there because it affected his free throw to you talking about a damn near 86 84 guys shooting about 64 right that's a big difference oh I think once he locks in and once he gets comfortable with wherever his shoulder is, if that's the problem, wherever his feel is, once he gets back clicking and he's playing and shooting like last year, you're going to see a big jump, right? He's still, he's managing, you know, right? He's managing, he's out there being effective,
Starting point is 00:43:41 but once the old Mikael comes out, that's when the Knicks is going to take a turn and it's going to be crazy because he's going to be back to being a deadly, deadly threat. So we talked about the Celtics yesterday on the couch. I said they have the strongest starting five in the league, but I think beyond that, the Knicks with their seven, eight-man rotation, once they get Mitchell Robinson back, I like the squad, man. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:44:05 Just the way they're playing. They're all playing for each other. You think they're going to be the same at the four? Yeah, I mean, that's the position he's always played. So, I mean, he's been dominant at the four. So, you know, it's going to be like one of those Golden State situations. You start off big, and then probably the last four or five minutes, you know, you go to that, yeah, you go back to the small lineup
Starting point is 00:44:26 But it seems like as a crew like you got a bunch of guys there that can ball out at any moment Jalen Brunson still kind of just lurking ready to do his thing cooking when we need be but I Got to give New York love it looks It just looks different like we've seen what it looks like a Randall like it looked great I think just this field looks a little Like even if they're not winning it still looks better than it did last year for them as a new
Starting point is 00:44:58 Ball is moving a little faster. It's not sticking and holding and right, you know, I mean like if Before look like if Randall don't have it going on we're gonna pass it here You gonna do your thing it like right now feels more like Like a team it kind of feels like how it felt Towards the end of the season, you know, it's whipping around, you know, he's probing he's passing getting it back He's it feels more like they they under they all understand the assignment. Rashad, you're still confident, obviously, in your pick going to the final squad. What do you think Mitchell Robinson's going to bring to this team
Starting point is 00:45:32 when he comes back and is it going to take a little time for them to all gel and mesh together? We're not even going to think ahead. Okay, you were in the NBA Cup Elite Eight. When he gets back, he gets back. Other than that, we just keep chipping away. Keep chipping away. He'll be an added piece when he gets there.
Starting point is 00:45:52 For sure, for sure. Well, let's talk a little magic. After Paolo Banchero went down with a torn right oblique over a month ago, many thought the magic were cooked. Yeah, oblique. I don't know. That's what they say, Gil. Many thought the magic were cooked. Yeah, oblique. I don't know. That's what they say, Gil. Many thought the Magic were cooked,
Starting point is 00:46:08 but Franz Wagner's been playing at an all-NBA level in his absence, showing why he's worth every penny of the five-year, $224 million rookie max extension he signed this summer. So in his last 11 games, Wagner's averaging 27.7 assists, six rebounds. Magic are 12-2 in their last 14 games, currently third in the East. And Paolo, before he went down, was averaging 29-9-6.
Starting point is 00:46:31 But how impressive has Franz Wagner been in keeping the Magic afloat without Paolo Banchero? Don't care. Okay. I mean, they're sitting in the buck spot right now. I don't know. I think they have claimed that spot as their own currently. Right now.
Starting point is 00:46:52 I mean, after we win the NBA. Are we getting tickets? I got my Bucs tough crowd shirt on. I reconnected with my father. Me and you will be in Vegas with your daddy. 54 slams. He 54th slander. He was not feeling it. First crypto winning it with an award.
Starting point is 00:47:08 They don't even understand it. They do not know that. The story. I mean, both the Wagners have been playing well. We don't know which one is which at this point. You know that they're fearing Franz and Moe. Come on. Moe Wagner, Frank Wagner.
Starting point is 00:47:23 Okay. The Wagner boys. The Wagner boys. The Wagner. The Wagnerong Wagner. Okay. The Wagner boys. The Wagner boys. The Wagner boys. Representing for the fatherland. But just yesterday we talked about ESPN's top 25 players under 25. And they had
Starting point is 00:47:37 Paolo and Wagner being ranked third and fourth on that list, respectively. So how scary is the Magic's two-headed monster of Paolo Mancarankaro, and Franz Wagner? Obviously, we haven't seen Paolo in a while, but when they come back together, Paolo looked like he was ready to make that leap before his injury.
Starting point is 00:47:52 I gotta watch them more. Yeah, they are an exciting league past two. Let me just be honest with you, man. Is it exciting? Listen, we didn't watch them when they had Paolo, right? We damned you ain't watching that. Some of y'all did. I'm just saying we damned you. You're entertaining, Apollo right we damn sure in what some of you some of y'all do I'm just saying we damn
Starting point is 00:48:06 Yeah, I'm just gonna be honest with you like like Somebody scoring a lot of points over that cool cool. Cool sounds good. I gotta give credit, bro No, I mean it's ready, but we're not what no one's watching outside of Orlando. Everybody's why nobody's why I'm Nobody know they wasn't always doing a hell of a job. Nobody know they wasn't there. Kamal's doing a hell of a job. No, no, no. We get it. You know what? Because Deepak's just half-bitty
Starting point is 00:48:31 and nobody cares. No, no, no, no. When you're saying nobody, you're comparing that to your feed that you look at. Shit, yes. I see a lot of feed. I don't see it.
Starting point is 00:48:40 That's what I'm saying. So you look at Cleveland and Orlando, they've come a long way. Everyone's watching. Their progression has come a long way. Everybody's not watching. Yes, they are. He's not even watching. Yes, I am.
Starting point is 00:48:54 That's why he ain't watching shit. You ain't watching nothing but the damn Knicks. He watched them last night. Because unfortunately, if he was playing them, he ain't watching. Like, damn, what team is this? It's a spice-ass jersey. We had to watch the match. Hey, boys, you know him?
Starting point is 00:49:12 Man, get this sorry-ass team out of here. You know he was talking trash. He ain't watching Cleveland, Orlando. He ain't watching. We had to watch the magic come in the Staples Center. Well, I'm not the one to go for the underdog. No, you go for the underdog, but you ain't watching. No, because that's your team right there. I'm not to go for the underdog. No, you go for the underdog, but you ain't not always. No, because that's your team right there.
Starting point is 00:49:26 I'm not always here supporting the underdog. No, that's not. So I ain't been supporting Orlando. No, that's your team right there. They was the underdog. No, they was not. They was. New York Knicks was never the underdog.
Starting point is 00:49:34 They was. Stop it. Stop it. Now they not. Stop it. Cleveland was. Now they not. Orlando was.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Boston was the underdog. Now they not. Boston was the underdog. Now they not. Boston was the underdog. No. No. That was an easy win. That was an easy win. That was just easy. I was just easy. Everybody else is the underdog killer understand
Starting point is 00:50:00 Y'all have a different mentality. New York next was not that I'm a different mentality than I do. I appreciate what they doing Okay, I really feel like people are appreciating it too. They seeing it. It's just not... It's on the Mickey Mouse channel down in Orlando. It's not on ABC. It's not, you know what I'm saying? But they still getting it done. Yeah, yeah. I mean... Getting it done is getting it done. I'ma just be honest with you. I'ma just be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:50:18 And this is no... The last time I watched... You know, I got six TVs when them games going. The last time I watched a full Orlando game was when Bull Bull was on it and they was playing the Lakers. When they came here and they was playing the Lakers, that was the game I went to. And you watched it?
Starting point is 00:50:41 I watched it. I think Ben Cher was a rookie. So, I mean it's Like they can be ball and they can be playing well But because it's not like there's so many other games and so many there's so many other stars that are playing right now The fact that you don't have your star you're still playing well Congratulations, keep up the good work Third in the East right now.
Starting point is 00:51:05 All right. Hey, hey, hey. They got the buck spot. Hey, this is how you do it? Hey, when Orlando's playing and they win, good job, boys. Good job. Keep up the good work. We got our eye on y'all.
Starting point is 00:51:17 That's all we can do. But congratulations to Wagner. Took the Cavs a seven last year, Gil. And we didn't... Paolo said this summer that they could be... Those are both teams we don't care about. No, no, no. Hey, hey, hey.
Starting point is 00:51:34 What was the least... We don't care. What was the least watched playoff matchup? Unfortunate. Okay. Okay. NBA TV slot. That shit was on Tubi. Tubi. Tubi TV slot. That shit was on Tubi.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Tubi. Tubi, go beer. Game set was on Tubi. They got pushed out by the Caleb Clark college game once. Whoa, we got a Starro TV. Ding ding. We asked the chat. You ever been watching the game and then all of a sudden the shit just changed to a whole
Starting point is 00:52:04 another like, wait a minute, what is that? I was just watching the game and then all of a sudden, the shit just changed to a whole nother, like, wait a minute, what is that? I was just watching the goddamn game! We asked the chat, have you watched a Magic game in the last month? 66% said no. But for the 34% who have, it was probably the Magic-Lakers game, and that was an 0-4.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Oh, it's on real cable. You got to have real cable. It's real cable. They have real cable. I know. Against the New York Knickerbockers. Yeah, I mean, you know, you kind of feel bad sometimes, man, because it's those, the type of teams that got to, like, like think about what the Cavs did.
Starting point is 00:52:40 It wasn't covered. 14-0, 15-0, nobody cared. That's the, that's., nobody cared. That's the... Still cared. But that's the problem with the small market teams that even 15-0 don't get you... That was... Sacramento, you got a guy out there 60-something.
Starting point is 00:52:57 And that's unfortunate, but that's what happens. I had a lot of Cavs fans bother me. Y'all got to talk about the Cavs more. When we did talk about the Cavs, y'all didn't watch. So if y'all wanted the show to get canceled... No of Cavs fans bother me I'm gonna talk about the Cavs more when we did talk about the Cavs y'all didn't watch All right, so if y'all wanted to show to get can't no cast. No no Cass fans. He's watching for sure man, right? They watch you they that's all they got out there But yeah, it's all good, but like I said, we asked but a problem What was the injury
Starting point is 00:53:24 Oblique Here and it's a what? Oblique. Here. And it's a what? Torn right oblique, I believe. Torn. How? I'm not Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman. Never heard of it.
Starting point is 00:53:40 Like, how do you tear that? I mean, I had a sports hernia, so if it's something similar. Well, a sports hernia is how far, is that starting to grow though? Yeah, see, that makes sense, that starts to grow. NBA needs to, all you trainers need to go back to before y'all came into the league. And this is what has happened. And the reason you guys are getting these dumbass injuries, random injuries,
Starting point is 00:54:14 is you guys are going from zero to 100 real fast. Right? You're starting off preseason. You're not doing two-a-days. You're not doing this. Right? You're starting off preseason. You're not doing two-a-days. You're not doing this. Right? You're not really getting in condition. You're playing 10 minutes here,
Starting point is 00:54:33 8 minutes here, 12 minutes there. Those are your three games. And then game one of the regular season, you're playing 38 minutes real hard. You can't do that. Your body is not even in shape to do that. If we tell Hussein Bolt right now,
Starting point is 00:54:53 go run 100 in 10-1, he going to pull his hammy, growing's done, like he's going to pull something. The car's not ready for that type of motion. Your players aren't ready to be doing what they're doing. You're not building them up. You're going from 60% to 100% and you wonder why it keeps crashing out.
Starting point is 00:55:18 I can't get in my car and then hit the gas. There has to be a buildup, and that's what's been going on, that these guys are playing the 5, 10, 15 minutes. Like LeBron James played, what, 19 minutes all in preseason and then game one, 38.
Starting point is 00:55:38 That's not how it goes. You got to build up for that. If I think about training camp, right? Mm-hmm. Before training camp, how much did we get in? How much did we run and run line wheels? A lot. A lot. A lot.
Starting point is 00:55:54 First day in Milwaukee. No, before we got there. Yeah, yeah. UCLA runs, we out here. And then we get to training camp, first day of training camp, we done. We go to training camp for two weeks. First game of preseason, we done. We go to training camp for two weeks. First game of preseason, we done, we tired. Oh shit. Because us going against each other, we know what each other do. Now I got to go against you, right? You're going to be moving way
Starting point is 00:56:17 different than I've been moving for two. So now I got to get adjusted to these little quick movements. That's going to take a few days. i gotta go from you d rose john wall gotta you know what i mean so it's going to take me some adjustment with my muscles moving and then by the time the season start i've i've adjusted i went through the sore period the groin little sore i went through all of that in pre-season the cramps at night by the time the season came, my body's fully adjusted. Yep, and preseason. In October. Now today, you're taking the beginning of the season,
Starting point is 00:56:54 and that used to be our preseason. So our preseason back in the day is these guys' first month of basketball. Their bodies are not getting ready for the game and ready to do what it's going to do until January now. And preseason was long, though. We had like eight games. Eight games, yeah. It was like seven, eight games. I'm 15 minutes, 20 minutes, 22 minutes, 35 minutes.
Starting point is 00:57:14 By the time the last two games, I'm at 41 minutes. I'm playing 41 minutes of preseason. Even if I'm not shooting the ball 30 times, I'm up and down playing 40-something minutes. I mean, we played each other twice preseason. Hussein, both. You can't go from 10 minutes to 38 minutes.
Starting point is 00:57:35 So, Paolo, back on the court, not doing much sprinting or cutting or anything like that. He suffered that injury, I believe. Five games. Four to six weeks, he was supposed to get re-evaluated, so it'll probably be a couple more weeks until we see him back out there. But Gil, hopefully at some point when Paolo comes back,
Starting point is 00:57:48 you can watch him again. That would have been the first game of this. He had like four games preseason and then, it was just, like I talked to a player and he said,
Starting point is 00:57:57 I asked, I said, so why are y'all getting these Nick Gag injuries? And he said, to be honest, man, the difference between back then and now is
Starting point is 00:58:03 we're literally going from doing nothing to just... That's what I have to say. They don't do nothing. He said, to be honest, man, the difference between back then and now is we're literally going from doing nothing to just... That's what I have to say. They don't do nothing. He said, we're really going into doing nothing, and then we're going out there game one, and now I got to guard fucking Luka. I'm sure they don't even practice no more. Not really. Yeah. Like, I remember I used to practice against DJ Augustine every day.
Starting point is 00:58:20 We'll remind him every day. Every day. Like, every day. Like, go at it every day. Now... And if you didn't play 15, 20 minutes, what'd you do? Get on the what day. Every day. Like every day. Like go at it every day. Now... And if you didn't play 15, 20 minutes, what'd you do? Get on the what? Treadmill.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Treadmill. Mm. Yeah. Treadmill. We lift every day before practice. You had to, like, everything. No, you had to get your lifts in. Oh, y'all did? No. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:38 Oh, it's one thing. They mark your lifts. Yeah. You get fined if you... Oh, y'all did that? Oh, yeah. Yeah, every month you had to get a certain amount of lifts in. So...
Starting point is 00:58:44 I was for you. I didn't have no program like that. Let's stay in Adam Silver's Eastern Conference. Talk about Mr. B's favorite team. Bucks and Pistons met in Motor City Tuesday with the winner securing Group B and an automatic berth to the knockout round. So after stumbling early in the season,
Starting point is 00:59:00 the Bucks and their freak time duo finally found their footing, thanks in large part to a less than difficult recent schedule. So Yannis Mitty, thank you Gil, you know, you pay me, you pay me. Yannis Mitty has been on point this season and was in full effect as he led the Bucs with 28 points, 7 rebounds, 8 assists. The Greek freak knocked down his first 10 shots, finished 10 for 11 from the field and 8 for 12 from the line.
Starting point is 00:59:22 Yannis did not attempt a three in the game, which I know will make this couch very happy. They're getting a clique. Dame also did his thing, finishing with 27, four boards and five dimes, hitting five threes in the game. Torian Prince added 14 points in all four of his three-point attempts, and Gary Trent Jr. had 16 off the bench, going three for five from deep.
Starting point is 00:59:41 So the Bucs improved to 4-0 in the NBA Cup with a league-leading plus 50 point differential in those games. And they've now won nine of their last ten games after starting the season 2-8. Brandon, we were packing the Bucs up early in the season with that 2-8 start. Obviously, you did what you had to do. You sacrificed your time, went to Milwaukee, was courtside,
Starting point is 01:00:03 doing the running, man. Yeah. A couple Caucasian gentlemen but Brandon what have the Bucks shown you in these last 10 games um I mean I mean I think with the schedule and everything that's coming up I think it's a good time for us to really wrap up these games and actually you know get together and get our chemistry and you know be able to get the games that we need um because then when the challenges do come, we'll be ready. So we should take care of business right now with our schedule coming up
Starting point is 01:00:32 and things like that. It's going to be a good test. I think with Chris Middleton still down and what we have, we just got to use what we have. But I like where we're at right now. I like the momentum. Regardless of whoever we play, at the end of the day, it's an NBA team. So I don't care if you're 1-10, if you suck.
Starting point is 01:00:46 You got to play. As I mentioned, less than difficult schedule, but you have to win all those games. The only loss in that 10-game period coming to the Hornets by one point. But you play who's in front of you, but you have to win those games. Sure do. Yep. And we're winning the Cup this year. You have Darvin Ham.
Starting point is 01:01:01 The Cup is going back to Milwaukee. Darvin Ham on the coaching staff. Obviously, Darvin Ham was the coach of the Lakers when they won the NBA Cup last year. Mm-hmm. That's a fact. Man, that's crazy to go 9-1. That's crazy to go 9-1.
Starting point is 01:01:14 And you're celebrating, and your ass is still 10-9. 11-9, kid. 11-9. Fine. Y'all out there going 9-1 and celebrating. Who's celebrating? We ain't saying... We just, we're playing well right now.
Starting point is 01:01:29 Are you? Yeah, we're. Are you? Yeah, we won, we lost, what, we won last night out of 10, yeah. 4-0 in the NBA Cup. At the end of the day, we play against NBA teams. So the thing, the goal is to win the game. So we're winning games.
Starting point is 01:01:43 But what I'm saying is, but are you, like, are you happy? Like, forget the results because we know who the results is against. Right? Are you happy with how you're playing? Yo, he's not happy. He's picking up the pieces. You know when you drop shit out your pocket? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:01:59 You're like, oh, who's not happy? I mean, we started out two and eight. I'll take that one. Like, we're about to win the cup, and then we're about to win the next. We won the cup. Our next 17 what? You said our next 17? You should win.
Starting point is 01:02:11 The next 20 games, you should go 17-3. Okay. But what I'm saying. But if I'm looking at that and you should go that, if you don't go that, that's a problem. If you do go that, that's what we can see. What I'm saying is is do you see any difference in play the energy is different from now the energy is different to them the energy is different what is different mr b came down there the energy is different bro it's hostile now we win in games
Starting point is 01:02:37 it's hostile like this is the basketball is hostile like the energy was docile pre-aj green the energy is different hit three come on start playing shout out starberry I didn't it was no style moment Dose all before mr. B came you had to make a hostile you and Yannis connected after a game talking about the Nats all this Energy started pulling up to more games It's all energy bro. The energy is just different now So what's what's changed? Yeah, cuz you was there before when the energy is just different now. What's changed? Yeah, because you was there before when it was losing. The energy is different.
Starting point is 01:03:07 You was there. Right. When I was there, when I was there, there. When it was losing. Like, you was the cause of it. No, no, I was not. I wasn't there. When I started, when I went, they started winning.
Starting point is 01:03:16 They were losing before I got there. Got the Jack Daniels plug. You were there earlier in the year, bro. Yeah, I didn't go at all earlier in the year. Last year. Brandon, you came back with Jack Daniels for the whole couch. I did. Watching these Lakers games, I have drunk a sufficient amount of that Jack Daniels.
Starting point is 01:03:29 What I'm trying to say is, do you see them playing better? Like, have they changed anything in the game plan itself that makes you feel confident? Like, are they... What are they personally doing different today than they did when they were two and nine, two and eight? Are they doing anything different? The energy's different.
Starting point is 01:03:56 The will. They didn't have no energy in the beginning. They were dead. They weren't even trying to... Now they have way more energy. So you don't have energy when you're fighting Mike Tyson, but you have energy when you're fighting this person? Are they going to have energy when they play Boston?
Starting point is 01:04:11 He's asking you a basketball question. Are they going to have energy? He's asking you a basketball. And you're saying energy like holistic healing. I mean, energy is a big thing to basketball. If you don't have energy, you won't win. But what I'm saying is that it's not an attribute. So they wasn't approaching the game the way they are now.
Starting point is 01:04:27 You wasn't approaching the game at the beginning of the season? Obviously, they wasn't. I mean, you heard the comments from Giannis. They wasn't. So obviously, something changed. The energy, something changed. But it's definitely energy. It had nothing to do with basketball.
Starting point is 01:04:40 I mean, you have to have energy to play basketball. You just don't walk out there. You walk out there at 100% energy. Energy every time. So that means they're still running the same plays, right? I give it to you. You go one-on-one. That's what he's saying, Gil.
Starting point is 01:04:54 He said everything is the same except for the energy. Yeah, okay, yeah. That's what he's saying. So if they lose 10 games in a row, we're going to blame the energy. We're not going to blame. They still got the same plays. They haven't done them. Still missing the same free throws. No, because we won the last nine. So it ain't that. It's the energy. We're not going to blame, they still got the same players and they haven't done anything. Still missed the same free throws.
Starting point is 01:05:06 No, because we won the last nine out of ten. So it ain't that, it's your energy. So it ain't that, because we've been winning. We won the last nine out of ten. So it ain't what we've been doing. So you didn't have energy when you all was losing? So, obviously we didn't. That's why we were losing.
Starting point is 01:05:21 No, because the teams you played were just better than you. No, we started off the year, we wasn't even in sync. Like Giannis said, his whole quote was, if you don't want to be here, then don't be here. He was calling out whoever he was. So obviously it was something going on in Milwaukee or something going on with the group.
Starting point is 01:05:38 Obviously that has changed. That has to do with energy and your approach to the game. So that's all I can say. So they didn't have energy when they played against Boston. I guess they didn't. I guess not. First 10 games were tough, though, Gil. I guess they didn't.
Starting point is 01:05:54 Oh, okay. Say that again. The first 10 games was what? They were tough. Now what has the last 10 games been? Easy. Not like us. Was it tough?
Starting point is 01:06:04 Was it tough or they just didn't approach it with the right mindset? No. Not like us. Was it tough or they just didn't approach it with the right mindset? No, no, no. You can't say mindset, you gotta say energy. No, they didn't. Mindset, energy, same thing. Mindset and energy is the same thing. Mindset is focus, energy is the same thing.
Starting point is 01:06:19 Focus, all the same thing. Played the Celtics twice. Played the Cavs twice, played the Celtics twice. Played the Knicks. Played the Knicks, you beat the Jazz.. All in one. Played the Celtics twice. Played the Cavs twice. Played the Celtics twice. Right. Played the Knicks. Played the Knicks. You beat the Jazz. I will hope so.
Starting point is 01:06:30 In the sixth season. In the sixth season. But that's before we need to say the group. You beat the Raptors. Okay. I would hope so. Okay. You beat Pistons.
Starting point is 01:06:35 Oh, my God. NBA teams. NBA teams. NBA teams. So what I'm saying is. NBA teams. We're going to be trying to cup. We're going to be trying to cup.
Starting point is 01:06:42 You can't say you don't have energy when the opponent that well Hey, what better it had to be I'm just going up with y'all just in there We're saying it was something was going on in it all that has to do with when y'all win y'all got energy when you lose You don't obviously something is going right right now. I'm asking you I mean obviously yes in life when something don't go right So I'm just fucking going wrong when something's going right that means everything My said and said it's quite for wrong motherfucker. something's going right, that means you're changing your mindset and shit. Everything's clicking. Right from wrong, motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:07:07 What the fuck? Like, what the fuck are we talking about? Y'all don't know, when you do something wrong in school, you got to go to detention. When you do something, you got to change. Something is fucking changing in fucking Milwaukee. But the energy is the same, Brandon. No, it's not. You're putting the same energy in your losses.
Starting point is 01:07:17 No, it's not. Yes, you are. No, it's not. You didn't lose because you woke up. It's the mindset. You woke up and you didn't eat breakfast. It's right from wrong. Oh, I missed my breakfast this morning.
Starting point is 01:07:26 You prepared the same way. I just didn't have my energy. If I come here every day and I don't speak, that means my energy's off. No, it don't. If you don't want to speak, you know what time it is.
Starting point is 01:07:44 If I come here and don't speak, my energy's off. But why are you not speaking? No, that's not why. Because something is at home. Yeah, something at home is internal. It's something internal, yes. Oh, so I get all my energy. It's something internal.
Starting point is 01:07:59 Me and you arguing, I don't have no energy for you because you're going to whoop my ass. It's something internal. Chris will say something. I know I can keep that energy. What you talking about? That's know what it's something internal Chris to say some What's up you know me no no me oh you ain't got no energy Thank you very good The mindset it injury wasn't right. It's convenient you didn't have energy when you was over here. It's not convenient.
Starting point is 01:08:29 When you was playing Boston twice. Losing. Losing. You didn't have no energy then. Losing, man. Yanni said it. Yanni said it. Soon as the Wizards come, boom, 100% energy.
Starting point is 01:08:39 Yanni said it. When the Red Bulls come on. Hey, it's the NBA team. It's the NBA team. Hey, cool. Hey, cool. It's the NBA team. It's the NBA team. Hey, cool. Hey, cool. It's the NBA team. Y'all just loud talking.
Starting point is 01:08:49 Y'all wrong. You're loud talking. No, no, no, no, no. You're wrong. You're wrong. You're fucking wrong. You're fucking wrong. You got energy for the bad team.
Starting point is 01:08:56 You're fucking wrong. No, I've never wronged. You got energy for the bad team. Nigga, I got energy for whoever. Nigga, you, whoever. That's me. I'm talking about me. I'm always on one. You need more energy, man. Now, I'm saying whoever. That's me. I'm talking about me. I'm always on one.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Now, I'm saying they didn't have it. Their team wasn't together. Their team wasn't together. That's all it was. Still don't have Chris Middleton. So you have energy against the Nets. It's the NBA team. It's NBA team.
Starting point is 01:09:16 Hey, shit happens. Shit happens. Top 32. Shit happens. Where's the Lakers energy? Keep going. Everybody's a... Where's the Lakers energy?
Starting point is 01:09:24 In boxing, right? Where's the Lakers energy right now? In boxing, there's... Hold on. There's a... Where's the Lakers energy? Keep going. Everybody's a... Where's the Lakers energy? In boxing, right? Where's the Lakers energy right now? In boxing, there's a... Hold on. Where's the Lakers energy? There's a Mayweather, and then there's a dude at the bottom, right? Where's the Lakers energy? There's a dude who don't got no wins, right?
Starting point is 01:09:34 Nobody want to fight him. Where's the Lakers energy? Nobody want to fight him. No, what I'm saying is the guy at the bottom, they got no fights, right? Where's the Lakers energy? He hasn't won a fight. He's still a professional. Yep.
Starting point is 01:09:41 He's still a professional boxer. Where's the Lakers energy? You can't brag that you beat in dudes that got a record of 0-10, 0-9. You guys are talking. Why can't you beat these guys? Stop changing the narrative. Stop changing the narrative. That is the narrative. I'm cooking both of you niggas.
Starting point is 01:09:57 That is the narrative. No, the narrative. What are you cooking, Brad? The narrative. It's right or wrong. What the fuck is he cooking? It's right or wrong. What the fuck is he cooking? It's right or wrong. What the fuck is he cooking?
Starting point is 01:10:05 It's right or wrong. I'm cooking. I'm cooking you all day. I'm cooking you all day. Right or wrong. You can't cook that way, bro. If I come here every day, if I come here every fucking day, and I say what's up, and I don't, y'all going to think something's wrong, right?
Starting point is 01:10:15 No. My energy's off. No. Brandon's being emotional. No. If I come here- This is Brandon being emotional. If I come here, I speak to everybody every day.
Starting point is 01:10:23 If I come here and I don't speak, y'all going to think, well, what the fuck wrong with BJ? Nope. My energy's off. Something's wrong. Thankfully, Brandon, when you come here, your energy's off. What the fuck are y'all talking about? So basically, when it's like, hey, are we going to say what's wrong with Brandon? Is his energy is what's wrong with him?
Starting point is 01:10:38 Are we going to say his energy is what's wrong with him? No. No. Something's wrong with him. That's fucking up his energy. We're losing to all these teams. Is what's wrong with him? No, no Energy is not why I'm in here fucked up. It's just something's fucking with gray energy Grizzlies what my ass my That's not it. That's my brother in here. Huh? My brother ain't here. He still ain't here. Yes, he is. He ain't here right now. He ain't here right now. Like I said, it's inner.
Starting point is 01:11:08 It could be some inner. When we play the 7-0 Cavs, my energy's off. When we play the Cavs again, my energy's off. That's not. When we play the 1-7 Jazz, I got energy. I got energy. You're picking one thing. You're picking one thing. No, I can go.
Starting point is 01:11:24 We can go through the lineup. You're just picking one thing off. When I play, when I play, you're picking one thing. I got energy. You picking one thing. You picking one thing. No, I can go. We can go through the lineup. You just picking one thing on energy. When I play, when I play, winners and losers. Winners say, hey, I brought the energy tonight. Energy, mindset, focus. And when we lose, it's all the same.
Starting point is 01:11:33 Hey, man, I ain't bringing the energy tonight. Why didn't you bring the energy tonight? Y'all done said out of his mouth. We still bring the fucking energy every night, man. Y'all done said out of his mouth. If the energy fucking mattered, you would bring it every fucking night, and we would win every fucking night. What the fuck are we talking about? That don't mean you winning. That don't mean you if the energy fucking matter you would bring it every fucking night and we will win every fucking night Okay, what the fuck are we talking about? That don't mean you win it That
Starting point is 01:11:53 Bring it every fucking night. You don't say Fucking says don't mean cook now. It don't mean you went in terms of pot now nobody nobody agrees with you you nobody Basically, will you play the Knicks no energy right for 14 to talk about you play it? My sorry you think when you play the Boston Celtics after that you have no energy That's why you lose energy for when you play the one the only way the Raptors. That's two in ten Wait next you have energy. He does play the Pistons next five and eight neck next you have it reaching you really you played a reach You're reaching that's not this is five. It's right You reaching that's not what I'm talking about
Starting point is 01:12:37 You're you're gonna have a collective unit. They were not together says who? Y'all are setting my soul. He said, if you don't want to fucking be here, that's what it is. Well, that's what I'm fucking going with. We're watching the game. Well, that's what I'm going with. We're watching the game. That's what the fuck I'm going with. What the fuck you talking about?
Starting point is 01:12:52 When you play the Bulls, you're all together. That's what the fuck Giannis said. When you play Pacers, you're all together. That's what Giannis said. You're all together. When you play the Hornets, you're together. Giannis said, if you don't want to be here, get the fuck out. You're together.
Starting point is 01:13:01 When you're playing the Wizards, you're together. But you're not together when you play Cavs, Boston, you're playing the Wizards you're together, but you're not together whatever you play whatever okay boss You're not you're just choosing what you want to hear You were choosing the games you won you have Ever since I ever since John has called the motherfucker out whoever it was this shit change. I have Lost it on the preface your loss and horse by one but there was a janky call Friday Friday on the six you're playing Boston. Okay, what type of energy about the half we have are y'all together now?
Starting point is 01:13:49 Yes, because you go out there. It's your ass We got our ass beat, okay that has nothing to do with our energy. Yeah, the city's changed though It's not we're not two and eight We went the last nine out of ten and we win if we keep winning until December, I'm not tripping off a loss. We lost. Fuck it. Let's keep going, though. You said we're going to win the last 17 out of 13.
Starting point is 01:14:10 That has nothing to do with energy. The shit is different now. What's different? We are collective. Have you ever had a fucking team meeting with your team, and y'all was fucking two and eight, two and 11 or something or whatever? You had a team meeting when you was one in three two and five We gonna have a lot of energy we playing the magic without Paulo cook. Oh, I hope you do win that game. Oh my God. You got nobody to worry about. So you got nobody to worry about. We want to see when you play Boston.
Starting point is 01:14:47 We want to see what you look like when you play the Cavs. We want to see what you look like when you, shit. We got to wait till January. We got to wait till January. We got to wait till January. Well, wait. Well, wait. That's why I'm cooking.
Starting point is 01:14:57 When you play the Blazers, I hope y'all got energy. I don't care. Cook. They're not going to have energy. All I know is. It's a West Coast trip. You know they're not going to have energy on a West Coast trip. Cook.
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Starting point is 01:15:10 Cook. Cook. Cook. Cook. Cook. Cook. Cook. Cook. Every NBA team in the NBA is a real team. So we asked the chat, is Mr. B cooking Rashad and Gil?
Starting point is 01:15:27 51% said yes. 51% said yes. You took the majority. You took the majority. I know right from wrong. I know right from wrong. My energy. I know right from wrong.
Starting point is 01:15:35 I see. I see. Look at it. I know right from wrong. I see. Now it's 52%. I know right from wrong. Mindset, energy, focus. I know right from wrong. Mindset, energy, focus.
Starting point is 01:15:45 I know right from wrong. I'm happy they beat the Wizards. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. We got our stride back. We got our energy back. That means we should lose a game for the rest of the season now. We got all the energy in the world.
Starting point is 01:15:59 We should go undefeated. Literally. That's the logic. Now, it was the energy's fault. Now it's going to be the success of the energy. Energy, mindset. Because now there's no reason for you not to come up, come to the arena without energy. Energy, mindset.
Starting point is 01:16:15 Because this is the reason we went. Locked in. So now we have to win every game. Yep, all that. I mean, that's fine. Next, next, next. You start playing a good team like you were at the beginning, and you start losing again, I don't want to hear we having mental problems. I don't want to hear we not together. I didn't say anything.
Starting point is 01:16:31 I didn't think about mental. I just said they weren't together. Focus. Let's talk about something that we can all agree on. Giannis is out here performing at a very, very, very high level. Leading the league in scoring, average of career high, 33 points per game, sixth in rebound, 14th in assists, sixth in field goal percentage, shooting nearly 62% per game.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Uh, so... I don't mean the hard one, the last one. So who's playing better? In terms of what? Their success. What are you getting to, Gil? Who's playing, like, who's upped their production? Giannis has appeared to up his production a little bit.
Starting point is 01:17:12 Yes. So what was the average in the first 12 games? Was it 30, 33? Giannis' first 10 during that 2-8 stretch? Yeah. Well, it wasn't him. Oh, so it wasn't him. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:24 I have nothing to do with his brother like you said, so because he's still balling. Okay, cool. That's fine. Okay, you can have that. He was averaging 30-12 and 5.4. You can have that. I mean, you lost the argument, nigga. How about Dave?
Starting point is 01:17:36 You know, like, you still on it. That's why I know you lost the argument. What was Dave's average? You still on it. I think Dave might have missed it. You still let it go. Let it go. It's all right.
Starting point is 01:17:42 Let it go. It's all right. 26-7 and 5. It's all right. I was cooking you, nigga. 26-7 and 5. It's all right. So those two dudes are still doing what they do. That's go. It's alright. First thing they get is 26-7 in five rings. 26-7 in five. So those two dudes are still doing what they do. That's fine. Yup. And Giannis, whoever he was calling out wasn't doing their damn job.
Starting point is 01:17:52 Who's that? I'm sure they are now. So who's playing better? I don't know. Giannis is playing very well. I'm just saying who's playing better because he called somebody out? So who he called out, who's playing better? Giannis is playing very high level. Whoever. Better because he called somebody out. So I mean somebody who he called out who's playing Yannis playing very hot. Whoever he no no no no you remember there's somebody that wasn't cuz y'all Look he looked in what I'm saying is Yannis has been playing the same great
Starting point is 01:18:14 Dame has been playing the same great. So who did they call out? That's it. Fuck it Let me turn on my production. Who is it? Very bird toy in print No role players role player. Yep. All right next let's go Pat Connaughton beginning DMP Let me turn on my production. Who is it? You got Derry Bird, Torian Prince. Ah! Yep. Role players. Role players. All right, next. Let's go. Pat Connaughton beginning DMPs. They so mad. They so mad. They so mad.
Starting point is 01:18:31 Six or no, I don't even get to hear it. They gonna be on here quiet all year about they damn Lakers. Nobody. They so mad. So nobody's playing better. And this nigga over here, too, about his sorry ass nicks. I'm just saying, so no. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:42 They can't pinpoint exactly. All right, let's take a moment. Like, you know how, like, when we going to, like... Jesus. You know how, like, somebody's, like, averaging'm just saying, so no. Yeah. They can't pinpoint exactly. Let's take a moment. Like, you know how, like, when we going to... Jesus. You know how, like, somebody's, like, averaging 22 this month, and we playing bad, and then 22 went to, like, 30, and then, like, whoa, shit. Success. They can't pinpoint it.
Starting point is 01:18:56 Okay. Well, let's go. That's crazy. They just can't lose no more. That's all. Man, we can lose. That's all. We can lose whenever we want.
Starting point is 01:19:03 The first loss. We can lose. Man, please. Oh, I'm going to have an energy meltdown. Oh, more. That's all. Man, we can lose. We can lose whenever we want. The first loss. Man, please. Oh, I'm going to have an energy meltdown. Oh, please. I hope so. I'm going to have an energy meltdown. I hope so. I'm going to have an energy.
Starting point is 01:19:11 Please bring back the old Rashad. Please bring back the old Rashad. So Giannis isn't playing like a super goddamn star. And Dame has been playing like a super goddamn star from the beginning to the end. But Giannis is arguably playing the best of his career right now. Obviously, he broke the record last year with 30 points per game on 60% shooting. He's increased that. Like I said, 16 rebounds, 14 assists, leading the league in scoring.
Starting point is 01:19:35 He's at 2% per game. Yeah. Giannis currently fourth in the latest MVP ladder. We talked about it a little bit yesterday. Joker holding the top spot as he aims to become the third player in league history to average a triple-double. But this is a question for you guys. Would you rather have Giannis or Joker
Starting point is 01:19:49 as your franchise player right now? Damn. Giannis playing at this level right now. Joker averaging a triple-double. I don't like this. Joker has some issues on the defensive side. I don't like that. I don't like that.
Starting point is 01:19:59 Next question. Shit, man. I don't like that. I don't care if y'all like it or not. I don't like that. They both got the same amount it or not What's the answer Can we just like yeah? Mr. Larry Day Cemetery as you are known. Can we argue?
Starting point is 01:20:14 Can we argue about them? Now I gotta pick motherfucker greatness on which one I want as the greatness. The triple-double or the motherfucker who come and play 1,000 miles an hour. Who do you want? Damn if I do, damn if I don't. Well, if we had a draft, what you doing? One and two pick. You got the number one pick currently?
Starting point is 01:20:38 I got the number one pick. I don't got nobody on my team. You are starting from the first. This is the first pick. And from what we know right now This is the first pick what we've seen so far. This is in the first quarter. I got no other players Yeah, you have zero the hero on your roster Mmm, I gotta go big. Okay, what city am I in?
Starting point is 01:21:03 Am I am I am I do I got the what city am I in? Am I... Do I got the Lakers? Do I got like... All this matters. One sells tickets. You know what I mean? One sells tickets. You can market it.
Starting point is 01:21:14 You can put his face up on Billboard. You can sell his energy to the kids. He gonna shake the baby, kiss the baby, put the baby down. He gonna do all that. You got one who's stoic. You in Orlando or Cleveland, first two picks. That's where they got to go.
Starting point is 01:21:32 Your team is in, you want to say Cleveland for the team? I'm going with Giannis then. To Cleveland? If I'm thinking about just franchises, I'm going to go with Giannis because Giannis is Giannis is gonna he's gonna be a superstar for me And I'm saying based off right now. So you think that Yannis having better season than Joker right now?
Starting point is 01:21:52 I'm not going with Yannis cuz he don't show up with the energy every night Is not here we go is His energy is not fine. Moving the goalposts. And I'm going with the Joker. I'm going with consistency. That's fine. Going with the Joker. Y'all just been very consistent.
Starting point is 01:22:13 That midi is midi. I'm either coach or I'm either franchise. I don't like it. I can't pick. I don't like it. I don't like it. Going with Joker. Thank you, Rashad. I mean, that's the yeah, I
Starting point is 01:22:28 would Joker you You get everything in one person you get it up You get a pass or you get a shooter you get a score you get you get a think tank on the off right the side Of the ball right, but there are two sides of the boy. He's not gonna go play Joker not gonna go blame us The management when she's going wrong. He's just gonna figure blame us, the management, when shit's going wrong. He's just gonna figure it out and get it done. His energy is not going to be directed over. Like something like this.
Starting point is 01:22:51 But Joker also needs his brothers in the vicinity. They over there. They ain't tripping about being on the base. They ain't tripping about being on the base. When you're thinking about drafting and you're thinking about really putting teams together, there's guys you can pick one that helps you pick the rest of your team right you know when you when you think about yannis okay i got the energy i got the guy who's going to do that then you have to really worry about who you pick and
Starting point is 01:23:15 we can see that him and dame didn't work at the beginning we can see those two are really not playing together they're they're just being Right? We know if you get Jokic, you can put anybody with Jokic, he'll figure out how to make it work. Right? So, you know, if I don't have, if he don't have an option two, he knows how to dominate. If he has an option two, right? He knows how to make everybody else better. So the ideal, if you're going to pick and you're starting fresh from the number one pick, you're going to go Jokic. You have to. In the whole league.
Starting point is 01:23:49 The whole league with everybody available. You have to, though. He's a big. If you don't pick Jokic first, you probably won't be a smart general manager. Okay. So you'd pick Jokic over Giannis then in that situation? Jokic over Giannis. Jokic over, you know, Wimby. Jokic over Curry pick Jokic over Giannis then in that situation? Jokic over Giannis, Jokic over, you know, Wimby, Jokic over Curry, Jokic over...
Starting point is 01:24:09 Like, the only people you're going to be fighting over is probably Jokic and Luka, right? But because I know if I get Jokic and my next pick is Jalen Brown, boom, I can get him. If my next pick is LaMelo Ball, I can get him. I can fuck around and get a less guard that can just score and have Jokic.
Starting point is 01:24:30 I can sit there and pick who's available. I don't have to sit there and say, alright, I got Giannis first. Now I gotta think of a real point guard who can actually play with him for him to still be dominant. I can be stupid with Jokic.
Starting point is 01:24:45 I don't have to be a brilliant general manager. And do you feel like what Giannis brings, not only offensively, but on the defensive side of the ball, isn't as important to what Joker brings on the offensive side of the ball and being able to distribute score, do a little bit of everything, obviously, averaging that triple-double? No, that's definitely a big part. But I think what Gil's saying, like, it's just gonna be easier to put the team together.
Starting point is 01:25:05 Yeah. Like, I could put the team together easier with Jokic. Like, with Giannis, I would have to go find a Drew Holiday. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, a player or... Yeah, you gotta... You really gotta... Like, I really gotta go find, like, a Chris Middleton. Like, you gotta go find solid pieces. Like, with him...
Starting point is 01:25:20 Okay. You know, that's why I picked him in my draft. But it was... Yeah, you needed Kirk. But you just... Like, I'm talking, this is video game, goddamn. We talking about video game. We not talking about real life. All right, well, let's keep it moving. NBA Cup quarterfinals are now set,
Starting point is 01:25:35 so let's take a look at the Final Four from the East. So you got Bucks taking the top spot. Oh, yeah, we in there. They will face the Four Seated Magic on Tuesday with the winner going to Las Vegas. Hopefully it's the Bucks so we can get the ticket. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, no, we in there. We in there.
Starting point is 01:25:50 And Wednesday, you got the second-seeded Knicks taking on... Ooh, Trae Young might be in there. Trae Young coming back to the court. Uh-oh. Let's try. I want to see what type of energy they got this summer. Who? When they got big her when they he ain't playing kiddie
Starting point is 01:26:10 basketball right now he is straight king of the jungle he big cat meow me big cat up in the up in the Bronx huh that's what they call me calling big cat the They call him Big Cat. The Tiger King. Is that a cat or a rat? It's in New York. So our Milwaukee Bucks schedule our first 10 games with some hard games. And you know how you like to say, why do they always schedule the games in the beginning hard and why don't they let teams play? So you don't think a lot of that had to do with a lot of our struggles
Starting point is 01:26:44 in the beginning? The fact that they schedule so many tough games in the beginning. But the problem is, those teams shouldn't have been tough for y'all. But it's the beginning. And we don't have Chris Middleton. And also, it's like we... But the problem is, when you're talking about being dominant, when you're talking about who you guys have and where y'all projected,
Starting point is 01:27:04 that should have been a 12-0 start, 12-1 start, 12-2. Even with that schedule, though. Yeah, that schedule, those teams for y'all, like Philly, of course, we know who's not playing. Y'all supposed to walk through them. Your only hard team at that moment in time should have been Boston, right? You lose the boston coup then everybody else who y'all supposed to been should have been a walkthrough the problem is the real problem is there hasn't been an offense made for your team i agree with that that's the problem but we also haven't been
Starting point is 01:27:40 but we also haven't been healthy and there hasn't been an adjustment for your offense, for your players. That's why I asked you the question. I said, we know Giannis' style. We know Dame's style. What is Doc's game style? What is his signature? We know Phil has what? The triangle.
Starting point is 01:28:04 We know. So when he comes in, we know what he implements the triangle every team He's we know what Pat Riley style it. We know what Tim Thibodeau style is we know receive curse style is What Steve curse what is Doc's style? Did he have a style in Boston? No, did he have a style with the Clippers? No, okay. So why we keep answering this question then because that's the problem. That's the all problem he have a style with the Clippers? No. Okay, so why do we keep answering this question then? Because that's y'all's problem. You have a coach who don't have, what is he bringing to you? He doesn't have an identity. And your players look like they don't have an identity.
Starting point is 01:28:37 That's why I look like that. That's why this whole 9-1-1 shit look like trash to people who can see through it because it's like y'all playing against trash teams. It's an NBA team. It's an NBA team. You can lose any night. When Doc was at Boston and before KG and
Starting point is 01:28:53 Ray Allen got there, they was the laughing stock of the league. What are they doing? There was no defensive juggernauts. When KG got there, KG brung whatever he brung for Minnesota. He brung the intensity on the defensive end. He did all of this, right?
Starting point is 01:29:12 There was no pick and roll team. There was no pick and roll. That wasn't his offense. Whatever they were doing there, that wasn't the same thing he brung to the Clippers with Chris Paul. Chris Paul brung the offense he had from New Orleans New Orleans taking role We're gonna do that was like so we're ice and Chandler like this is what when he came to Philadelphia Give the ball and beat the same office and beat always had you just sat there and You didn't say wait a minute. I got two fucking seven footers
Starting point is 01:29:44 One's a point guard, one's a big? Hey, let's do some just pick and roll. What the fuck they going to do? They going to switch it? You going to switch the point guard onto Embiid? How you going to play this? There was no implement of you two stars playing together. Right?
Starting point is 01:29:59 Like, you didn't think, okay, I had Chris Paul and Blake Griffin. That was a headache. I have Embiid. I have Embiid and Simmons, and we're not going to play pick and roll at the elbow and see what the defense is going to do? Are you going to switch? Are you going to go under? What are you going to do here?
Starting point is 01:30:16 Let's try to figure. No. You have Dame and Giannis, and you're saying this is not more powerful than Blake Griffin and Chris Paul Giannis and you're saying you're saying this is not more powerful than Blake Griffin and Chris Paul and You're not trying to run the lead to death with just the one to pick and roll like you're just saying all right Yeah, honest when you get the ball you do what you've been doing Dame when you get the ball you do what you've been doing
Starting point is 01:30:41 And what it's like that's what I've been doing from the beginning to now Dame when you have the ball you do the pick and roll shoot the three which you yep yannis you sit over there when you get the ball you do the iso it's the same so what's the scouting report so what was the scouting report when you guys played doc when we played doc yeah yeah like what was the offense like like what was our scouting report thing when they was like all right we play in boston or Boston or whatever. They were trash. Paul Pierce going to do the Paul Pierce ducky end from the weak side. Like, just Paul random, just random.
Starting point is 01:31:10 They didn't have no pick and roll center. It was nothing. They didn't add nothing when Doc got there. They didn't add nothing. It was the same plays, but it was just Ray Allen coming off the backside. But as I said, remember, their identity was defense when KG came. What was KG's identity?
Starting point is 01:31:31 Right? Defense. So he brung the presence in. Like, remember, I always said that with Pat Riley. You didn't create Showtime.
Starting point is 01:31:42 Showtime was created. You did Showtime, right? That's magic in what's in there. And when you left to win to the Knicks, that didn't create Showtime Showtime was created you did Showtime right that's magic and wasn't and when you left to win to the Knicks that didn't look the same Knicks was a grinded out team you went there and you okay they're grinded out that's that's who they are that team right doing the grinding didn't have nothing to do with the Showtime Lakers so obviously Showtime wasn't a part of you. It wasn't a system It wasn't yours. It wasn't your system. Right? So and that's that's all I'm saying is like Some people don't have like we know what tippa does gonna do right deep defense. It's gay
Starting point is 01:32:17 So we know this offense he's running in him. Okay. He's saying okay, I mean like he's smart enough to realize Hey, hey, you go out there figure out what you're gonna do I'm gonna try to make it work for y'all y'all tell me to do like Eddie Jordan Princeton He wasn't defense He'll tell you hey, let's don't look over here for the defensive strategy We know pop Reds rule right give it the Duncan Defense we're gonna lock everybody to the side so you knew what he brung.
Starting point is 01:32:47 That's all I'm saying. Doc needs to have his identity into this team. And trust me, I will notice when I see it because it's going to be Dame and Giannis being dominant together. So you're saying we can't just win off just like... You can't win it. You're not going to...
Starting point is 01:33:05 No, you're not going to beat the teams. Giannis playing by himself, and when he don't have it... So, Gil, are you saying that the Bucs are going to win the NBA Cup then? Because they have been playing like that during the NBA Cup stretch 4-0. Let me see the team. Number one seed. Number one seed in the entire NBA Cup based on point differential and ratio. Now, what's the other side?
Starting point is 01:33:25 We will talk about the West in a second. Okay, so. We're merely talking about the East first. They should be in the championship, right? They should. Right? But, I mean, but obviously we know the Knicks. Right?
Starting point is 01:33:41 So it's who plays smarter basketball. But off the just paper trail, Bucs should be in the championship easy. Sean, who do you think is coming out of the East? Knicks. Knicks? Knicks for Clips. But Knicks plays like a team. Bucs plays like just two stars playing basketball. So let's shift over to the West now, Gil.
Starting point is 01:34:05 We've talked extensively about Doc Rivers and his shortcomings. Warriors put up to Denver in the midst of a four-game losing streak, but already had their spot in the NBA Cup quarterfinals secured. And with Draymond Green out with a left-calf tightness, Joker did what Joker does. So Jokic finished with 38 points, 10 rebounds, 6 boards, and 5 steals, going 14 for 24 from the field, 3 for 4 from deep. MPJ had 22 points and 7 boards.
Starting point is 01:34:29 And in the second game back from injury, Aaron Gordon had 15, 9 rebounds and 5 assists. Warriors had 6 players scoring double figures, led by Steph Curry, who finished with 24 points, 7 rebounds and 11 assists, but were 8 for 23 from the field, 4 for 15 from deep. Jonathan Kaminga made his fifth start of the season, had 19 points and five rebounds. So Warriors had an 11-point lead in the fourth quarter and were up six with a little over two minutes to go, but proceeded to trick it off as the Nuggets went on a 10-0 run
Starting point is 01:34:53 to close out the game and to get the win, thanks in part to plays like this from Jokic. So there was a questionable moment late in the game after Christian Brown dove for a loose ball, appeared to call a timeout. Real quick, right there. Oop, even though the Nuggets didn't have any, play was ruled a jump ball.
Starting point is 01:35:12 Naturally, Steve Curry was not happy. So he dove for the ball. Can we rewind that? Just that last part, Powell, just the very last play, using our... And shout-out Starry. My favorite. He called a timeout. All right, now go, go, go, slow, yeah. And shout out Starry. My favorite. He called a timeout.
Starting point is 01:35:26 All right. Now go, go, go. Okay, go. So Nuggets had no timeouts left. Christian Brown. Okay, so we got the high school travel. Sneaky athletic. He said high school travel.
Starting point is 01:35:35 The high school travel. And then, let me see. He appears to. Referee. Timeout right there. Yeah, see referee can't see that yet. Ah. Now go.
Starting point is 01:35:45 It's not really. That ain't a foul? Referee. Time out right there. Yeah, see, referee can't see that yet. Now go. It's not really. That ain't a foul? Jump ball. I mean, it was kind of like. Yeah, it was. Wait, this part, that's not a foul first? Like, how do I know he's not trying to foul him? Go back.
Starting point is 01:35:59 Boom, that's not a. Oh. That's not a, oh. I thought he was trying to foul him. I thought he was trying to get a jump ball, Gil. Oh, okay. No, I'm just kidding. No, no, I mean...
Starting point is 01:36:08 I have no allegiance to the word. So... Well, they could have overruled that with the... They could have overruled that with the replay. I don't... See, I don't think he... That was reviewable. See?
Starting point is 01:36:19 What you mean? What, the timeouts? Yeah. Whether you call a timeout. I'm not sure. Like, that's the thing. It's so quick. It's so quick that...
Starting point is 01:36:26 No, but you have to call whether he called a timeout or not. But whether it's quick. We can see it. I don't think they can review that to see if he did that, basically, whatever the call on the floor is. I don't think that's one of the reviewable elements. Yeah, see, that don't look like... It's like he has the ball, he does one of these.
Starting point is 01:36:42 Like, as a ref, you're not... He's not given the... So, play was ruled a jump ball. Naturally, he does one of these. Like, as a ref, you're not. He didn't, he's not given the. So play was ruled a jump ball. Naturally, Steve Kerr was pissed. The Nuggets have won eight straight games against the Warriors, 11 of their last 12 meetings for all the Warriors who want to clown the Lakers for their shortcomings against Joker and company. After the game, Kerr offered his thoughts on the missed tech
Starting point is 01:37:00 and the Warriors' struggles this season. Brown called a timeout. He dove on the floor, he rolled over. Everybody saw it except for the three guys we hired to do the games, and that makes me angry. You know, this is a – like that's a technical foul. They don't have a timeout left. It's a technical foul.
Starting point is 01:37:16 We shoot a free throw. We get the ball. We got a chance to win the game. They all told me they didn't see it. He dives on the floor and rolls over, and he goes. It's timeout. It's up to the referees to see somebody's, that's why we have three of them. Somebody's got to see it. So that, yeah, that made me mad. With that said, that's not why we lost. We lost because we didn't close again.
Starting point is 01:37:38 You know, it's like the fifth game in a row where we've, you know, maybe not all five, but most of these games in this stretch, we're not closing. We're not executing. We're not making good decisions. And it's got to improve. Steve Kerr peeved with the ref. See, that's what I said. I see it, and I'm thinking you're fouling. I would have called the foul.
Starting point is 01:38:02 So you didn't think the refs could see the – No, what I'm saying is you're down you're down four he goes for the loose ball and the first thing you touch is the arm so i'm i'm assuming as a ref that you're trying to call you're trying to foul so i would have got it wrong too because i would have blew the foul right i'm i'm helping you stop the clock you know you know how like you know you just assume like okay you're down four you know there's 12 seconds left and you run over real fast i'm assuming you're you know hey we're gonna foul them you don't have to hit them hard enough but i'm helping you you know i'm not gonna let you be like you know do all that and then there's time
Starting point is 01:38:41 running off the clock so i would have called i would have called the foul and then there's time running off the clock, so I would've called the foul, and then it would've been too free throw, so you'd have been cussing me the fuck out, too. Mm-hmm. Shit, I would've got the bitch wrong, too. Shit, Lisey gave you a jump ball. Shry, do you agree or disagree with Gil's stance on that play? Like, what you would've called?
Starting point is 01:38:59 Travel. If I could see it, what am I calling? What, like, just as fast as you seen it? Remember that's in real time. So what do you call it? Time out jump ball trap travel travel Travel happened first. Yeah before the timeout. He said the high school travel, right? So either we like if I'm Steve we get the ball at the end of the day We get the ball into the day Worst case scenario for them. We get a free throw cuz end of the day. We get the ball. Mm-hmm. End of the day.
Starting point is 01:39:26 Worst case scenario for them, we get a free throw because you called the timeout. So you have traveled, then timeout. Oh, you had the timeout? Yeah. Timeout was the second thing he did. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:35 He traveled. Then the foul. Then the foul was last. Yeah, the foul. Yeah, the foul came last. What do you have? I have the travel like him. You have a travel too?
Starting point is 01:39:41 Yeah, I'm calling the travel so we don't have to deal with that. Yeah, we don't deal with none of that. Just take the ball out, it's y'all ball, go the other way. But see what the score is. You have a travel too? Yeah. I'm calling the travel so we don't have to deal with that. Yeah, we don't deal with none of that. Just take the ball out, it's y'all ball, go the other way. But see what the score is. You're still down four. So travel is not helpful. What is the rule?
Starting point is 01:39:54 What's the rule on I know in high school you can't move. Right? You're not allowed to move. But I know in the NBA it's when you have possession, it's different language. Because you're moving. He's literally i know in the nba it's when you have possession and just it's different language because you're moving like he's he's literally like so does he have think about if you're juggling the ball while moving so you can't it's a travel not in our
Starting point is 01:40:17 league it has to be you can't juggle the ball i can't juggle it all the way down without dribbling controlled if it's not controlled you can't here so like all the way down the court. Yeah, you can't juggle it all the way down without dribbling. Controlled, if it's not controlled. You can't. Ain't no way. When do we say he actually has possession? I mean, this is a hustle, right? Right? Right there. But see, no, he don't have his hand on it. He don't have it now. He's dropping
Starting point is 01:40:37 the ball now because he's trying to brace himself for the fall. But that's what I'm saying. So you don't have him as controlled? Keep going? No, not yet? Now. That's controlled. Now. Now he's cuffed it. That's a travel right there one to slide to the left slide to the right let's see it definitely Chris crawl So he never connected the T in here so so you don't have a timeout. Oh, but he's saying timeout right here. He's saying timeout.
Starting point is 01:41:10 Oh, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. But either way, Warriors had a 10-point lead in the fourth quarter, tricked it off. It was enjoyable to watch, especially considering the Lakers' struggles as of late. So we do have the rule here. So once that player dies for the loose ball on the floor
Starting point is 01:41:25 and gains possession, there are two ways in which they're guilty of a traveling violation. The first is if the player takes the ball and attempts to stand up, or the second, the player rolls over from their back to the front
Starting point is 01:41:34 or front to back. So I think by your guys' definition, probably a travel, right? So by that definition, was that a travel? That should have been a travel call. But either way, Warriors tricked it off.
Starting point is 01:41:44 Tough shit. You lost five in a row. Cry about it. So after starting the season 12-3 and briefly holding the top spot in the West, Warriors have now lost five straight games. Sheesh. Spurs, Nets, Thunder, Suns, and Nuggets in that five-game streak. So recently they've rolled out 10-13 man rotations,
Starting point is 01:41:59 but after their loss with the Suns Saturday, Steph said they're probably going to have to tighten that up moving forward. Steph's also been dealing with bilateral knee tend tendonitis for the first time in his career. While he said he's not worried about it, he also noted it has the potential to be a nagging type of thing if you don't take care of it. Also said the deeper into your career, the more things pop up. So, so far this season, Steph averaging 23.7 assists, six rebounds on 46-42, 95 shooting splits, but he's only playing 30 minutes per game, which would be the third lowest in his career.
Starting point is 01:42:28 We looked at this Warriors squad, talked about losing Klay, the moves they made. I think De'Anthony Melton out for the rest of the season now dealing with injury. But are the Warriors doing enough to surround Steph with a winning squad? I mean, was it a winning squad when they were number one? They were 12-3. If there was a winning squad then, they it a winning squad when they were number one?
Starting point is 01:42:46 They were 12-3. If there was a winning squad then, they're a winning squad now. They just took some Ls. Some thought it was a few games. Yeah, but maybe they just got off to a hot start. Some thought it was a few games. I don't mean you're a winning squad. You just got off to a hot start. You talking about that same 9-1 start?
Starting point is 01:42:59 Who? You said 9-1 start? My bad. We didn't even start off 9-1. We started off 2-8. I'm just talking about streaks. I mean, yeah start off 9-1. We started off 2-8. I'm just talking about streaks. I mean, you know.
Starting point is 01:43:07 I mean, yeah. Good streak, bad streak don't make you a good team. I mean, yeah. Our first 10. Our first 10. Good streak, bad streak don't make you a good team. Don't make you a good team. You got to have that with me.
Starting point is 01:43:15 Yeah. It's all good. No, he didn't. Brandon, I'm on your side. Warriors are not a good team. Like, you think the Warriors are a good team in the West? Seriously, you think they're a top five team in the West? They was just playing.
Starting point is 01:43:23 They were playing. They were playing. They were playing. They were playing. They were side. They're not... Warriors are not a good team. Like, you think the Warriors are a good team in the West? Seriously, you think they're a top-five team in the West? They was just playing like it, wasn't they? Five games ago, the Warriors looked like the best team in the West. Cleveland was playing like the best team, too. I mean, that was... gaslighting. It wasn't.
Starting point is 01:43:40 Shit, yes, it's gaslighting like a mother... Are they not still the best team in the East? No, no, they're not. Why are they not? No, they're not. I don't care where they're ranked. They're still the best team in the East? No, no. They're not. Why are they not? No, they're not. I don't care where they're ranked. They're not the best team. They're not better than Boston.
Starting point is 01:43:49 I mean, they beat, I mean. They are 19-3 right now, man. 19-3? Go to state. Gaslight it. Beat some good teams. Go to state. Beat some good teams.
Starting point is 01:43:56 No, no, no. They beat the Boston. Okay, are they top five, though? They beat Thunder. They beat Mavs. They beat Grizzlies. They beat Boston without Jalen Brown. They beat Boston. Without Jalen Brown, their best player. They beat Boston without Jalen Brown. They beat Boston.
Starting point is 01:44:06 Without Jalen Brown, their best player. They beat Boston. Without their best player, Jalen Brown. But they still got four other superstars. They still got four other superstars. I mean, four other superstars. They didn't have poor thingies at that point either. Who else is a superstar over there besides Jason Tatum?
Starting point is 01:44:21 A superstar. You can match them up too. Okay, so who's the second? Who's the third best player on the team? On the court? For? When the Boston plays Golden State. With everybody out there?
Starting point is 01:44:37 When they played against each other. Who's the third best? Who's the third? Jason Tatum? No, no, no. Oh, wow. He's going to be one or two. No, no, no. Oh, wow. He's going to be one or two with Steph.
Starting point is 01:44:46 No, no, no. Steph is out there and then Jalen Brown is in. Jalen Brown, you said Jalen Brown wasn't there. No, no, I'm saying when he... No, no. Oh, he's not saying... That matchup, Jalen Brown did not play that game. Right.
Starting point is 01:44:57 And the Warriors won. So Steph? Steph and Tatum, whoever's one and two. Who's going to be three? Drew Holiday? Drew Holiday. Probably. So Drew Holiday. So who's the fourth? No Jalen Brown, no Porzingis. Who's going to yeah, who's gonna be three drew holiday drew holiday Probably so drew holiday. So so who's the no, Jason Brown? No poor Zingas just who's gonna be the fourth white Wiggins
Starting point is 01:45:12 So Wiggins is better than white What does white every day? That is a discussion at this point. We're gonna play very well Canadian so So Golden State beat them. Golden State just went out there best player. They're just as good. You know, like they said, like you said, if we're gonna give bucks to credit, we're gonna give words of credit. You know, they played good early.
Starting point is 01:45:37 They played very well early. Okay. They lost five in a row. Okay. They struggling now. So I think reality is. Some of their losses, the loss of the Spurs. You know, it's so funny. Like, they're. I just.
Starting point is 01:45:59 Steph hit it over the head. You, we, we don't have the full. We don't have a full bench no they don't that's really good to be playing in minutes that they're playing so you sitting here playing 13 guys that's the problem yeah i mean that's the problem right there i think 11 guys played that first half against the suns when he made those comments 13 played over like i'm sure they wasn't doing that in the beginning it's not the problem if you're trying to save guys throughout the season. If you don't want to burn out the only guys you got.
Starting point is 01:46:29 We ain't got time. If you don't want to do what the Lakers are doing. We ain't got time. We in the West. Burn out your guys early. We in the West. We ain't got time. We can't fall that low.
Starting point is 01:46:39 Yeah, yeah. Like the East, we could do that. But the West, no, you can't do that. Go in the East, you can go two and eight. Yeah, for sure. I mean, yeah, the Buc we could do that. But the West, no, you can't do that. So in the East, you can go 2-8. Yeah, for sure. I mean, yeah, the Bucs are living proof. I mean, Golden State has been a team that plays a lot of players at the beginning of the season to rest.
Starting point is 01:46:55 So, you know, you're going to have ups and downs, I guess. But can you afford those ups and downs with this squad that you have like that? Because you only have one player that's averaging, what, 20? Is Steph the only player averaging 20 on this team? I believe so. Let me double check for you. Like in the West, though. Come on.
Starting point is 01:47:12 Yeah. Wiggins is second with 17. Kaminga's getting done. Rather dirty as they try to strong arm him. I think Wiggins is average 20. Hey, no agent stepped in. Nobody's helping that boy. I told you, man.
Starting point is 01:47:26 He's just out there swinging. His eyes closed. Ain't no vet coming in to help him. Ain't nobody say amen. Hey, man, listen. They be thinking I'm hating when I be trying to give y'all the game. I be trying to give them the game on the side.
Starting point is 01:47:38 Like, as a business, like, you're a basketball player, and then there's a business. And some of y'all get caught up not knowing the business, and the business catch your ass up and you're on the back end of it. Right? I'm telling you right now. You want your real value?
Starting point is 01:47:54 You better sign today so you can play today. You sign the contract, you'll ask the starter. Then you can do everything that you want to do to move forward. You don't sign, you're a six man, you're going to sign six man- Oh, you're talking about us. You're going to sign six man money- Oh, you're talking about us. Then you're going to be a starter next year.
Starting point is 01:48:16 Oh. Right? I'm sorry, that's it. That's the difference between being an independent and a major. You got a decision to make. You don't sign that contract with this type of ink. That's the difference between being an independent and a major. You got a decision to make. You want to sign that contract with this type of ink? So he should have signed it.
Starting point is 01:48:33 You have to look at what's presented to you, and you got to look at the fashion that is being presented. It's being presented as... You don't got no leverage. They're presenting it like you don't got leverage to even give nothing back to us. You ain't Master P. You ain't coming in with your own shit. So take this three for a win. Take whatever we give you. Like he said,
Starting point is 01:48:49 the value is what I give you is your value. I have a, I'm giving you, I think this is what you're worth moving forward to give us some flexibility. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not robbing you.
Starting point is 01:49:06 I'm giving you enough. And then you can go on, and then I'll see you in your next contract. You got no left. But if I do one of these, if I take this back. Put it back on the shelf. All right. You don't want it?
Starting point is 01:49:20 OK. You don't want this? OK. I'm going to show you. That's the I'm going to show you. I'm going to show you. All right. That's the I'm going to show you. I'm going to show you who in charge. That happens to play like he's. Oh, it happened to me for sure.
Starting point is 01:49:34 I'm going to show you. Man said, look, he can either pay you or not pay you. Said it to my face. Said, yeah, he, I ain't going to say his name. He can either pay you or not pay you. Said it to my face. Said, yeah, he, I ain't gonna say his name, he can either pay you or not pay you. What you gonna do? That's like, deal with the devil.
Starting point is 01:49:54 Like, hey, you gonna sign it or not? Reports coming in one of that 224, Ricky Max, Warriors said, we can give you something in the ballpark of $140 to $155 million. Okay. That was the report. For four years? For four years. Give me $155 for four years and we can give you something in the ballpark of 140 to 155 million. Okay That was the report for years for four years. Give me 155 for four years and we can do Honestly, I told y'all y'all was hyping him. He was hyping him to believe that that was his shit
Starting point is 01:50:18 We thought nah We said if yeah, that was to go down and clay was to go down and Klay was to go down, he left for him. And I'm like, he ain't at that level where he could have took that ship and been like, it's mine now. They didn't believe he had that level. Even without Steph, though, in those games early on in the season, he was fighting for it. Yes, and that's why I said, four-year, 155.
Starting point is 01:50:41 Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Take it. Or get out of there. For the next four years, for the next four years, you can ball out, and then I can make it back to you then. Right now, I'm not in the luxury to pay you $220,000 because I got to think about where I'm moving at.
Starting point is 01:50:58 But I know I want you as a front. So you can take this and feel undervalued. Yeah. And you go and play. That i take if i take this contract back you are now playing under my rules and what i'm gonna do is you were i wanted to give you 155 now you're coming off the bench now you're 13 points a game off the bench dome has another number two and that bitch might say one four years 100 she is 70 and then when I give you four years 100 guess what I'm gonna do give you back the keys Now you not now drive and show that you in now now drive so you wasn't worth that go be the star average that you
Starting point is 01:51:41 Can take 20 motherfucking shots now And as you stuck in this deal now. Restricted free aid deal. I got the same. What did I say? I said run. Get out of there. Because if you sign the deal for the franchise,
Starting point is 01:51:56 you're left with something you can't carry. If you sign like Gil said, you get that four, you prove that you're worth something. You can go somewhere else and have your own kingdom at that you got leverage now you got four years of leverage but now you don't because he had leverage and his energy is better four years four years you're the hot four four years 155 to get you for that you're the hottest man moving yeah that means energy if you're not happy you'll be like yo i want out every one 155 for a 22-year-old? Everybody wants you.
Starting point is 01:52:25 Yeah, for sure, for sure, for sure. Everybody, everybody jumps for you. Well, somebody's telling him that ain't enough. Somebody's telling him you're better than that. Somebody's telling him. I think it was five years 155. Between 140 and 155. Somebody's telling him.
Starting point is 01:52:38 That person that was telling him that don't know what to tell him now. No, that person should get away from him. He ain't saying nothing now. That person ain't even hitting him no more. Listen'm a pop listen. I remember I seen that with I seen it buddy He'll right I remember and I seen him like buddy. He'll turns down or it's gonna turn down this deal. I Per I went into the DM like we hold on man. I Know you're not happy with the deal but understand the money that you're you're getting your age right where you see yourself valued there's a different value for you you're
Starting point is 01:53:11 four years older than everybody else so you're not valued the same you need to look at everybody who got paid your age with your stats so you are in the CJ McCullough era right so so you're about four or five, $8 million off. So you're right in the right. Do not lose $90 million trying to get $10 million. Like you got to think of it like that. You're, you're, you guys are $10 million off. Don't let them take away 90 million all because your ass want ten more Because that's what that's all it is. You're losing ten ninety million for ten because all that's gonna happen is Over that ten million. They're gonna bench your ass
Starting point is 01:53:56 Ten million dollars they're gonna bench you you don't come off the bench And then what you're gonna be worth when it's time to negotiate? What happened? He's like, yeah, you're right. I said, man, this is supposed to be the happiest time of your life. Don't be one of these bitter dudes that get fucked and then they can't even function no more because they thinking about the money that they didn't have. He ended up signing it. What happened the next season? Benched him.
Starting point is 01:54:18 They ended up benching him. So if he didn't sign it and he got benched, what that contract would have been looking like? Was he thankful for your advice, Gil? Of course he was. You got me thinking, though, about how James Harden fucked up the whole shit for $4 million.
Starting point is 01:54:33 No, James didn't. They did. The Thunder did. He said no for $4 million, right? No, okay, so it was $4 million. So it was $4 million off. So he was like, this is what I'm being offered. Jump up just four more million. And it was like, nah, we're good. Let's get it on the back end, fellas.
Starting point is 01:54:52 No, Houston came in and gave him the A's. No, Houston came in and gave him the bag back. I get it. I get it. But remember, what the recollection is, is that, man, we could have had something special for $4 million. And what you just said about... You lost something got y'all lost something special over four million dollars This is what I'm saying But as far as what you just said as far as the ten million buddy like don't lose 90 million because of ten million. Mm-hmm. Like that's what I thought about right away
Starting point is 01:55:19 But I thought about you lost championships because of four million lost a team Okay, see no no no also James had a lot of leverage though You lost championships because of four minutes. You lost the team's but but but also the OKC Oh, no, no also James had a lot of leverage though But you gotta tell my James like but see this is way more than buddy James has max deal over here Right. That's his backing. So if so, all you guys have to do is just put up four million dollars and you're like nah We're good so they Like, nah, we're good. So they, OKC, over $4 million, you didn't become Golden State.
Starting point is 01:55:53 Those two championships, that could have been yours. If you look at how it played out, you were Golden State. You had in-house stars. All it cost you, you didn't-house stars. All it cost you, you didn't want to pay $4 million and you missed out on being a dynasty. Because you overvalued
Starting point is 01:56:13 somebody else. Golden State just made that decision not to pay Clay, not to pay Kaminga. They're making the same mistake. No, no, no. They're already the same mistake. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, but they're already a dynasty, though. They already became.
Starting point is 01:56:27 Like, their history's already legit. It's already solidified. Yeah, to me, it seems like that wasn't, like, a plan. They fell into that. Which one? The Kaminga situation's different, though, because they have the leverage there. They fell into the dynasty.
Starting point is 01:56:39 No, the dynasty is... Well, the dynasty happened. Because if James stays, that's a real dynasty. That's the real first dynasty. And let's say it doesn't have anything to do with money. Let's say James makes the decision for them. Like, you know what? For a million,
Starting point is 01:56:56 we can get this shit done and I can get this shit back. But can he? Yes, on my next deal. On my next deal, I could get this shit back. It's $4 million. It's $4 million. Listen, they would have ran.
Starting point is 01:57:09 They would have ran it. They would have ran it. They would have ran it, and it's $4 million. I don't doubt that at all. $4 million. I don't doubt that at all. He would have made that shit back in the community. He would have made that shit back in OKC on Thursday.
Starting point is 01:57:19 No, but see, you're looking at it different. I'm not saying it's his fault. It cost you $4 million. Your team could have been evaluated for billions if you paid the $4 million. I know, I know. You're saying from the organization. From the organization. I'm saying from the decision.
Starting point is 01:57:33 But from an individual heart and standpoint, though, do you think he's still able to go get that bag down the road? Yes, 100%. For sure. Because he was the reason for getting to where they went. He was the main reason, which is why they offer him right after that. Like, we got to figure out what's up with James because he's going to be on his way out after what he just did. First of all, he's doing this every year, six-man.
Starting point is 01:57:54 For sure. He's doing this, and then they go into the finals. That's a different legacy. No, he wouldn't have carried that legacy. He wouldn't have went on to be six-man. No, no, no. I'm saying why he's there, though. Why he's there, but while my time is up
Starting point is 01:58:06 i'm gone though yeah but see that's the problem your leg your legacy is is changed though you're a champion because but you're a champion but you're yeah but you're not an mvp you're not you're not yes yes he's still doing it he's not getting signature shoe he's not getting those three guys are all three
Starting point is 01:58:24 mvp yes he is yeah they three guys are all three MVPs. Yes, he is. Yeah, they all MVP because everybody moved out. Right, so... They're not MVPs together. So think about this. If they win three championships and each championships they're MVP each different year... But that's not what happens.
Starting point is 01:58:37 ...Russ, AD... That's not. We don't know what would happen. Yeah, we do. It's okay. Hypothetically. No, we're not. Yes, we are. You got three players you you can only assume
Starting point is 01:58:46 It's gonna kind of look like what? Sons where someone has to take such a backdoor role like you're not talking. We don't know You know who do you know Serge Ibaka? He'll just have to take the back row But what I'm saying is you're not having a triple-double Russ, but you're not happy We don't need that right happy. We don't need that Organization you don't but their legacies where they are right now where they are right now the pinnacle of their position that never happened It's yeah, we are okay with that. That's the point of the conversation. It's a race all the individual shit now OKC has three championships with maybe two so with at least two with these three guys as the first time we see some shit Like that's the owner. Yeah, that's that's why that's why the the owner
Starting point is 01:59:35 Should have known what he had to know what he was paying for but by the second one I'm out if I'm James because if I know anything can happen They can all leave. Yes. Yes. Same thing can happen. We can all leave after we've got our time. We can stay. When did KD win his MVP? After James left, right? Did he? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:53 Yeah. That was the first one. Yep. James gone. Yep. And then when did Russ win his? After KD left. Boom.
Starting point is 02:00:00 That's cool. That's what happened. And then James was next. Yep. It all happened after. So let's say they stayed together three years after that. No MVPs. At least one.
Starting point is 02:00:08 At least one. Only KD probably wins the MVP. The other two, they don't split. They do because after that one ring, they definitely split. They split up and they still win it. Why? Why? And they still split.
Starting point is 02:00:18 Why? Because of my leg? Because I'm James. And I got a championship. I'm trying to go get mine now. Yeah. KD stays. I agree with that. Russ probably dips. That's being real. KD would have stayed. I'm trying to go get mine now. KD stays. Russ probably dips.
Starting point is 02:00:26 That's being real. KD would have stayed. Russ probably dips at some point. Yep. But we're champions at this point. We got one chip. Well, James stayed. We don't got nothing to prove.
Starting point is 02:00:33 Okay, well, then James stayed. James stayed. Whatever. There's a bad investment on the owner part. You didn't see it. James still get the signature shoes. Still cooking. Everything still happening.
Starting point is 02:00:41 Golden State seen it. They seen what they had. No, for sure. So we asked the chat, are the Warriors doing enough to surround Steph with a championship-level squad? No. 73% said no. But let's keep this thing moving.
Starting point is 02:00:56 They will be getting finals MVP. There's a third option. Don't you... Russ probably would have got one. Russ would have had a triple-double in the... But you either Russ well, I probably got one What's what I love double in a in it anybody committed any game Like there has to be a real you know better than Chris boss Because we got to see what he looked like by himself. In that moment, when he was the third option, he was not no Chris Bosh. He was never no Chris Bosh in OKC.
Starting point is 02:01:32 He had the lead. Are you saying the third option can't win the finals MVP? Andre Iguodala won MVP. We know what a third option looks like, right? We know what Klay looked like when Katie got there. We know what Bosh looked like, right? We do know what that looks like. A superstar that has to play a very bad role.
Starting point is 02:01:57 We know what love looked like when it was LeBron and Kyrie. We know those third options don't get the love. So whoever you want to give the third option to, trust me, it won't say MVP how it says it now. It won't say top shooting guard ever. It will. No. It will.
Starting point is 02:02:15 You know why? Because these three are the exceptions. They're rare unicorns on the same team. Because we've got to see them. And there ain't no third option. We've got to see them. You're putting third option on there for the sake of the game. Because of those other guys.
Starting point is 02:02:27 Because of those other guys. Man, no. This ain't no third. This ain't no third. He just happened to be in the third option on that team. He was ball dominant. Yeah, so you have a Bugatti sitting there playing bench minutes. Right?
Starting point is 02:02:41 How do I let this Bugatti go? He needs to be by himself. When we seen him by himself, we seen what happened. That Bugatti would have never touched his engine. We saw Spurs do that. Okay, see. Spurs! You can only give me Spurs because there's a
Starting point is 02:02:57 Kevin Durant there. That ball is coming here first. And that's fine, but that right there, show me. Listen, stay here for a couple years, two or three years, let's get it. But listen, we know you out of here. I already know. But I need to get this ring, though, with you. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:03:11 I just need to get this ring. Thank you. You can still go. Once we get this one, I'll gladly let you go. Yeah. You don't know who no one is until they buy themselves. We saw it. We knew it.
Starting point is 02:03:20 We definitely knew it. But we saw it. If they knew it, why they didn't pay $4 million? So they didn't know James Harden had disability. They didn't see it. We definitely knew it. But we saw it. If they knew it, why they didn't pay $4 million? So they didn't know James Harden had disability. They didn't see it. They see Ginobili. They seen a black Ginobili. They didn't see it if they wouldn't have gave him like $10 million or $15 million.
Starting point is 02:03:35 They seen a black Ginobili. They did not see MVP. $4 million. I don't know why. Hey, we got two other motherfuckers over here. $4 million? You ain't gonna squeeze this for 4
Starting point is 02:03:46 Nope Yes For 4 If I seen You know we can't do it If I seen a 4th best shooting guard in history You know we can't do it
Starting point is 02:03:52 Coming off the bench fucking 4 million dollars is light work We can't do it man Because I know we win the championship We're a small we're a small market
Starting point is 02:04:01 and you know we can't do it You talk about small market teams praying not to not to pay the super guys because you don't got the bread. You said it over and over again. If they win a championship, how much is the franchise worth? If you got them for the four, if you get them for the four, though,
Starting point is 02:04:15 if you get James Harden for that four million, you actually cheated the game because we can't afford none of them, and we got them early. Wait, wait. Hold on. If I'm paying you $4 million and I know what I have, like, you know how, like, they knew what they had with Kobe. They made trades.
Starting point is 02:04:39 Like, he knew what Kobe was going to be. If I know what James Harden's going to be, the money don't matter. You know why? Because if I know this man is an MVP and this is what he has and he stays and it costs me $4 million, the championships makes my team go from a billion to $3 billion. We win two, $3 billion to $5 billion.
Starting point is 02:04:57 I know that. So this $4 million is irrelevant at this moment because the championship gives me billions. But the problem is he didn't see what... So that's his fault? That's what I'm saying. I mean, did the same thing happen with Daryl Morey? That's the GM's fault.
Starting point is 02:05:12 Daryl Morey and James Harden agreed on something, on some back-end shit, right? I'm going to take less. You're going to pay this back to me on the back end. I'm going to sign with y'all, right? Psych. Does this sound familiar about what could have been done that ended up doing and you ended up doing later down the line? But they didn't see it. They didn't see the value. Did Daryl Morris see the value when he decided to go against the deal he told he was going to give him?
Starting point is 02:05:41 He seen value in it? I'm supposed to give you max, it's kind of like that 20 and 10 ain't max money it's kind of like no this wasn't like that lawsuit no that was 20 and 10 ain't nice man oh no daryl morty was giving them the money the owner said nah oh so what owner is saying no with the four million the owner said no to four right well they didn't they didn't see it they didn't see i didn't i don't know why they didn't see it. They didn't see it. I didn't see it. I don't know why they didn't see it. I don't know why they didn't see it.
Starting point is 02:06:07 I don't think they want to pay that luxury tax. The luxury, that's what I've been saying the whole time. I don't want to pay luxury tax to win a championship to be worth billions.
Starting point is 02:06:13 You know how much I got. If I know that, it's a small market, like you said. If I know that... Sacramento's not going to send that bread on big markets.
Starting point is 02:06:21 We already had this conversation. How much is the luxury tax? We had this conversation. If I know the luxury tax? We had this conversation. If I know I'm going to win a championship. I'm praying Halliburton don't do this so we don't have to pay him. Owner is a broke boy, though. What did the...
Starting point is 02:06:34 I'm praying De'Aaron Fox don't do this so we can't pay him. I'm praying James Harden don't do nothing... Four million versus Matt. What is the difference between... There's no different than... Who had the second pick in the NBA draft when Aiton came?
Starting point is 02:06:53 There's a guy who said, hey, I might have fucked up. Right? Ha ha. I didn't see this. I didn't see Luka averaging fucking 33, 99. I didn't see that. I didn't see it. Some of the motherf. I didn't see that. I didn't see it.
Starting point is 02:07:07 Some of the motherfuckers just don't have eyes for shit. Macrame. That was flattery, though. But what did Mark Cuban say? My metric said this is going to be a star. So I'm going to do whatever it takes to attain this. So if I got to craft this to switch it, and we see what he is. Some people can see it.
Starting point is 02:07:25 Some people can't. Some people get lucky. He's in shark tank. Just guessing. He just be guessing. He guessed. What's the fucking good guess? Everybody missed out on the guess.
Starting point is 02:07:37 He guessed right. That's it. Fucking hit the lottery. Got him. Pick him. Him. What you think about him? Think about Michael Jordan, right?
Starting point is 02:07:46 Third pick. You like, how's the best motherfucker that ever walked third pick? Because the other two teams didn't see this shit. Sam Boyd. He was the national player of the year. Yeah. All right, well, let's. I'm pretty sure.
Starting point is 02:07:57 I'm pretty sure after the first season, they wish they could have took that shit back. All it took was about two months. Like, oh, hey, you know what? Hey, can we redo this shit? I done fucked up. I done fucked up. You said what you said. They picked for position.
Starting point is 02:08:11 They can't say I fucked up when we wasn't looking for money. I know I needed a center, but let's just bring that shit back. Let me do that again. I fucked up. Let me rewind. I know I needed a big man, but shit. I'll take Jordan. I can find fucking seven foot now.
Starting point is 02:08:23 He had a grocery store. I see a big motherfucker at the grocery store that can be, Jordan, can you play with this for a couple years? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We can do that. All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. Hey, everybody up there ain't earning a check. No, that's a fact.
Starting point is 02:08:37 No, that's a fact. That's a fact. Hey, listen. Hey, Sean, everybody got a podcast. Everybody's got a podcaster. We are technically YouTubers. I'm just saying, all right? We are technically YouTubers, according to my children.
Starting point is 02:08:50 That's a fact. YouTubers are celebrities. One more topic we want to get to. Grizzlies and Mavs met in Dallas Tuesday in a matchup featuring two of the best young guards in the league. Like you mentioned, Luka Doncic and John Morant. Grizzlies were riding a six-game winning streak. Looked like they were going to cruise to an easy win, but the Mavs said not so fast. Luka had 37 points, 12 rebounds, and four steals.
Starting point is 02:09:09 11 for 22 from the field. Five for nine from three. Doing his thing. Looking nice after coming back from that wrist injury. Ja had a season-high 31 points, along with four assists, three steals, knocking down 11 of his 22 shot attempts. The Mavs were down 15 points in the fourth quarter We're found mounting their biggest comeback of the season, but let's take a look at this right here
Starting point is 02:09:29 Ja you see right here Just kind of lightly lays that ball in on the dunk not really fine We'll get some more on that in just a second But Mavs were down 15 points fourth quarter before mounting their biggest comeback of the season Spencer Dinwiddie scored nine of his 16 points in the final period Knocking out back-to-back threes with under two minutes left in the game to help the Mavs get a five-point lead,
Starting point is 02:09:51 which we'll see here. But let's watch a little bit more of Luka up. What do you say, Shaq? Can't say. Say that $100. And I... I know this is off-topic. T.J. Washington knocked down the three to seal the game. Mavs had 25 turnovers miss 14 free throws still got the dub plus 30 and free throws though
Starting point is 02:10:10 But with the wind Luca improved to seven to one in his career and head-to-head games Verse John Moran Madison won five straight games third in the West Gill make your point and then I will get to mine Y'all remember that workout It was like a dribbling workout with Luka. Yeah, and he was going... He was working out with Steph and he was going... He was trying to do Steph's workout and he looked horrible.
Starting point is 02:10:31 Yes. How do you... Think about our NBA draft workout. And most now is by yourself. How do you see this in their workouts? This has been the conversation we had with Joe Boumizar about this exact thing we were talking about. You can't see talent through drill work
Starting point is 02:10:54 because the talent is instinctual. We work off instinct. So when the defense is playing against us, we're not going to do drill work against that defense. We're going to do instinct. We're using our instinct against this guy. We're using the actual drill work. It's a tool.
Starting point is 02:11:10 It's my tool. I'm going to use the hammer on him. I'm going to use the screw right here. Whatever it is, they don't take into account that part. It's the easiest part. It's always been like I'm sitting here like you're watching him. If he just went through a workout by himself, you'd be like, he's lazy. He's got a shave.
Starting point is 02:11:28 He's slow. How's he going to get his shot on? He makes shots. You know what I mean? He shoots the lining out there, motherfucker. He shoots the lining out of it. He's slow. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:11:37 And you don't see how he gets it. Like you can't watch his workout and be like, okay, he's a star. I'm going to pick him one, two, or three. Same thing with a Jokic. To see who Jokic is today, I think y'all need to reevaluate how you're processed. Because there's no workout that you're going to have Jokic by himself to show you Jokic. Nope. You're not going to see his vision, his IQ, his ability to make plays.
Starting point is 02:12:11 You're not going to see any of that in a one by himself workout going through your stupid ass drills. Coming off pin down. What are you saying? That they need to go watch more games. The evaluation process sucks. I'm just talking about just for extreme. Like, there's a reason some teams hit it on the head every single time, and there's a reason some teams miss all the time.
Starting point is 02:12:34 Their process is very different. That's why I say they guess. Mark Cuban guessed because there's no way you could tell that Luka could do these things against NBA players from one game when he was 15. Like, you have to see, like, overseas. I play overseas, so I followed Luka when I was over there. So I'm like, okay, this kid, he has it. I've seen enough of it.
Starting point is 02:12:57 Y'all ain't watching enough of it. You saw that 17. I'm seeing it. So it's like, if you looking at him drill work, like we watch Przingis is like Przingis is seven-foot athletic we seen this from a European before like this, but when he get out there and playing with guys you like oh this different Oh, this is not a hat. No, they had him as the best player their algorithm had him as the business man Oh, he was with Joe, but they had him like that because he did not work out against nobody. Who? Porzingis. Oh, no, I'm
Starting point is 02:13:25 talking about Luka. Luka? They hid Luka, too. They hid both of them, so now our evaluation... Our evaluation of them, you will never know until they get on the floor. Yeah, but, I mean, but Luka, like, Luka was playing against... I mean, you know, Luka's playing
Starting point is 02:13:41 against OKC at 17 years old. Like, you can't tell by, like, he was European. Oh, because then it ain't enough time. It's one game. He could... Because Europeans could have one good game against an American team. I'm saying...
Starting point is 02:13:53 But even if you look at the league then as an American player, you're like, man, nobody... Who the fuck is playing in the EuroLeague? What you mean? Yeah, that's what we look... The EuroLeague is the second best league. Yeah, but it's not the NBA.
Starting point is 02:14:05 So if you're coming from the NBA and you're looking over at the EuroLeague, you're like, if he's 17 getting the MVP, come on, bro. Ain't no competition over there. I'm just saying that's what it looks like. What they think, but we know. We like, yo, man. You got to have some smart ass scouts, man. That's okay, and that was going to be my next thing.
Starting point is 02:14:24 The scouts bad then? The people that are bringing back the information. There's just smart-ass scouts, man. Okay, and that was going to be my next thing. Are the scouts bad, then? Yeah. The people that are bringing back the information. There's just certain types of scouts. Like, you know, just no different than just all of us, right? We look at the game different. We look at... Energy. Energy.
Starting point is 02:14:37 Like, we're looking at different things on what someone brings to the table, so we can all look at the same guy, right, and have different opinions about it, right? Yep. We can all look at the same guy, right, and have different opinions about it, right? Yep. We can all look at it and say, you're going to be like, hey, yo, dude balling. You're going to be like, oh, he's ass. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:14:53 And I'm going to be like, not that he might be special. He's trying. He got potential. He got potential. Uh-huh. So now you have to make sure the guys that you're hiring understands. They're not looking at black and white. They see what we see, all three of us.
Starting point is 02:15:09 He sees the trashness. I see a little bit of what Brandon was seeing. I definitely see what Gil was seeing. I see the potential. And then we all come together. And he definitely sees what Shia's like. Oh, he's actually good. Look how good he is.
Starting point is 02:15:19 Around the floor, he knows the game. So when you have that collectivity, you're like, okay. So do you feel like ex-NBA players should be more scouts? You think they should give us a job because the way we think and what we, like, our mindset of the game? It all depends, man. You got to have, when you're picking scouts, you got to have a conversation with them, right?
Starting point is 02:15:38 You got to say, hey, all right, I need you to go to this game. Go to this game, watch it. Like, you already did your reach. Go to the game. Watch it. Like, you already did your reach. Go to the game. Watch it. Tell me who the first, second, third best player is. Right? Just off of what you're seeing.
Starting point is 02:15:51 Mannerisms. Like, I need you to spot shit. Right? I need you to spot it. Right? I need you to spot a superstar before he plays. Right? We can watch a layup line and be like, we can see who's moving at a different frequency.
Starting point is 02:16:06 Right? You know that kid. You ask the question, like, if you're a scout, tell me, is the star player a leader or not? All of it. Just by watching him. Watching his mannerisms. Like, I just need to... Hey, you can see him in layup line
Starting point is 02:16:19 where everybody look to that guy that's the best player, like, oh, yeah, we following him. Because he do this, that means switch sides. Lay of line, switch sides. The leader don't even really say much. He be like, hey, man, switch that. Switch it, switch it. And everybody switched their side.
Starting point is 02:16:34 But I want to hear something quick. We're talking about leader star players. So John Moran, one of the most electrifying players in the game, known for delivering highlight reel dunks all over the lives of defenders that try to jump with him. But those dunks come with a price. And after the game against the Mavs, Ja told ESPN's Tim McMahon his dunking days may soon be coming to an end. So Ja said, quote, I'm not trying to dunk at all. Y'all think I'm lying. I'm dead serious.
Starting point is 02:16:57 Sometimes I get knocked out the air and a foul don't get called. And now I'm out longer than what I'm supposed to be sometimes. The foul might get called. I still hit the floor, but after the game, you might feel that little fall. So I just pick and choose, man. Hey, two points is two points. I get it done. That's all that matters.
Starting point is 02:17:14 So we showed that clip of the game highlights. Ja had the opportunity to do one of those highlight reel dunks. Instead, opted for a basic two-handed dunk in the game. Only has three total dunks this season. And this brings me to something Kyrie said before the season started. He offered these thoughts on how athletic players can extend their careers in the league longer, saying learning how to fall is also the key to longevity. So how important is it avoiding unnecessary contact and learning how to fall for an athletic players longevity
Starting point is 02:17:48 There's a difference between Duncan and doing this shit he does Like he like he jumps too damn high like I mean, you know, it's gonna take falls I think he has to be just mindful on the dunks he's due. But I can tell you, verbally, I don't think he should have verbalized that. The last person that verbalized that took a hit in the media. That was Vince Carter, right? I think he did a no-for. I don't want to dunk no more. Duncan's overrated, right?
Starting point is 02:18:23 Everyone's paying to come see you do that. So I wouldn't verbalize it. It's just something you just don't do. But people pay big money. They don't give a fuck if you scored 30, right? You did the one dunk. You pulled it back. You took it to Tennessee,
Starting point is 02:18:40 bring it back to Memphis, goddammit. You made my day, right? You made my day. Right? That's, you made my day. Right? You, like, I get what you're saying. You had to protect yourself,
Starting point is 02:18:52 but you still had to be entertaining. Some of the dunks you try on people, yeah, okay, cool. Reminds me of Blake Griffin though. But when you're on
Starting point is 02:18:58 the fast break, go ahead, get loose by yourself. No, that's fine. Don't do the, you don't want to do the vents and you come up there and you're on the fast break and everybody's standing up and you do the, don't, you don't want to do the Vince and you come up there and you
Starting point is 02:19:05 on the fast break and everybody's standing up and you do the, because I can tell you what's going to happen. Oh, no, man, we can come here and see this shit. Right? That's what ends up happening. You on the fast break, everybody's standing up for you to get loose and you go up there with a two hand lady. Everybody's that's, they're disappointed.
Starting point is 02:19:20 No, for real. I mean, just be honest. As a, as a, as a fan. I mean, yeah, he spoiled us. Yeah. Like he's, he's, I'm sorry, motherfucker. We seen your real. I'm going to just be honest. As a fan. Yeah, he spoiled us. Yeah. I'm sorry, motherfucker. We've seen your elbows touch the motherfucking glass. Not the rubber, the glass.
Starting point is 02:19:32 I'm disappointed. Sean, you're disappointed. It's like having a subscription to OnlyFans. Yeah. And then she just want to retire. She want to find God. I don't want to do this. This is a monthly subscription, man. Right. We got this forever. And then she just want to retire. She want to find God. I don't want to do this no more.
Starting point is 02:19:47 This is a monthly subscription, man. Right. We didn't see. We got this forever. I don't find God on my side. What you mean you going to stop now? 12 months in. Yeah. I pay for the year.
Starting point is 02:19:55 Season pass. I'm a season ticket. Season ticket. You mean you're not going to show me no more? What you mean you're not going to show me no more? You got a boyfriend. The audacity. He don't pay like I pay. No, he don't. You get a boyfriend now you got morals. You gotta get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 02:20:06 You got a boyfriend, you got morals. It's disappointing. As I said, what do we come to see now? Everybody's not coming to see... You told me it was forever. Yeah, everybody come here to see Memphis win. Come on. Right, we came to see you...
Starting point is 02:20:14 Some of us got on just Ja jerseys. Like, come on. We came to see you. We came to see you. We came to see you. We came to see you. We came to see you. We came to see you.
Starting point is 02:20:22 We came to see you. We came to see you. We came to see you. We came to see you. We came to see you. We came to see you was forever everybody to come here to see Memphis win. Come on Some of us got on this job jerseys like we don't care about the guy it says 12 on the back That's if I wanted the team subscription. I would have bought team Subscription games imagine Beyonce ever now, but he's on that level. I'm just gonna talk to y'all tonight. I Mean, but he's on that like, you know, like far as entertainment for his basketball. He's on that level. I'm just going to talk to y'all tonight. I mean, but he's on that level. Like, you know, like, as far as entertainment, as far as basketball, he's on that level of, like, AI.
Starting point is 02:20:49 Everybody in the chat hit that refresh real quick. Like, you know, like, we want to see, like, we have to see that. Like, imagine going to the game and you don't see AI running around hitting shots. You don't see Derrick Rose doing the electrifying. Derrick, you can't be athletic tonight. But we saw the aftermath. In his prime. Imagine AI said, all right, I ain't going to go out there.
Starting point is 02:21:03 I ain't going to do the cross. I ain't going is it no one is like I how he jumps his body size You have to be careful of what you're doing violent dunker, but You got that great. Hey on the fast break. Can you do can you give us that? Don't say you're not gonna dunk no more I like cuz but decide a whole bunch of fighting not to dunk a whole bunch of people looked at that it was like You just don't know more. That's like yeah, you won't be on some Will Smith. I'm not gonna custom my raps no more y'all Yeah, like no more Douglas. I mean no more dancing either day
Starting point is 02:21:39 Chris Paul it you go straight to stay for all up in the video Franklin Franklin I You go straight to State Farm. All up in the videos. All up in the videos. So you ain't going to be Kirk Franklin. Kirk Franklin. All right. Jesus. All right, let me go. Stop. You got to stop.
Starting point is 02:21:51 We're a young thug, man. Let me see if he's still about the shits. You know what I mean? Like, we want you to find God, but not on our dollar. Okay? Not right now. Not right now. Maybe when you're done.
Starting point is 02:22:03 At the end of the subscription, you know what I mean, I'll go monthly baseless. But right now, I bought all 12 months. You can't come in the league like that and then just say, I'm going to turn the water off. No. Turn the water off. I need the jaw to come in, dunk on the motherfucker, then hit him with the goddamn Uzi. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:22:18 That's what I paid for. Hey, hey, hey. Two shoes, two shoes. I don't give a fuck what the media paid for. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,
Starting point is 02:22:29 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, Right getting those 30 pieces doesn't do in a flashy exciting way. That's kind of been jobs brand coming into this league That's why he's selling shoes at the rate. He's selling shoes That's what fans want to see we want to see the big dunks big plays you guys mentioned Derrick Rose You're also talk about guy like Blake Griffin who early in his career was dunking all over everybody But you see the long-term impact that that had even with D Rose Maybe if he would have toned that down just a little bit
Starting point is 02:23:00 I mean, I mean the way way to him you didn, he was in the four a lot, too. He rose and hurt himself in that atmosphere. No. He hurt his on just jump stops. And maintenance and what we be talking about. Maintenance and... But he was saying, like,
Starting point is 02:23:13 hitting the four, though. Yeah, but you take care of your body. Learning how to fall, learning how... Like, like, like... Like, Dwyane Wade, that's not gonna... He's talking about a guy who just...
Starting point is 02:23:21 He's moving at a different frequency and he has to learn how to... He has to learn what plays to make and what plays not to that just comes at just being smarter, right? Like when you just you can't jump over it you Superman, right? You gotta learn how but we can though when you were jump BJ you was a jumper. We're jumper. Did you have tendonitis? You have jumpers knee you have any of that? When you would jump or you guys going between the legs in high school. Yeah, he was. Okay, so he jumped that high.
Starting point is 02:23:46 I never had tennis. I was on the career team. You have all these things. I was on the career team. You have all these things. I don't know. Y'all wasn't outside for a career team in the family. I was just sliders and all these...
Starting point is 02:23:55 Part-time petations. Bro, when you have these things as a jumper, you know at some point you're going to start feeling that shit. Like, if... Ja been a jumper. He been a... Like, he not getting injured from the jumping Well, how much of a hit all I feel like job popularity is gonna take go like you said when we're not seeing these
Starting point is 02:24:11 Electrifying play these highlight real ducks. I think he had two of the most viewed on NBA social platforms He do some shit steel that has nothing to do with Duncaning, we'd be like, oh shit. How he does the 360, blocking, putting the elbow on, I mean, he's going to be, he's going to use his athleticism because that's how he plays the game. I just want to see when he come down and bop, bop, bop,
Starting point is 02:24:37 and he see big fella down there, you know how you have to play the game now to not go in and do what you do? It's going to mess you up. Because you're going to come, see that wide open, and do a floater? Do one of those? It's like when you could have just monkeyed out.
Starting point is 02:24:59 It's going to be a change, and I think it's going to be so awkward for him. And they're going to lose votes. Or think about... Nah, nah, nah. We just talked about Vince. Because he can still pop up and then turn at the end and throw one of those in there. But listen, if he stopped the flaredness and the flashiness, it's gonna hurt his voting.
Starting point is 02:25:15 Yeah, like you just said. Because that's what we know him of. They be like, man, I don't want... Listen, you don't need to dunk on people, just dunk on the fast break. No, you do need to dunk on people. But you said with the vent shit Vince going from Jersey to Orlando right
Starting point is 02:25:29 Jersey Vince was dunking was still dunking on this don't know so but he got it back member He said that when he was in Toronto Remember he was going on the road and he's like I'm not dunking no more and he started getting booed for making layup He said was oh for though, right? Yeah, right? That was 04? 04 was Jersey. Because he was trying to get out of Toronto. It was like that last year in Toronto, I think. Because it was Toronto because people were booing him. When he was going in, being on the fast
Starting point is 02:25:54 break, everybody was standing up. Whatever happened to Vince? Back in 2004, he said that. It's over, Red. I don't want to dunk anymore. For what? You can make a layup. He was on the Jersey at 04? And make it to the free throw line. That's when he made these comments. 04. Yeah, so think about Vince. He was on the jersey at 0-4. And make it to the free throw line. That's when he made these comments. 0-4. He started doing like mad sometimes.
Starting point is 02:26:07 Yeah, so think about Vince. He changed. His game changed. It was like he was Mr. Highlight. He was with the Raptors at that point. Yes, it was the last year of the Raptors. 0-4-5. And then he stopped. But what made him want to do that?
Starting point is 02:26:17 Probably because. But then he came out and said it was a joke. Yeah, because they started booing his ass on the road. Then when he got back to Jersey, then Vince came back. I want to know what made him say, like, because that's all people were saying. Yeah, because that's a point you try to prove that I'm not just the dunker. I'm not just the dunker. Yeah, but we knew that because they were like, he took the front of the...
Starting point is 02:26:38 No, he was getting compared to Kobe, but this was him and Kobe at this time. This was him, Kobe, T-Mac, that 03, 04, 02. It was all AI. It was them four. So he's like, I'm more than a dunker. I'm just as good as they are. Got you. So we asked the chat, is it smart for John Morant to quit dunking?
Starting point is 02:26:55 62% of the chat said yes. And look, you don't got to quit, but just migrate. Face yourself, young man. Listen, there's a difference between dunking and what Jod does. Yes, absolutely. That's a very... Take off. You job does yes absolutely that's a it's a very you take flight dog just being in the air is like because that makes you want to watch to see
Starting point is 02:27:15 when it's gonna happen like you said if i say i'm not gonna do the thing that makes a lot of y'all want to why am i watching at that point if you're not gonna do the thing but if you're doing a thing on the fast way you still giving my face because it's still you still taking flight, if you're not going to do the thing... But if you're doing the thing on the fast break, you still giving my fix, because it's still, you still taking flight, right? If you're not going, if you're not sitting there going through the lane, trying some Invincible Man shit, like... Like, you know, like when Ant-Man, like... We hope the young Ant-Man, the young Michael Jordans,
Starting point is 02:27:38 we, you know, we don't need to see that in the 90s. We, you know, you know, get a little smarter with it. Dunk, dunk when you, when you know you have the advantage versus trying to make a miracle highlight. Well, know, get a little smarter with it, dunk when you know you have the advantage versus trying to make a miracle highlight. Well, just give us the 360 layup still, please. Newsflash to players, fans want to see dunks and threes. But do they want to see threes as much anymore? Listen, you're not shooting threes and you're not dunking.
Starting point is 02:28:00 They're watching 1950s basketball. What happened to the ankle breakers, man? You just dribbling around. Ain't no ankle breakers. Ain't even that. We ain't even seeing no shifts. So all we see is threes. Because they don't want to guard.
Starting point is 02:28:13 Threes in their garden. You don't want to guard Kyrie today. You're not entertaining. No highlights. You don't think fans want to see tough shots like the Kobe? What's the tough shots? Yeah, but that's from good players. Yeah, but Luke could be. But from the most part, you ain't seeing nothing else besides the NBA. like the Kobe S what's the tough yeah but that's from good players those are yeah but Luka like Luka
Starting point is 02:28:25 Luka be you know but from the most part you ain't seeing nothing else besides dunks and threes and nobody want to get embarrassed
Starting point is 02:28:32 you don't want to be out there on the island with Kyrie come on man you don't want to get dunked on nobody want to get dunked on
Starting point is 02:28:36 nobody want to get crossed over so it is what it is it can do damage to your reputation on social media but let's move over to the west side
Starting point is 02:28:44 of the NBA Cup take a look but let's move over to the west side of the NBA Cup. Take a look at the four teams advancing from the west of the knockout stage. So, under the number one spot, they're taking on the Mavs, who are the fourth seed. Rockets are the second seed, and they're taking on the Warriors. So, who do y'all like coming out of the west?
Starting point is 02:29:02 I got Dallas winning that for sure. So Dallas-Milwaukee, Mr. B? No, no. I mean, I got Dallas beating the Thunder. And I'm trying... I got OKC and the Rockets. Advancing? Yeah, advancing.
Starting point is 02:29:16 Who you got going to the... I got OKC beating the Rockets. So OKC versus... Knicks. The Knicks in the championship. Ooh, kind of nasty. It is nasty. Yeah, but, you know. I mean, it's the plan. It's the plan, so... It should of nasty. It is nasty. But, you know.
Starting point is 02:29:25 I mean, it's the plan. It's the plan, so it should be nasty. Lakers, Pacers, last year. I think that Thunder owe the old Mavericks get back. Yeah, but do you think they have? They got the momentum right now. Yeah, but it's still your big brother. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:29:39 It's still your big brother right now. I don't know if they... They play next, right? The Tuesday? Mavs versus... I got the? The Tuesday? Mavs versus... I got the Mavs. Warriors versus Giannis? Yep.
Starting point is 02:29:52 Giannis them going to lose the next game. They going to lose the next game. No, they're not. Watch. I think... I really believe that... Giannis can win this. Just Giannis and Dame by themselves.
Starting point is 02:30:11 With Doc Rivers coaching? Like, no, no, no, what I'm saying. He's trying to jinx it. No, what I'm saying is, like, he gets sick for the next two weeks. I think they can win this. He's trying to jinx it. No, no, I'm just... You know, when you're talking about someone like...
Starting point is 02:30:23 You got SGA, who's going to be solid, right? You're going to give him his 30. You got Curry who's going to do what Curry's going to do. We got Luka who can take over. He can put up 50-something total, right? You got Giannis who we know is going to be, he's going to be dominant the whole time. Brunson, you got, Brun know is going to be dominant the whole time. Brunson is going to be dominant.
Starting point is 02:30:48 So I'm going to go with the guy who probably is just going to outplay everybody. The only thing is that we got to beat the Knicks, though, the Knicks defensively. Because when they start clapping on us, we don't have a... The only thing about the Bucs, once you find a way to stop, it's... The problem is what the Knicks is bad at is what yannis is great at getting to that basket okay right right you're you're talking about a guy who ain't settling right now he's sitting there making it a point that i'm gonna just go get to the basket so the fact that the knicks and carl can't stop that guy, that player.
Starting point is 02:31:28 I have Bucs. Okay, Gil. But we were talking about the West. I have Bucs over there, and then I think they're going to play Dallas. Luka Giannis. We like it. We'll see what pans out. I have Dallas Bucks. Hope the Bucks make it to Vegas.
Starting point is 02:31:47 You don't think they can make a surprise? They've been playing well so far. No, Houston going to beat the Warriors. So Houston, OKC, and then OKC will beat Houston, you think? OK. Just experience on that. I think even that will be a close game. Which one?
Starting point is 02:32:00 Houston, OKC. Houston been playing. That would be a good game, but I think Dallas is going to be there. All right, well, let's move. I don Houston, OKC. Houston been playing. That'd be a good game, but I think Dallas is going to be there. All right, well, let's move. I don't think OKC. I got to see if they figured out how to beat Dallas. Is Chet back? No.
Starting point is 02:32:12 No. OK, sorry. Let's move on to Mostly Fans. OK, we're back. Presented by Underdog. Download the app, use promo code GIL. Get up to $1,000 in bonus cash, plus a special pick-em. So we got a special question today
Starting point is 02:32:25 from underdog user Stevie M. It is Jay-Z's birthday. So in honor of Jay-Z's birthday today, what's your favorite Ho verse ever? Favorite Ho verse ever? Oh, I'm not a business man. I'm a business man. OK. I'm not a businessman. I'm a business man. OK, I'm not a businessman.
Starting point is 02:32:45 I'm a business man. Mr. B. Favorite Jay-Z verse ever. Once again, it's on. With him and Benny Segal. Once again, it's on. It's on. It's on.
Starting point is 02:33:05 Josiah Fields. They're like, like Jock with Jock said he ain't dunking. That's the same. So once again, it's on. OK, I don't know. I don't know that one. That's the verse. That's three lines. Mr. B, I don't remember.
Starting point is 02:33:19 That's three words, bro. That's not even on the Jay-Z album. Once again, it's on. No, it's on. Give me three words. It's on the Jay-Z album. Once again, it's on. He's like, so just give me three words. It's on. It's on. Or Family Feud. I'm a Jay-Z aficionado.
Starting point is 02:33:31 Shot this side. See you on all the New York gear repping. Probably the only real music head on the couch. Debatable, but... O.V. Baby. I'm so far ahead of my time. I'm about to start another life. Look behind you. I'm about to pass you twice.
Starting point is 02:33:48 Back to the future. Got to slow for the present. I'm fast. Niggas can't get past my past. Can't get past. Don't let me. I ain't going to keep going. I just about to stop that.
Starting point is 02:33:58 I done laughed you twice. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, Jay-Z. The satchel page of rap. Nobody knows how old he really is. That is the question.z The satchel page of rap nobody knows how old is that is the question? Like they like I'll forever be number two 55
Starting point is 02:34:17 Still rapping still going is First last year God. He's too rapid. Well, appreciate all you gentlemen. It's time to move the F around. I heard his album coming. Appreciate everybody in the chat for pulling up with us for another lovely day here in the arena. Appreciate all you fine gentlemen.
Starting point is 02:34:38 As always, for your exquisite basketball knowledge and debate. New York, New York. Well born in Germany. No L.A. in the cup this year. What y'all doing? What y'all doing for the L. Mm. Well-born in Jersey. No L.A. in the cup this year. What y'all doing? Oh, what y'all doing for the L.A. Cup? Shot, as you pointed out. He look like a rucker-ass.
Starting point is 02:34:52 Oh, yeah. He look like he be at rucking with the, uh... Just chilling at the rucker, like... Yeah, with the quarter waters, drinking. But then is that for kids in there? Y'all been here all day just watching the youngster just hooping, like, how's the game? Yeah, it's been mean in here.
Starting point is 02:35:04 Is that my work next to him? Is that my work over there? What is my work doing? What's so funny is, you would see Rashad at the most random shit. No, dead ass. Like, he the type that you see at a carnival, just chilling, just sitting.
Starting point is 02:35:21 Like, that's my kiss over there? That's my kiss over there? That's my kiss over here? Got all the toys, like, yo, what you doing here? Just one of these toys giving out to the kids. One of these toys giving out to the kids.
Starting point is 02:35:34 They can't hit no shots, man. It'd be at video game shit. Just mad shit. I'm everywhere. EDM shit. I'm going putt-putt. I'm going putt-putt. Right'm going putt-putt. I'm going putt-putt. Right down the road.
Starting point is 02:35:48 I'll be bored sometimes. You'll see anybody you want to see at the putt-putt. I tell you, go to Disneyland. You want to see some work, man. It's just lunchtime. Just go. It's just $100. Y'all don't know about that minute.
Starting point is 02:36:00 She's got a whole bunch of toys. She's like, yeah, yeah. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. I'm the Grinch on the 25th. I'm taking all about that minute. She's got a whole bunch of toys. She's like, yeah, that's good. I want this one. Merry Christmas. I'm the great on the 25th. I'm taking all this shit back. I'm taking all of it back. Well, that is our show for today.
Starting point is 02:36:13 We appreciate all y'all. This has been another episode of Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. Whoa, whoa. We will see y'all tomorrow. He the type to go out and give out a whole bunch of presents, right? Being nice. Someone say, yeah, it's my kids. That someone say, yeah, Mackenzie, that's you. Nah, that ain't me.
Starting point is 02:36:27 Nah. I don't do no shit like that.

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