Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena BATTLES Over Their Top 5 Active Point Guards

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Starting point is 00:00:46 Minus our namesake. Okay. We're getting monion. Okay, jelly bean. Monion. The fool. Jelly bean. Shout out to 2 Chainz, Larry Jones.

Starting point is 00:01:00 You a Lakers fan again, Sean? I am. You back? I am. Okay. You and Stephen A, yes. Welcome, welcome. You a Lakers fan again, Shop? I am. You back? I am. Okay. You and Steve and A, yes. Welcome.

Starting point is 00:01:09 Current Lakers or just the franchise as a whole? Hold on. So who the Knicks play? Who they play tonight? The Lakers. Wow. Oh, he's trying to jinx it. I see it.

Starting point is 00:01:21 Oh, Mo Nyon. I see the jinx. We getting Mo Nyon. I see the jinx. We getting Mon Young. I see the jinx. We getting Mon Young. 2 Chainz the most underrated rapper of all time. He said we getting Mon Young tonight.

Starting point is 00:01:34 2 Chainz? 2 Chainz. Mon Young. We do have a big Knicks-Lakers game this evening at the Staples Center. It's time to switch sides. Everybody else switch sides. Why can't I switch sides?

Starting point is 00:01:45 I don't know. You might be trying to jinx it. When you wear a Lakers jersey, that doesn't bode well for us. What you mean? This is not a Lakers jersey. It's the Lakers jersey. That's the greatest Laker ever. What? This is not a Lakers jersey. For sure. Well, this is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. We do not have Gilbert Arenas in the arena right now, but we do have...

Starting point is 00:02:03 Man, that shit is empty. ...the rest of the crew. My dog. My dog! Good shoes, Gil. But on this side of the couch, we got NBA champion of the world, Swaggy P. Nick Young... ...on time for Gil's Arena, presented by Underdog Woo Woo.

Starting point is 00:02:19 Also on time for Gil's Arena, presented by Underdog Woo Woo, representing Tough Crowd, Tough Crowd University, Mr. B. Brandon Jennings. You got a job interview today? Yeah, classy man. OK, so are you upgrading on me? Classy man. Little Brooks Brothers.

Starting point is 00:02:34 Oh, little Brooks Brothers? So you trying to get an interview too? The Brooks Brothers. You trying to get on ESPN too? Another interview. That's what we doing? I'm the classy man. Greater director role

Starting point is 00:02:47 type interview. Uh-uh. On this side of the couch, we got the bully from Oak Cliff, former number one pick, Kenyon Martin. Back in the arena.

Starting point is 00:03:00 Never foogazing under any stress of the imagination. Never. Unfoogazing. Un-Fugazi. I got the wrong one. Now we got a squad. It's all good, Kenyon. We have your back. This is Gil's arena.

Starting point is 00:03:14 Don't bother nobody, man. Kenyon brought some ribs to the arena today. If you watched the show yesterday, you know that Gil freezed the ribs that Kenyon previously brought about seven, eight months ago. Still eating them to this day, which may be the reason he's not on the set right now. Yeah, that brother starving.

Starting point is 00:03:33 And last but not least, we got the man known as Cemetery Larry, Rashad McCants, back in the arena. Wearing the jersey of the greatest Laker of all time, shot, as you may know know moved over to the Knicks You ain't give me the Jersey You don't pass the peas you don't sign the jerseys you don't do shit You don't even fucking takes back nigga. Maybe do you not touch back? Yeah, I got kids

Starting point is 00:04:05 My co-workers on't fucking take back about this What Come on it is Thursday y'all said you you called me out after the show. No, it's never after. Oh, you're already in the fourth web. No, no, no. Y'all go upstairs. I'll be up in a second. I mean, he did act. Y'all be up in a second.

Starting point is 00:04:31 Money on the line. I mean, he did act. Yeah. Y'all don't even look ready. No warm-ups either. No warm-ups either. Yeah. Call the boys up, God.

Starting point is 00:04:43 He's got B and Ryan. Wait, what is that, one and a half? We will be up in a second. You got Bean Ryan on. One and a half. Little Penny. Tell Gil to tie his shoes. Tell Gil to tie his shoes.

Starting point is 00:04:55 I'm like, did you spill something on him? I'm like, what kind of costume is that? I forgot all about it. I know y'all. I bet you did. You're looking all good, dude. She look at you. All right.

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Starting point is 00:05:37 or the link in the chat to claim your offer for tonight's game. We will get back to the partner pack when we do all that. Ah, fuck it, Let's go upstairs. Let's see what they talk about up there. Let's see what they talk about, King. I might get me a rib before we go, though.

Starting point is 00:05:56 Girls Arena crew getting ready to go. We mobile. We are mobile. Yeah! Highly motivated. Yeah, yeah. Let's go! Ready to get it. Ain't to it, but they're doing the baby will sleep on my shoulder man. Oh the baby will sleep I Sleep when I'm in my own words my shoulder

Starting point is 00:06:17 Junior too big to be sleeping on you. No fat ass. Not you too big to Oh Najee the new one Oh Not your Muhammad. All right, so we got to from right here. Yeah? Najee, the new one. Oh. Nigga fat as hell. Najee Muhammad. All right, so where we got to shoot from? Right here? Yeah, you know where it's at. Oh yeah, we got it. 0-1. Nah, we got that.

Starting point is 00:06:31 Oh. All right, so who going first? I need somebody to, uh. I guess it's out of us tops. Yeah, this is the ball I love. Can we shoot for who first? My ball right there. Take it.

Starting point is 00:06:40 Arena still has challenged the crew to a shooting contest. Can we shoot for who first? Yeah. Except for me and Kenyon, because he respects us. He don't want to get his ass busted. All right, I crew to a shooting contest. Can we shoot for who first? Except for me and Kenyon because he respects us. He don't want to get his ass busted. All right, I missed. Uh-oh. It's getting warm right now.

Starting point is 00:06:50 Ah! Gil got his vintage Adidas pros jersey. What y'all doing? So, uh, oh, oh, oh, oh. No, no, it's me and you. No, I pick. Yeah, yeah. Gil picks right now in the arena.

Starting point is 00:07:02 Because he's last, so it's just. I'm last, but I pick, right? OK, but me and Rashad got it. I'm cool. I don't know what I got wrong. I pick Shaq. Gil picks right now in the arena. Because he's last. I'm last. But I pick, right? Okay, but me and Rashad got it. I'm cool. I'm third. Pass to P, as the young kid said, I will not be making any passes today because y'all hated last time.

Starting point is 00:07:14 Since he would go first. Y'all can get your own rebounds. We're going to rebound four. Wait, wait, wait. Shaq, you can pick your rebounders. I'm going third. But I say if I did. And if we did get pulled over. For wait wait wait wait shy you can pick your rebound We are in gives rain it is a Thursday here beautiful Woodland Hills, California

Starting point is 00:07:38 Gills outdoor court about to get a shoot all going y'all. Let's shoot out last week. Oh It has already commenced. Oh! 0-2. Hey, man, you should have rolled a 24. Kobe 8 didn't shoot 3s a lot. He didn't really shoot 3s like that. Up 1 for 3 shot. Unfazed by Gil's trash talk.

Starting point is 00:07:54 I'm just saying. Unfazed. You know what I mean? Ah! 1-4. Uh-oh. 1-4. Uh-oh.

Starting point is 00:07:59 Oh, damn. They got Brandon running around. Got Mr. B running around the court. Yeah. No warm-ups, though, man. 2-5. 2-5. I didn't warm up.

Starting point is 00:08:08 You sweating. 3-6. Yeah, go get back. Who's sweating? Who's sweating? Get back. 3-6. Oh, 3-7.

Starting point is 00:08:14 I got three more shots. Don't touch it. Don't touch it. I wasn't touching it. No, do not touch the ball, Gil. Hey, first of all, why are you hyping him? You in this contest, too. With the Brooks brothers.

Starting point is 00:08:24 3-8. 3-9. 3-9. 3 you in this contest you have a Brooks brothers Nine three nine Brooks brothers and or ten. I that's just rookie Kobe Shot six for ten last week or four ten. Don't warm up though It's real cold. I mean you read about what rebound for you like me to rebound for you Okay, no, no, no leave relie her. No, I won't leave her. He's always complaining last time. He got on me.

Starting point is 00:08:48 Mr. B up with the Brooks Brothers. Damn. On one. With the Brooks Brothers. Damn. Ooh, one, two. One, two. Pretty shot, B.

Starting point is 00:08:56 One, two. Brooks Brothers B. Tell him, B, you got a pretty shot. Tell him. Brooks Brothers B. Two for three. Three for four. Uh-oh. You see it.

Starting point is 00:09:04 No warm-up. He's locked in. Look at him. Shoot it, B. Three for three. Three for four. Uh-oh. You see it. No warm-up. He's locked in. Shoot it, B. Three for four. Oh, three for five. Five more shots. He's so serious. Why you so serious? Four-six. Have you ever seen a dog?

Starting point is 00:09:16 Mr. B, four for six right now. Improved upon last week. Damn! Close the window! Come on, dog. You have four sevens. You cannot do more here. You can't shoot like you shoot. You can't shoot that. You hit him? Force up on him, girl. You cannot do more, man. You can't shoot like you shoot. You can't shoot that if I can't shoot like you shoot, my nigga. You did that when I was shooting.

Starting point is 00:09:30 Yeah, you did. You did that when I was shooting. He just did this. So did we count it or not? We counted or not? Yes, yes. 5-8. Fuck.

Starting point is 00:09:38 Damn, that's some bullshit. Yeah, that was 5-8. Soon as he got ready to shoot, he released it. 5-9. Oh, I was up over here like this. You wouldn't look. And Gil, when you're at the bowling alley, you came in at the same time. 5-9.

Starting point is 00:09:50 He did this shit on purpose. 6-10 for Mr. B. 6-10. Matching his total from last week. Bro, bro, bro, you saw that, right? Thank you. Go ahead, Gil. It's on you.

Starting point is 00:09:58 6 for 10 is the number to beat. And you been training. I been training. Oh, boy, you got this wet. Hey, don't rebound. Nah, that's water. Oh, okay. Your skin looks all... 6 for 10, the number to beat here at Gil's Arena. We got a damp skin.

Starting point is 00:10:08 Another week, another shootout. What's the entire issue? Six for 10. Gil shoots. Gil on top. Six for 10, not bad in the suit, though. Man, y'all had to go first. You went seven, but, man, this shit is so weird.

Starting point is 00:10:16 Swaggy has been named the rebounder for Gil. I got you, baby. His 10 shots. How you want it? Huh? Back, front. No ditty. No ditty on a Thursday.

Starting point is 00:10:26 No ditty Thursday. Did you get to redo that shot? No. No ditty Thursdays, ladies and gentlemen. 6-10. 6-10. Yeah, I didn't get to redo, so. Come on.

Starting point is 00:10:35 You stalling now, Gil. He did give him a redo. I did not. No, he didn't. They said it was no redo. He was 4 for 7 if he missed it in. Because you did it to me, too. And he went 6 for 10. You did it to me, too. He went 6 for 10. He was 4 for seven if he missed it in. Because you did it to me too. And he went six for ten.

Starting point is 00:10:45 He did it to me too. He went six for ten. He was four for seven, went six for ten, Gil. Six the number to beat currently. Should have been seven for ten, but you know you like to cheat. I'm sorry, my bad. The air ball really negative. Oh, that's just a bit outside.

Starting point is 00:10:56 The air ball is really negative. Did you see him shoot the ball while I was shooting? One-two. All that shooting, man. For our show's namesake, Gil. I know I am. Bird arenas. One-two. Look at that pass. Two-1. 1-2. All that shooting, man, you... For our show's namesake, Gil. I know. I am. Bird arenas. 1-2.

Starting point is 00:11:06 Take that pass. 2-3. What the? 3-4. Damn! Nothing to do it. Ooh, 4-5. Damn! She trying to come for my throne. 5-6. You about to do it.

Starting point is 00:11:25 My shit a little rusty. I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna make a shot probably. I had a wild night last night. 5-7. Man. My back ain't really moving right. Play home for Gil.

Starting point is 00:11:33 6-the number to beat. 6-8. Gil has tied Mr. B with two shots remaining. There we go. There we go. You got to put the mojo on him or something. Goddamn. Yeah, like that.

Starting point is 00:11:41 Like that? Ooh, 7-9. Gilbert unfazed. That's good. That's good. That we go. There we go. You gotta put a mojo on the song. Goddamn. Yeah like that Boom seven nine. That's Gilbert unfazed the currently 18 Swagger you should know we going Swaggy versus Gill?

Starting point is 00:12:05 Last week's winner versus this? I got nothing. Bro, I didn't even know where the range was. Hell no! Last week's winner. No! Last week's winner versus this week's. Last week's winner, so it's a big challenge.

Starting point is 00:12:17 No! Come on, Nick. Come on, Nick. Let's go. I'm taking my talents to South Beach. Come on. Last week's winner versus this week's winner. Come on, Nick.

Starting point is 00:12:26 Don't fuck with Tim. Now that I know we're doing this every Thursday. I'm not my shit. Just because I want some more ribs, I'm going to listen to you today. Yeah. Because he wants more ribs, ladies and gentlemen. Kenya came through.

Starting point is 00:12:41 Bless the Gills Arena crew with a fresh slab of ribs. Uh-oh, swaggy. I need a warm up. I ain't shot the ball yet. crew. With a fresh slab of ribs. Uh-oh, Swaggy. I didn't get a warm-up. I ain't set the ball yet. I didn't get no fucking warm-up. No fucking warm-up, man. What the fuck? 8 for 10. You niggas made me shoot. I just got here.

Starting point is 00:12:54 I just pulled up. 8 for 10. The number to beat, Swaggy. Damn. I won't even say nothing either. Fuck. Damn! 0-1. Foot was on the line, sir, anyway. Make sure your foot is not on the line.

Starting point is 00:13:07 Oop. Ah, shit. 02, foot was on the line again. Up and over. There we go. There we go. This counts. 13.

Starting point is 00:13:15 There we go. That's why you got to rack off these next seven shots. 24. Uh-oh. There you go, Nick. That's it right there. Over. I am legend.

Starting point is 00:13:23 35, I am legend. Ah, fuck. Damn. 3-6. That's game. That's game. That's game. Whole soul. That's game.

Starting point is 00:13:31 3-7. Steve Austin. Expect no mercy. Swaggy will obtain from the rest of his shots. How about you bring it up here, Gil? 3-7. You know what it is? Hey.

Starting point is 00:13:40 I'll beat them. What's this? 3-7. You beat who? You beat who? 3-7, Swaggy. 3-7. No, 3-6. 3-6. 3-7. I missed three. That's it. Oh, you're so good.

Starting point is 00:13:48 I may miss two, may three in a row, then just miss that one. And then you just missed that one. We'll give you 3-6. Chat, is Swaggy correct? Fuck. Now 3-7. Either way. 4-8. Two more. 4-9.

Starting point is 00:14:04 Hey, listen. Pass the piece. 5%. Fuck! OK. OK. Hey, I like that shirt. I mean, I did, though.

Starting point is 00:14:12 Man, that was a big shit. It don't count, bro. I got a lot. It don't count, bro. I'm not kidding. Look what I got on. It's you, fucking. It got on a big.

Starting point is 00:14:19 Goldstone. Fuck. I just take over a jump. Give me my money. We got to jump, though. Let's run it back. Man. Let's run it back. Let's run it back it back. Run it back. Run it back.

Starting point is 00:14:25 Run what back? Back. Run it back. Two on two again. Yeah. Yeah. Run it back. I mean, yeah.

Starting point is 00:14:33 Y'all play two on two. Run it back. Two on two. I don't. Run it back. Yeah, y'all play two on two. I'm not getting the ball. Run it back.

Starting point is 00:14:41 Kaden said he was leaving the arena if y'all play two on two. You better shoot off. You better let go. You want to run it back. We're not getting the ball. We're two on the league. You're not getting the ball. Running back. K-In said he was leaving the arena if y'all play two on two. You better not. You better not. You want to run it back? Run what back?

Starting point is 00:14:51 Run it back. Run it back. Make it what you mean. We playing it right back. Look, I got eight on the first try. If y'all beat eight, then come holla at me. Two on two, man. Running back.

Starting point is 00:15:01 Two on two? Oh, yeah. He got on Vans. What's that mean? Work with your hands? Mr. B has on Vans. He got on G. He got on Vans. What's that mean? Work with you? Mr. B has on Vans. He got on jeans. He got on bell bottoms. He got on bell bottoms.

Starting point is 00:15:09 Two on two? He got on Vans. Swaggy has on bell bottoms. You know. What you mean? It don't matter what we got. I don't need that now. We're going to three right now.

Starting point is 00:15:17 What are you talking about? You easy. You really about to do it? We're going to three right now. You easy. Give him the chump. Like that. Just like that. Are you really about to do it? Are you it? Let's go. What I'm telling you is this.

Starting point is 00:15:25 Are you really about to do it? Are you really about to do it? Hey, this is a team award. Are you really about to do it? I got him this time. So I don't care. I got him this time. This is a team award, so I don't really care.

Starting point is 00:15:35 You feel me? Are you playing? I got my win. I got him this time. Who bought it? Three by ones. Everything counts as one. We're playing prison rules.

Starting point is 00:15:42 No fouls. We won last game. Two for it there. Whoa. I'm good now, baby. Shoe program rules. No fouls. We won last game. Two for it then. Whoa. I'm good now, baby. Shoe program rules. Pelican back. Ah!

Starting point is 00:15:49 Uh-uh. Yeah! You might not get another shot. You know where to go. Yeah. Cemetery Larry has taken his chain off. Cemetery Larry has taken his chain off. Hell yeah!

Starting point is 00:16:02 Get down there, motherfucker. Nobody ain't playing no games, man. Get me in. No, no, get your ass down there, motherfucker! No way he ain't playing no games, man. Get your ass down there, man. Man, he pushing. Come on, go, spring, spring. Will Gil make his first pass in the arena? Look at that way. Feet feet. Uh-oh. Yes, yes. Oh, he passed it!

Starting point is 00:16:18 No, that's not out of bounds. Go score! Prison rules! Prison rules! I said prison rules, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no.

Starting point is 00:16:29 No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no.

Starting point is 00:16:37 No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no,? All right, ball don't lie. Yeah, I thought he was rolling. Ball doesn't lie.

Starting point is 00:16:45 Then you pass, don't try. I had the perfect pick and roll. Shoot the ball. Oh, now that you hot, you want to pass. Okay, I get it. We playing the three by ones. Oh, Mr. B. Mr. B. Oh. Oh, yes.

Starting point is 00:16:53 Too easy. Too fucking easy. Too fucking easy. It came from work. It came from work. It just came from work. What's your problem? You set me up.

Starting point is 00:17:01 Go ahead. Go ahead. I'm in help. I'm in help. I'm in two nine. What's your problem? You set me up. Go ahead. Go ahead. I'm in help. I'm in help.

Starting point is 00:17:09 I'm in 2-9. 1-0. I'm in 2-9. Oh, yes. Nope. Oh, yes. Just a bit outside. 1-0.

Starting point is 00:17:17 Oh, yes. Don't worry about that. Don't worry about it. We're going to get the switch. We're going to get the switch. Mr. B, again, we're going to get the switch. Oh. Oh, he gave it. Yeah. Yeah. Ball in the pool. Ball in the switch. Oh. Oh, he gave up. Yeah. You're passing today.

Starting point is 00:17:25 Yeah. All right. Ball in the pool. Ball in the pool. I'm done. I'm done. Who left the ball in the pool? What you mean?

Starting point is 00:17:33 Let's go. What you mean? Let's go. Who left the ball in the pool? Yeah. Come on. You played too much. It's right here.

Starting point is 00:17:41 You played too much, man. No, man. That's why I don't pass you the ball. Mike Fadino, who put the ball in the pool? That's why I don't pass't pass it about he played too much. Hey, yo hit the ball in the pool. Come on. No you playing They're hoping that hard deep is this like come on Yeah It's Mr. V. I'm like, yeah! One, zero. One, zero. Thursday in the arena. Yeah! All ones.

Starting point is 00:18:07 All ones. All ones and twos. Ones and twos. Ones. One. He tired? Look at him. He got his hands on his hips.

Starting point is 00:18:15 Get a tire. Get your hands off your hips. Come on. Let's go. I got to play. No, no, no. I got to play. I got to play, man.

Starting point is 00:18:23 Get the fuck out of here. Come on. Can we get a five second? One, one, flat. Y'all got three seconds to get this shit going Swaggy currently strategizing any day guys gramming your play down one to nothing right now I'm hurt, he hurt, he hurt. Oh, shit. I'm hurt. Two zip. Two zip. Two zero, two zero. Swaggy hurt. That's a game, that's game. No, two zero.

Starting point is 00:18:58 Four feet. Four feet, game over. Four feet, game over. Ladies and gentlemen. Ah! I want to bring in the stick. Get that deep thing. No, you're not like that. You're not that buff.

Starting point is 00:19:10 That buff motherfucker guarding me, man. I'm fucking strong as shit, man. Why you move me with an elbow? Why you have tapped out? You too. I am legend. You move me with an elbow? I'm no longer a legend.

Starting point is 00:19:19 Whoa, dog. I'm not playing against that shit. That's a 24-hour fitness nigga, man. That nigga too strong to be playing regular basketball. Man, they playing too hard. Back in the arena. Let me elbow me. What the fuck are doing?

Starting point is 00:19:30 A 23-1 prison workout trying to over here play against us. They turned the game off. Yeah, my man hurt. Can you get him some ice? Yeah. Yeah, I need a little ice. Shaw, give him the chain. I need a little ice. Shaw, give him the chain. Ah! Need a little ice.

Starting point is 00:19:45 I think I got the... Stop the count. I got the, uh, the knock-knees thing. What we were talking about yesterday? Mm-hmm. My knees is knocked. Knock-knees swaggy. Thank you.

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Starting point is 00:20:14 Let's do the tease into the partner pack if we could. Once I seen Brandon playing hard... All right, let's get that tease ready. I don't want Baron wasting his time for nothing. While swaggy nurses... ...300 pushers last night. Listen, our team is two. Listen, we 2-0, so I'm not losing.

Starting point is 00:20:28 No, we got to. No, we ain't finished yet. That's a forfeit. We ain't listening. That's a forfeit. That's a forfeit. That's a nothing. That's a forfeit.

Starting point is 00:20:35 If I went up, we're going to three. If it was 1-0, yeah. If it was 1-0, it's 2-0. It's really 2-0. It's 2-0. Yeah, it's 2-0. That means that we up. That's a game.

Starting point is 00:20:44 No, it's up. It's our ball.. That means that we up. That's our ball. No, it's up. It's our ball. It's our ball. No, we don't finish the game. Yeah, you heard us. Elbow. Who the hell just quit?

Starting point is 00:20:52 Yeah, it's the elbow. Rap my knee. It's my knee. My knee. Rap my knee. Facts. Rap my knee. Rap Swaggy's knee.

Starting point is 00:21:00 Ah, yes. I got the same thing happened to Kyrie. A step back that he created. The same thing happened to Kyrie. Let me try to go to school 80s take this whole way to hold it Rub some testing on it. They're the whole State dry it hold it right. Ah, ladies. Um, so we're gonna continue this next week. Yeah

Starting point is 00:21:17 Yeah, is it two or one or y'all taking that second? Well, we got to finish that game. So we got to finish But it's y'all ball to start. Okay. Well ladies,'m gonna make sure you tune in next week to give arena to see the conclusion. We know third game So I'm our second or two entry and quit No, that was the place That's what we gonna do. I know you moving in pain. I know you can't move in those In those jeans He can't go nowhere. In the pick and roll, you're kind of hurting me.

Starting point is 00:21:47 So let's just go back down there. Hey, man, can you be the normal player, man? What do you mean? Yeah, because that shit ain't cool. He's too strong to be playing with a spit. What do you mean too strong, dawg? The pick and roll action is crazy. Hey.

Starting point is 00:22:01 He got to be the ref, dawg. Yeah, you got to play with Josiah. You got to be the ref, dawg. He got to be the ref, dog. Yeah, you got to play with Josiah. You got to be the ref, dog. Where's Norris Cole at, man? Where the fuck is that? They said Swaggy got the MB, bitch. He got to be the ref, dog. That kid can't.

Starting point is 00:22:15 Prison rules. Shoot program. Hit me with a pick, dog. That shit hurt, man. That pick and roll action is crazy. Switch it. I got to set a screen on this? Switch it.

Starting point is 00:22:24 I did switch. Switch it again. Bring it set a screen on this? Switch it. I did switch. Switch it again. Bring it back. Nah, that's crazy, bro. He moved me with an elbow. The dribble handoff, though. You got ice packs. The dribble handoff is too nasty.

Starting point is 00:22:37 It's too nasty. Ice packs, first aid kits. You turn that corner. Mr. B cooking in the Brooks brother. It's too easy. It is Mr. B cooking in the Brooks brother. They got the D's in the lobby. It's too easy. It is a wild day here in the arena ladies and gentlemen. We do have some basketball topics to discuss. So here's what's cracking in the arena today. That's why they talking about getting in the game.

Starting point is 00:22:54 That's why I didn't want to play. He's sweating. He's sweating. Yeah, we're not. Too good looking to sweat. I'm chill. It was cold. It was a little chilly.

Starting point is 00:23:03 But here's what's cracking in the arena today What they were cold? It looked like But once again, here's what's cracking in the arena today Yannis joined an elite club and the Bucks blowout win over the Mavs is the Greek freaks greatness being taken for granted Two Celtics made history by dropping 40 in the same game and it ain't who you think. Will Boston be the first team to go back-to-back since the Dubs? And Lakers governor Jeannie Buss opened up on the Lakers decision to move AD for Luka. Was she keeping it real or throwing shade

Starting point is 00:23:39 about the trade? Before we get into all that, as always ladies and gentlemen, download that Nundog app, use promo code GIL, get up to $1,000 in bonus cash, plus a special pick. I already mentioned the Luka promo we got tonight. Every game Luka plays, Underdog is hooking you up. The Luka promo has hit four straight times. Shout out to our Luka and savior, our Slovenian sensation, the man who has brought L.A. back, none other than Luka Doncic.

Starting point is 00:24:04 And as for tonight, Cemetery Larry has some picks up in his partner pack on the Underdog app. Let us take a look if we can, please. Wow, okay. Wow, Cemetery Larry. Luka, higher, 24.5 points. The Knicks coming to town tonight to take on the Lakers inside the arena formerly known as Staples.

Starting point is 00:24:21 Really trying to jinx us. Franz Wagner. Mm-hmm. jinx us. Franz Wagner. Mm-hmm. Lower 29.5 points. Magic take on the Bulls tonight. Draymond Green, higher 5.5 assists. Warriors are at the nets. And the Giddler, Josh Giddey, higher 29.5 points, rebounds and assists.

Starting point is 00:24:41 This pack has been boosted. You can win 6.26 times your bread. Mm. So, for reference sake, Lucas averaged 30, 10, and 9 in 11 games against the Knicks in his career, Shaq. You are confident that he will continue that trend against your current... Knicks still your favorite team, or have you jumped ship? Don't do it, Shaq.

Starting point is 00:24:57 What did I say? We need to get it approved. What did I say? We'll talk to the council. I said, you know, tonight's tonight. You're going... If the Lakers win, you are officially switching talk to the council. I said, you know, tonight's the night. You going to, if the Lakers win, you were officially switching over to the bandwagon? My whole crew made G's. Tonight's the night, baby, so roll up on these.

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Starting point is 00:25:23 Tonight's the night, it's Chris Cross. Last night was Chris. Chris Cross, bro. Come on, stop it. Come on, he don't know. He's not light-skinned. There's an interterm one. He's from Albuquerque. He's not from New York.

Starting point is 00:25:35 Steve, a New Yorker throwing through. He is from Albuquerque. Steve's the lead. He's also in transit right now. So if the Lakers smack the Knicks, and I think both of you guys should just come over. Dodgers smack the Yankees in the World Series, just for reference.

Starting point is 00:25:44 Yes. We've been dominating New York for a while. Everybody's switching teams. Them teams looking slim. Why can't we switch up? Everybody go from hard to soft. We gonna go, motherfucker, change teams from New York to L.A., goddamn it. Fuck it. Why not?

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Starting point is 00:27:18 another gentleman that loves to rep Tough Crowd, Giannis Antetokounmpo. Oh. So let's give him a yeah. You got it. OK. Who you thought I was going to say? tough crowd, Giannis and Ndokumpo. Oh. So let's give him a yeah. You got it. Okay. You thought I was going to say it. Oh, I don't know.

Starting point is 00:27:30 All right. Just making sure. All right. So the Bucks blew out a depleted Mavs squad by 30 last night, but Giannis reached a major career milestone. So let's take a look at a few of the highlights if we can, please. So Giannis was his usual dominant self, dropping 32 points to go along with 15 boards in just 25 minutes of work.

Starting point is 00:27:50 He was 13 for 20 from the field and nailed all six of his free throw attempts. Kenya, I know you appreciate this. Giannis did not attempt one three-pointer in the game. No threes. Got it the old-fashioned way. The Greek freak surpassed a 20,000-point career milestone. At just 30 years old, Giannis is one of the fastest players toed a 20,000 point career milestone. At just 30 years old, Giannis

Starting point is 00:28:05 is one of the fastest players to ever reach 20,000 points. Only LeBron, KD, Kobe, Wilt, and Jordan reached that milestone at a younger age. Dame Lillard dropped 34 points in 27 minutes, shooting a very efficient 11 for 15 on the night. When Giannis got back to the bench

Starting point is 00:28:22 after reaching the 20,000 point milestone, Dame reportedly said, welcome to the club. Giannis is the to the bench after reaching the 20,000 point milestone Dame reportedly said welcome to the club Giannis just a seventh player in NBA history born outside the United States to reach 20,000 points let's enjoy these 30 pieces smacking them looking bad for the Mavs not for the Lakers but for the Mavs so after the game Doc Rivers and Giannis joked about him trying to watch his tribute video while Doc was trying to draw up a play. We were laughing because once he did do it, we were trying to draw up a play, but we couldn't get his attention because he was watching his own video.

Starting point is 00:28:56 Coach Doc did not let me watch it, man. He kept saying, Giannis, Giannis, focus on the play. I'm like, Coach, you don't get a lot of 20,000 points moment in your career, so I've watched 1,000 plays. Let me watch this one video. So I didn't say that, but I thought about it. Did not say it, but he thought about it. So there seem to be some good vibes around the Bucs right now. But as Yannis reaches this milestone, Mr. B, we will start with you.

Starting point is 00:29:24 Is the Greek freak's greatness being taken for granted? Yeah. I think he's in a conversation with LeBron James and Steph just when he's done. Two-time MVP, NBA champion. He changed the narrative of what they said he couldn't do and what he has proven. But I think also because he plays in Milwaukee, no small market, so a lot of his triple-doubles, a lot of his games don't get a lot of highlights

Starting point is 00:29:52 because of where he plays. But from the work ethic to everything he's put in consistently, I mean, every year he could be MVP because he plays both ends. And his defense doesn't get talked about a lot. But on that end, he's killing it too. So I think that's what it is. Giannis averaging 31, 12 rebounds, 6 assists this season, shooting 60.5% from the field. Like you mentioned, plays both sides of the court.

Starting point is 00:30:20 Let's move over to this side, cemetery. Larry, I see twiddling your thumbs, as they say. Is Giannis' greatness underappreciated? A hundred percent. I mean, you look production-wise. How could you say he's not number two? Behind somebody who's just putting up a bunch of points. Right? You talking about playing both sides of the ball,

Starting point is 00:30:43 known for that. You gotta go watch what you're doing around the rim, because it's out of here if you fuck around when I'm down there. And then I'm guarding the best bigs, the best small forwards, power forwards, and if I switch on to a point, he knows it's not easy to get by me. So I see it exactly what B's saying, underappreciated. He's greatly underappreciated. So Yana's currently third, I believe, in MVP odds behind SGA. Yeah, I mean 31, 12, and 6.

Starting point is 00:31:15 I want to say 100 to 1 right now on the odds. What is he shooting from the field? 60.5%. All right, that's just... You know what I'm saying? Like what I was talking about with SGA, you going up against Joker, he got three tier levels, right? And then you got another guy who got two and a half.

Starting point is 00:31:36 You got one and a half and a half, right? So it's like you got to break... Like how's Giannis not next? How's it not just them two? Like it always is. Or him, him, and Joel Joel cuz there's levels to it And when James was I mean James and Russ was involved in those talks Mm-hmm Katie wanted his his his was a lot higher too. I mean when you talk about putting it all together, but If he was in a different market be different no, different? No, I don't think it's market. I just think it's bias.

Starting point is 00:32:06 Preference. Everybody has a preference on who we're supposed to be praising and who we're not. Who's the new guy. Yeah. And then if you don't praise the right guy, you're a hater. Gotcha. But if you praise the right guy, you're a glazer. So that's just a...

Starting point is 00:32:19 So it does it. The duality of life. Yeah. Depends on what you want to be. Exactly. Make a choice. What you want to be. Exactly. Make a choice. What you want to be today.

Starting point is 00:32:27 Make a choice. All right. Thin line between glazing and hating. Let's move over to Kenyon. Kenyon, look at what Jan's doing. I know you're a fan of him not shooting threes, only averaging less than one three-point attempt per game, not shooting a good number from behind the arc.

Starting point is 00:32:40 But Midy's looking good. Off to get into the cup, dude. What the fuck about that three-point line, man? Yeah, it is. Like everybody else do. Like, he's getting it done the old-fashioned way. Yeah, it's the... He falls into the LeBron category in Cleveland,

Starting point is 00:33:01 like, every year, right? If he wanted to, you could like just, because he was the best player in the NBA for a long time, did the most for his team, was the most effective with his team, needed every year when he was in Cleveland. Same thing with Giannis. He's going to always be in the conversation.

Starting point is 00:33:17 If you want to give it to him, you can, like every year at MVP. So yeah, he's very underappreciated in this day of the three ball, right? It doesn't deviate. He's added it to his game, but he doesn't rely on it like a lot of people. They worked at it, and then it's the first thing that they go to is that now Yeah, and his

Starting point is 00:33:51 Intensity and tenacity the way he plays is unmatched So yeah, if you just go by pure dominance you're in you're out he has been that so yeah, I think it's very underappreciated Good. Do you agree with the couch that? John's greatness underappreciated at this point. Oh, no for sure. I mean the last seven years It's I mean he's flirting with 30 every year 30 and 12 30 and 11. So Just like Kenya said you can you can literally give it give him the MVP every year and no one's gonna actually challenge it You know, but you know Yoko's over there having you know Give him the MVP every year and no one's going to actually challenge it. You know, but, you know, Yoki's over there having, you know, phenomenal year. You know, Embiid, you know, last year, that was the only reason Giannis didn't win it. But, you know, you're talking about a guy that is doing what he's doing and he's still so raw, right? He hasn't really perfected his game yet

Starting point is 00:34:45 where he's going to take that next tier. So when he starts slowing down a little bit and starts like really, you know, becoming a master at his game, Jesus Christ, you know what I mean? So we might be looking at him at 40 years old and we're sitting there like, well, how's he still doing this?

Starting point is 00:35:01 How's he still averaging 20 and 14? You know, that's going to be, you know, Giannis. When it's all said and done, he's going to be arguing about if you remove team awards, you're going to argue if he is the best power forward ever. When it comes to just pure the person themselves not hanging on I had this great team. I'm just hanging on my accolades alone. You're going to argue if he's the best power

Starting point is 00:35:35 for it ever. Quick before I get to you, Shai, Giannis finished top four in MVP voting the last six seasons. That includes his back-to-back MVP wins 2019-2020. On pace, he's averaged over 30 in 11. If he continues that trend this year, last three seasons, then the season prior to that, 29.9 in 11.6.

Starting point is 00:35:55 That's 30. We give him the bump. Thank you, gentlemen. That's 30. I saw you with your finger raised. Have we ever seen a big man do what we expected him to do past their peak? Like the peak David Robinson, peak Hakeem, peak Shaq, peak KG. After that peak, have we ever seen anybody take it to like how Bron, like how that next

Starting point is 00:36:23 level after the peak, it is usually a decline, right? Like Amari, certain guys hit that peak, and it's like, shoot. It was built on athleticism and certain shit, right? So the skill to add to it. He's just going to start playing. He's just going to play at half court now. That's what I was just, that's my question to y'all is, what would it do to his game to slow his game down?

Starting point is 00:36:47 It's going to come. If that drop-off from where he is now that's slowing his game down takes him to 22 and 9. Dang, it's going to still be more than that. When he starts playing in the half court. Yeah, it's going to be easier. At what age is that to come? Is he 31 now? 30 now? He's 30 now? So what age is dead. Oh, she's 31 now. Don't even 30 now 30 now. She's about 35

Starting point is 00:37:09 When he has to start posting up has another guy up and under and shit, that's another five made a ways Blake Griffin hit it at what what a yeah, that's just Billy Mar hit it at what a Work at work at the reason different them then it's car Malone Probably Duncan. Yeah, right and yeah, listen Shit this boy doing man without And see Timmy didn't have to rely on fundamentals when he got older he was already using the bank shot He was already facing up and doing that shit

Starting point is 00:37:44 So you couldn't really tell if he was declining up until his athleticism. He couldn't really block shots and shit. Yeah, when you're forced to slow down, then you got to start thinking again. Now let me really be dominant on this block, right? Does he have that IQ right now? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where have we seen it? Nobody made him.

Starting point is 00:38:08 That's what I'm saying. If we haven't challenged him to see where his IQ is, post-block, double team, play out the double team, we pre-rotate and how you going to make this play. Because he ain't been coached to do it, and nobody made him do it yet. And the game doesn't have to force him to do it. So even in transition,

Starting point is 00:38:25 if we set up a transition defense to slow him down, where all his transition points don't exist. They tried it. They didn't try it. It's just certain people you just can't match. Because they can't match up. You can't match up and you can't

Starting point is 00:38:42 match that. His intensity and energy for the... No. No, I'm telling you. We're talking about transition defense, right? It is, but... Get back into the paint and we know Giannis is coming. This is staying, though, but...

Starting point is 00:38:52 Yes. But you got to remember, the person that's going to stop him is built like this. Yeah. The white Howard. We know that whoever his matchup is cannot. We know to collectively, we all got to run back to the paint and make him throw to AJ Green. We got to make him take it after. You taking shots.

Starting point is 00:39:08 Everybody just running. We run back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Get back. Yeah, yeah. On the wall. That's to build the wall. That's how you have to play.

Starting point is 00:39:13 A lot of them buckets wasn't transition. No. He was working off. He's working. He's still there. That guy ain't there. He's working on his shit. You can tell now.

Starting point is 00:39:22 He's working on his shit in the game. Like, okay, let me work on this shit. I've been this dirt fade one leg. Let me work on this shit I've been working now. He's working on his shit in the game. Like, okay, let me work on this shit. I've been this dirt fade one leg. Let me work on this shit I've been working on. Let me see if it works. Now it's starting to slow down. But until somebody make you do something different... Yeah, don't change shit.

Starting point is 00:39:38 People use the bad shit. Why KJ don't shoot jump shots in high school? Why the fuck would he? Shoot 70% from the field. Why the fuck would he? Shoot 70% from the field. Why the fuck would I do anything else? Until you stop it and make it. Until you make me do something different, I'm not going to do it.

Starting point is 00:39:52 Especially when I'm trying to win a game, I'm going to go with what I know. And he just plays one way. He's trying to win every possession, every game. He don't take possessions off. So until the league matches that, player-wise, each and every, he's going to always stand out. That second jump, that second chance point.

Starting point is 00:40:14 And it's not. It's going to be getting closer to European basketball, any type of guards. So it's not like his game is going to take a dive because the competition is going to be skinnier and weaker. So he's going to be able to play bully basketball moving forward. Where is he at on the list of 20,000 for youngest? He is sixth.

Starting point is 00:40:37 Sixth, and who's in front of him? Yeah. So I will read that list to you right now. Give me one second. For the same age? So fastest players to ever reach 20K is LeBron, KD, Kobe, Wilt, and Jordan. No ages involved, it's just points, right?

Starting point is 00:40:52 Just the fastest. 20,000. 20,000 points. Yeah. Who? But no age. So the fastest to reach 20,000 points, LeBron, KD, Kobe, Wilt, and Jordan reached the milestone at a younger age than Giannis? Yeah, because they had a jump shot. He's going to get 30.

Starting point is 00:41:09 Because they made free throws. Top three. Top three scoring all time. Because they made free throws. He can possibly get 10,000 more. He definitely gets 10,000 more. And let's put it in even more perspective. Shooting 60% of his free throw line. For his career.

Starting point is 00:41:21 For this season's shooting. But just put it in even more perspective, right? The shit we said about Shaq. If Shaq would have made free throws. If Shaq would have shot 70%, 72% for his career from the line, his scoring, he'd be higher on the list. If Giannis was to make free throws consistently and he had made free throws, he would have been there.

Starting point is 00:41:44 So Giannis shooting 70% or 69.4% of his career from the free throw line. This season, though, he's shooting 59.6, career low. Damn, damn. Just imagine, man. He would have been there. How many points does Kareem have? Uh, what was it, what, 38?

Starting point is 00:41:56 38,000. No, he's going to break 38,000. Yeah, I mean, 2K, for sure he's going to... He's getting 30,000 for sure. Yeah, no, for sure. He's gonna he's getting 30,000 Yeah, no, as long as he stays healthy. Yeah, as long as he stays healthy you're talking about Declining that let's say he retires at 37 38 that puts him at least three or four And y'all that's another ten years. I've already looked at the map though Carmelone and Karim Abdul-Jabbar is 38,000 with no threes.

Starting point is 00:42:26 Yeah. Yeah. That's getting buckets. True. A lot of free throws, man. Look at Steph. Look at Steph and KD. All of them, and they behind them at twos.

Starting point is 00:42:38 Even Dirk. Like Dirk and certain guys that reached to, what? I think Dirk got to like 30. Melo, where Melo at? Melo's top 10. 26, 27. He Mello's top 10. 26, 27. He just cracked the top 10. So you looking at guys that's like, man,

Starting point is 00:42:49 you, Mello got at least six more years to add to that that he didn't even get to just add to that. And then you look at AI, he ain't get all them years that he could have chased it. So Mello 10th, I think 28,289 points. The reason Yon's going to get it because his skill set is outside of analytics, right? So he's trekking on the same waters

Starting point is 00:43:13 that Wilt was trekking on, Young Braun, Colb, early Colb, Carl Malone. He had threes that were worth more than twos, but the twos at a higher percentage so if you're giving a guy 20 shots he's not taking 14 threes shooting 40% he's shooting 60% right so that's where Yannis is at right he's not wasting his he's not wasting shot attempts chucking threes at a 36 40 percent you know great he's saying fuck that I, I'm going to get

Starting point is 00:43:46 this, plus an and one. Even if he misses the free throw, it just adds to his what's-her-name. So he's getting threes in theory, just old school threes. He's getting old school and ones. He's getting a bunch of those. So when you're looking at how they got it, they got it doing it a certain way.

Starting point is 00:44:02 So you're telling this era to shoot a bunch of threes. You're actually stopping them from getting this award. I had to do the deep dive into Karl Malone, John Stockton, right? Karl Malone got majority of his points from who? John. John is the NBA what? Assistant.

Starting point is 00:44:19 All right. So they work. They don't go together. They don't go anywhere without each other. They have to, right? And you're like, well, Karl Malone's points was on what type of assist, what type of moves? Was it the fadeaway?

Starting point is 00:44:31 Was it just the pick and pop? Was it just the pick and roll? And then you look at Kareem's. Was it all jump hooks? Was it all iso in the post? Was it offensive rebound putbacks? So you're looking at the totality of Jordan and Kobe, Bron, how you got your points, right?

Starting point is 00:44:48 And then you look at Giannis. How would Giannis get to that level without it not just being easy? Easy buckets. Like you said, the three. My three is an and one. That three comes off a two rebound. Magic, what is he, third on the list? It was third. Way before you got to magic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Magic made me want to go longer. Fuck. He wasn't running with him.

Starting point is 00:45:10 He wasn't running with him like that. That's what I'm saying. Matt Green wasn't like, yeah, it was boom. But most of the non shit, this is different. There's a sword in the cap. He got to play for two years, 19 years. But to 41. So he played like he only had nine, what, eight years with Magic? Easy buckets. Easy buckets, yeah. He was good on his legs.

Starting point is 00:45:32 No, okay, so with Magic, it's like Tim Duncan and Shaq, right? Where Magic is a fast break. If they don't have the fast break, give it to Kareem. And then Kareem is creating his own move. He was the last one down the floor. Yeah, Kareem threw it to 41. It's not like he's... Last nigga down the floor.

Starting point is 00:45:51 Y'all ain't get it? Y'all ain't get it? It's coming to me. I heard him say something and I kind of laughed. He was like, I guess they had a conversation on why you don't think nobody adapted the sky hook? I mean, that's easy.

Starting point is 00:46:06 Nobody motherfucking seven foot with motherfucking seven five wingspan that nobody can motherfucking touch. The only person who can do that is now Wimby. That's it. That's the only person who can adapt what you had. Other than that, nah. Motherfuckers, somebody get into that. You look at Kareem's long time. Somebody get into that. That's probably the hardest part. So you look at Kareem's long career though. Somebody get into it.

Starting point is 00:46:26 Kareem's last six seasons, 80 games, 79 games, 79 games, 78 games, 80 games, 74 games. I'm just like, availability. Availability. That right there. And you're scoring, right? And you're almost whooping Bruce Lee's ass. I try to put in the output, the energy output for the points that you're scoring, which is the degree of difficulty, all that shit that we look at Kobe and them.

Starting point is 00:46:50 It was so difficult, right? But it's like, you didn't have to do that. Y'all didn't have to do all that shit y'all was doing. It looked dope. That's why we put them where we put them, because that shit looked nice. But KD showed you you ain't got to do all that to do all that. He's not seven feet. Exactly, he's not seven foot, but he just shows you energy.

Starting point is 00:47:07 You know what I'm saying? The energy is like, I don't got to do all that to get this off. Mello is even more. Mello never had to do all that shit, you know what I'm saying, get you off me, blah, blah, blah. So we asked the chat, is Giannis underrated? As a quick 50. 58% say yes.

Starting point is 00:47:23 So let's talk about the Bucs. Bucs got their fourth straight win Their eighth in the past nine games right now Bucks are season-best 11 games over 500 sitting the fourth spot in the Eastern Conference Started the season two and eight we were ready to put them in a pack. Mr. B. You always believe your loyalty and allegiance more we never went to Give us 2025 We were. Gil, it was 2025. Remember? No, I'm just saying, we was smoking that pack. It was, oh yeah,

Starting point is 00:47:47 we was puffing it up. It was some red wine. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. It didn't really make me hot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We was puffing and huffing. Had to roll it in a grape switcher to feel something.

Starting point is 00:47:55 We just got a headache and we just stopped like, yeah, you know what, man? They got some good Cali shit, man. We're going to go ahead and get off this. This Milwaukee shit. This mid.

Starting point is 00:48:02 This mid shit. This Midwest. With the seeds in it. This mid shit. This Midwest shit. This Midwest shit is poppin'. But Gil, I gotta know, cause it's 2025. You said no more Doc Rivers hate, and then you're all over 2025. You've been very supportive. I have been. Of the Bucs.

Starting point is 00:48:16 Gil, who deserves the most credit for the Bucs turnaround? Mm-mm. Damn the fact that... I'ma just be honest with you. This is just. I ain't been paying you attention, bro. But I'm going to give it to Brandon Jennings

Starting point is 00:48:31 for the little dance. Had little white folks in there dancing with him. And they've been tricking ever since. Me? Yeah, there you go. There you go, Sheila. Ever since then. Ever since then.

Starting point is 00:48:40 They beat. Hey, you know what? Now this became a perfect win for you because Detroit Pistons end up being pretty good. Yeah. Mr. B, you were on two and four. The white gentlemen were on one and three, but every number was covered.

Starting point is 00:48:56 Every number was covered there. So in your opinion, obviously, you know you love the Bucs. Heavy in Milwaukee. I'm going to give the credit to Giannis because he's a leader. So when Giannis wanted things to change, when he called out people who didn't want to be there, and he held everybody to a higher standard, and everybody responded. From the trade deadline, we got Kuzma, Kevin Porter Jr., everybody's coming in. They're bringing different energy.

Starting point is 00:49:20 So I'm putting on the leader, Giannis, Because he stepped up and said something and changed the game. Good. Had to make the tough decision to trade Chris Middleton. Obviously he was coming from bilateral ankle surgery, figuring out. But that's what a leader, that's what the best player is supposed to do in the league. What he did. Call out everybody. If you want to be here, get out.

Starting point is 00:49:40 Giannis even called out the equipment manager in that round as well. Everybody was not, the equipment was still a little that rain is where everybody was not yeah equipment was No socks mismatched socks So do we think the Bucks have a chance though In this thing they always got a chance playoffs. I'm curious to see what happens when Bobby come back Portis he's still out for 25 games. I mean, I know he has experience, so he'll be all right, but... He comes back right before the playoffs, right?

Starting point is 00:50:09 Like, two or three games before the playoffs start. He's gonna help, so... Do y'all think he deserved that 25-game suspension? Tramadol, Toradol sound the same. Did y'all talk about it? Did we talk about it? We didn't really hit it, you know, out of respect. Out of respect? What the fuck you mean, out of respect? No, we just didn't have time in the rundown, Kenyon, as of respect. Out of respect? What the fuck you mean, out of respect?

Starting point is 00:50:25 Nah, we just didn't have time in the rundowns, Kenyon, as you know. Oh, wait, wait. Don't gang-bag on me. Because it happened during All-Star weekend, so we was gone. But, yeah, but, okay, but... Weekend and then another week off. It was in the rundown, but then we have more important things to talk about. He's sweating. He's sweating. Out of respect? The motherfucker got 45 games.

Starting point is 00:50:44 What the fuck are you talking about out of respect for? But for tramadol... He's sweating. He's sweating. He's sweating. He's sweating. He's sweating. He's sweating. He's sweating. He's sweating. He's sweating. He's sweating. He's sweating. He's sweating.

Starting point is 00:50:52 He's sweating. He's sweating. He's sweating. He's sweating. He's sweating. He's sweating. He's sweating. He's sweating.

Starting point is 00:51:00 He's sweating. He's sweating. He's sweating. He's sweating. He's sweating. He's sweating. He's sweating. He's sweating. He's sweating. No, he didn't know the fuck he didn't toward all cause I was a shot doctor toward all they give you a fucking shot in Your ass so therefore this is what I'm saying. I'll call cap. Yeah, you call cap on the fuck. Yeah. Yes If football they call the shit the T-train. Uh-huh. Line up. Line up.

Starting point is 00:51:26 And they cheat out. One after another. Nah, fuck that. Some of us don't like things in our cheek. Well, in order to play, sometimes I had to take Toradol. You had Toradol? I took Toradol shots in order to play. So you're calling Cap on the story.

Starting point is 00:51:40 He said he got a pill from your assistant. If somebody gave him a Toradol pill, they trying to kill it. What the fuck is a Toradol pill? It's too strong. Whatever it is, if they did, the shit going to eat his fucking stomach lining up. It's too strong. OK, who is getting a pill from the assistant of Toradol?

Starting point is 00:51:56 My assistant? Where did my assistant get a pill from? Well, the assistant had tramadol, I think, for a surgery or whatever. I have a full medical staff at my disposal. Right here. A doc. You can get anything under the sun.

Starting point is 00:52:10 All you got to do is pick the phone up. You can get anything under the sun from your fucking trainer. Nope. If not, even if you're a trainer, you can just go to the gym, get this shit yourself. You can go in your locker room, open that motherfucking cabinet. Or I get my assistant to do it. Yeah. That's what happens, right?

Starting point is 00:52:30 Did you go to Mexico like I told you to? I had to get my assistant to do it. I got to have my attention. Before they close the door. Before this man closes the door. I need you to run in there. I need you to go to Tijuana now. They don't pick this up into what's in their hand.

Starting point is 00:52:47 I think the point is that, as the doctors were saying, tramadol is much weaker than Toradol. They don't even prescribe it that much anymore. So they might as well give you Vioxx or Celebrex. Ooh, Celebrex used to hit. Whatever the normal. He was hurt? Whatever the normal goddamn.

Starting point is 00:53:00 Well, take four leave, motherfucker. Listen, trust me. From somebody who done took took all it little dog is This never I've missed when I heard the shit. I'm like No, Bobby Even right now I called I called one of the doctors at the pro a call this in for me You're not ready not name that doctor. Do not name that doctor I'm sure I'm sure Bobby just trying to play 20 something plus years, man, like everybody

Starting point is 00:53:28 else. We get it. He just got caught up. He just got caught up. He's trying to follow the rules, man. He's trying to figure out which one to take. He's trying to figure out which one to take. This ain't it.

Starting point is 00:53:36 He knew it. Put the right one on the internet so we can take the right one. Which one is it? Listen, he was going to take it and think he was going to get it and it wasn't going to pop. That's all that is. He thought he was going to take that shit and go out. He got the message everybody else got. Man, I'm supposed to be taking the right shit.

Starting point is 00:53:56 You gave me the wrong shit. No, but my thing is, listen, he took that shit and didn't think his name was going to come up. Piss test. You know what I'm saying? That's all that shit is. 100%. And they just ain't piss testing you now. They taking blood and shit now.

Starting point is 00:54:07 Blood, yeah. And the saliva. Marijuana? No. No. Brother. That's what I'm saying. So why you suspended 25 games?

Starting point is 00:54:15 No. Because on the band stuff. Let's just say if you use it. What I'm saying is if you use what he was using. You done felt up my ass. You know what I'm saying? Whoa. If he. Whoa. He put over there for a second.

Starting point is 00:54:28 He just jabbed my ass. Hold on, I thought he knew it. He tried to fuck me on camera. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. He jabbed his ass. If you took it, you'd be good again. On camera. Don't do it on camera.

Starting point is 00:54:44 If you took where he was taking it, your knee wouldn't be hurting no more. Don't do it on camera. If I took Trill off? If you took where he was taking, your knee wouldn't be hurting no more like that. How about that? Damn. Yeah. Hey, listen. Have him good on time. He just didn't think he was going to get called. He thought he was going to take that shit, go on an all-star break, come back feeling

Starting point is 00:54:57 good. Feeling good. The way everybody else feels. And then the goddamn name came up. Fuck, bro. Trust me. Soon as first day of practice, Bobby. What'd I do? Oh, shit. What'd I do? What'd I do?

Starting point is 00:55:07 What'd I do? See what I do? Guaranteed. He start sweating right away. He's like, damn. You can't. Once that name come up, you can't leave the facility. Listen. You got to have it with you. You got to be prepared. Every day you got to be prepared. What, what it going to happen? You just got to have it in your locker. That's the only thing. What? The mix, the drink. That ain't gonna help. They taking blood. They taking our blood now.

Starting point is 00:55:30 You got to find me. I'm gonna hide, I'm hiding. His blood is, his blood is. You got to find me. I ain't seen Chuck. There you go. But at the same time, but still though, but still they doing either one.

Starting point is 00:55:40 So two is pissing two bloods? Whatever it is, they coming during the summer, blood drawing, they doing it all now. They're going too far. They're going too far with the blood. So he didn't think his name was going to pop. You're not cloning me. That's all that shit is. You ain't cloning me.

Starting point is 00:55:54 And them the dudes, so you got to wait. So the game is, you got to wait until they test you. Then go do it. Yeah. Fool. I don't know. Yes. I don't know. Yes. You don't know?

Starting point is 00:56:07 I've been on a team where... They're back-to-back on you. Yeah. You must have been in the program. But they don't get caught, though. They don't get caught, though. They didn't care. Oh, they don't? Yeah, I'm talking about them.

Starting point is 00:56:16 They in the program. Oh, okay. They don't volunteer. They can test you seven days a week. So basically all they did was just take a whole bunch of edibles and stuff and then say, on test day, I'm an addict. Yep. Whatever they tie it, whatever they test is, as long as they test under that, they good. That is the move. Sorry, I'm guilty. So we asked the chat who deserves credit for the Bucks turnaround. 10% say Doc Rivers. 40% say Mr. B.

Starting point is 00:56:46 But 50% say Giannis. You and Giannis if it was only just two. You and Giannis, responsible for the bat. You don't even play. But Mr. B. They're dangerous, man. Healthy. Bucks and six. If they're healthy, they're scary. I'm going to tell you.

Starting point is 00:57:01 And the way it's lined up. With them two killers they got. They play Pacers. And then gonna take right in the way of life with the way it's lined up with them to write as they got they Play Pacers and then from there. They got the cash Will the best corners in a game healthy is for like we like all the states I'll go to state is right now in the West how they just we just slide just chill right, well, let's keep this thing moving. Who's out there? It's a great corner. So yesterday on ESPN... At the same time. Yesterday on ESPN, Kendrick Perkins dropped his list

Starting point is 00:57:30 of the top five point guards in the NBA. Let's take a look at Perk's list. He had an SGA first, Jalen Brunson second, Steph third. Hell no. Luka Doncic fourth, Kay Cunningham fifth. These are active point guards. I know top five lists are... Go ahead.

Starting point is 00:57:47 Speak your mind, Kay. This is Gills representative. Are you a free day? Okay. I'll tuck my chain in. So how many former athletes we got on this couch? Former NBA players? Okay, I like that you changed the criteria

Starting point is 00:57:57 because it was going to be... Well, we got... Former athletes was six. Now former NBA players... We got five NBA... Five former NBA... So you couldn't ask... So you couldn't fucking ask one of us to come up with our top five.

Starting point is 00:58:07 We got to use another motherfucker. Well, that is the catalyst. What's happening? Funny you should ask, Kenyon. Funny you should ask. Well, just ask us. We ain't got to go. That's the dot, dot, dot.

Starting point is 00:58:16 You could have texted us and listened. They're the ops, the ops. Steve, you could have texted us and been like, I need your top five point guards tomorrow. Get them ops over there. Yeah, but it's a little bit more interesting if you have someone else's list to disagree with. No, I know it don't. Because all our shit going to be,

Starting point is 00:58:30 listen, you don't think we disagree enough on this fucking couch? Well, at least you'll agree to disagree on this. Well, Kenyon, one thing we all can agree on. One thing we all can agree on, you make delicious ribs. Steve needs some music. I would say that. I had to.

Starting point is 00:58:43 Steve needs some music. I would say that. I had to. Steve needs some music. Everybody compliment Kenyon Cribs. Steve needs some music. Kenyon brought ribs to the set today. I had not one but two. Three would have put me to sleep. So I know top five lists are a matter of personal preference. Dot, dot, dot.

Starting point is 00:59:02 I think we did this earlier in the season, but it's time to update it. So we're going to go around the couch. I want your top five. This was just a frame of reference. Kendra Perkins, former NBA champion, championship experience, over at ESPN. So you say we did it earlier in the season? We've talked point-and-point. So why couldn't we reference our list? We did all the time.

Starting point is 00:59:15 We did all the time, but are we updating our list now that we've got a larger sample size? We did all the time? We did all the time. But I think that was last year. Oh, so we don't know what the fuck we did. 300-something shows came. We get confused. I dig it. Two and a half hours every day. I don't remember it.

Starting point is 00:59:30 So if we did all the time this year, last year, I don't fucking know. We ain't did this year's, though. But let's go around. Give me your top five list. If anybody has their list ready to go, I see you guys working your phones right now, strategizing. I'll go. I got shade number one okay I think the

Starting point is 00:59:51 season he only scored under 20 once I believe so you know how he's playing obviously that's that's easy number two I got Cade. Cade Cunningham. Jumping to two on the field. I think he has about, what, 20-plus double-doubles, about 11, 12 triple-doubles this season, you know, carrying a young Detroit team. Number three, I got that man they called The Beard. I got Harden. James Harden.

Starting point is 01:00:24 When Kawhi went out, Paul George was gone, Russ was gone, everybody thought the Clippers was gonna be some bullshit. And what he's done in the 30-something games, Kawhi wasn't there and still Kawhi trying to come back. He's held that team, you know, on his shoulders, even making Powell look like an all-star. I mean, held that team on his shoulders, even making Powell look like an all-star. Obviously, Powell did his thing too.

Starting point is 01:00:49 He did as well. We're going to talk James Harden later in the show too. He had a very, very successful night. James with his 22, 8 and 4. I got him at 3. 4, I'm going to go Brunson. You know, just as, you know, just a smaller player who's just been holding New Yorker on his back, you know, with the success last year, the big trade, players being injured, right? He's been that steady guy for them averaging about, what, 24, 25, fixing three, seven, and three. I think for all the elements that New York has been going through, he's been holding it down. Five, I have Dame.

Starting point is 01:01:42 Dame Lillard is your fifth? You know, for a guy who's actually the second option on his team, averaging, what, 24, 25, 7, and 4, you know, those are Derrick Rose MVP years. And he's doing that as a second option. So, you know, at this moment right now, you know, that's my top five. You know, Lucas McG at this moment right now, you know, that's my top five, you know, you know Lucas my guy and all of them, you know, I Gotta go with the people who played, you know, they got the games

Starting point is 01:02:12 So talk speaking of getting the games in and don't want to disagree with your list or slander anybody in your list Obviously, we're trying not to be toxic here, but you did not have Steph Curry on your list Was there a reason that Steph did not make your top five based on how he's performing this season? I mean he's playing without slandering any of the other people? No, I mean he's playing, you know, he's playing very well. You know, he's averaging what, about 24, 5 and 3. Um... I don't think he's doing as much as Brunson right now.

Starting point is 01:02:40 Um... I mean, to be honest, that, that... He could have been four, could have been five, but I just think the way Brunson's, the way his team has been injured, some of his success and where his team is, got his team three with all the injuries. He deserves that spot, and with Dane playing the way Dane's playing, and, you know, he is the second option, you know, with those numbers. So let's move over to Kenyon.

Starting point is 01:03:13 Kenyon, I know you watch a lot of jazz games, previously watched a lot of soccer games. But as a result, see a lot of NBA basketball. Lot of losing. Hey. Top five active point guards. Why that couldn't be water? I had the beam. No.

Starting point is 01:03:34 Oh, yeah, it's not water, Gil. It's not water. Straight Red Bull. My bad. Top five active point guards in your estimation. I'm going with the same. Shay, Cade... Um, Trae Young.

Starting point is 01:03:53 Okay. Shout out Rayford Young III. Uh... Fourth... What place the Clippers in? Clippers are currently, I believe... no, they fell, they slipped. Eighth. They're eighth right now. We're not jumped to eighth with the wind over the Detroit Pistons.

Starting point is 01:04:16 I need two more from you. I know. I'm just. I feel more like those two delicious ribs that you made that I had earlier. I need two more from I know I'm just Feel more like those two delicious ribs that you know, I know how to count Josiah Never question that you didn't fucking rush Gail so don't fucking rush me. Don't rush it any all right Give me the shovel. Ken, you're not Fugazi, I just want to point that out. I'm four. Yo, stop it, man.

Starting point is 01:04:51 You're not Fugazi. Four, I'm... Fuck. Cause I'm... Do I go with my... My... Basket basketball-ness or do I go with the current, the way the game is played, right? Because I'm, I have a hard time pointing guard, shooting the ball 27, 28 times a night or

Starting point is 01:05:19 just period. Yeah. Unless you really got it going. Like, I have a hard time with that. Just watching it consistently. Like, there are some possessions where nobody else fucking touches the ball because you didn't brought that bitch up and ran six pick and rolls

Starting point is 01:05:34 and nobody else done touched it. I have a hard time with that. But Jalen Brunson is effective in this approach, the way he gets it done. Tyrese Max is the same way. I like what Tyrese Halliburton brings to the table, pass first guy. Halliburton having a historic season right now,

Starting point is 01:05:54 not getting a lot of attention for it, but. Fuck, I'm going to go with Steph. If we're going to go with somebody shooting and scoring it and doing what they, I'm going to go with Steph. If we're going to go with somebody shooting and scoring and doing what they... I'm going to go with Steph at four. And I'm going to give the younger generation some love since I like guys that pass the ball first. Since you said I watch a lot of jazz games,

Starting point is 01:06:17 Isaiah Collier is... He's going to be one of them. USC? USC. He's going to be one of them. I always think it's higher maybe having her like seven Yeah, yeah, he only missed it once late last for the only missed it once the last few games like but now he is Once he learned he out there moving like Jake he it was young James like he fast as shit, man

Starting point is 01:06:41 Okay, like you got to keep up like this one of them Like if you ain't laying that bitch up Any competitive but he'll pass first guy man, and he's learning the game on the fly like I like watching him But yeah, give me the young guy It's just my I could have put any other these guys that's really really getting it done on the list But we don't know I don't know the young young guy Let's move over to cemetery Larry Top five active point guards and I'm gonna go with Steph number one. Okay, I'm gonna go with Luca number two a good choice and go with shade number three. Hmm

Starting point is 01:07:26 I'm gonna go with Trey Young number four. And, um... Cade Cunningham number five. Cade. Cade, actually, I believe the unanimous selection so far in all these lists. See how dead that is? because I didn't say why. Yeah, that's the real shit.

Starting point is 01:07:51 I wanted to say that so bad. What happened? What's going on? That's your list. You were supposed to say why. You were saying why. You were just supposed to give your top five. And then we move on.

Starting point is 01:08:03 And then we move on. I remember you saying that. I knew that move on. I remember you said that. I knew that was coming. I knew that was coming. No, that's not even a saying. We said it for a good two, three, four seconds. Man. I said, I just, that's your name.

Starting point is 01:08:13 I'm Mike Kool. I didn't throw anybody under the bus. I was just saying positives of my time. Yeah, I was just getting the reason why I was going with the young guys. The guys I have on my top five. Everybody else knows, right? Just say your top five and not Ryan. No, you did give us, you did.

Starting point is 01:08:23 Top three. You did give us, you gave you gave us reasons, but yeah, just two reasons why didn't so you could give reasons negative It's out of the door Now we own We didn't ask him to do it like you said we didn't ask but he felt compelled because In my fifth spot all the other niggas I could pick. Yeah, I'm gonna pick this I'm gonna take a chance with his young but I gotta tell y'all why yeah explain to y'all I got to because they ain't watching Yeah, you don't know why I'm picking. I got got my reason, and maybe you go watch it, you'll see it too.

Starting point is 01:09:07 You be like, hey man, Kenyon was right. That young killer got good. Let's shift over to Swaggy P bringing in championship experience. I want to hear your top five actor point guard list with championship experience. I'm going to go Garland. Okay, Darius Garland. Faye. SGA.

Starting point is 01:09:23 Hero. Point guard? Garland. Okay, Darius Garland. Shea. SGA. Hero. Point guard? Yeah, he played point, he played point, he played point. LaMelo. LaMelo. And Fox. De'Aaron Fox. That's four?

Starting point is 01:09:41 That's five. I said Melo, Hero, Garland. Garland. Fox, and Shay. I said Shay. Yeah, I said Shay. SGA. I'm going to go Steph, SGA, Cade, Dame Lillard. This nigga right here.

Starting point is 01:10:06 Homer. Homer. Dude! What was the last one? A fine pick, Brandon. A fine pick. Yeah, I like James Harden, too. Man, 22-8-6, 28 double-doubles.

Starting point is 01:10:28 Yeah, I like it. James, Steph, Shay, what was you saying? Cade and Dane Lillard. Top five point guards in the league right now? It's this season, right? This season, not overall. It's this season. Based on their body of work.

Starting point is 01:10:43 This season. And nobody's allowed to say nothing about your five. Dot, dot, dot. Nobody's going to say nothing about your five. High five to your five. This season. High five to your five, playboy. I'm not giving no reason.

Starting point is 01:10:56 It's my five. It's your five, right? Cemetery Larry and Mr. B high-fiving each other across the couch. Uh-huh. At the distance. All right, good list. Don't explain your five, homie. So, Cemetery Larry, I just want to point out you're the only person that has our Luca and Savior, Luca Dantric, on the distance. All right, good list. Don't explain your five, homie. So, Cemetery Larry, I just want to point out

Starting point is 01:11:06 you're the only person that has our Luka and savior, Luka Doncic, on the list. Really? But that is part of it. Did y'all forget he was a point guard? No. Nah, I heard he was a point guard. Oh.

Starting point is 01:11:18 Yeah, 20 this year, right? No. I thought it was just this season. I mean, if we're talking about- Listen, that's your five. Oh. He does have four straight games when he's, like, 30. I'm with it.

Starting point is 01:11:27 Performing pretty well. Performing pretty well. I like what Trey did. I mean, the list was so, like, tough, I was like, I got to find reasons not to put people in. I was like, 26 games, cool. 29 games, cool. Oh, you had a game minimum, okay.

Starting point is 01:11:38 Yeah, you had a game minimum. All right. Well, speaking of... You said it was so good that you had to figure out... Yeah, when I broke down everyone's, like, production. You had to figure out a reason. Not like you had to pick something. No, I said, like, so if the season ended right now

Starting point is 01:11:56 and they had a top five, there's a criteria. So if these games are 61 games and a guy only has 20 games, he wouldn't be part of the criteria. Got to take somebody out, right? Yeah, so I just took him out of the criteria. Process of elimination, man, with your preferences. That's why we have to have reasons. That's why we have to have reasons.

Starting point is 01:12:12 Because the preference has to eliminate the other dudes. Like, yeah, you can't be up here no more, man. I tried to keep you in this list. Yeah, because we all have whatever it is. Like, this goes back to life in itself. Like, as your own entity, you're entitled to your own preferences. Like, you don't have to succumb or agree with what the fucking next person is doing. As long as it floats your boat and blow your hair back, that's all that fucking matter, man.

Starting point is 01:12:43 Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, people are... Never heard that before, but... You heard it here. Blow your hair back. Brother Niles. He shows his 75 every day. Damn, he's 75. The visual just...

Starting point is 01:13:02 But it makes sense when you think about it. Brother Niles. Yeah, but so people can, like, you can like who you like, man, and you can say why or not say why, and that's your fucking preference. By any means necessary. And if people don't agree with it, oh, well. And to worry about, like, to put, like, real-life energy into, like, disliking, like, Rashad's list, to worry about like to put like real live energy into

Starting point is 01:13:29 Like disliking like with shots list like I fucked it. You're listening I'm gonna tell you why you'll this suck like like cuz my list because my list better I like my of course you like your list better cuz you made it admitted that right this better Like mo argue down like no you I'm of course I think my list is better here cuz I made it like I don't have to. Like, no, of course I think my list is better than yours because I made it. Like, I don't have to try to make him like mine. Brother fair, brother knowledge. Nick. Let's get this shit going.

Starting point is 01:13:53 If you say another motherfucking preference or something, you can do your list and I do mine. We know that, motherfucker. What you gonna do about it? I ain't gonna do nothing to you, brother. What you gonna do about it? Can you technically put your kids in the floor? Call the police.

Starting point is 01:14:08 That's what I'm gonna do. Call the police. He's my best friend. I'm gonna wake my deceased. As soon as I wake back up, Did you get him? Did you get him? No. No. Whatever happened? No, we did not. He's on the way still.

Starting point is 01:14:24 Whatever happened? He's we did not. He's on the way still. Whatever happened? You need to know. He's still on the way. Y'all get him. No, we didn't. He's still on the loose. He's still on the loose. Here's his address.

Starting point is 01:14:32 We're going to need a little bit more than just the vote. I know where he's going to be at Tuesday and Thursday. We're going to need the FBI in there for him. And I'm pressing everything. They're like, hey, you're going to give him the joint like the child support people. Damn. You wrong. They outside waiting on you. Yeah, that's him.

Starting point is 01:14:49 Off of it. Yeah, that's him. Right there. Looking like a damn snitch. Today's podcast is sponsored by SeatGeek. Everyone can use our code GIL10. Get 10% off your SeatGeek order whether you're a new customer or not, sports, concerts, festivals, you name it.

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Starting point is 01:15:59 When you want to sit there and fuck with me fuck gotta one okay, I got Every possession he had 19 assists Number one, boy, that's how you get two sinners. What? He initiates the offense, so he counts. Absolutely, every possession. He had 19 assists. So one of Michael Jordan's biggest supporters, also known as a glazer in the sports media world, is Stephen A. Smith, constantly caped for Jordan over LeBron in GOAT debates. However, something interesting happened

Starting point is 01:16:38 when LeBron surpassed a 50,000 career points threshold. So let's take a look. I'll even go a step further. Knowing how I feel about Jordan, and I think anybody that knows basketball agrees with me, I actually think it's time to not even have the debate anymore because that's how great LeBron James has been for as long as he has been that great.

Starting point is 01:17:01 I can stand down and acknowledge that because this is absolutely phenomenal. But it's not the 50,000 points. It's not even the way he's looked last night. It's not even the way he's looked this month. It's the fact that I'm watching this brother with Anthony Davis, without Anthony Davis, with Luka, without Luka. I mean, this dude right here. And I'm looking at a guy at 40 years of age who's in better shape than 98 of the league if not more at age 40 in the 22nd season lebron james especially on a morning like this deserves all the props in the world uh welcome to the right side of history stephen a smith

Starting point is 01:17:40 so before i ask the question do you know what stephen A. Smith hasn't done in the last 133 days? What? Come on, Gil's Arena, like you said he would. But, Gil, question for you. What's your reaction to Stephen A. Smith flip-flopping on the GOAT debate? What do you mean flip-flopping? He's giving LeBron love now. No, that's not considered a flip-flop.

Starting point is 01:18:00 That's called still keeping the possibility of change open. Like, sometimes people just close the doors, and they're not accepting, you know, like in a club. We're not accepting nobody else, right? So the fact that the door's still open for other people to actually come in, you know, you know, I go to First Take one day, baby. You know what I mean? You get up here on First Take. You know, you go to first take one day, baby. You know what I mean? You know, you start throwing shit out there, motherfuckers be like, okay, I didn't really

Starting point is 01:18:34 think of it like that. I did that. I did that. You know, all your Braun fans out there, you just took one day. Just took one day. Turn them into a blazer. But it's time for change, though. Like, for the debate and things like that.

Starting point is 01:18:48 You can't even debate anymore, really. That's what I feel like. But just to, like, these players today, man, they're doing things that are unbelievable. Like, come on. I don't know, man. 50,000 points is crazy. I feel like Steph should be in that conversation too though. Too little.

Starting point is 01:19:05 He changed the game. He's too little. I think a one-on-one at some point too. He changed the game though. I think Steph couldn't guard none of them guys, that's why. I put Kobe next to Steph, or Jordan next to Steph, or Brian next to Steph. Can they guard him? I think so.

Starting point is 01:19:23 So let's move over to this side of the couch. Can they guard him? I think so. Mm. So, let's move over to this side of the couch. I see wardrobe change. I do put them up there. You all right? You good? Me? Damn, what did I do? Why am I getting hit?

Starting point is 01:19:43 You all right? Yeah, we good. You good? Mm-hmm. All right, what did I do? Why am I getting hit? You all right? Yeah, we good. You good? Mm-hmm. All right, what's up? You ever had a three-peat before? On the basketball court or just in life?

Starting point is 01:19:56 Just your goat. Oh. No, he never. Huh? He never. A powerful two-peat, though. Two-peat. Powerful two-peat.

Starting point is 01:20:04 Two-peat. Two-peat. It's a difficult thing to do. Three-one. One of them got it twice. Number 23, MJ. I think that's what makes you great. It's your ability to dominate three years in a row, lead the team, go play fucking baseball for two years, come back, do it again.

Starting point is 01:20:24 That's his fault. And you know, there was another years, come back, do it again. That's his fault. And you know, there was another guy who was going to do it twice, but... 2011 happened. Remember what happened in 2011? Yeah. CBA year? Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Short season?

Starting point is 01:20:39 Yeah. Yeah, Lakers got swept. Swept. Lakers? That was the year everything changed for the Lakers because it was a shit team. We was trying to figure out how we were going to do three in a row with Team Turmore.

Starting point is 01:20:54 But to have three in a row, three in a row between your goats, you got to get three in a row. Greatness, dominance, no stats. Give me three in a row, we have a conversation. Robert Horry got three in a row too. He in the conversation? Robert Horry. He the GOAT of the whole.

Starting point is 01:21:18 Hey Nick, you know Robert Horry is the GOAT corner boy of all time. He is. All time. Derrick Fisher got three in a row. Oh, the first three. Remember, it's a team. So whoever was on that team for those three years got three rings, too. You just don't talk about them because no one cares. You only use it when you want to separate greatness.

Starting point is 01:21:35 When you talk about the leader from that. Team awards. The leader who led. You know who has eight in a row? When you talk about, yeah, Bill Russell. That's the other goat, right? And Bron got, what, nine appearances in a row, right? Ten.

Starting point is 01:21:46 Ten? I think ten. I would expect to have five straight championships at this point. You expect to have how many? Five. Much more competitive NBA nowadays. He went to Miami and guaranteed seven. Pandemic.

Starting point is 01:22:01 You guaranteed seven. One. Five. It was five. It was like, not one, five, it was five. It was like not one, not two, not three. He said not two, not three for like a hundred. Not one, not two, not three. I think he was referring to chocolate chip cutters.

Starting point is 01:22:14 Not five, not six. But shit, man, you have to play in San Antonio. Yeah, everybody will have a conversation, but nobody want to keep it real. This was not... Lakers lost to San Antonio, too, man. We weren't jumping into a go-to. We were merely talking about Gill's mere appearance

Starting point is 01:22:33 on first take on Friday. So you don't think he deserves to have to be in the conversation at all? I think, like, as for my... Like, my conversation behind the scenes was the same. I said, because you can't look at your, how many championships did Kareem lose? How many did Magic lose? Four.

Starting point is 01:22:52 No one knows the answers like that because it wasn't pushed back then. It was only pushed greatness. Do not push the failures. So we all know Jerry West and Bronze because that was the narrative to be pushed to keep everybody away so I said you know you can't have a campaign that said I want to be like Mike you made everybody in the world want to be like Mike. You can't. Why you can't? Because 6-0 is difficult. It's damn near impossible

Starting point is 01:23:29 for you to do 6-0 and win. So Like Mike came out in 91. It wasn't even three in a row at the time. So the campaign was everybody let's be like Mike. The Gatorade commercial. That's what the world was fit. That's what all of us as kids was this be like this man

Starting point is 01:23:47 Right be be like him. So we're like, oh hell. Yeah to then realize if you actually tried to be like him You got your head cut off. I said Come on, that's a narrative brother who actually has tried to be like Mike Kobe and has gotten their head chopped off. Who? Every baby Jordan is done. But name those people who were worthy of that comparison. It don't matter. It does. The idea is they're growing up trying to be like him

Starting point is 01:24:17 and if they're actually trying to do it. You're starting the narrative that there's a hundred different players that has been lined up and compared to Michael Jordan and got ripped apart. That is not true. There's only one player that's ever been truly compared to Michael Jeffrey Jordan.

Starting point is 01:24:36 And he got absolutely obliterated. Every time. Every single time. Kobe Bryant. Right there, the jersey he got on. Kobe. Okay, so that's one. So he proved my point. Baby Jordan. The jersey he got on. Kobe. Okay, so that's one. So he proved my point.

Starting point is 01:24:46 Baby Jordan. The only one. The only one. Harold Minor was called Baby Jordan. From the dunk contest. No. Coming in, he was called Baby Jordan. Bro, it started in the dunk contest.

Starting point is 01:24:57 When him and Glenn Rice won. It started in college. He had his 30th year. But he went to SC. He didn't get that shit until he won. He wasn't even old enough to know this stuff. I was. I was watching it. I was watching it in real time. But he didn his 38 years. But he went to SC. He didn't have any intelligence. He didn't get that shit until he won. He wasn't even old enough to know this stuff. I was. I was watching it.

Starting point is 01:25:07 I was watching it in real time. But he didn't play like he could have a good first year. So again, the point was, everybody was trying to be him. That was the greatness. That's what you're telling me. This is the promised land. Okay. For kids to really try to mimic themselves after this guy.

Starting point is 01:25:22 Right? Mm-hmm. And then when players were actually trying to do it, he was getting knocked down for it. We didn't know there was a prison that was surrounding people trying to shoot at anybody who came. So you were scarring up everybody

Starting point is 01:25:35 trying to get to this castle. You should have told that us from the beginning. Bro, look at how you making that sound. Bro, you're being so dramatic with making it sound like being compared to Michael Jordan is the worst thing you could ever fucking do. Chris Brown got compared to Michael Jackson. And you know what happened to Chris Brown because of it? They were trying to, they tanked him.

Starting point is 01:25:57 Yeah, they tanked him. Expectation. The only thing you can do is disappoint me because you don't reach Michael Jackson but guess what happens at number two you're number two he's proving the point if you're number two

Starting point is 01:26:10 that means you're you're so great that if we see Michael Jackson as being this and you're compared you have to be better than everybody else

Starting point is 01:26:17 you have to be clearly better than everybody else if we compare you to him and we and our media won't let you be better than him so if we compare you to him. And our media won't let you be better than him, so you can just

Starting point is 01:26:27 take the spot. Again, like I said, since he proved the point, if this is paradise and someone that's worthy of going to it, first it was Kobe. He's going to it. What are they doing to him? While he's on this road, they're dirtying him up

Starting point is 01:26:43 all the way there. So by the time he gets to the door, he's dirty. He's too dirty. Plenty of videos saying Kobe Bryant says, I'm so grateful for what I had to go through to be here. Because I would not be here. Let Gil finish this, y'all. You made your point. You just be saying bullshit.

Starting point is 01:26:59 You saying it against the homies. Listen, when you go, you can go. If this is a clean slate of a player, paradise, clean, and this is where Kobe's trying to get to, and they're dirtying him up. When he finishes his career, he's not clean enough to be here.

Starting point is 01:27:18 LeBron, 22 years, trying to get to this spot, and they're dirtying him up the whole way there. So by the time he gets there, they're saying, ah, you didn't do this, this, this, this, this, to get in this door. So anybody who is trying to seek that road, because there's guardians over it,

Starting point is 01:27:37 they're not going to let you walk this path. See, remember, he wasn't compared to anybody, so he got to walk his path how he wanted to. The other two is like, I want to go down that road, and during the ride, they're sitting there, dirtying up the ride the whole time. Oh, you lost this, you quit on this team, you did that, you did that.

Starting point is 01:27:56 You can't do that because they're still running their race. You're trying to knock them off the race while they're still trying to do it. That's the problem. You want the easy road. That's the problem. You want the easy road. So, are you saying wait till the end and then add up everything instead of...

Starting point is 01:28:15 I got you. You know what I mean? It's like if you're scoring shots, oh, you miss again. Oh, he's terrible. You do it. Oh, you missed what? You missed this. You lost here.

Starting point is 01:28:24 You lost that. You lost this. Like, damn, I didn't finish my career. You ain't never lost anything. Yeah, but people what you missed this you lost here. You lost it. I mean My career never lost. Yeah, but people are impatient in this day They talk shit about my total number is everything but everything wasn't good about Michael Jordan back there Everything everybody was not first of all, you think everybody's just love Michael Jordan One person just winning every game, every championship in the NBA. You think they just loved that? That's fucking up the game. That made the game. People, they loved Michael Jordan when he was done hooping.

Starting point is 01:28:56 The same way that they're going to love Kobe, the same way they're going to love LeBron. I just don't want to interrupt. Everybody's going to go through some type of negative in your career. When you're talking, I don't want to interrupt. I don't know. Anybody want to be like Mike, you know what I'm saying? Not really. Not really? I was a Pistons fan growing be like Mike, you know what I'm saying? Not really. Not really? Not, not, not.

Starting point is 01:29:06 I was a Pistons fan growing up. Yeah, like people were fans of other, you had Boston, you had New York, you think they, like, they appreciated Michael Jordan, but, man, they was... The smartest, hey, the smartest man in history, the smartest man in history was Charles Barkley. It was the big man league. Charles Barkley, when he came out and said, I am not a role model, they said, so you're not trying to get the Jordan? He was like, no, I'm not a role model. You know what?

Starting point is 01:29:29 MVP. Boy, you're going to get your MVP. MVP. Give it to him. Nah. Nah. Cemetery Larry, anything you'd like to say before we move on? He'll AI for that shit.

Starting point is 01:29:38 Yeah, yeah. Cemetery Larry, what would you like to say before we move on to current NBA topics? The people who want to gatekeep the truth, they can't gatekeep the truth no more. And guys who feel like just because they reached a certain status, they can talk about certain shit, man. The Corner Boys are here to talk, too. We're going to tell y'all niggas how and who we think is the motherfucker. Because we helped build the motherfuckers.

Starting point is 01:30:03 So the Corner Boys got a say in who is who and what is what and who we respect. Who should be in our list and be in forefront. Because y'all niggas been hiding the floor for so long. You got the money, the fame, the floor, everything. Now we come in the room and y'all niggas get tight. And it gets sensitive

Starting point is 01:30:19 and shit and we can't say shit. Now all of a sudden we criticizing too much. What players? It ain't the niggas that's been doing it and getting paid hundreds of millions of dollars. They not doing it. They the homies. But, shit, we got homies, too. Corner boys and the niggas that ain't never can't get no interview because you ain't did enough.

Starting point is 01:30:39 We can say Kobe is the best, and niggas don't look at us crazy. We got proof. We ain't gotta say brun just this this he's bad but god damn can we say something can we have a voice can we have fans that respect our opinion too shit is anybody saying that you can't i'm just saying we do we have to all this shit man it's all well you don't respect your opinion you ain't done shit you ain't this is like man i know a lot of motherfuckers hit me up talking about, hey, keep talking your shit, shot. Talk for us, bro.

Starting point is 01:31:08 I feel you. So, voice of the corner boys. Nick inspired me, though. Nick inspired me. Inspired me. I ain't gonna lie. But no glaze, though. All hate. No glaze. All hate. I hear you. I mean, we are the media today. You didn't win the league.

Starting point is 01:31:24 No glaze. No dating. What are you not seeing? I mean, we are the media today. You didn't win the league. No Glaze, no Vinny. What are you not seeing? I don't know if he's disagree. I don't know what. Well, I know. Is he saying Kobe's won and Jordan didn't put out of it? No, he's just saying like, you know, like, respect the corner boys, I think was the.

Starting point is 01:31:39 Like his people that he liked got thrashed too. So Kobe got, Kobe got thrashed way more than LeBron did. Way, yeah. But I said the same thing. Whoever goes after that name got trashed. And I'm saying you just let everybody finish their career. Then you judge it. How you gave him a clean slate to try to do his career,

Starting point is 01:31:58 do the same for everybody else. Don't wait till one loses. Then you say, oh, you can't beat a GOAT because he was six for six. You can't do that. You got to let people play their what's-her-name out. What about this? Say if LeBron had a Tom Brady career, do you still compare?

Starting point is 01:32:16 What is a Tom Brady career? Seven rings. If he had the rings to match. He lost in the Super Bowl, too, still. But nobody's going to say it. Brady is the GOAT because he got all the rings, right? But he still lost in the Super Bowl. And the football may or may not have been deflated.

Starting point is 01:32:28 We don't... Seven Super Bowl rings. But he wasn't considered a GOAT at seven Super Bowl rings. That's just what he finished with. So you got to think about when these people got coined. I think once he got more than Joe Montana, I think that's when he became. Who was the best baseball player ever? Was it Barry Bonds? Nolan Ryan?

Starting point is 01:32:54 How many championships Barry Bonds has? Okay. You can't, it doesn't work. There's a team award where we have good teams, and then there's individual awards. It's, you have to. But you just, you just asked one person, you asked one person who the greatest baseball player of all time was, and he told you.

Starting point is 01:33:17 No, he said that, I said Nolan Ryan. Alright, he said that, he said, and then if you would have said Roger Clemens or Derek Jeter or somebody else, that whole conversation changes because he's a champion. Derek Jeter's a champion. And then you got certain players that are champions and are really, really good. There's a reason why, and that's the reason why. So let's talk about a player who was a champion, now has since moved on, Lakers governor.

Starting point is 01:33:44 Jeannie Buss not spoken much about the blockbuster Luka for AD trade, but in a recent interview with NPR, she shed some light on the deal from the Lakers' perspective, saying, quote, Good picture, yeah, he was a good picture. So Jeannie said, We have lost the last three years in a row to the Denver Nuggets in the playoffs,

Starting point is 01:34:02 and we really didn't have anything that was going to look different going into the playoffs again. Anthony Davis was complaining about where he was being played, and he wasn't happy. So I think this was a positive for both teams. They got what they were looking for. We got what we were looking for. First off, Jeannie, Lakers did not lose to the Nuggets three times in the playoffs. They only lost twice in the hardest sweep in NBA history in 2023, followed by the hardest gentleman sweep in 2024. This is not debatable.

Starting point is 01:34:27 This is according to the media. I know, I know, I know. So Stephen A. Smith has LeBron number one. We were so close, Steve. Right? So that's what he was saying? That's what it was? We were so close.

Starting point is 01:34:40 Okay. But now we're talking about Jeannie Buss and her comments about Anthony Marshawn Davis. So now the media's gonna turn their tide and... It's all your preference. Is it stats? Like, who said the GOAT debate? The Curry. It was Raymond, right?

Starting point is 01:35:00 Raymond said that, yeah. And then Shaq said that Curry belongs in the GOAT debate. Yeah, between. Seemingly after. The part is- Seemingly after. They don't know what a debate actually looks like. A debate is this, it's whoever they have number one, right?

Starting point is 01:35:20 You got, if Jordan's number one, then LeBron James is in the debate, Curry's in the debate, and Kevin Durant is in the debate. That's the debate. They're the active players that still are creating accolades to try to surpass whoever number one is, Michael Jordan. If Kareem can't be in a debate, he hasn't played in 35 years, I'm not going to turn on the TV or they're going to find Accolade somewhere hiding

Starting point is 01:35:50 where they can add to his resume. He didn't jump number one, right? So he can't be part of the debate anymore. He's done, right? Cole's career's finished. When he finished, he didn't pass Michael Jordan. So he's not actually part of the debate anymore. The players who

Starting point is 01:36:08 are done are actually considered out of it. It's whoever's coming up that's racing. So that's LeBron. How's Michael Jordan still in it? Because he's the top. If he's number one, everyone's chasing number one. But everybody that was being chased

Starting point is 01:36:23 they're already retired. Everyone that was being chased had already retired. What? Everyone that was being chased has already retired. So if he's number one, right? If he's number one. Okay, let's try that in shooting. Shooting. Who's the best shooter in the world? Steph Curry. So Ray Allen and Reggie Miller are

Starting point is 01:36:39 not part of the best in the world. They're not in the gold debate of shooting. They're done. So it's basically whoever is active coming along will be compared to Steph. He is holding the top. If your resume is done and you didn't surpass him, you're technically not in it. Like, what are you going to do? Ah, so that would mean the only reason for me to continue playing is to surpass. If you haven't passed him. Or because you love basketball. I to surpass if you haven't passed them or because you love basketball

Starting point is 01:37:06 I mean if you haven't you haven't passed that have made more sense now It's like if I'm not winning while I'm still playing. I'm just playing to pass everybody But what if you are still winning while you're still playing but you not but what if you are? Let's say you're on a team that second in the West Western Conference. What is second? Does second mean you won? That means you're in the process of winning. Second means you're second. But you're trying to get the first, right? That means you have to start again. Are you trying to get first in points?

Starting point is 01:37:32 Are you trying to get first in wins? So he's second right now. If Jordan's won and he's second right now, he's still trying to get the number one. So Steph Curry is, whoever, Steph Curry or KD, they're third and fourth trying to get the number one. Right? They're still active. They still get to do that.

Starting point is 01:37:49 I can't. Like, Steph can. What if Steph win the championship this year, then next year? Right? He can still keep going. But that just sounds like you just made new rules. No, that's just the rule. Nobody's ever heard that shit.

Starting point is 01:38:02 Of course. How has it been the rule if we never heard it? How can you be second 35 years straight and then all of a sudden we're still arguing that you are, what, the GOAT? That doesn't even make sense. Who is he talking about? Like somebody said,

Starting point is 01:38:18 oh, Kareem is part of the GOAT debate. You've been arguing for Kareem for 35 years. You ain't put him on yet? If you ain't put him on yet, fuck off. What are we talking about? Just think about what I'm saying. There's nothing that's going to happen.

Starting point is 01:38:34 There's no Kareem sack. But you're not understanding, bro. You're going to find. You're not understanding, bro. That's going to say, ha-ha, I got some more shit. Let's go back to the debate. But that doesn't mean we can't keep looking for him. He wants the girl to show up and not be compared to any of the other girls that have been here before. I got some more shit. Let's go back to the debate. But that doesn't mean we can't keep looking for it.

Starting point is 01:38:49 He wants the girl to show up and not be compared to any of the other girls that have been here before. That's what he wants. He wants to be the only one to walk up and don't have to take the measurement test of, man, we done had Eve over here. We done had Melissa over here. And you got to line up to them to even go upstairs. If you get in, you cool. You cool getting in.

Starting point is 01:39:13 But now to get upstairs, there's requirements. Right? And you don't fit them requirements. So you got to stay on the main floor. I don't get it. You know you get access to the refrigerator. Yeah, to the TV. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 01:39:24 Outside, back. Yeah, back. But not upstairs. You can't go upstairs, man. You don't fit the requirement. And he wants to be the girl that's like, well, why you keep comparing me to other people? Because there's been some elite motherfuckers that have been through here. What? You have to be compared. I don't get it. I'm off.

Starting point is 01:39:41 I did stealth surpass Magic, but LeBron can't surpass Jordan. But Magic got more accolades and everything and stuff? Magic, no, but what I'm saying is Magic is not the GOAT, right? But ain't he the GOAT from point guards? Yes, but Steph— But ain't the standards, you gotta get the MVP and the rings and all that? No, what I'm saying is, but Curry is still playing, so he has a chance—if he's not in front of Magic in people's mind, he's still playing to get past Magic. And Steph said he's playing.

Starting point is 01:40:04 But look, that's what he said. He's still playing. But Magic said, Magic said, you got to get all of these things. That's what I'm saying. You got to get all, but he said it. People don't even say it matters. But he's still playing, so he has a chance.

Starting point is 01:40:15 But if he doesn't, does still playing count? Is that enough? What I'm saying is, when Steph retires, if the consensus say he didn't pass him, he's't him, and he's number two, he's number two. That means he's not part of the division. But for a reason, though. Why is he number two? Because he didn't reach my rank.

Starting point is 01:40:38 Boo, boo, boo, boo, boo. All of that shit. But we don't know why he will fall to number two. Right now, if he's two, he's no fight. You know exactly why he falls to two. You know he's two right now. But you know why. It don't matter why, but he's still playing, so it don't matter.

Starting point is 01:40:54 We got to wait till his resume is over with. Then we can compare. Right now, he's two. But how can we compare? You said it don't matter why he's two. It would matter so we know how to surpass it. You need to tell me why I'm two. Tell me why I'm two.

Starting point is 01:41:10 Is Steph two because he has four rings? Why is Steph two? So why is he two to you? I didn't imagine. Hold on. Hold on. This is trapping. I mean, not you. Why is he number two? I said consensus have magic is one? Why is he number two?

Starting point is 01:41:25 I said the sisters have him number two. Why is he number two? No No, no, no, no, they don't have stuff I'm saying why do that for stuff and not for LeBron what I'm saying I don't know. I have'm saying is that I don't know I have number one yet I don't know All right, let's hear Steph number two quickly so we can move on because he has four rings I thought he asked the chat if we should move on to the next 97% say yes People have a number one. I ain't gonna lie. No, no I do but I don't know we just say I hear what you're saying I mean well because because the thing is about Jordan Jordan He won't move on when he's tired

Starting point is 01:42:09 You never get tied down you never get tired we know You wanna do but that's how you get on topic now We're on his neck nigga. Tell me about it. Are you on his goddamn neck? That's only you are telling Joe you are only personal with your you got the earbud and you ain't listening You're on this goddamn neck. Tell him, Joe. Tell him, Joe. You are only personal with your... You got the earbud in. You ain't listening. They about to tell you. I'm actually listening to the Jamiroquai hit.

Starting point is 01:42:32 You want to switch up the topic and shit when we cooking and shit. It would be. That's what I was saying. Let me find out the producer's work over there. Zinz has magic. And shout out Jamiroquai. Shout out Jamiroquai.

Starting point is 01:42:45 See, I don't do my personal. I do Zinz's. He's the greatest point guard, though. So they have Magic as one and Steph as two. I just heard everybody say. And Oscar Robinson as three. So how I or how you're supposed to process it, Oscar Robinson, right? He's done.

Starting point is 01:43:01 He's been done for a while. Okay. He is not part of the point guard goat debate. I asked Gilbert Green this morning. He's done. There's nothing he can do to surpass one. So he's not even in the conversation anymore.

Starting point is 01:43:15 So three is done. Four is done. Five is done. Chris Paul's six. Chris Paul would be right behind Steph for fighting for the goat debate of point guards. Okay. Once your career is done and you didn't go over, everybody else still has a chance. Right.

Starting point is 01:43:35 That's how you're supposed to look at it, right? Jerry West and all of them, they can't be in the GOAT debate because there's nothing you can do to surpass Magic. But what they did should be, you should talk about it, like a pair, right? I can't compare, you're done. So in order for Kobe to have surpassed Mike, he would have had to have gotten six titles.

Starting point is 01:43:52 No, if that's your, if that's your personal criteria. I just asked the question. I know, that's what I'm saying. I'm asking, bro. You're using titles. I just asked. I didn't use shit.

Starting point is 01:44:01 I asked a question. Okay. Listen to the question. Kobe Bryant. Kobe Bryant. If he gets six titles, does he become better than Michael Jordan? What about the eight scoring? You don't want to ask.

Starting point is 01:44:14 What about the eight scoring? You're answering a question with a question. I'm asking, how about eight scoring titles, right? Four finals MVPs, a defensive player of the year. I mean, there's things that's other besides a team accolade. An individual accolade. This is not the best player. That's called moving the goalpost when you don't have an answer.

Starting point is 01:44:42 You're moving. He's literally having't answered a question. You're using one accolade that has team awards. You might as well do the Macarena, my nigga. I'm saying the guy at top has 10 scoring titles. Are we just going to pretend that's not a thing? He has four finals

Starting point is 01:44:57 MVPs. Are we going to forget that thing? He has five MVPs. Are we going to pretend that? Are we just going to use a teamball? That's not what I asked. I asked a specific question. No, if he got another championship, no. So he surpassed him in points all time. Mm-hmm.

Starting point is 01:45:14 Yeah. Mm-hmm. He also played longer. And didn't get six. But before he surpassed him, all they said was, Kobe got to get six to be better than Mike. Who said that? The same people you say. Oh, shit. Who said that? Oh the same people you say. Oh shit. Who said that? Oh shit. Oh shit. Oh what consensus. You ain't gonna just ask Steve? Won't you just ask Steve? Just say Steve. Hey Steve who's the greatest baseball player of all time?

Starting point is 01:45:40 Oh oh yeah what Steve said. Yeah so Steve is the consensus. I'm talking normal, so we know what you're talking about. Get the fuck out of here, man. That's how you sound when you're talking bullshit to me. The consensus said what again? The consensus said if he won another championship, he would have... He would be better than Michael Jordan. Yeah, Kobe Bryant had six. They said he would be better.

Starting point is 01:46:03 Consensus never actually had Kobe Bryant in the top five yet. Now he's telling us the consensus. What it is. If you go year by year and say top ten ranking every year from 2012, 13, 14, 15, 16, Kobe Bryant never was in the top five of consensus. The census burrow. So right now in consensus, he's nine or ten. Oh, man.

Starting point is 01:46:26 Right? I hear you. Everybody, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, they all have multiple MVPs. MVPs. That's one thing that actually hurts Kobe's argument from the consensus. So not five rings? Team.

Starting point is 01:46:43 That's not. Team. Do you hear what he's saying? Team success is not a part of your greatness. It's the team if you hear what he's saying Is not a part of your great war you're war it's not a part of your day your body of being a leader and dominating in a leadership position Six rings three piece Okay, I've never heard about the MVP listen, how about this I I know they didn't tell you why you said they didn't tell you Because if you look at the list

Starting point is 01:47:08 When Steph is when Steph is finished He has two MVPs four titles he's who fighters him a Kobe He's gonna be he's gonna be pushed in there It's the envy is to oh, It's the accolades, man. I thought it was about rings. I didn't know we were adding all this other stuff to it. That's what they started using. That wasn't part of it.

Starting point is 01:47:33 See, I thought it was about rings. I didn't know because if we're starting to break down stuff, then it's like. It's your greatness as MVPs, first teams, defensive players. That's what it was. I know. You know that. I mean, everything's been about rings. Everything's been about rings, though, growing up. There's a reason. I know, but I'm just saying. That's what it was. I know. You know that. I mean, everything's been about rings. No. Everything's been about rings, though, growing up.

Starting point is 01:47:46 That's what they told you. There's a reason. I know, but I'm just saying. That's what- Hey, BJ, why do you think Mike did this? Because he knew that's all that mattered. Yes. Because he was a-

Starting point is 01:47:55 Six of them. That's a- Six of them. What did Kobe do? Kobe did up there, he said- That's all I heard. Five. Jordan never lost-

Starting point is 01:48:03 I got one more to say. I got one more to say. That's more this that's our age, right? 93 seasons how many rings the Jordan half? Point the coin goat greatest of all time came out in the 90s by LL Koochie They understood the greatest of all time in their sport So they started coining people in sports that Jordan in 92, the 92, 92 threes, before he three peated was considered the NBA version of the goat. So this, when he was old enough to know what this was, that wasn't even there.

Starting point is 01:48:36 In 92? No, no. Yeah. But that's what I'm saying. He came in and burned. And burned was on his back. He came in at what, 84? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:48:44 Mike came in at 84? That's a lot of it. He came in away for yeah, I came in 84 That's a lot of ain't nobody playing with him at that time. There's a goat how many rings did? How many rings in the league? Yes, no ever that ever see what was magic? How many MVPs in magic hat? They were finally three maybe the man only had to going to his third when he was the greatest player that ever touched the NBA Floor he was the goat. that ever touched the NBA floor. He was the GOAT. Okay. All right.

Starting point is 01:49:06 So this wasn't a thing yet. Sufficient GOAT discussion for this episode of Gil's Arena. I think you should do NBA research. We will do that this summer. Just understand your history. Let's talk about the current National Basketball Association. Look at these 10. It's consensus.

Starting point is 01:49:28 I have them three in mind. I'm saying consensus of them 10. Lord help us. Jesus Christ. Now would be a good time. If it's personal, then it's reality. Now would be a good time for you to download the underdog app, use promo code GIL, get up to $1,000 in bonus cash, plus a special pickup.

Starting point is 01:49:40 All right, let's talk about the current Lakers squad. So we will start this again. We will start this again, hopefully, with no interruption or interference. Lakers Governor Jeannie Buss has not spoken much about the blockbuster Lucifer AD trade, but in a recent interview with NPR, she shed some light on the deal from the Lakers' perspective. Let's look at that quote one more time, if we can. We have lost the last three years in a row to the Denver Nuggets in the playoffs, and we really didn't have anything that was going to look different going into the playoffs. Again, Anthony Davis was complaining about where he was being played and he wasn't happy.

Starting point is 01:50:09 So I think this was a positive for both teams. They got what they were looking for. We got what we were looking for. As a reminder, again, Lakers only lost twice to the Nuggets in two of the hardest playoff series in NBA history. AD played five and a half seasons with the Lakers, selected to four All-Star games, two All-NBA teams, and won a title in the bubble in 2020 during his tenure.

Starting point is 01:50:29 Did Jeannie Buss take a shot at AD or was she just keeping it a buck? Kenny, I know you're a spirited dominoes game right now, but we have shifted conversation. We have shifted the topic. So you see what y'all started? We did notice that Joe Budden in his podcast started hooping. Didn't one of them tear their Achilles? Yeah, did you see what y'all started?

Starting point is 01:50:48 That's why you got to stretch, ladies and gentlemen, if you're not a real hooper. But do you think Jeannie Buss is taking a shot at 8D, or was she just keeping it above? This is my opinion. This is not a right-now conversation for owners. She shouldn't be making this statement right now, in my opinion. This is not a right now conversation for owners. She shouldn't be making this statement right now in my opinion. This is off-season conversation. You made the deal, you did it.

Starting point is 01:51:22 There's no, you know what I'm saying? The same shit's the same shit about, the same shit they did to Luka, right? Talking about he's fat, out of shape, all that shit, right? It's the same shit. Just formed in a different manner. So no, it's just, yeah, this is ownership. It's a little sweeter. Yeah, it's a little sweeter than, yeah, this is coming from a woman's perspective. She's trying to soften the blow a little bit

Starting point is 01:51:47 So prior to that trade though ad did have comments about yeah being playing out of position We all know that appear to take a shot at the front off. We all know that I understand I'm just saying but what he said is not false right If y'all Dean if I've helped you win a championship, and I've been out here doing this night, and I'm not asking you to go out and get Nikola Jokic or Joel Embiid.

Starting point is 01:52:17 Just give me somebody who, like, so it's not a huge accident, and then so for you to throw it in his face once you get rid of him. It's talking bad about the ex on the way it's like Yes, shit, right So I don't I don't agree with it. Like I said it if she was to make this statement Let it be an offseason.. Like, this is for ownership. GMs, now, yeah, you need to answer questions right now. But ownership is off-season conversations

Starting point is 01:52:54 and shit like that, in my opinion. Do you think Jeannie a little out-of-pocket making these comments right now, middle of the season? Yeah, because you don't have to. But if she's asked a question, do you expect her to answer it? Just say, I'm going to wait until the offseason to answer it. You don't have to answer everything. You don't have to answer it.

Starting point is 01:53:11 It's a decision we decided to make for the betterment of our team. We feel both teams improved. Keep moving. That's what she said, though. Oh, because he wanted to be a five man and he wanted to be a four. You could have just picked up a big and you could have...

Starting point is 01:53:29 We got Trey Jefferson. I mean, so... I mean, but y'all took a shot on the player that we had. Who? Dallas. Like they took a shot, so we're gonna take a shot at your player now. No, no, no. They took a shot at the player that they got rid of.

Starting point is 01:53:42 Right, right. That's our player. So we're gonna take a shot at the player that we got rid of. Who the fuck's our player. So we're going to take a shot at the player that we got rid of. Who the fuck else is this? This is the Los Angeles Lakers. We're at a higher standard. Don't try to make it seem like we're getting some fat, slow dude who don't train or don't do all that. But we know that.

Starting point is 01:53:58 We see that. Y'all getting a broken guy. You know what I'm saying? We see you got the Maybach or the Lamborghini, and they probably got a, you know, whatever. That's fine. So I don't need to make fun of your car. No, no, no.

Starting point is 01:54:10 You know what your car look like. No, no, no. Don't ever make fun of nothing. I know, but that's what I'm saying. I think certain people have certain standards. Like, the Lakers are different. Like, you know, if you throw shots at the Lakers, you know what's coming.

Starting point is 01:54:21 But you don't have to. Yes, we do. Always. No, because you see Dallas. That's right. I see what happened to you. Yes, we do. Always. No, because you see Dallas. That's right. I see what happened to you. What did Kendrick do? What did Kendrick do?

Starting point is 01:54:29 I kept kicking my enemy down, way down. So you want to, I'm going to keep kicking you down. But that's not the enemy, though. Stay hard. You're trying to say we're getting some dude who can't do it or get it done. But you clearly see. You try to justify. Remember, you're crying about, Dallas is crying about why they did the

Starting point is 01:54:47 Like an emotional fucking woman you you got the you got the Got this The fuck it is the statement coming from an emotional woman in the moon So unless you agree that's what I have to let the world know why I know I'm the owner I'm the owner That my point exactly she has a guy that say shit You don't have to but she has to say cuz she's emotional about he want to be here Who was at what point in time did someone ask thanks theakers, was that a bad move for y'all?

Starting point is 01:55:26 Nobody. So what do you, there's nothing you need to say. You probably be happy. Everybody know, everybody know outside of Dallas, and I'm pretty sure that's a, that's 75, that's 95 know y'all, that Dallas fucked up. Right? The rest of the world, like Lakers, fucking Lakers won this trade. So you're justifying why you got rid of Luka. I don't need to explain to you.

Starting point is 01:55:50 What's the problem? Y'all got funeral homes out there. The problem is this. They had a funeral. They didn't have a funeral in front of their... AD didn't know. She felt like that. Now he do.

Starting point is 01:56:02 Well, he could have called. No, no, this is what I'm saying she using well he didn't want to be there in the first place now he's like well y'all told me y'all didn't know nothing about the fucking deal I said what they said what the fuck are we talking about now I caught y'all in some shit Jenny hold up well we knew about the deal when it was presented to us we was trying to make you the number one guy for all these years.

Starting point is 01:56:26 But listen, but you know, I'm asking for this. You know what? Y'all just mentioned something in the bubble when they won. Who was playing the four? Who was playing the five? Yeah. All right, so if I want to win, I'm trying to let y'all know this is how we need to win, how I can play to help us win.

Starting point is 01:56:40 Give me a five. They had two of them. But you also remember. They had two. They had three. Boogie was on that team. The following season, what happened in the playoffs? No, but. They lost the of them. But you also remember. They had three. Their boogie was on that team. The following season, what happened in the playoffs? They lost the whole team.

Starting point is 01:56:48 But she didn't say. None of them bigs came back. None of them bigs came back. But we're on pace to make another run. A.D. Hurst's hamstring. But y'all didn't have nobody to back him up. Y'all had them two bigs. Come on, man.

Starting point is 01:56:59 You got to stress. So think about what she's doing. She's covering her own ass right now. But to who? To the public. No, the coaches didn't, the coach didn't know, LeBron didn't know. She knew, she even said it. We've been working on this in quiet for weeks.

Starting point is 01:57:12 She's on it. I've been working on this for weeks. Think about this. Play basketball and not do my job. Rob said him and Jenny has a great working relationship. They've been talking about it. He presented it to her when it was presented to him. We can get rid of damaged goods right now.

Starting point is 01:57:30 Basically. That's fine. But it wasn't on the table before because we were trying to get Valachunas and other players to compliment what he was asking for. We couldn't get it done. So this is the only trade that happened to do this. Uh-oh, Luka. You want want to do the Luca trade? Hell yeah. He don't even want to be here. Shit. Yeah, let's do it.

Starting point is 01:57:53 Because before that, before that drop in your lap, you stuck with AD if the Luca thing don't go through. But you nobody know about it. So then you're good. You're stuck with AD. But nobody knows about it. Right? That's like right now if you got Brunson over in New York and they say, hey, we'll trade you. We'll trade Brunson for Shea. OKC calls you. You had no plans on trading Brunson.

Starting point is 01:58:19 And you're like, you're going to give me Shea? OK. OK, let's do it. We'll give you Vukovic for Austin Reeves. We'll give you Vukovic for Austin Reeves. There's some people you pick your phone up for. You be sitting there like, yeah, yeah, yeah. You say, what? Who? Hold on, hold on.

Starting point is 01:58:37 I'm not even going to hang up. Hey, they trying to give us Luka. For LeBron? No, no, for AD. Yes. So before that deal, you wouldn't do the Vukovic for Austin Reeves? You wouldn't do what you need for something that you think is going to be a later asset down the line?

Starting point is 01:58:52 We don't know what they was asking for. We don't know what other they was asking for. Well, I'm not asking them. They not here with us. I'm asking you. I don't know what they're asking for. I can give you a real trade that I know of. Okay. 2000, where you was this, 2000, it was Bradley Bill and John Wall. John Wall was here.

Starting point is 01:59:11 So it was when Kyrie got to Brooklyn. Okay. So I'm on the phone with them trying to piece up Bradley Bill, get them back on the same page. So I'm having a heart to heart with John Wall, telling him reality. Like, yo, you've been out for a while, that's the new king. got to come back and play your role like this is just where it is, right? He's been holding the fort down. Right? I said just like when you came to the team I backed up playing off of you. That's what you have to do and

Starting point is 01:59:38 Talking to them and they're like we're not trading John walk boom, right? Mmm week later John walk got traded and And I called. I said, man, I talked to this man, told him everything was good. And how are you going to trade him? He was like, Houston called and said, hey, I heard y'all have a problem over there. We want to offload Russell Westbrook. How the fuck I turn that down? It's Russell Westbrook. You know what I mean? I can't turn that down. Right?

Starting point is 02:00:08 I got an injured player. He don't get along with the two. You trying to give me a triple-double guy? I'm not. Yes. He said, I didn't want to trade John Wall, but I was presented something that I just couldn't turn down. And that's what ended up happening.

Starting point is 02:00:22 That happens. The only reason Russell Westbrook was not in Washington, D.C. is because Russell wanted to come home. They was begging him, like, please don't leave. Like, please, whatever you want. They valued Russell that much that Russell was like, I just want to play at home for once. And that's how he got to the Lakers, but

Starting point is 02:00:39 Ted wasn't coming off of Russell Westbrook, so, you know what I mean? There's just certain players you get a call from, like, you really have to consider that shit. And Zuka was one of them. But I guess at a shot point, how long do we think? Because you see the articles. It seemed like Nico and Rob were having these conversations for at least a couple weeks, potentially a month.

Starting point is 02:00:55 At what point did Genie find that out? At what point did the powers that be find that out? Man, it's the owner. The owner found out as soon as Rob heard it and got presented. So now they're walking around the facility dapping the guy. Yeah, yeah. That's the basketball. Hey, man, you did good, bro.

Starting point is 02:01:13 How's the family? Everybody in school? You putting up them numbers. Hey, man, you should think about homeschooling. For real, homeschooling is a good program. Bro, you know how to, man, listen. They smiling in your face, bro. They dirty, dog. Homeschooling for real homeschool is good program They smiling in your face, bro Dirty dog my name conversations be going on I've been at this dog

Starting point is 02:01:39 But when I got doing I said and I was trying to get on front office staff man. I said a couple of meetings, bro And that shit that's just man All in motherfuckers at the last minute the worst worst thing that ever hits a free agent during the trade, they're like, we're not going to trade you. Motherfuckers are like, oh, my God. But is that being petty? With Kyrie being hurt, AD out of the team is fucked up.

Starting point is 02:01:59 Yeah. That's what I'm saying. If you say that, like, this is what y'all want, it's basically his. This is what you want now. Nico might get fired. He helped you out. Like, you don't do that. If she said that, this is what y'all want. This is basically his. This is what you want now. Nico might get fired. He helped you out. You don't do that.

Starting point is 02:02:08 Come on, man. Nico got another job. I can tell you this. Nico coming back. We wouldn't know the grand results at the end of this if Nico, whenever his contract up, if he get an extension, this was all part of the plan. Remember, there's an entity out there in Phoenix Suns. They're going to blow that motherfucker up. This ain't no plan right here, though.

Starting point is 02:02:31 You know? Both your stars hurt. Now, OK, how about this? That's what I'm saying. Now, how about this? This summer, Kevin Durant get dead. That just wasn't a... That was planned.

Starting point is 02:02:41 This was planned. Mm-hmm. Now you're talking about if you somehow get Kevin around, I don't give a fuck how you move it around, pieces he go there first, then come to you. However you get there, Curry, Kevin, and Anthony Davis, god damn it, you just became, you went from dummy

Starting point is 02:02:56 to genius. And that's how it goes sometimes in this game. We gotta see we gotta see sometimes we don't know what the rest of the plan is. They raised them ticket prices up for a reason. They know something. We didn't raise ours up. of the plan is. They raised them ticket prices up for a reason. They know something. We didn't raise ours up. What the fuck y'all raised y'all up for?

Starting point is 02:03:10 Who y'all waiting for? Is LeBron James coming over that bitch? What you raise it for? Like, what are you raising it for? Who's coming? Because you didn't raise it with Luka after your championship. You get Anthony Davis and you raise it. Who the fuck are y'all expecting

Starting point is 02:03:26 to get around this bitch? Is Braun coming? Like, you gotta think about raising ticket prices in the middle of a season, and one person just went down. Anthony Davis is gone, and you raise ticket prices for next season. 9%? And Luke got a new owner, right? Yeah, the lady.

Starting point is 02:03:42 And she's trying to go to Vegas or something like that Raising your ticket price to go to Vegas. I don't know what make it what makes it all just fuck everything What makes it what makes it sis Brian and Kyrie got a good relationship you're trying to recruit him over there last year He has option about Right and leaving. Yeah, y'all need a face to the lead? He ain't leaving Lubez. Oh, yeah, go over here.

Starting point is 02:04:08 I'll go over there. Brown ain't never leaving Lubez. I know, I know. Brown is not leaving. He is never leaving Lubez. Let's talk about Brown's arch nemesis, the Boston Celtics. He's going to pass, like Lubez passed. So a Celtics duo made history last night, and it wasn't Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum.

Starting point is 02:04:23 Let's take a look. Boston was down three starters as Tatum, Drew Holiday, and Kristaps Porzingis all missed a game. But the Celtics showcased their depth and got huge games out of Derek White and Caucasian corner boy Peyton Pritchard. In fact, that duo became the first in the history of the Boston Celtics franchise to both score 40

Starting point is 02:04:40 in the same game. If you think about all the legends that have played, there is quite the accomplishment. Damn! Hey, you know who they look like right now? That look like me out there early. That look like me out there early and just flaming that shit.

Starting point is 02:04:57 So, Derrick White had a career-high 41 points, nine threes. Pritchard also set career-high to 43 points and 10 threes. Also became the first pair of teammates in NBA history to each record their first career 40-point game in the same game in the first duo in NBA history with nine or more three-pointers each in a game. Pritchard,

Starting point is 02:05:14 also known as P-Rabbit, Oregon native who also attended college at Oregon. Let's go Ducks for some of you out there that support. Got it done off the bench in front of his hometown crowd up in Portland. Oh wait, Derek White is an all-defensive team caliber defender, but make no mistake, gold medal winner can get buckets as well.

Starting point is 02:05:30 But you said in the first history you had 40 and 40? As they're teammates, yeah, same game. Oh! I'm sorry. I knew I should have passed the ball to Antoine. But I wanted 43 because it's my majority. Fuck, had damn I had 41 here 39 and I could have gave him If I do rewind it back, I'm still shaking that shot. It was Michael Jordan on me, man. I had Michael Jordan on the ice,

Starting point is 02:06:07 so I'm thinking I was about to AI that bitch. No, he ripped. He stole that. You let 40-year-old Michael Jordan steal it? 41. Yeah, but it was the first time he stuck me, and I tried to hit him with a move. It's the first time he what? You know, in the game, I had 41 against him. No, in the NBA game.

Starting point is 02:06:23 Oh. First time he stuck you? I hit him with a cross. I tried to hit him game. Oh. First time he stuck you? I hit him with a cross. I tried to hit him with a cross. What did he stick you with? And he blabbed that. What did he stick you with? And I was trying to AI him and got that shit taken. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:06:34 Damn! I could have been the first. They would have been the second. You ain't never been stuck like that before, huh? Huh? You ain't never been stuck like that. That's 40- fully your old stuck. So anyway, anywho, as we say, what did the big scoring performances from Pritchard and

Starting point is 02:06:49 White tell you about the Celtics? You want to say something? So I'm just saying, I mean, we don't, I'm pretty sure there's only one of us on this couch that was having full conversation with a man. I don't know what the fuck you talking about. You remember that man that was asking for $75,000? I don't know what you talking about. You remember that man that was asking for $75,000, huh?

Starting point is 02:07:19 They lost his money. Yeah, okay. Stop. Stop. I don't want to play like that. Then stop then. I don't know to play like this. Then stop it. Then stop it. They don't believe that shit.

Starting point is 02:07:28 They should. They should. Talk about the shit, man. Okay, there we go. You done? Damn, there you go. So you want to go that far because you got stuck. It's early days of YouTube.

Starting point is 02:07:36 You want to go that far because you got stuck. When they showing the hip. When they showing the hip. I can't even say anything. Showing that hip. Hey, King, they got him with the old hip shot. What? Looking good. Gentlemen, gentlemen, can we get a picture? Say anything showing that here a king they got him with the old hip shot. Oh Looking good

Starting point is 02:07:51 Gentlemen can we what you need from me? Can we move to the topic what you need for me? Yeah, right write it down shot We move to the topic diagram a pleasure on too far Thank you God God Hey, Gil, what the fuck you trying to blackmail me, man? I ain't even know. Your gun's too far. Your gun's too far. Thank you. Your gun's too far. My big gun. Your gun's too far now, man. Hey, Gil, man, I ain't even know, man. Hey, you know what I'm talking about.

Starting point is 02:08:11 Shots and shots. Your gun. Yeah, he was shot in your ass. So stop. Tore it off. Your gun. Nigga, you think the picture's like. Like this?

Starting point is 02:08:23 Yeah. I play for the Lakers you you sending me mail man don't you think it would be everywhere if I did what I have to do Nick what I had to do Nick what I had to do Nick back to the had to do Nick! I never said no dick-ficking-a-lot. Back to the Celtics if we can. See, when it's the corner niggas, you want to start talking crazy. No, I'm just saying. I'm just saying. Corner boys unite.

Starting point is 02:08:53 He was over here talking about... So, what did the big scoring performances from Pritchard and Derek White tell you about these Celtics? You have an off-data then. I just... I got, wasn't they second, were they first best player out there, according to somebody? Hmm? I don't think, let me see. Were they, huh?

Starting point is 02:09:14 Hmm. Wasn't they, according to some people, right? So no Tatum, no Drew Holiday, no Chris Dallas-Pourzini. But I think it's about, according to some people, their number one option was out there, though, right? According to some who believe that Jalen Brown to be the number one out there I'm sure payment that verbatim regular season Jalen Brown paid 40 minutes. Well, you're saying I talk to my all-star weekend

Starting point is 02:09:43 No, but he told me what a son their number one option was still out there. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. So how he got his points is how they got their points. Jalen Brown. I talked to him at All-Star weekend. He told me what time it was. So I don't know.

Starting point is 02:09:56 You're being kind. What time is it, D? Yeah, you know. What time did Jalen Brown say it was? That's what I'm just saying. You know what I'm saying? I'm just saying. When the playoffs come, that's when.

Starting point is 02:10:04 No. He didn't say that. That's not what you're saying come, that's when. No. He didn't say that. That's not what you're saying. You're not looking at it. When Tatum is in, this is how people eat. I'm trying to break the game up. Now Brown is getting the double. He has to pass it.

Starting point is 02:10:14 That's how they get their 41. That's how you got to understand how they're playing the game. I mean, their team is good. I mean, their team is good. No, but what I'm saying is if you're doubling me, I got shooter-shooter. Nobody on the team is getting double. They ain't doubling Jason Tatum. Nobody's on the team is ever getting double. Brown was getting double. No one's getting double Brown was again double us now, but never I mean, that's bad to say I mean you should have just said yes

Starting point is 02:10:33 I just hand double now. You're just saying he's not good enough They took good the good just a driving that whole team any good you can't driving kick and they shoot threes There's two guys are yeah 40. Okay, One of them could get finals MVP this year. If they get there. One good game. Paying pressure, Derek, why do you feel like you're being finals MVP contention? The way they play. The way they play.

Starting point is 02:10:54 Derek White, for sure. He hit five threes in the game. The way they play. As we know, Danny Green almost won. I mean, it just lets you know how good your team is that two players that are One is a bench player one is the fourth option fifth option And do it up 40 in the game. Mm-hmm. So this is the first time somebody did that any six minute a year LeBron Kyrie didn't do it. I didn't play. Oh, they didn't the playoffs. Mm-hmm. I thought they did it before

Starting point is 02:11:26 So no, Jason Tatum Jalen Brown That's tough notice that two-corner But that six-man playing like a think about like like we know all the names in history 20 years from now there's going to be this is going to be a duo

Starting point is 02:11:51 that does this and everybody's going to be like, yeah, they just passed these two. Who is that? White and Pritchard. Pritchard and White. Is that one person? White Pritchard. White Pritchard and White. You don't know him? Is that one person? Richard and his wife. White Pritchard. He's like the old me.

Starting point is 02:12:07 White Pritchard. Steve Curry and KD. Think about the doubles, the twos. Pritchard can become Steve Nash very quickly. Just don't quote me, but Pritchard can turn into something you ain't seen before. Steve Nash in the Laker uniform? Gil? He scored that thing. He's a scorer.

Starting point is 02:12:29 He scored that thing better than Steve Nash. What was Steve Nash in Dallas? What was Steve in Dallas? I know, but he scored better than Dallas. Steve in Dallas was something, something. It was like, ah. He didn't get through it, though. You see, but then he went to.

Starting point is 02:12:38 He ain't passing. If you was in the league earlier, like league where Steve Nash was in Dallas, he was like, eh. He was with Dirk and the friends and Okay He's put him on it put him on Put preaching on be a word by itself. So preaching under contract through 2028. I believe They got him. They got him on a great. Oh, they got him. Yeah for six man, right? He's up for six

Starting point is 02:13:04 I'm gonna do it for sure. I'm not to those Celtics squad. Let's he's a sneaker player like we're They got him on a great deal. Oh, they got him. He up for six man, right? He's up for six man in a year. For sure. Shout out to those Celtics squad. He's a sneaker player. He's a guy who can come off the bench and change a series because of how he shoots, how he scores. He's like Austin Reeves. Like Mark Price. But he's more deadlier than Austin know, Austin when he getting it going

Starting point is 02:13:27 Somebody you don't want to see it you see a lane and they're the first selfies do it You don't want to see him and you see a lane right? First, oh, you know he getting you out of here He gonna be looking he might drop you he might try to drop He might try to draw we got one more thing to discuss where we get to most of fans I'm sure you will appreciate it. So, hold on. Before we do, Gil, you're looking a little parched.

Starting point is 02:13:51 Parched? A little parched. It was Ashy Wednesday yesterday. Please get him something. Please bring Gil something to replenish. His mojo as they say. I can't believe you. I don't know you.

Starting point is 02:14:06 You're the one who was in the DM Good please I saved her embarrassment, please reveal Yeah Got some ribs. Courtesy of Kenyon. Woo! Don't freeze them, Gil. Eat them now. Don't do that again, bro. What if I threw them, motherfucker?

Starting point is 02:14:38 Hey. You gonna take his ribs. I seen you putting your fingers in them earlier. I cooked them shit. I seen you putting your fingers in them earlier. I cooked them. I licked them. I hope you eat them. There it is, Gil. Yup.

Starting point is 02:14:49 It's like spit. It comes from the Martin house. It comes from the Martin house. So we got some that have sauce on them, son. Yeah, it's something light, man. You got up, yeah, threw a few slaps. Put that whole meat in your mouth. That's crazy.

Starting point is 02:15:02 Came through something on the grill. Something light on the grill. They thought I was playing when I said I froze them. Yeah, that was, yeah. I thought you was crazy. I thought you was playing too. I didn't know, I thought you had a couple. I didn't know you had a whole trio of them.

Starting point is 02:15:15 So did you throw them away? Yeah. Thank you. Like I only, I live up the street, dog. You know you can, you text me like, listen, bro, can you, have no problem. You know what the bad part is? When I, I. Can you you know the bad part is when I work? I'm not gonna go long. I walked out there and I looked at him like you should still do look good Yeah, I might just walk up the stairs

Starting point is 02:15:36 And we throw away no, yeah, no he had to throw the motherfuckers away though well gangrene I wish he was like I understand like Wait, you on my fucking nerves. Speaking of throwing something on the grill, Pistons guard Malik Beasley made some interesting comments during a stream with Neon recently, saying James Harden was easy to guard in comparison to guys like Steph or Klay. Well, with

Starting point is 02:15:59 the Pistons in town Wednesday night, Harden turned back the clock with a vintage 50 piece. Let's take a look. So President Barack Obama was in attendance. Harden showed out, dropping 50 in 38 minutes to lift the Clippers to victory. The Clippers were without Kawhi, who was sitting out the second night of a back-to-back, and Norm Powell, who was nursing a hamstring strain. So every bit of that 50 was needed from the beard.

Starting point is 02:16:23 Harden's first 50-piece as a member of the Clippers in his 24th career such game. Only Kobe, MJ, and Wilt have more 50-point games in NBA history. Also the highest scoring game to date in the brief history of the NBA. That old man shit right there. Oh, let me keep this ball away from you, young fella. Yeah, you get away. Let me shoot this fade away. In Beasley's defense, he was saying guys like Steph or Klay, they move around a lot more than Harden.

Starting point is 02:16:50 That was what he was saying in terms of making it easier to guard. Harden's gonna bop, bop, bop you. Not gonna be running around. But the bop, bop, bop can still give you a 50-piece. Damn. There go Dennis Schroeder. You got traded from the Warriors already? He's been on the move. Yeah, they traded him soon as he said that slave shit.

Starting point is 02:17:07 What did he say? Like being the slave shit, yeah. He said he was on the move? Yeah, basically. Your name is Kuta. Yeah, Toby. Toby. But those upstairs.

Starting point is 02:17:17 They show you at them. Let's go back to James Harden. Hold on. Before we go back, that was no marinating or nothing. I seasoned him this morning and put them on the grill. Oh, you did that this morning? Yes, I seasoned them this morning. Oh, you made the ribs this morning?

Starting point is 02:17:29 I'm gonna finish them this afternoon. Where the barbecue sauce? Huh? What, who? You don't need this. Do you make a homemade barbecue sauce? No, I do not. But I doctor the sauce up, though. Think about those.

Starting point is 02:17:41 And I doctor the sauce up that I throw on them, but no, I don't. I season them. Hey, I said put them upstairs. Gil, though. I doctor the sauce up that I throw on them, but no, I don't. Hey, I said put them upstairs. Gil, I had a please on the end of that. Please? No, I made a statement. Who are you today? Are you okay?

Starting point is 02:17:52 Exclamation point. Who are you? Look at him talking to people. No, I'm like, I want to walk up out of here about three times a day. Because you're taking me. You can change. I don't like you no more. First take.

Starting point is 02:18:06 You've been around Stephen A. too much. Where my friend go? Hairline pushback, all type of shit, bro. Back. You moved your lip like, where my friend go? Where my friend go?

Starting point is 02:18:15 We've got some certified bucket getters here on this couch. Good ass ribs. We got... Y'all zoom in on that. Where my friend go? We got some certified bucket getters here in this couch

Starting point is 02:18:25 Can you describe how tough it was for James Harden to drop 50 at age 35 on the second night of a back-to-back? Doing all old man moves. It's not it's not difficult when you're him. It would be you've dropped 55 in your career You can shoot man. All you need is a little space bro. It's tough And that could change the whole night for you, for real. You make three in a row and somebody playing up, blow by, confidence through the roof. And especially for an older guy, you get that confidence and that jump, oh my God. I know where I'm going. I know where I want to go.

Starting point is 02:19:01 I'm not over it. Game's going down. Game's slowly, yeah. IQ, like, I think we were just talking about that with Giannis. That's what Giannis is going to be doing at 35. That's what we see with Brian. You know you feel good when you dunk the ball. You're watching Brian do it in real time.

Starting point is 02:19:14 When did I last see James dunk? It's unfair, right? Because it's like James is that good as a guard where he really knows. As he's out there, you really watch his game. He's so bored. He's looking at you like easy i want you to challenge me so i have to play but that's that's what i liked about it like didn't malik blizzi said something yeah i love that and that's him talking to him like i know you went in there and i can do it whenever i want to don't don't start with me you talk trash

Starting point is 02:19:44 and then the next game you get 50 drops on you Oh, yeah Better go crazy Better lock somebody up. So I vetoed that you can put them back in that so you was trying to got the listen You got to listen. You got to listen. You got to listen. They don't be listening. They don't be. They don't be listening.

Starting point is 02:20:10 Yeah, like, I mean, there's going to be some mixed reviews in that locker room. Think about it. One, because if you not guarding him and I got to guard him, he just put 50 on me because you wouldn't. No, he was guarding, but they switched off. No, it ain't no switch. Oh, this old school. Oh, my God. They had to put somebody else on.

Starting point is 02:20:25 Old school. No, this is your man. Ain't no switch, God damn it. You better go under or go over. They're trying to win, though. I can cool. He's trying to prove. Hey, we trying to win.

Starting point is 02:20:35 He's trying to prove a point. God damn it. What we've been talking about, though, we can't challenge them the way the challenge was just made out there. Yeah. What did that challenge do for us? As Hoopers watching, what did that challenge do? It made us say, shit, about time somebody sparked James to fucking come out there and show us he still can be James.

Starting point is 02:20:57 Where is all that? That should be a constant challenge every other night at least. Somebody challenged somebody where James like what'd you say me? Who? Best why they don't bad. That's why they want to do it because It's the same thing like because James is in a different place in his game The 50 ball has always been there. I think he's really trying to Change and show that he can play point guard. He can get everybody involved. So His scoring he's just playing docile. And that's the thing that it's one of those things like

Starting point is 02:21:39 If you think about every time he had to do it It was easy for him when then bees out and out and everybody's about to talk shit, 40. When this person was down, okay, I give you 40. And this one, you talking shit, I got something for you. Right, I just think he's like, I wanna get 10 assists, I need to try to get everybody involved. But guess what, he's never done it. Guess what, he's never done that switch

Starting point is 02:22:01 when we needed it most. No, but that's the problem. When you do need it the most, this is the person. He's playing how... Like, if you think... Like, listen to when he was scoring and say, oh, we need James

Starting point is 02:22:13 not to average this. We need him to average 22, 75. Yeah, that's not what I'm talking about. And he does exactly that. And then if you're like, that's not what I'm talking about. He kind of changes narrative. I'm talking about the playoff, when you were in the playoffs,

Starting point is 02:22:27 after being James Harden, and we need you to be James Harden for game six and game five. And consistently in the playoff, James Harden doesn't show up. That was going to be my point I was going to make, right? It is fortunate for him, right? And we all know, we never doubt his talent, whether he's a good shooter, a hell of a basketball player, all these him, right? And we all know, we never doubt his talent, whether he's a good shooter, a hell of a basketball player, all these things, right?

Starting point is 02:22:51 That ball could easily not go in. Right? Malik Beasley could have made that same fucking statement, and he could have came out there motherfucking and went four for 25. So it's just, the aggression could have been there. He could have made them statements, the aggression could have been there. Same could have made them statements. Aggression could have been there and just some nights.

Starting point is 02:23:10 I went three for 23 in the finals. Some days that ball just don't go in. I made my first two shots of the game. I'm from home. No, it don't go that way

Starting point is 02:23:19 all the time, right? So he's just forcing that the ball in them situations and in the playoffs and in the playoffs the ball didn't go in. in them situations and in the playoffs and in the playoffs the ball

Starting point is 02:23:36 Knowing that it's easy knowing that it's good. We can't we can't over Overdo it knowing that we expect this for you here. Give it to us now. It's like yeah yeah, James, but we know you can do that. James could be James, but when you're going up against a KD that could be KD and Steph could be Steph, that shit don't equal out. You talking about

Starting point is 02:23:52 in the playoffs? Yeah. Played the Spurs. He could be James. You got Tim Duncan and everybody else doing their thing too, so. He played against

Starting point is 02:24:01 some tough teams. He did. He played against some tough teams. But did he show up in those games is what I'm saying. The James that we just seen is an easy James that can show up any night. He won't. We're not talking about the Houston game.

Starting point is 02:24:12 We know what the Houston games did. He had 53 at night. That's what I'm talking about. What you talking about? In the playoffs? Yes. In the playoffs. Game six, game seven, three straight years in a row?

Starting point is 02:24:22 Philly he's taking eight shots in the in the playoffs the problem with this and this is why i said but season one i never tell a player to don't be aggressive right when when people are talking about westbrook yo you do what you do right like if you if you you, if you, if your talent is the, can get me a triple-double, get me a triple-double. I don't want to tell, you know how competitive I can be. I don't want to tell you to say, alright, average 22, 6, and 5. Because what's going to happen is that motherfucker's going to

Starting point is 02:24:57 average 22, 6, and 5, and we're going to be losing like shit, because what's winning is the extra 8 points and 4 rebounds and 5 rebounds and assists he brings to us. So sometimes what happens is coaches try to dial somebody down, and they do dial down, and it's not how it's supposed to be. Like, yo, can you now score 40? You got to let the motherfucker do him.

Starting point is 02:25:21 Like, nobody told Kobe to dial down for Paul Gasol. He just did it. What does that say about the player, though? If you're dialing down for somebody that's not going to dial it up, I should always pick up my production unless I know the other dude is going to pick up his slack. But they're trying to present it to you as the betterment of the team. I get it. But you're just telling me to cap.

Starting point is 02:25:42 They're trying to dress this bullshit up. You can never cap somebody's performance, though, because I'm in control of how much more I can give you. You can say, show up and give me minimum. Minimum is 22 and 9 for James Harden. Minimum. Hey, that's all we're looking for, James. James is going to say, bet.

Starting point is 02:25:57 That's easy. But if James Harden decides to come in and just give me 22 and 9, knowing he can give me 30 and 15, that's on James. Or is that on you for telling him to do that? If you told him this is what I expect from you. I'm giving him a limitation. But they didn't do that. But as a player, there is no limitations for me.

Starting point is 02:26:17 But if you tell me this is what you expect for us to win. Yeah, just to win. You take it like you got a pass or two and B. If you're telling me this is what I expect from you, I just have to minimize. Minimal, got to pass it to him. And you're telling me this is what I expect from you. I got to get there. I just have to minimize. Minimal, I have to give you that. Minimal.

Starting point is 02:26:29 That means my worst game has to be 22 and 9. Those are my worst games averages. You know they don't do that. That's what, think about I'm shooting for the stars at this point. Okay. He's setting a bar saying, hey, James, look, I'm actually not even going to put you at 28 and 12 as a bar. I'm going to bring it down a whole lot lower than you're used to

Starting point is 02:26:48 just because I know you can get it. So when you get it, man, give me a little bit more every now and again. You've never heard that before. That's why they did it the way they did it. Because he's supposed to always go exhale. You always supposed to. There is no just come do this. Especially if I'm giving you all the shots to do it.

Starting point is 02:27:05 But that is exactly how they're coming to you. So why would you accept it like that? Why would I just accept my limitations? Because you're a team player. You're accepting your limitations. But doing it the other way, I haven't won doing it the other way neither. So therefore, if this presented to me, this is the betterment of the team to try to help you get over the top.

Starting point is 02:27:29 This is how they dressed it up, though. The first time I did it was in OKC. I understand. And I did what? Came off the bench and you told me betterment, betterment, betterment. That didn't work. He landed in a better situation. He landed in a better situation.

Starting point is 02:27:40 Hold on the quote. He landed in a better situation. And how did that pan out for him? I dig it. And then we go to Philly, and here we are, full circle, back to the OKC situation where I have to limit my production for a team's success. That didn't work either. So here we are in the Clippers, where I'm like, that 50 from James?

Starting point is 02:28:00 That's not going to happen. We need that 50 to come in the postseason. We need that 50 to come in the post We need that 50 to come in a place that's what they're telling them I mean if they're not gonna tell you that's what the game Dictates yeah, that's what they should that's what I'm thinking. They should be telling them Hey, James, save us your big explosive performances for the playoffs I'm gonna need you to say cuz you don't know I need you to average to me. You just wrote it 33 99 That's why I need you to have. He just showed you. If we're going to win, you need the average.

Starting point is 02:28:26 33-9-9 for us to win. Anything under this, we don't have a chance. Can he do that right now? Hell yeah. 33-9-9 right now? Every night? Do you know anybody else can do that? I love Jay.

Starting point is 02:28:36 Every night? 33-9-9 plays hard right now? At 35. With the moves that you just seen him out there? He's a bait. 33-9-9. He's a baiter, right? Because he shoots so well, right? Because he shoots so well, what are you going to him out there? I don't think so. He's a bait. 33-90. He's a baiter, right? Because he shoots so well, right?

Starting point is 02:28:46 Because he shoots so well, what are you going to do on him? You're going to be challenging all of his shots. You're going to be, because you don't want him to get the ball off, so he's going to bait you,

Starting point is 02:28:54 do all that whole... To get to 33. To 33, that's a lot of meat. He's 35-90 right now. So he's a baiter. Is he a novice baiter or is he a master of that? He could get hot some games,

Starting point is 02:29:04 that old body could get hot. He's 35. He's a a baiter. Is he a novice baiter or is he a master of that? He could get hot some games, that old body could get hot. He's 35. He's a master baiter. Damn it. Yo, that was crazy. I'm out of here, bro. Yeah, bro, that was it. Go to OnlyFans. You got it.

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Starting point is 02:29:52 underdog user DJ made man so question for the couch of all the teams y'all play for which ones are you fans of because you played there and which ones you hope they don't do ish ever. This is how he wrote it. Of all the teams y'all played for, which ones are you fans of because you played there, and which ones you hope they don't do-ish ever? Ish is what he put, I-S-H. Which ones you like, which ones you hope don't never win. I'll go... Just what team I like better?

Starting point is 02:30:24 Oh, shit. I got to pick a bad one? Damn. This is your opinion, girl. Oh, yeah, girl. I know what you can, like, go with. I'm going to go with Wizards. Bad team?

Starting point is 02:30:36 No, good team. I know that. They made me rich. Fuck. I ain't got shit to... Fuck, I ain't got shit to say bad about the Wizards. God bless the Washington Wizards. Fuck them Wizards.

Starting point is 02:30:51 Oh, so Wizards is bad for you? Yeah. And you. He said team. So fuck the Wizards and fuck you. Team, but make my teammate my friend. No, he didn't say nothing about the team. No, no, no.

Starting point is 02:31:01 It's like the goddamn answer. You come with the Wizards. Who do you like first? Who do you hate? I hate you nothing about the team. It's the goddamn answer. You come with the Wizards. Who do you like first? Who do you hate? I hate you. I said team. I hate you, the Wizards, and that's it. And you again.

Starting point is 02:31:12 Everybody else, huh? I was going to say you again. Yeah, you again at this age. Do you like Philly too? I hate you today. You like Philly? I hate you today. You do?

Starting point is 02:31:22 I hate you. You've been talking today. I don't like how you've been acting today. Been talking? Yes. How about Philly? You like Philly? I hate you today. You do? I hate you. You've been talking. I don't like how you've been acting today. Been talking? Yes. How about Philly? You like Philly?

Starting point is 02:31:29 Nick, how many teams you play for? Fort? All I remember is Wizards, A.S., PTSD. You were scarred. Taking medicine for that. You were taking medicine? How about Denver? You went to Denver?

Starting point is 02:31:37 You like Denver? Just you and them and Wizards. Okay. So he liked me and hated the Wizards, got it? Why you play for the Wizards? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. How about Denver? You went to Denver? You like Denver? Just you and them.

Starting point is 02:31:46 Okay. So he liked me and hated the Wizards. Why do you play for six teams in this career? Thank you for answering my question, Josiah. I didn't want to answer. I wanted us to go. I want to get out of here. Mr. B. I don't have a team I hate, but the Bucs for sure.

Starting point is 02:32:00 Love the Bucs. I like all the teams I play for. You do? Yeah. Cemetery Larry. Those are New York Bucs. I like all the teams I play for. You do? Yeah. Cemetery, Larry. That's a New York Bucs. Love your franchises. Orlando.

Starting point is 02:32:10 Or Dome. Nah. He said, I don't got a life. What's his name? What's his name? I don't think I have ever had a franchise. Daniel? I don't think I was ever part of some shit fully. We was halfway in, halfway out.

Starting point is 02:32:24 The whole relationship. We don't know if we're going to take you with us. You're going to have to ride in the back. You got one, man. That man right there. Not in the back seat. The trunk, nigga. You're in the trunk.

Starting point is 02:32:37 So, yeah, I never. I never had a seat. I'm trying to get on a plane. I'm on the waiting list, and I'm the last one. Shit, I'm with the luggage, dude. I'm under the plane. Stand by on the plane. I never had a snitch.

Starting point is 02:32:51 I'm going to stand by, and I'm like, 25. Stand by like a motherfucker. You're on the clear list, you made it. Holy shit, man. Kenyon, how about yourself? It's just that I don't hate them, but the Nets ain't going to never win shit. The Wizards never going to win.

Starting point is 02:33:07 They made a horrible decision, man. They did. You know what I'm saying? The Nets is gone, though. You mean the New Jersey. The Nets. The name, Nets. Oh, Nets.

Starting point is 02:33:17 They went to Brooklyn, so it's a whole different thing. New Jersey could never win again. Did you answer the question? I've been setting you up. You know, you went to Brooklyn, so it's a whole different... Yeah, but I'm saying New Jersey could never win again. Yeah, I don't... You answered the question, I bet so. After setting you up, I just... Victory laughing. No, I don't dislike no team, man. The Nets drafted me.

Starting point is 02:33:35 Nuggets paid me. Uh... Knicks gave me opportunity when I was sitting at home on the couch. So Bucks did the same. So nah, you gotta appreciate this shit, dog. Like for real, like nah, if you had a bad experience, it fucking happens, don't get me wrong. It definitely fucking happens to people.

Starting point is 02:34:00 Like the experience within certain organizations happens, but you know like for me it was I'm saying being drafted great in the max contract great so it's Good you answer the question. Yeah, he did it was first There's a lot of people on this couch. No, I didn't I think it's a horrible one because I got it my check came from everybody check clear Like the first in the fifth Orlando shit 15, right? Maybe she protected my checkers once I was out of the league there was nothing they can do to get it back So boom then Memphis is like hey, we got some extra money over here. You want some yeah, fuck it. I'm bored. Let's go shit Got a couple dollars over here

Starting point is 02:34:43 Yeah, that's a very important shit. I mean, Charlotte, I don't want Charlotte to win. Because trust me, if somebody would have called my phone after you're 15, I'm definitely picking up on it. All right? For sure. You ain't turning down nothing but your collar. That was the team that hurt my knee. Oh, man.

Starting point is 02:34:58 I mean, if we got in. If there's a team that need to be taken out of the NBA, I got my phone. And taken out of the NBA, I got my vote. And taken out of the NBA? Jordan ain't there no more, so fuck it. Them motherfuckers don't exist. You know what I mean? Ain't no black owners. Fuck it. Aye. Before we go to that whole show, they was once called the Bobcats.

Starting point is 02:35:18 And it was orange. It was orange and they was called the Bobcats. I'm sorry, they was some hard plants. It was the Bob and they was all the bobcats. No, I'm sorry. They was some hard plants. It was the bobcats. I'm sorry, Charlotte. Not y'all. Y'all already took the motherfuckers that I don't like out. There was a bobcat.

Starting point is 02:35:31 It was a bobcat. Y'all done traded them, got them to fuck on. That was a nasty. That was a nasty. That's a nasty. Sorry, Hornets. My bad. That bobcat was nasty.

Starting point is 02:35:40 The fuck is my way around? That color. Before we go. Oh, the gym. Everything. Practice gym. Oh, look. WNBA way around. That color. Before we go, the gym, everything. Practice gym. All of it. WNBA.

Starting point is 02:35:48 The locker room. The players' master team. The outfit. The AC stink. The AC smell. They best smell. They best smell. They smell like a damn bottle.

Starting point is 02:35:56 They smell like a damn bottle. Daryl Wallace. They smell like a damn bottle. Daryl Wallace. They smell like hot dog water. Oh my God. You know what I'm saying, yo? Crash out, Daryl Wallace.

Starting point is 02:36:04 Crash. Hot dog water. Crash out, Crash. Crash crash crash Before we go crash. Yeah, well, oh job man Let me tell you how it crash he goes too hard. I wasn't even in the play I'm minding my business not playing no defense. You do what you do. No do what I'm doing on the weak side. Uh Jerry Wallace over there He gets the ball I thought he shot it so I'm like oh shit we know this is off For the first time I decided to box out the big so I'm sitting here boxing the big out right Not looking for nothing. I guess he pump faked So he pump faked So he pump faked Didn't I don't know what he did here but somehow

Starting point is 02:36:53 He comes on the other side fall on me while boxing out. Oh So, I don't know what happened I refuse to watch it, But I know I wasn't near him, nor on that side of the rim. I'm on this side of the rim boxing this motherfucker. This is my business. He's going to end up all over here. How you hit me? He pump faked and tried to throw a foul. I know he was at the three-point line in the corner.

Starting point is 02:37:20 You know when you're wide open and everybody's like, oh, yeah, he put up. You're just like, let's go get that rebound. Pumfakin drove and then I guess went for the layup and ran into my leg. Goddamn. He tripped over somebody. He used to trip over everybody. Goddamn, bro. He didn't just fall for no reason.

Starting point is 02:37:36 Just come in. He was a monster, though. I'm glad they got rid of the Bobcats. He was a monster. He was the reason I started the reason me getting kicked out of the game for clapping. He tried to run over JR and knee JR in the forehead. JR had a big-ass hematoma on his shoe when he get up.

Starting point is 02:37:54 He ran over to the knee? No, he tried to jump over it. Truck stick. He tried to jump over it. Boom! Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he did. He was with Fred Jones in them, I think.

Starting point is 02:38:05 See, he was one of those guys that it wasn't the height of his jump because that motherfucker fly. It was just the creativity. That was the reason LeBron never got into the dunk contest. Some motherfuckers just jump straight up, right? They don't got the actual creativity of jumping. Some niggas just scared to get into it. Some niggas just scared to get into the gun. Don't cut this. That's it You gonna make no use about that

Starting point is 02:38:33 So breaking news we have crossed nine hundred forty seven thousand subscribers on the guild arena YouTube 947,000 so we're doing our Gillian giveaway. As a reminder, for every 1,000 subscribers we gain between 900,000 and a million, we'll give underdog user $1,000 in bonus cash. So since we're at 947, we're giving away $3,000 in bonus cash on this show to three lucky winners right now. So without further delay, here are the winners for today. Aunt Lewis Ellison, you got $1,000 coming from underdog.

Starting point is 02:39:07 Boy, them answers winning right now, boy. Hey, them answers winning right now. You know, this baby mama got kicked out of L.A. Get your ass back to Georgia. Take this $2,200. JT-23 to Don. JT-23 to Don. You have $1,000 coming from underdog.

Starting point is 02:39:24 Take the $2,200. She thought she was getting $200. $22, get your ass back in the drawer, the girl. Last but not least, Jgon05. Jgon05, you have $1,000 covered for underdog. Very enjoyable show today, very enjoyable week here. Something happened. Shai, you got something you would like to say before we leave? Just shout-out to the ticket winners

Starting point is 02:39:42 for the NBA ticket giveaway we did. We did. Appreciate y'all hustling with me. Appreciate you. I saw sweet tickets, Sean. I saw sweet tickets. It's some nice shit, you know what I'm saying? I actually invest into the fan base of Larry.

Starting point is 02:39:56 The cemetery is open for business. All right. No D-V-A, Smith. Shout out to everybody on the couch. Shout out to everybody watching at the crib. This has been another episode of Gills Arena presented by Underdog. We will see y'all next week.

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